1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Tasker, Stett, Welcome to One Bill's Live. Steve 2 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Tasker and Chris Brown in on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon. 3 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: And as we look down on our little camera on 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: the field across, that's progress. That is progress. The actual 5 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: gridiron of new era of Field and the new turf 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: is on. It's there. You can see this yard stripes 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: in the end zones, the end zones. Just in case 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: you're all wondering out there, the end zones are gonna 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: be blue, still blue, still blue. They're gonna be continue 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: to be blue. They have as when they changed over 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: from the red ones a handful of years ago. New 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Field is up. Welcome to the show, Steve Tasker along 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown and One Bills Live from One Bills Drive. 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: And it is a beautiful day. We got a bunch 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about. Murph is on vacation. Um 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about I don't know. We got a lot 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: of stuff going on. One of the things we're gonna 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: have John Randall on the show today in our theme 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Famer John Randall. John Randall, a 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer who was not drafted by the NFL, 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: spent he spent a little time in boy I think 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Baltimore or someplace like that, and it ended up, of 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: course in Minnesota, and had a Hall of Fame career 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty seven and a half career sacks 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: from his spot of defensive tiger. He was a stud 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: averaged in fourteen years, had one hundred and thirty seven 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. He was a guy man, and 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. I've gotten to meet him since 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: he went in the Hall of Fame. He and Thurman, Bruce, 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Jim and Andre are kind of buddies. I've I've rubbed 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: up against him a couple of times, you know, and 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: said hi to him. Great human being, a wonderful Hall 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: of Famer, a great ambassador for the NFL. He's coming 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: on with us at too. Have you ever met him? 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: No big time talker on the field, though, Oh baby, 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: he was a world the motor. His mouth was almost 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: as good as his motor on the field, actually have 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: been better. His energy level was unrivaled, unrivaled, maybe maybe 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: one of the most energetic players on the field for 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: a fourteen year career at that time. And our producer 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Jay Harris found a funny clip on Facebook of a 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: commercial that he once did and hopefully we'll get a 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: chance to run it here during the show for our 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: MSG viewers to see. But he's been he's basically making 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: cookies to send to all the opponents he faced that 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: he trash talked and be rated and insulted. Uh and 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: these decorating cookies that say my bad on it and 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: he's sending you gotta see it. It's really good. That's great. 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: We gotta get that on. And so we're gonna talk 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: about hit John Randall. He's coming on at two o'clock. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a little theme about what are some 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: of the great undrafted players. We're gonna talk about that 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: some of the great undrafted players in the history of 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: the game, and our Twitter poll of the day and 55 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the topic it along those lines is which undrafted player 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster will have the biggest packed in 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And we gave you four choices, but you 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: can obviously choose anybody you want. We more than four. Yeah, 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: there's a yeah, you can. We gave you four, but 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: you can choose any other player and we'll give you 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: the whole list as well. But the four we chose 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: of Robert Foster, Colby's Lee, Lorenzo Alexander, and Levi Wallace. 63 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: Now there's a ton of guys obviously on the Bill's 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: roster that we're not drafted, but these are the four 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: we kind of, you know, the most likely candidates. We've 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: also got a list of the most that was put 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: out twenty five most influential or best football players who 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: were undrafted and how they didn't. Obviously there's a bunch 69 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: of Hall of famers on that list who didn't get drafted. 70 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Levion Bell's back in the news for his nine one 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: one call after he got the jewelry rod. That'll be 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: fun to talk. It's it's classic. There's also a player 73 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Brackett has been revealed, Chad Johnson, remember Ocho Cinco. He's 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: got this idea where he's gonna get sixteen guys and 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a runoff of forty yard dash races. 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be head to head races, elimination. Brackett top guy, 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I gets a million bucks and gets to run forty 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: yards home. You know, I mean, it's very nice. We're 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna talk a little bit about that. 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: The Tyreek Hill is meeting with the NFL investigators this week. 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: This is kind of big because they're not waiting for 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the civil suit to take its course whatever that and 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the regular courts it's not a criminal case they can 84 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: investigate immediately, right, but the league is going to invest 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: is going to talk with him this week. Before that's 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: all said and done, Tyreek Hill looking at a suspension 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy. We also got 88 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: an article he was on the website and uh, one 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: of your staff, I believe Brownie wrote the five ways 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the Bills defense can make progress. This officer has made 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: progress this offseason, right, they did. We can get into 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: that and some of the Bills fans will be familiar 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: with and all of that. Yeah. The interesting thing is, 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: and this is the feedback I've gotten since that story 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: ran was there are still a healthy number of Bills 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: fans that are concerned about the Bills run defense. They 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: feel that that was an area of concern last year, 98 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and I know it was in the red zone in particular, 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: so I would agree with them on that standpoint. So 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: their concerned. You know, they see ten of eleven starters 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: coming back from a unit that struggle at times against 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: the run, and they're wondering, you know, with all of 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: the improvements on offenses, the run defense is going to 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: be any better. I think it is for a couple 105 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: of reasons. Number One, I think a healthy Trent Murphy 106 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: at left defensive end is going to make a world 107 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: of difference when it comes to set in the edge 108 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: over there. That's not to say that Jack Lawson did 109 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: a poor job, but for Trent Murphy it's one of 110 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: the strengths of his game. So I think that's a 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: plus having a healthy guy over there and Trent Murphy 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: starting playing those rundowns, you know, and set in the edge, 113 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: and then from a linebacker standpoint, you know, I think 114 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: that what you have there are guys that can cover 115 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: a lot of ground. I think Tremaine Edmonds is only 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: going to get better from where he was last year 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: when there were times where he was late making reads 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: in the first half of the season and got fooled 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: on plays and overpursued and all of that. So I 120 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: think that's an example of where they could be better also, 121 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: and the guys on the back end, I think the 122 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: other thing that hurt when Taryn Johnson you know, with 123 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: his bad shoulder. It didn't change the way he played, 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: but eventually they had to shut him down. And Raphael Bush, 125 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: although he did his best to play in that nickel role, 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I think was miscast just because they didn't have a 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: better option. Right, But I think that impacted the run 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: front because that nickel position in this Bill's scheme defensively 129 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: is huge when it comes to run support. It's almost 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: base personnel these days. The guy's acting like a linebacker 131 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: when he's on the set. You gotta have a guy 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: who can cover a slot receiver and stuff the run. 133 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: That's a hard guy to find in today's right. So 134 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I think those were some of the reasons why run 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: defense suffered, And you know, we can talk about that 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: along with some of the other ways that the Bills 137 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: made progress on defense too. So we're gonna talk about 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: that how the Bills made some progress defensively in this 139 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: lost offseason. Also one of the things you might have 140 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: heard about, and I'm not a bait, I am the 141 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: world's smallest baseball fan, and he's put it in those terms, right, 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I am not a baseball fan. But Mets manager Callaway 143 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and pitcher Vargas got fined for a confrontation they had 144 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: with the media, and I kind of did my best 145 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: to delve into it a day after the fact. Yeah, 146 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: big to do was raised because they had an altercation 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: with one of the beat writers for the Mets, and 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: then they came out and apologized without really apologizing, and 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: obviously somebody from the upper management heard the non apology 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: and said try again. Well, we'll have a lesson later 151 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: in the show. Steven ilogize. I liked your rehearsal of 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the apology. Now go out and apologize is basically what 153 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: came down from high So they did that. They went 154 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: back out and had a second which was which was yeah, pathetic. 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: So then also the US women's national team, Megan Rappano 156 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: said less and this Repino quote, Rapino, I'm sorry, I apologize. 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino had a big They're playing the US women's 158 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: national team is playing the home team France in the 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: World Cup, and it's coming up and it is gonna 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: be an incredible game. I'm I'm gonna set this aside 161 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: and want to make time to watch it. Just to 162 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: put this in perspective, Steve, go ahead, these two teams 163 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: playing each other are probably the two most complete teams 164 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: in the tournament. It's like back in the old days 165 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: when the poor AFC used to get knocked and they 166 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: used to say, oh, well, you know, Niners and Cowboys, 167 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: NFC title game is the real Super Bowl, blah blah blah. 168 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's kind of what you 169 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: have here. And it's a quarterfinal. And there's been a 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: lot of talk about France being the host nation and 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: the pressure on those women to win this game and 172 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: stay in the tournament, you know, as a host country. 173 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: They're concerned that if France does lose interest in the 174 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: tournament as a whole over there is going to drop 175 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: off the face of the earth. Because as much as 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: as much of the support as the US women have 177 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: had from the American outlaws in Europe, it has not 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: gained the same level of traction the women's game. No 179 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: it has not. And this is where France as a 180 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: nation wants to put on a good face all the 181 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: way through to the end of this thing, to continue 182 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: to uphold the women's tournament as something that is popular, 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: is mainstream, and and so there's a lot of pressure 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: on the French players to come through in this game, 185 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: stay in the tournament, keep the interest level high in 186 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: their hosts in their country. So there's a thought that 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: even though the US, which has had a ton of 188 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: support from the American Outlaws fan group you know, will 189 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: be there, that this will be the first time they 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: don't have more support than their opponent because it's the 191 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: home team. But who has more pressure? It might be 192 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: France being the host nation. Oh, no doubt. If the 193 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: gotta be feeling it, no question about. We got all 194 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: that to talk about. And speaking of women's soccer, and 195 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, you didn't even say yesterday he said 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: he had soccer practice on how that go? By the way, 197 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: is it a women's team that you coach. I coach 198 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: a girls team and a boys team? Did you have 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: both have practice last night? No? One, just one and 200 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: then the other ones tonight and then one plays Wednesday, 201 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: one plays Thursday. My wife loves that we have four 202 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: nights a week committed to Oh, I'm sure soccer. Yes, sure, 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: she gets Friday makes for the gets Friday. You're you're 204 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: still in the taxi mode, right, I mean you're like 205 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: driving around. My daughter's driving now, but we just ride 206 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: to practice, right, I mean you're the coaching. What she 207 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: canna do? Right? Why are you gonna take drive to practice? No, 208 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: she's pretty environmentally conscious. There, there's no way she'd have 209 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: two cars driving to people, I'm saying, does she drive? 210 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: I could let her, but I usually all my all 211 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: our gears, all our gears in my car, all my gears. Well, 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't mind, dad, I don't mind it. All the 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: gear is in my car though, So you don't mind 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: it a secret driving? Does she good driver? Yeah? I 215 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: think so. I mean this is her first she hasn't 216 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: been driving for more than a year. It's just less 217 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: than a year. But she's doing all right. I know. 218 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: It's a it's a big thing. I mean, we should 219 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: talk about it once in a while at some point, 220 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: if we get a chance. Because I had five children, 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: and they were all from the time they were obviously 222 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: infants till the time now when the youngest is twenty one, 223 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: so right, they're now, they're all I drove everywhere, everywhere. 224 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: My wife didn't drive, none of it. When the kids 225 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: got old, they didn't drive. So it's a thing. Right now. 226 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: It's to the point I've been driving for so many 227 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: years I am not comfortable in the passenger seat. I 228 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: went to Rochester. We went to Rochester last evening and 229 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't eaten yes, so I got a quick bite 230 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: to eat and I said, and she said, we'll all drive, ye, 231 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: So we did that. She got behind the wheel started driving. 232 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: It was a nightmare. And she's not a bad driver, 233 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: but she did. Why was it a nightmare? There? She's 234 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: not like even exiting our little village. I was like, 235 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: why are you going? No, you gotta go. You know, 236 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm always efficient, you know, I'm getting there. She could 237 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: not care less about that. She's just taking it. Shees, Oh, 238 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: we're going this, We're going out. There's a major turn 239 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: on the back road to Rochester. She goes blows right 240 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: by it and I'm like and I'm like, I'm just 241 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: like spitting out my pop. You know, what are you doing? Yeah? 242 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: And she's and she's like, no, I'm just I'm going 243 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: this way because it's it's a great drive. This one. 244 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I really struggle being a passenger. Okay, 245 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I rarely am the passenger, so I 246 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I can't speak to that yet. It 247 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: was funny though, because I was talking to a buddy 248 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: of mine who's got a lot younger kid like younger kids, 249 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: one car seat, one still in diapers, two others in 250 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: like elementary school, you know, seven eight years old, and 251 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: he's talking to me. He goes, oh, my gosh, he 252 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: goes your daughter's drive And I said yeah, and he said, boy, 253 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: he goes, is that tough? I said, actually, it's quite 254 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: liberating because I'm not driving her hither and yon, you know, 255 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: to this practice or to this training session or to 256 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: this internship or whatever. She's driving herself. And he goes, well, 257 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: help me understand. I said, okay, I said, when you're 258 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: first born got out of diapers, how liberating was that? 259 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: He goes, I know exactly what you're So I had 260 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: to put it in his perspective, in his term, so 261 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: he could understand how changes happened without even knowing it. 262 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: So we're I'm totally with you. When that kid gets 263 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: out of the car, when they get to that certain 264 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: height where they get out of the car seat, boom, 265 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: big change. When you can leave the house without grabbing 266 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: a diaper bag and a stroll and on all the 267 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: food snack snack, When you can just go just pick 268 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: up and go you know we did that. We laughed 269 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: at it because we started we got to the five kids. 270 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: When that last one gets up off the floor and 271 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: out of diapers and all that. When he gets out 272 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: of diapers, then just like wow, we don't have it 273 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: doesn't take us an extra twenty minutes to go. We 274 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: have so much free time. We're thinking, so let's get 275 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: a dog. You know, it's it's it's a thing you get. 276 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: It's like, wow, we got all kinds. It's so liberating. 277 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: You start to give this, you get this illusion that 278 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: your life is free and easy. So you start taking 279 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: on more stuff to do and now you're right back. 280 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. Well every time I travel. When 281 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I travel, you'd see families, you know, going to Disney 282 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: or going to the beach or wherever, and you'd see him, 283 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: like you see a family with three kids or four kids, 284 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: and you're looking there and you look at you just 285 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: get this glazed look over your eye, like going, are 286 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: you are you nuts? Three? Traveling with three kids? Are 287 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: you insane? And I think about it, going, oh my gosh, 288 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: we did it with five. It's crazy. It's like it's 289 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: like a band of gypsies going down, you know, walking 290 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: down them. Oh, and you're trying to keep track of them. 291 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: And we'd bun over this too. You on vacation, it's 292 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: exhausting for a father to take his family on day kid. Yeah, 293 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: and when you have an odd number of total people 294 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: like you would have seven, that makes it tough too 295 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: for seating for And I don't go off on this too, 296 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: match because I don't want to be like some mart 297 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: because I'm not. I'm just like regular dad. But you 298 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: going and tell dad's know this too. You go on 299 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: vacation with the wife and kids, and everybody's everybody else 300 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: is like the kids, it's fun and games. They're like 301 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: they're gone. They're like you're logistic, man, They're like they're 302 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: like dust in the wind. They're scattered right all over 303 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: if you're going into a beach or whatever, they're everywhere. 304 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: And your wife the same thing. She could not be 305 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: more relaxed. Finally, she's just you know, once you slop 306 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: sunscreen on all the kids, you're done right. Not me, 307 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: not the dad. The dad is not like that. I 308 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: feel like I gotta protect everybody in my little group, 309 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: no matter where they're gotta keep track of them, watching 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: over there in who you are? You there? I, where's 311 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: this one? Where's your brother? Where's your sister? Who's getting? 312 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Who's with the little one? Who's with him? Who's got? 313 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, who's getting? Where is he? Where'd he go? 314 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Does he go? Is he in the beach? Is he 315 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: in the Where is he? Is he floating in the ocean? Where? 316 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: Who got? Didn't she go when she went against somebody? 317 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: You're keeping track of all of them because man, somebody 318 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: like you know, you watch so many movies. Somebody's gonna 319 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: run off with one of your kids, or one of 320 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: your kids is gonna drown, or one of them is 321 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: gonna get eaten by a lion at the zoo, or 322 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: one of you know, get disappeared. Two of them are 323 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna wander off into the woods and fall off a 324 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: cliff and be gone for there. You're thinking that as 325 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: a dad, right, depending on what your destiny actually sound 326 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: more like a mom with that kind of thinking. Mom's 327 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: mom's got the sunglasses on the hat, reading a book. 