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Speaker 1: just like you. So if you're driving, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to Steve Tasker here. Murph is called in sick today.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna take a day and uh, lucky for you,

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Speaker 1: with me. I gotta tell you, first of all, there's

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Speaker 1: We got I can't really talk about it because I

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Speaker 1: I'm a ticket holder. I got I've got, I got

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Speaker 1: I mean I literally am perspiring over that soft two fifty.

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Speaker 1: so it's how's your weekend go? It was good? So

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Speaker 1: look for and it's awesome stuff. So I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in Murph. He wasn't feeling it on Friday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Where should the Buffalo Bills go to find their number

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Speaker 1: That's where I say, yeah, Murph's out sick today. You

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Speaker 1: But he wants a lot of money, and more money

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Speaker 1: than Dallas, even Dallas is willing to stomach. And my

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Speaker 1: point here is, Earl Thomas, what the hell are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You've got to recognize where the market is and where

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Speaker 1: the market is right now. Safety might be the deepest

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Speaker 1: position in free agency. You can get a good can't

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Speaker 1: be him and an Han over an extra two million

432
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Speaker 1: a year. Go take the money and go play on

433
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Speaker 1: a on a defense that you know is good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go play on a Dallas defense that is a good defense.

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Speaker 1: Go play there with a pass rush from DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: who they just franchise. You know he's gonna be there

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Speaker 1: at least this year. Go play there and have balls

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Speaker 1: flying in the year early from quarterbacks that you can

439
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Speaker 1: pick off and take the other way. Take a one

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Speaker 1: year deal this year and make your money right next year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he doesn't want to take that

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Speaker 1: risk because he just got hurt this year. He's looking

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Speaker 1: at thirty and he's gonna be on the wrong side

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Speaker 1: of that age in very short order. But the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is this, You've got safeties flooding the market right now.

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Speaker 1: Landon Collins is gonna get big money. Indianapolis is probably

447
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Speaker 1: gonna go after him. They just decide, I mean, they

448
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Speaker 1: decided not to tender. They're restricted free agent safety Corey Moore.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna hit the market. So that's another young safety

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Speaker 1: in the market. Place. So you look at the safeties

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Speaker 1: that are going to be available. I mean, they're a

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Speaker 1: diamond doesn't like legitimate provens starting safeties and I'll get

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Speaker 1: I'll read you the list for you people on radio

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Speaker 1: who we're watching it on MSG, Landon Collins, Earl Thomas, Tyrone,

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Speaker 1: Matthew LaMarcus, Joiner, Adrian Amos, Haha, Clinton Dix, Kareem Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Vaccaro, Trey Boston and Gathers. Those are some guys

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Speaker 1: you know some of you may know a lot of

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00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: more names on that list than you than you were

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Speaker 1: then you realize you were going to Those guys are

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Speaker 1: all available. Those are all available, and they're all guys

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Speaker 1: with experience in the league. And it's a safety, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of safeties that you understand. And Landing Collins tops

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Speaker 1: the list. That guy can go. He's gonna get some money,

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Speaker 1: and I think that he's who sets the market, and

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Speaker 1: I think everybody else goes down from there. Now you

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Speaker 1: can see you can. I can see Earl Thomas's point

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Speaker 1: because listen, I've done it. I'm a guy you can

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Speaker 1: get me. I would say the most I would do

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Speaker 1: if I'm the team, if I'm landing Collins. I would

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Speaker 1: expect this as a best case scenario. Get a three

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Speaker 1: year deal, not a five or a six year deal,

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Speaker 1: but a three year deal, a lot of it guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be your that's gonna be your home

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Speaker 1: run that you wanted to hit now. And he was

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Speaker 1: at odds with the Seahawks last year over money. He's

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Speaker 1: probably still got a bad taste in his mouth over

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Speaker 1: half and to play for that, but he didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to be a free agent. The Seahawks wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have it and forced his hand. And I know this too.

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Speaker 1: The franchise tag thing is going away. It's going away.

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Speaker 1: Why do you say that? Um, it's just not it's

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Speaker 1: not fair for the players. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: their number one thing and the CBA in twenty number one,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be their number one beef. The

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Speaker 1: number one being a why because the star players are

486
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Speaker 1: gonna are gonna set the market. It's gonna start to

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Speaker 1: move where the best players are gonna say how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. And that's and they want to be free

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Speaker 1: when they finish their deal or they want to sign

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Speaker 1: a big time extension before the deal is up. And

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Speaker 1: that's the pressure the league, the team's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be under. There's none of them. No more this franchising guys,

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Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what it's really done from the

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Speaker 1: side of the union, Brownie, it's it's kept a lid

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Speaker 1: on the market. It's kept a big fat lid on

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Speaker 1: the market. And that's that's what the players are trying

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Speaker 1: to do, is get the lid off of it. We're

498
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Speaker 1: trying to off of it. There's another will. There's another

499
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Speaker 1: reported signing. This is a player who's staying with his team.

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Speaker 1: Linebacker Angelo Blackson, who still had not been signed, set

501
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Speaker 1: to hit free agency. The Houston Texans have resigned him now.

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Speaker 1: It's reportedly a three year deal for twelve million dollars

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Speaker 1: according to Adam Kaplan. So another guy that's probably going

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Speaker 1: to be off the market, at least at the linebacker position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's or or No, I'm sorry, he's a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: I'm confusing him with somebody else. Defensive tackle, Angelo Blackson.

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Speaker 1: Three years, twelve million. There, there you go, three years

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Speaker 1: twelve man. Steve Tasker here along with Chris Brown one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're here. Till three o'clock. The NFL's tampering

510
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Speaker 1: period has been on for twenty five minutes. We're gonna

511
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Speaker 1: have continue to put out the reports of interest and

512
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: the not so secret anymore conversations between players and teams.

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Speaker 1: It's already been reported as well that the Bills have

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Speaker 1: inquired about the availability or have interest in Frank Gore,

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Speaker 1: the veteran running back who played this last season for

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. A lot of it and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. I don't know how keen their interest is

518
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Speaker 1: or anything, but you gotta know this, as soon as

519
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Speaker 1: somebody finds out that a team called about a player,

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Speaker 1: it's construed as interest, no matter what it is or

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Speaker 1: how serious. Gara follow has said that about the Buffalo Bills. Also,

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Speaker 1: there's some things that have happened already. Miami te signed

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen. The Patriots are gonna trade from Michael Bennett

524
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Speaker 1: Collectiosemile was traded for by the Jets. He's left guard

525
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Speaker 1: that played in Oakland this last year. UH and miamis

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Speaker 1: and as we said a little earlier, and then Trent

527
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Speaker 1: Brown to the Raiders. Trent Brown to the Raiders left

528
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Speaker 1: tackle for the for the Patriots, who is going out

529
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Speaker 1: to four years, sixty six million, record setting contract for

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Speaker 1: a left tackle in the NFL. That's going to cause

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Speaker 1: a ripple effect as well. So, uh, Steve Tasker along

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Speaker 1: with Chris Browns, you're One Bills Live. We are going

533
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Speaker 1: to take a break. You can call us if you like, Scott,

534
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to you're in Buffalo. I'll call you.

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Speaker 1: We'll let you on the air. And this next segment

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Speaker 1: Steve task along with Chris brown and One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to one of Bill's lives. Chief's Tasker in

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Speaker 1: the day for Murf sitting in his the big chair,

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Speaker 1: the adult chair, and Brownie, you're taking my chair at

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Speaker 1: the what do you calling Mine's the children's table, nouch

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00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: to you, it's usually mine, So I can I feel

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00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: your pain? Yeah, okay, yeah, So I was unaware of this.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we task system that on set here. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: ever aware of it until Murph's gone. Then somebody's got

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Speaker 1: to sit in the big chair and they move me

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Speaker 1: in there an untouchable's chair too, Sacred cows walking around

548
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Speaker 1: the studio. It should be because you think because I know, right,

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Speaker 1: it's you don't know until you sit get in here,

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00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: and then uh, you know what are you gonna say?

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00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: So we gotta And also now this just end, we're

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Speaker 1: keeping track of the NFL free agency and they we've

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00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: got a tweet that just came in from Josina Anderson

554
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: and she's tweeting out that she says, I'm told that

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Speaker 1: there have been some some level of discussions within the

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Speaker 1: Bills organization on pending free agent defensive end Trey Flowers.

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Speaker 1: Gathering of opinions was the tone of the conveyed at

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Speaker 1: this point. Other potential targets that peaked interest in similar

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: discussions are mired in tag situations, which if you go

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Speaker 1: down the defensive ends that have been tagged, those some

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Speaker 1: pretty big names. Their defensive end, Trey Flowers was not

562
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Speaker 1: tagged and is a pending free agent, so the Bills

563
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: are inquiring about it. Austin Houston, Yeah getting cut too,

564
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's gonna be some names out there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the defensive front. And you know, the Bills do want

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Speaker 1: to improve the line. They did sign Jordan Phillips to

567
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Speaker 1: a one year deal, and I no offense to Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 1: But I think to a certain degree that's an insurance

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Speaker 1: signing in the event that they can't get somebody that

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Speaker 1: maybe they want a high profile player, be a free

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00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: agency or high in the draft, which is very deep,

572
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Speaker 1: as we know in defensive line talent, steeped in defensive

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Speaker 1: line talent this year. I mean, you can make the

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Speaker 1: argument that six of the first ten picks off the

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Speaker 1: board in the draft are going to be defensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: maybe even more than that, So well, yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be The pass rush market is fascinating to

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Speaker 1: me because there is a depth of talent in the

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Speaker 1: draft number one, and there is proven free agent talent

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Speaker 1: that's going to be out there, and that's why a

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Speaker 1: player like Trey Flowers is probably going to command to

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Speaker 1: salary upwards of seventeen million dollars a season, which at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the year you would have said that's insane,

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Speaker 1: but there he is, so and he's probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: that money because there's going to be enough of a

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Speaker 1: demand because as much as this is a quarterback league,

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00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: the reaction to that defensively is you better have a

588
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: pass rusher that can neutralize opposing quarterbacks because if you

589
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: don't have one, you better get one. I'm more inclined

590
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: to have the Bills draft that kind of a talent,

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Speaker 1: get cheaper labor, you know, in the form of a rookie,

592
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Speaker 1: because you have enough pass rushing talent in the draft

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Speaker 1: this year where I think you can still get a

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Speaker 1: starting caliber player on the edge in the second round.

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Speaker 1: That's how deep that talent goes. So I'd be less

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Speaker 1: inclined to pay somebody seventeen million dollars a season for

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Speaker 1: the next four seasons, especially knowing that Jerry Hughes is

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Speaker 1: in the last year of his deal. I understand the

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Speaker 1: sense of urgency in getting another pass rusher, but man,

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Speaker 1: I'd I'd rather get one in the first two days

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Speaker 1: of the draft and get some cheap labor that way, right,

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Speaker 1: you can know those guys. Plus, the expectations don't have

603
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Speaker 1: to be through the roof. I mean, if you're gonna

604
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Speaker 1: trade for a Pro Bowl an All Pro player, you

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Speaker 1: expecting to be all Pro from the word go. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you draft a guy, you can say, Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have some growing pains and it's easier for him

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Speaker 1: to play up to the contract as a rookie rather

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Speaker 1: than as an all pro. And I had to the

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Speaker 1: reason I'm I'm shuffling through about a stand doing over here,

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Speaker 1: all right? There was a there was a tweet put

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Speaker 1: out that was and I want to get to this

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Speaker 1: um and we don't have to spend too much time

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Speaker 1: on this. The Antonio Brown trade that happened over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and it was laid out really well as to what

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Speaker 1: the Brown, what the Raiders gave up over the last

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Speaker 1: eight to twelve months with Khalil Mack, with Amari Cooper

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Speaker 1: and the draft picks, and then they got in return,

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Speaker 1: and it was pretty interesting, and he'll give you an

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Speaker 1: idea of where they're headed. They had a long way

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Speaker 1: to go. Believe me, I thought they were. They were

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Speaker 1: a dumpster fire this year. As it turns out, when

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Speaker 1: they traded Khalil Mack, I think that took that took

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Speaker 1: the heart right out of their locker room. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's they knew right then. Their season was in

626
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Speaker 1: the dumper and the players played like an all year.

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Speaker 1: It really sucked the enthusiasm out of that locker room.

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Speaker 1: And I think they paid the price for it for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year, and then when they traded

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper was give up was give up time for them,

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Speaker 1: and now they're trying to climb out of that. Right.

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Speaker 1: So over the course of that of that trade, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders gave up Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper, and they

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Speaker 1: gave up four picks or five picks, none of which

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Speaker 1: was higher than a second round pick. They gave one second,

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Speaker 1: one third, a fourth and a fifth or a six,

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Speaker 1: a fourth and a sixth or something like. They have

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Speaker 1: four picks, none of them. They had one second round

639
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: and a third round or everything else was behind that.

640
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And Amari Cooper and Khalil Macknow there's the real value, right,

641
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: those two three ones this year. Now they got back

642
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. They have three ones, right, and and a

643
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: third and a fifth and a sixth or something like that.

644
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean they got like five picks back or they

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: gave back well, they gave up a three and a

646
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: five to get Antonio Brown, right, but they still have

647
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: their three, still have the three ones. That's that's the

648
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: that's the main deal. That's they got one und pick

649
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: four and then they have two in the twenties there.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, like twenty five and twenty seven

651
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: or something. Um, but yeah, that it was. That's where

652
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: the rubber is going to meet the road for them

653
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: because they've got to fill some key positions with those

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Speaker 1: first round draft choices, particularly on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, their defense was a major liability

656
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: last year. So it's going to be interesting to see

657
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: where they choose to use their free agent dollars in

658
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: terms of the positions and where they choose to use

659
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: their draft choices to fill those other holes. All right,

660
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: they're very quickly the headline story of the off season,

661
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: between the trades they made of Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper.

662
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Now the acquisition of Antonio Brown put them on front

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00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: page news, and now they've just signed Trent Brown today.

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Speaker 1: We actually should go down the list and see what

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00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: other Browns are out there in free agency. They're bound

666
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: to sign them sooner or later. We're gonna make that

667
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: list and then then you're gold. Right, yeah, you want

668
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: to come on the show. All right. So here on

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Speaker 1: social media and all the feedback that we're getting, most

670
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: people are saying, hey, fix all that offensive line stuff

671
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: through free agency. Do all you have to do in

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00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: trade market. But when it comes to it, draft Dk

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Speaker 1: Metcalf at number nine. Make sure you get that done,

674
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Speaker 1: and we've got a call or on the line. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a call from Scott in Buffalo. Scott, you

676
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: think the Bills should take DK Metcalf at number nine

677
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: in the draft? Is that right? Yeah? I'm not. I'm

678
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: not a big believer in Dk. He's uh he was

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: fourth on the team there and all MISSI on receptions

680
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: and third in yards. And I just really, if they

681
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: really want to take a wide receiver in the first round,

682
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I'd really like to see him actually trade back, collect

683
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: some extra picks and take a shout on a different

684
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: guy and kind of just stay away from DK. And

685
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Scott, there's always two sides of this,

686
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: and I get yet you're right. He wasn't. He didn't

687
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: have to have an enormously great statistical year. But here's

688
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Speaker 1: what I what we were told when we started asking

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00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: people about Dk Metcalf. H he was a kid who's

690
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: a red shirt sophomore. Right, so he's actually a junior,

691
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: but he was red shirted as a as a freshman,

692
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: so he came in and he hasn't played much football,

693
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: He got hurt, didn't play much football, and then when

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: he did get on the field, all of a sudden

695
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: he exploded a little bit like Robert Foster. When he

696
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: got a chance here in Buffalo this last last season,

697
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: they started throwing to him and he started being really productive.

