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Speaker 2: Our lads report today of a certain quarterback on campus.

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Speaker 4: Let's say the name correctly.

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Speaker 3: And I'm getting Sophie now, like, oh Mac, did.

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Speaker 2: You say this? They got Will Levi's coming in.

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Speaker 3: This will outstand.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not a big hooker guy.

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Speaker 5: Pam is honestly, hands down one of the worst like

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Speaker 5: TV characters. And you were engaged and then you clearly

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at ji Lette Stadium. But more importantly, it's Draft week

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Speaker 2: finally that's coming in two days on Thursdays. So we're excited.

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Speaker 2: We just had another one of our draft meetings. Make

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Speaker 2: sure everybody's ready, rolls and responsibilities. More importantly, food gets ordered,

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Speaker 2: so we're ready to go. It's Deuce, it's Evan.

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Speaker 3: Paul's back, glad to be back.

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Speaker 2: From his vaca, a little bit back from his vac

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Speaker 2: used the sunscreen, very smart, and we got Deuce. We

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Speaker 3: They're busy.

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Speaker 2: They're busy.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't get them down here.

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Speaker 7: I think they knew that this was like the last

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Speaker 7: draft show and we'll probably gonna be this is Evan's

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Speaker 7: time to shine. Where we put all the hay in

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Speaker 7: the barn and sum it all up, and I think

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Speaker 7: we're all just well.

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Speaker 2: We will be talking to draft obviously, but you know,

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Speaker 2: there is some other news out there that we have

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Speaker 2: to address. Aaron Rodgers, it's official they've come to terms

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Speaker 2: the Packers with the Jets, and he is going to

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Speaker 2: be in the AFC East. How do we feel about that? Not?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't Mike no.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's I mean I would say, like, hey,

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Speaker 7: it'd be kind of fun to see Aaron Rogers twice

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Speaker 3: I mean that's you.

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Speaker 7: Know, jumping out of my Patriots work slash fandom for

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Speaker 7: a second, Like all right, that's nice.

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Speaker 3: But and and I'll say one other nice thing. It's

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Speaker 3: nice that the Jets aren't picking right before them just

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Speaker 3: for superficial purposes. Like I like that that was the.

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Speaker 2: Jets were picking thirteen. Now they've moved to fifteen, and

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Speaker 7: Might change nothing, but you know still but yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 7: not what the Patriots need. I mean, it's just another

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Speaker 7: I think it just puts more of a spotlight on

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Speaker 7: Evan said, we recorded our final draft podcast this morning,

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Speaker 7: and I like Devan's point of just saying like I

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Speaker 3: Exactly, but like you need like a splash, like.

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Speaker 7: You need something like Jets fans today feeling pretty good

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Speaker 7: something like that. I know that that football doesn't want

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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you, you know, his first year, he's gonna

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Speaker 5: all in. But I think in general it's if the

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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. My worst nightmare is, you know,

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Speaker 4: I understand the point. It's not necessarily about the specific right.

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Speaker 4: they have enough. I think the way you put it,

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Speaker 7: And that's what we talked about last year after those

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Speaker 3: All the things that we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Now, I listen, I'm worried. I'm worried.

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Speaker 4: I am. I mean, I think you can pretend to

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Speaker 2: I think he'd lean defense.

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Speaker 2: Him that's an easier answer.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just don't think that he can bring himself

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Speaker 7: So that's my only hope that he kind of recognizes

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Speaker 2: In free agency, we talk about you know, and I

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Speaker 2: agree Evan, if Rogers had been in those two games

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Speaker 2: last year, they would have won. What if Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a fair point. I just think

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Speaker 5: we feel like they're a playoff team and we were.

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Speaker 7: Know, there's just no secret to the formula. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And we all saw it.

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Speaker 7: But it's like, how many of these contender teams, like

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Speaker 7: wide receiver, the quarterback, the cornerback, the a tackle and

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Speaker 7: they oh, we need just one, let's go get Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 7: You know, you can get to that point where all right,

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Speaker 7: that's the way to play free agency, to play trades,

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Speaker 7: But it all starts with stacking drafts.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Stacking drafts allow you to be selective in free agency,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think, to Evan's point, you're not gonna

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Speaker 7: that's going to control the middle of the field. Like,

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Speaker 7: it's just unrealistic to think that that's going to happen,

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Speaker 7: even that they're going to draft those specific needs that.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's so focused on. It could very well.

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Speaker 7: Be they strike with an edge, they grab a tight

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Speaker 7: end higher than and people you know who prefer a

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Speaker 5: Much as you want a receiver and want to want

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Speaker 5: that offensive playmaker, I just think that at this point,

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Speaker 5: think that taking to say Flowers is trying to put

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Speaker 5: now you got to really just try to stack as

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Speaker 7: And that's what's hard with like the potential tackle pick,

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Speaker 7: it's probably not what they need, but it is what

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Speaker 7: to your point, there's nobody who's really going to make

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Speaker 7: I mean, and this is a conversation we've been having

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Speaker 7: There's no real caveats other than he needs experience and

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Speaker 7: to get into an NFL system. So you know, that's

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Speaker 7: think the conversations will be having if they take one

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Speaker 7: of those tackles and say, look, I know it's not sexy,

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Speaker 7: but Patriots are ways off and they got to start

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Speaker 7: stacking really good players and this is a good player.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the whole thing about the Jets too, to me

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Speaker 4: is I agree that it's not like, oh, there's your

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Speaker 4: you you brought up the Bill O'Brien thing, Fred, And again,

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Speaker 4: I think there's an enormous amount of pressure on Bill

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Speaker 4: you do, that the coordinator is worth wins. I'll believe

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Speaker 4: that when I see it.

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Speaker 2: But it was definitely worth loss according to a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't know that either. Just in fairness,

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Speaker 4: I just don't think they played very well. I think

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Speaker 2: So they should have kept that.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, I don't think that. I think

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Speaker 4: it can be worth losses but worth wins. Yeah, And

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like the old adage, right, It's like

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you go out and win quit twenty

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Speaker 4: really look at it that way. But with the Jets,

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Speaker 4: it's it's been two games that you can rely on

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Speaker 4: that you're gonna win for how long? How many in

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Speaker 4: a row? Twelve years, sixteen? Over time? Over how many

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Speaker 4: think it's like sixteen. Okay, So that's been something that

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Speaker 4: you've absolutely counted on. You can't count on a suitep

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Speaker 4: of the Jets. I think right now, if you're being

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's a big difference. That's a big difference. You've

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Speaker 4: had a hard time with Buffalo, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's put it nicely.

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Speaker 4: And Miami you split with kind of an asterisk because

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Speaker 4: you beat the third string quarterback and that's really the

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Speaker 4: only time you've been and you finished behind them. So

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Speaker 4: just you know, Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Rogers, Jackson, Herbert, Lawrence Watson, Wilson, Tua,

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Speaker 2: You have to hit them all.

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Speaker 4: Four of those quarterbacks won't make the playoffs, right, Four

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Speaker 4: of those guys won't make at least at least four

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Speaker 4: you're dealing with and if everybody is right and you

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Speaker 4: need to have a you know, strong play at the

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Speaker 4: quarterback position, there's a lot of pressure on Mac Jones

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Speaker 4: and Bill O'Brien to get this right so they can

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Speaker 4: keep up with some of these teams.

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Speaker 3: Yep, well maybe this would be a good spot to dovetail.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin your.

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Speaker 7: Intro, but just to highlight Gardy's tweet which you mentioned

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Speaker 7: on the way down, which just popped up Will Levis.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Evan, GARDI just tweeting out. We talked about

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Speaker 7: Levis coming by last week. As I mentioned on Felger

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Speaker 7: and Holly last night, there was real interest in QB.

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Speaker 7: Will Levis from the Patriots, not universally, but they are

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Speaker 7: important folks in that building that believe in the talent.

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Speaker 7: What I've heard about his visit from other stops, he

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Speaker 7: hasn't blown anyone away. That dovetails, Hey, I just used

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Speaker 7: to dovetails was something that I was told by a

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Speaker 7: It's not that he's an unlikable kid, but players didn't

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Speaker 7: gravitate to him either. Can that leadership quality factor be learned.

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Speaker 4: Sack Wilson, No, the guy on the draft, the quarterback

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Speaker 4: and the draft that they didn't go to his birthday party,

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Speaker 4: Sack Wilson. Why can't I think of his name?

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Speaker 2: Is it? I don't know, I don't want Wilson.

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Speaker 4: Zach Wilson is a real guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh in Oh in the movie, in the movie, Oh

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Speaker 5: in the draft, d draft.

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Speaker 4: I thought you're talking about the rest. A lot of

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Speaker 4: that actually happened with Zach wil I'm pretty sure wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Jake Cushman was the cush.

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Speaker 2: Cush So that kind of dovetails to my son. Did

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Speaker 2: this cush that kind of dovetails to the quarterback talk

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the draft. I want to just

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Speaker 2: discuss the c. J. Stroud situation a little bit. He

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Speaker 2: had this S two comprehension test that a lot of

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Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks took, and it got leaked out that

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Speaker 2: he scored a BIS move as bysmally eighteen. Yeah, eighteen

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Speaker 2: out of one hundred and supposedly right and now I

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Speaker 2: I on the Pat McAfee show. They had somebody from this.

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Speaker 4: Company, the owner of the company.

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Speaker 2: The owner, and he said he couldn't say specifically players

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Speaker 2: said it may have been out of context that reporting

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Speaker 2: of the eighteen, that it may not necessarily reflect his

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Speaker 2: true score or what happened and all that stuff. But

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Speaker 2: it's out there now, Like what are we hearing? Are

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Speaker 2: we thinking that c J. Stroud may not go high

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Speaker 2: up now?

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Speaker 3: Or I just feel like it's clockwork.

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Speaker 7: Every every year the week before the draft, someone's a

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Speaker 4: Actually worked, like Laramie Tunsel with that thing that came

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Speaker 4: out the Dratton, Like all of a sudden, he's whatever thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Wearing a gas mask, taken bond.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but I don't necessarily I mean, Bryce Young has

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Speaker 4: like before any of this came out.

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Speaker 2: Unless unless you read our lads, because they've got CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud ranked high.

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Speaker 4: Carolina. But I'm okay with with our lads, Like if

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Speaker 4: that's if they if they I.

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Speaker 2: Heard it, I heard it, I heard it. Keep going.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go into a rabbit hole talking,

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Speaker 4: But I'm okay if if they think that c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud is better, I don't like, but I assume that

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Speaker 4: that's their rankings.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's their ranking.

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Speaker 4: But I like, I don't think anybody is an idiot.

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Speaker 4: For like, if you like Stroud better than Young, to

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Speaker 4: each his own, I I like Stroud a lot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's good.

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Speaker 2: What if he is not? What if he does have?

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Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't seem to affect his ability to

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Speaker 3: What is this test?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 4: Is this like one of like it's the new.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a little bit more from what I understand,

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Speaker 5: it's kind of like playing a video game, and it

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Speaker 5: with with Stroud that seems to be more two things.

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Speaker 5: I think around the league there's a lot of fear

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Speaker 4: Succeeding.

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Speaker 5: And I think the other thing is is that there

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Speaker 5: ethic and his want to and his drive and all

439
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 5: those types of things. I know that that thing came

440
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 5: out about the Manning Camp, that he bailed on the

441
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 5: Manning Camp at the last second and ghosted the people

442
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 5: that run the camp and didn't show up, and things

443
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 5: like that that I think are out there a little

444
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 5: bit now that scream some team is trying to get CJ.

445
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 5: Stroud to fall to them. But maybe there's some truth

446
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 5: to it. But justin Fields a couple of years ago,

447
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 5: is the media's consensus QB two by a wide margin,

448
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 5: and he ended up falling to what ten or eleven

449
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 5: in that draft. So I don't think it's totally outlandish.

450
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Levis, we did report last weeks as well

451
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: as others that he was here. But now Giardi is

452
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: saying there's true interest. It wasn't just a smoke screen.

453
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

454
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 4: Brier said that Sunday night too. Yeah, a similar kind

455
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 4: of thing that.

456
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 3: Had Yeah, I mean doing their homework.

457
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 7: I just there's some intrigue there, and I again, like

458
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna stay at the top.

459
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 3: I think Mac deserves another chance. I don't think he.

460
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 7: Got the full fair share last year of fair Shake.

461
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 7: But there's just something about that kid love us that's intriguing,

462
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 7: you know.

463
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: And if you if you really, if you're really sitting

464
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Speaker 3: here and.

465
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Speaker 7: You're saying, I don't think Max's ever gonna take down

466
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 7: Josh Allen. He might not take down to a you know,

467
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 7: at what point do you say, maybe you just go again?

468
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,479
Speaker 3: You go back? You got him at fifteen, take one

469
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: or fourteen again. I don't think they should, but I

470
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't completely rule it out.

471
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: What what do they I mean, clearly that's an indictment

472
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: on Mac. If they did that, right, you don't take well,

473
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: that's what I put a quarterback at fifteen.

474
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 4: Why not taking a first round quarterback? If they're convinced

475
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: that they have a guy, well, that's what I mean,

476
00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 4: just to compete with us.

477
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if they take Levis, then they don't think

478
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: that they then they're moving I mean that's what I

479
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 2: most of these guys, they're moving back the next day.

480
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 4: But you know, if they took him at fourteen and

481
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 4: Mike said, yeah, I remember it looked for mac to

482
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 4: get I.

483
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 2: Remember the NA they took Ryan Mallett and it was

484
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: like we couldn't pass on him. He was, you know,

485
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: overvalued for where he was available third round and we

486
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: took him. We took him, you know, like you can't

487
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: say that about you know, uh Levis. Oh, you know,

488
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: we had to take him. We didn't think he would drop.

489
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: There's no way so I can make that argument.

490
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what to make of it, you know,

491
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 4: the fact that they have him, they have them in

492
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: and I don't have all the details in this because

493
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 4: I was away last week, but I just would be

494
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: curious to get the thoughts of you guys, because I

495
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 4: saw a lot of people sort of blowing it off

496
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 4: like there's nothing. You know, they're just doing the due diligence,

497
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 4: and you know, whether it's and I know there was

498
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: some ambiguity of whether or not it actually counted this

499
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: to one of the thirty picks because he's quasi local.

500
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 4: He was one in Newton and went to high school

501
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 4: in Connecticut. I don't know, does that not count on

502
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: one of.

503
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 5: The twenty five miles? Okay, so if he's in Connecticut,

504
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 5: it counts. If he's in Newton, it doesn't.

505
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 4: Right, So I don't know if that if that counts

506
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: as whatever. But I just don't think that teams go

507
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: through a visit at their facility for someone that they're

508
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: just looking to see what make what makes that Will

509
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 4: Levis tick, which I read a lot of agree like

510
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 4: someone someone may have someone that they are going to play,

511
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: might be drafting him and they will yep, So that's

512
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 4: a waste of time, that's what you did it for.

513
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 4: I don't buy that. But Bill is way too smart

514
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 4: for that. I don't. I think that there is at

515
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: the very least some intrigue for maybe this style of

516
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 4: quarterback and he wants to pick a brain at the

517
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 4: very like, it's not about well, I don't know, we're

518
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 4: going to play Indianapolis and Indianapolis might take him, so

519
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 4: we need to No way they did that, No, like

520
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 4: you think that's where it Fred.

