1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in his Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: with you, and if you're listening on the radio around 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the country, it's really nice to have you with us. Senator. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about on this show 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and remind people we also do the show as a 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: podcast three days a week. So if you like the 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: radio show, you'll love the podcast. Make sure you down 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: with Verdict with Ted Cruse wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: And the President addressed the nation this week made it 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: very clear we're going to wrap things up with Iran, 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: but we also got some works till they get done well. 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: The President gave a national address talking about Iran, what 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: we're accomplishing, what the goals are, and I got to say, 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: if you're a caveman, the president's address was very very 15 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: good news. But if you're an Ayatola, if you are 16 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: a radical mulla who chanced death to America, the President's 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: address was terrible news. We're going to break it down, 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: tell you exactly what he said, what it means for 19 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: the Iran war, where things are going. We're also going 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: to talk about the fact that that this week the 21 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: President asked Pam BONDI for a resignation. He's going to 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: move to a new attorney general. Pam a good friend, 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: she has been a guest on this show. We're gonna 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: talk about Pam's record, and we're going to talk about 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: what's next at DOJ. 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Now so the, Senator 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: President trump came. Out he addressed nation about thirty one 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: days after he kind of told us what was going 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: to go on when we were going Into iran and 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: what the goals and objectives. Were he was giving an 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: update to The american. PEOPLE i really genuinely love this 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: level of transparency and also explaining where we, are what 59 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: is still. Left AND i think it landed pretty, well 60 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: especially with people that voted for The. 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: President, YEAH i think that's. Right The president said exactly 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: what we're doing and what's coming next, here give a. 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: Listen thanks to the progress we've, MADE i can say 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: tonight that we are on track to complete all Of 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: america's military objectives, shortly very. Shortly we're going to hit 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: them extremely hard over the next two to three. Weeks 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: we're going to bring them back to The Stone ages 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: where they. Belong. 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Center for anybody that wants, transparency you don't get any 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: more transparent than this. President he's, like, yes we have 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: the upper hand to the level where he can literally 72 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: just say To, iran this is what we're going to 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: do to. You if you don't agree to, this if 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: you don't open the straight of their Horn, moons well guess. 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: What we're gonna bomb the living snot out of. You 76 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: and we're not. BLUFFING i love the fact that this 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: president is just being like this, transparent not just with, 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: us but like with the rest of the world as. 79 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: Well look that that's important for our enemies to. Hear 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: it's important for our friends to. Hear imagine for a, 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: second you are the Current. Iatola the Previous iahtola has 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: gone to meet his. Maker you're the New, iahtola and you're, Thinking, 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: okay we've made it through four weeks of. This this 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: is about to be over The americans are about to. 85 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: Stop and then you turn on THE, tv you turn 86 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: on the, internet and you see him, say we're going 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: to bomb you back to The Stone. Age, look that's 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: not encouraging for the people who chant death To. America 89 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: that is that that is extremely. Dismaying they're holding on 90 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: by their. Fingernails and he's being clear that they're gonna hit, 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: very very. Hard now he's also being clear this is 92 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: gonna last a couple of. Weeks it's not gonna last months, 93 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: more it's not gonna last a year or. Longer he's 94 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: gonna pound the hell out of for the next couple of. 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Weeks and and you, know for the handful of online, 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: critics AND i do want to, say the press loves 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: to say there's a civil war Among republicans On President 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: trump Attacking. Iran that is objectively. False if you look 99 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: at the, polling the support is between eighty five percent 100 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: and ninety percent Of republicans support what the president is. 101 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Doing that's not a civil. War they're just a handful 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: of really loud, voices self proclaim influencers and. Podcasters by the, 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: way can you stand a podcast? Podcaster what are an annoying 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: class of human. Being the. 