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Speaker 3: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 4: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 4: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 4: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 4: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 5: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 3: It's the John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 4: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: Let's hear that both the next brek Fiers. I believe

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Speaker 6: there are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 7: Oh best part of Ken Flow's week? Probably not maybe

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Speaker 7: now that he has a newborn. It's Monday, June twenty one,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, Episode three h five of the Annik

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Speaker 7: and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 8: All Right, I got.

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Speaker 7: Three kids, one of whom, the youngest of whom will

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Speaker 7: be three years of age in two days.

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Speaker 8: I'm feeling for my guy, can Flow.

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Speaker 7: I mean, how is how is Archie Florian adjusting to

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Speaker 7: life on this planet?

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Speaker 9: He's doing okay. You know, my wife hasn't had a

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Speaker 9: whole lot to sleep. I get a little bit more

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Speaker 9: sleep these days. But I have an immense respect for

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Speaker 9: those that have more than two, like yourself, like my

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Speaker 9: brother Keith, and et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But it's tough just managing.

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Speaker 9: All because you know, giving the appropriate attention and dealing

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Speaker 9: with both and you know, one feeling potentially left out

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Speaker 9: or trying to manage them both when they're both going.

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Speaker 9: It's a it's a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's an interesting conversation, right, because I never could have

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Speaker 7: seen the upside of not having children until I actually

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Speaker 7: had my own children. And certainly it is life's greatest joy.

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Speaker 7: And the anticipation to come home and see my kids

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Speaker 7: after I've been away from them for forty eight hours

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Speaker 7: with respect to my wife, the anticipation to see my

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Speaker 7: children is absolutely off the charts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But man, when people tell me they're having a baby

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Speaker 7: or they have a newborn, it's like my instinct is

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Speaker 7: more condolence than congratulations at this point in my life.

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Speaker 8: And I did not intend to open the show this way, but.

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Speaker 9: Uh yeah, early on process and you know, true was

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Speaker 9: so easy.

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Speaker 2: Archer's been more of a you know.

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Speaker 10: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's been tough. Man.

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Speaker 9: It's been tough, the whole sleep thing. But we'll get

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Speaker 9: through it, man, we'll get through it, all right.

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Speaker 7: So a lot to get to today, and it's great

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Speaker 7: to have you with us for the three hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifth edition. Forest Griffin is scheduled to join us. Hey,

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Speaker 7: he's going to be by phone and knocked computer. He

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Speaker 7: was all locked in a few weeks ago on Monday,

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Speaker 7: May seventeenth, Archer's birthday, So we postponed your guy, Forest

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Speaker 8: Ray Longo is going to join us here shortly.

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Speaker 7: I did have race schedule off the top of the

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Speaker 7: show today to try to make amends with that fucking

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Speaker 9: You didn't have any visitors, any Italian visitors knock on

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Speaker 2: Right now, don't answer the door, dude. You see an

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Speaker 7: I hate to say it because I do not like

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Speaker 7: living in a gated community, but most of Florida is

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Speaker 8: Ray Longs not on the list. He's not on the

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to tell you, all right, So

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Speaker 7: seedle Gan and Alexander Volkov. I absolutely love this main event,

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Speaker 7: and once again I'm thankful that our executive producer, Cody

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Speaker 7: Merrow does not make me make predictions on this program.

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Speaker 7: Anderson Silva with an outstanding result in boxing over the weekend,

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Speaker 7: so a lot to.

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Speaker 7: I would love to lead the show with Ka Ka

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Speaker 7: Da Vina Janji Doba because you could argue she was

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Speaker 8: But Ken Flow Chan Sung John the Korean Zombie.

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Speaker 7: I had not seen this man fight live since the

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Speaker 7: Dennis Bermudez fight in February of twenty seventeen, and what

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Speaker 7: for us as commentators leading into the fight was don't

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Speaker 7: sleep on this man's wrestling grappling because he is very

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Speaker 7: much elite down there. What'd you make of the Korean

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Speaker 7: Zombie over five rounds? Over over a very game dany gay?

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Speaker 9: You know, I can break down fights all day long.

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Speaker 9: I feel like that's you know, certainly one of my strengths.

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Speaker 9: Predicting fights is not okay, and I think a lot

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Speaker 9: of that comes down to me going, well, they've been

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Speaker 9: fighting this way, they're probably going to switch things up

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Speaker 9: and vice versa. I'll say they've been fighting like this

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Speaker 2: Like this long you know then in the next fight.

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Speaker 9: And managing that I think is the most difficult thing

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Speaker 9: classic Korean zombie style slugfest. And if that was the case,

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Speaker 9: Danny Gay was I thought was going to get the

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Speaker 2: I just think he's a more powerful puncher. Well, this Korean.

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Speaker 9: Zombie was I thought, very different than previous Korean zombies.

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Speaker 2: I thought he fought intelligent.

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Speaker 9: I thought he was using his jab right the ultimate

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Speaker 9: whatever they want. He did not trade, He was not foolish,

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Speaker 9: he wasn't overly aggressive. I thought this was a measured,

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 7: And this is the way you beat Dany Gay, whoat

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Speaker 7: will be heard from in the future. But to these

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Speaker 7: coaches eddie Cha and Santino de Franco and the training

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Speaker 7: partners right the elite level wrestlers, Olympic medalist Henry Shudo

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Speaker 7: and Mark Madison, eddie Cha has basically demanded that heretofore

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Speaker 7: every training camp for Chan Sung Jong be here in

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Speaker 7: the States in Arizona, and they weren't able to do

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Speaker 7: And I'm not sure anybody was beaten t City on

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Speaker 7: that faithful night on Fight Island, right, But the point remains,

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Speaker 7: he's got a lot of good wrestling.

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Speaker 8: He's getting a lot of good nuanced training.

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Speaker 7: And even when he did have that training camp in Korea,

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Speaker 7: eddie Cha had to do a fourteen day quarantine, so

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Speaker 7: some of it was remote. Everything's a line for the

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Speaker 7: Korean zombie and we will have more on that with

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Speaker 7: Ray Longo, who now joins us. Raymond, Oh, it's great

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Speaker 7: to see you. Oh hey, there you are, good morning.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, And I don't think I was coming into

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Speaker 7: Well, it's great to see you. We don't have the

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Speaker 7: whole Ray Long Go minute drop and all that stuff.

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Speaker 7: I did buy a couple T shirts today, by the way,

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Speaker 7: oh Ray Long Minute shirts, You're welcome.

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Speaker 8: We're just trying to line your pocket.

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Speaker 7: So we wanted to have you off off the top

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Speaker 7: of the show this week because once again the minute

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Speaker 7: this up to be funny, right, but uh, I mean,

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Speaker 7: you just have a lot of support on this podcast.

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Speaker 7: Like if I even joke with you about an answer

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Speaker 7: being too long, I have half the listenership after me.

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Speaker 7: So here he is, guys, Ray Long go off the

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Speaker 5: Everybody's happy, Kenny one of my sense with him.

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Speaker 2: He's angry, he's upset.

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Speaker 9: He's actually an army, the Ray Longo army fired back

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Speaker 9: at John, and now John is behaving himself.

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Speaker 5: All right, you missed the behaving John. Don't make us

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Speaker 7: Now you're a legend. I am not okay, let's you're

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Speaker 7: a legend. But I think some people are like, hey,

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Speaker 7: this is free form. It's a podcast like let Ray

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Speaker 7: go as long as he goddamn well pleases. So that

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Speaker 7: So are we leading the show with Steve Lee or

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Speaker 7: the Korean zombie? I don't know which way we should go.

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Speaker 7: Cody Merrow, our producer, tells me that Steve Lee kind

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Speaker 7: of got fucking hosed over the weekend.

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Speaker 10: So I'll tell you what, man, I thought he won

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Speaker 5: I had no questions about it, but uh, it was

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Speaker 5: one of those nights. Man, we weren't going to get

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Speaker 5: want a couple but yeah, crazy zee, crazy night. But

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Speaker 5: the way these guys fought was unbelievable. So that's really

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Speaker 5: all that matters. They're amateurs. They're getting all this stuff

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Speaker 10: That that was good.

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Speaker 8: But Lee's still an amateur, still an amateur class thirty five.

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Speaker 7: Thirty five same weight classes. Me, if we need to

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Speaker 7: get this guy w Man twenty three. Just fucking he

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Speaker 7: can light me up all he wants.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's really a great idea. I really like

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Speaker 10: it because.

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Speaker 2: John's willing to sacrifice for that.

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Speaker 5: That's John, John, You give me a word. We just

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Speaker 5: come up with a different name for you. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 5: you mustache or if we throw you in there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So when we brought you on, we were talking about

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Speaker 7: You know, you could see just let Domina Cruz screw

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Speaker 5: He you know, used a jab, mixed up the takedowns.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's right where he wants to be.

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Speaker 7: In terms of Danny Gay and his ceiling, I still

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Speaker 9: You know, he's one of those guys you can depend on.

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Speaker 7: And he just teased his own comeback in that answer

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you see, like his name's not even on

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Speaker 8: So, but he doesn't fight like that.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't fight like he needs to brawl anymore if

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the amazing part because a lot of

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Speaker 5: Who is the guy he had that first brawl with

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Speaker 8: Oh you know what.

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Speaker 10: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 8: Oh, Leonard Garcia.

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Speaker 10: Leonard Garcia, right, didn't they fight?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, So I mentioned the name Yayi Rodriguez,

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Speaker 7: I guess there's no obvious answer. I mean, I certainly

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Speaker 8: You just never know. But what do you think they're

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 9: I mean, there's a lot of different possibilities. I love,

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Speaker 2: I love a lot of those options. You know, he

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. Giga gigas trying to get the

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Speaker 7: The ear is there, right, Yes, gigas number ten in

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Speaker 7: I tougher down to forty six.

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Speaker 9: Right, I think if yayar is, I don't think Yaya

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Speaker 9: Giga kind of makes sense. That'd be an awesome fight.

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Speaker 8: Right, and that could potentially happen.

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Speaker 7: But I would like to see Chan Sung Jung as

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Speaker 10: Get a comin that he keeps confusing me. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ted Sung Jung, Carl you a Ray?

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Speaker 8: How about this?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 7: Uh, Marlon cheeto Vera is an animal and abandonway contender

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Speaker 7: that I do think one day we'll fight for a title.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, we're going into the archives here, Ray, I

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Speaker 7: Cheito Vera to Kenny Florian, January ninth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Kenny.

