1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: The old zippity dude dunkarou after that. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, just watching this on film Masterpiece and he's 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: got a bunch of pitches that players cannot hit right. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Now, who real life? Doing a show every day? Sometimes 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: it's pouring and people don't know how to drive. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: That's everything. What's up especially here? Yeah? 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: Especially here? Yeah? Well are they not in a rush? 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: So just walk just walked in, just trying to be 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: real with the people. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: Walk in, sit down and let's talk. Yeah, that's it, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm here. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: What are you pointing that? 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: Oh? Oh no, No, I was just looking at my 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: watch to make sure we started on time. I mean, well, 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: we got a pitch clock and everything. This is gonna 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: be my show. You didn't show up, Scott, this is 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: gonna be my opening. It was gonna be me and Todd. 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: We were gonna take this show to the moon. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: If it was one o'clock and I'm not here, best 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: of luck to you. 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: With him, you could have just just kept going back 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: home and you know, let's let's see what they. 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: Got, let me test them out. Aj Sometimes you know, 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: because because I'm sitting next to him a lot, he 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: sometimes gets a little Testy and. 27 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I could do it. 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Mmm, you're lucky he's not 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: on today bout territory shop dot com. Go get after it. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: I know many people have asked us for a while. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Now I want more options. I want this, I want that. 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: We tried to take as much feedback as possible. Let 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: us know what else you want, and we'll do our 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: best to make it happen. We've got a new little setup, 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: so we're able to swing things together a little bit quicker. 56 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Now perfect. 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm pumped about it. 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: All right. 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: Now, let's actually talk about something that got tested yesterday. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: Let's charge the damn maund Walker Buehler got tossed in 61 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: the third eting of yesterday's contest between the Red Sox 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: and the Mets. Mets are like, all right, here we go. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: We got Bueller out of the game. Well, they still 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: fell in the contest. Red Sox put together a nice 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: pitching performance. I would like to show the beefiest part 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: of what happened here, which comes after the game and 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: involves Walker tweeting he's one of the few players who 68 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: will put it out there on Twitter Bueller's day off. 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: Did you see this? 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: I did see a little bit of it. I did 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: say I didn't see all of it. But maybe I 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: did see the whole thing. Yeah, they were going with this. Yeah, 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: who is this guy? By the way, is this just 74 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: a random dude Jordan Moore? Yeah, anyone else? 75 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: Blue check doesn't mean anything anymore, all right, So random 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: dude and Jordan, if you're somebody that I'm missing, then 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: please let me know. The corniest part of the Buehler 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: ejection wasn't Lindor leaning into a pitch before like a loser. 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: Let's not nice. He talked bleep, screaming and rooting for 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: the ejection. That part's true, big loser energy. Weren't a 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: fastball to the back. Tomar. If I'm the Red Sox Kratz, 82 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: Bueller replies, I wouldn't want me out there either. Sad 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: thing is the bullpen is full of bleeping animals. Tough choice. 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was a whole thread. This is 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: a whole thread. There was a lot going on Walkerhead 86 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: some excited fingers to get onto the Twitter game and 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: his Instagram game. But that, to me, that's the biggest thing. 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: We'll break down what the umpire did, But to me, 89 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: what's Lindor? Why is Lindor barking at him like so 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: excited Lindor literally did lean in to get hit by 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 4: the pitch. Now, it didn't hit his knee. I think 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: Bueller thought it hit his knee, but it hit him 93 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: in the toe. So Bueller was already hot. And then 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: balls down the middle. But why why is Lindor, Why 95 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: is Lindor trying to get him out of the game. 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: I'm confused by his reaction on second base in that 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: in that situation. 98 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean. 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: The moment of the game, Lindor throwing throwing some theatrics 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: out there. You know, he one of those things where 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: maybe he just into it. I throw him out, get 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: him out. I listen the pictures right down the plate. 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: He had every right to say something. Maybe maybe Bueller 104 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: could have said it in a different way, like hey man, 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: you know I had that right down the plate. You 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: know he he got after him a little bit. And 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: then esther Brook, as an umpire does, wants to be 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: shown on TV like usual. Just let him get his 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: his voice out there, talk something back and move on. 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: Like I can't stand that he went forward to make 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: sure he was seen so he could bark back on 112 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: whatever happened to an argument and people going at it 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: with each other you know, I can't Scott call me, 114 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: call me old fashioned? 115 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: But what happened to the guy that used to beat 116 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: each other? The beak of the brother used to bah 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: blah blah, Like. 118 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: Now that's contact, that's like a suspension. 119 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just no, I don't know. I don't 120 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: was walk or wrong he was, don't get me wrong. 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: But man, let the guy get his point across. You 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: missed the calls right down in the darn plate, Like, 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: come on, man, geez. 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: If you if you leave your position to argue a call, 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: If you leave your position to argue a call, you're ejected. 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: Why is an umpire not being held responsible for leaving 127 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: his position? He doesn't need all he did. Originally, all 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: he did was he came out and he said, get 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: back on the mound because you know, it's speed up 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 4: the game. He set his piece, get back on the mound. 