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Podcasters, yeah they quoted a lot when you need, them 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: right like. That, well there's a lot Of republican podcasters 107 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: THAT i describe as useful idiots for the left whenever 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: they need. 109 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: One they're. 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: People it's like they raise their hand, like, Oh i'll 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: do that for, You Like i'll say that for you 112 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: as long as you get my name out. There it's truly. 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: Incredible, yeah these self proclaimed podcasters are fond of, saying, 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Oh President trump has changed his. View he's changed his 115 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: view because he's a puppet that others are pulling his. Strings, well, 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: look the president Was claire also in his national. Address 117 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: this has been his view for a long long. Time, 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: here give a. 119 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: Listen from the very first DAY i announced my campaign 120 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: for president in twenty, FIFTEEN i have vowed THAT i 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: would never Allow iran to have a nuclear. Weapon this 122 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: fannacular regime has been chanting death To, america death To 123 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: israel for forty seven. Years their proxies were behind the 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 3: murder of two hundred and forty One americans and The 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: marine barracks bombing In, beirut the slaughter of hundreds of 126 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 3: our service members with roadside, bombs they were involved in 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: the attack on THE uss coal and they're carried out 128 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: the countless other heinous, acts including the blood just, horrible 129 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: bloody atrocities Of october seventh In, israel something that most 130 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: people have never seen anything like. It this murderer's regime 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: also recently killed forty five thousand of their own people 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: who were protesting In. Iran forty five thousand. Did for 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: these terrorists to have nuclear weapons would be an intolerable. 134 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: Threat the most violent and thuggish regime on earth would 135 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: be free to carry out their campaigns of, terror, coercion, 136 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: conquest and mass murder from behind a nuclear. SHIELD i 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: will never let that, happen and neither should any of 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: our past. Presidents you, know. 139 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: The only difference Between Donald trump and the past presidence 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: they just mentioned there is every other president has said 141 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: that you can't allow a ray to get a nuclear 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: weapon and that they are a threat to this country. 143 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Directly the only difference Is Donald trump actually did what 144 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: he said he was going to, do and he was 145 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: going to stop. Them the other ones did. Not they tried, 146 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: appeasement they tried just kind of looking the other. Way 147 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: none of it. Works since nineteen seventy, Nine so now 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: he's doing. It that's literally the only difference. 149 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: Here, well, Listen President trump has been absolutely, clear as 150 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: he pointed, out going back to when he launched his 151 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: first presidential campaign in twenty. Fifteen twenty fifteen was eleven years. 152 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Ago so the naysayers online who claim there's some like 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: magical Realization Donald trump has, had have not listened to 154 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: him year after year after year for more than a. 155 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Decade when he Said iran will not get nuclear, weapons 156 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: he meant, it and he's. Acting he's carrying out on. 157 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: That right. 158 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: NOW i want to Play devil's advocate with you because 159 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and some of those on 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: the right that have said this, like we didn't need 161 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: to go, now this was Just Donald trump wanting to 162 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: get into some sort of war and this was bad 163 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: timing by. Him so let me ask. You for people 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: that are saying why, now explain why now made? 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Sense, well there were two factors that were really. Critical Number, 166 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: one As President trump mentioned just a minute, ago and 167 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: as he said for eleven, years we cannot Allow iran 168 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: to get nuclear. Weapons that when The iyatola chanted death To, 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: america we have every reason to believe. Him The iranian 170 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: regime is killed nearly a Thousand. Americans they have been 171 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: the number one state funder of terrorism. Worldwide if they 172 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: had a nuclear, weapon the odds are unacceptably high they 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: would use. 174 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: It. 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: Now a month, ago they were not on the verge 176 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: of acquiring nuclear. Weapons last, year during The Twelve Day, 177 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: War President trump ordered OUR b two bombers to fly 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: halfway around the, world and we dropped bunker busters on 179 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 2: their nuclear weapons research, facilities PARTICULARLY, fordao WHICH fordao is 180 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: a secret research. Bunker it was built under a mountain 181 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: and it was built to withstand bombing attacks Because israel 182 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: did not have bombs big enough to take OUT. Forda 183 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: no other country On earth had bombs big enough to 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: do that except for The United. States were the only 185 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: ones that had the bunker busters big enough to take it. 