1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the fifth episode of Unsigned and Independent with 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. Kevin continues to look for different artists. A 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: goal of his is to find a reason why these 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: artists or bands may be unique or interesting to you guys, 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: the listener. Now we've had a former lobbyist, two ranchers 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: from South Dakota. You know, it's all about the variety 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: of backgrounds and the upbringings of these artists. That's what 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Kevin's interested in. And this whole show is talking to 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: people who are doing it independently. Now we're talking to 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Walker Montgomery today. You may recognize the last name because 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: that's because he's the son of John Michael Montgomery. Walker 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: is the sign of a well established country artist. But 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Kevin's goal is to tell walker story, not his dad's story. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: And because these artists are independent, it allows them to 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: tell their story in their own words and let the 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: audience know what their goals are, what their dreams are, 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: without ever losing what makes them unique in their own right. So, 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: Walker Montgomery with Kevin O'Connell. He's got over five million 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: streams of his debut song, Simple Town, and he was 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: chosen as an artist to watch in two by Country 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Now and Music Mayhem Magazine. And here it is Unsigned 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: and Independent with Kevin O'Connell and Walker Montgomery. Hey, this 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: is Kevin O'Connell back with Unsigned and Independent. This is 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: episode five. I really appreciate it. If you've listened to 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: the first four or any of the first four, they've 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: all been so great, so different, little unique. Everyone's background, 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: everyone's story and upbringing can be so much different than 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: each other, and this one is exactly the same. We 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 1: have Walker Montgomery on the son of John Michael Montgomery. 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: But I didn't really want to talk about John Michael. 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Walker, so we dive into 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: walker story, his upbringing and how he never really got 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: into music until he was a teenager, which was pretty 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: surprising to me because he grew up in it with 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: his family. But Walker is a great guy. He's a 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: cool story. You can follow him on social media at 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Walker Montgomery. Make sure you follow these artists. Follow me 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: on social media as well at kick Off Kevin, Share 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the podcast, show some support these artists love it, share 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: their music, listen to their music, and support them as well. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Here is Walker Montgomery, Walker around you doing today? Man 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man. I'm happy to be here, appreciate 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: you having me on. Of course, of course happy to 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: get you in here. I know I told you this 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: right before we started this. I don't want to, you know, 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: make this about your dad, but you know, obviously I 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: want to touch on it, and you know, talk about 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: a little bit and your upbringing. So you are John 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Michael Montgomery's son I am, and you're from Kentucky, from 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: born and Rice from Kentucky born and raised. I just 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: want to ask you real quick, like what was that 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: upbringing being the son of you know, a pretty big 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: country music star. But you but you lived in Kentucky 54 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: your whole life, right like you were in Oldville whole 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: entire life. I think by the time I was eighteen, 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I've I've counted it one time. I might have been 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to Nashville like three times my entire life before I 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: moved here. So did you know growing up at all 59 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: that you wanted to be in country music as well 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: as a performer? Growing up? Not not particularly, uh, because 61 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, my my parents were so great. They surrounded 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: me with sports, acting, you know, all these different things, 63 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: and uh kind of let me find my own path. 64 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: To music, and it was It wasn't really till you know, 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: junior year of high school where I started picking up 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: the guitar and and uh kind of had to look 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror and and say, hey, you ain't 68 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: going to the NFL, you know, but you too? But yeah, right, 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I started picking up the guitar and 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: and that's kind of that's kind of when I fell 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: in love with it. But it was definitely later on. 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Did you You You didn't play as a kid or anything, 73 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, growing I mean, you literally grew up with 74 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: it around it. So how did you want to make 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: your own path, fir, if you wanted to try to 76 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: find your own way in life. I don't, I don't know. 77 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I think it was really just you know, regular high 78 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: school stuff. And I I picked the guitar or play 79 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: a little piano growing up, but I was always, you know, 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of focused on on football and basketball and everything. 