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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Buck still on the French Riviera as he will be

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Speaker 1: all week. I am in Washington, d C. And I

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Speaker 1: will be with you solo all week long. Appreciate all of.

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Speaker 2: You hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We have got a lot to discuss, in particular the

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Speaker 1: decision that now looms for President Trump as he has

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Speaker 1: to decide what involvement, if any, should the United States

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Speaker 1: undertake to help Israel when it comes to taking away

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Speaker 1: the nuclear weapon option once and for all from Iran.

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Speaker 1: The President just put up this message, we now have

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Speaker 1: complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran

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Speaker 1: had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty

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Speaker 1: of it, but it doesn't compare to American made, conceived

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Speaker 1: and manufactured stuff. Nobody does it better. Keyword there to me,

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Speaker 1: we now have complete and total control of the skies

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Speaker 1: over Iran, suggesting that the United States is consulting with

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Speaker 1: Iran at least enough for the Royal we to be

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Speaker 1: used there in some context, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: different stories out there. I would say Russia withdrawing support

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Speaker 1: for the Islamic Republic is pretty significant. And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to open up phone lines and let you guys way

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Speaker 1: in because you may disagree with the take that I'm

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Speaker 1: about to give you. Let me also let you know

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Speaker 1: we got some great guests coming your way. Couple of

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Speaker 1: Senators Ted Cruz at the bottom of this hour from Texas,

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Speaker 1: at the top of the third hour, two pm eastern,

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Speaker 1: Senator Rampaul of Kentucky. And then in studio with me

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. At two thirty eastern, the

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Speaker 1: Chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some interesting conversations with those guests. But right off the top,

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Speaker 1: President Trump has a very important decision to make, according

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Speaker 1: to reports out and I will play audio of I

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Speaker 1: will play audio of this discussion. But we do not

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Speaker 1: have meaning, we do not have the ability to stay

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Speaker 1: completely out of that this conflict if we want to

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Speaker 1: eliminate Iran's ability to have nuclear weapons going forward. In particular,

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Speaker 1: Iran has buried much of their nuclear material deep inside

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Speaker 1: of a mountain, and in order to reach that location,

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Speaker 1: we need to use United States bunker busting bombs that

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Speaker 1: would require us to get involved. Let me play this

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Speaker 1: from CNN Caitlin Collins explaining exactly what would be necessary

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Speaker 1: in order to once and for all destroy Iran's nuclear

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Speaker 3: Cut seven tonight the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Azania, who

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Speaker 3: says strikes in Iran have set its nuclear program back,

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Speaker 3: and I'm quoting him now a very long time, but

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Speaker 3: based on CNN analysis of one of the secretive Iranian

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Speaker 3: nuclear facilities, eliminating the program altogether could prove incredibly difficult

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Speaker 3: without more time, larger bombs, and assistance from the United States.

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Speaker 3: The Ford out Plant, the nuclear plant has been a

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Speaker 3: key target of Israel's over the last several days, and

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Speaker 3: we have new satellite images that show just how hard

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Speaker 3: it could be to take out and why. If you

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Speaker 3: look at this, you see there's a security perimeter protecting

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Speaker 3: and it's believed that hundreds of centrifuges places nearly three

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Speaker 3: that could be ultimately used for nuclear bombs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that is the background on why we may

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Speaker 1: have the ability to do something that Israel does not

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the technology and power of our

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to have to make is should we

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Speaker 2: Able to get nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: Secondarily, should we okay or nod in some way assent

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Speaker 1: towards Israel's desire to take out the Ayatola Kamini and

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Speaker 1: once and for all remove the Ayatolas from leadership of Iran,

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Speaker 1: which they have had since the nineteen seventy nine revolution.

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Speaker 1: Here is Benjamin Yahoo cut twelve talking about assassinating the Ayatola.

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Speaker 4: US officials tell us that the president flatly rejected a plan,

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Speaker 4: an opportunity that you that the Israelis had to take

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Speaker 2: Do you understand his concern?

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Speaker 4: My understanding his concern is that this would escalate the

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Speaker 2: It's not going to escalate the conflict. It's going to

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Speaker 5: We've had half a century of conflict spread by this

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Speaker 5: spreading terrorism and subversion and sabotage everywhere. That's the forever war,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the double question that Trump has to answer

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Speaker 1: as we sit here today is should we give assistance

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Speaker 1: in the way basically of these bunker busting bombs that

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Speaker 1: This is split very reasonable, very rational people on both

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Speaker 1: a long piece saying that I'll read to you at

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Speaker 1: some point, but essentially saying President Trump should be trusted

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Speaker 1: to make this decision, and that Trump has been consistent

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Speaker 1: that Iran can never get a nuclear weapon and anything

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Speaker 1: that he does related to that will be in his

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Speaker 2: Here's my answer.

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Speaker 1: I think we should once and for all wipe out

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Speaker 1: Iran's ability to have nuclear weapons. I think that if

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Speaker 1: that capability, I think we should do it. Second, I

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Speaker 1: think the Ayatollahs have to go. Now those may be

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Speaker 1: controversial opinions. Some of you may disagree eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: your calls to agree or disagree. You can also talk back.

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Speaker 1: We know, and let me lay out why I believe

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Speaker 1: this is necessary. Every time that we have negotiated with Iran,

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Speaker 1: Iranians have been unwilling to accede to the agreements. They

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Speaker 1: always cheat, they always try to get nuclear weapons. I

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Speaker 1: don't blame them because the eyeola see nuclear weapons in

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Speaker 1: which is, once they have them, the danger of trying

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Speaker 1: and then you stop. Iran is right now on the

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Speaker 1: using my antibiotics example, if you start to take antibiotics

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Speaker 1: why presidents age so much when they're in office, because

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Speaker 1: making tough calls is the ultimate job, and there are

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Speaker 1: good people arguing on both sides of this issue from

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Speaker 1: a variety of different perspectives. I think reasoned, articulate, logical

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Speaker 1: cases can be made for either decision. To me, if

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Speaker 1: and for all. Now, some of you out there are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: this sounds too similar to Iraq, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: similar to Afghanistan. So what would later happen in Afghanistan?

