1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: And once again make it just spewing misinformation with no 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: actual idea whether it's true or not. He wrote his ankle, 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: all right, let's timmer down a little bit. You know, 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: he's getting carried by his lineman, throws the game when 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: he touchdown, limps off the fuel. Live, laugh, love. That's 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: what I do, Garrett. Okay, welcome back into the lounge. 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Post by lounge. I feel refreshed, I feel relaxed. I 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: feel like I got a whole new sense of energy. 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: It's nice. You still look just as pasty as ever. 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Well that's true. I didn't go anywhere warm. Yeah, well 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: it was pretty warm out this weekend was nice. It 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: was very nice. It was maybe one of the nicer 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: weather weekends we've had. Yeah. Well, I'm Ryan Mink and 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm Garrett Downing. Still pasty as ever. And why don't 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you read a little review for us? What always? You know, 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: what we like to do is to read reviews or 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: we read emails that you guys send to us at 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. This one 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: is a review from iTunes. We're getting close to that 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: hundred of century mark. We need to hit that one 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: way to make sure that you get your review read 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: is by making the headline of the review, making Garrett 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: should read this so us and I will answer that 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: the review from Seth nine thousand is die hard Ravens 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: member living in Nebraska, basically overseas shoutout rope Walk. I'm 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: guessing he's a fan of rope Walk and fed Hill. 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: I know nothing about it. I'm sure I've never drank 28 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: at a bar ever. Yeah, I love the show, love 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the player guests waiting patiently for Flacco to come on 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: for his podcast. Bump needs to happen at some point. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Agree with My favorite part of this email from Seth 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: says keep it up and for the love of Oz, 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: someone please turned down Ryan's laughing gas. What's that even mean? Yeah, 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to laugh at that comment, but you were 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: trying not to just because he was assaulting you. Look here, Seth, 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: look here, Seth. Alright, four game losing streak. It feels 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: like forever since the Ravens won a game. I'm trying 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: to keep things late, all right, Seth, Sorry for laughing, 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: but a positive guy on Seth bandwagon because when I 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: go through and edit this podcast, the ringing of your 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: laughter is just in my ears for the rest of 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: the day. Live, laugh, love. That's what I do. Gerett, Okay, 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: how would your buy? It was excellent, got a little 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: family time. I did not watch a single snap of football. 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: I needed to detox completely from NFL football. I get that. 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I did watch a little bit of NFL football, more 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: watched college football. I went to the highest state game 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: in Colombus is my family, which is a great time. 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I heard they almost lost. It was a little closer 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: comfort there in the second half. But you're like, you 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: don't have Maryland on the schedule. They do have Maryland 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: on the schedule. They play Maryland in two weeks. Way 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: to that schedule. That's an ill That's an ill way 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: to stay on top of your college football knowledge. This 55 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: is this is just an indication of how make throws 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: out facts and information. Just he was something out there, 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: has no idea whether it's true or not. Most likely 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: it's not true. Then gets called on it, tries to 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: quickly pivot onto something else. It's like it's like Trump. 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: It's more it's more of an indication of how big 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: a Maryland UH fan I am these days, I'm more 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: of a fan of Maryland field hockey six time defending 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: national champions way better than you gotta be if you're 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna talk, if you're gonna talk about how you're a 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: big fans Toronto. Really she's on the team right now. No, 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: she's not looking up. Okay, we'll do that after the show. 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: You have no idea guarantee she's on the team, and 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: once again make it just spewing misinformation with no actual 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: idea whether it's true or not. I did watch a 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: little World series. I watched a couple of innings, and 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm I don't like that. The Indians right now are 72 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: up three too in this series. Because there's no better 73 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: narrative in sports than Cleveland being awful awful city, sports 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: city and just being the lovable losers, not so lovable 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: losers in your case. But you know the what's we 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: call it? The Calves already won. You don't need another 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: championship in Cleveland. They got one, all right. The storyline 78 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: is already awash. Cleveland's title town. The Great State of 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Ohio is title town. Ohio states one national championship in 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: the past a couple of years. The Calves broke the 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: streak in Cleveland. They got a championship, and I'm fully 82 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: confident that the Cleveland Indians will get the job done 83 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: and beat the Cups this weekend. This week all right, 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: So do you feel better or worse about the Ravens 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: after the biogas refreshed and refreshed, I'm talking about championships 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: about the Ravens. Uh, yeah, we're talking about the Rabis. 