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: And I had choir in school and and and stuff 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: like that. So I was still involving myself in some 83 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: kind of music always, but definitely it took a second 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to get there. Do you credit your parents a lot 85 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: for We're not pushing it on you? And let absolutely 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: live a normal quote unquote teenage life. Absolutely, And I 87 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: mean all I had to worry about in high school 88 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: was things that regular high school kids should worry about. Uh, 89 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't have any pressure from them going, you know, 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: but you got to go into music, you gotta do 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: all these things and uh and yeah, I mean I 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: really do give them a lot of credit for for that, 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: because it's different when you find it on on your 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: own and and you fall in love with it, uh, 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, on your own. But yeah, I definitely give 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: them a lot of credit for that. Yeah. You hear 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: about that all the time, whether it's sports or music, 98 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: where these crazy dads have their kids going to fifty 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: different games. That's seven years old, and by the time 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: they get to fifteen, they're like, dude, I'm burnt out. 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm done. So I'm glad that you're able to find 102 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: your way kind of naturally and organically if you will. 103 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: So when did you move to Nashville. Then you're twenty 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: two years old, and I moved to Nashville nineteen around there. 105 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I was coming down and you know, writing and and 106 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: doing different things like that. But it was probably twenty 107 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: nineteen early twenty nineteen when I finally made the move. Now, 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: what was your deciding factor were, Hey, maybe I should 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: just go to Nashville and go for it. Yeah, I'm 110 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: I mean, it really was just that I wanted to 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: wanted to give it, give it the old old try. 112 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: And uh, I was at college. I was at UK 113 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: for what I called my glorious nine weeks and uh 114 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: joined a fraternity and and uh did all the college things, 115 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: which was really good experience. But I just had I 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: had a song that I that I'd written in my 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: dorm and uh, you know, wrote it, sing it, sang 118 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: it down, and we came down here and before I moved, 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: started recording and stuff, and it just uh song started 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: doing well on Spotify and everything, and I was just like, well, 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: it might as well, it's time go for it. Yefore, 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: I saw a story and correct me if I'm wrong. 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Here where you played at a pre party or something 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: for football, right man, And a radio guy came up 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, I think you you damn good 126 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: at this. I'm gonna put you on the radio. And 127 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: that did that make you kind of uh or tell 128 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: that story first, I guess. And what that leads to, well, 129 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: it definitely did. I mean, it was definitely a catalyst 130 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: to to me moving down here. But yeah, I was 131 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: in college at the time. It was my freshman year. Uh, 132 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: and they had the University of Kentucky had a fan 133 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: voted Twitter pole uh thing where the winner would play 134 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: the opening game kickoff concert. And of course, you know, 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: my mom's voting like ten times a day and everything 136 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: like that, getting everybody to do it. And uh, but 137 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: we just ended up winning and we played it. And 138 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: my drummer at the time, I've shown him that song 139 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: and uh, I didn't know what I was doing, you know, 140 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: I did. I always say it was just a god things. 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: I've never written a song, never really sang a song 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: that I've written, obviously, and I just showed him that. 143 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: He was like, hey, we can put music too, and 144 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well might as well. And that was 145 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: the first time that we have ever played it actually, 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: and and yeah, radio guy came up and me and said, hey, 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I'll play that on the radio if you go down 148 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and record it. And when that happens, you know, you're 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: kind of like, well, uh, the college thing might might 150 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: be on hold for a little bit, right right, I mean, 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: how can you say no to that, especially at how 152 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: old are you? Nineteen? I mean your eyes probably lit up. Yeah, 153 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: I get excited just think about it. I can tell 154 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: you by looking at you. I know you guys can't 155 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: see this, but I can see it in his eyes 156 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: right now. What'd your what'd your parents say when you 157 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: told him that? They? I mean, look, they were happy. Uh. 158 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I think my dad really he wanted me to go 159 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: to college, just because he never got the chance. And uh, 160 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: because but he was, you know, straight out of high school. 