1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: app Welcome Ron from one until four every day after 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart apps, 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: so you can listen to whatever you missed. It's the 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: podcast version, and then at John Cobelt Radio on social 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: media is how you can tract the show all the time. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: The Lake and Riley Act passed and Trump signed it today, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: and that means if an illegal alien is picked up 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 2: and he is arrested for certain criminal acts, he can 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: be deported. If they had done that with Josea Abara 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: in New York City and in Georgia, then Lake and Riley, 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: that college student would not have been murdered Augusta University. 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: She was out on a run, actually running at the 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: nearby campus of the University of Georgia, and she was 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: brutally attacked and raped and murdered. And had had had 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: the government on all levels been doing its job, should 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: never have happened. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: And now this law puts it in black and white. 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: What must be done next time you run into a 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Josea bar Let's get art Arthur on from the Center 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: for Immigration Studies to talk about this, because this is 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: this is quite a landmark today art. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: How are you, John, I'm doing great and thank you 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: for having me to dad. I wish we could be 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: talking about the American citizen who had managed to live. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: But uh, this bill is a fitting tribute to her life. 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: Talk about the specifics of the bill. Uh, what what 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: what types of crimes does it cover? And what are 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: the responsibilities of various law enforcement if they run into 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: a character like jose Barr what are they what must 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: they do? 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: Now? 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: So a bar and his brother were actually arrested in Athens, Georgia, 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: which is where the killing took place, for tented shoplifting 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: from the local walmart. 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: And he also had an arrest in New York for 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: endangering a child. But what this bill covers, what this 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: bill requires is it forces DHS to take into custody 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: any person who entered the United States illegally who has 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: been arrested for burglary, theft, larceny, shoplifting, or assaultable law 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: enforcement officer, or any crime that results in death or 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: serious bodily injury. So these are the kind it's you know, 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: a reactionary bill because it reacts to a horrible criminal event. 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: But it's also a common sense bill because you know, 47 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: these folks are here illegally and they turn around and 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: they commit one of these crimes. And we know one 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: of the things we know about criminality is that most 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: criminals are upward defenders. Murder in broad daylight, which is 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: what happened in Lake and Riley's case, you know, isn't 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: the first crime most of those people commit. They commit 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: They start out committing these you know, theft defense and shoplifting, robbery, 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: and then they upward offend the more serious crimes. It'll 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: get those people off the streets. It'll also give state 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: attorneys general, probably not the state attorney general in California, 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: but other state attorneys general the power to sue the 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: federal government to force DHS to take people like this 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: into custody, to not release migrants at the border, to 60 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, hold criminal aliens until they can be deported. 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: In addition to that, it also gives those state attorneys 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: general the ability to block wide scale parole programs the 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: sort that we saw under the Biden administration. More than 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: two point two million in admissible aliens were you know, 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: simply waved into the United States under those programs. So 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: it's not going to be possible for another Biden administration 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: to come along and simply, you know, flout the laws 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: that Congress has passed as easily as the. 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Last one did. 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: So all the mandates are on Department of Homeland Security. 71 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Are the mandates on local police or sheriff departments to 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: turn these over to DHS immediately? 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: No, And that's really the big flaw in this law, 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: and quite frankly, it would be impossible, unfortunately, to pass 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: such a law. This law is depended upon not the 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: street cops. The street cops want to get the criminals 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: off the street and they want, you know, bad criminals 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: gone for good, which is what deportation does. It's those 79 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: political officials, the you know, the elected chiefs of police, 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: the mayor of the city council, people like that, who 81 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: put up ridiculous sanctuary city laws that only you know, 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: provide sanctuary to criminals. Those sanctuary city laws not only 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: don't help you know, otherwise law abiding unauthorized individuals in 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: the United States, but in fact they harm them because 85 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: most of these ailing criminals come from immigrant communities. Much 86 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: of the Lincoln Riley was exceptional because you know, she 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: was the United States and it was adversely affected. But 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: we saw so many of these crimes take place that 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: you know, the media couldn't turn away from it. They 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: had to report it, and that's why we know what happened. 