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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. We are thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat by one of the greatest stand ups,

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Speaker 1: funniest podcasters doing it anywhere. You've seen her on HBO's

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Speaker 1: Two Do Queens and heard her on her podcast Dork

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Speaker 1: Forrest and The Jackie and Lori Show. Please welcome the brilliant,

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Speaker 1: the talented Jackie Kasha. Yeah, well up, and I will

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Speaker 1: not be breaking in a song by by loss their loss.

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Speaker 1: Some say love now just a straight down the middle,

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Speaker 1: straight just doing something out of That's it to us?

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Speaker 1: From what what part of the cursed landscape God's green Earth?

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Speaker 1: It is? Uh, we're talking Hollywood, Hollywood, Florida, where, weirdly enough,

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Speaker 1: it looks like carrion birds are floating in the sky.

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Speaker 1: I wish you, I wonder if you can see him.

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Speaker 1: But it's not good. It's not good. And then there's uh,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of music themed art. I'm surrounded

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Speaker 1: and I don't know anything about me, Like I know,

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Speaker 1: I listen to music. I'm not a monster, but I

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Speaker 1: don't like I'm not. I haven't watched that documentary. There's

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Speaker 1: a giant picture downstairs that I just tweeted. I said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a heavy metal. I know he's hugely famous.

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Speaker 1: He's wearing a bandana as a hat. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who he is, and everybody feel free to guess. And

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Speaker 1: then in two hours, when I'm done with the zeit geist,

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Speaker 1: I will post a picture and you all go, how

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Speaker 1: can you not know? That? Hat? My favorite, my favorite

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Speaker 1: type of genre of music them dart is things that

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Speaker 1: are shaped as like musical instruments. Right, And you were

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Speaker 1: sharing before recorded that you are, in fact in a

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Speaker 1: hotel shape like a guitar. Yeah. And you know those

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Speaker 1: uh you know when when they line up like cattle

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Speaker 1: to check into a hotel, the posts are all guitars.

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Speaker 1: Everything is a guitar. Yeah, like for like that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. But it's isn't that like way more? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's so this whole thing is a footprint. It's the

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Speaker 1: devil's thumb. It is sticking out of the everglades or

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Speaker 1: where the hell I am like like like a giant

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Speaker 1: footprint this thing when when the aliens come to be like,

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Speaker 1: so were they were trying to kill it? This is

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Speaker 1: giant knife into the art. The art my room is

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Speaker 1: something and it does. I'd show it to you, but

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Speaker 1: of course it's a hotel artis so it's of course

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Speaker 1: nailed to the wall. But it's guitar picks stuff. Yes,

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Speaker 1: very cool. Nothing is more metal, nothing is more rock

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Speaker 1: and roll than things shaped like guitar hotel massmade hotel art.

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Speaker 1: It's like macaroni art, but with guitar. Yes, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I think my lamp is a drum.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like just gotta be so weird. You're like, like,

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Speaker 1: the is it my lamps a drum? The toilet's a

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Speaker 1: drum stool, Like look at one of those symbol hats

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Speaker 1: instead of a fridge or whatever. Yeah, that that would

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Speaker 1: be what they served the burger in is like the

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Speaker 1: a burger on side. Star. If they aren't doing that,

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Speaker 1: they're actually leaving money on the table, that's right. And

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing the elevator is just rife with rock clothes. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's something going on. I don't know what's happening, except

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Speaker 1: for no one with masks. That's what we know. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of things not happening here

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Speaker 1: in Florida. My favorite philosopher, Eric Clapton has always said,

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Speaker 1: you don't need that, you don't need that fucking mask.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't let the government tell you what to do.

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Speaker 1: I had a moment at l a X yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: tweeted about it, but it was I was in an

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Speaker 1: elevator going up to the Delta skyl Club. I traveled

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Speaker 1: It's very glamorous anyway. It's a tiny elevator, me, two

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Speaker 1: other middle aged women and an older man. Demographic just

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Speaker 1: you know. The man's middle Eastern might be uh Arabic

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Speaker 1: or Armenian or something. I'm Armenian, so I can almost tell.

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Speaker 1: And then there's an Asian woman and another middle aged

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Speaker 1: This just yeah, giant silence buzzkiller on on the inside

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Speaker 1: said me too, Man, look what we just did. You

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Speaker 1: said something, I said something, the whole thing. And then

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Speaker 1: I lived in hope that he wasn't going to the

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Speaker 1: sky Club and Criss Croft. We like to ask our guests,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history, well besides the

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Speaker 1: abandoned mind exploration, which is like my main I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's like become a problem. Yeah, you've been on that

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Speaker 1: but I mean, why would you ever go into a mine.

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Speaker 1: They're so dangerous and people are doing it on YouTube

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Speaker 1: before you. They're loaded with false floors. It's all talking

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Speaker 1: about would you go to an abandoned mind if we

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Speaker 1: took you to one? Fuck? Yes, I would, And I

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Speaker 1: would go in underprepared. I go on cell phone light,

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Speaker 1: cell phone? You got flip flops on, dude, you might

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Speaker 1: were covered. Oh my god. I would totally go, you know,

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Speaker 1: be one of those things where I'd have to like

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Speaker 1: join a tour, you know, Za gang. If you know

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Speaker 1: any abandoned minds that are safe, please hit us up.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to make are happened for Chris Crofton. I

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Speaker 1: just want to talk about the stuff, you know, like gobbing.

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Speaker 1: Gobbing is when they store the rocks in the wall,

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Speaker 1: and like what the big hollow part where they already

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Speaker 1: I may have all these meanings. I know everything winds

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Speaker 1: and the people in the videos. That's all they do too.

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Speaker 1: I mean they think they're hot shit and you're like,

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Speaker 1: that's just a word for where they got the ore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not fucking miners. What they love fucking saying like

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Speaker 1: like beating each other to saying that's cobbing. That's cobbing. Right.

