1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: As I spot from behind my giant roe bot eyes. 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: I keep him happy because I might fall out if 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: he cries scared of heights, so I might pass out 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: if he flies. I keep him all out of pilot 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: cuse I can't drive room enough for one. I'm telling 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: my homies that they can't ride unless it's sitting. 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: On the shoulders. 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Look this way too high. Let's try not to step 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: on the children. The news cameras filming this walking project building, 12 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Now that's whole selling holes like right around the toes 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: and the crackcad's bag at around the lower leg. It's 14 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: cooking police the station at the knees, and they do 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: drive bars like up and down the thighs, and there's 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: a car chase going on at the waist. There's a 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: vest on my chest or sitting in my room as 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: a looking out the face. Something to write about. Still 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: so got some damage from fighting the White House. Like, Hey, 20 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: welcome to the black Out Tips podcast, your host Rod 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: and and we're live on a Sunday with your feedback. 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Sorry Sunday feedback show, guys, ship, I'm. 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: Sorry, for the people go. I always get the feedback show. Surprise, nigga. 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: I actually took Saturday off because one I was just 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: feeling tired and I wanted to go see my brother 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: and his family and my nephews and stuff. And I 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: got to go visit all my you know, my brother, 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: his wife and my nephews. 29 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: And that was fun. 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Watch Florida be auburn and eat chicken wings. And I 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: made guacamole and zucchini chips. 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: You got some what is I called Uncle Rufus? 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: But Rufus he made us made some sauce, which is 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: actually an appropriated white person sauce. 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 3: They just named it after a black man. 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: That's fine. 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: It was delicious, though. 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I make up the imagine every black man named 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: Uncle Rufus. 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: They already did. 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: But the thing is, we also took the day off 43 00:01:54,240 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: in solidarity with our sister Amanda Seas. She was she 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: was kicked out of a party a few weeks ago. 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: They're in the Emmys, and as a black woman, you know, 46 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: we have to support this sister. So we said, you know, 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: no podcast for these niggas today, because until a Manda 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: Seals is free, we not free as people were not 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: free all of us. So hopefully this's a you know 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: that hopefully all the black podcasts this week take at 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: least one day off so that they can speak out 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: to the graven injustice. 53 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: That was done to this black woman, this black queen. Okay, 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: so check yourself. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: You see a lot of these podcasts say they go 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: up for black women and they not supporting Amanda Sells. 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: Do they really. 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: Think about it? Because we're the black artists. We speak, 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: we believe, and we act on what we speak. Okay, 60 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: all right, we say we support black women, even the 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: ones just dead ass, wrong and crazy, and it's been 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: three weeks and nobody's vouch for them or took they 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: side or expressed. 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Why everything happened. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: Uh. 66 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: You know, even if Easter Wright say hey, that's my 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: name is Paul, that's twin y'all, even you over Easter, right, 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: we more supportive because we took the day off. Okay, 69 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's Insecure. 70 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: Season four gonna be lit, and I'm gonna be here 71 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: for it. I will be here. Hopefully she don't get 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: killed off screen. 73 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: All right, y'all feedback shows where we talk about all 74 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: the stuff you guys had to say about the stuff 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: we had to say. 76 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: You can do it in a myriad of ways. 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: You can leave feedback via smell on the Skype seven 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: oh four five five seven zero one eighty six is 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm just realizing I never opened Skype. You can also 80 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: do stuff like go to the Blackouatis dot com voting 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: the polls, leave comments. 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: On those votes. You can do stuff like. 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: Email usmail dot com and give us your thoughts on 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: appropriation because apparently all your niggas decide to write us 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: a chapter length what appropriation means to me? Essay after 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: after I asked y'all politely not to even waste your 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: time writing it in because none of you niggas are 88 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: gona even agree with each other, but you will somehow 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: need to express yourself. It's sonestly amazing. Honestly, it's like 90 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: why do we. 91 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: Do the show? 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: And of course you can leave us five star reviews, 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: which is one of our favorite ways to lead feedback 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: for the show. You go on iTunes stitch your lead 95 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: five star reviews. We did get some and we will 96 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: be reading them. And of course you can also give 97 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: us your money by going to the Blackoutiars dot com 98 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: on the right hand side. 99 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: There's like a thing like, hey. 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: You want to get on some money. You want to 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: do it one time. You want to do a recurring 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: every month, you can do that. And all you got 103 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: to do is go to the blackoutis dot com look 104 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: on the right hand side and you can and you 105 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: can become a donator. 106 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: And we shot them out as well, so they will 107 00:04:51,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: be getting shout outs depression. Today's a new day, new day, 108 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: New then row Donna in says, thank you. Lynn Wood C. 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: Will appreciate you as well. Lawrence C. No relation. We 110 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: appreciate you. And then to get another scene that B Coleman, 111 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: okay BC another one in there, Uh, keep it all. 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Cedric W. Thank you, Preston F. Thank you, 113 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Preston Calvin inn over there with that McDonald's. 114 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. Monica T. Thank you as well. James G. 115 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Girard L. Thank you, Gerard, Lenika M. 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, Jason F. Terry W, Tyrone M Jasmine A, 117 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: thank you, Jazz Mike Irvin the Playmaker, Alexander M. Waste 118 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: bs Varsura, Eric m oh attitude check pray you know 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: shout out to our homecoming Ben this weekend, Dostreet Juh Girl, 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Shannon Book, Shanna Shanna. 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: You know from MTR network. Oh my aid, Rachel h. 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: And now the other one is loading. We still got 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: some more to go. Tho. 124 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: Just take your time, okay. Uh, but yeah, we appreciate 125 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: everybody donating. I mean, it doesn't matter the amount. It 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: could be a lot or a little. 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: We get the same. 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody. Deborah, Oh, thank you, Mary H. 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: Appreciate your Mary. 130 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Johannine On, Thank you, Stefan H. Thank you Stefan. Jonathan W. 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: We got a brand new recurring donator. Go to the 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: new members class, brand new Darwin M. 133 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: Thank you Darwin. We appreciate you. We believe in natural 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: selection as well. Come on, play me out. 135 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: Even though I smile, I have working so a smile. 136 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: Even though I've been for a while, I smile smile. 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: It's so hard to. 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: Look up when you look down. 139 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: I sure would hate to see you give up. Now 140 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: you look so much better when you smile. Mi for me. 141 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: Can you just smile, oh me, right now? 142 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: Smile for me? 143 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Smile? Can you smile? Oh me? 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: And the people say, alright, alright, let's get into the 145 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: five star a few Yeah, you. 146 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: Talking about a homecoming. We haven't been to a home coming, 147 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 4: and I could imagine if it was back like when 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: we was when we were there, I'm pretty sure we 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: would be considered the old people now, you know, because 150 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: when I when I went to feb Yeah, we yeah, 151 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: we're old people. Yeah what says almost twenty years? Yes 152 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: we're old? Yeah, we would be the old people. Be 153 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: like y'all know this is the only week they gonna 154 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: have chittlings and hall mall at the calf. 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: All right, let me get to these five star reviews. 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: Uh, old black people. 157 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: If I go, give me a catfish sandwich plate. 158 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: Come on with white bread mustard. 159 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: Five five stars. 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: The titles five by Doug Russell, who says Rod and 161 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: Karen strike a balance. Very few shows get right if 162 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: you catch every episode that pays dividends and recurring bits, 163 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: jokes and other topics that build over time. But if 164 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: you miss a few episodes or fall off four minute, 165 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: you can jump right back in without feeling left lost 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: or excluded. 167 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. 168 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: I really do hope we give off that vib To 169 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: be honest, man, we really strive for more of a 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: almost like when you listen to a daily radio show, 171 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: so that you know, like like if people miss the 172 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: episode of Steve Harvey Morning Show, I know y'all are like, 173 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't listen to that, but whatever, if you miss 174 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: all your local Power ninety eight or whatever, you don't 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: then say I'm I miss Tuesday. 176 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: I'll never go back. 177 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: But people do that with podcasts sometimes, which I'm find 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: to be a little bit weird, just that completion this gene. 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: But with a show like Guys that comes out five 180 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: days a week ish, you don't really have to do that. 181 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: Like we'll be back talking on current events. If we 182 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: say something that really flocks your like curiosity, you can 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: always go back and listen to it later earlier episode. 184 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: So I hope people don't, you know, tap out. 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we restart every episode like The Simpsons, no matter 186 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: what happened in the episode Them barting Them. Been in 187 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: elementary school for twenty five years now. 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Brit Here five stars Brick Chris three says this podcast 189 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: is fantastic. I was introduced it to it through my 190 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: cousin Nikki's shot to Nikki when you talked about childish Gambinos. 191 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: This is America. I've been listening ever since. Wow, that's 192 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: been like a year ago. Shout out to that song 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: and I still fucking that song heavy. Only think I'm 194 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: mad about it. They ain't come up with an album 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: after that drop it. 196 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: I was mad. I still love this in America. 197 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: Uh, this podcast gets me through my commute to work 198 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: and when I take my dog on walks. 199 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: Thanks for riding, care for your hard work. You the best, 200 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. 201 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: Thank you. 202 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Shout out to the dogs getting walked out here. 203 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Come on, I came to learn of the struggles of 204 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: women in LGBTQS. Five Stars by John Quavius underscore c 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: and says and stay. 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: For the warmth and humor. Oh that's dope. 207 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: I don't know who recommended us in that fashion, But 208 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: like I said, I don't feel like the goal of 209 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: our shows that educate people. But if a byproduct of 210 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: our show and the things we choose to talk about 211 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: and the way we talk about them, is that people 212 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: feel like I'm learning. I love that, you know what 213 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean, because I know that's how I learned. So 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, I listened to different shows and sometimes it's 215 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: out of the beaten path or something. I wouldn't have heard. 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: And you know, the goal is of those shows that 217 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: I listened to is really just to hear folks give 218 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: their own opinion from their point of view. And you know, 219 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm really educated and fed from those things and 220 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: been like, okay, so. 221 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: This is how folks feel. 222 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: I love you guys, by and this is for our 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: spoil movie review. We got one new review on fos 224 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: star review on iTunes for sport movies, The black Out 225 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: to Sport movie reviews. You guys can check it out. 226 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: I can't remember last two. I think we only reviewed 227 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: two movies last month. So it's like Fast and Furious. 228 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Fast and Furious the prequel with Hobson, Shaw 229 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: and Angel has fallen. 230 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,239 Speaker 4: So weekend we were looking at you like watch yeah. 231 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: So we didn't get a lot of reviews the last month. 232 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: We're not going force ourselves to watch nothing. 233 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we try not to watch movies we know 234 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: we want to enjoy anyway, Love you guys, five stars 235 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: by big Ry BK thirty five, who says I really 236 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: enjoy getting new episodes from you guys. 237 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: I really get a thrill when I see you have 238 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: a new movie review. I like that. 239 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: I disagree with you about some films, but your discussions 240 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: make me want to see movies. I may not have 241 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: given it. Oh, I may not have given a shot 242 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: just to have an opinion. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. 243 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: Man. 244 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: Like I said, the goal of our movie reviews is 245 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: not this is the definitive take, I think, at least 246 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: for me, when I give a review, I really do 247 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: try to sit and think about what people would like 248 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: and what people wouldn't like, and not just do a 249 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: let me trash or praise this film and leave. 250 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: No room for anything else. But at the end of 251 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: the day, not everyone's going to agree agreed. 252 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: It's a subjective things, it's art. So the goal for 253 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: me as a reviewer has never been the shift opinion 254 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: to make people form a different opinion. It's always been 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: to just give my take on it and to consider 256 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 2: other people's takes on it. 257 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, And I try my best to be 258 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: like that. There are some movies that I can even 259 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: be and I'm very biased on and I'm like, I 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: love it, I love it, I love it, you don't 261 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: like it, I really don't care, you know, But it's 262 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: still just my opinion on how I feel about this 263 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: particular thing. 264 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just noticed, like when I listen to other reviews, 265 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: it's like almost like a fighter's energy of like I 266 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: came to debate or present a case about against or 267 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: for this movie and argue against everyone who disagrees. 268 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: And I mean, that's a way to do it. I 269 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: know a lot of people that do it. 270 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Some of my friends that do movie review podcasts, that's 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: the tone of their podcast. 272 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: I just wanted to do something different. 273 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't want our podcast to be you know, we 274 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: like X Men and now fuck you. You know, like I 275 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: kind of wanted to be like, well, yo, this is 276 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: what I liked about it. And that's that's why we 277 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: break it down the likes and dislikes. Instead of just, 278 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, let's discuss the movie. It's like, well would 279 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: you like and what you dislike? And I just did 280 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: afore movie review with Chris Lambeth on Friday for a joker, 281 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: and it does end up being an hour and a 282 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: half a lot of you know, Chris, if you guys 283 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: like Chris Lambeth and know our reviews is you know, 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: the latter half of it turns into a discussion about 285 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: race and movies in general, and criticism and stuff like that. 286 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: It's a still fun listen, but like the point is, 287 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: like we talked about Joker, where we liked or we didn't, 288 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: so it didn't just become a this is, you know, 289 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: the greatest movie ever or the worst? 290 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: You know? All right? We got one five star review on. 291 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: Stitcher, which was from a non Joe who says five 292 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: stars and the title is five star one of my 293 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: favorite podcasts to listen. Great format and tons of content. 294 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Love the recent this too much, the seventeenth Mama line, 295 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: laughing my ass off, Thank you, thank you. You know, 296 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: try to me and BOSSI have fun. Like I said, 297 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: she's traveling. 298 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: So it'll probably be a few a couple of weeks 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: at least until we do another episode. 300 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I appreciate you' all for listening. I 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: appreciate you' all for writing in and leaving responses to 302 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: that show and letting us know what you think and 303 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: your theories, and mostly I appreciate you all for not 304 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: spoiling it. Like I haven't even watched last week's episode 305 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: and nobody was in my mentions like wow, rod this 306 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: that or the other. You know, so hopefully that continues 307 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: up for a couple of weeks because I like to 308 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: binge right before we record. 309 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: Because I like to be fresh, you know what I mean. 310 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: I like to walk up in there and drop drop 311 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: that fresh hot take, you know. And Bosie sometimes she 312 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: watches it two three times like she'll she'll she'll break 313 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: it down. 314 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: So we'll see if she can keep that up. Though. Schedule, Yeah, 315 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: this schedule. 316 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: Is gonna be crazy, man So, but it's all based 317 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: off of just success of her and her book, man so, like, I'm. 318 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: So excited for her path. 319 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: Fee so excited. 320 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into y'all's comments on the website 321 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: the black guy who tips dot Com. 322 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: Like I said, you go there. Each episode has a post. 323 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: You can click on the post, you can leave comments, 324 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: you can vote in the post, all of that stuff. 325 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: The feedback episode was called Punches and Hugs. It was 326 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: episode nineteen sixty five. Angela. 327 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Danelle says, uh, oops, I meant to leave my review 328 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: on the main feed rather than sport movie review feed. 329 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Apologies. Uh, you know what, We're fine. We need those 330 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: reviews on. 331 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Sport movies anything to get us some five stars. 332 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: Come on Falcons. 333 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: Diva says, greetings karenon Rodder just wanted to clarify y'all 334 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: were not adding stress to my life. O. 335 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: She talked about needing to take. 336 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: A break from just so like current media and stuff 337 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: like that, and uh, but she said I would y'all 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: weren't adding stressed to my life. But I was at 339 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: a point where I was willing to try a TVGWT fast. 340 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: It didn't last long, though, because y'all bring too much 341 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: last to my life. 342 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: Smooches. Thank you, Diva, thank you. 343 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: And like I said, man, I'm not even like even 344 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: if we would have been, that's okay, like saying, I 345 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: don't take it personal, like all this stuff is for 346 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: a season. 347 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: You know. 348 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: We have some listeners that they go back years and 349 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, like they're night, we met them, we've talked 350 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: to them, and then just one day they're like, you 351 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: ain't I'm off of this. 352 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen to another show. 353 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: And we don't take it personal. There's people that are 354 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: fans of ours. A guest comes on this, then you 355 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: know they writing into the other to the other people's show, 356 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: and I'm like, great, you know what I mean, love 357 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: on them too. 358 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you know with the thing like with 359 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: me running the business behind the scenes, doing all this 360 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: different work. You know, I see stuff like when someone 361 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: becomes premium, when they stop being premium, when somebody's like, 362 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to donate anymore, when people's like people's 363 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: life circumstances change, Like maybe you had a job where 364 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: you could spend ten hours a week listening to a 365 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: podcast and keeping up with stuff, and you know there's 366 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: people they rotate in and out of the chat room 367 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: sometimes during you know, everything has a season, and if 368 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: you don't learn to not take it personally, to let 369 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: things go, to embrace that, you know, to not fill 370 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: the void with insecurity because like you know, because I 371 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: think if you're insecure and someone stops listening, it's like 372 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: a vacuum's credit. 373 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: It's like, well, what happened? Did I do something? You know? 374 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: How do I fix this? 375 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: And I think having that type of obsessive personality and. 376 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: Stuff can really it's not good for creativity. 377 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: So if someone were to tell us like, hey, we 378 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: had to take I had to take a break, or 379 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't listening, but I'm back, I'm really more celebrating 380 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: cool you back, you know, and even if you're just 381 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: back for a week and you go, I'm done with this. 382 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: That's fine too, Like I'm never gonna try to take 383 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: it personal because it's like I said, you just don't 384 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: know what's happening with other people. Somebody could just like, 385 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, I've had people us when they couldn't be 386 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: premium anymore and be like, you know, I lost my job. 387 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be back though, I love you guys, blah 388 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: blah blah. I'm like, you didn't even have to do that, 389 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: Like I don't want you to. 390 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you. 391 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: Don't owe me shit, like even listening to this, there's 392 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: a million podcasts you could be listening to. So I 393 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: just try to move in the spirit of thankfulness. So 394 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: I was never and no point was all like we 395 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: added stress to her life so that you know, she 396 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: gotta go and feeling. 