91 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: One thing we were talking about at lengths last hour 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: is Tom Holman has been going on television. You've seen 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: the Ice Raids on TV, and they've gone through a 94 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: laundry list of the suspects that they've picked up, these 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: illegal aliens and all the crimes that they have either 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: been convicted of in the past or that they're suspected 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: of committing in recent times. And it is just the 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: worst crimes. It's all types of murders, rapes, sexual assaults, 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: child sexual salt, pedophilia. I mean, I mean, honestly, you 100 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: pick like the ten worst crimes on the books, and 101 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: these guys have committed them. 102 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: And what keeps standing out is. 103 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: Why would let's say, a mayor of Los Angeles, Karen 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 2: Bass not want to help Holman and his ice crew 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: to get rid of these characters. At a Los Angeles 106 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: we are not talking about maids and gardeners and little 107 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: children and Grandma's we're talking about monsters, I mean, psychotic, 108 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: violent monsters. Why wouldn't a Karen Bass or the La 109 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: City Council help ICE get these guys out of the city. 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: Well, the simple answer is that it's the you know, 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: dangerous confluence of sanctimony and ignorance. On the one hand, 112 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: they're ignorant of the fact that, you know, ICE is 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: there to protect the American people. But the sanctimonious part 114 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: is when they, you know, appeal to some portion of 115 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: the electorate, you know, and tell them that they're taking 116 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: a tough stand. Remember Denver Mayor, the Denver Mayor said 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: he was going to, you know, form a group of 118 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: people who are going to block ICE from coming in 119 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: from doing what from taking your rapists off the street, 120 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: from getting your child molesters, your robbers, your kidnappers. I mean, 121 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: it's so utterly bri it's insane. 122 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: How can a public official cling to a notion that insane? 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. If you saw the New York Times 124 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: Paul eighty seven percent of the country, eighty seven percent 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: agreed that criminal aliens ought to be deported. The percentage 126 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: of people who wanted the aliens to be left alone 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: was only ten percent. So who is Karent best representing exactly? 128 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: I had no idea. I wasn't in Los Angeles when 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: she got elected. But she's not doing anything other than 130 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: what she promised to do on the stump. And you know, 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: it is one of those situations where the voters really 132 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: need to, you know, wake up and look around and 133 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: see what's being done in their name, because every one 134 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: of these acts is being done in the name of 135 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, the people who voted for these folks and 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: the electorate as a whole. So yeah, I mean, you know, 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: it is that ten percent of the population, who you know, 138 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: is who either has their head in the sand or alternatively, 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: they are so open minded that they think, you know, 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: even criminals should be allowed to, you know, seek a 141 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: better life in the United. 142 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: All right, but it's only ten percent. 143 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: Okay, the ten percent of the country is out of 144 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: their minds on many issues. But it's I mean, why 145 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: is why does a Karen Bass represent ten percent when 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: eighty seven percent of the public, including I think a 147 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: huge percentage of Democrats, want these guys put away, deported, 148 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: never to be seen again. 149 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm just astonished by this. 150 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: Which is, you know, really underscores John, how important the 151 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: role that Tom Homan is playing right now, because part 152 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: of that role is public relations, part of that role 153 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: is political. I mean plainly, you know, he's out there 154 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: and forcing the laws, out there with the officers and 155 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: agents who are enforcing the law. But part of it 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: is to underscore exactly the points that you're making. Look, 157 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: these are the people that were going after, These are 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: the dangers that we're taking off the street. This is 159 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: the impact that this is having on the lives of 160 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: Lake and Riley and tens of Earf, not hundreds of 161 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: Lake and Riley whose names we just don't know. Which 162 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: is you know why. It was a masterstroke on Trump's 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: part to make Tom hommand the borders are you know, 164 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: that's not a role that exists in our political order, 165 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: but he created it so that there'd be somebody out 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: there who could put names and faces to the bad 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: people who are harming our communities. 168 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: All Right, Art Arthur from Center for Immigration Studies, thank 169 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: you for coming on. Thanks so much, John, all right, 170 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: and we're gonna continue more. 171 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 5: six forty. 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: Alex Stone is coming up after the two thirty news. 174 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: He's got audio from the La County Sheriff's Department of 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: two deputies. This is bodycam audio checking a senior living 176 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: apartment in Altadena, and there's a one hundred year old 177 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: woman standing in there with a walker and she's the 178 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: last one left. 179 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 6: It was so crazy. I saw the video this morning 180 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 6: on the news. 181 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I will. I assume he's got the audio 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: and we'll play. Sure we have a co Lee report 183 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: and talk about it. 184 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: Edison. 