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Speaker 7: I was looking at old footage of you, and the

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Speaker 7: here's the reply from ken Flow. This is about eighteen

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Speaker 8: My dude, hope you're well.

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Speaker 7: The biggest thing is swinging your elbow and then letting

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Speaker 7: up cutting the skin much easier. What a fucking savage,

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Speaker 7: Ken welcome. Very similar to how one throws a punch.

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Speaker 7: The structure of the arm slash elbow is what is

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Speaker 7: And then Cheeto responded, so awesome to read this, my man,

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Speaker 7: and I had that same sentiment when this was shared

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Speaker 7: a little bit. How about fucking Cheedo vera ray? What'd

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Speaker 10: Me? I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I think Cheeto's the h He just keeps getting better

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got confidence, definitely not going away easy,

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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, he has arguably the best

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Speaker 2: Hunger is the thing that really stands out for me.

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Speaker 9: He's still got that nasty nastiness in him, which every fighter,

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Speaker 9: Some of the some of the most beautiful clinch, knee

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Speaker 9: It was really pretty to watch, and it was brutal,

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Speaker 9: it was violent, uh and it swung the fight his way.

446
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Speaker 6: Ray.

447
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Speaker 7: What percentage of UFC athletes know how to loosely throw

448
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Speaker 7: an elbow, so to speak?

449
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Speaker 8: I'm I truly don't know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 10: I don't know. I mean, now, Al had a couple

451
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Speaker 10: of knockouts with elbows. He not only cut you. He

452
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Speaker 10: knocked he knocked out Ross Pierce.

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Speaker 5: And I think he knocked out the kid on the

454
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Speaker 5: show that you you commentated. Uh, you know, if that's

455
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Speaker 5: something in your arsenal, you're gonna you're gonna probably you know,

456
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Speaker 5: do exactly that reach out to Kenny and well guys

457
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Speaker 5: that throw him and then you just experiment with him.

458
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Speaker 10: But uh, I don't know. Percentage wise, I don't know.

459
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Speaker 10: Kenny give me helped me out?

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Speaker 7: No, I mean, hey, Kenny, I know a lot of

461
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Speaker 7: people though, right, I mean you're.

462
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Speaker 10: Not seeing You're not seeing it a lot.

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Speaker 5: If that's you know, so if you're based it on that,

464
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Speaker 5: then there's not a lot Kenny.

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Speaker 7: Is the technique the same if you're throwing it to

466
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Speaker 7: try to knock somebody out versus slicing them open?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you definitely want to loosen up a

468
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Speaker 9: little bit, you know, no matter what I think. You know,

469
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Speaker 9: Bruce Lee used to talk about that. You know, you

470
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Speaker 9: you strike like a whip. You know, all of his strokes,

471
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Speaker 9: all of your strikes open like open open fists.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: When when you're talking about cutting, I think that it's

474
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Speaker 9: especially important with the elbow. If you're looking for knockout shot,

475
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Speaker 9: there's gonna be way more follow through with your body,

476
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Speaker 9: similar to like a cross or whatever, with the hip

477
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Speaker 9: getting involved a little bit more. But yeah, I feel

478
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Speaker 9: like it's a weapon that because maybe I mean, obviously

479
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Speaker 9: you can't really throw it and sparring very much, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know, putting some.

481
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Speaker 9: Elbow pads on and I'm sure Raid did this back

482
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Speaker 9: in the day with Jekundou and Muytai. Putting elbow pads

483
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Speaker 9: and having control and working at sparring is going to

484
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Speaker 9: get your body in mind to throw it when you

485
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Speaker 9: actually have a fight. And I think the big hurdle

486
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Speaker 9: or obstacle is guys aren't able to really throw it

487
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Speaker 9: in sparring, especially full out, so then when the fight

488
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Speaker 9: comes around, they're not throwing it at all. So you've

489
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Speaker 9: got to train your body and mind to throw those guys.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I think it's a weapon that's that's

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Speaker 9: very often left on the table when it comes to

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Speaker 9: a real fight.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me just say one more thing, John, is

495
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Speaker 5: that some guys, I mean, there is a difference in

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Speaker 5: people's elbows. To some guys elbow, John, it's just like

497
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Speaker 5: a bone waiting to cut like there is. You know,

498
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Speaker 5: some of the guys like that have a little meat

499
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Speaker 5: on their arms, you get more of a different type

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Speaker 5: of elbow, like a tyson.

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Speaker 10: He's just gonna almost on me.

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Speaker 5: But some of those guys that have those exposed elbows,

503
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Speaker 5: and there's a difference, man, because I've seen it really

504
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Speaker 5: really crazy.

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Speaker 10: And you gotta loosen up your latch your back.

506
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Speaker 5: If you've you got like a big be you're not

507
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Speaker 5: getting to talk like Kenny's talking about on his elbows,

508
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Speaker 5: so that the body mechanics, the way your body structure is.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a huge thing to the elbows and

511
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Speaker 5: like Kenny said, and just wanting to throw them. Like

512
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Speaker 5: I just had a guy do a spinel spin back

513
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Speaker 5: elbow Sunday or Saturday during sporing, and uh, you know

514
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Speaker 5: he controlled.

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Speaker 10: It, so you can do it. You just have to

516
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Speaker 10: take something off. You need responsible people.

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Speaker 5: But what a beautiful technique he threw and you know

518
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Speaker 5: would have landed, but he just stopped it perfectly. So uh,

519
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Speaker 5: you know, because he'd and have elbow pads on it,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he would have thrown it.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, that's a good point about bone structure and

522
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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people Kenny are still audio only,

523
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Speaker 7: but for the viewers, would you mind just holding up

524
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Speaker 7: your elbow and one that place.

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Speaker 9: Ray was talking about guys with muscle a little bit

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Speaker 9: more meta, though I was not one of those guys

527
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Speaker 9: with a whole lot of on my body.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, both folks right there.

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Speaker 7: That el people man tell you, yeah, Ken Flow's elbow

530
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Speaker 7: is something else, all right? So as we spin this

531
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Speaker 7: thing forward for Cheeto Vera, maybe Morob Dwalash Willie and

532
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Speaker 7: al Jamaine Sterling will be preparing for those elbows and

533
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Speaker 7: the not too distant future. But here's the thing, okay,

534
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Speaker 7: Domina Cruz is one of my best friends in the world,

535
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Speaker 7: my broadcast partner, so he and I have talked about

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Speaker 7: this Cheeto Vera fight in the past, and by the way,

537
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Speaker 7: I consider Cheeto a dear friend as well. Like wedding tomorrow,

538
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Speaker 7: Cheeto's probably getting a fucking invite, not a groomsman like

539
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Speaker 7: Cruse would potentially be. But I don't know if Cruz

540
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Speaker 7: a borderline groomsman right now, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't know. I'd have to think about that.

542
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Speaker 7: But he and I talked about the merits of this

543
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Speaker 7: cheat Kenny, not all that long ago when it actually

544
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Speaker 7: made more sense when Cheeto I think was either on

545
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Speaker 7: a winning streak or before the Jo's Aaldo fight. And

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Speaker 7: it's not as though the fight doesn't make any sense

547
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Speaker 7: for Dominic Cruz. But I just want to set this

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Speaker 7: up a little bit. So Marlin cheto Vera is number

549
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Speaker 7: fifteen in the world magic Marlon Marie is number six,

550
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Speaker 7: and he is fighting tenth ranked Morob Dwallish Willie Right,

551
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Speaker 7: so you can't always fight up the rankings as ninth

552
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Speaker 7: ranks Dominic Cruz is trying.

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Speaker 8: To do so.

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Speaker 7: Cruz, I think would love to fight a guy like

555
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Speaker 7: Rob font who's in the top three. But Rob Vont

556
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Speaker 7: doesn't want to fight Dominic Cruz because he just won

557
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Speaker 7: a title eliminators essentially against Cody Garbrandton Maine event. He's

558
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Speaker 7: not going to fight Cruz, which is obviously a tricky

559
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Speaker 7: side go down to. So I understand why guys certainly

560
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Speaker 7: don't want to fight down in certain instances.

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Speaker 8: I think the Cruise Cheeto fight makes sense.

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Speaker 7: But Dominic at this point of his career, Kenny is

563
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Speaker 7: looking up, and you know, the fifteen ranking doesn't necessarily

564
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Speaker 7: get him out of bed, even though I think for

565
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Speaker 7: a lot of people that fight makes a lot of

566
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Speaker 7: sense your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: You know that there's fighting and then there's the business

569
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Speaker 9: of fighting, and it always gets trickier. It's kind of

570
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Speaker 9: like more money, more problems, more rankings, more problems as well.

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Speaker 9: So the higher ranked, the higher ranked you go, the

572
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Speaker 9: trickier it is because also you know, you have to

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Speaker 9: be more precise and I think more careful.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what people also.

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Speaker 9: Need to understand, right, it's it's not just the fighter

576
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Speaker 9: making the decisions.

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Speaker 2: You have a coach, you.

578
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Speaker 9: Got a manager, you got you know, the manager's assisted,

579
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Speaker 9: you got the UFC, you got all these other people

580
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Speaker 9: that are involved in this process.

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Speaker 2: And it can get tricky at times.

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Speaker 9: Now you know, some guys they don't care that they're

583
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Speaker 9: gonna fight whoever, you know, and you can get mixed

584
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Speaker 9: results because of that. I think when you get a guy,

585
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Speaker 9: a legend, a true legend, like a dominant crew Cruise,

586
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Speaker 9: I give him a whole lot more leeway because he's

587
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Speaker 9: been around the sport.

588
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Speaker 2: For a long time.

589
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Speaker 9: He has fought all those other guys when he was

590
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Speaker 9: coming up in the game. He knows what that's like

591
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Speaker 9: he's already done that. I think if you're gonna give leeway,

592
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Speaker 9: I think you give a guy like a Domino Cruz

593
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Speaker 9: who's been a former champion both in the WEC and

594
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Speaker 9: in the UFC, you give him more room. You give him,

595
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Speaker 9: you give him more ability to be able to pick

596
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Speaker 9: those fights. I mean that's the way I see it.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, how about Ray breaking that Marie morob News on

598
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Speaker 7: the Anakin floor got a little bump from that. Ray.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: I thought I was in trouble.

601
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Speaker 2: Now you're in.

602
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Speaker 8: Trouble for your three minute answer, not for.

603
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Speaker 10: I was panicking.

