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Speaker 2: Sports where Hello, and welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. We

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Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio studios.

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Speaker 3: I am here with Steve Hartman.

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Speaker 2: This is such a treat for me to get to

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Speaker 2: co hose with you, Tracy.

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Speaker 4: Tracy, this is like an out of body experience for me.

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Speaker 4: I could not be happier. I'm excited about our show.

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Speaker 4: We were talking before the show, obviously, with so many

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Speaker 4: things going on, so many, so many overplayed NFL stories

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Speaker 4: already just a few days into training camp, so very

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Speaker 4: excited about the show today.

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Speaker 5: We got plenty to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I know in July is supposed to be a slow

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Speaker 2: time in sports, but not this week. You mentioned NFL

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Speaker 2: training camps underway, so many overplayed stories. Because someone throws

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Speaker 2: three interceptions into practice and it's over. Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: There's two sides. Either everyone's team is going to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl and it is their year, or it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a disaster because the starting quarterback through three

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Speaker 2: interceptions in a training camp practice and we might as

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Speaker 2: well pack it up right now.

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like and you cover NFL football and

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Speaker 4: have for a while, so you understand the process.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking for stories to sort of grab

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Speaker 4: the audience. You got to come up with something. So

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Speaker 4: if you're starting quarterback has a bad day, you know,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers throws an interception, disaster for the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: They're not going anywhere. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: We have the bear story with Caleb Williams struggling early

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Speaker 4: on with a new system from Ben Johnson. Wow, he's

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Speaker 4: struggling learning a new offense and training camp. These are

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Speaker 4: big non stories. But you know the idea each year

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Speaker 4: that it's a fresh start, and I always say this, Tracy,

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Speaker 4: and the record shows I'm right on this every single season.

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Speaker 4: When you look at the over unders, you know, predictions

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Speaker 4: for the year, there are five or six teams every

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Speaker 4: single year that far exceed expectations, and there are five

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Speaker 4: or six teams that fall way short of expectations.

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Speaker 5: So that's the guessing game.

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Speaker 4: When you try to predict the upcoming season, there will

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Speaker 4: be four or five teams. Guaranteed, there will be nowhere

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Speaker 4: near where people thought that there will be four or

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Speaker 4: five teams. They'll just you know, like the Commanders last year,

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Speaker 4: the Texans the year before last year. I picked the

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Speaker 4: Broncos to make the playoffs one of my few righte predictions, Tracy.

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Speaker 5: So it happens every year.

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Speaker 4: So again I would not overplay what's happening in training camp,

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Speaker 4: especially the first week.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: And as a reminders listeners, training camp. It's called training camp,

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Speaker 2: so they are supposed to make mistakes. Kayleb Williams learning

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Speaker 2: a new offense, he should struggle now, So in Siri,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't struggle.

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Speaker 3: During the season.

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Speaker 2: There may there will certainly be some ups and downs,

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Speaker 2: but that is the point of training camp. That's I

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Speaker 2: think that word training is really important for everybody.

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Speaker 5: It changed, you know, Tracy.

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Speaker 4: Again, I I'm really old, but I mean going back

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Speaker 4: to you know, in the eighties and nineties when training

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Speaker 4: camps literally opened the first week of July, double days

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Speaker 4: in July, and it was just an entirely different process,

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Speaker 4: and I could understand why players dreaded training camp because

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Speaker 4: it was seemingly endless even before you got to the

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Speaker 4: preseason games. So by the time we got to the

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Speaker 4: regular season, we're talking about two full months of training

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Speaker 4: camps with a lot of double days. And those are

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Speaker 4: also the days when during the regular season you were

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Speaker 4: in full pads on Wednesdays and Thursdays during the season, right,

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Speaker 4: so none of that exists anymore. So now it's short.

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Speaker 4: It's more of like, you know, getting things loose. And

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Speaker 4: we found out during the COVID season at twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: when there was no training camp, no preseason, and guess what,

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Speaker 4: the season looked pretty similar to any other season that

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Speaker 4: you know, you just the thing you don't want to

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Speaker 4: happen in training camp are injuries?

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Speaker 3: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately though for everybody, that was an excellent segue. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: there are already a number of injuries, some of them

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Speaker 3: But you hate to see that.

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Speaker 2: Especially this first week of training camp when they're not

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Speaker 2: couple of things start start. Talk about an overreaction story.

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Speaker 2: very scared. But immediately social media was a buzz. Of course,

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Speaker 2: it's over, this is what happens. He's today was participating

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Speaker 2: Over in Minnesota, Justin Jefferson has a hamstring strain.

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Speaker 3: This one. It's mild. He'll be reevaluated next week.

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Speaker 2: But this is the kind of injury when it starts

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Speaker 2: this early in training camp, you do want to keep

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Speaker 2: because that just means they're going to keep coming back.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're going to come back. If you come back

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Speaker 4: too soon, you have to let these injuries.

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Speaker 3: Heal, especially in training camp once again.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, I mean even during the regular season. We've seen

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Speaker 5: I get all that. But if you come back too

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Speaker 5: soon and then you re injure it, now your season

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Speaker 5: is over. This this is the cautionary tale. But it

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Speaker 4: We would talk about this in baseball all the time, right,

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Speaker 4: how we ask less of our pitchers than ever before, right,

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Speaker 4: and yet there seems to be more injuries than ever before.

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Speaker 4: Like the Dodgers right now have twelve pitchers on.

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Speaker 2: The il it's a bit of a mess. The guys

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Speaker 4: But it's the same thing with the NFL. It seems

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Speaker 4: like the less training. The idea of this was to

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Speaker 4: keep guys healthy. That was the idea of no more contact,

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Speaker 4: you know, during training camp, and certainly no more contact

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Speaker 4: and yet it seemed to have an adverse effect.

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Speaker 2: It does, and a lot of it too, is that

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Speaker 2: forty days of coaches and players talk about all the

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm assuming it is important. I don't know, though.

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Speaker 3: A guy could be perfect in the days and get

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Speaker 2: So it's tough to see all these injuries. We've got

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Speaker 3: He's got a shoulder injury.

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Speaker 2: With the Falcons out several weeks, so hopefully that's not

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Speaker 2: Mixon of the Texans running back is going to miss

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Speaker 3: He's on the NFL list.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't a surprise, but pretty much all of training

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Speaker 2: camp and the preseason, it's just a tough way to

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: And the big question moving forward for the NFL is

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Speaker 4: how much longer are gonna have these preseason games? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: In high school do you have any preseason games?

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Speaker 5: College? Do you have any preseason games? No such thing.

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Speaker 4: The idea of the preseason way back in the day

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Speaker 4: As soon as the football's over, they start their offseason job.

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Speaker 4: What a different time, And so that was the idea

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Speaker 4: that season. So obviously those days are long gone. These

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Speaker 4: unless they've spent it all. Actually most of them do anyway,

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Speaker 4: So you would think that they would understand since you've

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Speaker 4: the process of getting through these games and then into

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Speaker 4: the season. But you know we're we're heading to an

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Speaker 4: probably going to be spread over twenty weeks, meaning teams

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Speaker 4: elimination of preseason football games.

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Speaker 5: Mercifully.

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Speaker 2: Mercifully is right. And you know, Kyle Shanahan, head coach

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Speaker 2: and so I think that's probably we're seeing a lot

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Speaker 2: that is when you're going to learn more because you

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Speaker 2: get to see your first team against your first team

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Speaker 2: it's just so much more beneficial for teams. Per Kyle

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Speaker 4: Well and again when we talk about these controlled scrimmages,

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Speaker 4: they get way more done with these controlled scrimmages because

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Speaker 4: you know, you have an agreement between the coaches. All right,

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Speaker 4: here's things that we want to work on. What are

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Speaker 4: some of the things you guys want to work on,

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Speaker 4: and we'll play off of each other instead of just

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Speaker 4: most of which will never see the light of day.

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Speaker 4: These guys are going to play. We're seeing more and

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Speaker 4: more quarterbacks running backs. Why would you would why would

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Speaker 4: He goes, I'm going to be I'm gonna be touching

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Speaker 4: the ball four hundred times this year between carrying the.

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Speaker 5: Ball and receiving.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna waste carry in meaningless preseason games.

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Speaker 4: Worked out well with him first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: So more and more of these teams have a disdain for,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing the frontline players because you don't want

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Speaker 4: to risk any injury in these preseason games. So the

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Speaker 4: sooner we get past these preseason games and them permanently

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Speaker 4: and let these teams engage in some kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: range scrimmages, I think that's going to be best for everybody.

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Speaker 2: I would like your opinion on something, since we do

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Speaker 2: still at least have the preseason this year. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: you don't want your frontline guys playing in preseason games. However,

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Speaker 2: when you have a situation with Caleb Williams last year,

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Speaker 2: don't want him to get injured. Obviously he has to

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Speaker 2: play in the preseason. But what is that fine line.

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Speaker 4: Well, the fine line is he has a new coach,

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Speaker 4: it's a new system. So with Ben Johnson, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he wants to get reps. That's understandable if you have

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Speaker 2: four and a half years. He has been really effective,

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Speaker 2: and so that is my solution. And if they have

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Speaker 2: to trade a bunch of prospects, which they're probably going

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Speaker 2: to have to do because they want another World Series

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Speaker 2: and they're built to have one, that is my solution.

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Speaker 3: So Andrew Freeman, if you are listening, you are welcome.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a big question though, because the Guardians

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Speaker 4: are two and a half games out of the wild card, right, and.

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Speaker 5: So are they sellers or are.

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Speaker 4: They going to stand pat Because I've also heard Kwan's

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Speaker 4: name as a possible target for the Dodgers. With Moogie

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Speaker 4: Bets literally going off the cliff this year in terms

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Speaker 4: of his lack of production offensively, this team needs a

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Speaker 4: leadoff hitter out and you know Stephen Kwan is one

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Speaker 4: of those guys that would fill a lot of spots

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Speaker 4: for them.

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Speaker 5: Well, what are you going to give up?