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: They don't feel the same sense as my wife, think 329 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: my wife now I say women, my wife is more 330 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: of a nurturer. Yeah, she's more of a oh yeah, 331 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: go you know, go have fun. You know, it's an advent, adventures, explore, 332 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: empower our children. And as a dad, I'm all about 333 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: let's I want to make sure they're all, you know, 334 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: come out of this. I don't want to make an 335 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: unnecessary trip to the high right to a hospital in 336 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: another country well that too, you know, like a Caribbean 337 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: hospital or or you know, a south of the border 338 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: hospital or whatever it happens to be, you know, and 339 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: it's like, uh, I don't want to do it. So 340 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and so you're on edge. You can tell you're on edge. 341 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm like that the whole eight days, two weeks you're 342 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: on vacation, and it's like you get home, it's like, man, 343 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: I need a nap, You need a vacation from your vacation, 344 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and that it must be just me though, right because 345 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't see everything. Now. My wife is worst case 346 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: scenario thinker all the time. It's worst case scenario. It's 347 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: not a husband wife thing. It's one of the parents 348 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: is usually always thinking that way. And I guess that's 349 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: healthy because he needs somebody to reel the whole operation 350 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: back in, you know what I mean. They're like, yeah, 351 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go on a day. True, how about 352 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: you get up off that railing. Let's yeah, let's go, 353 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, get on the top railing over the Niagara 354 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: Falls so he could not the uneven bars. I mean, 355 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I had such a death grip on my kids when 356 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: we went to Niagara Fall. I just knew they were 357 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna go over the edge. I just knew it. Taking 358 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: quick trip to the gorge, my oldest was six weeks 359 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: old or something. We finally took my parents up to 360 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the falls, and I remember having him on a front pack. 361 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: He's six weeks old. The kid can't even turn his 362 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: head right. I've got a bear hug on it. I'm 363 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: like walking around with this bun with both arms around 364 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: and stand like four feet away from the railing. I 365 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: won't even look at the falls. Grand Canyon is even 366 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: worse because there is no railings. Did you take the 367 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: family there? I'm surprised you did, but had some things 368 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: that almost got physically sick when I thought about even 369 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: thought about ta. Have you ever been to the cliffs 370 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: of more in Irash? I have not. No. Oh they're 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: like five hundred foot cliffs straight down. Yeah, no railing, 372 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: no nothing, nothing. And the sign says we don't do 373 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: railings or safety measures here. We let nature take its course. 374 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: There's some irish humor for me, if that's you get 375 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: what you deserve. We saw people. We went down one 376 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: of those easier walking trails, you know, a trail they 377 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: have trailheads. They go down on the south rim in 378 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon. And so we just did this last 379 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: Grand degree spring twenty eighteen. So it wasn't that hot, 380 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: and so we're just kind of walking down and it's 381 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: still you gotta watch your step, you know, otherwise you're 382 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna slide a good couple hundred feet. Um. So we're 383 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: walking down and these people are taking pictures, like hanging 384 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: off things, standing off the trail, like one foot slip 385 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: and you are gone, yeah, and it's not pretty. My 386 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: wife is like, I can't even look at these people. 387 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: I can't even look at these people. I gotta keep walking. 388 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: I can't even look. I can't even look at these people. 389 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: And then and even my kids are going, what the 390 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: hell are they doing? Your kids are doing? What are 391 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: they doing? Kids? I mean, because even they knew this 392 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: isn't brave. This is this is where you cross the 393 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: line from brave to stupide. Not. And it's not just 394 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: that either you go out there at the wrong time 395 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: or later in the summer to the Grand cam We 396 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: had friends to do this. Listen, there's like different levels 397 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: of difficulty to go all the way to the bottom, 398 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: all the way up, and so you gotta we're talking 399 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: to desert. Well, yeah, you gotta bring water. Right, it's 400 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: like one hundred and ten in the sun all the time, 401 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and it goes higher than that and 402 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: you're walking and hiking. It's hard work. So you got 403 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: people going down there and they can't they't have enough 404 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: water or whatever to get back. Yeah. Right, so they're 405 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: like they get airlifted. Yeah, they get an airlifted because 406 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: they just ran out of People don't take it seriously, 407 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: nearly seriously enough. Yeah, and that's that's why, you know, 408 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: family vacations to me were well at that time of 409 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: the year for family vacation. So that was a good tangent. 410 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: It's staycations or where it's at, stay at home and 411 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: tell everybody you're out of town. Oh yeah, that's even better. Yeah. Yeah. 412 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown, we're here One Bills 413 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. We're talking about a lot 414 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: of stuff, and we got off on a tangent on 415 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: family vacations for a minute, But we're also talking about 416 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: undrafted players in the National Football League who are maybe 417 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: the greatest ones of all time, and which undrafted player 418 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: on the Bills roster will have the biggest impact in 419 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. We get all that, we're talking about anything 420 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: else you want to talk about as well? Uh, they'd start. 421 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: The start date to NFL training camps was released officially 422 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: yesterday and I was going down the list too, Brownie. 423 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: There's only like eight clubs that move away for training 424 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: camp these days, right, it keeps dwindling. Yeah, the list 425 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: keeps dwindling. And now the new thing this year is 426 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: barely any open practices. Yea, the Eagles only have one. 427 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: I believe the Jets only have four. So um, the 428 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: Bills only have what one? Two open practices? No, they've 429 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: got eight open practices, do they? Yeah? So, and that 430 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: number is down from last year, but it's still if 431 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: you can if you can pare it across the league 432 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: first being a team that goes away to training camp 433 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: and then number two having eight open practices, I would 434 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: bet the Bills are near the higher end of the 435 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: list in terms of access and fan you know, trying 436 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: to be in a different region than they would be, 437 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, the other eleven months of the year, right, 438 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, right in all these Yeah, like, well they're 439 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: all they all have practice right at their own stadiums 440 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: or in their own facilities. And I think the Carolina 441 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: Panthers are going to be the next team that does 442 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: that because Warford, Yeah, they're gonna be leaving Wafford College 443 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: for their own facility that they're building down there. So 444 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if it's going to 445 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: be right near the stadium, but they usually work out 446 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: of the stadium down there in Charlotte, and they've been 447 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: building their own practice facility, and once that facility is done, 448 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be not going to Wafford 449 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: anymore in Spartanburg, South Carolina, and they will be doing 450 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: their training camp every year there and whether that's open 451 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: or not is probably up for debate also, So it's 452 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: it's him, it might be another team that you that 453 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: you tick off the list next year at this time, 454 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: So training camp starting and that means the drafted, undrafted, 455 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: free agent, restricted free agents veterans. Everybody's shown up for 456 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: training camp, including the undrafted guys. And we were asking 457 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today which undrafted player in the Bills 458 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: roster will have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. You 459 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: can call in at eight oh three five fifty or 460 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: outside Buffalo you can call us at one eight eight 461 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We've already got some 462 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: feedback on this one because I think undrafted players kind 463 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: of strike a nerve with everybody, because everybody feels at 464 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: some point in their life where they they weren't invited 465 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: to the party, you know, getting undrafted, so everybody. I 466 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: think people like to pick favorites that nobody else picks, 467 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: and undrafted guys are a fertile ground for picking a 468 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: favorite guy that nobody else knows about. Yeah, I mean, no, 469 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I remember here there was 470 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: a stretch where at least one undrafted guy made the 471 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster for like a seven or eight 472 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: year stretch. I want to say, in the two thousands there, 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about Jabari Greer, Jason Peters, Rashad Baker, 474 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of undrafted guys that would 475 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: seemingly make the roster every year, and there were some 476 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: guys that made some pretty major contributions to some teams 477 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: over that span, whether you're talking about Jabari Greer who 478 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: eventually got a big money contract, went to New Orleans, 479 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, or George Wilson who wasn't undrafted 480 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: by the Bills but came here a year or two 481 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: after being in the league with Detroit and then switch 482 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: sides of the ball and made an impact here defensively. 483 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: Is a safety that is an athlete that can do 484 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: that and so smart guy as well, Right, So that's 485 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: exactly what he was. He was a really smart athletic 486 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: guy who you know, he found a place so there 487 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: And I remember reading this about a year or two ago, 488 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: and I wish I had saved it, but it said, 489 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, most NFL fans are unaware that more often 490 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: than not, when you run down the rosters in total 491 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, there are more undrafted players on rosters 492 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: than first round draft choices. I mean that blows my mind, 493 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: like just because the total number is higher the undrafted. 494 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: When you think about it, Steve every year a first 495 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: round draft pick, there's only thirty two of them, but 496 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: undrafteds could number two or three a year if you 497 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: keep him on the roster. Well, yeah, saying that, you're right, 498 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: the number is smaller to be again with. But it 499 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: sounds shocking, doesn't it. It sounds like all those first 500 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: rounders are out of the league, and that's not really 501 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: the case, right, Yeah, I guess there's just a finite 502 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: number of first rounders and an unlimited number of undrafted 503 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: But there's a couple of hundred guys drafted every year 504 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: and a couple not even a couple of hundred probably 505 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: that are not drafted that are in the league. And 506 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: those are the ones that have either had a chance 507 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: and weren't good enough or whatever. But whatever, which it's 508 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: interesting and we're gonna talk about it all day. The 509 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: tweet sheet Daily The tweet sheet says, brought to you 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems. The official movers are the Buffalo Bills. 511 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: Which undrafted player in the Bills roster will have the 512 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: biggest impact in two nineteen. The tweet sheet from Jack says, 513 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: tough one today. I want Robert Foster to take the 514 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: next step and turn into a superstar diamond in the rough. 515 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: While I think he still can. It's a lot to 516 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: ask in year two. Cole Beasley b's eleven, has the 517 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: experience and the NFL track record. If healthy, He's going 518 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to have a major role to play in the offense 519 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen and be Josh's favorite target. And that's 520 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: that's that's why this is a pretty good a pretty 521 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: good question, because there are you look at it and 522 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: think there's potential. There's on both sides of the coin. 523 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: There's potential and proven ability. Right. Potential sometimes is that 524 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: happy little carrot that you reach for and forget about 525 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: the thing you've got in hand. You know, Cole Beasley 526 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: is a really good player and has been a really 527 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: productive player and has you know, proven himself to be 528 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: a guy that's really tough to cover in the slot. 529 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: He's got a chance to be have a really good 530 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: year here in Buffalo. He does difference maker, he does, 531 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, but that is you're guessing, you're hoping hasn't 532 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: really been on the field with Josh yet. How long 533 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: does it take for those two to establish chemistry. I 534 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: don't think there's any debate that most of the throws 535 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: going to Cole Beasley are going to be high percentage 536 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: type throws. He's gonna be working the underneath underneath areas 537 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: as the slot receiver, So logic would say, yeah, he's 538 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna get targeted a lot because even if he's not 539 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the number one read in the route concept, they're gonna 540 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: be times where is just gonna have to check it 541 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: down to him. So that all speaks to him probably 542 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: being at or near the top in targets, which should 543 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: translate into making an awful lot of plays for this offense. 544 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: But that has that has to all materialize with his 545 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: time on the field, and you know, I don't think 546 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: it'll be a major issue for him to get up 547 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: to speed and camp. There's also an issue to this 548 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: about offense defense. How tough is it for an undrafted 549 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: gare for any guy to make an impact, certainly a 550 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: guy like Cole Beasley and Robert Foster, They're going to 551 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: depend a lot on Josh Allen and how he's playing, 552 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: which is also not so much for maybe you and me, 553 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: but for people outside that's a huge question mark, is 554 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: how Josh is gonna play, and Robert Foster and Cole 555 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: Beasley are solely dependent on that. Now, the other side 556 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: of the ball, Lorenzo Alexander, Levi Wallace not so much. 557 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: Their opportunities are going to come every snap depending on 558 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: where the ball's thrown or run to. Yeah, And not 559 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: only that, If we think about Lorenzo Alexander in his 560 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: first year in this system under Sean McDermot and Leslie Frasier, 561 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: he played off the ball a ton in twenty seventeen, 562 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: was not up on the line of scrimmage in pass 563 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: rushing situations, and the impact that he had in the 564 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: previous scheme proved to be far more influential than it 565 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: did in this scheme. And then in twenty eighteen they 566 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: made a greater effort in making him a bigger part 567 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: of the pass rush packages because two years removed from 568 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: that he had gone to the Pro Bowl with twelve 569 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. So by putting him up on 570 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: the line more last season, he made more of an impact. 571 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: So I think they'll keep that role relatively the same 572 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: for him. But those are other things to consider too. 573 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: When you're trying to pick and choose, you know which 574 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: undrafted you think makes the most impact eight or three 575 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: h five fifty To get out on the conversation you're 576 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: listening to Steve Tasker Chris Brown on One Bill's Live 577 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive, We'll be back. 578 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit more about which undrafted 579 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: player will have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. John Randall, 580 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famers coming on at two o'clock and 581 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: more so, stay with us. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 582 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. He tasked along with 583 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown on a Tuesday, a beautiful Tuesday in Orchard Park, 584 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: New York. The turf is going down in the stadium 585 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and Brownie and I are sitting here talking about undrafted 586 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: players in the National Football League as we're on the 587 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: cusp of getting ready to start training camp. Those guys 588 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: are all kind of at the still in the mix 589 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: for being those great big unknowns that nobody knows about. 590 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Some of them have been a veteran players who are 591 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: really good guys on the Bills, like Cole Beasley and 592 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, Robert Foster has got a year in, Levi 593 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: Wallace has got a year in. So some of these 594 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: guys are veteran players. You go down guys like Tye 595 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: and Secky, Jason Krum Tyree Jackson is a rookie, and 596 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: so is Duke Williams as an NFL rookie. So you 597 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: got some guys like that who have miles of potential, 598 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: but you know, it's a question markus is whether you're 599 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: even gonna make the team, let alone have a career 600 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: like some undrafted guys like John Randall. Who's gonna be 601 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: our guest who goes to the Hall of Fame as 602 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: an undrafted player? Right, So we'll take our listeners picks 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: at eight oh three, five fifty one, eight eight eight, 604 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty. So it doesn't necessarily have 605 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: to be one of these guys in the Twitter poll. 606 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: It could be one of those guys that Steve just 607 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: mentioned as well, because there's about seven or eight. So 608 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: it's time to ask you, I mean, what you know, 609 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: if we've our four choices are Robert Foster, Cole Beasley, 610 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander Levi wallass as to which undrafted player role 611 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: on the Bills roster will have the biggest impact in 612 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, what's your pick? Brownie minds? Robert Foster, okay, 613 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: and Tom why Well, it's a couple of things do 614 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: I I was I was a little bit on the 615 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: fence because I was thinking Cole Beasley because of the 616 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: reasons I was talking about in the last segment, you know, 617 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: likely to have the top target total, high percentage throws, 618 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: more chances to make plays. But I think if we're 619 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: talking about impact in twenty nineteen, I think Robert Foster 620 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: is going to be making the game changing plays. You know, 621 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Coleb's is gonna help keep you on the field. Robert 622 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Foster is going to be making a difference on the 623 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: scoreboard with big plays. And I roll in there the 624 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: fact that this is a guy that has built in 625 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: chemistry with Josh Allen. Those two worked together a ton 626 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: last year. And people are gonna maybe sneeze at his 627 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: stats from last year and say, whatever, you know, rookie, 628 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: because I wrote a story about him in mid January 629 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot com. He had twenty seven catches 630 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: for five hundred and forty one yards and three touchdowns 631 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: last year. Almost all of that production came in the 632 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: last seven games of the season. Yeah, okay, oh yeah, 633 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: so he was off the team for a minute. Led 634 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: the NFL and yards per catch twenty per catch. Last 635 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: time a Bill did that was Eric Moulds in ninety 636 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: eight when he went to the Pro Bowl. The next 637 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: four receivers on yards per catch in the NFL after 638 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Foster DeShawn Jackson, Josh Gordon, Mike Evans, and Dante Pettis, 639 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: who was also a rookie last year. That's a pretty 640 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: good group. Number One. He was the only NFL rookie 641 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: last year with one hundred yard receiving games in twenty eighteen, 642 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: putting him in a group with Juju Smith, Schuster, Mike Thomas, 643 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper as rookies with three one hundred yard 644 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: receiving games in their rookie season since twenty fifteen. I mean, 645 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: we're talking pretty exclusive company here and all. By the way, 646 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: he also led all rookies in receiving yards from week 647 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: ten to seventeen, the last seven games of the season 648 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: when he played. So this is a guy who was undrafted. 649 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: The other guys behind him among the rookies, all of 650 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: them right behind him on that stat list were drafted 651 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: in the first or second round. So for my money 652 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: in terms of impact from an undrafted player, Foster is 653 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: my number one guy for twenty nineteen, because I just 654 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: think he's going to take the cover off of this thing. 655 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: And now with upgrades at the receiver position, a better 656 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: offensive line, what we believe is a deeper running back corps. 657 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: You can't put all your full attention on Robert Foster. 658 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: You can't do it. So what do you play? Are 659 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you gonna play Cover two with two safeties deep and 660 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: roll those guys over the top and leave the under. 661 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody was staying up nights even 662 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: in the second half of last season, waiting for Robert 663 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Foster to beat him, you know, like if you're playing 664 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: the Jets or the Dolphins or the Patriots or any 665 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: of the teams that we played in the second half 666 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: of the year. I don't know that anybody who was saying, 667 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: all right, Robert Foster was the focal point of our defense. 668 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: I still think they were looking at Lashawn McCoy, at 669 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Josh too, and they were looking at Josh running and 670 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Clay and all whatever. But yeah, I get it, and 671 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: that and that's it brings up an interesting dynamic because 672 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: you think talk about Robert Foster in comparison to the 673 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: other offensive guy on this list, Cole Beasley, and you 674 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: mentioned it, let's spend it positive for both these guys. 675 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: Goes exactly how we think it's gonna go. Cole Beasley 676 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: comes out and has one hundred and ten catches for 677 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: a thousand years. Right, it's that slot. It's the greatest 678 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: slot receiver ever. Now, Robert Foster and he'll average what 679 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: maybe seven or eight catches a game, right kind of thing, 680 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: and average eleven yards of reception, right, exactly nine and 681 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: a half even, right. So, um, so that's Cole Beasley. 