1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the Almost In his podcast today 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: we have Wells Adams on. He's going to talk to 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: us about his experience on Traders. It was a brief 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: experience and I'm sure you're sad about that. And we 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: were just talking about how you know, Ben has watched 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: your episode. I haven't watched it yet, and I don't 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: haven't watched it yet because I tried to watch Peter 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: season and I was so confused by the concept. Do 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: they give you like some training on like I think 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: it's the most vague thing ever, Please please explain what 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: it works, how it works. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's based off a game that a lot, 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: like a lot of people play like at house parties 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: called Werewolf or Mafia. And yeah, it's it's a it's 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: derived from like an old Russian social experiment, Okay, And 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: the the thought is is that the the informed few 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: always will be able to be more powerful than the 20 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: uninformed masses. So it's it's a little meta, I guess. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for admitting that it is meta. 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. So the idea is is that you've got you know, 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: you go to this this castle in Scotland, and Alan Cummings, 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: who's this amazing actor, is the host of it, and 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: he's kind of the lord of the manor. And he 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: puts everyone around this big table and uh, makes everyone 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: put blindfolds on, and then you have an orgy. And 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: then after that, kid, I'm a joke, joking that didn't happen, 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: or at least what I was there gone it might 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: have had the orgy might have happened afterwards, which is 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: such a bummer. And so yeah, he chooses who the 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: traders are, and then basically the idea is is the 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: rest of the show is all the Faithfuls, the people 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: who aren't traders, are trying to figure out who the 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: traders are. 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: And if you are a trader, you're supposed to lie 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: and pretend that you're not and you're also in search. 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, and so yeah, every night the Traders 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: murder somebody, and then every day the Faithfuls try to 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: figure out who why they were murdered, and who could 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: have done it, and then they vote to say who 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: the one of the Traders is that would have murdered 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: that person. Does that make sense? 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Okay? So do the traders get together to tell Hi 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: Ben Hi Ben Ben's here. I just jumped into this. 46 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: That was cool, Okay, Okay, So when you guys do 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: the traders get together? Do they know who each other are? 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: Yes? So every night they come together in like the 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: in a turret at like the top of the castle, 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: and they talk about who they want to murder, and 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: they write it down on a piece of parchment and 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: then they murder whoever they're going to murder. And then 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: the next morning everyone comes to breakfast and then that's 54 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: when it's revealed who they murdered that night. 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: But it's all a metaphorical murder. 56 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, one actually was all obviously. 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 2: But I mean, like, so do you like sit around 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: the round table and then you go so and so 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: was murdered, but they still sit in front of us. 60 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: No, you leave, you leave the show? 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Oh they're just gone. 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah okay. 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: Well, as I have a couple questions for you that 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: I'm just curious about, and I don't want to switch 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: gears yet, but I do have a question on this 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 4: overall reality television or like stars going back onto reality television, 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: how that all works. 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: I have a theory about, uh, why. 69 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: You were eliminated, And I want to know what you 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: think to this. I think everybody there realized that you're 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: probably the only person that actually knew how to play 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: this game and knew what the show was. And I mean, 73 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: if I was on that show, I would say, let's 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: take out the strongest person first before they can kind 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: of get their grip into this experience. 76 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 5: Do you think that had any any role in you 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 5: getting eliminated? 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 3: Now? 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 5: I mean I think that. 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: I think that they probably saw me as someone who 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 3: was like not a complete idiot. 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: You know, are you insinuating that other people in the 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: house are idiots? 84 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: No, of course not. 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: No. 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: I just I mean I don't even know if I 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: was there long enough for them to like pinpoint that 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: like I'm a huge threat. You know. My my plan 89 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: going into it was to like be under the radar, 90 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: really not say much, just be kind of like likable. 