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Speaker 1: You may think you're a hot shot, abandoned mine, explore

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Speaker 1: YouTube star, but you ain't ship in my book. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but seriously, as I'm concerned, that's black face and then

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Speaker 1: like a coal miner and trying to act like you

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Speaker 1: know about the mind. Wait, so what do they do

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Speaker 1: with the rocks that they got while hollowing out the

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Speaker 1: by the they take the rocks that they've taken out

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Speaker 1: the oar out of which you know, people enjoy saying

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Speaker 1: that because they say stop. That's one of the threats

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Speaker 1: these are also yeah, they yeah, wind they talk about

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Speaker 1: that's just like a hazard. They're like, that's a false floor, right, there,

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Speaker 1: and are those specifically designed that way, like by just

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Speaker 1: mischievous miners with murder on their minds, like Donkey Kong

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Speaker 1: or something. No, I don't think so it was because

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Speaker 1: But they probably did something. They probably rolled barrels at

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Speaker 1: That's called gobbing. And then if they put it in

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Speaker 1: whether it's a collapse or backfill they're always like is

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Speaker 1: that a collapse or is that backfill? And if you

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Speaker 1: have like a mini argument, you know. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: to the subject at hand, even though the subject at

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Speaker 1: guess I would say since I have this podcast called colbrew,

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Speaker 1: It's like a guy, it's a chicken farmer from who

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Speaker 1: said he saw a craft that had men with turtlenecks

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Speaker 1: this Reader's Digest I think it's called Strange Mysteries Book.

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Speaker 1: It's like a hard hardcover book. Like anybody who grew

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Speaker 1: like one month to get Bigfoot, next month, to get Yetti.

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Speaker 1: It's like and his and one of the stories was

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Speaker 1: because I mean if this, first of all, if you

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Speaker 1: based on error. Amazing futuristic technology. That guy could use

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Speaker 1: a fucking pancake. So many great parts about the story.

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Speaker 1: going to do. Oh what a budget of assholes, So

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Speaker 1: they have to we have to create these things because

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Speaker 1: product like you said productivity, sup. Yeah, that's not a

422
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: that's that hasn't been an issue. And I think like

423
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Speaker 1: you're saying, even which is odd enough, because if you're

424
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Speaker 1: in an office, many people will just smoke cigarettes to

425
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Speaker 1: give themselves a reason to take a break, and you

426
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: don't see people being like where what are you smoking cigarettes?

427
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 1: It's just accepted because then there's like the idea, it's like, well,

428
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Speaker 1: you came to the factory today, so that at least

429
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: I know if you're not if you're here, then you

430
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: can't be helping your family do something navigate us incredibly

431
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: stressful time. Yeah, and it's you know that that's sort

432
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: of same. I think that same perspective hasn't been adopted.

433
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: But these devices, like they run the fucking gamut, which

434
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: is amazing because in the beginning, there was a company

435
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: that started in February, like a mouse mover company, and

436
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: they just did it because they're like, we know people

437
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: use it for like if you're if you're looking at

438
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Speaker 1: many different screens for like data analysis or things like that.

439
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just want something like that. So the computer

440
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: doesn't like it might not have the function to know

441
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: that you don't want it to go to sleep or something,

442
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: so you use a mouse mover for that. But then

443
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: this company just saw just exponential uptick in sales since

444
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Speaker 1: like April when they realize, oh my god, I'm being

445
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: watched in my own home and the only way to

446
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: combat this is if my mouse is moving. So they

447
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: have like mechanical ones that you just rest your mouths

448
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: on and it just kind of goes like left or

449
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: right to just kind of keep it moving. They have

450
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: other like USB devices you can plug in that will

451
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: just tell your computer that there's like a mouse being moved,

452
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: so it will don't matter what. You can just do

453
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: whatever you need to, but the observing eyes that be

454
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: won't know. And some they're also just YouTube videos too.

455
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that have like these moving graphics, and

456
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Speaker 1: you have like if you have an optical mouse, it

457
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: will actually like create like it'll create movement in the

458
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Speaker 1: cursor again, so you can just run a video and

459
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: people are going to think your work, but that you're

460
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Speaker 1: doing something, and what you're really doing is playing Lord's

461
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: Water Deep on Steam. But I also need to move

462
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Speaker 1: my master that, but wow, what why I've never understood.

463
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, granted I do stand up, so there's not

464
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Speaker 1: a lot of oversight, right, And but I never understood,

465
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you know when I when I had day jobs, why

466
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: there was so many ship bags? Right? Like? Why what

467
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: do you care? Am I doing the job? Is? Like

468
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: I remember I used this stuff envelopes for some gig.

469
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: I worked at a nonprofit and this this my boss

470
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Speaker 1: told me how to stuff envelopes and addressing the bolts

471
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Speaker 1: for this mailing. And she explained it took fifteen sixteen

472
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Speaker 1: minutes to explain it, and then she said, you do

473
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Speaker 1: you understand? And I said, mostly, I'm gonna probably have

474
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Speaker 1: to ask you two more times as I do this

475
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: how to do it again? And she was like what

476
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I don't care. I mean, I

477
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of my self esteem whether I

478
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: whether I got this right the first time. I just

479
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: want to do it how you want it done, because

480
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't like I would be really good as like

481
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: a prep cook, because I don't care how I cut

482
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: the vegetables, but the chef does. And most people go

483
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: to work, they don't want to take it home with them.

484
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: And we're not all inventors, right, So yeah, I'll do

485
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: what however you want. But then when it's done, don't

486
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: stare at me. I'm gonna do it and then get

487
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: the hell out of my way. Yeah, there's we've talked before,

488
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: the Theory of Bullshit Jobs essay and then book written

489
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: by David Graber that argues that like half of the

490
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: jobs of societal work is like pointless and like just

491
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: there to give people give like bosses, people to boss around.

