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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huts. Giants Giants

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Speaker 1: give me some part of the Giants Podcast Networks Roll.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our Friday episode of the Giants Total Podcast.

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Speaker 2: John Schmulck with you. It's all brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 2: the official bank of the New York Football Giants. Our

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Speaker 2: usual Friday fair. Bob Poppa will talk to the head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Giants, Brian Dable. Lance Meadow will talk

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Speaker 2: to Jeff Duncan, he writes for The Times. Picky Yoon

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Speaker 2: down there in New Orleans, covers the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 2: He will give us the lowdown and everything happening with

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Speaker 2: the Giants opponent this week. But first we're gonna lead

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Speaker 2: off with my interview with Giants rookie cornerback Deontay Banks.

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Speaker 2: End of this week's Giants Spotlight is Giants rookie cornerback

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Speaker 2: Deontay Banks. Hey, good to see it, man.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? I guess let's start with this. I

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Speaker 2: like to ask the rookies this later in the year, right,

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Speaker 2: do you still feel like a rookie? Nah?

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Speaker 3: Alrighty, I fell out there now I really fe like

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Speaker 3: a vet. I a't gonna lie, but I'm out there.

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Speaker 2: Why do you fly that?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm I'm out there trying to make place. I'm

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Speaker 3: starting to feel it more. I'm starting to just notice

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Speaker 3: e anything more. It's starting to just slow down for me.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the rookie wall deal, but a regular

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Speaker 2: college season, you're already on with the break like you

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Speaker 2: done done. So like, how does the body feel like? Mentally?

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Speaker 2: How have you kind of handled having a much longer year?

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Speaker 3: Body feel cool sor right? Are you starting to get there?

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Speaker 3: Because we ain't what we I think this week fifteen,

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Speaker 3: I believe were Yeah, you're getting there in there, so

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Speaker 3: it's cool. Mentally, I'm there always. I just want to

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Speaker 3: I just always want to go out there and win.

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Speaker 2: So when Wink talked to the media earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: he talked about how he was very protty or for

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Speaker 2: all the tackles he got to kind of challenge you

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Speaker 2: during the week, Yeah, to make those tackles. Talk about

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Speaker 2: that conversation and and just how that whole thing came about.

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Speaker 3: I mean just said like you got there and so on,

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Speaker 3: so that you need to go that you need to tackle.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that you want to that you that

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Speaker 3: you can't tackle, I'm sorry. So I went out there

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Speaker 3: and try to put them from that because last week, uh, Patriock,

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Speaker 3: I think it was. It was it a Patriots. I

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Speaker 3: think it was a Patriots. Patriots played them. They was

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of right now is too. Also, they

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Speaker 3: was getting us a lot of right now passes and

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Speaker 3: I had to go make tackles but there wasn't as many.

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Speaker 3: But and on film and the package showed that they

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Speaker 3: did the same thing, but they didn't really come out

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Speaker 3: there and do that. But I still came out there

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Speaker 3: and had total tackle. Was not sol though, So it

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Speaker 3: was cool. It was a good game for me.

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Speaker 2: Now you're going in college that put that on tape,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sure. I'm sure. As someone that likes to

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Speaker 2: be physical, I'm sure. And the DC says that to you, like, well, wait,

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Speaker 2: hold on, people don't think I want to tackle? Huh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to show you right for sure.

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Speaker 3: Easy.

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Speaker 2: You talk about feeling like event, where do you think

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Speaker 2: you've made the most improvements this year as a player?

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Speaker 3: Mental just mentally, like just knowing what's coming, seeing it first,

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Speaker 2: Really, how much of that is the film work you

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Speaker 2: how much is it instinctually understanding based on formation spacing,

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Speaker 3: Yet it's really both because my coach, coach Rum does

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Speaker 3: to split that stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And do you sense that's still getting better? Is the

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Speaker 3: Course? Always, it's always provement for me, honestly, and by fire.

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Speaker 3: It's only my rook years, so of course I just

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Speaker 2: Has anything caught you by surprise at all? I'll show

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Speaker 2: Has anything been different than what you thought it would be?

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Speaker 3: Not really different. I really like it the NFL. Like

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Speaker 3: It made me want to be here for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I guess, real fun. I enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: It seems like you really enjoy getting matched up against

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Speaker 2: play because after you've caused for forcing completions, huh. I

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Speaker 3: Really, it's just me like going out there playing and

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Speaker 3: So I just both competing on there let's win.

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Speaker 2: Do you like to travel with one guys?

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Speaker 3: Travel to travel?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: Just because I I fel like if I can take

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Speaker 2: I don't want to use the word easy, because none

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Speaker 2: of this is easy. But do you like sticking with

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Speaker 2: Or is it easier to play one side and then

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I like to really is travel.