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: And you know, the first mission that we go do 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: is this like kind of big dragon boat race where 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: we had to elect someone to work the rudder to 94 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: steer the boat. And so the question was posed like, 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 3: so who's like who's the best leader here, Who's you know, 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: who's smart, who can do this? And everyone like unanimously 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: chose me, and we're like five hours in to filming 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: the show, and I was like, Okay, well, I'm not 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: doing a very good job of like staying under the 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: radar because apparently they think I'm some like amazing ship captain. 101 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 3: So so I knew I immediately. I was like, Okay, 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: I think that people maybe are sensing that, like I'm 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: outspoken or somewhat of a leader. But yeah, I don't know. 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: I mean, yes and no, because the way that I 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: get banished, the last person to make the vote is 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: a trader in Carolyn, and so I do think that 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: there was some conversation of like, if we can get 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: Wells out, let's get him out now. But yeah, I 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: mean there are some other like really really cerebral players 110 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: in the game that I would be very nervous about, 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: more so than me. Like I think Dylan's very smart, 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: and I think that they surprised that they haven't tried 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: to get him out because I think that Dylan, yeah, 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: my boy, Dylan e Fron. So Yeah, No, I mean, 115 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: I uh, that's a night. That's a nice sentiment, Ben 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: to say that the reason why I'm off the show 117 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: is because I was such a threat because of my 118 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: you know. 119 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 5: Massive brain. Uh yeah, well you got something big. So 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 5: then the. 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: If you get eliminated. Now you look back, is there 122 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: any strategy that you wish you would have done differently? 123 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: Like any regrets, not from the experience, and oh I 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 4: look like this, but anything that you wish you would 125 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: have gone in doing differently. 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Alan sits you down and ask 127 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: if you want to be a trader or not. And 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: I was just really indifferent. And I think that that 129 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: was probably not a really great like strategy, but that's 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: just how I felt, and that's how I still feel. 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Like. 132 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: He was like, do you want to be a trader? 133 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: And I was like, man, if I was a trader, 134 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: I'd be good at it. Uh. If I'm not, I 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: think I'll be really good at like figuring out who 136 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: the traders are, because you know, on Paradise, my whole 137 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: job is to sit there and listen to these you 138 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: know people complain and whatever and give them advice and stuff. 139 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: So I'm usually like a good you know, judge of character. 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: And I thought I'd be able to figure out who 141 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: the traders were pretty easily. So I was just like 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: super indifferent, like I guess going back, like, I think 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: the play is to probably beg to be a trader 144 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: because at least you have you have the power to 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: not be banished so easily, you know, because you at 146 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: least have the other traders that should be on your side, 147 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: you can help like create diversions to put it on 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: other people. Whereas for my situation, I was just like 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: total sacrificial lamp. The truth of the matter is what 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: happened was they killed Derinda the night before, and everyone 151 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: thought that Dorinda was a trader, Like there was no 152 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: question in the house. We all were like, she's definitely 153 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: a trader. She was the first one to get off 154 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: the dragon boat, which means she didn't care about having immunity. 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: She comes back to the house so angry, yelling and 156 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: screaming at people. Everyone was like, this is a little much, 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's like Jesus, calm down, so you're kind 158 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: of overacting. So that night we all were like, uh, yeah, 159 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: I think that we're all going to vote for her, 160 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: right and everyone was like uh huh. And then the 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: next morning she's the one who's murdered. And so I 162 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: say the thing, which is the thing that like ultimately 163 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: gets me killed, which to to your point, maybe what 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: I would have done differently is I wouldn't have said 165 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: the thing that I said. But I was like, that 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: was a dumb move. Why would you kill someone we 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: were already going to banish in seven hours, like get 168 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: someone else out, that's a that's a bigger threat, or 169 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: to like throw you know, confusion a different way, But 170 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: why would you We were going to do the work 171 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: for you. And so I say it, and I stand 172 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: ten toes in the sand on this. I think it 173 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: was stupid. 