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: He doesn't need to walk out in front of home 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 4: plate pull his mask off like their needs to me, 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: it can't be. It can't be just a one way street. 134 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: It can't just be oh the picture. Should he have 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: said what he said? Absolutely not, But he didn't say you. 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: He said it was right down the middle he didn't 137 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: say you missed it, he didn't say uf and he 138 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 4: did curse, so he should have been gone. But who's 139 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: escalated by Esterbrook? He can't, Like, you can't just how 140 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: you expect a player in the heat of a moment, 141 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: especially a pitcher who plays once every five days, and 142 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: those dudes get wound up tight when they're ready to pitch, 143 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: How do you expect him to just be like, Oh, okay, 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: that's fine, I'll go back to the mound. No chance 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: that dude would get shelled if you would see that. 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: Not a chance that's gonna happen. Esterbrook escalated it to me, Bueller, 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: Yes he got kicked out. There should be no fine. 148 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: But major League Baseball won't won't have the spine to 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 4: stand behind the player. 150 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Crats. I'm gonna let everyone in on a little secret. 151 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: I am not a fan of carrying around physical cash. 152 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: I go cash app, where you can send, receive, or 153 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: transfer money with family and friends. It's super easy. They 154 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: got your back to Like, if you're trying to send 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: some money and you maybe put in the wrong account name, 156 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: they'll be like, hey, this is a sketchy account. 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Come on, 173 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: come on, And it was like, what is Bueller supposed 174 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: to do? What is Bueller supposed to do in that situation? 175 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: Not say a word. I don't condone the language he used, 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: but I do condone talking numpires because if you don't, 177 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: it's like in basketball, if you don't ever complain about fouls, 178 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: your team's never gonna get calls in your favor that 179 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: ball was missed. Esterbrooks should understand that he should not 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 4: escalate the situation, but he did. And to me, Bueller, 181 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: he has to have self control. I get it, But. 182 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: That's a good call. You can say whatever you want. 183 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: But in all levels of hoops, if you have combos, 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: nice combos with refs, it's not going to hurt, you know, 185 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: unless you tick the ref off. 186 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: Right. 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: But if they don't think you care and you don't 188 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: point anything out ever, I mean, you played pretty good 189 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: high school hoops, then they're just gonna leave everything alone. 190 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: They're still human beings, right, So if you go to 191 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: them and you're just like, hey, doing a great job. 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: Just want to let you know, like this dude's you know, 193 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: he's pinching me every time I go into the lane. 194 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: He's just pinching me. Then he's gonna look because he's 195 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: a human being, and if he sees the pinch, he's 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: going to be. 197 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Like, get that, get that out of here. 198 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: It's a weird, weird example, but it happened. 199 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: It does it does. They're both in the wrong there. 200 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Put it this way. 201 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: Punishment for esterbrook if Bueller has to pay a fine. 202 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: He's not going to get a PUSUREM nothing. We don't 203 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: have to go down there. 204 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: There'll be a combo. There will be a combo. I 205 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: will tell you this just from knowing some people that 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: oversee the Umps, like Joe Tory for a while and 207 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: is it my kill? 208 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: Now? 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: They will call him krats and they will say, hey, 210 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: come on now. After that, I don't know because they 211 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: have a union too, and that depends on the byelines 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: of what they've got going on. But really, in today's world, 213 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: if you want to stop that stuff, he's got to 214 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: get seated and not get paid for a series. 215 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: That that's that's a that's a lot to me. If 216 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: it's a he needs to have a warning, and if 217 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 4: it's something that continually happens, then we start sitting because 218 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, that's his livelihood. But we just can't. We 219 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: can't have umpires escalating a situation. And if you watch 220 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 4: all of Korra's mannerisms and everything through that, you saw 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: how much this bullpen needed Bueller to go. At least 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: five or six he was running out there and he's like, 223 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: oh man, He's like, how can you throw them out? 224 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: Like now? And then he's on the bench and he 225 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 4: ended up getting their home runs selly, making their new 226 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: home run selly because he ripped the door off the 227 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: bullpen phone. And the rest of the game they were 228 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: just holding up the bullpen phone and every time somebody 229 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: hit a homer they tapped the bullpen phone like it 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: just says bullpen and it's the case on the outside. 231 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 4: It was tremendous. 232 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: It was great theater and kind of button it up. 233 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: If we're talking about the umpire, they should be talked 234 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: to about. You know, why didn't he call it a strike? 235 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: That would be the conversation because maybe he got blocked, 236 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: but it looked like he did have a view because 237 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: it was on the right side of the catcher. But yeah, 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: that made for good, good fun little game there, you know, 239 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: and afterwards too with the smack talking. So remember they 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: got one more game today, so we'll see how it goes. 241 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I g Bueler was like bullpen full of savages, 242 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: brutal way to come back in horrendous spot to put 243 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: those boys in, but huge team win. I'll be better. 244 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he owes those guys a little gift or something. 