397 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: A way about it. 398 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: If it would have been true, you say it's not, 399 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: which is fine, But if it would have been true 400 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: that some of the topics we cover we talk about race, gender, 401 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: lgbt Q issues like crime, like, uh, some of this 402 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: ship could be stressful to people. Yeah, heavy, yeah, and 403 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: and we don't really do trigger warners. 404 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: We do you a we give you a like a 405 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: h description of the episode and stuff, so you can 406 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: read from the description if something in there is gonna 407 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: bother you. But you know, we just do the show 408 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: and then and talk like we talked. 409 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I if it would have been stretched out, 410 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: I would have totally been like, that's cool, and take 411 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: care of you first. 412 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, because because you come first and we understand it. 413 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: Everybody can't put five on it, like we truly understand that. 414 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: So it's one of those things with Hey, if you 415 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 4: can't put a five dollar bill, you can do the 416 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: five stars, which is free. So it's one of those 417 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: things where we don't. 418 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: But even with that I'm saying I'm not even talking 419 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: about I'm saying I noticed, like when people are in 420 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: the chat, when people interact with us on Twitter, and 421 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: then you know, because of just the way my brain works, 422 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: I also notice when people stop. 423 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, you know. 424 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: The only thing I really don't like is when people 425 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: do the like passive aggressive like now everything I'm saying 426 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: they disagree with, Now everything that's saying, they're needling me 427 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: and picking. Like if that's the case, I don't do 428 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: hate follows. 429 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: Just leave me alone. 430 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 6: Yep. 431 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: But if you still like like us, you just don't 432 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: fuck with our show no more. 433 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: Yo, I'm cool with that. 434 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: I am cool with that too. I'm not gonna kick 435 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 4: you out the room. 436 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the same way, I try not to get too 437 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: up when things are up and people are like when 438 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: we were on Vice, I wasn't like and now we're 439 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: headed to the big leagues, Like I just like, if 440 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: you hang around me, you see, I'm still like, yeah, 441 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: this ain't really gonna do shit for us. We'll see, 442 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: you know. And that's not a negative device. It's just 443 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: that's my mentality. If I don't get too high, I 444 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 2: can't get too low. If somebody is off of us, 445 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: I can't. I won't be mad at them for being 446 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 2: off of us. And so that you know, I notice it, 447 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: but I don't reach out to try to like gilp 448 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: people into coming back or or or it be invasive 449 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: into their lives like you, you know, and think about 450 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: how many times we create these stories in our heads 451 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: and it's so unproductive. I'm meeting you up like man, 452 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: so you don't fuck with the show no more, and 453 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: you're like, Nigga, I got cancer. Oh, oh my bad, 454 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm bad, you know, Like it's not my fucking business. 455 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever, whatever reason, you didn't even have to 456 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: write and explain. We love that you felt the need 457 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: to write in and say hey, I'm back. But none 458 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: of y'all have to explain shit to me. Man, You 459 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: don't owe me nothing nothing. 460 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: Are you proud of yourself the whole? Yes? Or no? 461 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm proud of myself. 462 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes, all right. Eighty seven percent of the audience agrees 463 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: with you. Thirteen percent say no, they are not proud 464 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: of themselves. Black Steve says, despite how cronk I got 465 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: at the Thrive Talks event, your boys come a long way. 466 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Try and raise a daughter gotta be my ultimate accomplishment. Though. 467 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Steve, we had a good time with Steve Man 468 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: and the Thrive Talks was was so fun. 469 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 6: Man. 470 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: Shout out to our fans that came out there. 471 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, but it felt like we 472 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: were the only people that had fans there. We were 473 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: so okay, caring notes for sure. Yeah, and you know 474 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: we were yeah okay. 475 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: So it was good to be represented. 476 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 4: So if they were there, they didn't make it known 477 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: that they were fans. Yeah, So it was our fans 478 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: are like, I'm here Hey, niggas, I'm here. 479 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: You know it was cool Man. 480 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Episode nineteen sixty six Sunday Service Sellout talked about Eddy 481 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: returning to stand up George callin sixty nine Bunch of Stuff. 482 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Chubb Zero says, hello, karenon Rod, I gotta say I 483 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: was once a huge Easy fan. I even named my 484 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: rescue Pitt Pablo after my favorite Kanye album. Oh yeah, 485 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: Life of Pablo Man. I swear that album was slept 486 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: on man. I even let that Rebel Flag fiasco slide. 487 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy? 488 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: Man? 489 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes y'all bring up shit and I'm like, when did 490 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: this happen? 491 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: He's done so much stuff it's hard to keep track. 492 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: Like I don't even remember the Rebel Flag name. I'm 493 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 3: sure it was bad or something like that. 494 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 4: Yeah he did. It was a jacket if. 495 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: But when he popped up well on TMZ talking about 496 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: slavery was a choice. I had to step back. 497 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: So now he got a new album coming out, Like 498 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: you said, Rod, it'll be easy ignore him if it's. 499 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 3: Whack always, but what if it's fire? 500 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: You know, most rappers is not all like to uh 501 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: to talk about that past experience? 502 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: Oh if not all talk about the past experiences. 503 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: What if Kanye gets on a dope ass beat but 504 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: he's talking about when he went to the White House 505 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: and kiss Trump's ass, it's a note for me, Dog, 506 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Dog, that's might. That might be what the 507 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: album is, but uh, anyway, I'm not the thing for 508 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 2: me man. And this is nothing personal to you Christians 509 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: out there, But anytime Soon started doing gospel rap, I'm out. 510 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: They don't even I always tap out like I'm your 511 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: fucking jay Z made a gospel album, Kendrick, I don't 512 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: be caring like you gotta fool me into liking some 513 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: gospel shit. 514 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: I gotta think it's real rap and. 515 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: You got. 516 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: Nephews, like what's happening here? 517 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: Like low Key Jesus Walks might be one of my 518 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: least favorite Kanye West songs because it's so simplistic even 519 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't hate it, but it's just not 520 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: like that wasn't the song that made me be like, 521 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: y'all fuck with Kanye West. I was like, Okay, I 522 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: guess you know. I'm just it's just not for me. 523 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: So when he say a whole ass gospel album, I'm good. 524 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: I didn't fuck with that. Snoop dogg Gospel album that 525 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: want to. 526 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: Beat or like, I don't think I heard of it, 527 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: but I never sit down and actually listened to it. 528 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't be listening this shit like that, man, Like, 529 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm good man, y'all gotta talk about some bitches and hoes, man. 530 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck's Snoop? 531 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 7: Like? 532 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: You ain't s fucking weed no more? What's gonna happen? 533 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't. 534 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: I don't need to see this. 535 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: Uh, But anyway, the poets, are you gonna cop that 536 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: Kanye gospel album? 537 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 3: Seven percent said yes, Karen. 538 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: It depends okay for me. I mean yes, I'm gonna 539 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 4: listen to it. Yes, I'm I'm gonna ignore it. I'm 540 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 4: gonnaten to it. Yes, And so if it ain't good, 541 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 4: I mac like the shit never existed and keep it pushing. 542 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: Nine say no, I'm gonna tell you right now. No, 543 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: it's enough for me. We had comments. Black Steve said, 544 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: y'all wild and Yeezy being trashed for a long time. 545 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: That don't mean I got a lot of myself Like 546 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: Pablo a slap. I thought Pablo slap, but you do 547 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: know he dropped the album after that, and I noticed 548 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: you didn't mention it. 549 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: It's quite interesting. He also did some collaborations with some people. 550 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: Kids see ghosts, and that's all you need to know, sir. 551 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: Not a lot coming up about that, Anonymous says. Regarding 552 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: canceling problematic artists. You may not remember last year there 553 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: were a Cuban Puerto Rican artists name Sabrina Claudio that 554 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 2: repeatedly used the N word on Instagram several years ago 555 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: when she was in grade school and said other unsavory things. 556 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: About black women. 557 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: I remember that before this news came out, I was 558 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: bumping her music on the regular and guess what I 559 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: did after still bumping it on the regular. I'm a 560 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: black woman myself and was hurt by her comments, but 561 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: she apologized, I guess, and that was a long time ago, 562 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: and I love her music. I'm ashamed. But whatever, I like, 563 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: what I like, smiley face, I mean, that's pretty much me. 564 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't. 565 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: But see, that's the thing I just admittedly tell people 566 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: I don't cancel shit. I think it goes in one 567 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: ear out the other. 568 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: Because most people don't pay you no attention. They feel 569 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 4: like I canceled, you canceled No. 570 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, like whenever someone tries to apply their morality to me. 571 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm always like, you don't listen to me and value 572 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: me as a person. So I don't want to discuss 573 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: this with you. Talking to my brother yesterday, man, we 574 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: were talking about the Chappelle special and stuff and how 575 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: we felt about it, and you know, I was like, 576 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: I thought it was good because he's always good, and 577 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: like I look at comedy the way I look at 578 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: almost like sports, where like Tom Brady can come out 579 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: and have a tom Brady game where he plays pretty well, 580 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: and then he can have a tom Brady game where 581 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: he just plays flawlessly. 582 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 3: Right, You're like, god, damn, I see why he went 583 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 3: in Super Bowl. Well, to me, I'm like, Dave Chappelle 584 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: had a tom Brady game, Like I like some of it, 585 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: didn't like some of it, and I leave it at that. 586 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: You know, I don't have to like defend, Like if 587 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: Tom Brady throws an interception, do I have to run 588 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: on the field and be like no, that interception was 589 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: like That's how it felt about. Like whenever he does 590 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 2: like his transphobic gas shit, I'm like, yeah, those are 591 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: those are pick sixes. Dog went them jokes to me? 592 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: Went the other way. They weren't very high quality jokes. 593 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: They were kind of like other ship. He put a 594 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: way more into when you can tell, you know, And 595 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: so I look at it that way, and his highs 596 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: are very high. 597 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: His lows, to me are very low. So but so 598 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: many people these days feel like. 599 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: They have to defend the person, and they have to 600 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: defend even the shit that they claim not to agree 601 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 2: with out of some sort of solidarity. And I think 602 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: that they're really missing the point with that. But that's 603 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: why I don't discuss shit with them. I save stuff 604 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: for the podcast or in person with people. 605 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and everybody has their line. There are some people 606 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: I like and enjoy their shit. Them as a person, 607 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: there's a whole nother thing. And like, like you said, 608 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: because of the age of the Internet, we know more 609 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: about artists and years ago we would not have known 610 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: about So I think a lot of people they feel 611 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: this connection with. If I support your music, I support 612 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: you right, and to an extent it's true. But to 613 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: an extent I know, on certain people, I'm like, Okay, yeah, 614 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 4: you're problematic, but this shit bangs, and I want them 615 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: to say that. But every you know, for some people, 616 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: because they put that morale up. I listen to your music, 617 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: I support you. They want everybody else to feel like that, 618 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: and I'm like, nah, douw Okay, you don't fuck with 619 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 4: him cook, but you can't make me stop fucking with him. 620 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 621 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: People always say shit like can you separate the art 622 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: from the artists? And they actually like philosophically as if 623 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: there's a quandary for them, And I guess I don't 624 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: know why, but it's just never been a thing for me, 625 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: Like I've never felt a connection to someone as a 626 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: person because I like that art like a connection in 627 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: that I have to defend them because I like this thing, right. 628 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: Cause that's the thing. I'm not defending them either. That's 629 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: the thing I listen. I might listen to or watch 630 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: whatever they're doing and go, Okay, yeah they're problematic, but 631 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: what you don't see me doing is standing and defending 632 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: their actions. 633 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 634 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: It's just weird to me, but I mean, but it's 635 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: a big thing for most people can't make that separation. 636 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: And so you know, and especially if you're in the 637 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: same demographic as a person, like if you're a straight 638 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: black man, you're probably gonna be like, there's nothing Eddie 639 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: Murphy or Chappelle could. 640 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: Say that, I would be like that was little too far. 641 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: You know, if you're a black woman, you know there's 642 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: black women that you defending specifically because it's like I 643 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: feel a kinship with this black woman, you know. So 644 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: there's like people that pick these groups and shit and 645 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: they attached to it. But I'm like, I don't know, 646 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: It's just I guess maybe as an impath, I can 647 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: kind of see empathy for everybody. I can see somebody's 648 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: side or something if it's somewhat logical and reasonable, but 649 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't. 650 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: Mean I have to defend it or agree with it correct. 651 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 652 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: Detroit Retire sim says, Hello, Rod and Karen. I always 653 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: know your episodes and it shows I would have to 654 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: disagree with you regarding Kanye being back or all the 655 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: way back that church service that he did last week 656 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: and was in Detroit at the now newly renamed Aretha 657 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: Franklin Amphitheater aka Sheen Park, which is an outdoor ampatheater 658 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: where concerts like this are hell throughout the summer. In 659 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: my book, I do not consider it to be a 660 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: sellout event when the tickets are free in Detroit. 661 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: If you give anything out for free, people will come 662 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: and take the free stuff. I do agree with you 663 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: that if you want to get back with black people, 664 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: the best way to do it is to church religion. 665 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: A large segment. Well, hold on, let me stop you 666 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: right there. The fact that these niggas went. 667 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: For free anyway is still there's a cost to free. 668 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: You gotta take your ass out somewhere to attend. And 669 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: the fact that it sold out in eight minutes, that's nah, 670 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: he back. I'm like, I you just you do have 671 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: to just disagree, cause if he was quote unquote canceled 672 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: and all this shit that people said eight minutes or no, 673 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: eight minutes, like motherfucker's been Like, I don't give a 674 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: fuck of his free I don't fuck with him. If 675 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: Corissette Missel did a free concert somewhere, it's not selling 676 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: out in eight minutes like it's that's that's a ridiculous 677 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: amount of fast. 678 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: Like so I want to say that part first. The 679 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: second part of it. 680 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: He was the top grossing rapper in money on the 681 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: Forbes list did last year, right, money don't lie, So 682 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: he's not he's back or shit. If he ever went 683 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: anywhere he's back, you know what I'm saying, because that's 684 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: really a year after his make America Great Again shit 685 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: and he's back to me. 686 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I just don't know how 687 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: you can can deny that because the money speaks. 688 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: Even the way that people share his ship on social media, 689 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: with the Sunday Service ship that he's doings, they they 690 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: be they like, I don't even funk with him like that, right, 691 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: I can't help, but see it. I haven't listened to 692 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: any of it, but I can't help. But no, I 693 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: take it back. I did listen to one that said 694 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: so Anxious was because someone said this sounds like so anxious, 695 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: and it was like it was like so anxious, but 696 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: with Jesus on it. 697 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah I haven't heard. 698 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah it's cool, but it was like I clicked play 699 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: because people was like this, this nigga just remixed so anxious. 700 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: This ain't actual gospel songs. And I was like, so Jesus, 701 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: me and me at the throne in the temple. I'm like, 702 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: this nigga is killing. 703 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: He gonna get because you're so Jesus. 704 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: Come on to the clown, come on to the crown 705 00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: up glory. 706 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: I love it when you're talking Holy it'll be come 707 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: on Jesus, Yes, but yeah, I like I listened to 708 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: like thirty seconds that shit. It was like, y'all are 709 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 3: wild and right now. 710 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, this, like I don't say it with any 711 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: judgment of people for allowing him back in. I really 712 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: said more with judgment for people acting like they weren't 713 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: going to correct, you know, like the whole time I 714 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: was like, nothing's really gonna happen in this, dude. 715 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: And sometimes I think, and not just saying this is 716 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: for the person rode in. I think some sometimes people 717 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: take things so personally like this is how I feel, 718 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: and they project this is how everybody else should feel. 719 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: And if you don't feel like I feel, there's something 720 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 4: wrong with you despite what the numbers say, right, because 721 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like you said that free, 722 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 4: so that means that people didn't have to pay for them, 723 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: which means people would have paid for them, but people 724 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: didn't pay because it was free. And people still have 725 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: to get out there, travel out there, make arrangement, total whatever. 726 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: So you do have people going to an event this free, 727 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: which is something that do you know how many people 728 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: get very free shit? And people go, I don't give 729 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: a fuck if it's free, I'm not attending. 730 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: This right, A large statement of African Americans eat that 731 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: religious stuff up, and once again we'll do that forgiveness 732 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: thing if you use religion as a vessel. If a 733 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: black family people can forgive a white supremacist who gunning 734 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: down their love whent Aka hugging and forgiving the off 735 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: duty cop from gunning down the most perfect black man 736 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: since Barack Obama in his own apartment, then it will 737 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 2: be very easy. 738 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: For Kanye to for be forgiven for hugging on the Trump. Yeah. Yeah, 739 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: I think you're talking about that, both John. 740 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: Verdict and his nineteen year old brother hugging Amber Geiger 741 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: in the court. 742 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: And it was definitely a very like emotional image for 743 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 3: a lot of people. 744 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: I saw people going off for a couple of days 745 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: about that, sharing it with the kind of cum smell this, 746 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: you know, tweets and. 747 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 3: A lot of hyperbolic like black like Mark. 748 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: It's funny to me because because I'm not religious, but 749 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 2: like people were saying shit like if I die. 750 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 3: And my family hug that my killer, my ghost's gonna 751 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: haunt them. 752 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: And then one person was like, if my my family 753 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: would hug the killer and then choka in the courtroom 754 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: then and I'll be laughing from hell. And I was like, 755 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: and then when your family gonna trial, they family a 756 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: hug her, then they'll killed. Like like, it's just be 757 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 2: a big it'd be a big like Looney Tunes version 758 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: of just them all going back to the hell at 759 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: the same time. 760 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: But but yeah, it kind of was kind of a 761 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: weird thing for me. 762 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 2: I talked about in a pregame a bit where I 763 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: feel like whatever dogma and a person that makes them 764 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: willing to forgive something that egregious. I know, I don't 765 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 2: possess that. I'm not gonna knock it. I do find 766 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: it to be an admirable quality. 