174 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 175 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: They haven't made a whole lot of decisions the traders 176 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: that I think have been smart thus far. Now I 177 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: was the second, the second one out of that show, 178 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: so I don't know if it's about me, but uh yeah, 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that because when I said that, 180 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: people got well one person got a fend and which 181 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: is which was Robin. And she was like, I think 182 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: it was solely smart, And I was like what And 183 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: know everyone agreed with me except for her, And then 184 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: that's how she like started the campaign against me. Was 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: a trader would say that? I was like, a trader 186 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: would make fun of the decision they made. I don't 187 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: know if that's true at all. Anyways, So. 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: A lot of these reality shows are recruiting former Bachelor 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: stars and you know, the former housewives and all that. 190 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: So I was on Stars on Mars and I felt 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: like there was no producer involvement. And then those who 192 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: were on Special Forces say the same, How was that 193 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: with with your show? 194 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: Same? Yeah, it's it's such a different experience to what 195 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation feels like, where like you have a producer 196 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: that's kind of always with you and like always does 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: your interviews with you and stuff. So yeah, it's very 198 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: very hands off, which I think I think is a 199 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: testament to you know, it's it's putting a lot of 200 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: faith in just the show being good, you know, like 201 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: you're not manipulating, not changing things around. So yeah, it's 202 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: no like there's not even anyone in the room when 203 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: you're doing interviews. 204 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that was my experience. I didn't like that. I 205 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: didn't like the way that they did it because I 206 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: just didn't feel it was personal. I don't know, I 207 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: felt like I needed to have some sort of rapport 208 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: with the people that I was putting this show on. 209 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: But that was just probably because of like four seasons 210 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: of The Bachelor. 211 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and well you need the battery. You become really 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: close with those producers. Yeah. So so like. 213 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: The purpose, so you don't have you didn't have anyone 214 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: other than the cast interact with. 215 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 216 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: I have kind of a general question here before we 217 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: go back into some of the characters specifically that you 218 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: met during your time at Traders. And I do want 219 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: to say this, Jess, can I follow X The night 220 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: that you got eliminated, people were pretty upset about your elimination. 221 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: I think they were excited to watch you again on television, 222 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: kind of in your own work, like with your own personality, 223 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: doing your thing. I was obviously upset too. I don't 224 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: like that they let you go. I think it made 225 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: the show worse. But that's just my opinion. 226 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: Ratings would disagree with you. It's like the number one. 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody else characters that might be the 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: only one that's all right. 229 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: I've watched Special Forces obviously Traders is going on right now. 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: There's something I don't understand because I've not been on 231 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 4: one of these shows. 232 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 5: It feels like these reality. 233 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: Television personalities, actors, athletes, you know, people that are in 234 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: the know that come on these shows, it's very quick 235 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: for them to get into some type of character. So 236 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: on Special Forces, you see the missions being done and 237 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: contestants get out of the off the mission and they 238 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: refer to, you know, the hosts of the show as chief. 239 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's chief is what they call them, Like, yes, sir, yes, Chief, 240 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 4: Like there's a respect and it's not even doesn't feel forced, 241 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: it's it's just out of you know, respect and out 242 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 4: of respect for the show. Same thing with Traders. You 243 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: kind of get into character. You show up to this 244 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 4: house and right away you're in it, like people are acting, 245 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: people are Traders, people are you know, going along with that. 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 4: How does that happen so quickly? Is there like a 247 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: pre production, like, hey, this is who you are now 248 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: in this world? Does that just happen naturally from being 249 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: in the mansion in Scotland. I'm curious mostly asking how 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: do people get into characters so quickly without being professional actors? 