245 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but also you want that kind of guy on 246 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: your team. 247 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, but you also want him to go 248 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: five plus and get to win, and they did. 249 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: Don't forget how they want The Dodgers won the World 250 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: Series last year, who wasn't even supposed to pitch, and 251 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: they were like, he goes, yeah, right, give me the ball. 252 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. How do you not want that guy? 253 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: You want them? 254 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want the guy that on the team bus 255 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: on the way to the ballpark telling the manager I 256 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: want to pitch. Texting with the GM right, he was 257 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: doing all kinds of things just to try and be 258 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: like I am legitimately available, and they're kind of laughing 259 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: at him, and then later in the game they're like, 260 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: all right, yeah, actually, let's go take him up on 261 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: this offer and win a World Series. So you gotta 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 3: love it. That's why he's walker, bleep and bueller, that's 263 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: what they say. And lastly, Kratz to go back to 264 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: what you're talking about with the celebration. That should be 265 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: the celebration for them for the rest of the year. 266 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I know they're doing what the Wally Wally helmet. 267 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: This is it, this is it. This is like a 268 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: winning selly. The other one is cute. I think this 269 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: should be the one you come back to the dugout, 270 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: you pound the dugout phone and say we're going for 271 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: the jugular today every day? Do you agree? 272 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: Because it reminds you every time you see bullpen, it 273 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 4: reminds you that some dudes had to wear it that night. 274 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: They had to come out and wear it, and it 275 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: wasn't just well, you know, we throw whoever out there. 276 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: They wore it and Chapman closed it out. So if 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: you're like I'm grinding on the day game, I'm looking 278 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: at that bullpen door that Cora definitely needs to sign. 279 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: Alex needs to put his signature behind it because he 280 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: was the one that ripped it off and that needs 281 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: to be the selly. It's something that like motivates the 282 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 4: dudes like, all right, well I'm gonna get up because 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: the boys picked us up that one day. It just 284 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: reminds guys of a hard fought win against a really 285 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: good Mets team who's not playing great right now, but 286 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: still the team. 287 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Yes, beautiful thing. 288 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: You want something, though, would you say, next day I'll 289 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: make boys. 290 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna be shirts the next day. 291 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: Wally mascot out shirts and we're doing the dugout phone 292 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: from here on. 293 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Uh, there's gonna be the manager there, ready to freaking 294 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: punch a phone with that says what does it say 295 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: on the top of the phone bullpen or whatever it is? 296 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Bullpen Yeah, bullpen, Yeah, just bullpen him in the bullpen, right, 297 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: they'll be sure it's tomorrow. I would have him done 298 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow and people would be buying them left right. 299 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because this team's been okay. Talking about the Red Sox, 300 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: they're twenty five and twenty five, I think most people 301 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: expected more from them at this point, but you could 302 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: still see them take off. It's not they've been okay. 303 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: They've got Crochet going tonight too, so they're'll be just fine. 304 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: They're in a good spot. They're four and a half 305 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: back of the first place Yankees, but obviously very much 306 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: involved in a conversation, whether it's for the division or 307 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: for a wild card, and I think most people expect 308 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: them to be contending the entire season, which for the 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: Red Sox is actually something that hasn't been the case 310 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: the last few years. So they're kind of back. They're 311 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: back at least to contending, which is good. Hey, by 312 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: the way, I just saw this news popping up every 313 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: online now. Dan Wilson, manager of the Mariners, who are 314 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: playing pretty well so far this year. He announces Thursday, 315 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: which is tomorrow. George Kirby pitching. 316 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah me. 317 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: Too, Okay, good, thank you. I feel like I'm on 318 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm kind of locked in enough. But 319 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 4: then I'm like, well, you know what, maybe it's three 320 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: hour delay my news feed all that stuff. I didn't 321 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: see it coming. I thought it was gonna be the 322 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: beginning of June. 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: Here we go, baby. So yeah, the Mariners will finish 324 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: up one more against the White Sox today, right, they're playing, 325 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: I think coming up in like twenty minutes. They lost yesterday, 326 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: by the way, but hey whatever, I'll give them credit. 327 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: They won the day before, they swept the Padres. They 328 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: destroyed the Padres. This past weekend they swept him good. 329 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: But then this will be a good series coming up 330 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: for the extended weekend. You've got Kirby against mccullors on Thursday. 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: It's fun for the names and the Kirby return. Mccullors 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: recently back Emerson Hancock against Ryan Gusto on Friday. More 333 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: of to prove it, guys, and then Saturday is Brian 334 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: Wu against Franber Valdez. That's good stuff right there. And 335 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: they play Sunday. Castillo's schedule for the Mans. I'm not 336 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: sure if they have a TVD for the Astros, but hey, 337 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: this helps. This is good timing Crats to get Kirby back, 338 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: not just for the rotation, but for the bullpen too. 339 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they'll, baby, they'll ease him back in, 340 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: I said, baby, but eventually it'll be helpful for the bullpen. 341 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: Kirby's a guy that can get all the punch outs, 342 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 4: or he can go innings. Sometimes he in the punch outs. 343 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Be ready. 344 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: It's a good one. It's a good one. Yeah, I'm 345 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: a big fan the Angels. The Angels is three and 346 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: a half out behind the Mariners right now. The vision 347 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: is crazy. 348 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: They can't lose. I mean, I'm with you. 349 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 4: I'm not a believer. 350 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: They're twenty two and twenty five. We were like, oh, 351 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: the A's they look kind of good. The A's are 352 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty seven. They're two worse than the 353 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: lost column after falling again yesterday, blowing up my bet. 354 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, your bets are tough. 