521
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's worth it, but I wouldn't rule

522
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: it out that they would do that.

523
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's I mean, I think way more

524
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: of Bill, and I'm not being sarcastic in any way.

525
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: I think way more of Bill with those thirty visits

526
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: that he's limited to to not waste one on someone else.

527
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: That they always use all thirty. I don't even know

528
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: that if that's true, I'm pretty sure because it doesn't

529
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: include pro days, it doesn't include you going to their visits.

530
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: I understand there's a reason they limit you to thirty.

531
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm not even sure that they used

532
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: all thirty this year. So maybe they had like five

533
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: in the you know, in their hand. I'm like, you

534
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: know what, let's just that I'm smart to you what

535
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: that they didn't use every one of them.

536
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, but in other words, you didn't do all the

537
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 4: work that you could do.

538
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: But that doesn't say that they didn't go to those places.

539
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: They didn't see these people they want to see at

540
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: their pro days.

541
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: They didn't have thirty people they felt strongly enough to

542
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: bring to the facility.

543
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: If you feel struggle, why you can just as easily

544
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: go to their place and see him at his pro day.

545
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: Or than one on one.

546
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: They do both, Fred, they can do both.

547
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 5: And there's a certain receiver that's at Fenway Park a

548
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 5: few weeks ago, and they decided not to bring in Fervius.

549
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: I look at them as being as diligent as anybody.

550
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe I'm still naive with this. I go

551
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 4: back to I think he's a very very good draft. Remember,

552
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 4: you know, I still get made fun of for that.

553
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: It's weird for me to be on that side of

554
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 4: the ledger. I know people are probably saying, what is

555
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 4: he talking about? Why is he arguing for the sake

556
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: of arguing. I'm not. I just think that they're as

557
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 4: prepared as any organization. Yeah, they do more work than

558
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: most most he was.

559
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: The guy that they canceled his trip here. They ended

560
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: up takings they sold her. You know, I think it

561
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: works both ways. Is the There's many ways to see

562
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: a guy other than bringing him here. You can go

563
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: to his proda.

564
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: I understand that, Fred, but I don't think that you

565
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: bring a guy here that you have zero interest in.

566
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when you say interest in taking, you know,

567
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: that could be that, or like, you know, maybe they're

568
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: just doing their due diligence in just seeing, you know,

569
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: who this guy is in the event that no one

570
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: wants him and he's available in the second round. You know,

571
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they're hearing that no one's going

572
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: to take will Levis and if he's in the second round,

573
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: we're going to take him, and so we want to be.

574
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 4: Just there, right, I agree, Oh yeah, we're all on

575
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: the same page. Yeah.

576
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 5: I don't have any inside information on it, but I

577
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 5: just felt like from a football perspective, it's a lot

578
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 5: better of a fit than people realize. Like just from

579
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 5: a schematic x's and o's perspective of how what he's

580
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 5: good at. I think he gets labeled as like a

581
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 5: Josh Allen out of structure, this guy that's just going

582
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: to roll out and throw bombs down the field. He

583
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 5: was much better at Kentucky in the film that I

584
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 5: watched of him in structure, operating out of the quick

585
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 5: game or from under center, play action and just doing

586
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: stuff that the Patriots like to do.

587
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's not the most accurate passer

588
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: right now. He's got some mechanic problems from what I read,

589
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: you know, that whole thing. He's just not ready yet.

590
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: But you know, for a team that's willing to put

591
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: in the time, you know he could be. He could

592
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: have a high ceiling. But from what every I'm being

593
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: told by the experts, he ain't gonna be your year

594
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: one answer. You know it's gonna take time.

595
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, we'll see, though.

596
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: I just I think with him again, I just think

597
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 5: that he gets miscast because of the athletic ability and

598
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 5: the arm talent that he's like another Josh Allen. But

599
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: I don't think that he plays like Josh Allen. I

600
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 5: think he plays much more like an in rhythm quarterback

601
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 5: and somebody that really thrives from the pocket. When he

602
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 5: gets outside the pocket is when he makes mistakes.

603
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: I would agree with that. And I think I wrote

604
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 4: here decision making with a question mark when I was

605
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: just looking at the notes that I took. I agree

606
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: with that assessment totally. Is it's not necessarily that he

607
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: can't make plays. Like I think a lot of people say, like, well,

608
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: is he smart enough? Does he do the proper? I mean,

609
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: I think there's signs of inconsistency. I think the decision

610
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: making sometimes leads to his interceptions.

611
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: Beyond what the message it sends to Mac or what

612
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: they think of Mac. If if they drafted this guy

613
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: in the first round, what are they saying about this season?

614
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 7: I mean I would just look at and kind of

615
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 7: into what I said that we realized that we're a

616
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 7: ways off and we can afford to maybe take a

617
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 7: year where instead of just trying to get those eight

618
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 7: nine wins and sneak into the playoffs, we might only

619
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 7: win five or four or five games this year, but

620
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 7: we're gonna throw a quarterback in there that we're hoping

621
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 7: is going to be able to then elevate to the

622
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 7: next level, and we don't believe that Max is gonna

623
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 7: get us there.

624
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: I think that that would be what I read.

625
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: It certainly would put the bed the whole notion of well,

626
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: all Bill wants to do is break Shooles record. All

627
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: he wants to do, you know, because this is a

628
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: long term pick, right, I mean, it's a pick for

629
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: the future.

630
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 7: I mean, I think, in to Evans's point earlier, it's

631
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 7: you know, it's not what we're expecting, but it's trying

632
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 7: to get one of those elite players.

633
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 4: You know. I don't think if I draft Levis I

634
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 4: want him playing by the end of September.

635
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: He might be, but like, how good is he going

636
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: to be? You know, he's going to have Like.

637
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 4: I'm with Mike, let him, let him, let him make

638
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: the mistakes. I mean.

639
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: To I keep going back to Peyton Manning, he had

640
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: more interceptions than touchdowns his first year, but they knew

641
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: he was great. Yeah, you just had to give him

642
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: time and if he needed it, certainly, this guy's gonna

643
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: need it.

644
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: He was also much better at Kentucky in twenty twenty

645
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: one than he was in twenty two, and they had

646
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: some better pieces around him.

647
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I did not Like.

648
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 5: We talked about Will Levis really early on, I think,

649
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: and I was like, I don't think so, because I

650
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 5: just sort of looked at the interceptions and things like that.

651
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: But when you actually really dig into it, I think

652
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 5: he's a little bit better than people realize. I really

653
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: feel like he's getting a lot of negativity from the

654
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: media side of it, especially because of the turnovers and

655
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 5: some of the decision making.

656
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Speaker 2: Is like, I know they're completely different quarterbacks, but I

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Speaker 2: pick him over Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: I would, oh, I would absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't do that, but because if you're gonna take

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Speaker 5: the ball of clay, I'm just gonna take the best

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Speaker 5: ball of clay at the table, right. But I think

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Speaker 5: with Levis just goes back to the whole thing with

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Speaker 5: Mac what's his ceiling. You know, from a physical perspective,

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Speaker 5: how good could he be throwing the ball down the field,

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Speaker 5: creating on his own and really as the the physical

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Speaker 5: things of being a quarterback, not the mental side of it,

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Speaker 5: because Mac blows will have us out of the water

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Speaker 5: when it comes to the mental side of.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you.

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Speaker 7: I was kind of imagining event diagram of like this

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Speaker 7: is Will Levis, this is Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: What do they have in common? And what does Will

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Speaker 3: Levis maybe have that Max never not going.

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Speaker 4: To have, you know, like it's that yeah, just rocket

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Speaker 4: arm size, power and running. I mean he's a power run.

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Speaker 2: I mean some people said he's Tim Tebow. He's not

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Speaker 2: Tim t He's Tim Tebow with the ability to throw right.

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Speaker 2: Tim Tebow couldn't throw. He literally could not throw.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's huge, yeah, I mean you could argue

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Speaker 4: that almost too big, like Brady Quinn. Remember Brady Quinn

681
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Speaker 4: got all bulked up and Megan Rember, Yes, Meghan did.

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Speaker 4: Remember we had to take we had to take stalk

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Speaker 4: our selfies at the Combine one year for Megan. But

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Speaker 4: you know, he's uh, I think he's a very intriguing

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Speaker 4: skill set I agree with you, though, Fred So I

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Speaker 4: disagree with Evan on the Anthony Richardson. To me, there's

687
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Speaker 4: way too much unknown. I understand the boom aspect of

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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson, but I think he hasn't really played any game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least you look at at Levis. He

690
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Speaker 4: played a little at Penn State, he played a ton

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Speaker 4: the last two years at Kentucky, And there's something like

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Speaker 4: I think that you can project to me with Richardson,

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Speaker 4: it's all projection, no doubt, no doubt. If he works.

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Speaker 4: If Levis works and Richardson works, Richardson will be the

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Speaker 4: better player he's got. He's got a better skill set.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's a much higher degree of chance

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Speaker 4: of Levis working than Richardson working.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it's all interesting, and I you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're not the ones that brought Will Levison, So people say,

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Speaker 2: why are you talking about Will Levis? You go to

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Speaker 2: t talk about the dragon. You know they brought them in, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, so you know we're probably gonna be talking about

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Speaker 4: this Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: Too, right, And the head coach won't say the quarterback's

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Speaker 5: name that you currently have on the roster.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 2: It's like now we're not, you know, picking them out

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Speaker 2: of the blue and discussing them. Speaking of Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: there's no regular show on Thursday, Pagrites Unfiltered, but we

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Speaker 2: will have our Draft special starting at seven thirty live everywhere,

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Speaker 2: live video from seven thirty eight thirty. Then we go

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Speaker 2: to audio per NFL rules, but we'll be live from

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Speaker 2: the draft party upstairs here at Let's Stadium, and it'll

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Speaker 2: be fun. I can't wait. I can't wait. Draft itself

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Speaker 2: starts at eight o'clock, so we'll be on air for that. Patriots,

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Speaker 2: if they stay at fourteen, will probably pick around nine

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Speaker 2: to forty five or so. But we'll be there. Let's

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Speaker 2: be there with the reaction.

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Speaker 3: All kinds of reactions. I'm excited.

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Speaker 7: So people are still chirping at me about my first

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Speaker 7: draft show, about my inadequacy in my contributions.

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Speaker 4: This back in the COVID.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, remember the show, Remember the COVID through everybody,

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Speaker 3: I might.

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Speaker 2: Have made funn of you during that show. It's like

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Speaker 2: still there.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that the day that Eric got really mad

728
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Speaker 4: about something random?

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Speaker 2: Which, what are you talking about? Every draft?

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Speaker 4: Kyle Douga. They tried down Kyle doug Oh yeah, he

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Speaker 4: way off of that show.

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Speaker 2: Remember, because he didn't know who Kyle Duggart.

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Speaker 4: That's no, no, no. When they traded down, we didn't

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Speaker 4: trade We didn't get Kyle dug until the next day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, nothing, it was it was a wash.

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Speaker 5: The Kyle Duggar pick was misunderstood.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't mad at but Kyle Duggar was made.

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Speaker 5: Kyle dugger always gets lumped into the cold stranges of

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Speaker 5: the world and it's like no, no, no, no, this is

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Speaker 5: that was a different animal.

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Speaker 7: They could have traded down and taken Lawrence Taylor and

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Speaker 7: Eric would have been pissed at the time.

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Speaker 5: Yes, some people just hate the trade down, that's exactly.

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Speaker 4: I just want to pick. It was one too many

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Speaker 4: trade downs, even though if you actually look at their

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Speaker 4: history and I know it's deceiving because they have virtually

747
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Speaker 4: the same amount of trade up trade down now, it

748
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Speaker 4: is definitely deceiving because the first round, the overwhelming evidence

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Speaker 4: is they generally trade down and the trade ups come

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Speaker 4: in like the fifth round, into the fourth round and

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Speaker 4: stuff like that, so it's not exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 4: But they have traded up in the first round before.

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Speaker 4: You know, with High Tower and Chandler Jones the gold

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Speaker 4: everybody has to bring him up. But I would like

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Speaker 4: to see at least the mindset, Freddy, where they're prepared

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Speaker 4: to do it if a guy that they really really

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Speaker 4: cover it starts to slip. You know, we talk about

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Speaker 4: all these quarterbacks and when I was I was joking

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Speaker 4: with these guys when we did the podcast. You know,

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Speaker 4: evidently when I was going, Hendon Hooker is now a

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Speaker 4: first round pick two. Oh really, so like if you

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Speaker 4: somehow get fired, he's not into hookers. If you get

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Speaker 4: five guys before pick fourteen and very very minor and

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Speaker 4: not a sure thing. But that swap with the Jets

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Speaker 4: and the Packers, I think the Jets were really in

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Speaker 4: play for a tackle and now they're behind the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: So the Patriots will have a pick over the Jets

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Speaker 4: at a position that I think they both need. If

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Speaker 4: that sort of starts to happen, and maybe you get

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Speaker 4: a guy and the guy that we all love is

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Speaker 4: Christian Gonzales. But if that happens, I think they need

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Speaker 4: to be prepared to move up. And I just hope

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Speaker 4: it's not one of these things. Well, there's only seven

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Speaker 4: first round values in this draft. So we're going to

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Speaker 4: trade down, get one trade up, and try to get

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Speaker 4: one of the seven.

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Speaker 5: That's what you need, especially because their board is typically

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Speaker 5: different than everybody else's, so the odds of there if

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Speaker 5: they say there we only have eight first round grades

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Speaker 5: in this draft, because a lot of teams are saying

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Speaker 5: they have under fifteen. And if the Patriots board is

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Speaker 5: tiny compared to everybody else every year, so they got

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Speaker 5: to have If the Bills have fourteen first round grades,

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Speaker 5: the half the Patriots got six, right, but they're six

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Speaker 5: might be different than everybody else's, so maybe one of

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Speaker 5: their they could drop right, one of their guys could

787
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Speaker 5: definitely fall.

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Speaker 4: But then if it's attack, like if Broderick Jones is

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Speaker 4: one of their first round picks, and you know you

790
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: get to like ten, eleven, twelve, you know, find a

791
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Speaker 4: way to make sure you get them.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right. Eight five to five past five hundred

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Speaker 2: is the ACE Ticket Hotline web radio at Patriots dot

794
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Speaker 2: COM's the email address. Phone calls, emails are flying in,

795
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Speaker 2: so let's get to our listeners. We'll start with Patty

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Speaker 2: and Agawam. What's up Patty?

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 10: Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: It's exciting.

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Speaker 10: I'm excited for this week.

802
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Speaker 4: I did a little research myself.

