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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, do you

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Speaker 1: have a frog in your throat? Well, you should get

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Speaker 1: it out of there. Frogs may seem like cute little sweethearts,

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Speaker 1: but they can pack a punch when they need to,

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Speaker 1: from dangerous booties to headbuts from hell. We're looking at

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Speaker 1: these cuties with some devilish secrets. Discover this more as

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Speaker 1: we answered the age old question are my eyes up

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Speaker 1: here or are they down there? Joining me today to

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Speaker 1: learn how not to croak from a stab from a

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Speaker 1: frog is host of the Cold Brew Got Me Like podcasts,

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Speaker 1: author of The Advice King Anthology, and probably human Chris Crofton. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Hi Katie, Thanks for having me. Yeah, thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: on back. I think the last time I had you

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Speaker 1: on was pre Panino, pre Pennini. Uh, when we were

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Speaker 1: we were talking about um alien life forms under the sea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was wondering when I was come back on Creature Feature.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be. And yeah, it was a long

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Speaker 1: time ago. I had just done Daily Zeitgeist or something

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Speaker 1: and then I met you or something, and yeah, we

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Speaker 1: did a show about I didn't remember what we did

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Speaker 1: the show about. It was what we do sea creatures, creatures,

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Speaker 1: Mariana trench type stuff like those see through octopus exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well today we're talking about frogs. Cool. What are your

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Speaker 1: what are your attitudes towards frogs. I've always been afraid

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Speaker 1: i'man not afraid of them, like I guess, I'm just

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Speaker 1: afraid of animals in general. So I like when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid, everybody would go to this pond near

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Speaker 1: my house and they would catch frogs, you know, bull frogs,

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Speaker 1: and they'd like, I just remember the kids that are

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Speaker 1: all like you know senators now would like grab the

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Speaker 1: bull frogs, you know, and just be like, hey, look

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Speaker 1: I have a bull frog and like hold it up,

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Speaker 1: you know, and squeeze it. You know. I just you

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, no problem at all. And

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Speaker 1: I really didn't. I was just they were so big,

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Speaker 1: the bull frogs back then, I don't know, it was

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Speaker 1: the seventies. They were very like when I was eight

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Speaker 1: or something in nineteen seventy seven. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're still growing them that big, but are pretty big.

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Speaker 1: You know, they still get they still get pretty big. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel, Katie? Have you ever I mean,

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Speaker 1: aside from obviously not squeezing them, how do you feel

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Speaker 1: about catching a frog? Have you ever caught a frog? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Little ones. When I was a kid, I lacked the

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Speaker 1: moral compass that I have as an adult. So I

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Speaker 1: as pets. I didn't know what I was doing there.

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Speaker 1: There were mistakes made, lives lost on the altar of

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Speaker 1: my journey of discovery about hey, you can't you can't

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Speaker 1: where it was just like a bunch of macho bullshit,

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Speaker 1: one of the tests of masculinity where I grew up

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Speaker 1: that I failed. That's so interesting. It's it shows how

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Speaker 1: much our concepts of masculinity is cultural, right, because I

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Speaker 1: would never have thought that you'd have to prove yourself

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about, I think you will feel better about

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome. First, we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Koyaba dwarf frog and the koyab a dwarf frog. I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: both words and swords. Inflatable poisonous butts with eyes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: makes sense, it's deep. So yes, South America's Cuyabo dwarf

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Speaker 1: a little brown frog found in grasslands and near ponds

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Speaker 1: or coates who are long snooted carnivorous mammals related to raccoons.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of things out there that

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Speaker 1: not z being a little brown frog either. No, and

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Speaker 1: just because it has those humongous eyes on its that's right.

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Speaker 1: So when it is threatened, the cleaba turns the other cheek,

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Speaker 1: convincingly like eyeballs. So these large eyes look like they

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Speaker 1: The dwarfrog itself is only around three centimeters big, so

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Speaker 1: It's a time tested evolutionary um masterpiece. So sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: red hot chili peppers uh tattoos I have they're already

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Speaker 1: are tattoo parlors running a deal where they will do

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Speaker 1: or something. I think that's really weird, Katie, because what's

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Speaker 1: So if you see, like imagine you're imagine you're a

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Speaker 1: was a researcher who accidentally got jabbed by the less

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00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: toxic C. Grinegy species and reported intense pain in his

423
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: entire arm for over five hours. So I would imagine

