1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Should my boyfriend be there for my surgery. He's too 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: scared to talk. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: To his mom about it. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: Okay, scared of pants? 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: I male twenty one and my boyfriend, male twenty seven 6 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: have been together for two years and have known each 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: other for two and a half years. We've been in 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: a long distance relationship but managed to see each other 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: a few times a year. 10 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 11 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from a Western simple thirteen 12 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: hundred on the r slash Okay storytime sepreadit. So I'm 13 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: facing a significant issue right now as I have an 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: important operation at the beginning of next month. For context, 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm transgender female to male and we'll be having a 16 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: gender affirming surgery that I've been waiting for approximately six years. 17 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: During these years, I. 18 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Came out to friends and family and went through several 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: years of therapy. Even though most of my outings went 20 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: quite well, I also had quite a bunch of outright 21 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: horrible and slightly traumatic experiences with other people that were 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: related to my gender identity, and was really thankful to 23 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: me my boyfriend who all supported me in that matter. 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: He is a really. 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: Lovely, funny and social butterfly kind of person. Even though 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: he had also had some rough things going on in 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: his past. When he was twenty years old, he met 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: his ex, and two years into the relationship, she got 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: an unplanned pregnant. 30 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: And decided to keep the baby, WHOA. 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: Shortly after they got married and now are divorced, with 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: him having full custody of their five year old child, WHOA, 33 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: who turns six shortly before my surgery. The ex has 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: visitation rights every few weeks that she usually doesn't show 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: up to and isn't really involved anymore since approximately two years. 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: The child and I have good relationship. 37 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Although I would love to bond with them more, but 38 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: it's difficult due to the. 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Distance and language barriers. Our issue that. 40 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: We have right now is that my boyfriend has trouble 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: talking to his mother, who helps him since the child 42 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: was born, babysitting when he is at work or going 43 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: on with friends because of him being a single parent 44 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: at this point. 45 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: The support is a big help and he is kind 46 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: of depending on her currently. 47 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: I told him six months ago the specifics about my 48 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: upcoming operation and expressed several times during these months about 49 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: how important this operation is for me, and then I 50 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: want him by my side on that special day. Despite 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: understanding the significance, He's been hesitant and initially said he 52 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: couldn't come because his mother needs to babysit his brother's 53 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: kids at the beginning of August. That happened because my 54 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't talk for now nearly six months about the 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: plans we were making about him coming here to be 56 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: by my side. 57 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: It didn't surprise me, to be really honest. 58 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: He usually talks about such organization stuff at the very 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: last minute with her. 60 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: What worked for him till now or when it didn't. 61 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: I accepted that he doesn't have time if his mother 62 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: said no to babysitting. His mother doesn't really like me 63 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: because she thinks I turned him gay. After her berating 64 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: my boyfriend for his ignoring his say as a parent 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: in things and overstepping boundaries that were set by him 66 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: regarding his kid and also his own life several times, 67 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: I honestly don't like her anymore and keep the contact 68 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: as minimal as possible. 69 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: Wow. That yeah, that's super hard, hard, like a complex. 70 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can't really you don't really turn people gay, Like, 71 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is not really hot words. I 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: suggested several solutions, and after many emotional discussions. 73 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: We agreed that he could come with as child. 74 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: That seems like a good Oh wow, yeah. 75 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Why can't you just come with the child? I didn't 76 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: even think of that, but that seems like such an 77 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: easy like. 78 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: He initially suggested arriving on the twenty ninth of this month, 79 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: but then hesitated. Now we're discussing the thirty first, but 80 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't decided yet. The child's birthday celebrations complicates things further. 81 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: What I didn't know initially about. 82 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Usually they celebrate on the day itself and on the 83 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: weekend afterwards in a bigger circle because the grandmother I 84 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: already mentioned and her husband also have their birthdays around 85 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: that time, and they mashed the three birthdays into one 86 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: big party for all three. Maybe I'm in the wrong 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: for that, but I didn't see an issue in that, 88 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: because the grandparents could come over on the birthday itself 89 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: and celebrate it in an even bigger. 90 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Circle after they are back from my country. 91 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: I also had some delays in my own childhood regarding that, 92 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and honestly I didn't really care much about it after 93 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: my parents told me. I also planned a small birthday 94 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: celebration here, including making a cake sewing a bag as 95 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a gift, along with visiting fun places like a huge 96 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: indoor playground that every kid loves. 97 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's cute. 98 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: That's so nice of you. 99 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: In my mind, this would be a win win situation 100 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: where his child could have even one more party and. 101 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: We could bond more before I can't walk anymore. 102 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: I would really want to show his kid around that 103 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: it has never been here before, and he would probably 104 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: love to see the city. I understand he has a 105 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: complicated relationship with his mother, but I feel like he's 106 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: risking our relationship by not addressing any kind of issue 107 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: with her. Ever, I just want him to talk to 108 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: her and me so everyone can start planning the birthday 109 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: parties and I can have some peace of mind if 110 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: he will be there on my. 111 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: Operation day or not. That's really funny, Oh, piece, Like, 112 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: can you guys. 113 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Figure out your like family's trauma situation just like yeah, 114 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: because like I gotta write it down my schedule. 115 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: I kind of figure this out. 116 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be convenient if we just do like one 117 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: big birthday, So please figure it out. This is my 118 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: first ever operation, and I'm really freaking out about it 119 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: right now. I don't care about anybody else being there 120 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: but him. I always have seen it as one of 121 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the most important parts of a romantic relationship to be 122 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: there for each other and try everything to do so. 123 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: If something is. 124 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: Important for my partner, it is also important for me, 125 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: and I want to be there for them, even if 126 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: there are a thousand. 127 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: Kilometers separating us. Wow, how far are they? 128 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: That's five hundred miles is that? 129 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. 130 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: I also planned on flying to his country for his kids' 131 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: first day of school, and already started planning presence and 132 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: organizing a few months ago. Even though it will be 133 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: in September. I would have to probably work Sundays for 134 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: three ish weeks to get the days off to spend 135 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: two of them nearly completely at the airport and spend 136 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: one with my boyfriend. 137 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: And his child. Wow, he's really putting in the work, 138 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: and in the work for sure, not. 139 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: To mention the huge financial burden that will be put 140 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: on me. I really wanted to do that, but now 141 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel really dumb because he couldn't even talk to 142 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: his mom in advance this one time, and I feel 143 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: like I'm usually the one that has to bend over 144 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: backwards to make things work. I am so done and 145 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: exhausted and honestly can't deal with. 146 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: The stress anymore. 147 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: But you know what, you never have to stress with 148 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: us because you can join us live every weekday at 149 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: three pm PSD. 150 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Just tap our profile. 151 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: Ta oh man, that's there is more. 152 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: But what do we think so far? 153 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Bro has a wet toast spine? 154 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, what toast spine? That's pretty funny. 155 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: I think the cheating. Really, I think Opie's boyfriend is cheating. Interesting, 156 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: that's it's they're far away and I don't know. I 157 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 3: understand that the boyfriend and the mom don't see eye 158 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: to eye with everything, and he has a wet toat 159 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: spine with that, Yeah, but what about the other times 160 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: I need more contest than the other times I have 161 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: trust issues? 162 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Here here's my theory. 163 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I think that Opie's boyfriend like doesn't want to tell 164 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: his mom that op is transgender. 165 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: Got it. 166 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's something like that, and it's 167 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: just a little tricky to like talk about that with 168 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the boyfriend's mom, you know what I mean, And so he's. 169 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: Kind of avoiding the whole thing. 170 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: Can I help him somehow or should he just cancel 172 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: the meaning? 173 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: To take the pressure off of him, and I can 174 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: just try to get over him not being there. What 175 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: if he does it again, if there is an emergency, 176 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: that's a good point. 177 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they can pull this so easily. 178 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're both quite anxious and could really use 179 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: some advice. 180 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: And that is the end of the story. 181 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: So I know we already talked about it a little bit, 182 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: But what final advice do we have for Opie? 183 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yolo, you live once, do what you want, 184 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: don't do what your mom wants you to do at 185 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: twenty seven. 186 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Come yeah, come on, come on, yeah, twenty seven. 187 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely a good point of like an 188 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: emergency could pop up and like you could I mean, 189 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: this is a really important surgery for op But if 190 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: it's like a really like you know, medical thing, look 191 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: where you have to do it or else you'll like 192 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: or something like that, And like what if OPI has 193 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: a birthday party he doesn't want to miss, or Opie's 194 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: boyfriend has a birthday party. 195 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to miss, you know what I mean. 196 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: I know it's not just a birthday party, but yeah. 197 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: But that is an important thing that you need your 198 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: partner to be available for. 199 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: So I'm not at the sea at the moment, and 200 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm smelling fish. 201 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: It's just fishy, fishy in here. 202 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: That's the end of that story. So we'll see you 203 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: next time. 204 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: I went to the perfect wedding with my boyfriend. Now 205 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: we're both freaking out and gave each other an ultimatum 206 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: to stay or split up. 207 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: Not an ultimatum, no. 208 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: My partner twenty seven mel and I twenty six female, 209 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: have been together for more than three years. He's not perfect, 210 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: but he is purely and genuinely good, curious about the world, honest, 211 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: very intelligent, and caring. I have no doubt that we 212 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: feel the love for each other. We went to a 213 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: friend's wedding together and honestly, the vows the couple said 214 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: were so intense and true and honest I am not speculating. 