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Speaker 10: Today and the two most prevalent groups that Belichick has

804
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Speaker 10: drafted since since he's been the head coach and GM

805
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Speaker 10: there's been defensive line. He's taken six guys and he's

806
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Speaker 10: taken four offensive linemen, which it feel like the follow trends,

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Speaker 10: which I think you know more often than not, He's

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Speaker 10: going to pick one of those two guys in the

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Speaker 10: trenches and I'm gonna throw a wild Evan. I don't

810
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Speaker 10: know if you remember when I called in I first

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Speaker 10: started throwing draft draft picks at you guys and catch

812
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Speaker 10: twenty two. But I wouldn't be surprised if they trade

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Speaker 10: down and take Mazzie Smith in the first round. I

814
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 10: know that sounds a little crazy, but it's a little

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Speaker 10: bit outside the box. I mean, he's from a program

816
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Speaker 10: he loves draft and from and to me, he just

817
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Speaker 10: I mean he's not he's not the most dominant interior

818
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Speaker 10: defensive lineman in the draft, but to me, he just

819
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Speaker 10: he just screamed the Patriots pick. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 10: I know, uh, you know, I'm I'm on the big

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Speaker 10: I'm on the day Flowers train. I don't think we're

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Speaker 10: gonna draft them, so I'll be a little bit disappointed.

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Speaker 10: But if a team like Casey or Buffalo takes day Flowers,

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Speaker 10: I mean, if Casey takes Dave Flowers, they're winning the

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Speaker 10: Super Bowl again this year. I hate to tell everyone,

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Speaker 10: but that's how I see it. Can't wait to call

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Speaker 10: in on Thursday night and talk to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Then, all right, thanks Patty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they take Massie Smith and I will not be happy.

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Speaker 2: But you could see Bill doing that.

831
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Speaker 4: And run stuffing those tackles.

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Speaker 5: But I think that's.

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Speaker 4: One of the few positions that I think fans would

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Speaker 4: be right to be critical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to shutters in Manchester. What's up shutters?

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Speaker 3: Hey you Oh, thanks for buying lunch by the way,

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Speaker 3: Thank you hutters, and happy birthday.

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Speaker 9: That's my pleasure. Well, well, thank you all. Thanks to

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Speaker 9: you all and Quare for the birthday shout out last

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Speaker 9: week and on the back of his corners. Then I

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Speaker 9: can't wait to hear how they had he gets on

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Speaker 9: Thursday night for the draft show. Okay, the question I

843
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 9: got today I was listening earlier on to Skaranakia speaking

844
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Speaker 9: on the Boom podcast about the Patriot Way, and he

845
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 9: was saying, how sort of five percent of the roster

846
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 9: want to run through a wall for you, five percent

847
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Speaker 9: question why you need to run through the wall at all,

848
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Speaker 9: and ninety are in the middle waiting to be influenced.

849
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Speaker 9: Seems from last year that there was more questioning about

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Speaker 9: why they're running through the wall than maybe the Patriots Way.

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Speaker 9: Leadership and certainly now, I mean, Hotel isn't so much

852
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Speaker 9: involved last year, but you lost Hoteler, you lost Becauthy,

853
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 9: you can't Slater and Andrews is there as well. But

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Speaker 9: who on the roster is strong leadership and step up

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Speaker 9: the read I'm asking for this is one boot who's

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Speaker 9: dy existing that can do that? But is strong leadership

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Speaker 9: a sneaky key aspect to be looking at in this

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Speaker 9: draft class. Now, my personal draft crush who I don't

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Speaker 9: think the Patriots are signed is Jack Campbell. But it's

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Speaker 9: that sort of hard hitting old Bruce d They don't

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Speaker 9: really need him, They're not going to get him, I

862
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 9: know that, but he's that leader style. Could leadership being

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Speaker 9: to have an impact on who they're looking to draft

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Speaker 9: this year?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know they've you know, they've always said they

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Speaker 2: like drafting captains just for that reason. But the lead

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Speaker 2: there's not be any rookie that's going to come in

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Speaker 2: and be a leader this year. I mean, they could

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Speaker 2: draft somebody who they hope to be a leader going

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Speaker 2: down the road. But if you're looking for leadership this year,

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Speaker 2: it's going to come from people that are already here.

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Speaker 2: And I throw Judah On in there in addition to

873
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: the names you already said. I think you know he

874
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: should be a leader on this team, you know, so

875
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: I would throw him in there. Uh, Dietrich Wise in

876
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: his own way, you know, is a leader. Bentley here's

877
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: a captain, right, Yeah, Bentley you would imagine should be

878
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: as well. But you know you're talking. You know, mccordy

879
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: was one of the best all time, and we had

880
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: such such great ones in the past.

881
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: So I think the key in what Shutters is talking about.

882
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: It's obviously an old adage for coaches. You know, you

883
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: got you know, the ten percent on either side that

884
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 4: you know what they're going to do. It's what the

885
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: rest of them do. And I can't help but think

886
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: last year, you know the leader of the why are

887
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: we doing that? Was Mac Jones. Was your quarterback, and

888
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: that causes and I'm not saying this is a negative

889
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 4: to Mac Jones, by the way, before it gets misconstrued.

890
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: I understand why he had questions about what they were doing.

891
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: We all did. We all had the same question, right, right, So,

892
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 4: but when the quarterback wants to know why we're doing

893
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: it that way, and there's been reports out of Alabama

894
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: that he was a y guy at Alabama used to

895
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: ruffle Nick Saban's skin a little bit, well, then that's why,

896
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: you know, when it ultimately unfolds, Jacoby Myers is a

897
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: why guy, and Kendrick Bourne is a why guy, and

898
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 4: David Andrews was a why guy, and Hudter Henry was

899
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 4: a why guy. Because the quarterback is asking why and

900
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: they don't understand why they're doing it. So they need

901
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: to find a way to get Mac Jones from a

902
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: y guy to a run through the.

903
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Wall guy right, a circle the wagon.

904
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: And if you don't do that, I mean sure, all

905
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: the guys you mentioned I think are good leaders. It

906
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 4: won't matter if the quarterback's not on b Yeah, I

907
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: mean they got to fix that relationship.

908
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: Parcels called him his circle the wagon guys. These are

909
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: the guys that run through the wall. These are the

910
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: guys that carry your message to the rest of them.

911
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 4: And when did those Giants teams get over the hump?

912
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: When Phil Simms got on board. Yeah, there was a

913
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: lot of back and forth with Parcels and Simms early

914
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: in Simms' career wasn't the greatest quarterback. But once he

915
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: got on board and Parcels embraced him, yep, that's when

916
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: the Giants got to a different level. Lawrence Taylor, I know,

917
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: don't get in the way of a good story trying

918
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: to be positive today, but.

919
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: I remember when they drafted Mac people said, is he

920
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: going to be a captain? We said, probably not this year,

921
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: but if he's not the captain in the second year,

922
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: that's a problem. And sure enough they made him a captain,

923
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: which you know you want your quarterback to be. He'd

924
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: better be the captain of your team. But like Paul said,

925
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: you know, when your captain is questioning that trickles down.

926
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: You can't have that interesting way to look at He

927
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: can do it, but he's got to do it privately,

928
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: you know.

929
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, uh, I would just.

930
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 7: Use this opportunity to give a small bit of credit

931
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 7: to col strange because I feel like he's one of

932
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 7: those run through the wall guys. He's not gonna ask why,

933
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 7: He's just gonna go.

934
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: And I think that's part of the big reason why

935
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: they liked him.

936
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: People lead by example.

937
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's willing to go through it.

938
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 7: But but I mean when he was saying that, I'm

939
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: just picturing Trent Brown and Isaiah win not not being

940
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 7: why guys just being like yeah, nope, yeah.

941
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

942
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: Worse than not not not why guys they they were

943
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 4: indifferent not today.

944
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: I just think that at the end of the day though,

945
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: like if if the team's winning and the players on

946
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: the team are good, and I think all this leadership

947
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 5: stuff is.

948
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 7: And that's that's that bigger point that I brought up

949
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 7: last week, which is like so many of these issues

950
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 7: that we talk about are because they haven't been a

951
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 7: good football team for a few years.

952
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: Like these things are snowballing. There are questions, you know

953
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: of teams that are really good that had bad chemistry.

954
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: There aren't many. Yeah, chemistry is a product of winning.

955
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: I agree.

956
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: Eddie's in Florida. What's up, Eddie?

957
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 11: Hey, So I like your opinion on my top of

958
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 11: the draft position wish list. But before that, can I

959
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 11: go through a lightning round with Paul on names and numbers.

960
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 11: It'll be really quick, Okay, challenge old Patriots?

961
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: Ready for numbers? You're giving me numbers?

962
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 12: Yep, given the numbers, Go ahead. Chrity Lade fifty three,

963
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 12: Vincent Brisbee eighty two, Great Clayborn twenty six, Don Calhoun

964
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 12: forty four, Pete Brock fifty eight.

965
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 11: Matt Cavanaugh twelve three. Left Ron movemin.

966
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: This is a guest, but I'm going to go sixty one, correct,

967
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: Horace Horace I twenty three?

968
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: Wow, get it out? Is this a setup? Did you

969
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: guys plan this? That's pretty good?

970
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: Wait? Where's the last one?

971
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: Horace? Ivory shout? Oh?

972
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: Rod showed was fifty six.

973
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 11: Wow, before Rod the great tippet.

974
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 13: Did you get out there?

975
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Wow?

976
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: Jaron Veris was well, that's a trick question. I believe

977
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: he was sixty and ninety.

978
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 11: You're correct he was ninety first.

979
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm hit really hard.

980
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: That is like, yeah, that's amazing.

981
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: Just so you knowing, don't ask me what number the

982
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: round last year?

983
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: That's when you were paying attention, right, sixty that's something

984
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: that is something all right, So your draft position.

985
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 11: Okay, so with three picks, no particular order. Cornerback, tackle, wide, receiver,

986
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 11: pretty much universal, round four, tight end, center, if not center,

987
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 11: front seven.

988
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: What do you guys think draft good football players?

989
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really, it could be as long as they're you.

990
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I mean I like the idea there. I

991
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 4: would probably put edge a little higher than you know,

992
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: maybe the edge in the top three, but I like

993
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 4: I like it center.

994
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: So center, you're replacing David.

995
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 4: I think this is an interesting seventh round. Yeah, and

996
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: I took one in that.

997
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: I took for sight in the sixth round in my mock.

998
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: I think you gotta you gotta get ready for that.

999
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: I know nobody cares, but I heard this is a

1000
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: good draft for centers.

1001
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 5: It is a good draft, right, It is a good

1002
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: draft for centers. But a lot of the good centers

1003
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: are going to go in like the top one twenty five,

1004
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: and I have no interest in doing.

1005
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: One in the first round.

1006
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: The yeah, the first round, Schmid's Schmidt.

1007
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: I saw one guy, he's a zone block. One guy

1008
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: had like a center at twenty five. I can't no,

1009
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: I don't think it was you know me, do it

1010
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: on your own time. So I can't remember the name.

1011
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: Tim, Thanks Eddie.

1012
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 4: Who's the third? That might have been the one?

1013
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: There's there's three centers. They came from Ohio state Wipler, No,

1014
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 5: what was the other name?

1015
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: You said?

1016
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 5: The middle wits tipman from a Wisconsin.

1017
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 4: Tipman was the one I saw.

1018
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: He's an interesting I like Wisconsin lineman.

1019
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: That's what that is.

1020
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: They keep turning them out.

1021
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: That is a good point.

1022
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Freddy Dylan's in North Carolina. I hate Dylan Dylan.

1023
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 14: Hey, how are you guys doing all right? I remember

1024
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 14: listening to the show like a couple months ago, and

1025
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 14: then Evan was talking crap about my boy Will Levis

1026
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 14: Kentucky fans. He was awesome in twenty twenty one or

1027
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, and then last year, you know, we

1028
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 14: lost a lot of people. But if he drops to fourteen,

1029
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 14: would you guys be willing to take him or is

1030
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 14: that like completely off the ball.

1031
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't, but I could be convinced. But right now

1032
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: I say no.

1033
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: And by you could be convinced, you mean that the

1034
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: Patriots the patriots to be convinced.

1035
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I would much have to

1036
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 14: take a cornerback because I think that's a way bigger need.

1037
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 14: But I mean Max John's can't throw it nowhere near

1038
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 14: as far as him. And if he just gets his footwork,

1039
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 14: like Evan was saying, I think he could be a stud.

1040
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I I mean I would be on board. And

1041
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: you watched all their games, Dylan, most of them?

1042
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my favorite.

1043
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: Most I forget.

1044
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 5: Like the guy with Henny Luker last year. I watched

1045
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 5: every game he played at tennis. Okay, do I do

1046
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: you know what you're watching?

1047
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: Not you? Not you, Dylan hended hooker guy.

1048
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: Okay, well listen, if they if they wherever they draft,

1049
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: whoever drafts, when we want you to call back and

1050
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: give us your reaction.

1051
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 4: All right, we'll do all right, thanks, Dylan. I'm gonna

1052
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: surprise you and say I wouldn't like it. I think

1053
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: that Mac. I think there's still some unknown.

1054
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't like it. I just think it's forget

1055
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty three.

1056
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: If you do, they're hitting the reset button.

1057
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't necessarily look at it that way,

1058
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: but I think that Mac Jones deserves to see it through.

1059
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: I do too. I think he deserves.

1060
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: Because of this situation last year.

1061
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: I think he deserves to see give him this year anyway,

1062
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Just give him this year.

1063
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 7: But I will say probably how I feel is that

1064
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 7: Max not the guy?

1065
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: You know?

1066
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: That's I mean, like I guess he.

1067
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: Deserves how probably how definitively get that chance with a

1068
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: third year, you know, with a proper system in place.

1069
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: And but if he plays well this year, you'll be happy,

1070
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure, but I'll be a little surprised.

1071
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 7: I'm not expecting him to. I just I just don't

1072
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 7: want to look back at twenty twenty three and said, man,

1073
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 7: we had fourteenth overall pick. We had a chance to

1074
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 7: just you know, make the move and kind of bite

1075
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 7: the bullet.

1076
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: And that's take a risk, you know.

1077
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: That's absolutely If Mac doesn't progress this year and will

1078
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: Levis does well wherever he goes, and he.

1079
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 4: Was somebody that was available at fourteen.

1080
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Then yes, that'll be in play.

1081
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: I kind of look at it.

1082
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: All of Paul's shows will be talking dangerous.

1083
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: You know what's funny about that. I was thinking about

1084
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 4: this friend. I have not heard any of my shows

1085
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: in like ten days, so I'm gonna need you to

1086
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: you know.

1087
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't get the shakes.

1088
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna need you to tell me what the

1089
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: shows have been saying so I can go and find

1090
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: out if that was what actually happened. But anyway, the

1091
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 4: whole dangerous to like look ahead at the next class thing, like,

1092
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: so let's say you stick with mac Jones, like and

1093
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't work. If that happens, mac Jones didn't work,

1094
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 4: and you're looking to move on, you're probably picking higher

1095
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 4: than fourteen next year, and does that put you in

1096
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 4: play to maybe get somebody? So whereas I'm listening, maybe

1097
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: you're not necessarily kicking yourself because you let Will Levis

1098
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 4: go because yeah, okay, I mean I I rolled the dice.

1099
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 4: It didn't work, but I can get Drake May for somebody.

1100
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

1101
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's Barth's take on this whole thing,

1102
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 5: because he looks seventeen drafts into the future.

1103
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: I'm not even enough to speak elementary school circuit. Yeah,

1104
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: so I'm not alone the twenty four.