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Speaker 1: trying to pick who the leaders of Iran are going

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Speaker 1: Jewel of Middle Eastern economy. They have fallen behind. Saudi

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Speaker 1: He's focusing on economic opportunity. That doesn't mean there's something

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Speaker 1: building them. The Middle Eastern countries, by and large, Saudi

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Speaker 1: If we make this decision, it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: to me, this is a hard decision. But presidents are

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Speaker 1: of Iran. I think that what replaced them, while potentially uncertain,

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Speaker 1: what is there now. America first does not mean America alone.

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Speaker 1: We have to make rational decisions in the larger world

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Speaker 1: That is Jade Vance, Greg Import, Saint Luci Florida. What

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Speaker 9: Well, I think it's the essential that we don't underestimate

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Speaker 1: That's my concern for people out there who say, Okay,

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Speaker 10: To be to be honest, Clay, I don't think it's

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Speaker 10: So right now, Israel is conducting the military strikes. The

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Speaker 10: should be willing to provide those bunker busters because FORDAU

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Speaker 10: was designed to help Iran that's where they're conducting their

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Speaker 10: most sensitive nuclear research. And it was designed to help

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Speaker 10: them get a nuclear weapon, which which they intend I

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Speaker 10: believe UH to be able to use. And and the

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Speaker 10: Iotola chance death to America and death to Israel, and

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Speaker 10: I believe him, and and so I think it is

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Speaker 10: it is very worthwhile UH to to do what is

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Speaker 10: necessary to prevent them from having a nuclear weapon that

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Speaker 10: that could help them make death to America and death

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Speaker 10: to to to Israel much more of a reality, and

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Speaker 10: and and be used to commit UH murder on on

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Speaker 10: a massive scale. Now on the second question about regime change,

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Speaker 10: in my view, the world would be much better if

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Speaker 10: the Iotolas were no longer in charge of Iran. I

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Speaker 10: think the the Iotola is a theocratic zealot.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 10: He refers to Israel as the little say, he refers

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Speaker 10: to America as the great Satan. And unquestionably Iran would

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Speaker 10: be better, Israel would be better, America would be better

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Speaker 10: if the Iotola were not in charge. I don't think

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Speaker 10: that means we should invade Iran and try to topple

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Speaker 10: the Iotola, but I think we should use every tool

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Speaker 10: we have, in particular economic sanctions and pressure and indeed,

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Speaker 10: this military campaign directed at stopping the nuclear program I

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Speaker 10: think is weakening the regime as well, and so we

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Speaker 10: should certainly cheer if the Iyatola, if the regime falls,

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Speaker 10: but whether it does or not, the objective of Israel's

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Speaker 10: attack here is not regime change, but it is to

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Speaker 10: stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: If Natyahu asked for the ability to kill the Ayatola,

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Speaker 1: should Trump, in your mind give that nod, even if

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Speaker 1: we're not directly involved.

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Speaker 10: You know, Look, that's a difficult question. I talked about

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Speaker 10: it on the latest episode of my podcast Verdict with

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Speaker 10: Ted Cruz, and when we talked about it at some length.

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Speaker 10: There has been reporting. I don't know if this is accurate.

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Speaker 10: I don't know independently, but I've read the newspaper stories

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Speaker 10: that say the net and yah who wanted to target

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Speaker 10: the Iyatola, and the Trump White House asked them not to.

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Speaker 10: I don't have a reason to doubt or dispute that

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Speaker 10: that that reporting, And listen, I think it's a close call.

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Speaker 10: Generally in warfare, nations refrained from targeting heads of state.

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Speaker 10: It's also complicated by the Ayahtola being simultaneously a religious figure,

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Speaker 10: and taking out a religious figure that there are real

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Speaker 10: risks of that, there are risks of making him a martyr,

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Speaker 10: and and and inflaming things further.

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Speaker 11: So I think it is a.

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Speaker 10: Reasonable decision to say, rather than targeting the Iyatola himself,

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Speaker 10: who's a you know, an old man, that what they're

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Speaker 10: doing in Israel is doing it with amazing precision. Is

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Speaker 10: they're taking out the senior military leadership. They're taking out

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Speaker 10: take out the head of the IRGC and the chief

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Speaker 10: of staff and in fact then the next chief of staff.

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Speaker 10: They keep taking out the senior leadership of the military

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Speaker 10: that is number one in charge of waging.

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Speaker 11: The terror war.

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Speaker 10: Iran provides ninety percent of the funding to Hamas and

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Speaker 10: ninety percent of the funding to Hesbelah. And they're taking

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Speaker 10: out the senior leadership that are directing the missile strikes

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Speaker 10: on Israel, that are directing the nuclear program. They're also

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Speaker 10: taking out the nuclear scientists. I think it makes sense

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Speaker 10: for the attacks to be directed at removing their ability

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Speaker 10: to wage war against Israel into wage war against America.

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Speaker 10: I will tell you also, it is a dangerous time.