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: Out the ordinance we dropped on their nuclear research facilities 187 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: last year where the equivalent of one third of a nuclear. 188 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: Weapon we're talking, big big, bombs and we took out 189 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: their nuclear weapons. Facilities so a month ago they were 190 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: not on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons facilities or nuclear. Weapons, 191 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: rather why Did President trump? Act Because iran was building, 192 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: missiles short range and medium range ballistic missiles at an 193 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: incredibly rapid, clip over one hundred missiles a month they were. 194 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: Building they were also. 195 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Building, okay put that, RESPECTIVE i think people need to 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: understand building one hundred a, month that is like warp 197 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: speed in the ballistic missile. World people need to understand, that, 198 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: like if you're building that, many it's for a. Reason 199 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: you're going to. Ward it's not even a defensive that's 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: like an offensive. Posture and everybody in the world basically 201 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: agreed with. 202 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: That, well we also know now that they had missiles 203 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: that were sufficient that they could go all the way 204 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: From iran To Diego, garcia because during this war they 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: fired a missile At Dieo, garcia which is A British 206 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: america military base in The Chagos islands in the middle 207 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: of The Indian. Oceans that's a couple thousand miles. Away 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: that is the same distance From iran That paris And london, 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: are which meant they had missiles far enough to get 210 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: to the capital cities In. Europe they were building over 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: one hundred missiles a. Month they were also building vast 212 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: numbers of, drones and their plan was to have so 213 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: many missiles and so many drones that it would become 214 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: prohibitively costly to go in and take out their next 215 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: nuclear weapons research. Facility they wanted enough missiles and drones 216 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: that if we came in and took Out phase two 217 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: of the nuclear weapons research, facility they could inflict massive 218 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: casualties on their. Neighbors and look what they did when 219 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: this conflict. Started they fired missiles at, everybody not just At, 220 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: israel at every one of their. Neighbors and so The 221 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: trump administration made the determination they needed to act now 222 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: before they had so many missiles and so many drones 223 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: that there would be a massive loss of life if 224 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: we acted subsequently to take out nuclear weapons research. Facilities 225 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: that's number. One number, two The iranian regime is weaker 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: right now than it has been at any time during our. 227 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: Lifetime as you, KNOW i spent the entire day the 228 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: day before this conflict began With President. Trump he AND 229 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: i were together At Air Force. One we flew FROM 230 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: dc To texas, together and then he asked me to 231 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: join him in the beast in the presidential. Limo it 232 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: was just the two of, us one on. One the 233 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: entire time we were talking about what should he do In? 234 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Iran and WHAT i was arguing to, HIM i support this, 235 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: attack AND i urge this attack. Vigorously AND i, said, 236 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: listen the regime has never been more. Vulnerable it is, 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: teetering and there is very, little if, anything that you 238 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: could do that would more greatly Enhance american national security 239 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: than to see this Radical islamist regime, collapse to remove 240 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: from power An, ayatola who chanced death To, america who 241 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: has been Murdering americans for, years and who wants to 242 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: kill as Many americans as he. 243 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Can all, right let me go back to another big, 244 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: question AND i would say a fallacy that's been out 245 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: there that a lot of people have been talking, about 246 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: and that, is, well it Wasn't america's role to do. 247 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: This if the neighbors were, afraid then they should have 248 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: been the. Ones we already went after their nuclear. Facilities 249 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: that's Where america should have. Stopped and if others In 250 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: europe were concerned about being hit by these missiles that 251 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: could reach them capital, cities then that's on them to do, 252 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: it Not. America why did we have to do, This 253 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: that's the isolation's Viewpoint i've. 254 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: Heard, look we weren't doing it For iran's. Neighbors we 255 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: weren't doing it For Saudi arabia OR uae Or. Cutter 256 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: we weren't doing it For, europe and we weren't doing 257 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: it For. ISRAEL i know all of the jew haters 258 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: online like to, say it's For, israel it's For, Israel 259 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: it's For. Israel The ayatola chanted death To. America he 260 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: also chanted death To. Israel but there's a reason The 261 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: ayatola Called israel the Little satan And america The Great. 