424
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: that the more potent frog, the Bruno's cast headed frog,

425
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: if you got stung by one of those, it would

426
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: be unpleasant, bad, bad for your health. Yeah. I think

427
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: they should start measuring, like, get the measurement how many

428
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: how many people could this one kill? Eight? Well, we

429
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: don't know how many it could kill through normal like headbutting,

430
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: because we don't really I don't know if it's known

431
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: how much venom it injects. But if you a graham

432
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: of the venom is concentrated enough that it could take

433
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: out eighty people. Wow. See I think they should start

434
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: measuring it in like weirder stuff. If they're gonna say

435
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: eighty people, they should be like a large dinner party,

436
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like could kill a human

437
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: picnic like that. Put it in make it scarier because

438
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: people will really leave these frogs alone if they If you,

439
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: if you have the idea that it could take out

440
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: a whole take out a third of a fish concert. Exactly.

441
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, that's

442
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's funny. Oh thinking about you. Well,

443
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: if you actually look at one of the skulls of

444
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: these things, it really kind of shows you the menacing

445
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: because you look at their sweet little faces. You're like

446
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: that little guy, this will this all like weird dog faced, cute,

447
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: little muppet looking frog. No, but their skulls are a nightmare.

448
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: They have so many spikes. It's like, I don't I've

449
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: been playing a lot of elden Ring. I'm gonna be

450
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: honest with you, and that's definitely looks like something from

451
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: that the game that does kill you immediately even though

452
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: you did dodge a lot. Uh. It's a for those

453
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: of you who aren't playing elden Ring. I mean, first

454
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: of all, congratulations on having a life. But secondly, uh,

455
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: any any time you try to fight anything in that game,

456
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: it is it's very mean to you. It's very mean.

457
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: And this skull it looks like one of the mean

458
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: bosses that kills you really badly over and over again.

459
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: That's insane. I'm looking at this thing that is crazy.

460
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: It's got the whole the whole front of this thing's

461
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: head as needles exactly, and it's just in it, you know,

462
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: Wolverine esque, just jabs it through its own skin without

463
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: a care in the world. It's like it's at the

464
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: overall vibe of this frog, despite how cute it is,

465
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: it's very menacing. It's like I'm willing to jab all

466
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: of my skull knives through my own skin just just

467
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: to get at you. And so, you know I am,

468
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm personally intimidated that. Yeah, that's like I want to

469
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: know what these what are these frogs? What secrets of

470
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: these frogs keeping inside? I mean, you know what I mean?

471
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: Like what this makes me think, Katie, This this discussion

472
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: makes me think about you know, I just wonder why

473
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: some some plants have prickers on them, like you know, thorns,

474
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and then some some like you know, some peppers. If

475
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: you eat the wrong pepper, you're gonna burn your face off,

476
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, like a hot pepper, you know, and then

477
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: you eat some other peppers that, um, you know, don't

478
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: do anything to eat like a green pepper or like

479
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: a yellow pepper or whatever, you know, it's the pepper,

480
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: or you just eat it on a salad so I'm

481
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: just wondering. It's sort of interesting to me when I

482
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: think about why some some poor vegetables or animals end

483
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: up with no defense, and then some end up with

484
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: the most elaborate crazy you ever saw. And then I

485
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: wonder if these animals have some sort of secret and

486
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: that's why they have so much on them, And like

487
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: why why hot peppers must have some something protecting? It's

488
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: very important. You asking what kind of frogs you can

489
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: put on a salad. No, no, no, certainly not if

490
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to touch a frog. I definitely don't

491
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: want to eat a frog. Uh. But yeah, I just

492
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting that some animals get such

493
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: like wild defense and some seem to get like very little,

494
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: like you know, like a I don't know, I don't know,

495
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: like a sparrow. I bet a sparrow would like to

496
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: have I don't know who eats sparrows. I guess like hawks,

497
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, I bet a sparrow could have used a

498
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: few spikes, that's all, you know. I was just thinking, like,

499
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: why this is a little fair. It does seem unfair. Yeah,

500
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's you know, the simple rule

501
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: of evolution is if you are able to survive. That's it.

502
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Like evolution doesn't care about how cool you look, how

503
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: much fun you have in life. It really doesn't have

504
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: any like quality of life, Like, hey, why don't why

505
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: didn't humans get cool spikes? Well, if we're if we

506
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: survived without the spikes, then you know, we just don't

507
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: get to have them. So it's yeah, I guess that's right.