604
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Speaker 7: So I'm just curious, Kenny, in terms of coaches managers

605
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Speaker 7: getting involved with fight decisions, you don't have to answer this,

606
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Speaker 7: but you kind of do. Was there ever a fight

607
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Speaker 7: that you really wanted to take, maybe early in your

608
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Speaker 7: career otherwise that a coach or manager prevented you from taking?

609
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Speaker 7: Because I I don't think a coacher manager in your

610
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 7: situation would have had enough. I mean, even Keith right like,

611
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Speaker 7: I would think you and Keith would have been pretty aligned.

612
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Speaker 7: But you seem too strong willed that if you thought

613
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Speaker 7: cerebrally that a matchup made sense at that point in time,

614
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Speaker 7: nobody manager, coach, Keith, or anyone was going to be

615
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Speaker 7: able to talk to you out.

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Speaker 2: Strong willed is a euphemism for me being dumb. No,

617
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Speaker 2: let's see I think that.

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Speaker 9: Well, listen for the Sean Shirk fight when it was

619
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Speaker 9: first when it was first proposed, I think myself and

620
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Speaker 9: my coaches were like, Kenny, you need more time.

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Speaker 2: This dude's got forty fights.

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Speaker 9: You're just coming off a fight, and I think the

623
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Speaker 9: UFC wanted to do like a month turnaround. And you know,

624
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Speaker 9: my back wasn't that really rarely was. But they said, hey,

625
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Speaker 9: let's get more time. Let's ask the UFC if they

626
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Speaker 9: could push that event back or put you on another show,

627
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Speaker 9: and that's what we ended up doing. I'm trying to

628
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Speaker 9: think of an opponent that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't accept.

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Speaker 8: I don't know them all. It takes on all commers,

631
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Speaker 8: just one fight on the prelims.

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Speaker 9: But oh, you know, I think I was lucky back that.

633
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Speaker 9: Now there's so many different fighters. I mean, back back

634
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 9: then there was like a couple hundred fighters in the UFC,

635
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Speaker 9: like two hundred maybe around him. Now there's what six

636
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Speaker 9: hundred something like that. So there's a lot more options

637
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Speaker 9: back then. There wasn't as many options. So I don't

638
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Speaker 9: know if I really uh had a ton of options

639
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Speaker 9: to even say no or yes or you know. But

640
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Speaker 9: Deshaun Shirk fight is one of those that come to

641
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Speaker 9: mind where I was like, I need more time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a whole lot of fights back then.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that book Kenny said there weren't options

644
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Speaker 5: and guys would just look in the fight. No, but

645
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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody was turning down anything. I don't

646
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Speaker 5: think you could have turned down anything back then, they

647
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Speaker 5: would have got rid of you. I think it was

648
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Speaker 5: definitely there was. You didn't even need to manager is

649
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: going to do nothing for you back then? Uh, right

650
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Speaker 5: room though, I mean, yeah, No, I don't think a

651
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: lot of at the fighter is making the call, you know,

652
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Speaker 5: because you could put you could have your input in there.

653
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Speaker 5: But when a guy wants to do what he wants

654
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Speaker 5: to do, he's gonna do it, you know.

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Speaker 10: That's it. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't think a lot of people love telling Joe

657
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Speaker 7: Silva no. Incidentally, but Kenny, did you see Sung wu

658
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Speaker 7: Choi over the weekend rate? Did you see Sung lu

659
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Speaker 7: Choi against Juliani Rosa on the main card, I did.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. That was one of the few preblems

661
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Speaker 2: I saw.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was now this was actually on the main

663
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Speaker 8: cat it was.

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Speaker 2: Early fights.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Yes, you're either way. It was an early show,

666
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 7: so uh, I beg your pardon, but dude, this song

667
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 7: Wu Choi. I told you guys, my new favorite fighter

668
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 7: is Brad Riddell. Now I'm trying to decide is it

669
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 7: Riddell or Soungu Choi or Vina j g Doba Ray

670
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 7: Sung Wu fucking Choi? And and then the post fight interview,

671
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 7: you know, with the English right and willingness to I mean,

672
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, if Soungwood Choi stays on this path

673
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 7: and embrace his learning English, it ain't just gonna be

674
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 7: the Korean zombie.

675
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 8: This kid can be an absolute star.

676
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 7: What do you think?

677
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I saw you Gotta remember I was at

678
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: the fights that night, so I came home late and

679
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 5: I tried to watch everything. So I saw the knockout,

680
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 5: but I didn't see the interview. But he looked from

681
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Speaker 5: what I saw, which was short, he looked good. But

682
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: I'd have to see a lot more.

683
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 7: Kenny, Yes, it was a ninety seven second fight, but

684
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 7: chips in the center of the table for me on Songwood.

685
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 9: CHOI he's a dangerous dude, man, And again you got

686
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 9: to put it in the context of who he fought.

687
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: I think Juliana Rose is a very tough kid.

688
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 9: Man.

689
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: He's really good everywhere he got caught.

690
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 9: They were both going for hooks, I believe, and Rosa

691
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 9: got caught with the heavier shot, got dropped and then

692
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 9: was taken out.

693
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: Excellent killer instincts. So yeah, I'm intrigued.

694
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 8: Five knockouts in twelve fights.

695
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 7: This show certainly did not set any record for spike

696
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: time in UFC history. Hey, Ray, anything else before before

697
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 7: we let you fly? I would just like to add

698
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 7: that if that is a natural tan, it must have

699
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 7: been very nice in New York over the weekend.

700
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Speaker 10: You look, the weather has been really good, and it's

701
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 10: of course it's natural.

702
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: No, I know, it's natural, always taking No, I mean.

703
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 7: I'm not so Yeah. I think we've sold like seventy

704
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Speaker 7: five T shirts.

705
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Speaker 10: Oh man, look at his face.

706
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, and Cody, I told you, yeah, Well, and I

707
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 7: bought two more Ray Long Go minute T shirts today.

708
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 8: This really isn't a shameless block.

709
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm just excited to buy my lambo with with Ray Longo. Money.

710
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 9: Kid, I'm just going, I mean a couple of one

711
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 9: lambo for you, Joe, one lambo for me.

712
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Speaker 2: We're making money.

713
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Speaker 10: Off of this guy. You're welcome.

714
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: I can't wait till the next Ring of Combat show.

715
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 7: You're just you're not gonna be able to avoid that

716
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 7: T shirt. It's just going to be all over the crowd,

717
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Speaker 7: you know.

718
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 10: July seventeenth.

719
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 7: There you go. So when will I see you next

720
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 7: on the UFC road Show? Do you know the answer

721
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 7: to that? Because Kenny and I are getting together in

722
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 7: Vegas in a couple of weeks and we'd love to

723
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 7: have yeah.

724
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 10: Wow, wait, wait, wait before I just real quick, ta woom.

725
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 10: Was the quarantine in Jersey this time? Same thing? Or

726
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 10: do you know if they had.

727
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 9: Us it's less now it was, dude, The original one

728
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 9: I think was seventeen days. Now I think it's like, uh,

729
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 9: nine days, maybe for ten days for the fighters for

730
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 9: the fighters. For me, it's I don't have a quarantine.

731
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 9: We get tested every day.

732
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: But wow, yeah, And.

733
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Speaker 7: It looks like the PFL finals, if I'm not mistaken,

734
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 7: are going to be in the Sunshine State here in Florida.

735
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: So h the semi the semi finals, semi finals.

736
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, all right, Ray, Well, as they say, have

737
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 7: a great day and a better evening if you don't

738
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 7: have anything else. But we appreciate you joining us off

739
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 7: the top of the show. You are still the star

740
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 7: of the show, and I appreciate you on. Like a

741
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 7: lot of these fighters, you're not all up in your feelings.

742
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 7: So you forgave me and we're moving on.

743
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, you got you gotta be able to bust balls

744
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 10: of life.

745
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 6: Man, that's I think.

746
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just having fun. I'm just Ray.

747
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 9: I still told him, if an Italian guy knocks on

748
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 9: his door, don't open it, right, all right, don't open it.

749
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: And that Florida has a lot of Italian guys still

750
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: eight actually have no place to hide. Whatever you do,

751
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: don't make the mistake and send me your address for anything.

752
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, good advice down here in New York South. All right, Ray.

753
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 8: How about Matt Brown by the way.

754
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that looks great.

755
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, still has the nasty enough they still has the

756
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: nasty prick in him. And the power does not die

757
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 7: at four. All right, buddy, Well, thanks for your contributions.

758
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 7: Oh next week. Here's what we're doing.

759
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 10: What do we do?

760
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 7: Doing a live Q and A? Right, because it's sort

761
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 7: of an unorthodox week for us. There's no UFC show

762
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 7: on my birthday July third, so we will do a

763
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 7: live Q and A. We will solicit questions up front.

764
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 7: You can also come into the chat room and join

765
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 7: us live and it will be the three of us.

766
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 8: So more details to follow on.

767
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 7: That, but uh, you know, excited might have to cancel

768
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 7: a private or two.

769
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 10: There's no problem.

770
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 8: I'm just kidding.

771
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: I don't have to work anymore with the T shirts,

772
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Speaker 5: sood what you're talking about.

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Speaker 8: That's good Now.

774
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 7: I can't wait till you actually get a check for

775
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Speaker 7: the T shirts and then we'll have that conversation. All right,

776
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 7: We'll have a great day and enjoy your cold brew

777
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 7: and all that, and we'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 10: Take it easy, guys, I'll ray long ago.

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Speaker 7: McDonald and Glason Tebow, Matt Brown and Diego Lima Kenny

812
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 7: have both been chasing this moment that materialized for Mac

813
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 7: Brown over the weekend. And I think when you evolve

814
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Speaker 7: as a mixed martial artist and you're devoted to the

815
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816
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,759
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817
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Speaker 7: present your best version today even if you are forty

818
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 7: years of age. So for three or four fights now,

819
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 7: Mack Brown has been saying like, I still have the

820
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 7: ultimate highlight in me, and then the motherfucker goes out

821
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 7: and does it. You know, as a plus one eighty underdog.

822
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 7: So what do you have for us on the forty

823
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 7: year old Mac Brown coming up?

824
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: Ladge?

825
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 9: I don't want to turn this into an ass kissing

826
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 9: event here for you, John, but I think what you know,

827
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 9: one of your strengths is always having that information that

828
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 9: kind of gives people the context of what's going on.

829
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: And I think and it's something I didn't even realize.

