1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. When history has made the bystanders tend to 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: get forgotten. We remember Abraham Zapp Router because he filmed 8 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the most famous twenty six seconds ever captured on camera, 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. But what about 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Jean Boone. The name might not ring a bell, but 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Boone was the sheriff's deputy who found Oswald's rifle in 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: the book depository. And then there's Fred Capps. He wasn't 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: witnessed to a presidential tragedy, just missed opportunity. Capps was 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: fairly well known among professional magicians, but very few people 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: today remember his appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show in 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four. Why because he had the unfortunate luck 17 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: of following up America's first glimpse of a brand new 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: rock band from England, the Beatles. Samuel also seemed like 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: just another bystander. However, he had one heck of a 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: story to tell. He was born in eastern Maryland and 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: grew up in a farm there before moving to Arlington, 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Virginia with his wife Mary, where they raised their family. Eventually, though, 23 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Samuel moved back to his home state of Maryland. The 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: most incredible thing he ever saw occurred when he was 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: just five years old. His father worked for the Goldsborough's, 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: a rich family in Talbot County, Maryland. One night, Mr 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Seymour and Mr Goldsboro had traveled to Washington, d C. 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: On business, and young Samuel was allowed to tag along. 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: While the boy's father and Mr Goldsboro were attending to 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: their business, Mrs Goldsboro and Samuel it would attend to play. 31 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: They knew it would be an event to remember too, 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: because they were let in on a not so secret 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: bit of information. A very special guest would be in 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the audience that night. Years later, the year old Samuel 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: was invited to appear on a popular television game show, 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and he almost didn't make it. Shortly after arriving in 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: New York, he fell and hurt his right eye. He 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: visited a local doctor who cleared him for his TV appearance, 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: although the producers urged him to postpone until he was 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: fully healed. Samuel, though refused he was too old and 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: he might not get another chance. He wanted to tell 42 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: his story, so he sat next to the host who 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: introduced him to the audience as well as the panel 44 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: of celebrity guests. But the host didn't tell anyone why 45 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Samuel was there. You see, that was up to them 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: to figure out. The show was called I've Got a Secret, 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: and the goal was for the panelist to ask a 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: series of yes or no questions until they could figure 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: out the guests hidden identity. Radio and TV star Bill 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Cullen kicked things by trying to assess Samuel's age. After 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: a while, he deduced that whatever the secret was, it 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: had to do with the American Civil War. One by one, 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: each panelist asked their questions, drilling down to the truth 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: about Samuel Seymour. They eventually discovered that when he was 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: just five years old, Samuel did more than just to 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: tend a show in Washington, d C. The show Mrs 57 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Goldsborough had taken Samuel two was called Our American Cousin. 58 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: They sat in the balcony directly across from the special 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: guest of the evening, President Abraham Lincoln. Samuel remembered him 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: being tall and serious in his demeanor, although he smiled 61 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and waved the crowd before the show. While watching the play, 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: a shot rang out. A woman screamed, and Samuel looked 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: up to see the President fall forward. Another man, who 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: he had later learned was John Wilkes Booth, leapt onto 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: the stage and broke his leg. Samuel, unsure about what 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: had just happened, felt bad for the man with the 67 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: injured leg. He begged Mrs Goldsboro to go down and 68 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: help him, but shouting from the crowd drowned out his cries. 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Lincoln's shot, they said. The President's dead Booth slipped away 70 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: in the commotion and wouldn't be found for another twelve days. 71 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Samuel Seymour you See, was born in eighteen sixty and 72 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: during his appearance on that game show in nineteen fifty six, 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: he revealed himself to the world as the last surviving 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: witness to the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln. Curious you 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: better believe it. Oftentimes, when lawmakers try to make a change, 76 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: they're met with resistance. Nobody likes to be told what 77 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: to do, especially by folks who think they know better. 