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Speaker 1: all of you moms, dad's, grandparents, uncle's aunts. Imagine your

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Speaker 1: nine year old child goes to sleep at night on

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Speaker 1: nine one one. What happened to Diana. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. To all of you parents

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Speaker 1: this little girl, Dianna Alvarez was when she went missing.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us here

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Speaker 1: Eleven children go missing every day in our country, our America,

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Speaker 1: search is on for a missing nine year old girl

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Speaker 1: and take a good look at this picture here. Diana

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Speaker 1: DBO Ray Caputo Ray at the beginning, where do we

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Speaker 1: have been having more attention paid to her. That's very

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Speaker 1: curious that that would be the first thing out of

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Speaker 1: your else and that is a big tale tale signed

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Speaker 1: to me. Go ahead, Angela, And why do they start?

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Speaker 1: Why they Why did the family members start fighting with

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Speaker 1: each other all of a sudden. You would think that

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Speaker 1: people would pull together instead of fight with each other

435
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: over her disappearance, right, you'd think, you'd think, But the

436
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: level of blame that's going around that bio dad doesn't

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00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: live there, so he probably feels guilty. The stepfather is

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Speaker 1: under suspicion because he's a male in the home. Then

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00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: you've got the mother. The child goes missing on her

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Speaker 1: watch and then after nine days a major break in

441
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Speaker 1: the case or is it Take a listen to WFTX

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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Fox four Samantha Sosa. Nine days later and still no

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Speaker 1: sign of nine year old Diana Alvarez, even after investigators

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Speaker 1: arrested a person of interest twenty eight year old Jorge

445
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Guerrero sits in the Lee County jail after police picked

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Speaker 1: him up in Okeechobee Saturday. He was transferred to Lee

447
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: County this morning, where he's now charged with having child porn.

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00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Diana's family not knowing what to make of the charge.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to imagine worst case scenario again. We

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Speaker 1: want to try to stay positive. Although Guerrero hasn't been

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Speaker 1: charged with kidnapping, court documents revealed police tracked his phone

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Speaker 1: to the area where Diana's home is in the hours

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Speaker 1: she went missing. Police then tracked the cell phone to

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Speaker 1: central Florida, where it was stationary for several hours, and

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Speaker 1: then ditched along a road in Orlando. Diana's family is

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00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: devastated and desperate at this point for answers that will

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Speaker 1: lead them to Diana. Her very pregnant mother doesn't even

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Speaker 1: want to go to the hospital until she sees her daughter.

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00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: At this point, she's having difficulties she's been ordered by dress.

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00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: The family pushing to keep Diana's pictures circulating. Police say

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00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: tips and leads have been helpful in this case. So

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00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: suddenly this guy, Guerrero's arrested on child porn and his

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Speaker 1: phone his truck from around Diana's home all the way

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Speaker 1: to central Florida where the phone is ditched. Crime Stories

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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. We are talking about the disappearance of

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Speaker 1: a nine year old girl, Diana Alvarez. So, Choice Layton,

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Speaker 1: you're the right now and criminal defense attorney. Why would

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Speaker 1: a guy just throw a cell phone out the window

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00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: and leave it? Why? I wouldn't doesn't sound good, Nancy,

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00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: And neither does the fact that he was possessing child pornography.

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Speaker 1: And so what do you do with that at trial?

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00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Troice Layton, what do you do when your client coincidentally

473
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the same day this little girl goes missing ditches his

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00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: cell phone. Why would you throw away your own cell phone?

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Speaker 1: You got to come up with an explanation for a

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Speaker 1: jury fell out the window accidentally. I'm so glad you

477
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Speaker 1: said you were trying to text and it was hanging

478
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: out the window and then the wind got it. But Nancy, seriously, obviously,

479
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: ditching a cell phone on purpose, just like running from

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Speaker 1: the police, shows consciousness of guilt. And I think that

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Speaker 1: in a case like this where there is child pornography, obviously, Lee,

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00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: this is somebody that is suffering from a medical condition.