767 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I think. 768 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: If you do believe in a God, forgiveness is the 769 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 2: closest thing you can have to that God. 770 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: I don't think. I think people knock it in a 771 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: time like this, but they're not gonna keep that same energy. 772 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: But I think people knock it because we're upset, but 773 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: technically religious people, that is what they're saying, that that's 774 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: the reason God is God, that's the reason Jesus is Jesus, 775 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: is that he would look at you and say, you've 776 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: done some things that other people that are human find unforgivable. 777 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 3: But I don't. 778 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: You know, that's why you got murderers on death road 779 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: that become religious. You know, that's the first thing that happens, 780 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: is they're sending priests and stuff to talk to these people. 781 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: And you know, that's why the. 782 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: Deathbed confession is a thing like supposedly God can forgive 783 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 2: you of anything, and so if the highest echelon of 784 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: being made in His image and all that stuff is 785 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: to forgive, yes, you're gonna have some people who's internal 786 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: makeup is dedicated to forgiveness as the ultimate overcoming of 787 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 2: the suffering that they experienced on earth. What I feel 788 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: is that that's a very personal decision individually for every 789 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: human being to make. And I wish I hadn't seen it, 790 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: you know, I wish I hadn't seen. 791 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: What he did. 792 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's so personal. I wish it 793 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 2: would have happened in the closed door. Now, maybe he 794 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: wanted the world to see it, and that's okay if 795 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 2: he did, But I just I don't know, man, my 796 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: mind just I just couldn't have I couldn't have done it. 797 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't have done it myself. I recognize the I 798 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: hope that he's not on the internet seeing what people 799 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: are saying about him, and I just recognized that that's 800 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 2: just a tough situation to be in. And I also 801 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: have envy for the people who saw it and went 802 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: the fuck off because to them it was such a 803 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: betrayal of I guess the attention they paid to that trial, 804 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: like they feel almost entitled and oled his s fight 805 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: like they want because people were saying shit like because 806 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: I said, you know, white people want feel like they 807 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: demand and forgiveness from black victims of these crimes, and 808 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: white people are kind of black people. 809 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 3: Are demanding like spite almost correct. 810 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 2: Like I remember people got upset when the Charston nine happened, 811 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: that the families were so quick to be like, we 812 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: forgive this young man. And you brought up something in 813 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: here that I wonder if you realize the irony of 814 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: what you said. You said the most perfect black man, 815 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 2: says Obama. Why is both John the most perfect black man? 816 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: I know why? 817 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 2: Because they had that video floating around of him leading 818 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: church worship service and y'all don't know him more than 819 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 2: his family does. 820 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 3: So if his families. 821 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: He was the kind of Christian that would want her forgiving, 822 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: I can't counterman that with but I feel like, right, 823 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't know this man. I'm you know, I feel 824 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: kinship because he's black and I wish he was alive, 825 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: but I don't know him. So I feel like a 826 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: lot of people need to look at that own entitlement 827 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: and arrogance and or saying that the most important thing 828 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: here is this black family that lost a family member 829 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 2: and are racing that with our own personal a grievances 830 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: and being like I would have did it this way. Well, 831 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: hopefully you never get the chance. Correct, Hopefully none of 832 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 2: us get the chance to do it the way we 833 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: want to do it. Hopefully all of our relatives stay 834 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: alive and they're not getting murdered in cold blood by 835 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: some fucking racist off duty cop. Hopefully that's not happening 836 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: to us, and we never get to find out what 837 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: we would have done in his stead. You know, we 838 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: look at it like that verdict, like we tune in 839 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: and check it on this like like, okay, you have 840 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: the murder. Okay, then you have all the news around 841 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 2: like did she cover it up or not? 842 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 3: Then you have. 843 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: You know, the family, then you have let's look into 844 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 2: both in John's life okay. Then you have a trial, okay, 845 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 2: then you had a verdict, okay, then you had the sentencing. 846 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 2: We're just checking in with this shit. 847 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 3: These the family members have. 848 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: Lived with this over two years, so they may have 849 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: reconciled with this because they can't make it from day 850 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: to day in the anger that we can can can 851 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: selectively choose to be outraged. 852 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: And then be you know, now I'm talking about Amanda Seals, 853 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, like we can do that. I don't know 854 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: what it takes. 855 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: My brother hasn't been taken from me like that, So 856 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what it takes to make it to 857 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: the next day when something tragic like that has happened. 858 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: You might can't spend every fucking day thinking about that 859 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: shit all day. And some people maybe they have been 860 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: through it and that is how they got through it. 861 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: This. I'm still mad. I'm never forgiven. I can't wait 862 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: to you know what, Like I don't know. 863 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 2: And so the thing I felt was like, we need 864 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: to allow for the humanity of that nineteen year old 865 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: black kid, right, you know, we have to allow for it. 866 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: I think we should. You don't have to, but I 867 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 2: think we should has some consideration. Maybe he'll feel differently 868 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 2: about this in ten years, maybe he won't. Maybe he'll 869 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: regret that hug, maybe he won't. But whatever it is, 870 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: that hug is not a reflection on me, or black 871 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 2: people in general, or forgiveness in general, or Christianity in general. 872 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: I think that's an individual decision because I know Christians 873 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: that were telling me I wouldn't have forgat the bitch 874 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have hugged her. So now what am 875 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: I gonna say? You know, well, that's a bad reflection 876 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: on our Christians. No, it's you made an individual decision, 877 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 2: and I allow that. Under the offices of blackness, we 878 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: try to smother people too much. Sometimes we have to 879 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: stop and be like, that's just what that person decided. 880 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: They happen to be a black person. I wouldn't have 881 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: done that shit. Now, if you would have hugged their 882 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: turn into the camera and said this is for all 883 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: black people, okay, be mad, But he didn't. It was 884 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: a personal moment between them and whatever the hell he 885 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 2: believes in that being said, I feel completely differently about 886 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 2: the judge and the bailiffs. They were at work, and 887 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck they were doing. Come on, like, 888 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: do you hand bibles to everybody? Is that a thing 889 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: you hugged all your defenders in your courtroom? Because if not, 890 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: I want to know what was so different about her? 891 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 2: You know, how many other people have you sentenced and 892 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: come down out of the you know, of the off 893 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: the desk and being like, hey, let me let me 894 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: talk to you for a second. 895 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 896 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: Because if not, then miss me with that bullshit man 897 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: like y' y'all are there in the capacity of working 898 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: for the state. That's totally fucking different in my opinion, 899 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: straightening her hair and consoling her and shit like, I 900 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: don't see how that's any Like, that's just pure white 901 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: woman tears like to the fucking rescue, And I couldn't believe. 902 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 3: Like, like I said, I really wish I hadn't seen 903 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: any of it because it's. 904 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 2: Very emotional, making is very angering to see it, and 905 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: it's very confusing, and it's very I don't know, it's 906 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of things, And I think, like I said, 907 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: with that family, I don't know them niggas, And if 908 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: that's how they get down. 909 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: That's how they get down. 910 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna use them to then smother I'm not 911 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: gonna try to smother them into like, now you gotta 912 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: die because you didn't handle this the way I would. Okay, 913 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: y'all grieving, good luck, you know, But everybody, everybody that 914 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: worked in a professional capacity in that courtroom, I'm closer 915 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: to it. 916 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 3: To feeling the way you feel, you know. Anyway. 917 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 2: Finally, in the past few months, lots of stories have 918 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 2: been put out here about Detroit and racism, such as 919 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: black people being kicked out of bars or stopped and 920 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: harassed by police officers while walking to meet for lunch. 921 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: You have to understand the choice. 922 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: Surrounded by white suburban towns and cities, These white suburban 923 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: areas are where most of these incidents happen, even though 924 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: there have been a steady gentrification going in the city 925 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: of Detroit. 926 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 3: But I'm sure where you live it's probably the same way. Yeah, 927 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: it is. 928 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 2: No one really talks knows this small suburban towns around 929 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: the major cities. So in order to get the story out, 930 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 2: if they always use Detroit or Charlotte, no one read 931 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 2: the story. If it said Royal Oka, Farmington Hills, Michigan. Anyway, 932 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: thanks for opporunity to get some feedback here with the 933 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: good work. Thanks man, Thank you, and uh yeah, we 934 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: appreciate you, Detroit Retire Sims. There was a lot to 935 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: talk about, but I did want to talk about those things, 936 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 2: so appreciate you for the opportunity. 937 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: Secure the bag of cotton. This is the episode we 938 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 3: had with Chris Lambert. 939 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: Yes, which is you know, one of these meandering We 940 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: talked about everything and nothing at the same time episode, right, 941 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: movies and everything else, Yeah, stand up podcasts and all 942 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: that stuff. 943 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 3: Felix left for comment. 944 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna pretend like I was actually going 945 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: to see Joker in theaters after what I feelers have 946 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: been saying about how he hates. 947 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 3: Comic book movies and was making a real movie. 948 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: It got off on the wrong foot from jump everything 949 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: he says, since it's only put me off at more 950 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: every statement he makes trips with condescension and fragility. The 951 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 2: movie is probably good, but I'm not gonna go see 952 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: it with how he comes across through throughout this lead 953 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: up to it. 954 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, k Nocke, Felix, Yeah. 955 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 4: Something to me because me and Roger kind of talked 956 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: about this. You could have just fucking put the movie 957 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 4: out oka your fuck what you call it, and just 958 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 4: put the movie out and let the movie speak for itself. 959 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 4: But you didn't want to do that. Yeah, you wanted 960 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 4: to come out. You wanted to talk about how it 961 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 4: is not comic book related. So then you bring up 962 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 4: the two camps, the people that's like, the fuck I 963 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 4: like comic book movies, bitch, you got a comic book character, 964 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 4: why this is about comic books and the I don't 965 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: like comic book characters that follow the comic book. You 966 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 4: could have been like, this is our own version of 967 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 4: the Joker. Comic books through that all time. Fuck it. 968 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 3: They have verses that aren't even related. 969 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 4: Whole new worlds they make up. MA would have a 970 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 4: whole series what if, like all kinds of shit that 971 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: people do, where they put their particular version in the bubble, 972 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 4: unrelated and unattached to anything. You could have just did 973 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 4: that and people would have watched it or not watched it. 974 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 4: People would have been mad either way. But you did 975 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 4: this bullshit and then you turn around and you got 976 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 4: mad because you wanted the controversy, because you said the 977 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 4: hot fire things that get both sides to go in 978 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 4: and then you're shocked and surprised when you get this 979 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,479 Speaker 4: rebuttal and you get people arguing, and you get people 980 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 4: talking shit about you and shit like that, like y'all like, oh, 981 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was gonna be like this. Theuck 982 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 4: you did, that's why you goddamn said it. So it's like, 983 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 4: you can't have it both ways. You can't do stuff 984 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 4: to stroke a fire and then get shot that the 985 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: fire came and fucking burnt your movie up because people 986 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 4: are gonna go see it regardless. Some people are gonna 987 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 4: go see it and some people aren't gonna go see it, 988 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 4: and that was gonna happen either way. But now you 989 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 4: got people feeling strong in their convictions about the movie, 990 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 4: going fuck this movie or this is the greatest movie ever. 991 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: And that's the part that irritates me. Just put your 992 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 4: goddamn movie out. You wouldn't have had this problem. You 993 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 4: wouldn't have had the controversy, you know, none of that shit. 994 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and DC's Animated joints have been doing this for 995 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: years now of just this is a certain version of 996 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: this character has nothing to do with the other versions 997 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 2: of this character. 998 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 3: And they just move on, so they could have done that. 999 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 4: Correct. 1000 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: Also, someone did bring up that the witness in the 1001 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: both of ms, Jean Trout, was killed last night. Yeah, 1002 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: he was very it was instrumental in getting a conviction, 1003 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: and then he was just gutting down I think in 1004 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: a parking lot something like that. Obviously, people are speculating 1005 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 2: that it was assassination because he was a witness, and 1006 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 2: people are saying it's the police. People are blaming the 1007 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: hug for his murder, which I'm gonna be honest. I 1008 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: read some of the people saying that, and I don't 1009 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: know what that point was. 1010 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 3: How did that hug get him killed? I'm really trying 1011 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 3: to understand. 1012 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 4: That because they're just mad connection with everything, Like I see. 1013 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 2: Certain shit and you just almost have to let it 1014 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: go because it's just some Twitter shit like correct, Like 1015 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: you can't make the connection. So you just hated that 1016 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 2: hug so much that you want to turn it into 1017 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: and it allowed him to be killed. 1018 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 3: So I don't, I don't, I don't know. 1019 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: Like only thing I know for sure is just I'm 1020 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: gonna wait to talk about the detail. 1021 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 3: I need to wait for more details to come out. 1022 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 2: It's just like it's so easy to just be like, 1023 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 2: this is what happened, and you know, especially in the 1024 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 2: you to see a social media I just would like 1025 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: to know more, and you know, we'll see, man. But 1026 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't have the answers of the hot take right away. 1027 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: I just I just whatever happened was tragic and sad, 1028 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 2: and I just hope that someone can figure out what 1029 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 2: happened to him, and if it's related to the Dallas PD, 1030 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: then maybe someone else needs to investigate what happened to 1031 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 2: them and not not them. 1032 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 4: You know, agreed, all right? 1033 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 3: Would you take money to cover up a hate crime 1034 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 3: against your child? Yes? 1035 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 6: Or no? 1036 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: Seven percent of y'all say yes? Said no? 1037 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 2: Anonymy says, question what exactly is a hate crime? I 1038 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: mean it depends, well, either listen to the show or 1039 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 2: you didn't. Brooklyn Shoe Base said, I like, how what 1040 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 2: exactly is a hate crime? Brooklyn Shoe Bay says, I 1041 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 2: take money for not killing the person who committed the 1042 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 2: hate crime. 1043 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 3: That's not the same thing. 1044 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 2: How about Beth? I said yes because I don't have 1045 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: a child, Beth. And man, you guys really tried to 1046 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: talk your way out of this one. I say yes 1047 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 2: because I don't have a child. 1048 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 3: What are y'all doing? What's on with y'all? 1049 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,959 Speaker 2: Obviously the proposition the question is if you had a child? 1050 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 2: Like do I have to say, well, if you had 1051 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: a hypothetical child, would you do it? 1052 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 3: Like? Come on, gods, what are y'all doing? 1053 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 2: You just want to say, yes, that bad And Phil 1054 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: g says, f them kids. I will not be put 1055 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: on summer jam screen having explained a lie. Yeah, ninety 1056 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 2: y'all had some some reasonable sense and know how to 1057 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: answer questions. So thank you for those people, because the 1058 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 2: answer is no, Like, fuck out of here, y'all know 1059 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: y'all wouldn't take no money for a hate crime against 1060 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: one of your children, and shit, y'all would be fucking 1061 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 2: crime murder and shit. 1062 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: Let's see what else. 1063 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 2: Cultural commerce was the episode of nineteen sixty eight. We 1064 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 2: talked about cultural appropriation, which I always hate to talk 1065 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 2: about because niggas really want to write a chapter every 1066 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: time we do the shit. And this ain't even count 1067 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: the emails you got, so let's get into these long 1068 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 2: form replies. I'm really gonna stop talking about this shit 1069 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: on the show at some point because I just it's 1070 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 2: the same thing every time, and well, like it's no 1071 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: offense to everybody, but it's like nobody can just be like, 1072 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 2: oh yeah, good talk. 1073 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 3: It's always gotta be like, let me break out myne. 1074 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: Focus like cat camera action is this like, yeah, let 1075 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: me talk to y'all for a second? Four score and 1076 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 2: thirteen years ago. 1077 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 3: Come anyway, you know what, you know? 1078 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 4: What you wrong? 1079 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,959 Speaker 2: My brother trees right saying y'all really are the best. 1080 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm typing this comment as I'm listening to this episode. 1081 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 2: A couple of points. I agree with Karen's assessment of 1082 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: the match dot com situation. I tried match and e 1083 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: harmony many years ago, so things could have changed by now, 1084 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 2: but I definitely chose them because they were reputable and 1085 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 2: supposedly for people only interested in serious relationships. E Harmony 1086 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: is particular in particular, it requires you to complete a profile. 1087 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 2: It takes about two hours, if not more so. By 1088 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 2: the time I did all this crap, I definitely wanted 1089 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 2: to pay for the service and receive instant results. I 1090 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 2: believe both sites sent me tips on how to enhance 1091 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 2: my profile to receive desired attention and results, but never 1092 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,760 Speaker 2: sent dummy responses. I think obviously one response that ultimately 1093 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 2: cancel both subscriptions aft a couple of months. It's saying 1094 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 2: all that I see why Tender and similar sites are 1095 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 2: now so popular, because, quite honestly, I found that I 1096 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: got more hits on the free dating sites like Yahoo 1097 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 2: at that time, in those sites that didn't require extensive 1098 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: profiles questionnaires. But of course the men mostly just want 1099 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 2: Netflix and chills. So anyone on matching e Harmony even 1100 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: now are probably trying to weed out the hookup crowd. Yeah, 1101 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: let me just say I want a clarify here, coatries. 1102 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 2: That's not Karen's assessment of the match dot com situation. 1103 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 2: I was saying that the people who sign up because 1104 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 2: they get random messages that are like like, not the 1105 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 2: people that pay for the service right away, but the 1106 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 2: people that say I want to pay, I'm gonna do 1107 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: it for free. And then they get a fake catfish 1108 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 2: reply like hey big boy, you and Charlotte, North Carolina. 1109 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 3: And then they go pay how much the fez? That's 1110 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 3: men only? Man nat Horney like that men do spid 1111 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 3: like that. That's probably a half of that sex to 1112 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: you A long wink wink. 1113 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like women probably signed, like you said, if they 1114 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 2: want to pay for that service. They probably decided that 1115 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 2: ship when they were signing up, like that was my thing. Yes, yeah, 1116 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: that's a totally different point than what the story was about. 1117 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: The story was if you get catfish, you weren't gonna pay, 1118 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: and then somebody's like, hey, I got some you know, 1119 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: I'm in town and I would love to date you, 1120 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 2: and you go, well, now I need to give the 1121 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: harmony twenty five dollars. 