355 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're tough. 356 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: They're tough. 357 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm not the same, but the Angels sweep the Dodgers 358 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: in well whatever in la in real la non nana 359 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: lah Yeah. John Hayman tweeted this morning Pirates source Paul 360 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: Skeens is not getting traded. Quote no chance, no way, 361 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: no how is the way I heard it. While there's 362 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: a bit of logic to such a scenario, superstars just 363 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: aren't traded by anyone with one year service time, and 364 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 3: the Pirates remain determined to build around Skeens. This is 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: what I've been saying all along, is sure will he 366 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: could he get traded? 367 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 368 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Now it's so early, you're not going to let this 369 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: go for at least a couple more years. I mean, 370 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: ardy Moreno, wouldn't even trade show Hee Tani with two 371 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: months of him left to spare? Right, he is a 372 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: money machine, Skeens on Skeen's day is a money machine. 373 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: Even with the Pirates being bad, you at least get 374 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: a little bit more. You can sell sponsorships around him. Krats, 375 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: He's not stupid. Bob Nutting's not going to trade him 376 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: with four or five years left. With two years left 377 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: in a different GM, maybe saying this could change everything 378 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: for us. Sure, Now, no. 379 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 4: Look at the hall. Look at the hall that the 380 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 4: Nationals got for Juan Soto. They're calling up shoot, I'm 381 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: forgetting his name. They're calling him up soon. He's like 382 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: the fourth piece of that of the wan. 383 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: So jarln or Susannah, you're talking about the net. 384 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, now. 385 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: There's hassles, Yeah, hassle, and Susannah's good and hassle and 386 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: then obviously Wood and Abrams are nice returns. 387 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: You're talking about four pieces. Don't forget Mackenzie Gore's in 388 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: there too, like you're talking about four pieces of now 389 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 4: on a big league team. If you say the Nationals 390 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: are kind of moving in that direction, if you're the Pirates, 391 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: what could you get for a Paul Skins? To me, 392 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: there's no no way, no how. You're not spending money. 393 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: You're looking to make money off of this guy. So 394 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: this to me, if they don't ever even think about 395 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: trading him, think about getting an absolute haul for him, 396 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: because Jared Jones just went down. Now you don't have 397 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: another piece of that rotation. You sit there and you go, 398 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 4: they really don't want to win. You proved to us 399 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: they don't want to win you don't need an ace 400 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: of your staff for three years of non contention. 401 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: Scott, you need to check out this Roeback hoodie I have. 402 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: It's eighty five plus degrees here in Florida. Look lightweight, 403 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: feels great, cool colors perfect for those hot Florida days. 404 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: I agree, aj color looks fire and you can get 405 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: your own sweatshirt polo hoodie. Go check out Roeback and 406 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: if you do in your first time customer rowback dot 407 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: com using the code foul gets you twenty percent off 408 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: your first purchase. R HO B A c K dot 409 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: com code f o U L get after at ftfan 410 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: how corner Let's says, well, Yamamoto is the savior of 411 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: the Dodgers rotation right now. Carried a no into the seventh, 412 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: ended up with seven shutty, one hit. 413 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: And unheard of seven innings. 414 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: Nine strikeouts. I know he raised down to one eight 415 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: to six through his first ten starts of the season, 416 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: and he had given up what eight runs over his 417 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: last eleven innings, so he read, and that included the 418 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: clunker against the Diamondbacks two weeks ago. 419 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: That would imagine they start to go, imagine that. 420 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: They don't give him a lot of brunt support either. 421 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: So he's pitching in tight games most of the time. 422 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: He's this is a monster pickup here, this guy basically 423 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for him on the mound here, I mean, 424 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: this is like an auto win, now, Cratzy. I mean, listen, 425 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: he goes on the mound given six to seven plus 426 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: each time, he's been fantastic. His fastball is working really well, 427 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: and there you go the old zippity dude dunkarou after. 428 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, just watching this on film masterpiece and he's 429 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: got a bunch of pitches that players cannot hit right now. 430 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And with that, I do want to mention this Kratz. 431 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: He deals the Diamondbacks tied the game up against big 432 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: money man tan Or Scott Gabriel Moreno has three homers 433 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: this year, they're all against the Dodgers. And then you 434 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: had Corbyn Carrol's homer in extras. Thought maybe they're going 435 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: to take another one and that would be a steal 436 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 3: of a dub. Dodgers came back tied it up Munsey 437 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: with the sackfly walk off. But that's what I'm talking about. 438 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: That's a good game. You know, we're back to talking 439 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: a little more about the Dodgers again, But that was 440 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: a really fun late night contest to watch last night. 441 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: Oh totally. And the Dodgers are kind of reeling right now. 442 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 4: They needed a start like this from Ylomono. But the 443 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: biggest thing for me was the adjustment he made from 444 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: the last start against Arizona. There's also a thing it 445 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: was in Arizona. I want to see what happen next 446 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: time he throws in Arizona, see if something wasn't working well. 447 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 4: To me his last start, he wasn't throwing that splitter 448 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: down and out of the zone enough to the point 449 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: where he was able to locate his heater. So maybe 450 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: it was the mound. Maybe he just wasn't feeling it 451 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: that day. For me, it's about how does Yamamoto get 452 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: through an entire season healthy and still be the top 453 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: of this rotation coming into the playoffs. And unfortunately, like 454 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 4: like Todd said, he's the guy like he's almost like 455 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: an automatic win. You're only looking at twenty five starts 456 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 4: out of this guy. That's just the track record. That 457 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: is what the Dodgers are looking at. So your automatic 458 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: win all of a sudden goes out the window because 459 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: he has to skip a start, then the next you know, 460 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: three rotations through, he's got to skip another start or 461 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: do they let him run and see where they are 462 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: at the end of the season. I don't think they're 463 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: gonna do that. 464 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 3: I mean, at some point you gotta have Snell Glass 465 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: now hopefully back in the second half, helping to pick 466 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: up some slack with innings. 