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Speaker 1: So you stop with the medical condition. It's a felony.

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Speaker 1: You call it a medical condition. I call it one

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Speaker 1: of the worst felonies that exist. Child sickness, Nancy, it's

486
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the sagments that can best be treated behind bars. Well

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00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: they're possibly behind bars, but also uh intense psychotherapy and

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Speaker 1: psychological treatment behind party. Who is who is that? Uh

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Speaker 1: sick Nancy to Rank Aputer, lead news anchor, joining me

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Speaker 1: with Orlando's Morning News w d BO, What if any

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Speaker 1: connection is there between this guy Guerrero and the Alvarez family. Well, Nancy,

492
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: like Mark Class said a bit, the first thing that

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Speaker 1: investigators do is they start drilling down on the immediate family.

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Speaker 1: So they talk to the mom the stuff that they're

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Speaker 1: really distraught, And what they learned is that Horne Guerrera

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Speaker 1: Torres had been staying with the family while he was

497
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: looking for work. If we do a migrant worker. Just

498
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, he had been allowed to live in

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Speaker 1: the home. Yes, he had been allowed to live Oh,

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Speaker 1: Mark Class, Mark, Mark, I remember a case and it

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00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: started out as a murder case, and the sister, the

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Speaker 1: adult sister of the victim, would come to court every

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Speaker 1: day and I got to know her and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the victim's family. And over the course of this

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Speaker 1: very long trial, as I was prosecuting during the day

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Speaker 1: and she would sit in the back, I got to

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Speaker 1: know her, and I learned that out of her big family,

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: many children, her father molested her. Nobody but her and

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00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: the mother knew about it. And all these years later,

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00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: she was still as she should have been, torn up.

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Speaker 1: And I saw the father come into court watching the

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Speaker 1: murder trial. His son had been murdered, and I could

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00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: barely stand a look at him because I believed what

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Speaker 1: the now adult daughter was telling me. And she blamed

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Speaker 1: the mother just as much as she blamed the father.

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Speaker 1: And I think she's right if the mother knew what

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Speaker 1: was going on. First of all, not saying this mother knew,

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Speaker 1: and Diana Alvarez, I'm just saying, that's my memory of

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: another case. Bringing somebody that's a child pornographer into the

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00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: home and letting them stay there explains why the family

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00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: members were fighting. Almost immediately after her disappearance, those other

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Speaker 1: family members were saying, you should have watched her more carefully.

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Speaker 1: Why did you allow that man to stay in the house.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you see her behavior? Perhaps she had changed. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but it's sure is pointing in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Answer take a lesson to cut eleven WFTX Fox for

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Speaker 1: Chris Shaw. Diana's parents were here for the hearing today.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they come to pretty much all of Guerrero's

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Speaker 1: court appearances. They left today like they leave most of

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Speaker 1: the time, discouraged that as the wheels of justice slowly

531
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Speaker 1: turn on this case, they are no closer to getting

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Speaker 1: the answer they desperately need. Plenty of things happened in

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Speaker 1: federal court Monday morning, but the family of Diana Alvarez

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00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: walked away feeling like nothing has really changed it. They

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: still little have nothing about Diana. So we're still looking

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Speaker 1: for somebody they know, Santen or any new It's been

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00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: more than two months since the nine year old vanished

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Speaker 1: from her San Carlos Park home. Guys, we are hearing

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00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: the parents speaking, and then a bombshell that cracks the

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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: case wide open. We learn that during a search for Diana,

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Speaker 1: police speak to Guerrero and he admits he admits he

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Speaker 1: quote made sexual contact with Diana when she was only

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Speaker 1: eight years old on a regular basis. So this has

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00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: been going on right under the noses of the family

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: in the home because they allow this guy to stay

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Speaker 1: under their roof. Do I have it correctly out to

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00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Ray Kabudo Wdbo, Yeah, Nancy, you do. But when they

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00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: figure out that there's an appropriate relationship going on cruly,

549
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: they don't call the police. They just throw us out.