830
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 9: So, you know, awesome information there when you mentioned the

831
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 9: fact that Matt Brown was one of Diego Lima's coaches

832
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 9: on The Ultimate Fighter, right, one of a Strake coach,

833
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 9: So that's going to kind of play into your mind

834
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 9: a little bit. And I think that that definitely played

835
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 9: a role when you're when you're fighting a dude who

836
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 9: was your mentor, you know you're gonna be playing second

837
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 9: fiddle out there, and you may allow that person to

838
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 9: lead the dance a little bit. And I think that's

839
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 9: kind of what happened. Even in his good moments, Digo Lima.

840
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Never looked settled, He never looked.

841
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 9: So comfortable out there. A lot of that had to

842
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 9: do with the pressure of Matt Brown, but you wonder

843
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 9: what that kind of big brother mentality did to him

844
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 9: as he fought. So I thought that was really interesting

845
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 9: tidbit of information there that gave us a good context

846
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 9: and background of what.

847
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Was going on. But yeah, Matt Brown, man.

848
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 9: He's a nasty dude and he still loves to fight,

849
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 9: and man did he land that shot from hell.

850
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: That was just brutal.

851
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 9: He believed in the process, even though he was eating

852
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 9: a lot of leg kicks at the cap into the

853
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 9: leg and kept coming forward and landed that big shot

854
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 9: for the finish man. It was an awesome fight, and

855
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 9: Diego Lima was fighting a pretty good fight too, just

856
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 9: he stayed in front of Matt Brown for a little

857
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 9: bit too long and eight that shot at the wrong time.

858
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 7: Eventually, Diego Lima's going to get somebody with these calf kicks,

859
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 7: but it wasn't gonna be Bal Muhammad nor Matt Brown.

860
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 7: And I will tell you when Michael Bisbay asked Matt

861
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 7: Brown about any hesitation because of the history with Diego Lima,

862
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 7: it was actually Lima who had some initial hesitation, thinking, oh,

863
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 7: I hope Matt's okay with this, But then he thought, man,

864
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 7: Matt Brown's gonna want me to sign on the dotted line.

865
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 7: But it is crazy, I think Matt Brown in seven

866
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: knocks out Douglas Lima, and then in twenty twenty one

867
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 7: at fourty knocks out his brother Diego I mean wild.

868
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: Matt Brown one of the most decorated knockout artists in

869
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 7: UFC history. And when we were hosting MMA Live at

870
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 7: one point you may recall, you know, he had lost

871
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 7: three in a row and it looked like maybe his

872
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 7: job was on the line, and you know, borderline Hall

873
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 7: of famer as these credentials start to add up, just

874
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 7: with the legacy man, you know, it's like when you

875
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 7: start to start to align yourself with these names like

876
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: bell Ford and Saint Pierre and all these illustrious knockout artists.

877
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 7: Derek Lewis quite the body worked for that Brown.

878
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 9: And another dude, by the way, who actually know how

879
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 9: to use the elbows from the clinch. His knee elbow

880
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 9: combinations are tremendous. He's the other, you know, one a

881
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 9: handful of guys who who can do that.

882
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 7: So and I just have to say, because we have

883
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 7: to move on, and I don't I don't know if

884
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 7: you saw Viena Jangidoba so arm injury forced Kanako Murota

885
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 7: out of the fight due to a doctor stoppage after

886
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 7: ten minutes. But I'm telling you, like as great as

887
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 7: Murata is former Invicta FC strawweight champion, judo player, outstanding wrestler,

888
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 7: could have been an Olympian in Japan, if she wanted to.

889
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 7: But I'm sitting there looking at Vina Jangi Doba minus

890
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 7: one twenty five and I'm like, what am I missing?

891
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: Like she broke Mackenzie Dern's nose and she it was

892
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 7: like this version of Mackenzie Durn, Like she lost to

893
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 7: McKenzie Dern. But yeah, world class Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black

894
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 7: Belt Outstanding Striker strawwait is an embarrassment of riches, Like

895
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 7: Vina Janjidoba is the real fucking deal. She's must see

896
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 7: television and I'm really happy for her. And again like

897
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 7: Murata is a beast too, right, Murata got the red

898
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 7: corner even though she didn't have a ranking, so being

899
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 7: a Jangi do but we congratulate her. Chaos Williams Outstanding Fighter,

900
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: total commitment from him, fought a very game Matthew Semmelsberger

901
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 7: Uh and Ricky the Gladiator Glenn back for the first

902
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 7: time in a long time with a big knockout of

903
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 7: net to BJJ Joaquimi Silva Casey O'Neil. Big submission went

904
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of competition for bonus money,

905
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 7: not a lot of judges scorecards needed. Great UFC fight night.

906
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 7: Ken Flow was on the PFL sticks on Thursday night.

907
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 7: So Glason Tebow over Rory McDonald. For those who did

908
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 7: not see the fight, it looked like a huge upset.

909
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 7: But you called the fight and you did not think

910
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 7: the rightful winner had his hand raised.

911
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 8: Is that the case, no, sir, I saw that.

912
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 9: You know, for me, it was a Rory McDonald that

913
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 9: was really dictating the range. He was utilizing a lot

914
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 9: of weapons. He was landing a lot of shots. Glason

915
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 9: teabout his credit and as tough as he is, refused.

916
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: To go away. But he was landing, you know, he was,

917
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: he was getting landed on.

918
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 9: He he was eating a lot of different shots. You know,

919
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 9: the versatility of Roy McDonald was on full display. Rory

920
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 9: was able to take us back hit a takedown or

921
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 9: two against Glayson tebow, something that is extremely rare.

922
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: Glayson really wasn't able to put Rory on.

923
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 9: His back at all, and it looked like it was

924
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 9: going to be a pretty easy unanimous decision, or at

925
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 9: least twenty nine, sorry, at least you know, thirty twenty

926
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 9: seven for me, in my mind, I thought that's what

927
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: it was gonna be, or at least at twenty nine

928
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 9: to twenty eight decision for Rory McDonald. I thought the

929
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 9: third round was the strongest one for Glason, but I

930
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 9: still thought it was pretty easy to call. And man,

931
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 9: you know the judges, two judges sought the other way,

932
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 9: one judge sought for Rory, and I was just baffled,

933
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 9: you know, all of us were. You know, we have

934
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 9: different ways of judging the fights. You know, we have

935
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 9: this FPR thing, you know, Randy and I kind of

936
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 9: chime in to think what we did and verdict.

937
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: We show the.

938
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 9: Verdict, but everyone chimes in with the rowan and it just.

939
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Like across the board, it was all Rory.

940
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 8: It was just you know, score it and Glayson Tebow's corn.

941
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, something tells me he probably had it for Glayson,

942
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 9: but uh yeah, wild stuff.

943
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 8: And for Rory McDonald.

944
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 7: He will have to look at that red stripe on

945
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 7: his Wikipedia page forever. He doesn't strike me as a

946
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 7: Wikipedia guy necessarily, and in your format, correct me if

947
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 7: I'm wrong. But he still makes the playoffs, so doesn't

948
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 7: really lose anything exactly.

949
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 9: He advances, you know, he now has to match up

950
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 9: against Ray Cooper in the semifinals, which is a tough matchup,

951
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 9: but either way.

952
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: You know, he does advance.

953
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 7: This is true, all right, And I don't think either

954
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 7: of us saw Anderson Silva's win over Julio Savis Junior.

955
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 7: But I I'm really excited about that, even though, Oh

956
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 7: cool is that?

957
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 10: Man?

958
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 7: You know, I just I pushed out a tweet Saturday

959
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 7: night and Somebody's like, dude, what are you doing. I

960
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 7: didn't even know that it was going on right after

961
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 7: our show and I actually could have seen it, but uh,

962
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 7: pretty cool man. You know, to see him in some

963
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 7: of the highlights doing his thing.

964
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

965
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 9: It's an amazing and again it's a testament to him

966
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 9: as a martial artist and his willingness and courage to

967
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 9: you know, step out of mixed martial arts and to

968
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 9: compete in boxing against you know, uh, the son of

969
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 9: a of a true legend, and Julio says herself is junior.

970
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 9: And the fact that he was able to get it

971
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 9: done and gets to dude that that's all he does

972
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 9: was amazing, and you know, it was kind of a

973
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 9: It was a win for mixed martial arts.

974
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: You know, mixed martial arts.

975
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 9: Anytime we've been competing outside of that domain, it hasn't

976
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 9: done so well, So Anderson Silva putting the mixed martial

977
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 9: arts community on his back there a little bit pretty I.

978
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 7: Believe this is a tweet by the way, from Verdict

979
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 7: on the McDonald thing. Real quickly clearly defeated Glayson Tebow

980
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 7: on the global scorecard. There's never been a point differential

981
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 7: this big on Verdict where the opposite fighter has won.

982
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 10: Wow.

983
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 7: All right, so that's that. But yeah, pump for Anderson Silva, man,

984
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 7: absolutely pump for the guy. What a good fucking dude.

985
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 7: Speaking of good dudes, what do you think about Tyron

986
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 7: Woody's chances against Jake Paul And I'm just kidding.

987
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: We're not gonna go there. Will you be betting on

988
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 8: the fight?

989
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: Though?

990
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 7: Are you gonna be betting on that fight? I'm absolutely

991
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 7: going to be betting on the fight. I just will

992
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 7: not be telling people where my action is.

993
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 9: Man, I will I will be betting in my mind,

994
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 9: probably not actual money, but man, I'll be I'll be

995
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 9: cheering for for time Woodley.

996
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: That's for sure.

997
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 7: Looks like Game Bread with his his bare knuckle boxing promotion.

998
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 7: Game Bread Fighting or whatever it is, had one of

999
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 7: their first events Mississippi Me and Trade Mark Jason Knight

1000
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 7: was able to get a win. And I think I

1001
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 7: bring it up because I think they're paying the athletes

1002
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 7: some sort of bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

1003
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, dude, that's awesome. You know, thinking about

1004
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: the future.

1005
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 9: You know, hold on to your bitcoin, you know, don't

1006
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 9: think about the price now. It's what it's going to be.

1007
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 9: So that's like your little retirement. Put that away, forget

1008
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 9: about it. Secure it, get your own wallet, hold onto it,

1009
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 9: and then look at it in five or ten years.

1010
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 9: Then then then reap the rewards or put it away

1011
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 9: or you really should hold it forever.

1012
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: But anyways, you know, look into the future.

1013
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 9: I think that I think that's great for for for

1014
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 9: the fighters, but they have some kind of savings for later.

1015
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: That's the way I see it.

1016
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, below thirty three, thirty two, come on, just

1017
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 7: tryan not today to day watch it.

1018
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 8: Yes, buying those dips, baby, keep buying those dips.

1019
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right.