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Speaker 2: I mean you know they for both of them, you're

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Speaker 2: giving up a bowload, but you're giving up basically Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 2: The team in Oklahoma City is heading to Cleveland. But

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Speaker 2: I mean they do, they do need that. And because

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Speaker 2: you can put show Hay anywhere. I mean, Jo always

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Speaker 2: been a tremendously off hitter. But the other thing is

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Speaker 2: you really would rather have show Hay coming up with

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Speaker 2: people on base like that?

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Speaker 4: Is that I agree, and I understand what the idea

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Speaker 4: of show Hey betting lead up, because again the thinking

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Speaker 4: is is that he is only going to bat laid

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Speaker 4: off one inning, and that's the first inning.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, he seemed to start off every

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Speaker 5: game with a home run.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, The problem for them was the bottom of the

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Speaker 4: order was so unproductive early in the season that he

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Speaker 4: wasn't afforded a lot of RBI opportunities. I don't think,

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Speaker 4: like you said, I don't think you have to worry

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Speaker 4: about show Hey a toney. You can stick him any

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Speaker 4: for a first, second, third, fourth where you're gonna put him.

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Speaker 4: But they need a leadoff guy, I think desperately, and

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Speaker 4: they just need an immense amount of pitching help. I mean,

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Speaker 4: who would have thought before the season began, the Clayton

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Speaker 4: Kershaw would be one of their more dependable starting pitchers

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Speaker 4: at the start of the season. That was not in

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Speaker 4: their game plan.

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Speaker 2: No, it definitely was not, but that is certainly where

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Speaker 2: they are. Tyler glasnow has looked absolutely fantastic. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: we are excited about him. I say we because of

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Speaker 2: the fan base. But let's talk really quickly. There's one

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Speaker 2: other team I want to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: in terms of this trade deadline, and that is the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers, because because they have been fantastic with schooball,

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Speaker 2: they are going to make the playoffs. They are running away,

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Speaker 2: but they need bullpen help as well.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 4: They're on a five game skid right now. So we

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Speaker 4: were going into the also break hyping up the Tigers. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Schoobol is dominant. I mean, there's nothing to be said,

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Speaker 4: but the rest of the team seems to be coming

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Speaker 4: back to earth right now, and so the Tigers who

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Speaker 4: were sitting atop Does anybody out there really know right

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Speaker 4: now which team in the American League has the best record.

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Speaker 3: Right the second? Is it not the Tiger?

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Speaker 4: It is not the Tigers. In fact, this team is

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Speaker 4: two and a half games ahead of the Tigers. Now

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Speaker 4: it's the Toronto Blue.

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Speaker 3: Jays who are like five games ahead of the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: Right right, they're five and a half ahead of the Yankees,

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Speaker 4: but they're two and a half clear of everybody in

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Speaker 4: the American actually two games clear of the Astros.

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Speaker 5: The Tigers have fallen to the third best record now

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Speaker 5: in the American League.

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Speaker 4: So again, this is the whole thing about this trade deadline.

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Speaker 4: You know, if it was a month later, it be

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Speaker 4: a little easier to gauge. But when you have two

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Speaker 4: full months to go where anything could happen in terms

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Speaker 4: of your two three games out of a playoff spot,

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Speaker 4: and you overreach on somebody, overspend on somebody, it could

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Speaker 4: have not only disaster results that's season, but for seasons

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Speaker 4: to come.

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Speaker 2: Well you know who you could never overspend on because

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Speaker 2: he is a vast that is Martin Wise.

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Speaker 3: With our update, I'll let you have that one.

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Speaker 8: I wish somebody would overspend on me, please. That's one

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Speaker 8: on dreams to be hired and then fired as an

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Speaker 8: NFL head coach and then.

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Speaker 3: Fired, sing that happen. Go see what the Jets are

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Speaker 3: doing mid season?

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Speaker 5: Maybe right, I'm doing well Steve, are you I'm doing well.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm sitting here at this time. Slot

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Speaker 4: thrilled to be hanging out with Tracy.

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Speaker 8: You know, when I saw you two sitting there, I

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Speaker 8: kind of rolled my eyes for a bit.

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Speaker 5: I said, you know, it's been a long week. But

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Speaker 5: it looks like the two shows have combined.

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Speaker 3: Yes, see, work makes a dream.

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Speaker 9: Work.

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Speaker 5: Are you living the dream right now?

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Speaker 8: Steve?

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Speaker 5: Are you living a dream?

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Speaker 7: There?

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Speaker 5: You go, there, It is all right.

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Speaker 8: The Phillies viz the Yeggies ninth to four. Frice Arper

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Speaker 8: hit his fifteenth on the run of the season. Aaron

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Speaker 8: Judge wasn't in the lineup, though he's getting imaging for

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Speaker 8: an elbow injury. The Guardians and the Royals Al Central

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Speaker 8: matchup two teams bouncing around five hundred. They're tied to

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Speaker 8: a piece in the bottom of the seventh inning. NFL

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Speaker 8: training camp news and notes. Texans running back Joe Mixon

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Speaker 8: will be out a majority of the preseason with an

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Speaker 8: ankle injury, and it will be re evaluated closer to

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Speaker 8: the start of the regular season. Tennessee Titans wide receiver

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Speaker 8: Treylon Berg suffered a fractured kyler burn bone during open practice.

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Speaker 8: Titans also now signed wide receiver Romel Keaton. The Vikings

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Speaker 8: wrapped up their last piece of off season business here,

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Speaker 8: signing that Josh mattel Us to a three year contract

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Speaker 8: extension thirty six million dollars. He was a sixth round

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Speaker 8: draft pick from them during twenty twenty. Tracy, you mentioned

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Speaker 8: already Burns tearing his ac out of Miami. Well as

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Speaker 8: a result, the Dolphin now signed Jack Jones and Mike

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Speaker 8: Hilton today. Justin Fields, after dislocating his toe during practice

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Speaker 8: on Thursday, was back doing some drills on Friday and

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Speaker 8: today took part in individual drills and on seventh on

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Speaker 8: seven works and the Clippers sorry.

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Speaker 5: Free agent guard ty Ty Washington. Stephen Tracy back to

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Speaker 5: you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Martin.

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Speaker 2: the iHeart Radio app. And it will always pop up

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Speaker 2: at the top of your screen. Steve, it is time

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Speaker 2: to welcome our first guest. She's, in a word, amazing,

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Speaker 2: Laura Britt NBC Sports Bay Area covers the San Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 3: Laura, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Well, hello, thanks for having.

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Speaker 9: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: We are very happy to have you.

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Speaker 2: We were just talking MLB trade deadline buyers sellers. You

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Speaker 2: cover the Giants up and down. They obviously made a

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Speaker 2: huge trade like a month ago.

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Speaker 3: Where's this team? And where do you see the NL

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Speaker 3: West right now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a pretty The National League in general is

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Speaker 9: pretty stuck. When you start looking at the wildcard race,

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Speaker 9: that gets really back to back to back teams fighting

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Speaker 9: for that third wildcard spot. And I can actually see

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Speaker 9: three teams with the Dodgers obviously holding the top spot

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Speaker 9: in the and All West, but the Padres have a

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Speaker 9: wild card spot right now, and the Giants are just

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Speaker 9: a game back of a wildcard spot for the third

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Speaker 9: spot in the NL West. So I think those three

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Speaker 9: teams specifically, when you're just looking at the NL West,

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Speaker 9: which obviously the Giants are in the NL West, you

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Speaker 9: know you can see those teams wanting to make some

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Speaker 9: moves to bolster their rosters. It gets a little tricky

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Speaker 9: because I guess we could start with the Rockies. Everybody

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Speaker 9: knows they're going to be sellers because they've won twenty

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Speaker 9: seven games this season. So they already dealt Ryan McMahon

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Speaker 9: to the Yankees. That just happened on Friday, and they

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Speaker 9: could be looking to deal one of their outfielders in

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Speaker 9: Mickey Mooniac. That's a possibility, but you kind of just

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Speaker 9: you know, the Rockies are having to do some rebuilding

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Speaker 9: there with their twenty seven wins this season historically really bad.

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Speaker 9: I think the Diamondbacks are really interesting because coming into

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Speaker 9: the season, a lot of people thought this was a

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Speaker 9: team to keep an eye on Andy. They've underperformed some

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Speaker 9: now that they've still won fifty one games, they're sitting

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Speaker 9: at fifty one and fifty three right now, but they're

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Speaker 9: four games back in the third wild card spot. And

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Speaker 9: then I was just reading up on their trade deadline

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Speaker 9: potential moves and I was pretty surprised to see their

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Speaker 9: team president and CEO Derek Hall say that it's time

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Speaker 9: for us to be responsible enough to improve our team

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Speaker 9: with what we have, and with that, let's enhance our future,

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Speaker 9: so basically saying they're going to try and be sellers,

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Speaker 9: so you could see their third basement au Haanios Suarez

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Speaker 9: get moved. They've also got Meryl Kelly, Zach Gallon, Josh Naylor.

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Speaker 9: They're definitely it sounds like they're willing to listen to

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Speaker 9: offers with their team wanting to build for the future

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Speaker 9: as opposed to right now now. He did say they

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Speaker 9: don't want to sell. Of course, nobody wants to sell.

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Speaker 9: You all want to be in the postseason conversation. That's

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Speaker 9: just not the reality. But he said they've got to

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Speaker 9: be realistic. So I think that's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 4: Laura, Steve Harbin here. You know, I've been watching this

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Speaker 4: Giants team. I'm a big Bob Melvin guy. When he

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Speaker 4: came down to San Diego, was down in the San

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Speaker 4: Diego area, he had.

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Speaker 5: A media turnaround. He's a little bit old school.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you look back on what he did

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Speaker 4: in his run with the A's, it was remarkable and

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Speaker 4: so I knew he was going to have an impact

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Speaker 4: on the Giants, but they have so many question marks.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he got a nice bounce back gear out

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Speaker 4: of Robbie Ray, but it takes seventeen starts for Verlander

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Speaker 4: to get a win. What exactly is his role with

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Speaker 4: this team and how is it they have stuck with

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Speaker 4: Verlander even though it looks like his talent has gone

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Speaker 4: off the cliff.