492
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is a huge check mark

493
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: and the like evidence for that because productivity, like you said,

494
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: is up. So that's not what they're That's not what

495
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: they're wearing out. They're worrying about whether you are being

496
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: like whether the quality of your life is being diminished

497
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: by they're like talking about power and control. It's not

498
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: anything about productivity and effectiveness. Yeah, or for people that

499
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: precontextualize what it means to work to right, because if

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00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, well I'm working, but I'm also doing

501
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: this other stuff, why don't I do more of that?

502
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: You can't be feeling that comfortable Because this whole financial

503
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: system is based on the threat of homelessness and starvation

504
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: to coerce you and to keep working, so I don't

505
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: start loosening your definitions of what it means to survive.

506
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: We can't have that, so you better have that. Fucking

507
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: mouse moving is I don't know, very low stakes, but

508
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: it's it's one of these things that's been across the

509
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: board just been denounced, you know. The Electronic Frontier Foundation

510
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: calls BOSS where, you know, invasive, unnecessary, unethical. The Center

511
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: for Democracy and Technology called it i as being quote

512
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: actively detriment told to employees health and demanding that like

513
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: OSHA actually updates its policies so that like on worker

514
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: safety to also include like at home workers just for

515
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: like this kind of weird you know patrol, like productivity

516
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: patrol that's like unnecessary, right right, because it's not like

517
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: we're not all accepting that, you know, like, there's a

518
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: TV in this room this side been I don't know

519
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: who else is watching, but I've sort of accepted that

520
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm probably never alone, and uh, and there's cameras in

521
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: this casino, in this hotel, and but there's absolutely no

522
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: reason for me that for anyone to check in and go, hey,

523
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I am watching you. I'm just like

524
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: the whe level hum of me being watched at all

525
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: times is already there. You don't need to poke. Please

526
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: don't prod that open would opticon Israel? Who? All right,

527
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about Kamala hair. Politico has a Yes, this

528
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: is like a hit piece or something. They got her

529
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: ass done. Politico doing the fucking lord's work of meaningless

530
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: nonsense journalism. I just want to read this headline of

531
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: this article that's that came out earlier this week. It said,

532
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is bluetooth phobic. Um, what what does that

533
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: even mean? Like she discriminates against bluetooth users? She has

534
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: somebody with a bluetooth right, does she have like an

535
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: exclusive Beats by dre deal that doesn't allow her to

536
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: use non wired headphones? Like? What is happening exactly? And

537
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: this is what they say quote. While a growing number

538
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: of consumers are going wireless, the vice president is sticking

539
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: with the classics. She has long felt that bluetooth headphones

540
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: are security risk. As a result, Harris insists on using

541
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: wired headphones. Three former campaign aids told what swing playbook?

542
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Okay not? I mean like, wow, well let's go on,

543
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: let me let me They go, okay, that okay, political thinking,

544
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: All right, that wasn't enough for you allow us to

545
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: maybe expand on this. Former aids say that the vice

546
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: president has long been careful about security and technology, with

547
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: some describing it as prudent and others suggesting it is

548
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: a bit paranoid. It's a recurring theme, and they talked

549
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: about how when she was oh this is another one,

550
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: and another former AID when she was attorney general in California,

551
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: said that when a person arrived for a meeting, staff

552
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: were instructed not to allow them to wait in Harris's

553
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: office alone. What the fun is? She's the new Richard Nixon. Yeah,

554
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Kamala Harris fan, as most listeners

555
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: of this show, no, but like, what the funk is

556
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: this exactly? What is the point? I'm really curious what

557
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: the fucking quote unquote journalists who did this? What what

558
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: was this piece? Adding? What did we need to know

559
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: about this? Because they made they like did a collage

560
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: of all these photos of her wearing like wired Apple headphones,

561
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: and they're like look at her, dude, like's she got

562
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: these like wired headphones on? And I think part of

563
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: it is probably some anti black woman bias and they're

564
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: just finding some ship to just be like, fucking man,

565
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: she doesn't she hates bluetooth. I guess that's something we

566
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: can say to try and make her look different from

567
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: the mainstream. But I'm not even, like, I don't even

568
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: This is just so weird because if that's who gives

569
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: a ship about what her like her priorities are around

570
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: like ops sack like operational security. If she if she

571
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: thinks bluetooth she's not comfortable with, Like, who gives a fuck?

572
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Like I just helped me? Somebody also understanding. Yeah, they're

573
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: they're using quotes from like former aids and like staffers,

574
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: like just ask like a security expert, is this like

575
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: over over the type? They don't because it is. You can, yeah,

576
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: you can, like, yeah, has anyone met like an older

577
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: person or like even an older person of color? Yeah? People,

578
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, I have aunts and uncles who have thoughts

579
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: around opts, their own operations and security that I don't like.

580
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't like that in my car. I can't use

581
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: that physical key on that because you don't know what's

582
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: going to happen. Like I this seems very normal to me,

583
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: But again, this is just like part of I don't

584
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: know clickbait failure over at Politico. I feel like after

585
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: a former Secretary Terry of States private email server was

586
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: hacked at a basement, maybe we should be a little

587
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: bit more paranoid than not, Like maybe maybe it's okay

588
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: to use headphones, it's fine. Also, it's like this, this

589
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: feels like it's either stupid or it's like weirdly nefarious

590
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: because it gets to paint her because everyone knows that

591
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: this is stupid. So it's also like, oh, we're attacking

592
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: her unfairly for no reason. And if we're attacking her

593
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: unfairly for this, then maybe real things that she is

594
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: being fairly attacked for we're also attacking her unfairly for

595
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it gives her weird

596
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: cover for like, oh, everyone's just being you know, sexist

597
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: and racist. We're seeing and they did it for the

598
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: bluetooth stuff that they're also doing it for you know, X,

599
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Y and Z or like immigration and stuff whatever exactly.