1105
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: He's telling me that Will Levis next year would be

1106
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 5: like QB six or seven, and it's ridiculous. And even

1107
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 5: consider this, YadA YadA, YadA. I don't like playing that

1108
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 5: game because you just don't know what those guys are

1109
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: going to be a year from now, and you don't

1110
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: know what other guys might come out. I mean, Joe

1111
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: Burrow was not even in the conversation, and he had

1112
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: the season he had at LSU and he's the number

1113
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 5: one pick in the draft. So you just don't know

1114
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: a year out. But I do think that there is

1115
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 5: a school of thought to that is that next year,

1116
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: if you really need to jump back in the quarterback carousel, again,

1117
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: it's a good quarterback class and there's gonna be some

1118
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 5: options that might be equal or even better than somebody

1119
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: like Will Levis. Personally, I would not take Will Levis

1120
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 5: and I'd roll with Mac. But if the head coach

1121
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: doesn't gonna get over it, then I take Will Levis.

1122
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: Like if he's not gonna move on and he's not

1123
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 5: gonna reset and he's not gonna get over last year

1124
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 5: and all the issues that they had that are more

1125
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: to me outside the lines, like not even about football,

1126
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 5: then I don't really know why we're wasting our time

1127
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 5: with Mac in the building. It just seems like we're

1128
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 5: on a road to nowhere.

1129
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Eldred in North Carolina. What's up,

1130
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: Eldrid Goodson, Aldred.

1131
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 15: Will tell you all right? Taylor Party Podcast. Hey, you

1132
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 15: know what, it's amazing. The other night I listened to

1133
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 15: NFL Network.

1134
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: What is it?

1135
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 15: A Texan? I ain't thinking about taking a quarterback? But

1136
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 15: it's still traded for either Meg Jones or three Lance.

1137
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: They can't all right, Well, you know you're breaking up

1138
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: a little, Eldre. You're breaking up breaking Yeah.

1139
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: I think the Texans are an intriguing.

1140
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll talk about what you just said.

1141
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: Because there's been uncertainty. You Fred, at the beginning of

1142
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: the show, you brought up the c J. Stroud thing

1143
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 4: with that aptitude test, But there's been uncertainty about what

1144
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: the Texans want to do with that second pick. Do

1145
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: they want to take another quarterback and sort of go

1146
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 4: They're in a situation very similar to the Patriots. They

1147
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: have a guy that can play, as Bill famously says,

1148
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: can play in the league, but where's he going to

1149
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 4: take you? In Davis Mills. I think they're very similar

1150
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: guys based on their first two seasons. So do they

1151
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: ride it out with Davis Mills and continue to try

1152
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: to prop up the rest of that roster, or do

1153
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: they take CJ. Stroud. You know, I think there's a

1154
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: lot of different things that they can do. I just

1155
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: don't necessarily think the test itself is that I think

1156
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: there's a lot of uncertainty in Houston as to what

1157
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 4: they want to do, and maybe this is the final

1158
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: nail in Stroud's coffin for them and they move on.

1159
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: I think Indy has to take a quarterback. They're at four. Yeah,

1160
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 4: I think Indy has to take one. Whether it's Levis, Richardson,

1161
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: or Stroud, you know, whoever's available. They have to take

1162
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 4: one of those guys.

1163
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: It seems like the big media thinks that the Colts

1164
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 5: want Levis and the local media thinks they want Richardson.

1165
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 5: So I don't know which way that's gonna go. But

1166
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 5: the Texans, to me, I think what's so fascinating about

1167
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: the Texans is that they might pass on two consensus

1168
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: players because they might pass on Stroud and Will Anderson

1169
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 5: to draft Tyree Wilson. And now Nickosario is out on

1170
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 5: an island all by himself. If he does that, and

1171
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: if that pick doesn't work out, that's his job. I mean,

1172
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: he's not going to keep his job. Through that because

1173
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: he's already taken Derek Stingley over Sasce Gardner and Kenyan

1174
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 5: Green over Tyler Smith last year. So that's taking Tyree

1175
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 5: Wilson with a second overall pick. It goes against every

1176
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 5: single consensus on this draft that you can see how I.

1177
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: Forgot that, like Stingley went before Gardener. Yeah, that is

1178
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: that's a tough one to overcome.

1179
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 7: Do you think and I don't mean this to be

1180
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 7: a reflection on the Patriots terrible drafts, but do you

1181
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 7: think think Casaro just can't draft.

1182
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: Like I don't know could be? I mean, although I

1183
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 4: do think I kind of like Stingley as a player,

1184
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 4: but he's not sas God and he wasn't saus God,

1185
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: and coming out its unquestionable A lot I think that

1186
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: he There was a lot of questions about Stingley with

1187
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: the injuries, and.

1188
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he prioritizes a lot like he's obviously

1189
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 5: cut from the same cloth as Bill. I think that

1190
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 5: he they prioritize a lot of traits that fit our

1191
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: system and like getting it into the right you know,

1192
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 5: the right molds and the right uh you know, body

1193
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 5: types and things like that, and a guy like Tyrie

1194
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: Wilson from everything that you hear about Tamika Ryan's Ryan's

1195
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 5: loves length, he loves power, he loves good defensive linemen,

1196
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 5: obviously what they built out in San Francisco. So Tyre

1197
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: Wilson has been the hot pick for Houston, even though

1198
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: every single draft expert and probably ninety percent of the

1199
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 5: league thinks that Will Anderson's a better player, and that

1200
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: that's I think sometimes you get caught up in that

1201
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 5: if you're a GM like Casario, where it's like, maybe

1202
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 5: just take the best player and not get not overthinking

1203
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 5: about the scheme and about all that kind of stuff.

1204
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 4: And if everyone is right, and that's what Casario thinks

1205
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 4: going into drafts is I'm looking for guys that fit

1206
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: my you know, my box. Well, it can't help that

1207
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: he's had a carousel of coaches. Yeah, right, during his

1208
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 4: time there, they've had what three coaches?

1209
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: Yep, it's weird. Dylan writes in from Nashville. He says,

1210
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: during the silly season, what Patriots reporter should we take? Seriously,

1211
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: won't ask you which ones we shouldn't, but would like

1212
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: you view on the folks you can generally trust. It's

1213
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: a good question.

1214
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: I think this time of year, I think it's an

1215
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: excellent question, but I think it's it's also a latered one,

1216
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 4: Like I need to know exactly what you're you're asking

1217
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 4: to trust with. Like if someone has a trade rumor

1218
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: on the draft, I would trust Mike Reese, I would

1219
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: trust Albert Breer, you know, talking about the Patriots. If

1220
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: you're talking to I mean this is you know, present

1221
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,959
Speaker 4: company excluded. Okay, I'm not talking about we're not looking

1222
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: to break news. We're just giving you evaluations of the players.

1223
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: But if you're talking about draft stuff, like I think

1224
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: Phil Perry does a lot of a lot of homework

1225
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 4: on on on players and and I think personally puts

1226
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: a little too much stock in the in sort of

1227
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 4: the skill set box to the patriot, like the prototypical

1228
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 4: Patriot thing. But and there are others. I mean, I

1229
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 4: think Tom Curran is another guy with like news related

1230
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: stuff that I would I would take seriously. But the

1231
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 4: bottom line, when you're talking about the draft specifically, nobody, nobody,

1232
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: nobody knows. I mean, I think people get them right

1233
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: all the time. And we've gotten the first round pick

1234
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 4: right about a half dozen times. Like I got ty

1235
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 4: Warren brand In, Merriweather Chandler Jones. I also thought Vernon

1236
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: Golston was going to be one of the best players ever,

1237
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 4: you know, and he was Jets like our catastrophic bust.

1238
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 4: You know. I also liked Aaron Mabon way back once

1239
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: upon a time. So I'll tell you the ones that

1240
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: that I miss on just as many times as i'll

1241
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: tell you the guys that I hit on. But we've

1242
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: been able to identify the guy the Patriots are going

1243
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: to take a couple of times more often than not.

1244
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: We're all it's just guessing. It's hard to know exactly

1245
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: what teams want to do.

1246
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: Andre New Jersey. We finally made it to Happy Draft Week.

1247
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: Two things. One conduced not call out the names of

1248
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: players before I hear them get picked to go to

1249
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

1250
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: Eric's not here.

1251
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: That goes to Evan as well. Please stay off Twitter.

1252
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't promise that we're not staying off Twitter.

1253
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 8: Well.

1254
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: Eric famously loved to tip picks. He didn't, you know,

1255
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: he didn't care, he had disdained he got anyone who

1256
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, wanted to you know, not be uh not

1257
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: to spoil it. So he loves spoiling it.

1258
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry. I I'm with Eric on this one.

1259
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: So you're gonna just tip picks.

1260
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: If you tell me not to, I won't, but I'm

1261
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 5: not going to not do it because the.

1262
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: People get it.

1263
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 3: Was hard.

1264
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 7: It was hard last year when the cold, strange pick

1265
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 7: came across across Slack and ye, and I think I

1266
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 7: was the only one of the group that I was

1267
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 7: like looking to make eyes with somebody because I didn't

1268
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 7: want to say anything.

1269
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: But you just know, here comes a tidal wave.

1270
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: And it's on Twitter, like you know, when you get it,

1271
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 4: and it's hard to just not say what the pick is.

1272
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 4: And and you know, well, I don't know, they could

1273
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 4: go they could go d line here or linebacker and

1274
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: you already know what the picks, right, you know, which

1275
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 4: kind of annoys me with the broadcast, right, you know,

1276
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 4: they kind of know what's coming. Mayock was the terrible

1277
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: poker face. Mike Mayock. You could absolutely tell that he

1278
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: knew the pick when he was you know, Evan's arm

1279
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: makes a lot of sense here, you know, at fifteen

1280
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: for the race, like, you know what the pick is, Mike,

1281
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 4: That'll be me second, pretending second, No big deal.

1282
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: On just going to the Jets. They will win eight

1283
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: games at max and it will always be the same

1284
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: old Jets, so f them and their fan base. Well,

1285
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good on the last part. But I

1286
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: think it's a big deal.

1287
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 4: Well, it's a deal. I would just ask, I don't

1288
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: care how many games the Jets win, do they beat you?

1289
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1290
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: Like those are two games, two of the games against Yes,

1291
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: those are two games I pencil in as w's every year.

1292
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: Can I no longer do that? The cause that, to

1293
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 4: me is the question because then you got to start saying, okay,

1294
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 4: so you got to go from eight to ten to

1295
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: get in the playoffs, right, ten wins should get you

1296
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: in the playoffs with three wild cards. So how do

1297
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: you get from eight to ten while losing two gimmes?

1298
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: And it's just so much more the math problem, right,

1299
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: It's just.

1300
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 7: It's more than Rogers to me, it's I mean, he's

1301
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 7: that last piece that they need. But it's just as

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Speaker 7: much about Breist Hall and Garrett Wilson and Sauce Garden

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Speaker 7: and all those pieces.

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Speaker 4: You could argue the game in Foxborough featured as bad

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Speaker 4: a quarterback play as you could get for the Jets,

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Speaker 4: and you wanted to eighty nine yard part returns time

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Speaker 4: expired ten to three.

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Speaker 2: Right, you couldn't score either.

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Speaker 5: I think the bottom line is they have a better

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Speaker 5: roster than you take Aaron rodgerst like out of the team.

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Speaker 5: They have a better roster than you do, and now

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Speaker 5: they have a serviceable to maybe even elite quarterback under center.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how you can't see that.

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Speaker 4: Like the show, Evan said, if Aaron Rodgers played quarterback

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Speaker 4: in the two games last year, they probably would have

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Speaker 4: won them. Right, what do you think would have happened

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Speaker 4: if Mike White played those same two games? I think

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Speaker 4: Mike White's think want them, but he might not have thrown,

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Speaker 4: you know, five picks or whatever. You know what.

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Speaker 7: Wilson God, I lost track of him game. They all

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Speaker 7: of them blend together for me.

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Speaker 3: These four games are I think it's four, he's played

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Speaker 3: maybe three.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a break. Paul's food is

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Speaker 2: here among others and thank you, So we'll do that

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Speaker 2: and then we'll come back. Lots of emails coming in.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to those right after this.

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Speaker 19: Brooks Koepka, and Alex Morgan. They don't spend all their

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Speaker 13: when they can be great. But it takes a big

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Speaker 13: step to get there. In fact, it takes a leap

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Speaker 13: of faith, a belief in what you're striving toward, and

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Speaker 13: a willingness to make the commitment day in and day

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Speaker 13: partner with those who share their own commitment to performance excellence.

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Speaker 20: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1372
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Speaker 20: better place to get in on all of the action

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Speaker 20: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

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Speaker 20: the New England Patriots. To add to the thrill, DraftKings

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Speaker 20: has millions of dollars in prizes up for grabs every week,

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Speaker 20: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

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Speaker 20: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

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Speaker 20: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so

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Speaker 20: much more. There's no better way to put your football

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Speaker 20: promo code pats to get a shot at millions of

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Speaker 20: Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com for details.

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Speaker 21: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

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Speaker 21: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight

1390
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Speaker 21: with his Bank of America Mobile banking app.

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Speaker 6: That's right, folks, So here we see pat cheering and

1392
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Speaker 6: then whammo is that Bank of America life plan.

1393
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Speaker 21: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,

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Speaker 21: planning the next Vacah big guy.

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Speaker 6: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions

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Speaker 6: using zel no penalty there, incredible.

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Speaker 5: No way.

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Speaker 8: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's

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Speaker 8: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy connoli,

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Speaker 8: what a performance.

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Speaker 6: Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive. Patriot fans

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Speaker 6: just can't stop banking. Learn more at Bankofamerica dot com

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Speaker 6: download the latest version of the mobile banking app. Only

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Speaker 22: College has programs in communications, sports, management, business and marketing

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Speaker 22: learn in the classroom and put it right to work

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Speaker 22: in the marketplace. At Dean College, our students don't just

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Speaker 22: play games, we run them.

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Speaker 4: Visit us at Dean dot edu.

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Speaker 6: Verizon, the network America relies on, and the official five

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Speaker 6: G network of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 16: Shock your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Fast, Pro Shops,

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Speaker 16: Petco and more. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen

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Speaker 16: Patriot dash Place dot com.

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Speaker 17: How did Verizon build the fastest five G in the world.

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1430
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Speaker 17: Then we give it massive capacity and near zero lack.

1431
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Speaker 17: than today's four G networks. This is five G built

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Speaker 17: right from the network. More people rely on only on

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Speaker 17: Verizon five G Ultra wideband available only in parts of

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Speaker 17: select cities. Global claim based on open signal independent analysis

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Speaker 17: Q two twenty twenty.

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Speaker 18: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, Oh No,

1439
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Speaker 18: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1440
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Speaker 18: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1441
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Speaker 18: now means next for residential delivery only.

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Speaker 4: In sports.

1443
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Speaker 19: If you think joy only happens after you win, think again.

1444
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Speaker 19: Look at the world's most successful athletes like Serena Williams,

1445
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Speaker 19: Brooks Kopka and Alex Morgan. They don't spend all their

1446
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Speaker 19: days grinding away. They take time to enjoy themselves, like

1447
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Speaker 19: getting together with friends over a michelob Ultra, because they

1448
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 19: know that happiness is the key to winning, and that

1449
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Speaker 19: Ultra ninety five calories two point six grams of carbs.