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Speaker 9: It's a very confusing team. I'm glad you're getting that

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Speaker 9: sense too, because Umber this team every day and it's

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Speaker 9: very confusing. Yeah. You look at Monday, they have their

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Speaker 9: worst loss of the season to the Braves. They had

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Speaker 9: they don't call it a team meeting, but I'll call

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Speaker 9: it team meeting. They're calling it talks and conversations. Bob

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Speaker 9: Melvin to your point, I'm a big Bob Melvin fan too.

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Speaker 9: I like his old school approach. I think he's just

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Speaker 9: old school baseball, which is what the Giants are trying

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Speaker 9: to get back to. Obviously, with Buster Posey taken over

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Speaker 9: as the president of Baseball Operations and getting far anxiety out.

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Speaker 9: So that was a big move for the Giants as

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Speaker 9: far as making a statement of who they want to

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Speaker 9: be as an organization. Justin Verlander, everybody knows who's a

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Speaker 9: future Hall of Famer, so he's going to get a

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Speaker 9: longer leash. The Giants brought him in hoping that they'd

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Speaker 9: get more of the old school justin Verlander. It just

664
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Speaker 9: hasn't been the case. He wasn't healthy at a period

665
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Speaker 9: of time. Now he's back to being healthy, but the

666
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 9: starts just haven't gone his way. Now, not all of

667
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 9: those starts were his fault. He definitely set the team

668
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Speaker 9: up to get himself a win in quite a few

669
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Speaker 9: of those starts before he finally got it in his

670
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Speaker 9: seventeenth start, but the Giants had some bad defense behind him.

671
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Speaker 9: The offense just has not been there. The offense has

672
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Speaker 9: been very consistent. And that's even with Tracy what you said.

673
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Speaker 9: With the Giants bringing in Rafael Devers, the Giants have

674
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Speaker 9: made the biggest move of the trade deadline. Long before

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Speaker 9: the trade deadline back on June fifteenth, that was the

676
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Speaker 9: biggest move. I mean, nobody saw that coming. Rafael Devers

677
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Speaker 9: has been with the Red Sox for his entire career

678
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Speaker 9: and one of the hottest hitters in the majors. Then

679
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Speaker 9: comes over to the Giants in June, Well, he was

680
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Speaker 9: his bat went cold. Now he's starting to heat back up,

681
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Speaker 9: and I think that's the hard thing about baseball is

682
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Speaker 9: you have to be so patient Willia Domas was brought

683
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Speaker 9: in in the offseason for the Giants, and he's been

684
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Speaker 9: a great power hitter and a good contact hitter, and

685
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Speaker 9: with the Giants the first half of the season that

686
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Speaker 9: wasn't the case. Now he's the second half hitter, and

687
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Speaker 9: he's starting to be the second half hitter. So you know,

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Speaker 9: I wish I had all the answers for you about

689
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Speaker 9: the Giants. I do think that the trade deadline, they

690
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Speaker 9: have used their bullpen, much like the Dodgers. With all

691
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Speaker 9: the injuries to the Dodgers starting rotation, they've had to

692
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Speaker 9: use their bullpen a ton. I think the Dogs might

693
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 9: have the most innings pitched out of their bullpen out

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Speaker 9: of all the majors, and the Giants bullpen is up

695
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Speaker 9: there too, because they've had to use a lot of

696
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Speaker 9: relievers for these starters that haven't panned out how they

697
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Speaker 9: thought they would. But right now the Giants have two

698
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 9: gaping holes in their rotation. So they had a young guy,

699
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Speaker 9: Hayden Birdsong that they've had in their rotation. He couldn't

700
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Speaker 9: even get an out and his last start, so they

701
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Speaker 9: dropped him down to Triple A. Well Land and Rupe

702
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Speaker 9: who won a spot in the Giant's rotation. This spring training,

703
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Speaker 9: he was in a competitive battle with Hayden Birdsong and

704
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Speaker 9: Kyle Harrison. Kyle Harrison was part of that devorstrade, so

705
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Speaker 9: he's in with the Red Sox organization now. Anyway, they

706
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Speaker 9: now have Landing Roof just hit the il yesterday and

707
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Speaker 9: he's been one of the Giants' best pitchers along with

708
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Speaker 9: Logan Web and Robbie Ray. So now you've got the

709
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Speaker 9: Giants with three pitchers in their rotation and two open

710
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Speaker 9: spots with a bullpen that's been used a lot. So

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Speaker 9: I could see the Giants trying to add a relief pitcher.

712
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Speaker 9: If you can get a starter, maybe maybe they try

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Speaker 9: and get a starter. One thing that I thought was

714
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Speaker 9: interesting the Padres have been shopping Dylan Cees around.

715
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Speaker 5: But when it's in division.

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Speaker 9: Are the Padres gonna trade Dylan Cees to the Giants.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: Although a j Preller is capable of anything, I believe me.

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Speaker 4: I follow his entire career. I'm still trying to figure

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Speaker 4: out how he has a job as a GM.

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Speaker 5: But that's me personally.

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to end talking about the

725
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Speaker 2: Dever's trade because I this is kind of like your

726
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Speaker 2: opinion on this, Steve, maybe your opinion too and is

727
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Speaker 2: maybe totally wrong.

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Speaker 3: So just a question, was it too early? Was it?

729
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Speaker 3: Was it too early for that Devers?

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Speaker 2: When you have the opportunity, you just added Devers and

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Speaker 2: whatever will be will be.

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Speaker 9: No, I don't think so. I think it was a

733
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Speaker 9: bold move by Buster Posey, which is not surprising. He

734
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Speaker 9: he wants to build a winning organization. And when you

735
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Speaker 9: have the Dodgers spending more money than God has himself,

736
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Speaker 9: how do you do that? How do you how do

737
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Speaker 9: you build this team without having that kind of a

738
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Speaker 9: budget like they do down in LA I liked the move,

739
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Speaker 9: especially at the time. I thought it was a really

740
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Speaker 9: good move. The Red Sox endeavors were not in a

741
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Speaker 9: good place. He did not want to be there, and

742
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Speaker 9: the Red Sox I don't know that they wanted him

743
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 9: there anymore. He didn't want to play first space with them.

744
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 9: There's a long story behind all that. While he's been

745
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 9: playing first base this week now logged two times this

746
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Speaker 9: week at first base for the Giants, and he's done

747
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Speaker 9: a great job. It's just patience with this game, I

748
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Speaker 9: believe that his numbers are going to catch back up.

749
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Speaker 9: You know, I do all these pre and post game

750
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Speaker 9: shows for NBC Sports Bay Area. I cover, as you mentioned,

751
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 9: the Giants, so day in and day out, you're seeing

752
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 9: it and you just really have to be patient. And

753
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 9: when I talk with some of the analysts that we

754
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 9: have former Giants players, there is something too. I try

755
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 9: not to make it too simplistic or too elementary, but

756
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Speaker 9: these people are human.

757
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Speaker 1: You know.

758
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Speaker 9: They move across the country to a city you've never

759
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Speaker 9: lived in, a new stadium, a new you know, new manager,

760
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 9: new clubhouse, new uniform, you know, all this new stuff.

761
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Speaker 9: Where are you gonna eat? Where are you gonna get

762
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 9: your coffee? I know that sounds dumb, but it is

763
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Speaker 9: a big life change. So you say, I talked to

764
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Speaker 9: Matt Chapman about this with Willie Adamas when Adamas was

765
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Speaker 9: struggling earlier this season. You know, he said, it's a

766
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Speaker 9: it's a big change. A guy's got to settle in.

767
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Speaker 9: And I always go back to what does the back

768
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Speaker 9: of their card say? And Devers and a Damas have

769
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Speaker 9: good numbers, and so right now, for a veteran, I

770
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Speaker 9: trust what the numbers say, and so I don't think

771
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Speaker 9: that move was too early. It really got the Giants

772
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Speaker 9: fan base excited. Obviously that kind of dwindled with his

773
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Speaker 9: lack of production at the plate, but it's starting.

774
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Speaker 5: To pick back up.

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Speaker 9: Posey is not a guy that's going to sit around.

776
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Speaker 9: He wants this team to be good. He wants this

777
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 9: team to be good. Now he's willing to make moves,

778
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Speaker 9: and I think they're sending that message to the fan

779
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 9: base that we're not going to just try and tell

780
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Speaker 9: guys we're not going to not pay players. That's been

781
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 9: a big knock on the Giants over the past few years.

782
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 9: They won't pay guys. You can't ever land the top

783
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Speaker 9: free agent. You bring in Buster Posey. You know why,

784
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 9: justin Verlander, which I know he hasn't panned out this season,

785
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Speaker 9: He's even in San Francisco is because of Buster Posey.

786
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 9: Leuscer Posy. They called him and Verlander was like, I

787
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 9: wasn't even considering the Giants until I talked to him,

788
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Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden, Verlander ends up coming

789
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 9: to the Giants the future Hall of Famer. So just

790
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 9: having the clout of Buster Posey as your president of

791
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 9: baseball operations does make a big difference. You always wonder

792
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 9: like does the admin make make a difference? It does

793
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 9: you talk to the players Willia Domas who came in

794
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 9: big part of why he came in Buster posey. So

795
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 9: I think that you start to look at that you

796
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 9: scan out thirty thousand feet as opposed to the day

797
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 9: in and day out grind of one hundred and sixty

798
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 9: two game season. And I don't feel like that move

799
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 9: was too early. I thought it was a message. I

800
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 9: thought it was a message to the fan base and

801
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 9: to the to the league that the Giants are going

802
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 9: to try and make a push for the postseason. We're

803
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 9: willing to pay, We're willing to add players, We're willing

804
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 9: to go out on a limb and make some deals.

805
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 9: So I think it was a message to everybody, to

806
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 9: players around the league who were hesitant over the past

807
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 9: few years to come to San Francisco, and also to

808
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 9: the team and to the fan base.

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Speaker 2: Well, Laura, thank you so much for your thoughts. We

810
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: have a long way to go in this baseball season.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us today, and everybody, stay.

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Speaker 5: Right where you are.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

814
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Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the Fox Sports

815
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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Tracy Sandler here with Steve Hartman, who is

816
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Speaker 2: about to do his very first dues and don't.

817
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Speaker 4: I have never done this before, Tracy, I'm ninety months.