600
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: So it's like it's there's, it's yeah, there's it's it's

601
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: lose lose all around. It's like it's almost like clickbait

602
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: journalism is destroying everything. Yeah, well meanwhile, like we're looking

603
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: at you know, just the most some of them, like

604
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: you know not some like the most aggressive moves towards

605
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: voter suppression we've seen in our lived memory. And meanwhile,

606
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: we're devoting inches and coverage to like this bluetooth thing

607
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is something we've talked about or

608
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: just mentioned touched on too. Is just that this is

609
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: just all like the media is huge hand in allowing

610
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: all of this ship to just crumble by the wayside,

611
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: because that has an inability to actually say, like, hey man,

612
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the country is really fucked up right now, and like

613
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: ship's gonna get fucking terrible if we don't get ahold

614
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: of like just just the most basic voting rights to

615
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: start off with. But instead we're talking about sucking you know,

616
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: why didn't you have air pods? Yeah? And I think

617
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: people like see this and it tunes and it's frustrating

618
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: because it tunes people out from like paying attention to

619
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the news more and more because you're like, I'm not

620
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: even seeing anything real and this is what it is.

621
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Speaker 1: It's like I saw there's this morning that I mean,

622
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: it's unreally did this specifically, but I saw this morning

623
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: that it was like a fightsor CEO was like, I

624
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: think we're going to need the fourth shot even faster

625
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: than the third one. And I was like, can we

626
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: just like not talk to these people? Could you just

627
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: shut the Like I just I hate the news and

628
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating because it also gives like people that

629
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: say all news is fake news like even more and

630
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: more amos. I'm just like, yeah, I also I get

631
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: where you're coming from with half of this ship, because

632
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: this is this is a bullshit story. Get out of way.

633
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: All news is fucking coward news. No one wants to

634
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: fucking say the thing past don't go like rather than

635
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: saying like, I don't know this fucking pharma griffter says

636
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: we should give them more money. Yeah, like that's that's

637
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: just treat that quote like that. Yeah, exactly. Have a

638
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 1: more holistic, you know, reporting around saying things like this

639
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: is how much uh Viser and Maderna have made, this

640
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: is how much Viser stands to make from their therapeutics

641
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: that they're developing. There's so many other things that you

642
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: can be, like telling people real things while also giving

643
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: them an actual accounting of what the stakes are, what

644
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: the dynamics are around the story because all they do

645
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: is just give you this ship in a vacuum, no context,

646
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: and if you're not paying attention, you're gonna think nothing's wrong,

647
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: nothing's you know, gonna ry at all. Yeah, the worst

648
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: thing is that Kamala doesn't use headphones. That are you know,

649
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: bluetooth that are the worst thing. Yeah, the worst thing

650
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: is there are people dying for their first shot of

651
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: a vaccine. But we've we've entrusted this with just greedy,

652
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: fucking goblins and just only focusing like in America, maybe

653
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: you should get that third or four. Like I think

654
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: there's I truly think there's a direct line between like

655
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: ship like this and the vaccine, and like vaccine hasitency

656
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: because like the mainstream media is fully bought into like

657
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: the whole like corporate neoliberal like ideal that is killing people,

658
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: that like is making people, like making us the loneliest

659
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: we've ever been. Like it that has completely taken over

660
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: how we communicate with one another and like turned it

661
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: into you know, the most basic part of being a

662
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: human being is like interacting with other human beings, and

663
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: we've turned that into like a algorithmically like monitored and

664
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: monetized and like manipulated thing, like so that people are

665
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: going to react negatively to that, and the mainstream media

666
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: just has a complete like inability to cope with that.

667
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: And there is already a reactionary kind of option on

668
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the right. And so that's why like things are moving

669
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: so fucking out of control in that direction, and like

670
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: the left hasn't really figured out it's alternative strategy, right, Well,

671
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's why you need more independent

672
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: media and also just like for people to demand that

673
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: these people actually say something that is counter to what

674
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: their corporate benefactors dictate to them. Like it's that you

675
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: can't it's like because you you already know, Like we

676
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: already know that if on MSNBC they said, we need

677
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: to actually be breaking down how much money is being

678
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: made and like also put people in the front of

679
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: their mind because the most important thing about getting through

680
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: this pandemic globally is to have as many people inoculated

681
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: as possible. But if we're not hammering home that that's

682
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: a problem and that there's also there's corporate greed national

683
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: there's like this weird nationalist stick fucking greed that's happening

684
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: with who's being shared with what if that's not being

685
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: talked about there's no context, And yeah, it's just why

686
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: why fucking pay attention because it's just gonna sound like

687
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, chaos constantly. Yeah, yeah, but

688
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that at the end of

689
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: the day, like I think you'd hope that more and

690
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: more people rather than being like, man, the fucking news

691
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: is fake. It's not that it's fake, it's that it's

692
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: being presented to you by people who don't even live

693
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: on the same fucking planet as you. You know what

694
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we're getting the weather on Mars and

695
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: being told that that's the that's the temperature on Earth.

696
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: But no, these people live in a completely different reality,

697
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: completely divorced from the existential threats that most working people

698
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: or marginalized people face. So to expect them to actually

699
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: come with a real, you know, proper accounting of what's happening,

700
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I think it's an impossible task at this point. And

701
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: that's you know, we just see that over and over. Yeah,

702
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: and it's like that's that's also how you see like

703
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: a story like this come out. Because I can guarantee

704
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: you this to reh happened because like a bunch of

705
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: people were like that drinks after the office in DC,

706
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: a few reporters and they were like, you know, I've

707
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: heard about Kamala. She doesn't do this headphone thing. And

708
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: then because they're all boring and stupid, they all talk

709
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: about it because they got nothing real in their lives,

710
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: and that that's how it becomes a story. They're like, oh,

711
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: you don't google it. Okay, remember when she says we

712
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: did it, Joe wired headphones. Okay, when she did this

713
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: thing wired headphones, You're like, oh, ship, he's right, yeah,

714
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: fucking always wired headphones. Yeah. You could feel the wine

715
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: glass in their hand as they're like, oh, interesting, little discovered.