467 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they have a bunch of these pieces. They 468 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: just need them to come back. 469 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's shoulders shoulders. Man. 470 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: If they can get Snow going, I mean, I mean, 471 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: whoever comes back, it's a plus. It's not like you know, 472 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: Aircrats is coming back. 473 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a good pitching numbers, but. 474 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: He couldn't gone spot. 475 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 4: But yeah, I could throw forever. Just ask guys on 476 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: the team. I can throw forever. You just don't want 477 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 4: me out. There's a lot of runs scoring. But they 478 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: need you, Scott. Your hesitation right there was like they 479 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: need innings. This is crazy that we're talking about this. 480 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 4: The Dodgers need innings And I'm not saying that's why Tanner. 481 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 4: Scott gave up a home run to an MVP candidate 482 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: and Corbyn Carroll, who at the time I think was 483 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: like two for twenty four against the Dodgers going into 484 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: that last at bat. But you sit there, you go, 485 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 4: what is who is gonna throw us our innings? Because 486 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: you just can't have You can't have guys just take 487 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: big league innings the entire season and then go, oh 488 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 4: neat Blake, Snell, Tyler Glass, Snell, Yoshinobu Yellomoto are all 489 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: pitching our first three games of the playoffs like it 490 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 4: rarely works out that way. So they need guys to 491 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 4: keep their bullpen healthy by throwing more than four innings. 492 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: Yep, fair, I want to ask you baseball. He question 493 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: Kratz and watching the game last night, and Earl Hirschheiser 494 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 3: brought up how Yamamoto doesn't want the glove to just 495 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: be set up in a in an area or a direction. 496 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: He wants precision. So he said, Will Smith will set 497 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: up for him almost exactly where he wants it. Obviously, 498 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 3: you don't want to set up too early if someone's 499 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: on second and get you location taken. But wanted to 500 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: get your thoughts on that because they talked about it. 501 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: I think they were hitting a break soon and they did. 502 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: That was the nasty buckler, the one that he looked 503 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: at that he located right before that. Herscheiser's talking about 504 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: how he wants like the precision spot. So oh, I'm 505 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: just curious how many guys were like that. And I know, 506 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you spent a little bit of time with 507 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: the Rays. Their whole thing is, hey, we're just gonna 508 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: set you up down the middle and let your stuff 509 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: play around. But what do you think of the way 510 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: that Yamamoto asks his catcher to give me the exact spot. 511 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and nail it, and obviously it's on 512 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: a corner. 513 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Usually I love it. 514 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 4: I've argued about this since the all the pitch framing 515 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: metrics have come in. In my opinion, if your pitchers 516 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: aren't aiming small to miss small, then it's gonna be 517 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: larger missus. And as soon as you get into the 518 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: larger misses. Everywhere where you're throwing a pitch into, like 519 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: the nice zones where you can throw into to stay 520 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 4: away from their hot zones. They're directly located right next 521 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: to the hot zones for a hitter. So if a 522 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 4: guy hammers the ball down and in, he probably chases 523 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: farther down and in. So you have to be able 524 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: to make sure these guys are throwing to the exact 525 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: location that you want. And to me, you need to 526 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: have pinpoint accuracy. And it starts with a good target. Now, 527 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: all that's out the window when you see I have 528 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: my met here. When you see guys nowadays, because I 529 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: was told, I was told in my last few years, oh, 530 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where you put your mint, not by pictures, 531 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 4: because I would ask individual pictures and they'd be like, no, 532 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: I definitely need to see your mint. But guys do 533 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 4: this when they go, they flash it and then they 534 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: go whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Glove's going everywhere before 535 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 4: the pitch. And I was told, straight to my face, 536 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: pitchers don't throw to the glove, just ask them. I 537 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: was like, at that point, I had eighteen years of 538 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: base of playing professional baseball, and I had never heard that. 539 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: And it's the rhetoric that is pushed now. And to me, 540 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: a guy like Yamamoto, and this might be like a 541 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: gross generalization because I'm bringing up one of the best Japanese, 542 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: if not the best Japanese pitcher I ever caught. Masa 543 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: Hero Tanaka would do the exact same thing. We would 544 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: go to a scouting report and the one I remember 545 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 4: is Freddie Freeman. He's like, I found this weird, weird 546 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: stat that Freddy Freeman sucks at sliders or cutters up 547 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 4: in the zone. And I'm like, Masa, we are not 548 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: throwing sliders up in his owne. Those are hangers. He's like, 549 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: I think it'll be a good idea. He's like, I 550 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: want to try it. So we did it. He goes, 551 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: but make sure you're mitt is exactly where we need 552 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: to throw it. And I was like, okay. And Japanese 553 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: pitchers refine their mechanics so intricately that they repeat it 554 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: over and over again. They can dot a gnats behind 555 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: anytime they want with the pitchers that with the pitches 556 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: that they want. And he went out that game and flummixed, 557 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: absolutely twisted Freddy Freeman's scattered report. He was just like, huh, 558 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: struck them out twice. He ended up putting a danger 559 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: later in the game against against Greeny against Chad green 560 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: But it wasn't muscle on the mound anymore. So that 561 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: kind of thing. It does happen, and some guys need 562 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: that precision location. 