262 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: SATAN i believe if The ayahtola had a nuclear, weapon 263 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: he might have detonated it In Tel aviv and killed 264 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: vast numbers Of. Israelis BUT i actually think it is 265 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: more likely if he, could he would detonate a nuclear 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: weapon In New York city Or Los angeles and kill 267 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: as Many americans as. Possible that, is look when he 268 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: calls us the Great, satan and understand this is not. 269 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Hypothetical AND i want to underscore my. VIEW i, am 270 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: as a general, matter very reluctant to use military. FORCE 271 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: i think The Iraq war was a. MISTAKE i have 272 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: been vocal for a long time that The Iraq war 273 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: was a. Mistake why DO i think it was a 274 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: mistake Because Saddam hussein was not waging war against The United. 275 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: States he was not killing vast numbers Of. Americans he 276 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: was not pledging to kill vast numbers Of. Americans The 277 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: iyahtola was over ninety percent of the funding for Hamas 278 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: hesbeal and The huthis had come From. Iran they were 279 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: Murdering americans year after year after. Year they were trying 280 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: to Murder President. Trump and that is why The president. 281 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Acted and look at all we've. Accomplished give a listen 282 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: to The president on everything we've accomplished so far. 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: Tonight iran's navy is, gone their air forces in, ruins their, 284 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: leaders most of them terrorist regime they, led are now, 285 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: dead their command and control of The Islamic Revolutionary Guard 286 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: corps being decimated as we. Speak their ability to launch 287 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: missiles and drones is dramatically, curtailed and their weapons factories 288 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: and rocket launchers are being blown to, pieces very few 289 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: of them. Left never in the history of warfare has 290 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: an enemy suffered such clear and, devastating large scale losses 291 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: in a matter of. 292 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Weeks President trump being very clear THERE i want to 293 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: move on to one of the big. Headlines it's never 294 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: fun when someone loses their job in the. Administry the 295 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: headline from The New York. Post pambondi speaks out for 296 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the first time After trump fired her as The Attorney. 297 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: GENERAL i want to get your take on. This you 298 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: know her, WELL i know, Her we've had her on 299 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: this show. Before look in, cabinets there's always people that 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: come and. Go that's just part Of washington and. Politics 301 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: it is what it. Is there's a lot of people 302 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: on the left that are just thrilled about this that they're, 303 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: oh there's a turmoil and you know. EVERYTHING i don't 304 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: think it's that way at. ALL i think this is 305 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: The president just, Saying, OKAY i want to do something 306 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, different and he's going to move on 307 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: pretty darn. 308 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: Quick, yeah, Listen pambondy is a good friend of. MINE 309 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: i think she took on what may be the single 310 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: hardest job in the entire, administration The department Of. Justice 311 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: there is a deep state AT doj and at THE 312 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: fbi who fought her from day, one who have been 313 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: waging war trying to prevent her efforts to bring back, 314 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: integrity to take the politicization out of The department Of, 315 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: justice and it's been an uphill. Battle it's been a difficult. 316 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Battle pam was someone who she was a guest On, 317 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: verdict literally when she was just a couple of weeks 318 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: into the job at a very, beginning brand new Ag 319 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: she came On verdict and was a guest and talked 320 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: to us about everything she was trying to. Accomplish you, 321 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: know she put out a tweet saying. Farewell here's What 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: pam had to. Say over the next, MONTH i will 323 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: be working tirelessly to transition the office Of Attorney general 324 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: to the Amazing Todd blanche before moving to an important 325 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: private sector ROLE i am thrilled about and WHERE i 326 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: will continue fighting For President trump in this. Administration Leading 327 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: President trump's historic and highly successful efforts to Make america 328 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: safer and more secure has been the honor of a 329 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: lifetime and easily the most consequential first year of The 330 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: department Of justice In american. History Since february twenty twenty, 331 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: five we have