716
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: Did you guys read the Jeremy Strong profile in the

717
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: New Yorker that everybody was like, this guy is absurd. No,

718
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I haven't read it yet. It's so he is like

719
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: a lot, but it gave me this like very strong

720
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: feeling that this one also gives me that it's like

721
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: journalism as cool kids making fun of like a dork,

722
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: Like where like the writer of the New Yorker profile

723
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: like first discloses your Jeremy Strong that plays Kendall Royal yeah, sorry, sorry,

724
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: that should be disclosed, not expecting everyone to be like,

725
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Jeremy Strong. Yeah. So kind of like the

726
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: pieces like he takes himself very seriously as an actor,

727
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: doesn't realize the show Succession is a comedy, is like

728
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: what you mean, like in the sense that Checkov's a

729
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: comedy and they're like, no, in the sense that is

730
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: like funny, but it's just like a lot of like

731
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: quotes from the people who work with him that are

732
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: like this guy is real, real annoying. But it's also

733
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: like written by somebody who went to Yale with him,

734
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: so like it's like probably someone who's just like this

735
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: guy fucking he's lame. Let's write it's just I don't

736
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: think for me, another guy went to Yale, Right, yeah,

737
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hate, but you know the piece,

738
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: it's like I don't give a funk about this, Like

739
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: what I don't know. It's entertaining, like how seriously he

740
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: takes himself, But I also feel like I don't know

741
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: this idea of like the media as just the cool

742
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: kids making fun of and the cool kids in the

743
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: sense of they're not actually cool, but like they're the

744
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: popular kids making fun of sucking people who are dorks

745
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: just feels again like could we possibly make the mainstream

746
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: media more hate hate herbal? I think they've every time

747
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: I think that they've like cracked the ceiling, I'm like,

748
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: oh no, there's a whole another floor. I didn't even

749
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: realize it. Very darling ahold of my wine glass. Yeah,

750
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: And it's just to like Phil Pages and ship, because

751
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: it's also like we love Daniel day Lewis for that

752
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: ship the exact same thing. You're like, oh, d d

753
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: l like became Abraham Lincoln. Cool, but he's like a poser.

754
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: He wants to be Daniel day Lewis, Like that's legitimately.

755
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: He like idolized Daniel day Lewis and like follows him

756
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: around and like apprentices under him. But it's just like

757
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong does that's in there. Yeah, Yeah, he's like

758
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: from the time he was like in high school, he's

759
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: been obsessed with Daniel day Lewis and Dustin Hoffman and

760
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: like all the you know, if anything, it just sounds

761
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: like this article just says, bro, no better person could

762
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: play Kendall Roy than Jeremy Strong. That's right, And that

763
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: is the argument they're like right, like more than anything,

764
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: this man is living it good or bad. So yeah,

765
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: that's the whole damn point. And how dare somebody actually,

766
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: like really work hard and not put everything they have

767
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: into their dream? You know what? A loser and that

768
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: just succeeded it. Yeah, I just couldn't be that. Like

769
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: this is like one yell guy making fun of another

770
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: yell guy. It's like how that I wouldn't like this

771
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: writer either if I probably showed up with the same

772
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: cable net sweater to a party one time and held

773
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: it against him forever because he looked better in it.

774
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: I should have I should have been doing push ups

775
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: this week exactly. If Crewe hadn't been canceled Wednesday, my

776
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: arms will be looking great. Yeah, Dowey, all right, let's

777
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back,

778
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: and you know, as part of what what we've been

779
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: talking about since the show started, but you know, just

780
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: in the previous act of you know, all of us

781
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: being in a state of like kind of forced cognitive

782
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: dissonance where we're like, but that's not the truth, But

783
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: we live in a world that doesn't acknowledge the truth,

784
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: and like exists on the foundation of a lie. So

785
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: one of the kind of embarrassing for from the outside,

786
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: probably to anybody who's like kind of viewing the subjectively

787
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: in the future. One of the embarrassing trends that will

788
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: show up in history books from this period is regression,

789
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: like how much we need to regress to our childhood

790
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: to get through day to day life. And there's a

791
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: new kind of high water mark in that with this,

792
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: with this Fisher Price working baby phone. Yeah, I think

793
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: every every person knows what we're talking about. Just picture

794
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: the iconic nineteen Fisher Price chatter phone. It's a phone

795
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: with the rotary wheel and then literal like car wheels

796
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: on the side, has like a smiling face on it,

797
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: and it's all very colorful. They've made a Bluetooth enabled

798
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: accessory out of this, and the promotional photos are just

799
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: so funny to me and haunting because a lot of

800
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: the pictures are full blown adults in their thirties and

801
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: forties like using this toy phone and they're like, ha ha,

802
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm talking to mom on toy phone, and I get Look,

803
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: nostalgia is huge, but there's just something about this that

804
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: just really, I don't know, like it just to see

805
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: people seem like they're being saved by using this instead

806
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: of their phone. I think speaks volumes. But at the

807
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: same time, part I would be lying if I said

808
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: that's it's kind of funny to me, that would be

809
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: stupid to have. And I think that's kind of, you know,

810
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: sort of what the what the mission is right now

811
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: With Fisher Price, they found a new niche for themselves

812
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: to be like, come on, babies, bring it back to one,

813
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: bring it back like like re selling the products to

814
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: the adults now that they used as kids as repurposed

815
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: as like hell, yeah, this is the future. They're going

816
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: to sell an actual car that you can drive on

817
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: the highway. But it's shaped like that Fisher Price car,

818
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: like with the yellow roof, and you know people will

819
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: drive it even though you will die immediately and regularly

820
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: cameras have to put up with that ship right right, Hello,

821
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm driving a iron a car. How are you for?