563 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. How come we can't get more of that, 564 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: Like you're explaining this for a couple of Japanese players. 565 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: How come that's not more of a normal thing, Like 566 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: do you think it's a Japanese pro baseball cultural thing 567 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: that leads to this. Yeah. 568 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: Very mechanical, very mechanical. They don't have they don't have 569 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: a toddfather going. Sometimes you just gotta go out there 570 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: and swing it and swing it dog like. They're very 571 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: balanced oriented. Everything is mechanical, Everything is repeated from a 572 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: young age. And I think they're coaching coaches that more. 573 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: I think here strictly talking about pitching, guys are taught 574 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: exactly what Eno just said. You ain't making You ain't 575 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: getting drafted unless you throw ninety six ninety seven in 576 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: the first round. What kids like, I'd love to be 577 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 4: a tenth to fifteenth rounder. No, every kid is chasing velocity. 578 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: They hit their pr they throw ninety one miles an hour. 579 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 4: They're like, I'm buying heavy balls and throwing them into 580 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: a wall ten feet in front of me. Here we go. 581 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 4: Not I'm gonna I'm gonna just absolutely iron out my 582 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: mechanics perfect so that I can put the ball exactly 583 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 4: where I want it. There's not one. There's not one 584 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 4: pitching guru on Twitter, on Instagram that's putting videos out 585 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: there of like, here's how you refine your mechanics. No, 586 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: it's here's how you throw a ball without looking at 587 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 4: it and watch the radar gun explode. 588 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: That's true. 589 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: Like even the other day, I saw Noah's Cinderguard video 590 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: with him just doing one of those running throws. 591 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: And they're like, running, go, it's a running gun. 592 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: Running gun. 593 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 594 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: Running. They're like, oh, okay, I got it. 595 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: It's Ratrick. 596 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's theatrics in Japan, krats. 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: Right. 598 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: If you have no command, like, you're going to get 599 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: seriously burned, right, they're going to say, yep, not for 600 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: us here. If you have no command, They're like, we 601 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: might be able to get enough command that this will play. 602 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just had you know. 603 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: Cyrus on the show earlier. Right, some of those guys 604 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 3: with their stuff plus numbers look fantastic, and their eras 605 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: look pooh pooh. 606 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: The way selling this this right here, Yeah, this right 607 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: here might change the game. The challenge system. If guys 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: are able to truly command balls might change the game 609 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: because we're not going to get those calls wrong. We're 610 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: going to be able to as pitcheon coaches say, don't nibble, 611 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: don't nip, We're gonna be able to nibble. It's not 612 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 4: just going to be your stuff versus my stuff. 613 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: That's cool. Okay, let's take one other turn here Sho 614 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: heo tani rehab update, this one from Fabien Ardaya. Dave 615 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: Roberts doesn't have a date for him to start facing hitters, 616 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: but he incorporated breaking balls into his black round session today. 617 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: A mother step forward for him because I know he 618 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: had a pen session last weekend, but there still were 619 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: no breaking balls. So now we at least have of 620 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: flat ground breaking balls. Maybe next step is bullpen session 621 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: breaking balls. Already got the fastball and the splitter. So 622 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: this is the slowest rehab progress of all time. 623 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Listen, it's slow. 624 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: It's just what we talked about the Japanese. 625 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: They take their time. I'm not saying, you know, that's 626 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: what the Dodgers want or. 627 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: They hurt a billion and it's been heard. 628 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: So let's take it slow. Take another week, take another month, 629 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: let's go. Let's they'll be fine. They want to make 630 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: sure he's hun even if he's not a hundred Well, 631 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 2: even things could go away, but they know they crossed 632 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: and checked off everything and went back and checked their 633 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: work at double time. And I think this is a 634 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: great idea. 635 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: You know, the Dodgers have had like a slower time 636 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: period here. What they're about five hundred ish May. If 637 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: the Padres were still on a heater and they were 638 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: like five six games up, crats. No, I'm not saying 639 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: they're going, all right, you're back tomorrow, but I wonder 640 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: if they're just like they're like Saturday, or they're like 641 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: no breakers yet. Let's get some breakers involved in the 642 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: pen session. We don't have to wait a month to 643 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: get breaking balls into his bullpen sessions. 644 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: No, not yet, No, no, no, not happening. 645 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 4: Not happened. We're talking about him playing catch. He knows 646 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: how to pitch. I bet there's some backup catchers that 647 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 4: have thrown as many flag rounds as Shohy has already. 648 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: They're taking his time, their time. 649 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: Injury suck. You know, we do this once or twice 650 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: a week. I don't want to be too depressed. It's 651 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: middle of the week. But this is a big name 652 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: last year in the rotation for the Pirates and we 653 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: haven't seen him yet. And I don't know if we'll 654 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: see him the rest of the year. Jared Jones is 655 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: getting surgery in his right elbow. No specific details on 656 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: what the surgery is, and it's happening today. I don't 657 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: know if we've had any updates since then. But elbow surgery, youngster, 658 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: you can usually do the math not good. 659 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: So I mean interrupt, I'm sorry. 