1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Pann Welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you, 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Maureen Seberg back with us. Ostler Tech founder photographer. Marene 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: specializes in the senses. She is a super sensor with 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: a strong lab verified case of superhuman color vision in 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: multiple forms of synesesia. Maureen, welcome back. Have you been 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: it's been well? 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: How are you? It's such a pleasure to be with 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: you again. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Explain what synththesia is. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: Well, you and I both had that gift, don't we. George. 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: It's having bonus senses, so you might get a stimulus 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: like listening to music and see color. And it's actually 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: a very good memory device, and it's present in a 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: lot of creatives, from Marilyn Monroe to Lady Gaga, to 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: Billy Joel to George Nori. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: I love that. Would intuition be part of that? 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question. I know you're familiar 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: with Edwin May from the Stargate program, right He told 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: me that his top remote viewers, including Joe mcmonagle, are 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: all cinis thetes and in his private lab now he 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: only uses cinisthts for research. They're terribly intuitive. 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the sensors and break them down and 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: talk about how the human body has been so marvelous 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: with them. 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. So my last book you were kind enough to 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: have me on about was fearfully and wonderfully made the 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: astonishing science of the Census, and I rounded up all 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: the latest research in labs across America. And you know, George, 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: there's a real sensory research renaissance going on now, fueled 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: a lot by robotics. So they're trying to make the 32 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: robots sentient, and they're measuring what that would take, what 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: would make them more human like. And the good news 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: is humans are off the charts and there's no machine 35 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: that can match us. They have discovered that our eyes 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: can see down to the level of a single photon 37 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: without glasses, without anything at all. Our hearing is astonishing. 38 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 3: We can hear sounds with amplitudes smaller than the diameter 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: of an atom. Take we can smell a trillion sense. 40 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: They used to think it was ten thousand before this 41 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: renaissance of research began, and now they know it's a trillion. 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: They've actually put human beings on cent trails like hounds, 43 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: and we can follow it. So the title of the 44 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: book really summarizes it. We are fearfully and wonderfully made 45 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: humans are magnificent creatures. 46 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: I had an interesting discussion with one of our guests 47 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: this week, Maureen, about intelligent design, and my theory is 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: that there's got to be a god, whatever you want 49 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: to call him or it, because this is too complex, 50 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: it's too orderly, it's too well put together. And when 51 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: you look at the human body and we're going to 52 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: go through vision, hearing tastes, smell touch, who would think 53 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: of something like that? It's genius. 54 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: It is genius. And you know, even Darwin, who ascribed 55 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: to evolution as we know, said when he looked at 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: the human eye, he found it absurd to think it 57 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: evolved because it is so perfect. One of my teachers 58 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: is a medical anthropologist named Bill Bouschell, who I'd like 59 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: to send good what get Well wishes to right now, 60 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: but he calls us soft tissue high technology. I love 61 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: that we are. We are the highest technology, and yes, 62 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you, there must be a god. There 63 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: must be some intelligent design behind this. 64 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: How did you get involved in investigating the human senses. 65 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: Well, it all started because I'm a sensory outlier. Well 66 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm a journalist first and foremost, but I'm a sensory 67 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: outlier myself. I have many forms of synesthesia, and I 68 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: also have an extra set of cones in my retinas 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: that give me superhuman color vision. And I am one 70 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: of the strongest cases is ever recorded. There's a study 71 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: of eight women where all women so far out at 72 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: Arizona State University, and I was recently informed mine is 73 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: the strongest case. So I had a lot of curiosity 74 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: about this personally, and I also wanted to see what 75 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: other people were experiencing. Like there's a woman in my 76 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: last book who is just incredible. She's a retired nurse 77 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: and grandma in Scotland, Joy Milne, and do you know, George, 78 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: She can smell disease. She can diagnose people with Parkinson's 79 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: ten years before they show symptoms, ten years, ten years, 80 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: and she has helped scientists develop swap tests so that 81 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: we can so scientists can do it when she's not there. 