1020
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 8: That is going to do it.

1021
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 7: For our recap, we will make some predictions for UFC

1022
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: Fight Night Gone versus Volkov. We will get to our

1023
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: Anak and Florian podcast poll results. It was essentially fifty

1024
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 7: percent on both sides when I threw it out there

1025
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 7: this morning, but Cody will get those updated results. Today's

1026
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 7: Main Event challenge is brought to you by odd Shark,

1027
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,560
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1028
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
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1029
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1030
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,920
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1031
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,640
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1032
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Speaker 7: shark today. That's oddshark dot com. Don't forget the second s.

1033
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 7: Let's make some picks.

1034
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge and time is most.

1035
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 4: First fight.

1036
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 8: How do you everything possible to win?

1037
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge to John Hennick and Kenny Florian.

1038
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 7: Podcast all right joining us today to make selections. Longtime

1039
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: Annakin Floran podcast listener has his own podcast by the way,

1040
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 7: and a massive mixed martial arts fan, David Hanson.

1041
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 8: David, it's good to see you man.

1042
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 7: We appreciate the support, and uh we'll see if you

1043
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 7: can take down the great Kenny Florian in what is

1044
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 7: not his strong suit?

1045
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: This kidding?

1046
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 6: What is it?

1047
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: David?

1048
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 8: How you doing? Man?

1049
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 11: I'm doing great? Guys like I said, I appreciate you

1050
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 11: guys giving me the opportunity to come on and talk

1051
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 11: with you guys break down the fights for this weekend's

1052
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 11: great fight card.

1053
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, god damn right, David.

1054
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 7: Let's first update the standings two to two for Team

1055
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 7: Annaquan Team Flory in last week. So it is seventy

1056
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 7: five to fifty six and nineteen point deficit.

1057
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got some work to do.

1058
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I September, you might just have to start

1059
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 7: picking dogs. First fight for US today is going to

1060
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 7: be at light heavyweight Danilo Marquez minus won twenty five

1061
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 7: Kennedy in Zechiku even money, so fordist mmas in Zechiku

1062
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 7: really starting to come into his own huge win bonus

1063
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 7: knockout as an underdog after being sort of handpicked by

1064
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 7: Carlos Olberg's head coach Eugen Behman for that fight. Marquez

1065
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 7: out of King's MMA, has won four in a row.

1066
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 7: He's undefeated in the UFC. David, what do you think

1067
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 7: about this one of two hundred and five pounds so well?

1068
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 11: Obviously the last outing for in Zechiku, he he was

1069
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 11: getting kind of pieced apart by Olberg until he landed

1070
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 11: that that massive shot to put him down and with

1071
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 11: Danilo Marquez, he's he's really good about pressing up against

1072
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 11: the fence, using those really tricky sweeps and those trips

1073
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 11: to get his opponents down to the ground and use

1074
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 11: his ground and pound to work into a submission from there.

1075
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 11: And so I do believe that Danello Marquez will be

1076
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 11: able to pull this one out with his takedown ability,

1077
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 11: being able to push in Zechiku up against the fence

1078
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 11: using those trips and then possibly look for a submission.

1079
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 6: And I would say round two, all.

1080
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 8: Right, I like that you're giving us the method as well.

1081
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 7: Notice how David just pronounces in Zechaku like it's fucking nothing,

1082
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 7: ken flow. What do you think here? Interesting fight? I

1083
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: do think Marquez is going to pursue a floor fight.

1084
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: What do you think about this matchup and ultimately who

1085
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 7: wins it?

1086
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's accurate.

1087
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 9: I think and Zecha Ku definitely is gonna be a

1088
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 9: little bit more dangerous on the feet. But I do

1089
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 9: think Marquez will find a way to get to the clinch,

1090
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 9: take the fight to the ground control and look for

1091
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 9: a win there or just win by decision by doing

1092
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 9: that again and again.

1093
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think I think Danilo wins this all right,

1094
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 7: both guys like Danilo Marquez. Odds today courtesy of Draftking Sportsbook,

1095
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 7: and it is Monday, so these numbers effectively will change.

1096
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Speaker 7: It saw a lot of movement on Egay and the

1097
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 7: Korean Zombie last week. It was a pick them up

1098
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 7: until Thursday or Friday. EGA closed about minus one fifty

1099
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 7: two comin event this weekend at heavyweight Tanner the Bulldozer

1100
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 7: Boser minus one fifty taken on Ovin Saint Prux plus

1101
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 7: one twenty. We'll need the round the method of victory,

1102
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 7: so Boser. If you follow him on social media, he

1103
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 7: asked to be turned around quickly for what is the

1104
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 7: final fight of his UFC contract. He started three on

1105
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 7: one of the UFC and the only loss in that

1106
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 7: span came by decision to the credentialed seedle Gone. Now

1107
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 7: he's lost two straight, the last of which June fifth,

1108
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 7: split decision to the backyard shed aler Latifi. So Boser

1109
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 7: his words, fighting for his job here against osp David.

1110
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 8: Who do you have in the comin event?

1111
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 6: So Boser.

1112
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 11: He's got great footwork, especially for the heavyweight division. I

1113
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 11: noticed that in his last fight it looks like he

1114
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 11: came in a lot leaner than his previous fights. And

1115
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 11: with OSP, OSP's been around for a long time. You know,

1116
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 11: he was supposed to fight John Jones a long time ago.

1117
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 11: I believe, No, he did fight John Jones along, he

1118
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 11: did fight John Jones a long time ago. And you know,

1119
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 11: he was supposed to be like that next big thing.

1120
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 11: But everybody in the headwight heavyweight division is like the

1121
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 11: next big thing until they run into John Jones, as

1122
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 11: you guys all know. So with OSP, he didn't have

1123
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 11: a good showing against Ben Rothwell up at heavyweight. I'm

1124
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 11: very curious to see what he comes in on the

1125
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 11: scale at because this is a heavyweight fight. I'm hoping

1126
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 11: that he comes in around you know, not so much

1127
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 11: around the heavyweight limit, you know, more or less.

1128
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 6: Like two twenties.

1129
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 11: But I do think Boser is going to be too elusive,

1130
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 11: and I think that OSP he has a negative strike differential.

1131
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 11: You know, he's there to be his and I think

1132
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 11: that Boser is going to be able to get it done.

1133
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 11: I don't think that he's going to be able to

1134
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 11: take him out, but I think it's going to be

1135
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 11: by decision, all right.

1136
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 7: David likes Tanner Boser by decision. Both of these guys

1137
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 7: Kenny are light for the weight class. Saint Pru twenty

1138
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 7: three times UFC veteran, as you well know, hasn't fought

1139
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 7: since Atko lost to Jamal Hill last December. He missed

1140
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 7: weight for that fight, But of course this one is

1141
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 7: at heavyweight, so not an issue. He was going to

1142
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 7: face Maxim Grishin he had to pull out to a visa.

1143
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 7: Issues can flow osp Tanner Boser, who you have and

1144
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 7: how do they get it done?

1145
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 9: You know Ovin Saint Prue, I think that, you know,

1146
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 9: his most dangerous weapons on the feet really is that

1147
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 9: left high kick. His left hand is pretty deadly if

1148
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 9: he's able to land it as you come in. I

1149
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 9: think that Tanner Boser is gonna be ready for all

1150
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 9: those things. That what Tanner needs to be worried about,

1151
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 9: I think more than anything else is probably the takedown.

1152
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 9: I think Ovin Sant Prue's ability to put you on

1153
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 9: your back to set up that von flutchoke that he

1154
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 9: seems to get on everybody his ground and pound his

1155
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 9: control can be a problem. I don't think that's gonna

1156
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 9: happen against the larger Tanner Boser. I do think his

1157
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 9: footwork is very good for the most part at heavyweight.

1158
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 9: I think he has some of the best footwork. Actually,

1159
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 9: I think he hits hard when he's able to plant.

1160
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 9: I think he has a ton of potential. So I

1161
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 9: like Tanner in this one. You know, I think Tanner

1162
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 9: gets it done and I wouldn't be surprised to see

1163
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 9: a stoppage. I need some extra points. Let's go with

1164
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: Tanner Boser by TKO round two.

1165
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you on Boser at least

1166
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 7: in terms of the potential. I think three and three

1167
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 7: would have to classify as underachievement through six fights in

1168
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 7: the UFC. Granted, the last was a split unanimous against Arlovsky.

1169
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 7: Was close, I guess, but I thought Andre won that fight.

1170
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 7: So we'll see what Boser has for Saint Prue.

1171
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 8: All right, main event? Are pole results still coming in?

1172
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 7: Essentially fifty to fifty According to you guys, I love

1173
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 7: this fight. Seedle Gone minus one fifty five Alexander Volkov

1174
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 7: plus one twenty five. They're both future title challengers in

1175
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 7: my mind. Volkov in theory has less time to do it.

1176
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 7: I kind of hate that one of them is gonna

1177
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 7: be eliminated here because this is a definite eliminator in

1178
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 7: my mind, David Gone undefeated Volkov in the best form

1179
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: of his career, Volkov thirty three and eight gone eight

1180
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 7: to O.

1181
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 8: David, Who do you have in the main event this week?

1182
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 11: So Volkov and Gone. I when this fight got announced,

1183
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 11: I was extremely excited. This is two you know, experience heavyweights.

1184
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 11: Even though Gon is eight and oh, he has shown

1185
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 11: like a vast amount of experience in that octagon with

1186
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 11: with the way he can mix in his takedowns, his footwork,

1187
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 11: like he's very elusive for the heavyweight division, as like

1188
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 11: counter Canner Boser. That was a great fight when it

1189
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 11: did happen back you know, a few fights ago, and

1190
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 11: so but with with Volkov his his takedown defense. I

1191
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 11: think the reason why a takedown defense the percentage is

1192
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 11: so low is because of that Curtis Blades fight. I

1193
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 11: don't think that before that, I think it was a

1194
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 11: lot higher. I think Gon's going to have to work

1195
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 11: harder than his other opponents to be able to get

1196
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 11: him down to the floor. But we haven't seen Gone

1197
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 11: in those those five round fights yet. I think Volkov,

1198
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 11: with his experience, is going to be able to keep

1199
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 11: him at the end of his punches and then edge

1200
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 11: it out by decision. But I think it's going to

1201
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 11: be a very very close fight if Volkov can keep

1202
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 11: it off the floor.

1203
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 8: I can't wait to see it.

1204
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 7: And I always make excuses for Volkov Kenny with that

1205
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 7: blades fight because it was a COVID nineteen fight.