660 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: He was injured, right, they didn't do surgery. 661 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: He was injured cratzy right or wrong. 662 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: So he's been injured for a while. 663 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is out for the rest of the year, 664 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: by the way. 665 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: So to start the year and we're in May. I 666 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: mean it's been what give or take to and change months, right, 667 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean was it in spring training? 668 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well it was in spring training. He came 669 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: back in late April, not to the big league mound, 670 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: but to throwing didn't go well. 671 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: So it's been about two months I mean two months 672 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: that he could have been rehabbing right now. This is 673 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: my problem with some doctors, And I'm not telling them 674 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: what to do or not. I know the people they 675 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: could come back do all this rehabbing and they'll be fine. 676 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: That to me, that's I don't know. I don't see 677 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: it happening too often, and they I'm not all right, 678 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: it's two months, don't get me wrong, But the guy 679 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: had a problem and now all of a sudden it's 680 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: they're getting surgery. That just boggles my mind a little bit, 681 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: that's all. I feel bad for the kid because I 682 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: really like him. 683 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 684 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 3: AJ's on the same page as you. He'll say this 685 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 3: sometimes when you get to that point, just get the surgery. Yeah, 686 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 3: just kidding, right, But I mean usually the teams are 687 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,959 Speaker 3: trying to see whatever rest and rehab. Everyone nowadays says, 688 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: oh and you hear PRP. It's like, okay, cool, So 689 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: he's going to do the PRP. Then he's going to 690 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 3: wait another at whatever amount of months. 691 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: Feel I'm not going to I don't know if you 692 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: have problebody. 693 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: If this is TJ. Kratz, which is most likely the case, 694 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: we're looking at twenty twenty seven. It's almost June with 695 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: the timetable for a young starter, he's not back till 696 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. So now again, if you're a Pirates fan, 697 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 3: we're going, okay, we currently suck. We are not allowed 698 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: to buy significant free agent pieces, and we're missing what 699 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: our number two, our second or third best starter in 700 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: the rotation. So Bubba Chandler will come up at some 701 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: point this year. Hopefully he's good. He looks really damn 702 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: good as a prospect. You've got schemes going, but you're 703 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 3: missing Jones, right, Oh yeah. 704 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 4: We're supposed to add to that. You're missing Jones. You're 705 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: missing it. They can't and when he comes back, because 706 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 4: he will be fully quote fully healthy in twenty twenty seven, 707 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 4: Paul Skenes will already have three years of service under 708 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 4: his belt. Now he's becoming expensive in arbitration, a Rookie 709 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 4: of the year, He's going to be a cy young 710 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 4: candidate at least one of the three years. And Jared 711 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 4: Jones hasn't thrown more than one hundred and twenty innings 712 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: during that time. Like, it is hard to keep guys 713 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: healthy on the mound. It's not Jared Jones's fault. And 714 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 4: I'm not even saying it's the organization's fault for you know, 715 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: getting him hurt or anything like that. I'm just saying, 716 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 4: you have a window to take advantage of good pictures. 717 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: You have to take it. You can't just say, well, 718 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 4: you know what, you know we'll use what we have 719 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 4: in the organization. And on another part of this, Jared 720 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 4: Jones got hurt. Jared Jones throws really hard. When is 721 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 4: an organization? And again I go back to the Pirates 722 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 4: because they have to think outside the box. Rockies have 723 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 4: to think outside the box. Rays are thinking outside the box. 724 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 4: When are they going to say, you know what, all 725 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: these guys are still getting hurt and we're babing their arms. 726 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: Jared Jones threw back to back seasons in the minor 727 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 4: leagues at nineteen years old, now at twenty years old 728 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 4: and twenty one years old, one hundred and twenty two 729 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 4: innings and then the next year one hundred and twenty 730 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 4: six innings. Last year he got hurt at one hundred 731 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: and twenty one innings. Like, when are we going to 732 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 4: build these guys up and maybe not make them throw 733 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: max effort for all one hundred and twenty innings. Let's 734 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 4: try to get him to like one seventy and then 735 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 4: see where they're at, Like, why are we always babying 736 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 4: these arms because they're still getting hurt and he has 737 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 4: an elite. 738 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: Arm not working. Don't look at me right, look at scouts. 739 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 3: Many people inside organizations, and we talked about this on 740 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: Baseball America Hot Sheet on Monday. I was kicking this 741 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: around with JJ Cooper, who has very informed opinions. They're 742 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: coming from other people and organizations. Here was the example 743 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 3: we brought up. We do a lot of Q and 744 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: A during that show. Someone's like, Hey, what's up? What's 745 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: up with Noah Schultz. He's the big pitching prospect with 746 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: the Chicago White Sox, right, and I happen to know 747 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: a lot about him because AJ I'm sitting next to 748 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 3: most days. Brings up how for the first I think 749 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 3: two years of his pro career, they wouldn't let him 750 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 3: go past what three innings? 751 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: Some he has never thrown over five innings? 752 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: It was five, I thought. A lot of his outings 753 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 3: I remember seeing like three four, right, Oh yeah, yeah, 754 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: not allowed to go over five? Is that what you said? 755 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, hasn't gone over five innings yet. Okay, so now 756 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: I'll get the final number. 