822
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Like many many little takes kitchens, they're like I prefer

823
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: to actually cook in here. It's a lot simpler. We

824
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: have an open floor plan and we have a Fisher

825
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: Price kitchen. We have a kitchen has done, we had

826
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: it done by a you know, like a developer or

827
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: whatever kitchen people are called. And we had it. Yeah,

828
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: the whole thing is like your kids. It's like that's

829
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: an easy bake oven, but it's really like, you know,

830
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: very expensive of it. Yeah, really like Viking. That's a

831
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: Viking range. It's a Viking. But it's like we got

832
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: the stuff on the outside. It looks like which means

833
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: like we're fun people. Also, I noticed and do you

834
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: guys have a regular toilet in there? I just saw

835
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: the that's it and what okay, So when I'm done

836
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: with it, do you empty? Oh? Yeah, yeah, you're empty it.

837
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: We have we have people. We have people empty. Yeah.

838
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: We make them dress up like little Fisher Price work people. Yeah,

839
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: yellow helmet. Where the funk am I? But it seems like, yeah,

840
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: this trend is going to continue. But there's something this

841
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: just felt like really truly, I don't know, like we're

842
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: I I feel like this is like we're only going

843
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: to see things ramp up from here, because it does

844
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: seem like a huge thing like people love, especially with

845
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: the pandemic too, and like trying to just resort to

846
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: whatever quite literally makes you the most comfortable, and people

847
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: be like yeah, I'm just gonna wear like sick gas

848
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: pajamas or like this, like influx I've seen of like

849
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: just like leisure robes for people to wear. Everything's just

850
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: about comfort at this point. So if you need to

851
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: be a baby on your phone hard enough. I do

852
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: have a lawnmower that has a colorful ball popcorn popper

853
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: on the tope that I do my chores with. But

854
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: but that's actually that's just cool, like okay, like that

855
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me. Addressing in defense of

856
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: these people. The capitalistic model of endless growth means these

857
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: people are like listen, Fisher Price is done. We've done

858
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: it all. There's nothing else we can do. But they

859
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: still have to have meetings and stuff. So someone, what

860
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: about those what about those customers from forty years ago

861
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: that we're buying stuff I don't know selling to him? Now?

862
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Make it relevant to them now they're not babies anymore.

863
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: Has gotten as good as it can get, but not

864
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: if it shoots up little plastic pebbles when you roll

865
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: it around down to it it cuts the lawn. Right,

866
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: But you guys don't want to hear that, right, because well,

867
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: you've gone crazy across brand with Fisher Price were deer. Yeah, well,

868
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, dad watch and then suddenly like more

869
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: people are using those than like traditional you know John

870
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: Deere writing mowers like I don't know, just something about it,

871
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: man lots simpler. Yeah, can you steaks cut their fucking

872
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: lawn with those? Like you know those old push mowarers

873
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: that like there's just a rotating blade. Oh yeah, I'm

874
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: always wondering how committed like rockabilly people are. I have

875
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: seen people cutting their lawn with the Simpsons lawnmower like

876
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: that from you know, the one that's just like you

877
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: push and it has it's like wheels with like aids connecting. Yeah,

878
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I've I've seen I've

879
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: seen more and more of that, and they never look

880
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: like they're having a great time with that thing. You

881
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: were talking about time traveling? Were you talking about that

882
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: on the show? Where were you talking about that before

883
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: the show? On the show? On the show, Wednesday is

884
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: a time traveling day? What does that mean? Pretend to

885
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: be it? I think it's just a nod to like

886
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: all the science fiction shows and films that have time

887
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: travel in it. So it's like a day for people

888
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: like that. It's okay. So I'd be like, use that lawnmower. Yeah,

889
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: like using however you want to interpret it. Man, if

890
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: you want to get out there and buy a shitty

891
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: push lawnmower, a manuel lawnmower, then fucking do it. Yeah yeah,

892
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: and put on and we're like a roll up some

893
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: cigarettes in your sleeve and get up the door going

894
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and pretend it's nineteen imaginary year. Put on that little

895
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: skull cap with a propeller on top. I like when

896
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: they mix up the times, you know, like they were like,

897
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, they look like a prospect Or slash Danny

898
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Zuko slash. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like you're

899
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: wearing a Prospector. You're mixing up your genres. Those pants

900
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: are from the eighteen nineties, from nineteen fifty six. We

901
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: actually call these pants denym's. That's what the French people

902
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: called them. Then yeah, yeah, that's taking me straight to

903
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: people finding denim and old mines. That's the dream, you know.

904
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: They're they're looking at that. They like to find the cigarettes,

905
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: like the Prince Albert and they'll sometimes find a minor

906
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: cigarette from nineteen forty that's half smoked and there no they'

907
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: just pick it up and go imagine who smoked this,

908
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: which is like shit. You know, most of the Band

909
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: of Mine exploration is just imagining. I mean, that's what

910
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: it's all about. It's like, imagine who use this pick?

911
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a pick from God. The last

912
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: person who used this at a crazy mustache. By the way,

913
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: it's not all Wednesdays are pretend to be a time

914
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: traveler day. This is December eight, pretend to be a

915
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: time traveler. Yeah, we acknowledge all the international days now

916
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: at the top of our show. There's just another one

917
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: of these trends that I don't know if this one

918
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: will even make the I mean, I guess celebrity obsession

919
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: will make the history books of like just embarrassing ship

920
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: from late stage capitalism when everybody had to distract themselves

921
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: from what was happening. There's a new Justin Bieber branded

922
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Tim Horton's donnut in Collabo and people Canada are really

923
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: into it. There's promotional material with Bieber at Tim Horton's HQ.

