1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West hod Kuwitz. Were coming to 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Week one is in the books for the Green Bay Packers, 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and it was not pretty. Thirty eight to three a 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: loss to the New Orleans Saints down in Jacksonville, Florida, 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: and uh, ye had not what anybody expected. And uh 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: essentially the Packers are in bounce back mode right away 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: here in Week two, right out of the gate. Definitely 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: not the game I expected in any level. I mean, 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: obviously you don't into spake green Bay coming out league's 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: highest scoring offensive two thousand twenty, putting up three points, 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: struggling with turnovers the way they did. I mean, your 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: big line all last week I thought was right on point. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: The Packers need to probably be plus two somewhere in 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: that category with the turnover margin, and I think they 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: win the football game. But the bigger thing that I 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: think surprised me was just exactly how the Saints played. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked all week about Jamis Winston 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and the last time he was a starting quarterback and 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: the turnovers. One of the things I was touching on 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: this week that doesn't get talked about enough is when 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: he had the thirty interceptions, which by no means is good, 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: he threw six passes. So what do they do in 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: this game? They really minimize the mounting passes that he 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: was throwing. It was more of a game management type style, 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: relying on his feet when the play broke down instead 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: of trying to make things happen. And when you have 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: a guy like Alvin Kamara, that's you. You ride that guy. 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: And a year ago I talked about it at nauseum. 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Thirteen catches on fourteen targets this year, twenty carries for 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: eighty six yards productive yards, didn't have a big gainer 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: had their longest carry was fifteen yards and agreement Packers 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: just couldn't stop it. Yeah, it felt to me this game. 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying in 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: pointing out these two plays that the Packers would have 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: won the game, but this game, to me, two plays 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: turned this from being a competitive game into being a blowout. 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: And one was the fourth and seven for the New 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. The scores tend to nothing. New Orleans crosses midfield. 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: They have a fourth and seven on I believe it 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 1: was the forty one yard line in Green Bay territory. 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Too far to kick a field goal. Didn't want to 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: punt from there, so Sean Payton decides to go for it. 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: If the Packers get a stop there, you get the 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: ball back in good field position. You're downten to nothing. Uh, 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, nobody's nobody's losing any sleep at this point. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: But they convert that. They end up finishing the drive. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: There's a busted coverage on the tight end screen there 51 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: on fourth and seven, and they convert that very very easily, 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: and they you know, a few plays later there in 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: the end zone at seventeen to nothing. Then the other play, 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: of course, is the interception early in the third quarter. 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: The Packers get a field goal before halftime at seventeen 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to three. They get the ball coming out started the 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: third quarter, march it right down the field, get into 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: the red zone inside the ten yard line in fact, 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: and you're looking at it. Okay, get a touchdown there. 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: It's seventeen to ten. The defense has had some rest 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: to see if they settled down still a lot of 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: ball game to play, more than a quarter and a 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: half left to go, but instead of getting into seventeen 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: to ten, there's a pressure breakdown on both sides of 65 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Aaron Rodgers tries to force it on 66 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: second down as Adams is crossing the throws behind him, 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: it's picked off. You all know the rest. Those two 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: plays really turned this from being what I think everybody 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: expected to be a competitive game into being a blowout. 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: And the Packers just never recovered from from that. Yeah, 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: and it's just it's too much yarn coming off the ball. 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: You can't get it back together at that point. And 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'll turn I'll start with this then we'll 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the turnovers and the interception everything. But 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: that second quarter series is the one that stands out 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: to me the most because I remember you and I 77 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: are watching this game back at lambeau Field on television, 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and they decided to run it there, I believe. Yeah 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: it was the six yard run by Tomorrow, Yeah it was. 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: It was third. It was third and long from Green 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: base and I kind of figured what they were doing there. 