508
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense because like, it's not like

509
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: green peppers aren't threa. They're everywhere. We just like to eat. Yeah,

510
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I cannot get. I cannot. I can't spit and not

511
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: hit a green pepper, you know what I mean. No,

512
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: it's insane. I'm coming out getting out of bed in

513
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: the mornings in the yellow peppers. I'm all right with

514
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: their chill. They're really delicious green peppers. Get out of here,

515
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: stop it? Yeah yeah, yeah, and then then out of nowhere.

516
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Do you think that you talk disrespected green pepper? And

517
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 1: then they head right? Your arm is killing you for

518
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: five hours And that green pepper's name Bruno's casquetted frog.

519
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: And we've come full circle. Um. Before we move on

520
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: to the next section, I did want to just briefly

521
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: mention a frog I love this frog because it's just

522
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: a frog who has a knife. Essentially, it's like normal frog,

523
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: but then it's it's got it's it's just got a knife.

524
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: This is Hilos. That's a great name for an indie

525
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: rock band frog with a knife. Yeah. Um, this is

526
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: another small tree dwelling frog in Ecuador. I tell you

527
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: these tree frogs they are nuts like they The dangers

528
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: they must face in these rainforests are so intense that

529
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: they have become hard. Uh, they have become hardcore. Uh,

530
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: and they don't mess around. So Hilo skirt Us helicici

531
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: is a gray little frog with gold flex and gold eyes.

532
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Is very pretty, and it's just got an extra knife finger.

533
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: That's about it. It's got an extra finger. That's knife. Uh.

534
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: It is a sharp extra protrusion off the side of

535
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: its thumb that the frog uses to stab other frogs. Uh,

536
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, predators, researchers. Apparently it was able to stab

537
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: through a latex glove and scratch a researcher. So you know,

538
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: it's just a cute little frog with a knife attached

539
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: to it. An extra knife finger. Oh, it's got which

540
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: one is the knife? The little thumb, little stick Okay,

541
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, I just like that. I sometimes

542
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: as much as I appreciate creativity and evolution, I also

543
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: like it when evolution just kind of pops out something

544
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: that it sounds like it's just kind of running out

545
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: of ideas, like a frog. But uh, it's got a knife. Yeah,

546
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: frog with a knife. Yeah, yeah, that is a very

547
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: beautiful little frog. And you would never I think that

548
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: it has a knife. It's just the way you would

549
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: not think any animal, at least in my experience. I

550
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: never expect an animal that but I but I might

551
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: want to adjust mm hmmm, start thinking about it. But

552
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: that is crazy. It's a beautiful little frog and stuff nice.

553
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: So now we are we are going to talk about

554
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: one more frog that is menacing. And this frog is

555
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: called Basil buffo beazel buffo. Um. It is wow, that's

556
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: another good name for a beazel buffo. It is combining

557
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: the devil's name beazel bub or some people think it's

558
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: not the devil, some people think it's the lord of

559
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: the flies. Um, but it's combining beazel bub with Latin

560
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: for toad, which is buffo, even though technically this is

561
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a frog. So just just a reminder, Um, all toads

562
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: are frogs, and only some frogs are toads. Toads are

563
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: just defined as dogs that kind of are. They have

564
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: some certain characteristics like thicker, more rough skin, um stubby

565
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: your legs, things like that. So beazl Buffo is also

566
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: known as the devil frog. It is an extinct species

567
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: of frog that lived around seventy million years ago in Madagascar.

568
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: It is estimated to have grown around a foot in length,

569
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: around nine to sixteen inches or twenty three to forty

570
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: two centimeters, and up to ten pounds or four point

571
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: five kims, which is larger than some chihuahuas. Chris, how

572
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: you how you feeling about this this frog so far?

573
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: Because you know, well, I'm just imagining, like in my head,

574
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I just pictured Kim Kardashian with one of these frogs

575
00:37:54,160 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: in her bag. That's what I got. That's what I got,

576
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: so fark that's what I got so far. Man. I

577
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: would love to live in that universe where instead of

578
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: toy toy dogs, we have toy frogs. And you got

579
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton with one of these these devil frogs just

580
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: sitting contentedly in a Gucci bag. Yeah, or else a

581
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: situation where an alien is carrying around Kim Kardashians. It's

582
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: just bags all the way down. Yes, like every every

583
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: species dreams of having a pet. Yeah, but who's every

584
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Everyone is someone's pet in a bag, right, yes, yep

585
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: Jane's addiction. Yeah, remember that song will make great pets? No, No,

586
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't about aliens. Oh it's a song called pets

587
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: and it's about I mean, it's just about aliens having

588
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: us as pets someday and how we'll make great pets.