1122 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 4: You're a man, yeah, because women are like a dick 1123 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 4: is a dick is a dick? 1124 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 3: Like, like the fuck is this? Yeah, that's my guess. Anyway, 1125 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 3: I guarantee more men than my guess is. I don't know. 1126 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: You know, you guys could still be right, but I 1127 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: feel like more men pay the feed out of lust 1128 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: might in preparation, you. 1129 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 4: Might have a handful of women to do too, because 1130 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 4: like you say, you're just randomly hitting people up. So 1131 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 4: but like you say, I don't I'm taking a guess 1132 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 4: at what I think it is. But you would have 1133 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 4: men and women both. 1134 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,760 Speaker 2: Or just yeah, it's I'm sure it works on different 1135 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 2: you know, I'm saying, I think it's more men who 1136 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 2: do the impulse. 1137 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I might get. 1138 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, then women doing an impulse of let me spend 1139 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 2: thirty more dollars on this, on this like on this 1140 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: ship that I wasn't gonna spend any money. 1141 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 4: Because I agree with the with the person who wrote in. 1142 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 4: Women are like, hey, I don't want to deal with 1143 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 4: that bullshit. So that's right paying for the Okay, okay. 1144 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: Women are always trying to know not all women, you 1145 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 2: guys know what generalizing, right, but women are always trying 1146 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 2: to weed out the just the people that are just dicks, correct, 1147 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 2: you know, like they're always trying to Yeah, it's like 1148 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 2: it's like, uh, they're trying to narrow down the dicks 1149 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 2: being thrown at their faces like dogs. 1150 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 3: It's too many dicks. And then the men are always 1151 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 3: trying to increase the numbers. 1152 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 2: So if they get even what they consider be a nibble, 1153 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're like, oh I get some money. 1154 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, get some women. 1155 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 2: It's like you're not gonna get nothing. I love your 1156 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 2: commentary on cultural appropriation. It is very nuanced and much needed. 1157 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: And this I thought y'all were being being hypocritical because 1158 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 2: I remember your commentary on Katie Perry and I gizella. 1159 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 2: I know y'all are better than that, So I patiently 1160 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 2: awaited as y'all fleshed out your points and you did. 1161 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 2: The truth is, there's a difference. There's a difference in 1162 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 2: culture vultures and culture blenders and bars. Yeah, I appreciate 1163 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 2: you being patient. A lot of people write long form 1164 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 2: paragraphs before and you can tell they haven't finished. Listen 1165 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 2: to the episode. It's like I had to stop the 1166 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: show and right in it's like, god damn, I hate 1167 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 2: culture appropriation conversations like take it to tumblr. Okay, we 1168 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 2: covered everything, You're not gonna write something that We were like, 1169 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 2: we didn't even think of that, Like we thought of it. 1170 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 3: We just didn't give a fuck. Our reed r. 1171 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: Wh twenty sixteen. Since I agrew rid men are much 1172 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,879 Speaker 2: more thirstier than women. We men are suckers for this scam. 1173 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 2: Back in two thousand, I got catfish from a dating 1174 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 2: site a coworker recommended. Once I signed up as a 1175 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 2: free user, I started getting those messages, but of course 1176 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 2: that you wanted to respond back, you had to upgrade 1177 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 2: the premium, and of course most of the messages were bogus. 1178 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's us, it's us, we stupid. 1179 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 2: Regarding matchmaking, companies and then their customers fake love interest messages. 1180 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 2: I think something similar happened to me a few years ago. 1181 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: I was doing a free trial for a black dating 1182 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: site that I forgotten the name of black people meet. 1183 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: The conversation is typically consistent of them, hey me, how 1184 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: how are you? 1185 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 3: No response, then the next day them hey. 1186 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: It was so ridiculous that two days before my trials over, 1187 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: I got a message from a guy who could actually 1188 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 2: hold a conversation to hell similar interest in mine. The 1189 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 2: day before my trials up, there was no message from him. 1190 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: Then after it expired, there was a message, but I 1191 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: would have had to pay to see it. I figured 1192 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: it must have been someone worked for the company trying 1193 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 2: to get my coin, So I left it alone smart right. 1194 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 4: Right before before it expires. And that's probably when those 1195 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 4: people get hit up the most. 1196 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: Like I said, black women too smart women, too smart 1197 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 2: for that man would have took it. Hey man, she 1198 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 2: must have just been busy yesterday. As a black woman 1199 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 2: who enjoys K pop, anime, Bollywood, Latin music, and the 1200 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: Last Dragon, I appreciate how complicated cultural appropriation, vulturism, appreciation 1201 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 2: and exchange is. As far as K pop artists being 1202 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 2: trashed towards black people. It does happen. It's worse is 1203 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 2: the reaction of the non black K pop fans who 1204 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: when black fans speak out on it. That's where you 1205 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: really see the vitrio all unhibited racism explode. 1206 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, that's just a whole nother world. 1207 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 2: I've chose not to get into because I like, I 1208 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: don't knock the people with the K pop shit, and 1209 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: I see black people trying to get into it. And 1210 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, I've been in restaurants, so I'm like, yo, 1211 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: this K pop shit be banging, like I. 1212 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 3: Ain't got no artists. 1213 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 4: But when I hear like, I fuck with this right. 1214 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 3: But what I do know for sure is that I 1215 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 3: ain't trying to fight niggasm. So oh wait, someone wrote 1216 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 3: a comment indur in the middle of the show. 1217 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: I'll read this for the last episode, Rod justin a 1218 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: just I think even Chris, maybe I a black man, 1219 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 2: watched Little Boxes on Netflix. Do not try and say 1220 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: you don't know any other black people watch this movie. 1221 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 2: I refusally placed in one of your little boxes. Love 1222 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 2: you guys, thanks for the for the content. All right there, 1223 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: Anonymous says, I used to watch a Lily scene and 1224 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 2: and there hasn't been. There's definitely been a progression in 1225 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 2: her YouTube career that has led to her where her 1226 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: show is now or where she is now. It's reminiscent 1227 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 2: of how people felt about I guess I think Donah 1228 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 2: Glover put Danny Glover Donald Glover's rise in that he 1229 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: never publicly atoned for that past, not saying he has to, 1230 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 2: but his art has changed reflecting that he learned from it. 1231 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 3: Lily's work is the same, in my opinion. 1232 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: Earlier in her YouTube days, her own community used to 1233 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 2: call her out for playing up Indian stereotypes to her 1234 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: portrayal of her parents for clicks. It was true, though 1235 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 2: she just reduced critiques as haters. But I did notice 1236 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 2: the decline in those type of videos over time. Yeah, 1237 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing, man. We talked about it 1238 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: with Donald Glover, Like people really want, like a public 1239 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 2: may of Kopa that they're not gonna accept, right. 1240 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,439 Speaker 4: Right, You're not gonna fucking accept it, So it does 1241 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 4: not fucking matter. 1242 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: Like I like, I don't like they're gonna always use 1243 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: any mistake or any position you held in the past 1244 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: against you. Doesn't matter if you a tone or apologize, 1245 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 2: we don't care. Yeah, so you really do waste your 1246 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: time with some of these apologies. If you're gonna continue 1247 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: to work, make better work. You know, if you see 1248 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 2: the critiques, don't try to address them or defend yourself, 1249 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 2: just fucking do taking into an underadvisor and try to 1250 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: do something better next time, because most of these motherfuckers 1251 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 2: do not give a fuck about you. You're just a 1252 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 2: person to talk about for. 1253 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 4: The moment entertainment. 1254 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe she did, you know, see all this 1255 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: shit and eventually come, you know, have a come to 1256 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 2: Jesus moment and say well, I'm just gonna do different 1257 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: type of work behind the scenes. And we never got 1258 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 2: that apology of that moment. So folks is like, well, 1259 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,439 Speaker 2: still fuck her. But let's be frank, if she did, 1260 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 2: it's still gonna be fuck her. She later started doing 1261 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 2: mostly self deprecating raps. She always has barsl and unicorn 1262 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: sparkly type content. 1263 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 6: We all know. 1264 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 2: Okay, there's the preteen White Girls. The audience YouTube Bank's 1265 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: bank off of that was very That was the very 1266 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 2: beginning of a mainstream exposure. It was interesting observing the 1267 00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 2: commentary on the Punjabi community in the Punjabi Canadi community. 1268 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: Some were proud, some were saying, she's a safe brown 1269 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 2: girl that caters to white entertainment. 1270 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 3: Sounds familiar. Yep. 1271 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 2: There's also the nuance you spoke on regards to people 1272 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 2: who feel other filling a kinship with African American culture specifically. 1273 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 2: I've noticed the Indian Canadian population tend to take on 1274 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 2: bits of our culture as a greater rate than the 1275 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: Indian American population. 1276 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 3: How does that happen? 1277 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: I can't even understand the frustration of the Jamaican Canadian commentator, a. 1278 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Commentary called cousin Toronto. 1279 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Everybody buys off Jamaican culture specifically, and there's even historical 1280 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 2: nuanced to that. 1281 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake just did it, like last year, maybe two 1282 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 3: years ago. 1283 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 2: He was started doing all that patois and all that shit, 1284 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, Drake, you know, like you don't 1285 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 2: come from this, but clearly this is what's hot for 1286 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 2: you right now. There could be a mix of projection 1287 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 2: with that exhaustion. There's just so much more nuanced than 1288 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 2: she raps. 1289 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 3: So she's appropriate. 1290 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 2: And while I've personally outgrown her brand or of entertainment, 1291 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I can also recognize how she's grown and doesn't engage 1292 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 2: in our culture in that culture culture way. 1293 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I still copy. 1294 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: Of those dances in that truth Hurst video and cherish 1295 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 2: the time hip hop fuck with South Asian mustry imagery 1296 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 2: hard in the early two. 1297 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Thousands hashtag hypocrisy gang gang. That's the thing. 1298 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 4: If you talk to most people at some period of time, 1299 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 4: you have accepted or branched off or dibble and dabble 1300 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 4: in the others that quote unquote, now everybody will consider appropriation. 1301 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: And not even on some good ship really like rappers 1302 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: is a rap about women having chinky eyes, that's not 1303 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 2: that's not that's that's not appreciate. Like even if you 1304 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 2: think it's a compliment, it's clearly using a racial slur. 1305 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 2: It's clearly like that was just a thing. 1306 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 4: It was. 1307 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't getting blanked out on the radio. It was 1308 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 2: just a fucking thing we did. And then at the 1309 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 2: same time, you know, we want to hold this grudge 1310 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 2: and anger against Asian people that you know co op 1311 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: black ship, like you y'all would about anti blackness in 1312 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 2: your community. It's like, well, niggas, both of us got 1313 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 2: anti whateverness in our community. 1314 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 3: Towards the other. 1315 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 2: And to be frank, we aren't calling it out like 1316 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing I don't remember trying. No black person 1317 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: was like, man, fuck Nelly, I'm canceling this, nigga, what 1318 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: does he mean? 1319 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 3: Like none of us did that? So I wish people 1320 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 3: would be honest on both sides. 1321 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 2: And then you don't in any stupid ass like Tumblr 1322 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 2: exchanges of no, no, I figured out appropriation. 1323 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 3: Y'all don't get it. Nah, funk out of here right well? 1324 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 3: Trump get in peace? Yes or no? 1325 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 4: No? 1326 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 3: Thirty two percent say yes, sixty eight percent say no. 1327 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 3: You got some comments. 1328 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 4: Don't matter your fucking vote at your vote, it don't 1329 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 4: matter it, don't you unless y'all put handcuffs and drag 1330 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 4: him out the fucking office. He's not getting peached. 1331 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 3: What do you mean your vote don't matter? 1332 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 4: They can vote on it like they can flap and 1333 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 4: both of them be like, yeah, get him out, But 1334 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 4: it don't mean he has two step down. 1335 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 2: Well, impeachment and stepping down and resigning are different, but 1336 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 2: correct if you can be in peace without residing. So 1337 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 2: you're saying he won't, but I'm saying I'm not. The 1338 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 2: question was it will he be taking out of office where. 1339 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 3: He resigned peached. Oh no, I still don't think okay, 1340 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: thank you. 1341 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 4: And the reason why I said this is because a 1342 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 4: lot of people think voting he goes like a lot 1343 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 4: of people think it's the same thing. They think, impeach. Okay, 1344 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 4: you move from office and it don't. 1345 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 3: Work, like yeplaining that. 1346 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 4: My bad. But yeah, that's why I was like, no, 1347 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 4: he's not gonna get impeached and then know he's not 1348 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 4: gonna leave office either, correct, even if they vote and 1349 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 4: say you are impeached, he gonna stick his but like 1350 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 4: he's gonna stick his middle finger up and be like 1351 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 4: the fuck and might write new rules and then do 1352 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 4: whatever he does and be like, I'm not leaving. I 1353 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 4: even think even if he wins his next election, I 1354 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 4: still think he will like it's all rigged and that 1355 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 4: Nigga won't step. 1356 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Out off means that's what I mean. 1357 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 4: Nothing even if he loses. I'm sorry the next election, 1358 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 4: I said, win ship even even if he loses, because 1359 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 4: I can see him winning because y'all motherfuckers, I see it. Repeat. 1360 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 4: But anyway, even if he loses the next election, I 1361 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 4: don't even think he would step down because he has 1362 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 4: shown that he don't give a fuck about your rules 1363 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:06,959 Speaker 4: and your regulations and the laws. 1364 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Like everybody goes. 1365 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 4: But I don't think, fuck your law. We've got these rules. 1366 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 4: He don't. So when you deal with somebody that goes, 1367 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about your rules of monopoly, 1368 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 4: what the fuck are you supposed to do? 1369 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you on all of that. I just 1370 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 3: wanted you to be clear because thank you. He was 1371 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 3: kind of skipping around a little bit. 1372 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 2: Am my bad, No problem, I'm really I'll just be 1373 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 2: thinking about the emails, like right, she. 1374 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 3: Said, when we know what she meant? 1375 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Uh, Charles Wright saying, if by impeachment you mean what 1376 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 2: a House vote to say articles in petrid to the Senate. Yes, 1377 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 2: impeachment doesn't mean that the trial held in the Senate 1378 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 2: will result in removing the president from office. At this point, 1379 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 2: I still doubt enough Senate Republicans will vote removing from office. 1380 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 3: Agreed? 1381 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 2: How about Best says I feel like I'll jinx it 1382 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 2: if I said yes, But I don't want to be 1383 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: on the wrong side of the history. 1384 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 3: If I say no, I'm stressed. Give my vote to 1385 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 3: you both. 1386 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 2: This is unrelated to the Poe spread to know how caring, 1387 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 2: how tall caring is a suspense y'all. 1388 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Also, this episode is hilarious, loudy both at How about. 1389 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,959 Speaker 4: Beth, Oh, I'm sure I'm five to two and a half. 1390 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 2: Rich says, I agree with Charles, Congress, Will and Peach, 1391 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 2: but I'd be surprised if the Senate will remove him 1392 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 2: from office. Also, I read that even if the Senate 1393 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 2: removes him from office, Trump can still run for the 1394 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election, a separate vote would have to be 1395 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 2: made to bar him from ever holding office again. Second 1396 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 2: sounds crazy to me out too. Monique says he could 1397 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 2: have gotten articles drawn up by Pelosi time and time 1398 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 2: again over the years. All the underhanded stuff that's coming 1399 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 2: out here so treason is and outrageous. Though Trump had 1400 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 2: made it so nothing really sticks, nothing really matters, not 1401 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: even working with another government to once again persuade them 1402 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 2: to get dirt. 1403 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 3: On our opponents. This is a million times worse than 1404 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 3: the steal dossier. 1405 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 2: We definitely won't stick, but I'm interested in seeing how 1406 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 2: long the proceedings can be dragged out. You can theoretically 1407 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 2: tie him up after the dem primaries. 1408 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 3: Now I'll end with this. If all the grimy shit 1409 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 3: comes out and people still back in, that's what the 1410 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 3: country deserves. 1411 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 2: Agree, Really, Dark Knight says, impeach yes, removed. No, if 1412 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 2: you think about it, this food is the very embodiment 1413 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 2: of every last thing the Republicans accused for eight years, 1414 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 2: eight whole last years that President Obama was and they 1415 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 2: love it. 1416 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,440 Speaker 3: Peace Yep. 1417 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of with y'all. I think they can 1418 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 2: possibly vote for impeachment, but we will not. He won't 1419 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 2: be removed from office, so I agree. And the last 1420 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 2: episode was Domino's Delivery Insurance. For no comments on this one, 1421 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 2: but we did have a poll that had one comment 1422 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 2: on it. Would you ever get piece of delivery insurance? 1423 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 4: No, because it's automatic. If my shit get fucked up, 1424 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 4: you ought to replace that shit. I shouldn't have to 1425 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 4: pay for you to do your goddamn job. 1426 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, one person said yes, that counts for two plus 1427 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 2: in the vote, seventy vote saying no, and then twenty 1428 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 2: seven percent of y'all don't get piece of deliveries because 1429 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 2: y'all uh don't eat pizza, or you probably go get 1430 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 2: it yourself from a reputable place. 1431 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, my thing is even if my shit ain't expedited, 1432 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 4: so I'm not paying the defeat to move it at 1433 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 4: the top of the line. But goddamn it, if I 1434 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 4: don't get my soda, the fuck you. 1435 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:23,919 Speaker 3: Yes, you're going back. 1436 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 4: Getting my goddamn so I paid for it, I know, 1437 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 4: fuck that. You can give a fuck if I paid 1438 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 4: for it. 1439 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 2: Shrills or not, Alisha says the pizza delivery and carry 1440 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 2: out the sharance is free. 1441 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 3: I think they just try to be funny and fail. 1442 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if the insurance. 1443 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 2: Covered stolen pizza. Oh it's free for real, Alicia, Well, shit, 1444 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 2: then that joke really, if that's a joke. It completely 1445 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 2: got me because I didn't realize they were joking. So 1446 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 2: shout out to whoever came up with that, Like they 1447 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 2: got me, like Pope's got y'all with to. 1448 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Bring your own bisky, bring your own bread, Like I 1449 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 3: didn't fall for bring your own bread. It was clearly 1450 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 3: a joke, Like if you want chicken sand, just get 1451 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 3: three chicken tenders and bring your own bread, and y'all 1452 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 3: was mad all day on, just like it's clearly a joke. 1453 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,439 Speaker 3: The Domino's delivery insurance thing. I did not know it 1454 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 3: as a joke. 1455 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 4: I thought it was like an extra two n nine 1456 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,560 Speaker 4: five nine nine whatever the fee is. And I'm like, 1457 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 4: I'm for your fee and not do what do what 1458 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 4: you're supposed to do. 1459 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 2: So they were joking around considering me had all right. 1460 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 2: We had a couple of voicemails seven or four five 1461 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 2: five seven on a six. Uh, let's see what these are. 1462 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 5: And carrot rod, y'all love you guys. This is open 1463 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 5: seven corn about Kanie's Christian Kleans and I just want 1464 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 5: to say, like, look, it's it's a bone old in 1465 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 5: our community and you don't do well or you mess up, 1466 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,200 Speaker 5: you know, with the black community. It doesn't music that 1467 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 5: you would treat to the church, you know, pebbles at 1468 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 5: it back in the day Ham are good at You 1469 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 5: know a lot of people jump into Gospel when like 1470 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 5: they mess up with with with the Blacks to get 1471 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 5: a good graces. You know, I don't fall through it 1472 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 5: like other ne croothes, like some Negros do, because you know, 1473 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,839 Speaker 5: I'm similar to Ride. I'm not a gnostic a practice 1474 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 5: African religion, so I'm kind of skeptical sending them miss 1475 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 5: Tennic of Christiani in Islam in our community anyway, but 1476 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 5: and not to be able to be less controversial. You know, 1477 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 5: but I love you guys. I love the work you do. 1478 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,719 Speaker 5: I love the community. Set out to ev brookal Shoe Babe, 1479 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 5: all the regulars. The guys are the best. I just 1480 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 5: wanted to add my two cents to it. You know, 1481 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,839 Speaker 5: Kanye is still a little bit. He's pretty much canceled, 1482 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 5: even though the concerts are amazing. They're just there to 1483 01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 5: make more money and to just you know, sprinkle a 1484 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,560 Speaker 5: little gospel to South Look you guys. 1485 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,920 Speaker 3: Ah man, thank you for your love. Gospel juice. Christian 1486 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 3: Konan was good. 1487 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 4: I'll never be like any of those negroes. 