818
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 5: I share what I'm doing.

819
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: Dues.

820
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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.

821
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 5: The subject brings me no joy. That's insane.

822
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: Next time for the dues and the don'ts in sports?

823
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: Right, do you want me to go first?

824
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: Okay, all right?

825
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: Don't punish for doing good?

826
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater in Miami Northwestern Senior High School. He was

827
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: recently suspended as their football coach because he spent thousands

828
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: of dollars on his own of his own money on

829
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: uber ride's meals and other benefits for players things they

830
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: actually needed, not inappropriate benefits for players. It is prohibited,

831
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: so I understand why he got in trouble, but I

832
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: think the rules should change.

833
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: The other thing is he's.

834
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Speaker 2: A volunteer head coach, but he's trying to help his

835
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: players and do good.

836
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: And I know they're rules and everybody's going to.

837
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Come at me with that, but I just feel like

838
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: he was doing something really good for these high school

839
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: football players that needed it, and now we suspend it.

840
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Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to try to do a do Okay, Okay,

842
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: So here's something I wanted to bring up today.

843
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Speaker 5: I'm going to say, do believe in a coaching record?

844
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Speaker 4: We saw what Jim Harbaugh did a year ago with

845
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: the Michigan after leaving Michigan and came to the Chargers

846
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: and went immediately. And that's why I want to say,

847
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: do I believe that Pete Carroll will have an insane impact.

848
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: On the Raiders.

849
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Speaker 4: And there's two additions that he made to prove my point. Okay,

850
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: Now I know people saying, well, you used to work

851
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: for the Raiders. That was the LA Raiders. They haven't

852
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: existed for thirty years, or throw that out. I don't

853
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: have any allegiance to the Raiders. But he not only

854
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: brought in Geno Smith, the quarterback that he had success with,

855
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: literally revived Geno Smith's career when no one even knew

856
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: that Geno Smith was ill in the league. And then

857
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Speaker 4: he brings in Chip Kelly. Now I'm not a Chip

858
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: Kelly fan from his UCLA days as a Bruin, but

859
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: I am a chip Kelly fan from what I saw

860
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: a year ago to Ohio State, and a chip Kelly

861
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: fan in dealing with Geno Smith. So if you're hesitant

862
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: on a seventy three year old Pete Carroll getting the

863
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: job done, don't make that mistake.

864
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 5: Do believe that Pete Carroll is going to have.

865
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Speaker 4: A tremendous immediate impact on the success of the Raiders

866
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Speaker 4: this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm very oppressed at in your very first do's and don'ts,

868
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Speaker 2: you were able to get both a do and a

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Speaker 2: don't in there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want people to be on the fence

872
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: with the other door don't do or don't do or

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Speaker 4: don't you know our buyer or seller buy into. Do

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00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: believe the Pete Carroll is that kind of a coach,

875
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: because when you go back to his USC days, taking

876
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: a dormant program with no college experience and building the

877
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: powerhouse he did at USC, this is a guy to

878
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Speaker 4: believe that he can still do it.

879
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: I gotta do.

880
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: You brought up Jim Harbaugh, and my due is do

881
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: be Jim harbought today, he arned this week he was

882
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: wearing a everybody Watches Women's sports T shirt and of

883
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: course that was all over the place. And I love,

884
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: I love somebody who uses their platform for good, and

885
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to piggyback on that.

886
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 3: Do use your resources. Caitlin Clark brought backpacks and.

887
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: With school supplies to the IPS Northwest Middle School, behalf

888
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: of her and her foundation, and so those are my

889
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: Do use your platform for good, Do use your resources

890
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: for good. And you have thirty seconds to give us

891
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: one more all right.

892
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 5: My don't. I hate to say this.

893
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: It's okay, No you don't. Yeah, you probably a good

894
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: point if he doesn't whatever.

895
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: As you mentioned, the WNBA don't believe that they're going

896
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 5: to get more money.

897
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 3: Oh that just makes me sad.

898
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: Now you can argue whether they deserve the money in

899
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 4: a league that loses money and they've come a long way,

900
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: but I understand this.

901
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 5: The WNBA is financed by NBA owners and they're not

902
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 5: going to put the money in. So as much as

903
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: the women believe they have earned the right to earn more.

904
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: Money, don't buy into the idea that they're going to

905
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 4: get that money.

906
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, do give them the money that

907
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: they deserve. Well, they don't.

908
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: Don't from those NBA owners, Tracy, They about the.

909
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 11: Investments, though there's plenty of investment money coming into so much.

910
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 3: Look at and look at the Valkyries. Look at what's

911
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: happened there.

912
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: Evaluations are going up. I think that's what they want

913
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: a piece of.

914
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 11: But yeah, like the actual revenue stream isn't there yet,

915
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 11: but the hope is that there will be.

916
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: Yes. I agree with that one.

917
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: So I'm going to say, do pay them the money

918
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: and do stay right where you are because we have a.

919
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Lot more coming up. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

920
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Speaker 1: Door listening to Fox Sports.

921
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: Hello, and you were listening to Tracy Sandler and Steve

922
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: Hartman and Fox Sports Saturday. So much to discuss. We

923
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: talked about baseball in the last hour. Just wanted to

924
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: bring up Aaron Judge going on the IL with the flexerstrain.

925
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: I just bring that up because this could really affect

926
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: the Yankees. I mean, it's not the end of the world.

927
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: I guess when he comes off the IL, he's only

928
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: going to DH But the Yankees are not the powerhouse

929
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: they were last year. I don't think they'd nestly were

930
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: the powerhouse last year that they were last year.

931
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: But that's just coming from me. But anyways could affect

932
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: them going forward.

933
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, Steve, Well, I mean, you lose your

934
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: ace pitcher to start the season.

935
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Speaker 5: That doesn't help.

936
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: No, it definitely does.

937
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: And so from that point on, you're really dependent on

938
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: your offense. And let's face it, I mean, Aaron Judge

939
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: is the biggest offensive force in the American League certainly,

940
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: so if he's down for any period of time, that's

941
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 4: going to have an adverse effect on the Yankees.

942
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 2: Yes it is. But we are now going to switch

943
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: gears back to the NFL. You guys, as we've mentioned

944
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: in the first hour, it's the first week of training

945
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: camp and it's a perfect time for us to overreact

946
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: to everything. So with that in mind, Steve, I want

947
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: us to go kind of lightning round division by division,

948
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: who we each think is going to win their division?

949
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

950
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 5: I am ready to they We're all all right.

951
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Let's start in the AFC East Bills, Dolphins, Patriots or Jets.

952
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: So this division is so lopsided in favor of the Bills.

953
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: It's like the old New England days when they basically

954
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: feasted on the Bills and the Jets and the Dolphins. Now,

955
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: it's the same thing with the Bills. I think the

956
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: Dolphins are going to be worse than expected. New England

957
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: is obviously trying to rebuild again, and the Jets are

958
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: the Jets. Yes, So I mean it's to me this

959
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: is such a one sided division, which gives, by the way,

960
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: the Bills the golden opportunity to get that number one

961
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: overall seed. That is what it's going to take if

962
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: Buffalo wants to get to the super Bowl, is to

963
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: get that number one overall seed in the AFC and

964
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: have a ticket through Buffalo to get to the super Bowl.

965
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: And I think this could be the year.

966
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, Bill's in a runaway over a very weak division.

967
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: I agree with that. AFC North, this one's harder. Bengals, Brown,

968
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: Steelers and Ravens. Can I go first, go for it.

969
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick the Ravens, but I think the

970
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Bengals could do it.

971
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: I agree with that. I'm the Ravens are the best

972
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 5: team in this division. They really are.

973
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: And I know Bridget's going to be joining us a

974
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 4: little bit later on from Ravens camp, so we'll talk

975
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: to her about that.

976
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: The other teams have questions.

977
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: I mean, again, I picked Joe Burrow last year before

978
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: the season to be the league's MVP, and if you

979
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 4: ignore the Bengals record, he in my opinion, he was

980
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: the MVP.

981
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 5: I mean, he was so dominant on a team but

982
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: no defense.

983
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: And this is the problem when you have a cheap

984
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 4: organization led by Mike Brown. The Bengals are never going

985
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: to spend the kind of money. I mean, the fact

986
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: that you're haggling over your best defensive player just is

987
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: beyond belief. But that's part for the Bengals. The Browns

988
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: have no quarterback until they actually have a quarterback, and

989
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: so you know, the interesting thing is is that Mike

990
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: Tomlin has owned John Harbaugh the Steelers.

991
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: They own the Ravens.

992
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if the Ravens are a better team.

993
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: For whatever reason, the Steelers have their number. But yeah,

994
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: I agree the Ravens should win that division.

995
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: And honestly, the Steelers didn't even come into play with me,

996
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: and I know that they feel like they've gone all in,

997
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: but I until I see it, I do not believe.

998
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 5: This is my question is this.

999
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of doubters, and I'm believing

1000
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: I'm not the biggest Aaron Rodgers famine on the planet,

1001
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: and he can be a cancer on a team.

1002
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 5: I believe that.

1003
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 4: But how are they worse at quarterback than they've been

1004
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: over the last four years?

1005
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 5: I mean, you're not gonna be worse. I mean, is

1006
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 5: he better than Kenny Pickett? As he better than whatever

1007
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: they had a year ago? Yeah, he's better.

1008
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 4: And he did start all seventeen games for the Jets

1009
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: a year ago. So I think they made an upgraded quarterback.

1010
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: How much I don't know, But I think the Steelers

1011
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: will once again be right they always are, like a

1012
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: ten win team, sneaking into the playoffs and making no noise.

1013
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more because I agree

1014
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: with you. They're not worse. I just don't think it

1015
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: makes the impact to get them to the next step.

1016
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: All right, the AFC South, this is an interesting division.

1017
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: The Titans, the Colts, the Jaguars, the Texans. I mean,

1018
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm picking the Texans.

1019
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 4: Up, okay, So I mean we'll eliminate the Titans. All right,

1020
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 4: So the Titans are out?

1021
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: Who is shuck? Is that?