589
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: And I just remember that was actually a thought that

590
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: I actually was kind of like wow, I kind of

591
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: mind blowing, like smoke some weed, be like I never

592
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: really thought about that. But yeah, yeah, we would be

593
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: pets and we would have our own purses filled with

594
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: our own pets, and right, it would just never stop.

595
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: There would have like a smaller frog and it's purse,

596
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: and then that frog would have micro highland frog and

597
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: it's purse because like they're trogs, like smaller than your

598
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: pinky nails. I would probably have like one of those. Yeah, no,

599
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: I could. This situation could rapidly get out of hand. Um,

600
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: this is the version of capitalism. I will if capitalism

601
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: gives us nesting frogs and bags, then I will change

602
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: my attitude towards the frogs carrying around. And right, this

603
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: is this is the only like when people ask what

604
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: are we what is our goal in life? Like what

605
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: is the economy for? What are we striving towards as

606
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: a civilization, it's frogs and bags and frogs and bags

607
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: and frogs and bags. Yes, exactly. And also I would

608
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: liked I imagine, I mean, I I think about this

609
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: because I was just on my own podcast. I was

610
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: talking about golden doodles recently, and I was thinking about,

611
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, like I was talking about how I don't

612
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't quite like the idea of like people wanting

613
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: a hypoallergenic dog, you know, because then it's just opens

614
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: this door to like genetically engineering them. So like I

615
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: was just thinking about someone like shrinking a German shepherd

616
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: to make it, you know, I think I mentioned a

617
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: shrunk and German shepherd earlier in the show. I just

618
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: have shrunk and German shepherds on my mind because I

619
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: imagined having a German shepherd shrunk down so someone could

620
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: have one in their bag, you know. And um, but

621
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: I was also thinking about how much fun it would

622
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: be to actually right around in a bag, and how

623
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I would love to be a bag. And well, you

624
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: could have potentially done that around seventy million years ago

625
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: in Madagascar if you were small enough to be the

626
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: prey of this devil frog, like if you're a baby dinosaur,

627
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: like maybe hey, maybe in a past life you're a

628
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: baby dinosaur. And these devil frogs have these huge pac

629
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: man like mouths. Uh, they're similar, potentially similar, although probably

630
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: not very related to horned frogs that live today. These

631
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: are these frogs that are just kind of triangular shaped

632
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: and they have they're like mouth, they have this huge

633
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: mouth to body ratio and so basically pac man with

634
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: little frog legs. And so this suggests that these devil

635
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: frogs ate large prey, probably even baby dinosaurs, and the

636
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: bite force of their jaws is estimated to have been

637
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: somewhere between five hundred to two thousand over two thousand Newton's.

638
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: So for reference, human bite force of our back molars

639
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: is around one thousand, three hundred Newton's, so uh, potentially

640
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: stronger than human bite. So yeah, I don't even want

641
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: to think about how many Newton's my biting it just

642
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: made me upset because I you know, I don't really

643
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: bite things that hard, but I know that, you know,

644
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: if someone really wants to bite you, it's now it's

645
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: no joke. I think about my bite force all the

646
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: time because I have bruxi is um where I it's

647
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: not really teeth grinding, it's more clenching I have. I

648
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: have a really gorgeous retainer that's very fetching that I

649
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: have to wear at night otherwise I will destroy, Like

650
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: my my teeth. Clinching is so bad. I feel like

651
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: if I continue to clench, I'm just gonna kind of

652
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: hyper compress my teeth and start like a new black

653
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: hole in my mouth. So the retainer is really important. Well, yeah,

654
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: tis the season for that sort of This is a

655
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: this is definitely teeth clenching season. Yeah yeah. These last

656
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: these last couple of years have been like Golden Age.

657
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's uh, you know, I mean at least

658
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm working out my jaw muscles. I guess. So if

659
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: I ever need to compete one of these with one

660
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: of these, I mean, these are extinct, but I feel

661
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: like if one of these beasel buffo's uh somehow unfawsed

662
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: somewhere and we clone them from kind of like Jurassic

663
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: Frog Park, because you know, they only have dinosaurs in

664
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: those things and plants. I don't know why they didn't

665
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: have more like old frogs. But yeah, I've been working

666
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: out my new new Tony in force, so you know, like, ah,

667
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: maybe I could beat one of these frogs at like

668
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: a biting competition. Oh man, just imagine what a life

669
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: that would be. Biting competitions with frogs, frogs and bags.