1206
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 8: He he had to take it.

1207
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 7: He had no wrestling training partners, none of the guys

1208
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 7: that he would have brought in or traveled to go

1209
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 7: get so. But I know you're pretty high on gon Kenny.

1210
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 7: What do you think about what we're going to see

1211
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 7: here on Saturday night?

1212
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 9: You know, Volkov is going to be a problem for

1213
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 9: a lot of people just based on his toughness, his reach,

1214
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 9: his height.

1215
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 2: The dude hits hard.

1216
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 9: You know, is really improving as a mixed martial artist

1217
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 9: as well. Has learned a lot in a short amount

1218
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 9: of time, it seems as a grappler specifically.

1219
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: But I do think that Cyril Gunn.

1220
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 9: His intelligence is what really separates him from a lot

1221
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 9: of the guys in that division.

1222
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: He just he has the right approach.

1223
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 9: He knows how to mix in his strikes, his grappling

1224
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 9: at the right time, understands distance and range. You don't

1225
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 9: really see him take a whole lot of damage, and

1226
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 9: that's in the heavyweight division. That that to me is rare.

1227
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 9: And you know he can also actually land a lot

1228
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 9: of shots and hurt a lot of guys as a result.

1229
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 9: So I think that's that's impressive in a heavyweight division.

1230
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 9: I like Cyril Gone here. Jeez, Volkoff is a guy

1231
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 9: who is very, very tough to put away. But I

1232
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 9: do think that Volkoff, after being down a few rounds,

1233
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 9: is going to have to step up, get aggressive, perhaps

1234
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 9: overly aggressive, and maybe run into something from Cerial Gone.

1235
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 9: I think Cyril Gone gets to finish here in the

1236
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 9: fourth round by TKO, and.

1237
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 7: I think given the standings can flow, you almost have

1238
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 7: to go see itle Gone. At this point in time,

1239
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 7: I was thinking maybe the punishment would be that we

1240
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 7: make you shave your beard.

1241
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: Actually, that's pretty good. I would not want to do that, right,

1242
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't know you wouldn't. It's as much as possible.

1243
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 7: So when was the last time you actually put a

1244
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 7: Gillette blade or any blade to your face?

1245
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 9: Actually, probably it was maybe a couple months before COVID maybe,

1246
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 9: uh so a couple of years ago, maybe something like that.

1247
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 9: I had a shave and like my daughter was like,

1248
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 9: who is right?

1249
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

1250
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 7: I gotta say though, the upside now is that you

1251
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 7: have a newborn baby, and dude, there is nothing like

1252
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 7: having a fresh shave with the newborn baby the head

1253
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: on the chin. So if you're leaning into the positives

1254
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 7: of shaving your beard, I would think that would be it.

1255
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: David.

1256
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 7: Before we get you out of here. At featherweight, we

1257
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 7: have a fight between Andre Pheeley minus two thirty and

1258
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 7: Daniel the pitt Paneda plus one eighty. I just need

1259
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 7: a quick pick record you're going with Philly or Daniel Pineda.

1260
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 7: I like Feely in this one, all right, and Ken

1261
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 7: Flow Phelly Pineda? Who do you have?

1262
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: Panata can be dangerous early, but I like Peelly to win.

1263
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 6: This one, all right.

1264
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 7: David Hanson can be found on social media at d

1265
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 7: Hanson MMA.

1266
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 8: Thanks for coming on, my man.

1267
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 7: Appreciate the analysis and the work and we'll be seeing

1268
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 7: what you're throwing out there on Twitter. But we appreciate

1269
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 7: you joining us today, sir.

1270
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 11: I appreciate you guys, thanks for having me on, and

1271
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 11: I hope to do it again soon sounds good?

1272
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 8: My man?

1273
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 7: All right, David Hanson with us for two day's main

1274
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 7: event challenge. Can you imagine Ken Flow shaving the head?

1275
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 7: It's almost like when am I doing TV?

1276
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1277
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 7: Because I mean, if you asked me, when was the

1278
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 7: last time I went on TV with like nothing on

1279
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 7: my face, no beard, no mustache, Like, I don't even

1280
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 7: want to think about that.

1281
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 8: I have to be like one.

1282
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 7: Hundred and thirty eight pounds to just not look like

1283
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 7: a big fucking fat face piece of shit, you know.

1284
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: Lies.

1285
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Well we'll see what happens with the

1286
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 7: punishment for the well the main event challenge. Ken Flow

1287
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 7: could rally as he's done in two of his wins,

1288
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 7: so you just never know. All right, Forest Griffin coming

1289
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 7: up here in a minute. Yeah, we're gonna roll all

1290
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 7: this into the show. Ken Flow, your buddy Forest Griffin

1291
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 7: was just talking about just you know how you're a

1292
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 7: fashion icon and you spend a lot of time in California,

1293
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 7: and so it's okay to have a baby when you're

1294
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 7: like forty five.

1295
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's normal by like Hollywood standards. You're like normal totally.

1296
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 9: The problem is is that like at sixty five, I'm

1297
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 9: gonna be like limping towards my kid. It's gonna be bad.

1298
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 9: I still, you know, I need to be able to

1299
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 9: kick my son's.

1300
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: Ass for a long time.

1301
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 6: And yeah, otherwise he.

1302
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Doesn't respect me.

1303
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 6: So it's totally different. But right, you have a son, like,

1304
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 6: what is that dynamic? You do actually have to be

1305
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 6: able to physically handle them.

1306
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: I have to. I need to instill fear. Yeah, yeah,

1307
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: I need to instill fear at some point.

1308
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 9: My daughter's sweet as can be, but my son it

1309
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 9: takes a different approach, I think.

1310
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 7: So it looks like Forrest just went black on us.

1311
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 7: But I still hear you loud and clear. But Forrest,

1312
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 7: like flow is going to show up out there.

1313
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 6: It's just trying to get my WiFi square it away.

1314
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 7: So I would joke about this because I had a

1315
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 7: son at a very advanced stage, and you know, it's like, oh, oh,

1316
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 7: Archer Florian and that's great, your grandfather showed up to

1317
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 7: the soccer today.

1318
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 8: Is like, no, no, that's my dad. That's my dad.

1319
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1320
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 7: But you know he doesn't have a white hair on

1321
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 7: his head, and neither do you, Forrest. I mean, is

1322
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 7: there any white, any gray hair at all on your head.

1323
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 8: My god.

1324
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's some I think it looks good myself, and

1325
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: they're a little smarter. I think, I mean that guy,

1326
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 6: he might know a thing or two.

1327
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 7: So so, Kenny actually just moved to uh to Charlotte,

1328
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 7: North Carolina, which is how far what a.

1329
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 6: Weird place to go? Ken, did you finally get to

1330
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 6: dig with Nascar? You did?

1331
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: You do?

1332
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 9: You know, I'm not the biggest NASCAR fan, but uh,

1333
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 9: I think you know, La was getting a little.

1334
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 6: Crazy for me. So yeah, yeah, I actually love I

1335
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 6: love North Carolina altogether.

1336
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think he made a good decision. I

1337
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 7: at one point that typing was distracting me. But at

1338
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 7: one point Kenny was considered Nashville, and I was like, dude,

1339
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 7: way too much fucking noise in Nashville.

1340
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Charlotte's a great.

1341
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 7: Ya, I love it.

1342
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 8: Of course, it is great to see you.

1343
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 7: You know, usually we bring you on like every one

1344
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 7: hundred episodes, you know, so it's episode three oh five.

1345
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 7: We missed by a little bit. But so I guess

1346
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 7: I'll start with you flying this twenty five million dollar

1347
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 7: aircraft because you posted a photo on Instagram and we

1348
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 7: see your name on the side of the plane, and

1349
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 7: I mean, do you have a background flying? How did

1350
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 7: this all come together?

1351
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 9: No?

1352
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 6: All right, so you know everything happens like four or

1353
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 6: five years ago. I was going to do a thing

1354
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 6: for the Air Force Reserves and a thing, and I

1355
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 6: signed up to fly on this basically to fly with

1356
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 6: the Thunderbirds, like the number one, you know, exhibition showplane

1357
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: place in the world, and totally forgot about it. And

1358
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 6: then they called me up and they said, hey, you

1359
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 6: have to get a medical in the next two weeks.

1360
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 6: You're flying with the Thunderbirds. They didn't ask like, is

1361
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 6: this still something you don't want to do. They were

1362
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 6: just like, get your stuff together, we need to hear

1363
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 6: on this date. You got to get all this paperwork

1364
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 6: done so you can come on base and get in

1365
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 6: the airplane. And I was like, well, you know you

1366
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 6: have to. You have to take advantage of these life

1367
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 6: experiences when you get Of course I did it. It

1368
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 6: was amazing. The one thing I'll say is if you

1369
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 6: think you passed out, don't ask if you passed out,

1370
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 6: because then people know you passed out. I saw the

1371
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 6: footage of me passing out and it wasn't that bad.

1372
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 6: You couldn't really tell that I was passing out. I

1373
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 6: probably could have bsd around it had I seen the

1374
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 6: footage first. But I was like, oh wait, how long

1375
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 6: was I out for it? And they were like two seconds.

1376
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, good, that's fine.

1377
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 10: Wow.

1378
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, it was amazing they actually let you fly

1379
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 6: the plane. You can't even believe it. It is I mean,

1380
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 6: it's I mean, you know, it's the coolest thing in

1381
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 6: the world. Right, it's a once in a life experience.

1382
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 6: It was pretty amazing.

1383
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 8: That is awesome.

1384
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 6: So throw up? I did throw up?

1385
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: Wow? When you did? When you throw up? Where did

1386
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: you throw up?

1387
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 3: Like?

1388
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: Do you throw up into that tube? Do you throw

1389
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: up all over yourself?

1390
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 6: No? They give you a bag.

1391
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 10: Like.

1392
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 6: Here's the thing is, when you're actually flying, there's so

1393
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 6: much adrenaline in your body. They told me most people

1394
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 6: fly on the ride back when you're not really doing anything.

1395
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 6: And sure enough, I threw up on my way back,

1396
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 6: Like my stomach was upset the whole time, which was

1397
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 6: really the only thing that wasn't great about it. But yeah,

1398
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 6: on the way back, when your body starts to shuttle down,

1399
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 6: basically your body's got too much going on to even

1400
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 6: throw up. When you're actually in the air pulling J's right.

1401
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: So what's the feeling like though? Is it like being

1402
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: like I get sick on a boat? Is that the

1403
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: same thing?