161 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: He's playing honky tonks and and uh and everything, and 162 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: I was. I was too, but I was still going 163 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: to college. I was. That's why my grades might have 164 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: suffered because I was trying, you know, I was. I 165 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: was playing Proud Mary's honky Tonk and Lexing and Kentucky 166 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and stuff and and uh. But yeah, they were. They 167 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: were excited about it. And I think they kind of realized, 168 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: uh that I had the bug, and they they I mean, 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: they've been supportive and everything I've done, but this is 170 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: this They knew it was coming. Once it once it happened, 171 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: they were they were all in. Their writing was kind 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: of on the wall, and it was that was the 173 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: last straw, if you will. Now, when you moved to Nashville, 174 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: what was were you thinking like I want to be, 175 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, someone big or you just kind of winging 176 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: and as you came out here and started started playing 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: at local places and kind of seeing where it went. Well, 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, as an eighteen year old, nineteen year old, 179 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: you don't know. And I didn't know, Like I said, 180 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I'd only been to Nashville three times, I think, so 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about songwriting. Uh. All I knew 182 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: was playing a little honkytongk bars and stuff in Kentucky 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: and uh so, and obviously, you know, being being on 184 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: the road with Dad some I've I've seen seen some 185 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: stuff that I guess, uh maybe somebody who was just 186 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: completely grain coming town might not have. Uh, But yeah, 187 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: I was just seeing what happened, you know. I was 188 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: trying to get a group of guys that I really 189 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: liked riding with, uh and get as many meetings and 190 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: everything that I can keep booking shows. Of course, at 191 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: the time, it was just my mom and me booking shows. 192 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Uh So, we were we were just calling county fairs wherever, 193 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: seeing if they had a little bit of money, and 194 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: even if they did and were like, well, can we 195 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: still come play? Uh? But yeah, I mean at the time, 196 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: I've really didn't have a plan, I guess, uh, because 197 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: I was eighteen and I was just like, well, let's 198 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: see what happens, right and then since so since then, 199 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: you do have a management team now, right, but you're independent, 200 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: you don't have UM any label or anything. But how 201 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: much is that management team because I'm interested to find 202 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: out people that come on this some have managers, some 203 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: who don't UM all are obviously independent, unsigned, But how 204 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: how much has that management team helped you, you know, 205 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: be able to juggle things or getting more gigs or 206 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: travel or whatever it may be. Yeah, well, I mean 207 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: it's helped tremendously. And I got a great team over 208 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: Red Light Management, uh, Sean mcspaden, Jenny Tack and ends 209 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: up even Senzo and it's uh, it's a special group 210 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: and I'm blessed to work with them. But they definitely 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: does take you know, some weight off of my shoulders 212 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: because they obviously know things that I don't and and 213 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: they can handle things that that I might not. Really, 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: even though I've been here for for a little bit now, 215 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, I still it might be the first time 216 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: doing something for me when they've done it a million 217 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: times before. And uh, but no, it's helped tremendously. Uh. 218 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: And William Morris my book and agent, uh, Kevin Maid's 219 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: has I mean just doing a tremendous job over there, 220 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: so the whole two. You know, having more people on 221 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: the team, it just always helps, right, everyone balances, it 222 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: plays a ball in some way. Now, do you enjoy 223 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: because I always I also find it interesting, especially nowadays 224 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: with social media, a lot more people, it seems like 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: since I've started this are talking about how they enjoy 226 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: being independent because you know, they have a lot of 227 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: their rights to their own stuff. And so I gotta 228 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: ask you as well, the same question of do you 229 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: enjoy that independent And you're still young enough and still 230 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: raw enough, probably you're still trying to figure things out. 231 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Do you enjoy that independence of it? I mean yes, 232 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: And and though obviously you know, I guess the main 233 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: goal for everybody is to get a get a label 234 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: behind you and more people that believe in you. Uh, 235 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: but to have kind of that creative freedom really does 236 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: in some cases help out. And uh, but yeah, I 237 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,479 Speaker 1: mean there's pros and constant to everything, especially being independent. 