670
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: This would be I dream about it every night. It's

671
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: probably why I'm clenching my jaw so hard in my sleep.

672
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking about bite force in terms of picnics,

673
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: My bite force, my bite forces the equivalent of fifty picnics.

674
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: May the this is what I'm gonna say next time,

675
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: like like we're eating dinner or something like, May the

676
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: bite Force be with you? And then everyone will just

677
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: bust their guts laughing at my cool Star Wars humor.

678
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, I hope I'm not at that.

679
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not at that dinner. Well, now comes

680
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: the moment everyone's been waiting for more Star Wars jokes.

681
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding. The actual moment everyone's been waiting for.

682
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: It is the Mystery animal sound game. Guess Who's squawking?

683
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: Every week we play a mystery animal sound and you

684
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: the listener and you the guests, try to guess who's squawking.

685
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Who's making that sound? Could be anything could be from

686
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: birds to insects, to mammals, to see creatures, to invertebrates,

687
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: to vertebrates, to furry to naked. So many different animals

688
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: that could be making this sounds, so anything is game.

689
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Uh So, last week's mystery animal sound had this hint

690
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: that it sounds like an adorable squeaking mouse, except it

691
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: has way too many legs to be a mouse. And

692
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: this is what that sound was. Yeah, I would guess

693
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: a mouse sounds pretty mouth like, what are you gonna

694
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: tell me? That is? What the what the hell is that?

695
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: So this is not a mouse. This is, in fact,

696
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: a poor, sweet little camel spider being harassed. So, oh

697
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: my god. So camel spiders get a pretty bad reputation

698
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: because they're kind of scary looking, but they are mostly

699
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: harmless to humans. Hooray for being mostly harmless. Uh, they

700
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: do have strong chilic arrae. So those are the bidy

701
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: parts which they can use. Now, stay with me, don't

702
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: don't freak out yet. They can use to cut through

703
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: bird feathers and light bird bones. But but they are

704
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: not venomous, and so their bite maybe kind of a

705
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: painful nip, but probably no worse than what you might

706
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: receive from a chihuahua. So you know, if I got

707
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: bitten by a spider that hurt as much as a chihuahua,

708
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: I would lose my mind. That is, that's crazy. I

709
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: hope that never happens to me. How many Newton's are

710
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: we dealing with Katie with the spider's bite? Do we? Do?

711
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: We know? I don't actually have that information on the

712
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: I want to know about I want about all. I

713
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: don't want to know about all the MONA say, M,

714
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean thousand Newton's, No, less five hundred. If we

715
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: were a thousand, it's probably only two feet Yeah, yeah,

716
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: I would say maybe three d I'm gonna guess. I

717
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Also, are you am I the only one

718
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: who's picturing Sir Isaac Newton biting people right now? Yes? Oh? No, okay,

719
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: not again. So these are found in dry climates, in

720
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 1: sort of desert terrain. They are despite being called amal

721
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: spiders or sometimes they're called wind scorpions. Uh, they are

722
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: neither spiders nor scorpions. They are actually solifuges um. So

723
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: these are a variety of species of solifuges. They are

724
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: actually in the same class as spiders and scorpions and arachneta,

725
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: but they are not Uh. They are not spiders and

726
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: they're not scorpions. So their appearance is somewhat strange and alarming,

727
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: and for this reason, their ferocity is often much overreported.

728
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: So some species do grow up to be quite large.

729
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: They can grow up to be about six inches or

730
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: fifteen centimeters long, including the legs, so that's I can

731
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: see that being pretty intimidating, but most species are only

732
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: around two inches or five centimeters, so you know, adorable

733
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: little babies they are. They are a light tan color

734
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: with a long, oval shaped, segmented abdomen. They have eight

735
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: legs and two large petal palps that kind of look

736
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: like an extra set of legs, but they are actually

737
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: more used as sensory organs. Uh. Its head is acorn

738
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: shaped with large chilicae which are those pincers um, and

739
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: it breathes through sphericles which are tiny holes all over

740
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: its body, which is a common method of breathing in

741
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: a lot of invertebrates. So it makes this cute little

742
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: squeaking sound, if you can call it cute. That sounds

743
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: like a mouse squeaking by stridulation. So it rubs its

744
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: chillice together and creates this squeaking sound, much like a

745
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: cricket will make a sound by rubbing uh its wings together.

