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Speaker 2: and there's more to go with it about the allure

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Speaker 2: for teens adolescents of these AI chat bot characters, which

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Speaker 2: you'll hear more about, and how it can go awry Michael.

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Speaker 3: Kids under eighteen are limited and how much time they

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Speaker 3: can spend chatting with a virtual companion on the platform

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Speaker 3: character AI. By the end of the month, teens will

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Speaker 3: be banned from using that feature altogether. The move comes

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Speaker 3: after parents like Mandy Furnas are suing the company. Furnace

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Speaker 3: vividly remembers the day she discovered hes on fixation with

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Speaker 4: He went from a happy, go lucky kid. He developed

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Speaker 2: LJ was cutting his arm.

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Speaker 4: It told him that it goes to the forest where

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Speaker 3: LJ is currently getting treatment at a mental health facility

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Speaker 3: and estimated seventy two percent of teens have interacted with

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Speaker 2: Well, that's horrified.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to make a blanket policies built on

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Speaker 2: Which I'm hoping is the case. Well, mom said no, right,

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Speaker 2: she's not necessarily one hundred percent right, But well, in

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Speaker 2: what world is it okay that the the AI character says,

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Speaker 2: I like to go out into the woods. Hello, let's

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Speaker 5: That's beyond impossible to understand why this is what we're

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Speaker 5: with the morals rules you had in mind when you

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Speaker 5: nobody's creating a chatbot with the idea that it will

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Speaker 2: Yet it did yes right exactly, which is incredibly troubling.

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Speaker 2: I'm also reminded of the fact that some of the

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Speaker 2: other greatest minds of this generation have spent their careers

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Speaker 2: making scads of money, addicting people to various social media

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Speaker 2: This is a different report. That one was ABC News.

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Speaker 2: This one is Fox News sixty one.

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Speaker 6: Michael I had never heard of character Ai when Juliana

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Speaker 7: Sent Ya Montoya says her thirteen year old daughter, Julianna Peralta,

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Speaker 5: Well, that's absolutely horrible for those parents. Obviously, I can't

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Speaker 5: But so it's interesting on both ends. Why are these

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Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about my own teens. They get angry

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Speaker 7: Kurz is one of three families suing character Ai, accusing

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Speaker 6: When parents start to look at character Ai on their kids' phones,

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Speaker 7: In the filing, Juliana's parents say she had begun distrusting most,

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Speaker 7: if not all, human relationships, and claimed the bots engaged

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Speaker 2: Now that I don't know this particular clothing in cloding,

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Speaker 5: I don't know anything about this particular chat thing. I'd

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Speaker 5: I believe you. I just never heard of it myself,

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Speaker 5: but it's certainly not is it programmed to you think.

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Speaker 2: No, Well, no, I go back to your statement that

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Speaker 2: it's impossible to align this stuff. Why it goes rogue

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Speaker 2: the suit, which compares the two teenagers' deaths. Police later

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Speaker 2: now we're into a whole new thing. So phenomenon something

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Speaker 2: AI expert professor Ken Fleischman told The Daily Mail he's

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Speaker 5: Or I would think the danger would be if the

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Speaker 2: Right right, and to an adolescent, that can be very

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Speaker 2: to talk. After months of conversations with Danny, sets Or

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Speaker 2: The lawsuit claims now and there's a lot to it.

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Speaker 2: Chat Fott wrote, oh did they were quote unquote in love?

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Speaker 2: And then he can find about his depression suicidal ideation

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Speaker 2: is good. But then, but when Suell wrote, I promise

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Speaker 2: Danny encouraged the team to come home to me as

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Speaker 2: The reply from Danny red per the filings. Seconds later,

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Speaker 2: know what to do with this information. AI slashed the

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Speaker 2: Internet and not nuclear weapons is the tool human beings

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Speaker 5: Was it only gonna destroy First world countries? Because there's

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Speaker 5: interesting question. They ain't doing this.

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Speaker 2: It's your hand chopped off.

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Speaker 5: You might, yeah, you might get your hand chopped off

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Speaker 5: for being the wrong kind of god loving whatever, but

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Speaker 2: So right right, what I.