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: It made sense because it was a situation which you 83 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: get stopped well then you just punt it. Right. If 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: you get some yards out of it and it's manageable, 85 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: well then you have the option to either age still 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: punt it, you know and try to you know, pin 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: them back, or you know, go for it. In that case, 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: green Bay just couldn't get off the field defensively. I 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: mean when you look at the third downs, five of 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: ten the Saints were on conversions, and then five of 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: those that they didn't convert on third down they got 92 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: on fourth down. Then they get inside the red zone 93 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: four or four. Those type of numbers, you're just not 94 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to overcome that kind of that deficit, 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: regardless of what everything else is. And because of the 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: way the Saints played that first half twenty two minutes 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: to eight minutes basically in time of possession, rounding out 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: some numbers, green Bay led the league I think last 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: year in time of possession. Again, stacking the deck against yourself. 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: All that being said, Matt Floor even talked about it 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: on Monday, or it was after the game, I forget, 102 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: but you know, they still kind of counted themselves lucky 103 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: that they were able to go in a halftime only 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: down two scores. After there was a two score at 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: for everything that had gone wrong, it was a two 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: score game. And you're getting the ball coming out start 107 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: of the third quarter, and they did exactly what they 108 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: wanted to do, except they didn't get the ball in 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the end zone and they turned it over in the 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: red zone instead. Yeah, and they made their biggest offensive 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: play of the day, a beautiful throw, a beautiful catch 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: by Davante Adams gets Mason Crosby and scoring range. He 113 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: ends up making the thirty nine yard or you come 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: out a halftime feeling good about yourselves. That was the 115 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: most momentum, most rhythm we saw with the offense coming 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: out of the break. But when you get into the 117 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: red area, Mike, we talked so much about Rogers and 118 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw pick six? Is he really is not 119 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: a guy that throws the interceptions deep inside the opposing teams, 120 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, scoring territory. It happened there in From that 121 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: point on, it just seemed like the air, too much 122 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: air had been let out of the balloon at that point. Yeah, 123 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: the as you said in Insider Inbox, the Packers will 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: have plenty of opportunities here to prove that this game 125 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: was was an anomaly the to just see how out 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: of character it is. Two key statistics. We talked about 127 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: it on our on our show last week with the 128 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Keys to Victory. The Packers were second in the league 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: last year in third down efficiency. They were the best 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: in the league and historically one of the best teams 131 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: ever in the red zone. And what happens. Aaron Rodgers 132 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: doesn't get a single third down conversion the entire game 133 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: that he's in at quarterback, and the first time on 134 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: the season that they're in the red zone, they not 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: only don't get a touchdown, they turned the ball over. 136 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: You know, that's just not the way the Packers played 137 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: football in at all. So on the defensive side of things, 138 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, the third down efficiency, the fourth down efficiency, 139 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: the red zone. The Saints got two touchdowns off of 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: very very short fields, one off of the long interception returned, 141 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: the other one of failed fourth down, so basically two 142 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: red zone possessions to start and and they converted those 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: into touchdowns. But early in the game, especially on those 144 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: two long touchdown drives, the Packers defense had opportunities to 145 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: get off the field. There were third downs, there were 146 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: fourth downs, and they just they they did not take 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: advantage of those opportunities. Jamis Winston scrambled away on you know, 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: on a I talked about that last week as well, 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: that you have to you have to be careful how 150 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: you rush these guys, you know, these guys with the legs, 151 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: that that can hurt you. He had thirty six yards rushing, 152 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: you know it within the first couple of drives of 153 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: the football game. And you know, I felt that completely 154 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: put the Packers defense on their heels the rest of 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: the time. And then and then we saw other times 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: he's going back there and sitting back there in the 157 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: pocket because the Packers weren't coming after him because he 158 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: had burned him with with with the legs and all that. 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: So it just it was it was a snowball that 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: started going downhill the Packers. The Packers couldn't stop it, 161 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: and uh and unfortunately the game just got completely out 162 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: of hand. Yeah, we talked about it. I mean, it 163 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: was gonna be a different type of challenge, as difficult 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: as it was playing Drew Brees for the past twelve 165 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: of years or whatever it came out to be. Um, 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Actually it was more like this going up against Jamis Winston. 