1488 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 3: I did get a little bit of that off of 1489 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 3: the uh the the the Kanye hate and the black 1490 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 3: people letting people back in en be of religion. But yeah, man, 1491 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 3: they we do. We definitely like Ship. I remember on 1492 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 3: the low. 1493 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 2: This isn't even that egregious compared to uh R. Kelly 1494 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 2: got back in the community with gospel. 1495 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 4: I believe I can fly. Yeah me, I remember them songs. 1496 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he was caught dead the rights fucking children 1497 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 2: on fucking camera. Ship was one of the first time 1498 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 2: something went viral on the internet. People were sharing this 1499 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: illegal video and everything people saw it, and this motherfucker 1500 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 2: did a gospel album and it was like it reset 1501 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 2: everything for a lot of people. 1502 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, this is just tried and truth. 1503 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 4: I got it, Karen. 1504 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 6: This is Parisa at cross Corey on Twitter. I'm leaving 1505 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 6: to go out of town tomorrow, so I won't even 1506 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 6: get to be a part of the feedback show this weekend. 1507 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 6: But and there's actually a lot of things I want 1508 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 6: to comment on, but I'm just going to try to 1509 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 6: do the one episode nineteen sixty eight cultural Commerce. You 1510 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 6: just made a comment about the black sage Mentchell, who 1511 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 6: were black men and how you know that complicates things 1512 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 6: when we try to add like menstal feed with something 1513 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 6: that only white people did. And I just wanted to say, 1514 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 6: I've talked about that in my first book, and what's 1515 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 6: so powerful about it in the context of your show 1516 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 6: for me is that the argument you're making is why 1517 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 6: everything that you've always said about Tyler Perry resonated with me. 1518 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 6: Because knowing about Williams and Walker at the beginning of 1519 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,600 Speaker 6: the twentieth centy and how they broke into Broadway is 1520 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 6: exactly why I never saw Tyler Perry as a problem 1521 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,480 Speaker 6: because they use their money from Broadway to create. 1522 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,520 Speaker 8: Jobs for black. 1523 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 7: Writers, for black. 1524 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 6: Tech people like all of these positions because they got 1525 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 6: that Broadway break originally starting with black tape makeup is 1526 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 6: how they made opportunities for other black people. So your 1527 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 6: comments about Tyler Perry making opportunity has always resonated with 1528 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 6: me because I knew about that history. So it kind 1529 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,200 Speaker 6: of need to hear you, you know, mention the first 1530 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 6: crossover artists of this country black men who originally had 1531 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 6: to break in by using black tape. 1532 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 3: So always fun. 1533 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,560 Speaker 6: Thank you for everything you do. Maybe I'll find the 1534 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 6: time to. 1535 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 3: Call about the other issues, but who knows. 1536 01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 6: All right, y'all take care. 1537 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 2: Thanks prov Corey, and uh yeah, man, Like that's the thing, 1538 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,920 Speaker 2: like as I read more and more about that time 1539 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 2: period and kind of refresh my knowledge, like some of 1540 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 2: the stuff I've read before it has been a while. 1541 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 4: You hear about, but you didn't read it all new 1542 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 4: the details behind it. 1543 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you just kind of go back and 1544 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 2: look at that time period because I do find a 1545 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 2: refreshing to look through at today through then. You know, 1546 01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 2: there's a lot of times where I'm just like we 1547 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 2: don't talk about this shit because it's inconvenient or we 1548 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 2: don't know about it because we also have our oil 1549 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 2: traditions that are passed down and we don't know the details. 1550 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 3: But what does linger is like the way things were updated. Right, 1551 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 3: So there was a time when black people in general, 1552 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 3: we're also proud of. 1553 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 2: This minstrelsy that empowered this man to become like one 1554 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 2: of the highest paid acts on Broadway at the time. 1555 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 3: Like like and as you said, then pour that community in. 1556 01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 2: They're getting other black stories told that decessarily related to 1557 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 2: that minstrel See, you know, things that we that we 1558 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 2: would later go on to be quote unquote proud of. 1559 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,479 Speaker 2: But there's this way of like immediately turning disdain on folks, 1560 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 2: especially once they're accepted or they make money by whiteness. 1561 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 2: It's like we immediate and that still happens today. 1562 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 4: The second you turn over quote unquote to the white side, 1563 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,640 Speaker 4: niggas are like subsection are like fuck you, they recognized you. 1564 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1565 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 2: So a lot of times I just think that's like 1566 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 2: there's just we just forget, you know. Like one of 1567 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 2: the things I think people haven't thought critically about over 1568 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 2: the last month or some change about with both of them. John, 1569 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 2: how many of y'all shared that video of him leading 1570 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 2: church service and was like, wow, this is what they 1571 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 2: took from us. How many y'all shared that or saw 1572 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 2: somebody share it? 1573 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 3: How many click play on that? Right, that's the same 1574 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 3: reason she got ten years. And that's the same reason 1575 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,639 Speaker 3: that her brother that his brother hugged her. And that's 1576 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 3: also respectability politics. 1577 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 2: That's also us saying he's good because he's in church 1578 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,759 Speaker 2: in a suit, leading prayer service. 1579 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,840 Speaker 3: He's a good person. Now, that's what goodness looks like 1580 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:13,720 Speaker 3: in blackness. 1581 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 2: That's what we said. Yeah, you can't have it both ways. 1582 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,759 Speaker 2: You can't be Michael Brown was no angel on pissedy. 1583 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 2: Y'all would bring that up and at the same time 1584 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 2: be like, well this black man though he was in church, Like. 1585 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 3: How could you kill him? You see what I'm saying. 1586 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 2: I think we contain multitudes and complexity and hypocrisy and 1587 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: contradiction because we're human. I'm not judging us for that, 1588 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 2: but I wonder how many people looked at it and 1589 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 2: thought about that for a second, was like, damn, the 1590 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: reason she gets ten years is one of the jurors said, 1591 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 2: because we believe he would. 1592 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 3: Not have wanted her to go to prison for life. 1593 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: And I said, y'all believe that because y'all were told 1594 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 2: he was such a good Negro, that he was a 1595 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,760 Speaker 2: super duper Christian's And that's one of the reasons it's 1596 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 2: a tragedy. He's not his because he was so Christian, 1597 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,599 Speaker 2: but also because he was so Christian. You can't imagine 1598 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 2: a world where he said, fuck this woman, she killed me, 1599 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 2: and no, she doesn't get to just fucking. 1600 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 3: Be free in ten years, right. 1601 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 2: You can't imagine that version of him because that then 1602 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,919 Speaker 2: fucks up the narrative for why she even got convicted. 1603 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 2: It's a complex situation, one that we can't simplify down 1604 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 2: to just calling somebody a coon or not a coon. 1605 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 2: But I feel like that's where a lot of the 1606 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 2: commentary goes now, because we've made the commentary about our 1607 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,280 Speaker 2: own personal version of blackness and how everybody that doesn't 1608 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 2: aspire to that is somehow a race trader. And the 1609 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,640 Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, there's a time when respectability 1610 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,919 Speaker 2: politics was called black revolutionary politics. It was like Negroes 1611 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 2: can't be wearing those suits, Like the fact you put 1612 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 2: on a suit make me want to hurt you like that. 1613 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,599 Speaker 2: There was a time where like the bravest fucking thing 1614 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 2: of a black woman could do is put on a 1615 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 2: pretty dress and walk through some fucking part of town 1616 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 2: where they like, niggas are here. 1617 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 3: To be slaves or or or work for us. 1618 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 2: What do you mean you're coming in this store in 1619 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 2: a suit, I mean, in a nice dress looking for 1620 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 2: a hat fuck out of here, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 1621 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 2: it's a complicated thing that's not simple. 1622 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 4: People think, agreed, and also I think too, you know, 1623 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 4: And because we're human, Let's say he wouldn't have been 1624 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 4: this upstanding christian. Let's say you'd have some flaws or 1625 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 4: being convicted of some stuff. Would the community as a 1626 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 4: whole still come out and have this same energy? 1627 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1628 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that's something that people don't ask, like why, 1629 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 4: But like this, we get mad when white people say 1630 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 4: you have to be perfect, But yet we also want 1631 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,760 Speaker 4: a perfect victim. Also, we do like we can't have 1632 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 4: it both ways, Like it wouldn't have mattered what he did. 1633 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,799 Speaker 4: She did not deserve to do that, and she deserves 1634 01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 4: to spend time in jail. 1635 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 2: He could have been sitting in there fucking with a gun, 1636 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:06,719 Speaker 2: smoking weed, watching porn like nothing. 1637 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 3: There's no she still was just as wrong. 1638 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 2: But we all know if he would have been, she 1639 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,240 Speaker 2: probably gets no time, doesn't even get convicted, right. 1640 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 3: Like, it's fucked up. 1641 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 2: We get killed, We go on trial, and then and 1642 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 2: then in the verdict that that we put each other 1643 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,720 Speaker 2: on public trial of how we handle the fucking think. 1644 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 2: Do you know the other thing that kind of pissed 1645 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 2: me off? People keep going, this is why they keep 1646 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,519 Speaker 2: killing us black people forgiving? What about all the other 1647 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 2: black families that don't forgive, because I've seen them too, Yes, sir, 1648 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of those families too. We're not 1649 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:40,919 Speaker 2: a monolith. 1650 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,600 Speaker 3: It's okay that we have a range of emotions. 1651 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,800 Speaker 2: If you don't want to, if you don't want this 1652 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 2: guy to be seen as a symbolic moment for blackness, fine, 1653 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 2: then celebrate these other families that are like, man, fuck 1654 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 2: the people who kill my kid and I'm never gonna 1655 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 2: forgive them. Celebrate them. 1656 01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 3: But either way you try to put us all in line, 1657 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 3: it's just it's just listen tiring, all right. We got 1658 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 3: another voicemail. This one's two voicemails. 1659 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,360 Speaker 9: Hi Rod and Karen, It's Jen from Brooklyn. 1660 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 8: Happy Friday. 1661 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 4: I just want to call it. 1662 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 8: Just listened to the Punches and Hugs, the one where 1663 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 8: you tagged it with the panel, and I just I 1664 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 8: originally honestly skipped it and I went back and listened 1665 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 8: to it because I run out of your podcast to 1666 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 8: listen to, and I. 1667 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,479 Speaker 3: Really loved it. 1668 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 8: I'm so glad that I listened to it because honestly, 1669 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 8: I am just I sound crazy. 1670 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm probably all know. 1671 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 8: I don't know y'all, but I'm so proud of y'all. 1672 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 9: I just love the way that y'all did in your 1673 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 9: truth about just being successful podcasts. You're definitely like the 1674 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,600 Speaker 9: Unicorn of podcasts, like you're indie, like you know, but 1675 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 9: you have mainstream numbers and you're You're definitely my best best. 1676 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 8: Kept podcast secret. 1677 01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 9: I think that I get so much from almost every 1678 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 9: episode and I'm just so thankful to y'all and just listening. 1679 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 10: To y'all talk about how you did it, and I've 1680 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,720 Speaker 10: heard you talk about in the show, but how you 1681 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,880 Speaker 10: talked about it in relation to. 1682 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 9: Other podcasters is so interesting because it really does it's 1683 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 9: evident that your dreams have come true. 1684 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 3: To this podcast and it gives me hope. 1685 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 9: I'm out here in the streets in New York, I'm 1686 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,480 Speaker 9: singing and things are going well. And I've been reflecting 1687 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,640 Speaker 9: a lot on it lately because it has definitely been 1688 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 9: a journey, and I think you guys had a similar 1689 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 9: situation where it hasn't been like any kind of superstartup. 1690 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 7: It's been a journey where all of a sudden you're 1691 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 7: doing really well. 1692 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 9: And in him, it's inspiring for me because y'all is 1693 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 9: just regular black, and I mean that in the best way, 1694 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 9: you know. 1695 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 3: Like I'm regular black. 1696 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 9: I don't have rich, famous parents or these strong connections 1697 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 9: that I came into the city with. And it's been 1698 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,640 Speaker 9: tougher because of that, but so. 1699 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:53,720 Speaker 6: Much more rewarding one. 1700 01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 9: I feel so much more thankful now for all of 1701 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,600 Speaker 9: my successes, and even I just feel like even the 1702 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 9: way you normalize, like you know, you talked about. 1703 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 3: Oh she got cut off off, she left for another 1704 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 3: message as well, finish the thought. 1705 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1706 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1707 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 2: Also, I appreciate you because I added that audio to 1708 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 2: the end, and I knew it wasn't great quality audio, 1709 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, nobody probably gonna listen to shit 1710 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 2: or they'll probably cut off the podcast when when they 1711 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,720 Speaker 2: get to that point, because it's gonna look when you 1712 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 2: just pick it up, dallars, it looks like it's two 1713 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 2: and a half hours. 1714 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 3: It's really an hour and a half. 1715 01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,439 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, they probably most people won't 1716 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 2: want to hear it because it's not as good quality, 1717 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 2: but you never. 1718 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,160 Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, some people actually do. 1719 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 2: Some people Jay from Ta with Queen and Jay had 1720 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 2: hit me up and said, Hey, thank y'all for putting 1721 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 2: the audio from the panel y'all did with Professor Bambie, right, 1722 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,080 Speaker 2: you know, so like you know, I appreciate y'all. 1723 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 3: Man, all right, let me play the rest of. 1724 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 10: I promised myself I would never be the person to 1725 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 10: get cut off here I am, but that's what. 1726 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 3: I was saying. 1727 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 9: I love that you kind of uh spoke as a 1728 01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,440 Speaker 9: moderator about. 1729 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 7: How you monetize and how you know, she was saying 1730 01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 7: that you should wait until somebody takes you up. Y'all 1731 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 7: just kind of like taking a step by step and 1732 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 7: like using ads and things like that, and you're just 1733 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 7: you're using. 1734 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,640 Speaker 10: Your numbers and your fan base to make it this 1735 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,799 Speaker 10: a living. So I'm just really impressed by y'all always 1736 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,000 Speaker 10: and very inspired. And I just wanted to also say 1737 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,640 Speaker 10: that I love how you normalize liking your spouse. 1738 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:39,879 Speaker 9: Just a matter of fact way that y'all. 1739 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 7: Talked about that that's something that's something. 1740 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 9: That seems like very unattainable to a lot of people, 1741 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 9: myself included, And you've just kind of normalized respecting and 1742 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:48,759 Speaker 9: enjoying your partner. 1743 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 7: And y'all are a couple goal with, like, not in 1744 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:51,680 Speaker 7: a weird. 1745 01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 9: Social media way where it's like, oh, you create this perfectly, 1746 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 9: in like an authentic way where you know, I look 1747 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 9: to you guys, and I something that I want, like 1748 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 9: I supposed to say, like, oh, it's just like you 1749 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 9: can disagree and still continue on a conversation where you can, Oh, 1750 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 9: you guys, it's not doing you feel a lot weirdly enough. 1751 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 9: I'm sure y'all know this. You don't see that a 1752 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 9: lot where people just really enjoy each other and able. 1753 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 5: To grow together and learn together. 1754 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,600 Speaker 9: So I love y'all, and I'm just feeling emotional and 1755 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 9: excited as for y'all and all of your success, and 1756 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 9: I'm so glad that you have so much content like 1757 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:27,839 Speaker 9: listening to every day I hope. 1758 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,880 Speaker 8: You have a great week and say that I rambled, 1759 01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 8: have a great week and love y'all. 1760 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 6: TI. 1761 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 3: Oh sweet, Oh it was so nice. 1762 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,880 Speaker 4: Oh I'm glad you you listen to it. Like I said, 1763 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 4: it wasn't the best equality, but I was like, we 1764 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 4: did this, and I wanted to be sure that you know, 1765 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 4: people got to hear it that actually wasn't initially in 1766 01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 4: the room. 1767 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, there's like a lot of stuff when 1768 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 2: we talk and the typical questions people asking, you know, 1769 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,759 Speaker 2: we don't really prepare answers. 1770 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 3: We just kind of go off the top of the 1771 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 3: don't But. 1772 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 2: You know, I do like to think we provide normally 1773 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 2: a different perspective than a lot of people in the room. 1774 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 2: And I try not to come off to like let 1775 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 2: me tell you how to do a podcast, you know. 1776 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 4: Because that's the other thing. I don't think I'm better 1777 01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,719 Speaker 4: than and I don't think I have the answers to everything, 1778 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 4: like like when we realize this that you know, it's 1779 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,200 Speaker 4: one of those things where we understand that every marriage 1780 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 4: is different, you know, but we do realize that it 1781 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,719 Speaker 4: is normal for people to be like I can't stand 1782 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 4: my spouse, So I don't think me and my spouse 1783 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,240 Speaker 4: could get along, which is true for a lot of 1784 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 4: people to do a podcast, and we're not knocking that 1785 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 4: at all. We can only speak from our personal experiences. 1786 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I like being on the panels 1787 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,160 Speaker 3: just because I will. 1788 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 2: I think we give a different perspective than most podcasts, 1789 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,120 Speaker 2: you know, and probably most of the Beaten Path information 1790 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 2: that you're going to hear on the internet where it's 1791 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 2: not going to apply to us. 1792 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,560 Speaker 4: Right, It's very generic a lot of times, not to 1793 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 4: be funny. A lot of it is everything has to 1794 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:56,840 Speaker 4: be fit in a box. You have to do this, 1795 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,240 Speaker 4: you have to do that, you have to for me. 1796 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,680 Speaker 4: Know what we do go against all your formulas. 1797 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're like podcast rock and roll baby. 1798 01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we all here doing a little different all right, 1799 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 2: last we got two more voice for one more part. 1800 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 1: It's baby Kaitanya hope all as well. I just want 1801 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 1: us to stop buying me a voice now to say 1802 01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 1: thank you guys again for sharing your personal journeys and 1803 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,200 Speaker 1: learning how to discern if people are really looking for 1804 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 1: you or if they're just friend of medes, and how 1805 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:33,880 Speaker 1: to let go. Recently, I had a temporary full time 1806 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 1: position at a state university, and as per state university rules, 1807 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,640 Speaker 1: once the the position became permanent, I'd have to go 1808 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,200 Speaker 1: on the girl of the whole search process again for 1809 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 1: my supervisor. 1810 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 3: My Scholler. 1811 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: You guys had told me that she was really excited 1812 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 1: for me and she wanted me to be in the 1813 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 1: position and that she would do everything to fight for me. 1814 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 1: It came down to, after going to the host search process, 1815 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,680 Speaker 1: she actually delivered me to me that I was not 1816 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:07,600 Speaker 1: picked and that she was actually under pressure from the 1817 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 1: upper management, like the president and the provost to go 1818 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,760 Speaker 1: with someone else. It kind of felt funky that I 1819 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,639 Speaker 1: was like okay, Like I tried to empathize and see 1820 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:20,559 Speaker 1: where's coming from, and I was like okay, And then 1821 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: she also offered to be my mentor. So kind of funky, 1822 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,240 Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, let's. 1823 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 8: See, let's go with it. 1824 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: A couple week later, not so long ago, a professor 1825 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 1: that I made friends with actually told me that they 1826 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: approached the third committee to just to get some information 1827 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 1: about it, and they found out that actually micros Advisor 1828 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 1: one hundred percent picked the person who replaced me, and 1829 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 1: the SARCH committee was one hundred percent against it. So 1830 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: I took this to mean that my guys pretty much 1831 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 1: lied to my face. That's kind of a friend of me. 1832 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: So I actually emailed her and told her that this 1833 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,320 Speaker 1: mentorship got it could sit for me and with her 1834 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: all the best. So I'm telling you all. 1835 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,240 Speaker 3: Of this, just said she got cut off, on off 1836 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 3: and go to the next message. Oh my god, what 1837 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 3: smiling your motherfucking face out, keep that same. 1838 01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Energy, man, don't don't do that. Don't do that if 1839 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 2: you don't and he didn't. Never think it was going 1840 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 2: to get back to her, right, Oh my god, Oh 1841 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 2: all right, it's far. 1842 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Too Tanya again. 