1022
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: The guy's name is that? The guys name that? This

1023
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: the Tennessee quarterback now that's the Saints guy. So Tennessee

1024
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: these days, I get I could get confused with some

1025
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: of these quarterbacks right now. So Tennessee has got Cam

1026
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: Moore the number overall pick, obviously, and we'll see how

1027
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: he does on a very bad football team. But you know,

1028
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 4: when I look at this team, I still go back

1029
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: to Jacksonville, like what happened?

1030
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1031
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 4: I mean a year ago, a lot of people, including

1032
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 4: Chris over here, was really hyped up on Jacksonville. Where

1033
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 4: are you not hyped up on Jacksonville before last season?

1034
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 11: Listen, I when I said that preview, I said, I

1035
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 11: do this fully knowing that I have fallen for the

1036
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 11: Jaguars trap for about three years, where everything looks right,

1037
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 11: it should be good enough for this roster, everything looks

1038
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 11: like that, it should align for them for the AFC South.

1039
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 11: And still when we get to the season, bubkiss falling

1040
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 11: on your face, repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot, emptying

1041
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 11: the clip, reloading another clip, shooting yourself in the foot,

1042
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 11: some more, looking up, saying here's what happened, and then

1043
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 11: Trevor Lawrence gets hurt that See, it just seems to

1044
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 11: happen every damn time for the Jaguars.

1045
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 5: How they're gonna use Travis Hunter. I don't know. We're

1046
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 5: gonna find out.

1047
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is Jaguars are on my short

1048
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: listed teams that are going to exceed expectations.

1049
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 5: I have nothing to back it up. No wait, wait, wait, wait,

1050
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 5: no no, but I just think Jacksonville in that division

1051
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 5: could rebound. And the Texans, to me, came out of

1052
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: nowhere two years ago.

1053
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: I know they made the playoffs, they got the win

1054
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: against the Chargers, but overall it was a little bit

1055
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: of a backstep, certainly for CJ.

1056
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 5: Stroud. So I don't buy into the Texans the Colts.

1057
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: I buy into their coach.

1058
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: You know, the Colts still have to decide is Daniel

1059
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 5: Jones going to be your quarterback? Is that really going

1060
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 5: to happen? So I am going to go out on

1061
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: the limb and pick Jacksonville to rebound and win a

1062
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: very weak AFC suff it.

1063
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 11: The worst part is is I look at you, I'm like,

1064
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 11: there's no one else there to stop them, unless you

1065
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 11: really think the Colts are going to turn around, and

1066
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 11: they will.

1067
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: I believe.

1068
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: I believe in the Texans coach so much, but then

1069
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: that just maybe believing the.

1070
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: Coach too much.

1071
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I have no question he's a quality coach.

1072
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 4: He's proven it over two years obviously. But I just

1073
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: I just have a sense that there's going to be

1074
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: a hiccup. Okay, Texans, and it's coming this year.

1075
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm now We're off to the vision that I

1076
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: think is kind of the most interesting Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers.

1077
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: So Tracy, I've said this, there has never been a

1078
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: division with four better coaches at the same time than

1079
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: this division has.

1080
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty five.

1081
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 4: You have three coaches that have won Super Bowls, and

1082
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: Jim Harbo has been to a Super Bowl, won a

1083
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 4: National Championship in Michigan. We have never seen a division

1084
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: top to bottom have four coaches of this caliber. Sean

1085
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: Payton and Pete Carroll are certainly Hall of Fame candidate's

1086
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 4: down the road. Andy Reid is a first ballot guy.

1087
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: That being said, I think we're in for a turnaround

1088
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: in this AFC West.

1089
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: I do too.

1090
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: And if you look at top rated offensive defensive lines,

1091
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 4: the top two teams in the league are the Philadelphia

1092
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: Eagles and the Denver Broncos, and Sean Payton gets another

1093
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: year out of bow Knicks where he doesn't have to

1094
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: learn the system on the fly. I think Denver is very,

1095
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: very capable of winning twelve or thirteen games. I think

1096
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: it's over for the Chiefs the humiliating loss in the

1097
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I've come out and said I think Patrick

1098
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: Mahomes has played in his last Super Bowl.

1099
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: Wow that I'm gonna agree with you on the Broncos.

1100
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that on Patrick Mahomes.

1101
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: Time will tell. I mean, I can understand why you

1102
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: think it.

1103
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 4: Well, Travis Kelcey is at the end of his career.

1104
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: She's going to try to sneak in one more year

1105
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: only because of they got humiliated in the Super Bowl.

1106
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to end his career that way. He

1107
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: may end his career with not even making the playoffs

1108
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: this year.

1109
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: Might I definitely do not disagree with that. I am

1110
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: all in on the Broncos, which is hard for me

1111
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: because you know, my guy, Jim coaches the Chargers. But

1112
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: I think they are going to win this division. They

1113
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: did they upgraded their defense and it's it's gonna be good.

1114
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: I think Jim Harbors should have gotten Coach of the

1115
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: hear last year, I don't know, not agree more. I mean,

1116
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about they had a running back Darbins,

1117
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: who had every single noble leg injury. The idea of

1118
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: signing them seemed bizarre considering he basically missed the three

1119
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: previous years. They squeezed everything out of him. You know,

1120
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: they've they've upgraded running back, no doubt about that. But

1121
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: I am still hesitant on Herbert. Yeah, there's some of

1122
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: the things that I was told about Herbert when he

1123
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: was at Oregon, because he's such a physical specimen, he's

1124
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: a smart guy and everything else.

1125
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 5: I didn't buy into it. And then two years in

1126
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 5: he's a Pro Bowl starter. But he hasn't progressed.

1127
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: No, he is not. And he had some bad interceptions

1128
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: in that playoff game.

1129
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 5: Well as many.

1130
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: He threw more interceptions in one playoff game than he

1131
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: did the entire year. My guess is Chargers are in

1132
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: good hands with Jim Harbaugh. But I think they're going

1133
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: to take a step back before they take a step

1134
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: forward this year.

1135
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: Okay, well I could see that. All right, We're going

1136
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: to move over to the NFC.

1137
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: The NFC East, well, probably easy, but the cow maybe

1138
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: not easy. Cowboys, Giants, Eagles and Commanders. I'm going to

1139
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: pick the Eagles. I still have all in on the Commanders.

1140
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 2: I just am not going to go against that team

1141
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 2: and their performance in the Super Bowl.

1142
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm know I'm going to shock you with

1143
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 4: this one. First of all, it's been twenty years since

1144
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: the team repeated as Afcast champs. Think about that, NFC East,

1145
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: It's been twenty years since a team won back to

1146
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: back NFC East championships. Okay, so the Eagles are out

1147
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 4: and everyone's jumping on the Commanders. But the Commanders again

1148
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: had a breakout season a year ago. This time, my

1149
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: prediction was the Dallas Cowboys were going to win the

1150
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

1151
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: I could not have been more wrong.

1152
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 4: Seven wins season, everything says that is a organization that

1153
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: is in a mess right now. I got the Micah

1154
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 4: Parsons situation, or Michael Parsons as Jerry Jones called him

1155
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: the other day, what a mess. But despite that, I

1156
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: think Dak has a bounce back year. I think the

1157
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: Cowboys again are going to be a surprise team. I

1158
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 4: don't think this division is going to be as good

1159
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: as people think, and I think they're going to come

1160
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: down a little bit, and I think the Cowboy are

1161
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 4: going to come out of nowhere and be crowned NFC

1162
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: East champions.

1163
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 2: I we now have two things July twenty sixth, twenty

1164
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: twenty five that should we should book mark that down.

1165
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 3: Mark that down.

1166
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: I cannot trust the Cowboys, but hey, this is why

1167
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: they play the games. Let's see onto the NFC North,

1168
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: which is a really good division.

1169
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: You got the.

1170
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Bears, the Lions, the Packers, and the Vikings. I am

1171
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: one hundred percent going to pick with my heart. So

1172
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: let you go first, and everyone knows, so I'm going

1173
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: to pick because I'm picking with my heart.

1174
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: All right.

1175
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 4: So here's the interesting thing. A year ago the Lions

1176
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 4: won fifteen games. They're over under this year is ten

1177
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: and a half. The Vikings won fourteen games. This year

1178
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: they're over under is nine and a half.

1179
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 3: That's wrong.

1180
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: The Packers they won eleven games this year nine and

1181
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: a half. The Bears, who won what four or five games,

1182
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: they're eight and a half. So they think this is

1183
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: going to be a tighter division. The Bear is going

1184
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: to be much better. Everyone's going to be much worse.

1185
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: Here's what we do know. Three teams in the playoffs

1186
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: oh and three last year, and they were miserable all

1187
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: of them in the postseason. I think it's an overrated division.

1188
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: The Lions are a team that had an opportunity a

1189
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 4: year ago and they got blasted at home by a

1190
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback, embarrassing the Vikings.

1191
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: I'll put it this way.

1192
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: I've known Kevin O'Connell so long I watched him play

1193
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: in high school. Okay, okay, that's how long i've known

1194
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell. But he has a rookie quarterback essentially, and

1195
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 4: that's going to be the quick big question is how

1196
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 4: quickly can he get JJ McCarthy going. And you can say, well,

1197
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: if he did it with Sam Darnold, he could do

1198
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: with Jjon was just going to.

1199
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: Say JJ McCarthy's perfect, so he'll be great. Well that's

1200
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: with my heart.

1201
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 4: Well let's their heart. We'll see, we'll see. I'm I'm

1202
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: not an anti JJ McCarthy guy. The Packers are in

1203
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 4: limbo right now, but I I'm going.

1204
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 5: To have to lean to the Lions. But it's it's

1205
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: going to be maybe ten or eleven wins. I think

1206
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 5: this division as a whole is going to take a

1207
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 5: major step back from a year ago.

1208
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: So I'm picking the Vikings with my heart because anybody

1209
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: who listens to show know sow much of JJ because

1210
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: of Michigan. However, if I wasn't picking with my heart,

1211
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: I would actually pick the Packers.

1212
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm not against I mean, any of these three teams

1213
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: could do it. The Bear is gonna be It's gonna

1214
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 4: be another rough here for the Bears. But I think

1215
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: any of those three teams are interchangeable. So yeah, I

1216
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: could see the Packers winning, but.