682 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: He has like maybe seven touchdowns, right, but he has 683 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: but but say out of his one hundred and ten catches, 684 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: seventy of them are for first downs, right, Okay, So 685 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: you take that production and then you stack it up 686 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: against like a guy like Robert Foster. Maybe he has 687 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: seventy catches or even for sixty yeah or sixty yeah, okay, 688 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: fifty five catches or something to say, say he has 689 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of the like doubles his production from last last 690 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: seven games last year or pro rated. So he has 691 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: like fifty five catches, sixty catches, and he has what 692 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: would it be over a thousand yards? Right? You have 693 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: twenty yards of pop right, right, Okay, so you're yeah, 694 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: you're talking about me, even if you're seventeen, you're you're 695 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: right there, all right. So so he has that, and 696 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: but his plays, like maybe on five or six games, 697 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: he makes the game changing play to win the game. 698 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: We've all seen it. We go down through a hundred 699 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: and fifty plays in an NFL game, three of them 700 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: are the difference. Yep, he makes one of those every 701 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: third game. I'll give you six games, every third game. 702 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. He's already done it. Six 703 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: straight games last year, you know, Week ten to seventeen, 704 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: six straight games at least one catch of twenty five 705 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: yards or more every game. Yeah, and I get it. 706 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: Twenty those are nice, kid, But I'm talking about you know, 707 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: the seven like the Jackson. But I think it speaks 708 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: to the big playability that I'm talking about. So how 709 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: does that? So, how does Cole Beasley's impact compare with 710 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: Robert Foster's And does yeah, does Cole Beasley's impact give 711 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: Foster the opportunity? You know, because they got three more 712 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: first downs on that drive because of Cole Beasley. And 713 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: then and then on the third first on that third 714 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: first down he gets they hit the forty five yard 715 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: TD in the back of the end zone, right, and 716 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: to be impact is better, Well, I mean that's hard 717 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: to that's it is hard question. And hey, if they 718 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: can compliment each other that it's a great dilemma. And 719 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of determining who's making a 720 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: bigger impact, I mean, we put that out that we're 721 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: spinning everything positive for both of these guys, and how 722 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: how big their impact could possibly be if they both 723 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: make the pot the impact that they're prototypically we've seen 724 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: them make, you know, then it's kind of what they're both. 725 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: They're both. Yeah, it's a great problem to have, but 726 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be. And one more thing 727 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the phones at eight fifty. Robert, 728 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: I think is also somewhat misconstrued as strictly a go 729 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: route guy. As we got to the end of the 730 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: season last year, the last three or four weeks, he 731 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: was not just running go routes. He's running curls. Yeah, 732 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: he's running comeback, the crossing curl, running hook right on 733 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: the goal line against Miami week seventeen. He caught that 734 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: and I asked Dave, I asked Brian Dable about him. 735 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: And remember Dabele had him for a year at Alabama also, 736 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: so he said he can run a variety of routes. 737 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: This is Dable talk talking about Foster. Obviously, running vertical 738 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: is a strength of his because of his speed. But 739 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: I think our staff did a good job with him 740 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: in terms of top of route technique, releases, playing against 741 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: type press. Those are all things you have to work 742 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: on as a young receiver coming into this league. And 743 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: then that was seconded by Zay Jones because I talked 744 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: to Za about Robert and he said in that Jacksonville game, 745 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: Robert's not only running go routes, but curls deep intermediate 746 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: routes where Rob's coming back to the football. Against Detroit, 747 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: he was running crossing routes. These are all games late 748 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: in the year last year, and that's the development he 749 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: was showing after basically playing in eight games last year. 750 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: He played half a season his rookie year. So coming 751 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: year two, knowing the offense and diversifying his game, I 752 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: mean I really think he could take him He could 753 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: really take off this year. Yep. So you can get 754 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: in on the conversation eight or three, five fifty, which 755 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: undrafted player on the Bills roster is going to have 756 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. We're gonna take a call. 757 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: It's a little early in the show, I know, to 758 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: take a call, but Dean and all, and you've been 759 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: holding for a little bit. Dean, thanks for calling the program. 760 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: Stephen Chris on One Bill's Live, what's what you got 761 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: for us? Yeah? I think Mitch Miller was going to 762 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: make a big, really big impact. Um, I believe is 763 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: he had center? Yeah, but he was he was the 764 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: second round draft choice. He wasn't undrafted. Yeah, Okay, I'll 765 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: have to go on Cole Beasley then, Yeah, why do 766 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: you think Cole Beasley rather than Robert Foster, because that's 767 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: the debate we've been having. Um. Maybe the speed in 768 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: the and the size that he can, uh he can 769 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: slot receiver and uh kind of like the um the 770 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: guy that plays on New England Patriots. Yeah, like cattleman. Yeah, 771 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: and thanks for the call. You're right, and I was not. 772 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: I get it, Um when you talked about often and 773 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how many we'll get to 774 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: the statistics and how people are looking at this other 775 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: than us as well. I want to see what the 776 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 1: statistics are. But people always gravitate toward the offensive. Guys 777 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: like Lorenzo Alexander's gonna be on the field for Justice 778 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: may snaps as any of these receivers are gonna be 779 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the field, and so as Levi 780 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: Wallace are right, theoretically, I think what fans are doing 781 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: here is they're trying to connect the dots and they 782 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: look at Cole Beasley and they say, okay, small slot receiver, 783 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, got good quicks for separation. And Brian Dables here, 784 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: he comes from the New England coaching tree. Their offensive 785 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: scheme is somewhat similar to what New England runs. Edelman 786 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: catches about ninety to one hundred passes a year in 787 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: New England. Beasley can do that here. He's going to 788 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: make the most impact. So I see those dot connecting 789 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: mind games working in the heads of our listeners here 790 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: and in our Twitter response, and so I get why 791 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: they're going that way. And really, you know, in some ways, 792 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: as you were just saying about Lorenzo and Levi, it 793 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: is a little unfair because it does kind of this 794 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of topic does gravitate to the offense because their 795 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: Their statistics are more easily measured. Their impact on a 796 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: game is more easily measured. I mean outside of sacks 797 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: and interceptions. I think a lot of fans, you know, 798 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: sometimes they they I don't want to say they struggle, 799 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: but they have a hard time quantifying impact if they 800 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: don't have a hardcore stat to go off of on 801 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. On the defensive side 802 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: of the ball, you've got to be willing to sit 803 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: there in a dark room and watch film and know 804 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: what you're looking at. Now, coaches do that and they're 805 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: on top of it and they get that, but for 806 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: the most part, yeah, I'm not. You know, you don't 807 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: do that. And in defensively, have Wallace real quick. I mean, 808 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy that is excellent when it comes to 809 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: breaking up passes. The next step he has to take 810 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: now is turning those into picks. And if he can 811 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: do that, the Bills might really have something there. And 812 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: that's really the step he's got to take. So which 813 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: undrafted player on the Buffalo Bills roster will have the 814 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: biggest impact in twenty nineteen? It responds seven percent of 815 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: you say it's Cole Beasley, thirty percent say it's going 816 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: to be Robert Foster, seventeen percent say Lorenzo Alexander, and 817 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: only six percent say Levi Wallace. If you're looking for 818 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: a precedent in any of these situations, Levi Wallace playing 819 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: opposite the number one corner in Tradavious White. You look 820 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: back decades and decades and you remember a guy named 821 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Mike Haynes who played opposite the side that of guys 822 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: now I just lost his name. Larry No, no, no, no, 823 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: Willie Brown, no no no. The other guy, the other 824 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: great Oakland corner, not Lester Hayes. Lester Hayes, Uh. Lester Hayes, 825 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: who went to the Pro Bowl, had had a season 826 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: where he had fourteen or fifteen interceptions in a year 827 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: and everybody couldn't figure it out. And one of the 828 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: reasons they say they finally figured it out was because 829 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: nobody could flow up Mike Haynes. And and they said 830 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: they kept throwing at Lester Hayes because Mike Haines was 831 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: shutting their guy down. So they so that was a 832 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: reason that less that Less Hayes actually got on the 833 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: radars because he kept throwing at him and he kept 834 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: picking him off. He was a really good corner as well. 835 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: In case you didn't know that it had also had 836 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: gorilla glue on it. Oh yeah, well that was legal 837 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: back then, so Levi Wallace could emerge as a guy 838 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: stick him. Yeah, it gets the benefit of the guy 839 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: on the other side of him playing well. Steve Tasker 840 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: and Chris Brown, We're on One Bill's Live, presented by 841 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: Clyde Health. We're gonna come back and talk more about 842 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: undrafted players. We've got John Randall coming on at two o'clock. 843 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This 844 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 845 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown here talking to you from One 846 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We've got this topic going today that's been 847 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 1: kind of interesting about which undrafted player on the Bills 848 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: roster is gonna have the biggest impact in two thousand 849 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: and nineteen. We're kind of getting carried away with it, 850 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: but we are getting a lot of feedback. Of the 851 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: top of the hour, we're gonna talk about the twenty 852 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: five best undrafted NFL players of all time think back, 853 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: and we've got some The list that we've got in 854 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: front of us has some of these guys back from 855 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: nineteen forty six. There's one one from sixty six, one 856 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: from another, one from forty six. It's nineteen sixty seven, 857 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. So there's some older guys in here that 858 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: some of our older listeners will maybe remember. There's a 859 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: couple of guys on here that I remember extremely well. 860 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: But let's take a call about the Buffalo bill who 861 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: was undrafted, Who's gonna make the biggest impact for the 862 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: team this year. Scott in Rochester, Scott, thanks for calling 863 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: the program. This is Chris and Steve. What's on your mind? Hey, Yeah, 864 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of touring in between the Beast League situation 865 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: and the Foster. I'm thinking as far as Foster with 866 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: the high hand coordination, I think that brings a lot 867 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: to the table for the short game, getting us the 868 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: first down, so we're gonna need and then seeing Foster 869 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: kind of open it up after we get that first 870 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: down for the big chunk play. I'm gonna have to 871 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: pick one. I'm gonna have to go with Beasley just 872 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: because I'm thinking what he brings to the table as 873 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: far as receptions and you know, just his overall diversity, 874 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: as far as his athleticism and whatnot. So that's my 875 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: input and I'll hang up and listen up. A good one, thanks, Scott. 876 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: I agree with And I think, you know, we haven't 877 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: really said I've really gone into the out on a 878 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: limb and said which one I think? And I'm gonna 879 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: have to agree with, Scott. I think it's gonna be 880 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley for this reason. You're right, Foster is the 881 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of player and even if listen, if he could 882 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: put together of an entire season like he did the 883 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: last seven games of last year, he's got a chance 884 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: to be a superstar. I mean, right, that's what we're 885 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, I mean he was unbelievable. I mean, 886 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to go this far yet. I want 887 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: to see more of him before I make this claim. 888 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: But he stays on this track. I mean, you could 889 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: potentially be talking about a number one receiver and right core. Okay, 890 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: so you got that. But here's the thing why I 891 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 1: think Beasley is going to have a bigger impact because 892 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: of the position he plays and because of the guy 893 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: that's throwing to him, Josh Allen. He's been his completion 894 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: percentage has not been what you wanted. People think that 895 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: he is inaccurate you and I think it's more about 896 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: his decision makings. And you talk about a guy like 897 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: Robert Foster. Listen, they dropped back and they just threw 898 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: it deep last year. Those are low percentage passes. Your 899 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: completion percentage is going to be hurt by that. They 900 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't have the players around him last year to allow 901 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: him to throw it underneath in a consistent basis. That 902 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: wasn't the way their offense was built. They didn't do 903 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: that last year because they didn't have a running game 904 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: and because the underneath the lanes were so clogged with 905 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: nine guys in the box stop and a running game 906 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: that they had, that was the only weapon the Bills 907 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: really had. Consistently trying to keep Josh Allen in the pocket, 908 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: trying to keep Lashawn McCoy in the inside, trying to 909 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: keep Chris Ivory hemmed in. You know, that's all the 910 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: defense has really thought about. So if you're going to 911 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: take those low percentage shots over the top, we'll give 912 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: you one of those a game, but you're not going 913 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: to hit ten of them that you try. I think 914 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley's presence and the fact that he's going to 915 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: be a proven commodity out there, the trust that he 916 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: could develop with Josh Allen, the comfort level he could 917 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: give with Josh Allen, and the opportunities they could get 918 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: from an offense that knows how to use him could 919 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: make the quarterback that much better. And I think that 920 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: his impact not only on the way he plays in 921 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: his own production, but the security blanket he could become 922 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: for a young quarterback like Josh Allen who's really trying 923 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: to take that step in the game. I think that 924 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: impact could be really, really huge. And while I get 925 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: all of that, and I could very easily argue that 926 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: point with you, I'll be Devil's advocate here just on 927 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: behalf of Foster and say, because of that underneath presence, 928 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: I think that's going to afford Foster more opportunities with 929 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: some more favorable matchup situations where he can make more 930 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: of those game changing type plays, which is what you want. 931 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: You want that kind of balance across your receiving corps, 932 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: and if Beasley can prove that on the underneath stuff, 933 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: I think it only opens up more opportunities for Robert 934 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: Foster deep and Josh Allen was a pretty damn good 935 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: quarterback last year off play action, and if the running 936 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: games better this year, because last year it went nowhere, 937 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: He's gonna be even a more effective deepall thrower off 938 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: play action if the run game is holding defense is honest. 939 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: All right, We've got Michael from Cheek to Wager. We'll 940 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: get to you after the break. You can get in 941 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: on the conversation as well. Eight three five fifty or 942 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty to tweet 943 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official 944 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: movers of the Buffalo Bills. We've got one more from 945 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: Born Divine. My pick, he says, is Zoe Alexander. His 946 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: leadership and now and how he brings it will trickle down. 947 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: You just watch so he's thinking, and I'll tell you 948 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: what I can get a whole different commands. It's a 949 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: whole different commodity. When you when your level of leadership, 950 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: your presence in the locker room, your presence on the 951 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: practice field, showing these guys how to do it, trickles 952 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: down and elevates the guys around you. That's really hard 953 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: hard to quantify, but it doesn't make it less valuable. 954 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: And I'll tip my hat to that tweet because you're 955 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen. I've seen guys and just the 956 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: fact that they're on your team makes you want to 957 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: be better and elevate your attitude. I think that could 958 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: happen in the Bills locker room. Yeah, And I mean 959 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: I think, especially with Kyle Williams now retired, Lorenzo Alexander 960 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: is the go to leader on that side of the ball. 961 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: You may have Tremaine Edmonds running this defense and being 962 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: a leader that way, but I think everybody knows who 963 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: the lead dog is when it comes to I've seen this, 964 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of other things in this league. 965 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: This is how we got to be coming out of 966 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: this game to get ready for the next one. Whatever 967 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: the piece of advice might be. I mean we're talking 968 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 1: about I mean, this is the Yoda of the Bill's roster, 969 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah? All right, Well, we got a long 970 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: way to go. We're gonna be here till three o'clock. 971 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health from One 972 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We're gonna be talking about the twenty five 973 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: best undrafted NFL players of all time time After the break, 974 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio Network, SCORINGSUCKT eight. 975 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: The Saber has released their two thousand, nineteen two twenty 976 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: season schedule. The season kicks off in Pittsburgh on Thursday, 977 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: October third, and Buffalo will host the Devils on Saturday, 978 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: October fifth for their home opener. Defenseman brooks Orpick announced 979 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: his retirement after fifteen NHL seasons this morning. Orpi was 980 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: raised in Amherst, New York, and had a total of 981 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four points in a thousand and 982 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: thirty five regular season games with the Pittsburgh Penguins and 983 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: the Washington Capitals. He is a two time Stanley Cup 984 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: champion and a two thousand, eight and nine season with 985 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: the Penguins and a twenty seventeen eighteen season with the Caps. 986 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: Forward William Carlson signed an eight year, forty seven point 987 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: two million dollar contract with the Golden Knights yesterday and 988 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: that it has an and Ridge average annual value of 989 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: five point nine million. Carlson had fifty six points in 990 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: eighty two regular season games this past season and five 991 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: points in seven Stanley Cup playoff games. The NFL reat 992 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: released the two nineteen training camp start dates. The Bills 993 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: will be at Saint John Fisher College in Rochester. Rookies 994 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: will report to camp on July twenty second, Veterans will 995 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: report on July twenty fourth, and the first practice is 996 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday, July twenty fifth. Chief's wide receiver Tyree Hill 997 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: is expected to meet with NFL investigators in Kansas City 998 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow regarding recent child abuse allegations. The Johnson County District 999 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: Attorney's office announced earlier this month that the criminal investigation 1000 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: is no longer active. Hill has been banned by the 1001 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs from team activities since April twenty sixth, when audio 1002 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: was released by KCTV five of Hill and his fiance 1003 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: discussing injuries suffered by their son. He remained subject to 1004 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: a suspension under the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy. The Bisons 1005 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: extended their win streaked to seven games with a ten 1006 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: six victory over the Pawtucket Red Sox last night. They 1007 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: faced the Passas against tonight in Pawtucket at seven o 1008 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: five pm. That is your sports up date. Welcome back 1009 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Health Steve Task, 1010 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown's On a Beautiful Day Here in 1011 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: Orchard Park. We're talking about guys who are undrafted in 1012 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: the National Football League, how good they could be, how 1013 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: good they have been in the past, and particularly which 1014 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: undrafted player on the Bills roster is gonna make the 1015 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: biggest impact this season. We got one guy who's been 1016 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: waiting for a little bit. On the phone, I'm gonna 1017 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 1: take this call from Michael in Cheek to Cheek Towaga. Mikey, 1018 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: you're on with Steven Chris on one Bills Live. What's 1019 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: on your mind? Mike end at the Crabapple. I just 1020 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: wanted to say how much I enjoyed the program, and 1021 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: mister Murphy, what I'm gonna say is, I'm an old 1022 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: man who's retired real quick. I've been around a long time. 1023 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:02,280 Speaker 1: If the team stays healthy, I got a surprise here Foster, 1024 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: but I think it will be Beasley, and I think 1025 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody's groom. Do you remember at the tight end for 1026 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 1: its just right, So no one really knew. I don't 1027 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: think that much about Grenkowski when they started out. He 1028 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: really Everybody talks about Brady and he's the best, he's 1029 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: the greatest. Whatever. Everybody's told their own opinion. But I 1030 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: feel helped that team tremendously, and that's what I want 1031 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: to say. I'd like to get your opinion, but I 1032 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: just want to say one other thing. I've been fairly 1033 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,720 Speaker 1: lucky over the last few years. I predict the NFL 1034 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: winners because I have nothing else to do with my time. 1035 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: I will not advertise where I play this game, but 1036 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 1: in the last three years, I've won first place once, 1037 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: second place once, and third place once. For no investment. 