1843 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 4: Funny. 1844 01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I actually tried to rehearses on my phone app, but 1845 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 1: or the voice app. I say, got better at this, 1846 01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know along anyway. So to finish my point, 1847 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:50,799 Speaker 1: so I uh rejected my former supervisors offered my mentors. 1848 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: I realized that she wasn't rocking for me as she 1849 01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: said she would, and I figured that pretty much it's 1850 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 1: caught my losses and to move on and to find 1851 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,360 Speaker 1: someone who actually would be an nswer and would be 1852 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,760 Speaker 1: more supportive and not I know, two faces. Just wanting 1853 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,400 Speaker 1: to share up with you guys, to say thank you 1854 01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 1: so much for letting us in on like the rusting 1855 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: that you guys have learned, and how you've learned to 1856 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 1: not hold on the people who are spying your face. 1857 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: One day, look behind your factor doing something totally different. 1858 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Thank you again for everything, and hope you guys have 1859 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:32,759 Speaker 1: a great weekend. 1860 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I hate that happened me too. 1861 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. 1862 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and this is just me on the 1863 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:46,840 Speaker 4: outside looking in. A lot of times people see greatness 1864 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 4: in you that you don't see in yourself. I'm just 1865 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, from my perspective, it looks like 1866 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 4: she's seen something special in you. And she was like, 1867 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,040 Speaker 4: if I allow her to come in here, she fucking 1868 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,880 Speaker 4: my outshine me. I'm just gonna kick that reel. And 1869 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 4: so she didn't hire you because she didn't want to 1870 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 4: outshine you, which means if everybody else was like yeah, 1871 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,640 Speaker 4: that means they've seen something in you too. When she 1872 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 4: actually seen something in you, that's why she even told 1873 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 4: you about the opportunity in the first place. And the 1874 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,519 Speaker 4: thing is, I think that she was intimidated by you. 1875 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,000 Speaker 4: So she was like, well, I'm gonna tell her that 1876 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 4: we didn't pick her. Then I'm gonna turn around and 1877 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,000 Speaker 4: try to keep her up unerneath my wings while I 1878 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 4: can do something of controlling so she won't quote unquote 1879 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,879 Speaker 4: outshine me, out grow me. I can kind of dictate 1880 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 4: and put parameters around you, because you know her mind, 1881 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna be great because I've realized that other people can. 1882 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:43,360 Speaker 4: People that put like this, your greatness intimidates other people. 1883 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes people have to understand that. Sometimes people can see 1884 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 4: where you're going and see your path before you can, 1885 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of times when they do, everybody that 1886 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,640 Speaker 4: puts themselves around you ain't really there to support you 1887 01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,800 Speaker 4: and help quite the path. Some people are there just 1888 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 4: so they can kind of go on the path with 1889 01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,240 Speaker 4: you and take credit for your work and take credit 1890 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 4: for what you do. See because you know what, Let's 1891 01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 4: say you was to stay and you was to do 1892 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,640 Speaker 4: these great things. She could brag about how she mentored you. 1893 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,719 Speaker 4: Let me just keep that real. Like everybody that attaches 1894 01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 4: themselves to you don't always have a good purpose of 1895 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 4: a good reasoning. And so as you get older and 1896 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 4: as you begin to get around people, you have to 1897 01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 4: get to the point where you discern who's around you 1898 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,559 Speaker 4: for the right reasons. And sometimes that's easier to see 1899 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 4: than others. But I'm glad you declined because it's one 1900 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,960 Speaker 4: of those things where that wouldn't have ended well. And 1901 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,639 Speaker 4: like I said, she would have took credit for your work. 1902 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to tell you, like my friend Nickju 1903 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,680 Speaker 3: told me, sometimes somebody. 1904 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,439 Speaker 2: Just a whack bitch, come on a whack ass bitch, 1905 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 2: and it ain't really even a whole lot of like 1906 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,280 Speaker 2: I don't even got a conspiracy for you or. 1907 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 4: Whatever, straight up philosophy. 1908 01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,759 Speaker 2: All I know is her telling you in your face 1909 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 2: something different than what she really felt is whack. You 1910 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like if she really felt that way, 1911 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 2: like I've had people where like I felt something they 1912 01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 2: was doing was whack and I understood it wasn't my 1913 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 2: business or they weren't the kind of person I could 1914 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:16,680 Speaker 2: talk to. 1915 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 3: About it cool. 1916 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 2: But what I won't do is then be like, well, 1917 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,840 Speaker 2: you know I was vouching for you the other day 1918 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 2: because blah blah blah, Like nah, if I wasn't, I wasn't. 1919 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I don't fuck with you. 1920 01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:29,560 Speaker 3: I don't fuck with you, and I don't want the 1921 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 3: appearances that I fuck with you for everybody else, and 1922 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm a cordial, casual person. I won't be mean to you. 1923 01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:38,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call you out your name, not gonna 1924 01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 2: disrespect you, but I'm not like carrying a torch for 1925 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 2: you in line for you either, you know, And I'm 1926 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 2: not gonna come in your face and act like that 1927 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 2: shit is like we like, we cool. Like you get 1928 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 2: the same level of baseline treatment as everybody else as 1929 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,280 Speaker 2: long as you leave me to fuck alone. 1930 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,040 Speaker 3: And I think with somebody like that, it's the opposite 1931 01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 3: where it's like no, no. 1932 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,720 Speaker 2: No, I want you to feel like and loved and 1933 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 2: all this shit, especially if she was all up on 1934 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,479 Speaker 2: you when you got that job, if she love bombed 1935 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,040 Speaker 2: you or anything like that, because that's some narcissistic type 1936 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 2: of behavioral like oh I love love love you. And 1937 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 2: then behind the scenes, girl, fuck that is she I 1938 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,080 Speaker 2: had trying thinks she gonna get this position. I don't 1939 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 2: think so I'm against it. And then in your face, Oh, 1940 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you didn't get the position. 1941 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 3: I was rooting for you. I told everybody like nah, 1942 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 3: because you could have said nothing. 1943 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:31,799 Speaker 2: Right, You could have been against me getting that position 1944 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,960 Speaker 2: for whatever reason you felt and then just came to 1945 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,000 Speaker 2: me and said nothing. 1946 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,360 Speaker 3: You didn't have to do. Oh you just didn't get it. Cool, 1947 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 3: you know, let me feel in the blame. I guess 1948 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:42,400 Speaker 3: she don't fuck with me. 1949 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 4: Cool. 1950 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,720 Speaker 2: But nah, that's some diabolical shit, man, that's whack. That's 1951 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,280 Speaker 2: whack as fucked. I'm mad on your behalf, especially the 1952 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:50,799 Speaker 2: fact that it was dealing with your career. 1953 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 3: That's some shit like that. Like, nah, and she was 1954 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,760 Speaker 3: in a position to have and the fact that if 1955 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,559 Speaker 3: she felt there. 1956 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,479 Speaker 2: Was some type of reason you shouldn't have had that job, 1957 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 2: she could have if she's your supervisor, y'all could have. 1958 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 3: Had a meeting, could have talked about y'all could have 1959 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:05,760 Speaker 3: talked about it. 1960 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,920 Speaker 2: You know, like, come on, now, there's built in ways 1961 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,040 Speaker 2: at a job for that to happen. A lot of 1962 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,760 Speaker 2: times when we talk about this stuff, we're really talking 1963 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,679 Speaker 2: about like internet shit, you know, or or prior job stuff. 1964 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 2: But you know, the Internet stuff was new for me 1965 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 2: because I've never looked at the Internet as my job 1966 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,680 Speaker 2: until now. Yeah, but it has been my job for 1967 01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 2: several years, but this is like the first year, first 1968 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: couple of years, I've been looking at it like, oh, 1969 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,760 Speaker 2: this is my job. Some of these people are kind 1970 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,920 Speaker 2: of like pushing up on me because they see what 1971 01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 2: we're doing and they just want to be a part 1972 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 2: of it. 1973 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:38,800 Speaker 3: They don't really fuck with us. 1974 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 4: Correct see it all the time. 1975 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 2: And the second that they disagree with us, they throw 1976 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,760 Speaker 2: us in the trash. Yeah, Like I don't do that, no, 1977 01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,439 Speaker 2: And like I said, and like they call us friend 1978 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,800 Speaker 2: and then do that a lot of like you're not 1979 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,719 Speaker 2: my I know that's not true because I have friends, 1980 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,960 Speaker 2: and all my friends if they do something I disagree with, 1981 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,840 Speaker 2: the fuck up. If we can talk about it, we're cool. 1982 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,120 Speaker 2: And if we don't talk about it, guess what that means, 1983 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm okay with it, you know what I'm saying. So, like, 1984 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,720 Speaker 2: if Justin does something I disagree with, but it ain't 1985 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,559 Speaker 2: that big a deal, I'm not gonna pull into the side. 1986 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,720 Speaker 2: Hey man the other day, all right, Saul, because of 1987 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 2: what fucking friendship is. But when you become friends in 1988 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,839 Speaker 2: a throwaway manner, and this woman. 1989 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:19,679 Speaker 3: Basically threw you away. 1990 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,840 Speaker 2: When you become friends in that throw with people that 1991 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 2: throw people away easily, that's that's the different game ball 1992 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 2: playing or like. 1993 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,720 Speaker 3: Nah, don't give it that promotion. Hell, no, fuck her, Like, 1994 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 3: why would you do that? Because you never value me 1995 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 3: in the first place. 1996 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,439 Speaker 2: Don't come to my fucking yearly review talking about how 1997 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:38,320 Speaker 2: great employee I am. 1998 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:39,000 Speaker 3: You don't believe that. 1999 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 2: Keep that same energy when you see me in the 2000 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 2: streets too, don't know, waving, no smiling, no sneaking, you know, like. 2001 01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 3: Keep that same energy. Then all right, let me pousic. 2002 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,080 Speaker 3: We need to go to the next session. 2003 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so now let's finish off this with 2004 01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,240 Speaker 2: the emails that we receive. And yeah, I'm sorry about that. 2005 01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 2: But you know the other thing I realized too. Man 2006 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 2: at forty one, I hated it took me so long 2007 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:09,040 Speaker 2: to get here, but nigga, I'm here now. Look, man, 2008 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:15,520 Speaker 2: my parents ain't raised no trash. My parents raised a good, empathic, 2009 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 2: thoughtful human being. And I'll be looking at people sometimes 2010 01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:29,840 Speaker 2: that are the most vile, mean, bullied, can't keep relationships, 2011 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:35,720 Speaker 2: can't can't stomach disagreement, can't handle anything less than one 2012 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:40,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent like sheep, like loyalty motherfuckers, and they never 2013 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,120 Speaker 2: think they're wrong. You ever noticed that, Like these motherfuckers 2014 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 2: every day got a list of everybody that's wrong. And 2015 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,160 Speaker 2: it's never them, never apologized, Never I had some mistaken 2016 01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 2: They you know, anything they say about you, they expect 2017 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 2: is the gospel fucking truth. And I think about how 2018 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,519 Speaker 2: that person and never feels any doubt about how they behave. 2019 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 3: They never think, am I fucking shit up? Am I 2020 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:08,400 Speaker 3: making things worse? 2021 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 10: Like? 2022 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Is my harassing this person getting me anywhere? They never 2023 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 2: think that shit? And here I am second guessing every 2024 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,080 Speaker 2: fucking move I make, trying not to step onto me toes, 2025 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,640 Speaker 2: to try and be a nice person right, trying to 2026 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 2: consider other people's point of view, And it extends, because 2027 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,439 Speaker 2: I'll know I'm an impact, it extends all the way to. 2028 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,679 Speaker 3: Like the worst kind of person. 2029 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:33,519 Speaker 2: I still go, well, maybe it's this like I write 2030 01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:34,599 Speaker 2: a story for them in my head. 2031 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 3: Maybe it's that you know, I know it's not healthy, 2032 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 3: And I'm trying to learn to limit that shit. You know, 2033 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 3: I really am. 2034 01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,640 Speaker 4: But that's one thing I do love about you. 2035 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,080 Speaker 3: But go ahead, thank you. 2036 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,400 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to learn to cut it back some 2037 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,600 Speaker 2: because sometimes it's a case for a nigga that I 2038 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,880 Speaker 2: don't need a case, And I don't like being devil's 2039 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 2: advocate or shit, but I do try to understand people. 2040 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 2: But the point being like, some days I need to 2041 01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 2: give myself the same fucking rope i'm giving them, because 2042 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 2: I give people a lot of fucking rope where I'm like, well, 2043 01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,720 Speaker 2: maybe this person's this way because they've been dealing with 2044 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,400 Speaker 2: this type of trauma, and da da da da nigga, 2045 01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:12,320 Speaker 2: I've dealt with trauma. 2046 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I have shit that happened 2047 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:16,679 Speaker 3: in my life. Just because I'm not on the internet 2048 01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 3: complaining about it all day don't mean it ain't real agreed. 2049 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: Just because I choose to deal with it privately or 2050 01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 2: offline does not mean that. It's like, I try to 2051 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,200 Speaker 2: remember that not everybody is as perfect as you, they 2052 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 2: as you make them in your head so you can 2053 01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 2: chastise them. 2054 01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,160 Speaker 3: It's why when we talk about celebrities, we very rarely 2055 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,960 Speaker 3: are just like, fuck this person agreed. Most of the time, 2056 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, shit, they probably went through this, they 2057 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,760 Speaker 3: could be going through that. 2058 01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,639 Speaker 2: I don't fucking know this guy, I don't know this woman, 2059 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like, I do that for everybody, 2060 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,160 Speaker 2: and then in my own head, I'm the hardest on me, 2061 01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,799 Speaker 2: and that's not real. That's not that's not okay, Because 2062 01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 2: if someone was doing that to me, being that unforgiving 2063 01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 2: and that fucking like real, I would be. 2064 01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,880 Speaker 3: Like, yo, back up off of me. 2065 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 2: If I saw a friend treating someone that way, where 2066 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,479 Speaker 2: they were just like constantly on their ass all the time, 2067 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, what's wrong with you? Like, let 2068 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,479 Speaker 2: that person live their life. You move on, like this 2069 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,120 Speaker 2: isn't for you. And yet how many of us have 2070 01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 2: that script in our own head doing it to ourselves. Oh, 2071 01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 2: you didn't say this the right way, you didn't do that. 2072 01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,840 Speaker 2: What was you doing over here? What was you doing 2073 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:27,679 Speaker 2: over there? What about this decision you made. 2074 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,040 Speaker 3: A year ago? You know, I wasn't perfect, so fuck me. 2075 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,439 Speaker 2: And yet those people who do that for a living, 2076 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,679 Speaker 2: that just constantly tell everybody how they got them everybody 2077 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 2: is fucked up. They never do it for themselves, you know, 2078 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 2: or if they do that, they keep that part private, 2079 01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,640 Speaker 2: the part that many of us put out there to 2080 01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 2: the world like, Yo, I'm not. 2081 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 3: Perfect, Yo, guess what I fucked up this time? 2082 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 2: That like, these people keep that shit to themselves and 2083 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,160 Speaker 2: then try to put themselves on a pedestal so they 2084 01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,720 Speaker 2: can rain down judgment on everybody else. And I've been 2085 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,760 Speaker 2: sitting here letting that happen and letting myself feel bad, 2086 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm done with that shit. So 2087 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,920 Speaker 2: it's over for that. Like I'm stepping into the bad bitch. 2088 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be man like if if if you're 2089 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,320 Speaker 2: gonna be that confident that we don't get it right 2090 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 2: or we do fuck up, then let me be that 2091 01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,640 Speaker 2: confident that I'm doing good because somebody need to be, 2092 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 2: you know. And I'm accepting some of the things people 2093 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 2: have been saying because people tell us all the time, 2094 01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:29,720 Speaker 2: you do a great job. 2095 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 3: You make us. 2096 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 2: You taught me how to care about something, you taught 2097 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 2: me empathy for something, you educated me on something. And 2098 01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,840 Speaker 2: while it's not our goal, if people tell me, hey, 2099 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,880 Speaker 2: you're I'm a better person because of what y'all do, 2100 01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,160 Speaker 2: who am I to tell them they not? Why would 2101 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 2: I let that not sink in? But I would let 2102 01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:52,000 Speaker 2: any negative comment about me sink in. I gotta flip 2103 01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 2: the polarity on that shit. And the more successful we 2104 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 2: get in the bigger fucking like platform we have, the 2105 01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 2: more it's gonna be people sniping. You know, this wasn't 2106 01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,680 Speaker 2: right that wasn't right. And the only advice I got 2107 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,200 Speaker 2: for them is if you if you're righteous, do it yourself. 2108 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 2: If you do it, if you do it yourself and 2109 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 2: your ship better than us, that that'll speak for volume. 2110 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,800 Speaker 4: Yes it will, and I won't have a problem with it. 2111 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if not, maybe maybe you should be listening 2112 01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,000 Speaker 2: to us and not the other way around. All right, 2113 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,519 Speaker 2: let's get to some of these comments in the emails, 2114 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,920 Speaker 2: Katya says, there's so much to cultural appropriation rules, there's 2115 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:30,680 Speaker 2: so much to impact in this topic. But I just 2116 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 2: want to say that when a Kardashian gets crown rows, 2117 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 2: I think corn rows for example, and it's celebrated as 2118 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 2: being cutting edge and fashionable for this new hairstyle, but 2119 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 2: I can literally be denied a job in fashion of 2120 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 2: beauty or be considered aggressive or ghetto for the same 2121 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 2: style hair that we black. 2122 01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,479 Speaker 3: Women have always worn. There is a problem, and that 2123 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:58,719 Speaker 3: is cultural appropriation. There is a problem. I'm not sure 2124 01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,439 Speaker 3: it's cultural appropriation unless they try to claim they came 2125 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:02,920 Speaker 3: up with it. 2126 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 4: And a lot of times it be the articles to 2127 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,719 Speaker 4: be the problem. Like a lot of times people people 2128 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:11,600 Speaker 4: like the part like the Kardashians won't say things and 2129 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 4: people will be like, this is the greatest thing ever, 2130 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 4: but the person didn't say it, it'd be the articles 2131 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:18,960 Speaker 4: in the way that presented something. 2132 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,080 Speaker 2: And the Kardashians are just like that group of people 2133 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,479 Speaker 2: that I don't really fuck with to know just how 2134 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,760 Speaker 2: viol they must be the people. And I get why 2135 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 2: people don't fuck with them because part of it is 2136 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:34,040 Speaker 2: because they get all this fucking credit for being black 2137 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 2: without being black, right, and that is infuriating and I 2138 01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 2: and the thing with the Kardashians is I can never 2139 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 2: be one hundred percent sure how much of it is 2140 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 2: completely orchestrated by them, because them motherfuckers run some media, okay, 2141 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 2: like let me let them step outside. It's like the 2142 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 2: articles right themselves, and they always say the same shit. 2143 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 2: Some of my favorite blogs have these like they be 2144 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,560 Speaker 2: scathing on everybody else, but when it's the Kardashians, like, 2145 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 2: it's totally different. 2146 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,880 Speaker 3: So I don't know how much media they buy. I 2147 01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 3: don't know what their influence is. 2148 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,599 Speaker 2: I know they make millions, if not billions of dollars 2149 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 2: from the beauty industry and the attention they get from 2150 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,559 Speaker 2: black people as well, Like it's not just white people 2151 01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,800 Speaker 2: that support them, And I also know that one of 2152 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 2: those groups where people go nobody fucks with them, But 2153 01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:25,200 Speaker 2: then anytime something happens on that show, I see all 2154 01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,760 Speaker 2: the clips on the time. Yeah, I see all the 2155 01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 2: clips on the timeline, which all breaking down like seasons 2156 01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 2: worth of fucking inside shit. So I'm like, y'all must 2157 01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:35,639 Speaker 2: be watching this shit. I don't know what to deal 2158 01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:40,599 Speaker 2: the watching anyway. My main point is that that's hard 2159 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,599 Speaker 2: for me to say because I don't know when it's 2160 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:46,320 Speaker 2: them and when it's the media. And I feel like, 2161 01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:51,200 Speaker 2: if it's the media, maybe not. You know, like if Sophie, 2162 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 2: uh my girl from Sophie Turner goes outside wearing Timbaland 2163 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,160 Speaker 2: boots and Vanity writes an article about Timbaland boots filing 2164 01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,680 Speaker 2: fashion icon for women. 2165 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 3: And y'all go, that's cultural appropriation for Sophie Turner. 2166 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit like, I don't know because unless 2167 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,960 Speaker 2: she's going around saying I am the first nigga wesn 2168 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,680 Speaker 2: town fuck all black women, I'm like, I don't know 2169 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:18,240 Speaker 2: if that is. 2170 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 3: But if they wrote that, that is. 2171 01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Vanity Fair is maybe not 2172 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,439 Speaker 2: Sophie Turner individual. So anyway, I hope that that made 2173 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,200 Speaker 2: some sense. It's why I don't like talking about the shit. 2174 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:34,280 Speaker 4: Right And also even from the beginning, it's all subjective, 2175 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,160 Speaker 4: and that was my biggest point, and that's what I'm 2176 01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:40,240 Speaker 4: gonna keep saying through this whole thing. It is all subjective. 