251 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 252 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think anyone got into the Traders. Maybe, 253 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: but I think for the most part everyone just kind 254 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: of being undeniably themselves in terms of like having respect 255 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: for the host. It's Salin Cummings. You know, he's a 256 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: kind of a big star. Was in he was in 257 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: a Bond film that I was excited about. He was 258 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: in Annie with my wife. So yeah, maybe this was 259 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: one of my downfalls. I was just me there. I 260 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: was just doing me. I'm not a good enough actor 261 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: to like put on some big ruse for everybody. Maybe 262 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: if I had been a Trader, I would have done it. 263 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: I probably would have done the exact same thing, though, 264 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: just like because I think the second you start acting 265 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: little funny, is this second people start questioning, like, what's 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: going on? And a good example of that is with 267 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: this trader Danielle in the most recent episode that I watched, 268 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: where she starts doing things in a mission where it 269 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: makes no sense. She's not trying to save herself and 270 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: she's acting funny, and everyone's like, what is going on? 271 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the second that you start acting 272 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: a little bit different than who you are, I think 273 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 3: that's a big red flag. It's also interesting though, that 274 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 3: because this show it's an amalgamation of all these other 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: other reality shows, and it's like kind of like an 276 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: all star team of all these different really good reality 277 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: TV makers and people kind of come in there with 278 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: preconceived notions of like what these people are, and that's 279 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: what they are. Like the Housewives don't stop talking like 280 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: it is yelling and screaming and being funny and like, uh. 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: And I think one of the downfalls that I had 282 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: was Robin says something like I noticed that you started 283 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: acting a little bit different, like after this thing, and 284 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: and I was, and I know exactly what she was 285 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: talking about, like when cameras aren't rolling, like I am 286 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: not being funny, i am not talking to anybody, I'm 287 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: hanging out right, like I'm not wasting good jokes on 288 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: no cameras being on. But the Housewives they have they 289 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: could give two shots that there are cameras there. It's 290 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: just them like this all the time, which I wild 291 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: to me. So then that's the thing that you had 292 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: like kind of put into when you're judging people or 293 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: like trying to suss out people, it's like how they 294 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: are kind of in their natural habitat. And that was 295 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: a funny thing because I think that different reality TV 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: people are different. And then you have the people who 297 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: are really good at or go on the reality shows 298 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: that are games, right, survivor the Challenge big brother, and 299 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: then that's a whole thing because you're like, you're good 300 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 3: at manipulating people, whereas like the people from The Bachelor 301 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: are like good at saying you're here for the wrong reason, 302 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, like that's the only thing that we can do. 303 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's interesting to go in there, and I 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: don't think people are acting different. I think people are 305 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: just trying to figure out how people normally act when 306 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: y're there. 307 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: Very interesting, Sarah said, your wife, Sarah said that she 308 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: she said she wasn't proud of you. 309 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: That was first of all, whoever did that? Interviews I'm 310 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: annoyed with that. They asked if she was proud, and 311 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: I said, well, probably not. You know, like I'm I 312 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: want this show like like a meetly off. But I 313 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: was like, I don't think the truth of the matters. 314 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't think she cares. Really. She was just like, yeah, whatever, 315 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: you're an idiot. No, she didn't say that. That's what 316 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: I think that she probably thinks. You know, at the 317 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: end of the day, she was like, great, you're gonna 318 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: come home sooner. 319 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, it's yeah, I mean i'd be shocking. 320 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: I mean it almost be pitiful. She was proud of you, Like, well, 321 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: is this is kind of what I expected. I'm just 322 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: proud that you went like it'd be kind of like sad, like, well, 323 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: you didn't have it any other expectations for me to 324 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: be there longer. Yeah, we're proud that I showed up. 325 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: All right, Wells, you looked really good though, especially in 326 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: your pictures, your promo pictures, your video. The first episode 327 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: did a great suit on Is that a suit you 328 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: specifically chose for this moment because it felt very much 329 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: like a Trader suit? 330 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: Oh for sure. So it's so this is what sucked 331 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: about doing this show, Like a big part of it 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: is the fashion, Like it's now become a thing of 333 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: like you got to bring it like Alan kind of 334 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: sets the you know, sets the bar, and then you're 335 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: just like kind of chasing after Alan, like trying to 336 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: look good. So I got a freaking stylist. I paid 337 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: a ton of money all these looks. I got to 338 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: do one of them. 339 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 5: Dude. 340 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 3: I had so many cool things and then when what 341 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: they what I get banished in was my least favorite 342 