1038 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: I've got a nice rate of return. Right. I'd like 1039 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: to know what the Bills odds are because I think 1040 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: they're going to surprise this entire NFL team this year. Well, 1041 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: I know the over under in Vegas is six and 1042 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: a half for their win total, and I would be 1043 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: inclined to take the over, but I am not a 1044 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: betting man. I got two kids going to college soon, 1045 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 1: so that's just not happening. Putting down the old college 1046 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: fund there, Yeah, go ahead, Michael. What else you got, 1047 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 1: oh man? With all the you know, with my former investment, 1048 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: so everything is fine. I enjoyed the program, and that's all. 1049 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to your opinion. But they gotta keep 1050 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: team unity and we got to stay away from injuries. 1051 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: To me, that's the key because the NFL is so 1052 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: every team is so close. And one more thing team concept, character, skill, 1053 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: which I think we have and that's it. I'll wait there, 1054 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: listen to your I appreciate I appreciate it. So I'm 1055 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: trying to was he saying I'm taking Foster even though 1056 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: I can understand Beasley? Is that what he said or 1057 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: I think he said Croom didn't he wanted to go 1058 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: to He said he didn't want us to forget about 1059 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,959 Speaker 1: Krum is right, I get it, and he's and listen, 1060 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: Krum had a great offseason. He's one of the guys 1061 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 1: that was up from the top of the NFL or 1062 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill games, either offseason stuff that they do 1063 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: and if yeh the iron Man stuff. He was there, 1064 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: and he's a really good athlete and he's worked really 1065 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: hard at and I think the thing that and this 1066 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: speaks to the character that our caller Mike from Cheek 1067 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: Towagan just mentioned. Guys with a lot of character, a 1068 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 1: lot of intelligence, the kind of guys that Sean McDermott 1069 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean have been trying to bring in the 1070 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: You have the see guys like that have the ability 1071 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: to look at themselves in the mirror and look at 1072 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: their game, watch themselves on film, and say, you know what, 1073 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: I need to work on this, this and this, and 1074 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: they go out and do it. Other guys who aren't 1075 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: like that, they only work on what they already do 1076 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: well because it makes them feel good that they're successful 1077 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: doing what they do well. It doesn't make them better 1078 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: all around players. Jason Krum has worked really hard on 1079 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: the facets of his game. He's not very it wasn't 1080 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been very good at blocking. Yeah, and he struggled 1081 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: last year. You know, he wasn't one hundred percent effective, 1082 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: and I think he'd be the first to tell you that, Like, 1083 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: he was not one hundred percent effective in his blocking 1084 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: assignments last year. But man, I don't know if anybody. 1085 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody worked harder at it. And 1086 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: I thought that his blocking did improve as we moved 1087 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: into the second half of the season. And I think 1088 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: what we saw from him last year isn't encouraging or 1089 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 1: encouraging signs of things to come. And what I mean 1090 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: by that is it wasn't every week, but there were 1091 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: and again, much like Robert Foster in the second half 1092 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 1: of the season, because if you remember, Steve McDermot and 1093 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 1: his coaching staff determined at that point in time, we're 1094 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna put a lot more young guys on the field. 1095 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: We're going to see if we can rely on young 1096 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: players and see if we can help them mature developed 1097 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: faster by putting them in regular season, live game situations. 1098 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: Let's see him and Kroom was one of those guys. 1099 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: And it wasn't every week, but I would say every 1100 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: other game Kroom would have a splash play. He would 1101 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: flash and oh look at that, Look what he can do. 1102 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: And now the next step for him is how about 1103 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: you make a splash player two every week? You know, 1104 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: provided you're getting the right playing time. If Tyler Croft 1105 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: is back in the equation off the broken foot, that 1106 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: could compromise that, sure, But I think that what we 1107 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: have is a guy who, if he can take the 1108 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: next step, could be a bona fide contributor for this 1109 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: team in twenty nineteen. So not a bad guy to 1110 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: bring up. So which player will have the Which undrafted 1111 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: player will have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen on 1112 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 1: the Bill's roster. You can take your pick from the 1113 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: four that we provided the choices that we provided, or 1114 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: you can pick your own. Cole Beasley's got forty seven 1115 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 1: percent of your votes, Robert Foster has thirty one percent, 1116 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander has seventeen percent. Levi Wallace has five percent. Brownie, 1117 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: I want to bring this up to you, and this 1118 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: is kind of how we got onto this topic. The 1119 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: twenty five best undrafted NFL players of all time. Now, 1120 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: sometimes every list is a little bit prisoner at the 1121 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: moment because you don't want to go all the way 1122 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: back to nineteen thirty two every time you go to 1123 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: these lists, because nobody's alive, who saw the guy play? 1124 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: And it's kind of kind of esoteric trying to get 1125 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: to the meat of who really was good and who 1126 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: you can talk to that saw the guy play, or 1127 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: go back and look at films. But there are some 1128 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: guys on here who who do speak for themselves. Like 1129 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: you go up to running back. You remember the running 1130 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 1: back from in nineteen ninety seven from ended up playing 1131 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,439 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens and Priest Holmes 1132 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: a running back. He was a really good player, really 1133 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: productive player. Is career was cut a little short by 1134 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: hip injury. I remember, right, but still a guy who 1135 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: was among the league leaders in rushing for like a 1136 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: three to five year period. There really a dominant player 1137 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: for two teams that used him, and he came out 1138 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: of nowhere and lost his job to the starter to 1139 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: Jamal Lewis. Then signed with the Chiefs and then ran 1140 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: for four thousand, five hundred and ninety yards over the 1141 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: next three seasons with fifty six touchdowns. Wow, he was 1142 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: a point producer. Yeah, no question about it. And the 1143 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: guy even before him, who was twenty five on the list. 1144 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: I remember this guy vividly because they used to always 1145 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: talk about him being an undrafted player was Rod Smith, 1146 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: the receiver for the Broncos. I mean that guy was 1147 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: part of some good receiving corps there because it wasn't 1148 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 1: just him. I think he played at the same time 1149 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: as Shannon Sharp was there as the tight end and 1150 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: with Ed McCaffrey, so they had a good group. But man, 1151 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean there was a stretch there about three or 1152 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: four years where Rod Smith was the go to guy 1153 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: after Shannon Sharp hung him up. You know, Smith was 1154 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: Smith was the go to guy in that passing game, 1155 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: and for what he accomplished as an undrafted guy was 1156 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: remarkable for me. You go down to number twenty three 1157 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: on the on the lists, quarterback Tony Romo out of 1158 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois two thousand and three. They went, he didn't 1159 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: even he got to the NFL scouting combine because he 1160 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: was gonna go to throw to other prospects, right. Son 1161 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: of the sudden, he got the Sean Payton, head coach 1162 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: of the New Orleans Saints, was the quarterback coach of 1163 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He saw Romo throw and he goes, you 1164 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: know what, um, we saw this guy, and the Cowboys 1165 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: signed him, and all of a sudden he gets the 1166 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: starting spot in Z six and he's, you know, four 1167 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and a human highlight real Tony Romo. Not 1168 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot of playoff wins, but yeah, well that's a 1169 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: franchise thing, asn't. Well, right, that's true, but I agree 1170 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: with you. He yeah, he he made la lack some 1171 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: things in his game, but he coming from nowhere to 1172 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: play that position is huge. And of course the number 1173 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: twenty two is West Welker, now one of the here's 1174 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: the famous slot receiver of his right. But here's the 1175 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 1: thing that is the most egregious thing about Wes Welker. 1176 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: It's bad enough he didn't go d he went undrafted, okay, 1177 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: based on what he turned out to be. Dude got 1178 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: cut once and traded within his own division. Steve traded 1179 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 1: in his own division. Okay, the Chargers cut him. Marty 1180 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer was the coach out there at the time. He 1181 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: called it the greatest mistake of his career cutting Wes 1182 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welker know about that, um, and that's another another day. 1183 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: But uh, I love Marty. But but then he gets traded. 1184 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, two solid seasons in Miami as a punt 1185 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: returner and as a slot receiver, they trade him to 1186 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: New England for I want to say it was like 1187 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: a three and a seven. I mean it was. It 1188 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: was a pittance for for what he did for New 1189 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: England obviously, because in five of six seasons he caught 1190 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten passes or more. And that's a guy, 1191 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and that's a guy who might have still played a 1192 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: couple more years even in Denver, had the concussions not 1193 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: caught up with him. Because he had a lot of 1194 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: concussions in quick succession and had to you know, had 1195 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 1: to hang it up. Yeah, it's at once traded in 1196 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: his own division, Steve, what the hell is Miami thinking? 1197 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: It's a crazy world? Man? That's all you got for me? 1198 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Get it? You look at what who else did they 1199 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: have there? Who was the world beater at wide receiver 1200 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: from Miami when they tried West when he's with Miami 1201 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: early in his career, because I was doing the CBS 1202 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: thing and and I get he didn't pass the eye 1203 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: test when he looked at West. He was a guy 1204 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: when you get off the bus, everybody wants to look impressive. 1205 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: West wasn't impressive. I mean, you get off the bus 1206 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: and somebody's handing him. But you had two years of 1207 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: film on your team. I know, I don't get it. 1208 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: I know. So there you go. I mean zero to 1209 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, a guy who set the standard for that 1210 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: position for a decade and it still does. And number 1211 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: twenty one moving up, Antonio Gates tied in from Kent 1212 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 1: State power forward at Kent State wasn't a good size 1213 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: or to play guard or forward in the NBA, so 1214 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: he's tried out with the Chargers. They signed him right away, 1215 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: and nine hundred and fifty two receptions and sixteen years later, 1216 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: the guy's hat off came back to play another year. 1217 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Last year. Yeah, after Hunter Henry had the knee injury, 1218 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: came back to play, and then there's and good on 1219 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers for that one. Yeah as bad as cutting 1220 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: West well was they made good on that because sixteen 1221 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: years a tight end? Where did he go to like 1222 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 1: seven eight Pro Bowls or something? And it's interesting too, 1223 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: most of these these guys on this list are it's 1224 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: they're offensive players, because those are the guys that are easy. 1225 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Now there are some as you get closer to the top, 1226 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this guy, Frank Gatsky, who won 1227 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of championships with the Browns. Well in nineteen 1228 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: forty six. Hall of Fame. You can understand why. Now 1229 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know what I know about 1230 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Frank Gasky. And it's interesting that you mentioned him. I 1231 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: met him a number of times. You know why. My 1232 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 1: first game as a professional football player was the Hall 1233 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: of Fame game in Canton, Ohio. It was the year 1234 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Joe Namath, Roger stobob, O J. Simpson, and Frank Gatsky 1235 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: were they Hall of Fame. We're the Hall of Fame inducteam. 1236 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: So he went in the in the nineteen eighty five 1237 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: he went to the Hall of Fame. And that's why 1238 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: I know him. That's because he went in with that group. 1239 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: In that year and nineteen forty six he played for 1240 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns Hall of Fame career, the team won 1241 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: eight championships. He never missed a game in his twelfth season. 1242 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: So there you go. Now, I give it to the 1243 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,120 Speaker 1: big uglies up front every oncet in awhile. You got 1244 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: to do that. And that's also you got after him. 1245 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 1: He got Emmett Thomas, a guy who I grew up 1246 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: watching play with the Kansas City Chiefs. Great defensive back 1247 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: out of Bishop College. Number seventeen. Our guy London Fletcher 1248 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: made the list. John Carroll nineteen ninety eight, Saint Louis 1249 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Rams five ten middle linebacker in the National Football League 1250 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: who played sixteen seasons and started two hundred and fifteen 1251 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: consecutive games and over two thousand tackles in the National 1252 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Football League. Yeah, that's that's pretty good. Jeff Saturday, North Carolina, 1253 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, Baltimore Ravens. He started with and ended 1254 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: up of course, going to the Indianapolis Colts in nineteen 1255 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine. The next year and he became the Lynch 1256 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 1: pen for that offensive line that played in front of 1257 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for all those runs in the AFC. So 1258 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday on this list, and of course James Harrison 1259 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: number fifteen to go to Kent State. Two thousand and two, 1260 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: he came out, he was with he was with the Steelers, 1261 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: then he went to the Baltimore Ravens. Then he went 1262 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: back to the Steelers in two thousand and four, two 1263 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: years into his career, found his groove and went on 1264 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 1: to be a two time All Pro first team made 1265 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 1: one of the most memorable plays in Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, 1266 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. It was unbelievable. You know who's not 1267 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: on this list? Who should be on this list? Who 1268 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: he's not in the top twenty five. I don't see him? Who? 1269 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm just gonna make sure I didn't miss him. 1270 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Jason Peters. Yeah, Jason Peters should be on this list. 1271 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean he's still playing. Yeah, I mean, oh, five 1272 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: draft he goes, they goes undrafted in O five and 1273 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean he's still playing. Yeah. It was the fifteenth season. 1274 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 1: These guys are and the guy is a freak. I 1275 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: mean he came into the league as a tight end. 1276 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: They signed him as a tight end. They knew right 1277 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: away though, he's gonna move to to left tackle. H 1278 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: And if you ever watched this guy move and play, 1279 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: he ran a four four point five second forty nine. 1280 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was way faster than that. He ran 1281 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: a four nine five, did he It's either four nine 1282 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: five or four eighty five. I can't remember. So he 1283 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: was unbelievably for he was three five pounds. Yeah, yeah, 1284 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: he's huge, six four, three hundred five pounds. And then 1285 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: you see you watch these guys rush him at left 1286 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: tackle from the you know, defensive end spot, and they're 1287 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: throwing these moves at him, and these he looks like 1288 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: a five nine point guard playing defense. He could move 1289 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 1: side to side. They can't get around him. He gets 1290 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: in front of him wherever they go. He's so athletic 1291 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: at that size and that strength. Yeah, you're right, he is. 1292 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: He should absolutely be on this list. Okay, somewhere, I 1293 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: mean I don't know how high, but we'll put him 1294 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: in front of James Harrison right there at fourteen I say. 1295 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: I'd say that's probably somewhere in there between fourteen and 1296 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: sixteen is a good spot for him. Larry Little, who 1297 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: is a guard for Bethune Cookman in nineteen He came 1298 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: out of Bethune Cookman nineteen sixty seven for the Chargers. 1299 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: He's signed with the Charges. Traded to the Miami Dolphins 1300 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine, and he was a cornerstone for 1301 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: the Dolphins rushing attack. He was one of the guys 1302 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: that helped him go undefeated in seventy two. Retired in 1303 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and inducted in the Pro Football Hall of 1304 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Fame in ninety three. Larry Little, guard from the Miami Dolphins, 1305 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,920 Speaker 1: and of course the kicker with a guy on this list. 1306 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: The only guy I've seen on this list who's actually 1307 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 1: still play him is Adam Vinetary, kicker out of South 1308 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: Dakota State. Not drafted. New England pay a lot of 1309 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: kickers though that had consideration for this list, right, I mean, 1310 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: nobody's crafts those guys, right basically, But you know, you 1311 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 1: think about unless you're the gold standard, then yeah, he's 1312 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: mister clutch. He two of two of three Super Bowls 1313 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: for New England. He kicked the winning field goal. Um, yeah, 1314 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Adam Vinetarry, how can you say no? He's nineteen ninety 1315 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: six to the present here and then here at the 1316 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: last top twelve, eleven and ten. Bill Willis, defensive tackle 1317 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: from Ohio State nineteen forty six, goes to the Cleveland Browns. 1318 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Lou Groza, iconic kicker and attackle Ohio State goes to 1319 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Willie Wood, who was a quarterback 1320 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: at USC, didn't get drafted. So he wrote a letter 1321 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 1: to Vince Lombardi requested to try out, and he got there, 1322 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: found out, you know, Bart Starr was there. He wasn't 1323 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna beat Bart Star. He said, well, how about if 1324 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 1: I played defensive back? He plays defensive back, goes to 1325 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: five titles and goes to the Hall of Fame as 1326 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: a defensive back. Willie Wood, who was a quarterback out 1327 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: of SC Jim Langer guard out of South Dakota nineteen 1328 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 1: seventy played for the Browns. Willie Brown, cornerback out of Grambling, 1329 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,919 Speaker 1: goes to the Houston Oilers, but cut during training camp, 1330 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: then signed with the Broncos, made the AFL All Star 1331 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Team twice, then got traded to the Raiders in sixty seven. 1332 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: Of course, can I just say Hall of Fame? Who's 1333 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: trading caliber. I gotta say, the caliber of players that 1334 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: were traded back in the old days, it blows my mind. 1335 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Could you imagine people like people like this being traded 1336 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: nowadays in the NFL. They've been talking about it for 1337 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: a week and a half. If you traded somebody like 1338 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: like Willie Brown, Like what Willie Brown? They traded? This 1339 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: is the guy and Willie Brown, remember he's the guy. 1340 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 1: He intercepted the ball in the touchdowns eleven and he 1341 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: runs right toward the camera, you know, and uh right. 1342 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: He was a first NFL Film First Ballot Hall of Famer. 1343 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,519 Speaker 1: Dick Night train lane cornerback out of Scott's Bluff Junior 1344 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 1: College nineteen fifty two for the Rams. Played one year 1345 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: at junior college, but he played. He played four years 1346 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 1: in the military. Of course, once he got out, he 1347 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,680 Speaker 1: asked the Rams for a tryout. They signed him. Um, 1348 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: played four and I have a tryout? Yeah? Sure, Holy crap, 1349 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Look at this kid. He played. He had fourteen interceptions 1350 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two as a record that still stands 1351 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 1: to this day. Joe Perry fullback out of Compton Junior 1352 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: College in nineteen forty eight for the San Francisco yeah, 1353 01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: same with me. All right, then you got this guy 1354 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: named Kurt Warner. U was cut by the Packers stock 1355 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Shells before before signing with the Arena League and the 1356 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Iowa Barnstormers. We all know what happened to occurred in 1357 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. He had three great seasons in the 1358 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Arena League, signed with the Saint Louis Rams in ninety eight, 1359 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and of course then became three time MVP. Led two 1360 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: different franchises at the Super Bowl one two of them. 1361 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer and deservedly so. He's number 1362 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: four on the list of all time great undrafted players. 