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00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: And the simple fact of the matter is he didn't

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00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: play much football because one an injury and two he's young.

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00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't have that may see at two

701
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: seasons where he could actually play, one of them was

702
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: stolen by injury. So there's some thought that when he

703
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: does get a chance to play a lot, he's not

704
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: only got a lot to learn and a huge upside,

705
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: but he's also going to get pretty good pretty fast.

706
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: So that's the thing on dec And and but that

707
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: is a cute That is a huge question, I think

708
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: question quest Is he going to help you? I think

709
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: right away he can help you as a jump all

710
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: type receiver, a go route kind of guy. But is

711
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: this guy helping you on routes over the middle? Is

712
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: he gonna you know what, where where? And how often

713
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: is he going to be able to help you? And

714
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: how quickly is that going to come to him? M R?

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00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: How did he learn at Old Miss? What is the

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00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: way that the coaches teach the receivers in terms of

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: this offense? Do they get plays in the huddle? Do

718
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: they get signals from the sideline? I mean, what is

719
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: the learning curve? And believe me, the Bills are going

720
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: to do their due diligence on that if they haven't

721
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: already to a large degree, and they'll feel if they

722
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: feel good about him, well then yeah, he probably is

723
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: an option at number nine. But beyond that, I still

724
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: believe you've got to go get your number one guy.

725
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: It's got to be a proven commodity. I mean, could

726
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: this guy be a number one in time? Sure, but

727
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: why not to help your young quarterback, get a veteran

728
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: receiver who's proven it in the league and put him

729
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: on the field so you have somebody that you know

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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 1: he can throw to eight to ten times a game

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Speaker 1: on Sundays in twenty nineteen, Scott anything else? What do

732
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? I mean, well, my problem is with

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Speaker 1: receivers and taking I don't like taking a risk on

734
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: the top ten on a receiver, and I really wide

735
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: receiver once I'm not even sold at this's the way

736
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: to win me and I just I'd love to see

737
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: them fix their offensive and defensive line problems first, go

738
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: inside out. I mean, the New England Patriots just won

739
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with a former quarterback. Is their technical

740
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. I just I don't like the

741
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: risk at that spot. And uh, it just it just

742
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: concerns men. I mean, all that said, I could be

743
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: dead room, they could draft DK Metcalf and it could

744
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: be a blast for the next ten years. But yeah,

745
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: that's my consent, all right, and it's well founded. I

746
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: appreciate it. There's always that concern and no matter where

747
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: they draft or who they draft, there's always going to

748
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: be and um a chance that you know, it's a

749
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: bus if it's DK Metcalf for anybody else. That's why

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00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: we've got our Twitter poll out and you can chime

751
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: in if you want to. The Twitter poll is, how

752
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: would the Buffalo Bills best be served going forward? Let's see,

753
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: let's just I want to make sure I get this right,

754
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: because it's it's incredibly important that I stated exactly right.

755
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: Where should the Buffalo Bills go to find their number

756
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: one receiver? Is at the draft? Thirty nine percent of

757
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: you say yes, it's the draft, should they trade for one?

758
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Thirty six percent of you say yeah, trade for one,

759
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: and twenty five of you percent of you say, now,

760
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: let's get one in free agency because you think there's

761
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: one out there. For those of you who think it's

762
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: gonna it's a free agent, I'd be interested to see

763
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: if you have a name to go along with that,

764
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: because the free agent market, I mean, you can just

765
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: you can look at the names yourself, and you know,

766
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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody on that free agent

767
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: list that is gonna get you that excited going forward.

768
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: Let's just well, let's just look at it. It's Terrell Williams,

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00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Devin Funchs, John Brown, John Brown just signed. He's John's Yeah,

770
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: John Brown. He hasn't signed yet. I heard rumors them

771
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: he may resign with Baltimore. But Adam Humphries, Golden Tate,

772
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: Dante Moncrief, Cole Beasley, Jamison Crowder, Randall Cobb, Philip Dorset, So, Crowder,

773
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: cob Tate, Humphries all slot guys. Cole Beasley, slot guy.

774
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: So five of those nine what do we got nine

775
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: or ten names? There? Ten names? Five of those ten

776
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: names those are all slot guys. You know, Tyrrell Williams

777
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: is going to get paid because the market is so

778
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: soft at outside receiver where you have a size player, uh,

779
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: you know who can make plays for you above the rim.

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00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: You know, Philip Door said is a speed guy that

781
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: really has never maximized production. Uh. Dante Moncrief, I think

782
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: could be a very good number two receiver for you,

783
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: much like he was in Indianapolis alongside t Y Hilton

784
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: before going to Jacksonville and free agency, but obviously flamed

785
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: out down there with that run first oriented offense. There's

786
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: a guy you could get into an affordable price where

787
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: you could hit on a guy by buying low and

788
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: the benefits you know, could be really really good if

789
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: you use him properly. So I wouldn't I wouldn't mind

790
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: seeing Dante Moncrief here. Tyrrell Williams is kind of like,

791
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: what are you getting there? I still feel like, while

792
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: he's capable of making those big plays for you in

793
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: an offense, I'm just wondering how effective he would be

794
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: once he's the center of a defense's attention. Because in

795
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: Los Angeles the center of attention is Keenan Allen. And

796
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: you also have to respect the talents of Melvin Gordon

797
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: in the run game, and I think that presents very

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00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: favorable coverages for Tyrrell Williams every week. So now that's

799
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: sort of the projection for me. That's where the projection

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00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: gets tricky for personnel executives because you're saying, Okay, we

801
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: like some of what we see here, but his production

802
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: helped by having Keenan Allen on the other side getting

803
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: all the attention. Yeah, there's two sides to look at

804
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: that though. Brownie, you got a guy, and you got

805
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: a guy that like Keenan Allen or a guy like

806
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown for that matter, who is a devon, wants

807
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: the ball and it starts calling for it. Some of

808
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: these guys like Juju Smith Schuster, Hey, he's a pretty

809
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: good player, and he was a good player even with

810
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: you know, andre Antonio Brown on the roster. Some of

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00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: these guys like get out of my way, I want

812
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: to play, and they're good enough to do that right now.

813
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's hard, but it happens a lot.

814
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: It happens on a lot of teams where you've got

815
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: a stack of guys that are really good and one

816
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: of them doesn't get the opportunity that he would get

817
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: on other teams to be a really great player. So

818
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: there's that side of the coin too. You can say, well,

819
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: he's the only reason he's playing well is because he's

820
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: got other guys and are his team that are good. Yeah,

821
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: you know what, he might be even better if you

822
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: get out of his way and look put him at

823
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: number one. So the flip side is he just needs

824
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: the opportunity, that's right, and that's what all these guys

825
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: are looking for. That's what all these guys are looking for.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see Steve Tasker Chris Brown on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Drive. We are on One Bills Live. We're gonna

828
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Speaker 1: be here till three. We're gonna take a break, I'm

829
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna come back, and we've got Andrew Brant coming on

830
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: later in the show. Vic Tafer coming on later in

831
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Speaker 1: the show to talk about NFL free agency. The tampering

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Speaker 1: period is over. You're listening to it on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve task along with

835
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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we're here till three talking about NFL free agency,

836
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: the tampering period, opened up at noon today and already

837
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Speaker 1: we are experiencing kind of a flurry of activity, no

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00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: question about it. Well, and the latest flurry of activity

839
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Speaker 1: involves our ties into our Twitter poll there, Steve Right,

840
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: how do you think the Buffalo Bills should best address

841
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: their wide receiver? Number one wide receiver? And the poll

842
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: continues to be extremely close. Thirty nine percent of you

843
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: say draft him, thirty six percent say trade for him,

844
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Speaker 1: and twenty five percent say pick one up in free agency.

845
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Speaker 1: And there might be somebody new in the trade. And

846
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: we just came up on Twitter the Giants are still

847
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: involved in trade discussions with Odell Beckham Junior. According to

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Speaker 1: a source, one of the league's best wide receivers remains

849
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: on the market. That's being reported by Jeff Howe. Now

850
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: it can be previously reported that he was not available

851
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: for trade, So this is kind of flip flop back

852
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: and forth. So there are contradictory reports, probably coming from

853
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: different sources. So it's really hard to ascertain, you know,

854
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: what the Giants really want to do here? Are they

855
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: trying to put out back channel type messages to certain

856
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: reporters to kind of signal to the league that, hey,

857
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: we encourage you to call us. This guy could be

858
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: had for the right price. I gotta say, I'm just

859
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna say this, Steve, after seeing Antonio' Brown go for

860
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: just a third and a fifth? Are you interested if

861
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: you're the Giants? And moving on from Odell Beckham. J

862
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior had as a reputation for being pretty emotional,

863
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: passionate off the handle, diva wide receiver, no question about it,

864
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: until Antonio Brown said hold my beer and watch me

865
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, and he signs the huge contract and

866
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: you gotta think now, Odell Beckham seeing his house has

867
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: been like twenty four to forty eight hours since that

868
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: trade came through a hotel. Beckham's going he signed for

869
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: what Odell Beckham now talk on him. He the first

870
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: thing he did was pick up his phone and say

871
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: me too. The first thing he did was tell his agent,

872
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: make it happen, let's go, and that's there you go.

873
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: And that was the ripple effect that I think some

874
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: of us kind of thought might happen. There's some guys

875
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: out there that do not hesitate to say listen, he

876
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: used his I'm using mind, I won't show up for

877
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: training camp. I won't show up for OTAs. I refuse

878
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: to play for the Giants unless I get that deal

879
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: right there, period. So trade me for whatever you can get,

880
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: because I want to. I want to go someplace and

881
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: play for that kind of money. Odell Beckham, is it

882
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: really impossible to envision him taking that rhetorical stance. Uh? No,

883
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: not at all. I agree. So yeah, I mean, where

884
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire. We'll have to wait and see.

885
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: But um, I mean, if he's out there, I mean

886
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: you have to and Steve I kind of agree with you.

887
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: You wonder if Beckham sees the new money that Brown

888
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: gets and said, well, I gotta get mine. Oh yeah,

889
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here if I'm gonna get mine,

890
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe he said I'd like to be traded. Uh.

891
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: And you know, but I would think that if that's

892
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: the case, it would be more widely reported. Here's the thing.

893
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: They'd be going to bigger fish to put that out. Well,

894
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: here's the thing too. I mean you got to know

895
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: that this had died down right, I mean because they

896
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: had gotten reports from they were talking about that last year.

897
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: We're yeah, we're not gonna do this. And it's a

898
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: look for me, you don't trade to rate truly great player. Listen,

899
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: he is a great player. You can say what you

900
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: want about him. It's like Antonio Brown. Odell Beckham is

901
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: faster and bigger than Antonio Brown to Brown's had a

902
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: more production. But I think it's one of the reasons

903
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: because Eli was thrown to Odell and Ben was thrown

904
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: to Antonio. Their offense was just better in Pittsburgh, and

905
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: and Antonio reaped the benefits of it a little bit.

906
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: Those two guys, I mean, they're they're really good, and

907
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: you don't trade guys like that. Now, I say, that's

908
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: and we've had one had happened in the last forty

909
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: eight hours. But it's for a mega deal, and it

910
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: cost the Steelers a ton. It costs him a ton

911
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty one point five million in cap and a great

912
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: player for a what a fifth and a third a

913
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: third and a fifth. That's it's a bad trade for

914
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers, right, But their hands are tight. Yeah, everybody

915
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: in the world knows that they that he wants out

916
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: of there, so and then you know he's being all

917
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: whacking and social media even more, which certainly wasn't inflating

918
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: his market value. Yeah, the biggest the biggest risk that

919
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: the Raiders had to take was paying him a lot

920
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: of money. And I gotta say I'm just gonna say

921
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: this now. Thirty million dollars and guaranteed money, even for

922
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: a thirty year thirty one year old wide receiver who

923
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: keeps himself in immaculate shape, I still think is a Yeah,

924
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money. I mean, I think he

925
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: can probably perform at the level he's been performing at

926
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: for probably two more seasons. I don't know if he's

927
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: getting that. I don't know if the Raiders are getting

928
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: that when he's thirty four. They're not getting that when

929
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: he's thirty four, I'll be pretty surprised. So thirty million guaranteed,

930
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean that is that is a big That's like

931
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: one of them horse pills. If you gotta swallow, like

932
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: one of those big antibiotics. Got to wash that down

933
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: with something, because that's a hard one to swallow. That's tough.

934
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: All right, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here and one Bills Live.

935
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: We're here to three. We're gonna take a quick break,

936
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: and at the top of the hour, we're gonna keep

937
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: going with the NFL free agent market. This is One

938
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

939
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Bills Radiolo Hills Radio Network. Sports Update. The Eagles have

940
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: signed offensive tackle Jason Peters to a one year contract

941
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: for the twenty nineteen season. Peters expected to line up

942
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: at left tackle for his eleventh season as an Eagle.

943
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Peters started all sixteen games in the regular season in

944
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and played seventy nine percent of the team's

945
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: offensive snaps. He stated the two He also started the

946
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: two postseason games. It's been reported the former's Patriots offensive

947
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: tackle Trent Brown intends to sign a four year, sixty

948
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: six million dollar contract with the Raiders that includes thirty

949
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: six point seven five million guaranteed, which would make him

950
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history. It's reported

951
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: that the Vikings are not exercising the option on starting

952
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: safety Andrew Sendejo, making him a free agent. The decision

953
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: not to exercise Sendeo's contracts saves Minnesota five point five

954
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: million Sindeo spent eight seasons with the Vikings and was

955
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: placed on injured reserve after just five games in twenty

956
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: eighteen after suffering a groin injury. Just days after being

957
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: released by the Jaguars defensive end Defensive tackle Malik Jackson

958
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: is expected to sign with the Eagles to a three

959
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: year deal. We're thirty million dollars. Jackson appeared in all

960
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: sixteen games with ten starts in two eighteen and totaled

961
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: three point five sacks. The Lions announced that they have

962
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: signed former Patriots and Dolphins receiver Dammy Amendola to a

963
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: one year deal that includes a four point five million

964
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed bass salary. The Dolphins cut Amendola on Friday

965
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: following his following his signing to Detroit before the new

966
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: league year opens on Wednesday, not twenty four hours after

967
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: acquiring Antonio Brown, the Raiders have agreed to trade veteran

968
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: left guard collecchi assemile To in a two nineteen six

969
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: round draft pick to the Jets for a fifth round pick.