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Speaker 5: Wonder is if lawsuits can slow down the AI train.

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Speaker 5: The lawsuits slow down a lot of things in ways

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Speaker 5: that I don't like. Maybe in this case it'll be

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Speaker 5: we can't hold them responsible for this. I taken a

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Speaker 5: lot of AI information, as you know, if you listen,

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Speaker 5: don't know why these AI bots do a lot of things,

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Speaker 2: Well, and I don't I suppose I need to think

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Speaker 2: of I don't know go kart that explodes every eleven rides,

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Speaker 2: Isn't that mysterious? So keep using it? Right? Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: purpose in ranting about this is so parents know, whether

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Speaker 2: it's the Internet, social media and we've said this many

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Speaker 5: Will come up with a personality type that's more susceptible

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great point. There's definitely a personality

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Speaker 5: If that is an attempt to be honest, that could

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Speaker 5: little shout of espresso. Then I watched them clean for

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Speaker 5: like a half an hour, and I thought, I don't

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Speaker 2: I have no interest in that. So I got the

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Speaker 2: whatever self cleaning something or other. Whatever. Well, I'll see

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Speaker 2: if I like it, or I send me to copy

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Speaker 2: that and paste that to a text. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: see what you went with.

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Speaker 5: I'll see if I again desperate attempt to make myself

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Speaker 5: happy with commercial items.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was buying a storm.

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Speaker 5: I needed to get a new computer for my son

446
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Speaker 5: the other day and I was trying to compare various things.

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Speaker 5: I gave chat GPT, I told chat GPT, I did

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Speaker 5: the same thing on groc and Claude said, this is

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Speaker 5: what my son does with it a computer, this is

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Speaker 5: the game he wants, wants what kind of computer should get.

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Speaker 5: And it started comparing and contrasting and strengths and weaknesses

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Speaker 5: and asking me questions and narrowing it down and saying

453
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Speaker 5: this would be overkill, so don't.

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Speaker 2: Buy that, baba. It was amazing, absolutely amazing. It would

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Speaker 2: have taken me hours to do that kind of research

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Speaker 2: on my own. Yeah, I've done a couple of things

457
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Speaker 2: like that lately, and it's just absolutely stunning. It's funny

458
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Speaker 2: because you know that. And we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: differences between men and women during our two in general,

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Speaker 2: and you know, guys knowing things and being able to

461
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Speaker 2: do things is how we have status. But now everybody

462
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Speaker 2: knows everything. If you master the rather easy art of

463
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Speaker 2: using AI systems, now it helps that you know what

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Speaker 2: to ask and how to ask, but really not much.

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Speaker 2: So now everybody knows everything.

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Speaker 5: I was watching all these videos about espresso beans versus

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Speaker 5: coffee beans and how long after they've been roasted you

468
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Speaker 5: should use them, and I thought, I was thinking the

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Speaker 5: whole time, it's amazing what human beings will do to

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Speaker 5: avoid like thinking about their actual lives.

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Speaker 2: Whether you get into this or that or whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: it's just yeah, yeah, we need our enthusiasms. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: are you going to do? Citrou on contemplate to you know, death.

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Speaker 5: All the time or a point of life. That's a

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Speaker 5: good point too. My only supposed to think about parenting

476
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Speaker 5: and mortality or can Sometimes I get brought up in

477
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Speaker 5: you know, researching a new bicycle or a coffeemaker or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Life is short and hard and there's a lot of pain.

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Speaker 2: So if you find something that makes you happy, if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt somebody else, do it. I'll end on

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Speaker 2: that that's really good.

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Speaker 8: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack your show

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Speaker 8: podcasts and our Hot Lakes and.

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Speaker 1: The arm Strong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 2: Katie brought us this. Katie.

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Speaker 5: Katie's the most exercising person on the show, probably although

487
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Speaker 5: we all work out regularly. That's why we all look

488
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Speaker 5: so fantastic. But the headline being running noses, black toenails

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Speaker 5: and coorgasms, which I can't wait to get to. Seven

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Speaker 5: weird ailments that I can exercise can trigger. I think

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Speaker 5: some of these you've heard of and know about. I

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Speaker 5: didn't know about this one. I've never had it happen.