185 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: I think we explained yesterday again how terribly dangerous these 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: utility companies are to our lives. Southern California. Edison some 187 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: years ago was found liable for the twenty seventeen Thomas 188 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: wildfire in Santa Barbara and Ventura Counties, and it is 189 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: now it's now asking to pass the one point six 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars in damages it has to pay. Wants to 191 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: pass that cost to the right pairs. 192 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 7: Now, who in their right mind is going to agree 193 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 7: to that. 194 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: It's the California Public Utilities Commission. 195 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 6: Okay, So the California Public Utilities Commission should say you 196 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 6: are nuts, you are responsible. 197 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 7: Why would you make innocent people pay more? 198 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: Edison also wants us to cover five and a half 199 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: billion dollars from the Woolsey fire in Ventura and La Counties, 200 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: so you'll get they if they pass. If the Public 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: Utilities Commission passes both measures, Edison customers will have a 202 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: two percent surcharge on their bills for the next thirty years. 203 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 6: No thirty years, but no, seriously, this makes zero sense. 204 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 6: So you're you're trying, You're you're making innocent people pay 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 6: more money for a problem that it. 206 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: Was your fault. Punish the customers, punish the customers. 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: The customers pay you billions of dollars to run your 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: electrical system properly. They refuse to spend money on burying 209 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: the transmission line. 210 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 6: Which makes first of all, that should be the number 211 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 6: one priority. Not only is it dangerous, but it's ugly. 212 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: Who wants to see those lines everywhere? I sure don't. 213 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: And they don't bury the lines, they don't de energize 214 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: the lines in time, and then the fires break out 215 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: and let people die, and. 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 6: Then there's u and then they have to pay for lawsuits. 217 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 6: So now that they're going to be transferring money to 218 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 6: the innocent people paid so much money to them. 219 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 7: In the first place. 220 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: It's always our fault. It's our fault for being a customer. 221 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 6: But somebody needs to talk to the California Public Utilities 222 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 6: Commission and say, and a story, this is stupid. 223 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: Well, they don't have the money. See, they end up 224 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: going bankrupt, and then they go bankrupt. And when PG 225 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: and E was going bankrupt, Knewsom set up a taxpayer fund. 226 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: Yah. 227 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 7: I know, Well there has to be a different way. 228 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 6: There has to be a fund. You can't go back 229 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 6: to the taxpayers. The taxpayers they suffered enough if we 230 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 6: had fires. 231 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: If we had some kind of like at least a 232 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: public humiliation ritual for the energy executive. 233 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 7: Absolutely we should. 234 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: We'd get that kind of satisfaction out of it. 235 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 7: Oh, you should do that. 236 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: It's like I'll pay. 237 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: The two percent increase, but you know, I want to 238 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: watch you barbecue for a few hours. 239 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 240 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 7: This is this is maddening, This is insane. 241 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: I it says here the the company would only get 242 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: probably sixty percent of the two and a half billion 243 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: dollars it requested for the Thomas fire, So a billion 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: would have to be picked up by the company and 245 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: its shareholders. And so I mean that's the money they're 246 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 2: looking to get covered, and people are on fixed incomes, and. 247 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people could barely afford. 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: You know, electric prices here in this state are twice 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: as much as the rest of the country because of 250 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: all the green energy mandate. 251 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 7: Well, there's no rhyme or reason. 252 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I told you I'm a DWP customer, and 253 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 6: I don't understand it. I mean, we could be gone 254 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: for weeks and our bill will be higher than it 255 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 6: was when we were home for weeks. 256 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Well, the whole system seems corrupt, Like the whole industry 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: seems corrupt. All I know is that the executives from 258 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: these companies walk away with multimillion dollar parachutes every time 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: something bad happens, and it's so bad that they have 260 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: to clean house. They have to clean the executives out. 261 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind having a seven hundred and fifty thousand 262 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 6: dollars a year salary head of the d doos. 263 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, Yeah, yes, And you don't even 264 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: have to fill up the reservoir. 265 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: By the way, is anyone going to address that reservoir? 266 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: You just have a whole public world has gone silent 267 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: on that nothing happens. 268 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 6: You know, you were asking why people are still going 269 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 6: to support Gaven Newsome and are in Bass because people 270 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 6: forget about that and they're looking at what they're doing now, 271 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 6: holding the news conference and trying to keep everybody safe 272 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 6: and having people return to their homes. 