secured the lowest murder rate in one 332 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five, years secured first ever terrorism convictions 333 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: against members Of, antifa shattered domestic and transnational gangs across the, 334 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: country taken custody of more than ninety key cartel, figures 335 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: and won twenty four favorable rulings at The Supreme. COURT 336 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: i remain internally grateful for the trust That President trump 337 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: placed in me to Make america safe. Again and, LISTEN 338 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: i Think pam served. Honorably it is The president's prerogative 339 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: to choose if he wants new leadership of The department Of, 340 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: justice and he's made that. Choice BUT i Think pam 341 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: served honorably in a very difficult. Job AND i think her, 342 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: results particularly in terms of, crime in terms of going 343 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: after murderers and rapists and gang bangers and illegal, aliens 344 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: and the resulting twenty percent drop in the murder rate 345 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: is staggering and, unprecedented and it is something she should 346 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: be very proud. Of i'm certain that she, is because 347 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: between that and the rate of drug overdose deaths dropping 348 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: twenty percent, nationally there are literally thousands Of americans right 349 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: now who are alive today because of the policy she 350 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: And President trump and A Republican congress put in place 351 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: securing the border and removing dangerous. Criminals that's something to 352 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: be really proud. 353 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: Of it. 354 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Is and you look at my hometown For, examp WHERE 355 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: i was born In, Memphis. TENNESSEE pam was there multiple. 356 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: Times crime there is down forty percent year over. Year 357 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: The president just went To, memphis gosh less than a 358 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: week ago and talked about the success there of what 359 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: he did there In, washington D. C pam was a 360 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: large part of that as. Well and as you, mentioned 361 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: like that's part of a. Legacy, look you AND i 362 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: have known people that have come and gone in cabinets, 363 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: before some of them actually. Ags i've known a couple 364 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: that have lost their job after a. While it. Is 365 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: it's one of the hardest jobs to. Do my former 366 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: mentor IN dc Was John, ashcroft and he always didn't 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: get along with the. President Units It's. America George bush, 368 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: three and Afterwards Alberta gonzalez came. IN i, mean you, 369 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: know it is part of what. HAPPENS i also, think, 370 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: though based on the names we're hearing right, now somebody's 371 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna get this job and they're gonna do probably one 372 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: hell of a job for the. President AND i do 373 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: think even, now you know even more to find what 374 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: The president's gonna want out of you on the on 375 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: the second go round on this. One that also can 376 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: be good for that individual coming. 377 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: In. 378 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at least right, now what's been announced That Todd, 379 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: blanche who's The Deputy Attorney, general is going to be 380 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: the Acting Attorney. GENERAL i don't know how long that's gonna. 381 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Last it wouldn't surprise me If President trump gives him 382 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: a little bit of time to see what kind of 383 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: job he, does he may end up Leaving Todd blanche 384 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: in that. Role that would not shock. Me todd is 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: a serious, lawyer has been doing a good job As 386 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: Deputy Attorney. General he has been focused on a lot 387 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: of the law enforcement, mission in particular locking up, criminals 388 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: and SO i could see him being given a shot 389 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: at the top. Job there's been other chat That Lee's. 390 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Elden Leez elden has also been a guest on this. 391 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: Podcast he's the administrator of THE. Epa we had. 392 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: THAT i didn't realize he's a. LAWYER i had multiple 393 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: people texting Me they're, like how is the guy in THE. 394 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Epa i'm, like, well he's a, Lawyer and they had 395 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: no idea he was a. LAWYER i, mean He's his 396 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: name has been circulating like inside Of washington and outside 397 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: Of washington as well. 398 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, Listen lee has done a very effective job AT. 399 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: Epa and by the, way it is hard to do 400 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: the job ahead of THE epa if you're not a, 401 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: lawyer because it's dense and complicated laws and regulations and understanding. 