746
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: So this is a defensive sound. The soulfuges actually lack venom,

747
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: and so some speed she's of solofuges will use chirps

748
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: or hisses to ward off predators. So they're just skilled,

749
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: just little scared babies. Yeah, I don't feel like I'm

750
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: That's one way to look at it. Feel like I'm

751
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: not selling you on. I think I like, I have

752
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: no against spiders, I actually at all, you know, I

753
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: think there I try and leave them alone, you know,

754
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: even even in my house. Um, but like I saw,

755
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: and I saw, I saw I saw one hiking or

756
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: I've seen two actually since the pandemic. Actually I never

757
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: really hiked before that. And I was hiking and I

758
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: saw like a tarantula twice and so beautiful, I mean

759
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: it's just incredible to see one in the wild. It's

760
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: just I love it. It was I've seen a ton

761
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: of deer and bears, and the spider was my favorite

762
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: thing to say. Yeah, there are some tarantulas that are truly,

763
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: truly beautiful. I've held one before. It's it was a

764
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: friend's pet, and it's they're so like light and fluffy there.

765
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: It's it's both unsettling how light they are and it

766
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: also kind of like disarming, where it's like, oh, you're

767
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: just like a little little light poofball and then suddenly

768
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: it's like crawled halfway up your My arm is like

769
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: all right, I think we've we've made friends enough here today,

770
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: But right, who is your who is your friend? Like

771
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: p J. Harvey? Now I pictured p J Harvey. This

772
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: is an elementary squad. Okay, so um yeah, but but yeah,

773
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: soul fugures. Uh they are not spiders um or or scorpions,

774
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: but they do kind of look like a spider mixed

775
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: with a scorpion. And because of this look, I think

776
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: they spook people. They make them think they are much

777
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: more dangerous than they really are. There are myths about

778
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: it being able to outrun a human this isn't quite true.

779
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: So they're about half as fast as the world's fastest sprinter. Uh.

780
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: They do have top speeds some species of ten miles

781
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: per hour, which is sixteen kilometers per hour, so like

782
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: pretty fast. Yeah, I think they could catch up to you.

783
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: That's fast. That could catch me in a second. That's

784
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's very that's very as if I

785
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: can even run like five miles per hour, I'm you know,

786
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely not. If one of these soul if

787
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: you just wanted to eat me, they definitely could. But

788
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't want to eat you. I'm glad.

789
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad you. I'm glad. Animals are just mostly minding

790
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: just because they could easily really franks up. So the

791
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: only thing they want to have to do with humans

792
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: is maybe mooch off of the shade that we make

793
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: like with our bodies, so like they like to be

794
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: in the shade. They don't want to sit out in

795
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: the sun for too long because they can overheat um

796
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: and so they may like the only cases that they

797
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: would follow a human around would be because we have

798
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: this nice shade in our path and they just want

799
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: to chill out, which I think is kind of cute.

800
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: That is nice. I'm gonna carry an umbrella whenever I'm

801
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: in the desert, a little just like a little miniature

802
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: umbrella that you hold over it. Yeah, so cute. I

803
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: love that. So while humans have nothing to worry about

804
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: with solifuges, uh insects, spiders, scorpions, or even other smaller

805
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: species of solifuges, as well as small birds and reptiles,

806
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: do actually have something to be worried about. Because solifuges

807
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: are voracious eaters. They will constantly hunt to feed their

808
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: very rapid metabolism. They're unusual in this respect. Often spiders

809
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: or scorpions or other arachnids are ambush predators. They kind

810
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: of like to hide and wait for prey to come

811
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: towards them. But soul fugues are out hustling every day.

812
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: They are. It's all about the hustle with these guys.

813
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta respect it. Mm hmm. That's what

814
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: I've been told. You gotta respect the hustle. I respect

815
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: the nap. I God, I love naps. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

816
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: hustling is okay, But I'd put hustling like fourth like

817
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: maybe or even maybe even sixth right behind going to

818
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: the dentist. Yeah, I mean, but that's nice that these

819
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: spiders are out there doing it for themselves there, you know.