1217
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: I'll lean slightly to the Lions, O.

1218
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: Realy, NFC South, the Falcons, the Saints, the Buccaneers, and

1219
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: the Panthers. Yeah, it's just as sad. It just all

1220
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: sounds so sad it does. But somebody's gonna have to

1221
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: win that division. I'm gonna go with the Buccaneers because

1222
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: why not.

1223
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: Well, you go with the Bucks. I mean, I'm a

1224
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield guy. The only problem I had with Baker

1225
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 4: Mayfield is you know, it's hard for him to put

1226
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 4: together consecutive really good years, and he has the last

1227
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: couple of years in Tampa. They actually have the longest

1228
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: current streak in the NFC of making the playoffs.

1229
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

1230
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 4: That's which is pretty remarkable. But my pick in this

1231
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: division is the Atlanta Falcons. I am a huge Michael

1232
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: PENNOCKX guy okay, and I voted for him for the Heisman. Tracey,

1233
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: I have a Heisman vote I've had from me.

1234
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: You're not the one who voted for JJ McCartney.

1235
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: I did not vote for JJ McCarthy. I voted for

1236
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix as he beat bo Nicks twice that year.

1237
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 4: And remember the votings obviously before all the playoffs in

1238
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: the bowl games.

1239
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 5: So I believe that Pennix is going to get the

1240
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 5: job done. And again nine to ten wins, that's the

1241
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 5: best you're going to squeeze out of the NFC South.

1242
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 5: But I'm going to pick the Falcons to win the

1243
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 5: NFC South.

1244
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: Last was certainly not least the NFC West, the Rams,

1245
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the forty nine Ers, the Seahawks. I made

1246
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: it pretty clear on social media this week who I

1247
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: think is going to win. And I can tell you

1248
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: guys in a minute, but I'll let Steve go first.

1249
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: Well, I'll put it this way.

1250
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: Seattle and Arizona to me have quality quarterbacks and so

1251
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray proved a year ago really coming back that

1252
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: he's still a quality quarterback. He needs a lot of

1253
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: pieces around him, and I think stam Darnold's season when

1254
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: Minnesota wasn't a fluke. I think that's going to work

1255
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 4: for him fine in Seattle. But they're not really in

1256
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 4: the conversation. So it comes down to a forty nine

1257
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: er team that was awful a year ago for a

1258
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 4: multitude of reasons and a RAM team that surprised many

1259
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: with winning that division and adding DeVante Adams with Pooka Nakua.

1260
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't see how the Rams don't come away. The

1261
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 4: jury's out on brock Party. I mean, when everything was

1262
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 4: going well.

1263
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 5: Brock Purty was certainly a legitimate MVP candidate. A year ago.

1264
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 4: When he was told to shoulder more of the offense,

1265
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to deliver at the level you win

1266
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: in this league.

1267
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: So I'm going to go with the Rams.

1268
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: I am also going with the Rams, not because I

1269
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: think the jury has had on Rock Purtty, but I'm

1270
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: going with the Rams because they were the best in

1271
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: the division last year.

1272
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: They only got better.

1273
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: Those young guys in that defense only going to continue

1274
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: to improve, And I actually am going to go ahead

1275
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: and say before we go to break, I think the

1276
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: Rams are going to.

1277
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl. What we will be right back. This

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1291
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: would say, right in the middle of the WNBA season,

1292
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Links look kind of unbeatable, super fun to watch.

1293
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: What teams are you excited about?

1294
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's sort of an overview of the WNBA right now.

1295
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: And I'll be honest with Tracy.

1296
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: Obviously, the WNBA started getting some real attention a year

1297
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: ago with the addition of Caitlin Clark. I mean, you

1298
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 4: can spin it a thousand different ways. And I've had

1299
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 4: a number of friends that have been associated with this

1300
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: league from the very beginning. So that being said, I

1301
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: think that it's really a you know, whoever comes out

1302
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: on top, you know, I mean, the aces obviously have

1303
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: been very dominant recently, my old buddy Mark Davis, you know,

1304
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 4: having Vegas team. They're excited for Mark, But you know,

1305
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: this this is more about the end result of this

1306
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: league being able to take that step forward. And I,

1307
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: for the life of me, I still do not understand

1308
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: why this Caitland Clark situation has not been more embraced

1309
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: from the opening day than it has been. I mean,

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00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 4: I understand there's jealousies. Look, and I get a female

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: perspective on this. They say it's the women. Have told

1312
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: me the jealousies amongst the women are different than they

1313
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 4: are for guys. And it's not like guys don't have

1314
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 4: immense egos that there are constantly competing against each other.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know, because obviously I'm not a female,

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: so I don't know what it is about her star

1317
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: power that has been not overwhelmingly embraced by a league

1318
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: because she's obviously given eyeballs to the WNBA that were

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00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: never there before. But if they don't follow through on this,

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00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: because right now she's hurt. We saw ticket prices cut

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: in half for that All Star game because she was

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: not going to play in that game.

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00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: We don't know her situation because of the injuries. She

1324
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 5: has really struggled this year is to shoot the basketball

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 5: the way we expect.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. She's an iconic figure. She is

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: someone like a you know, a Muhammad al Lee or

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods that has been able to

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 4: lift a sport. I mean, it's a very short list,

1330
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 4: and Kaylan Clark is that she is right now. She's

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 4: one of the three most recognizable basketball players on the planet.

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Speaker 4: And so if she can't, for whatever reason, whether it's

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00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 4: battles constantly within players of the league or injuries, hold

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Speaker 4: her back from living up to the expectations of what

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01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 4: she is as a player, unfortunately, think it's going to

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 4: have a devastating effect on the future of the WNBA

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 4: at a time when they really had a golden opportunity,

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01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: and honestly, I think they fumble the ball, and it's

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Speaker 4: very frustrating because, like I said, I know a lot

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Speaker 4: of women that have invested a lot of time, a

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 4: lot of effort to make this league happen, and I

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01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: just a golden opportunity to slip through their hands.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think as far as injuries are concerned, she

1344
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: is dealing with an injury right now, but she's not somewhat.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she was dealing with injuries all of

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: the time. So it just maybe this season, and obviously

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: it's really affected the fever. They're now thirteen and twelve

1348
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: six in the standings. They did beat the Las vegas

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: As this Thursday night, but it's affected them. I don't

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: really know, to be honest, and I know this is

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01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: something that gets talked about a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that it's jealousy.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: I think people are paying much more attention to the

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Speaker 2: WABA now than they were.

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Speaker 3: And it's a physical.

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Speaker 2: Game and they're playing a sport, and so I don't

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01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: know that it's a jealousy thing.

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Speaker 3: But I do think the WNBA is.

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Speaker 2: Obviously embracing Caitlin Clark, but I feel like jealousy makes

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: it maybe a little too simplistic and maybe unfair to

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Speaker 2: the athletes in my eye.

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Speaker 4: I remember when Tiger Woods hit the scene, there was

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Speaker 4: a ton of jealousy from PGA players, like, what's happening here? Okay,

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: so he looks different, is that it? And it's like, no,

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Speaker 4: he actually has the game to back it up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that was the whole point. People forget this. When Tiger

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Speaker 4: won that first Masters at age twenty one, he did

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Speaker 4: not win another major for two years after that. It

1369
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: wasn't until the ninety nine PGA and then of course

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Speaker 4: he won on his historic run. And so there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of pushback, obviously initially until they realized that

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01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: eyeballs were everywhere on golf. And not only was you know, okay,

1373
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: he's winning, but now my second place money is more

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Speaker 4: than it was when I was making first place money

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Speaker 4: thanks to this one guy. It is going to be

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01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: very interesting moving forward. Look, I mean, you know our

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Speaker 4: w NBA All Star MVP, call youer, I'm she had

1378
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 4: a tremendous game. She's leading the league in scoring right now.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Minnesota. They only have four losses on the season.

1380
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: They're having a tremendous year. They're just dominating home, they've

1381
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 4: wiped out the Aces, So yeah, I mean that's that's

1382
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 4: a good team. But you know, for these women, you

1383
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 4: know Kelsey Plumb, it comes to Los Angeles, you know

1384
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 4: she's a star player. How much attention is she actually getting?

1385
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 4: So it's very hard for me to read. But based

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 4: on what's happening right now, yes, the Links would appear

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01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: to be the team in the driver's seat. Would you

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Speaker 4: like to make it a longer season for the WNBA?

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Speaker 3: Huh, that's a very good question. Maybe a little bit longer.

1390
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: How many games would you like to see see people

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 4: constantly complain like the NBA season is too long?

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Speaker 5: Eighty two games? Cut it in half? All right, Well,

1393
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 5: if you cut it in half, you got a WNBA season.

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01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Let me tell you who I'm not cutting in half.

1395
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Great Martin Wise. I so pride myself on these transitions

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: that I sometimes it's a reach. But we got Martin

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: Wise for our Sports of day break.

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Speaker 4: So Martin, do you have an answer to Tracy's question,

1399
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Speaker 4: who do you like right now to win the WNBA?

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Speaker 5: I'd say the Liberty.

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: Okay, liberty, you're going to liberty.

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 5: I'm the Liberty.

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01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 8: Also, like signing a Meesman is like a clear ring

1404
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 8: chasing move and at this stage in my life, I

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01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 8: kind of support that type of thing.

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm here for it all right.

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 4: Here's why you know the w NBA has truly a

1408
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 4: rived because when you listen to Countdown on Saturdays and

1409
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 4: Sundays here, oh yeah, they that's all.

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01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 5: They do is talk about w NBA. That's a lot

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01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 5: of money be made in that league.

1412
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 4: Apparently, well what they really bound but the players for

1413
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: Steve Well, I talked to Jeff Schwartz about this, right,

1414
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: and then goes, here's the thing. The odds makers still

1415
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: haven't figured out the w NBA. The NBA is tough

1416
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 4: to win on the w n B A if you

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01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 4: actually do a little homework, it's like stealing money.

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01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 8: Well, because you know, the average person. I wouldn't say

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 8: the average WA fan with the average person knows Caitlin Clark,

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 8: Angel Reese and maybe the feast A Collier or Asian

1421
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 8: Les Wilson. Yeah that's it, maybe, I mean, but probably

1422
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 8: the tops list tops up at five.