402 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: It And lee's been really effective in the regulatory reform 403 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 2: agenda and in pulling back the job killing regulations that 404 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: did so much damage under The biden. Administration AND i 405 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: suspect that's one REASON i haven't had this conversation With President, 406 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: trump BUT i suspect that's one reason why he's Considering 407 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: lee's because he's been, very very effective in a, complicated 408 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: difficult cabinet. Position now D oj is qualitatively. Different and, 409 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 2: Listen i'll say for. Me you, know in the First trump, 410 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: ADMINISTRATION i talked to The president quite seriously about possibly 411 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: being a g and In trump. WON i went in 412 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: and spent about four and a half hours In Trump 413 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: tower the week after the election In november twenty, sixteen 414 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: AND i had a conversation with him on a number of, 415 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: fronts AND i made WHAT i would say would be 416 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: a half hearted play for Ag WHAT i told him 417 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: at the, time AS i, said, LISTEN i recognize back 418 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: then THAT i was pretty late on the, train AND i, 419 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: said there are others Like Jeff sessions Or giuliani Or. 420 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: Christy if they want to be, ag you probably should 421 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: should give it to. Them but if you wanted to 422 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: talk to me about, This i'd be willing to have that. 423 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: Conversation we did talk about. It we had a good. 424 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: Conversation The president made the decision to go With Jeff. 425 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: Sessions jeff was a good friend of, mine was a 426 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: colleague in The. SENATE i was happy for, him AND 427 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: i will tell, you in the eleven years since that, 428 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: CONVERSATION i have been grateful every day since then THAT 429 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: i did not go down that, path because let's be, 430 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: clear IF i had become, ag you're. 431 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Gonna ask that. QUESTION i was gonna ask the question, 432 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: like did you ever look back and you're, like that 433 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: was the best conversation ever to be laid on the? 434 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: Train? 435 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: Uh, oh, yes, yes, Yes and LOOK i made a 436 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: half hearted play on. PURPOSE i know how to make 437 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: a full throat at, play BUT i THOUGHT i perceived 438 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: the downsides of the, job AND i liked WHAT i 439 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: was doing, Then SO i was, like but to be, 440 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: honest the REASON i made that the half hearted play 441 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: is is just for love of the. GAME i, mean, 442 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: frankly the job Of attorney. GENERAL i would really enjoy that. 443 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: Job it didn't make any, sense it wasn't consistent with 444 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: WHAT i wanted to, do but it just would be fun. 445 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 3: In. 446 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: Hindsight SO i will tell. You nine months into, it 447 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: there was a story in The New York. Times this 448 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: is would have BEEN i Think august of twenty. Seventeen, 449 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: OH i, REMEMBER i, remember well where you're? 450 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: Going it is keep? 451 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Going and the story Said trump is thinking about Firing 452 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Jeff's sessions and he's talking To cruise about replacing, him and, 453 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Look sessions has been a friend of mine. Forever SO 454 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: i Called. Jeff and by the, Way jeff knew THAT 455 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: i talked to him about. It he was In Trump 456 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: tower the DAY i was there talking to about. It 457 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: we were very open and transparent with each. Other AND 458 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: i Called jeff the day that story came out AND i, said, Hey, 459 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: JEFF i just wanted you to hear from. Me this 460 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: IS bs LIKE i have. NOT i, said you. KNEW 461 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: i had a conversation with The president Back november of last, 462 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: YEAR i. Said since, Then i've not had another conversation 463 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: ABOUT ag AND i just Told JEFF i want you 464 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: to hear from. ME i don't want the job AND 465 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: i wouldn't take it if, Offered so this is not 466 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: coming from. Me and, Listen jeff had a rough time 467 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: in that. Position Bill, barr who succeeded, him started out really, 468 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: well but at the end he had a rough time 469 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: in that. Position that has been a. Job Pam bondy 470 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: did a lot of, good but getting fired in front 471 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: of the world is not. Fun it's not. FUN i 472 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: put out a statement saying saying how MUCH i support 473 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: and like, her AND i sent her a text just, saying, 474 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Hey i'm praying for you and thinking for thinking of, 475 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: you and thank you for being a patriot and answer 476 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: in the. Call but all of which is to, SAY 477 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: i am immensely glad THAT i stayed in The. Senate 478 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: i've Been Donald trump's single strongest ally in The senate 479 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: for more than a. Decade BUT i very much like 480 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: the arrangement of working hand in hand with The president 481 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: from The senate rather THAN Dj whoever gets the, nod 482 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: whether It's Todd blanche Or Lee zelden or, WHOEVER i 483 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: will work with them to help them get. CONFIRMED i 484 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 2: will work hand in hand with, them just LIKE i 485 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: did With Pam bondy And Bill barr And Jeff, sessions 486 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: because the mission OF doj is massively important And President 487 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: trump deserves a, strong, effective incredibly Principled Attorney. 