1363 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: You see the story of the next guy, you don't 1364 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: see this Elin Tunnel needing money and told you had 1365 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: to go to summer school to play his senior year 1366 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: at Iowa Tunnel. Instead hitchhike to New York to try 1367 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: out for the Giants. Are you kidding me? It went 1368 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 1: on to have a fourteen years career. Come on its 1369 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: nineteen forty eight as it defenses back in a punt returner. 1370 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Hitchhiking from Iowa to New York. Do you know how 1371 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: far that is? Yeah, I mean that's got to be 1372 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: What is that like sixteen hundred miles hitchhike fourteen year career. 1373 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Hitchhike too, retired as the an all time leader in 1374 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: interceptions and punt return yardage. The guy hitch hiking from 1375 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Iowa to New York. Come on, I gotta google it 1376 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: right now. Nineties he did, and he did in nineteen 1377 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: forty eight. That's what I'm saying about the vehicles he 1378 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,759 Speaker 1: had to get. He's in the back of a pickup. 1379 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: He's what I mean. Yeah, I'm not like I'm gonna 1380 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,320 Speaker 1: just do like an F one fifties getting into right, 1381 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do des Moine. For argument's sake. Here 1382 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 1: he hitchhike. How how far is it find that out? 1383 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Eleven hundred seven miles. That's from des Moines, which is 1384 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the state. I mean, I 1385 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: thought that would be fair. But if he was at 1386 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: the University of Iowa, he'd be in Iowa City, right right, 1387 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: So let's see if that's any longer. Oh my god, 1388 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: that's actually shorter nine So it's about a thousand miles 1389 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 1: he hitch hiked. Wow, all right, turn it into a 1390 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: fourteen year career. NFL's all time leader in interceptions, and 1391 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: decision returns. Good for him and good for the He 1392 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: gets to be number three, just for that, just for 1393 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,799 Speaker 1: the hitch hiking, all right. Number two. Marion Motley fullback, linebacker, 1394 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Nevada nineteen forties six played for the Cleveland Browns. My 1395 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 1: dad loved this guy. Joe Perry, well, I'm not sure 1396 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: who Joe Perry, even Joe Perry is. Well, he was 1397 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: the full bat He's the guy you mentioned three people ago, 1398 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Motley said. He called Marion Motley the greatest all around 1399 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: football player there ever was. After signing with the Browns 1400 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,920 Speaker 1: after World War Two, Motley had one of the most 1401 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: dominating five years of any running back. Listen to this. 1402 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 1: He averaged In nineteen forty six, he averaged eight point 1403 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: two yards a carry. My dad said he was built 1404 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 1: like an icebox. In nineteen fifty he averaged five point 1405 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: eight yards a carry. My dad was a baseball guy, 1406 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you know. He is a baseball guy through and through. 1407 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 1: He is a baseball junkie. He grew up in New 1408 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: York and it's a baseball city. But one of the 1409 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,240 Speaker 1: few teams that were on all the time were the Browns, 1410 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, and they were you know, playing the Giants 1411 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot, so he would see a lot of the Browns. 1412 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: He Marion Motley was. He said, that guy was so impressive. 1413 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: He was built like a refrigerator, you know, like an 1414 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: icebox square and just ran over people. Yea. And that 1415 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: was back when the fullback was the guy that got 1416 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,800 Speaker 1: the ball all the time. Cleveland won five straight championships. 1417 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Motley's body started to break down during the fifty one season, 1418 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,840 Speaker 1: but those five years earned him a spot in the 1419 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. His career average is his 1420 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: career average is five point seven yards a carry. And 1421 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 1: you want to steal a record among running backs, as 1422 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: you might imagine, and you want to talk about an 1423 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 1: embarrassment of riches, you know, after Marion Motley, Yeah, they 1424 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: get Jim Brown. Yeah. So it shows up for a 1425 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: nine season good lord. Yeah, I mean, that's a heck 1426 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 1: of a seventeen year run at that posit. Marion Motley 1427 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: was number two all on that list and the greatest 1428 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 1: undrafted players of all time, the greatest undrafted player in 1429 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. This chosen by this list 1430 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 1: is standout quarterback the University of Washington. Warren Moon certainly 1431 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: would have been drafted, but because of the air which 1432 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 1: he played, nobody wanted an African American guy to play quarterback. 1433 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 1: So he goes to the CFL, wins five great cups, 1434 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: kills it up there, rubs it in the face of 1435 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, comes back in nineteen eighty four and everybody 1436 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: in the league wanted Warren Moon to play for him. 1437 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: The Oilers hired his Canadian head football coach so that 1438 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 1: they would be sure to get him. They got him, 1439 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and he's off on a seventeen year I believe, seventeen 1440 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: year run as one of the great quarterbacks in the 1441 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: league for the entire time. That guy, and he was 1442 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: my teammate too, I'm honored to say. I mean, so 1443 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,640 Speaker 1: they call it the Pro Football Teammate I guess I 1444 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,439 Speaker 1: should say, well, either way, they call it the Pro 1445 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame because they do account for, you know, 1446 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 1: accomplishments in other leagues. I'm wondering if if you combine 1447 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: his CFL yardage with his NFL yardage, is he number 1448 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 1: one time problem? He's got to be there right in 1449 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 1: the criteria for getting into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 1450 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: the words United States are in there. Oh it is, Yeah, 1451 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 1: it is. They don't count the CFL stuff because I 1452 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: gotta think Fluid may be high on the list to 1453 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: count it. If he ever, you know, they may count it, 1454 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 1: but that in the in the by laws, it is 1455 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: not in this United States of America. Okay, I did 1456 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: not know that. That's I always wonder that because they said, 1457 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: they always say Pro Football Hall of Fame. You know, 1458 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 1: they don't call it the National Football League. They'll call 1459 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 1: it the United States Football Hall of Fame. But anyway, 1460 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Warren moontops list, I think it's a good list. I 1461 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 1: think it's he deserves to be on it. I'm happy 1462 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,759 Speaker 1: he's My only argument is no, Jason Peters, he should 1463 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: be on the Well, he's still playing, so all right. 1464 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,640 Speaker 1: More coming up One Bill's Life. John Randall, who one 1465 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: of the great undrafted players of his error, got to 1466 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame as well. He's going to join 1467 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 1: us at two o'clock. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown 1468 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: and One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health. Stay 1469 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: with us. We're coming to you from One Bill's Drive 1470 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One 1471 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Teach Ask along with Chris Brown from One 1472 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We're talking about the best undrafted players in 1473 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're also talking it's that time of year 1474 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: where we'll kind of delve into a lot of different 1475 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 1: subjects and it gives us a chance at this point 1476 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: in history, I guess, is that a good way to 1477 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: say it, at this point in history, at this point 1478 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: of the calendar, to turn our eyes towards other sports? 1479 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 1: You know? Sure? And let's do something happened the other 1480 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: day that caught my I am the world's worst baseball fan. 1481 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't like the sport. I don't follow it when 1482 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: you're fast enough for me. I don't like the way 1483 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: it works or the way it looks, all of that stuff. 1484 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm just not a fan. And that's not to say 1485 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,840 Speaker 1: that I don't think they are redeeming people in it. 1486 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,080 Speaker 1: But what happened to the Mets the other day kind 1487 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: of got a lot of people's attention. Mickey Callaway, the 1488 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Mets manager, and one of their pictures, Jason Vargas, got 1489 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: into an altercation with a reporter following a tough loss 1490 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: over the weekend. Right, So it's a daily news and 1491 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 1: you can imagine in New York I would think, I 1492 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,639 Speaker 1: guess not, but I thought that would kind of happen 1493 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 1: more often than I guess it does. Right, They had 1494 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: a bad loss. Their bullpen has been a mess all 1495 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: year long. So one of their starting pitchers is having 1496 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 1: a good outing callaway comes out, yanks him in the eighth, 1497 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: they bring in the reliever, and the reliever, yeah, he 1498 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 1: blows the save, and so he's asked, you know after 1499 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the game, totally valid question, did you think about leaving 1500 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the guy? You? Yeah, do you regret not leaving him 1501 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 1: in the way he was pitching? This? Then the other 1502 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 1: he answers those questions this, then it gets a little heated. 1503 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,840 Speaker 1: It's a little tense. It's nothing serious. So the reporter 1504 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 1: says to him, all right, Mick, we'll see you tomorrow. 1505 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: And he thought he was being sarcastic. So he turns 1506 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: around and he gets all hot and bothered. He makes 1507 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,000 Speaker 1: a run at him, he's stopped by players. One of 1508 01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the relief pitchers also makes a run at him. Didn't 1509 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,559 Speaker 1: even pitch in that game, So you got two guys 1510 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: getting held back. There's no physical contact, but they say, 1511 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: you know, we'll kick your right. It's a locker room. Yeah, yeah, 1512 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: So it got ugly and it was bad. Get to 1513 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 1: the get to the good part the next day. Well, 1514 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,600 Speaker 1: the next day the team issues a statement and it 1515 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 1: was a nice statement by an executive, right, he was 1516 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: really in and Callaway and no uncertain terms is told 1517 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: before the next night's game, you go apologize to the 1518 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 1: reporters and explain how wrong you were to act the 1519 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 1: way you did. And so I think we have sound 1520 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: of his initial attempts. This is add an apology Mickey 1521 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Callaway apologizing or not attempting to media. Here it is 1522 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Dellie Martin punched a reporter one time. You know, I mean, 1523 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 1: it's just part of part of this game, you know. Um, 1524 01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: it's something that you know, Hey, I'm a passionate guy 1525 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: about baseball, and I'm a tough competitor. And sometimes you'll 1526 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,800 Speaker 1: see it with the umpires. Sometimes you'll see what the 1527 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: players and and and the thing is is you guys 1528 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,600 Speaker 1: don't need to see it directed towards you guys. That 1529 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: that's you guys have a job to do. I understand that. 1530 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 1: I've always understood that. Um, and you guys don't need 1531 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: it directed at you. That's that's that's the number one 1532 01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: thing that I know what's missing there, Steve. He didn't say, hey, 1533 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I apologize exactly exactly. So now you've got 1534 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 1: a guy. Now. The only thing he did admit was 1535 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 1: when he gets upset or he's been out of shape, 1536 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,280 Speaker 1: or he's getting too competitive, or realizes he's crossed the line, 1537 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be doing that with media members. You know, 1538 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 1: he's got to handle that in his own way. So 1539 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 1: he said, it's okay with But you know, Billy Martin 1540 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 1: punched a guy one time, so we're punched a reporter. 1541 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 1: So so here's what happened. So they that that little 1542 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 1: interest court in exchange where he said, hey, I that's 1543 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: not something I should do. That's something that's about as 1544 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: far as he went, right, So then get it trickles 1545 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,480 Speaker 1: back up the line obviously, and the and the executives 1546 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 1: at the at the club are sitting there going and 1547 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 1: say they're looking like and they're saying, well, you can 1548 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: see it upstairs. How did it go? Yeah, they're having 1549 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: the same conversation you and I are. Well, he never reapologized, 1550 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: did he, And then of course the media he said, 1551 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I I says, well, he never really apologize on what 1552 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: that was all about social media is going I'm sorry, 1553 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: not sorry. So the guy up at the top of 1554 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 1: the food chain picks up the phone and it starts 1555 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 1: to trickle down about you want to give that another shot. Yeah, 1556 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 1: So ninety minutes, ninety minutes go by and part B 1557 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: comes out. Yeah, Callaway's got to go do the redo 1558 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 1: because the word sorry was never uttered from his lips. Right, 1559 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: So here's what he has the second time around. Just 1560 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: real quick. You know, I understand that I get some 1561 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 1: feedback that you know that I wanted you guys to 1562 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 1: know that in my meeting with Tim, I apologize for 1563 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: our reaction. It should I shouldn't. I regret it. I 1564 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,760 Speaker 1: regret the uh you know, the distractions. It's calls to 1565 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 1: the team and uh you know, like I said earlier, 1566 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,640 Speaker 1: it's something that we'll learn from. Um. So you know, 1567 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 1: it's something I'm not proud of. I'm not proud of 1568 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: the distraction. I'm not proud of what I what I 1569 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 1: did to Tim um you know, so you know for that, 1570 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: I'm definitely sorry. So there it is. It Gay squeaked 1571 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 1: it out at the end. We just got it in there. 1572 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 1: Like here's the thing, Steve, here's the thing. Okay, go ahead. 1573 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 1: As a manager of a major League Baseball team in 1574 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 1: a major market city like New York that is known 1575 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 1: to have a tough media, we're talking New York, Philadelphia, 1576 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,360 Speaker 1: It's a couple other cities, but it's really New York 1577 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,680 Speaker 1: and Philip. Boston's tough. Okay, it's tough because there's so 1578 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 1: many major outlets that are entrenched in your locker room, 1579 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: right and those people are all competing for headlines, and 1580 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 1: so they're gonna be asking you tough stuff every day, 1581 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 1: especially in baseball where you're playing a game almost every day, 1582 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 1: six games a week, you know, one hundred and sixty 1583 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: two games. You gotta have the thickest of skins. And 1584 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: if you can't, you're not going to be a manager 1585 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: for very long. So when you do mess up, whether 1586 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 1: you feel you should apologize or not, you have a 1587 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 1: bigger responsibility to uphold here on behalf of the organization. 1588 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: You're the face of the organization, the fancy you every 1589 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,160 Speaker 1: single day more than the players. Why is it just 1590 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: say you're sorry, even if you're not, just to give 1591 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 1: the proper public face on it. Why are guys in 1592 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 1: locker rooms, maybe in general, everybody not just guys, but 1593 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,560 Speaker 1: why is general everybody so unwilling to say, you know what, 1594 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 1: I was wrong. I messed that up. I apologize. I'll 1595 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: try not to do that again. I was a mistake, 1596 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,920 Speaker 1: and I won't do that again. I apologize only. Here's 1597 01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: my only guess based on what happened here. Okay, guy 1598 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 1: gets into a verbal confrontation, threatens to kick somebody's posterior, 1599 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,679 Speaker 1: what have you. The next day, the organization isn't happy 1600 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: with how he's handled the media, because the media often 1601 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 1: is the one that shapes the message. We got the 1602 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: media on the wrong side of you. You're in trouble. 1603 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 1: You're already the Mets in New York City, second fiddle 1604 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: to the Yankees forever. You know, you're not in yourself 1605 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 1: any favors. You've gotta fix it. Okay. The only thing 1606 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 1: that I can possibly think of here as to why 1607 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 1: it was so hard for him to say I'm sorry, 1608 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: is because he, in his mind viewed it as I'm 1609 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,879 Speaker 1: backing down, like I'm backing down from this. I challenged 1610 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 1: the guy, even though I know it was completely out 1611 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 1: of place. And if I say I'm sorry now, I'm 1612 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: backing down, And is the I mean, I'm wondering if 1613 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: there's too much ego there. It's either that or he's 1614 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 1: half cracked. That's dumb. It was the only two answers 1615 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 1: you gotta be in the greatest managers, coaches, teachers, executives, 1616 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: leaders that I've been around. The number one overwriting. There's 1617 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,520 Speaker 1: a couple of overwriting characteristics that I noticed. One is humility, 1618 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,440 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Second is preparedness, 1619 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,799 Speaker 1: and if you're not prepared in every situation to handle 1620 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the outside inquiries and the outside communication. And the third 1621 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 1: one would be a communicator. They're really good communicators. If 1622 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 1: you're not prepared to handle that kind of altercation or 1623 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 1: confrontation in a way that's graceful and calm and well 1624 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: thought out, you're because in that first respon, I'm compared 1625 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: to do the job. You can hear it in his 1626 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 1: first response, Steve, he's trying to explain it away because 1627 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 1: he's a tough competitor, because it's been you know, managers 1628 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 1: have done worse before Billy Martin punched a guy. He's 1629 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 1: trying to explain that it's okay to react that way. 1630 01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it is the furthest thing right from an apology. 1631 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: He's trying to justify it in his first apology attempt, right, 1632 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,479 Speaker 1: and then let me just say this, because I know 1633 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you're not a baseball guy. Callaway has come under a 1634 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: lot of fire already for a whole bunch of things, 1635 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: poor decision making, poor management of the team, this, that 1636 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: and the other. So I don't follow them. That's on 1637 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 1: a daily basis. Maybe this was something that was boiling 1638 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: up and reached to this point where he reacted in 1639 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 1: a way that was unbecoming of a major league baseball manager. 1640 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 1: But if you're in the wrong, just say you're in 1641 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,720 Speaker 1: the wrong and be done with it. You got to 1642 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,880 Speaker 1: do a do over on an apology. I mean, where 1643 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 1: are we are you? What are you seven? What are 1644 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: you doing? I mean, if you're it's almost the point 1645 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,920 Speaker 1: where as a punishment, the guy at the top of 1646 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the food change just say here's what here. If you 1647 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,560 Speaker 1: say anything other than what I'm going to write on 1648 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 1: this paper, you're gonna be fired. And just write it 1649 01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 1: and maybe even if he reads it. And that's probably 1650 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,760 Speaker 1: part of a larger problem because if you know that 1651 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Callaway is emotional, and if you know he can get 1652 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 1: bet out of shape with the wrong question. The PR 1653 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 1: director who's prepping him before these press conferences has to say, 1654 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 1: has to say this, Mickey, you know you're gonna get 1655 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: asked about yanking the starting pitcher. Let's think of a 1656 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,760 Speaker 1: good response as to why you made that decision and 1657 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 1: how you regretted that it didn't work. It's unfortunate that 1658 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 1: it didn't work, but we thought it was the best 1659 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 1: decision at that time. And if you get pressed on it, 1660 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,800 Speaker 1: just do your best to steer the question. Wow, people 1661 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: here have done it for years. Well, yeah, but this 1662 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: is football. I don't know if baseball has the same thing, 1663 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 1: same animals. They do it one hundred and sixty two 1664 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,040 Speaker 1: times a year after every game, they do it before games. 1665 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 1: They do it more than anybody else in professional sports, 1666 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: just based on the schedule. You've gotta have your guy 1667 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: ready every single day. Oh, I get it, I get it. 1668 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's it's a mishandling on 1669 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,479 Speaker 1: that end, and then you mishandle the reaction to the 1670 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 1: screw up. That's just one more It's just one. That's 1671 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 1: the mess. That's just one in a nutshell, it's just 1672 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,800 Speaker 1: one more piece of straw on the haystack of the 1673 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 1: reasons I don't like baseball. Okay, we're gonna take a break. 1674 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,439 Speaker 1: Chris Brown's Steve Tasker. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida 1675 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 1: held from One Bills Drive. We're gonna have John randalon 1676 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. 