1404
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 9: Or is it like such an intense speed and directional.

1405
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: Thing that it's just throwing you off? Like are you dizzy?

1406
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: Are you like? What are you feeling?

1407
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 6: Well? So, yeah, I don't love I don't love like,

1408
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 6: you know, the kind of movement stuff. I don't love that,

1409
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 6: you know, because I'm because I'm old, you know, in

1410
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 6: our advanced age. Are our equilibriums not what it should be?

1411
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's like that. But then once you look

1412
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 6: out and you see like the canopy of the open

1413
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 6: sky or the ground, depending on which way you're you're going,

1414
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 6: or you're like in a bullets looking straight at the ground,

1415
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 6: you kind of forget all that and it's like amazing.

1416
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 6: The first feeling I got was claustrophobia because those things

1417
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 6: are tiny, and like the cutoff to be a pilot

1418
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 6: a six five. Well I'm six three, so it's like, wow,

1419
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 6: I'm kind of right there and literally you're like, oh

1420
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 6: my god, this is so small. All pilots should be

1421
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 6: five to six.

1422
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: That's why Tom Cruise was such a good top gun

1423
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: fighter pilot.

1424
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would rather take an amateur mixed martial arts

1425
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 7: fight than get in that airplane.

1426
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 8: I mean, there is no way, no way.

1427
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 6: Get It's amazing.

1428
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 8: It's thankfully people.

1429
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 7: Aren't coming my way with those once in a lifetime opportunities.

1430
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: Hey.

1431
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 8: So I always say to people for us, like, the

1432
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 8: best part my.

1433
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 7: Job is when a guy like Brandon Moreno breaks through

1434
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 7: and becomes a first time UFC champion. And I know,

1435
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 7: you know a lot of these guys super well, and

1436
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 7: I mean I know you know how nice a guy

1437
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 7: he is, but dude, like the best part of this

1438
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 7: job is seeing something like that. And uh, I think

1439
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 7: anybody who saw him that fight, we kind of had

1440
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 7: a feeling like he had put in the right work

1441
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 7: and he was he was going to break through.

1442
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 8: What'd you think of Brandon?

1443
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1444
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 6: You know, I loved it. I'll be lying if I

1445
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 6: said I didn't get a little emotional and it was like,

1446
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 6: you know, the thing that makes real men cry, And

1447
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 6: I would say that that was you know, that was

1448
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 6: true for me. I was like, oh my gosh, you know,

1449
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 6: I'm like watching the fights by myself on an iPad,

1450
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 6: like that. It was pretty cool. It was surreal. I've

1451
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 6: actually known him and his coach and his gym for

1452
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 6: about probably a decade, you know, since before he was

1453
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 6: in UFC, and then he got cut, and then when

1454
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 6: he came back, you know, I thought that was just

1455
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 6: such a good story, you know, the last pick on Tough,

1456
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 6: getting Limonade, getting get in a fight, getting cut, you know,

1457
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 6: and then just coming back and becoming a champion. And

1458
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 6: then if you look at his talent though, and his

1459
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 6: skill and his body, he's changed. He's done the work,

1460
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 6: you know, he's done the work. He's he's done the

1461
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 6: work and played with the legos. So it's it's give

1462
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 6: the man credit.

1463
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: Forrest. What what's the latest over at the UFCP.

1464
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: I man, Oh, they're cranking, you know, with with fights

1465
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: in town almost every week. Yeah, I mean they're just

1466
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 6: just giving athletes today fighters see we don't say fighters anymore,

1467
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 6: athletes today the kind of treatment that you only wish

1468
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 6: you could have gotten there. It's amazing. Next time you're

1469
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 6: in talent, stop in. I'll uh.

1470
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 9: I will be in a couple of weeks before the

1471
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 9: Conna McGregor fight, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be cornering

1472
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 9: Ryan Hall for his next fight. So I'm excited man

1473
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 9: to check it out. What's the what's the protocol right

1474
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 9: now for teams? Can any team go in in there

1475
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 9: at any point right now or.

1476
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: What's what's the deal with?

1477
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, right now, there is a limit of three training partners,

1478
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 6: so you can bring actually four, you know, because you

1479
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 6: have the co main events that have four, so we

1480
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 6: kind of let everybody have four. And then we have

1481
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 6: like a COVID testing protocol and we have some bubble

1482
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 6: policies that are enforced on starting Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1483
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 6: so we keep basically the fight week athletes separate from

1484
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 6: the non fight week athletes. But and then our physical

1485
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: therapists and sports statisians they go to the hotel and

1486
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 6: they you know, they do with the athletes there. So

1487
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 6: it's it's pretty cool.

1488
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1489
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it is amazing. It is amazing cool. And

1490
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 6: you know, if you are a UFC fighter and you

1491
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 6: haven't tried it out, you know, your next fight week Tuesday,

1492
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 6: when they're like, hey, will you be using blah blah blah,

1493
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 6: just say yes to all of it. Yes, I want

1494
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 6: all of it right Well, I don't know, but give

1495
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 6: me all of it.

1496
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: Definitely.

1497
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 7: Did you guys ever talk in the early stages about, man,

1498
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 7: what if like three hundred and fifty of these athletes

1499
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 7: legitimately moved to Vegas, like because a lot of them

1500
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 7: are doing it.

1501
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 6: So that's no. Well, we thought it is like, we're

1502
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 6: going to have to build like six of these, aren't.

1503
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: We right right?

1504
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 6: Oh, you know we're gonna build on Mexico City. Europe

1505
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 6: needs one, Brazil desperately needs one.

1506
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1507
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 6: We we thought we got to turn into a franchise.

1508
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 6: We gotta be like a McDonald's or something. You know,

1509
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 6: we got to start pop up locations around the world.

1510
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 6: You know, Russia they want one in Russia, you know.

1511
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: Right, It's awesome, yeah, because I mean there are a

1512
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 7: lot of high profile athletes and obviously there's plenty of space.

1513
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 8: But uh, I don't know.

1514
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 7: I just always thought, if you're on this roster and

1515
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 7: you're not taking advantage of that, I mean, forget during

1516
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 7: fight week, right, I mean, anybody can come out and

1517
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 7: go through the VO two max capacity testing and all

1518
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 7: that stuff. I mean, like, I don't I don't even

1519
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 7: dare want to ask how many athletes on the roster

1520
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 7: have never stepped foot in that I even think of.

1521
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 9: Something like I had to buy an octagon, Like I

1522
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 9: had to buy a cage to put into Florida Martial

1523
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 9: Arts Center when I was fighting. Like you know what

1524
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 9: I mean, Like, think about all the things that you

1525
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 9: save money wise, and your ability to be able to

1526
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 9: train under those conditions that have access all that stuff

1527
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 9: is pretty damn cool.

1528
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: Man.

1529
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's best in class on every level,

1530
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 6: but but you know, you still have to do your MMA.

1531
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 6: The other thing I wanted to follow up on is

1532
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 6: if you think about the way martial arts or fighting

1533
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 6: is done, there's almost subtle regional differences in the training habits.

1534
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 6: So I think that's one of the things one of

1535
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 6: the reasons why we need more performance institutes around the

1536
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 6: world is not just the language and the cultural differences,

1537
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 6: but the training differences. But and that has actually been

1538
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 6: one of the best things about COVID is we've gotten

1539
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 6: hundreds of athletes, UFC athletes and training partners from around

1540
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 6: the world, and we've gotten to kind of see them

1541
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 6: train and how they run their camp and what a

1542
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 6: lot of people do is because the fights are always

1543
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 6: in Vegas. They come, Well, I'll just come out two

1544
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 6: or three weeks early, get acclimated because you know, I'm

1545
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 6: I'm in Russia right now. I need to be on

1546
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 6: that that time zone, I need to be at that altitude,

1547
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 6: get used to it, and I'll just use the Performance

1548
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 6: Institute for the last bit of my camp and bring

1549
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 6: my people. So we've gotten to see just you know,

1550
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 6: and the differences on is as. I think people really

1551
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 6: do train martial arts very differently around the world. So

1552
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 6: it's pretty been pretty interesting for me. If I really

1553
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 6: wish I would have kept better track of it. Yeah,

1554
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: like what that's amazing.

1555
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 7: Well, my grandfather told me twenty years ago, dude, if

1556
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 7: you just suck it up and write two sentences about

1557
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 7: your every day, in ten years, you'll have a memoir.

1558
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 8: And I have done that like three days over last

1559
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 8: ten years.

1560
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 7: So UFC Hall of Famer former light heavyweight Champion Forrest

1561
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 7: Griffin with us here on the anticin Florian podcast. So

1562
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 7: Francis and Ganu, I mean a lot of us thought

1563
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 7: it was an eventuality that he would break through and

1564
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 7: become the UFC heavyweight champion. And I guess my question

1565
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 7: is not about Derek Lewis or Stepe, but about like

1566
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 7: how big a superstar you actually think this man can be.

1567
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 7: I mean, it would seem to me like a major

1568
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 7: motion picture about his life obviously has to happen, but

1569
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,440
Speaker 7: I think a lot of these things are somewhat predicated

1570
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 7: about his ability to defend this belt, and the Black

1571
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 7: Beasts might have a lot to say about that in.

1572
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 6: A few months. Yeah, I mean, you know, here's the thing. Well,

1573
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 6: first off, yes, Francis is huge, He's a superstar. His

1574
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 6: story is amazing. I won't bother to tell it to you,

1575
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 6: either hear from him or I believe there's a documentary

1576
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 6: about his story. But yeah, it's amazing. You know when

1577
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 6: he tells the story about like the seventh time he

1578
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 6: tried to get across the oce, Like what what is this?

1579
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 6: Is crazy? Like where's the where's the Hollywood script guy

1580
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 6: writing this stuff down? But let's look at that first fight.

1581
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 6: So he was working actually at Syndicate for that fight.

1582
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 6: And my belief is that when Francis threw a kick

1583
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 6: early in that fight, that he didn't set up just

1584
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 6: like a naked kick, which sometimes you do early in

1585
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 6: fights and sometimes you pay for it, and I believe

1586
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 6: that Derek Lues hit him a little bit and he

1587
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 6: felt something that he wasn't used to feeling. He felt

1588
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 6: a little bit of like, oh that guy, that guy

1589
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 6: can hurt me back. Yeah, if we've seen Derek Lewis,

1590
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 6: that's a thing. So look back to the first maybe

1591
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 6: two minutes of that first fight, and I think that's

1592
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 6: why it ended up being such a stalemate, because we

1593
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 6: don't like to say boring fight, such a stalemateation. Yeah,

1594
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 6: there's a tactical nullification there, and I believe that is

1595
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 6: because he threw that kick that wasn't set up properly.