488 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: General Mark wain got. Confirmed it was actually pretty. Easy 489 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: do you expect the same thing for whoever The president 490 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: picks real quick in this position as? Well even with 491 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: a slim. 492 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: Majority, probably although Like Mark, WAYNE i think it'll be 493 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: largely a party line. Vote Mark wayne got only Two 494 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: democrats who voted for. HIM i think no matter who 495 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: who The president, appoints The democrats will will will party 496 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: line vote against, them with a possible exception of one or. 497 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: Two but if it's anything like if it's any reasonable appointment, 498 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: APPOINTMENT i think you'll see The republicans line up and 499 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: give The president at least fifty one. 500 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: Votes all right. Center there was something very interesting that 501 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: happened this. Week no one was really covering. It The 502 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: New York, times, however did report on this that that 503 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: radical leftist organization At blue may have Misled congress on 504 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: And i'm quoting here vetting foreign, donations its lawyers, said, 505 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: so just to be, clear another example Of democrats taking foreign, 506 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: interference SOMETHING i thought they were totally against in our 507 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: elections and or in our. Laws but, yeah not on this. 508 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: One APPARENTLY fourgm dollars coming in and they may not 509 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: have vetted the money at. 510 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: All, so in a shocking, development rain fell, upwards fish began, 511 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: flying birds began. Swimming, yes and The New York times 512 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: actually reported, news do we. 513 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: Do a golf cup for? 514 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: That Like Little? 515 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: Masters it is shocking this, story and this is actually 516 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: a bombshell story that that could potentially have very real. 517 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: Consequences it's in The New York. Times the headline Is 518 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Act blue may have Misled congress on vetting foreign, donations 519 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: its lawyers, Warn so understand the source of this Is 520 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: covington And, burling which is a blue chip law firm 521 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: IN dc that Were Joe biden's Former White house counsel 522 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 2: was the lawyer For Act blue And Act blue is a. 523 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: Powerhouse it has raised billions and billions of dollars For. 524 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: Democrats say that, again not, millions billion hours, raids just 525 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: For democrats. 526 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: That they flood money and they have all of these 527 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: donors who their credit card information is set. In they're 528 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: on auto contribute month after month after, month and it 529 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: just floods. Cash now here's What The New York times. 530 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: Reported The democratic fundraising group is facing investigations from The 531 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: Justice department And Congressional republicans ahead of midterm. Elections in 532 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: early twenty twenty, five a law firm working For, ActBlue 533 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: The democratic fundraising, behemoth delivered the organization a startling. Warning 534 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 2: the firm concluded That actblue's chief executive had given a 535 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: potentially misleading response To Congressional republican investigators in a twenty 536 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: twenty three letter explaining how the organization vetted donations to 537 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: ensure that they were not illegally coming from foreign. Citizens. 538 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: Quote this presents a substantial risk For Act, blue the 539 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: law Firm comington And berlin wrote in one of the two. 540 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: Memos one memo raised the specter of criminal investigation of 541 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: prosecutors believed That Act blue had tried to conceal facts 542 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: about its efforts to prevent foreign. Contributions the memos instigated 543 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: a meltdown at the highest levels Of Act, blue one 544 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: of The Democratic party's most vital financial. ORGANS a series 545 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: of top officials resigned in quick. Succession Act blue is 546 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: now all but declaring war on its past, lawyers an 547 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: extraordinary turn of event at a moment When President trump 548 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 2: has already ordered A Justice department investigation into the. Organization 549 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: democrats are nervous that any additional upheaval At Act blue 550 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: could destabilize the critical fundraising apparatus ahead of the midterm. 