1677 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. We just had a 1678 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: conversation a minute ago, a rare baseball conversation on One 1679 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Bill's Live about the manager Mickey Calloway, who had to 1680 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 1: take two swings at getting an apology right. We also 1681 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 1: had one other thing that happened over the last few days, 1682 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,920 Speaker 1: the nine one one call. And I don't know if 1683 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 1: you heard about this. Levion Bell had had reported a 1684 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,960 Speaker 1: robbery at his home and there was and he called 1685 01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 1: the police. There was a half a million dollars in jewelry, 1686 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,680 Speaker 1: the money and cash that was stolen out of his 1687 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 1: house and money and some other things. And his nine 1688 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,920 Speaker 1: one one call to the police was finally released. We 1689 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 1: have that nine one one call, and this is not well. 1690 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,720 Speaker 1: He said there were two suspects, right that we're in 1691 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: his house when he left in the morning to go work. 1692 01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: Out right, don't don't spoil it. So here's here's the 1693 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,680 Speaker 1: nine one one call. I hope you can understand it. 1694 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: But this is this is the real thing. This isn't 1695 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a joke. This is the real nine one one called, 1696 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 1: go ahead. What was she wearing today? I mean when 1697 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: I she was in the bed, she was in the bed, 1698 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 1: not wearing clothes. She less, So I didn't see her 1699 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 1: when he come back. Okay, And the other one you 1700 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 1: said she looked more hispanic. Is that correct? She looked 1701 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,519 Speaker 1: more like like white or yes, okay, how old is she? 1702 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: She's twenty one? And what was she seeing Boston wearing today? 1703 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 1: The same way she was in the bed too. Wow, 1704 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,559 Speaker 1: they had clothes on. So the so Levion Bell dials 1705 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: nine one one his house got robbed by two girls 1706 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 1: when the last he saw him were in the bed naked. Yeah, 1707 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,799 Speaker 1: well he had to leave early in the wout. Usually 1708 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you can imagine the world we live in today when 1709 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 1: this came out and it hit Twitter. Some of the 1710 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 1: responses that came back about Levon Bell leaving the house 1711 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: and didn't getting robbed by the two naked women in 1712 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 1: social media has had fun with this. So here's the 1713 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,320 Speaker 1: first one, you're ready, Steve. I actually, this guy says, 1714 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 1: I actually feel sorry for him here. He is trying 1715 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 1: to be a committed, honest rel in an honest relationship 1716 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,640 Speaker 1: with these girls and they just use him like that. 1717 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:18,839 Speaker 1: My heart aches for Levion. This one says, hey, everybody, 1718 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,719 Speaker 1: you're burying the lead. Look at how dedicated Levion Bell 1719 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:28,840 Speaker 1: is to football. He left this situation to go work out. 1720 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,640 Speaker 1: And then this person said these comments are great. This 1721 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,600 Speaker 1: person says, who in the world after a night like 1722 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:45,760 Speaker 1: that is going to work out the next morning? Oh, man, 1723 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 1: you can't make this stuff up, and said test is 1724 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 1: an absolute mass. Yeah. And then this absolute mess. This 1725 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,720 Speaker 1: you need that third girl to keep an eye on 1726 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,760 Speaker 1: the other two is what you rookie mistake. We have 1727 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 1: a rim shot for that one. It's unbelievable. And then 1728 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 1: this is stuff in a more sane world we don't 1729 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: have to hear about. But man, this is this is 1730 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,600 Speaker 1: like on everybody. You three clicks of a button and 1731 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: you can listen to that. And then here's a good 1732 01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 1: shot at the Jets. Yeah, despite everything they stole, they 1733 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 1: left his pile of Jets tickets sitting on the dress. Wow, 1734 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: that's the coldest cut of all. They left the Jets. 1735 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,639 Speaker 1: Let the Jet season tickets. Oh, this is when social 1736 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:36,280 Speaker 1: media is d its best. PNNY tastic. Thank you le 1737 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,759 Speaker 1: Bell for continuing to make the Jets a dumpster fire. 1738 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,080 Speaker 1: It is gonna be a fun season. Listen to. Here's 1739 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 1: the thing. They for three months before they fired Macagnet, 1740 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,880 Speaker 1: the general manager, the Jets looked like they were on 1741 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 1: a trajectory. There's like, wow, you know what they've They've 1742 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: been doing it. They've been staying inside the lines of 1743 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they fired their general manager. They 1744 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 1: hired Adam Gase as their head coach, who had been 1745 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,760 Speaker 1: at his tenure in Miami had deteriorated year by year 1746 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,080 Speaker 1: in their ability to win games. Their roster had deteriorated. 1747 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: They tried to rebuild, couldn't get it done. They bring 1748 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,639 Speaker 1: him to New York. They hire Greg Williams and Joe Vitt, 1749 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 1: two guys who were absolutely mortal enemies after a bounty 1750 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 1: gate scandal on a third team in New Orleans four 1751 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,880 Speaker 1: years ago where they were all suspended for an entire 1752 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: year from the NFL. The coaches were suspended for an 1753 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 1: entire year in the NFL after they all turned on 1754 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: each other and started pointing the finger. Two words, Steve, 1755 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 1: two words powder keg. Oh I told I said it yesterday. 1756 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,879 Speaker 1: It's like storing a lighted up all the ingredients to dynamite, 1757 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 1: just storm right next to each other where nothing bad 1758 01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 1: could happen. I mean it is that is such a 1759 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 1: powder keg in New York with the meaning that it's 1760 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 1: the same media environment we were just talking about with 1761 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 1: the New York Mets where it blew up and making 1762 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Callaway's face this last couple of day. It is the 1763 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: exact same recipe it and now you got levon Bell 1764 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,200 Speaker 1: and all this issues that are you know, that are 1765 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 1: dropped into that mix as well. It's amazing. And for 1766 01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,759 Speaker 1: guys like I mean, we're sitting here talking about sports 1767 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,280 Speaker 1: all day, every day, and at this time of year, 1768 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 1: particularly in our sport, it's the deep in the offseason. 1769 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 1: The lights are kind of out for the only time 1770 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: they are in the entire calendar year for the next 1771 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,800 Speaker 1: three weeks, and all of this stuff goes on you 1772 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and you sit here and you scroll through all the 1773 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 1: topics we can scroll through. I'm like, I'm like, you know, no, 1774 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 1: that's off limits. Nope. That's awful. Well, the show I'm 1775 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,320 Speaker 1: going to talk and this Levyon Bell thing, I'm almost sad. 1776 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm always bummed we got that on the air today. Well, 1777 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean as entertaining as the scenario that was painted 1778 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,640 Speaker 1: by this nine one one call was how in the 1779 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 1: universe when you are someone of this stature, of this notoriety, 1780 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,719 Speaker 1: with this kind of wealth and that kind of stuff 1781 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 1: laying around, how how do you leave the house without 1782 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,560 Speaker 1: locking any of it up in a safe? I just 1783 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 1: can you help me with that? I don't get that? 1784 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 1: Do you are you doing that? I think Levi Jon's 1785 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,000 Speaker 1: got a pretty high opinion of himself. Well that doesn't 1786 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,760 Speaker 1: change the fact of who you're dealing with. You got 1787 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 1: nobody's here, and I mean he probably doesn't know their names. 1788 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,639 Speaker 1: Do you think he knows their names? He was lucky 1789 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 1: you could pass along their phone numbers to the police. 1790 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta move on. I gotta get off 1791 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,560 Speaker 1: this topic. Guess just too dangerous. I don't like it. 1792 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,400 Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here. We're going to come 1793 01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,639 Speaker 1: back at the top. Football is important to Levion, though 1794 01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,400 Speaker 1: he went to work out in the morning. Good on 1795 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 1: John Randall, one of the great Hall of Famer, one 1796 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 1: of the great all time undrafted players in NFL history. 1797 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on talk with this at the top 1798 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 1: of the hour. This is One Bill's Live, presented by 1799 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo 1800 01:32:47,640 --> 01:33:01,759 Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Hello Bills Radio Network Stories date, the Sabers 1801 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 1: released their two nineteen twenty season schedule. The season kicks 1802 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 1: off in Pittsburgh on Thursday, October third. Buffalo will host 1803 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,240 Speaker 1: the Devils on Saturday, October fifth for their home opener. 1804 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: The Saint Louis Blues announced they signed head coach Craig 1805 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,519 Speaker 1: Beruby to a three year contract. Bruby, who was originally 1806 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 1: named Ingraham head coach on November twenty eighteen, led the 1807 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,040 Speaker 1: Blues to the two nineteen Stanley Cup Championship and was 1808 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 1: a finalist for the two nineteen Jack Adams Award. Amherst 1809 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,799 Speaker 1: native brooks or Pick announced his retirement after fifteen NHL seasons. 1810 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,800 Speaker 1: This morning. Or Pick, a defenceman, had a total of 1811 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety four points and one thousand and 1812 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,800 Speaker 1: thirty five regular season games with the Pittsburgh Penguins and 1813 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,639 Speaker 1: Washington Capitals. He is a two times Stanley Cup champion, 1814 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,879 Speaker 1: one with each of those two teams. The NFL released 1815 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,839 Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen training camp start dates. The Buffalo 1816 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,679 Speaker 1: Bills will be at Saint John Fisher College in Rochester 1817 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,880 Speaker 1: and the rookies will report report to camp on July. 1818 01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 1: Veterans will report on the twenty fourth, and the first 1819 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,320 Speaker 1: practice is on Thursday, July twenty fifth. Chief's wide receiver 1820 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is expected to meet with the NFL with 1821 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 1: NFL investigators in Kansas City tomorrow regarding recent child abuse allegations. 1822 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,960 Speaker 1: The Johnson County District Attorney's office announced earlier this month 1823 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 1: that the criminal investigation is no longer active. Hill has 1824 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,080 Speaker 1: been banned by the Chiefs from team activity since April 1825 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,360 Speaker 1: twenty six, when audio was released by CACTV five of 1826 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,760 Speaker 1: Hill and his fiance discussing injuries suffered by their son. 1827 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 1: He remained subject to a suspension under the NFL's Personal 1828 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,679 Speaker 1: Conduct Policy and the Buffalo Bisons extended their winning streak 1829 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to seven games last night with a victory over the 1830 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Pawtucket Red Sox last night. They faced the paw Socks 1831 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 1: again tonight in Pawtucket at seven o five pm. That 1832 01:34:53,280 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 1: is your sports update. Where pleased to be joined right 1833 01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 1: now by one of the all time great NFL players. 1834 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 1: And he was a great player, true, but he was 1835 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,320 Speaker 1: also known for one of the things he also did 1836 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 1: extremely well, maybe better than anybody ever, and that was 1837 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,880 Speaker 1: talk trash. John Randall miked up by NFL films. And 1838 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,719 Speaker 1: here's what he sounded like when he played, Hey, Tarler, 1839 01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,200 Speaker 1: Hey comes on, man, but a hommy, what up? Hey? 1840 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Billy nilly, billy nilly like something just died, billy nilly regulators, 1841 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 1: moune up, we're coming. Oh I'm doing that down. I'm 1842 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna telling me it's on. Bring it on, ye what 1843 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,960 Speaker 1: ding now? Five? Coming up? Jay James Dot you cousin 1844 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 1: to j Walker? Not time, johny coming alive. It's Johnny tie, 1845 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:03,559 Speaker 1: It's time. John Randall, an undrafted player who came into 1846 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League, played with a Minnesota Vikings for 1847 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 1: fourteen years, had one hundred and thirty seven and a 1848 01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 1: half sacks in his career. A tremendously productive NFL player 1849 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,800 Speaker 1: and a Pro Football Hall of Famer. John's on the 1850 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: line with us John, Steve Tasker and Chris Brown here 1851 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,360 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks so much for coming on the program. Hey, 1852 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,599 Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me on and shout out 1853 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,200 Speaker 1: to Jeremy Kelly and the Buffalo Bill's Legis community. Yeah, 1854 01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,280 Speaker 1: there you go. Hey, thanks. I gotta tell you, Johnny, 1855 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,640 Speaker 1: you're a great player, no question about it. But we 1856 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: just had that sound on from NFL Films and if 1857 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:34,680 Speaker 1: you were I know you've given a lot of young 1858 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 1: players advice on how to play well everything. What advice 1859 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,479 Speaker 1: would you give to someone who wanted to be the 1860 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:43,800 Speaker 1: best trash talker? What's your best piece of advice. I 1861 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,920 Speaker 1: guess the best advice would be to go online and 1862 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 1: read upon you opponent, find out the best information that 1863 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 1: could possibly give you a she ingreeted to making him 1864 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,800 Speaker 1: kind of lose sight of what he's supposed to be 1865 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 1: doing out on the football field, because trash Haunton was 1866 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,960 Speaker 1: meant basically to get a guy off his game, and 1867 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. Yeah, you're right, and 1868 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot of fun to listen to 1869 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,760 Speaker 1: you because you never always had a little bit of 1870 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,240 Speaker 1: something something on that on those guys you talked to. 1871 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: John Rowney, he went undrafted out of Texas A and 1872 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 1: m Kingsville in nineteen ninety. What were your thoughts coming 1873 01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 1: out headed into the NFL for the first time. Oh 1874 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:31,920 Speaker 1: my god, Well, you know what, one of my first 1875 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 1: thought was, I believe that I belonged in the National 1876 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:40,599 Speaker 1: Football League, But at the time, teams just didn't. Teams 1877 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: doubted me because I was undersized. I wasn't the right height, 1878 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't like a six five or six six, 1879 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 1: and so teams that allowed him doubt about a guy 1880 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,559 Speaker 1: being six two being able to play in the National 1881 01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,680 Speaker 1: Football League because every want him to believe that you 1882 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,920 Speaker 1: had to be the biggest guys, a heavier guy to 1883 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,639 Speaker 1: play a game that which is limited to a select 1884 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 1: group of guys. John, how long were you able to 1885 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 1: use that as fuel? Was that fuel for all fourteen years? 1886 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,720 Speaker 1: Or you know, once you made a couple of Pro 1887 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 1: Bowls where you're like, all right, I'm established, I'm going 1888 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,400 Speaker 1: to come up with another way to kind of give 1889 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: myself some extra juice on a Sunday. No, No, I 1890 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,800 Speaker 1: used that for fourteen years. That was a lot of 1891 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,400 Speaker 1: time my motivations for training camp because you know, back then, 1892 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 1: training camp was so hard to me when by that 1893 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 1: first second week actually when guys was kind of feeling tired, 1894 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 1: feeling as if they had given up, And for me, 1895 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,760 Speaker 1: it's excuse me, excuse me to get going to show 1896 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,679 Speaker 1: people that even though I was under side, though small, 1897 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 1: I was not going to give up. I was going 1898 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,680 Speaker 1: to treat training camps as if there was my like 1899 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 1: like the team was thinking about getting rid of me. 1900 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,720 Speaker 1: So it motivated me every day. It motivated me in 1901 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: regular seasons, every day in practice to go out there 1902 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,960 Speaker 1: and to prove the people, even though I was from 1903 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,559 Speaker 1: a Division two school that I belonged after, even though 1904 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 1: there was guys from Ohio State, guys from Michigan or 1905 01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: UFC that, you know, give us a small school a 1906 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,439 Speaker 1: chance to show what we can do. Why is it 1907 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 1: possible for undersized guys to be successful in the NFL 1908 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,880 Speaker 1: like you were? But one of the reasons is because 1909 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,240 Speaker 1: the smaller guys compared, I mean from Watchington I was playing, 1910 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,280 Speaker 1: watching the film and even watching the game now, the 1911 01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 1: smaller guys are always kind of thinking that in the 1912 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,120 Speaker 1: back of their heads that they undersize that they don't 1913 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 1: belong and so to UNDERSTANDE guys, they're always playing as 1914 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 1: if it's the last place each they take that type 1915 01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,320 Speaker 1: of perspective to the game. And you watching the bigger guys, 1916 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they give it as much as the 1917 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,679 Speaker 1: smaller guys. So I think sometimes they have a tendency 1918 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 1: to take a playoff because they believe as well, I'm 1919 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm bigger than this guy, and I can just kind 1920 01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 1: of kind of go through the motions and not give 1921 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:10,320 Speaker 1: it that extra push into it as the underguy undersized guys. 1922 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, when you watch guy again Donald, you 1923 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,519 Speaker 1: see him out there playing, He's playing as if that 1924 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 1: first play is his last play. And I think that's 1925 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 1: the approach with the undersized guys. And another thing about 1926 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 1: the undersized guys, you know, they're just your smaller it's 1927 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,120 Speaker 1: easier for you to get on those bigger guys and 1928 01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:34,480 Speaker 1: to push him back, uh, push him back into the quarterbacks, 1929 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:38,760 Speaker 1: and to put off bigger guys. Sometimes the opportunity to 1930 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of overtake that or you know what, he's the 1931 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 1: undersized guy, he's not gonna have the power to overpower me. 1932 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 1: And and Jordan times the underside guy he does. Yeah. 1933 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,840 Speaker 1: And you know there's a guy here who was Buffalo's 1934 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 1: first round pick who has drawn comparisons to you do, 1935 01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: mainly to you know, having similar size as you do, 1936 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,639 Speaker 1: being an underside at least what he'll be a three 1937 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 1: technique here in Ed Oliver. I don't know how much 1938 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 1: you saw of Ed, but he was playing head up 1939 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,160 Speaker 1: on the center in college, so that it might be 1940 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 1: hard to make an assessment. But what do you if 1941 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,280 Speaker 1: you have seen Ed, what do you think his prospects are? 1942 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: Knowing he's kind of the same kind of body type 1943 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,679 Speaker 1: as you. One of the things I noticed about from 1944 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,479 Speaker 1: watching him was the way he uses his hands. And 1945 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 1: he uses his hand right off the bat, and what 1946 01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean by the as soon as he's coming out 1947 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,599 Speaker 1: of his hand, he's using his hands, and that's one 1948 01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,880 Speaker 1: of the main and the biggest things that I did. 1949 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:38,759 Speaker 1: But as soon as I came out of my spand 1950 01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,160 Speaker 1: I was getting my hands out there trying to get 1951 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 1: the offense, and I'm in the hands down and when 1952 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 1: he's playing against it and he's going over the center. 1953 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,920 Speaker 1: If anything, that's one of the things I didn't do 1954 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,680 Speaker 1: because I didn't like going down often that messing with 1955 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,080 Speaker 1: that center because you had a chars to have that 1956 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 1: guards almos on you. But if he's able to play 1957 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,479 Speaker 1: upon that center, which he does, and that just makes 1958 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,680 Speaker 1: his game even even better because he's a guy that 1959 01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 1: can jump down up on that nose and play the 1960 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 1: center for a couple of plays and hop back out, 1961 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: and that just gives this, say, his depth of playing. 1962 01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:13,160 Speaker 1: I think anything he probably played, he plays it better 1963 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,439 Speaker 1: than I do because I wasn't able to get up 1964 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,559 Speaker 1: on that center because we had a guy as Henry 1965 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 1: Thomas who was to me and playing next to him 1966 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,960 Speaker 1: was one of the best nose guards out there ever 1967 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,400 Speaker 1: plays the game. Sal was always virtue in the three technique, 1968 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,559 Speaker 1: but playing because of end. But when you can play 1969 01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,960 Speaker 1: up on that center, man, we always used to say, 1970 01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,519 Speaker 1: you can do that absolutely unique position because not many 1971 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,600 Speaker 1: guys are are capable playing over that center. Yeah, and 1972 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,080 Speaker 1: he was doing it at two eighty five. So now 1973 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 1: he moves into a four to three here in Buffalo, 1974 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 1: he'll probably be playing three technique for the most part. 1975 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 1: But can you just explain to the fans, John, how 1976 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:53,599 Speaker 1: much a penetrating three technique can disrupt things for an 1977 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,960 Speaker 1: offense everywhere from not letting the center pull because the 1978 01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 1: guy's knife and in there so fast. That just maybe 1979 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,360 Speaker 1: walk us through in Layman's terms, how a penetrating guy 1980 01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 1: like you were and how Bills fans hope ed can 1981 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,760 Speaker 1: be can disrupt an offense. Well, I'll tell you what 1982 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,599 Speaker 1: is what that three technique about penetrating that be gap. 1983 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,960 Speaker 1: He basically stopped the offering from running to one certain 1984 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,280 Speaker 1: side of the football field. That's one thing he does 1985 01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:23,680 Speaker 1: because that center camp pull, that guard camp pull, and 1986 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,559 Speaker 1: that takes away one half bid of that football field. 