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Speaker 10: It's a dangerous time for the people of Israel. I

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Speaker 10: spoke with a friend of mine on Sunday whose mom

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Speaker 10: is in Jerusalem, and he said, his mom, like, nobody's

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Speaker 10: able to sleep because they wake up at two and

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Speaker 10: three in the morning every night with with air rate

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Speaker 10: sirens going on, and they have to rush to the

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Speaker 10: bomb shelter. So, I mean, it is intense when a

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Speaker 10: civilian population is facing constant missile strikes and there have

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Speaker 10: been significant fatalities, and there may be substantially more so

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Speaker 10: the people of Israel in harm's way, but Clay also

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Speaker 10: our servicemen and women. We have a large number of

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Speaker 10: servicemen and women that are in the Middle East, and

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Speaker 10: I think it is exceptionally important. I spoke with President

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Speaker 10: Trump on Sunday and I called him just to say

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Speaker 10: that I thought he was doing exceptionally well and standing

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Speaker 10: with Israel and his leadership was really important. And I said,

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Speaker 10: in particular, thank you for making unequivocally clear to Iran

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Speaker 10: that if they attack and kill US servicemen and women,

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Speaker 10: that they will face very significant retaliation from the United States.

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Speaker 10: I think that is protecting the lives of our servicemen

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Speaker 10: and women, and that is what a strong commander in

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Speaker 10: chief does.

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Speaker 11: That's what what Trump is doing.

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Speaker 1: Senator Ted Cruz, we appreciate the time, know how busy

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Speaker 1: you are. Thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 10: Thanks my friend, God bless We'll continue.

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Speaker 2: Take your calls.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.

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Speaker 1: We're about to be joined by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I am in Washington, d C. Buck is on the

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Speaker 1: French Riviera for the Big Can Advertising Conference. A lot

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Speaker 2: Over there, Sinner Ram Paul with us.

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Speaker 1: Now, we're following a lot of different stories ongoing uncertainty

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Speaker 1: about exactly what the United States actions and responses will

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Speaker 1: be as it pertains to Iran. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: with Senator Ran Paul right now, also continued fallout of

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Speaker 1: the Big Beautiful Bill and where that is headed. But

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Speaker 1: let's start with the number one question that is out

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Speaker 1: there right now, Senator ram Paul. What if President Trump

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Speaker 1: called you and he said, hey, what do you think

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Speaker 1: I should do about the situation in Iran?

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Speaker 2: Your response would be, what.

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 8: The President's had good instincts traditionally on this, and his

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Speaker 8: instincts have been for restraint, for thinking things through, and

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Speaker 8: hopefully for not getting US involved in this war. I

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Speaker 8: think it would be a bad idea for us to

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Speaker 8: be involved directly in the war. I think the chance

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Speaker 8: of negotiation pretty much goes out the window with the

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Speaker 8: first US bombs dropping. Even as it is, we're so

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Speaker 8: closely linked with Israel. I think that it's on depicted

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Speaker 8: as a joint action now, but I think it is

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Speaker 8: a step for the worse if we actually are involved

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Speaker 8: actively with bombing. The other thing in our country is

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Speaker 8: we have this thing called the Constitution that says you

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Speaker 8: can't go to war with countries without permission. So if

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Speaker 8: he did decide, and he told me he's absolutely made

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Speaker 8: the decision, I would recommend to him that he has

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Speaker 8: to come before Congress ask us for permission, and we'll

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Speaker 8: have a vote the same night on whether or not

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Speaker 8: to go to warm.

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Speaker 1: Do you yourself, are you concerned about the idea of

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Speaker 1: Iran having nuclear weapons?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's a threat to the United States?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think potentially, I think that it's

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Speaker 8: more a threat to their regional neighbors. But I would

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Speaker 8: say that I don't want them to have nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody does. But the question about every

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Speaker 8: activity is does it make it more or less likely?

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Speaker 8: So I think you can argue both sides of does

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Speaker 8: Israel's bombing make it more or less likely that to

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Speaker 8: get a nuclear weapon? You can say, well, they're destroying

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Speaker 8: their capability, or you could say that this is the

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Speaker 8: last straw from Oram's point of view, and Iran will

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Speaker 8: simply rush headlong into developing a weapon. They may well

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Speaker 8: have stockpiles of highly enricheranium we don't know about, and

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Speaker 8: once you have it, you can really hide a cupful

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Speaker 8: of highly enricheranium anywhere, and probably one couple is probably

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Speaker 8: enough for a decent sized bomb, and so they have

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Speaker 8: the ability to enrich I don't think the bombing gets

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Speaker 8: rid of their knowledge of nuclear power, even though they

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Speaker 8: killed many different scientists. I hope they don't go this direction.

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Speaker 8: But there's always a question. Will they passively come back

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Speaker 8: and you know, hang their head and say we're sorry,

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Speaker 8: we want to negotiate, or will they you know, have

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Speaker 8: this sense of nationalism, rally around their flag, put aside

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Speaker 8: their differences and really unify the sense of trying to

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Speaker 8: you know, come at an attack.

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Speaker 1: I presume that since you wouldn't like to see United States,

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Speaker 1: you know, bunker busting bombs used, I think that would

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Speaker 1: be your position based on the answer so far, that

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Speaker 1: you also would want to have no US involvement in

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Speaker 1: any potential regime change of relating to the Ayatolas or

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Speaker 1: anything else. Your general proposition would be that we should

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Speaker 1: not get involved.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, we tried that. You know, we tried

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Speaker 8: it in Afghanistan and for twenty years, and Afghanistan was

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Speaker 8: a very very tiny backwards country, no wealth and very

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Speaker 8: few people compared to Iran, and we weren't very successful

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Speaker 8: even in that backwater of trying to get you know,

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Speaker 8: a stable government, and the Taliban ended up waalting in

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Speaker 8: and you know, a matter of days taking over that government.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know that we're very good at nation building,

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Speaker 8: nor do I think that's really what we should be doing.