167 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: Everything gets basically put on its head a little bit. 168 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: This guy has a big home run type arm. You 169 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: saw them that Deonte Harris fifty five yard touchdown when 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: they finally did go for the ball down field at 171 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the same exact moment that I think I even mentioned 172 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: you as we're watching the game, man, he only has 173 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: ninety three passing yards so far, and it was like 174 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: literally the next play. But but realistically, Mike, the two 175 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: areas other than those statistics I reeled off because those 176 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: are really the most telling, it's the most important of all. 177 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: But the two areas where I thought green Bay lost 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: this game was New Orleans dominated him in the run game, 179 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: offensive and defense of being able to stop green Bays run, 180 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: knocking him out of that rhythm. You mentioned how uncharacteristic 181 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: some of the mental mistakes were that Green Bay had. 182 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: It was also on characteristic. They just couldn't get any 183 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: of their typical offense going in that early going. And 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: then conversely, I talked about Chima, but I mean talk 185 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: about Tony Jones Jr. Being a guy that was a 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: really steady, complimentary presence to him, and the fact that 187 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: they were able to get a hundred forty rushing yards 188 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: in the first half, thanks in part also to Winston 189 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: in a hundred and seventy yards for the game. I 190 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: keep saying this over and over again, but they dictated 191 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: the terms in which this game was going to be played. 192 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: They used the Jacksonville It was a different type of environment, 193 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: but they wore green Bay down and ultimately I just 194 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: think kind of, you know, demoralize them in some ways. 195 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: So the big key for green Bay this week is 196 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: Matt Floor discussed and I really appreciate Aaron Rodgers comments 197 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: afterwards as well. I mean he said we played bad. 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: I played bad. It really is that simple. The goal now, 199 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: as Davante Adams tweeted with flush it and respond, you 200 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: got Detroit coming in here next week. Now you gotta 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: figure out what happened in these first two days of 202 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: the week, make those corrections, and then reset, because the 203 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: Packers got a huge gift in the fact the NFC 204 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: North all ended up coming up empty this weekend. But 205 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: now you've got a divisional opponent coming into your house 206 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: and you have to hold serve. Yeah. Absolutely, um. Some 207 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: shout out to our sponsors. 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One is 215 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: that tight end Josiah Deguar is in the concussion protocol. 216 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: He was down on the field for quite a while. 217 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: Everyone thankful that he was able to get up and 218 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: walk off the field, Matt Lafleur saying on Monday that 219 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: he's definitely in a better place than he was on Sunday, 220 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: so that is very good to hear. But he is 221 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol and we will just have to 222 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: see what happens. Darnell Savage left the game in the 223 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: second half with a shoulder injury. Matt Lafleur does not 224 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: believe it is a long term issue at all, and 225 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: even suggested that with the extra day with the Packers 226 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: not playing until Monday night, that that might be enough 227 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: time for Darnell Savage to even get back on the 228 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: field here in week two, and then Zadarius Smith. He 229 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: went into the game questionable. He only practiced once during 230 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: training camp, ended up playing eighteen snaps. Apparently came out 231 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: of it no worse for where um health wise. I'm 232 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: sure he has a little bit of an objection to 233 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: that flag, that flag that was thrown on the roughing 234 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the passer. I don't want to go off on a 235 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: big tangent here West, but I just have to say, Look, 236 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: I've been saying it for years. The NFL puts in 237 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: all these safety rules, and I get it, I understand it. 238 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's a problem with the safety rules. 239 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna put all the safety rules in, 240 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: why aren't you going to use replay to make sure 241 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: you get the calls right? Because he didn't hit him high, 242 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: he didn't hit him low, he didn't land with his 243 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: body weight on him, he didn't hit him late. He 244 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: hit him hard. Yes, he hit him hard, and it 245 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: looked bad. So they throw a flag because it looked bad. 246 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: And when you look at it on the replay, he 247 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: didn't break a rule. The safety rules are in place, 248 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: he didn't break a rule. So you can't just throw 249 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: a flag because it looked bad. I just I get it. 250 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: It was twenty four to three. I still don't think 251 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: the game is over at that point. Necessarily, the Packers 252 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: probably are not going to win the game. But what 253 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: if that call happens when it's one and you wipe 254 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: out an interception by a defense in the end zone 255 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: on a call like that, I mean, come on, NFL, 256 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: make the safety rules reviewable on replay. It's simple, it's simple. 