215 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: We both have known this couple and we both know 216 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: that their words are not wedding performance. They are way 217 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: too cynical to play something up for a wedding. That 218 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: is left me wondering whether I should say those things 219 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: about my significant other or anyone. It made me think, Wow, 220 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: love like that exists, where two people can really say 221 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: they want one hundred forevers with the person standing in 222 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: front of them. By the way, this comes from intern 223 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: Boy one two three on the r slash Okay storytime 224 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: subpred it. So between the wedding and now, I balded 225 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: up these feelings because I was already feeling stressed out 226 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: about my work probation. Last night we met for dinner 227 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: and we agreed that we are wondering if this relationship 228 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: is something we both want, and that we both kind 229 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: of freaked out about the wedding. Vows think that episode 230 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: of Master of None with the Italian wedding. Between the 231 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: wedding and pre dinner convo, when I was thinking about 232 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: ending things, it felt like the right call because he 233 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: stopped being super communicative and it helped me peel away. 234 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: But since, of course it turned out it was him 235 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: thinking things over too, and we both are on the 236 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: same page about the things that we are lacking, intentionality, 237 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: more spicy sleep, among over the things. I feel like 238 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: it could be worth it to give it another shot, 239 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: given we've been through so much together and we hold 240 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: each other so dearly and care deeply for each other. 241 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: And this deep care, though, turned into sprightly attraction again, 242 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: and the giddiness of the first few months. I love him, 243 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: he loves me. We are unsure if we can confidently 244 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: say we can see each other in our forevers together 245 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: right now, but we love each other, and we struggle 246 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: to envision how I can function without his presence, given 247 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: that we have grown so attached and in mesh in 248 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: each other's lives. We don't live together, but he's my 249 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: person at the moment, if that makes sense. And we 250 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: live in a huge, fast paced city, think New York 251 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: or London. Just tell us where you're from where it's 252 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: hard to make connections friends or dates. I think they 253 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: live in LA. They may never live in LA. I 254 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: feel like we have a good thing going, but I 255 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: don't know if I will ever feel anything like saying forever? 256 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Does this mean continuing is a waste of time? What 257 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: do we do? I feel scared of making the wrong choice, 258 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: especially because of my intense job, and feel like if 259 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm not with him, who's my comfort person? And I 260 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: will just be an anxious mess alone. I feel like 261 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: we can fight for this, but it's like, are we 262 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: fighting for mediocracy or were fighting for something that can 263 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: be made into a forever or a second third thing. 264 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, we haven't had it. What are your 265 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: thoughts on this? 266 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Sounds like they are really good for each other, and 267 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: it sounds like they love each other so much and 268 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: they want to be together, but it's just so hard. 269 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: To understand what forever even looks like. 270 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I have so many thoughts on this. 271 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: Number one comparison is a thief of joy. You love someone, 272 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 3: do it second thing day by day. Angie and I 273 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: talk about this a lot because sometimes we'll freak out. 274 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: We'll be like, oh, yes, what the future look like? 275 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? Oh? 276 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: My goodness, Like we both do that to one another similarities, 277 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: and we just decide to go day by day. And 278 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: there's a difference between passion and compassion. It sounds like 279 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: you have a lot of compassion for your partner. That's 280 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: a great thing. If you want more passion your relationship, 281 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: you gotta work on it. It's all about. 282 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Work, yeah, And I mean, we haven't been together for 283 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: three years, but like I so, I can't understand having 284 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more stress at that point because it's like, okay. 285 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: For years, three years, it's. 286 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Kind of like the time to like we figure this out. 287 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: And see if we want to spend all that time together. 288 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: But I don't know. 289 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: It's just it's just so hard and it's so different 290 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: for each relationship, you know, And I feel like the 291 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: most important things if you just like hanging out with 292 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: each other, and if you could see it happening long term. 293 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's already been long. 294 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Term for them, you know, so then it's like, if 295 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: you could see it happening. 296 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Then then yeah, and then I think it would be good. 297 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: But I don't like someone else's perfect or image of perfect. 298 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: Like you know, whatever they say in their vows that 299 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: might not. You don't know what happens on the seas. 300 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: You never know, Yeah, you don't know, Like how social 301 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: media is, I was fake, you never know what's actually 302 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: going on. 303 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: I do have friends, I just have it developed very 304 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: deep friendships in the city living here for the past 305 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: two years to feel like I have the adequate support 306 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: community to help me through a potential breakup. This intense update, 307 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: we're going to take a step back from the relationship. 308 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: What I want to work on it and bring the 309 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: spark back in. But he wants space to think about 310 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: whether he even wants to try with me at all, 311 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: so it wasn't just about the wedding vows for him. 312 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: I feel so heartbroken because he was bottling up a 313 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: lot of issues he felt were present but did not 314 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: tell me about it, or if he did, didn't stress 315 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: that they were make or break. I feel like these 316 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: issues were slash art, so so workable, but instead of 317 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: communicating with me about them and how important they were, 318 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: he's now pointing towards them as a sign that we 319 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: are incompatible as long term partners. I think this is 320 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: an avoidant attachment style thing. He says the relationship can 321 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: be saved, and that he loves me very much and 322 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 3: that he still is attracted to me, but he's unsure 323 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: whether he wants to work on the relationship at all, 324 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: given that we're so young. They're twenty six and twenty seven. 325 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: But I feel like with relationships that's it's not old 326 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: showing people lock it. 327 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: It's like a. 328 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Solid solid age as couldn't people get more serious? 329 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: And he's got new things going on. He just started 330 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: a PDHD and he's meeting new people, which I suspect 331 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: is making him think there is no more room for 332 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: me or our relationship in his life. In the same 333 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: way anymore, so she thinks that he's outgrowing them. Wow. 334 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: He voiced that we have jumped into serious partnership too 335 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: quickly and that he wants to have a normal twenties relationship. 336 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: In Air quotes the fact that he's thinking about our 337 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: relationship of more than three years as just something so disposable, 338 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: and that I need to be just okay with him. 339 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: Taking a step back from this kills me. In fact, 340 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: it seems irrational to me, although love and relationships never are, 341 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: since I know he wouldn't lie to me about loving 342 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: me thinking it's salvageable, or being attracted. If there's love 343 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: and hope and attraction, why not try. I think this 344 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: guy needs to make a decision and not be like yeah, 345 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: like like oh, it's like here's a caricter Oh this 346 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: could work, right? I think in my work I feel 347 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: like an idiot because I could react to all of 348 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: this in a okay if you're not one hundred percent 349 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: sure you want me the nephew and I'm leaving you 350 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: and I don't want you ten times more way. But 351 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: instead I'm approaching it in a okay. I'll take this 352 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: period with an open heart and be the best version 353 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: of your partner and hold out hope you choose me again. 354 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: By the way, you can choose us every weekday at 355 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: three pm PST, just tap our profile. Is that an 356 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: okay thought process to have? I'm gonna be okay, take 357 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: a step back. I think it's respectful. 358 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I think that's like probably harder for op to do, 359 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: but I think that's a really respectful, very mature and 360 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: kind way to go about it. Yeah, yeah, it's that 361 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: sounds very hard to do, for sure. 362 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: For sure, Like it definitely sounds a lot easier to 363 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: just be like, oh, if. 364 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: You I'm out here, like you gotta love me like 365 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm the best person in the world, or. 366 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: You're out here, you know. But but you know, that's 367 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: not always the best choice to take. 368 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: No, think it's respectful. The second option is torturous, given 369 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: that it is me holding out choosing to maybe get 370 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: seriously heart if he ends things, and also make me 371 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: feel anxious throughout the day as I am in constant 372 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: fear that he's got power to say I don't want this. 373 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: Actually I wish he'd say let's try again. Instead we 374 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: have it, and that's the end. 375 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: End. 376 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: That's the end. 377 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: Man. 378 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: Should we sit do you even like go out and 379 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: find new people they're not like separated. Well, it sounds 380 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: like he's taking a step back, just taking a step back. 381 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: But I think that kind of seems to me just 382 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: like not spending as much time together because he's focusing 383 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: on his PhD and stuff like that. 384 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's really hard. 385 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: I think Op just needs to find some hobbies and 386 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: find some things to pour into. Make some goals for 387 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: your career, you know that kind of stuff. 388 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: Find fulfillment through that too, Yeah, exactly. 389 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Find fulfillment through other things, and spend some time with 390 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: yourself and know that you can hang out with yourself 391 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: and you can be fulfilled to hanging out with yourself 392 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: just in case worst happens, you know what I mean, 393 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: just in case. 394 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: So agreed. 395 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard though. Hope you're doing okay, OPI hope 396 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: you guys are working it out. Yeah, or you're working 397 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: out myself without that, there we go, that works out too. 398 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, I broke up with my ex to chase 399 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: my dreams, but I failed, so now I want to 400 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: get back together. 401 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: You know, we're home. 402 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: Man. 403 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: This is my first post ever, and English is not 404 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: my first language, so apologies for any mistakes, no worries. 405 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: Opie. 406 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: My ex partner forty three male and I forty one female, 407 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: met each other three years ago and have dated for 408 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: almost two We have from the beginning been a long 409 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: distance relationship. I met him on Tinder and in our 410 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: first date, the second phrase after nice to meet you was. 411 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm leaving this town soon. 412 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: The very next day, I was driving to the place 413 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: that ended up being my home for two and a 414 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: half years to have an interview for a job. We 415 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: kept on dating and having a great time, knowing that 416 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: I was moving two hours. 