820
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: There they wake up every day with a little cup

821
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: of coffee and like every every little leg and uh

822
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, uh little little uh. Each cup of coffee

823
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: is like number one sales man of the month and

824
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: with a little tie. I don't know what. I don't

825
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: know what normal jobs is. Honestly, Uh, I don't know

826
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: what normal jobs is. That's a quote. I like that. Um,

827
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: I yeah, I think that. I wonder, Yeah, I wonder

828
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: about the like social lives of these spiders and about like, yeah,

829
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: they don't get to have any coffee, which they don't need.

830
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny what you project all these human

831
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: things Like it made me feel bad because I like

832
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: coffee so much. I was like, oh, poor spiders can't

833
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: have any coffee. But you know, they don't get They're

834
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: they're all ready to go, you know what I mean.

835
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: They're not like me. They're not a coffee is bird

836
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: bones or something? Yeah? Yes, And I can't believe they

837
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: can bite through bird bones. I mean bird bones to

838
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Speaker 1: be fair. Are pretty flimsy. I was about to say,

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Speaker 1: what do you They're actually not that hard to bite

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Speaker 1: through like a tooth pick. I'm chewing on something, you know,

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Speaker 1: and they are not. I will I will sometimes crack

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Speaker 1: open chicken bones. But that's a discussion for another time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a different podcast, Chicken Bone Chicken Bone crunch Our.

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Speaker 1: It's for people who enjoy the audio environment of hearing

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Speaker 1: chicken bones being crunched right now. Oh my god, whatever

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Speaker 1: that chicken bonemr. Well, chick I'm sure they got me

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Speaker 1: out on my other podcast. No bones about it, except

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Speaker 1: there is bones about it because they're crunching on bones

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Speaker 1: right in your ear and HD binaural trinaoral audio. So

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Speaker 1: you better cut this out of the podcast because this

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Speaker 1: is a good idea. People would pay good money for that.

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Speaker 1: The no bones about it except the bones about it

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Speaker 1: with Katie Golden Knight pending copyright. Yeah, it's totally AMR

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Speaker 1: podcast with Katie registered trade. Oh man, well crazy, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe I heart radio about this chicken crunching podcast.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is, it's pretty good. It's disrupting the

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Speaker 1: podcast industry. Um, you know, I'll help you out with round,

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Speaker 1: I'll round up and we'll talk about this. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about this after the show, but we'll make it happen.

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Speaker 1: So onto this week's mystery animal sound. Uh, here is

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Speaker 1: the hint. When you find out how this sound is.

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Speaker 1: When you find out how this sound is produced, I'll

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Speaker 1: bet I could knock you over with a feather. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear those like I did? Yeah? Yeah, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like the sound of makes some like like a beep.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny about that is you can't see

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Speaker 1: the video because it's a secret. But uh, this mystery

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Speaker 1: animals but is facing the camera and it does actually

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Speaker 1: do a little duty in the middle of it. So,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. But the sound is not thank god,

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Speaker 1: I don't have It's not coming from the duty. It's

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Speaker 1: coming from something else. Do you have any guesses as

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Speaker 1: to who is making this sound? That's that's a lot

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Speaker 1: of clues, But I, I mean, I just might as

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Speaker 1: well make a joke. I have no idea, like maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Uh, I can't even think like like

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Speaker 1: some kind of owl that lives on the ground, like

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Speaker 1: an owl, a daytime owl, time owl that lives on

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Speaker 1: the ground. I mean, there are no you're not. This

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Speaker 1: is not absurd. There art Oh no, a thing growing owls? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there burrowing Oh my god, I'm never going to be

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Speaker 1: outside bearing burrowing owls. Oh my god, I've wasted my

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Speaker 1: time checking the trees for like, Oh my gosh, I've

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Speaker 1: got to get more. I've only had an owl, helmet

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Speaker 1: and helmet when I went out at night, I didn't

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Speaker 1: have our Okay, so my guess is a you know,

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Speaker 1: my guess is some kind of bird. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. It sounds like a digital It

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Speaker 1: sounds like one of those birds that SIPs water in

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Speaker 1: the window, one of those automatic like birds things, those

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Speaker 1: those those mechanical birds, drinky birds that sucked the water. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: those are my two guests, either burrowing owl or one

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Speaker 1: of those sippy birds. Very good guesses. Um, The answer

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Speaker 1: to this will be revealed next week next winter. It's hell,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna be here towards for me the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life. I'll never tell you. Uh so

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Speaker 1: you'll just have to sit with that. Suppose I could listen.