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Speaker 5: Getting a metallic taste.

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Speaker 2: In your mouth. You ever had that happen before?

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Speaker 5: I don't think I have, caused by an increase in

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Speaker 5: heart rate and blood pressure that occurs if you exercise

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Speaker 5: really really hard, breaks delicate blood vessels in your nose,

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Speaker 5: and then you got a little bit of blood dripping

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Speaker 5: back into the back of your throat and you're tasting blood.

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Speaker 5: And that's why you get a metallic taste in your

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Speaker 5: mouth sometimes for your exercise.

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Speaker 2: Hard h. I haven't had that happen.

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Speaker 5: It's elite cyclists and ultra marathons or any of us

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Speaker 5: elite cyclists or ultra marathoners.

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Speaker 2: No, we are not. Yeah, I was close for my

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Speaker 2: age group there for a couple of years when I

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Speaker 2: was mountain biking like a maniac with Craig the healthcare guru.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, get to coorgasms. Are you ready for

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Speaker 2: this one?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Bleeding from the anus and nipples? Whoa simultaneously. Oh

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Speaker 2: it's a long day.

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Speaker 5: Oh Joe, I can't help noticing, but you are. I

514
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Speaker 5: feel like you ought to get to a doctor. I agree,

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Speaker 5: it's going out of both ends.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 5: I've had the one, but not the The nipple thing

518
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Speaker 5: is common for anybody who runs long distances. If you

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Speaker 5: forget to pull, if you forget to either put vascline

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Speaker 5: on your nipples or band aids on your nipples, you

521
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Speaker 5: will end up with bleeding nipples.

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Speaker 2: So painful distance running, Oh yeah, anything like half marathon

523
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Speaker 2: or longer. That is going to happen. That's just part

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Speaker 2: of life. I don't run, so not a problem we women,

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Speaker 2: pretty much.

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Speaker 5: I think it's mostly a guy thing. Women with a

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Speaker 5: tight sports bras keeping things in place. But is this

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Speaker 5: just from your shirt content? Yes, your shirt.

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Speaker 2: Going illy down? Yeah, out it does. And it feels

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Speaker 2: like somebody took a lighter and put a flame right

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Speaker 2: to your nipple. Oh yeah, seriously, I would tell all secrets.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to know?

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Speaker 5: As far as the southern end of the northbound mule

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Speaker 5: on this, So, the gastro intestinal tract receives about twenty

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Speaker 5: five percent of the blood from the heart, but during

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Speaker 5: exercise it drops by eighty percent, so it ain't getting

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Speaker 5: no blood to do its thing. This causes a short

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Speaker 5: term lack of oxygen to your You know, you're the

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Speaker 5: part of your body that's figuring out a exit your food.

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Speaker 5: When the blood flow returns to normal after a run,

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Speaker 5: the increased flow can hit the vessels all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: It's like a dam breaking or whatever. Then you got

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Speaker 2: the being from the A. It can happen on you. Wow,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, to be from your A.

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Speaker 5: It's usually not a horrible problem, but you know, people

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Speaker 5: don't know that that could happen, and you get concerned.

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Speaker 2: I would get concerned, too, concerned. Concerned don't be getting

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Speaker 2: to describe it. I'd be worried as hell, terrified. I'm

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Speaker 2: on my way to the e R honey, meet me there.

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Speaker 2: Why I'm being from my A and my ends all

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Speaker 2: the same time?

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Speaker 8: Oh geez?

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Speaker 2: What next? Rash? Is common blackened toenails?

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Speaker 5: I think anybody has heard of that with people who

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Speaker 5: runners toenail, people who do a lot of running. That's

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Speaker 5: never happened to me. It canna happen with tennis players,

557
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Speaker 5: people who dance a lot, anything like that. It's just

558
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Speaker 5: basically just jamming your toes up the end of your

559
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Speaker 5: shoe too many times. Okay, running nose. I get a

560
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Speaker 5: running nose when I exercise. Sometimes happens with people. It's

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Speaker 5: one of your body's protective mechanisms. It's on the offense

562
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Speaker 5: when it feels like it's under stressed and it starts

563
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Speaker 5: to run. Red eyes can happen if you're lifting heavyweight

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Speaker 5: you burst a vessel in your eye. I haven't had

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Speaker 5: that happen.