970
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: The Raiders will also save ten point two million on

971
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: the salary crap cap with the trade. Defensive end Dante

972
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: Fowler signed a one year deal with fourteen million with

973
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: the Rams. Fowler had six starts and eight regular season

974
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: games with the Rams in twenty eighteen and contributed a

975
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: pair of sacks. And twenty one tackles Steve Tasker along

976
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown on One Bills Live. We're here from

977
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive all day with all the news on

978
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: the free agent market. We're also asking for your feedback

979
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: on a Twitter poll that we put out and it

980
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: has sound and it sounds like like this, how do

981
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: you think or where should the Buffalo Bills go to

982
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: find their number one receiver? Thirty nine percent of you

983
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: have chimed in and said they should draft him, draft

984
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: a big number one receiver. Thirty five percent of you

985
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: say nah, just trade for the guy, and twenty six

986
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: percent of you think they're gonna find one or think

987
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: they should find one in free agency. We're getting all

988
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: kinds of feed on feedback on social media, as you

989
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: can imagine. Brownie, you have said that if you want

990
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: to get a guy that's actually going to be a

991
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: number one this year, trades probably the way to go.

992
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: Trade or free agency, and there will be another guy

993
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: available either by trade or free agency. Based on what

994
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson tweeted a short time ago. Now, this is

995
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: one of the reporters down there in Tampa, Rick Stroud.

996
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: He says Bucks say they have not released DeShawn Jackson,

997
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: even if his tweets suggests his career is over in

998
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. So that means that they're looking to trade

999
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: him right now. Basically, DeShawn Jackson a short time ago

1000
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: said Tampa, it was a great experience, but things didn't

1001
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: work out. Looking forward to my next destination. Stay tuned

1002
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: with some big eyeball emojis. So what that means. What

1003
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: I interpreted from that is he's either a getting traded

1004
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: or be getting released. And now you've got a Tampa

1005
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: reporter calling the Bucks, and the Bucks are saying, no,

1006
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: he's not released, he's under contract. They're gonna try these

1007
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: next couple of days to trade him, but they need

1008
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: cap relief. And you know, by four pm on Wednesday,

1009
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams have to be under the salary

1010
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: cap for twenty nineteen, which is one hundred and eighty

1011
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: eight point two million, And the Bucks, you know, with

1012
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: their cap space, they're a little tight, so you would

1013
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: presume they would probably you know, release him if they

1014
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: can't find a trade destination. Now, the problem is you've

1015
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: got thirty one other teams who, even though they might

1016
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: have a receiver, need might say, well, if they're gonna

1017
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: cut him anyway, Let's take our chances and jump in

1018
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: when they cut this. And this just came down. It

1019
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: was announced by the Buffalo Bills they're expected to add

1020
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: free agents. This is from Ian Rappaport about the Bills.

1021
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: The Bills are expected to add free agent cornerback Kevin Johnson,

1022
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: the source said, giving them a former first round pick

1023
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: in the secondary. The deal was pending the final review

1024
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: of the contracts. So the Buffalo Bills jumping in on

1025
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: and the free agent markets, signing cornerback Kevin Johnson, former

1026
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: first round pick who was released earlier this week or

1027
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: late last week by the Houston Texans. A little bit

1028
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: injury plagued in Houston, but a guy with a lot

1029
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: of measurables that comes to the Buffalo Bills at cornerback,

1030
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: giving them some depth back there, strengthening their secondary once again.

1031
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: And you kind of forget. You can't stand pat on

1032
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: either side of the football, but we kind of thought

1033
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, guy's going to give them some depth at

1034
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: at the very least, but also had them add some

1035
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: credibility back there. So here's the on the other side

1036
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: of Tredavious White, right, and I'm not surprised by this

1037
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: move at all. He was in for a visit last week,

1038
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: so he was clearly on their radar. There's a connection here.

1039
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: You know, John Butler, the Bills secondary coach, was Kevin

1040
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Johnson's defensive backs coach in Houston for the first three

1041
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: years of his career, so there's a familiarity there. That's

1042
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Number one is a former first round pick. I mean,

1043
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: this guy started in the slot as a rookie and

1044
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: then started outside when injuries didn't force him to the sideline.

1045
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him, injuries have gotten the best of him,

1046
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: including what was very serious concussion. He had a concussion

1047
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: in the preseason in Week three last summer, and then

1048
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: he suffered another concussion in Week one, so two concussions

1049
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: in less than a month. They put him on IR.

1050
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: It ended his season. He played one game last year. Now, obviously,

1051
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: if the Bills are in fact going to go ahead

1052
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: with this, as Ian Rappaport is reporting, they've done their

1053
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: due diligence on the physical side, he probably feels he

1054
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: probably feels violated. They went over him so much with

1055
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: a fine tooth column. But here's the thing he's going

1056
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: to clear the physical. This is now the third year

1057
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: under Sean McDermott, second full year we're wrapping up here

1058
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: under Brandon being in May, and each offseason they have

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00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: made at least one budget signing at cornerback in free agency.

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00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, it was e. J. Gaines. Okay, in

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00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen it was Vonte Davis and Philip Gaines, and

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: now here we are with Kevin Johnson. The Bills look

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00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: to find someone out there in free agency at the

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00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: cornerback position that isn't going to break the bank because

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00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: at the high end of the scale, it's one of

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00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: the most expensive positions on your roster. But the bottom

1067
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: line is you need cornerbacks in this league to be

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00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: a good defense. So and it's smart too, because you

1069
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: get a guy that's not gonna be too big for him.

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00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: He's a veteran, it's not nothing's gonna come out physically talented.

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00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? What's he'll be able to

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00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: be a calming influence and the guy you can say,

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00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: put out there, plug in, he's gonna know what he's doing.

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00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: So presumably he's a guy that's going to compete with

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace for that starting outside corner spot opposite Trdavious White's.

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: It's also nice to know that Kevin Johnson has experienced

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00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: in the slot from his rookie year, which that's where

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00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: he started because on the outside they had Kareem Jackson

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00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Joseph, I mean, two established players entrenched in

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00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: their starting roles, so they started Kevin john in the slot.

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: So as as the Bills always talk about they love

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00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: players that have position flexibility. Now they have a great

1083
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: young nickel corner and tarn Johnson, but it's always good

1084
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: to have somebody who's capable of sliding in there should

1085
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: there be an injury, so you know if in fact

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: this comes to fruition, and obviously we won't know for

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00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: sure until Wednesday, this is a good This is a

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00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: good signing not only for starting competition, but if Levi

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: Wallace in training camp can hold a guy like this

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00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: off and hold on to the starting job, boy, this

1091
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: is a heck of a guy to have in depth.

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, we're gonna I'm gonna take Corey in Massachusetts.

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your call in just a minute. But

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: if anybody else wants to call in eight with three

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00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifties

1096
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: Steep Tasker along with Chris Brown. The NFL tampering period

1097
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: has begun began at noon today, abou at least over

1098
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: an hour ago. There's all kinds of stuff going on.

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: We're trying to stay on top of it. The Bills

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00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: just signing Kevin Johnson, looks like they're pending signing Kevin Johnson,

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00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: the four first round cornerback from the Houston Texans. Getting

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: a headstart on that. A lot of movement in the

1103
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: National Football League. And you can chime in and weigh in.

1104
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: And also where do you think the Buffalo Bills should

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00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: get their number one wide receiver? How do you think

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00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna fix that problem? Are they gonna draft him,

1107
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna trade for him? Are they gonna get one

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00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: in free agency? Those things are all on the table.

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00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a call right now from Corey in Massachusetts. Corey,

1110
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: this is Steve Tasker Chris Brown on one Bills Live.

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00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: Can you hear us? Hey, guys, how you doing doing well?

1112
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the call, Really appreciate it. Thank you.

1113
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Metcalf for a little bit.

1114
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: I know, its combine numbers and the pictures that we

1115
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: see all over social media are quite something, but no

1116
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: one really talks about his cone, drill and his lateral movement.

1117
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: And I just think that number nine or any place

1118
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: in the first round is really a lot to ask

1119
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: for a guy who can basically just run straight and fast.

1120
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: His combine, cone and lateral movement are worse than Tom Brady.

1121
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not really point number one wide receiver.

1122
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: That's yeah, it's laughable. And I get it, you're right there.

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: There's listen, Corey, I get it. There's none of these

1124
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: guys are gonna come in here and knock your socks

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00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: off a lot. But if, and I'm with you, if

1126
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: there's a hole in his abilities, it's gonna show up

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00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: at some point on the field. Do you agree, Oh, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the production coupled with the combine

1129
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: latter movements does tell a concerning story just but we

1130
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: know the production doesn't mean everything in college. But I

1131
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: think that that's a little high number nine for a

1132
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: guy liked Sak that count well, it might be h certainly,

1133
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: the other parts of his combining experience combined experience were

1134
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: off the charts. But I agree with you, there's always

1135
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: going to be a question with him. And it's like

1136
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Chris Brown said a few minutes ago, you don't know

1137
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: what he was asked to do in that old Miss offense.

1138
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: And you know, and while he played, he did push

1139
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: some very high quality receivers off the field. They wanted

1140
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: him on the field, but then again, what were they

1141
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: asking him to do? Yeah? Right, right, So you never

1142
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: really do know. And I think free agency might be

1143
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: a good a place where you can sign like a

1144
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: number two guys. I just don't think either the draft

1145
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: or free agency this year you're gonna get a true

1146
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: bona fide number one. Yeah, I might have to I

1147
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: might have to agree with you. I just think you're

1148
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to trade for one. Is he's gonna have

1149
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: to be one of those Thanks for the call, Corey.

1150
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get one of those guys from

1151
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: a team that has got one or got an extra

1152
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: one and see if he can fit your system. Got

1153
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: another your system to him. Got another tweet update, this

1154
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: one from CBS is Jason law canfora who sometimes is

1155
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: throwing stuff up against the wall, but here, he's just

1156
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: putting the Bills in a group of teams in terms

1157
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: of teams that might be interested in Tyrell Williams, the

1158
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: LA Chargers free agent wide receiver. He basically lists Indianapolis, Cleveland,

1159
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: the Jets, and the Bills among those that have been

1160
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: linked as having an interest at least in Tyrrell Williams.

1161
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: He says that Oakland was very interested in Williams before

1162
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: they were able to land Antonio Brown via trade. And

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: I've been corrected on Twitter. I mentioned J. Gaines as

1164
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: an ad to the roster. You know, in previous he

1165
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: was a trade not a free agent. So yes, I

1166
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: stand corrected on that. But my point there still my

1167
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: point there still stands. They look to add a cornerback

1168
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: of some variety in shape with experience in the league

1169
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: that isn't at the very high end of the pay scale,

1170
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: you know, either as depth and if things pan out well,

1171
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: they start you know, EJ. Gaines came in that trade

1172
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Speaker 1: with for Watkins. True, but you know he comes and

1173
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: he ends up starting for them. You know. Levi Wallace

1174
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: was you know, an interesting development, you know, in the

1175
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: second half of the season landing the starting job this

1176
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: past year after Philip Gaines did not work out and

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: we all know what happened in Vonte Davis. But now

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01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, you've got a guy who I think of

1179
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: that cluster of cornerbacks that I just listed, EJ. Gaines,

1180
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Philip Gaines, Vonte Davis, Kevin Johnson is probably the guy

1181
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: who's who's probably the most prove with still enough of

1182
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: a career in front of him. He's only twenty six

1183
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: years old. Fonte Davis came here and there were a

1184
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of miles on the tires, and so many miles

1185
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: that he don't want to rotate his tires anymore. So

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Johnson as a twenty six year old

1187
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: is very low risk, very high reward potential. If in fact,

1188
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: this does come to fruition on Wednesday, it's just being

1189
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: reported by reporters at this point, and it's been reported

1190
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: also the first former first round Houston Texans cornerback Kevin

1191
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: Johnson has been pending assigning with the Buffalo Bills. That's

1192
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: a free agent acquisition for the team that we cover here.

1193
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: That's gonna help, I mean, that's going to give them

1194
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: some more depth back there. Well again, you know we're

1195
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: talking about reducing position emergencies. This helps in that regard

1196
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: because you know, you look at what the roster is

1197
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: and where it's going, and you know they can't. While

1198
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: while the needs clearly lie on the offense side of

1199
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: the ball in terms of upgrades, you know, as you

1200
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: said earlier, you cannot ignore the other side of the

1201
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: ball completely. You you still have holes to plug. If

1202
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity to make an upgrade without eating into

1203
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: your cap all that much, you do it. You do

1204
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: it to make yourself better and depth that corner is

1205
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: something that they did need to do. So if in

1206
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: fact this comes pans out and happens well, then great.

1207
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on One Bills Live, we're

1208
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: covering the free agent market eighth three five fifty. If

1209
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: you want to chime in on two five fifty from

1210
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: outside the Buffalo area, let's take a call from Meryl

1211
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: and Amherst. Meryl, Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on one

1212
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Can you hear us? Yes, Good morning, guys,

1213
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: Good morning, How are you pretty good? I was wondering

1214
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: fifty Payton draft somebody or I don't know how they

1215
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: do it. Get somebody from the aa f H. Who

1216
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: do you suggest it looked like they might be. Who

1217
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: do you suggest, Meryl, do you have a guy in

1218
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: the AF you like or is it just a concept

1219
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: you want to explore. Well, it's kind of a concept.

1220
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: There were a couple of guys off I can't can't

1221
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: give you their name. Well, here's the thing. Here's what

1222
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: you have to remember that the AF is set up

1223
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: for the for the NFL to be able to go

1224
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: in there and do that. Their contracts with the AF

1225
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: are absolutely open ended. If an NFL team sees those

1226
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: guys and wants one, all they gotta do is all

1227
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: they gotta do is pick up the phone and call

1228
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: them and have the guys say yes. So it'll be

1229
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: easy for them to do that. And yeah, you can

1230
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: bet Meryl if you've noticed a guy in the AAF,

1231
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: so have all thirty two of the NFL teams because

1232
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: that's their job. So you're right, there are guys and

1233
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: it is possible if they want to do that. Is

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01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: that answer your question? Yeah? I just wondered if that

1235
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be better than trying to get some of these

1236
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: guys that are the off free agency. Well, here's the thing,

1237
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: Marylyn thank you for the call. I appreciate the difference

1238
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 1: is there's no difference as far as the NFL beat

1239
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: having the guys on the AF roster or having him

1240
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: on the street being a free agent. I mean, if

1241
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gets cut today, he's exactly the same as

1242
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: an AF. Right. I think she's just talking about in

1243
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: terms of cost savings. Oh yeah, sign an AF player,

1244
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: But you know what are you getting right know, you're

1245
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: probably not getting the same caliber of player, which is

1246
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: why you're getting it for less money. So you know,

1247
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: it depends you really got to be sold on somebody

1248
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: in that league to say, yeah, let's bring him in

1249
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: and make him a major part of our offense. That's

1250
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: probably rare. I would say more often than not, players

1251
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: in the AAF they get an opportunity in the NFL,

1252
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: and there probably will be a handful. Are probably players

1253
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: who are going to be numbers forty nine to fifty

1254
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: three on most NFL rosters. Where should the Buffalo Bills

1255
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: go for their number one wide receiver? Should they trade form?