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Speaker 3: I really would like to travel. I also like playing

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Speaker 3: left right. It's cool, but I didn't done both, so

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Speaker 3: it don't really matter which one I can. I can

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Speaker 2: Now the fun thing about traveling you also have to

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Speaker 2: I know it's still corner, but it's kind of a

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Speaker 3: It is a different position. It's to be honest, it's

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Speaker 3: harder because it's more space and it's hot. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: more space, so you really got to be on tire,

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Speaker 2: I know you like playing man. But the team has

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Speaker 2: thrown some more zone in there over the past few weeks, right,

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Speaker 2: so what has that been? And I know you did

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Speaker 3: I actually have two picks in the zone right now.

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Speaker 3: Both of my intersections game is on coverage, so great?

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Speaker 2: Was no? I agree? And my follow up was going

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Speaker 2: you to create some more takeaways?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I actually dropped on this past week, and I'm

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Speaker 3: misjudged it. But now I just dropped in. I could

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Speaker 3: have had three on a year.

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Speaker 2: Have the guys in the room and giving your hard

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Speaker 2: time about that this week.

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Speaker 3: Not really because it was a tough catch. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was tough, but like going going into week seven, that

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Speaker 3: was mine. When I got my first one, they was like,

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Speaker 3: you need to pick, you need to get on the board,

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Speaker 3: that's all. That's all. Like, I need to go get one,

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Speaker 3: and I got one, and I got another myself. I've

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Speaker 3: been just trying to keep getting man. She was trying

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Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to ask about this on defense,

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Speaker 2: because I know that's how you have gotten your picks

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Speaker 2: past deflection this past week, right, Yeah, so take me

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Speaker 2: through that play. Obviously, I'm sure you don't want to

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Speaker 2: But then here comes to closing to be talked to.

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Speaker 3: No, Actually, like I was really like I've seen it

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Speaker 3: But then like I kind of pushed him because, like

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Speaker 3: you know, you can trip over somebody's feet, So I

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Speaker 3: like pushed him a little bit. That's how I created separation.

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Speaker 2: He's funny, I thought he pushed off for you.

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Speaker 3: I kind of like pushed into him. Like if you

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Speaker 3: if you like really trust somebody behind him, you might

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Speaker 3: can trip and fall. And if I trip and fall,

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Speaker 3: and then that's a touchdown. So I'm trying to like

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Speaker 3: and then I just reacted to the ball.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you've made improvements getting your head back

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Speaker 2: around to locate the ball in the air as the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, definitely definitely got a better way that.

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Speaker 2: How do you know when the balls in the air?

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Speaker 2: Are you looking at the wide receiver's face so you're

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Speaker 3: You look at the receiver, really, you look at it

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Speaker 3: eyes like sometimes eyes get big or if he look,

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Speaker 3: I look, if he turned, I turned.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the team defense, right, let's

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Speaker 2: do it. Why? Why is the defense at least in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, I think you guys are taking it to

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Speaker 2: another level the last few weeks. What have you guys

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Speaker 2: been doing better as a unit that's allows you to

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Speaker 2: play at a higher level?

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Speaker 3: My face, We've been communicating, communicating better anything. I feel

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Speaker 3: like we just got to like got a family. It's

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Speaker 3: a family over there on the defensive side, and everybody

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Speaker 3: just play hard. We play for each ovel every week

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Speaker 3: and snap every snap. So we're just gonna keep trying

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Speaker 2: And we talked about it with his own defense. But

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Speaker 2: you've also had a lot of forced turnovers with strips

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Speaker 2: and fumbles. So what is it about the way the

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Speaker 2: team's been playing together that's allowed you to get twelve

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Speaker 2: to fourteen takeaway He's part of me in the last

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Speaker 2: four games, twelve in the last three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, it's been trying to and we emphasize, like bro,

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Speaker 3: we need to get turnovers because we want offense to

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Speaker 3: get out there and get more chances on trying to

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Speaker 3: score because we need to win.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Let's talk about the matchup real quick and then

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Speaker 2: we'll say goodbye it. I looked it up. Never faced

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Speaker 2: Chrys o'lave in college.

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Speaker 3: Right, I played him, but I ain't really play him,

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Speaker 3: you feel me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like what was my freshman year? We wasn't as good

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Speaker 3: what number two team in the country I had chasing

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Speaker 2: And you win by taking one play at a time

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Speaker 6: The Giants and Saints meet in New Orleans for the

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Speaker 6: second time in three seasons Sunday, Big Blue One. The

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Speaker 2: Jeff, you got Lance.

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Speaker 6: Meadow here on Giants dot Com. Greatly appreciate the time,

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Speaker 4: Everything's great, Lance. You know we're entering the final month

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Speaker 6: The seasonte Parity defines the National Football League, and it

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Speaker 6: start with the Saints from a big picture perspective, Jeff.

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Speaker 6: They brought in Derek Carr this offseason. I think the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say it's been very disappointing. Lance. The team's

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Speaker 6: Speaking of the environment, It's interesting, Jeff, because you were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally fair assessment and totally true. You know, the

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Taysom Mill is definitely going to play.