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Speaker 8: So no, I'm not involved with it. Do I wish

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Speaker 8: they're people? Well, yeah, I would love to see their

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Speaker 8: people get rid of their government. Nobody wants to see

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Speaker 8: their people oppressed. You know, the women that have been

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Speaker 8: you know, snatched up off the street, eaton, and who

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Speaker 8: knows else, you know, simply for not wearing a face covering.

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Speaker 8: And you know, the young people of Iran are said

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Speaker 8: to be very pro western, very much more open than

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Speaker 8: where the Mullas are as far as you know, culture,

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Speaker 8: and it is sad to see what's happening. But you know,

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Speaker 8: our job really isn't to send armies everywhere and to

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Speaker 8: send our soldiers and that's the way people need to

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Speaker 8: think of this. Are you ready to send your son

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Speaker 8: or daughter, you know, to march in a trench and

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Speaker 8: you know, trench to trench in Iran? And it really

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Speaker 8: is not a word that we should be involved with.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's shift from Iran right now to what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the so called big beautiful bill. Last

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Speaker 1: week we had Senator Ron Johnson in. I think you

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Speaker 1: and he share a lot of the same ideas on

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Speaker 1: this bill not cutting spending enough. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: things have changed since the last week. What would you

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Speaker 1: tell us? What should we know about the current status

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Speaker 1: of the bill as you see it?

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of the bills cuts, which I'm for,

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Speaker 8: making the tax cuts permanent, which I'm for. I voted

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Speaker 8: for these tax cuts in twenty seventeen, most of them.

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Speaker 8: I think they were largely responsible for the economic growth

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Speaker 8: and prosperity in the first Trump administration with low historic unemployment.

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Speaker 8: We were doing great until you know, they shut the

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Speaker 8: government down, shut the world down for the pandemic. But

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Speaker 8: I'm for all of that. The spending cuts, I agree

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Speaker 8: with Ron Johnson. They're weak, their anemic, and they will

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Speaker 8: not materially affect our accumulation of debt. And this is

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Speaker 8: the thing people need to understand. Our deficit decision is

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Speaker 8: going to be two point two trillion if you believe

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Speaker 8: the numbers of the bill, which really probably are not

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Speaker 8: accurate in the first year or two, but that we're

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Speaker 8: going to cut spending one hundred and fifty billion. That

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Speaker 8: means instead of a two point two trillion, you'd have

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Speaker 8: a two point zero five trillion. So it's really not

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Speaker 8: materially changing the accumulation of debt, and probably in the

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Speaker 8: first couple of years the debt will grow because you

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Speaker 8: when you reduce tax rates, you do usually get less

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Speaker 8: revenue in the beginning. Now you tend to get economic

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Speaker 8: growth and grow out of it, but for a year

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Speaker 8: or two that revenue will go down. They also have

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Speaker 8: some fake pay fors in there. They have a pay

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Speaker 8: for that says we're getting rid of the Biden forgiveness

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Speaker 8: of student loans. Well, the course ruled that illegal and

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Speaker 8: it never went into action. So they're going to get

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Speaker 8: rid of something that isn't currently happening. And only in

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Speaker 8: Washington do you call that a cut when you get

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Speaker 8: rid of something that actually isn't occurring. But some of

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Speaker 8: these things aren't real. Some of the real findings, like

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Speaker 8: putting work requirements on Medicaid, don't start occurring until after

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Speaker 8: the election in twenty twenty six. So I think in

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Speaker 8: the first couple of years, the deficit does get worse.

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Speaker 8: But my biggest complaint really though, is the debt ceiling.

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Speaker 8: Raising the debt ceiling five trillion when Congress I think

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Speaker 8: is terrible with money. They're irresponsible. We've accumulated thirty six

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Speaker 8: dollars debt. They show no signs of wisening up and

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Speaker 8: actually spending cuts. So I think to raise the dead

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Speaker 8: ceiling five trillion is giving irresponsibility to irresponsible people too

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Speaker 8: much credit. So I'd give them three months and in

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Speaker 8: three months it's going to be the end of the

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Speaker 8: fiscal year. You realize in three months they're going to

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Speaker 8: be coming back with a big, beautiful omnibus, and so

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Speaker 8: that's going to be we'll face that in September. And

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Speaker 8: so if they're going to keep spending money the same

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Speaker 8: way they have, I would say, you get very little

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Speaker 8: installments of debt ceiling. We vote on it every three

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Speaker 8: months until we see if we can trust you with money.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the timeframe is? You just laid

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Speaker 1: out the debt ceiling. President Trump has said he'd like

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Speaker 1: to have this done by July fourth. Ron Johnson said

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Speaker 1: he didn't think that was very likely. When do you

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Speaker 1: think the Senate might be able to vote on this bill.

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Speaker 1: What does your horizon look like in that respect, It.

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Speaker 8: All depends on how many people are have courage. Four

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Speaker 8: principal conservatives with courage could make this into a conservative bill.

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Speaker 8: All would take would be four of us to say

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Speaker 8: that we don't want the debt ceiling on there and

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Speaker 8: we're not voting for five trillion a debt, and they

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Speaker 8: would have to change it. Right now, I think it's

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Speaker 8: me and possibly Ron Johnson, and then there may be

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Speaker 8: one or two others out there. But I really haven't

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Speaker 8: heard a lot that indicates to me that there are

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Speaker 8: people you have to say you're going to be a no.

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Speaker 8: You have to be steadfast and loud, and you have

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Speaker 8: to tell them why, and you have to tell them

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Speaker 8: what it takes to get to yes. And that's why,

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Speaker 8: despite getting some critic from some of the attack dogs

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Speaker 8: at the White House, I've been very clear to the President.

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Speaker 8: I like a lot of the bill. I like him personally,

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Speaker 8: I support him and I'll support the bill, but they

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Speaker 8: have to separate out the debt ceiling. They don't want

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Speaker 8: to do that, but they will do it if I'm

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Speaker 8: a deciding vote That's what I also told my supporters

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Speaker 8: that I can't believe you will vote forever the tax reduction.