273 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: And I and also they have not explained what caused 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: the Palisades fire yet. They floated the theory and it 275 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: wasn't that they didn't have any convincing evidence necessarily, but 276 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: they said, well, maybe it was that fireworks issue from 277 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: a week earlier, or maybe it was but that went 278 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: went dead too. Wow, we have an after action report 279 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: that's going to come out in six months. I don't 280 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: want to wait six months. 281 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not it's it's ridiculous. And fireworks should be illegal. 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 6: I know people are not going to agree they are illegal, 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: but there should stop them. 284 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 7: I know, there has to be a way. Yeah, that 285 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 7: was stupid that I said that they're not illegal. 286 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 6: Because they are, but there has to be there has 287 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 6: to be some serious punishment. You know, I saw a 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: lit cigarette in my neighborhood the other day, right with 289 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: the winds and whatever. 290 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 7: I mean, people are just so. 291 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: It's tough living with the species. We got a lot 292 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: of stupid people really do it. A lot of stupid 293 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: we do. Destructive people and impulsive people, and uh you 294 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: get you get teenagers on New Year's Eve getting drunk 295 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: and blowing off fireworks. I don't know how you control that. 296 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 6: And I don't care when people get hurt when they're 297 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 6: doing that, because it's just one less person that's going 298 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 6: to do it next year. 299 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: When they blow their hands off. I laugh, like the guy, 300 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: what was it the Lakers celebration, Dodgers Dodgers, Dodger celebration, 301 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: right blue his handoff? 302 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 6: No, that would stop it already with the fireworks for 303 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 6: every little thing too. 304 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 305 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: six forty. 306 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: We're on every day one to four after four o'clock 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: John Cobolt Show on demand. Let's get to Alex Stone. 308 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: This heartbreaking story. At least it didn't end tragically, the 309 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: one hundred year old woman who was left behind in 310 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: a senior living apartment in Alta Data when the big 311 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: fires hit. Alex. You got some audio of, yeah, yeah, 312 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: this is pretty incredible audio to here. And so the 313 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: eaton fire we all know was exploding the morning of 314 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: January eighth, and that's when buildings were going up in flames. 315 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: It was a one hundred mile per hour winds. They 316 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: were beginning to subside as the sun came up on 317 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: the eighth. There were two well A County Sheriff's deputies 318 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: who aren't even assigned to Altadena, but they moved into 319 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: to hell bout. 320 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: They were put on the fire area and. 321 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: They were assigned to clear and already evacuated senior living complex. 322 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: They thought it was already evacuated, and they were sent 323 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: over just to double check, make sure everybody's out of there, 324 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: nobody's going in there. Deputy Quinn Alconis and Deputy Nicholas Martinez, 325 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: and they got there and immediately they knew there was 326 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: an issue. That there was an elderly confused resident out 327 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: front walking a dog, just like nothing was going on, 328 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: even though the fire was moving in and in the 329 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: buildings all around the area. This is what it sounded 330 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: like on the body worn camera as they got unseen 331 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: right now. So they told that resident to wait there 332 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: while they went inside, that they would be back to 333 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: take them out of the fire area, take them to safety, 334 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: but first they had to go inside the evacuated smokey, dark, 335 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: without electricity. They thought empty senior living home to double check, 336 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: and the fire was moving in all around. You can 337 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: hear them as they go through beginning to clear the building. 338 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: They're also watching out for their own safety, to make 339 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: sure that the building doesn't begin to burn. 340 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 8: Apartment. Anybody inside Sarah's apartment, anybody inside just like monitor 341 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 8: looking out the windows to see, like where the fire? 342 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: Oh, shoot that shirt. 343 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 6: It's gone. 344 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: So then John, They hear a faint voice down the 345 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: hallway and they run toward it. 346 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, where are you? 347 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: Where are you? Oh? 348 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: Hi? 349 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: Okay? 350 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: Perfect? 351 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Is there anyone else with you? 352 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 8: Where were you at? 353 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 4: What? Which room were you from? I've been trying to 354 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: find a way out. 355 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: Let's get you. 356 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: Out here, Let's get you out in the darkness. There 357 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: she was using a walker and had somehow been left 358 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: behind with everybody else gone, everybody else evacuated that it 359 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: appears a staff and all the other residents. She didn't 360 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: hear the orders to get out when everybody else left, 361 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 2: because she uses hearing aids and they were charging and 362 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: she told them this, don't worry. 