257 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Just if the rules are that important, then make sure 258 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: you get the calls right. Alright? That all right, I'm done, 259 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're right. The thing I'm actually most grateful 260 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: for on that play was that Jamis Winston threw the 261 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: ball because I still feel like that flag is probably 262 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: getting thrown even if he sacks him. I really believe that. No, 263 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: you no, you're you're absolutely The referee was looking at 264 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: one thing and one thing only. Well, and that is 265 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: his job. He's he that referee is back there to 266 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: protect the quarterback Monday night, raw is what he was 267 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: looking at. He was looking at how that quarterback is 268 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: going back. I give Jamis a lot of credit. His 269 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: head whipped back like he just got into a car. 270 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Accident and that there was no contact to the head 271 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: at all. Right, that's the thing. His head whipped back 272 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: because of the power of the hit. But Zadarius Smith 273 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: did not break a rule. And then because it because 274 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: it looked bad, because it looked bad, he throws the flag. 275 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: And that's why. And I don't I don't blame the 276 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: official that that's what That's what I want people to understand. 277 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't blame the official for throwing the flag because 278 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: it looked like roughing the past, but it wasn't. Look 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: at the replay, make sure you get the call right. 280 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: And the NFL refuses to do that, I don't understand. 281 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: And and the fact of the matter is I actually 282 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: got really fired up watching the game too, because everybody 283 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: will always say, well, then the games get too long, 284 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're doing all these reviews. And my only, 285 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: my only counter to that then is okay, if that's 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: the emphasis then, because we're all about emphasis is in 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, God forbid that I celebrate while 288 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm directly you know, across from where as opposed to 289 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: my body being turned this way. That's an issue, that's 290 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: a penalty that could get me ejected. Right, but God forbid, 291 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, if that's the emphasis and that's where hey, 292 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to review these things. 293 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: Then it is on the referees to get this right. 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: It is their job to get it right, whether they're 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in the position, whether that means adding another guy somewhere 296 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: in the stadium that is looking from a different perspective, 297 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: only focused on that quarterback. That's something the NFL has 298 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: to figure out because my biggest issue. Let's say the 299 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: game doesn't turn around. Let's say the Packers do still 300 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: loset to ten or whatever. We saw this happen with 301 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: JayR Alexander two years three years ago. It cost him 302 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: an interception. In this day and age, it's not easy 303 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: to play defense, and it's not easy to generate turnovers. 304 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: If a guy gets a takeaway, he should be rewarded 305 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: for it if the play was clean, unacceptable. All right, 306 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: thank you for indulge you, but I apologize. I will. 307 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I will say this. Good to see Darius Smith. From 308 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: a health perspective, it sounds like, no question, that's a 309 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: huge thing for this defense because they're gonna need them, 310 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: no question about it. Absolutely. You mentioned it before the 311 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: NFC North took a goose again. Week one, the the 312 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings go into Cincinnati and lose in overtime. Actually 313 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: they were in my opinion, they were lucky to get 314 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: it to overtime in the first place. I think Cincinnati 315 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: made made some really questionable decisions when they had a 316 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: two score lead there in the second half. But that aside, 317 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Minnesota was then in position maybe five six seven yards 318 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: away from being able to kick a field goal win 319 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: that game, and overtime Dalvin Cook fumbles the ball, Cincinnati recovers, 320 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: they get in position and kick a walk off as 321 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: the overtime clock expires. So Minnesota is oh and one. 322 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: That the Chicago Bears hang with the l A Rams 323 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: for a while there on Sunday Night. I believe it 324 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: was a fourteen game there in the second half. Then 325 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the Rams pull away at the end win by twenty. 