238 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: But it it just depends on the situation. Uh really, 239 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: I guess. But owning and owning all the all all 240 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: the music, it's pretty nice, you know, right knowing that 241 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: you have that ownership to it. But it seems like 242 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: one of those you know, if the right deal were 243 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to come along, then we can sit down and talk 244 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: about that. Well, I mean, and that goes into I 245 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: ment I keep mentioning the team. It's it's if if 246 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: the team believes in you, then that's that's the right deal. 247 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: And when it comes to points and whatever it is, 248 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: obviously there's a longer and stuff like that. But if 249 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: people are behind you and really believe what you're doing, 250 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: that just it makes all the difference. Have you had 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: any trouble in the industry because and maybe you haven't 252 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: at all. This isn't it at all, um. But at 253 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the end of the day, as a business, do you 254 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: ever have you ever found it in the last few 255 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: years or growing up? But all like, oh you know 256 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: who your dad is, like you probably have it so easy. 257 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Like even in the industry, have you had and you 258 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: not have to call anybody out? But I don't call anybody. Yeah, 259 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: But but have you run into those roadblots or people 260 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: think that you have it easier when the reality is no, Man, 261 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: we're all on the grinder. Yeah. I mean there's always 262 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: people that and this. I mean you mentioned a business. 263 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: I I just assume it would be the same thing 264 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: if your dad was a football coach or something. You're 265 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: trying to become a football coach yourself. There's always the 266 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: people that I think that way. You know, I always 267 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: gotta be easy. He's only doing it because the day's 268 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: doing it. Uh. But for the most part, man, I 269 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: mean I think that lucky, luckily enough. I mean dad 270 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: was Dad was very successful, and people respect that. Uh, 271 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: but they kind of they do. See, I'm trying to 272 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: make my own own path and uh while paying homage 273 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to all the success that he had because he had 274 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: some great songs. But yeah, you do get every now 275 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: and then some people that or I don't know if 276 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: it's bitterness or whatever it is. When you first came 277 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: out here, were you playing Broadway or anything, or were 278 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: you more like the writer's round kind of. I did 279 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: a few things on Broadway when I first moved down here, 280 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: but then you know, once I started kind of getting 281 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: into Riders circles and stuff like that. It Uh, I 282 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: started doing more the live Oaks and Demumbrians, uh and 283 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and just riders rounds, which are which I really enjoy 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, didn't didn't really do the Broadway thing 285 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: for that long. Kind of moved up to Demumbre and 286 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: pretty quick. Uh. But the Riders rounds are also just fun, 287 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's They're just fun to do. So I really, 288 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I really, I really enjoyed them. I enjoyed the intimate 289 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: intimacy of those more than anything. I've been to a 290 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: few of them out here, especially have a live Volk 291 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: a couple of them. And as fun as you know, 292 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: watching somebody go crazy on stage and having a beer 293 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: in your hand, yelling and hooting and all er in 294 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: those writers rounds, it's cool because you can get like 295 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: the backstory of of these songs, and you can get 296 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: the artist or multiple of the band up there talking 297 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: about where the inspiration comes for this song or where 298 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the sound comes for this song. So is that something 299 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: you enjoyed to do as well? Yeah, I mean, especially 300 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: when I'm on on stage. Uh, even the live show 301 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: when I got the full band behind me. I mean 302 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: it seems uh my TM gets mad at me. I'm 303 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm almost try to tell the story to every song 304 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: just because I want I want people to hear it. 305 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, I do really enjoy hearing the 306 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: stories and and telling the stories of you know, when 307 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: when the song was written, or if I didn't write 308 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: the song, where where it came from, how I found it. 309 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it is a cool little thing. Yeah. I 310 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: mean me as a listener, I don't know how to 311 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: play anything but musician, but me as a listener, I 312 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: enjoy it. And when you sit down to write a song, 313 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: do you have something a process in your head or 314 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: does something just hit you that day? Because I know 315 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: you guys have these scheduling writer writer meetings, So what 316 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: what goes into writing a song for you? Well? I write. 