363 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 4: Okay, thank goodness, we've been yelling. Did you hear us 364 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 4: I didn't hear I'm deaf, okay. 365 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: Shocked my hearing one hundred years old that asked of 366 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: don't lose me. And so we caught up with the 367 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: deputies today, Alconis and Martinez, and they they told us 368 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: that they wanted to treat her like they would hope 369 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: that their mother or grandmother if they had to deal 370 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: with the police and a wildfire, how they would be 371 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: dealt with. 372 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: And Deputy Elconis told. 373 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: Us, I was shocked, and I was relieved. I was 374 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 4: relieved that we were able to be that for this lady, 375 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: that we were able to save her and you know, 376 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: comfort her and get additional units there so that we 377 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: could help her down the stairs because she also had 378 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: a walker and it was kind of tough for her 379 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: to get downstairs and things like that. 380 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: And John, Deputy Martinez, said he's never experienced anything like 381 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: this where they went into a building thinking it was 382 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: empty and then they hear this voice in the darkness 383 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: saying help. 384 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 9: Back in my mind, I hope that everyone was out, 385 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 9: so you typically when I've walked many empty hallways searching 386 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 9: for things, but I'd never had anyone go out hill before. 387 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: So it was definitely very concerning. We got her out 388 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: to safety as soon as. 389 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: Possible, so it's not clear how she got left behind. 390 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: Nobody did a head count. Well, that's the question. The 391 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: senior living apartment, it's kind of off of Lake in Altadena, 392 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: ended up not burning, but they've been closed for a 393 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: while because they're in the fire zone and smoke damage 394 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: and everything. She's going to be all right. The LA 395 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: Sheriff's bartman tells us they're working now to reunite. But 396 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: did they have on site management there? I mean, she 397 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: was in the body cam. There was nobody there, but 398 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: normally I mean, I mean normally there would be. There 399 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: was a front desk, and I mean it looked like 400 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: walking into a hotel. I can tell you after covering 401 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: the Santa Rosa fires in twenty seventeen that there was 402 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: at least one senior living center where the staff abandoned 403 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: it and people were left and they had no way 404 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: to get out, so they left the elderly behind. Yeah, 405 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 2: neighbors moved in and started calling police and firefighters went 406 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: through the flames, and they called in city buses through 407 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: the fire. It was there's a book about it now. 408 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: It's incredible where they brought in. These city bus drivers 409 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: were going driving through the fire to get up to 410 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: Fountain Grove in Santa Rosa to get people out, and 411 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: they literally in beds and in wheelchairs, just took them 412 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: and put them on these buses and got them out. 413 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: So this is not that, but somehow she got left behind. 414 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: But we don't know how. You would think they would 415 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: have a whole battle plan in case fire breaks out, 416 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: so that employees, everybody gets a you know, different quadrant, 417 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: a different floor, and maybe they do. I mean everybody else, 418 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: minu person walking their dog out front, everybody else was 419 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: out of the building. And so somehow she seems to 420 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: have got overlooked. Whether they looked in her room and she, 421 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: you know, was in the bathroom in that moment, I 422 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: don't know, and we don't have a good answer for that. 423 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: The sh Sheriff's department doesn't either, and if there will 424 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: be an investigation, we don't know. But but she was 425 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: still there looking for a way out. That was funny 426 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: when they said, didn't you hear us I'm deaf? Yeah, 427 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: that's but she's all right. But yeah, like I said, 428 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: they want to they want to reunite Alcohoniz and Martinez 429 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: with her so they can give her a hug. 430 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 431 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's quite a moment to have it recorded. 432 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, you got it. Thanks you, Alex Stone, 433 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: ABC News. I'm not up in one of those places 434 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: that that's it now convinced. 435 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: But if that was your mom or your grandmother, can 436 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 6: you imagine how you would feel that she was left behind? 437 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, that's out of everybody. I really would 438 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: you have to. 439 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 7: Do a head count. You have to. 440 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 6: You're putting them, you're loading them on buses, I presume, 441 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 6: and you're you're taking them to safety, and you're missing 442 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: a one hundred year old woman. 443 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: She stands out. She's got to be the oldest person there, absolutely, 444 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: and she can still move around. How did they Nobody 445 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 2: thought of her? Yeah? 446 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: I would think. 447 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: Because they don't they all the care because my mother 448 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 6: in law is one of the in one of those 449 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 6: sen you're living at us and everybody is assigned somebody. 450 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I'm saying. 451 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 7: They would know, wouldn't they go through. 452 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: Regular routines of emergencies. 