757 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: But here's the difference. They said this year they're letting 758 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: him do that. What's happening. It's not going well so far, 759 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 3: and again it's early in the season. But my question 760 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: to JJ was, what is going on with this starter 761 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: when for two years you wouldn't let him be himself. Right, 762 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: So in high school I guarantee you he went. I 763 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: mean as long as he could six seven innings, whatever, right, 764 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: whatever you're allowed, whatever state he's he's pitching, and then 765 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: as a pro, he's not allowed to pitch more than 766 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: a few innings. Go ahead, Crats, it was four right 767 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: for freaking innings. He's a he's a pro. My my 768 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 3: take Kratz here was I would rather let him go, 769 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 3: especially if they're stressed free. I get it, you want 770 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: to pull him here and there. I'm not saying he's 771 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 3: got to pitch seven innings every outing, but let him 772 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 3: get some of those in there. When he's just free 773 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 3: flowing and he's just dialing up and three hit list 774 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: innings against someone and then you're pulling them, I'm like, 775 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: I'd rather go five that outing, knock two innings off 776 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 3: the end of his season, if that's what you're really trying. 777 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 4: Here's another stat for you. His highest pitch count of 778 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 4: any game before the twenty twenty five seventy five pitches. 779 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 4: Now this year he's gone He's gone ninety two, eighty two, 780 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 4: eighty four and eighty. 781 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 3: And he's got a era close to five at double. 782 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 4: Learning for the first time. He's learning for the first 783 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: time to pitch tired. It's not his fault if you 784 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 4: never understand, if you never know what fire is, if 785 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 4: you're never like, what am I gonna do? How am 786 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 4: I gonna get through this? Oh, manager's taking me out, 787 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 4: all right? 788 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: Cool? 789 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: I feel good, thank you. 790 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 3: And that's not fair to his development. That's my point. 791 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: And when I start bringing that up, and you've got scats, 792 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 3: you've got internal people with teams. Alex Anthopolis is a 793 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 3: good guy to ask about this, who leads the Braves 794 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: runt office, because he said he was so worried about 795 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: at that for part of his career with the Blue Jays. 796 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: Then he saw it going on with the Dodgers babying 797 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: certain guys, and he's like, I don't see any correlation 798 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: with this working, right, So he's like, yeah, we're going 799 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: to do less of that. And then what happens with 800 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: the Bravos. I think they've done a sneaky job of 801 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: developing pictures. Spencer Swallenbach's a great story. AJ Smith Starver. 802 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: Neither of those guys had a lot of experience before this. 803 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: Schwellenbach was a was it most more of a hitter 804 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: and they just bring him in out of the bullpen. 805 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: He had never started, but they just like they put 806 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: him in the miners and say just go eat. 807 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: So that's it. 808 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 3: Let's slap and congratulate Colton Wong on a nice career. 809 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 3: Cheers to Colton. You know he was trying to see 810 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: if anything popped up kind of down the stretch last 811 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: couple of years. And to say I did just in 812 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 3: the past I think twenty four hours to put the 813 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 3: official announcement out there. And I liked how Matt Carpenter 814 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 3: described it to us the other day when he announced 815 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: his retirement, because of course you've got AJ trolling him 816 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 3: being like, haven't you been retired for like a year 817 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 3: or two, And he's like, well, I just want to 818 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: put out a thank you. So I like he had 819 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: a nice comeback there where he's like, yeah, I just 820 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: want to say thanks everyone. So Colton just did the 821 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: same thing. Two time goal glove winner, registered eleven seasons 822 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 3: in the BIGS, part of some very successful Cardinals teams. 823 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: Was very well liked there. Definitely good guy, Yeah, good dude, 824 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: good fella. 825 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: Congratulations big doll. 826 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 4: What does he do? What are you doing? Hawaii? That 827 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 4: one hang loose bro, So get to hang loose for 828 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 4: a minute. Now, love him some retirement. 829 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 3: He's retired and he's thirty four years old. I mean, 830 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 3: the advantages of dealing with the pressures of baseball racking 831 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: up a little I mean this is public info. Fifty 832 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 3: ish mill in the career and just enjoy it. I 833 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 3: think he's gonna want to do a lot of things, 834 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 3: maybe a little broadcast, I would say, most likely coaching, 835 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 3: especially when you have a guy like Colton, who's who's 836 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 3: coming from an area where they probably aren't loaded with 837 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 3: great coaches in Hawaii, and he can probably make an 838 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: impact on a lot of young players lives. 839 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 2: Right, there's a lot there's a lot of good young 840 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: coaches for like little league kids. I don't know about 841 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: the coaching staffs as they get older, but yeah, they 842 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: breed athletes out there at a young age. 843 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: And especially you see him in the low World Series. 844 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 3: So oh right, those World Series. 845 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: Those coaches are incredible and they're the most down to 846 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: earth coaches you'll meet in your life. 847 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it is what it is. 848 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: We're just gonna keep like they're just so then they communicate. 849 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: Well island vibes. 850 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what he's through. 851 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 3: I think he watched he watched the Bob Marley. 852 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 6: Movie the other day. Was that what you were saying? 853 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I don't know. Yeah, definitely what happened. 854 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 6: Don't wearing on your head nerd? Yeah, what do you got? 855 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 4: I mean, Memorial Day weekend coming up. You gotta get 856 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 4: out the MLB Memorial Day July fourth Military Member and 857 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 4: stuff all weekend. Let's get it. 858 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: That mustache is wrong. 859 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to Hawaii with father, Okay, I want to 860 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 3: hear him speak. You're making everywhere. 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