1256
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: Thirty five percent of you think yeah, trade form, thirty

1257
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: nine percent of you said not, just draft him, and

1258
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: twenty six percent say free agency. You can get out

1259
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: on the conversation if you want. Let's take a call

1260
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: from Kevin in Hamburg, and Kevin believes I believe from

1261
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: Hamburg you think that they should just go out and

1262
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: trade for AJ Green. You think AJ Green is going

1263
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: to be available. I don't know, but I like him.

1264
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: And he always knows how to beat us for at

1265
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: least a touchdown. And you know what, most important, guys,

1266
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: he knows how to keep his mouth shut. Unlike Beckham's junior.

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01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: You don't grow tempered hand from how to the ever,

1268
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: and he knows how to keep his He knows how

1269
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: to zip the lip, like my mom would say, Unlike

1270
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: Brown and Beckham Junior. I will say this, He's given

1271
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: tradevious White fits each of the last two years that

1272
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: they faced. Listen, he's good. He is really good. In fact,

1273
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: the Bills. I saw the Cincinnati Bengals, and I think

1274
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: I believe they were playing the Miami Dolphins. I covered

1275
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: the game for CBS. I can't remember exactly, but I

1276
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: do remember this. AJ Green and AJ Green came out

1277
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: of the game with an injury, a slight injury, and

1278
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense changed dramatically. Andy Dalton didn't have anywhere

1279
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: to throw the football. Yeah. J Green is a real player,

1280
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: no question about it. Thanks for the call catcher thirty

1281
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: one right before training can I really don't care. I

1282
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: think the guy's got something to give. Give him a

1283
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: three year deal. I don't care if you guarantee sent five.

1284
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: So you're giving him new money on a trade. Sure,

1285
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what his deals. What's his deals? Got

1286
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: one year left on his deal for the For the Bengals,

1287
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: he's a cap hit of let me see you here

1288
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: looks like fifteen million dollars, which is probably why they're

1289
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: looking to move on from him. I have a strong

1290
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: I have a strong suspicion that Cincinnati could be a

1291
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: prime candidate for tearing it all down and rebuilding it

1292
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: new new head coach, philosophy, new defense. I must have

1293
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: got some aging stars, so I think they are a

1294
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: prime candidate for a for going into rebuild mode. And

1295
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: if that's the case, you know you should do your

1296
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: due diligence. Give the Bengals a phone call, and you know,

1297
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: see if you can pry aj Green out of there.

1298
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, because yeah, you're and the call is right.

1299
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: He's a model citizen. You know he's not one that

1300
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: plays the blame game or goes all out diva as

1301
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: a wide receiver as many of the other top receivers do.

1302
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: So you could do a lot worse than AJ Green.

1303
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: You could do a lot worse. All right, Let's let's

1304
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: see what Tom from New Jersey has to say. Tom,

1305
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: you're on one Bills Live with Steven Brownie. You think

1306
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: they should trade for Mike Evans. Yes, I do. I

1307
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: mean we're over here talking about AJ Green. I think

1308
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: the years might you look at the blow it up

1309
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: over there? Maybe so after a guy like Mike Evan. Listen,

1310
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I think he's untouched. He might be.

1311
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna get it done. Plus, what's

1312
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: the price gonna be? You gotta know what that's gonna

1313
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: be first, and for AJ Green, you gotta think that

1314
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna ask for a number one and

1315
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: maybe you could get away with flip flopping picks if

1316
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: you take if the Bills are at number nine and

1317
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals are below them, which, off the top of

1318
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: my head, I cannot. I do not know where they think, though, Steve,

1319
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: I'd be more inclined to pick up the phone and

1320
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: start calling about trades. After you saw Antonio Brown go

1321
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: for a three and five, as a general manager interested

1322
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: in bringing a receiver in via trade, you can at

1323
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: least start there, right, What do you have to What

1324
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: is this talk about first round picks? Antonio Brown, the

1325
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 1: best receiver in the game, just went for a three

1326
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: and a five. I'm not giving you a one, right,

1327
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think the market

1328
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: has been depressed by what Antonio Brown went for, So

1329
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: why not pick up the phone and see if you

1330
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: can work similar compensation for a player like aj Green. Yeah,

1331
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you, and and and makes sense. Listen,

1332
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: you gotta pick up the phone and call stuff about ones, now, Steve.

1333
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: We gotta drive a hard bargain here. Come on, Well,

1334
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. Though, this is a team that's

1335
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: in a different spot. This is a team that held

1336
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: on us. Carson Palmer was refusing to play for the Bengals,

1337
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: and they got what they get a one or two

1338
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: or two ones for Carson Palmer to go to Arizona.

1339
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. Mike Brown doesn't flinch

1340
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: because he doesn't care where they play, right, he doesn't

1341
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: because he didn't care if the if the if the

1342
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: player says something bad about him, he doesn't care if

1343
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: the league says something bad. I mean, he just doesn't

1344
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: care to talk. I'm just gonna float this out there.

1345
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know anything about any kind of

1346
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: likelihood of the availability of aj Green. But Brandon Bean

1347
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: and Mike Brown have executed a trade before. They did

1348
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: it last year in the Quartery Glenn deal, so it's

1349
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: not unchartered waters. You know, they've done deals before. Just

1350
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: because they know each other's phone number doesn't done a deal,

1351
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But that doesn't mean they're like,

1352
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna get a cut you a break. Well,

1353
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying to cut me a break, but at

1354
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: least they can talk and negotiate a little bit. And

1355
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: you know that they were able to find common ground

1356
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: in the past. So I don't know, should you be

1357
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: encouraged by that? You don't think so, obviously. But here's

1358
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: the thing. You're not gonna flip some what the Bills

1359
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: are at nine, the Bengals are at eleven. I mean

1360
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: that that's nothing for the Bengals to move up two

1361
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: spots unless you get to that draft day and you

1362
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: want a quarterback and they need something and you want

1363
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: a quarterback thing, Well, you know we're here. How about

1364
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: if you slide us a j yeah, three flat straight

1365
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: across go and we'll take your ten. We'll take your

1366
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: number eleven. Pay. I don't think that's gonna I don't

1367
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna hash. You see, that would be great.

1368
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: I like the way you're thinking, so great it ain't

1369
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Likes the way you're thinking. All right, this

1370
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: is good. This is healthy. Step Steve Tasker and Chris

1371
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: Brown on One Bill's Live. Ray heelschild here until three

1372
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: uh to take your calls and take your tweets. Um

1373
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: NFL Free Agency. It feels like it's in full swing,

1374
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: even though the tampering period has only just begun an

1375
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 1: hour and twenty five minutes ago. We're gonna take a

1376
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: break on One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This

1377
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome back

1378
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown.

1379
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: Murph is out sick today. We are in watching over

1380
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: the beginning the embryonic Shall I say, stages of the

1381
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: NFL tampering, lots of stuff going on. I am thank you. Um,

1382
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big boy. That's because I'm sitting in the

1383
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: adult chair today because Murph's out. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

1384
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, like, how's come of your chairs taller than

1385
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: mine too? By the way, I'm not liking that very

1386
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: much anyway. Listen, we all watched. We all watched over

1387
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: the weekend and last Friday as the Antonio Brown saga

1388
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: continued and finally ended up with him landing in in

1389
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: Oakland for the big contract and sending a fifth and

1390
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: a third draft pick back to the Pittsburgh Steelers. One

1391
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,799
Speaker 1: of the guys who covers the Raiders for the Athletic

1392
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. He's spent twelve years covering the

1393
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: National Football League for the San Francisco Chronicle. Vic Tafer

1394
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: is on with Chris Brown and Steve Tasker on One

1395
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Vic, thank you so much for joining us,

1396
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: Steve and Chris. How are you today? How doing really good?

1397
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: What is the early returns on this trade for the Raiders.

1398
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: It's gotta be a little positive at least, right, Oh, definitely,

1399
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: I think after last year here we're kind of drugging

1400
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: the whole thing like that, Oh my god, are gonna

1401
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: overpay for him or we're gonna give up for him?

1402
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: Let's not do it. Then we hurt the price, you know,

1403
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: a third and the fifth round pick for a guy

1404
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: coming out a sixth straight hundred Cats seasons, which is incredible.

1405
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: I think everyone's pretty happy. Yeah, he's had he's had

1406
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: a phenomenal run for the Steelers. Is there any did

1407
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: there is there any like shrugging the shoulders of a like, Listen,

1408
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: we traded Amuri Cooper, we traded Khalil Mack. Is there

1409
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: any you know, hangover from all the deals that they've

1410
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: done to dump guys that well, hey, you know this

1411
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: guy you're bringing, you know, all this stuff you're bringing

1412
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: in your better draft weller is not all going to

1413
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: be meaningless anyway, even with Antonio Brown. Yeah, definitely too

1414
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: looking question if there was a plan and it seems

1415
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: like a weird move to make those trades last year

1416
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: and to give it a clear mac and paying for

1417
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: a thirty one year old receiver and just give turned

1418
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: Brown a lot of money in free agency. So I

1419
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: could definitely understand the question the overall plan. But I

1420
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: think last year is miserable for John Gruden. I think

1421
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: he had a horrible time. He wants to be competitive,

1422
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: he wants to make a flash. He loves s Antonio Brown.

1423
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: That's the kids kind of guy in terms of the

1424
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: offensive dynamic is you know, the star quality so and

1425
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 1: it makes sense from that regard and from one Brown

1426
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: to another, because we've seen the news in the last

1427
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: hour here with Trent Brown apparently the big free agent

1428
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 1: signing for them. Just your thoughts on that. I'm guessing

1429
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: their first round picks gonna have to flip over to

1430
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: right tackle now because Brown's probably gonna play on the

1431
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: left side right, I said, everyone says, but I've made

1432
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: some calls. I'm not sure. I mean, it definitely a

1433
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: strange move. I think Trent Brown's obviously very good as

1434
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: the right tackle for many years to the left tackle

1435
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: last year. It's the highest paid guy. But I mean,

1436
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: just ten days ago, John Gruden saith cold Mill is

1437
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a Pro Bowl left tackle. He's something all

1438
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: the all year last year there and he had a

1439
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: hard time at UCLA. Is switching over asked to switch side,

1440
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not totally solding he have just paid that

1441
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: yere a right tackle left tackle money. So I've made

1442
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: some calls, I haven't I haven't heard back that he's

1443
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: definitely gonna be the left tackle. The offensive line really

1444
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: struggled in Oakland last year and now, and they traded

1445
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: a Colletio assemble to the Jets earlier on just in

1446
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: last day or two. How you know, So you got

1447
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: a left tackle, that's great, but you're into your offensive line.

1448
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: Colletio Assembly to me, played pretty well for two years

1449
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: and he had injury problems last year on an offensive

1450
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 1: line that struggled. Were they smart to get rid of

1451
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: Assemile because he seems to me like he still can

1452
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: play pretty well if he's not injured. Yeah, I think

1453
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: it's still pretty good. I think that for a ten

1454
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: million dollars guards that they won a guy who's down

1455
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: on a player, and he was that point six team

1456
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: flot a little bit twenty seventheen last year injuries. But

1457
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: I think they already paying so much money to interior

1458
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: line Rodney Hudson and gave Jackson, so they kept off

1459
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: three of those guys. Looking at twenty seven million dollars,

1460
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: so US three guys that was gonna high for Gruden's blood.

1461
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: So I just think they can find somebody else they

1462
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: can plug in who'll be ideally solid and a lot

1463
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: cheaper and like you said, to addrest the tackle spots

1464
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: looking at you know what I mean. There's reports out

1465
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: there and this isn't the only time we've seen this

1466
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: um but now it's being reported again about, you know,

1467
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders facing cash flow issues. We've heard this in

1468
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: the past. How nervous should Antonio Brown be about his

1469
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: thirty million guaranteed when you see a report like that?

1470
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: Nine of the cash flow reports are more about From

1471
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: this point, I think definitely I can pay Antonio Brown.

1472
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna give Trent Brown thankful at thirty million dollars guaranteed.

1473
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 1: But I don't think Mark Davis will be as flush

1474
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: as other owners are until next year in Vegas. I

1475
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: think these mappings two big bullets ye had and his guns.

1476
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: I think the rest of free agency maybe a little quieter.

1477
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: I don't see Levan Bell coming up. I just think

1478
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: that they made the two splashes, and I think it'll

1479
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: be a little more controlled as far as what they

1480
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: can spend. Plus, yeah, they have four picks in the

1481
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: top thirty five. So that's a lot of sider camp space,

1482
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: right you hold onto so, I think, and the cash

1483
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: I think is probably gone at this point. Yeah, but

1484
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: we're on the phone with Raiders. Reporter for the Athletic

1485
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. Vic Taffery spent twelve years covering

1486
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: the NFL for the San Francis Go Chronicle. Vic, I

1487
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: gotta tell you ask you this, and this is really

1488
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: for me, the sixty four dollar question about the Raiders

1489
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: last year's draft, now and the trades and the calf

1490
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: moves this year. You've said it kind of it's kind

1491
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 1: of hard to see what is there a plan, a

1492
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: long term plan, or is this just react and go

1493
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. It's hard to see that there's a

1494
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: long term plan. I think John Goren definitely kind of

1495
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: easy to himself tell you he's done all of patients.

1496
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to add patience. But I think

1497
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: you can't really do it. So I think you'll see

1498
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: from the long name moves, from very emotional moves. Antonio

1499
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: Brown definitely is an emotional pick. I've got a value

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01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: with plan I'm getting if you're looking in long terms,

1501
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: So I do again, So I think you're right, I

1502
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: think it's not really a terms of a real set

1503
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: foundation type plan for the future. And and then just

1504
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: with respect Vic, because you said, you know, you think

1505
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: you're intimating at least that there's big spending here. Between

1506
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: the guaranteed money for Antonio Brown and now the reported

1507
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: big money for Trent Brown, you think that from here

1508
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: on out it's probably budget type signings, if any in

1509
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: going forward. Now, yeah, maybe you have enough for like

1510
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: a medium sized defensive type player, like a guy, a

1511
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: big splash guy. But yeah, I don't see them having

1512
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot more money to spend as far as big

1513
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: time free agents now. And I know it's hard to

1514
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: sit here in Oakland and project what's going to happen

1515
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: when they moved to Vegas in twelve fourteen months, sixteen months,

1516
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: twenty months, whatever, How is that? How much are things

1517
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: going to change for the Raiders in a new venue

1518
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,879
Speaker 1: in that new city. Is that going to transform this franchise,

1519
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: because it certainly seems like it could it should. I mean,

1520
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: like we mentioned, Mark, Dale's a lot more cash. I

1521
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: think to the players and agents will look at you know,

1522
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: no sty income tax Las Vegas. I'll be a big

1523
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: factor as far as bringing guys out there, so brand

1524
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: new stadium, I just think it's gonna be a state

1525
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: of the yard kind of organization for once. Has that

1526
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of been laughing stocks for a lot of the

1527
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: last year of ten years. So I think that's just

1528
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: a chance to actually like so they're actually a legit

1529
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: NFL fantast They can make big time moves, all right.