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Speaker 1: So that's how he got out of the whole book.

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Speaker 1: I understanding police were never called when he apparently having

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Speaker 1: sexual contact with this desicient. Is that meeting there was

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00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: some worry over there. Wait a minute, just a minute

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Speaker 1: before you start, I want to stick with what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about right now. To Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard for me to believe that there has

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Speaker 1: been regular sex contact with an eight year old child

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00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: and nobody in the home and nobody notices anything. Yeah,

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00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: in most cases where you have the sexual abuses ongoing,

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00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: you'll see drastic changes in the victim, particularly a child

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00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: like this. You'll have everything from a bed wedding. You'll

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00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: have children whose appetites will diminish. You'll see particularly where

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Speaker 1: they're not paying attention to their own personal hygiene. These

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00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: are some things that manifest themselves that give us evidentially

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00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: clues as to ongoing behavior. And also if they are

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Speaker 1: exhibiting fear fear when they're in then so how can

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Speaker 1: a family not be attuned to this sort of thing?

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00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: This is what we know at this juncture. Our cut

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Speaker 1: fifteen Jackie. Take a listen to wink w I and

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Speaker 1: k Nis reporter Anika and Anger. At times she couldn't speak.

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00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: The news about her daughter so painful. When we spoke,

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Speaker 1: she still had to tell Diana's five brothers and sisters

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Speaker 1: the news, and she told us they still held on

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Speaker 1: to hope that Diana would come home. A mom with

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Speaker 1: what she has left of her daughter, not nearly enough

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00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: memories and pictures. I have to go without a birthday,

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Speaker 1: another year without a birthday, after nearly four long years

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Speaker 1: of searching for Diana Alvarez. Today her mom bread to

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Speaker 1: her Nandez learned investigators found her daughter's remains. I don't

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Speaker 1: wish this upon anybody, on nobody, because it wasn't her fault.

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Speaker 1: The painful discovery in the Ossiola County, where the Lee

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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office says surveyors stumbled upon the remains the

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Speaker 1: only suspect in Diana's appearance from her Saint Carlos Park

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Speaker 1: home in twenty sixteen is Jorge Guerrero Torres. While he

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00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: already faces murder charges in her death, prosecutors now have

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: further evidence of the crime. But what she suffered and

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: what she lived in those moments, I don't wish that

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Speaker 1: upon anybody to mark class. Do you remember the moment,

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Speaker 1: and I know you do, that you learned Polly had

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Speaker 1: been murdered, You know I do, Nancy, And it was

591
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: just probably the saddest thing that ever happened in my life.

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Speaker 1: I was called into the Pedalota Police Department, probably for

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Speaker 1: the second time in that day, and they told me

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Speaker 1: that there was an update. Polly's mom was there, my

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00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: wife Violet was there. When we walked into the office.

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Speaker 1: There were already tears in the eyes of the FBI

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Speaker 1: agent and the local police captain, and it was just

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00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: a matter of them telling me what had happened. And

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00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: it's funny because intellectually I understood exactly what he said,

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Speaker 1: but it took me maybe three or four hours before

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00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: my emotions caught up with that unbelievable revelation. And it

602
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: was only then hours later, once we had finally returned

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00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: home for the first time in sixty five days that

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00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: the enormity of the situation revealed itself to me, and

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00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: my heart absolutely shattered. And it took me a decade,

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00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: at least a decade to be able to take those

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00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: little shards of heart and put them back together and

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Speaker 1: be able to enjoy life again. It's just the most devastating,

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Speaker 1: horrifying news one could ever expect to hear. But having

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Speaker 1: said that, Nancy, I'm in a better place knowing than

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Speaker 1: Missus Alvarez was not knowing for those four years. We know.

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Speaker 1: Wait as justice unfolds Nancy Grace crime story. Signing off

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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,