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Speaker 13: Some people are never content with simply being good, not

1454
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Speaker 13: when they can be great. But it takes a big

1455
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Speaker 13: step to get there. In fact, it takes a leap

1456
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Speaker 13: of faith, a belief in what you're striving toward, and

1457
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Speaker 13: a willingness to make the commitment day in and day

1458
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Speaker 13: out to something bigger than yourself. Putnam is proud to

1459
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Speaker 13: partner with those who share their own commitment to performance excellence.

1460
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Speaker 13: This is Matt life for Putnam Investments, a world of investing.

1461
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Speaker 20: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1462
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Speaker 20: better place to get in on all of the action

1463
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Speaker 20: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

1464
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Speaker 20: the New England Patriots. To add to the thrill, DraftKings

1465
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Speaker 20: has millions of dollars in prizes up for grabs every week,

1466
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Speaker 20: so head to the app now and check it out

1467
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Speaker 20: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

1468
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Speaker 20: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

1469
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 20: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and so

1470
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Speaker 20: much more. There's no better way to put your football

1471
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Speaker 20: knowledge to the test than to compete for a shot

1472
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Speaker 20: at one million dollars in total prizes. Download the DraftKings

1473
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1474
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Speaker 20: Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com for details.

1478
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Speaker 21: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

1479
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 21: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight

1480
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 21: with his Bank of America mobile banking app.

1481
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 6: That's right, folks, So here we see Pat cheering and

1482
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 6: then whammo, is that Bank of America life planned.

1483
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Speaker 21: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,

1484
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 21: planning the next VACA hop, big guy.

1485
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 6: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions

1486
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 6: using zel no penalty there, incredible.

1487
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 5: No way.

1488
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 8: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, Now he's

1489
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 8: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy Connoli,

1490
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 8: what a performance.

1491
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 6: Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive, Patriot fans

1492
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: just can't stop banking. Learn more at Bankofamerica dot com

1493
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Speaker 6: slash Banking. You must be enrolled in online banking or

1494
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Speaker 6: download the latest version of the mobile banking app, only

1495
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Speaker 6: available on select mobile devices. Message and data rates may apply.

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1497
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Speaker 22: Want to get into the game, Get coached up at

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Speaker 22: Dean College. Equipped with exclusive academic partnerships featuring the Patriots Revolution,

1499
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Speaker 22: Providence Ruins, Summer Baseball, and more. Our classrooms are set

1500
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Speaker 22: up for success by learning directly from the pros. Dean

1501
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Speaker 22: College has programs in communications, sports, management, business and marketing

1502
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Speaker 22: with unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students take what they

1503
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Speaker 22: learn in the classroom and put it right to work

1504
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Speaker 22: in the marketplace. At Dean College, our students don't just

1505
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Speaker 22: play games, We run them. Visit us at Dean dot edu.

1506
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Speaker 6: Verizon the network America relies on, and the official five

1507
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Speaker 6: G network of the New England Patriots.

1508
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Speaker 16: Patriot Places the region's number one shopping, dining and entertainment destination.

1509
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Speaker 16: Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Fast Pro Shops, Petco,

1510
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Speaker 16: and more. Enjoy dining at one of our nineteen restaurants,

1511
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Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 2: History. I saw Eric before we went to the break.

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: You were shaking your head. What the what are you

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: upset about the Bengals.

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't deal with him if he's going to

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: be like this all weekend, Fred, I need a.

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Speaker 23: Weekend, Paul. We know that the Bengals already gave Joe

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 23: Burrow his jersey. Why isn't the pick been made? We're

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 23: five minutes in. Let's go used to make.

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Speaker 4: He's tired, he needs his rest. It's getting close tired frohim.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 4: We haven't done anything in seven weeks. I'm not Eric,

1542
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 4: who is never suddenly bored waiting for this.

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Speaker 23: Yes, Megan O'Brien, you're right, Megan, we finally found something

1544
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 23: that bores me, the friggin Bengals.

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from We don't have Eric to

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 2: kick around anymore Classic.

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Speaker 4: But I did like the way that Megan subtly led

1548
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: Eric right into his little trap. He was famous during

1549
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 4: the the Pandemic Evan for saying that it's not boring.

1550
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 4: I've never been bored in my life, and then Megan

1551
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 4: just sort of, oh, but but you're bored waiting for

1552
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: the Bengals to make a pick.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually with him on on the way that the

1554
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 5: draft works. Though, Oh it's just painful. It's too painful.

1555
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 4: But like that was just the tip of the iceberg.

1556
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: Like we started off the draft and he was already

1557
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 4: in a full throat rant before the first pick was made, and.

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: I was like, by the time they traded down he was.

1559
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Douce, I'm like, I don't know if

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01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 4: we can make it. I don't have enough pepsi in

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 4: this planet to get me to it this weekend with him.

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Speaker 2: All right back here. Eight five to five past five

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Speaker 2: hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots

1564
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 2: dot com is the email address. We also got another listener,

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01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: Kevin in San Francisco just sent us a gift card

1566
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: to Jersey Mike's crazy. So like draft is like Christmas

1567
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: around here, Kevin. Yeah, Yeah, Kevin and sad one that

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: will not go to No, yeah, Jersey Mike's. We've already

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: figured out how we're gonna get.

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Speaker 7: It, and we're gonna maximize it. Paul, we got to

1571
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 7: get the jumbos. I think, get some jumbos, you know,

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 7: don't cut it out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you've convinced me I'm listening. Didn't take much. I'm listening.

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01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: I forgot those jumbos, uh Blake and Ohio rights in.

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01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: I've got my draft wishes and a question. So my

1576
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: hope is, and I know a lot of Patriots fans

1577
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: hate to hear it, is to trade back to somewhere

1578
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: in the early twenties and gather an extra second or

1579
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: third round pick. With this pick. I'd like to see

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01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 2: them take Jay Flowers if he's available. The guy is

1581
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: electric and can get open. The team lacks a guy

1582
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 2: who can consistently separate, and Zay seems to fit the bill.

1583
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: My question is, if the draft lays out like I hope,

1584
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 2: and the team is able to gather another second or third,

1585
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: what would you what would it take for them to

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: move up into the top six or eight picks in

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 2: the second round. I'd love to see Dwan Jones still

1588
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: hanging around in the early second for them to scoop up. Okay,

1589
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: so what do you think about that strategy? Trade down,

1590
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: take Zay, pick up extra picks in the second.

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 3: Or third, then go back up in the second, and

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 3: then go back.

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01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 5: That's the best case scenario to me. If you're telling

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01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 5: me that I absolutely have to suffer through another trade

1595
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: down in the first round. Like, if they're gonna do that,

1596
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 5: then at least trade down and target a player that's

1597
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 5: gonna move the needle a little bit and say, fine,

1598
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 5: the trade back up in the second round. You know,

1599
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 5: they've traded back up in the second round in five

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Speaker 5: consecutive drafts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the ones I was talking about.

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 4: They trade up as much as they trade down, but

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: it's not.

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01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've done that, that Christian Barmore trade in the

1605
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 5: second round five straight years. So I think that that's

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 5: very plausible.

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 7: But I think the thing that looms over all of

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 7: it is just that they need elite talent.

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 4: And talk about Darnel Washington. I see, I don't like

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01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: him as much as I do. I just that's okay.

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: I do like him.

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 7: I just question if he's being overrated because I don't

1613
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 7: think he's ever gonna be that athletic.

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 4: Because no, but he's being overrated because of that.

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, you know, like like and he just always

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 7: looks like, you know, like a giraffe to me, Like,

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01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 7: you know, the way he runs is just you know,

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 7: he's just not a smooth athlete. I'm sure he'll be,

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 7: you know, a great solid tight end, But I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just I wouldn't be opposed to him, But I

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01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 7: just think they need talented guys and it's and you

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 7: can sell me on Zay in the twenties and yeah,

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01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 7: that moves the needle, But who else other than Zay

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 7: in the twenties moves the needle? Like, you know, you

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 7: can't tell me they're gonna trade down and get a

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01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 7: lot of those other guys that'll be around, like they'll

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 7: be nice. But I just think I'd love to just

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 7: get one player that I truly believe can be an

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01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 7: elite And if you.

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Speaker 4: Target Zay, just take them.

1631
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, try to try to spin the wheel and.

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01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 4: Right like, why are we going to roll the back?

1633
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: Then he's gonna go from fourteen to twenty one and still.

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Be Well, really, it's a big risk to trade down

1635
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 2: with only one player. In mind, you trade down when

1636
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: you have several players who you know are gonna be there,

1637
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: you know, or you know you know at least one

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: of them will be there.

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01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 5: Right Like, if they look at the receiver position and

1640
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 5: they say Zay Addison, Quinton Johnston, and we're comfortable taking

1641
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 5: any of those three guys. If we trade down, then

1642
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 5: maybe do But I think the reason why you trade

1643
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: down is because you get that AMMO to then maybe

1644
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 5: trade back up again in the second round and get

1645
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 5: two players inside the top forty instead of two players

1646
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 5: inside the top fifty, which I guess you can. I

1647
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 5: can hear that argument.

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: I didn't hate. Yeah, I didn't hate the scenario that,

1649
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: but that's kind of what they've been doing.

1650
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1651
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a couple of tackles, you know, he mentioned

1652
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 5: Dwan Jones. I think Anton Harrison is going to be

1653
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 5: right on that fringe end of the first round beginning

1654
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 5: of the second round that if those guys hang on

1655
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: into day two and you're sitting there, Day two is

1656
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,440
Speaker 5: getting started on Friday, and we're and our best availables

1657
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 5: is up, and it's you know, a couple of these

1658
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 5: tackles or maybe a guy like Emmanuel Forbes or one

1659
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 5: of the corners is still there. I like the idea

1660
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 5: of that that second round trade up if you have

1661
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 5: the AMO to do it, which I think you get

1662
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 5: if you trade down, and.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 4: It depends what you're getting to, like, like you could

1664
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 4: trade down from fourteen, you know, as someone said, twenty

1665
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 4: six earlier. That that's a big that's a big just

1666
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 4: so you're probably gonna get something for that, right, you know. Yeah,

1667
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 4: I guess a lot of people would rather have like

1668
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: twenty one, forty six and fifty than fourteen and forty six.

1669
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't, especially when you have eleven draft picks, and

1670
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 4: you know already now if you're one of those teams

1671
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 4: that doesn't really help. You're just looking to trade down

1672
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 4: to add some picks that you don't have, Like Miami

1673
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: doesn't have a first round pick. Maybe they're looking to

1674
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 4: add some some picks to the start. And I don't

1675
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 4: love the guys that are available, Like, you know, to

1676
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: Evan's point, you can get a group of three and

1677
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 4: you're pretty comfortable, okay, But the Patriots, like, how do

1678
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 4: you get these players that put you over the top

1679
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 4: if you can consistently pick further down?

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01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 7: No, And to your point, pol, I think they got

1682
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 7: eleven picks, like they already have the ammal guys on

1683
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 7: the roster to move up, you know, so like would

1684
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 7: anyone be that upset if he only came away with

1685
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 7: god six draft picks? But you really love all of

1686
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 7: them and they're all in ye spots where you like,

1687
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 7: I'd be ok.

1688
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 4: Every point. There's seventy five guys already on the roster,

1689
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: so that's that, that's eighty six. You're probably going to

1690
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 4: get some specialists. Now. I know you can cut guys.

1691
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 4: I mean there's you know, there's seventy five guys in

1692
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 4: the roster. You know twenty of them shouldn't be worrying

1693
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: about any mortgage payments. I don't know. I just I'm

1694
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 4: always in favor of getting the best players. If if

1695
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 4: Zay Flower that's why I had no problem with that scenario.

1696
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 4: But if you really like Zay Flowers and you think

1697
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 4: he's a difference maker, why not just take him at fourteen? Now,

1698
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 4: if you can do what the emailer said, yeah, I'd

1699
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 4: rather have the guy I want at fourteen at twenty

1700
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: one so I can add a pick in the top fifty. Sure, yeah,

1701
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 4: I think that makes a lot of sense.

1702
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: But there's no guarantee.

1703
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 4: But there's no guarantee you're getting.

1704
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: Him, right.

1705
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 7: I wonder too, how much other teams, how well they

1706
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 7: track other teams, Like, how on top of that are

1707
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 7: they knowing all right, these six teams they are not taking?

1708
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 3: Are you sure they're not.

1709
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 4: Taking They didn't do a really good job of that

1710
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 4: last year with their first hard pick, right, Yeah, they

1711
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 4: didn't say that. Well, it's tough projection.

1712
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we spend so much time on the Patriots.

1713
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: We could tell you immediately.

1714
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 7: But there's got to be someone within this building whose

1715
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 7: whole job is just to tell you what is this

1716
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 7: team going to take, Who do you think they like,

1717
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 7: who fits their system? You know, who has that kind

1718
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 7: of knowledge of every single team. But even then it

1719
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 7: seems like someone else might trade up and grab one

1720
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 7: of the guys you're targeting.

1721
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: I wonder how often it teams have moles that tell

1722
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: other teams who they're interested in, and whether it's for

1723
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: nothing or for money. So I was watching it, I wonder.

1724
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: I was watching one of those documentaries on NFL Netport

1725
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 4: the weekend and they had the eighty four draft, and

1726
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 4: that was the draft that Did you see this? Did

1727
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 4: you watch this?

1728
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 5: I've seen it before.

1729
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. So one of the things they were talking

1730
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 4: about was the pick the famous uh forty nine Ers

1731
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 4: trade to get Jerry Rice. They traded with the Patriots,

1732
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 4: and there was three receivers. Like Evan pointed out, that

1733
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 4: they wanted, and they Walsh ends up calling Cincinnati Sam White,

1734
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 4: who was his old offensive coordinator, and they're talking and

1735
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 4: whis was like, like we Walsh told him like, we

1736
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 4: want Eddie Brown, and White says, well, we like Eddie Brown.

1737
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 4: And I was just surprised to hear them talking about

1738
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 4: how this all unfolded, Like they kid just came right

1739
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 4: out and said it. What if Cincinnati didn't really want

1740
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 4: Eddie Brown, But like Sam, Wish obviously thought a lot

1741
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 4: of Bill Walsh. You know what if in the back

1742
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 4: of his mind he was Jerry Rice. But Bill, Bill

1743
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: thinks it's Eddie Brown. No, no, no, right, you know what

1744
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah, right. I was surprised to hear talking

1745
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 4: about it so openly. I don't know if that's exactly

1746
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 4: the way it went down the way that Wish sort.

1747
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 3: Of who can you trust who's gonna be giving you

1748
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 3: false The.

1749
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 4: Bottom line was that pick. By the way, as they

1750
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 4: fell into it, they had three guys and that was

1751
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 4: the guy that they liked the least, and they ended

1752
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 4: up getting Jerry Rice.

1753
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 5: It's interesting though, when I was at the Shrine Bowl,

1754
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 5: it's very early on in the process, but just to

1755
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 5: listen to scouts and I don't know if these guys

1756
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 5: are you know, what a level of scout they are,

1757
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 5: but scouts from different teams sitting there talking to each

1758
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 5: other about the players like they're on the same team.

