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Speaker 1: Good morning, sir, Evan Corey might good to be on

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Speaker 1: again with you, but what a time to be on

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Speaker 1: here we are rolling into the San Francisco forty Niners

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Speaker 1: playoff time. Now, we always hear about players and coaches

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Speaker 1: my game, it's got to be an imaginative which I

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Speaker 1: will get into imagination thinking about that pass I'm going

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Speaker 1: But there's no question something gets repped up and I

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Speaker 1: guess it's part of my game. But I know this,

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Speaker 1: it's an exciting time. It just reminds us where you're

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Speaker 1: trying to go. We all know what's at stake it.

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Speaker 1: You know, every tackle, every tackle takes on an elevated

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Speaker 1: meaning ever run for two yards, ever, ever play, every

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Speaker 1: time we reach out there and get the quarterback by

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Speaker 1: of that, Each play has its own distinct meeting because

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Speaker 1: you don't get but about sixty of them in the game. Jerry,

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Speaker 1: do you have a lucky breakfast, a lucky shirt, a

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Speaker 1: lucky tie, a lucky jacket, because if the Cowboys went

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, I know next week I'm doing the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing. So I'm wondering if you have something that

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Speaker 1: is lucky for you this Sunday quite a challenge because

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Speaker 1: I've used up about everything known to man to have

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Speaker 1: I can give you a little instance when it didn't

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Speaker 1: I really do have some cuff links that I right

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Speaker 1: after I got out of school, I traded with a

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Speaker 1: I had them made for my father, and so I

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Speaker 1: for my father, right after I graduated from college, and

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Speaker 1: when he passed, Mama gave them back to me. Now,

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Speaker 1: those are pretty precious, and I have those either own

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Speaker 1: and generally they've certainly just because of who war them.

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Speaker 1: For sixty years, my dad They're gonna bring me some

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Speaker 1: kind of luck no matter what, just the fact that

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Speaker 1: I get there and back of life. Now we have

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Speaker 1: a working theory. This morning, we kicked off the show

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Speaker 1: with Jim Nance that perhaps he could be your lucky charm.

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Speaker 1: The last time he called a Cowboys playoff game was

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Speaker 1: for the nineteen ninety three season when y'all won the

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Speaker 1: Jim Nancy is lucky and certainly we've had some times

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Speaker 1: I think of that Jim Nance is going to do

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Speaker 1: Now I just want to be near him, and it's

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Speaker 1: He's just outstanding in his commentary for our fans and

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Speaker 1: it couldn't be more appropriate. And in addition to that,

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Speaker 1: I texted George Teague the other day and asked him,

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Speaker 1: We went through that as kids, and that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have some some hatred from from those experiences

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Speaker 1: And I'll always regret that we let him get out

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Speaker 1: Came played at Alabama, boy, and he knew the game,

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Speaker 1: good man that day. Now, I know things can change

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Speaker 1: rapidly when it comes to this. Yesterday seemed like positive

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Speaker 1: we're keeping our distance, keeping our masks on. The players

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Speaker 1: I'll give it a thumbs up. Does Deebo Samuel worry

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Speaker 1: But yesterday we got word that it looks like Will

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Speaker 1: What was the coordinator? Who do you think learn more

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Speaker 1: good sir. You bet guys. How about