924
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: This is this is a new trend that I noticed

925
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: in a couple of places. He is on a conference

926
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: room table, sitting in the middle of the table, like

927
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to how to do it, Like

928
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how tables and chairs work because he's

929
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: a rebel dude. That was like that reminded me of

930
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: the machine Gun Kellie thing where they're like, anybody who

931
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: thinks it's not lit to work at Spotify, check this out.

932
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: And he's like doing air guitar down the middle of

933
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: the from table. Do you remember the Office of the

934
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: British Office when David does like like motivational corporate speaking

935
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, let's take a photo really quick,

936
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: and he hops on the table and does like a

937
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds pose and they're like just standing his high

938
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: He's like British Office rules, Yeah, ex extras rules too. Yeah,

939
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, so people are they're they're also doing the

940
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: Duncan thing with the merch and it's selling out and

941
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: then being resold for lots of money. And you know,

942
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: McDonald's is launching Mariah Carry's Christmas Menu, which they have

943
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: imaginedly dubbed the Mariah Menu but literation, Yeah, what the

944
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: hell is on that? This is just like her favorites

945
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: and it's like stuff that's been there, like that's everyone's favorites,

946
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: like the Big Mac. Have you heard about this one?

947
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: The Big Mac? The Bigger who? The Big what? Now?

948
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, hey, are they calling it the like the

949
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: Big Mariah or something? For the holidays? So they've designed

950
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: it like it's a advent calendar with a different McDonald's

951
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: item every day. I can't even tell what some of

952
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: them are. But you know you got the soft baked

953
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookie, the apple pie. There's nothing novel about

954
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, you put your menu in calendar

955
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: for him and then co opted Mariah Carry's name, which,

956
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: for me personally, I refuse to believe Mariah Gary would

957
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: ever eat McDonald's. No fucking way, I don't eat McDonald's.

958
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: If I don't eat McDonald's, he's never even been near McDonald's.

959
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: That's that's just my that's just how I feel. I

960
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: don't see how these two worlds combine, but I guess

961
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: from marketing purposes, that's yeah. What's what's another one? Like?

962
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: What would be another nonbelievable cross branding? You know what

963
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean? Like anyone who's been on Friends, I feel like,

964
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: let me fucking McDonald's or Jennifer Papa John's menu exactly

965
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: right here, you probably like killed the delivery person and

966
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: hit the body like one day, Like that's that's your

967
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: closest interaction with Papa John's. The Rachel is now a

968
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: pizza whatever I'm eating knots Hi. I'm Jennifer Anderson, and

969
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: when I go to Wiener Schnitzel, you know I'm getting

970
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: chili cheese. Do refuses to eat it on camera of course,

971
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: or even even be in the same room as it, right,

972
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: or she's like they're doing anything where like she is

973
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: bringing it towards her mouth, and then they do an

974
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: insert where it's a close up of like clearly a

975
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: dude's mouth who was like to be right right right,

976
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: but like putting like a nice manicure on the hand.

977
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, come on now, we all know. That's

978
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: why I'm curious to see if this resonates, because I

979
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: think with Bieber, like you appeal to younger kids. Younger kids. Sure,

980
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: they're they're still eating junk food, have less money, but

981
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: like made by Dunkin doughnuts exactly, or you know, drifted

982
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: or fast fashion. But I just don't Mariah look carry

983
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: for Dollar General. Yeah, whenever I'm a dollar general. What

984
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: is dollar general? I feel like it's a lamb observation

985
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: to be like celebrities are our modern day like Greek gods.

986
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: But they're like that's something I've always just like kind

987
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: of thought was true. And there's this article at this

988
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: New York article about somebody who like basically documents dreams

989
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: and has been documenting dreams like during the pandemic to

990
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: see what they're if they're like shared things and all

991
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: this stuff you would expect is pretty much they're like

992
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: like what you would expect a pandemic dream to be like.

993
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: But they said that, like it's known among dreams, like

994
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: people who pay attention to and analyzed dreams, that like,

995
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: celebrities are officially like filling the purpose that gods did

996
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: in ancient Greece, like the because they were keeping track

997
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: of their dreams back then. And it's just like all

998
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: the same dreams, but just swapping celebrities instead of like zeus.

999
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's you know that Maria Bamford bit about

1000
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderston being the like the monkey that knows where

1001
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: the most bananas are, Like, would people follow celebrities because

1002
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: they have access to the most bananas basically, like that's

1003
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: the same thing where it's like back to like I

1004
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: somehow ended up like you know, I'm on YouTube, book

1005
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: and for ship, and I'll like run into something like

1006
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: you know what what Nietzsche said? You know, like some

1007
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: four minute video or is like do you want to

1008
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: know what Nietzsche is? You can say it at a

1009
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: dinner party, which I had never even been to a

1010
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: dinner party, but okay, whole different lifestyle. And I love

1011
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: that guy's YouTube videos. He's the best. That's so that's

1012
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: so sad that that's so sad that he passed away.

1013
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: He was one of my favorite e d M d js.

1014
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: E uh well, actually it's too many ease they would

1015
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: have less vowels. The Nietzi anyway, just needs you the

1016
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: whole God is dead thing, like how you know that

1017
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: period when he was talking about it was it seems

1018
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: like a long time ago, but you know it's not

1019
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: a long time agoes like two hundred years ago, which

1020
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: you know, big pictures, no time. So just the idea

1021
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: that without his point being, God is dead and then

1022
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: the culture is gonna go bananas because you know he's

1023
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: like he was talking about the secular secularization that was

1024
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: going on then, and and that was like nothing compared

1025
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: to now, you know, so it's like people really need

1026
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: to have something to do or to believe in. I mean,

1027
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: otherwise you just mill around. And that's what we're in

1028
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: right now in America. It is just this point where

1029
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: people are like don't believe in the government, They don't

1030
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: really believe in fucking anything right now, and it's a

1031
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: dangerous period. And that's where these fascists come in and say,

1032
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to believe in. We just need

1033
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: someone to yell at everybody to get people in line.