2177 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,080 Speaker 4: I understand when people mad, I understand what people upset 2178 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:47,479 Speaker 4: I do, and sometimes it's bigger than these individual people. 2179 01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 4: It's the system. But you can't attack the system. It's 2180 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 4: easy to attack individual people that it is to attack 2181 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 4: an entire system that has fucking from the foundation of 2182 01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 4: America built and designed for something. 2183 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,479 Speaker 2: That we don't have any control and erase black people, right, 2184 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,240 Speaker 2: So I understand in fashion and hair and bodies, specifically 2185 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 2: black women get erased. 2186 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 3: For us to give the same credit to women who 2187 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,519 Speaker 3: are not black, I get it. And this is not 2188 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,200 Speaker 3: a denial of the fact and the truth that is happening. 2189 01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:22,280 Speaker 2: It's more about macro versus macro, and I don't necessarily 2190 01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 2: know when micro applies and when it doesn't, but I 2191 01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 2: know macro is. 2192 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,879 Speaker 3: Always in the game. But like when. 2193 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,880 Speaker 2: Like, there's something about the Kardashians that I just think 2194 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:40,440 Speaker 2: they are such a powerful media family I can't separate 2195 01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 2: the way they're written about from the way they want 2196 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 2: to be perceived, and so I have a hard. 2197 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 3: Time letting them off the hook. 2198 01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,080 Speaker 2: I just mostly try to stay away from them and 2199 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:55,800 Speaker 2: offer their fucking topics because there's also times where people 2200 01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:00,720 Speaker 2: are almost unreasonably hateful about them, and I'm like, this 2201 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:06,080 Speaker 2: is like after years and years of antagonism and people 2202 01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,679 Speaker 2: wanting them. There's a lot of elements with those women 2203 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 2: that's like the fucking. 2204 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 3: Black dudes and having black babies and wanting to have 2205 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,799 Speaker 3: black surgery bodies. 2206 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:19,280 Speaker 2: Like, there's so much with those women that I just 2207 01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,240 Speaker 2: don't think that there's a way to have a conversation 2208 01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 2: about them that is gonna be neat. 2209 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:25,719 Speaker 3: It's always fucked up. 2210 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:30,440 Speaker 4: Right, it's fucked up, and it's complex, and it's complicated, 2211 01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,960 Speaker 4: and there's a whole bunch of shit mixed up in 2212 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:37,519 Speaker 4: one that people don't want to talk about because it's 2213 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:42,519 Speaker 4: like they start, a lot of people's racial feelings pop up, 2214 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,120 Speaker 4: and that's a lot of the stems in race, and 2215 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 4: people don't want admit this when it comes to them. 2216 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,960 Speaker 4: It's racial for a lot of people. I don't like 2217 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,640 Speaker 4: them white bitches. I don't like them white bitches. I 2218 01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,800 Speaker 4: don't like they mama, I don't like they kids. I 2219 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,680 Speaker 4: don't like they men. It's fuck them. Fuck everything they do, 2220 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,720 Speaker 4: fuck everything they stay say, fuck everything they stand for 2221 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,120 Speaker 4: because they and I completely understand, they get credits for 2222 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 4: shit that niggers get criticized on niggas. Sorry, yeah what 2223 01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:14,680 Speaker 4: R I don't know, my bad. I don't know. I 2224 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:19,720 Speaker 4: realized that my bad that niggas get criticized one and 2225 01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 4: I think that that is a a real thing. And 2226 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 4: I think that some people have been on that train 2227 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,599 Speaker 4: with them forever and they are never gonna get off 2228 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,000 Speaker 4: that train. They got the right to be mad and 2229 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,640 Speaker 4: be upset. I do understand that, but I don't have 2230 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 4: that same energy. I don't have that same anger. I 2231 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,679 Speaker 4: don't follow them. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. 2232 01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,960 Speaker 4: I don't care. But for a lot of people that 2233 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,679 Speaker 4: come out and say, fuck them bitches, y'all know everything 2234 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,320 Speaker 4: about their show. Y'all know who got their lips blown up, 2235 01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 4: y'all know who got a butt injection, y'all keep up 2236 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 4: with them real for people to not give a fuck. 2237 01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,559 Speaker 3: That's why they call it keeping with the Kardashians. 2238 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:00,880 Speaker 4: And back people keep up with them, just like the 2239 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:01,920 Speaker 4: white folks keep up with them. 2240 01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,640 Speaker 2: But more importantly, you racist? What are you getting this 2241 01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 2: r it flipping out over the last month or so. 2242 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,559 Speaker 2: I don't know when this started, what you've been influenced from? 2243 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 2: What kind of stuff you watching and reading or listening to? 2244 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,600 Speaker 2: You listening to some racist podcasts over there? Not to 2245 01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,719 Speaker 2: the best of my knowledge, who else. 2246 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:24,840 Speaker 3: Is saying hard er niggers? Who's doing this? What's going on? 2247 01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:25,240 Speaker 4: Can? 2248 01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, m you need to watch that. I 2249 01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,360 Speaker 3: don't know what's going on. 2250 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,519 Speaker 4: Can I need to check myself before rect myself. 2251 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get off show canceled calling people niggers, Man, 2252 01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where it's coming from. Man, white people 2253 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:42,439 Speaker 2: are gonna be listening us thinking they can do it. 2254 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,280 Speaker 2: You know, That's what really happened. I can go back 2255 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:48,760 Speaker 2: and forth with y'all, can't so much more. But that 2256 01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 2: was a quick opinion that I didn't know at the post. 2257 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,840 Speaker 2: Hashtag still listen nashtat, Still love y'all, Yeah, no doubt, 2258 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,320 Speaker 2: catchy out, you know, Like like I. 2259 01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 3: Said, with a lot of this ship. 2260 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, Next long ass appropriation John Wright saying nineteen sixty 2261 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,560 Speaker 2: eight cultural commerce. Rid and Karen love the show and 2262 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,280 Speaker 2: put five voter at John Quavia's underscore seat. 2263 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,760 Speaker 3: Oh cool, we got one from you today. Wow, this 2264 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 3: is long, and I don't. 2265 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 2: Expect you to read this on air. I wanted to 2266 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,560 Speaker 2: give you away a frame of culture appropriation. That's you 2267 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:20,400 Speaker 2: for going forward. 2268 01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,880 Speaker 3: First of all, if you send me some I'm reading 2269 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:23,400 Speaker 3: it on the air. 2270 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,519 Speaker 2: So I hope you didn't think I was gonna read 2271 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,599 Speaker 2: this long ass email in my personal time. 2272 01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:31,759 Speaker 3: Nigga, that's a work email. 2273 01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,439 Speaker 4: This is a work email. 2274 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,519 Speaker 2: I don't I don't participate in this for now. You 2275 01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 2: have no personal pleasure to talk about cultural appropriations. 2276 01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 4: Not doing this off the clock. 2277 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,599 Speaker 2: As long as I'm getting paid, we can go ahead 2278 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,400 Speaker 2: and talk about it here in the feedback show. 2279 01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,439 Speaker 3: Like for a while. If I was sitting in the 2280 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,000 Speaker 3: gym and some nigga walked un to me like, hey, man, 2281 01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,519 Speaker 3: let's let me be enjoy about cop appropriation, I'll be like, man, 2282 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 3: I am listening to earth gang, please respect my privacy. 2283 01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,599 Speaker 3: How to appropriate? The key is love. There are two types. 2284 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:06,599 Speaker 2: One love for humanity, which breaks down barriers imposed by race, religion, creed, class, culture, etc. 2285 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,439 Speaker 2: Like Bruce Lee did when he embraced a black student 2286 01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 2: into his martial art school, much to the displague of 2287 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,800 Speaker 2: other teachers who wanted to keep their culture lockdown. Bruce 2288 01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,920 Speaker 2: Lee loved humanity so much he was willing to risk 2289 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,640 Speaker 2: grave bodily harm to ensure his schools stayed open to 2290 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:23,880 Speaker 2: alle Number two, love for the specific culture, which requires 2291 01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,479 Speaker 2: a demonstration of deep knowledge, respect, and reverence of the 2292 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,840 Speaker 2: culture in the art. This requires a lot of study 2293 01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 2: of the culture past the President Highs and Lull's well 2294 01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:34,360 Speaker 2: known and long forgotten. This is the difficult to achieve, 2295 01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,160 Speaker 2: and most appropriators have neither the time or interest in 2296 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,240 Speaker 2: going as far. But this is what the Rizard did 2297 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,280 Speaker 2: with Wu Tang and mac miller did with his art. 2298 01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:46,519 Speaker 2: If the appropriating. If appropriating, there are only two groups 2299 01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,600 Speaker 2: to satisfied. While satisfying one group maybe good enough to 2300 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,639 Speaker 2: make lots of money and get a past that great 2301 01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:52,759 Speaker 2: satisfy both. 2302 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,960 Speaker 3: Nory. It's just so long and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 2303 01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:59,880 Speaker 2: I know you were really serious on you're at this. 2304 01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:05,040 Speaker 2: I try to try to be serious. So far oneber 2305 01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,920 Speaker 2: one the target audience. They need to not feel they 2306 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,200 Speaker 2: need to feel it as a bot much like R. 2307 01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,759 Speaker 2: Kelly's throw your thong and bust the rhymes air rive money. 2308 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 2: This is minimum standard. However, it likely won't get you 2309 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 2: praised from the culture you took it from. A simple 2310 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,719 Speaker 2: remedy is to be a gateway for your target audience 2311 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:26,760 Speaker 2: and this new culture engine works uh to art works 2312 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 2: of art from that culture and that shit that should 2313 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,800 Speaker 2: be embraced by all. Okay, I just want to say 2314 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,040 Speaker 2: with the target audience thing. A lot of times target 2315 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,800 Speaker 2: audience is black people, not always white people, and when 2316 01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:38,320 Speaker 2: it's us. 2317 01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:39,719 Speaker 3: We do not give a fuck. 2318 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:40,519 Speaker 4: Canal. 2319 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,000 Speaker 3: I ain't never heard black people try to shut down 2320 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 3: a ride money when it come on the club. You 2321 01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,120 Speaker 3: know now they may shut down throw your throng, but 2322 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 3: you know why, they ain't got nothing to do it. 2323 01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:52,799 Speaker 3: No approprission. 2324 01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 4: Too. 2325 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 3: The culture you took from, they need to see a 2326 01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,599 Speaker 3: demonstration of deep knowledge, respect, the reverence of the culture 2327 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,679 Speaker 3: so much so that they sing your praise. 2328 01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:03,880 Speaker 2: It really helps if they like you. To begin where 2329 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,879 Speaker 2: Kanye gave us keys to the game, especially in Late Registration, 2330 01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,439 Speaker 2: where he used skits to show how he'd hang out 2331 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,559 Speaker 2: with the broke steppers and take their culture to make money. 2332 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,680 Speaker 3: Off of it? What is that the thing? 2333 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 2: However, by the end of the skits they end up 2334 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,160 Speaker 2: hating them for it. In the end, so will hate 2335 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 2: you regardless, and. 2336 01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,560 Speaker 3: This fact should be accepted. I guess. I guess to 2337 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 3: the true. 2338 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:27,840 Speaker 2: Masters go to the heights of love by having the 2339 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,440 Speaker 2: whole culture hate you and then showing them a demonstration 2340 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 2: of deep knowledge, respecting reverence of the culture. 2341 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,439 Speaker 3: That's so good. It's beautiful to achieve this. 2342 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,479 Speaker 2: It's best as the whole culture actively hates show guts. 2343 01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,600 Speaker 2: Yay did this after the Taylor Swift incident? Well, he 2344 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,600 Speaker 2: made My Beautiful, Dark Twisted Fantasy and Yeezes, both of 2345 01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:49,200 Speaker 2: which took heavily from rock music greats esoteric works. Those 2346 01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,960 Speaker 2: two albums were so good the culture arbiters of rock 2347 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,120 Speaker 2: music were compelled to praise them. 2348 01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,439 Speaker 3: This is the love we all want. 2349 01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,360 Speaker 2: To feel from appropriators, though we should fault them if 2350 01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:00,960 Speaker 2: they don't fire to this level. 2351 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,760 Speaker 3: How do you get such a deep love? We can 2352 01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:08,760 Speaker 3: look to Michael Jackson and more specifically Teddy Perkins. Oh 2353 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,720 Speaker 3: my god, that's mark. Teddy preach it, preach hatred. But 2354 01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:17,160 Speaker 3: the Teddy's not real Okay, Nope, nope, nope, you meant this. 2355 01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wait till you get to that for my comments. 2356 01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,280 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Teddy, preach hatred, but the type of hatred 2357 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 2: that's required to bring forth love in the face of hatred. 2358 01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,240 Speaker 2: This is divine levels of hatred, where you're compelled by 2359 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 2: a higher power to hate to bring for the love. 2360 01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,120 Speaker 2: So much of it you could build a kingdom with 2361 01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,280 Speaker 2: the lord's work, pyramids, et cetera. You also find this 2362 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,719 Speaker 2: level of hatred with pimps. It's dangerous and especially evil 2363 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,280 Speaker 2: and may not work out. But if an artist can. 2364 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,439 Speaker 2: Teddy Perkins himself pimp slapped the love of himself in 2365 01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,799 Speaker 2: an ex Nigga, No, no, I tried. 2366 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:54,360 Speaker 4: I tried, I tried. 2367 01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 3: I can't do this. This is why we don't talk 2368 01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:58,639 Speaker 3: about on the show. 2369 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,200 Speaker 4: I thought we was gonna have to do some hotel music. 2370 01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,960 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you right now when Roger got 2371 01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:05,640 Speaker 4: to the end, since we're gonna go ahead and just 2372 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:06,200 Speaker 4: stop it right here. 2373 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done. I'm done. 2374 01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:10,559 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you how I feel about it. It's 2375 01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,000 Speaker 4: subjective and all your rules are fucking made up. These 2376 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,320 Speaker 4: are your personal rules. There's no book, there's no manual, 2377 01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,400 Speaker 4: there's no tablet, there's nothing written in stone that says 2378 01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:24,320 Speaker 4: that everything you just pointed out was facts. So no, baby, 2379 01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good. 2380 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,760 Speaker 4: We're getting ready to go down a dark hole that 2381 01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:31,719 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about. 2382 01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,400 Speaker 3: I'm just keep that real, Jesus Christ, this is why 2383 01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:39,439 Speaker 3: we don't talk about it. Y'all can't handle it, Barbara 2384 01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,280 Speaker 3: right saying nineteen sixty eight. 2385 01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh another one, Oh oh, this will be let me 2386 01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 2: guess it's very long, Hi Rod and Karen Lovely podcast. 2387 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,640 Speaker 2: The bit on Lily Sing was second reference to the complicated, 2388 01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 2: often underappreciated issue of racing Canada Canada in many weeks. 2389 01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,960 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, maybe we don't know something about this. We 2390 01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,640 Speaker 3: don't live in Canada. The other story was. 2391 01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,439 Speaker 2: Related to our Prime Minister Senenigans involving brown face. I'm 2392 01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,080 Speaker 2: a black woman, first generation born in Canada and grew 2393 01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 2: up in my parents' home country, Sierra Leone, West Africa. 2394 01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,080 Speaker 3: I happened to be a creole, aart creole. 2395 01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:15,080 Speaker 2: And a descendant of either liberated Africans, freed and escape 2396 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:19,360 Speaker 2: escape slaves who made their way up north to Nova 2397 01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:24,080 Speaker 2: Scotia over Jamaican Maroons, which I said complicated. There's so 2398 01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:26,320 Speaker 2: much to be said about the white Washington Canadian history 2399 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,120 Speaker 2: and discourse of the treatment of the First Nations people 2400 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,960 Speaker 2: and people of color. But I'll try to be brief 2401 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 2: and offering my two cents in my opinion. Tradeause pandering 2402 01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 2: to racialized groups and labeling himself a feminist, I might add, 2403 01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 2: had been shameful when held up against the government's record 2404 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,840 Speaker 2: on race and gender issues. I'm not surprised by the 2405 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,040 Speaker 2: brown face in this past. He and I are in 2406 01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,760 Speaker 2: the same age bracket. I remember there being a gollywog 2407 01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 2: piggy bank in the house when I was growing up. 2408 01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 3: Came over with us from Canada. 2409 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 2: Hideous to think about, how A think about now, but 2410 01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 2: a shame to say many of my parents' generation, as 2411 01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,320 Speaker 2: educated as they were, didn't know any better. I moved 2412 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 2: to Canada as an adult in the late nineties, left 2413 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:05,160 Speaker 2: into two thousand and two, and returned twenty eleven. When 2414 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,600 Speaker 2: it comes to identity politics, Canadian society, as I've served 2415 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,120 Speaker 2: and experienced it has historically been disingenuous and quick to 2416 01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:13,600 Speaker 2: pain over inherent iniquities. 2417 01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 3: It's to solutionalized racism and prejudices. 2418 01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,160 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a negative side of living socialist ideal, but 2419 01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,320 Speaker 2: we collectively like to think we're all right, and so 2420 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 2: the history of slavery in Canada or of residential schools 2421 01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,440 Speaker 2: is glossed over in favor of brave exploits of our 2422 01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 2: soldiers at Vimy Ridge. 2423 01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:34,839 Speaker 3: Okay, under the cover huh. 2424 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, and I believe this. Every country does this, Like. 2425 01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's a Canadian man under the 2426 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,680 Speaker 2: cover of free health care and lower costs of closed 2427 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:46,440 Speaker 2: secondary education. The reality of a deeply satisfied society festers 2428 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:53,839 Speaker 2: Canada is a deeply stratified I'm sorry stratified since society 2429 01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,000 Speaker 2: fasters Canada is very much a salad ball and unfortunately elitism, 2430 01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 2: nepotism and cronyism or the order of things vironment. In 2431 01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,640 Speaker 2: this environment, groups with strong collective identities can thrive. They 2432 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,160 Speaker 2: look out for themselves and our applauded and rewarded by 2433 01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,880 Speaker 2: the government and economics of it. 2434 01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,960 Speaker 3: So jag meat sing or lily seeing. 2435 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,480 Speaker 2: Like many members of South Asian and East Asia and 2436 01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,560 Speaker 2: certain European communities that do very well and generally better 2437 01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:19,800 Speaker 2: than black people in First Nations people for a range 2438 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,560 Speaker 2: of reasons I couldn't get into here. Rest easy in 2439 01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,640 Speaker 2: the knowledge that to the rest of the world, Canada 2440 01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,240 Speaker 2: is not known for racism and division among evolving lines 2441 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,720 Speaker 2: of privilege. Canada is all right and soreday. And that 2442 01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,600 Speaker 2: was probably more than two cents. Oh, nigga, that was 2443 01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,680 Speaker 2: a dollar fifty. Didn't realize I had so much on 2444 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 2: my chest. Thank you for getting through this email. If 2445 01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,040 Speaker 2: you did, I can't believe it either. And if you didn't, 2446 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,560 Speaker 2: thank you anyway. It was cathartic. Love your duets by 2447 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,360 Speaker 2: the way, Barbara. Yeah, see that's the thing y'all be 2448 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,080 Speaker 2: needing to get this off of y'all chest. We was good, 2449 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:55,160 Speaker 2: but I appreciate y'all feeling that connection that you wanted 2450 01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:58,160 Speaker 2: to you wanted to reach out to us and listening 2451 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,480 Speaker 2: to the show man. I'm so sorry I finished that 2452 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 2: last guy's email, but once it got the pimp in, 2453 01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:04,160 Speaker 2: it was too much. 2454 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:07,120 Speaker 3: Bro. It was I don't care that much about. 2455 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:08,640 Speaker 4: This appropriation turned to. 2456 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, all right, you gotta pimp the love out, 2457 01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:17,320 Speaker 2: pip slap the love like I'm good I'm good Domino's 2458 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,800 Speaker 2: delivery scam. Rebecca Wrights saying good morning, Rod and Karen. 2459 01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm especially enjoying today's episode. 2460 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:24,040 Speaker 3: Rod has some crying at work. 2461 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,120 Speaker 2: I just can't with this because it's beyond the pale 2462 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,000 Speaker 2: of egregious and it just reaffirms my destasion twelve years 2463 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,000 Speaker 2: ago to cut the cable cord. Besides, I don't even 2464 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,920 Speaker 2: think we have Domino's in Maine. If we did, delivery 2465 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:38,440 Speaker 2: is twenty minutes. In twenty minutes would be nothing but 2466 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,480 Speaker 2: insurance claims for cold pizza. The real reason I'm writing 2467 01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,600 Speaker 2: you is about Amber guy your centencing why I completely 2468 01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:46,960 Speaker 2: agree ten years is not enough for her hainus crime. 2469 01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,040 Speaker 3: I cannot help but wonder how different this verdict would 2470 01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:52,120 Speaker 3: have been had she been on duty. Yep, that's a 2471 01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:52,600 Speaker 3: good point. 2472 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,680 Speaker 2: But Mini brought this up on the right time or 2473 01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,680 Speaker 2: no that evening Jones, But this associally was an off 2474 01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,480 Speaker 2: duty shooting. She was acting in her role as a 2475 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,080 Speaker 2: private citizen. If she would have been on the clock, 2476 01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:07,360 Speaker 2: probably no time. Correct, she was off due to when 2477 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:09,000 Speaker 2: she shot that poor man in his home, and she 2478 01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,240 Speaker 2: was not giving in any special protections as a duty officer. 2479 01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,520 Speaker 2: Has given a situation. I understand that it's a win. 2480 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,280 Speaker 2: A win is a win, but this doesn't feel like 2481 01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,280 Speaker 2: a win for that reason. She was top tried as 2482 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,200 Speaker 2: a citizen and not an officer of the law. Even 2483 01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,160 Speaker 2: though the cold Blue tried their best to come and 2484 01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,360 Speaker 2: protect her, they just couldn't. Well, that's why it feels 2485 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:27,760 Speaker 2: like a win into a lot of us is because 2486 01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:30,920 Speaker 2: we saw them crank up the system of white woman 2487 01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 2: protection anyway, and what happened in real time, I watched 2488 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,160 Speaker 2: it happen. Niggas moved a gold post from she ain't 2489 01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:43,800 Speaker 2: gonna get no time to just ten years in record speed. 