1759
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 5: I was fascinated to hear some of that chatter of

1760
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 5: you know, Bart and I were joking that one of

1761
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 5: them was a Steelers scout and we were like, what

1762
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 5: was he saying about the wide receivers, you know, and

1763
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 5: stuff like that, just to hear here's a Steelers scout

1764
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 5: and a Dolphins scout and they're talking about players openly

1765
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 5: about what they think of these guys, even though they're

1766
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 5: on different teams. So I think there is a little

1767
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 5: bit more of that chatter than maybe you would expect.

1768
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 5: Not now, I don't think once we get really close

1769
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 5: and it's at the end of.

1770
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: The day, you're all watching the same tape, right, You're

1771
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: at the same practice. You know.

1772
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 7: It was the same thing I noticed when I, you know,

1773
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 7: gone to a couple of those pro days, Like it

1774
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 7: just was a little surprising. You just don't expect all

1775
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 7: the scouts to kind of be friendly working together going

1776
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 7: through that. I mean, they do it all the time.

1777
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 7: It's like they just travel from school to school. Here

1778
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 7: we are you know, what else are you going to talk?

1779
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 5: They they pull together their numbers on like you know

1780
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 5: they because they'll tie them forties and stuff like that

1781
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 5: at pro days by by hand and they all come.

1782
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 5: The number that usually comes out is an aggregate of

1783
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 5: or the average of all the scouts that were there,

1784
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 5: and they make like a circle and like somebody like

1785
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 5: leads the huddle, and basically it's just like what time

1786
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 5: do you have? What time do you have? What time

1787
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 5: do you have? And then they average it out.

1788
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 7: It just fascinates me how they do that, like when

1789
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 7: you know, like how like how how it can match up.

1790
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 4: They would have a little bit better way.

1791
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: To do that when we have a little combine here

1792
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: every year for high school kids in the bubble and uh,

1793
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 2: they have electronic timers now, but I still go with

1794
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 2: the iPhone and I use.

1795
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 3: The bop high hand.

1796
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: How close are you?

1797
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 21: Not?

1798
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Way off? But it's something where you're talking am the internet.

1799
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,480
Speaker 4: The hundredths of second then made the combine the physical.

1800
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 3: Bench pressing must have liked you couldn't wait for that part.

1801
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Uh, Mitch in Albany, Is it safe to say that

1802
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: the off season for the Patriots has been pretty quiet

1803
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: and Mundane I was hoping we would get at least

1804
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: one more emergency podcast because that would have meant they

1805
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: actually did something worth noting. Second, if the Patriots were

1806
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 2: to take jsn or Flowers, do you guys think the

1807
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: offense is complete or they would still be missing another threat?

1808
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: And do you think Belichick and the coaches think jsn

1809
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: or Flowers completes the offense and they don't need to

1810
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: make any more moves.

1811
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,879
Speaker 4: And besides offensive line.

1812
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of weapons, I just think you know,

1813
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: they brought in Gasiki, they brought in Shuster, kind of

1814
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: a replacement if they brought in a receiver in the

1815
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: first round. Do you think in terms of weapons they're done.

1816
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 5: I think they have to be, because you got those

1817
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: guys kind of play. Yeah, say, you just can't have

1818
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 5: too many mouths to feed.

1819
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 7: I just think for me that it's just the general

1820
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 7: trait of quickness in the middle of the field.

1821
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: I just don't think they have that.

1822
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 7: I think they got some good size, some good lengths,

1823
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 7: some good guys to go down the field. I just

1824
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 7: I'd like to get a couple of horizontal guys to

1825
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 7: round it out. I mean we can say, of course

1826
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 7: they need that like dynamic X receiver. I don't know

1827
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 7: if they're going to find that in this draft, but

1828
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 7: I mean I think overall, I'd be at least intrigued.

1829
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 7: Right now, it just feels kind of like I think.

1830
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm you know, we did the roundtable kind

1831
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 7: of with Kasiki, you know, like I think Juju, I'm

1832
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 7: I'm interested to see kind of what what his version is,

1833
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 7: but ultimately expect him to be vaguely as productive as.

1834
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could could be significant upgrade from Jacob, but

1835
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 2: right now we're thinking it's kind of a swap. But

1836
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, because Smith just never caught on, you're hoping

1837
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: that Kaiski Kasiki is a clear upgrade there.

1838
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 4: It just gives some disclosure. I had to do a

1839
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 4: Google search on the Patriots free agent signings, So no,

1840
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 4: it didn't like Robinson, No, I picked when I when

1841
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 4: I put up a oh yeah, that to me is

1842
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 4: the only like to your point, like, I think that

1843
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 4: he should be right, should be significantly better than Jona Smith, right,

1844
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 4: but in terms of that like emergency podcast where obviously

1845
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 4: will be on the air, did they make a trade

1846
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 4: this weekend, not a draft trade. Oh, like for a player?

1847
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 4: Do they acquire a player, a veteran player.

1848
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes, just because I feel like they

1849
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 3: usually do.

1850
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 7: Like I don't know, there's always seems like there's some movement.

1851
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say yes. I'm gonna say

1852
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 7: they will.

1853
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 5: I've been percolating on that. I think yes, as well

1854
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 5: as Jerry Judy done, can I can?

1855
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 4: We can? We pivot? Sure? Brandon Aiyuk? Why the hell

1856
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 4: would San Francisco on trade him?

1857
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 5: Because they don't have the money to pay all of them.

1858
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 5: He's in the same exact position contractually as Jerry Judy,

1859
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 5: same spot his fourth year right now of his rookie deal,

1860
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 5: going into the fifth year option.

1861
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 4: But they're super Bowl caliber like Denver, right.

1862
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 5: But I could see a team like San Francisco thinking

1863
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 5: that we can trade Brandon Nayuk and we can draft

1864
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 5: insertin name here, and we have the system and we

1865
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 5: have the infrastructure that that guy's going to be as

1866
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 5: good as Brandon nay.

1867
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 4: That would be just as arrogant as that ding bat

1868
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 4: would would act. He would say, it doesn't matter. I

1869
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 4: can just plug the guy in.

1870
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, usually this trade happens on

1871
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: the second day, right after the teams have gotten their

1872
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: first round. It's like, okay, now we'll trade so and so.

1873
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 2: Usually that's you know, Randy Moss was second day, you know, you.

1874
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, and that's what I'm talking. I don't necessarily

1875
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 4: mean Thursday night, but right, I think that we've sort

1876
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 4: of forgotten about acquiring somebody via trade. And I don't

1877
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 4: ever rule it out, no.

1878
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: But for good reason, because it's so hard to say

1879
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 3: what are they going to do?

1880
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 7: I mean, you can throw random players out there that

1881
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 7: could possibly make sense, but probably it's going to be

1882
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 7: somebody that we haven't of course, you know it's gonna be.

1883
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right.

1884
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 5: I just brought up by Yuk because some of the

1885
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers beat writers that I follow have

1886
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 5: been talking a lot about wide receivers in this draft

1887
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 5: for them because of that exact reason, we're just gonna

1888
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 5: swap them out. You know, we're not gonna pay Auk

1889
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 5: long term, so we're already paying Debo and Kittle and McCaffrey,

1890
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 5: and you know, they don't have the money to pay

1891
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 5: all these guys, and so what's the difference to them

1892
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,799
Speaker 5: between Nyuk and Jonathan Mingo or who you know, whoever,

1893
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 5: and they kind of just do a swap there and

1894
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 5: get something back for Brandon Nyuk. I don't know, it

1895
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 5: just it dawned on me as somebody that we talked

1896
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 5: so much about Hopkins, we talked so much about Judy,

1897
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 5: and it's sort of going after that, what's that Who's

1898
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 5: the guy that nobody's talking about that all of a

1899
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 5: sudden gets moved like aj Brown last year?

1900
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam in North Carolina says last season, I felt

1901
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: the defense had a hard time getting off the field

1902
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: on third in three to five yards. Is there someone

1903
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: the Patriots could draft that could help them get off

1904
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: the field in these situations? Yeah, Christian Gonzale.

1905
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 5: I mean, they just had trouble getting off the field

1906
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 5: on third down. I don't think that the distance of

1907
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 5: the yardage was really.

1908
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that probably all defenses struggle

1909
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: in that situation, third and three to five.

1910
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 3: Right, everything's on the table.

1911
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't have to necessarily execute at a

1912
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 4: high level on third and three, you know, a quick

1913
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 4: hit or boom. You know, we didn't get a we

1914
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 4: didn't get a big gain, but we moved the chains.

1915
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Alex writes in from Charlotte. Question for Paul uh about

1916
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 2: the state of the team? Uh, First, which pick on

1917
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: Thursday is less disappointing for you? B John Robinson or

1918
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: a tackle at fourteen which is.

1919
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 4: Less less disappointing would be the tackle? And I love

1920
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 4: B John Robins. Before anybody said, like, I think B.

1921
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 4: John Robinson's a very good player. We kind of talked

1922
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 4: about this. There's an argument we made that he's the

1923
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 4: best player in this class. He might not be, but

1924
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 4: there's an argument for it. I just don't like the

1925
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 4: idea of a running back that high. Maybe it's stubborn.

1926
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 4: I mean it's not the first time I'd be guilty

1927
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 4: of that. I'd be less disappointed with the tackle.

1928
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Secondly, if you could wave a magic wand and just

1929
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: get rid of the O line and D line in

1930
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: football and you are the GM of the team, what

1931
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: wide receive was did you bring in via trade draft

1932
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 2: or signed to add explosive That's that's a loaded question. Yeah.

1933
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 4: I like Evans brandan Ayuka theory. I just I guess

1934
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 4: I'll never underestimate his stupidity. I think nothing of Shannan.

1935
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 4: If you can't tell, I think absolutely nothing of a

1936
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 4: guy who is the championship game so arrogant and he

1937
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 4: keeps costing them when you get there. Well not this year,

1938
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 4: but I just think that the idea that you could

1939
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: get doesn't matter. I just I plucked him off the

1940
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 4: off the stud tree because it's my system. That's you know,

1941
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 4: maybe he will trade him, maybe he'll think like that,

1942
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: but I would look at it and say, I'm super

1943
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 4: Bowl caliber right now. I have guy in his fourth

1944
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 4: year in a contract year. It behooves him to light

1945
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 4: it up for him. And if I can't retain him,

1946
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 4: I can't retain him. But I'm gonna roll the dice

1947
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: and just say.

1948
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,600
Speaker 7: I can do it with anybody, especially with like it

1949
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 7: sounds like somebody else, McCaffrey, Debo injuries.

1950
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's my point, like, what happens if you

1951
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: do that? You draft a guy who may or may

1952
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 4: not be able to play. Let's face it, it's a

1953
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 4: draft pick who knows and then Debo, who's always in

1954
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 4: and out of the lineup, and McCaffrey, who's always in

1955
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 4: and out of the lineup, are hurt at the same time.

1956
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: So now you got George Kittle, who, by the way,

1957
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 4: also isn't the most durable player. And that's it. I

1958
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 4: have the super Bowl caliber roster in my system that

1959
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 4: evidently is flawless. Although I've never won a title.

1960
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 5: It is a good system, you know, And I could

1961
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 5: just plug anybody into it.

1962
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 4: But now I got nothing. I have no one to

1963
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 4: plug in. I mean, it's a good point. I don't

1964
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 4: think that he I don't think that Evan's wrong. I

1965
01:30:58,920 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 4: think that's the way he thinks.

1966
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 5: I would not have thrown it out there if I

1967
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 5: didn't see some of the San Francisco media chattering about it,

1968
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 5: Like I'm reading these about the forty nine ers and

1969
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 5: all the like wide receivers at near the top of

1970
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 5: the needs list because of getting out ahead of Brandon Nayuk.

1971
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: You know, in his contract, you spent a better pro

1972
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 5: than Jerry Jude and everybody's got over Judy, right, He's

1973
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 5: been a lot better in the pros than Judy. I'm

1974
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 5: a different situation, but yeah.

1975
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 4: He doesn't have that magic system.

1976
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 5: Well he doesn't mean Jerry Judy doesn't have George Kittle

1977
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 5: and Christian McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel taking the attention.

1978
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, should we give away a T shirt?

1979
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Matt Oh wow, okay, all right, so we'll give away

1980
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: a T shirt. First correct answer that emails it to

1981
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: web radio at Patriots dot com wins the T shirt.

1982
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 2: It's a Patriot's unfiltered T shirt. And the question is,

1983
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 2: what was the name of the Patriots first online video show?

1984
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: What was the name of the Patriots first online video show?

1985
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 7: Maybe we should bring some T shirts up to the

1986
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 7: draft party on Thursday, and we still don't have that

1987
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 7: T shirt.

1988
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 4: Gun got gotta have some reason for being at the

1989
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 4: draft party.

1990
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 3: Oh, you got to write it down.

1991
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 4: I went an hour and a half.

1992
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 7: Well, I was thinking if we have one of those

1993
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 7: T shirt launching machines that we could, you know, find

1994
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 7: lucky fans in the stands and shirt faced.

1995
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 4: As long as I'm not doing the firing, because I

1996
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 4: do not want to then fired.

1997
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Right, Let's see Rory in the UK writes in Happy

1998
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,879
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers Day. Everyone with the Patriots, now the bookies

1999
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 2: least favorite to win the division, and the team's recent

2000
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: draft history fresh in our minds, I'm sure excitement is

2001
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 2: high in Patriot's Nation. If you find your I sent

2002
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: a little sarcast.

2003
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 4: Vegas is always.

2004
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 6: We have a winner already in Albany. Who Mitch from

2005
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 6: Albany with Patriots cyber sideline.

2006
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 4: That's correct, my roommate, welcome.

2007
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 2: All right. Maybe we'll do another uh.

2008
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 4: Welcome to you later in the show cyber sideline.

2009
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: All right, good Mitch.

2010
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 24: Uh.

2011
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: If you find yourself a little too excited about the

2012
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: upcoming draft to need your mood setting settling down a bit,

2013
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 2: I highly recommend the excellent NFL film channel NFL Throwback

2014
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Sit back pop on the two thousand and

2015
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: eight or twenty thirteen draft or something like that, and

2016
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: watch all those teams who are sure they're getting better

2017
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 2: now that they have Goster Cherilists or Chance Warmack sarcasm aside.

2018
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm fully on board with just drafting. No, I'm just

2019
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm fully on board with just drafting someone who's fun

2020
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: to watch, like Deontay Banks or z or something just

2021
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:45,480
Speaker 2: give me hope.

2022
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 4: And I thinkists from Somerville by the oh.

2023
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 5: I find it interesting that that people find that there

2024
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 5: are a lot of people do find corners to be

2025
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 5: fun to watch, because I I enjoy breaking down corners,

2026
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 5: But on TV, you don't even see him seventy five

2027
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 5: percent of the time, right, So, I don't know.

2028
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 4: I get it.

2029
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 2: They're fun to watch when you need that play at

2030
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 2: the end of the fourth quarter to win the game,

2031
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 2: and they make it fun.

2032
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 4: Right sure, yeah, like a guy like that, But yeah,

2033
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 4: I get that. I just I don't know. I know

2034
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 4: what you don't banks is really going to get like

2035
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 4: people are like, Yeah, Like.