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: look that they were like you gotta wear this one, 343 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: and I was like shakes. So yeah, I had so 344 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 3: many good I had so many good looks. I told 345 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: the stylist. I was like, I want to look you know, 346 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: like this, you know, uh, the kingsman or gentleman. I 347 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: was like, that's go find that stuff. That's what I 348 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: want to look look like. It was a lot of plaids, 349 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: a lot of tweeds, like mountains toothed. Oh, I'll tell 350 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: you what. You know, America really was robbed of just 351 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: me serving so many looks that never was seen. 352 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: Now you know what it feels like to be a 353 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: girl who's eliminated on Night one of the Bachelor. Yeah, 354 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: it's tough, disappointing. 355 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 4: Well, I want to dive in here a little bit 356 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: to some of the unique characters in this show. Tom 357 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: Sanderbal obviously has been in the headlines it felt it 358 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: feels like for years. Uh what was it like meeting Tom? 359 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 4: And did you know him before? 360 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't think i'd met him before. But it's funny. 361 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: We both have the same manager, so I'm familiar with 362 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: him and his antics and stuff, and like, you know, 363 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: I guess the headlines of Tom Sandibal, you know he was. 364 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: It's funny because he's like he's like a housewife there 365 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: he talks so much, and you're like, dude, was this 366 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: ever stop? Is ever gonna stop talking? But he was 367 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: like really wanting to figure out who the traders were. 368 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: He just wasn't very good at it, or isn't very 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: good at it now. Who knows how things will go 370 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 3: going forward. But I remember thinking like, all right, if 371 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: I'm producing this TV show, okay, these are the people 372 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 3: that I want to make traders, and these people that 373 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to make traders, and these people that 374 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: I think that could that have like the personality or 375 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 3: the backbone to do it. And I remember thinking like 376 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: it would be way too on the nose to make 377 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: like America's biggest villain a villain again, Like that makes 378 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: no sense. So I remember being like, whatever, you're not. 379 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: I know you're not a trader, dude, So like whatever, 380 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: I did that out with a lot of people, and 381 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people didn't like that. That was like 382 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: my the way that I thought I was like, I 383 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: was like singling out people who I was like, there's 384 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: no way that they'd ever be a trader, and then 385 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: like making a small pool of people who I think 386 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: were possibil these And I remember Tony who is a 387 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: homicide detective in the roundtable, which was wasn't shown, but 388 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: he gave me crap for this way of thinking, and 389 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: I was like, Tony, you're a cop, isn't like the 390 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: number one thing when a crime is committed is to 391 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: figure out who's got an alibi so they can be 392 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: out of like the investigation. What are you talking about? 393 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: And he didn't really have a very good response for that. 394 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, Tom sandivalt was. He was just kind of 395 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: everything that you would expect Tom Sandival to be. He 396 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: didn't cheat on anybody there. 397 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah. 398 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: What was your relationship with Gabby before the show? 399 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: None? I had zero relationship with Gabby because she's never 400 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: done Paradise. She never even like come on as like, 401 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: you know, like a guest host or get you know, 402 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: date host or whatever in Paradise, so I had never 403 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: met her. She was lovely. I enjoyed hanging out with 404 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: her and the Bambi's Actually you don't watch a show, 405 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: but so there's I was like, yeah, so you have 406 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: Gabby and then you have Koshelle from Selling Sunset, and 407 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: then you have Nikki Bella from like well, I think 408 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: that she's got her own reality show, but she's also 409 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: like a wrestler. Anyways, there are these like, you know, 410 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: beautiful women who have like amazing looks, and they called 411 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: themselves the Bambies and they were like best friends. And 412 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: so after the dragon boat race, I was in the 413 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: car with the Bambi's and uh, you know, there was 414 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: this whole kind of like sub storyline of toxic masculinity 415 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: because we were because of the lot. Some of the 416 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: guys are saying the girls need to get out of 417 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 3: the boat first because they weren't as strong as the guys, 418 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: and YadA, YadA, YadA. And I had offered myself up 419 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: to get out because I didn't think that that was right. 