453 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: I mean, we have plenty of emergencies in southern California, 454 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: be any number of. 455 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 6: Things, right, but that or you're just so freaked out 456 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 6: that this fire is coming that you just you just 457 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 6: want to get out. 458 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 7: You don't care about anybody else. 459 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: No retirement home for me. That's it. Back to the 460 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: exit bag plan. 461 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty. 462 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to talk with 463 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: Jake Coogan. He was with a volunteer fire group that 464 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom put together a few years ago and then disbanded. 465 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: Why was it disbanded? 466 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: It was a volunteer group and they could have been 467 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: used for the fire problems that we had a few 468 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: weeks ago. We'll talk with Jay coming up. This drone 469 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: story yesterday the news broke I think during during the 470 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 2: show and after thinking about it and reading some more 471 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: news stories. They didn't explain anything that we didn't already 472 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: know or could have easily guessed. They said that the 473 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: all the drones over New Jersey, and there were hundreds 474 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: and hundreds of them for weeks. Was it was it 475 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: was approved by the authorized by the FAA. But they 476 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: never said, well, whose drones were they? The FAA authorized 477 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: that they could fly. They made it sound like these 478 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: drones belonged to the FAA. They didn't. It wasn't the enemy, 479 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: I guess not, or they would have been fired upon. 480 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: So is this a classified military experiment that they did well? 481 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 6: But wouldn't they just say that, Hey, we can't talk 482 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: about it, it's classified. End of story. But again, we're 483 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 6: still we're still talking about it. We're still wondering. 484 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 7: People were totally freaked out about it at first. 485 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: When it's classified, are you allowed to say it's classified? 486 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 7: Say it's classified. 487 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 6: You just can't say how you can't explain the classification, right, 488 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 6: I mean, you can say it's classified. 489 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 7: That's not giving away anything because. 490 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: They and she was very abruptly dismissive about it. I 491 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: know everybody was raving over this woman. 492 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: Yesterday, seven years Frescoss. 493 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I know, but they're all the same. It doesn't matter 494 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: who they are. 495 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: They don't actually answer the questions and they don't give 496 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: the details and the context in the background. So I'm 497 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm still as curious as I was before. You know, 498 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: Trump didn't clear anything up. And they also haven't explained 499 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: why the FAA didn't tell New Jersey law enforcement or 500 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: New Jersey politicians or the public all this, all this 501 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: information going all the way back to November. If it 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: was nothing, then why didn't you say it was nothing 503 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: back in November. 504 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 7: That's the problem. Just be honest. 505 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 6: This is why I can't stand Paul politics and politicians, 506 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 6: because nobody's honest. If you're honest, you're gonna you're gonna 507 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 6: make people feel so much better, especially a situation like 508 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 6: this classified. It's classified, we can't talk about it. But 509 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 6: you know what, everybody's going to be. Okay, you're not 510 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 6: in any danger. 511 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 7: You don't need to worry. 512 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: I still wont to know what the experiment was because 513 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: it looked like something for the military. 514 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 6: Right now, If it's classified, they can't tell you, and 515 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: if it isn't classified, then they should tell you. 516 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: They also at the time put temporary flight restrictions over 517 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: parts of New Jersey for special security reasons. They didn't 518 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: explain why they did that at the same time saying 519 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: that the drones were were benign. There's just like a 520 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: lot of contradictions, and so she was so dismissive of 521 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: the whole thing, saying everything's fine, don't worry about it, because. 522 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 6: That's what she's told to do, I know, which And 523 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 6: then you kind of think, well, then, why are you 524 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 6: even talking about it. 525 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 7: You're not going to give us the information. 526 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: See, the FAA's role is to ensure that drones operate 527 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: safely within the broader national airspace system. It's legal to 528 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: operate drones under four hundred feet if you comply with 529 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: all the rules, got to avoid restricted airspace. 530 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 6: Why shold you that drone was flying by my bedroom window? 531 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, right, Well that was your creepy neighbor though, 532 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 6: Well that was a real estate agent trying to the. 533 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: Creepy real estate agent, yes, exactly, trying to take photos 534 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: of you getting ready for bed. Yeah, uh huh, using 535 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: his sales brochure. Hey, look what the neighbors are like, Hey, 536 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: you want to move This lady keeps her windows wide open. 537 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: We come back. 538 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: We're going to talk now about the Jay Coogan. He 539 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: was part of a volunteer fire group that the state 540 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: put together, Gavin Newsom did, and then Newsom disbanded it 541 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: without any explanation. 542 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: And maybe he could have been used to. 543 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: Fight the fires, especially early on when we were way 544 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: short of manpower. We've got Debor Mark here and doing 545 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: the news today. Island. 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