1987 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,760 Speaker 1: So the offense is limited into what they can run 1988 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,920 Speaker 1: on the football field. And when you have that penetrating 1989 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 1: three technique, that makes that guarding that tackle after tightening 1990 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,000 Speaker 1: spits down so that that decent event can come around 1991 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 1: that corner and very basically just fly around there and 1992 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:48,080 Speaker 1: get to that quarterback a lot easier. And another thing 1993 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,800 Speaker 1: that free technique does. When you when the guards are 1994 01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,840 Speaker 1: focusing on the free technique and the centers always looking 1995 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 1: backside for that three technique, that opens a lot of 1996 01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,479 Speaker 1: play for the linebackers because the line back can kind 1997 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,679 Speaker 1: of speak up there and basically just on a blitz 1998 01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 1: or just take off and hits his a gams. So 1999 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,280 Speaker 1: that's fun of the thing you've got. The three technique does, 2000 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 1: and I know from playing against so many guys I 2001 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 1: played a games and now I talked to a lot 2002 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,680 Speaker 1: of these guys who were because we've done playing. They 2003 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,719 Speaker 1: always used to tell me, you gave our sinners problem. 2004 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 1: It's really messed up with our offense. You drove our 2005 01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:28,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators crazy because it limits them on what they 2006 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:33,080 Speaker 1: can basically run on a Sunday or a Monday gaming. 2007 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: It's a real domino effect position for sure. Yeah, we're 2008 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 1: talking to John Randall, former NFL defensive tackle from Minnesota 2009 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,880 Speaker 1: and Seattle. Seven Pro Bowl appearances, a Pro Football Hall 2010 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,760 Speaker 1: and duct Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee in two 2011 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 1: and ten. And John, I want to ask you, as 2012 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,360 Speaker 1: a guy who played defensive line in the National Football League, 2013 01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,880 Speaker 1: how good is this current player that we're watching, Aaron 2014 01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 1: Donald for the Rams. He's unbelievable, you know. He Well 2015 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:00,680 Speaker 1: back in the day, back when I was plan no 2016 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:05,759 Speaker 1: one really thought of a defensive tackle as being an MVP. 2017 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 1: I mean, those words were facing not gonna happen. If anything. 2018 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 1: People were saying the defensive van or you know, a 2019 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 1: deefen van maybe, or or a linebacker. But no one 2020 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,519 Speaker 1: really looked at the three technique being a guy that 2021 01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,840 Speaker 1: basically is the most important and I think for Aaron 2022 01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,640 Speaker 1: Donald and you're watching some of the best type of 2023 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,880 Speaker 1: football that you can see, from a three technique to 2024 01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,599 Speaker 1: where you know the guys you know, you're saying people 2025 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,320 Speaker 1: things understide and he's not supposed to be out there. 2026 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's the guy that people are saying, you 2027 01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,800 Speaker 1: know what, he can only play maybe a one year 2028 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,720 Speaker 1: or two years or three at the most, but that 2029 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,240 Speaker 1: guy is not supposed to be doing what he's doing 2030 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 1: on the football hill. And for me watching him play, 2031 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,640 Speaker 1: it's just so funny and it's just so exciting to 2032 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 1: see someone out there doing that and having fun with 2033 01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,240 Speaker 1: it and changing the outcome other football games. Do you 2034 01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:03,560 Speaker 1: think he's couldn't be you know? Um thought of in 2035 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,639 Speaker 1: the same breath, the same conversation of great defensive players 2036 01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: in the past, like Bruce Smith and like Lawrence Taylor. Yes, 2037 01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,000 Speaker 1: I think he can't. And but one of the things 2038 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 1: that's going to be a fashion that is having I 2039 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,519 Speaker 1: call it almost like having a rope and having somebody 2040 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 1: else out there to kind of take some of the 2041 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:24,559 Speaker 1: attention away from him. I mean, if when you when 2042 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,519 Speaker 1: you think of these when you think of Bruce and 2043 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,400 Speaker 1: all the guys. You got to think of h Kenelius 2044 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 1: been it, you gotta think of Darren Talley, somebody to 2045 01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: kind of take some of the press off of him. 2046 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,040 Speaker 1: It's almost like the Michael Jordan's having the Scottie Pippen, 2047 01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:41,439 Speaker 1: because you're when you're focused on one guy, there's gotta 2048 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,479 Speaker 1: be somebody else who's all of a sudden can just 2049 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 1: ride and just take some of the press off of him. 2050 01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 1: And and for Aaron Donald, that's what he's gonna have, 2051 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,960 Speaker 1: I think, definitely gonna have, I mean having when he 2052 01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,120 Speaker 1: had Sue out there, it really made things open up 2053 01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,720 Speaker 1: for him because that center really couldn't focus on on 2054 01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,160 Speaker 1: Aaron because he had to think about and that took 2055 01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,120 Speaker 1: some of the folks away. And when you have that 2056 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 1: type of combination, and it's just unbelievable. Now, John, as 2057 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:10,719 Speaker 1: Steve mentioned, you know, you're one of the best trash 2058 01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,400 Speaker 1: talkers that probably ever was in the league and our 2059 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 1: producer and you know, kind of researching what you've been 2060 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:21,760 Speaker 1: up to, came across the Sleep Number commercial and can 2061 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,479 Speaker 1: you just first of all, I think it's fantastic, but 2062 01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,400 Speaker 1: can you can you just can you just lay out 2063 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 1: how it came about and how you kind of got 2064 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:34,240 Speaker 1: fell into that. Well, you know sak umber Bedge which 2065 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,640 Speaker 1: is located in Minnesota, and I was happening to be 2066 01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: working out with a friend of mine and who who 2067 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,760 Speaker 1: works for Sleep Number then and who was talking about it, 2068 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,559 Speaker 1: and I was saying that, you know, for me, sleep 2069 01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,000 Speaker 1: is one of the a central thing that I believe in. 2070 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,759 Speaker 1: I said, I believe it when I played football because 2071 01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,080 Speaker 1: for the Saturday night, I always wanted a good night's rest. 2072 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that was comfortable. And I said, 2073 01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:02,559 Speaker 1: that's the same thing and I go through. Now I go, uh, now, 2074 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,120 Speaker 1: I just wish I could get a better sleep. And 2075 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,080 Speaker 1: we got to talking about speaking Number bed and I 2076 01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,719 Speaker 1: went down and he was telling me all these different 2077 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 1: things that sleep number bears can do for you, and 2078 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,880 Speaker 1: I was kind of not not believing it. But once 2079 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,680 Speaker 1: I got down there, and me being the old country boy, 2080 01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,439 Speaker 1: had to get upon the bed and test it out. 2081 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,680 Speaker 1: And I think I virtually went to sleep upon his 2082 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,040 Speaker 1: bed and was like, Wow, this thing is really comfortable. 2083 01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,920 Speaker 1: And you know, my wife was was the other check 2084 01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 1: mark on that. She tried it out and she said 2085 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 1: you know what, I totally agree with. You got sleep 2086 01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:44,120 Speaker 1: number beds. It's so important because when you have that great, 2087 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,680 Speaker 1: great rest and you get up the next morning and 2088 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,840 Speaker 1: the princess when I have to go play golf against 2089 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,040 Speaker 1: the guy like Bruce Slip that having that offensial sleep 2090 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,560 Speaker 1: really helped spin golf. So I got it. So I 2091 01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 1: gotta follow that up, John, because I mean in the 2092 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,400 Speaker 1: commercial which some of our viewers just you know, you're 2093 01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,680 Speaker 1: putting my bad on all the cookies, you know, for 2094 01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 1: all the nasty things you said to people, if you 2095 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,519 Speaker 1: actually had if you actually had to send a box 2096 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,639 Speaker 1: or two of those out to somebody, can you think 2097 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,400 Speaker 1: of a player or two off the top of your 2098 01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,679 Speaker 1: head that probably deserves those cookies more than anybody else. 2099 01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,880 Speaker 1: Of course, that's first off. The bat would be Brett 2100 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,519 Speaker 1: far because you know I said a lot of nast 2101 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,280 Speaker 1: teams to that guy. I think that next guy would 2102 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,479 Speaker 1: be Frank Winners and Sender Center because I always said 2103 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things of Frank, because I used to 2104 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,840 Speaker 1: always wonder, Frank, you're always sliding towards me. I got 2105 01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,720 Speaker 1: I watched him on you and previous games, and you 2106 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:42,519 Speaker 1: would slide away from the from the three techniques, but 2107 01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 1: against me, you keep sliding towards me. And Frank used 2108 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,920 Speaker 1: to say something something Golfie off the bands to me, 2109 01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,280 Speaker 1: which is based like I'll be at your butt every place. 2110 01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:57,360 Speaker 1: So Frank and I had we had some great conversation 2111 01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,720 Speaker 1: somebody can't talk about. But so Frank would be the 2112 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,840 Speaker 1: next guy meet a system Cookies too, because you know 2113 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,080 Speaker 1: he was a He was a great opponent and I 2114 01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,400 Speaker 1: had fun playing against him. We're talking to John Randall, 2115 01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,640 Speaker 1: seventime pro bowler, Pro Football Hall of Famer, one of 2116 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: the all time great undrafted players who had such huge 2117 01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 1: success in the National Football League. And I want to 2118 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:17,920 Speaker 1: ask you one thing about your old team, the Vikings. 2119 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,719 Speaker 1: Do you think they can get back to the playoffs 2120 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:24,040 Speaker 1: this season? I definitely do. You know, Uh, I definitely 2121 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,840 Speaker 1: think we went to draft adding Smallsonson lineman, and I 2122 01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:33,800 Speaker 1: think um adding Qvat as a kind of an offensive coordinator, 2123 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,519 Speaker 1: and uh he's a basically my little research from Qvat. 2124 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, he's from College Stations, which is close to 2125 01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,400 Speaker 1: where I grew up at. And we've had a little 2126 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,479 Speaker 1: Who've had a conversation in the past couple of months, 2127 01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,000 Speaker 1: and uh, I've gotten to know him, and uh No, 2128 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a great addition for the organization. I 2129 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 1: think he's a guy who's gonna put his little who's 2130 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:59,560 Speaker 1: a little a stamp on the Vikings offense. And I 2131 01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,360 Speaker 1: think that something that we need for for Krik Cousins 2132 01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,040 Speaker 1: to have somebody out there who's going to help him 2133 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,679 Speaker 1: get that offor hit in and write rec John Randall, 2134 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 1: former defensive tackle from Minnesota Vikings in the Seattle Seahawks 2135 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,599 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl seven times in his career and he's also 2136 01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,519 Speaker 1: inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in two 2137 01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:19,439 Speaker 1: thy ten. John, thanks so much for being on. We 2138 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the program with Chris Brown Steve 2139 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,920 Speaker 1: Tasker here on One Bill's Live. Hey, thank you, John, 2140 01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 1: go fight there you go. John Randall, what a great guy. 2141 01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,960 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that he mentioned Bruce and he 2142 01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,400 Speaker 1: plays golf with Bruce Smith, a good friend of mine. 2143 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,680 Speaker 1: And of the guys that you know, these guys going 2144 01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:38,280 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, you know, Bruce, Jim Thurman 2145 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,840 Speaker 1: and all those guys and Andre. The guy they meet 2146 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,160 Speaker 1: and induced a bunch of stuff with is John Randall. 2147 01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 1: And they say he's one of the guys out at 2148 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,200 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame that would have really fit in 2149 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 1: the team that we are a group of guys personality wise, 2150 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,280 Speaker 1: I can see that he would have been a real 2151 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 1: asset to our team as oh my god, him and 2152 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,599 Speaker 1: Bruce on the same they would have been. It would 2153 01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,519 Speaker 1: have been a lot of well, yeah, he put another 2154 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,519 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in there. Yeah, okay, so yeah, it 2155 01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,040 Speaker 1: would have been good. But he would have fit in. 2156 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,080 Speaker 1: John Ronde would have fit in any place you put him. 2157 01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy was unbelievable. That's why it's about 2158 01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,920 Speaker 1: finding a home. Yes, really, no, you're right. And the 2159 01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,000 Speaker 1: thing too, though, was I was interested to hear from 2160 01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,760 Speaker 1: him because when you're initially doubted in the league, it's 2161 01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 1: easy to use that as fuel, you know. But I'm 2162 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm That's why I asked him the question I did. 2163 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,519 Speaker 1: After you made two or three Pro Bowls, you know 2164 01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, like, is that still fuel? Is that 2165 01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,599 Speaker 1: really fuel anymore? Like? You got to find something else? 2166 01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 1: And he's like, oh no, every single day for fourteen years, 2167 01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about not being drafted. It's true, you know, yeah, 2168 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 1: I and I get it, and this is a guy 2169 01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,320 Speaker 1: that well, you live with it and you and you 2170 01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of you see it everywhere you go and it 2171 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of sticks with you. But John Roynnell one of 2172 01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:51,800 Speaker 1: the truly great cookies to fars. Yeah, that's country boy 2173 01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,720 Speaker 1: to country boy there. Can you imagine the kind of 2174 01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,679 Speaker 1: talk that went out on the field between those two bumpkins. 2175 01:52:57,400 --> 01:53:00,960 Speaker 1: Good lord, that is awesome. Yeah, that's awesome, some overall jokes. 2176 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:04,320 Speaker 1: One of the all time great undrafted players in NFL history. 2177 01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 1: And we got a Twitter poll out there today which 2178 01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,599 Speaker 1: which Buffalo Bill on the roster will have the biggest 2179 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 1: impact in two nineteen? Which undrafted player on the Bills 2180 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 1: roster will have the biggest impact in twenty nineteen. We've 2181 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,400 Speaker 1: got Zack on the line from Rochester. I'll tell you what. 2182 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,160 Speaker 1: I'll try and fit Zach in right here. He's been 2183 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,280 Speaker 1: on the line for a little bit. Zach. Thanks for 2184 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:26,960 Speaker 1: hanging on, Zach. What's on your mind? Thanks for joining 2185 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,559 Speaker 1: us on One Bill's Live. What do you got? Well? 2186 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:33,360 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you a question about John Randall, 2187 01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 1: but since he's there, I'll answer this. I still think 2188 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,240 Speaker 1: Robert Foster is going to be the most important, biggest 2189 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,800 Speaker 1: impact for the simple fact is there didn't get just 2190 01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of wiggle room. They get him open 2191 01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,160 Speaker 1: because he's so fast, and you open up the offense 2192 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: like that, he can score more towns and then it 2193 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,880 Speaker 1: means like they got to cover him. And John Brown, 2194 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,679 Speaker 1: the kid that they just got from Baltimore, he is great. 2195 01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,759 Speaker 1: I said it was great Arizona. I think they're both fast. 2196 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,800 Speaker 1: So if they can get that um deep pass offense open, 2197 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be better for the whole offense. I agree 2198 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,880 Speaker 1: with you, Zach, Thanks for the call. He's right. I mean, 2199 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,920 Speaker 1: the Bill's one thing that they have done. They got 2200 01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 1: some fast guys. They got they upgraded the speed at 2201 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:17,240 Speaker 1: that position in a big way. There are options everywhere 2202 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,320 Speaker 1: on the field. Now, Yeah, you know you've got Beasley underneath. 2203 01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:22,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's still up in the air about tight 2204 01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:25,760 Speaker 1: end because Croft's foot injury makes it a little bit 2205 01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,320 Speaker 1: of a question mark there. But Zay Jones has proven 2206 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,360 Speaker 1: he can be an underneath receiver because he did that 2207 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,480 Speaker 1: last year. So you have Beasley and Jones underneath, and 2208 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,280 Speaker 1: you got Brown and Foster down the field. You don't 2209 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,520 Speaker 1: have enough defenders to cover all of that. You know, 2210 01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,800 Speaker 1: you can't just sit and cover two all day, Beasley 2211 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 1: and Jones will each all live underneath. And then you 2212 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,720 Speaker 1: want to play single high against John Brown and Robert Foster. Yeah, 2213 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not signing up for that. 2214 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,120 Speaker 1: Are you That's I'm not doing it? Sounds great, So 2215 01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 1: there's that way. Yeah. The tweet sheet brought to you 2216 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,760 Speaker 1: by Core Good Moving Systems, the official movers of the 2217 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We've got this from Nick. If Beasley can 2218 01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:06,360 Speaker 1: stay healthy and Josh can get or stay accurate on 2219 01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:09,320 Speaker 1: the short, underneath or cross routes, Beasley will be a 2220 01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,160 Speaker 1: huge help as a safety valve for Josh Allen. Added 2221 01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 1: to the revamped offensive line for protection and a run 2222 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:18,040 Speaker 1: game with the deep threats of Foster and Brown, This, 2223 01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,200 Speaker 1: oh can be good. And that's yeah, that's the kind 2224 01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:24,080 Speaker 1: of scenario that it's easy to envision when you see 2225 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,160 Speaker 1: all these new and shiny pieces to the puzzle that 2226 01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,720 Speaker 1: have been added this offseason. Now you can bet too 2227 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,760 Speaker 1: that you know, like we saw in mini camp, there's 2228 01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,640 Speaker 1: gonna be this guy, that guy that's going to be 2229 01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,000 Speaker 1: in this week out next week a nick or a 2230 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,240 Speaker 1: cut here, it's gonna you know, thin the roster with 2231 01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 1: injuries and guys coming back, and what the exact mixes, 2232 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:44,560 Speaker 1: what the game plan is going to be week to week, 2233 01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,920 Speaker 1: all remains to be seen. How productive these guys are 2234 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:48,840 Speaker 1: going to be. Maybe one or two of these guys 2235 01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:53,520 Speaker 1: don't click with Josh Allen, whatever, anything can happen. But 2236 01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:55,680 Speaker 1: at first glance, when you think of what they've been 2237 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,280 Speaker 1: doing this offseason, it's very easy to see a scenario 2238 01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,920 Speaker 1: over this offense could be way way better than a 2239 01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:03,880 Speaker 1: right a year ago. And I understand why so many 2240 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,360 Speaker 1: people are picking Beasley. There's a bigger body of work 2241 01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,760 Speaker 1: there with his career and what he has been able 2242 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:12,280 Speaker 1: to do for that Dallas offense for so many years, 2243 01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:15,120 Speaker 1: whether it's being the third down chain mover or working 2244 01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 1: underneath and being a checkdown option for Dak Prescott. I 2245 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,960 Speaker 1: think a lot of people say, well, he's gonna come 2246 01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,520 Speaker 1: here and be that for Josh, you know, and knowing 2247 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 1: the number of high percentage throws that are going to 2248 01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 1: be delivered to him underneath, you know, shorter throws, higher 2249 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,720 Speaker 1: percentage for catches. I get why they're saying all that, 2250 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 1: but I just think all of these added weapons are 2251 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,480 Speaker 1: going to make Robert Foster a more dangerous piece in 2252 01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,680 Speaker 1: this offense, and I see him making those difference making plays, 2253 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,520 Speaker 1: which is why I picked him to be the undrafted 2254 01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,320 Speaker 1: guy on this roster that's going to make the biggest 2255 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,600 Speaker 1: impact in our fall. We're going to take a break. 2256 01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 1: If you want to get on the conversation. There's still 2257 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:51,160 Speaker 1: time to do that. Eight to three oh five fifty 2258 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,880 Speaker 1: or one eight fifty two five fifty. At the bottom 2259 01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:55,160 Speaker 1: of the hour, we're gonna have what have we learn 2260 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 1: presented by an advanced alarm and also NFL true false, 2261 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,440 Speaker 1: so that come back and join us after the break, 2262 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. This is One Bills Live 2263 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,680 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 2264 01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live Sea Tasker along with 2265 01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:23,120 Speaker 1: Chris Brown here on a Tuesday, beautiful Tuesday. As we're 2266 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:24,720 Speaker 1: sitting in the break, you know, we always kind of 2267 01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,320 Speaker 1: keep track of what the pulse is and due to 2268 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,400 Speaker 1: the age we live in, the technology allows us to 2269 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,760 Speaker 1: stay on top of anything that's released moment by moment. 2270 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:35,879 Speaker 1: This just came out from the Cincinnati Bengals. Shoulder surgery 2271 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:40,800 Speaker 1: likely sidelines Jonah Williams for the entire season. Jonah Williams, 2272 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,760 Speaker 1: that top draft pick offensive lineman that a lot of 2273 01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,680 Speaker 1: Bills fans coveted, is not going to play at all 2274 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,600 Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals this season. It looks like because 2275 01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,720 Speaker 1: of a shoulder injury that he suffered. I'm just gonna 2276 01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,880 Speaker 1: say this, and I don't have numbers to prove this. 2277 01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,360 Speaker 1: It's just my perception based on the history that we've seen. 2278 01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's pretty common knowledge that Nick Saban 2279 01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:06,360 Speaker 1: practices his players hard, a lot of padded practices, a 2280 01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,760 Speaker 1: lot of contact practices. This is a fifth year player. 2281 01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 1: These guys get worn down. Man, These Alabama players get 2282 01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 1: worn down, especially the ones that play a lot, you 2283 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, that's it's an interesting take. 2284 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 1: And maybe it just seems like a lot of these 2285 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,120 Speaker 1: guys get beat up and their careers don't last as long, 2286 01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 1: like they last six to eight years instead of eight 2287 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,360 Speaker 1: to ten years, you know what I mean? Maybe maybe, 2288 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 1: but this certainly and but I don't know. I mean this, 2289 01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,640 Speaker 1: if it's an injury, I don't know that I can 2290 01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,240 Speaker 1: chalk it up to things that he did eighteen months ago, 2291 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 1: if something happened when he was trained, But well, I 2292 01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know. That's just it. It's unclear. But here's the thing. 