420 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: And Gabby said something to the effect of like I 421 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: knew you were an ally and I was like, yes, 422 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in with the Vanbi's and then and 423 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: I was banished and then you get kicked off but 424 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: they didn't vote for me, yeah, and then voted for me. 425 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: The there's so many questions here about what you think 426 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: happens the rest of the season, and is there anything 427 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: else you can tease about the season. My assumption is 428 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: you know very little about what happens the rest of 429 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: the season, right, sure, Yeah, Is there anything then that 430 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: you can tease about how the rest of the season 431 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 4: plays out that listeners and then viewers could get really 432 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 4: excited about. 433 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't know, I know, I have 434 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: no idea. I'm watching it now, just like with you 435 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: guys as well. I'm really interested in this season because 436 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: I've been very critical of the traders and the decisions 437 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: that they've made, but like a lot of them haven't 438 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: made a whole lot of sense to me, and I'm 439 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: interested to see, if you know, the only smart decision 440 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: I saw someone make as a trader was Rob not 441 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: putting anybody in the caskets that was a trader, which 442 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: made everyone think that there had to have been the 443 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: trader in one of those caskets. That was a good move. 444 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: Other than that, nothing has really kind of impressed me 445 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: in terms of like them manipulating the rest of the faithfuls. 446 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see if Wes is able to 447 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: get Rob out, which looks like he's trying to hone in. 448 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: They're going to have to find another trader to replace him, 449 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: and I wonder who that person is going to be, 450 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: if one, and they'll accept it, and two if they'll 451 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: start making some better decisions to kind of right the ship, 452 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: because the Trader should win this game. They have all 453 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: the information, they are able to manipulate. The Faithful have 454 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 3: no idea what's going on, and it'll be interesting to 455 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: see who does win, because right now, if I'm looking 456 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: at the show completely objectively, I'm like, the Faithfuls are 457 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: going to win this game, like the Traders making these 458 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: crazy bad decisions. So I'm hoping that they are able 459 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: to bring in a new Trader that is able to 460 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: turn the tide a little bit. 461 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: So we'd like to predict. You know, I predicted that 462 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: trust that would be the next on Special Forces, and 463 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: I want to say that I think Ben is really 464 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: going to truly be the next on Special Forces from 465 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: the Bachelor franchise, except for Jess might kill him because 466 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: it'll probably be recording when they have a newborn show. 467 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: Do not do that show I having I'm more built 468 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: for like a Traders. Traders, I don't know. 469 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: I see you in the Camo. 470 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: Oh god, that's you're gonna get hurt yourself. 471 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: Yea. 472 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: All these they're like Navy seals kicking your ass every day. 473 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: I know it's scary as heck. 474 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: There's not enough money in the world make me go 475 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: do that show. 476 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: I'm a better I'm a better version of myself when 477 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: Wells is with me, and so I would do it 478 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 4: if it was like both of us there, because then 479 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: I think we could survive. I just have this image 480 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: in my mind of us standing there at the end 481 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: getting cold water dumped over us for like eight hours straight, 482 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: being like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever done, 483 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 4: Like what, like what is happening? 484 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, don't hold your breath because I'm never gonna 485 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: do that show. So we're not doing it together. 486 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Special Forces producers hear this conversation to know that they 487 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: will not do it. I would because there is there 488 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: is enough money for me. 489 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 5: I'm not in a place to turn down money. 490 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: So I think that you should do Traders one because 491 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 3: you're such a likable, affable guy. And I just I 492 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: do think that TV is better when Bend's on it, you. 493 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, totally agree. Who do you think is gonna 494 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: be the next Traders bachel Are contestant? 495 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that'll be interesting to see. 496 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: I pitched Joey on it. He was like, I'm not 497 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: sure yet, he's like doing Dancing with the Stars. Who 498 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 3: is Well, I guess let's wait and see who's like 499 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: a big name on Grant season. 500 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: I have the perfect people. I can I answer this question, please? 501 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 502 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 4: I think it's it's Rachel Kirconnell. I think they have 503 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: to pull her on from this Matt James breakup and 504 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 4: make put her on Traders. 