2036
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm really starting to warm up on

2037
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: save Flowers though. I mean, he's there's enough of these

2038
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: national pundits that are high on Zay Flowers in terms

2039
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: of visibility that make me say, maybe I should give

2040
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: him a second look because BC isn't known for wide receivers.

2041
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 2: They're not known for offense. You know my linement ever

2042
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 2: since time offensive Lineman's yeah, ever since Tom koffin Matt Ryan,

2043
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 2: you know. And uh so, the fact that Zay Flowers

2044
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 2: is that high up with a lot of these expert

2045
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 2: means he broke through, you know, that barrier that DC

2046
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: players have, so he might be better than we all

2047
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 2: think he is. You know.

2048
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 5: I mean I don't think he could be better than

2049
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 5: I think that would be hard, you know, So I

2050
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 5: like I'm wondering.

2051
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 4: What everybody thinks. What how do you know what everybody thinks.

2052
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 4: I've been doing my first or second round pick.

2053
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: No, but they're saying like he's got exceptional ability to

2054
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 2: get separation. That you know, if he had had a

2055
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: quarterback that was more accurate, he'd be even better.

2056
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean, but I think everybody has him in their

2057
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 4: top five receivers. Yeah, but in the class. I mean,

2058
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 4: I think he's very high.

2059
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people don't think you

2060
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 2: should pick him high in the first round. I think

2061
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: you should wait till late first round, early whatever. But

2062
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take him high in the first round. But

2063
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: I've heard people saying I'm guilty. Don't don't let the

2064
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 2: size cloud your judgment.

2065
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 5: I will, Like, I just think the size thing is

2066
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 5: just that's today's game is just today like it's so

2067
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 5: it's so much leans towards like the player that Zay

2068
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 5: Flowers is. Like, I just I always get caught up

2069
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 5: on the size thing because you can't touch anybody down

2070
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 5: the field anymore, so like who's who? Like where is

2071
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 5: the physicality overpowering? And maybe at the line of scrimmage,

2072
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 5: But if you're not playing him a ton on the outside,

2073
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 5: and he's not going to face a ton of press

2074
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 5: coverage anyways. So I keep going back to that when

2075
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 5: people are like always too small, and I'm just like,

2076
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 5: who is, Like they can't ride receivers down the field anymore.

2077
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 5: If he breaks at the top of the route and

2078
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 5: somebody grabs him, it's going to be a flag every

2079
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 5: single time. So where is the physicality part of it?

2080
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 4: I concern with size has nothing to do with getting

2081
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 4: off press coverage. It has to do with withstanding the

2082
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 4: punishment over the middle, which my guess is at Boston College,

2083
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 4: he didn't take a lot of shots over the middle. Yeah,

2084
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 4: but I think I think you will now listen, Edelman

2085
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 4: was able to withstand them and Welker was able to

2086
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 4: withstand them. They both had long careers in that spot

2087
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 4: at similar size. I just think he's a different guy.

2088
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 4: Is really small.

2089
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I heard one pundit compare you know, minus the craziness

2090
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 2: to Antonio Brown.

2091
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 5: That that's like the popular ceiling comparison for him, meaning

2092
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 5: if he absolutely hits it out of the park, he could.

2093
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 5: He has that type of movement skill. But I just

2094
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be a guy

2095
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 5: that's going to have to live in that real middle,

2096
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 5: packed in the middle of the field because he has

2097
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 5: that explosiveness to separate over the top. So how is

2098
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 5: he going to survive the middle of the field. Probably

2099
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 5: by running away from everybody, Like you know, that's.

2100
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 4: What he did in college. When you're watch him on tape,

2101
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 4: he runs away from everybody. I don't think you can

2102
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 4: do that in the pros. That's fair, We'll see, because

2103
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 4: I think everybody's that fast in the pros.

2104
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but it's it's how quickly do you

2105
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 2: go from zero to the accounting from that was? You know,

2106
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 2: if you go to forty speed, that's different. But I'm

2107
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: talking about the shuttle speed, the cone.

2108
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 7: Quick the ins and the outs, the three coney.

2109
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 5: He actually didn't run the agilities, which for some people

2110
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a flag because he looks

2111
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 5: really quick on film, So what are you hiding?

2112
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 8: Right?

2113
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 4: Are you not at?

2114
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 5: But I think with him, his quickness really shows up

2115
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 5: after the catch, like he's one of those guys that

2116
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 5: you know, he had a cut against Louisville where he

2117
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 5: broke two guys his ankles and one cut right and

2118
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,959
Speaker 5: then he just kind of takes off up the sideline.

2119
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I don't necessarily look at him

2120
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 5: as like a Welker Edelman slot. I look at him

2121
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 5: more as like a Dion Branch type of receiver that's

2122
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 5: gonna get up the field a little bit more. So

2123
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 5: I'm not as concerned about him getting hit.

2124
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this, I will not be

2125
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 4: disappointed if that's the pick. I like the idea of

2126
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 4: adding a dynamic athlete in the passing game. You know

2127
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: how you always like, well, if they pick him, I'll

2128
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 4: I'll be on.

2129
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 5: If they have him in Taekwon on the field together.

2130
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 5: Even if Taekwon is just just a fast guy that's

2131
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,480
Speaker 5: running in a straight line. That that's some serious explosive.

2132
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Throw Marcus Jones out there for a player too.

2133
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 4: I have some concerns about I have a day pick.

2134
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 4: I mean I've been saying that for four months.

2135
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 3: The rhyming that you could do, the headlines.

2136
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 2: Kids, no.

2137
01:38:54,200 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Mackenzie, things are blooming in Gele.

2138
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 2: Oh, the flowers, yeah, oh, we could go crazy with him.

2139
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 7: Uh, local kid Eric might come out of retirement just

2140
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 7: for that to like, for all the flowers puns that

2141
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 7: he could.

2142
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, April drafting brings trade flowers.

2143
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Todd's and Greenville. What's up? Todd.

2144
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 24: Let me begin by congratulating you on listening to your

2145
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 24: draft team and finding Eric's replacement with you know, that

2146
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 24: youthful snark and knowledge of the game. And most importantly,

2147
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 24: you know, Evan cares about the game, so that's probably

2148
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 24: that's true.

2149
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: Liking football is a big advantage.

2150
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: He likes the game too much.

2151
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 4: Yeah. Married to the game, baby.

2152
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure your girlfriend was hearing that.

2153
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 4: Told her the other night. You didn't go over well

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01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 4: for me for this draft.

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01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 24: What I'm looking for, do the Patriots address the needs

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01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 24: based on the current you know, I don't know take

2157
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 24: zeitgeist because that's Spread's word, but the current you know,

2158
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 24: mode of play in the NFL. Do they get fast linebackers,

2159
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 24: do they get that outside speed? They do they address

2160
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 24: it looking to where the game is or do they

2161
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 24: go back to saying, hey, we're going to do some

2162
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 24: smash po stuff. We're going to do our style, you know,

2163
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 24: this controlled stuff and we're going to you know, run

2164
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 24: first past second whatever. I really want to see what

2165
01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 24: they do because I think that's going to tell us

2166
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 24: where the staff is what they're thinking and how it's

2167
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 24: going to go forward. I think that's what we got

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01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 24: to look for. Yeah, what does your guys take?

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01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 15: Thanks guys.

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01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:22,919
Speaker 4: Thanks.

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01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 5: They they draft a fast linebacker in the top one hundred.

2172
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 4: Ball in this class. Not a great linebacker class. I think.

2173
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 5: I saw somebody I think is Marcus Moser. One of

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 5: those people does like a big consensus board every year

2175
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 5: which takes like Kuiper McShay and Jeremiah and like all

2176
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 5: the big draft people and puts it all in one

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01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 5: aggregate board. And Jack Campbell was the I know Drew

2178
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 5: Sanders consensus number one linebacker at like forty six or

2179
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 5: something like that in the top one hundred. You know,

2180
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 5: just not not a great linebacker class this year.

2181
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 7: I just think for me, the biggest issue I see

2182
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 7: with that linebacker thing is is just when they get

2183
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 7: with the mobile guys, you know, it's like the safeties

2184
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 7: can't quite stick with them and you know, get him

2185
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 7: down and the linebackers can't catch them, and you know,

2186
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 7: they just get stuck in the middle area.

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01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 3: But otherwise I've given up.

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01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 7: I just like they they that's what their philosophy is

2189
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 7: with strong safeties and linebackers until Jawan Bentley leaves or

2190
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 7: till I leaves or you know, they have to make

2191
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 7: a decision on Dougger.

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01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 3: I think that's what they're gonna do.

2193
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: Would you take van Ness in the first round at fourteen? No? No,

2194
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: I didn't love him.

2195
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 4: You don't I like him, but not at fourteen?

2196
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

2197
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd much rather.

2198
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 7: I mean, it's stupid to say, but I mean the

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01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 7: Tyree Wilson's like those guys.

2200
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: He's someone I've seen anywhere from top ten to down

2201
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:43,879
Speaker 2: in the twenties.

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01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 5: If they take van Ness, then Bill better get a

2203
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 5: good review from what's his name? The coach at Iowa,

2204
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 5: i Farence, because he wasn't a full time player at Iowa.

2205
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 5: He didn't start a single game right at Iowa. And

2206
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 5: he was like a four hundred snap guy last year.

2207
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: But he was out there on all the key situations.

2208
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 5: He was but he was like their josh u Ja.

2209
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 5: And it's if you're drafting him at fourteen, then you

2211
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 5: need him to be a three down player. So why

2212
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 5: wasn't he a three down player at Iowa. It's not

2213
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 5: like Iowa had seventeen defensive ends that were all, you know,

2214
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 5: it's not Alabama, Like, we're not talking about a school

2215
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 5: that has five star recruits up the wazoo on the

2216
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 5: defensive line.

2217
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's go to Aaron in New Haven. What's up, Aaron? Aaron?

2218
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Are you on mute? Okay, Aaron is gone. I'm sorry

2219
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 2: about that matchup. Aaron sam in Toronto rights in. He said,

2220
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 2: I wrote a whole email on my thoughts that the

2221
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 2: Patriot should draft offense with the first two or three picks,

2222
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 2: as I believe they need to stop trying to win

2223
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 2: games with a score of six to three and get

2224
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 2: back to being able to win thirty eight, thirty five.

2225
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Oh Paul would love that.

2226
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 4: Well, that was the beauty of Brady. He could Beatre

2227
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 4: six three or thirty eighth, whatever you decided.

2228
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 5: Was And then everybody said he played well when they

2229
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 5: won six to three.

2230
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 2: Then I remember they used their Then I remember more

2231
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: than I am. Then I remember they used their first

2232
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 2: two picks on offense last year, and it didn't matter.

2233
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: So I deleted the whole thing to now say I

2234
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 2: don't care what they do as long as they hit

2235
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 2: on the players they take this. Teams need franchise players

2236
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball bad. But I'm keeping

2237
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 2: expectations low going into it to protect myself after the

2238
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 2: last ten or so drafts. I just hope the first

2239
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 2: two picks don't cause the PR team to have to

2240
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 2: turn on the spin machine like last year about the

2241
01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 2: picks that they weren't reaches and that if we didn't

2242
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: take them, another team was about to. Let's let the

2243
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 2: other teams do the early reaching. Please good email.

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01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what the bottom line is, Like, I

2245
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 7: don't really care trade up, trade down, but like, just

2246
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 7: hit the picks, Like, just hit the picks, and good

2247
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 7: players have been selected in every round of the draft,

2248
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 7: and that's what they have to do. And until they

2249
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,560
Speaker 7: start getting those guys, it's it's gonna be more of

2250
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 7: this like seven eight win seasons.

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01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I've been really as the draft gets closer,

2252
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 5: like the whole what position should they take in the

2253
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 5: first round?

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01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 4: Good football player?

2255
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 5: Like just get me somebody that is that is going

2256
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 5: to have some elite potential or whatever position it is

2257
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 5: other than nose tackle and running back.

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01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 4: I don't really think that it's true, but that's the

2259
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 4: beauty of needing four or five spots you don't have

2260
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 4: to be pigeonholed into taking one.

2261
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 5: I also think, you know, to spin it with a

2262
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 5: little bit of positivity. In free agency, they filled out

2263
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 5: the back end of the depth chart and they added

2264
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 5: some guys at tackle. They added some guys you know

2265
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 5: that can that are those depth pieces. So because you

2266
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 5: have a Riley Reef on the roster, you're not absolutely

2267
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 5: desperate to take a tackle in the first round.

2268
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 4: I agree you could take one in the third round

2269
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 4: that you have an idea. Maybe it isn't quite ready,

2270
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 4: but I can plug in Riley Reef and I'm probably

2271
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 4: gonna get twelve games out of him, and if I

2272
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 4: need my rookie third round pick to play four or five,

2273
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 4: I'll be okay.

2274
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 7: That's why cornerback sticks out to me because I do

2275
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 7: have some confidence in them at tackle and developing tackles

2276
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 7: and you know those kind of things. Like a guy

2277
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 7: like Tyler Steen, you know, like I could see that

2278
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 7: being the pick and then he.

2279
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 3: Kind of emerges with cornerback.

2280
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 7: I just that with this class, with where they're picking,

2281
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 7: it just there's a handful of really potential elite guys

2282
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 7: and then you get into good corners that are fine,

2283
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 7: and they could fill a role. But for of all

2284
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 7: the positions that I feel like, if it's now or never,

2285
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 7: I feel like that's probably cornerback.

2286
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 3: For me.

2287
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 7: It's like if you don't get one at fourteen, you're

2288
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 7: probably just gonna, you know, take a take a shot

2289
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 7: on somebody in the second or third round that you

2290
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 7: know just isn't the slam dunk it that Gonzales or Banks.

2291
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 5: Or Macro is up there. Gushing about the cornerback class

2292
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 5: last week, he said that there's gonna be a couple

2293
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 5: of corners on Sauces level like that high up in

2294
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 5: the in the draft. You know, I'm sure he's talking

2295
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 5: about like Witherspoon and Gonzales, but.

2296
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 4: I've heard that there's a lot of good players in

2297
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 4: that position that you're gonna They're gonna be really good

2298
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 4: players in the lower round too.

2299
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 5: I think you're drafting startable corners into Day three.

2300
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I think you could talk yourself

2301
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 4: either way like Mike's Mike's theory or you know, like

2302
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:12,600
Speaker 4: that you know, the tackle theory, because if you I

2303
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 4: think it's the same at all positions. If you want

2304
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 4: a guy to plug and play, you need to take

2305
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 4: him in the first round. Now you have to decide,

2306
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 4: is Broderick Jones or Paris Johnson and Peter Scronsky a

2307
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 4: better player than Banks or Porter or whoever you Because

2308
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm assuming my dream of Gonzales and with you know,

2309
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 4: everybody has Witherspoon and Gonzales in the top ten. I'm

2310
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 4: assuming they're gone. So now you're talking about Porter or

2311
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 4: who Banks? Your guy? Right?

2312
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? We like Banks. We like Banks, not as big

2313
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 2: on Porter as I was talking about all the great

2314
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to the AFC East. Now David and Bethlehem says,

2315
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 2: what is the kryptonite for them defensive ends? Let's forget

2316
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 2: O line prudence and draft a game wrecker. Please tell

2317
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 2: us who we should draft in that.