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01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 5: Yeah. So like you said a few and ask you

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 5: like I said five. So, like I said, I like,

1425
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 5: but I'm locked in, Like I make a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of money on the WNBA, So I think I.

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01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 4: Bet people make a lot of money on the w NBA.

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01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 4: That's why that's why countdowns using it.

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: I'm not betting baseball and all that.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean Jonathan India one for five today, that

1431
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 8: one a three run home run.

1432
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Speaker 5: Guardians win.

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01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 8: Go, I mean Royals win yeh figured No, five to three.

1434
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 8: I'm not betting that two five hund team. How you

1435
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 8: supposed to pick Yankees beat the Phillies? They said, Phillies

1436
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 8: beat the Yankees ninth to four. Bryce Harper with his

1437
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 8: fifteenth home run of the season. Aaron Judge going on

1438
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 8: the injured list with the flex restrain.

1439
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 5: They're also what is it what? Four games back now

1440
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 5: up Toronto in the Al East.

1441
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 8: Texan running back Joe Mixon will be out with the

1442
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 8: majority of the preseasons with the ankle injury. We re

1443
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 8: evaluated closer to the start of the regular season. Traylon Burgs,

1444
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 8: Tennessee Titans wide receiver would fracture of colin bone during

1445
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 8: opening practice today.

1446
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 5: The Titans also signed.

1447
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 8: Romel Keaton wide receiver Vikings wrap up Josh Mattelus to

1448
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 8: a three year, thirty six million dollar contract extension. He

1449
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 8: was a sixth round draft choice in twenty twenty. You'll

1450
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 8: stay with the team now for three more years. Dolphins

1451
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 8: signed for free agent quarterbacks Jack Jones and Mike Hilton

1452
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 8: after already burns toward his acl and Justin Fields took

1453
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 8: part in seven on seven work because he works his

1454
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 8: way back to a full workload from that dislocated toe

1455
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 8: that had him on the cart on Thursday.

1456
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 5: Dislocated toe.

1457
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 8: If she's just about Steve, think about this, thinking about

1458
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 8: how much stubbing.

1459
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 5: Your toe has to hurt. Oh, my gosh, so much,

1460
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 5: and how much you were.

1461
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 8: Like, yo, cart me off after stubbing my toe.

1462
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 5: I like people making.

1463
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 8: Jokes about Justin Fields, and it is dislocated.

1464
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 5: To tell yeah, go stop your toe on the bed

1465
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 5: and see if you don't want the cart. That's all

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: I got.

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: I could not agree with you more. Martin. Toe injuries

1468
01:05:58,720 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: are real.

1469
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: The great Jack Lambert, the legendary middle linebacker of the

1470
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: Still Curtain Steeler defense.

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 5: His career ended with turf toe. All right.

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Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast and

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Speaker 3: We get off the air.

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Speaker 2: So excited to welcome NFL Networks Bridget Condon, who also

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Speaker 2: frequent co hosts of the show and we love her,

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Speaker 2: coming to us from Braven's Camp.

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Speaker 9: Hello, Bridget, a friend of the show, friend.

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Speaker 3: Of the show, family of the show, family of the show.

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Speaker 10: I wish I was there sitting next to you, but

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Speaker 10: I guess this is the second best option.

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Speaker 3: Well, you kind of were because you were on our

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: TV earlier, so you were here.

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Speaker 5: You're watching you, Bridget.

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Speaker 4: But yes, for me to have to sit in this

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 4: seat is not the easiest consider.

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Speaker 10: Could you see the splat dripping face.

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: No, no, it was you were. You were doing fabulous

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01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 2: from Ravens camp and great. I've been very excited to

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01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: talk to you. You and I kind of touched on

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 2: this last week. What is the feeling at Ravens camp?

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01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: Is this like an all or nothing season? Do you

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: get that sense so far?

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Speaker 10: So here's the thing. There is so much excitement at

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01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 10: Ravens training camp. Because of the pieces that they got

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01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 10: this offseason with DeAndre Hopkins and JayR Alexander. But they've

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 10: won two back to back AFC North champions We know championships.

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 10: We know how great Lamar is. He had a career

1505
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 10: season breaking all these records last season. The one thing

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 10: that's not on his resume, guys, is that Super Bowl,

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 10: And of course that's the elephant in the room. But

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 10: for this team, it's just about right now, like let's

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 10: get the little minute detailed done during training camp and

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 10: we'll think about the Super Bowl in January, in February.

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 10: I do want to mention though, you say, like is

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01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 10: this now or never? I know a lot of people

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01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 10: think it is for Lamar, but he still is such

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 10: a young player. He's only twenty eight years old. Peyton

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 10: Manning won his for Super Bowl a month before turning

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01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 10: thirty one. John Elway was thirty seven, so there is

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01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 10: still time, though I know a lot of people feel

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 10: like it's this season or nothing.

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01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: All right, So when we look at Lamar Jackson's record

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 4: regular season gains bridgid seventy and twenty four postseason three

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 4: and five, I mean that is a dramatic difference.

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 5: So until he actually does it. If he does.

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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 4: It, the jury's going to be out, So I mean,

1524
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 4: conceivably he should have won a third MVP. I really

1525
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: thought the reason Josh Allen got is just voter fatigue

1526
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 4: that like which we just can't give Lamar the reward

1527
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 4: every year. But what is in the mindset of Lamar

1528
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 4: Jackson and does he have some creeping dout or questions

1529
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: of why he has struggled during the postseason when he

1530
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 4: has made the regular season basically his constant party.

1531
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 10: Well, isn't there are a couple of things. He was

1532
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 10: asked about it this week and he said, you know,

1533
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 10: we don't finish like I'm pretty much trying to finish

1534
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 10: camp the right way to get ready for Week one,

1535
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 10: not trying to think about the super Bowl. As I

1536
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 10: kind of alluded to in the first question. You guys

1537
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 10: asked like, so he thinks, like it's because we don't finish.

1538
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 10: But when you look at this roster and this team,

1539
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 10: they have had issues with depth come the playoffs with

1540
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 10: like some injury. So I think that's why they went

1541
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 10: out this offseason and got some of the help that

1542
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 10: they did get. I mean, remember they Flowers was injured

1543
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 10: during the playoffs last season, and so that's a huge

1544
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 10: weapon for Lamar. You know, I think Mark Andrews a

1545
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 10: couple of years ago, or because I was coming off

1546
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 10: of a knee injury two years ago, if I'm remembering correctly.

1547
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 10: So there has been issues where you know, his main

1548
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 10: targets are curt But I don't know what it is because,

1549
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 10: as you mentioned, like he's so good in the regular season,

1550
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 10: what happens in the postseason. And when you look at

1551
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 10: the teams that are successful, their defenses are good in

1552
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 10: January and February and they have death.

1553
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: So I have a question about someone else over at

1554
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens who's been tremendously successful, has won a Super

1555
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 2: Bowl with them several years ago.

1556
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: However, they do keep falling short.

1557
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any sort of maybe hot seat

1558
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: is a strong word, but maybe a luke warmness seat

1559
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: for John Harbucks.

1560
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 10: I don't think so. Like I think if we want

1561
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 10: storylines in July, like, throw it out there, let's debate it.

1562
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: We need storylines in July. Bridget No, that's why I

1563
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 3: love you.

1564
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 10: Like I totally see where you're coming from. But just

1565
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 10: by being there today, like they would have to lose

1566
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 10: the division for John Harbaugh's seat to get even a

1567
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 10: little bit toasty, you know, because they've won back to

1568
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 10: back AFC North championships. They've done a great job in

1569
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 10: the off season of getting pieces for this team. Yes,

1570
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 10: they need to win in the playoffs. That is the

1571
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 10: big elephanted room. That is the big thing that this

1572
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 10: Baltimore Ravens.

1573
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 9: Team needs to do.

1574
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 10: But they's still a very good team. And I think

1575
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 10: you know, it starts by the coach, John Harbaugh, and

1576
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 10: these players respect him. It's not until you have a

1577
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 10: team that you can't get through to anymore when front

1578
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 10: offices have to make a decision. And I don't think

1579
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 10: they're there at all right.

1580
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: Now, good because I hate to see any of them

1581
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: with the last name Harbaugh fire.

1582
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1583
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, well, here's the thing.

1584
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, when you look at John Harborough's

1585
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 4: first five seasons, he won nine playoff games.

1586
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: In the twelve years since, he's won four.

1587
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 4: And one of the problems that they've had is that

1588
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 4: he has a losing record all time to Mike Tomlin.

1589
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: So where's the buzz right now on Ravens camp here?

1590
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: Bridget about who they consider the biggest threat. Is it

1591
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 4: going to be the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, Is it going

1592
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 4: to be Joe Burrown the Bengals. I'm going to leave

1593
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 4: Cleveland out of the mix right now until they actually

1594
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 4: have a quarterback. But I mean Pittsburgh has been a

1595
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 4: thorn in their side in recent years.

1596
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 10: Yes, but here's the thing, there's so many question marks

1597
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 10: with Aaron Rodgers, and we can't it's way too early

1598
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 10: to even know what this Pittsburgh team is going to be.

1599
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 10: I understand at your point, like the Ravens and the

1600
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh have this crazy rivalry and it's always going to

1601
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 10: be like hard, no tough, physical football when these guys

1602
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 10: match up. But when you you look at the Bengels,

1603
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 10: I feel like they've given them more trouble late in

1604
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 10: the season, playoff time than the Steelers have in recent years.

1605
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 10: And with the healthy Joe Burrow, now they have Jamar Chase,

1606
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 10: They've got Tee Higgins. Still, that is a that is

1607
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 10: a dangerous team too. You look at these offenses that

1608
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 10: can put up a lot of numbers, that's that's the Bengals.

1609
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 10: So I mean, it's just the AFC North is going

1610
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 10: to be one of the toughest divisions, especially if Cleveland

1611
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 10: gets this quarterback figured out. I mean, they could still

1612
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 10: be a decent team. But yeah, I think it's just

1613
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 10: the most important thing for this Ravens team is like

1614
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 10: building that depth so that you're not really thin late

1615
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 10: in the season.