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Speaker 8: I said I will. I'm for it, and if I'm

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Speaker 8: the deciding vote, I promise you I'll vote for it.

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Speaker 8: But if I'm the deciding vote, they're going to have

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Speaker 8: to negotiate, and they will, because that's why it works.

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Speaker 8: The only reason they're not negotiating with me over the

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Speaker 8: dead ceiling now is we don't have the four votes

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Speaker 8: to oppose him. If we had the four votes, we'd

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Speaker 8: have already separated ill at the dead ceiling, and I

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Speaker 8: would be a yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, how frustrated you just mentioned it a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Do you think the president is with you.

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Speaker 8: A little bit? You know, I've known him for quite

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Speaker 8: a while, and.

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Speaker 1: But is your relationship with the president, sorry to cut

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Speaker 1: you off a little bit, is your relationship with the

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Speaker 1: president a little bit of a roller coaster? Because sometimes

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Speaker 1: it seems like you guys are thickest thieves, and then

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Speaker 1: other times it's like you're you're kind of at each

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Speaker 1: other a little bit. Do you feel like a little

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Speaker 1: bit over the decade that you've been a roller coaster

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Speaker 1: with the president.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of funny because I personally like him, played

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Speaker 8: golf with him a dozen times. I played golf with

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Speaker 8: him before he was president, probably twenty thirteen twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 8: I asked him to support some of my mission trips

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Speaker 8: when I did surgery in Guatemala and I believe it

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Speaker 8: was twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, and then at Haiti.

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Speaker 8: He supported both trips, and so I've gotten to know

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Speaker 8: him over time and actually enjoy his company. I was

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Speaker 8: probably one of his biggest defenders on the impeachment, but

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Speaker 8: you know, there is a mercurial nature to it though that.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think those were very important things that

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Speaker 8: defense on that. I think this bill is just a

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Speaker 8: policy difference, and I'm not changing anything. I'm poor. I've

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Speaker 8: always been against raising massive raises of the dead ceiling,

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Speaker 8: whether it's Biden or anybody else. But I think some

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Speaker 8: of his attack dogs at the at the White House

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Speaker 8: simply you know, it's it's my way to the highway

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Speaker 8: kind of stuff. But the last time I talked to him,

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Speaker 8: we had a good conversation was after the big beautiful parade,

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Speaker 8: and he was in good spirits, and you know, I

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Speaker 8: reiterated what it would take and that my goal is

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Speaker 8: not to defeat the bill. My goal is to you know,

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Speaker 8: present a conservative bill that I can be happy to support.

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Speaker 8: And a lot of the bill I like, all you

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Speaker 8: got to do is separate off the dead ceiling or

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Speaker 8: shorten it and they could well get my vote. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: the relationships up and down. But I think a lot

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Speaker 8: of you know, respect on my part.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Senator Rampaul. Last question for you. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know, looking ahead to twenty twenty eight is a

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Speaker 1: ways away. We still have to get past the midterms.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of talk about Andy Basheer in

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Speaker 1: your state running for president. He was one of the

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Speaker 1: worst governors in America, certainly the worst governor I would say,

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Speaker 1: of a red state during COVID. Is it kind of

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Speaker 1: staggering to you that he would be a national political

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Speaker 1: figure based on what you have seen of his leadership

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Speaker 1: in Kentucky.

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Speaker 8: I've yet to see that he'll be any kind of

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Speaker 8: national figure.

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Speaker 11: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I think he lacks the you know, charisma, but he

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Speaker 8: also the things that he did to us in our state.

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Speaker 8: I mean, shutting down churches, shutting down Jim, shutting down

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Speaker 8: you know, stores, you name it limiting how many people

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Speaker 8: can show up anywhere banning travel. I mean, the authoritarian

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Speaker 8: things he did in our state are what many other

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Speaker 8: Democrats did too. Whittmer did some of the same stuff

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Speaker 8: in Michigan. But I don't think that'll be popular. I

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Speaker 8: think he fools himself into thinking, well, he's a Democrat,

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Speaker 8: had won in a Republican state. All Democrats like that

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Speaker 8: think they're going to be the next Jimmy Carter or

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Speaker 8: Bill Clinton. And that's yet to be seen, but I

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Speaker 8: kind of doubt it. From what I've seen, I can't

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Speaker 8: imagine that he will be much of a force in

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Speaker 8: the Democrat primary.

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Speaker 1: Senator ran Paul, we appreciate the time, happy to have

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Speaker 1: you on whenever and keep us updated on how the

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Speaker 1: He's in studio with us here in Washington, DC. And

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Speaker 1: I know you got a ton of different things on

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Speaker 1: your plate, so I'm gonna hit you with questions. You

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Speaker 1: may try to dodge some of them, just because I

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Speaker 1: understand you guys are pretty good at that. So let's

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Speaker 1: start off here. I think now that President Trump is

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Speaker 1: in office, it's fair to say that we have seen

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of unfairness from ABC, CBS, NBC,

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Speaker 1: among others. They have with a government responsibility based on

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have given them a life as

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Speaker 1: a country. How fair now that we're through the election season.

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Speaker 1: Do you think news coverage has been what could occur

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Speaker 1: from your perspective, to make it fair er, because they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be as a part of getting a license.

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Speaker 1: You correct me if I'm wrong not providing some form

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Speaker 1: of biased news coverage. But I think most people that

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Speaker 1: are listening to us right now would really roll their

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Speaker 1: eyes at the idea that ABC, NBC and CBS are

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Speaker 1: providing in some way fair and balanced news coverage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much, great to be with you.