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Speaker 1: I could listen. Uh So, if you think you know

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Speaker 1: the answer, you can write to me at Creature feature

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Speaker 1: Pod at gmail dot com. Chris, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me today on this very froggy, very ribbedy

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Speaker 1: ribbety time. I loved it so fun. Katie, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much and I'd come back any time. I really. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is not my wheelhouse, so it's very it's very

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Speaker 1: fun to uh you know, I never find myself talking

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Speaker 1: about this kind of stuff. Um, and uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like to share share the wheelhouse. Uh cool. So where

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Speaker 1: can people find Jim? Do you have got anything to plug? Sure?

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Speaker 1: I got um you can find me at the Crofton show,

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Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter. Um. I also write an advice

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Speaker 1: column called The Advice King for the Nashville Scene, which

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Speaker 1: I've been doing for almost eight years now. And um,

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Speaker 1: the big news for me is that, um, I have

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Speaker 1: a book coming out on Vanderbilt Vanderbilt University Press. It's

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Speaker 1: actually an anthology anthology of my advice columns called the

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Speaker 1: The Advice King Anthology, The Advice King Anthology, and it

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Speaker 1: comes out April fift and you can preorder it now

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Speaker 1: from Vanderbilt University Press website. And they started shipping just

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Speaker 1: like I just started getting pictures from people that's showing

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Speaker 1: that they got them in the map, and I still haven't.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have one, but but it's beautiful and

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Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. It's it's it's a big, fat

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Speaker 1: book of my advice columns, and my advice columns range

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Speaker 1: from being just silly to being quite serious, and so

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Speaker 1: like that, it's a Pagliacci joke where it's like Pagliacci

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Speaker 1: goes to the therapist and it's like, I'm sad. How

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Speaker 1: do I get cheered up? And the therapist is like, well,

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Speaker 1: there's this great clown that cheers everyone up. And then

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Speaker 1: the clown he's like, but I'm that clown. I think

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Speaker 1: that's how that joke goes. For you. It's like, like

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Speaker 1: I need some advice. It's like, well, have you checked

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Speaker 1: out this advice book. It's like, well, that's my advice

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Speaker 1: book and I don't even have a copy. Right. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a cool problem to have though for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: very excited to have that problem. So Yeah, The Advice

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Speaker 1: King Anthology on Vanderbilt Universe coming out April April fift that.

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Speaker 1: You can preorder it now and you can find the

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Speaker 1: show on the internet at Creature feature pot on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at creature feet pot on Twitter. That's et. That is

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Speaker 1: something very different. And you know I'm I'm Katie Golden,

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Speaker 1: so I'm on Twitter too. Just you know, most of

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Speaker 1: my tweets have been about Elden Ring latelad, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's just how it is. Sometimes about wondering the game,

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Speaker 1: the computer game. Oh okay, right, I pretended to like

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Speaker 1: I knew what that was. Um, I figured I figured

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Speaker 1: what it is. It's like a fantasy kind of like

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Speaker 1: a um, what do you call that? What's another famous

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Speaker 1: one of those like I'm not famous enough for me

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. I forget what I'm thinking. One more

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Speaker 1: thing I forgot to say. I have I have a

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Speaker 1: podcast called Colebrew Got me Like. That's on like you know,

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Speaker 1: all the podcast places, and it's good. And I forgot

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Speaker 1: to It's a podcast me and my brother do and

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Speaker 1: it's called Coldbrew Got me Like, and you can get

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Speaker 1: it on all the places. Sorry, I forgot Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: it's well now you've said it, um, And I've admitted

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Speaker 1: embarrassing facts about me, like that I play magic the

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Speaker 1: gathering gather magic was on the computer, and the cards

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Speaker 1: instead of being cards, it was like things moving around

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Speaker 1: on the screen that hit you with big swords and

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Speaker 1: kill you very bad all the time. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that magic the gathering was. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: it was a card. But yeah, well I'm gonna check it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop talking about Welcome to my new podcast.

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Speaker 1: New podcast that happens at the end of this podcast

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Speaker 1: where it's like I explain what computer games are to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the world's oldest man. Well, thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. Uh and thanks to the Space Classics for

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Speaker 1: their super awesome song Exo Lumina. Creature features a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts like the one

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Speaker 1: you just heard, visit the I R Radio app, Apple Podcast,

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Speaker 1: or guess what wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Do what you want, it's fine. See

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Speaker 1: you next Wednesday.