82 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: Now that's not a cure, but it's a great early 83 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: start for intervention. And she also knows what COVID smells like. 84 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: Do you want to know what it smells like? 85 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: Not really, but tell me so you can run the 86 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: other way. 87 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: It smells like apple cider and infection. 88 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: What does infection smell like? 89 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: Kind of that sour kind of smell you know when 90 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: you have a bad stomach or something, you might taste it. Yeah. Yeah, 91 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: So she's working on other things like tuberculosis and cancer. 92 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: And you know she's also a cynysthete. So you mentioned 93 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: synesthesia earlier. Synesthesia seems to be the basis for a 94 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: lot of people with superabilities. So there's me with the vision, 95 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: there's Joy with super smelling. There are other folks who 96 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: are wined so Malier's and perfume experts who are also siniesthetes. 97 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: So something about these bonus senses wires our brain to 98 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: be more perceptive. 99 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, I had a story of 100 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: a dog and cats that were in hospitals that would 101 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: be able to sniff out cancers. I love that you 102 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: remember that. 103 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: I yes, I think we should explore this and talk 104 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: about this even more, because again, we were designed with 105 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: such extraordinary abilities. We should be using them, and we 106 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: should be using that of all the animals on Earth and. 107 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: I know you're going to want them after hearing this. 108 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: This is an amazing story. 109 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: We've got Stephen and Malachi Gregory in Nelson, New Zealand. 110 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: I understand that Malachi, who is eight almost nine years 111 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: old now, was suffering with not just one or two warts, 112 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: but I mean as significant outbreak of warts all over 113 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: his body, so signific and it impacted his ability to 114 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: really function. 115 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 116 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was having trouble even holding a pencil to right. 117 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: It was Tie's book actually that got me thinking about it. 118 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. 119 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: It is an amazing immunal modulator, and so I can 120 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 5: see that it would work. 121 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: And so at what point did you see that there 122 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: was actually improvement it's really going to work. 123 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: Well, we really started to notice it around twelve weeks. 124 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: You can see these things actually getting smaller and smaller, 125 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 5: and then going down to the with just little red marks. 126 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: The whole things are gone and we're talking about what's 127 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 5: you know one the size of the wanner. I thought, 128 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: no way, that's gonna Wow. That's just been miraculous to 129 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 5: see him get into a pair of shoes. 130 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: Yes, how wonderful. 131 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 5: It's great to see him so happy. 132 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, absolutely wonderful. 133 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: Friends that have seen it that is blown away. 134 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: TI, this is awesome. 135 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is awesome. 136 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 6: Another amazing story. Why we're talking about Carnivora. Call them 137 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 6: to awaken your immune system and protect yourself now called 138 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 6: one eight sixty six eight three six eighty seven thirty 139 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: that's one eight six six eight three six eighty seven 140 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 6: thirty five. Or visit carnivora dot com c A r 141 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 6: niv O r A carnivora dot com. 142 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: So let's go through some of the senses and explain 143 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: to us the human condition with them. First of all, 144 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: let's talk about how powerful overall are human senses. 145 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: Just beyond machines for sure. And you know, George, how 146 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: we like to talk about animal senses like the vision 147 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: of a hawk or the scent of a bloodhound. Right. Uh, 148 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 3: the other animals are extraordinary. But we can beat dogs 149 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: and rats in laboratory experiments. So you know, we we 150 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: should be protectors of the other animals and we should 151 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: know our place among them. We are a supreme among them. 152 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: We are super predators. And I like to say, if 153 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: you don't believe me, read the headlines, right, but we 154 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: should be using our abilities and our strength for good 155 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 3: that I think that's one of the great challenges of 156 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: being human. 