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Speaker 13: You know, look, if you step back and you think

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Speaker 13: about speakers in this country, you've got, you know, the

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Speaker 13: guy in the soap box gets to say whatever he wants.

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Speaker 13: You've got cable channels which are lightly regulated when it

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Speaker 13: comes to television stations. Those are licensed by the FCC, Yes,

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Speaker 13: and they are required by federal law to operate in

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Speaker 13: the public interest. Now, if you step back, over the years,

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Speaker 13: the FCC and regulators in Washington, I think have walked

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Speaker 13: away completely from enforcing that public interest obligation, and I

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Speaker 13: don't think we're better off for it. To your question,

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Speaker 13: if you step back, I don't think the national programmers.

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Speaker 13: So if you look at ABC, CBS, NBC. They own

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Speaker 13: some stations, but in the mainly program content that goes

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Speaker 13: out through licensed stations, I don't think they've been fair

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Speaker 13: at all if you step back and look at their

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Speaker 13: coverage in terms of Republicans or President Trump, and frankly.

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Speaker 2: That's not just my opinion. If you look at.

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Speaker 13: Trust in that national programmers, again, focusing on ABC, CBS, NBC,

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Speaker 13: trust is at an all time low. And again, Jeff

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Speaker 13: Bezos of all people, did an obed not that long

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Speaker 13: ago saying that these national media outlets have lost the

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Speaker 13: thread when it comes to where the American public is.

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Speaker 13: But the good news is this, there's another side of

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Speaker 13: the coin when to talk about the actual local broadcast

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Speaker 13: TV stations, the ones that actually hold the license by

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Speaker 13: the FCC, when they run programming, it's actually really trusted

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Speaker 13: by local communities. So the biggest policy that we're running

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Speaker 13: at the FCC in terms of media right now is

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Speaker 13: how do we empower the local broadcasters to serve the

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Speaker 13: public interest and allow them to get some distance from

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Speaker 13: the national programmers that are really just generating content in

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Speaker 13: Hollywood in New York and sort of force feeding it

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Speaker 13: out there. So I think there's actually a lot the

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Speaker 13: FCC can do that addresses this issue, and again focusing

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Speaker 13: on that unique public interest obligations that TV channels have.

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Speaker 1: That is super interesting because I think most people out

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Speaker 1: there listening to us right now, when there is a

876
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Speaker 1: major thunderstorm, for instance, and they are at home, they

877
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Speaker 1: trust their local news to provide them accurate coverage about danger, tornadoes,

878
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Speaker 1: everything else. But they certainly don't trust the national news

879
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Speaker 1: to provide them. So I hadn't really thought about that dichotomy.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting in PR PBS we have seen the vote

881
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Speaker 1: barely get passed in the House to take away their

882
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Speaker 1: funding as it pertains to government dollars. I've always thought

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. To my knowledge, we don't get a massive

884
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Speaker 1: amount of government support. We compete WITHINPR. This show does

885
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Speaker 1: the premier networks all over the country, and it's always

886
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Speaker 1: felt like an unfair competition that they get these dollars

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Speaker 1: we don't. What do you think, What kind of optics

888
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Speaker 1: does the FCC have on those issues?

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Speaker 2: It really wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 13: If you looked at a cross section of the listeners

891
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Speaker 13: and viewer to NPR and PBS, you'd get a pretty

892
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Speaker 13: decent cross section of the country as a whole, and

893
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Speaker 13: at some point, not that long ago, things changed dramatically,

894
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Speaker 13: and it appears that NPR and PBS have been appealing

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Speaker 13: to a very narrow bespoke, almost acella hoard or portions

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Speaker 13: in the country. And you can do that right as

897
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Speaker 13: a First Amendment matter. But if you are going to

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Speaker 13: Congress and saying I want you Congress to force people

899
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Speaker 13: to take money out of their pocketbooks, send it to Washington,

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Speaker 13: and then send it to subsidize that, I think it's

901
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Speaker 13: entirely legitimate for people to be asking questions about that.

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Speaker 2: It's your point.

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Speaker 13: Recently recisions package past the House that would save about

904
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Speaker 13: a billion dollars from that funding. The FCC we've launched

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Speaker 13: actually an investigation into NPR and PBS, And here's why

906
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Speaker 13: they are. Unlike any other station, like a station here

907
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Speaker 13: at commercial station, they're non commercial, which means they get

908
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Speaker 13: special benefits above and beyond those that regular broadcasters get.

909
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Speaker 13: But as a consequence, they can't run advertising. But what

910
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Speaker 13: it looks like they've been doing is running programs that

911
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Speaker 13: appear to be very close, if not to advertisements themselves.

912
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Speaker 13: So we've launched an inquiry at the FCC to make

913
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Speaker 13: sure that they are not violating the law, because really,

914
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Speaker 13: you can't have it both ways. You can't be getting,

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Speaker 13: you know, public funding and claiming that you're a non

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Speaker 13: commercial and then potentially the same time running commercial.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking at as well right now, CBS News

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Speaker 1: in the news a lot. You got the transcript released

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Speaker 1: of sixty Minutes, the interview that they did with Kamala

920
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Speaker 1: Harris right before the election, that was edited in many

921
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Speaker 1: different ways, potentially beneficially to her. What can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about the investigation into sixty Minutes and how does

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Speaker 1: that impact the larger paramount idea they're trying to sell

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Speaker 1: to Skydance.

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Speaker 2: I believe where is all of that from your perspective?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, right before January twentieth inactink read around January tenth

927
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Speaker 13: I believe the prior administration, the Biden FCC summarily dismissed

928
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Speaker 13: a news distortion complaint that have been filed against sixty

929
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Speaker 13: Minutes based on claims of editing around that answer to

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Speaker 13: Kamala Harris in the sixty Minutes episode. They dismissed it

931
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Speaker 13: without actually doing any real inquiry, without doing any due diligence,

932
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Speaker 13: and one of the very first things that we did

933
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Speaker 13: was we restored that complaint against CBS. We've put it

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Speaker 13: out for public comment and to your point, we obtained

935
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Speaker 13: the unedited transcript in video of that interview. We've put

936
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Speaker 13: it all out there. I think sunlight's the best disinfected.