551 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: Elections all levels Of democratic, candidates from incumbent presidents to 552 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: school board, aspirants Use Act blue to raise campaign money 553 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: from online. Donors the platform has processed get this, number 554 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: nearly nineteen billion with a b billion dollars in contributions 555 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: since it's founding in two thousand and, four building a 556 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: donor database with millions of credit card numbers that is 557 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: unmatched In american. Politics nearly twenty three thousand candidates and 558 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: groups use the site in twenty twenty. Five in one, 559 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: year nearly twenty three thousand candidates in groups and raised 560 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: almost one point eight billion dollars from fifty two million, 561 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: contributions some of which recur every. Month and what is 562 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: striking is The covington memos, said and here's the really 563 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: killer sentence. Quote it can be alleged That ActBlue accepted 564 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: and or facilitated the acceptance of foreign national contributions Into american. 565 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 2: Elections in, addition Because Act blue staff was aware that 566 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: its system was not as robust as, necessary it could 567 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: be alleged that these violations were knowing and, willful a 568 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: standard that both increases the penalties THE fec might seek 569 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: and gives The Justice department jurisdiction for a potential criminal. 570 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: Investigation this is a, big big. 571 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Deal, yeah when you say big, deal And i'm a pessimist, 572 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: now like a lot of, people and every time we 573 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: see some things like this, happen then it's, like all, right, 574 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: well is there going to be people that go to 575 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: jail and be? Arrested and then it seems like nothing ever. 576 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Happens so when you say this is a big big, 577 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: deal are you saying that there could actually genuinely be 578 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: people that get in trouble for this or is it 579 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: just gonna be like someone will fine and we move, 580 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: on or even nothing at. 581 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: All, look there could be people criminally, prosecuted there could 582 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: be people going to, jail but that's not really the biggest. 583 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: Consequence the biggest consequence is there's a criminal. Investigation and 584 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: this Is covington And, berling a Big democrat law firm 585 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: that was the lawyer For Act, blue telling, them holy, 586 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: crap you guys have screwed up and you've got real. 587 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: Exposure and then this Is The New York, times the 588 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: official mouthpiece for The, democrats reporting on. It the biggest 589 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: political consequence would be if a criminal investigation shuts Down 590 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: Act blue between now and the, election Because Act, blue 591 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: if nothing else, Happens Act blue will raise billions of 592 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: dollars For democrats between now And. November and by the, 593 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: Way Act blues, defense one of their defense, is, well 594 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: well we we less than one percent of contributions in 595 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four were from foreign. Countries, well less than 596 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: one percent out of nineteen billion dollars is a crap 597 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: ton of. Money and it is a legal and that. 598 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: Dynamic And i'll give you some other other. Stats so 599 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: here here's Something Greg price. Tweeted with all the headwinds 600 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: facing THE, gop National democrat groups have a serious fundraising 601 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: problem going into the. Midterm THE dnc currently has more 602 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: debt than cash on, hand while THE rnc has over 603 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars on. Hand the SLF, CLF, nrcc AND, 604 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: nrsc which are all the different committees on The republican, 605 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: side all have more cash than Their democrat. Counterparts and 606 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: now this With Act, blue The democrat crown jewel of their, 607 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: fundraising the, big big political consequence If Act blue has 608 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: committed criminal conduct laundering foreign money Into american, elections and 609 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: if they actively covered it, up which is What covington 610 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: And berling suggest there's evidence, of that could be more 611 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: than sufficient for The department Of justice to SHUT A blue. 612 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: Down and if that money spigot is cut off From 613 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: democrat candidates In, november that has, massive massive consequences. 614 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: For the, area and it shuts off the foreign. Money, 615 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: right that's also the big part of. This and so 616 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: even if if they try to morph into a new, 617 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: group right people leave That. 618 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: And and by the, way, look the foreign money is 619 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: not just some hypothetical. Specter if you're the act if 620 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: you're The, chinese if you're The, russians if you're The, 621 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: iranians if you're The, venezuelans if you're The, cubans it 622 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: is objectively in your interest to Have democrats win In. 623 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: November Donald trump has made your life a living. Hell 624 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: and so you Want congress to declare war On President. 625 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: Trump you want A Democrat house And senate that impeaches the, 626 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: president that investigates the, president that prevents the president from 627 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: doing what he's done to the enemies Of. America, yeah 628 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 2: you're exactly. 629 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: Right you've been listening To verdict With Ted Cruz Ben 630 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: ferguson with. You we'll see on the podcast this. Week