2490 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,920 Speaker 2: So now we were gonna be dissatisfied no matter what 2491 01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,440 Speaker 2: the outcome, of course, But I guess I just tried 2492 01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 2: to keep my same energy because I said I didn't 2493 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 2: think she was. 2494 01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,960 Speaker 3: Going to jail, So ten years to me is ten 2495 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 3: years long than I thought she was getting. Agreed, And 2496 01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm just being one hundred percent open to artists about that. 2497 01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,880 Speaker 3: Lot lot of people gonna lie to you and act 2498 01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 3: like they was always on some she gonna get life 2499 01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:05,240 Speaker 3: in prison. 2500 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 2: Them they weren't. They really weren't. And I think some 2501 01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,480 Speaker 2: of what you saw in that courtroom with them hugs 2502 01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:11,840 Speaker 2: and shit. 2503 01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 3: Was shocking surprise that a jury really did convict her 2504 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,400 Speaker 3: even though she was guilty. Like I think some of 2505 01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 3: them people in that court were as surprised as she was. 2506 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 3: She was going to jail anyway. 2507 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:26,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 2508 01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,800 Speaker 2: I think that for that reason, I too would like 2509 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:33,160 Speaker 2: police officers be held accountable. But I think the distinction 2510 01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:34,160 Speaker 2: is clear if your own duty. 2511 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,480 Speaker 3: There are laws protect officers in these situations that don't 2512 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 3: cover when you're off. It's a tragedy all the way around. 2513 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,720 Speaker 3: For sure. My heart goes out to that man's family. Anyway. 2514 01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,320 Speaker 2: That's my two cents for what it is worth. Thank 2515 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,280 Speaker 2: you for a great week of podcasting. Enjoy vacation too, 2516 01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 2: you got folks, Thank you, thank you. It was just 2517 01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:52,000 Speaker 2: a one day vacation basically, although you know October we 2518 01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,680 Speaker 2: will be taking like when them season tickets kick in. 2519 01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,240 Speaker 2: It's gonna be some days when not all. I believe 2520 01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,640 Speaker 2: this is Curtainia. I hope I'm pronounce correctly. Happy birthday 2521 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Rod and happy Pumpkin spice season. Thank you, dear Riding Caring, 2522 02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Happy belated birthday Rod, being a welcoming, insightful witty and 2523 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Patrick as you are all the best. 2524 02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Please, Oh, I don't know how to pronounce this. 2525 02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:18,840 Speaker 2: Come planos and we and qu say on Poco tar 2526 02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:27,200 Speaker 2: day wait hers, listen glucws not straglic joyou unniversary eating 2527 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:31,640 Speaker 2: the retard felix anniversary tarda from a fellow liver. 2528 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:33,600 Speaker 3: My birthday is on September twenty fourth. 2529 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,880 Speaker 2: All shout out Chieva cheap y'all, leap with y'all in 2530 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,760 Speaker 2: honor of your birthday season. For my birthday, drink from Starbucks. 2531 02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:43,560 Speaker 2: This year, I made sure to get a punkin spice 2532 02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,120 Speaker 2: litte guess what I had this morning? 2533 02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:46,520 Speaker 3: You know it already. 2534 02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,160 Speaker 2: I then stopped by Trader Jones it took a picture 2535 02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:52,800 Speaker 2: with the pumpkin themed items see attached photo. I would 2536 02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,560 Speaker 2: admit that I hid my love for pumpkin spice lattez 2537 02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:57,760 Speaker 2: because I was afraid to be call basic. However, as 2538 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm getting older, I realized that life is too short 2539 02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:02,040 Speaker 2: to keep hiding the things that I like in order 2540 02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 2: to fit in. Come on, so I will now walk 2541 02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:09,240 Speaker 2: around proudly with my PSL. And also I love I 2542 02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:11,200 Speaker 2: live closer to a Trader Joe's and have tried a 2543 02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:13,600 Speaker 2: couple of that punkin thing items. If you haven't already, 2544 02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,000 Speaker 2: I would recommend you try these punkin butternuts squashed bisk 2545 02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:21,760 Speaker 2: had it I think last year or no, maybe I've 2546 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,880 Speaker 2: had it at a restaurant, but anyway, I'll off you 2547 02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,320 Speaker 2: on the list. Pumpkin pot spikes, Ginger Bruce Sparkling beverage, 2548 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:30,280 Speaker 2: and pumpkin tortilla chips. 2549 02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:31,840 Speaker 3: Hey, I haven't heard that. 2550 02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Thank you caring and Ride for welcoming new fans like 2551 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,360 Speaker 2: myself those who came in on a the Vice News 2552 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,640 Speaker 2: segment for them thrones and catching me up to speed. 2553 02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for answering my questions about how you came up 2554 02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:44,320 Speaker 2: with the name of the show and also the young 2555 02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Turks and how they had beef with you over Bernie 2556 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Sands back at twenty sixteen. 2557 02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I really do appreciate it. Oh yeah, no problem. Congrats 2558 02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:53,280 Speaker 3: to Bernie being back on the trail after's heart attack. 2559 02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:56,120 Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people a heart attack. 2560 02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:56,880 Speaker 4: Initially they was. 2561 02:01:56,880 --> 02:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Like, no, he was a heart attack getting a lot 2562 02:01:58,920 --> 02:01:59,960 Speaker 3: of praise, so good for him. 2563 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Also, Rod, I would take your advice and having the 2564 02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,440 Speaker 2: guy paid for the date, especially if it's a bad one. 2565 02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:07,360 Speaker 2: You definitely had me dying when you dramaticized it, drama 2566 02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:10,440 Speaker 2: sized it. However, it kind of makes sense. Why am 2567 02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 2: I punishing myself for a bad day for paying for 2568 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 2: myself exactly? 2569 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, if things was reverse, like, that's the. 2570 02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:20,520 Speaker 2: Thing, all this shit was reversed, all this nobility dudes 2571 02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,520 Speaker 2: try to apply to dating, like where it's like, look, 2572 02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:25,960 Speaker 2: women need to do blank, blank and blank. Listen, if 2573 02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,760 Speaker 2: the shoe was on the other motherfucking foot, we would 2574 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,400 Speaker 2: be some savage ass gold digging niggas. And that's just 2575 02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:35,400 Speaker 2: the real of it. But we fucked up with patriarchy, 2576 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:35,760 Speaker 2: so then. 2577 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,160 Speaker 4: We can't fuck up with patriarchy. 2578 02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's us that made it so we can't be 2579 02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 3: that way. 2580 02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,240 Speaker 2: But man, me and Justin used to have long ass 2581 02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,520 Speaker 2: jokes about it on the pregame about like what it 2582 02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:47,400 Speaker 2: would be like if the men could get pregnant, how 2583 02:02:47,440 --> 02:02:49,960 Speaker 2: we would be trying to trap Come on, come on, man, 2584 02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:51,480 Speaker 2: like we are no. 2585 02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,960 Speaker 3: Women are no higher morally they than we have. 2586 02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Made them have to be to jump through hoops, and 2587 02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,360 Speaker 2: men are no higher a little morally then they have 2588 02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:04,280 Speaker 2: to be to try to like get the things they 2589 02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,000 Speaker 2: want out of life. It ain't like human beings is 2590 02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,440 Speaker 2: human beings were the ones rigged the game and now 2591 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,680 Speaker 2: we mad. But yes, I'd be damned if I was 2592 02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:15,400 Speaker 2: a woman, a straight woman, I guess, and men was 2593 02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,320 Speaker 2: asking me out, I'll be goddamned. 2594 02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,800 Speaker 3: I pay for a bad day for what? That's the backwards. 2595 02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:23,680 Speaker 3: Bring some money, just like that's how dangerous me and 2596 02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:24,200 Speaker 3: all we like. 2597 02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,160 Speaker 2: Bring some money because if this nigga realizes a bad day, 2598 02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:29,560 Speaker 2: he gonna be mad and take it out on you. 2599 02:03:29,680 --> 02:03:31,920 Speaker 2: If you say, well, you promised to pay for this, 2600 02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:33,600 Speaker 2: so now you gotta pay. 2601 02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,400 Speaker 3: For your own shit, that's such bullshit. Mm hm you 2602 02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:37,880 Speaker 3: pay for this shit, niggah. 2603 02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:39,760 Speaker 4: Then you have some women they like I don't give 2604 02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,880 Speaker 4: I'm paying for all my meals because I don't want 2605 02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:42,360 Speaker 4: you to thank you. 2606 02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,200 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like, 2607 02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:46,879 Speaker 2: that's that's bullshit. 2608 02:03:47,960 --> 02:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Like if I, like I had to miss scandal and 2609 02:03:50,120 --> 02:03:52,920 Speaker 3: you wasted my fucking time and now I'm out fifty 2610 02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:54,840 Speaker 3: dollars for a stake I could have been at home. 2611 02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah the fuck are you ruined my night? Sir? 2612 02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:02,040 Speaker 2: And any who love you too and have a great weekend, 2613 02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,200 Speaker 2: also send me positive vibes for whenever you two take 2614 02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:05,720 Speaker 2: you next week off creating the podcast. 2615 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be soon. I don't know when. 2616 02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:10,040 Speaker 2: But I thought this week and I thought about it. 2617 02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:12,960 Speaker 2: I took yesterday off. I woke up feeling great, so 2618 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:14,400 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe I just need a day off. 2619 02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:17,720 Speaker 2: So working for yourself, you get to decide, you two 2620 02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,200 Speaker 2: definitely give us all great and engage the content. You deserve, 2621 02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:25,520 Speaker 2: some real, some rest, relaxation and rejuvenation. Secilly Catania and 2622 02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:29,440 Speaker 2: quote the spirit, the will to win, the will to excel, 2623 02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:30,600 Speaker 2: all the things that endure. 2624 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:32,840 Speaker 3: These qualities are so much more important than the events 2625 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:37,800 Speaker 3: that occur. Vince Lombardi. Oh, I didn't even know the 2626 02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:41,760 Speaker 3: old football coach. All right, last one and guess what 2627 02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:42,240 Speaker 3: it's about? 2628 02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:43,960 Speaker 4: Canation? 2629 02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:44,560 Speaker 3: How'd you know? 2630 02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:45,400 Speaker 10: Uh? 2631 02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:49,240 Speaker 2: Handah, right then, I'm just assuming thanks for this great episode. 2632 02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:50,840 Speaker 2: If you don't read this email, it's okay. I know 2633 02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:51,520 Speaker 2: it's way too. 2634 02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:55,360 Speaker 3: Long, y'all. 2635 02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:56,840 Speaker 4: We laughing every time y'all said that. 2636 02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,480 Speaker 3: But y'all know that, y'all. It's like, you know, I 2637 02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:02,120 Speaker 3: can see it right, not just that, but you know 2638 02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:06,760 Speaker 3: that what you're doing, you know you know that you're 2639 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:10,040 Speaker 3: doing it. Yes, Yeah, This is why I don't talk 2640 02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,640 Speaker 3: about it. It's too much. All right, let's I'm gonna 2641 02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:14,200 Speaker 3: give you a shot. 2642 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:15,760 Speaker 4: Here we go, long as you don't go off to 2643 02:05:15,840 --> 02:05:17,320 Speaker 4: the hotel lane. 2644 02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's Karen's rule. Thanks for the great episode. 2645 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:23,520 Speaker 2: If you don't read this emails, okay, I know it's 2646 02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:25,480 Speaker 2: wait too long. If I want to give my five 2647 02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,240 Speaker 2: cents about of culture, it's something monolithic and easily defined. 2648 02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm white born, Oh girl, it's about to be real. 2649 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:35,560 Speaker 3: Hold on. I'm white born and currently living in Northern Europe. 2650 02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,000 Speaker 2: But from one years old to fifteen years old, I 2651 02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,920 Speaker 2: lived in four different countries with different languages, different cultures. 2652 02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:43,600 Speaker 2: Five of those years was in the Philippines. I also 2653 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,360 Speaker 2: went through puberty and the philal teams. My parents did 2654 02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:48,560 Speaker 2: speak their mother tongue at home, and I was eventually 2655 02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,720 Speaker 2: able to go to a university in my land of 2656 02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:54,160 Speaker 2: my birth, so I never lost all my roots. But 2657 02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,520 Speaker 2: culture is still something very complex for me, especially as 2658 02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:59,320 Speaker 2: a teenager. I try to fit in with my friends, 2659 02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:02,160 Speaker 2: and I think I truly did get brainwashed and some 2660 02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,320 Speaker 2: of the Filippino ways of thinking and seeing life. 2661 02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:06,440 Speaker 3: But my Filipino Auntie had. 2662 02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:08,280 Speaker 2: A real relationship with me, and she will always let 2663 02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:10,280 Speaker 2: me see the differences between my family's life and the 2664 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:13,280 Speaker 2: way of raising her kids. I could never be Rachel 2665 02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Doze out because I was taught very clearly that my 2666 02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:17,840 Speaker 2: color and birthplace and my past word always would make 2667 02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:21,280 Speaker 2: me separate from my friends and my Filipino quote unquote family. 2668 02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,040 Speaker 2: I had no idea what my culture is, but it's not. 2669 02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,760 Speaker 2: It is not Filipino or European. And because of the 2670 02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:30,800 Speaker 2: skin color, I will never become Philipino in any true sense. 2671 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,080 Speaker 2: But because of how I was raised, I will never 2672 02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,400 Speaker 2: be culturally purely European. I don't think what happened to 2673 02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:38,920 Speaker 2: me is appropriation because my Auntie truly did try and 2674 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,720 Speaker 2: teach and make me more acceptable to the for the 2675 02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,360 Speaker 2: world I lived in as a child whose parents were 2676 02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,360 Speaker 2: outsiders and could not help me survive being a teenager 2677 02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,480 Speaker 2: in a very foreign culture, foreign culture for my parents. 2678 02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,920 Speaker 2: So I have very mixed feelings about that movie about 2679 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,320 Speaker 2: a white Ethiopian Muslim. I think it was the Coda 2680 02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:58,920 Speaker 2: Fanning or something. I totally agree that stories from Africa 2681 02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:02,720 Speaker 2: should be from an actual African perspective. In Hollywood needs 2682 02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:05,600 Speaker 2: to make actual black movies about with actual black people. 2683 02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:08,000 Speaker 2: But I know from personal experiences there are some people 2684 02:07:08,040 --> 02:07:10,040 Speaker 2: whose skin colores not match the life and culture that 2685 02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:13,720 Speaker 2: people expect someone with that color to be. And will 2686 02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,720 Speaker 2: be the first to say that I absolutely had white 2687 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,280 Speaker 2: privilege and rich privilege and all kinds of perks growing up. 2688 02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,240 Speaker 2: So my life is nothing like my friends living in 2689 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,080 Speaker 2: poverty and that way, I will never truly know the 2690 02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,920 Speaker 2: experience of being Filipino and poor. But I do get 2691 02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:29,080 Speaker 2: very close to those about one million well to do 2692 02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:32,120 Speaker 2: Filipinos who have dual citizenship in the USA. 2693 02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:34,840 Speaker 3: But I've never been to the US. So on and 2694 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,480 Speaker 3: so forth. Just one last thing. 2695 02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,320 Speaker 2: The last time I went to a Filipino cookout here 2696 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:41,400 Speaker 2: in my current city. 2697 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:44,840 Speaker 3: Oh, they invite you to cookout? Well, shit, you good? Then, okay, 2698 02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:48,920 Speaker 3: look to the cookout. Now it's nothing I could say. Okay, 2699 02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:50,720 Speaker 3: they invite you to the actual cookout. 2700 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:51,880 Speaker 4: You got an imitation. 2701 02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:54,960 Speaker 2: Look that's the goal, all right, So you already kind 2702 02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,360 Speaker 2: of saggos, you already kind of won. As a white person. 2703 02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't really get better than being invited to the cookout. 2704 02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:06,680 Speaker 2: I know, because yeah, it's apparently really hard. There's a 2705 02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:10,240 Speaker 2: but yeah, my currency. There was a new person there 2706 02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:11,920 Speaker 2: and we talked about family for a hour and then 2707 02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:14,440 Speaker 2: she said, so nice talking to you. It's like going home. 2708 02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:17,080 Speaker 2: So my mixed weird cultural hybrid is not just in 2709 02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 2: my head. Actual living people sometimes knows it too. I 2710 02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:24,240 Speaker 2: love the shell, sorry for the ramblint love Honah. Yeah, 2711 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:27,960 Speaker 2: I look, man, I'm gonna tell you true. 2712 02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 3: Okay. I don't know what to do with that ship. 2713 02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,680 Speaker 2: H Like, you live in your your life and that's 2714 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:37,920 Speaker 2: the life you was given. Man Like, it's only on 2715 02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,120 Speaker 2: the internet where it turns so black and white, and uh, 2716 02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:44,520 Speaker 2: there's been there's never been a cool white person. That's 2717 02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,840 Speaker 2: never been a bad black person. Like that's some internet ship, 2718 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:50,680 Speaker 2: man Like, continue to live your life like you live 2719 02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,960 Speaker 2: in and own the offline and you'll you should be fine. 2720 02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:56,560 Speaker 2: Like you don't seem like you're trying to perpetrate from 2721 02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,160 Speaker 2: what you wrote, and you don't seem like there's we 2722 02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:02,280 Speaker 2: know the white people that pull the like you know, 2723 02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:05,560 Speaker 2: the Dollar's allergy brought up where it's like I'm basically 2724 02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:09,040 Speaker 2: black because I was I lived here, or my friends 2725 02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:12,480 Speaker 2: are all this or whatever, but there's some cultural exchange, 2726 02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:14,440 Speaker 2: and I think what happens a lot of times is 2727 02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,760 Speaker 2: people are getting so less. 2728 02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Cool about it. It used to be a fucking thing. 2729 02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:25,360 Speaker 3: I don't even know when we had to stop. You know, 2730 02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:27,160 Speaker 3: I think it's just an internet thing. It can't be 2731 02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:29,720 Speaker 3: real life because like it's not on the internet. It's like, 2732 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,200 Speaker 3: motherfuckers be mad when they see like white people dancing 2733 02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:35,200 Speaker 3: too good right or they can dare you have rhythm? 2734 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:36,160 Speaker 4: It can stay on beat? 2735 02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:39,760 Speaker 3: Like they see a twerk team, a torque class full 2736 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:43,280 Speaker 3: of white women being taught normally by a black woman 2737 02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:46,640 Speaker 3: who's making that money, and be mad, And I'll be like, 2738 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:47,720 Speaker 3: who gives a fuck? 2739 02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:50,880 Speaker 2: Like that's like if them motherfucker's gonna learn how to 2740 02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:54,680 Speaker 2: badly twork and paying how much money an hour? And 2741 02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:56,880 Speaker 2: some black women's getting paid off of that shit? Good, 2742 02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,920 Speaker 2: get to that bag, teach them, start rap classes, teach 2743 02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,040 Speaker 2: all that, get paid for it. They taking it anyway, 2744 02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:06,320 Speaker 2: get paid. It's better than a YouTube tutorial. Okay, I'm 2745 02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:07,040 Speaker 2: telling you right now. 2746 02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:09,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't even like I still when I 2747 02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:11,320 Speaker 3: see white people doing some black shit real good, I'd 2748 02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:14,040 Speaker 3: be like, ooh, like it's a little extra something to it, 2749 02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:15,880 Speaker 3: because I'd be like, m how did know who taught 2750 02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,560 Speaker 3: him that? Like the act, the fact that we're trying 2751 02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:20,640 Speaker 3: to act like it's not real. It's so such an 2752 02:10:20,680 --> 02:10:23,520 Speaker 3: internet thing, man, Like we see a white dude to 2753 02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,840 Speaker 3: play basketball real good, like white Dante play for the bucks, 2754 02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:29,840 Speaker 3: I believe, like that's a whole thing for us. It's funny. 2755 02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:31,840 Speaker 3: It's like, yo, look how he tak Look how he dress, 2756 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,520 Speaker 3: look how he like. Like this white dude was like 2757 02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,800 Speaker 3: clearly raised around a lot of black culture and shit, and. 2758 02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:42,240 Speaker 4: That's okay, yeah, you know, it used to be a 2759 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:42,960 Speaker 4: thing you could be. 2760 02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Like cool, you know and low key. We never really 2761 02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:48,240 Speaker 2: stopped doing it with black people. We just call it 2762 02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:51,240 Speaker 2: something different. But every time we throw around one of them, 2763 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,600 Speaker 2: fucking like look at this black person that graduated with 2764 02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:57,960 Speaker 2: seventeen degrees, Like we're still kind of celebrating, like we 2765 02:10:58,120 --> 02:10:59,960 Speaker 2: know that, like that tipe. 2766 02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,280 Speaker 3: But education system is mostly a white thing. 2767 02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:05,400 Speaker 2: And when we look at someone that makes certain achievements 2768 02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:09,280 Speaker 2: like in corporate America or you know, monetarily, a lot 2769 02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:13,520 Speaker 2: of times we're also low key celebrating white like their 2770 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:16,880 Speaker 2: ingratiation and ability to navigate white supremacy. 2771 02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,360 Speaker 3: So well, it's a big complex. 2772 02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:22,280 Speaker 4: Mess, man, you know, and it's not couldn't dry. 2773 02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, oh man, y'all know who white Dante is. 2774 02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,920 Speaker 2: Kkn Yeah, don't just look up white Dante. Look up 2775 02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:31,560 Speaker 2: at his YouTube and his interviews for post game. That's 2776 02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,320 Speaker 2: what the that's what the fun is. 2777 02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:35,920 Speaker 4: Should we played, I think we played on the balls deep. 2778 02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:39,920 Speaker 3: Probably, But that motherfucker talk black. That's another thing. 2779 02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,360 Speaker 2: People, there's no such thing as talking black. Yes the 2780 02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,240 Speaker 2: fuck there is, and you all know it. And there's 2781 02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:48,520 Speaker 2: a thing that's talking white too. It's okay, doesn't make 2782 02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:51,600 Speaker 2: you white, doesn't make them black. But if you think 2783 02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:54,760 Speaker 2: that's not a thing, you are lying to yourself. We 2784 02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:56,640 Speaker 2: all been on the phone with somebody and been like, 2785 02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:01,640 Speaker 2: that's a nigga, Like I don't know why we got 2786 02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:04,280 Speaker 2: to sport basketball. 2787 02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:07,800 Speaker 3: NBA can let me, I can look up his last name. 2788 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:10,520 Speaker 10: Oh but. 2789 02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:15,520 Speaker 3: He's a he's like a shooting guard. 2790 02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:19,080 Speaker 2: He was just came out of college. Dante de Vincenzio. 2791 02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Uh is DiVincenzo, I think is how you pronounce it. 2792 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:27,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, he's a white dude. He got a fade. 2793 02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:33,120 Speaker 3: He talking to them interviews like, you know, I was 2794 02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:34,720 Speaker 3: just trying to, you know, get open, you know, what 2795 02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:37,360 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, it's good. It used to be a 2796 02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:37,720 Speaker 3: time we. 2797 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:39,520 Speaker 2: Were laughing day it was like, oh that's a dope. 2798 02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Look at this white dude. You sound black, And now 2799 02:12:42,200 --> 02:12:45,600 Speaker 2: it's like cultural appropriation. Let me, I wrote seventeen paragraphs. 2800 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:45,840 Speaker 3: You know. 2801 02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:47,920 Speaker 4: Sometimes that's just how they were raised. 2802 02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like whatever, Like we always had this idea that 2803 02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,320 Speaker 2: like the cop show up and Dante started being like officer. 2804 02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:57,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on. First of all, 2805 02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:01,080 Speaker 3: my teammates are black, and I was scared, you know, 2806 02:13:01,360 --> 02:13:03,920 Speaker 3: so I don't know. All right, that's it for today. Man, 2807 02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:05,400 Speaker 3: Thank y'all for listening. It was a long one. 2808 02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:08,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you guys later. We appreciate y'all. Shout 2809 02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:13,080 Speaker 2: Adale Covid who wondered where my our feedback show was 2810 02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:15,040 Speaker 2: because I saw the Joker and he thought that I 2811 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,720 Speaker 2: it inspired me to quit doing the show. But no, 2812 02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:21,680 Speaker 2: we were just supporting Amanda Seals, a black woman, something 2813 02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:22,720 Speaker 2: you wouldn't know nothing about. 2814 02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:26,000 Speaker 3: All Right, until next time, Love you, Yeah,