2293 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:47,520 Speaker 1: If it was something that he's dragging around with him, 2294 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:50,400 Speaker 1: their medical people should have known. They would he would 2295 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,360 Speaker 1: have dropped down the he would have dropped down the 2296 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,440 Speaker 1: draft list if he'd had a bad shot. You know, 2297 01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,840 Speaker 1: you know who's supposed to start now in his place 2298 01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:01,560 Speaker 1: if he can't play this year? No Core Glenn there well, 2299 01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 1: left tackle, Jona William. Yeah, you're right, Corty Glenn was 2300 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:09,640 Speaker 1: getting moved down to backup because they signed Bobby Hart 2301 01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,320 Speaker 1: to play right tackle from San Francis. See, they move 2302 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 1: Corty Glenn over one spot to left guard, but the 2303 01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, that puts Glenn right back out at left tackle. Yeah, 2304 01:59:18,720 --> 01:59:21,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to play there. And Christian Westerman, who 2305 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,879 Speaker 1: has two NFL starts in his three seasons with the Bengals, 2306 01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,760 Speaker 1: um will take left guard over for Corty Glenn, so that, 2307 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's already shuffling. Yeah. And it's 2308 01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,880 Speaker 1: interesting because we've talked a lot about you know, this 2309 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,640 Speaker 1: new facility and I've said it and I've used this 2310 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:41,000 Speaker 1: word before. It's a paradigm shift here in this building 2311 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:43,920 Speaker 1: that I have not seen take place in every sea. 2312 01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:45,600 Speaker 1: You want to talk about a change, and I think 2313 01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:47,600 Speaker 1: a change where the Bills are actually at the forefront. 2314 01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,240 Speaker 1: It's in the way they treat their players as injured 2315 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:55,040 Speaker 1: or possibly injured, or recovery, the rehabilitation, the things that 2316 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 1: they do here to keep these guys on the field 2317 01:59:57,400 --> 02:00:00,880 Speaker 1: and healthy and keep them healthy and get them healthy 2318 02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:03,760 Speaker 1: to practice and to play. They lost fewer man games 2319 02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 1: to injury last year than anybody in the National Football League. 2320 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,920 Speaker 1: And it's no accident. And as encouraging as that might 2321 02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:12,320 Speaker 1: sound to fans, because they keep the best players on 2322 02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,800 Speaker 1: the field or get them back on the field sooner, 2323 02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:21,240 Speaker 1: imagine the recruiting tool that that is to get players 2324 02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:25,600 Speaker 1: here when they see that up close and personal, you 2325 02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:28,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, these guys actually care about 2326 02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:29,840 Speaker 1: me staying on the field, and I got to stay 2327 02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,040 Speaker 1: on the field to make my money. You know. They 2328 02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,040 Speaker 1: know it's a performance based business and what have you 2329 02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:36,840 Speaker 1: done for me lately? So it's a it's a fantastic 2330 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:40,480 Speaker 1: recruiting tool also, right, So you want to do NFL 2331 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,760 Speaker 1: true false, Let's do it man, all right. NFL true 2332 02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,360 Speaker 1: false brought to you by Yancy's fancy New York's artists 2333 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:50,320 Speaker 1: and Cheese NFL true false. Number one Giants wide receivers 2334 02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,600 Speaker 1: can be dominant, and that's what one of the Giants 2335 02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:59,200 Speaker 1: wide receivers says, right, that's right. So he's a former 2336 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,280 Speaker 1: second round pick of the Broncos from a few years ago, 2337 02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and he didn't do a whole lot there, washed out 2338 02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:06,960 Speaker 1: and is now with the Giants, has been for a 2339 02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:12,080 Speaker 1: season or two now, and he has penciled in as 2340 02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:14,360 Speaker 1: one of the top three receivers on their depth chart, 2341 02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,320 Speaker 1: along with Golden Tate, who they signed to Giant money 2342 02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:20,480 Speaker 1: in free agency after shipping out Beckham. And they also 2343 02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,600 Speaker 1: have Sterling Shepherd, their former second round pick who's primarily 2344 02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:27,240 Speaker 1: a slot guy. Cody Latimer, Corey Coleman. Yeah, they picked 2345 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:30,960 Speaker 1: up Coleman last year and kept him on the run ingram. 2346 02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 1: We'd throw into that piece. So while I like Tate, 2347 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,680 Speaker 1: especially as a run after catch option for them, he's 2348 02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:42,560 Speaker 1: thirty one, Shepherd's probably my favorite receiver of that group 2349 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,240 Speaker 1: because I think he's the most dangerous and the guy 2350 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,920 Speaker 1: that can bring the most consistency. But he's what's his claim, 2351 02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,640 Speaker 1: what's Latimer's claim? They're gonna be dominant as a group. 2352 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with no, So that's a false. I'm 2353 02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna say no. I don't think their pass offense is 2354 02:01:56,240 --> 02:01:59,000 Speaker 1: going to be no, especially if they if they make 2355 02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:03,600 Speaker 1: the eventual and expected change over to the rookie, right 2356 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:06,280 Speaker 1: you know quarterback. Yeah, I get Jane. If if they're 2357 02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:09,520 Speaker 1: going to Daniel Jones by week six, you're not gonna 2358 02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,000 Speaker 1: be dominant because you got that guy thrown to you. 2359 02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Both of us say false to that, So we're gonna 2360 02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 1: go one NFL true false Number two. In season hard 2361 02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:29,120 Speaker 1: knocks should replace training camp coverage with something else. Oh oh, 2362 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:31,360 Speaker 1: I see, I I got you, Okay, I misread that. 2363 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. In season hard knocks should replace training camp 2364 02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,120 Speaker 1: hard knocks. So what they were thinking about doing is 2365 02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,440 Speaker 1: taking the taking, like say, for instance, pick a game 2366 02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 1: midway through the season or two thirds of the way 2367 02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:46,360 Speaker 1: through the season, follow the two teams as they get 2368 02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,640 Speaker 1: to that game, and then cover that game as an 2369 02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:51,760 Speaker 1: episode of hard Knocks, like they do with the with 2370 02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the Winter Classic in hockey, you're gonna run into one 2371 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:58,320 Speaker 1: hundred more roadblocks from the teams. What doesn't matter? Should 2372 02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:00,520 Speaker 1: they replace it with that? If they can curl? Do 2373 02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,680 Speaker 1: you like that better than training because I don't think 2374 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:05,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get as much access as you do in 2375 02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,960 Speaker 1: training camp. So I'm going with false here. All these 2376 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,160 Speaker 1: storylines and development angles and making a roster or not 2377 02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:14,320 Speaker 1: that you get in training camp. I think coaching staffs 2378 02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:18,520 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more comfortable sharing then in a 2379 02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,840 Speaker 1: game week in the regular season. Do you think you're 2380 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna let you sit in on a team 2381 02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:26,280 Speaker 1: meeting or a game plan session or game plan being 2382 02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,400 Speaker 1: handed out in the Wednesday morning meeting. That is just 2383 02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 1: not happening. If they had all the access that you 2384 02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,520 Speaker 1: would like them to have. If they had all those 2385 02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and here's what would happen, Brown, and I can tell 2386 02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,480 Speaker 1: exactly how they would do it. They're gonna film it, 2387 02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:40,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna start it. It's gonna it's for a project 2388 02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,280 Speaker 1: that is two years down the road, and so the 2389 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:46,960 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen game that you're talking about wouldn't air until 2390 02:03:47,080 --> 02:03:50,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Is who's watching that then, right exactly. 2391 02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:52,280 Speaker 1: But that's the only way coaches would agree to it, 2392 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,200 Speaker 1: because two years down the road, you're fine because you're 2393 02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,800 Speaker 1: everything's evolved, You've got different players, different things, you know, 2394 02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:00,720 Speaker 1: think different things going on. Nobody's watching would fly. Nobody 2395 02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,040 Speaker 1: might watch not the way they watching training can nobody 2396 02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,160 Speaker 1: it's your current, it's access they don't normally get. You're 2397 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:10,840 Speaker 1: talking about competitive advantage. Yeah, and nobody's gonna touch it. 2398 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:15,640 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna touch it. A false also, I am a false. Listen, 2399 02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:17,840 Speaker 1: if it all worked well, I would watch it if 2400 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:20,360 Speaker 1: it was all now right, I mean that would be compelling, 2401 02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:23,840 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I would if I was a head coach, 2402 02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I would absolutely do it only kicking and screaming, and 2403 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I would I would have secret meetings off the cameras, sive. 2404 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way Steve's pulling the curtain. You 2405 02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,440 Speaker 1: can't get allowed in here. You can't give up game 2406 02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:42,320 Speaker 1: plan stuff to hard knocks people for ratings. All right, 2407 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:44,520 Speaker 1: So we're both false on that one too, all right, 2408 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,760 Speaker 1: So NFL true false number three, Bruce Smith would still 2409 02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:54,680 Speaker 1: be dominant in today's NFL, and I'm an absolute positive. Yeah, 2410 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:57,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about Bruce and his prime. Bruce Smith would 2411 02:04:57,480 --> 02:04:59,640 Speaker 1: still be dominant. And there's they have a list of 2412 02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:01,880 Speaker 1: like six guys and Bruce was the fruit. Wasn't one 2413 02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,840 Speaker 1: of the names on it. Of course, And I said, yes, yeah, 2414 02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:07,160 Speaker 1: I would. There's no question he would be Yeah, you 2415 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:10,280 Speaker 1: drafted Bruce Smith, Yeah, he'd be the same guy. I 2416 02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:17,960 Speaker 1: would say, yes, um, heavy hands man, heavy, heavy hands. 2417 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:23,360 Speaker 1: You know we just heard John Randall talking about at 2418 02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Oliver's hands and how impressive they are, and they are heavy. 2419 02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean when Ed Oliver gets into you, you know it. 2420 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't think enough people talk about Bruce and the 2421 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:37,280 Speaker 1: way he would just one arm people and then once 2422 02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:40,760 Speaker 1: he got a hold of that quarterbacks jersey, even with 2423 02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,840 Speaker 1: one hand, Yeah, he was throwing them down. He was 2424 02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:46,480 Speaker 1: never letting go. I've never seen Look we're watching ones 2425 02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:49,440 Speaker 1: right now. He just ragged all Boomers siasin. Yeah, he 2426 02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:52,600 Speaker 1: gets one hand on the jersey, it's over. Yeah, it's 2427 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,040 Speaker 1: a good thing him. And here's the one thing, though, Steve, 2428 02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:57,800 Speaker 1: that I'd be interested in seeing, because I think you 2429 02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:01,280 Speaker 1: can agree Bruce would have to do a lot more 2430 02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,440 Speaker 1: running to get his sacks with all the mobile quarterbacks 2431 02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:07,560 Speaker 1: we have now, right, I mean there are more pocket 2432 02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:13,760 Speaker 1: guys in his era, but Marino, whether Tony and Steve Grogan, 2433 02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:16,400 Speaker 1: he'd have to do a lot more chasing. Now Marino's 2434 02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:20,280 Speaker 1: out and not Dan Marino couldn't out run a wounded puppy. Well, right, 2435 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, so Bruce didn't have to chase him very much. 2436 02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:24,880 Speaker 1: But he did have a really good offensive line and 2437 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:26,520 Speaker 1: he could get rid of the football, so you might 2438 02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:28,880 Speaker 1: hit him, but you didn't sack him. There's like six 2439 02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,160 Speaker 1: guys on this list, players who would have been dominant. 2440 02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,760 Speaker 1: I agree with all six of them. Lawrence Taylor was 2441 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,480 Speaker 1: one of them. Dan Marino was another one. I agreed. 2442 02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:41,280 Speaker 1: Dan would have been great in any era. Lawrence Taylor 2443 02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,880 Speaker 1: would have been great in an era. Barry Sanders would 2444 02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:48,920 Speaker 1: have been great in any era. And interestingly enough, our 2445 02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:51,920 Speaker 1: last guest, John Randall, and I agree with him there 2446 02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:54,440 Speaker 1: as well. He would have been dominant in any era. 2447 02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:57,200 Speaker 1: He'd be even better. He could arguably be even better now. 2448 02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:59,480 Speaker 1: He might be getting better now. And the last one, 2449 02:06:59,560 --> 02:07:03,880 Speaker 1: which he may be a little bit controversial, Sterling Sharp, 2450 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:07,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver, Green Bay Packers, because he was he had 2451 02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:11,240 Speaker 1: a neck injury. He had an incredibly productive seven seasons 2452 02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:14,200 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. He's not in the Pro Football 2453 02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's in the College Football Hall of Fame. 2454 02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:18,600 Speaker 1: He as far as the number one guy, he was 2455 02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:21,320 Speaker 1: third in the NFL and receiving yards over his seven 2456 02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:24,920 Speaker 1: years behind Jerry Rice and Henry Ellard. He was productive 2457 02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and he had showed no signs of slowing down until 2458 02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:31,760 Speaker 1: he got injured. So yeah, I not only was there 2459 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:33,800 Speaker 1: are a handful of guys and maybe every air that 2460 02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:36,040 Speaker 1: could be successful in every air And I think, yeah, 2461 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:39,320 Speaker 1: question Bruce is yeah, yeah. The only thing, like I said, 2462 02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,360 Speaker 1: the only thing that makes me wonder a little bit, 2463 02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:43,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, I still think he would be a 2464 02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:46,200 Speaker 1: dominant pass rusher. I just wonder if he'd be able 2465 02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,480 Speaker 1: to accumulate the sacks that he did over that period 2466 02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:53,880 Speaker 1: of time, knowing that the prevalence of mobile quarterbacks is 2467 02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:57,000 Speaker 1: far higher than it was when he played. I mean, 2468 02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to name him off 2469 02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:00,480 Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I think a lot 2470 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:06,000 Speaker 1: of guys were. There were more pocket quarterbacks, strict pocket quarterback. 2471 02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking like Marino not rolling out in 2472 02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:11,800 Speaker 1: buying time to make a play. You know, there were 2473 02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,880 Speaker 1: more guys of that ilk than the Josh Allen's of 2474 02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:17,840 Speaker 1: the world, do you know what I mean? Josh Allen, 2475 02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, guys that can really get out and move, 2476 02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:25,120 Speaker 1: like really move. There's a lot more of them now. Well, yeah, 2477 02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:28,200 Speaker 1: and if you can look at the wonderful I mean, 2478 02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers pocket guy, Tom Brady pocket guy. I'm just 2479 02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,000 Speaker 1: trying to think of how many pocket guys we got here. 2480 02:08:34,280 --> 02:08:36,800 Speaker 1: You know. Kirk Cousins is kind of an in between 2481 02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,800 Speaker 1: rogers can get out of the pocket and move, you know. 2482 02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford pocket guy. Here's the thing. Seventy six quarterbacks. 2483 02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,680 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith sacked seventy six of them. Let's see how 2484 02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:50,800 Speaker 1: many of them are truly mobile? All right, let's just 2485 02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:54,400 Speaker 1: flootie and the hold on it now it says now 2486 02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:59,480 Speaker 1: there's no list here. Hold on o'ken O'Brien. Is he 2487 02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:02,440 Speaker 1: a runner? I don't know. He's a pocket guy? You know, 2488 02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:04,960 Speaker 1: flute he's won. I know he's sacked flute in his career. 2489 02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:09,040 Speaker 1: There's a mobile guy. Sure, Um who else was mobile 2490 02:09:09,080 --> 02:09:16,560 Speaker 1: back then? That would run around a lot? Hardball Cunningham okay, good? Uh, 2491 02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:20,760 Speaker 1: Elway could run, could run Joe's pocket Joe Montana, No, 2492 02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:22,560 Speaker 1: Warren Moon was not known as runner, but he was 2493 02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:26,120 Speaker 1: an athlete. Steve Young was a really yes, uh, Steve 2494 02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:30,200 Speaker 1: Grogan was not a good runner. Matt Hasselbeck. No, no, Um, 2495 02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, Ken O'Brien was not. No, Let's see some 2496 02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:39,800 Speaker 1: of the other guys he did. Uh yeah, you see 2497 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's the only thing that gives me 2498 02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:43,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of pause. I think I think it 2499 02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:44,920 Speaker 1: would be an effective player. I think he'd be a 2500 02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. But I just don't know if he'd 2501 02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:50,440 Speaker 1: be getting ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen sacks every season, you know, 2502 02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,200 Speaker 1: just with all the mobility that's in the league now. 2503 02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Russell Wilson. Is he running down Russell Wilson? 2504 02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,440 Speaker 1: Is he running down? Well, some guys are Josh Allen, 2505 02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. And let's face it too, this this 2506 02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:05,839 Speaker 1: was um he was on a team with Corney's Bennett, 2507 02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:09,120 Speaker 1: Darryl Talley and some other guys. So it's interesting thing. 2508 02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he would be a Hall of Fame player 2509 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:13,200 Speaker 1: in any era. I really do. Um, I don't know 2510 02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:15,200 Speaker 1: that you get two hundred sacks. Yeah, but you don't 2511 02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:16,480 Speaker 1: have to have two hundred sacks to get into the 2512 02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:17,880 Speaker 1: whole fame. But that would be the only thing that 2513 02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,200 Speaker 1: would give me pause. That's right, all right, We're gonna 2514 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:23,520 Speaker 1: be right back with to finish up here with with 2515 02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:25,640 Speaker 1: what have we Learned? This is One Bills Live presented 2516 02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:27,560 Speaker 1: by Clyde Health from One Bill's Drive. We'll be back 2517 02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:44,480 Speaker 1: to finish up. And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. What 2518 02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,200 Speaker 1: have we Learned? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New 2519 02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:51,160 Speaker 1: York's homes and businesses with the finest insecurity and home theater, 2520 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,400 Speaker 1: and the preferred alarm and home theater provider of the 2521 02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We had John Randall, Hall of Famer on 2522 02:10:56,960 --> 02:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the program today. We asked him about the comparison between 2523 02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:06,120 Speaker 1: himself and the Bill's top draft pick ed Oliver, and 2524 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:08,720 Speaker 1: he he said he noticed one or two things that 2525 02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:13,400 Speaker 1: gave him some thoughts about how successful Ed Oliver could be. 2526 02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:17,040 Speaker 1: And here's what he said. One of the things I 2527 02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:20,680 Speaker 1: noticed about from watching him was the way he uses 2528 02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:24,280 Speaker 1: his hands. And he uses his hand right off the bat. 2529 02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:26,640 Speaker 1: And what I mean by as soon as he's coming 2530 02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:29,880 Speaker 1: out of his hand, he's using his hands. And that's 2531 02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:33,320 Speaker 1: one of the main and the biggest things that I did. 2532 02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:35,160 Speaker 1: But as soon as I came out of my fan, 2533 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I was getting my hands out there trying to get 2534 02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:40,920 Speaker 1: off his I'm hands down. And when he's playing against 2535 02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,320 Speaker 1: it and he's going over the center. If anything, that's 2536 02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:45,520 Speaker 1: one of the things I didn't do because I didn't 2537 02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,520 Speaker 1: like going down often met with that sinner because you 2538 02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:50,680 Speaker 1: hadn't Charns. You have that guards almost on you. But 2539 02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,560 Speaker 1: if he's able to play upon that center, which he does, 2540 02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:57,120 Speaker 1: and that just makes the game even even better because 2541 02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,440 Speaker 1: he's a guy that can jump down him on that nose. 2542 02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:01,920 Speaker 1: And I played for a couple of players and hop 2543 02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:06,080 Speaker 1: back out and that just just just say it's death 2544 02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:10,560 Speaker 1: the playing John Randall talking about Ed Oliver saying that 2545 02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:13,640 Speaker 1: he liked what he saw from his hands, and John 2546 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:15,440 Speaker 1: Randall was one of the great guys of all time 2547 02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:18,800 Speaker 1: using his hands. We've had one guy, Angelo has been 2548 02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,200 Speaker 1: hanging on for quite a long time. I'm going to 2549 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,800 Speaker 1: take one last opportunity to get him on the program. Angelo, 2550 02:12:23,880 --> 02:12:26,520 Speaker 1: thanks for tank hanging on, taking the time to call 2551 02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. What's on your mind? Steve? 2552 02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:33,800 Speaker 1: My favorite player? There you go. What do you got Angelo? Well, 2553 02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I go back when they were you had a couple 2554 02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,520 Speaker 1: of questions about what would we need to keep Allen 2555 02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:42,560 Speaker 1: here when his contract runs out? Do you remember that 2556 02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:45,280 Speaker 1: that's been a while. Go ahead, what are your quick thoughts, 2557 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:47,440 Speaker 1: because we're running out of time. Go ahead, Angelo, couple 2558 02:12:47,440 --> 02:12:49,920 Speaker 1: of things listed and the other one of the other. 2559 02:12:50,440 --> 02:12:52,560 Speaker 1: And I tried to call in but couldn't get through. 2560 02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:55,560 Speaker 1: But I was going to come with other. And the 2561 02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:59,760 Speaker 1: thing that I thought would keep him here would be 2562 02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:04,600 Speaker 1: a roof on the stadium. No quarterback when his right 2563 02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:10,600 Speaker 1: mine wants to play in our buffalo with herself, he did, 2564 02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:14,440 Speaker 1: all right, Well, that's interesting, that's Angelo. I think I 2565 02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:16,640 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe you're right, but I don't know. Let's 2566 02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:18,680 Speaker 1: get to that. Let's hope we want Josh Allen to 2567 02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,200 Speaker 1: stay here so desperately we won't let him out of town. 2568 02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Let's do that with his army. Didn't need a roof exactly. 2569 02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:26,200 Speaker 1: Chris brown Chris Brownie, thanks for being on the show. 2570 02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Good stuff today tomorrow, all right, absolutely, thanks back here 2571 02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:32,040 Speaker 1: all right, Well, thanks to our production assistant George Blast, 2572 02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:36,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, JJ Territo, Kevin carg 2573 02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,200 Speaker 1: James Roebel, and of course, the ever Jolly Jay Harris 2574 02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,440 Speaker 1: as our producer. Jolly. I like that, okay, I like 2575 02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:46,800 Speaker 1: that word. Jolly. J Back here again tomorrow. Don Beebe's 2576 02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:48,760 Speaker 1: coming on the show tomorrow. An old friend of mine 2577 02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:50,640 Speaker 1: and a teammate, and a lot of people know him. 2578 02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:52,680 Speaker 1: He's a head coach. Now we'll ask him about that, 2579 02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:54,800 Speaker 1: and it'll be good to see it. And the field 2580 02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:59,360 Speaker 1: is taken shape. That's One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 2581 02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:02,120 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Thanks everybody, we'll talk to 2582 02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:02,560 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.