1034
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be your new God. I mean that's

1035
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: what Trump filled. I feel like that, like that was

1036
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: the thing that that revelation that like psychologically that's where

1037
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: celebrities are. They are like the modern day God's Like

1038
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: that made me less like surprised, but like more certain

1039
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: that that is like celebrities role at the center of

1040
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: our culture is probably headed for a fall, and like

1041
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: it starts, it starts making sense of the like why

1042
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: the president at like from sixteen twenty was like live

1043
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: tweeting the Oscars and just like shipping on everybody because

1044
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, like he's positioning himself as the anti like,

1045
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood celebrity. I don't know if it's on

1046
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: purpose or because they don't like him, but it works

1047
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: the same, you know. Yeah, yeah, he sees them as

1048
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: his his only competition, right, well, yeah, yeah, that's a

1049
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: that's a I just remember that. The one I remember

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Speaker 1: one of my first like interactions with Nietzsche was in

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01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: my like Lutheran elementary school, like on a field trip.

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Speaker 1: One of the teachers wore a shirt that had a quote.

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Speaker 1: It's on the front it said God is Dead, and

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Speaker 1: then it says it's subscribed to Nietzchi and then on

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Speaker 1: the back it says Nietzsche is dead, God Holy Ship.

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Speaker 1: And remember asking my dad, I was like, what is that?

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Speaker 1: He said, who had that? That sounds like critical race

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01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: theory to me? He's like that dude, He's like, have

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Speaker 1: you seen how much he starts playing that acoustic guitar.

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Speaker 1: He's not getting it in what did you just say?

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Speaker 1: Did you just say he's not getting it in no

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Speaker 1: very crude description? Is that what you said? Though? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is okay, because I don't know if that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's so sad. The new. Does that what it

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: means not getting not getting laid? Yeah, just you know,

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Speaker 1: getting you know what I'm saying, you're getting whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you're getting it in as a definitely different connotations.

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Speaker 1: I got it so Okay, So because I was over

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Speaker 1: at my friends Thanksgiving and they're they have kids, and

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Speaker 1: they were talking about now, kids say that if you're

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Speaker 1: no one ever admits there dating anybody. They just say

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Speaker 1: they're talking to them. Did you know that? Yeah, like cold,

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Speaker 1: they just say we've been talking for three months and

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Speaker 1: that means fucking yeah, Like that's what kids say, and

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Speaker 1: and and and it was girls talking to me like

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Speaker 1: young you know, teenage girls just complaining like my friends daughters.

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01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: And they were like, yeah, like these guys are just

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01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: using it as a they won't they just stay talking.

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Speaker 1: They want to stay talking because it gives them an

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: out basically, you know, it's just like that I wasn't

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Speaker 1: you're just talking Yeah, like, well yeah, we're not. They were.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're like, it's basically an idea men came

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01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: up with, so they just couldn't wouldn't have to commit

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Speaker 1: to having a girlfriend. Yeah, so you even in high

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01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: school now people are trying to be players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was growing up. You got school,

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: you think Jesus, and you asked that woman to marry you,

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: and she went to college and forgot about you. I

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: feel like every generation has their own like euphemism that,

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: but talking is like really, that's like very impersonal when

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Speaker 1: you're Yeah, because I feel like that, even because I

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Speaker 1: feel like when I was in college sort of really

1093
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: began like the earnest push to like completely obscure what

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: kind of relationship you were in. You'd be like, no, no, no,

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: we just no, we just kind of seeing each other,

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01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: like that's your fucking girlfriend, right, and you're like, na, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're just seeing each other. She's pregnant and we are

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: codependent in a very unhealthy way. It's like okay, But

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Speaker 1: I think that was just me to convince myself I

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Speaker 1: wasn't about to be my parents. I was amazed, like yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: do you Marcy take what's his name to talk to

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Speaker 1: for all eternity? I mean, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just just I was surprised by that. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course it makes sense. I mean, as

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: supposed to our model didn't work either, which was fall

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Speaker 1: in love with your high school girlfriend and say you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get married and stayed together forever until it's also

1108
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: which is also a complete madness. And then you call

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Speaker 1: her at college. Yeah, and some guy answers the phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what's what the greatest song of all time? And

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01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: she says it's just your friend and then a friend

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: and then you call. But then you call a bunch

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Speaker 1: of times. He keeps answering the phone, and then you

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Speaker 1: start to sweat, and that you is me. I prefer

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Speaker 1: just making whoopie. That's that's the term that I've prefer.

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Speaker 1: Oh you you know another another field trip thing we

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: got in trouble for my boy Nick. He wore a

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Speaker 1: hat from making Georgia that was spelled like M A

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Speaker 1: C O and like making Georgia, and he said making whoopee.

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Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, the fucking Lutherans tripped the

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Speaker 1: fuck out at the Mark Taper Theater when we went

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Speaker 1: to go see Huckleberry Finn or some ship anyway I had.

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Speaker 1: You were raised Lutheran, Miles no, no, no, I was

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Speaker 1: just like the cheapest school that my parents could afford.

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Speaker 1: H North Alicia at the time, or just that sounds

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Speaker 1: like hardcore Lutheran I think er, Oh no, no, it

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01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: was like I definitely I learned the ways of the church,

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01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: but like in a very like outside way. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not to invest in this, but interesting, interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: Miles still wears a hair shirt underneath his outer T

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Speaker 1: shirts for our recordings, just he doesn't feel comfortable or

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Speaker 1: creative or like hair shirts on podcasts anymore. About time

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Speaker 1: we changed that starts. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for this week's weekly Zeite. Guys, please like and

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Speaker 1: review the show. If you like the show, uh means

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Speaker 1: the world to Miles. He needs your validation. Folks. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk

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Speaker 1: to you Monday. By