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna do it. Cleveland Indians Centric 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: Podcast here, I would say, I feel probably better. I 89 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: think when you get away, there's probably something to be 90 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: said for that, and there you can kind of decompress 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: and take a step back and think about how everything's gone, 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: and you're not as caught up in the fact that 93 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: it's a four game losing streak. It was pretty sour 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: mood around here, I would say at the end of 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: that game last week, and then the first couple of 96 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: days of before going into the bye. So I think 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: I feel better. I would agree with that, And I 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: think that you come out of it and you look 99 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: in the schedule and you say, all right, the Steelers 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: are coming to Mt Bank Stadium, first places on the 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: line in the f C North in a very depressed 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: a f C North so far this year. That makes 103 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: you excited. I think about Ravens football. You're getting a 104 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of players. I think back on the field, you 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of hope coming out of this boy, 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I think, and that's what puts a lot of pressure 107 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: on this game. I think this is a massive game 108 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. Uh. If you come out and you 109 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: get your pieces back together and you still can't put 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: it together offensively. If you don't play well at home 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: against your arch rival and you fall in the third 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: place in the a f C North by a game 113 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: behind our two games behind the Steelers, things would be bad. 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: It's the Ravens losers game. It's a deflating loss because 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: five game losing streak. You have to buy. Like you said, 116 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you have all these guys getting back healthy. This is 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: a huge game. It's a massive game, and I do 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I feel better for all the 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: reasons that you mentioned and the fact that you look 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: at it and you can kind of see, all, right, 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: this is there's an opportunity here for the Ravens to 122 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: turn around. I think that's the main reason why you 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: feel a little bit better about it, because I think 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: that the Ravens. As you look at it, let's look 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: at the path through the playoffs whether that could happen. 126 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: And I think that it's a realistic opportunity for the 127 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Ravens to get there if they can turn it around 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: starting this week. If they lose to the Steelers, you know, 129 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: obviously statistically it's not done, but it's gonna be really 130 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: difficult for them to two games back in the Steelers 131 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: and you have to go to Pittsburgh week sixt so 132 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: you lost him at home, it's not gonna be any 133 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: easier on the road. Plus if they have been back then, 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: which they might not. This Sundays, you have both games 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, you have a game against the Patriots, 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: you have a game against the Eagles, a game against 137 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. In the second half of the season, so 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: lost lost to the two worst, the two worst teams 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: in the NFC East. You have the two top teams 140 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: still to come. So but with all that said, I 141 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: feel like there's definitely still a pass to get to 142 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and there's one path and you gotta win 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: the division. Yeah, and so I think that you know, 144 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals have had the Ravens number in recent years. 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: But the Bengals are down for sure. Now. They did 146 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: get effort back on the field. That makes a big 147 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: difference for them. They put up twenty seven points against 148 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: the Redskins, but their defense has not been particularly good 149 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: this year. Um So, I think the Bengals are beatable 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: even though they've they've had the Ravens number recently, and 151 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: once again, it's gonna come down to can you beat 152 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the Bengals, That's what it's gonna come 153 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: down to, and I think the Ravens can do that. 154 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: The Ravens have won five out of the last six 155 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. You want to talk about having somebody's number, 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens have had it. I think they've figured out 157 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the formula. Even if Ben's on the field, I think 158 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: they've they've controlled been Uh in years past when he's 159 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: had a lot of weapons, just like he does this year. So, um, 160 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I think it should be a very good game on Sunday. 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: We talked about on scripted last week. I think nine 162 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: and seven probably gets you a f C North Crown 163 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: it very well. Could you know nine and seven could 164 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: do the job, And that's probably It's probably a tibrick 165 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: situation where we have a couple of teams sitting there 166 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: at nine and seven. Um, And I think it depends 167 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: that depends on how soon Ben gets back, how many 168 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: more games to he miss, does he get injured again? 169 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean Ben could always get injured at any time, 170 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: so uh, and they're obviously not the same team without him. 171 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: But I don't think that two teams from the North 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: are coming out to look at the West. I mean, look, 173 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: here's I'm looking at the standings right here. Broncos and 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: Raiders are both six and two, the Chiefs are five 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: and two. So you're probably gonna have at least two, 176 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: very likely three teams coming out of the West. And 177 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: by the way, that Oakland lost one point lost to them, 178 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: and Week four doesn't look so bad, does it? Very true? 179 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: If ten yards away? Yeah, so it's kind of funny. 180 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: It's won so many close games this year, it's unreal. Yeah, 181 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: they're They've also won all five of their games on 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: the road, which is tough, particularly for a West Coast team. 183 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: They're just they're a good team. Yeah. There, they can 184 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: put it up offensively. But the West, I will throw 185 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: this out there right now. They look rate they haven't 186 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: played each other a lot. There's still gonna be some 187 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna knock each other down a peg or two. 188 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: But you but I do think the West those are 189 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: three very strong teams. You know. It's funny when I 190 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: was watching football. I know you said you don't watch 191 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: any football over the by NFL football, but I did. 192 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: And when I was watching it, I kind of felt 193 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: two things. One, you know, y'all watching the Bengals and 194 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: the Redskins game, and you're watching these teams kind of 195 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: march uping down the field at certain points of the game, 196 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: and you're saying, like, where is that offense with the Ravens, 197 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: Like where is that kind of people making ability? People 198 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: in Baltimore have been saying that for the past decade, 199 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: two decades. Yeah, but I'm watching it, I'm like, why can't, 200 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: like a lot of fans, why can't the Ravens do that? 201 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Why can't the Ravens do that? Watching the Cowboys game, 202 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: you think those things, um, But then at the same 203 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: time I'm watching it and I'm thinking, Okay, so this 204 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: game against the Redskins, Washington looks pretty good. Kirk Cousins 205 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: looks pretty good in this game, and the Ravens really 206 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: did a good job of holding them at Bay. If C. J. 207 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Mosley holds onto that interception and it crosses the end zone, 208 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Ravens win that game. And then I will them there 209 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: at the Oakland game, and the Ravens had that they 210 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: had that one, and then there was a late drive 211 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: by Oakland and if they just get If the Ravens 212 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: get maybe ten to fifteen more yards on that final drive, 213 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: talker probably boots the game winning field goal. That's you know, 214 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: It's like I kind of felt both ways. And one 215 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: since I look at it and they say the Ravens 216 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: got a long way to go because their offense isn't 217 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: anywhere close to these other teams. But then on the 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: other side of the coin, I look at it and 219 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: I say, maybe the Ravens aren't that far off after all. Well, 220 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are a classic team that could 221 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: be seven and oh or they could be owing seven 222 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, you look at their wins. The 223 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Bills game was probably was the most convincing win for sure. 224 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the defense is dominated throughout the day. The 225 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: offense still didn't have a great day. We hit the 226 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: one big touchdown to Mike Wallace. Um, but I mean 227 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: you're down twenty points twenty and oh end in Cleveland 228 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Jacksonville threw a bad pick late in that game and 229 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: had an extra had an extra point or a field 230 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: goal blocked. Um, so those could have been losses. And 231 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: then you look at the Raiders game like you're saying, 232 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: and the Redskins games, those should have definitely both been wins. 233 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Giants could have definitely been a win, Jessica. I mean, 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: so the Ravens are a classic could be seven, oh 235 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: could be on seven. That's kind of what I was 236 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: saying at the beginning of the year with the Ravens 237 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of close losses last year. If you 238 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: even split the difference, then they're a better team this year. 239 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: And that's basically what they've done. I mean, when you 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: play this many close games, as the Ravens have done, 241 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: because they haven't been good enough to separate from teams, 242 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, when they've gotten early leads and games, they 243 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: haven't put their foot on the pedal. They haven't been 244 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: good enough, they haven't played well enough to do that. 245 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: So when you play close game, this many close games, 246 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win them all. And let's call a 247 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: spade a spade. The Ravens offense and Joe Flacco haven't 248 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: gotten it done late in games. They haven't done gotten 249 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: done well enough. Certainly they got Justin Tucker in the 250 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,479 Speaker 1: field goal range barely for fifty five yard or in Cleveland, 251 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: but otherwise they haven't even gotten him in range when 252 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: they've needed to, and they haven't scored touchdowns when they've 253 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: needed to. So, uh, you know, they got to play 254 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: better offensively late and get defensively. Yeah. Yeah, definitely goes 255 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: on both sides. I mean, one thing that's nice about 256 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: to buy against everybody chance to get away, like we're 257 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: talking about what we talked about and relax and now 258 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get fired up again. Now I'm started 259 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: talking about it and I'm getting right up. And then 260 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: the other part of it too, for the coaches. They 261 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: don't get as much time, you know, obviously as us 262 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: to just completely pull away and forget about things. They're 263 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: still grinding away in their offices over a lot of 264 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: this week, of a lot of last week, and they 265 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: well they had to figure out is why things aren't 266 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: working and what we need to change in the second half, 267 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: whether it's lineup changes or scheme adjustments, different types of 268 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: play calls within the game, all of that stuff. They 269 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: are looking back through every play from the first half 270 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: of this season to try to figure out what needs 271 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to change. So in your mind, what does need to change? 272 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: What would you like to see differently in the second half. 273 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Since I was burning the midnight oil, here they grinding away. 274 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't watch any I didn't watch any 275 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: live fooble. A lot of Ravens take just burning the 276 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: midnight oil. Um, here's my thing with the offense. I 277 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: think that you obviously can't just abandon the passing games. 278 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm not throwing in the towel on that. And they 279 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: need to be more precise because I think the offense 280 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: in the passing game has a threefold problem. I think 281 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: that the offensive line hasn't protected Joe well enough. I 282 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: think when Joe has been protected, he's missed too many throws. 283 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: And I don't think his targets have run the right routes, 284 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: done the things that need to be done. And and 285 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: you and you've had too many penalties on offense, so 286 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: it seems like you're right. Run of those four problems 287 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: happen on almost every other play, and when you have 288 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: so many of those issues to clean up, you're just 289 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: not gonna be good overall. Um So, especially on offense 290 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: when everything has to be clicking to have success. Um So, 291 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: if to me, what I want to see changes, I 292 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: think the passing game has a short rope. For me, 293 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: it's it's on a short leash. Uh so you can't 294 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: abandon it. But I think if if things don't come 295 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: out of the by and you're not clicking and it's 296 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: not precise coming out, I think this offense should evolve 297 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: more into a running, running, sets up the past kind 298 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: of offense. I think once you get yonda once you 299 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: get Stanley back on that offensive line, you have an 300 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: out line that can get after it and you kind 301 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: of turn those guys loose a little bit, let them 302 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: block it up. Terence West has run the ball well. 303 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: I'd like to see more. Kenneth Dixon. I think he 304 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of potential. I'm not saying that you 305 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: run the ball more than you pass, but I think 306 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: this can be. It can shift more of the focus 307 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: onto the running game to help set up the past. 308 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the strength of the Ravens team 309 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: this year is the defense. I think playing to that 310 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: defense grinded out some games. Controlling the clock a little better, 311 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: especially against a high octane offense against Pittsburgh, might not 312 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: be a bad call. You're kind of going with the 313 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: old one hate model of there's when you pass, there's 314 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: three things that can happen, and two of them are bad. Exactly. 315 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: I've seen too many of those two things so far. 316 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Interceptionated completions, penalties, all that has happened too much. I 317 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: don't I can't get on board with what you're saying. 318 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: And as we both know, neither of us are big 319 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: run first guys, right that this is big of us 320 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: to say. Um. But the other thing, and maybe this 321 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: is to your point, I want to see a clear 322 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: identity on offense because I think that what we have 323 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: seen through these first seven games, you don't know what 324 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: the offense is really going to be week to week. 325 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And part of the reason is there was a coordinator 326 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: changed in the middle of that, so that obviously makes 327 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: things a little bit more complicated. But you come out 328 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: on the beginning of the year and it's all these 329 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: short passes. We want to do. The dink and dunk 330 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: be quick and efficient, and that didn't really work, and 331 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: then it's okay, well, we need to have more of 332 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: a commitment to the running game. They started running the 333 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: ball a little bit better in there for a couple 334 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: of weeks, and then they got away from it and 335 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: only had what eleven yards of total rushing yards? They 336 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: changed it. I thought it was six, and then I 337 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: went up to eleven, right, I think that's correct. It's 338 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: still a franchise, little yeah. So then you cut your 339 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: totally get away from the running game, and that lost 340 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: to the Jets. So you just don't really know what 341 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: the offensive identity is, especially and then in those last 342 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: couple of games, it's what we want to take more 343 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: deep shots now. So what my hope is and I 344 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: think that this is something that they went to work 345 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: on because the word I heard more than anything else 346 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: from Flacco and from Marty morning Way last week was precision, precision, precision, precision, 347 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: and so they kind of drove home that message. And 348 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: I think part of that is establishing, Okay, what exact 349 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: athlete do we want to be and what do we 350 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: want this office to look like. I don't know that 351 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think it's more to my 352 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: point um in that like there's there consistently is one 353 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: facet of the offenses breaking down on like every play, 354 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's running, precision of route running, precision 355 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: of passes, need to be on the right target at 356 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: the right time. I think some of that it's just 357 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: And that's why I say I don't think the Ravens 358 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: offenses is just you know, they're loss that you throw 359 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: in the towel, that they're done. They're not going to 360 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: figure it out. I think they can because there's parts 361 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: there that are good. It's just like I think that's 362 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: what much identity problem. Need to find an identity. What 363 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: is okay? Can you explain what the Ravens offensive identity is? No, 364 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that they have one, but I don't know, 365 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. But I don't think that that's the problem. Yeah, 366 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: I think that you need to have some sort of 367 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: identity terms of what you want to do consistently and 368 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: be good at that. And I think that when we've 369 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: seen this Ravens offense be good over the past however 370 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: many years they have had an identity. What was the 371 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: identity under Kubiak? The identity under Kubiak was very clear. 372 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: It was run the ball, established a run and use 373 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: that to set up the pass play action passports off 374 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: of that. I mean it was very clear what was 375 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: the identity and two the identity there was also you 376 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: wanted to use the running game to set at the past. 377 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: You had Ray Rice and he was the most explosive 378 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: offensive weapon that they had and they use that to 379 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: their advantage and then they use an aerial downfield passing attack. 380 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: So what should there be the identity be now? I 381 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: think what the identity should be now is they still 382 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: want to use now. I think it's more of a 383 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: two thousand, more of a two thousand twelve as opposed 384 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: to the two thousand fourteen where they're still I think 385 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: they're going to use the run to set up the past, 386 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: and I think they should do more of that now. 387 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: I think that interiorly, yeah, I agree with that point 388 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: and and like I also said, it goes back to 389 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: finding an identity and that's what they need to do. 390 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: So thank you for agreeing with me. I hate to 391 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: do that. I hate to be like Gary, don't you 392 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: tell a little story here? So getting ready to place 393 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday and it's storytime? Yes, and uh you went 394 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: to an event with Mike Tomlin and John Harball. It 395 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: was for the swabbing. Yeah, this for Nestor Swabbing. W 396 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: w NSC did this offseason and and Tomlin actually came 397 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, which I gave him credit for. It's kind 398 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: of a bold move to show up and getting eggs 399 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. You never you never know 400 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: how fans are going to react. But he was brave 401 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: enough to show his face here in Baltimore, So I 402 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: give him credit for that. But you threw eggs at 403 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: his car when he pulled up. Oh, I'd slashed his tires, 404 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: egg's car, put it up on blocks. He wasn't getting 405 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: out of here. Um no. But I met him at 406 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: this event, and uh, we did an interview with him, 407 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: and it was we wanted it to be a fun thing, 408 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: and I went to him and I kind of set 409 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: it up, Hey, I worked for the Ravens and we 410 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: want this to be a fun interview. And he was like, oh, 411 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: you were for the Ravens because they paying you enough. 412 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, if Mike's funny that you ask 413 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: what's enough? And what was that more? And he says, oh, 414 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, what, I'll give Azzi a call. You know, 415 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: I have no problem doing that. I'll give out a 416 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: call right now because it's not my money. I don't 417 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: care whose money it is. And uh, he just was 418 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: really nice and I enjoyed conversation with him. I think that, 419 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I like the dynamic between Hardball and Tomlin. 420 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: I think they're both more similar in a lot of ways, 421 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: and they are different, um, and they both have they 422 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: play into the rivalry. And I liked Tomlin, and I 423 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: think I've always enjoyed the interviews with him or at 424 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: the conference calls with him. But uh, I also I 425 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: like the edge that he brings to this game as well. Yeah, 426 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: do you like when Tomlin stepped on the field in 427 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: front of That goes back to the edge that he brings. 428 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: He'll do anything in man, even it involves stepping in 429 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the field to try to play force 430 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the player out of bounds, He'll do it. That was 431 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: so unreal. I will never forget the look, the grin 432 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: on his face looking up at the scoreboards. It was 433 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: so obvious. But then but then he like all the 434 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: like denials and the like I was looking up at 435 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the scoreboard and didn't see him. That was just oh, 436 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: it's high, just just totally made up, just a bunch 437 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: of malarkey. Oh god. There was part of me during 438 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: that whole thing that was like, tom Win, just come on, 439 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: just come clean, dude, you knew exactly what you were doing. 440 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Just come clean, give me a break. That was an 441 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: all time classic moment in the East in this rivalry. 442 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: It really was. It's up there with one of the 443 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: one of the best moments I think it was. And 444 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: Ravens ended up winning that game, and we still put 445 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: the little graphic on the video boards. For those listeners 446 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: who don't get to come to a game. There's always 447 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: a public service announcement during every game that we run 448 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: that says, fans, you're not allowed to come onto the field, 449 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: and it's a little kind of demonstration of Tomlin jumping 450 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: on the field. So I'm sure that one will be 451 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: played Sunday at Mt. Banks of will as well. Yeah, 452 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: isn't it crazy? It's a one o'clock game. I mean, 453 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: when's the last time the Ravens and Steelers played at 454 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: one o'clock? Well, actually, I think the last time they 455 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: played was one o'clock game last year, So there wasn't 456 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: it was Week sixteen last year? Because did that get 457 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: like flexed out? I think it was the Mountain mountplayed 458 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: so too straight. Yeah, so the last time they played 459 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: was a one o'clock game. Go back. This goes back 460 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: to the misinformation. The better question is when's the last 461 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: time we should do some research on this. When's the 462 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: last time there have been back to back Raven Steelers 463 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: games that have been one o'clock games. That's a great question. Sure, Yeah, 464 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I bet it's a while. Yeah. Uh do you think 465 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: this rivalry is just as good as ever? By the way, 466 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: this wasn't on the rundown. I'm just adding it. I 467 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: don't think it is because, um a little bit. I 468 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: think that when you know, last year the Ravens were 469 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: five and eleven, so there's a little bit of steam 470 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: that comes out of a win, that comes out of 471 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: your sales as a result of that, I think that 472 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: some of the main characters who have been in this 473 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: and everybody knows who who those are, It's Ray and 474 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: Ed and Heinz Ward. Uh, they're all gone. So I 475 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: think that you lose a little bit of steam. Heloti 476 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: little Keith Miller. Yeah, you know, and like the new 477 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: guys who have come up in the rivalry, there's not 478 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: does is much bad blood, Like I don't sense as 479 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: much bad blood between like Antonio Brown and Jimmy Smith. 480 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's not like a ray Lewis Hignes Award situation. 481 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: So I think they've lost a little bit of that. 482 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: And I also think that the bad blood the feud 483 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: between these Steelers and the Bengals has elevated so that, 484 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: you you know, then it's a little tougher to get 485 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: up for both games. From a fan base standpoint, I 486 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: still think it's one of the best, but I think 487 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: that not quite as good as it was a couple 488 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: of years ago. A few years ago, I would agree, Well, 489 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: in the Bengals, you have perfect you know, and there's 490 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: like more drama there. There's more of a storyline there 491 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: because you have the villains, you know, and uh so, 492 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: and they've met in the playoffs. I mean, when you 493 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: don't meet in the playoffs now they did the Ravens 494 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: and Steelersteen, but the Bengals and Steelers have met the 495 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: last year. Did they meet the year before that? I 496 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: don't think so, But I agree. I think that now 497 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: it's almost like the rivalry Ravens Steelers is just as 498 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: big as Ravens Bengals or Steelers Bengals. I would say 499 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: they're own par It used to be definitely raven Steelers 500 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: I think was the king, but I don't know that 501 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: that's been the case and it Suggs is really the 502 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: last remaining vestige of that rivalry and that's why he's 503 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: so fun Well, I'm so glad that he's not done 504 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: for the season and he's in the locker room because 505 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: this week, I I look forward to the Suggs press 506 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: conference in Steelers Week every single year. Sure, he's got 507 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: a T shirt that he's been holding out for this 508 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: entire week, and he's got a package. He's ready to go. 509 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: He's he wants to wear it, and he's gonna make 510 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: it fun. Yeah. So, so what do you think about Ben? 511 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna play? I've said, ah, long, 512 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play. He was practicing last week, 513 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: So I think they'll get out there and play and 514 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's so funny. Like we're probably gonna be 515 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: talking about this up and down through the entire week 516 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: because there's been conflicting reports on whether or not he's 517 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: gonna play. It's a six week injury, then it's a 518 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: two week injury, and then all back on the field 519 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: ten days later. So my gut says that he's gonna play. 520 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I know, you think that he's not gonna play. I 521 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: think he's not gonna play. Well, we have conflicting reports. 522 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Now that's what says, you know, yeah, and lack Forest 523 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: says yes, but yeah, I think that. Uh, I think Ben. 524 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: With Ben, it's always a show man every time. It's 525 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: just the drama of how long is it gonna be back? Oh, 526 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: he's back to practice. Oh man, It's just you can 527 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: count on it. Every single year. There's gonna be a 528 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: soap opera around Ben and his injuries and oh but 529 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: he returns out and grinds it out. Now, he doesn't 530 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: always return. He does not always. I didn't say he 531 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: always returns. I said he often returns. And you go 532 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 1: back and everyone says the Ben's always hurt, and he 533 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: often is hurt. But you look at the number of 534 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: games that he's missed, looking up over the past few years, 535 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: how many games he's missed in the season, it's not 536 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot. It's because he plays hurt. Because injuries aren't 537 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: as bad as he makes them seem. Sure, that's fine, 538 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: but man, he still comes back and say I said it, 539 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: he still comes back in place. I mean, this is 540 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: a meniscus tear. That's not like it's a minor thing. 541 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: So and that's why I think he's actually gonna miss 542 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: this game. This isn't like, This isn't like. You know, 543 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: he rolls his ankle and then and then like comes 544 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: back in the fourth quarter leads them to a game 545 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: winning drive. Oh my god, Ben played on one leg. 546 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: He wrote his ankle, all right, let's send her down 547 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, he's getting carried by his 548 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: Aligneman throws the game when he touchdown, limps off the fuel, 549 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: scrambles for the game winner, lips off the field. Dragon 550 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: one leg. You just have You've you've had your heartbroken 551 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: too many times, so I've been ro off. Maybe that's 552 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the case. You just start whining about him. Maybe that's 553 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: the case. That's what it is. I mean, he's a 554 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: good correc I'll give that. He's pretty good. But I 555 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: do think he's a little bit over dramatic with the injuries. 556 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: I'll say that. Yeah, I don't think that you're alone 557 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: in that. Uh so, Antonio Brown is pretty good player. 558 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember when Mike Wallace came in and told 559 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: the story with he and Webb and the having to 560 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: squash that with Antonio Brown. If you haven't listened to 561 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: that podcast, you gotta go back and check it out. 562 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: That's a teaser. Go back listen to Mike Wallace podcast. 563 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: He has some good stuff about the Steelers going back 564 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: to face his former team. So, Antonio Brown, would you 565 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: shadow him with Jimmy? Would you not? What do you 566 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: think they have not really done that with my with 567 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown Jimmy in the past, and so I would, 568 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: But but Leslie Fraser came out last week and basically said, like, 569 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy's playing in a top five What did he say? 570 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: Said that he's having as fine of a season as 571 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: a corner as anybody in the league. So it's obvious 572 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: that he's the Ravens top option there. Yeah. But then 573 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I also asked the plan in terms of shadowing him 574 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: more often with Antonio Brown, and they have done it 575 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: a little bit. They did it with Brandon Marshall, They 576 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: did it with Sammy Watkins in Week one. They did 577 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: it a little bit with Terrell prior in the Browns game. 578 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: I sense a pattern there and type of receiver exactly. 579 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: That is what the difference is. Antonio Brown doesn't look 580 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: anything like brands More in the Odell Beckham kind of more. 581 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: And they didn't do it with Odell. Now, Jimmy didn't 582 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: play the second half of that game, so they didn't 583 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: even have an opportunity to do it there. But in 584 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: the first half they weren't shadowing him. So my gut 585 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: says that they won't do it. They had Will Davis 586 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: on him last year in Pittsburgh, and maybe Will Davis 587 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: will be on him again this year a lot. You know, 588 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's Tavon Young has been a bright spot in 589 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: that secondary He he might get that assignment a number 590 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: of times. Now, Jimmy gonna get it. Sometimes he's not 591 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: shadowing him, he'll still get him at times. But uh, 592 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't think that he's gonna 593 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: shadow and Tavon Young. Leslie Fraser also a very high 594 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: price for him, talking about him being one of the 595 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: bright spots of the season, how he's been a pleasant 596 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: surprise and all that, and he's a playmaker, And I 597 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: think they're gonna keep Tavon Young. It's the outside corner, 598 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: that's the other opposite from Jimmy Smith. You know, it 599 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: opened with the years Sharis and Jimmy. I think Tavon 600 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Young has now won that job. I would agree with that. Yeah, 601 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: So you said you don't think they're gonna do it. 602 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Would you have Jimmy shadow? It's tempting. I know I 603 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: still probably would say no. They have so many good 604 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: receivers even if you have Jimmy shadow him. I mean, 605 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: Sammy Coates can beat you, Marcus Sweet and if he's healthy, 606 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's gonna be healthy enough for 607 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: this game. I mean, they have some options out there 608 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: that I don't know that if you just eliminate Antonio 609 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: that you have the game one. And now I'm not 610 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: even saying that if you put Jimmy on Antonio that 611 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: she's eliminating him. I don't think it would. But no, 612 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so because you have to change the 613 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: whole defense. Dean Pieces talked about this. When you shadow, 614 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: everything else changes. It affects the safeties, it affects everybody. 615 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: So I don't know that it's worth worthwhile to do that. Yeah, 616 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: and also you can't disguise as much because you have 617 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: one guy just following somebody wherever he goes on the field. 618 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: So I'm with you, I probably wouldn't do it as 619 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: tempting as the idea is. Antonio Brown is on my 620 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: fancy team, So I'm in quite a pickle. Are you 621 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna start him? That's the question I think I have 622 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: to write. Well, you can tell Jimmy Smith or Tavon 623 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Young that what do you think they'd say, Hey, Jimmy, 624 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm starting Antonio Brown this week. He probably would not care. 625 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: He probably would just like he probably just laughing. We 626 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: should ask Jimmy whether if he played fancy football, would 627 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: he started Antonio Brown this week? That can That would 628 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: be a fun answer. We'll put you on that story. 629 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: You can get to the bottom of that question. I 630 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: think I might ask him that just at the end 631 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: of why would he Why would he say yes? He's 632 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: essentially saying yes, I think this player is going to 633 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: have a great game against me in this defense? Is 634 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: he just you know, Antonio Brown is a good player, 635 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: and you've heard players before say well they're gonna get 636 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, I mean, I don't stick to you know, 637 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to get one catch for five yards. 638 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: You would have Antonio Brown. You would have a Steeler 639 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: as your first pick. I draw the line, I don't. 640 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I would have been a team didn't. He's different for 641 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback, it's not that different when his main target 642 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: was your number one pick. I think the number one 643 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: pick in the entire draft. No number two? Okay, who's 644 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: number one? Girl? Yeah? You took Antonio Brown with your 645 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: very first pick. That tells the listeners a lot about you. 646 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: Would you have taken him? No? I took Zeke Kelly. 647 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: I do it again in the heartbeat. You took him 648 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: after Antonio Brown was off the board. Yeah. And if 649 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: I had the number two picks and Elliott, you would 650 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: have taken Zeke number two. Oh yeah, yeah right. Really 651 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: easy to say when you're not. That's why your team 652 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: stinks too, That's why your team is not any good. 653 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm a perennial juggernaut. Randy Minx is a perennial juggernaut 654 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: in Cube World Fantasy. How many championships have you won? Is? 655 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: This is about winners and losers. It's a lot like 656 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: a nonut, But I get to the game. I'm the 657 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills of fantasy football. I get to the championship 658 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: game every year. I just can't finish it off. There's 659 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: winners and losers, and you're definitely a loser. Well for 660 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: all your fantasy owners out there, uh, I think I 661 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: think it's okay to start answering your brown this week. 662 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you a pass. I'll give you a pass. 663 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, fantasy football is a super end. So thank 664 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: you so much for listening. 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