505 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, or you know, it'd be even better Matt put 506 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: them both on. 507 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: That sounds like a Paradise scenario. Well, speaking of Paradise, 508 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: we've heard headlines, We've read headlines. I believe at some 509 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: point in the last six months it was like mildly 510 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 4: confirmed that Paradise is coming back. 511 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: What do you know about it? Would you be a 512 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 5: part of it? Are you a part of it? 513 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 6: Well? 514 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: I know that there's a new showrunner. I did see that, 515 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 3: like that was released, So that's like, I guess that's 516 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 3: like Layman terms, like that's a new boss. So it'll 517 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: be interesting to see, like what they decide to do 518 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 3: with the show going forward. I love doing that show. 519 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: I've done you know whatever, eight seasons, nine seasons of it, 520 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: so I think it would be a huge bummer if 521 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: I wasn't a part of it, but obviously, you know, 522 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: who knows what's going to happen, Like we weren't able 523 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 3: to do it last season because they were filming Golden Bachelorette, 524 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: which was a fantastic show, don't get me wrong. But 525 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: my thought is, Paradise is such fun TV, and sometimes 526 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 3: I watch what's on TV and I'm like, I need 527 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: more fun, I need more happiness, I need more silliness, 528 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: which I think that show does a good job of. 529 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: And so I guess my thing is is like I 530 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 3: hope it comes back purely for that, whether I'm a 531 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: part of it or not, I. 532 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 5: Don't know how. 533 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: You don't have to comment on this, wells I think 534 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: Ashley and myself both agree, And I don't think this 535 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 4: is a controversial statement. 536 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 5: I'd actually say I'd. 537 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 4: Put if we put a pull out there, one hundred 538 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: percent of the people degree, I don't think it is 539 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: Paradise without you there, Like, I don't think that makes 540 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: sense to me. And when I think of Paradise, I 541 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: think of you. You're like the one person that could 542 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: never leave the beach. 543 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I'm stuck in that bar. 544 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't see it without you, Like I 545 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: don't think it's as fun and silly and sometimes emotional 546 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: and romantic without you. 547 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I think I've become 548 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: on that show. Like you know, when they did the 549 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: season of the Bachelor that wasn't at the Mansion, I 550 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: felt like that was so weird and I hated it, 551 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you got it. You can't you got 552 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: to go back there, Like that's such a main character, 553 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: Like that's such an important thing, and so yeah, I 554 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: think for Paradise, like it would be weird because like, 555 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: I've just been there for so long. I know, you 556 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: know what the pitfalls are. You know, I've seen so 557 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: many people find love, been a part of those relationships, 558 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: married some of them personally. So yeah, I agree with you. 559 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: I think it would be weird if I wasn't a 560 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: part of it. 561 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: But you know, if a showrunner wants to make their 562 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: life a little easier, like hey, I'm sure this person's 563 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: fully capable of doing the job that they've been hired 564 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: to do if they want to make their life a 565 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: little easier, and they happen to see this headline bring 566 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: in wells, he knows how this thing works. 567 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: They will get a lot of backlash if they don't 568 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: have you there. 569 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't know if they need any more 570 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: of that either. 571 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you so much. Wells. I really 572 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: think that I'm gonna watch an episode because man, so 573 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: many people are talking about this show. So if I 574 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: watch an episode, it will be yours. 575 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: It's a first of all, I want two episodes, not 576 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: just one. Oh okay, so short, all right, but not 577 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: on three on three no, no, no, no no. It is 578 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: a fantastic show. And like the second you, I think 579 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: for you like understand what's going on. Yeah, extremely hooked. 580 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, go, I really do think you'll like it. 581 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: And then also you should just be on it, like 582 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: go watch it so you can tell your agent to 583 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: be like, go get me the show. 584 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: I think that I'm very far down the totem pole. 585 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: I think that Caitlin Bristow will be issuing. Yeah, probably Joe. 586 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: She don't sell yourself, short short, we got ten years 587 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: of the almost famous podcasts come in your ways everywhere 588 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: you can listen to podcasts. Please go rate and review 589 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: us only if it's a nice thing to say. If 590 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: it's a mean thing to say, don't say it at all. Wells, 591 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: thanks for coming on the show. Until next time, I've 592 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: Been Ben. 593 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: I've Been Ashley CIA. 594 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 595 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.