326 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: So the Bears are oh on one. And then the 327 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Packers opponent here coming up in Week two, Monday Night Football, 328 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. They fall behind big time. They're down 329 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: with I don't know, four or five minutes left in 330 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: the game, and suddenly they get this big rally going. 331 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: They score and get a two. They recover an onside kick, 332 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: they score again, get another two point conversion. Suddenly a 333 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: twenty four point deficit is an eight point deficit. It's 334 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: forty one to thirty three. And then the Niners have 335 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: the game put away on a completed pass on a 336 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: third down conversion and they fumble the ball. Detroit gets 337 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: it back and they actually get within twenty five yards 338 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: of that potential game tying touchdown, but they fall to 339 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: the forty ninerst to thirty three. But we saw that's 340 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions team that showed a lot of fight 341 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: in a game that they were getting. They were getting 342 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: it handed to him for three and a half quarters. 343 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: And that's the Detroit. The fighting Detroit Lions are gonna 344 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: be here at lambeau Field come Monday night. Yeah. We 345 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: always talk about teams taking on the mantra and the 346 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: mentality of their coach, and I thought you saw that 347 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: this game with the Lions, because I was one of 348 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: those people that left them for dead. In this game, 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: Jared Goff gets off to a slow start. You're not 350 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: really sure what the running game is. Jamal Williams had 351 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: a great game, but DeAndre Swift is sort of their ace. 352 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: That's the guy they've been working on being the lead back, 353 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: and and here's you know, Jamal kind of coming out 354 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: of nowhere. All that being said, I really don't know 355 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: how to make heads or tails out of that first 356 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: week for the NFC North, whether it's the Packers, whether 357 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: it's the Vikings and the Lions, the Bears. I think 358 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: you saw that they're they're kind of far away from 359 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: where I think where they need to be and where 360 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: they want to be. I think they have to figure 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: out that quarterback situation first and then start to let 362 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the dominance. And there, and and and they were. They 363 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: were behind the eight ball in some respects to that. 364 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: You know, the new stadium out there in l A, 365 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: which did not have any fans last year, Suddenly it's 366 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: the first game where those l A fans get to 367 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: fill the place and it's Sunday night football in primetime. 368 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough way to open your season. 369 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: And as I said, they did hang with them into 370 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: the second half there. It was a one score game 371 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: him for a while, but ultimately the Rams took control 372 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: down the stretching for him away. I just have a 373 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: harder time figuring out I mean, I think a lot 374 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: of it's gonna come down to us trying to figure 375 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: out how good the Cincinnati Bengals are. And you know, 376 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: I think everybody in the NFC North has to play him. 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: The Vikings were the first one to play him, and 378 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: everybody else is going to get a shot at him. 379 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: To Joe Burrow's legit. If he can stay healthy, I 380 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: think he's gonna give a lot of teams problems. I 381 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: think there's some questions with their defense there, but you know, 382 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings, that's been the way this thing's gone for them. 383 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of ups and downs, and when 384 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: you're up and down too much, you end up at 385 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: that seven and nine, eight and eight level. So some 386 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: questions that Mike Zimmers group has to answer. But getting 387 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: bringing it back to Detroit to close this thing up, 388 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: they showed a lot of heart, they showed a lot 389 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: of desire and I still you know, they lost Jeff 390 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: Acuda this week, so that's gonna be a big loss 391 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: for them for the season. Young cornerback that had a 392 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: fantastic camp and looked like he was making the strides 393 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: they wanted to after a rough rookie year. So they're 394 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: gonna have to rally the troops, but they present a 395 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: lot of issues, Mike, you know, with t J Hockenson 396 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: kind of coming on. Certainly the two headed Ackfield um 397 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff has been there, done that, so they're 398 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna come in wanting to be you know, find a 399 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: way to come in and upend the Green Bay. So 400 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: that's something that Matt Floor is gonna have to have 401 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: these guys ready for. Yeah, well, the first NFC North 402 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: matchup of one, it's already here in week two. With that, 403 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 404 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 405 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: team all week long. We've got it for you on 406 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Packers dot com for West, I'm Mike. 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