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Speaker 1: Tonight's case, we're looking at Beverly Hills, California. It's a
Speaker 1: very nice area. If you haven't been August. This is
Speaker 1: before we've heard a term called affluenza before O J. Simpson.
Speaker 1: This is probably been up in our top ten most
Speaker 1: requested cases. I think maybe top five. I don't know
Speaker 1: what are we talking about tonight, Aaron. The Menendez brothers case,
Speaker 1: which involved the slangs of Jose and Kitty Menendez, which
Speaker 1: were the parents of Lyle and Eric Menendez. Eric was
Speaker 1: eighteen years old at the time and Lyle was twenty one.
Speaker 1: The Menendez estate was valued at more than fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: On this night, Lyle and Eric, armed with shotguns, enter
Speaker 1: their parents home. They point their weapons at their parents,
Speaker 1: who are sitting on the couch watching a James Bond movie,
Speaker 1: and they began to shoot their parents with these pump
Speaker 1: action shotguns. Yeah, twelve gage shotguns. It is said that
Speaker 1: Jose didn't even know this happened. He died immediately. Now,
Speaker 1: their mother, Kitty, she actually jumped up and tried to
Speaker 1: run away after the initial volley of blasts coming at them.
Speaker 1: She was injured, but she tried to escape, and we
Speaker 1: know this because there was blood in the tread of
Speaker 1: her sneakers. So Lyle and Eric had to reload. I
Speaker 1: think they had to go back out to their car
Speaker 1: and grab more ammo and reload. They didn't have extra
Speaker 1: shotgun shells on them, so they had to go back
Speaker 1: out to the car and get more to finish off
Speaker 1: their mother, right, And I believe Eric handed the ammunition
Speaker 1: to his brother Lyle, who loaded the shotgun and then
Speaker 1: proceeded to go inside and finished off his own mother.
Speaker 1: So this isn't really a heat of the moment type deal.
Speaker 1: This isn't a break This is they had shotguns and
Speaker 1: they went in and they slaughtered their parents. So after
Speaker 1: they shoot their parents, they end up calling and you
Speaker 1: can find this phone call. It's readily available pretty much
Speaker 1: anywhere in any documentary about this uh this case, and
Speaker 1: they tell the dispatchers that they have come home to
Speaker 1: find their parents have been murdered. Yeah, they had said
Speaker 1: they had gone out to the movies and then, as
Speaker 1: you said, they'd come home and found their parents murdered.
Speaker 1: So what movie did they say they went out and saw. Well,
Speaker 1: they had planned to go see Batman, but it was
Speaker 1: sold out. I mean, I don't know if you remember
Speaker 1: at the time, but that movie was huge when it
Speaker 1: came out. It was Tim Burton's Batman. This was so
Speaker 1: they went to another movie, which was a James Bond
Speaker 1: film titled License to Kill. We know they're lying to dispatchers.
Speaker 1: They're screaming and yelling and playing off that they found
Speaker 1: their parents. And it's just ironic that they would say that, oh,
Speaker 1: we went to a Bond movie when that just happens
Speaker 1: to be the same movie. That not the same movie,
Speaker 1: but another James Bond movie that their parents are watching.
Speaker 1: Just a little connection there. I know you're a big
Speaker 1: Bond movie fan. So we know that they planned to
Speaker 1: kill their parents, but at the time when police showed up,
Speaker 1: they didn't admit to killing their parents. No, they stick
Speaker 1: to their story that they find their parents when they
Speaker 1: came home. They were at this James Bond movie, and
Speaker 1: they were at this movie. And they even go so
Speaker 1: far as to insinuate that it might be a mob
Speaker 1: hit because of some of the wounds to their parents,
Speaker 1: which includes shooting them in the kneecap, and I guess
Speaker 1: that's a technique that it's claimed mobsters will use cap them.
Speaker 1: The police truly believe that what they're seeing is a
Speaker 1: cold blooded murder, and they believe these two very affluent,
Speaker 1: rich Everyone calls them the boys and kids, but they're adults.
Speaker 1: What the police won't do is do a preemptive gunshot
Speaker 1: residue test on either one of their hands. They won't
Speaker 1: search their cars, which that's where they put the shotguns
Speaker 1: after they murdered their parents, was in the trunk of
Speaker 1: their cars. They actually ended up ditching those shotguns near
Speaker 1: Mulholland Drive, and they did that before they went to
Speaker 1: buy tickets at the movie theater. This is to try
Speaker 1: to establish their alibi of why they weren't home at
Speaker 1: the time of the murder. So this is around ten
Speaker 1: o'clock at night. All we can say is the investigators
Speaker 1: did talk to them for hours, but you know, there's
Speaker 1: so much they missed and I think it's because sometimes
Speaker 1: and I'm sure anybody can make mistakes, but there was
Speaker 1: a lot of assuming going on. They assumed that these
Speaker 1: sons were very distraught by the murders of their parents,
Speaker 1: and that they weren't likely to be involved. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if them being part of a wealthy family
Speaker 1: had something to do with that. I kind of want
Speaker 1: to say yes. I think that's a huge factor. This
Speaker 1: is Beverly Hills. They're living in a mansion with tennis
Speaker 1: courts out back. You change this situation, you put this
Speaker 1: murder anywhere else, I think. I think the police are
Speaker 1: going to be questioning the the guys whoever finds the victims,
Speaker 1: and probably testing their hands. But who knows. The investigators
Speaker 1: spoke with neighbors and they had reported hearing something around
Speaker 1: ten pm bangs, but they thought it was just kids
Speaker 1: playing with fireworks or something. But that's about the time
Speaker 1: that this couple was murdered. They probably don't know what
Speaker 1: gunfire sounds like. Jose had been shot five or six
Speaker 1: times with shotguns, and his wife, Kitty had been shot
Speaker 1: about ten times. Jose's unrecognizable. Uh, they pretty much blew
Speaker 1: his head off. Kitty similar situation. It's gruesome. Yeah, kitty
Speaker 1: was shot in the face, and so you look at
Speaker 1: this crime and you think this is a crime of
Speaker 1: hatred or of payback. So when Lyle called the police,
Speaker 1: he called about PM and as we already said, he
Speaker 1: sounded really upset. In fact, they had trouble understanding him
Speaker 1: because he was so upset on the phone. And we've
Speaker 1: talked before about nine one one calls and how people
Speaker 1: sound and this and that. But this is a distraught
Speaker 1: person on the phone. I mean, if someone just played
Speaker 1: that call and didn't give me any other information, it
Speaker 1: sounds serious, it sounds legit, and it's hard to determine
Speaker 1: anything off a nine one one call. Anyone that says, oh,
Speaker 1: I can tell they're lying. It's like, okay, whatever. In
Speaker 1: this case, we know the truth going in, so it's
Speaker 1: easy to dismantle his call. But he's a good actor.
Speaker 1: And guess what, shooting your parents or killing somebody is
Speaker 1: a very high stress situation, and you can use that
Speaker 1: two in fluence. You're heightened, you know, state and cry
Speaker 1: and and scream and yell, and its sounds and looks
Speaker 1: legit because you are distraught because you've just done something
Speaker 1: that's terrible. There were a couple of detectives assigned to
Speaker 1: this case. Unfortunately for them, this whole mob hit angle
Speaker 1: didn't really work. They couldn't find any way to establish
Speaker 1: that there was a connection here other than it does
Speaker 1: look like it could have been a mob hit. That
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