417 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: Away from where he lives. And by the way, this 418 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: is directly from our subreddit, so it's. 419 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: One of our own, our family member, our family member, 420 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: our kin. 421 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: This is our kin in here. 422 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Louis five on the 423 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: ur slash okay stort time supreddit. So I never thought 424 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: we had a future together. But when everything was ready 425 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: for me to move, he told me, don't you think 426 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: that you'll get rid of me that easy? And less 427 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: than two months since our first date, he was helping 428 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: me move up to this tiny but beautiful town up north. 429 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: Things were great for almost two years. He is the 430 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: best relationship I've ever had. Traveling for two hours every 431 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: now and then to see each other for maybe two 432 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: days was. 433 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: Completely worth it. 434 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I was enjoying my new job as I was also 435 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: building my chances to pursue a stargazer career in the 436 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: same company. I was living my dream life for the 437 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: first time in years. The chances of getting closer to 438 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: one of my childhood dreams was perfect. The first one 439 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: and a half years, I couldn't change teams due to 440 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: the lack of staff in the restaurant where I was 441 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: the duty manager, but working in afternoon and night hours, 442 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: it gave me the chance of studying animation online and 443 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: getting a degree in this country that I'm calling home now. 444 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three was hardier, trying to keep up with work, studying. 445 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: And making time to see my partner. 446 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 1: While I was trying to keep up with all of that, 447 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: my brain started to arrange plans for the future because. 448 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: Doing all the things I was doing was not enough. 449 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: At midyear, I came up with the brilliant idea of 450 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: moving to the capital city in twenty twenty four to 451 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: chase opportunities as an animator or to develop my artistic skills. 452 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: I have a degree in fine arts from back home. 453 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: This city is more than. 454 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: Fifteen hours away driving, including a ferry, and here is 455 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: where things start to go a bit staff. He has 456 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: two boys, years five and three at the time that 457 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: we met, and I adore them both. Even when I 458 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: decided to not have my own kids, I enjoyed being 459 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: around them. I love to be around kids. I have 460 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: six nibblings. Kids allow me to be the child that 461 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: I am still in my forties. 462 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: That's sweet. 463 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Him having kids means that he is not able to 464 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: move around the country and be as care free as 465 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: I am. And that was something that I knew from 466 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: the beginning, as same as he knew he was dating 467 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: someone who has decided to chase dreams and opportunities as 468 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: they arise. I was very upfront from the start that 469 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't moving to his city. There was nothing for 470 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: me them other than him. I am very sure. I 471 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: heard him a couple of times when friends of his 472 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: asked me when we were moving in together, and I 473 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: bluntly stated that I. 474 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: Was never moving to a city. Oh man, dang, I 475 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: gotta hear say that. 476 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: That is tough. 477 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: I gotta say that in a right way. 478 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I know it sounds rough when I put it that way, 479 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: but we had a very deep and rough talk about this. 480 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: I spent my entire life giving up my dreams for others. 481 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: My last relationship before him left me after seven years. 482 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: When I decided to stay in this country for him, 483 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get back home and be around my 484 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: family and friends. I ended up working for myself for 485 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: one and a half years, which is the roughest one 486 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: of my life, and I met him. In this time, 487 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: I learned to put myself first. I understood that partnership, friendship, 488 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: and family are important, but me and my dreams have 489 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: to come first. Because every time I put others' needs 490 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: before mine, I ended up hurting myself and worst of all, 491 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: blaming others for that. 492 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: When I was the one making that choice. 493 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: I learned to. 494 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: Be honest with me and others. I understood that to 495 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: be able to have a happy and fulfilling relationship, you 496 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: need to be honest about what you can give and 497 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: also know that and understand what your partner is able 498 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: to give. 499 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: That's it sounds like they learned a lot of great. 500 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: Lessons, even know the process wasn't very good, but yeah, 501 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: he got there eventually. To make my already long story 502 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: a bit shorter, we both put all the cards on 503 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: the table about what we wanted for the future. I 504 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: wanted to try my luck in the big city and 505 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: work as an artist. Go you, and at the beginning 506 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: he told me he was happy to try an even 507 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: longer distance relationship, and I was hesitant but happy to 508 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: give it a try. All changed in one weekend in September. 509 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: I was so sick and finally decided to take some 510 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: time off, something I was not able to do because 511 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I was the only duty manager in the restaurant. I 512 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: told him that I was not going to work for 513 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: five straight days and that I could go to his house. 514 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: He has the kids on that weekend, so he could 515 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: not visit me. He was happy to have me there, 516 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: even though he knew that I would probably be in 517 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: bed all the time. After that weekend, I noticed a 518 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: shift in him. I am very vocal and. 519 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: He is more of the quiet. 520 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: And he is great with communicating, but sometimes I have 521 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: to press him to talk. 522 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: We were video calling and I have asked him a 523 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: couple of times about his week and what he was 524 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: up to. 525 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: In more than an hour. In more than an hour. 526 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: Long talk, he kept repeating that he has nothing to 527 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: say until he finally dropped the bomb. He has realized 528 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: after that weekend that he wanted to live with me 529 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: full time. 530 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: Oh wow, with you. 531 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: That's cool. 532 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Whoa, that's cool that As horrible as it sounds his words, 533 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: having me sick and being able to take care of 534 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: me has made him realize that seeing each other two 535 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: days every other week was not enough for him. We 536 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: ended up having our first fight. WHOA, but this sounds 537 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: so sweet. Though it sounds like such nice. 538 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: Things, she may feel like she's having to give up 539 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: more of herself. 540 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, after some more talking over time, we both have 541 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: to accept that our plans for life were not aligned. 542 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: Sometimes love is not enough. 543 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: And as sad as it was when we ended our relationship, 544 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: this happened bit more than a year ago. Twenty twenty 545 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: four has started and gone in the blink of an eye. 546 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: I went back home to my country to take a 547 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: good break and to see my family and friends. I've 548 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: been there for a year for a short time after 549 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: missing them for more than four years, So this time 550 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: I took a couple of months to enjoy them. I 551 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: wanted to take my mom to Europe, probably the last 552 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: trip I will have with her, and use the break 553 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: to come back strong and plan my move to the 554 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: big city. My trip came and went. I arrived to 555 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: this country again and started to organize my moving. 556 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: What I thought would. 557 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: Take me weeks ended up being months of looking for 558 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: jobs and getting rejected. After three months of that dance, 559 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: I decided to move in anyways, I have landed a 560 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: casual job, and I was sure I could find something 561 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: else once I move. I've been living here for two months, 562 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: and a couple of weeks ago decided to go back 563 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: to the tiny town I used to live in. My 564 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: dreams of making it in the big city have rushed 565 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: me so bad. Nothing went as planned, and I cannot 566 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: keep on waiting on answers from jobs because I'm out 567 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: of money. I am a complete mess emotionally and financially, 568 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: feeling like a failure with no one here to cry too. 569 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh it was so tough. 570 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 571 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Weeks after I moved in, my ex contacted to check 572 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: on me. 573 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: We have been texting in the last year to catch 574 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: up from time to time, always keeping boundaries in place. 575 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: I put him up to speed that things were not 576 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: going great here, but I was giving it a try. 577 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: Maybe a week after I told him that things got 578 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: more complicated here and then I was thinking of going 579 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: back to the town I was living in Before we 580 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: ended up doing a video call. It was the first 581 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: time in a year that we saw each other again. Wow, 582 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: that's such a long time. After that, we have been 583 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: talking every other day. He has been a great company 584 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: in this process. Two days ago he asked me if 585 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: we can talk about us again. My response was that 586 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I needed to be in a better place to think 587 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: about us getting back together. On one hand, I do 588 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: not want to go back to running to him because 589 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: I am in a bad place. I am of the 590 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: belief that if someone is in your life, they are 591 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: there to add happiness and not. 592 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: To make you happy. 593 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that just as a little extra. You 594 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: should be happy on your own before entering a relationship. 595 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise you are making the other person responsible for you, 596 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: and that is very selfish. By the way, we can 597 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: always add happiness into your life if you just join 598 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: us live every weekday three pm PSD. 599 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: Just top our profile. Boom boom so easy so and 600 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: there's more to the story. But I let's discuss this 601 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: so far. 602 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: Some people can handle long distance relationships, some people can't. Yeah, 603 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: this sounds like a common way. 604 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: That's just so so sad for OPI like having those 605 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: dreams crushed. 606 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: I am one with lots. 607 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Of dreams myself, and that would just like be so 608 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: sad if just you were trying so hard to do 609 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: everything you could and just like nothing was working. Like 610 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I know that there's such a mindset around it, like 611 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: you know, don't give up, it's just drown the corner. 612 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: But like that might be true, but doing it is 613 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: so hard. But in the other hand, I just want 614 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: to be selfish and run to him right now. I've 615 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: been crying in my room in the last few days, 616 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: trying to pack up my life and not feel like 617 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: a failure for tasting my dreams that has taken me 618 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: to a financial ruin. 619 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: I am trying to be an adult. 620 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: But I have called him again yesterday and we have 621 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: been texting like before when we were dating all day today. 