78 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: Movements have been started and systems have been ended simply 79 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: because someone stood up and said no. Others, however, aren't 80 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: so brazen. They rebel more quietly from deep underground, or 81 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: sometimes from the top of bar stool. In eight nine six, 82 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: lawmakers in New York State passed to law that affected 83 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: both the regular public and business owners alike. New York 84 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: City had become known as a den of sin, where 85 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: men and women would drink all night and day. Public 86 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: drunkenness had become a serious problem to the more conservative 87 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: legislators up state. It didn't help that the city's mayor 88 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: and other governing bodies weren't enforcing the strict Sabbath laws. Sunday, 89 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: you see, was meant for the Holy Spirit, not other 90 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: kinds of spirits. Meanwhile, an up and coming political powerhouse 91 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: was making a name for himself in the city. His 92 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: name was Theodore Roosevelt, and he threw his support behind 93 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: a brand new law, the Reigns Law, which would make 94 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: it impossible for most of the eight thousand bars and 95 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: dives in the five boroughs to be able to stay 96 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: in business. Among other things, the Reigns law made the 97 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: cost of an annual liquor license prohibitively expensive, seedier saloons 98 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: that catered to crimine knolls and ne'er do wells couldn't 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: afford to stay open. The law also eliminated the free lunch, 100 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: a common perk when drinking at Many bars offering complimentary 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: boiled eggs or soda bread kept drinkers fed, which meant 102 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: they kept ordering drinks as long as they had money. 103 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: But the law eventually passed, and it worked exactly as 104 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: they had planned. Bars locked their doors at midnight on Saturday's. 105 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Places that did remain open on Sundays had to keep 106 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: their curtains open so passing beat cops could see inside 107 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: to make sure no one was serving liquor. But there 108 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: was a loophole, one so big the city's elite could 109 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: drive a train through it if they wanted to. Any 110 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: hotel or establishment with ten or more rooms could serve 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: alcohol on Sundays as long as lunch was provided well. 112 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: It didn't take long for the loophole to widen enough 113 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: for everyone, regardless of social status, to walk on through. 114 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: Dive bars Suddenly became private clubs with memberships. Rooms barely 115 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: big enough to fit a bed were built into add 116 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: a and basements, and a new sandwich was born, the 117 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: rains sandwich. It was more substantial than the usual bar 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: fare of peanuts and pretzels, and the authorities didn't mind it. 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Neither the comps nor the courts fought these new hotels 120 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: or lodging houses for exploiting the law to their benefit, 121 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: and as they sprouted up all over the city, the 122 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: rain sandwich craze spread with it. Now, the thing about 123 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: the sandwich was that its ingredients always changed depending on 124 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: who was making it. Sometimes it would be made with 125 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: cold cuts that were so old they had shriveled into 126 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: dried jerky, or cheese covered in spots of green mold. 127 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: The bread was often too stale and crusty to stay together. 128 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: At the Waldorf Astoria hotel, where New York society came 129 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to schmooze and booze, the sandwich was made with old 130 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: meat patties. A few bars even made the rain sandwich 131 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: using nothing more than a brick and two slices of bread, 132 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: and as one person finished their drink, the so called 133 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: sandwich would be whisked off to another table with a 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: fresh glass. The point of the sandwich wasn't to eat it, 135 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: It was so patrons could order a meal to drink 136 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: according to the law. Unfortunately, the good times didn't last forever. 137 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: The man who had written the law, Senator John W. Raines, 138 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: realized that he had to close the loophole. The following year, 139 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: amendments were made that made it almost impossible for the 140 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: poor and middle class to get a drink on Sundays, 141 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: and so once again it became a luxury meant only 142 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: for the rich, and the cops and lawmakers backed off. 143 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Part of the deal centered around the price of the 144 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: rain sandwich, which skyrocketed by fifty to the era of 145 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: poor men and women spending their days on a bar 146 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: stool shooting the breeze had faded into the past, and 147 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: as most New Yorkers came to realize, there was no 148 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: free lunch either. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour 149 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: of the Cabinet of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, 150 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: or learn more about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast 151 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: dot com. The show was created by me Aaron Manky 152 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: in partnership with how Stuff Works, I make another award 153 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: winning show called Lore, which is a podcast, book series, 154 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: and television show and you can learn all about it 155 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: over at the world of Lore dot com. And until 156 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: next time, stay curious. Yeah,