1616
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: So, Brigide, since we're looking at July Star story lines

1617
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: at all, is there a player since you've been up

1618
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: there that people are talking about but maybe the rest

1619
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: of the NFL world isn't as familiar with, but that

1620
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 2: they're really excited with in Baltimore.

1621
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, the safety Malachi Starts. He was their first

1622
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 10: round pick. He went layer twenty seventh overall, like that's

1623
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 10: when the Ravens had their pick. He has been a

1624
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 10: spark for this team. Obviously they lost some pieces at safety,

1625
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 10: they needed help in the dB room and he is

1626
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 10: just like being what they wanted to and more. Kyle

1627
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 10: Hamilton says he's miles ahead of where he was at

1628
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 10: that point. And so for Kyle Hamilton a vent now

1629
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 10: to say that about a rookie speaks volumes And I

1630
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 10: also think, I mean people know who he is. But

1631
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 10: Jaya Alexander like he brings a swab to this defense

1632
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 10: that maybe they haven't had in the past. But he's

1633
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 10: like getting in people's faces that practice, breaking up passes,

1634
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 10: engaging with the crowd, and so you know how it

1635
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 10: is like sometimes you need a guy like to pump

1636
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 10: everybody else up and elevate them too one percent.

1637
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: And when you said that, I was like, Yeah, that

1638
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 2: really isn't something we've seen in the Ravens defense.

1639
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 4: Well, very quickly, I just want to ask you about

1640
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 4: the Derrick Henry situation. Obviously an unbelievable year last year

1641
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 4: for the Ravens. How confident are they of a now

1642
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 4: thirty one year old Derrick Henry holding it together and

1643
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 4: having another healthy season.

1644
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 10: Look, he not only played for them last season, but

1645
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 10: he played a lot. He was what seventy nine yards

1646
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 10: away from surpassing two thousand yards rushing. He had his

1647
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 10: best season of his career, setting Ravens records in his

1648
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 10: first year. So we have a chance to interview him

1649
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 10: today and he said, like he feels that much better,

1650
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 10: like having that extra year with Lamar, And in talking

1651
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 10: with people around the ORG organization and at practice today,

1652
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 10: they say that he's so valuable to Lamar because he

1653
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 10: kind of takes some of the pressure off.

1654
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 1: Right before he got.

1655
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 10: Here, it was Bull Lamar Show. Now there's Derrick Henry

1656
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 10: that there are some other stars, which in turn helps

1657
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 10: Lamar as well. So I understand that he's thirty one,

1658
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 10: and I actually had our research team looked it's up

1659
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 10: for me. The average age of retirement for running backs

1660
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 10: is like twenty seven and two hundred days, so he

1661
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 10: is way past that.

1662
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 9: But the way he cares for.

1663
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 10: His body, he still does the avocadosmoothies and the rehab.

1664
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 10: I don't he doesn't look like your average thirty one

1665
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 10: year old running back because he takes such good care

1666
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 10: of his buddy Bridget.

1667
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Lots of good stuff from Ravens Camp.

1668
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,480
Speaker 2: Wonderful to get to talk to you on a Saturday,

1669
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: you guys, We will be right back. This is Fox

1670
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We are coming to you live from the

1671
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. I am Tracy Sandler with Steve

1672
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: Hartman and Steve I'm going to assume this is your

1673
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 2: first feel Good Stories of the Week segment as well.

1674
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: Well.

1675
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 5: I was was my maiden voyage and the dues and.

1676
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: Don'ts you did great, by the way.

1677
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 4: Thank you very much and yes, I have never in

1678
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 4: all my years of radio ever had an I was

1679
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 4: a part of called feel Good Stories of the Week,

1680
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 4: So this is my first time doing this.

1681
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 2: Well welcome and it's a very nice way to end

1682
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: a show.

1683
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 3: I would you like to go first?

1684
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 5: Wow, I'll let you go first on this one.

1685
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: Okay, my feel good story. My first one is Nick

1686
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: Kurtz of the Oakland A's. Yesterday had a tremendous night.

1687
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: Four home runs, a double, a single. He was six

1688
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: or six on the night. He had nineteen total basis bases.

1689
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: He is the first rookie ever with a four home

1690
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: run game. Aside from all of that, which, by the way,

1691
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 2: for A's fans had to be so fun, and A's

1692
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: fans deserve some love and some fun.

1693
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: His family was there to see.

1694
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 5: It, were they really?

1695
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: Yes?

1696
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: And I think that I mean a tremendous night for

1697
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: him stat wise, obviously maybe one of the greatest offensive

1698
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: nights we'll ever see.

1699
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 3: But for his family to.

1700
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: Be there and get to see that night, that just

1701
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: makes it extra stush.

1702
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 5: I mean arguably.

1703
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: I mean, when we talk six or six, I believe

1704
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 4: his six run scored, He's only the six player to

1705
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: do that since nineteen hundred score six cut runs in

1706
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 4: a game. Obviously the first rook he hit four home runs. Now,

1707
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 4: of course the last home run was off a position player.

1708
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, it's still going to go.

1709
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: And that's sort of it's like a lob over the middle.

1710
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 4: But that unbelievable. And by the way, this kid has

1711
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 4: been doing it all season long and he's really kicking

1712
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 4: in a year think about it. I mean, out of

1713
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 4: wake for his first round pick just a year ago,

1714
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: and unbelievable game.

1715
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 5: I am going to go with.

1716
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 4: Something I was talking about last night on local TV

1717
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 4: here in the Los Angeles area, and that is.

1718
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 5: The Little League soft Fault World Series.

1719
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 3: I love this already.

1720
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,480
Speaker 5: And so Westchester del Rey is a school.

1721
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 4: That we are, a team that we had followed here

1722
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 4: in southern California, and they beat a team out of

1723
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: Arizona to qualify to go to the World Series. And

1724
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know how people know about the

1725
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 4: Softball World Little League World Series, but it's been around

1726
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 4: for fifty plus years.

1727
01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,959
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's has a long history.

1728
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 3: But I didn't know that.

1729
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people don't, but now it's getting

1730
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: more attention with the growth of women's sports out there,

1731
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 4: so I was very excited to see the girls. They

1732
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 4: were absolutely going and these are just like, you know,

1733
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 4: the twelve year olds, they're going absolutely nuts and everything else.

1734
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 4: Watching them play is great. You know that sometimes you're

1735
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 4: blown away by what they can do. Other times you're reminded, Yeah,

1736
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 4: they're twelve years old, and you know, I'm making some

1737
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 4: of the mistakes out there. But I like the fact that,

1738
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 4: you know, it's getting a little more attention now. The

1739
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 4: Little League Softball World Series.

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that. I absolutely love that.

1741
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the WNBA earlier,

1742
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: and I want to congratulate Paige Beckers on being the

1743
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: first player in WNBA history to have more than three

1744
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty points and more than one hundred assists

1745
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: in the first twenty games of their career. And that

1746
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: is pretty amazing And obviously the talent is just continuing

1747
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 2: to droll into the WNBA. But I thought that was

1748
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: a pretty fantastic accomplishment for her to get.

1749
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 3: So I feel good about that.

1750
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: I want to add one more here, and we got

1751
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 4: the sorry to believe, I mean feel good. How about

1752
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 4: the start of the NBA NFL season, which is coming

1753
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 4: up obviously here with the Hall of Fame game on Thursday.

1754
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 4: But one of those remember there was only four inductees.

1755
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: They decided they made a conscious effort the Pro Football

1756
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame because it seemed like they were expanding

1757
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 4: the classes. Eight people was just too many, so they

1758
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 4: really made a conscious effort to make it much tougher

1759
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 4: to get in, and so they only had four guys

1760
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 4: go in.

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01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 5: And one of those four is Eric.

1762
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 4: Allen, longtime defensive back and play with the Raiders, play

1763
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: with the Eagles, and I've known Eric forever and he

1764
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: is literally one of the nicest people that I've ever

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 4: met in my life. Associated I mean, you talk about

1766
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 4: a great guy, great team, a great player who I

1767
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 4: never thought was going to really be afforded, you know,

1768
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 4: so the distinction of being called a Pro Football Hall

1769
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 4: of Famer.

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see his speech. But if ever,

1771
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 5: just a.

1772
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 4: Good guy, well deserved, not overlooked, should never have been

1773
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 4: overlook should have been in years ago, finally getting his

1774
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 4: day in the spotlight. Eric Allen, congratulations on being a

1775
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer.

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01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 3: Well, I love that.

1777
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: That is fantastic and I cannot believe we are already

1778
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: coming up to the Hall of Fame game. The rest

1779
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: of the preseason starts a week later.

1780
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 4: I'll tell everybody, Tracy, because you're going to be everywhere

1781
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: in the weeks ahead, are you not.

1782
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: I Am going to be all over the place.

1783
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 5: So get where exactly.

1784
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: I will be up in forty nine ers training camp,

1785
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 2: but keeping a very close eye on the young men

1786
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: in Santa Clara and how they are going to progress

1787
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: this season. A lot of brock perty as you mentioned,

1788
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: it's a big season for him. They have a lot

1789
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 2: of young new players on this team, so interesting infusion

1790
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 2: of youth. They have a preseason game in Las Vegas.

1791
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: They have joint practice with the Raiders, joint practice with

1792
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: the Broncos in Santa Clara, so I'll get a first

1793
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: hand look at this Broncos team.

1794
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: So I will be kind of all.

1795
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: Over the place in the next several weeks, and then

1796
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: once the season starts, I will be at a football

1797
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: stadium potentially near you every Sunday, some Thursdays, and some Mondays.

1798
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: But I'm excited about it. It's a lot of fun

1799
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: and I've had a lot of fun today, Steve, Thank you.

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01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 4: Crazy has been a pleasure for me to hang out

1801
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 4: with you today, even if I go back in time

1802
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 4: too many times.

1803
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 5: But that's the way I operate over here.

1804
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 3: No, I like it, I like hearing it. You guys,

1805
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: thank you for joining us.

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01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Jason Fitz and Buck Rising, Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Goodbye,