2318
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 4: Case, ty w of course he could be off the board.

2319
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 4: I picked two.

2320
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 5: But if he's not, you can read my mock draft

2321
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 5: and I'll show you how the Patriots can get him.

2322
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 3: Find out there you go.

2323
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 4: Kryptonite though, yeahing, Aaron Rodgers won how many MVPs no

2324
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 4: one had a defensive end.

2325
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 5: I guess to be fair, though, every single quarterback, whether

2326
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 5: it's Aaron Rodgers or it's Patrick Mahomes, when you put

2327
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 5: pressure on him, they play worse like that's just the

2328
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 5: that's the bottom line, no doubt, And now you need

2329
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 5: to have guys that can cover for at least a

2330
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 5: little bit to get that. Let the rush get there

2331
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 5: and all marries up. As Bill likes to say, but

2332
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 5: there's an argument there to be made that if they

2333
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 5: added Tyree Wilson to Judan and Ouch and Barmore and

2334
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 5: Dietrich U like, now they have this elite front that

2335
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 5: can get after Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers.

2336
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 7: Yep, I mean I set up before, what does this

2337
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 7: defense look like without Matthew Judon.

2338
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 3: I just think the drop off and the change that's

2339
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,680
Speaker 3: required if that guy got hurt, it's it's the.

2340
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 7: Falloff will be humongous. And neither of those other guys

2341
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 7: are three down guys. I I could totally see them

2342
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 7: trying to take a three down defensive end edge guy

2343
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 7: makes it makes a lot of sense.

2344
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 2: Caleb wrights In been wanting to make this point for

2345
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 2: a while that I think gets overlooked a lot of

2346
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 2: the by the loud minority of our fan base. I know,

2347
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,759
Speaker 2: the last couple of years we've been seeing teams around

2348
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 2: the AFC and the whole AFC East catch up and

2349
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 2: pass us by far in terms of playmakers and talent.

2350
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 2: I think it is often overlooked that the Bills, Jets,

2351
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: and Dolphins, along with others around the AFC are in

2352
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: their competitive position because they absolutely sucked for ten years

2353
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 2: or more. Especially the teams in the AFC East have

2354
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 2: only just now been able to field good teams after

2355
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 2: years of top ten after top ten pick, multiple top

2356
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 2: ten picks for the Jets, which landed them Sauce and Wilson.

2357
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 2: I get it. Bill has whiffed in the draft in

2358
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 2: years of late, but we also have won three Super

2359
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 2: Bowls and have been to five since twenty eleven. People,

2360
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 2: while we are rebuilding, every AFC East team are exhausting

2361
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: their means to win it all now, and you can

2362
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 2: only have one Super Bowl winner every season. So I

2363
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 2: guess this point is that they've been drafting high for

2364
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 2: a long time and we haven't.

2365
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 7: That's fine, and there's definitely truth to some of those

2366
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 7: players that the other teams have had opportunities to play,

2367
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 7: but they've also you know, made other selections like you know,

2368
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 7: Matt Malano or you know, other picks that they've hit

2369
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 7: on that weren't necessarily even those top round picks that

2370
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 7: have been successful. And I mean the Patriots are now

2371
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 7: what going on four years, haven't won a playoff game,

2372
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 7: haven't made the playoffs in two of the last three years.

2373
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 7: If if you know still telling you, hey, they've been

2374
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 7: to five Super Bowls each year, it gets more and

2375
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 7: more like it's not going in a good direction right now.

2376
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 4: The Bills I sort of bristle at the whole, like, well,

2377
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 4: you've got to be up to The Bills made what

2378
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 4: I don't what I think is a very underrated move.

2379
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 4: I don't think people understand the risk that they took

2380
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 4: to get up and get Josh Allen, Like they didn't

2381
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 4: luck into the fourth overall pick, and they were they

2382
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 4: would terrible in the right year, and got the stud first.

2383
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 4: There was nowhere near a consensus on Josh Allen coming

2384
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 4: out second. They went from I believe twenty seven to

2385
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 4: ten or something like that. They went from the twenties

2386
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 4: to like ten to get Josh Allen, so a guy

2387
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 4: that not everybody was good. They didn't do that to

2388
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 4: get Andrew Luck. They did that to get a guy

2389
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 4: that not everybody was sold on. And they were right

2390
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 4: and that's why the Bills are what they are right now.

2391
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 4: Like you can talk about they picked in the top ten, well,

2392
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 4: they were in the playoffs in seventeen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one,

2393
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 4: twenty two. Like this is not like, oh, they got

2394
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 4: good last year because they had ten years of first rumpet,

2395
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 4: you know, top ten picks. That ain't it. They've they've

2396
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 4: gotten good because they've nailed a quarterback pick that not

2397
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 4: everybody would have done. And I'll be completely honest, I

2398
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 4: would have done that. I wasn't sold on Josh Allen

2399
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 4: coming out like that. I was intrigued by the skill set,

2400
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 4: but would you have trade it up? No? I think

2401
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 4: they made two trades actually to do it. I don't

2402
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 4: have the numbers in front of me, but I think

2403
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 4: they to go from the twenties to ten to get

2404
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,839
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, which I don't think a lot of gms

2405
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 4: would have done. Well.

2406
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 5: The Chiefs did the same thing for Patrick Mahomes, And

2407
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 5: I think that this is to you know the email,

2408
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 5: and I'm right there with you, not top ten picks.

2409
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 5: The Patriots also just don't think that way, right, The

2410
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 5: Patriots don't think that way. They don't do it that way,

2411
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 5: and for better or worse, it hasn't really worked out

2412
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 5: the way that they do things. The trade down and

2413
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 5: draft cole strained strategy hasn't really panned out for them

2414
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:38,559
Speaker 5: now that the Bills they traded all the way up

2415
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 5: to draft Josh Allen, then they traded a first round

2416
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 5: pick for Stefan Diggs. These are moves that the Patriots

2417
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 5: have not made, and it will not make.

2418
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 4: If it works for the Jets. That's an example of

2419
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 4: what the email is talking about. The Jets have had

2420
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 4: several years of ineptitude, several top ten picks. They finally,

2421
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they've hit on a lot of them, and

2422
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 4: if they have the quarterback now, they'll probably see, you know,

2423
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 4: some success. Yes, that's an example of that they got

2424
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 4: good because they were so bad. But I don't necessarily

2425
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,679
Speaker 4: think the Bills are good right now because they were bad.

2426
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 4: You know in twenty fourteen fifteen, you know, in that

2427
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 4: era or Kansas City, they also were going to the

2428
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 4: playoffs with Tyrod Taylor, much like Kansas City that haven't

2429
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 4: just mentioned was going to the playoffs every year with

2430
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 4: Alex Smith. They got to a different level when they

2431
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 4: got the stud at quarterback.

2432
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: So Alex says, because Paul is a crazy memory, I

2433
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 2: wanted to challenge him to see if he could recall

2434
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 2: drewp LED's those four touchdown performance against the Chargers, name

2435
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 2: how each touchdown pass was scored either by how many

2436
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: yards or by who?

2437
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 3: What do you dance for us? Monkey?

2438
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 4: Wait, First of all, that's a little bit even for me,

2439
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 4: that's a little ridiculous. Really we're talking about.

2440
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: This would be right on the tip of your tongue.

2441
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 4: Well, I need more information. Can I know what Charger

2442
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 4: game we're talking about?

2443
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 2: It was the game they won forty one to seven.

2444
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 4: Okay? Is this at home or on the road?

2445
01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 2: It was probably the one No?

2446
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 4: Six? It was away ninety six, Okay. The ones that

2447
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 4: stands out to me is a one handed catch by

2448
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 4: Terry Glenn on a ball that just proving that I

2449
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 4: am I am nothing but fair. Then drew through a

2450
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 4: terrible ball, so Terry Glenn reached back. One of them

2451
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 4: wasn't one way and he caught it.

2452
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, one was a twenty five yard pass to Terry Glenn.

2453
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 4: I got nothing else for you. I assume one was

2454
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:20,560
Speaker 4: to Ben Coats.

2455
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, Ben COT's four yard pass and then twelve

2456
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 2: yard passed to Sam Gash and a two yard passed

2457
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 2: to Keith Buyers.

2458
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, and I.

2459
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 3: Was at fullbacks get that was?

2460
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 4: That was thanksgivings the h back.

2461
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 5: How could Terry Glenn do that when Bill Parcells didn't

2462
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 5: get the draft them.

2463
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:43,799
Speaker 4: I don't know. That was one handed catch by Glenn

2464
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 4: and he never made another play. Someone was right about him.

2465
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: His name was Bill Pushall.

2466
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: Terry Glenn never made another play.

2467
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 4: Terry Glenn was a colossal disappointment. That's a little harsh.

2468
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:00,719
Speaker 2: He broke the rookie record for with catches.

2469
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 4: Colossal disappointed, the rookie record for quarterback play true.

2470
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, No, but he wasn't a disappointment that homework.

2471
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 4: It's just like who cares who cut the most. Overall,

2472
01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 4: he didn't have a great career. Oh No, he was

2473
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 4: a waste of talent.

2474
01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 2: He was a waste to tell but that he had

2475
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 2: a great year that year he did.

2476
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bill knew what the flags were.

2477
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,440
Speaker 2: Overall, he wasn't He wasn't uh disappointment.

2478
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 4: He was a good player. Oh. I loved Terry Gwinn absolutely,

2479
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 4: but he was not what he was supposed.

2480
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 2: To be No, he could have been so much better now.

2481
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 3: He never got back to ninety, never.

2482
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 4: Reached that potential, but he was always out of the

2483
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 4: lineup because it wasn't that important to him.

2484
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 2: Bill knew a lot of issues. R I p a

2485
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 2: lot of issues. That's right, Peter writes in Can't Wait

2486
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: for the Draft shows, he died, gott he died. As

2487
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 2: others have said, they are my favorite shows, so we

2488
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 2: get so much content. I enjoyed Eric getting upset and

2489
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 2: then shutting down, but when Paul was not sold on.

2490
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 4: Solder Evan will be ready to shut it down.

2491
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: I enjoyed Mike's absolute disappearance from the first draft show.

2492
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that he liked that. I was just

2493
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 2: watching even tomorrow from last year, having so many chances

2494
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 2: for the team to pick her guys and they never did.

2495
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm a bit of a weirdo and wait to listen

2496
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 2: to the podcast the day after. I checked to see

2497
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: who the Patriot's a picked. Usually it's someone terrible or unexpected.

2498
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 2: There is nothing better than hearing the disappointment in all

2499
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: of you guys where the pick is made, then some

2500
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 2: of you managed to pretend you're happy about the pick.

2501
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I won't say who can't wait.

2502
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 4: My favorite draft tradition is Fred's disappointment followed by the

2503
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 4: next night excitement.

2504
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 2: Well then I go home and I, you know, do

2505
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 2: my and then I come back and I tell you

2506
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: why it.

2507
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 4: Was a good checks.

2508
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 5: Please don't tell me that. Please don't tell me you

2509
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 5: talk yourself into cal strange.

2510
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 4: He had a hard time with that. Yeah, no, we

2511
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 4: gotta draw the line.

2512
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, I still say that I don't mind

2513
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: them taking a guard because they need one. But not there,

2514
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 2: not there. You could have had him later or someone

2515
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 2: of his Yeah, John, and Denver writes in time is

2516
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 2: it because we got Catch twenty two coming up right

2517
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: Tuesday Special Tuesday edition of Catch twenty two. I flipped

2518
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: back and forth on if the Patriot should draft Levis.

2519
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: At first I thought he was a second t bow

2520
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: and wanted no part of him. Then I wanted him

2521
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 2: when I remembered that scene from Moneyball where one of

2522
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 2: the scouts at the roundtable says a player can't be

2523
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 2: good because his girlfriend is six is a six at best,

2524
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 2: and that proves he has no confidence. If you follow

2525
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: this line of thinking, Will has all the confidence in

2526
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 2: the world and gonna hot girlfriend. But I recently learned

2527
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 2: Will Levis eats bananas without peeling them, money and puts

2528
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: mayo in his coffee. Certified psychopath, and I want nothing

2529
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: to do with that level of crazy.

2530
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 5: Finally, that's the exact kind of crazy that makes people.

2531
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 2: I heard about that and coffee and just eat the skin.

2532
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 5: And all, and Tom Brady ate avocado ice cream. They're

2533
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 5: all a little crazy.

2534
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 2: Finally, the NFL Twitter account posted a photo of his

2535
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: physical transformation, and I had deuced Derek Henry. I had

2536
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,480
Speaker 2: aduced Derek Henry moment, and his stature is insane. In

2537
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 2: the end, I have no idea what to think about

2538
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: looking forward to the always great draft shows. Thanks for

2539
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 2: the great shows, but looking forward to more off season

2540
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 2: talk coming soon.

2541
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 7: Okay, great, I mean I don't want to build it

2542
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 7: up too much, but I think that this one.

2543
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 3: I think this potential they could get dark. We could

2544
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 3: be in a dark place.

2545
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:46,879
Speaker 4: Potential.

2546
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 2: Let's remember you're on live radio.

2547
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 3: That's being fed directly into the Patrio's drafts.

2548
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 4: Well, good for you. That will be off video by

2549
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 4: that time.

2550
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, because then I can like give myself a

2551
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 5: second to collect myself self if it's really as bad

2552
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 5: as it might be. And then like you guys can talk,

2553
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 5: you know, and give your reactions and then I'll collect it.

2554
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 3: Is it too late to effort? And Evan iso Cam

2555
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 3: maybe we get like that they just that like you know,

2556
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 3: the slow zoom speeds of sweat.

2557
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 5: But the thing is is I really mean that I

2558
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 5: do it out of love, like because I want them

2559
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 5: to be good, and so when they do stuff that

2560
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 5: I can't get behind, then that it's disappointment.

2561
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 4: It's that's true like that. I think that was Eric's

2562
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 4: big problem because I think Eric would morph back into

2563
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 4: like twelve year old Eric. Yeah and yeah, really be excited, and.

2564
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 5: That's what the draft brings out of it more so

2565
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 5: than this will be disappointment.

2566
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 4: And I really think that was part of Eric's anger.

2567
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 2: But to me, it was just it was laughable because

2568
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 2: if there's one person who really shouldn't be second guessing anybody.

2569
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 4: It's Eric.

2570
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: You know, I really a guard.

2571
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 4: Oh that was such an unnecessary shot that I would

2572
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 4: just been.

2573
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 2: But I like Evan at least he puts the work in.

2574
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's working tirelessly, so he has informed opinion.

2575
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 4: You know, But that's what makes it. That's all on

2576
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 4: the radio.

2577
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 5: I agree with the most of that, except that he's

2578
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:21,400
Speaker 5: lost my trust.

2579
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:25,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm sure he's lost sleep with that.

2580
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 5: He probably hasn't but talked to me when he hits

2581
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 5: on a first round.

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Speaker 2: Paying I could just see all access. So behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes in the Patriots war room. And so what's our

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Speaker 2: kids saying? We'll take care.

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Speaker 4: Might be right every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. Yeah, I got things to do. Catch

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Speaker 2: twenty two, though the fund doesn't stop. More draft talk

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Speaker 2: another two hours. Alex Barth and Evan coming up next Thursday.

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