317 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I write about two to three times a week, and 318 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: that's just because I'm on the road on the weekends. Uh, 319 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, get get a one day break or something 320 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: before we go on the road. But I'm I'm a 321 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: melody guy, so I'm always kind of thinking of melodies. 322 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: And obviously I got a bunch of titles on my 323 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: phone and everything. But it, uh, the process, it almost 324 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: goes back to once you find a group of folks 325 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: that you really like writing with. For me, at least, uh, 326 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: you can kind of hone in on everybody's strengths and 327 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: weaknesses and stuff, and and uh, you know, I've got 328 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: a few guys that are really good with words, and 329 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and I hate words. I just want to do melodies 330 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: and and everything. And then I've got some good some 331 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: really great track guys and everything. So it uh, it 332 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: takes time to figure out your process and kind of 333 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: learn how to do it. But once you once you do, 334 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you can kind of get into groove and that sound 335 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: that you look for. I'd love to play a song 336 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: um of yours on here, but we're not legally allowed 337 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: to do some one here anymore. So I do want 338 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, some of your sound and 339 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: where your background comes from. Do you do you feel 340 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: like that nineties country is a sound that you've kind 341 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: of grown up and it's just naturally into you or 342 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: is that something that you're trying to get away from? No, God, no, 343 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I think Uh, I think you you awarded it perfectly. Really, 344 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of naturally what I gravitate towards. 345 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: And uh, it didn't when I moved down down here. 346 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: It didn't take me long to figure out that my 347 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: voice doesn't sound good on a pop track. And uh, 348 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not dogging on that because there's so many, 349 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, pop country songs that I love listened to 350 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and everything. But it it naturally just the way my 351 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: voice is and the way I hear things. Definitely, the 352 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: nineties influence has has more, has has more kicking into 353 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: my songs. Is it just me? I don't know about 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: you being an industry, I feel like the nineties sound 355 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: is kind of coming back a little bit. Oh, I 356 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: think absolutely, And I'm I think it's a good good thing. 357 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: It's yes, it's storytelling telling music and uh and just good. 358 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: You know. I'm glad the steel's come back, fiddles come back. Uh. 359 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: That steel guitar is my face. Oh, it's just awesome. 360 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: I wish I could play it, man, but I've I've 361 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: seen some boys that can that can play, and there's 362 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: just so much that goes into it. I'm like, I'm 363 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna stick to guitar, man, like I'll 364 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: let you do. Yeah. Yeah, you had to EP come 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: out earlier this year speaking of sound, and there's a 366 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: couple of songs on there that I like, and I 367 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta say this just a title alone gets 368 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: me A bad day to be a beer? Yeah, I 369 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: think I think that's me every Saturday and watching college football, 370 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: and every Saturday is a bad day to be a beer. 371 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: So I talk about this EP a little bit. They 372 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: came out in March of this year. Is that correct? Yeah, 373 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: it was March of this year, and uh, EPs called 374 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: Russ but bad Day to be a Beer? U. It 375 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: is my favorite song on there. It's just and I 376 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: recorded that actually maybe two and a half years ago. 377 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: And even how my voice is now, I can kind 378 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: of I can tell that my voice is either I 379 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gotten deeper or whatever, but I've 380 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: or just matured a little bit. But man, it's just 381 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: a fun song. And in my glorious nine weeks in college, 382 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: we'd wake up on Saturdays. Of course we call him 383 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: catter days, and uh almost saying my brothers, would you know, 384 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: they say it's a bad day to be a beer. 385 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: And then I didn't write that song, but uh, a 386 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: great man named Dallas Davidson actually wrote that song with 387 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: a couple of good buys of mine, Ray Fulter, Cole Taylor, 388 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: and uh but as soon as I heard that, I 389 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: was like, I gotta cut it. I gotta cut it. 390 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean we can all relate to that. Oh yeah, 391 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah. I gotta say, by the way, real quick, 392 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: my first SEC game I went to a few weeks ago. 393 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna like this, but it was Tennessee 394 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: and Kentucky. I'm sorry but I had to bring that up. 395 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 1: But I will say, I'm just saying a guy from 396 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: California going to my first SEC game is unbelievable. It's different, man, 397 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's an experience. Yeah, it was. It was great. 