1530
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: Given given this left tackle move, with Trent Brown and

1531
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: the Antonio Brown trade and all the draft picks they

1532
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: have coming up, what is the priority now for the

1533
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: radars as you see it. I know that you know,

1534
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to predict a team that doesn't seem to

1535
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: have a long term plan, and some of the stuff

1536
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: they do catches his off guard. What do you think

1537
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: they need to do? That's gotta be defense? I mean,

1538
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: they were the frantise records for most points allowed last year.

1539
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: They don't have much, you know, all the roster right

1540
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: now and he's thirteen sacks last years. They gotta get

1541
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: at least I would think two pass rushers and it

1542
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: was first four picks to add the Art and key.

1543
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully he makes a big jump this year. But yeah,

1544
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: they the am holes all over the defense. I think

1545
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: they gotta make park gun they're happy, and give them

1546
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: some new toys to play with. Yeah, I mean that's

1547
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: that number four picks gotta probably be for the best

1548
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: pass rusher on the board, doesn't it. Yeah. I think

1549
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: it's a good spot because I think, like the way

1550
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL goes, quarterbacks go way too high.

1551
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: So I think both Mary and Haskins might end up

1552
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: going in the top three. So they're probably got a

1553
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 1: really good player there for a really a stud. The

1554
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: guy can come in and kind of change the defense

1555
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: from Bay one. What are you having? Give us an

1556
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: idea of if you had all the draft picks of

1557
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: the Raiders, do the three ones? I mean, how do

1558
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 1: you think those picks are gonna fall? What position? What

1559
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: side of all? I mean do you think all three

1560
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: go defense? Or do you think somebody, if if maybe

1561
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: a stud offensive skill player drops there, or maybe an

1562
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I mean, how do you think those top

1563
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: three ones? I mean it's unprecedented, man, a team having

1564
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: three ones? How they going to use him? Yeah? I

1565
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: think the best of governing and oath for US good

1566
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: to two US three. Man, If I don't see John

1567
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: John Goon's an offensive coach, obviously seeing big most offensive guys.

1568
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean to Cloe Max, so I'd be hard for

1569
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: me to imagine John three defensive players in the first round.

1570
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: So I think it good you get got to the

1571
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: pass rasher, maybe two hopefully a clearer back me at

1572
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: twenty seven. But I think the other pick will either

1573
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: be a tight end or a receiver, or maybe a

1574
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: lit lineman and maybe get a guard, but I'm thinking

1575
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: receiver or a tighter. A lot of good tight ends.

1576
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: The two Iowa guys. One of those guys falls twenty

1577
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 1: four hours twenty seven. I could you that another toy

1578
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: for Gruden, but I can't seek if they get them

1579
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: three defensive guys in the first round. Name he can't

1580
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: resist those toys. Thank thank you so much. We appreciate it.

1581
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on the phone with us today,

1582
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: and good luck of this season. I hope you have

1583
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: a great year to cover. I vict Tafer from the

1584
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: Athletic the Bay Area spent twelve years covering the National

1585
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 1: Football League for the San Francisco Chronicle. He joined us

1586
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: on the Subway Fresh Take hot line, presented by Subway Restaurants,

1587
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: probably be locally owned and operated subway Eat Fresh. He

1588
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: pretty much said they're done. I mean, yeah, I think

1589
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: so far as Yeah, they may pick up some guys

1590
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: for the veteran minimum or some guy off the scrap

1591
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: heaper for they're not going to make any more splashes,

1592
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: and they're they're probably not going to execute any more

1593
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: trades either, because you know, they want to hold onto

1594
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: the draft capital at this point. If if more trades

1595
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: go like this one with the Steelers did for them,

1596
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: they'll make a ton more trade I mean right, well, yeah,

1597
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: but they might not have any day two or three

1598
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: picks left. No, but they do not giving up those ones.

1599
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean no. I mean maybe if there's a player

1600
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: that they covered in the middle of the first round,

1601
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they give up one of those late

1602
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: ones to get up there and get somebody that they're

1603
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: absolutely in love with that they don't think it's gonna

1604
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: last to its twenty five. But um, you know the

1605
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: money's gone, right, so now it's draft well basically all right, well,

1606
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: all right, so we got all this stuff going on

1607
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: free a Just Step Task along with Chris Brown were

1608
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: in One Bills Live presented by Kalidah Health eight oh

1609
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty if you want to chime in,

1610
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: or eight fifty two five fifty if you're listening somewhere

1611
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: around the world. Uh, let's take a quick phone call

1612
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: from nine and from Nidge Junior in Buffalo. Uh, Nige,

1613
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: go ahead. You're on with Steve and Chris on One

1614
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Hey Steve, Hey Brownie? Hey doing good? How

1615
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: are you doing it all? Great? What's on your mind?

1616
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't want Brownie to go sighting with the Raiders?

1617
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, right, listen, if Browny gets guaranteed

1618
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: from you, just wish the best. Have to be a trade. Hey,

1619
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 1: my comments on Johnson? Why would they sign him? He

1620
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: just left the Jets in the Browns with no deal.

1621
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: He had a broken foot when he was drafted, he

1622
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: knee injury, concussions. Now he's played a total of sixteen

1623
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: games in three years. What do we want? Are you

1624
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: thinking that? I don't know if you're thinking Kevin Johnson. Yeah,

1625
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: he's been with Houston his whole career. Yeah, he's been

1626
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: with Houston his coul career. You're talking about the free

1627
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: agent visits he had that they didn't sign him for

1628
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: or what? Yeah? Okay, the visits, all right, I understand series.

1629
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: He's played sixteen games in three years. Yeah, it might

1630
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: be that he'd picked the Bills and not the Jets

1631
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 1: of those other teams. You may never know the details

1632
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: of that. But here's the thing. They're not. They're not

1633
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: signing him to a sixty seven million dollars guaranteed contract.

1634
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they're getting him for the right price, and

1635
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: he's got all the measurables. A guy can really play

1636
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. And this last you can say what

1637
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: you want about injuries. If he's healthy now, there's no

1638
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: reason to think that and project that he's going to

1639
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: be injured again. I know we all tend to do that.

1640
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: But here's the thing as well. Last year his injury

1641
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: was two quick concussions, quick successions over the course of

1642
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: two or three weeks, so that you know, that caused

1643
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: the team to say, you know what, let's just shut

1644
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: him down. We're gonna be all right, We're not gonna

1645
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: wait on him. So they did that to kind of

1646
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: hang on to him. He wasn't breaking the bank, and

1647
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, they cut him. And here's and here's the

1648
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: thing too, and Steve is right about this. This is

1649
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: not I don't think anybody, any of us are expecting

1650
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: this to be some kind of giant landmark deal. In fact,

1651
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, and the team hasn't confirmed it yet, but

1652
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's one of

1653
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: those one year, prove it type deals. You know, you're

1654
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: coming back from a very serious injury that cost you

1655
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen season. We like you, we want you

1656
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 1: on this roster. Let us give you the opportunity to

1657
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: prove it that you can be a dynamic player in

1658
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: this league. And you know, see where it goes, Nige.

1659
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: Let me let me just write walk this through for you, Nige,

1660
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: and and are you still with us? Okay, here's what

1661
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: walk this through. And it's like kind of like Brownie says,

1662
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: so you you got this guy like Kevin Johnson, a

1663
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: guy a free like Kevin Johnson. He goes to visit

1664
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Bill say, yeah, we like him.

1665
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 1: We got this plan, we've got this defense in place,

1666
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: We've got a place for you to play opposite a

1667
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: really good player, and in some cases maybe you'll compete

1668
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: for the slot, whatever position it is. And Kevin Johnson

1669
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: says great. Then he goes to the Jets, and they say,

1670
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: this is where we think you're gonna play. Here's what

1671
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: you're a backup. Here's the number we're thinking about. Here's

1672
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: what the Bills number is. They're kind of similar, or

1673
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: maybe one's different than the other. And then he goes

1674
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns and it's the same story. Here's

1675
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We'll give you this much money,

1676
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: we'll give you a fewer money or whatever. And then

1677
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: the Bill say, how about this. We'll beat all the

1678
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: numbers you're getting. But you're gonna get a one year

1679
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: deal from us, and you get a chance to prove

1680
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: yourself in the National Football League and then hit the

1681
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: market next year, maybe after you get like six interceptions

1682
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you could make ten million bucks. Right,

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: So that may be at two nidge right. The Bills

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01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: may sign him to a one year did I don't know.

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: We don't know what's gonna happen. We'll find out maybe

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: later what the terms of the deal. Lord, But that's

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Speaker 1: a better That sounds better though, doesn't it. Yeah, Because

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean he was a first round pick. Yeah, I mean,

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01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: and this guy's been improven. I mean, he's proven player.

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01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't. I mean he wasn't the best

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Speaker 1: of a of a bunch down there in Houston. They

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01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: had a lot of first round former I mean, Kareem

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,799
Speaker 1: Jackson was a first round pick. If memory serves, Jonathan

1694
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: Joseph I remember, was the first round pick. I mean,

1695
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: those guys were ahead of him on the depth chart.

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01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: He was a first round pick too. I mean there

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01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: was a boatload of corner talent down there. Now those

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01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: guys are a lot older now, but um, you know,

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01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: he's a guy that still found his way onto the

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01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: field as a rookie, you know, in the slot. During

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01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: this last commercial break, and we got a break here too.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ninch for the call, and we'll continue to talk

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: about this after you get off. But here's what happened

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01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: during this last break. We started talking about Kevin Johnson.

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some we'll print up some stats. When

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01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 1: he plays, he's actually very good. Well, if you're watching

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: any of the film of the highlights we're running on

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: MSG right now, this guy's a physical player. I mean

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: he throws his body around. So the thought is, when

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01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: he plays, he's very good. He's got a lot of

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: measurables because he's a first round draft pick, and that's

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01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: what those guys have. He ex played on a team.

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01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: He played on a team with a lot of first

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01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: round draft picks. It's one of those things where he's

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: a free agent where he was injured and they had

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of really good players, and now he, even

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01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: though he might have been good when he was good,

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01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: became expendable because of the quality of the players around.

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: They're trying to resign Tyrann Matheu right or Tyrann Matthew

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: right now. I always mispronounced that. Um. They're offering him

1721
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: like nine and a half million dollars right now. There's

1722
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: only so many dollars you can invest in your secondary,

1723
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,959
Speaker 1: you know, when you're paying guys like uh DeAndre Hopkins,

1724
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: J J. Watt. They just franchised Jadavion Clowney. They don't

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01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: have enough money to go around to I'm sure they were.

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, they'd love to keep a former

1727
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: first round pick like Hevin Johnson, but they just franchised

1728
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: Jadavion Clowney. They're trying to keep Mathu back in the

1729
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: fold in the secondary. Matthew, I see, I keep doing it.

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01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: I got a mental block with that guy's name, I

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01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: can't do a spelled differently. But well, he's on a

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01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: deep defense that's cash strapped, and he's become expendable because

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: of his injuries. And now that all that sounds positive,

1734
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: he's been great. He's when he's played has been great.

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: The only negative is he's been injured. Right. But here's

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: the other thing that the Bills know that maybe some

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: of the other teams don't know as intimately they have

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01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: a coach on the staff who has coached him for

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: three years. He can tell coach McDermot what you're gonna

1740
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: get out of this guy every single day, week one, two, three,

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: all the way up to seventeen. So that obviously was

1742
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: those reports were good. And so coach Butler talks to

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: coach McDermott and says, look, this is what you're gonna

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01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: get from this kid because I saw it for three years,

1745
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: every single day, and obviously it falls in line with

1746
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: the kind of player that the Bills are looking for.

1747
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: So that is the one advantage that you have in

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01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: this signing, even though this guy has somewhat of an

1749
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: injury history. All right, Steve Task, along with Chris Brown,

1750
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: we're keeping track of the free agent atmosphere around the

1751
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: National Football League. The tampering period has begun. It will

1752
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: end at Wednesday four pm, where the free agent market

1753
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: will start and they'll start signing contracts for real. You're

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01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: listening to One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive presented

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01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: by collid to Health and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Steve Tasker along with

1757
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, we are writing the rodeo of free agents

1758
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: free agency today. The tampering or the open negotiation period

1759
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: between the start of free agency and now has begun.

1760
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: It's at noon today till four pm on Wednesday, and

1761
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: then they can actually start signing the contracts. We asked

1762
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: you where the Buffalo Bills should go to find their

1763
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: number one receiver on Twitter. Thirty nine percent of you

1764
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: say draft him, thirty five percent say trade for him,

1765
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: and twenty six percent say used this free agency period

1766
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: that we were in the midst of the Buffalo Bills

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01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: getting off to a quick start. Today they signed former

1768
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: first round cornerback Kevin Johnson of the Houston Texans. Formerly

1769
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans reported that they're going to sign

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01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: him when he was has been healthy in the National

1771
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: Football League, he has been way above average. He's been

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01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: actually very good. He struggled with injuries in twenty seventeen

1773
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: and then last year missed the entire year with a

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01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: concussion that happened in Week one after suffering a concussion

1775
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: in Week three of the preseason. So he had a

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01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: couple of concussions last year that stacked up on him

1777
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: kept him out of the entire year. They shut him

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01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: down actually very early in the season. They were all

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: set at corner and now they have released him. The

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01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: Bills signed him after a couple of visits to other teams.

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01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson signed by is purported to sign with the

1782
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills coming up very soon. Also this coming down

1783
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: just over the wire. The San Francisco forty nine Ers

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01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: have signed veteran free agent linebacker Quan Alexander to a

1785
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: four Now, this is a guy that was out of

1786
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: the out of the game last year because he was injury.

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01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 1: He was on ir engine ACL injury last year, missed

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01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the entire sea and Kwan Alexander signs a four year

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01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: deal worth or agreed to a four year deal worth

1790
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: fifty four million. Dollars and Brownie, you said it. Who's

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01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: the highest paid if he signs that deal. Who's the

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01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: highest paid inside linebacker in NFL history? Quan Alexander forty

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01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: nine ers. Yeah, over thirteen million a year for a

1794
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: guy coming off in ACL. I mean the money, stupid, folks.

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01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 1: It's well and that's what free agency is. You're bound

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01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: to overpay, especially if you want to be first in line.

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01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, you want to be first in line, or

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01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: if there are other teams in a bidding war, that's

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01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 1: when the numbers get silly. Here's the thing, though, here's

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01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: the thing. It's not stupid if the guy earns it right.

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01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: And Alexander, I mean, believe me, Kwan, Alexander has been

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01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: he can go, super productive player and he can go.

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01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: He is physically the prototype of what you need out

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01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 1: of your linebacker. The ability to cover, you know, run

1805
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: and fill gaps. Still be able to you know, stuff

1806
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: the run to a certain extent. Maybe not the way

1807
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: the old middle linebackers that were two hundred and fifty

1808
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: five pounds do, but you have to be able to

1809
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: stop the run. But more important, you gotta be able

1810
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: to cover. You gotta be a three down guy. You

1811
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: can't be a two down linebacker anymore. And they you know,

1812
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: bring a nickelbacker on the field or a dime guy.

1813
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, you got to. You gotta be able to

1814
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: run and cover, especially these athletic tight ends backs out

1815
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: of the backfield. That's the prototype going forward, um, which

1816
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: is why Tremaine Edmonds for the Bills is you know,

1817
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: going to be such a fit for them because you

1818
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: can run and cover, and so can Matt Milano. So

1819
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: you know, those are the kinds of linebackers you need now.

1820
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: And Kwana Alexander certainly fits that bill. But you know,

1821
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: we've seen you know, and I know ACL repair technology

1822
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: is better than it's ever been. It's almost like a

1823
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: speed bump for these guys. I mean it does. They

1824
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: work hard to get over it. I mean they got

1825
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: as thirteen. That's a lot of it. That's a lot

1826
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: of money. But this guy's you're some of the people

1827
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: who are watching us on msg UH can see some

1828
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: of the plays this guy has made for the Tampa

1829
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. UH. And for those of you listen to

1830
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: us on radio, this guy can really go. When he

1831
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: was healthy, he is a force. So the San Francisco

1832
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers get one of the top available free

1833
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: agent defensive players, uh Kwan Alexander, for four years fifty

1834
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: four million dollars. We're also talking about the entire spectrum.

1835
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: The Raiders are still staying very active. They traded their

1836
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: left guard uh Callici Assembly to the New York Jets

1837
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: for a fifth round draft pick, and also they send

1838
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: their sixth round to the Jets as well, and that's

1839
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: that's already happened. And Brownie, you wrote an article that's

1840
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: on you Can And we also had on the phone

1841
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: Vic Tafer from the Raiders. He's the Raiders reporter for

1842
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: the Athletic in the Bay Area talking about the Raiders,

1843
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: what they did, the Antonio Brown trade, what it meant

1844
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: Tonio Brown and Trent Brown and they're pretty much done, yes,

1845
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: And they're pretty much done. Yeah. But you wrote some

1846
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 1: stuff on Buffalo bills dot com and what Bills fans

1847
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 1: can look for the twenty nineteen free agency period is

1848
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 1: a nice article about, you know, some of the stuff

1849
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: obviously the wide receiver in the offensive line, guys that

1850
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: are going to be and this some of the larger

1851
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: pictures about what position group is going to be really

1852
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: deep in the free agent markets and also some fits

1853
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: that make sense for the Bills, and that's on Buffalo

1854
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Yeah, I mean, safety's a super deep

1855
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: position and it's it's just got even deeper today because

1856
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: the Vikings are letting Andrews and Dajo get to the

1857
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: free agent market as well. I think they declined an

1858
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: option on his contract, so he's going to be out

1859
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: there or either I can't remember if he was an

1860
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: RFA and they didn't tender him. Either way, he's going

1861
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: to be out there and available. So that's another safety

1862
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:35,959
Speaker 1: added to an already deep pool of safety talent. Houston's

1863
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: trying to sign their guy back, the Honey Badger. I'm

1864
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: not even gonna try to say his name because I

1865
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: met I mess up the syllables. You know, Earl Thomas

1866
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: is out there. Landon Collins is out there. Wasn't resigned

1867
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: by the Giants, you know, their former first round pick.

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01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: So there is a boatload of safety talent out there,

1869
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: and I imagine a lot of those guys are going

1870
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 1: to be finding destinations really soon for big money. And

1871
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: then you know you have that second here haha, Clinton Dix,

1872
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of other players of that caliber. And then

1873
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: at receiver. While the outside talent isn't nearly as good

1874
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: as it was last year, the slot talent is deep.

1875
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean Cole Beasley, Adam Humphrey's Golden Tate. You know

1876
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: the kid from Washington who's slipping my mind. No, not

1877
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson. He's an outside guy. Jamison Crowder, thank you,

1878
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: thanks for putting up the list. Guys. But Jamison Crowder

1879
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: another slot guy. So a lot of a glut of

1880
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: slot receiver talent. Randall Cobb another slot guy. So you know,

1881
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of talent there,

1882
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: and those are probably the two deepest areas for free

1883
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: agent talent at this point. All right, we're gonna take

1884
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: a break after they At the top of the hour

1885
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: and just a couple of minutes, Andrew Brandt from the

1886
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback Weekly called I'm also the host of

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01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 1: the Business of Sports podcast, director of the Moored Center

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01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: for Sports Law at Villain Over. One of our favorite guests,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brant's gonna come on talk to us about the

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown trade. Some of the stuff that happened with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in that trade that we talked about

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Speaker 1: at the end of last week. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Stay with us Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio Network scorings up date in Rappaport reported that the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are expected to add free agent cornerback Kevin Johnson.

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Speaker 1: The deal is pending a final review of the contract.

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Speaker 1: Johnson was sixteenth overall pick in the twenty fifteen NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft with the Texans. It has been also been reported

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Speaker 1: that the forty nine Ers are signing linebacker Kwan Alexander

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Speaker 1: to a four year deal. We're fifty four million dollars

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Speaker 1: that includes twenty seven million dollars guaranteed. He missed the

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Speaker 1: entire twenty eighteen season with an ACL injury. According to

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, the Cardinals will release veteran tight end Jermaine

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Speaker 1: Gresham on Thursday for cap reasons. Gresham's cap hit was

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Speaker 1: to be eight point two million in two nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: he had a career low nine catches for the Cards

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Speaker 1: in two eighteen. The Eagles of the Eagles have signed

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle Jason Peters, former Buffalo Bill, to a one

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Speaker 1: year contract for the twenty nineteen season. Peters expected to

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Speaker 1: line up at left tackle for his eleventh season as

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Speaker 1: an Eagle. It's also been reported for former Patriots offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle Trent Brown intends to sign a four year, sixty

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Speaker 1: six million dollar contract with the Raiders. It includes a

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Speaker 1: thirty six point seven five million guaranteed, which would make

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Speaker 1: him the highest paid offensive lineman in NFL history. Just

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Speaker 1: days after being released by the Jaguars, defensive defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: Malik Jackson is expected to sign with the Eagles to

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Speaker 1: a three year deal worth more than thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Jackson's appeared in all sixteen games with ten starts in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and he totaled three and a half sacks.

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Speaker 1: Not twenty four hours after acquiring Antonio Brown, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: have agreed to trade veteran left guard Collecchiossemle and a

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen sixth round pick to the Jets for a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick. The Raiders will save ten point two

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Speaker 1: million dollars on the salary cap with the trade, and

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Speaker 1: defensive end Dante Fowler signed a one year deal with

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Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars with the Rams. Fowler had six starts

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Speaker 1: and eight regular season games with the Rams last year

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Speaker 1: and contributed a pair of sacks and twenty one tackles.

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Speaker 1: You're back with one Bills Live with Steve Tasker and

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. John Murphy's out sick today. We are pleased

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Speaker 1: to be joined on the phone now with the columnists

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Speaker 1: for the Monday Morning Quarterback. The host of the Business

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Speaker 1: of Sports podcast and also the director of the Moread

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Speaker 1: Center for Sports Law at Villanova. One of our favorite

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Speaker 1: guests on the show. Right now, Andrew Brant comes on. Andrew, Stephen, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. How are you today? Doing well? Guys?

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Speaker 1: You know, the business of the NFL's in full tilt.

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting because you know my roles in my

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Speaker 1: past as agent, as team executive and now as analyst.

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Speaker 1: This is the busiest time, you know, it's when the

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Speaker 1: games aren't being played and when the players are off.

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Speaker 1: It's when it's busiest forefront office and agents and business side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and there's no question that it's always there's always a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that maybe at least raise your eyebrows

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Speaker 1: when these things come down, and you're very open to

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Speaker 1: take ownership of it. And I was right there with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought Antonio Brown was not going to go anywhere

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. And not only does he leave, he leaves

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Speaker 1: for a bag of footballs and an entirely new contract.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty an amazing deal that took place from

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Speaker 1: where it started. Yeah, Steve, I mean not listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: owning it. I was wrong, dead wrong. I thought that

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Speaker 1: he would not be traded for a few reasons. One was,

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Speaker 1: as someone who managed the salary cap for ten years,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to take on a twenty one million

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Speaker 1: dollars hit for anyone, right, And it's really their fault

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Speaker 1: for structuring the contract that way. Well, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: their fault. It was feeling like, you know, you make

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Speaker 1: your bed with those kind of contracts. You're stuck. And

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Speaker 1: and then you mentioned the value. To me, the value

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Speaker 1: is really the emblematic part of this deal. Just sort

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Speaker 1: of think step back a minute and say Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: at worst a top five receiver in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: a mid round and a low round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, like, forget even the twenty

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Speaker 1: one million dollars cap hit, right, You're gonna trade him

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Speaker 1: for that? The Steelers must have been they must have

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Speaker 1: been hell bent on trading him no matter, and he

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Speaker 1: must have made it very clear that he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be They were gonna be Levion Bell again. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was just gonna They're gonna be without a star player.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be on the cap anyway. He was never

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Speaker 1: going to come back and play for them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he must have really convinced them that he was done

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. And here's what I don't get, because

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if late twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is so different from what they've known because

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they've kept him around and paid him

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Speaker 1: and renegotiated and build up this twenty one million dead money.

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Speaker 1: And I just can't believe he's that different a guy

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Speaker 1: than when they did all that in twenty sixteen and seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So I just don't get it. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what happened Brown and in their relationship. I think

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Speaker 1: it's too simple and too convenient to blame it on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and his relationship. There's something else going on.

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Speaker 1: We may never find out, but there was real animus

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Speaker 1: between the two sides, and everyone's fleecing everyone's trashing the

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Speaker 1: Steelers for getting fleeced on this deal, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think they're probably sitting in their offices high fiving,

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Speaker 1: like we got rid of them. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: that was goal number one. Whatever it took, whatever it took,

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Speaker 1: let's get him out of here. With that in mind, though, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: do you think it is in the realm of possibility

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Speaker 1: that this deal will prompt other gms perhaps interested in,

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Speaker 1: you know, acquiring a receiver via trade, whether it's Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Jackson or somebody else, to feel inclined to work off

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Speaker 1: of those trade parameters, or do you think that they'll

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Speaker 1: be quickly and resoundingly rejected saying that was an that

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Speaker 1: was a much different circumstance. Yeah, I mean listen that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the right before trade deadline, like a week

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Speaker 1: before it, Cooper went for a one to the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: or from the Raiders to the Cowboys, and we're all

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Speaker 1: sitting here, Santezek in a set a market, of course,

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Speaker 1: not you know, Demeris Thomas goes for like a four

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Speaker 1: and Golden Tate for a three. But look at Golden Take.

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Speaker 1: Golden Take goes for a three with an expiring contract.

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Speaker 1: He's a free agent right now. Yeah, and to think

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Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown just a little bit more than that

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Speaker 1: with three years less on a deal. You know, basically

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Speaker 1: you're saying Antonio Brown's golden Tate and in terms of value,

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Speaker 1: trade value. The impossible part for me is not the

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Speaker 1: impossible part, but the scary part is that Antonio Brown

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Speaker 1: might have set a precedent in today's CBA where if

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Speaker 1: a player wants out and he's willing to do it

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Speaker 1: and he's important enough, or even if he's not important enough, say, listen,

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Speaker 1: you either trade me or that's it and I will

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Speaker 1: sit out or I'm going to be such a problem

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Speaker 1: and then look to hit the jackpot. I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: this opened the door for other players to be just

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Speaker 1: as difficult as Antonio Brown for leverage. Yes, Steve, I've

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Speaker 1: been asked this a lot in the past twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: a lot of different shows, and I guess my answer

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Speaker 1: is we'll see, but I doubt it because listen, this

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Speaker 1: is not the NBA where you know, Anthony Davis can

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Speaker 1: make a whole season spectacle this and demand things. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's so few players that have this kind of leverage

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Speaker 1: in football, and most of them don't have future guarantees.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if it's someone less talented than Antonio Brown,

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Speaker 1: the team just cuts them. You know, they don't care.

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Speaker 1: They have no future guarantees. Brown had no future guarantees.

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Speaker 1: But if he's got value, yeah, I mean you can

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Speaker 1: see players kind of working their work in the system

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Speaker 1: in this way. But you see what he did. He

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Speaker 1: tainted his own value, whether he thinks that was a

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Speaker 1: good thing or not. And here's the other thing, guys,

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Speaker 1: do people really think Antonio Brown's in a better place

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Speaker 1: on a bad team compared to a good team. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he's got more guarantee money, but I need to see

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Speaker 1: that contract because I'm not so sure he does. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe year three he does well, he may not be there,

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Speaker 1: but over the next year or so, I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much different it is. And Andrew Help saying, is the

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Speaker 1: Raiders approach here? I mean, they're obviously dumping salary during

2046
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Speaker 1: the season. You know, they they trade Khalil Mack. You know,

2047
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: they move on from people, and you know Amari Cooper too,

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Speaker 1: and they clear out all this cap space or to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree, and now they've gobbled it all up again.

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Speaker 1: And just two players. You know, if this Trent Brown

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Speaker 1: deal goes through on Wednesday, because we were just talking

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Speaker 1: to a Raiders reporter earlier in the show and he said, yeah,

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01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: they're pretty much done. They're probably just looking at a

2054
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Speaker 1: budget signing or two in free agency the rest of

2055
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 1: the way here. And I know they have a lot

2056
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Speaker 1: of draft capital, but it's almost as if they moved

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Speaker 1: out what they didn't want and then just went and

2058
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Speaker 1: spent that money again. And I just know you coming

2059
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Speaker 1: from you know, your time in Green Bay, that is

2060
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Speaker 1: not the approach up there. I don't want to say

2061
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: it's bad money after bad money, but you know, because

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Speaker 1: the talent is undeniable and Antonio Brown and you know

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown had a nice season last year. What do

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01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: you make of this whole approach just out and back

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01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: in again and money being spent again for a team

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01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: that's reported to have cash flow problems. Well they do.

2067
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Speaker 1: And you know, we're talking about of thirty two NFL teams,

2068
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: including the one I worked for, that has no owner,

2069
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: they have the least wealthy owner. So that is an

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01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: issue with them. And I have no doubt that was

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 1: part of moving Cooper and Mac Now Cooper Mac would

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Speaker 1: have cost a lot more than Brown and Brown, right,

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Speaker 1: So I still think they're kind of in the in

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Speaker 1: the plus. But you know, I always say this about

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Speaker 1: Mark Davis. He's the cash cash poorest owner in the NFL,

2076
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: but he made along with NFL help, he made the

2077
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Speaker 1: best deal in the history of sports, the best deal

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Speaker 1: in the history of sports. He has the Stay eight

2079
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Speaker 1: of Nevada contributing eight hundred million dollars to a stadium.

2080
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Speaker 1: I mean, no one's close to that, No one's even close.

2081
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Speaker 1: So he found the deal of the century literally, And yeah,

2082
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Speaker 1: he's cash poor, but he's not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: play that cash poor very long. Now. One thing I

2084
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 1: got to ask you about this free agent market and

2085
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: how this state of affairs right now. One of the

2086
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,720
Speaker 1: reasons we've gotten to some of the drama in Pittsburgh

2087
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: was it started with Levon Bell and the franchise tag.

2088
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: And you see other guys on this franchise tag. Do

2089
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Speaker 1: you think that's gonna go away in the next CBA?

2090
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Speaker 1: What's the what's the next collective bargaining agreement gonna look like?

2091
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: And how is this free agent market right now that

2092
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: we've just begun gonna change over the next few years

2093
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Speaker 1: with the CBA. If it does indeed change, well, it's

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01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 1: funny because you know, union guys are meeting right now.

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Speaker 1: I keep in touch with a couple of them. They

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Speaker 1: haven't really gotten to the whole you know, ah Tonio

2097
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: Brown kind of discussion. They're just going over the past year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I don't know, Steve. I think that

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Speaker 1: I've said this on your show many times. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it with Goodell and Smith. They're both extended past

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one when this expires. They could be negotiating yesterday, today, tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: any hour year ago, and yet we hear about lockouts

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Speaker 1: and strikes and armageddon. There's no reason for that other

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01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: than they just don't like each other, and that's okay.

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Speaker 1: But they can have other people negotiate. So I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. Maybe it's just pure stubbornness why we don't

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Speaker 1: see this getting together, and then when it does, you know,

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Speaker 1: we can talk a lot more about it. I just

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Speaker 1: think the union's got to decide its priorities. Is it

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Speaker 1: going to be commissioner power. I think no, it's a

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Speaker 1: waste of time. Is it going to be franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: I think no, it's a waste of time. I think

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Speaker 1: issues they should focus on our money. You know, what's

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01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: the split of revenues and what are the revenues because

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01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: the new revenues are going to be the key to

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Speaker 1: the future which and is that mean gambling? What? What

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01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: are the revenue sources that we're gonna be looking at?

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Speaker 1: Those are the key numbers. Yeah, I would agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be I think some of

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Speaker 1: it has to do with the nuts and bolts of

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01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 1: who can go where, who can do anything. But you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think at the core of everything of particularly the

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01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: National Football League, it's going to come down to the

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01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: money and that's going to be the key issue in

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01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: the next up, next negotiation rounds. And that's how you

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01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: see it as well, I do. I mean, listen, I

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01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: I think you know your other part of it was

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01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: free agency, which starts technically Wednesday, but really has already started.

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01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 1: Do you just mentioned the Brown deal. I think it's

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01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: going to be always the same unless something changes, which

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01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 1: is what I say ten to fifteen what I call

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01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: golden ticket winners on Wednesday and Thursday, and then the

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01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: rest is kind of just jumping and then when they

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01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: can to get the money before it ends up. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be robust for long.

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01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: And once we get past this wave of players we're

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01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, with the frontier, it's not going

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01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: to be a robust market. We're talking with Andrew Grant,

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Speaker 1: Monday Morning quarter Andrew Grant, Monday Morning Quarterback columnists, also

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Speaker 1: the Business of Sports podcast host and also the director

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01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: of the Moored Center for Sports Law at Villanova. Andrew,

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01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you how you were at the I

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01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 1: don't know if you were at it or you've you've

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01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: seen the results coming out of the NFL Combine this

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01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 1: last week, and it's always sometimes I guess a question

2146
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 1: is who's gonna be picked first in the draft? Kyler

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 1: Murray's a name that has been thrown around that may

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01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: get there. He kind of won the draft just by

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01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: showing up and measuring five ten. I didn't know the

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01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,759
Speaker 1: bar was going to be that low. But for that position,

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01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: there's a lot still a lot of question marks for him.

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01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: Baseball is still a question. Although he's put it, who's

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01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: pooh pooed it? You brought out a eight point one

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01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:05,639
Speaker 1: of your articles about maybe the Major League Baseball we'll

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01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,759
Speaker 1: come back and say, hey, listen, we'll up our andy

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01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 1: and bring you back to baseball because football is more

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01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: of a risk, or they're not going to make you

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01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,799
Speaker 1: the first player picked. How likely do you think that happens,

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Speaker 1: that baseball will insert itself back into the conversation for

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, I don't know. I mean, I'll say this again.

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Speaker 1: I'm a student of the business of sports, and you know,

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01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: I'm an expert, and I'm just fascinated by this kid

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: because there's no one since Bo Jackson and Dean Sanders

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01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: that has had this leverage. It is amazing for this

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Speaker 1: kid because you know we talk about Eli Manning, I

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01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: want to play as Chargers. Well, you know, do you

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01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: really have a choice though? This kid has a choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this kid has a choice. This kid could say,

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Speaker 1: if I don't go one to the Cardinals, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: He could say that, right, because the thing is we

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01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, he chose football this and that.

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01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he feels that way, but if I'm representing him,

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01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,599
Speaker 1: I know I got the a's, I got the Oakland

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01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: a's in the back pocket, and that is major. Like Wow,

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01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: because they're not going away. So, oh my god, this

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01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 1: kid can control his destiny. He is tremendous leverage that

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Speaker 1: no rookies had because I you know, when I heard

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01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: the football thing, I reached out to people around the

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01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: A's They're like, no, we're not giving up. I'm like, Okay,

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01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 1: that's awesome for him and for Scott Boris. Wow. Yeah,

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01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: last one we've got for you, Andrew. You know, part

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01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: of our Twitter poll today was, you know, asking Bills

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01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 1: fans what's the best way to get their number one

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01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: receiver since it's a glaring hole in their passing game

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01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 1: finishing thirty first and passing each of the last two years.

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01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: And we basically gave him the option of trade for

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,719
Speaker 1: agency and draft and trade is right there with draft.

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: Free agency is third. And I know you've written things

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01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,560
Speaker 1: in the past about, you know, the proliferation of the

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01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 1: trade market in the NFL the last few years, and

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01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, some people attribute it to a new wave

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01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: of gms who are more open to it, but really,

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01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: the financial way this league is, we'ren also kind of

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: caters to it, does it not? Yeah? I think so.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, listen, you're talking to a guy with the

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Speaker 1: Packers that was not active in free agency at all. Buyer,

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01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 1: beware all those kind of things. I know the Bills

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01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: have been more active, and the Bills probably will be

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Speaker 1: more active this week. You know. I just have always

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01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: felt that you build your team through proven resources that

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01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: always get results, and one is draft and trade tends

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01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: to be even more proven results than free agency. I mean,

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01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 1: I look at look at look at the waiver wire,

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01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: the Poets, Malik Jackson, he was the big free agent

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01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: signing two years ago. They are always those cases. And

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01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: I tweeted out somewhat in Jazz that twenty nineteen big

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01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: free agent signings or twenty twenty one cuts right and listen,

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01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: I know I'm conservative, but my question to our GM

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01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: and coach was always why are they not signing him?

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01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, pick a player? Why is their team not

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01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: signing him? What's wrong? What do we not know? So

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01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 1: I always wondered about that. He's Andrew Brant Monday Morning

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01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 1: Quarterback Columnists also hosted the Business of Sports podcast and

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01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: the director of the more Ad Center for Sports Law. Andrew,

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01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on with us. We enjoyed it.

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01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,599
Speaker 1: We hope to have you on again soon. Always a pleasure, Steve.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Andrew Brant appears on one bills live by

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01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Way of the Subway fresh Take hotline, presented by Subway

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01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,599
Speaker 1: Restaurants proud to be locally owned and operated. I always

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01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to him because, like he said, and he

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: said it just off cuff, but he really he's an

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01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 1: expert of the business. Uh the fact that mark market

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01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: to college students, Oh yeah, the he is. He's on it,

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: and he's worked at every level of the upper levels

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01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: of the NFL, and his insight is beyond question. It's

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: been fun to talk with him and get some pretty

2227
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about the current market. But I

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01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: think the interesting that what I take away from it

2229
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: basically is the value system never changes. You're gonna have

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01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: to overpay for some guys, and the and the free

2231
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: agent market usually the value isn't there, but sometimes you

2232
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: get lucky. And he says, if these big, high end

2233
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: free agent signings that you sign this year are the

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01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 1: guys that you cut in twenty twenty one, Well, and

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01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, I can remember for years after Daniel Snyder

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01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: became new the new owner in Washington, I mean, he

2237
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: was only money. He was spending money like water Um

2238
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 1: signing upwards of eight, nine ten free agents in an offseason,

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01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: and sure, from a talent perspective, it looked great on paper,

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Speaker 1: but then you've got the task of blending all that

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01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 1: talent together. That's a lot of new pieces to add

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01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 1: and say make it work, especially in an era now

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01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: where players practice as little as they ever have in

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01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: an off season, let alone during the season in terms

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01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 1: of being padded up. So it's a challenge. That's why

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01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 1: you know Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott with their approach

2247
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: of you know, building through the draft, try to do

2248
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: your best to resign your own. You're never going to

2249
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: resign all of them, but the ones you want to keep,

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01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: you want to be in a cap situation where you

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01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 1: can do that, and that's coming up pretty quick here

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01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: in the next year or so when you're going to

2253
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: be trying to resign players like Tradevious White, like Matt Mulatto,

2254
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 1: like Dion Dawkins from your first draft class, and you've

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01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 1: got to keep yourself in a fiscally responsible position where

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01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to do that, to make those

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01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 1: offers to keep those guys in the fold, because at

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01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: that point in time, those players are now becoming your

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01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: veteran leaders. You know, they're not that now, but two

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01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 1: or three years from now they might be. So keeping

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 1: them in the fold and you know, kind of indoctrinate,

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01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: they know how things operate here under coach every day,

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01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: and so then it just becomes a self fulfilling type

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01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: of thing. I mean, the teams with that kind of

2265
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: continuity in this league are teams like Pittsburgh, you know,

2266
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 1: that don't make changes at the head coaching spot all

2267
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: that often, and you want to. I was gonna bring

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01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 1: this up to Andrew Brant, but we ran out of time.

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01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: Is there another team in NFL football that can plug

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01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: in a new number one receiver better than the Pittsburgh Steelers?

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01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about this list. Plaxico Burris, Santonio Holmes,

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01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, Martavis Well, he was in the number one,

2273
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: but he was there, Hines Ward, you know, and then

2274
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and now who's it gonna be Juju Smith Shoes.

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01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like half a dozen guys a whole

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: another subject, Brownie and I'll want. And that's why the

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01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: guy that's at the core of the problems, that's the guy,

2278
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 1: the guy that right at the core of the controversies

2279
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 1: over there is still there. That's Ben. That guy. Listen.

2280
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about him, he's all

2281
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: he's all the problems he had as a young player,

2282
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 1: the bad experiences fans have had with him, and he's

2283
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 1: not You can say what you want, he's up and

2284
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 1: down whatever. But whatever bad thing you've you can say

2285
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: about Ben Roethlisberger, whatever else has said about him, good

2286
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: or bad, He's at the core of why they can

2287
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: plug guys in a fifth round or like Antonio Brown

2288
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: goes there and he's a number and is the best

2289
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 1: guy in the league. You plug in Mortavious Bryant and

2290
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: they jettison him because they find Juju Smith Schuster wherever.

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01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 1: Whoever Ben Roethlisberger's throwing too in Pittsburgh is gonna have

2292
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: the best years of their career. Antonio Bryant is gonna

2293
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: go out there and Derek Car's a good quarterback to

2294
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is gonna go out to Raiders and he's

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01:57:56,480 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the same guy. You tell you, I will, Oh,

2296
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: something's coming here, I can feel it. You can wager, Oh,

2297
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: how far the drop is gonna be yea, how far

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01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 1: the drop is gonna be. He's not gonna be the

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01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown that he was with a Pittsburgh Steelers. He

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01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: is not gonna be that guy. He might still be

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01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: a hundred catch guy, but he's not gonna be We

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01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: can go on and on about that, and that's really

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01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: the core of why Ben Roethlisberg is still pulling the

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01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: trigger and curious. I want to look and see what

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01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper's best year was. That's at twelve and four year,

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Speaker 1: two years ago with Jack Dale. All right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. One Bill's Live presented by Clyda Health

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01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back after this, Gonna take some calls and

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Speaker 1: keep on rolling with the NFL free agent tampering period.

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Speaker 1: Well underway, Stay with us, One Bill's Live, Coming right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steeve Tasker along with

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01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We're at One Bill's Drive and we're talking

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01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 1: about the free agency period that just opened up. Nobody

2315
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: can sign a real deal until Wednesday. But a lot

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01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,200
Speaker 1: of conversations going on, a lot of things happening and

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01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 1: being agreed to, even though they won't be official until

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 1: four pm on Wednesday. We're also asking you what the

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01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills should do to find their number one receiver.

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01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: We put a Twitter poll out there. You can call

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01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 1: us at eighty eight five fifty two five fifty or

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01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: seven one six eight oh three h five fifty for

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01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: those of you in our listening area. Thirty eight percent

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01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 1: of you think they're just going to draft a guy

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01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: to be the number one receiver. Thirty five percent if

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,760
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna make a trade or think they

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: should make a trade for somebody who's actually on a

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01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: roster and he's actually the number one guy already, I'm

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01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: for it. I am too, and I'm twenty seven percent

2330
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 1: of you think they're gonna do that through free agency.

2331
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: We've been talking to guys around the league. Vic Tafer

2332
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 1: on the Raiders talking about their moves today. The Raiders

2333
01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 1: have been really active in the last four or five days.

2334
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Of course, with Antonio Brown. They also made a trade

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02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 1: with the Jets as well enough so have agreed to

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02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 1: terms with the left tackle, last year's left tackle for

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02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. We also had on the show

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02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Brandt who talked about the atmosphere that we're in

2339
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,480
Speaker 1: right now with the free agent signings, and the Buffalo

2340
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Bills have reportedly agreed to terms with former first round

2341
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 1: cornerback of the Houston Texans Kevin Johnson, who was released

2342
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: last week. Has been traveling around making visits to teams

2343
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: around and the Buffalo Bills looked like they've reached an

2344
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 1: agreement with Kevin Johnson's been reported he hasn't signed yet. Also,

2345
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 1: the Bills reportedly interested in finding out what the deal

2346
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: is with Frank Gore. Maybe he'll be a Buffalo Bill

2347
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 1: on the horizon. All that going on, it's been a

2348
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: really busy day. But we also with the guests that

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02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: we've had on starting really with Vic Tafer who was

2350
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: out in the Bay Area. We asked him about Antonio

2351
02:00:56,040 --> 02:01:00,160
Speaker 1: Brown going to the Raiders. This is a what do

2352
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 1: we learn? Brought to you by No, I'm doing no,

2353
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 1: this is false. Yeah, we're gonna say this, this is

2354
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: what do we learn? What do we learn? This is

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02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: from vict Tafer on Antonio Brown going to the We're

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02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 1: doing true false, Steve, you guys are killing me with this.

2357
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. We're gonna say Yancey's fancies

2358
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: New York's artisans. She's true. False. I'm gonna I'm gonna

2359
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 1: slap Jay when I get back to the control for me.

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02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. NFL true false. The Steelers

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02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 1: wasted one of the NFL's most talented trios of all time.

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02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 1: That would be Levion Bell, Antonio Brown, Ben Roethlisberger. The

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02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: Steelers wasted it? Is that true or false? What do

2364
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 1: you got, Brownie? They didn't win a Super Bowl, So

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02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 1: I say true. I mean, that's that's one of the

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02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 1: best trios you're gonna see. I mean, what do you

2367
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: gotta do? You probably gotta go all the way back

2368
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:55,640
Speaker 1: to Irvin Emmett and Aikman and then Jim Thurman Andre.

2369
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you could go to uh uh Montana

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02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Rice and right, Roger Frank, I mean Manning, uh Manning,

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02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: Harrison and dri and James Ed and James. Yeah, I

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02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 1: mean there are many of that caliber. Steelers wasted it.

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02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I know. I would say false. They

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02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 1: didn't wasted it. The players wasted it. Levion Bell decided

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02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: he didn't want to play, Antonio Brown couldn't be lived with.

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02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg, that's kind of how it was interpreted. Um,

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02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers wasted it. I think those

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02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: three guys blew it up themselves. So I don't think

2379
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 1: it's on the Steelers. I think it's on the players. Yeah, well,

2380
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I was interpreting. And I guess

2381
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have looked at it as a team thing.

2382
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: More is, well, you're you're a novel. They did take

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02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 1: how its red. Either way, it was wasted Steelers, it

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02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: was wasted. Then win the super Bowl. I should have

2385
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl with that kind of NFL true false.

2386
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 1: Number two franchise tag designations limits Bills options for free

2387
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 1: agent pass rushers, and I would say that is true.

2388
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 1: You look at the list of guys that was taken.

2389
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: They were taken off the market. There's absolutely no doubt

2390
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,160
Speaker 1: the Bills would have inquired about all of I'm gotta

2391
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: take a completely different look at this, and because of that,

2392
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false, because I don't think the Bills

2393
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:10,040
Speaker 1: were in the market to buy a pass rusher. They've

2394
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 1: got Jerry Hughes on the roster for one more year

2395
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 1: at I want to say eight plus somewhere around eight

2396
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: million dollars, and I think they're gonna find their pass

2397
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:23,959
Speaker 1: rusher in the draft. It's a deep draft for pass rushers.

2398
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 1: It's a position that you pay a premium for franchise

2399
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 1: tag is upwards of seventeen million a year. I don't

2400
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 1: think the Bills are tremendously interested in paying that kind

2401
02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:36,959
Speaker 1: of price if they think they can get a promising

2402
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 1: young talent in the draft. Again, cheap, cheap rookie labor

2403
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: if you find if you think you can find a

2404
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 1: guy in the draft that can be productive as a rookie,

2405
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 1: especially lining up opposite Jerry Jerry Hughes, I think that's

2406
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 1: the route you go. So I will say false. I'm

2407
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna say true only because it does limit the market

2408
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 1: for those guys. Where the Bills are in that market

2409
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: is a separated once again, your your newness at the

2410
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 1: true False, Well, it's as specifically limit the Bills. Does

2411
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 1: it limit the Bills options? Yes, because it took guys

2412
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 1: off the market. Yeah, I don't think they were in

2413
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 1: the markets. They might not have been, but I do

2414
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: think I think they're big. I think completely different perspective

2415
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 1: on this. I do think they are in the market

2416
02:04:19,160 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: in the draft though they're gonna I think they might

2417
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: try and get a guy like that. Okay, Now, NFL

2418
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: true falls number three last one. Ready, NFL needs more

2419
02:04:26,840 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: player for player trades. And I'm gonna say true on

2420
02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 1: this because even for a guy like like guys like

2421
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: you and me, we track this stuff and we've got this.

2422
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:37,360
Speaker 1: Let me just give you an example, I'm gonna say

2423
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 1: it's true because when you start looking at this like this,

2424
02:04:40,240 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders gave up Khalil Mcamary Cooper for a two thousand,

2425
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:47,480
Speaker 1: nineteen third and fifth rounder and a twenty twenty second

2426
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 1: and sixth rounder in exchange for Antonio Brown for two

2427
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 1: ones in nineteen, a twenty twenty first rounder and a

2428
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 1: two and twenty and a five and twenty. It gets

2429
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:05,040
Speaker 1: confusing and the value of those draft picks is impossible

2430
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: to quantify for the trade that you're trying to make today,

2431
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: and I think more player for player trades would would

2432
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 1: just make that so much easier to understand and so

2433
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: much easier to evaluate. So for us, I'm saying absolutely,

2434
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: I want more trade for player for player trades. I

2435
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: will say true too, just because it's more fun, exactly,

2436
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:25,720
Speaker 1: because it's all about because all of it is known

2437
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: commodities and at the same the reason why I don't

2438
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: think it happens more is because usually the team that

2439
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:36,200
Speaker 1: is moving a player is trying to get money off

2440
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 1: their books and the last thing they want is a

2441
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 1: comparable salary coming right back. And I think that's why

2442
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen more often, because the motives for moving

2443
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:49,480
Speaker 1: a player are usually to give your team cap relief,

2444
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 1: and the last thing they want to do is bring

2445
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 1: it back on their roster. They'd rather get draft choices,

2446
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: where again they know they can get cheap labor on

2447
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 1: a rookie contract. That is NFL true false. Brought to

2448
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancies, New York's Artists and Cheese. Uh,

2449
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 1: well done, Brownie. You did good on your I thought

2450
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 1: you were just criticizing at the end. You had some

2451
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 1: rookie mistakes, but you still acquitted yourself extremely well. Thank

2452
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: you for that and so and also on the Twitter thing,

2453
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: you and I both agree. I think if you're gonna

2454
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: get a guy that's going to do it this year

2455
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:25,120
Speaker 1: as a Number one for the Bills, it's gonna be

2456
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: through trade. You gotta get a guy that that that

2457
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: has something under his hood. And I think the guys

2458
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 1: that make it to the free agent market, there's some

2459
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: big problems. And Andrew Brand our guests last last half hour,

2460
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 1: he said, listen, what's wrong on what's wrong with him?

2461
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 1: Why they ain't they signing him? And that's really the

2462
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 1: question of the day. These guys are out on the

2463
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 1: market for a reason, and one of the reasons is

2464
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: predominantly that the team has got somebody else. Those are

2465
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: the guys I want. I want that somebody else that

2466
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: they're willing to keep, not the guys that they only

2467
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,840
Speaker 1: kick to the curb. Sometimes it is because not the

2468
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:00,879
Speaker 1: only reason, but that signed him to a bad contract.

2469
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: They don't want to renegotiate and they got to move

2470
02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 1: him off the roster because the money. That's the reason. Yeah,

2471
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: but the bad contract because the guy can't live up

2472
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: to it or isn't living up to it. And he

2473
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 1: was signed to that contract after having been able to

2474
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 1: so there's you know, there's an issue with the guy. Yeah. Well,

2475
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean you can look at any of the guys

2476
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: that just signed in the last couple of days. I mean, well,

2477
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: Collecio Simel got traded. He had a fat contract, and

2478
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't feel he was living up to it.

2479
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 1: Plus they wanted to move money out so they could

2480
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:33,000
Speaker 1: bring money in in the form of Antonio Brown and

2481
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: Trent Brown. But Malik Jackson gets clipped by the Jaguars

2482
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 1: because that was an ugly contract that he signed just

2483
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: two years ago. And now he's out on the market again,

2484
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: and he just got signed to another big contract three

2485
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 1: years for thirty millions. So yeah, I mean sure, there

2486
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: are some teams that are you know, they have a

2487
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 1: luxury of riches in terms of roster talent, and they're

2488
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:00,160
Speaker 1: just going to bring the younger, cheaper guy up the

2489
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 1: pipeline and put him into the role that you're going

2490
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 1: to move the veteran guy on for. But there are

2491
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: other circumstances too, Guys with fat contracts that just don't

2492
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 1: fit anymore, Guys caught in a regime change. Hey j Green,

2493
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 1: you want to be on the trademark, So I'm totally serious.

2494
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: I get you a hundred percent. Okay, we're gonna take

2495
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,040
Speaker 1: a call right here before this probably the last call

2496
02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 1: the show. Those phone lines have been jam forever, So

2497
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:23,000
Speaker 1: I apologize for not going on today. There's a lot

2498
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 1: going on Bill from Buffalo. I'm gonna come to you

2499
02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: this my little window here, says Bill. You've been on

2500
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 1: hold for an hour and eighteen minutes. And I apologize

2501
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 1: for that long wait. I don't even know if I

2502
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: stopped talking that you're actually gonna be there. So Bill

2503
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 1: and Buffalo, you say the Bills need to do something significant?

2504
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: Are you still there? Yes? I am. Wow, they do

2505
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: need to do something. So I'm so fired up that

2506
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 1: I stayed on hold this long. Go ahead, get it

2507
02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: off your chest under a Buffalo fan, And I'm so

2508
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:56,040
Speaker 1: sick and tired of this team Nott going out and

2509
02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 1: do getting things done like they need to get things done.

2510
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: Then I had to sit through and listen to the

2511
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 1: Raiders guy and about how they got all of the

2512
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: guys that we needed, you know, an offensive lineman. They

2513
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: went out, got them right away. They went out and

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Speaker 1: got to Antonio Brown when we couldn't. You know, we

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Speaker 1: get this Nickel and Dime signing this this uh guy

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Speaker 1: that couldn't even crack the starting lineup or Houston, you know,

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Speaker 1: another one, another typical Bills signing that we're trying to

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Speaker 1: do it on the cheap, hoping we get lucky roll

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Speaker 1: the dice. Maybe we'll get lucky with this guy. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we will, maybe we won't. You know, now, I hear

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Speaker 1: you take Seeing they're gonna sign l Core or Frank Core,

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Speaker 1: you might as well sign l Cor. Let's not yet.

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Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Bill, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Now, do you think I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about I'm you want to get guys

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Speaker 1: that um you want to make. You're a splash guy

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Speaker 1: in free agency, right, I mean you don't care what

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Speaker 1: you pay these guys. I mean you want a guy

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Speaker 1: that is gonna do it like Mario Williams. No, I

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Speaker 1: hated Mario Williams. Well that was a splash signing. I

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02:09:56,240 --> 02:10:00,080
Speaker 1: mean what it was a terrible signing. I knew that

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Speaker 1: right from again, if they want to do a signing

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Speaker 1: on a Chief, they go out and get Adam Humphreaks.

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Speaker 1: So what what? So? Hold on, Bill? You're talking man?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bill, what one of these free agent signings

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Speaker 1: are you pointing at as being the great one that

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02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: the Bills missed out on? Uh? Well, I'm not saying this.

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Speaker 1: The defense the offensive lineman that the Raiders picked up,

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02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:26,280
Speaker 1: we probably should have picked him up or somebody on offensive.

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02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: Why we need line help. We don't need a washed

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02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 1: a cornerback that can't crack the starting lineup. If we

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02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 1: got Kareem Kareem Jackson from Houston, that would have been

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02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 1: a Hall of a signing. But we got a guy

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02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 1: that never was a starter. He got who concussions last year? Uh,

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02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: you know what happens with these guys are good cussions.

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02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna get one concussion with the Bills and that's

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Speaker 1: the last will ever see of them. Well, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get you. Okay. So here's the thing too, Bill,

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Speaker 1: you gotta remember that the left tackle, uh, Trent Brown

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Speaker 1: who signed with the ray I'm gonna let you go,

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02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 1: who signed with the Raiders. Um or is about to

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02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:02,160
Speaker 1: sign with the Raiders. Just just not for nothing. But

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Speaker 1: he was rated the thirty second best tackle in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last year at left tackle. And he played for

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02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 1: a quarterback and he played seconds. So I mean that's

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02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna make anybody look good. He wasn't anything when he

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02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 1: was in San Francisco before that. Um Now he's going

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Speaker 1: back to the Bay Area, will he revert back to that?

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Speaker 1: We're coming down the stretch on One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: of the Athletic and the Bay Area spoke to us

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Speaker 1: about some of the motivations that he feels were The

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Speaker 1: underlying cause is of John Gruden wanting to get Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown on the Raiders so badly. Here's what he said. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: people can question if there was a plan, and it

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Speaker 1: seems like a weird move to make this trade last

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Speaker 1: year and to give it a clear MAC and paying

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Speaker 1: for a thirty one won the old receiver and just

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Speaker 1: gave turned Brown a lot of money in Bradency. So

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Speaker 1: I can definitely understand you a question the overall plan.

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Speaker 1: But I think last year it was misable for John Gruden.

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Speaker 1: I think he had a horrible time. He wants to

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Speaker 1: be competitive, he wants to make this flash. He loves

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. That's the kids kind of guy terms something

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02:12:32,040 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 1: as the offensive dynamic just the starter quality, so and

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Speaker 1: it makes sense for from that regard. We also had

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Speaker 1: Andrew Brand of the Monday Morning Quarterback on the Business

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Speaker 1: of Sports podcast and the more Head Center for Sports

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Speaker 1: Law at Villanova. We spoke to him about the leverage

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02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 1: that somebody who's not in the NFL actually has. Kyler Murray,

2586
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:55,040
Speaker 1: who could be the overall pick of the National Football

2587
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:57,640
Speaker 1: League Draft in April. He also was a number one

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02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 1: pick for the Oakland A's in Major League Baseball. Here's

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Speaker 1: what Andrew Brent had to say about Kyler Murray's leverage.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing for this kid because this kid has choice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this kid has a choice. This kid could say,

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Speaker 1: if I don't go one to the Cardinals, I'm out.

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02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,440
Speaker 1: He could say that, right, because the thing is we

2594
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:25,960
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, he chose football this and that.

2595
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he feels that way, but if I'm representing him,

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Speaker 1: I know I got the A's, I got the Oakland

2597
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Speaker 1: A's in the back pocket, and that is major, Like wow,

2598
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Speaker 1: because they're not going away. So, oh my god. This

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Speaker 1: kid can control his destiny. He is tremendous leverage that

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Speaker 1: Bill Brownie. A lot going on. Joe flew today, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, it did. Murph will be back hopefully tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: He was a little sick today. I think people were

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Speaker 1: blaming me for getting the root and it wasn't me.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't mean. Maybe Burf will beat back tonight. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for those guys in the back, George Bloss, Jeff Colton, Act,

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Speaker 1: Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, jj Urito, Kevin hart Car, Just

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Speaker 1: James Ruble, and of course Jay Harris, our producer. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. Everybody, Thanks for hanging in there with us,