622 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: So here is where I am writing this long story 623 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: to ask strangers what to do. I will be moving 624 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: back closer to him in a few days, and all 625 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: I want to do is run into his arms, and 626 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: all I want is for him to rescue me. 627 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: This is literally a MP. 628 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: It really is. 629 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: This is so cute, but I know I am not 630 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: able to give him the life that he wants. I 631 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: can't settle down in a place that it has nothing 632 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: to offer me. And I know that even though the 633 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: city hasn't worked this time, I will try again in 634 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: the future. I'm divided in half and I do not 635 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: want to be so selfish, but at the same time, 636 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I still love him. 637 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: So much it's tough. I actually just run back to him, 638 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: see if you'll take you, and he checked up on you. 639 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: I think he still has a lot of feelings for you. 640 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 641 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: I think she knows that he will take her back 642 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: if she does run into him, but then that might 643 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: mean that she doesn't get to live out her dream. 644 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: I think you can still figure out your dreams. 645 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 2: I think you totally can. 646 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't like being around people with small minds or 647 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: being like you can only do this, or your only 648 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: way to live life is this way. 649 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: The limits. 650 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, with the limits, there's tons of different ways you 651 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 3: can live out your dream. Yeah, you can explore that. 652 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: I think you can explore that and also be with 653 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: a love of your life. 654 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: I left when I realized our marriage was over. It 655 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: took her ten days to notice. 656 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's better late than ever. 657 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 4: I will notice my husband is missing in seven to 658 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: ten business. 659 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 5: Days T minus nine days. 660 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: I'm male thirty five was married to my wife, female 661 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: thirty five for eight years. I left her five years ago. 662 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: We are child free by choice, which was also her choice. 663 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: I had always said we had a good relationship and marriage, 664 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: but looking back, I see that it was good for her. 665 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: By the way. This comes from user humble driver thirty 666 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: six ninety six on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. 667 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 4: So here is my story. I've always been the nerdy type, smart, 668 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: good grades, but never popular. I'm from a very well 669 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: off family due to my grandparents inheritance and some smart 670 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: and investments that my parents did. I didn't have to 671 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: go to college or work and still have a comfortable life, 672 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 4: but I love what I did. I met my wife 673 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 4: my first year in college. She was in my class 674 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: and was looking for a tutor. She was a scholarship kid. 675 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: We spent more and more time together, but never on 676 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: the weekend. I wasn't the outgoing type, and she would 677 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: still go out on the weekends. But after a long 678 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: while we did start going on dates, and after I graduated, 679 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: we got married. Looking back, she started making decisions for 680 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: us as soon as we got together. My wife worked 681 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: the first half of our marriage, and when her company downsized, 682 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: she got laid off. She became a stay at home 683 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: wife who was not at home that much. She had friends, 684 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: she took trips with, had a litany of lunches and 685 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: dinners with her friends, basically spent my money on her 686 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: well off lifestyle. Well, I remember our love life being 687 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: passionate in the beginning, and let me just say that 688 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: is only a memory. When I was twenty nine, I 689 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: was involved in a car crash. They say a drunk 690 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 4: driver totaled my car, but I still have no memory 691 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: of that day. WHOA the twists and turns. This story's 692 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: taking already. I was in a coma for two weeks. 693 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: After waking up, I had to learn to do a 694 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: lot again. After four months, I went back to work. 695 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 4: When I came back home, my wife put me in 696 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: the spare room. She said it had been like that 697 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: a while because I was snoring. Your wife doesn't sound 698 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: like she cares you were in a coma, dude. I 699 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: kept my mouth shut, but I knew that this was new. 700 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: The accident somehow gave me clarity of mind. I could 701 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: see that the marriage has been over for a while, 702 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: but I still wanted to see if I could save it. 703 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: But everything I tried failed. What sealed the deal for 704 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: me was my thirtieth birthday. I came home and she 705 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: was not home. She was having a spad with her friends. 706 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: I ordered takeout, why a movie, and made a decision 707 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: I wanted out. 708 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 5: Okay. 709 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: The next morning, I went to my lawyer to start 710 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: drafting divorce papers. I stopped engaging with her unless absolutely necessary. Slowly, 711 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: I started selling anything that had any emotional value to me. 712 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: I left all her stuff for her. I bought a 713 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: new car and left it at a parking garage not 714 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: so far from our home. One month later, all I 715 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: had left were my clothes and a couple of laptops, 716 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: a projector and a portable screen, everything I needed to 717 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: work from the road. I didn't quit my job. I 718 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: arranged for it to be completely remote. Two months after 719 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: my birthday, I stayed while my wife was at just 720 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 4: another lunch with her girls. I took the new car, 721 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: packed everything I needed in it, and left the divorce 722 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: papers and a letter on my bed in the spare room, 723 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: and closed the door to my house for the last time. 724 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: Wondering how long it would take for her to notice. 725 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: I decided to drive cross country and visit every place 726 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to go but couldn't because my wife didn't 727 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: want to. We had a prenup, so she had no 728 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: rights to ask for anything. In the letter, I explained, 729 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: I told her I was leaving and I would leave 730 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: her the house and the car and would pay a 731 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: sum every month because exactly a year after that she 732 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: was on her own. In my own stupidity, I forgot 733 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: to mention why I was leaving. But this would work 734 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: in my favor. I gotta say I'm not a huge 735 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: fan of the technique herop. 736 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 5: I don't like either of this from both ends. It 737 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: sounds like your wife. 738 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: Sunks, but it also sounds like you are really really 739 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: not good at confrontation, not gonna lie. 740 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: What's the word Dakota here? That's missing? What communication? 741 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: Imagine just having the hard talk with your wife instead 742 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: of doing this. But who knows, Maybe it works out. 743 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: In his favor. We don't know yet. 744 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 5: I mean, he's going cross country by himself, having the 745 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: time of his life. As looks like I would hope so, 746 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 5: but let's keep going. 747 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: Ten days after I left, I got a text from 748 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 4: my wife asking me where I was and if this 749 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: was a joke. She called me, but I didn't pick up. 750 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: I never pick up the phone while driving. I had 751 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 4: an automated text sent that said I'm driving and we'll 752 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: call back later. She sent me text after text after text. 753 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 4: That night. I stopped in a motel and decided to 754 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: read the text before calling her back. First, she was 755 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: asking if this was a joke, then asking when I 756 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 4: would come back, then begging me to come back, not 757 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: knowing why I left, And then she said something she 758 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: was sorry and it didn't mean anything, and she would 759 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: cut him off. She was having an affair, something I 760 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: never suspected. 761 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: I was like, who's him? I was like, she can't 762 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: cut off? Ope, Ophie cut her off. 763 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: Technically good news, because hey, as if you needed another reason, yeah, 764 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 4: you already had. 765 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 5: You're like, oh, I don't need a like this was Wow, 766 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: that's a curve ball that came out of nowhere. 767 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: I called her cell phone and she was at her parents, 768 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 4: which I learned this tactic from TV. She started yelling 769 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: at me and I hung up. I waited one minute 770 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: and called back. She started yelling again, and I hung 771 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: up again. I waited two minutes and called back again. 772 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: This time she wasn't yelling, and I started talking. He's 773 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: got a secret technique. Pay attention, He's got a secret technique. 774 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: I told her that she was going to let me 775 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: talk first, and after I said what I needed to say, 776 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: then she could ask questions. I told her why I left. 777 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: We were married, but living like roommates, not even roommates, 778 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 4: because they at least acknowledge each other. I don't remember 779 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: the last time we even had a conversation, the last 780 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: time that we did something together. I didn't remember the 781 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: last time we had this spicy sleep, but I know 782 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: it was from before my accident, and I told her 783 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: that for a month before leaving, I stopped talking and 784 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: sold everything I had in the house, and she didn't 785 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: even notice that. It took her ten days after I 786 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: left before she even noticed I was gone. If she 787 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: had called me on the day I left, I would 788 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: have turned around immediately. I ended with thank you for 789 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: admitting to that I really didn't know about it. Oh, 790 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: he's like, well, good riddance, yes, perfect. She tried to apologize, 791 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: and when she asked me to come back, I asked 792 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: her why. If she could explain to me why I 793 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: would consider it, what was in it for me? What 794 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 4: was gonna change? She had no answer, so I said 795 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: goodbye and then told her my lawyer will know how 796 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 4: to contact her. I then blocked her. The next day, 797 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: I bought a new phone with a new number and 798 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 4: left the old one in the motel. Two weeks later, 799 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: I got an email from my lawyer saying the divorce 800 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: papers were signed. I was free. I kept my word. 801 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: My lawyer already had all documents signed by me that 802 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 4: would transfer ownership of the house and the cars to her. 803 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: The bank automatically deposits a fixed amount to our shared 804 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: account every month for a year. Where we are now. 805 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 4: For the past five years, I've been driving across the country, 806 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 4: working remotely, and I finally had a reason to start 807 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: social media five year updates. 808 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 5: I want to know your adventures. I don't know about 809 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 5: your ex wife anymore. I want to know about you, man. 810 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: I posted online where I've been and where I'm going. 811 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: I stay in a place for a couple of weeks 812 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: and then I drive to the next My ex wife 813 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: started following me on Instagram a year after I left, 814 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: and out of curiosity, I looked at her public posts. 815 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 4: I'm not planning on following her back. She posted pics 816 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 4: with her boyfriend soon after I left. To her credit, 817 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 4: she didn't bad mouth me, at least not on Instagram. 818 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 4: Two months after I left, they apparently broke up. That 819 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: was the last time I really had an update on her. 820 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 4: I also have a spicy sleep life now. Once I 821 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: put myself out there, it turned out to be easier 822 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 4: to have casual, spicy sleep, no committed relationship. 823 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 5: Look at this guy. 824 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 4: Look at this guy living his best life. I'm driving 825 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: around the country, best dream, not married to a terrible 826 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: ex wife cheating on him. 827 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 5: Oh he's happy. You can tell he could just from 828 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: writing this. You can tell he's like smiling. 829 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 4: Now after years, I'm going back to my hometown. There's 830 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 4: a reunion I want to attend. I'm staying for a month, 831 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 4: maybe two, and then I'm going to Canada, and I 832 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: have no plans of looking up my ex. But I 833 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 4: will also not actively avoid her. If I see her, 834 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 4: I'll see her. If I don't, I don't And there's 835 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: a Q and a update right after that. Yeah, you 836 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: in the back. How many times do you think I've 837 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 4: done it in the last year, the last five years? 838 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: The answer will shock you. I hope that there's probably 839 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: more to op it than that, but I do think 840 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 4: it was really funny. 841 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: He's like and by the way, I have a spicy sleeplight. 842 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 5: Thanks for asking. 843 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 4: So here's the update. A few things that were already 844 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: answered in the comments. So people have asked me and 845 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: even braided me for leaving her the house. The answer 846 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: is actually extremely simple. I wanted to leave. I made 847 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: up my mind that I was going to travel and 848 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: I didn't want anything trying me down. Selling the house 849 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: would have taken too long. Leaving it to her was 850 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: the fastest option. Additionally, my conscience wouldn't have allowed it. 851 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 4: She might not be a good person, but I try 852 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 4: to be one. Leaving her homeless would have weighed heavily 853 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: on me. Remember, there's a reason I married her, because 854 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 4: I did love her at one time. There are people 855 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 4: who think this is fake because I was traveling during 856 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 4: COVID the answer is not that simple, but it could 857 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 4: be summed up in two words carefully and not so legally. 858 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 5: My guy is a rock star, right. Is he a 859 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 5: good communicating rockstar. No, but he's a rock star in 860 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 5: his own mindset. 861 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would do things exactly like 862 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 4: op so key. I think after he went into a coma, 863 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 4: he might have just had like a huge personality switch up. 864 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 4: I mean he said after the accident, like he became 865 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 4: so clear. He's like, you know what, she can have 866 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 4: the cars, she can have the house. I'm just gonna 867 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 4: drive around. 868 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: Maybe it was just like, oh, I had I just 869 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 5: gotten a huge accident, got out of a coma, and 870 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 5: my wife doesn't eve want to talk to me. That's 871 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: the biggest slap in the face where he's like, oh, 872 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 5: that's what's missing about my work. 873 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 4: I've been working remotely for the past five years. Three 874 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: years ago I switched jobs to a new company in 875 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: position which is still remote. There was never a necessity 876 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 4: to come into an office. I've invested in a satellite 877 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: internet connection, yes, provided by the company. Now I have 878 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 4: high speed internet everywhere I go. I have KPIs, which 879 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: is key perform woman's indexes that I need to reach 880 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 4: every two weeks. I can set my own working hours 881 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 4: as long as I meet the KPIs about Canada. I'm 882 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 4: not migrating to Canada, just visiting. I visit one place 883 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 4: for a few weeks and then move to the next 884 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 4: and repeat. People have been asking for my social media 885 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 4: and I'm not going to share it. I came to 886 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 4: Reddit for the anonymity. I still have a lot of 887 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: people I know who don't need to hear the story. 888 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 4: My social media has been private for a couple of 889 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: years now. Only extended friends and family are my followers. 890 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: When my ex wife started following me, I didn't know 891 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: much about the privacy settings back then. I do now 892 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 4: and I never bothered to remove her as a follower. 893 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 4: But you know who will never remove you as a 894 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 4: follower us When you. 895 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 6: Join on live stream at three PMPST every weekday on YouTube, 896 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 6: on Facebook, on TikTok, on Twitch, all you gotta do 897 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 6: is tap our profile and we might even be live 898 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 6: right now. 899 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: But before you check on that, how do we feel 900 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 4: about Rockstar Man? I mean, I know you think he's rockstar, 901 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 4: but like. 902 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 5: I think the way he handled it in his mindset 903 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 5: was probably the best way he could handle it. He's like, 904 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 5: I don't she's not here, she's out gallivanting with who knows. 905 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 5: And he was just like, there's no point, like the 906 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 5: divorce papers are there, Keep the house, keep the cars. 907 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: I'm out. He should have done something and communicated a 908 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 5: lot better. 909 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: You should not do that. If your wife cheats on you, 910 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: you don't give her the house and the cars. 911 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, she doesn't deserve it, but. 912 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 4: You also don't necessarily. That doesn't mean that you're going 913 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 4: to make her homeless. Don't give her all of your property. 914 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 5: Man. I bet she just scoffed. She's like, Okay, I 915 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: get the house, I get the cars, and bye. By 916 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 5: a husband that I don't talk too that I already 917 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 5: cheat on, I think for him, seriously, this was just 918 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 5: like a clear my hands. Literally, he's like, gone with 919 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 5: the wind. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, go be free. 920 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 4: It was very into the world, just straight up like, 921 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 4: no possessions, I'm just going to wander the earth. 922 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 6: Now. 923 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 4: I don't think I would be at peace knowing that 924 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 4: my adulterous ex wife had the house. About the divorce 925 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: being smooth, Listen when I say she signed the papers, 926 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 4: that didn't mean everything was set and done. I said 927 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: I'm free because I felt free. The divorce proceedings still 928 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: took some time, and when you have a good lawyer 929 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 4: and your traveling court, sessions can be done over zoom. 930 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 4: While it was relatively fast, it certainly wasn't two weeks. 931 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 4: So her signing the papers was the moment I felt free, 932 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 4: not the divorce being finalized. This is real, this is 933 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 4: how my life changed. But I can't force people to 934 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 4: believe it. So those of you who want to believe 935 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 4: it's fiction, I hope you enjoyed the read p has. 936 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 4: Some people made some Jack Reacher comparisons. I just found 937 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 4: out that there's a TV show and I only knew 938 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 4: the movies. Looks like I've got two seasons to catch 939 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 4: up on. We just shouted out Jack Reacher. Yeah but 940 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 4: that is the end of that story. 941 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 5: Seems like an actual like book or. 942 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like crap. He has several more 943 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 4: stories to tell. 944 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 5: Oh, he has so many stories. I really want to 945 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 5: know these novel stories. 946 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 4: I learned about my wife's pregnancy through social media. I 947 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 4: should have been the first one to know. 948 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 5: I guess you aren't in her fase five maybe six, 949 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 5: I don't know. 950 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 4: I am twenty nine and she's twenty seven. We've been 951 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 4: together for four years, married for two both from the 952 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 4: same hometown but currently living in a different city. She's 953 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: at our hometown for a family event and I stayed 954 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 4: back due to work. We've been trying to get pregnant 955 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 4: for three months and now it's happened. The problem is 956 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 4: the way I found out about it. By the way, 957 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: this comes from users sad hub Ta on the r 958 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 4: slash Okay storytime subburn. So my friend congratulated me by 959 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 4: posting a screenshot in our group chat, a screenshot of 960 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: an Instagram story posted by one of my wife's friends. 961 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 4: The post was my wife crying and hugging some of 962 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 4: her friends, with the caption you are going to be 963 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: the best mom. So it wasn't even her, it was 964 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: her friends. 965 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're mad she told. 966 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 4: Her friends before you. I called her right away and 967 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 4: she answered pretty quickly, saying, I have newsbabe. All I 968 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 4: said was I know, Oh, you're pregnant. She replied, wow, babe, 969 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 4: how did you know? I just said, I saw it 970 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 4: on instant didn't think to call me first. Huh, she said, what, 971 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,959 Speaker 4: I didn't post anything. I responded, yeah, but your friends did. 972 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 4: That's one way to find out. I'm going to be 973 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 4: a dad. Thanks, and I hung up. Oh dude, I 974 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: was furious. She kept calling me and I didn't answer 975 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 4: until my sister called. Shortly after. My sister asked me 976 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: what was going on because she'd just arrived at my 977 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: in law's house and everyone was freaking out fighting and 978 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 4: my wife was locked up in her room. I told 979 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 4: her what happened, and she said there's no way she 980 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 4: would do that. I replied, well she did. My sister 981 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 4: said she was going to find out what was going 982 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 4: on a little later, my sister called me back and 983 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 4: explained everything. At that point, I'd calm down, thinking it 984 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 4: was just a crappy friend who decided to post without permission, 985 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 4: but my sister filled me in on the details. My 986 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 4: wife was laid on her period and while hanging out 987 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 4: with a friend, they thought what if you're already pray, 988 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 4: so they bought a bunch of pregnancy tests, all of 989 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 4: which came out positive. They freaked out, told her parents, 990 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 4: and then texted some friends in town to come over. 991 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 4: From the time she found out to the time her 992 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 4: friend posted on Instagram, only two hours had passed. My 993 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 4: wife told at least ten people before telling me. For 994 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 4: the record, my sister told me that the argument going 995 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: on when she arrived was because the other friends were 996 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: upset with the one who posted on Instagram. Apparently they 997 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 4: all thought it was a crappy thing to do and 998 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: were mad at her, But they also couldn't understand why 999 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 4: my wife hadn't told me sooner. I finally called my 1000 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 4: wife and she was crying. She apologized and said she'd 1001 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 4: been planning to surprise me. I was skeptical and pointed 1002 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 4: out that if she'd really wanted to surprise me, she 1003 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't have been ready to tell me right when I called. 1004 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 4: She went silent and I told her I needed some 1005 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 4: time to think. She yelled, saying I couldn't just walk 1006 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 4: away and that we needed to talk about it. I replied, 1007 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 4: why do we need to talk so you can lie again? 1008 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 4: And I hung up. Oh brother, evidence that she's even 1009 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: lying right now? 1010 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 5: Oh brother, why are you such a big baby? The 1011 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 5: fact that you haven't congratulated your wife that she's pregnant 1012 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 5: with your child, you are already attacking her. Not a 1013 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 5: good sign. 1014 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: Very very bad. 1015 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 4: A ton of people have been messaging me, but I'm 1016 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 4: honestly exhausted. I don't know why, but this has drained me. Yeah. Well, 1017 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like your pregnant or anything. Right. 1018 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: I've cried randomly, which is unusual for me. I'm not 1019 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: a crier. This isn't supposed to be a huge deal, 1020 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 4: but it feels like I've been hit by a truck. 1021 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 4: My sister sent me a message that really stuck. Hey, 1022 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 4: I know this sucks, and it was crappy of her, 1023 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 4: but don't let this ruin it for you. You're going 1024 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: to be a dad. You're going to be an amazing dad. 1025 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: I really don't like the way that you've handled this 1026 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: in any way, shape or form. 1027 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 5: Emotions have been tempered and flared. I'm just saying like, 1028 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 5: once Opie gets a cool head on, I'm sure he's 1029 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 5: really stick. 1030 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 4: Hear it, everyone, Opie sounds like the guy who would 1031 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 4: never let this go. The only thing keeping me going 1032 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 4: right now is knowing that I'm going to be a dad. 1033 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 4: I've dreamed of this, and all I hope is that 1034 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 4: the baby is I'll probably swallow my pride and pretend 1035 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: I'm fine just to avoid making my wife too emotional 1036 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 4: during the pregnancy. But I'll do that tomorrow. Tonight, I'll 1037 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 4: just sulk. Yeah, I don't like this guy. And you 1038 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 4: know what, your sister shouldn't have been like, don't let 1039 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 4: this ruin it for you, like you're gonna be a dad. 1040 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 4: Your sisters should have been like, wake up, idiot, your 1041 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 4: wife is pregnant and you're mad at her now right. 1042 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: Now, when she did nothing. 1043 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 4: He's acting like she posted like a private story that 1044 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 4: everyone but him could see. 1045 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, even all the friends were mad at that one 1046 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 5: friend who posted it is because guess what they were 1047 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 5: excited for her. 1048 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 4: You think the friends are mad at her, Oh wait 1049 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 4: until you see how mad they're gonna be at you, buddy. Edit. 1050 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 4: I posted this into the Reddit void, thinking nothing of it, 1051 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 4: and woke up to thousands of comments and dozens of dms. 1052 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: Holy crap, thank you so much for caring. Just to 1053 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 4: clarify a couple of things. Do I think the baby 1054 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 4: might not be mine? Classic reddit loll No chance she cheated. 1055 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 4: She works from home and we have home security cameras 1056 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 4: inside the house, so that's not happening in our house. 1057 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 4: She does not do girls' nights. Her best friend in 1058 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 4: the city we live in is a female coworker of mine, 1059 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 4: and we hang out the three of us very often. 1060 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: They text each other a lot, but almost never hang 1061 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 4: out one on one. If they do, it's at our 1062 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 4: house with me in the next room. Also, my wife 1063 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 4: is the clingiest person alive. Like, when I'm at work, 1064 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 4: she texts me every thirty minutes, and when I'm at home, 1065 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 4: she's always at least in the same room I'm in. 1066 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 4: If she isn't cuddling up to me, Hey, buddy, that's 1067 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 4: not the clingiest person alive. It's just someone who likes you. 1068 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 4: You idiot. Oh pee, what is up with your point 1069 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 4: of view? 1070 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 5: Kind of gross right now? You're getting the ick from you. 1071 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm disgusted. When we're out, she's always holding my arm 1072 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 4: in my hand and literally does not leave my side. 1073 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 4: I honestly actually love it most of the time. I 1074 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 4: feel loved, but it is too much sometimes, and we 1075 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: had to fight about it weeks ago. 1076 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 5: You had to fight about being in love too much, 1077 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 5: having too much love, bro, People would do anything for that. 1078 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: I even questioned if this fight was the reason she 1079 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 4: didn't tell me right away. Oh my god, but it's 1080 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 4: probably not it. You know who's really not it? You, buddy? 1081 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: What are you doing on her friends? They are all 1082 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 4: very nice people. I've known them for a long time now. 1083 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 4: My sister is part of the friend group, and some 1084 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 4: of them have been friends since they were like twelve. 1085 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: My wife is the only one that lives in a 1086 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 4: different city, so they always hang out a lot when 1087 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 4: she's in town. I cannot emphasize enough how out of 1088 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 4: character this whole situation is for her. It's not her fault. God, Dan, 1089 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 4: she has many flaws like every other person, but being 1090 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,720 Speaker 4: inconsiderate is not one of them. You have the nerve 1091 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 4: to say that your wife is being inconsiderate when you 1092 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 4: literally didn't even congratulate her because you personally felt slighted 1093 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 4: and you were ignoring her on purpose when she's trying 1094 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: to talk to you. Dude, get this guy out of 1095 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 4: my solar system. I don't even want to be in 1096 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 4: the same universe. That's why I woke up in the 1097 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 4: middle of the night with a feeling like I'm actually 1098 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 4: completely wrong on this because she would not do this 1099 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 4: on purpose, There's no way. So I sent her a 1100 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 4: text just saying that everything is fine and that I'll 1101 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 4: drive the four hours down there to talk. She was 1102 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: actually away and asked if she could call. She did 1103 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 4: and said she wanted to come home. I said that 1104 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 4: I was going to go over there to pick her up. 1105 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 4: She asked, are we okay? I just said yes, and 1106 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 4: she started to cry. I told her that I'm very 1107 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 4: happy and I'm I can't wait to see her, but 1108 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 4: we will need to talk about it. She calmed down 1109 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 4: a bit after that. That's when I opened the post 1110 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 4: again and saw all the comments, which I hope we're 1111 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 4: ripping you to shreds. I asked for a day off 1112 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: and my boss was fine with it. So I'm actually 1113 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 4: going to my hometown right now and I will update 1114 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 4: when it's all settled and we have an update. Let's 1115 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 4: go to it dive in Hello again. Things have settled 1116 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 4: down now and I feel like I have all the information, 1117 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 4: so I'm here to give y'all an update. When I 1118 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 4: got to my in laws, my wife was sitting on 1119 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 4: the sidewalk waiting for me. She jumped on me and 1120 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 4: kept apologizing, just hugging me and saying how sorry she was. 1121 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 4: We went to her room and I told her I 1122 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: was really tired and wanted a nap Before our talk. 1123 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 4: We slept holding each other, which you probably think is 1124 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 4: cringe or something. When we woke up, our talk felt 1125 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 4: like an endless circle, ME asking what happened and her 1126 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 4: saying that she was stupid and that it was her fault. 1127 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 4: She kept saying it didn't matter what happened because she 1128 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: screwed up a big moment in our lives. I kept asking, 1129 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 4: but she just repeated that she messed up and that 1130 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 4: nothing else mattered, which again she didn't and it was 1131 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,720 Speaker 4: her friend. 1132 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 5: You're making her feel bad for this. 1133 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 4: This is unbelievable. 1134 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 5: Understand that you're still making her feel bad. And now 1135 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 5: let's be surrounding around this idea of bad. 1136 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, the moment she said it's my fault, you should 1137 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 4: have gone no, no, no, it's not, it's your friend 1138 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,439 Speaker 4: who's her friends on Instagram. Eventually she said she didn't 1139 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 4: want to give me excuses and that the right thing 1140 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 4: for her to do was to take responsibility and apologize. 1141 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 4: I eventually gave in, told her she was forgiven, and 1142 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 4: said everything was fine. Still, I went to talk to 1143 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 4: her friend, the one who was with her all day 1144 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 4: and bought the pregnancy test with her. Her story was 1145 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 4: that right after my wife tested positive, they spent about 1146 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 4: an hour free looking out and talking about ways to 1147 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 4: tell me or surprise me. Eventually, my mother in law 1148 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 4: got home and they told her. Together, they decided to 1149 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 4: invite their girlfriends over to discuss ways to tell me. 1150 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 4: The friend went over all their ideas and I one 1151 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 4: hundred percent believe her. She also said it was discussed 1152 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 4: with the group that I didn't know yet and that 1153 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 4: they should all keep quiet for now because we hadn't 1154 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 4: decided when to announce it. She says the one girl 1155 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 4: who posted on Instagram absolutely did it on purpose. She 1156 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 4: had been told not to say anything to anyone, and 1157 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 4: at that point they were even discussing ways to tell 1158 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 4: me with her. The picture she posted was taken with 1159 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 4: another friend just arrived and heard the news. For some reason, 1160 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 4: she decided to post about it right then and there. Apparently, 1161 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 4: when they confronted her, she initially claimed she didn't know 1162 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 4: she wasn't allowed to post it. She stuck to that 1163 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 4: life for a while, but eventually she just told everyone 1164 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 4: she didn't give a crap and left. She blocked everyone 1165 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 4: in the group and we haven't heard from her since, 1166 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 4: So now you know who all of your misdirected angers 1167 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 4: should have been directed. No zero excuse for a husband 1168 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 4: to ever a grown Maybe if you were an eighteen 1169 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 4: year old father, I would acknowledge that, But this is 1170 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 4: a grown man who's supposed to be able to regulate 1171 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 4: his emotions, and he's getting mad at his own pregnant 1172 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 4: wife as soon. 1173 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 5: As day she finds out that he's been pining that. 1174 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 4: Day for her. 1175 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 5: Again, this ultimately stems from the friend, but this does 1176 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 5: not make any excuse for him going seeing Red. He 1177 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 5: should have been like seeing her and like I'm so happy, 1178 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 5: and then revert all that red to the friend when 1179 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 5: she told him, he's like, no, no, no, no, I'm 1180 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 5: mad at you. Don't talk to me, You're a baby. 1181 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 4: Nobody knows why the friend did this. They don't know 1182 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,879 Speaker 4: if she's jealous of my wife or something else. At 1183 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 4: this point, we don't care. She's blocked on our end too, 1184 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 4: and we want no contact with her. My sister later 1185 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 4: confirmed the friend's story. When she first called me with details, 1186 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 4: she was under the impression my wife had just told 1187 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 4: everyone and forgot to tell me. After talking to other 1188 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 4: friends and my mother in law. She told me basically 1189 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 4: the same story. I was also told by the friend. 1190 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: I spoke to my mother in law and another friend 1191 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 4: that when I called my wife, she basically said, screw it, 1192 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 4: I'm telling him right now, and was super excited to 1193 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 4: do it. Me and my wife talked again during our 1194 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 4: trip back home, now with me having most of the details, 1195 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 4: and she told her side basically identical to what my 1196 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 4: sister and the friend told me. She was again very apologetic, 1197 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 4: which is what you should be, buddy. 1198 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 5: This guy doesn't know what love is. This guy's so confused. 1199 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 4: She kept saying I'm her number one priority and that 1200 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 4: this was one of the dumbest things she has ever done, 1201 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 4: which I think the dumbest thing she could ever do 1202 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 4: would be continuing to It's maybe a little extreme, but 1203 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 4: this microcosm of an event is I feel like it's 1204 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 4: got to be emblematic of this guy's overarching behavior. This 1205 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 4: can't be a one off type scenario. 1206 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 5: I hope it is. I really hope it is just 1207 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 5: like a one time thing because he's just flooded with 1208 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 5: so much emotions. But I can't defend that. 1209 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 4: I don't don't know that makes no sense to me. 1210 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 4: But you know what does make perfect sense? Y'all joining 1211 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 4: our live streams whenever we go live every weekday at 1212 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 4: three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch. Just tap 1213 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 4: our profile and you're in. You might even want to 1214 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 4: go check right now, because we might be live as 1215 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 4: I speak. But we are about to finish up this story. 1216 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 4: I think we've kind of no, we've done it. We've 1217 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 4: addressed everything. We have a couple's counseling appointment next week 1218 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 4: at her insistence. I honestly don't think it's necessary, but 1219 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 4: she believes I need a space to fully express my feelings. 1220 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 4: She's worried I forgave her too fast, and I'm bottling 1221 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 4: everything up. Oh, I can't wait. 1222 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 5: She's literally doing this for you. 1223 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 4: You know what, if I were you, I wouldn't want 1224 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 4: to go to couple's therapy either, because the therapy is 1225 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,280 Speaker 4: probably gonna get her to realize she deserves better than you. Honestly, 1226 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 4: her concern about my feelings is already enough for me 1227 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 4: to forgive her and chalk it up as a one 1228 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 4: time thing. We also had our first appointment with an 1229 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 4: obstetrician first, because it's obviously the right thing to do, 1230 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 4: and also because many people warn me about the risks 1231 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 4: of losing the pregnancy early. My wife's last period was 1232 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 4: about six weeks ago, and the doctor said it was 1233 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 4: a bit early for an appointment. Still, they ran a 1234 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 4: bunch of tests and confirmed my wife is indeed pregnant. 1235 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 4: So far everything looks fine. Thank you all so much 1236 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 4: for caring about a random stranger. Yeah, that random stranger 1237 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,760 Speaker 4: would be your wife. I don't care about you, opeople 1238 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 4: I wanted to. 1239 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 5: See someone comment like from Reddit, like, dude, do you 1240 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 5: don't understand that you are not reaching out and like 1241 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 5: supporting your wife, that you're being a selfish prick. 1242 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 4: My wife has been controlling in our marriage. Now I 1243 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 4: feel burned. 1244 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 5: Out, burning out, burning out for you baby. 1245 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 4: Hi all, changing some details to provide anonymity, of course. 1246 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 4: I twenty seven male, and my wife twenty eight female, 1247 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 4: have been married for six years now and together for 1248 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 4: nine years. We met at work when we were both 1249 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 4: teens and started dating. They were my first real girlfriends, 1250 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 4: so I had my first everything with them. To this day, 1251 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 4: she is still the only woman that I have ever 1252 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,479 Speaker 4: had the spicy sleep with and the only other kiss 1253 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 4: with the girl I had was when I was like twelve, 1254 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 4: and it almost doesn't count to me because it was 1255 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 4: basically a kiss just to kiss someone. By the way, 1256 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 4: this comes from user throwaway Duh eight eight eighty three 1257 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 4: on the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So early in 1258 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 4: the relationship, she had stated that she wasn't going to 1259 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 4: college and had no plans to, while I had plans 1260 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 4: to move multiple states away for college and decided to 1261 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 4: go to a more local college to be able to 1262 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 4: stay with her. We ended up getting a rental near 1263 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 4: the college together about a year into dating. After this 1264 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 4: point is where things honestly seem to get messy. Not 1265 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 4: going to the college you wanted to go to to 1266 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 4: move in with your high school girlfriend is definitely gonna 1267 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 4: get messy. I'm just putting out. 1268 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 5: On to one of those things you just you live 1269 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 5: and learn with. 1270 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 4: One day, while I was at home, my girlfriend asked 1271 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 4: me to get her phone for her, and I noticed 1272 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 4: a tender notification on it. I confronted her about it, 1273 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 4: and honestly wasn't even angry at the time, but more 1274 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 4: disappoint She was talking to a guy on there about 1275 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 4: music and other things that weren't bad on their own, 1276 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,799 Speaker 4: but it was still on Tinder. She said she heard 1277 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 4: about the app from a friend and was told it 1278 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 4: was a place for her to find new friends. She 1279 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 4: was homeschooled and says that she didn't know what it 1280 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 4: was and then promptly deleted it. When I explained it's 1281 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 4: a hookup app. I decided to forgive her and move on. 1282 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: One day, I was at home when my girlfriend went 1283 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 4: through my Snapchat and saw that I was texting an 1284 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 4: old female friend from high school on it, and I 1285 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 4: had said that my girlfriend was being a bit of 1286 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 4: a bee to them. Understandably, my girlfriend was upset that 1287 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 4: I was speaking about her like that to another woman. 1288 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 4: Looking back, that was honestly childish of me, but I 1289 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,919 Speaker 4: was also eighteen at the time and I definitely learned 1290 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 4: from it. My girlfriend decided that because I wanted to 1291 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 4: continue to talk with my old friend, that I was 1292 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 4: cheating on her and decided to leave. I ended up 1293 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 4: caving and told her I would cut them out of 1294 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 4: my life, and after about a week or so, we 1295 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 4: had gotten back together officially. Now, my wife is a 1296 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 4: very traditional woman and is all about no spasis sleep 1297 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 4: before marriage, Honestly, this wasn't a big deal to me, 1298 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 4: as I was content with waiting for her, But as 1299 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 4: you would expect with two nineteen year olds living together, 1300 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 4: we ended up doing the deed before we were married. 1301 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 4: She had a complete breakdown afterwards, which made me feel terrible. 1302 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 4: A few weeks later, she said that we either needed 1303 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 4: to get married or break up because she didn't want 1304 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 4: me to keep being with her and getting all the 1305 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 4: benefits of being married without being married. I honestly wasn't 1306 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 4: ready to get married, but I also wasn't ready to 1307 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 4: break up. At the time. I told myself that I 1308 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 4: could always get a divorce if things didn't end up. Well, No, God, 1309 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 4: how old are you now, dude? What kind of environment 1310 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 4: brought these kids up? Man like homeschool and clearly casual divorce. 1311 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 4: You know what, We'll get married and if it doesn't 1312 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 4: work out, I'll divorce at nineteen and a half, dude, 1313 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 4: But right now, I really liked her and I wanted 1314 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 4: to continue that relationship. We got married roughly six months 1315 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 4: later after dating for three years. At first, things were great, 1316 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 4: and we moved away to a bigger city to start 1317 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 4: our careers. I ended up starting a sales job, and 1318 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 4: my branch had shut down about three months. In part 1319 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 4: of the closure was an opportunity to move back to 1320 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 4: a branch closer to our hometown where we could live 1321 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 4: closer to her family. We ended up taking the offer 1322 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 4: and we moved in with her family until we could 1323 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 4: get our own place. Keep in mind, this was during 1324 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 4: the beginning of COVID and we lived in a small 1325 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 4: room in her parents' house with terrible hues, neet internet, 1326 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 4: and no cell signal. About six months of that situation, 1327 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 4: I told her we had to move back to the 1328 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 4: bigger city and transfer to a branch there. She was 1329 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: hesitant at first, but reluctantly agreed. One of my female friends, Sam, 1330 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 4: from this city, told me that this branch had an 1331 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 4: opening and would put in a good word for us 1332 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 4: to move back. We ended up transferring and moving back 1333 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 4: to the city. Now as we lived here the second 1334 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 4: time is where the trouble came. My wife seemingly became 1335 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 4: terrified that I was cheating on her. Every day was 1336 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 4: an accusation. Every text message was checked, my location was tracked. 1337 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 4: Even my late nights at work were an affair, and 1338 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 4: every time I just told her I wasn't cheating on 1339 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 4: her because I don't know how to prove it. Now. 1340 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 4: I know I did this to myself, but the constant 1341 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 4: pressure of being scrutinized made me want to start hiding things. 1342 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a pro tip right now. 1343 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 5: Break up. 1344 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 4: If this is your relationship, break up, break up, especially 1345 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 4: if you are nineteen. Well, I guess now technically divorce 1346 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 4: because you got married. 1347 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 5: I don't think they got married yet. 1348 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 4: They got married before they knew what the real world was. 1349 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 4: That's never a good idea. For example, Sam moved to 1350 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 4: a new house and I bought them a housewarming gift. 1351 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 4: I used my credit card so my wife was able 1352 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 4: to see a charge for a purchase. She didn't recognize 1353 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 4: and asked me what it was for. Not wanting to 1354 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: deal with the scrutiny, I lied and told her to 1355 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 4: wait until Chris as it was coming up. 1356 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 5: Dude, both of you are bad. Both of you are 1357 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 5: so bad at this. 1358 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 4: They're nineteen and they got married. She didn't believe me, 1359 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 4: and I reluctantly told her what it was really for. 1360 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 4: This started another argument about how she wasn't able to 1361 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 4: really trust me because I was lying to her. About 1362 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 4: buying presents for other women, which is true. 1363 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 5: Dude, you should have just told her. I don't know 1364 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 5: why you didn't tell her. 1365 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 4: She ended up saying that she was going to get 1366 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 4: a divorce, and I told her to give me another chance. 1367 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 4: I would increase my transparency. 1368 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 5: You should have just little divorce you. 1369 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 4: You should have gotten the divorces, okay. Continuing on, Sam 1370 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 4: and I would frequently talk after work and just hang 1371 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 4: out outside of the building as we left to go home. 1372 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 4: I did end up opening up to her about how 1373 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 4: jealous my wife had gotten about everything. I did tell 1374 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 4: my wife that I had these conversations after a while, 1375 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 4: which caused her to dislike Sam even more. One day, 1376 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 4: Sam invited me, her boyfriend, our boss, a few coworkers 1377 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 4: and their spouse, and my wife to a bowling event. 1378 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 4: During the event, I had tapped Sam's friend on the 1379 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 4: shoulder to let her know that it was her turn 1380 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 4: to bowl, and at another point in the night, my 1381 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 4: boss's wife had tapped my arm to get my attention 1382 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: in a similar way. After we finished bowling and got 1383 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 4: in the car, she was noticeably upset and wouldn't talk 1384 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 4: to me When we got home. She said she wanted 1385 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 4: to be alone and asked me to get out of 1386 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 4: the car and go inside. After a bit of trying 1387 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 4: to get her to open up, I relented and went inside. 1388 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 4: She managed to sneak in and go to bed without 1389 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 4: me noticing, and the next day she said she was 1390 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 4: going to go spend a week with her parents after 1391 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 4: she got off work. When I asked her why she 1392 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 4: was upset, she said it was because of the touching 1393 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 4: and said it was too personal. Once again, what will 1394 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 4: we do? One two three breakup divorce divorce to a divorce, 1395 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 4: The big adult breakup divorce. I told her that she 1396 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 4: was being ridiculous, but she wanted to stay with her 1397 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 4: parents regardless. I convinced her to stay and talk to 1398 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 4: me for about thirty minutes after she got off work. 1399 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 4: I bought her her a handful of snacks and energy 1400 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 4: drinks for the ride and basically told her that the 1401 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 4: touches weren't anything other than a way to literally get 1402 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 4: someone's attention in a crowded room. She ended up leaving 1403 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 4: that night and decided to stay with her parents for 1404 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 4: a bit. That night, on her way to her parents, 1405 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 4: how she hit a dog and texted me to tell 1406 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 4: me that she decided she wanted to stay together because 1407 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 4: in that moment, she was aware of how it felt 1408 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 4: to be alone and that she loved me. 1409 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 5: I think she's a psychopath. 1410 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 4: What did ies? 1411 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 5: I think she's a psychopath. She hit a dog and 1412 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 5: then she's like, I think I want to stay with 1413 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 5: him because it makes me want to like that makes 1414 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 5: me feel alone. I think she's a psychopath. 1415 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 4: I have read lines of actual psychopaths doing psychopath stuff, 1416 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 4: and that is one of the most psychotic things I've 1417 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 4: ever read. 1418 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 5: That's very psychotic. I am scared for you now. 1419 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 4: I told her I wanted to still spend the whole 1420 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 4: week alone now, and I went to stay with a 1421 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 4: friend for the week. Okay, it could it possibly be 1422 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 4: the end? Please let this end. 1423 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 5: We are betting on it. It was to not go 1424 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 5: the way right way. Thank goodness. 1425 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 4: You do not need to be with this girl. What 1426 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 4: she didn't tell me is that when she hit the 1427 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 4: aforementioned animal, it did so much damage to her car 1428 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 4: that she couldn't drive it and had to get it 1429 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 4: repaired and get a rental. 1430 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. 1431 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 4: When I came home after the week, she said that 1432 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 4: I had abandoned her during a vulnerable moment and wasn't 1433 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 4: there for her when she needed me. I told her 1434 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 4: that if we were going to try and make this work, 1435 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 4: we were going to marriage counseling. She declined, and I 1436 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 4: told her we were done. Then we both just lost 1437 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 4: a lot of money. 1438 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 5: It's okay, the house always wins. 1439 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 4: We're down eleven hundred bucks, but I'm so happy about it. 1440 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 4: She changed her mind and agreed to go dang it. 1441 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 4: During the counseling sessions, it seemed like it wasn't really helping. 1442 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 4: To be honest, we both told our sides of what 1443 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 4: was happening, and they basically said we needed to figure 1444 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 4: out if we wanted to be together. My wife went 1445 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,400 Speaker 4: down a self help rabbit hole and bought dozens of books. 1446 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 4: Around this time, I had gotten a promotion to run 1447 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 4: my own branch, and Sam had moved to away to 1448 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 4: manage her own branch as well. I ended up cutting 1449 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 4: Sam out of my life due to it causing my 1450 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 4: wife to get jealous. Keep in mind, my wife is 1451 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 4: able to have male friends because she quote hates women 1452 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 4: and otherwise wouldn't have friends. 1453 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, there's so many red flags here. I know, 1454 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 5: you guys are young. But oh my gosh, this is 1455 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 5: not young love. This is young torture. You said it best. 1456 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 5: This is so bad. 1457 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 4: One time, my wife invited me out to a work 1458 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 4: dinner with her and her almost exclusively male coworkers, one 1459 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 4: female coworker, and I had to decline because I had COVID, 1460 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 4: which she knew, and she had been driven home due 1461 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 4: to being too drunk to drive. I felt bad, but 1462 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 4: I essentially just completely started ghosting her and only responding 1463 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 4: to work related messages in the shortest format possible. She 1464 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 4: eventually took the hint and stopped messaging me until one day. 1465 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 4: Sam had to transfer back to my branch for family reasons. 1466 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,439 Speaker 4: She had taken a demotion to make it work. I 1467 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 4: adamantly tried to find another way for her to be 1468 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 4: put in a nearby branch to avoid her being at mine. 1469 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 4: It was out of my hands due to upper leadership. 1470 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 4: Now around this time, the upper leadership took a look 1471 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,959 Speaker 4: at the branch and realized that Sam was performing better 1472 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 4: than mine and decided that I should be the one 1473 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 4: to step down and Sam should have my spot. I 1474 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 4: ended up transferring to another department entirely to avoid working 1475 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 4: with Sam and to get away from my former employees 1476 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 4: out of shame from being demoted. I honestly think I 1477 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 4: managed to convince myself to hate Sam. I convinced myself 1478 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 4: that she was the reason I was demoted. I convinced 1479 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 4: myself that she and my boss worked it out together 1480 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 4: due to them being on really good terms. My wife 1481 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 4: joined in on the hate train and kept essentially egging 1482 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 4: it on, convincing me to hate her more and more. 1483 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 5: I'm seeing red all over. 1484 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 4: This is gonna be a great ending THO. 1485 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 5: When he leaves, I don't care anymore. I've lost all 1486 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 5: my empathy and sympathy for this. 1487 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 4: Guys, don't get married when you're eighteen and a half. 1488 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 4: Don't do that. 1489 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 5: No, you can, just don't get married to psychotic people. 1490 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you right now. Both people in this story, 1491 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 5: they're both psychotic in their own very little good way. 1492 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 4: If the marriage was going to work at eighteen, the 1493 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 4: marriage wi work twenty five. That's all I'm saying. I 1494 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 4: mostly ended up isolating myself from doing anything social out 1495 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 4: of fear of making her mad. But I talked with 1496 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 4: my male friends on discord and played games with them 1497 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 4: once or twice a year. I would manage to go 1498 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 4: with them to do things, but my wife would insist 1499 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 4: on coming or being invited. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't like 1500 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 4: my friends and makes it very awkward when she's there 1501 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 4: because you can feel the tension and awkwardness. I've discussed 1502 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 4: some of these things with them in the past. I 1503 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 4: eventually just stopped going out entirely unless it was with her, 1504 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,479 Speaker 4: and I really just didn't want to deal with any 1505 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 4: more accusations or drama. A year and a half went 1506 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 4: by and everything seemed good with my wife, and we 1507 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 4: ended up having her sister and her husband to move 1508 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 4: in with us because we were planning on moving closer 1509 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 4: to her parents and I was going to transfer back 1510 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 4: to the branch near her parents. At first, this was fine, 1511 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 4: and then she started to get so angry with them. 1512 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 4: She would every day and every night just rant about 1513 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 4: things like how they didn't do the dishes enough or 1514 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 4: didn't take out the trash enough. When we finally got 1515 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 4: to transfer about six months later, we moved in with 1516 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 4: her brother and his wife for about eight months. She 1517 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 4: was about the same in terms of attitude towards them. 1518 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 4: She would get angry and complain to me all the 1519 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 4: time about how they wouldn't pull their weight or do chores. 1520 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 4: By this point, we had our first baby on the way, 1521 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 4: so I. 1522 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Let her quit her jump to prepare to be his 1523 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:21,959 Speaker 2: stay at home. 1524 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 5: This is gonna be a terrible environment for that child. 1525 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 5: I am scared for that child. I'm sorry, I'm scared 1526 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 5: for that child. 1527 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 4: Oh oh, p I hope you see the light by 1528 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 4: the end of this. And now I have to think 1529 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 4: of the children. Around two months ago, I had a 1530 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: dream about Sam and me just hanging out outside the 1531 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 4: store like we used to, and I woke up in 1532 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 4: absolute tears. I hid them from my wife, but I 1533 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 4: spent the next three hours just bawling and feeling so 1534 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 4: bad because what I did to her isn't me. For context, 1535 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 4: I drive about an hour and a half to work 1536 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 4: and back every day, so I cried from when I 1537 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 4: woke up to when I got in the shower, left 1538 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 4: for work, and the entire drive. Nearly around here, I've 1539 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 4: started to have serious doubts about where I'm heading in 1540 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 4: my life. Now, well, yeah, i'd say, balling your eyes 1541 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 4: out from the moment you wake up to the moment 1542 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 4: you arrive at your job after I have an hour 1543 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 4: and a half commute. 1544 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, this guy, it's hitting him hard. It's hitting 1545 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 5: him real hard. 1546 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 4: Do I really want to do this forever? Is this 1547 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,640 Speaker 4: my life? Now? I can't even go out and be 1548 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 4: with my friends or by myself something nice without dangier 1549 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 4: having a panic attack at this point, But now I 1550 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,480 Speaker 4: feel obligated to stay as this baby boy is amazing. 1551 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 4: He's truly the best thing, and it still feels surreal 1552 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 4: even though he's been with us for six months now. 1553 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 4: I also have fears that maybe this really is just 1554 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 4: how our relationship is. It isn't. For God's sake, it isn't, 1555 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 4: and I won't have anything better. She tells me that 1556 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 4: we have both made mistakes in the past and any 1557 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 4: healthy marriage has to work through them. I opened up 1558 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 4: to her about my anxiety and fears, and she says 1559 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 4: she doesn't even know why I feel that way, since 1560 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 4: she hasn't been crazy see in almost two years now, 1561 01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 4: which were her words, not mine. She says to just 1562 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 4: go out and try to do things and she will 1563 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,960 Speaker 4: trust me now. But I really can't. There's a block 1564 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,600 Speaker 4: that just prevents me and gets me so tense that 1565 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 4: I don't want to do anything outside of the home. 1566 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 4: I honestly feel so cooped up that I enjoy my 1567 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 4: days at work more than my days off. My wife 1568 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 4: went to stay with her sister for a week, and 1569 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 4: the entire time, the only time I felt sad was 1570 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,600 Speaker 4: when I saw any of my son's things. It was 1571 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 4: honestly crushing to see his playmat or toys. I know 1572 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,000 Speaker 4: I should just be happy that she has seemingly changed, 1573 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 4: but I don't know why I can't seem to accept 1574 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 4: it and feel like I won't be able to move on. 1575 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 4: But I also don't want to leave my son in 1576 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 4: a broken family. But you know who will never leave 1577 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 4: you us? And when we go live every weekday at 1578 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 4: three pmpst on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Twitch, all you 1579 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 4: gotta do is tap our profile and you're in the live. 1580 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,440 Speaker 5: Heck, we might even be alive right now, probably. 1581 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 4: But before you check on that, let's finish this story. 1582 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 5: Young love sometimes is crushing and it's very naive and 1583 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 5: it's stressful, and you learn from it. I don't think 1584 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 5: Opie ever got to learn from this. It was just 1585 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 5: like a consistent oh gets back sucking do it like 1586 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 5: like a black hole. 1587 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 4: I feel like Opie and his wife probably both come 1588 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 4: from an environment where marriage is emphasized very heavily, like 1589 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 4: from the. 1590 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,800 Speaker 5: I at least think it's from his wife because his wife, 1591 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 5: again was homeschooled and that was her upbringing. She did 1592 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 5: kind of force his hand, like, if you're gonna be 1593 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,600 Speaker 5: with me, you gotta get it married right now, and 1594 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 5: he was just like, I guess, I mean he. 1595 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 4: Was the same way. He's like, I had no problem waiting, 1596 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 4: and then they just like low, KI didn't because you 1597 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 4: were nineteen. 1598 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very young and naive and young love. 1599 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 5: But again this is like his first love and they 1600 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 5: were just like, well, let's rush into it. It was 1601 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 5: just like rush rush. 1602 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 4: So there's just so many red flags that they might 1603 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 4: not even have been able to see. I've tried to 1604 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 4: go to a therapist, but they essentially told me that 1605 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 4: I should just make a pro and con list and 1606 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 4: see if I should stay with her, and didn't tell 1607 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 4: me any other advice other than that. Seems tough, dude. 1608 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 5: I wish you could get out of this so bad. 1609 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 4: Oh P did you write the pros and conflict? Though 1610 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you did. 1611 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,719 Speaker 5: Did you read what you wrote. 1612 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 4: Recently, my wife admitted to me that she thinks she 1613 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 4: gave me PTSD and was sorry. She also admitted that 1614 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 4: the only reason she threatened divorce in the past was 1615 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 4: because she wanted me to open up to her, but 1616 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 4: that she doesn't believe in divorce and wouldn't sign any papers. 1617 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's absolutely waste levels of toxic. I 1618 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 4: don't really know where to end this post, so I'm 1619 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 4: just gonna go ahead and end it here. You should 1620 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 4: have ended this post when you moved in with your 1621 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 4: girlfriend in the first year of college, which by the way, 1622 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 4: isn't the college you wanted to go to, and then 1623 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 4: things started getting weird. You should have ended it there.