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Speaker 13: So right now the American people are participating in this process.

938
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Speaker 13: We haven't made a final decision, but we are weighing

939
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Speaker 13: whether in fact it is a news distortion or not,

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Speaker 13: and that's under active investigation at the FCC. Separate from that,

941
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Speaker 13: we do have a transaction before the FCC where the

942
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Speaker 13: owners of CBS are looking to sell and as of

943
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Speaker 13: right now, we're just running our normal course review on

944
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Speaker 13: that and no significant update as to where we are

945
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Speaker 13: on that.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the spectrum, and I know people

947
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Speaker 1: think about this a lot. I was out in San

948
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Speaker 1: Francisco recently, got to go in a weaymo. I felt

949
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Speaker 1: like I was in the future.

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Speaker 13: For all the weyms started getting before. Yeah, good, get

951
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Speaker 13: out of that clay. We got out safely there doing

952
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Speaker 13: research on that. The amount of spectrum that's going to

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Speaker 13: be required for autonomous vehicles actually pretty extraordinary. The government,

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Speaker 13: I'm sure a lot of people out there understand this

955
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Speaker 13: may not has control of the wireless spectrum universe out there,

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Speaker 13: Is there enough to be able to handle all the

957
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Speaker 13: technology coming? What would be beneficial in your mind as

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Speaker 13: you look at the auctions of this spectrum and the

959
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Speaker 13: utilization of the spectrum. Yeah, this is a really important issue.

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Speaker 13: It's a practical issue, it's a national security issue. Most

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Speaker 13: people they pick up their smartphone or they hop into

962
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Speaker 13: a weaimo, they just assume it works. They don't know how.

963
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Speaker 13: Maybe they think it's magic or pixie dust. But it's

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00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 13: these invisible airways that you need to power everything. When

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Speaker 13: you look at the future of technology, whether it's autonomous vehicles,

966
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Speaker 13: whether it's arvr AI, the data demand to carry data

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Speaker 13: traffic wirelessly is just like a hockey stick through the roof.

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Speaker 13: And right now China has leaped out to a really

969
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Speaker 13: significant lead over the US. Didn't used to be this way.

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Speaker 13: If you gotch the first Trump administration, China was ahead

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Speaker 13: of US early on, and President Trump stepped in, showed

972
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Speaker 13: strong leadership, and the US closed the gap. That's why

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Speaker 13: you saw four G and five G explode in the US.

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Speaker 13: Now President Biden stepped in and we just fell into

975
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Speaker 13: a deep malaise when it comes to freeing up spectrum.

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Speaker 13: And President Trump recently has articulately that he wants the

977
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Speaker 13: US to lead again, and we're gonna do it. So

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Speaker 13: one of the things that the One Big Beautiful Bill

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Speaker 13: does is it restores the FCS authority to free up

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Speaker 13: these airways which lapsed during the Biden years. Senator Cruz.

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Speaker 13: Chairman Cruz has been phenomenal in leading on this. But

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Speaker 13: we are hundreds of megahertz behind where China is right now,

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Speaker 13: and to your point, our commercial sector needs it, DoD

984
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 13: uses it as well. But I think ultimately right now

985
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 13: where we're short is commercial spectrum for high power use.

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Speaker 13: President Trump and Chairman Crews have been clear, but it's

987
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 13: national security, it's economic growth, and it's bridging the digital

988
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Speaker 13: divide because we use that spectrum to connect people, to

989
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Speaker 13: connect communities.

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Speaker 1: Your job, to a large extent, I would think, and

991
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Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong, is to try

992
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Speaker 1: to allow the marketplace of ideas to work at the

993
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: best of its manner and ensure that the government is

994
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: not putting a hand or a finger on the scale

995
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Speaker 1: to allow one side to have an advantage.

996
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Speaker 2: How fair.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the overall media environment is from your

998
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Speaker 1: perspective as FCC chairman, when you look at it across

999
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: the scope of all of the different arenas that you

1000
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: are monitoring right now, do you think we have a

1001
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: fair system in place right now or do you think

1002
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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of things that need to be

1003
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Speaker 1: done well.

1004
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 13: I think there's still a significant ways to go in

1005
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 13: terms of making sure that broadcasters in particular live up

1006
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 13: the public interest obligation. Again, the studies and survey in

1007
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 13: terms of lack of trust speak to that. But if

1008
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 13: you step back, particularly during COVID, we saw this massive

1009
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Speaker 13: acceleration of censorship in this country, and a lot of

1010
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Speaker 13: it took place on social media and on big tech platforms.

1011
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 13: Silicon Valley was deciding whether you got to stay on

1012
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 13: the digital towns where what you could say. And the

1013
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 13: evidence also shows that the Biden administration was effectively colluding

1014
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 13: with a lot of these social media companies to shut

1015
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Speaker 13: down free speech. And it didn't just happen here in

1016
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Speaker 13: the US, It's spreading globally. In Brazil, there's this Justice

1017
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 13: Day Moray, this government official there that's been censoring social media.