157 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: We have several visually impaired listeners to our program who 158 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: called in every once in a while morene and I 159 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: applaud them. I'm not sure I could do what they do. 160 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: No, I think it's remarkable. And you know, they may 161 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: have stronger other senses, because our bodies tend to compensate 162 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: when one sense is injured or missing. So I bet 163 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: they have gifts beyond what we can even imagine. 164 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: And again, talk about the brilliancy who would create eyes 165 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: for crying out loud? Who would think they're. 166 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: So just incredibly complex and beautiful? Everyone's eyes, everyone's? And 167 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: how about the inner vision? Right? How about the pineal gland? 168 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: Do you know there are rods and crop and cones 169 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 3: and crystals deep within our brain in there, and that 170 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: may explain how we dream and have visions. 171 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: And eyes are something kind of opening to the soul, 172 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: aren't they? 173 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: I think so too. I think you can read a 174 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: lot about a person by looking at their eyes, not 175 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: just whether they shift when they're talking to you, but 176 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: there's something about looking into another person's eyes. You know 177 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: who you have in front of you if you're perceptive 178 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: at all. 179 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: And some eyes just look fantastic, others so so. So 180 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: what makes it that way? 181 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: You know? I've noticed that too, George. I think of 182 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: them all as beautiful because now I understand how complex 183 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: they are. But you can tell how someone's spirit is 184 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: doing by looking at their eyes. Some people are so 185 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: animated and their eyes are so lively and bright, no 186 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: matter the color of the shape or what have you. 187 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: And then other people just have a dullness over them, 188 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: and it usually makes me concerned for them. It might 189 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: be a depression, it might be an illness, but I 190 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: think we all have noticed that in people. 191 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: How about hearing, Where does that fit in? 192 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Well, we are just beyond again any machine when it 193 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: comes to hearing. We cannot only hear tiny, tiny little noises. 194 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: We can hear changes in frequency faster than any other animal. 195 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: But you know what I discovered recently, George, I'm researching 196 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: my next book, and this has to do with hearing. 197 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: I thought, Wow, our senses are so powerful. I bet 198 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: they confer advantages on other worlds. Right, They're so powerful 199 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: they would help us explore space. But I learned that 200 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: our senses are extremely specific to Earth. As powerful as 201 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: they are, they don't translate. And I'll give you a 202 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: hearing example. Do you know that we never would have 203 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: heard Neil Armstrong and his famous statement of one small 204 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: step for a man, one giant leap for mankind had 205 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: his helmet not been miked back to Earth. There is 206 00:13:55,160 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: no sound on the Moon, so we have to really 207 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: I'm not anti exploration, but we have to really think 208 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: about what life is going to be like out there 209 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: as we take these next steps. You know, the Earth 210 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: has one G of gravity, it has one hundred and 211 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: one kilopascals of atmospheric pressure. We've got a stable G 212 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: type sum, we've got a twenty four hour light dark cycle, 213 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: and we've got strong magnetic shielding and a chemically rich 214 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: atmosphere that carries sound, smell, and taste. I call that 215 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: the Earth's sensory envelope. It's really really specific. Within that envelope, 216 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: we are just phenomenal creatures. But take us not too 217 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: far out. I think we've all heard about astronaut health problems, 218 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: even in the International Space Station when they're up for 219 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: a while, and that's only two hundred miles up. That's 220 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: not even the Moon or Mars. So it's in this 221 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: next phase of human development we need to seriously think 222 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: about what it's going to be. How would you teach 223 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: a child to speak on Mars or the moon if 224 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: they can't hear their mom and dad? 225 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: Good point. And how would you categorize touch as a sense? 226 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Definitely. And do you know that touch is really 227 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: dependent on gravity, George. So if you're in a low 228 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: gravity environment, your skin doesn't react the same way it 229 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: does when it touches something. It requires the bubble of 230 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: gravity around it to perceive properly. So even our sense 231 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: of touch would be wildly skewed out there. 232 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 233 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 234 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: com for more