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Speaker 2: Happing at a gym one time when I was there,

567
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Speaker 2: guy was lifting weights and he just turned around and

568
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Speaker 2: his eye was like, ah, that happened to you. Good

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Speaker 2: loss you look I'm a little too heavy there. And

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Speaker 2: then finally number seven, This is the one everybody's been

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Speaker 2: waiting for. Coorgasms.

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Speaker 5: For some people, exercise can lead to an exercise induced orgasm,

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Speaker 5: or what they call a coorgasm. While abdominal and core

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Speaker 5: muscle exercises are common triggers, they aren't the only exercise

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Speaker 5: that can induce one. Some people have reported to experience

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Speaker 5: one while cycling, weightlifting, running, doing yoga, or even walking walking.

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Speaker 2: That'd be awesome, go for a walk, whatever the opposite

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Speaker 2: of that is. That's what I have. It'd be awesome

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Speaker 2: to go for a walk. Is ah, those are the

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Speaker 2: noises I make. In case you were wondering, Oh great,

581
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Speaker 2: very good, very good. That will haunt my dreams. I

582
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Speaker 2: need to know.

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Speaker 5: I wonder how many people that happens with, Like one

584
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Speaker 5: in a million. Has it happened once ever to a

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Speaker 5: human being?

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Speaker 2: Or there are a lot of people in the gym

587
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Speaker 2: that are going out over there, and I don't even know.

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Speaker 5: You got earbuds in. You don't know, right, I got

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Speaker 5: the earbuds in. I don't hear them moaning.

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Speaker 2: You said, this happens during which exercises.

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Speaker 5: Usually anything that's core related. That's what they call it

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Speaker 5: a coorgasm. You said cycling though, right, cycling can do

593
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Speaker 5: it that you know, you got the seat.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the only one that's drinking any Not for dudes. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: trust me, women tend to experience them more than men.

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Speaker 2: Uh so you'd have you'd know more about this. So

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Speaker 2: noney of your friends have ever mentioned, wow, I really

598
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Speaker 2: really got off during the gym today. No, that conversation

599
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Speaker 2: has never happened in my circle of friends twice in

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Speaker 2: the history of mankind. But they just wanted to get

601
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Speaker 2: you to click because I'm getting that ceiling more like

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Speaker 2: corchure or corgany well.

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Speaker 5: And doorphins in general are orgasm accelerators, So if you,

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Speaker 5: you know, are getting close, that makes it more likely

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Speaker 5: to happen. I guess I just in general, people who

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Speaker 5: feel good while they're exercising, I wish I had that.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I feel good after I work out, always do,

608
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Speaker 2: always feel great, so happy I did it, feeling strong

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Speaker 2: and young and vibrants and all those words. But rant,

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Speaker 2: how you doing today? Joe vibrant, but during it, I

611
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Speaker 2: hate it. I've never had a runners high in my life.

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Speaker 5: Every step plotting, jolting, every bit of my brain wishing

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Speaker 5: I was dead every step not Oh this is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I'm floating along and so we wait to forget my troubles.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy weightlifting, but all cardio can just go straight

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Speaker 2: to hell. I hate it. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only thing to say me Katie was putting the

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Speaker 2: iPad up there and watching news shows. I'm gonna watch anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I did that on the elliptical or what happened,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'll watch sports. Sports the best thing to

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Speaker 2: do during cardio because you get these shots of adrenaline

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Speaker 2: and gas and you get after. It works really good

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Speaker 2: with planks.

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Speaker 5: I've started putting my little cell phone down right in

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Speaker 5: front of my face and putting something on the video

627
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Speaker 5: that I can kind of get lost in.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise it's like I'm counting the seconds. Yeah, well it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a shame. We're running out of time. We're

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Speaker 2: not going to get to rectal prolapse and our powerlifters,

631
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Speaker 2: which happens now and again always. I'm feeling a cor gas.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming on. Oh god, stop it, invert your eyes.

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