1596
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 6: Derek Lewis touched him just a little bit and he said, Okay,

1597
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 6: there's a guy that can hurt me back. I'm not

1598
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 6: so used to that. And then the way he thought,

1599
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 6: who's the guy that just knocked the other guy out

1600
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 6: with fun of from surnaw, what's his name? He charged

1601
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 6: across like he had no respect for Rosenstrup's power and

1602
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 6: that man just he he doesn't even touch people in

1603
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 6: the areas you would think that cause knockout. He touched

1604
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 6: people like glancing headshots and they're like fall unconsciously, and

1605
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 6: he charged across at that guy. I thought that was crazy. So, yeah,

1606
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 6: you know.

1607
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 7: That's interesting tactical nullification.

1608
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 6: We got a great Yeah, we got a great matchup

1609
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: this weekend. Syah Ghan is a guy just because of

1610
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 6: his physique, I must say. I started watching him and

1611
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 6: then watching him move, and I've gotten to see him

1612
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 6: spar a couple of times, and like the footwork for

1613
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 6: a man that size, the reaction time, et cetera, it's

1614
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 6: pretty impressive. So and you know, he came out of

1615
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 6: the same gym that Francis started then, right, and he's

1616
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 6: with He's still with those guys. So I think that's

1617
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 6: an interesting story. Maybe, you know, for the future, to

1618
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 6: keep your eye on that.

1619
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 8: Oh, there's no doubt.

1620
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 6: After we see how it does this weekend against.

1621
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 7: Bolkov, fernand Lopez, potentially cornering against Francis and Ghano, I mean,

1622
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 7: be very interesting if that were to materialize.

1623
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 8: And yeah, man, like heavyweight is really interesting.

1624
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 7: Right now, I hate to be the guy who says

1625
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 7: I hate that one of these guys has to lose

1626
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,440
Speaker 7: this weekend, but this version of Volkov is an absolute

1627
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 7: animal and a great test for selal Gan. Right now,

1628
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 7: all right, a couple more things here with Forrest and

1629
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 7: but by the way, if it is in Ghano and

1630
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 7: Derek Lewis, like, you absolutely just helped me with my

1631
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 7: pay per view open with tactical nullification, So thank you

1632
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 7: for that.

1633
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: All right.

1634
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 7: So Dustin Poorier and Konoma Gregor fought in twenty fourteen.

1635
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 7: Then it took seven years for them to fight again

1636
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 7: up a weight class. So it seems sort of an

1637
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 7: interesting juxtaposition that they go seven years between meetings and

1638
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 7: then now just six months between meetings. I think Connor

1639
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 7: can be encouraged by the fact that it is a

1640
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 7: game of millimeters and he was close to landing the

1641
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 7: seminal blow in the second fight. But most people I

1642
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 7: talked to for Is just don't feel like it's enough

1643
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 7: time for Connor to make the adjustments. I feel like

1644
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 7: Connor can dust anybody in a couple of minutes. I'm

1645
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 7: not asking for a lean, But how do you handicap

1646
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 7: this third meeting between Connor and Dustin.

1647
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 6: Well, let's look at two things you mentioned there. One

1648
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 6: it was really one adjust There's one adjustment that Connor

1649
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 6: needs to make, and that's defending the cafkick that set

1650
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 6: everything up. I think I watched somebody's breakdown and Connor

1651
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 6: was actually flinchy with the legs when he got called

1652
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 6: with the punch. The other thing though, that I don't

1653
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 6: think you said that Connor was missing by millimeters. I

1654
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 6: feel like he landed some landing for and Poyer was

1655
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 6: able to eat down and I thought that was the difference.

1656
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 6: So when Poyer was like, oh wow, I took that shot,

1657
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 6: I think maybe for him that changed things. And you

1658
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 6: know there's all the talk about what happens to your

1659
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 6: chin that will weight class and you know we well,

1660
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 6: I mean Connor was taken or excuse me, Poyer was

1661
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 6: taking big shots from Connor, and you know, not only

1662
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 6: did he stay conscious, but he was able to knock

1663
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 6: Connor out. And just you know, I was just stay

1664
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 6: on the calf kicks, that the ever dreaded calf kick.

1665
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 6: But I think that those are the two things that

1666
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 6: are big in that fight. Is that Poyer took that power.

1667
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I think that's an important point.

1668
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 7: And Dustin going in there all filled out one hundred

1669
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 7: and eighty pounds and certainly better equipped to take a

1670
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 7: shot than at forty five. All right, So before I

1671
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 7: let you go, the Atlanta Hawks are in the Eastern

1672
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 7: Conference Finals. I mean, to what extent do you give

1673
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,839
Speaker 7: a shit about the NBA outfit in your former hometown.

1674
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 6: Well, first off, this is the first I'm hearing about it. Yes,

1675
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 6: go Hawks.

1676
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 10: I love.

1677
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 6: I was, I was Kevin Willis, Dominique, I was. I

1678
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 6: was the biggest Hawks fan in the nineties. Unfortunately for me,

1679
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 6: uh Stacy Augmen, the plastic man got a Uk Blaylock.

1680
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: For a while.

1681
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 8: Oh look at you, look at you.

1682
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 6: No, I was nineties NBA basketball. There's a there's a

1683
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 6: spread where that's That's everything I did. I still have

1684
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 6: all these guys rookie cards. If anybody's interested in buying them,

1685
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 6: I'll just put that out there.

1686
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 7: But that's good.

1687
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 6: I'm excited for the Hawks. Then I'm gonna watch I love.

1688
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 6: I love the last quarter of a playoff game.

1689
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 8: No, well, that's the rub right there.

1690
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 7: I have no use for the regular season in the

1691
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 7: NBA as well, like I can't sit down and watch

1692
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 7: a non playoff game. So I'm with you there, Mookie Blaylock.

1693
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 7: You didn't think you'd hear that name today. Number ten

1694
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 7: in your program, number one in you hot for us,

1695
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 7: But seriously, Trey Young is the best player on the Hawks, right.

1696
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 7: He's a young kid, third year in the league, I think,

1697
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 7: and they're in the final four, man, so maybe start

1698
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 7: paying attention. They play at like four o'clock your time,

1699
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 7: But you know.

1700
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 6: I will, I will. That's awesome, Yeah.

1701
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 7: Hawks, Well, hey, thanks for the time. It's always good

1702
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 7: to see your smiling face. And uh, hopefully the three

1703
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 7: of us can connect at some point in Vegas next month.

1704
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 6: I would love that.

1705
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 10: Hit me up.

1706
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 6: Also, Happy Father's Day to you two. Congratulations Ken you

1707
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 6: as well. Brother, you can still do that at your age.

1708
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 6: That's just the base.

1709
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 8: You gotta do it. We'll see you soon.

1710
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 7: He is the great, inimitable UFC Hall of Famer Forrest Griffin.

1711
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 7: Are you liking them trotting out all this old Ultimate

1712
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 7: Fighter footage? I guess when you knock out Chris Leeban

1713
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 7: with an elbow, you're okay. When they repurpose that, well.

1714
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 9: It's funny because I mean getting a lot of different

1715
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 9: messages from people.

1716
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, where are people seeing this? Why is the

1717
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: Ultimate Fighter cut up again?

1718
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 9: But they put it on uh on the ESPN plus

1719
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 9: app and uh yeah, it's a it's almost like I'm

1720
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 9: getting new fans in some way, probably some new haters

1721
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 9: as well.

1722
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that that's kind of cool. I think.

1723
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think for a lot of the young fans,

1724
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 7: right who are just three years in or maybe you know,

1725
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 7: and they are watching UFC fights, they just don't know

1726
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 7: the legend Kenny Flord and you don't know maybe now you.

1727
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 9: Know Ultimate Fighter nineteen eighty five, the first season.

1728
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, if you like Ken Flow's Dad cap Anti

1729
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 7: Florian podcast, dot com is where you can get it.

1730
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 7: Don't forget flowtube. Ken flows YouTube channel. Still haven't put

1731
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 7: the flow tube at the top. Don't be afraid to

1732
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 7: steal the flow tube. Do you have a show for

1733
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 7: the uh Premiere Fighters Legion on.

1734
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 2: The Premier Fighters are going to Jersey Professional Fighters League.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I'm sorry, we do, no, no, no, wrong, we do.

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Speaker 9: We got the we got the women's one fifty five

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Speaker 9: and we got the heavyweights going at it. Uh and

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Speaker 9: this will herman who gets into the playoffs or the semifinals.

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Speaker 8: So does that mean fighting Thursday night? Is Kayla Harrison

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Speaker 8: fighting Thursday night?

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Speaker 2: She is? Indeed, she is.

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Speaker 8: Indeed, I'm having a Harrison party at my house.

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Speaker 2: If you see her in South Florida. You better go

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Speaker 2: the other way. Don't challenge her.

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Speaker 7: Bro I want to hug Kayla, I want don't challenge her, Okay,

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Speaker 7: anybody I know she can toss me with Yeah she could,

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Speaker 7: all right, Thanks everybody for indulging us. Thanks to our

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Speaker 7: guests David Hanson and Ray Longo, and of course for

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Speaker 7: s Griffin who you just heard from. So next week

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01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 7: it will not be in the traditional Monday slot, but

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 7: the audio will be repurposed on iTunes and everywhere where

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01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 7: you get your podcasts, and there will be obviously a

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 7: video that will be live in addition to UH to

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Speaker 7: repurposed on on the YouTube channel, So stay.

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Speaker 8: Tuned for that.

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 7: Feel free to start firing questions to to Cody or

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01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 7: at Anti Floridane pot or whatever the hell you want.

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 7: Be creative, uh, and we look forward to going back

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 7: and forth with you guys next week.

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Speaker 8: You got anything else?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 8: Can we get the hell out of here?

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: Dude? That's it? Kid? All right? Enough?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 7: Well, uh don't have any more kids, uh, And thanks

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Speaker 7: to Cody for putting this all together for Ken fam,

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Speaker 7: John Annix, and so long for now until we convene again.

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Speaker 7: Do not text and drive and uh militant?

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Speaker 8: How nice is it? No masks right fucking nationwide?

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Speaker 2: Yo?

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Speaker 6: Later h.

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Speaker 3: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time. On Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 3: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 3: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 3: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 3: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 3: Jews in England, he go to jail for that. Here

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01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 3: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to

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Speaker 3: Too Many Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or

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Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts.