WEBVTT - #610 Packers Unscripted: Sluggish start

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague West hod Kuwitz. Were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West.

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<v Speaker 1>Week one is in the books for the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not pretty. Thirty eight to three a

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<v Speaker 1>loss to the New Orleans Saints down in Jacksonville, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, ye had not what anybody expected. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the Packers are in bounce back mode right away

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<v Speaker 1>here in Week two, right out of the gate. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not the game I expected in any level. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you don't into spake green Bay coming out league's

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<v Speaker 1>highest scoring offensive two thousand twenty, putting up three points,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with turnovers the way they did. I mean, your

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<v Speaker 1>big line all last week I thought was right on point.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers need to probably be plus two somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>that category with the turnover margin, and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>win the football game. But the bigger thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>think surprised me was just exactly how the Saints played.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we talked all week about Jamis Winston

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<v Speaker 1>and the last time he was a starting quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>the turnovers. One of the things I was touching on

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<v Speaker 1>this week that doesn't get talked about enough is when

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<v Speaker 1>he had the thirty interceptions, which by no means is good,

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<v Speaker 1>he threw six passes. So what do they do in

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<v Speaker 1>this game? They really minimize the mounting passes that he

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing. It was more of a game management type style,

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<v Speaker 1>relying on his feet when the play broke down instead

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to make things happen. And when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Alvin Kamara, that's you. You ride that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And a year ago I talked about it at nauseum.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen catches on fourteen targets this year, twenty carries for

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six yards productive yards, didn't have a big gainer

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<v Speaker 1>had their longest carry was fifteen yards and agreement Packers

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't stop it. Yeah, it felt to me this game.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying in

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out these two plays that the Packers would have

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<v Speaker 1>won the game, but this game, to me, two plays

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<v Speaker 1>turned this from being a competitive game into being a blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>And one was the fourth and seven for the New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans Saints. The scores tend to nothing. New Orleans crosses midfield.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a fourth and seven on I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was the forty one yard line in Green Bay territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Too far to kick a field goal. Didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>punt from there, so Sean Payton decides to go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Packers get a stop there, you get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball back in good field position. You're downten to nothing. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody's nobody's losing any sleep at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But they convert that. They end up finishing the drive.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a busted coverage on the tight end screen there

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<v Speaker 1>on fourth and seven, and they convert that very very easily,

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<v Speaker 1>and they you know, a few plays later there in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone at seventeen to nothing. Then the other play,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is the interception early in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers get a field goal before halftime at seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to three. They get the ball coming out started the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter, march it right down the field, get into

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone inside the ten yard line in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at it. Okay, get a touchdown there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's seventeen to ten. The defense has had some rest

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they settled down still a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ball game to play, more than a quarter and a

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<v Speaker 1>half left to go, but instead of getting into seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to ten, there's a pressure breakdown on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Aaron Rodgers tries to force it on

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<v Speaker 1>second down as Adams is crossing the throws behind him,

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<v Speaker 1>it's picked off. You all know the rest. Those two

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<v Speaker 1>plays really turned this from being what I think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>expected to be a competitive game into being a blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Packers just never recovered from from that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's too much yarn coming off the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get it back together at that point. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll turn I'll start with this then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the turnovers and the interception everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>that second quarter series is the one that stands out

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<v Speaker 1>to me the most because I remember you and I

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<v Speaker 1>are watching this game back at lambeau Field on television,

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<v Speaker 1>and they decided to run it there, I believe. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was the six yard run by Tomorrow, Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was third. It was third and long from Green

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<v Speaker 1>base and I kind of figured what they were doing there.

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<v Speaker 1>It made sense because it was a situation which you

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<v Speaker 1>get stopped well then you just punt it. Right. If

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<v Speaker 1>you get some yards out of it and it's manageable,

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<v Speaker 1>well then you have the option to either age still

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<v Speaker 1>punt it, you know and try to you know, pin

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<v Speaker 1>them back, or you know, go for it. In that case,

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<v Speaker 1>green Bay just couldn't get off the field defensively. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when you look at the third downs, five of

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<v Speaker 1>ten the Saints were on conversions, and then five of

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<v Speaker 1>those that they didn't convert on third down they got

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<v Speaker 1>on fourth down. Then they get inside the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>four or four. Those type of numbers, you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to overcome that kind of that deficit,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what everything else is. And because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way the Saints played that first half twenty two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to eight minutes basically in time of possession, rounding out

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<v Speaker 1>some numbers, green Bay led the league I think last

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<v Speaker 1>year in time of possession. Again, stacking the deck against yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>All that being said, Matt Floor even talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, or it was after the game, I forget,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, they still kind of counted themselves lucky

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<v Speaker 1>that they were able to go in a halftime only

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<v Speaker 1>down two scores. After there was a two score at

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<v Speaker 1>for everything that had gone wrong, it was a two

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<v Speaker 1>score game. And you're getting the ball coming out start

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<v Speaker 1>of the third quarter, and they did exactly what they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do, except they didn't get the ball in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone and they turned it over in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone instead. Yeah, and they made their biggest offensive

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<v Speaker 1>play of the day, a beautiful throw, a beautiful catch

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<v Speaker 1>by Davante Adams gets Mason Crosby and scoring range. He

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<v Speaker 1>ends up making the thirty nine yard or you come

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<v Speaker 1>out a halftime feeling good about yourselves. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>most momentum, most rhythm we saw with the offense coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the break. But when you get into the

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<v Speaker 1>red area, Mike, we talked so much about Rogers and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't throw pick six? Is he really is not

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that throws the interceptions deep inside the opposing teams,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scoring territory. It happened there in From that

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<v Speaker 1>point on, it just seemed like the air, too much

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<v Speaker 1>air had been let out of the balloon at that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the as you said in Insider Inbox, the Packers will

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty of opportunities here to prove that this game

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<v Speaker 1>was was an anomaly the to just see how out

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<v Speaker 1>of character it is. Two key statistics. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on our on our show last week with the

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<v Speaker 1>Keys to Victory. The Packers were second in the league

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<v Speaker 1>last year in third down efficiency. They were the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the league and historically one of the best teams

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<v Speaker 1>ever in the red zone. And what happens. Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get a single third down conversion the entire game

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<v Speaker 1>that he's in at quarterback, and the first time on

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<v Speaker 1>the season that they're in the red zone, they not

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<v Speaker 1>only don't get a touchdown, they turned the ball over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's just not the way the Packers played

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<v Speaker 1>football in at all. So on the defensive side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it, the third down efficiency, the fourth down efficiency,

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone. The Saints got two touchdowns off of

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<v Speaker 1>very very short fields, one off of the long interception returned,

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<v Speaker 1>the other one of failed fourth down, so basically two

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<v Speaker 1>red zone possessions to start and and they converted those

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<v Speaker 1>into touchdowns. But early in the game, especially on those

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<v Speaker 1>two long touchdown drives, the Packers defense had opportunities to

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<v Speaker 1>get off the field. There were third downs, there were

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<v Speaker 1>fourth downs, and they just they they did not take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of those opportunities. Jamis Winston scrambled away on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on a I talked about that last week as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to you have to be careful how

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<v Speaker 1>you rush these guys, you know, these guys with the legs,

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<v Speaker 1>that that can hurt you. He had thirty six yards rushing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it within the first couple of drives of

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<v Speaker 1>the football game. And you know, I felt that completely

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<v Speaker 1>put the Packers defense on their heels the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And then and then we saw other times

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<v Speaker 1>he's going back there and sitting back there in the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket because the Packers weren't coming after him because he

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<v Speaker 1>had burned him with with with the legs and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just it was it was a snowball that

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<v Speaker 1>started going downhill the Packers. The Packers couldn't stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and unfortunately the game just got completely out

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<v Speaker 1>of hand. Yeah, we talked about it. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a different type of challenge, as difficult

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<v Speaker 1>as it was playing Drew Brees for the past twelve

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<v Speaker 1>of years or whatever it came out to be. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was more like this going up against Jamis Winston.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything gets basically put on its head a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy has a big home run type arm. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw them that Deonte Harris fifty five yard touchdown when

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<v Speaker 1>they finally did go for the ball down field at

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<v Speaker 1>the same exact moment that I think I even mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you as we're watching the game, man, he only has

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three passing yards so far, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>literally the next play. But but realistically, Mike, the two

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<v Speaker 1>areas other than those statistics I reeled off because those

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<v Speaker 1>are really the most telling, it's the most important of all.

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<v Speaker 1>But the two areas where I thought green Bay lost

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<v Speaker 1>this game was New Orleans dominated him in the run game,

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<v Speaker 1>offensive and defense of being able to stop green Bays run,

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<v Speaker 1>knocking him out of that rhythm. You mentioned how uncharacteristic

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<v Speaker 1>some of the mental mistakes were that Green Bay had.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also on characteristic. They just couldn't get any

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<v Speaker 1>of their typical offense going in that early going. And

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<v Speaker 1>then conversely, I talked about Chima, but I mean talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Tony Jones Jr. Being a guy that was a

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<v Speaker 1>really steady, complimentary presence to him, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to get a hundred forty rushing yards

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, thanks in part also to Winston

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<v Speaker 1>in a hundred and seventy yards for the game. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying this over and over again, but they dictated

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<v Speaker 1>the terms in which this game was going to be played.

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<v Speaker 1>They used the Jacksonville It was a different type of environment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they wore green Bay down and ultimately I just

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<v Speaker 1>think kind of, you know, demoralize them in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So the big key for green Bay this week is

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Floor discussed and I really appreciate Aaron Rodgers comments

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<v Speaker 1>afterwards as well. I mean he said we played bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I played bad. It really is that simple. The goal now,

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<v Speaker 1>as Davante Adams tweeted with flush it and respond, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Detroit coming in here next week. Now you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what happened in these first two days of

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<v Speaker 1>the week, make those corrections, and then reset, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers got a huge gift in the fact the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>North all ended up coming up empty this weekend. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got a divisional opponent coming into your house

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to hold serve. Yeah. Absolutely, um. Some

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<v Speaker 1>situations to talk about here with the Packers. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that tight end Josiah Deguar is in the concussion protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>He was down on the field for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone thankful that he was able to get up and

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<v Speaker 1>walk off the field, Matt Lafleur saying on Monday that

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<v Speaker 1>he's definitely in a better place than he was on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is very good to hear. But he is

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<v Speaker 1>in the concussion protocol and we will just have to

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Darnell Savage left the game in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half with a shoulder injury. Matt Lafleur does not

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<v Speaker 1>believe it is a long term issue at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>even suggested that with the extra day with the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>not playing until Monday night, that that might be enough

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<v Speaker 1>time for Darnell Savage to even get back on the

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<v Speaker 1>field here in week two, and then Zadarius Smith. He

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<v Speaker 1>went into the game questionable. He only practiced once during

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, ended up playing eighteen snaps. Apparently came out

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<v Speaker 1>of it no worse for where um health wise. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he has a little bit of an objection to

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<v Speaker 1>that flag, that flag that was thrown on the roughing

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<v Speaker 1>the passer. I don't want to go off on a

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<v Speaker 1>big tangent here West, but I just have to say, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying it for years. The NFL puts in

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<v Speaker 1>all these safety rules, and I get it, I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying there's a problem with the safety rules.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're gonna put all the safety rules in,

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<v Speaker 1>why aren't you going to use replay to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get the calls right? Because he didn't hit him high,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't hit him low, he didn't land with his

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<v Speaker 1>body weight on him, he didn't hit him late. He

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<v Speaker 1>hit him hard. Yes, he hit him hard, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looked bad. So they throw a flag because it looked bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at it on the replay, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't break a rule. The safety rules are in place,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't break a rule. So you can't just throw

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<v Speaker 1>a flag because it looked bad. I just I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty four to three. I still don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the game is over at that point. Necessarily, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>probably are not going to win the game. But what

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<v Speaker 1>if that call happens when it's one and you wipe

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<v Speaker 1>out an interception by a defense in the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>on a call like that, I mean, come on, NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>make the safety rules reviewable on replay. It's simple, it's simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Just if the rules are that important, then make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you get the calls right. Alright? That all right, I'm done,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, you're right. The thing I'm actually most grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for on that play was that Jamis Winston threw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball because I still feel like that flag is probably

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<v Speaker 1>getting thrown even if he sacks him. I really believe that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you no, you're you're absolutely The referee was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>one thing and one thing only. Well, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>his job. He's he that referee is back there to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the quarterback Monday night, raw is what he was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at. He was looking at how that quarterback is

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<v Speaker 1>going back. I give Jamis a lot of credit. His

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<v Speaker 1>head whipped back like he just got into a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Accident and that there was no contact to the head

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Right, that's the thing. His head whipped back

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<v Speaker 1>because of the power of the hit. But Zadarius Smith

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<v Speaker 1>did not break a rule. And then because it because

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<v Speaker 1>it looked bad, because it looked bad, he throws the flag.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why. And I don't I don't blame the

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<v Speaker 1>official that that's what That's what I want people to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't blame the official for throwing the flag because

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like roughing the past, but it wasn't. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at the replay, make sure you get the call right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the NFL refuses to do that, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the fact of the matter is I actually

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<v Speaker 1>got really fired up watching the game too, because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>will always say, well, then the games get too long,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're doing all these reviews. And my only,

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<v Speaker 1>my only counter to that then is okay, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the emphasis then, because we're all about emphasis is in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. You know, God forbid that I celebrate while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm directly you know, across from where as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>my body being turned this way. That's an issue, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty that could get me ejected. Right, but God forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if that's the emphasis and that's where hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be able to review these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it is on the referees to get this right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is their job to get it right, whether they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the position, whether that means adding another guy somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the stadium that is looking from a different perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>only focused on that quarterback. That's something the NFL has

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out because my biggest issue. Let's say the

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<v Speaker 1>game doesn't turn around. Let's say the Packers do still

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<v Speaker 1>loset to ten or whatever. We saw this happen with

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<v Speaker 1>JayR Alexander two years three years ago. It cost him

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<v Speaker 1>an interception. In this day and age, it's not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to play defense, and it's not easy to generate turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>If a guy gets a takeaway, he should be rewarded

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<v Speaker 1>for it if the play was clean, unacceptable. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for indulge you, but I apologize. I will.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. Good to see Darius Smith. From

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<v Speaker 1>a health perspective, it sounds like, no question, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge thing for this defense because they're gonna need them,

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<v Speaker 1>no question about it. Absolutely. You mentioned it before the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC North took a goose again. Week one, the the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings go into Cincinnati and lose in overtime. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>they were in my opinion, they were lucky to get

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<v Speaker 1>it to overtime in the first place. I think Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>made made some really questionable decisions when they had a

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<v Speaker 1>two score lead there in the second half. But that aside,

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota was then in position maybe five six seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>away from being able to kick a field goal win

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<v Speaker 1>that game, and overtime Dalvin Cook fumbles the ball, Cincinnati recovers,

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<v Speaker 1>they get in position and kick a walk off as

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<v Speaker 1>the overtime clock expires. So Minnesota is oh and one.

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<v Speaker 1>That the Chicago Bears hang with the l A Rams

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<v Speaker 1>for a while there on Sunday Night. I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a fourteen game there in the second half. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams pull away at the end win by twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bears are oh on one. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers opponent here coming up in Week two, Monday Night Football,

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions. They fall behind big time. They're down

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<v Speaker 1>with I don't know, four or five minutes left in

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and suddenly they get this big rally going.

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<v Speaker 1>They score and get a two. They recover an onside kick,

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<v Speaker 1>they score again, get another two point conversion. Suddenly a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four point deficit is an eight point deficit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>forty one to thirty three. And then the Niners have

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<v Speaker 1>the game put away on a completed pass on a

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<v Speaker 1>third down conversion and they fumble the ball. Detroit gets

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<v Speaker 1>it back and they actually get within twenty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>of that potential game tying touchdown, but they fall to

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<v Speaker 1>the forty ninerst to thirty three. But we saw that's

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions team that showed a lot of fight

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<v Speaker 1>in a game that they were getting. They were getting

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<v Speaker 1>it handed to him for three and a half quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the Detroit. The fighting Detroit Lions are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be here at lambeau Field come Monday night. Yeah. We

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about teams taking on the mantra and the

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<v Speaker 1>mentality of their coach, and I thought you saw that

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<v Speaker 1>this game with the Lions, because I was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that left them for dead. In this game,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff gets off to a slow start. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure what the running game is. Jamal Williams had

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<v Speaker 1>a great game, but DeAndre Swift is sort of their ace.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the guy they've been working on being the lead back,

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<v Speaker 1>and and here's you know, Jamal kind of coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. All that being said, I really don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to make heads or tails out of that first

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<v Speaker 1>week for the NFC North, whether it's the Packers, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Vikings and the Lions, the Bears. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you saw that they're they're kind of far away from

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<v Speaker 1>where I think where they need to be and where

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be. I think they have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out that quarterback situation first and then start to let

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<v Speaker 1>the dominance. And there, and and and they were. They

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<v Speaker 1>were behind the eight ball in some respects to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the new stadium out there in l A,

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<v Speaker 1>which did not have any fans last year, Suddenly it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first game where those l A fans get to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the place and it's Sunday night football in primetime.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a tough way to open your season.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said, they did hang with them into

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<v Speaker 1>the second half there. It was a one score game

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<v Speaker 1>him for a while, but ultimately the Rams took control

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretching for him away. I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>harder time figuring out I mean, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it's gonna come down to us trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how good the Cincinnati Bengals are. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody in the NFC North has to play him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vikings were the first one to play him, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else is going to get a shot at him.

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<v Speaker 1>To Joe Burrow's legit. If he can stay healthy, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna give a lot of teams problems. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's some questions with their defense there, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, that's been the way this thing's gone for them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a lot of ups and downs, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you're up and down too much, you end up at

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<v Speaker 1>that seven and nine, eight and eight level. So some

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<v Speaker 1>questions that Mike Zimmers group has to answer. But getting

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<v Speaker 1>bringing it back to Detroit to close this thing up,

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<v Speaker 1>they showed a lot of heart, they showed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of desire and I still you know, they lost Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Acuda this week, so that's gonna be a big loss

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<v Speaker 1>for them for the season. Young cornerback that had a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic camp and looked like he was making the strides

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to after a rough rookie year. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to rally the troops, but they present a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues, Mike, you know, with t J Hockenson

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<v Speaker 1>kind of coming on. Certainly the two headed Ackfield um

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<v Speaker 1>and Jared Goff has been there, done that, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come in wanting to be you know, find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to come in and upend the Green Bay. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that Matt Floor is gonna have to have

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<v Speaker 1>these guys ready for. Yeah, well, the first NFC North

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<v Speaker 1>matchup of one, it's already here in week two. With that,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.