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Speaker 2: Protections are all it's they're they're kind of all predicated

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of different ways to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's that that's a very simplistic view of it, but truly,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you least more lead, more guys in, so you

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Speaker 2: like what suggested. You know, a wee could go and

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Speaker 3: So it's all that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: So then where the lion slides, where the hots are

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Speaker 2: Based on the concept that's called so you know we

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Speaker 2: There's just I don't know what I've been doing my

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Speaker 2: After by, you know, that's up to John and John

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Speaker 5: You guys around here haven't relied on rookie class much

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Speaker 2: Well, he just shows that we're not gonna play We're

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Speaker 2: And that's what you try to set that tone now

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Speaker 2: That I said, and why do you like this domm

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Speaker 3: And the guy is definitely I haven't coached against. Uh he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: By design and the guy's KYL does a really good

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Speaker 3: And you guys have been struggled running it.

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Speaker 2: this cut up and I just study sixty seventy plays

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Speaker 2: Just ideas things that people you just steal from other

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Speaker 3: Good calls that that we called.

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Speaker 2: And but again I say, we've had a lot of success.

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Speaker 2: So it's that trade off of Okay, this is who

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Speaker 2: is it you know, they really decided to defend it,

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Speaker 2: think we've had a little more production, not not maybe

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Speaker 1: There was one I think it was a third and

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They brought a look that they

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Speaker 2: tied up. They brought basically four they tied it. It

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Speaker 2: and they brought two guys outside, which is we don't

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Speaker 2: the wise guys. So when the two came free, that

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Speaker 2: was the design. There's a good blitz five man protection.

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Speaker 2: We can only block the five guys. So unless we

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Speaker 2: the protection and go that way. It would have been

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Speaker 2: really hard to pick up. Is a good design by

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Speaker 2: Spags and they did a good job on that overall,

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys,