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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is actually real life friends

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Speaker 1: with Move the Sticks. Welcome back Fogus to another edition

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Speaker 1: to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Handers,

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Speaker 1: and I am joined in room that's filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rose a ball. What's up boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey dan Ah Bah. Stuff to be at work right now, weekend,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of dad's in Vegas, then the five you know,

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Speaker 1: four and a half five hour drive back to l A. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean certainly we want you to to become a man

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Speaker 1: of my age, my late thirties. Now. It takes a

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Speaker 1: few days to get back. So I'm just letting everybody now,

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Speaker 1: no pre show grade from the old Zeuser as your

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Speaker 1: host D minus who the gentleman. That's for your own personal,

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Speaker 1: my own personal, the our show pre show grade I'll

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Speaker 1: save for the end of this open. This was your

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Speaker 1: swan song in Vegas. I'm thinking about hanging up, hanging

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Speaker 1: up to the cleats, just like I didn't like. You

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Speaker 1: turned this Vegas trip into what Ozzy Knewsom did with

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Speaker 1: his last draft and similar praise from the Football COGNIZENTI

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Speaker 1: people just standing up and cheering you as you walked

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Speaker 1: out of the sports book. We need a spice Rack

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Speaker 1: update because I saw some random tweets from him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: spice Rack and I were in communication via text. We

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Speaker 1: which was a bummer, but we did. I I did

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Speaker 1: see a around the NFL podcast listener approached me and uh,

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Speaker 1: study enjoyed our work, which was really a great move

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Speaker 1: considering it happened in front of all my friends, UH,

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Speaker 1: and that led to them being filled with jealousy and envy,

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Speaker 1: which is really what you want. Uh. You want to

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Speaker 1: win into personal battles with your best friends, with every yes,

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Speaker 1: every interpersonal battle in your life. Right, So everybody else

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Speaker 1: had to take stock what am I really doing in

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Speaker 1: my career in my life, and I was just like

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Speaker 1: soaking it up doing the Pope handshake. You really did

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Speaker 1: win the week as it's great to hear you vocalize

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Speaker 1: you know all these inside of your brain. Some of

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Speaker 1: these men listen to the podcast too, so it might

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Speaker 1: be the end of the friendship West. You also had

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Speaker 1: a nice saucy weekend. I heard we hung out the

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Speaker 1: Paramore and I hung out with Tiffany Blackman on Saturday

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Speaker 1: acting yesterday. The paramore's cousin was in town from St. Louis.

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Speaker 1: So I went over my limit of fun for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't doubt that West that you had

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Speaker 1: fun this weekend, Greg, and you got down? I imagine

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Speaker 1: I did go out for my wedding anniversary eleven eleven years.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the whole night. Okay, alright, So Greg

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Speaker 1: had a nice weekend too. We hope all the listeners

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Speaker 1: had a nice weekend. It is now Friday, and this

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Speaker 1: is uh what I'm talking about. That's how you get

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Speaker 1: a D minus. This is not Friday, literally opposite of Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, and we have a nice show. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: plow through the show. The pre show great. Here a

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Speaker 1: very solid C plus. That's the upside, very solid. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna do some news, including Big Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: saucy stuff. Also, Chris Wessling wrote a banger Top ten

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Speaker 1: Offenses the National Football I can't hear that siren anymore.

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Speaker 1: I heard it all weekend. I think it's not a

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Speaker 1: good show. Off the show. Everybody. Yeah, this is a

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Speaker 1: terrible for the show ahead. Speak for yourself. Weeks. So

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Speaker 1: the top ten office are gonna carry league? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: still on jury duty. We believe all week that's the plan.

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Speaker 1: believe it. There's a lot of corroborating, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like a nice, perfect timing for an

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Speaker 1: could look at it like that, or you could look

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Speaker 1: at it like he's joining a group that he can

427
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Speaker 1: only improve to a certain level, and I would rather

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Speaker 1: see him at a certain you think they'll pull him down.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you'd rather him sign with a star

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Speaker 1: team rather than a team that's kind of middling or worse, right,

431
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Speaker 1: or just be by himself, like like, all I know

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Speaker 1: is that you do not want to run into Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler or or myself on the Sunday mornings where we

434
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Speaker 1: turn on the Old Game at ten am and you

435
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Speaker 1: realize you got old gumble and people make people are

436
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: making comments, people streets talking. When Mark would get it,

437
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Speaker 1: it would like it would immediately put him in a

438
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Speaker 1: bad movie too. I totally understand it. I wouldn't say,

439
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you guys stand and

440
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Speaker 1: we're talking talking Gumbi and Green here he had he

441
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Speaker 1: had a streak of Gumbi and Green that was tough

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Speaker 1: last season. I wouldn't say that they maybe. Opinions vary

443
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Speaker 1: on this. They never take away from the game or

444
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Speaker 1: the point where I'm like liking the game, I'm watching less,

445
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Speaker 1: but are they bringing anything to the table? Opinions definitely

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00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: vary on that one. In other news, Richard Ditch of

447
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: The Athletic reported that Joe test It, Tore and Jason

448
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Speaker 1: Witten will be a two man booth on Monday Night

449
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Speaker 1: Football and Booger McFarlane the good natured giant former NFL player?

450
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Speaker 1: Is that a good way to describe someone? A good

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Speaker 1: natured giant football fella? There, it's just on the borderline

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Speaker 1: of offensive. I feel like, I don't know where giant,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how, I don't know, but it feels

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Speaker 1: like a compliment to that point. It did ring a

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Speaker 1: bell in my own head as I was saying it

456
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Speaker 1: is that. Okay, he's a good natured giant. Feels fine

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Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, okay, he's gonna be the quote field

458
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Speaker 1: analyst of this team. And then, uh, poor Lisa Saulters.

459
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Speaker 1: She had that whole field to herself and now she

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Speaker 1: uh stays on. She's the only one who survives the

461
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Speaker 1: Monday Night football purge. She's the sideline reporter, So I

462
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Speaker 1: guess she has to stay on the sideline. She can't

463
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Speaker 1: move anywhere because you got the affable giant everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the combination of the good natured even

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Speaker 1: might be more offensive than the giant part. Anyways, I

466
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Speaker 1: like good nature to put down somehow. I don't know

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Speaker 1: him in with faint praise. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: word is the field. I think this has really good potential.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I don't know Booger McFarland's track record that

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Speaker 1: well because he's a college football guy, so you know

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Speaker 1: at ESPN. But I like the idea of kind of

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Speaker 1: the x as and those guys on the field. I

473
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Speaker 1: know they tried it with Tony sirag Goose that maybe

474
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Speaker 1: that wasn't the right guy to execute that vision, but

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Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick did it in the Pro Bowl. And I

476
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Speaker 1: think Booger McFarland is very He is a likable guy,

477
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Speaker 1: and I think he's going to kind of add that

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Speaker 1: sort of like XS and OS sideline thing. It's like

479
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Speaker 1: trying something something. I would love to be a fly

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Speaker 1: on the wall in this meeting where someone throughout this line, Hey,

481
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Speaker 1: what if we revived the old Tony Sea Goosa rule?

482
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Speaker 1: How how does that happen? But I think the actual,

483
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Speaker 1: hopefully execution of it's gonna be be a little different.

484
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Speaker 1: So it's not another sideline reporter. It's basically another guy

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Speaker 1: that chimes in, not as often as a third man

486
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Speaker 1: in the booth, but he's gonna he's gonna be hining

487
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Speaker 1: in with some Sara Goose. Thing was more than an

488
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Speaker 1: experiment by the way, it lasted years, and it felt

489
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Speaker 1: like it lasted decades. I mean, did he ever contribute

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Speaker 1: anything to the broadcast? Right? But that's not Buger McFarland's fault,

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Speaker 1: you know. Throw it down to uh Tony Sargos and

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh, from my vantage point, that was a

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Speaker 1: heck of a play back to you, it's like they're

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Speaker 1: about to wear their long cleats when they try down

495
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Speaker 1: that Salters territory. Though, that's where he gets tricky. That

496
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Speaker 1: will not be Booger's territory. Richard Ditch reported this, and

497
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Speaker 1: as part of that he said twelve people tried out

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Speaker 1: for that job that Witten got, and it sounded like

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Speaker 1: McFarland was another was one of those twelve as well.

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Speaker 1: So he made an impression on them. I believe Bruce

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Speaker 1: Arians was one of those twelve. Uh two did not

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Speaker 1: did not wind up getting the job. Why why not

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Speaker 1: just have a three man booth. I don't get this

504
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Speaker 1: field analyst thing. They're just trying to mix it up,

505
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Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel if you will see if it works.

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Speaker 1: You sound skeptical. I have no taker you, I think

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Speaker 1: West Yeah, I don't. I don't see how that adds

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Speaker 1: to the broadcast in any meaningful way at all. He said,

509
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Speaker 1: I'm looking in these broadcasts for some announcers who can

510
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Speaker 1: teach me things, and not enough of them are like that.

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo is absolutely McFarland once every twenty seven minutes

512
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Speaker 1: is gonna my guests. He'll be more involved, and that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be part of his role. We'll see. You gotta

514
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Speaker 1: be good at doing it. But he's been with ESPN

515
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Speaker 1: for four years like this as the potential to really

516
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Speaker 1: annoy Mark Sessler. Oh my god, you're right and uh

517
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Speaker 1: and I think we all agree that Monday Night Football

518
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Speaker 1: was due for a change. It was not working, as

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Speaker 1: we talked about before um Gruden left. So let's see

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Speaker 1: what this work. This works finally, as Yes, you heard

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Speaker 1: from Todd Bowls earlier today he was great. I want

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Speaker 1: to play right now. Regarding Sam Donald, who's in his

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Speaker 1: initial practices as the future and the turning point in

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Speaker 1: the history of the New York Jets. His arrival, I

525
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of tweets about what does Keith Hanss

526
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Speaker 1: think about uh the move and uh haven't had a

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Speaker 1: chance to unveil the voicemail from Keith, but now at

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Speaker 1: this time his thoughts on Sam Donald to the Jets

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Speaker 1: at number three overall his name was Keith. He's dands dad.

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Speaker 1: He'll doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. Well

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Speaker 1: does he go to say that game to say, well,

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Speaker 1: does he go pull that? I think Sam Donald was

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Speaker 1: a great pick to the Jets. He's the man they

534
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Speaker 1: wanted from the beginning, and I believe he has the

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Speaker 1: intangibles needed to be a star in the NFL. Um

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Speaker 1: the Jets A certainly do. They've grabbed twenty four quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy six, and enough for to replace my

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Speaker 1: hero Joe Willie Go Jets. He's very excited. Yes, he's

539
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Speaker 1: very excited. I mean my dad was born in the fifties,

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Speaker 1: early fifties, and since nineteen seventy five, he's seen them all,

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Speaker 1: all the horrible quarterbacks. I just started. My jet fandom

542
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: really started uh in Earnest right around Browning Nagle in

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Speaker 1: ninety two, and it's been a holacious healthscape of twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. Uh kids got the Ken O'Brien, Richard Todd,

545
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Speaker 1: Pat Ryan uh and all the other who bumps in between.

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Speaker 1: So who is the best one drafted and all that

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Speaker 1: span had to be Chad Pennington? I guess Brian Pennington

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Speaker 1: and O'Brien, you've had some had some top ten to

549
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Speaker 1: twelve guys and you said you claim that that like that,

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Speaker 1: that even that alone, you'd be happy about that if

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Speaker 1: you can just finally get a serviceable guy that although

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Speaker 1: I think now Sam Donald's raised the bar and that

553
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Speaker 1: if he if he has Ken O'Brien's career, are you

554
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Speaker 1: gonna be happy? No? No, no, I don't think. I

555
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Speaker 1: think if he I don't know, if he is kind

556
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Speaker 1: of like a Matt Stafford type career, that would I

557
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: would definitely sign off on that. But the excitement of

558
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: all this is that maybe he's way better than that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Keiths excited when he's throwing Joe Namath's

560
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Speaker 1: name around. That's true. That's true when Joe Willie comes up, uh,

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00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: and his name has been coming up a lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot with Sam Donald. I think Donald is the right

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Speaker 1: attitude to handle that type of pressure. But we're gonna

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Speaker 1: find out. Oh, it's good to be a Jet fan

565
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: right now. Anyway, in this exact moment, it is all right,

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Speaker 1: there we go, that's what's happening in the news. Now.

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling wrote what he calls a sub banger. But Greg,

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Speaker 1: you and I both know that west is a gifted

569
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Speaker 1: football analyst and he really has a way with words.

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Speaker 1: So even a sub banger from west I don't even

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Speaker 1: believe it. Well, what I'm saying very high standard for

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Speaker 1: an off season banger. A sub banger from west though,

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Speaker 1: is someone else's supreme banger. So I still think. Check

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Speaker 1: it out at NFL dot com slash Westling the top

575
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Speaker 1: ten offenses in the National Football League. So let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. Wes. Now, my first question, first of all,

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Speaker 1: let me get this list of that's important. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: You have that number one, so that's the front at

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Speaker 1: the top, and some people are gonna say they're a

580
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Speaker 1: little surprised by this New Orleans Saints the number one

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Speaker 1: offense in the league. What makes them to you? Are

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Speaker 1: they head and shoulders above the number two team you

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Speaker 1: have here are the Patriots and then the Steelers are three?

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Speaker 1: Or is it really kind of a toss of it?

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00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're head and shoulders. In fact, the

586
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Patriots led in every meaningful metric last year for offense.

587
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Speaker 1: They were number one and everything. But they've also lost

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Speaker 1: a guy who was one of the hottest running backs

589
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: in the league down the stretch and Dion Lewis. They

590
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: lost their deep threat in Brandon Cooks, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have anyone else on the roster really who has that

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Speaker 1: skill set. And they lost their left tackle. So there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions on the Patriots offense. They do

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Speaker 1: get Edelman and Malcolm Mitchell back, and they drafted Sony Michelle,

595
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Speaker 1: but those are question marks. Greg I was surprised to

596
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Speaker 1: see the Patriots as high as they were, so I

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, you know, as a as a Patriots

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Speaker 1: Did you see the last incredible Yeah? And then and that,

599
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: and I think to your point you just mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: the options they have to they had a plan eventually

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Speaker 1: for how to replace They don't really have a vertical

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00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: receiver Cooks, I think wasn't exactly what they wanted out

603
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: of a vertical receiver either, but they are deep at receiver.

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Speaker 1: I think they believe Sony Michelle will be an upgrade

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Speaker 1: for Dion Lewis. That has to play out. And one

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00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: move that has gotten has been pretty under the radar

607
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: was their trade for Trent Brown, who people around New

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Speaker 1: England now seemed to think has a good chance to

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Speaker 1: start at left tackle, a position he did not play

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Speaker 1: much in San Francisco, So we'll see if that works.

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Speaker 1: Two seems high. I would not even put the Patriots

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Speaker 1: number two. I would put the Steelers either one or two,

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Speaker 1: just because the continuity you have with Rogers, I mean Roethlisberger, Bell,

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Speaker 1: Brown and that offensive line. So that's eight of their

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Speaker 1: eleven starters on offense. You don't see a group that

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Speaker 1: good stay together that long. Too long. The Patriots have

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time, in the greatest tight

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Speaker 1: end of all time, still playing as well as they've

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Speaker 1: ever played. And you know, Juju Smith Schuster is another

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Speaker 1: guy you think and maybe even take a step they

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Speaker 1: felt good enough Pittsburgh about Smith Schuster to trade Martavis Bryant,

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Speaker 1: So you gotta love them this the Saints, though, just

623
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Speaker 1: the the skill talent all over the field, playing in

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Speaker 1: that building, with the quarterback who's master. You look for

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00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: a weakness in that offense. We we talked about the

626
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: tight end earlier, so that's one. Ben Watson isn't a

627
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: guy who's making people miss after the catch anymore. But

628
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Speaker 1: to me, the biggest weakness is the backup quarterback. If

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees goes down, their playoff hopes are over because

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage is their number two. And if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about only the backup quarterback as your problem, that's a

632
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: pretty good offense. Yeah, Cameron Meredith, I think can add something.

633
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Speaker 1: When mark Ingram is your second best running back, that's incredible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the that duo and that offensive line, which

635
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: had so many injuries last year. That's why injuries. Teams

636
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: that blame their season on injuries are usually fans are

637
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: just kind of taking the easy way out because teams

638
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: like the Saints or the Patriots for that matter, they'll

639
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: have crazy injuries and they'll figure it out. And that's

640
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Sean Payton who is still getting it done as a

641
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: play caller after all these years. Whatever reputation he has,

642
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: like he has earned it, Like that he is right near,

643
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: if not the top of the list of the guys

644
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: you want. But no issues have always been the rest

645
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: of the other side of the ball, even even during

646
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: their down days that they were one of the best

647
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: offenses in the league every year. The only only hesitation

648
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: I would have not that Drew Brees really showed that

649
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: he was in any level decline, but he is now

650
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: another year older. And then Kamara and Ingram that was

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: an altar literally the best tandem season of all time.

652
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Uh do they do that every single year? Probably not.

653
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Will they ever be that good again? Maybe not? Uh

654
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: So they need to kind of continue to perform in

655
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: tandem at that level. Are close to it for this offense,

656
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: I think to be number one but not impossible? Was no,

657
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: I agree, and I looked to forth on this list

658
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: of Falcons. That could be a model of how the

659
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: Saints running backs come back to the pack a little

660
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: bit like DeVonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman did last year.

661
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: But that's still a great tandem in Atlanta. That's and

662
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: then you add Calvin Ridley to the wide receiver corps.

663
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Again an offense where the backup quarterback seems to be

664
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: the biggest problem. Maybe the play caller. Yeah, I think

665
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: Starcusing is a guy that I worry about the most.

666
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: There that's giving them some love, which I'm totally on

667
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: board with. If if people have been listening to these

668
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: podcasts last couple of weeks, like I am very high

669
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: on this Falcons team to stay near the top of

670
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: the NFL. But I think the perception out there after

671
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: last season is no one. Most people would not consider

672
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: them the fourth best offense in the league anymore. Well,

673
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: I think most people look at they look at basic

674
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: stats like total offense points per game. If you look

675
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: at the metrics, they were second and drive success rate

676
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: and second in yards per drive last season. The field.

677
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: We talked about this on the last podcast. They just

678
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: had bad luck on turnovers and in the red zone.

679
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: And you know, some some of it is Sarkasian's play

680
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: only he didn't maximize guys like Taylor Taylor Gabriel. He

681
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: didn't get Tevin Coleman the ball in space enough. If

682
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: he can get better at that, I think the Falcons

683
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: can just as easily go back to number one. If

684
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: it's May, then Wesley or Rosental writing bangers, you know

685
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers are gonna be the top five of things here.

686
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: They are sitting at number five five, the number five

687
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: offense and all football according to west tell Us. Why

688
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Chris Well. They won six of their last seven games

689
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: last year. They were one of the best offenses already,

690
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: so I expect. And then the number seven overall pick

691
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: in the draft, Mike Williams really gave him nothing. He

692
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: figured he's gonna have a bigger rule this year. Hunter

693
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Henry I thought was a top five tight end by

694
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and with Antonio Gates no

695
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: longer around, you have to worry about that. The offensive

696
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: line is improved with Mike Pouncey coming in as a center,

697
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: and they've got a couple of second year guards there

698
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: looked promising. I don't really see a weakness on this

699
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: offense except maybe running back depth. Mhm. If I'm if

700
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm giving awards though for this list just about you

701
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: know I would give the award to This is a mouthful,

702
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: but you know the fan base with the best change

703
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: to be piste off award. It goes to the Eagles.

704
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, what the Eagles are two spots behind the

705
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Chargers after dropping a forty burger in the Super Bowl.

706
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: The backup, stop back, I I just and I get

707
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: and you can explain why you you put them there

708
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: there behind some other offenses. But to me, they have

709
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: the best chance to rise if you make this list

710
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: again at the end of the year, because they have

711
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: a chance, I think to be one of the very

712
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: best offenses. Well, I'm not really gonna put the recency

713
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: bias of the Super Bowl is like to decide did

714
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: what the Chargers end of the season. You know, that's

715
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: seven games, not one. They Eagles finished ninth and waited

716
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: d b o A eleven yards per drive in seventh

717
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: and total offense, they were not like some jugger not

718
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: that people couldn't stop. Where were they before Carson wentz Tour?

719
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: But they were higher because but now he's coming in

720
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: often he's not gonna be the same quarterback coming off

721
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: in a c L surgery. Yeah, I'm I'm less worried

722
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: about what all these teams did last season and more

723
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: just projecting forward. And I love their offensive line in general.

724
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Do you project the loss of Frank Wright and John D.

725
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: Flippo hurting them at all not a ton again, And

726
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong about that that I'm I'm because

727
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to wrap your head around how

728
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: much they matter or not. But when your head coach

729
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: is it's like, if Andy Reid and then maybe this

730
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: is giving Doug Peterson a little too much credit of

731
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: Andy Reid loses his offensive coordinator, I don't think the

732
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Chief's offense is gonna get worse, and so Peterson just

733
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: lost it. I kind of trust in his system and

734
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: his quarterbacks and their talent, and they're just a team.

735
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: I kind of expect he'll be just very tough to

736
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: defend week after week. And if their quarterback was not

737
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: coming off in a c L and L c L injury,

738
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: they would be higher on this list. Another fan base

739
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: that is gonna get angry. In West I I think

740
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: you could fend for yourself. Maybe you're not all the

741
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: way back physically after your cancer win, but at the

742
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: same time, I know you could take care of yourself.

743
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: But in Los Angeles, when you put those Rams at

744
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: number seven and you order eight, excuse me, and you

745
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: got a team that led the league in points scoring

746
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: less year they add Brandon Cooks. They got all that

747
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: talent and arguably the best running back in Todd Gurley.

748
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: Shouldn't they be a little bit higher? Would you believe?

749
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: The two thousand seventeen l A Rams finished behind the

750
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: tamp A Bay Buccaneers, considerably behind the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

751
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: and drive success rate in yards per drive. The Rams

752
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: scored a lot of points because they have a brilliant

753
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but they did not move the ball consistently, turnovers, possessions,

754
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: short fields. They were good, they didn't move the ball.

755
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: They were an effective offense. I don't have a problem

756
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: with them being there, if only because the team's ahead

757
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: of them are all rock solid. The Packers. Packers have

758
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, so I'm just gonna put them ahead of

759
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks ahead of them are all better than Jared

760
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: goff the the Chargers. You know you're high on them,

761
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: and that makes sense. I I do it. I kind

762
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: of expect the Ramps to come back to the pack

763
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: a little bit on offense at least, and I I

764
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: don't think I actually, I'm pretty sure I'm not the

765
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: only one. But does anyone else think Jared Goff specifically

766
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: could really come back to the back. I'm not gonna

767
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: say rookie year Jared Goff, but maybe somewhere in the middle.

768
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: It's the big it's really the main question for that

769
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: team because you look at their offense and they have Girly,

770
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: but it's not like it's the loaded offensive weapons around.

771
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: They're good. Good happens to this offensive girly goes down.

772
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: They're in trouble. They're in big trouble, and so running

773
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: back depth is is a big issue for them. Brandy Cooks,

774
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Cooper Cup I like that. That's a nice

775
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: run widerit not maybe all world, but they can they

776
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: can get the job done. Tyler Higbee a tight end um,

777
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: not exactly grounk. It shows how deep the league is

778
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: on offense at the Vikings with with Cousins who I

779
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: know you like, with Dalvin Cook who I know you like,

780
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: and then Digs and deel and on the outside can

781
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: only be ninth. I don't have a huge issue with

782
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: them there because I don't know who I would put in,

783
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, I would put them ahead of But that's

784
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: a good looking offense to be number nine. Case Keenum

785
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: was a borderline stud last year in Minnesota's offense. We

786
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: talked about that last week that he was in a

787
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: really great set up. Now Kirk Cousins, who's a probably

788
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: a substantially better quarterback you should say than case Keenum

789
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: now steps into that offense. West. You put them in

790
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the bottom of your top a tenant number nine, but

791
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: some upside there to be even better. Right there is

792
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: and a lot depends on Dalvin Cook. Again, I have

793
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: a hard time penciling guys right into their pre injury

794
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: form when they're coming back from major knee injuries. So

795
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: he's a question mark. Uh. The wide receiver group is

796
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, I think, and

797
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line is questionable. Okay, I but a little

798
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: love from our West to the Detroit Lions usually is

799
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: punching bag. Yet they made the list over a number

800
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: of teams, but the Chiefs kind of stand out to

801
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: me as the team that that I would be afraid

802
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: to defend. I know, we have to see how it

803
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: goes with Patrick Mahomes, but just the weapons and the coach.

804
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: They finished in the knocking on the door category by

805
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Chris Yeah, I'm gonna bust down that door. I know

806
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: everyone loves Patrick Mahomes, but Patrick Mahomes gonna throw the

807
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: ball through the door. That's fine. But the way I

808
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: envisioned this offense, a young quarterback is gonna be making

809
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: rookie mistakes. They're gonna have turnovers, They're gonna have games

810
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: where they're not moving the chains. It's gonna happen. And uh,

811
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: because that is one of my principal roles on this podcast.

812
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: The New York Giants not even getting a knocking on

813
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the door, Well, they don't have a good call those weapons.

814
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: You need a good quarterback to have a good Hall

815
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: of Famer Eli Manning, Sae Kwon Barkley, who could be

816
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Todd Gurlsamer, But if right now, I wouldn't rank them high,

817
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, Evan Ingram. I mean, what else could you

818
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: want to improved offensive line? The Giants are going to

819
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: score some points. I've won a good quarterback. That's what

820
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: I would want in a good offense. I mean, I

821
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: knew that would be your replies. Well, I mean, honestly,

822
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: if you not watch the last two years. Uh, last year,

823
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: I am throwing out last year. No, I don't mean,

824
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean the way he's throwing the ball. He's not

825
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: the same guy he was, But I think the way

826
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: he escapes pressure a ton of weapons. You could argue,

827
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: yet no one has better weapons than him right now, right?

828
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean the offensive line is part of your weapons, right,

829
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's fixed. I actually don't count.

830
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: If we're talking football parlance, I don't count the offensive

831
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: line in weapons. However, it's very important that you bring

832
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: up with offensive line because it is a suspect of

833
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: it of what at best. Yeah, we'll we'll reconvene Wednesday

834
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: on the off season. Eli is Eli Manning gonna script

835
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: the Giants podcast. That's basically what we do every show

836
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: from here until September. About this, the Buccaneers, Texans, uh,

837
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: and forty Niners. I thought all of those have a better,

838
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: uh more deserving of top ten mentioned than the Giants.

839
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: They they got on the outs Panthers too. Yeah, forty

840
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Niners will be fascinating. Weirdly, I don't feel like we've

841
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: talked about them a lot this offseason. You would think

842
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: they'd be kind of a a buzz team. Like I

843
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in their coach and quarterback.

844
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: The rest of it is coming together and we have

845
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: to see like I don't I don't know. They to

846
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: me have the biggest gap maybe be between ceiling and

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Speaker 1: an NFL record if it lasted all season, and that's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen this year. Uh. So check it out

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Speaker 1: nfl dot Com slash Westling. I'm sure you'll get a

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Speaker 1: vanity u R eventually, Chris, we shall see. A man

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Speaker 1: it out the full right up from West Uh. The

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Speaker 1: next time you hear from us will be Wednesday. Three

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Speaker 1: shows this week, um and um. Greg is going to

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Speaker 1: I gotta come up with something. Usually that's a bit

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Speaker 1: what I actually have? I have something immediately popped into

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Speaker 1: so there you go. Now you gotta tune it. Greg's

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Speaker 1: looking forward to this. Yeah, this is one. This is

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited and I got that it kind of

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Speaker 1: sounded like that. The open Book. It's the Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: Open Book podcast coming up Wednesday, so you don't want

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Speaker 1: to miss it until then. This Dan Hands is signing

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Speaker 1: off for Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal and Lindsey Bolton Behind

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