1018
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Speaker 13: In Europe, they're passing laws to sort of force US

1019
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 13: technology companies to abide by their version of censorship, and

1020
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Speaker 13: so to some extent, we are on the back side

1021
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 13: of that, meaning as the government controls with COVID rescind,

1022
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 13: we see free speech re emerge because you can't have both, right,

1023
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 13: If you're gonna have massive government controls that came with

1024
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Speaker 13: that came with COVID, you necessarily have censorship as well,

1025
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Speaker 13: because free speech is a check on those types of

1026
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 13: government controls. And President Trump has come in and very

1027
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 13: clearly said that he's going to restore free speech in

1028
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 13: this country. So, whether it's the work of the FCC,

1029
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 13: the Federal Trade Commission is doing great work on this,

1030
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 13: the DOJ, we're looking to sort of break up that

1031
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 13: collusive conduct that really amounted, in my view, to a

1032
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 13: censorship cartel. There's still work to do, but I think

1033
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 13: we're finally turning the tide up that.

1034
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm sure a lot of people out there

1035
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: listening right now listening to us on traditional radios, podcast

1036
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: certainly still watching some news broadcast CBSABC, NBC. But for

1037
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: my kids, they get almost all their news from TikTok

1038
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Speaker 1: and YouTube, so to your point on the power of media.

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: The dynamic has shifted in a big way. Like I

1040
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: don't even know that my kids could find local news

1041
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: on television other than watching sports. They never watch it.

1042
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Speaker 1: Everything through YouTube. And I'll give you an example. On

1043
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,479
Speaker 1: this program. YouTube wouldn't allow our interview with President Trump.

1044
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: They would we just had Ran Paul on at the

1045
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Speaker 1: top of the last at the top of the hour.

1046
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Speaker 1: They wouldn't allow our interview with Rand Paul to be

1047
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: posted because they said something that YouTube didn't like. But

1048
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Speaker 1: in an election universe, in a democratic universe, should it,

1049
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, everything that a political figure says

1050
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: be distributed as widely as possible and not restricted and censored.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 13: One of things that I focused a lot on is

1053
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 13: this concept of user empowerment. Look, we don't want any one,

1054
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 13: single centralized authority, whether it's a Silicon Valley company or otherwise,

1055
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 13: deciding who can participate in the town square. What can

1056
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 13: they say in the digital town square. We need to

1057
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 13: empower individuals. So if you don't want to see Rampaul, great,

1058
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 13: don't follow him. If you don't want to see this video, okay,

1059
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 13: block or unfollow the show. But we need to sort

1060
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 13: of get those decision making this decisions back into the

1061
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 13: hands of individual users and take it out of the

1062
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Speaker 13: hands of the big corporations, for instance, on social media.

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Speaker 13: You one idea we've talked about is should we have

1064
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 13: content filters that you can choose. Like, let's say you want,

1065
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 13: for reasons that escape me, but you want MSNBC to

1066
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 13: filter your feed for you. Okay, plug that in and

1067
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 13: do it. If you want, you know, this show to

1068
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 13: have one, great, if you want Fox News to do it, great,

1069
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 13: But let's get that power back to individuals unless this centralized,

1070
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 13: because when you make a mistake at a system wide

1071
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 13: level like that, like, the consequences are very serious. Yeah,

1072
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 13: people think about, wow, there's harm that comes from hate speech,

1073
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 13: which obviously is protected by the First Amendment. But think

1074
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Speaker 13: about the other side of it, Like when you couldn't

1075
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Speaker 13: talk about the origins of COVID nineteen, when you couldn't

1076
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Speaker 13: talk about the costs and benefits of masking young children

1077
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Speaker 13: who were trying to get speech development at that point

1078
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Speaker 13: in time. So there's very real harms that flowed from

1079
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Speaker 13: the sensors that we live through. Let alone, you know,

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Speaker 13: electoral consequences with a Hunter Bye laptop story.

1081
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Speaker 2: That this is on the last question for you.

1082
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Speaker 1: AI is taking off at a rapid rate, and we

1083
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Speaker 1: have fun with AI memes that people will post of

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Speaker 1: me playing the flute like and all sorts of ridiculous

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Speaker 1: things out there. But it's rapidly evolving to the point

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Speaker 1: where I think being able to determine what's real and

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Speaker 1: what's fake is going to become really very difficult. Are

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Speaker 1: you concerned about that? Because it's one thing to restrict

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Speaker 1: something that we know is real, but how in the

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Speaker 1: world do we have the ability to let people know

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Speaker 1: what is true and what is false and what someone's

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I've seen these AI general videos of the podcasters

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Speaker 13: that are in the baby Yeah, yeah, Yah, they're hilarious. Yes,

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Speaker 13: those are very very fun. I don't if they've had

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Speaker 13: any of those use of you or not, but I

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Speaker 13: think they may think I'm a baby already. Yeah, we

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Speaker 13: built out a meme hole at one time. Looking at

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Speaker 13: all those, I thought they were hlarious. I mean, look,

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Speaker 13: I think we'd be very careful here. During the last administration,

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Speaker 13: President Biden had the FCC proposed putting labels on political

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Speaker 13: speech political ads that were generated in any way with

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Speaker 13: AI content, and really it just became a way of

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Speaker 13: sort of slowing down the use of AI because they

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Speaker 13: viewed it as in my view, Republicans were being more

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Speaker 13: successful in the meme wars than they were. So I

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Speaker 13: think there is some harm, as you noted, but I

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Speaker 13: think we have to be very careful that we don't

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Speaker 13: stifle this early on because ultimately it can start to

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Speaker 13: look a lot like censorship. So I do think that

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Speaker 13: people need to be vigilant and we need to educate people.

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Speaker 13: And it's I think it easier for younger folks. Think

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Speaker 13: older people can get you know, fooled a little more

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Speaker 13: easy well if you just step back online scams in general.

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Speaker 13: But I think this is an area we have to

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Speaker 13: proceed very cautiously, and I'd be very skeptical of regulation

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Speaker 13: at this point.

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Speaker 1: FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, I appreciate the time, appreciate you

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