398 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: I had to throw that little nugget it well, but 399 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: I was on the road when that happened, and you 400 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: probably didn't watch much of it. Well, I put on 401 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: a good face for the show, but but uh, I was. 402 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: I was pretty mad. Yeah. I'm a big sports fan myself. Man, 403 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: So I've been there. We've all been there. There, the upstand, 404 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: the downs, right. I know you don't really do the 405 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: Broadway anymore, but you still play some shows. I'm sure 406 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: we do a lot of cover songs. Like cover songs 407 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: is a huge thing out here in Nashville, right, if 408 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: you get the tourists in there, twenty bucks, play this, 409 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: play this. Do you find yourself enjoying more of like 410 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: the old school and nineties covers, even like your dad 411 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: or whoever. It may be just because that's kind of 412 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: what you grew up in and that's where you feel 413 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: like you're more comfortable with every cover. So we might 414 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: do maybe three cover songs during our set if it's 415 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: a long If it's a longer set, we might do four. 416 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: But every song that, uh, that we cover is I 417 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: think it's two thousand three and before. Yeah, so uh 418 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's but that also goes back to that's 419 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: just what I gravitate towards. And uh, you know, I 420 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: always say to the crowd, you know, if if it's 421 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: all right with y'all, it's, uh, every cover we do 422 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be nineteen nineties, and they all go crazy 423 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: and stuff, what's your favorite? Well, we always do sold 424 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: and and it gets them every time. Man, But it's 425 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: it's just a fun song to play. But that's definitely 426 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: my favorite. But yeah, I mean, it's it's just what 427 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: I There's no really reason why I do that. It's 428 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: just what I grab gravitate towards right. It's just a 429 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: natural thing for you. Well, Walker, what I'll have to 430 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: close this out here? What else you got coming up? Um? 431 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Shows songs album? Well, I guess you EP earlier is here, 432 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: But what else is on the books for you? Right now? 433 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: We're really planning for three, you know, trying to get 434 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: on the road and everything, and uh, I gotta got 435 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: a new producer, Mr. Bart Butler, and we're doing some 436 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: some really fun things, you know, finding songs, writing songs 437 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: and uh, just trying to uh, trying to keep honing 438 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: in on that sound and uh. But yeah, we'll be 439 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: in the studio hopefully hopefully in December or something like 440 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: that January. And got some new music coming out next year? 441 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: Can you can you say any of that are just 442 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: it's still in the works. It's still it's still in 443 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: the works. I got a few, I got a few 444 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: songs that I know we're gonna cut, uh and we're 445 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: and we're playing we're already playing some of them on 446 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the road and everything. But yeah, it's I'm excited. I'm 447 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: excited for for next Every year is almost a new 448 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: chapter man. And uh and after COVID it's it's just it. Uh, 449 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: it's just great to be in full swing and is 450 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna be even better. That's awesome. That's awes gonna check out. 451 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: His EP came out earlier this year called Rust Walker. 452 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Where can the find you on Instagram or Twitter, TikTok, 453 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: whatever you're on? Yeah, man, I do the TikTok. I'm 454 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: not very good at TikTok. But you just anything, you know, anything, 455 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: uh at social media? Just Walker Montgomery, at Walker Montgomery. 456 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: I think on my Twitter it's at Walker Montgomery. If 457 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: you want to see, you know, I'll have a few 458 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: cocktails or something while watching football and you want to 459 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: see some some mad football tweets, go follow me on Twitter. 460 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: But there you go. That's awesome, man, Walker, I really 461 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for coming in. There's a lot of 462 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: fun and best luck for everything that the future holds 463 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: for you. I appreciate you, man, Thanks for having me 464 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: on