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Speaker 4: And he adds a huge a huge playmaking threat for

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Speaker 6: I'm curious because I mentioned off the top, harr has

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Speaker 6: been banged up this season, not an excuse, just the

438
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Speaker 6: reality of the circumstance. And how many games has he

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Speaker 6: not been able to finish where somebody else has had

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Speaker 6: to come in, whether it be a head injury, rib injury,

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Speaker 6: shoulder injury. How much has that limited his ability to

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Speaker 6: employ the deep ball within this offense? And give this

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Speaker 6: offense a little bit additional explosion.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's had to be a contributing factor. We've noticed

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Speaker 4: the three his three worst games of the season, Lance

446
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Speaker 4: have all come in games after he left the previous

447
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Speaker 4: game with an injury, So I think, you know that's

448
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Speaker 4: not coincidental. Right now, he was able to connect on

449
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Speaker 4: a forty four yard play last week in the fourth quarter,

450
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Speaker 4: kind of open things up with at Perry, Who's a

451
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Speaker 4: young rookie from Wake Forest who's coming on right now,

452
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Speaker 4: a guy that I think will have a brighter days

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Speaker 4: ahead in this offense. But he's a rookie, and we

454
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Speaker 4: all know rookies, you know, it's a lot thrown at

455
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Speaker 4: them young in their early in their career. So I

456
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Speaker 4: just think it's a work in progress. I mean, Carolina's

457
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Speaker 4: kind of playing out the string here, and the Saints

458
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Speaker 4: had thirty nine passing yards with nine minutes left in

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Speaker 4: the game. I mean, that's not good enough. The standard

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Speaker 4: here that the fans have seen from the Drew brees

461
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Speaker 4: Sean Payton days, you know, they recognize that, they recognize

462
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Speaker 4: it's not good enough right now. And also the context

463
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Speaker 4: of who your opponent is certainly factors into I think

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Speaker 4: the anxiety level of the fan base.

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Speaker 6: They only had two hundred seven total yards in that

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Speaker 6: entire game that you just referenced, and they also got

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Speaker 6: a special teams block that returned for a score, So

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Speaker 6: I think that's important to note. It wasn't just the offense,

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Speaker 6: but what I have noticed Jeff last two games seven

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Speaker 6: of eight in the red zone, and I would think

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Speaker 6: that's pretty encouraging in terms of their ability to at

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Speaker 6: least finished drives or capitalize when they're inside the opponent's twenty.

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Speaker 6: Any positives to take away from that or what do

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Speaker 6: you think the product of that latest production is?

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Speaker 4: Well, they worked extra hard on that. I actually implemented

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Speaker 4: a lot of red zone extra red zone work into

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Speaker 4: their weekly practice schedule. Usually, as you know, the way

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Speaker 4: the NFL works, red zones almost always on Friday late

479
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Speaker 4: in the week. The Saints started incorporating red zone drills

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday, and I think that extra work's paid off.

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Speaker 4: And I also think they're implementing some new personnel. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Graham. We wondered why they signed him when they did.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's thirty six years old, the oldest player

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Speaker 4: on the roster and he was a healthy scratch for

485
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Speaker 4: weeks fans. Of course, he's very popular player locally. He's

486
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Speaker 4: been incorporated more into the red zone packages and he's

487
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Speaker 4: still six seven. He could still kind of use that

488
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Speaker 4: big frame to make plays in the end zone. We

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Speaker 4: saw that last week. I think if you're the Giants,

490
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Speaker 4: I'm sure Wink Martindale, they're going to have, you know,

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Speaker 4: a lot of eyes on Jimmy Graham, especially in the

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Speaker 4: red zone, because that's become a go to guy for

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Speaker 4: Derek Carr.

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Speaker 6: We're talking with Jeff Duncan, he covers the team, serves

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Speaker 6: as a sports columnist for The Times Picky youn NOLA

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Speaker 6: dot Com. As we're previewing Giant Saints coming up here

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Speaker 6: in week fifteen in New Orleans, I want to flip

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Speaker 6: the script to a little drama that seemed to come

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Speaker 6: out of the last game, Jeff, and you know, the

500
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Speaker 6: media always loves to read into sideline interactions and so forth.

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Speaker 6: We've been dealing with it here in New York. You know,

502
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Speaker 6: Eric McCoy, the center of the team, got into a

503
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Speaker 6: little bit of a rift with Derek Carr, and I

504
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Speaker 6: believe Dennis Allen was asked about it at a few

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Speaker 6: pressers this week. Is that just a sign of frustration

506
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Speaker 6: boiling for this team? Is there bad blood that has

507
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Speaker 6: been carrying over to performance? What do you make of

508
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Speaker 6: that at all at this stage of the season at least.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly frustration being like displayed there from Eric McCoy.

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Speaker 4: You have to know Eric McCoy lance. I mean, he's

511
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Speaker 4: a team captain, very mild mannered guy. I've never seen

512
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Speaker 4: him act like that, especially toward a teammate, so it

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Speaker 4: was very unusual. And if this were just an isolated incident,

514
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Speaker 4: then I think everyone could explain it away as to

515
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Speaker 4: the emotions of a competitive football game. But it's happened

516
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Speaker 4: multiple times with Derek Carr this season, we saw it

517
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Speaker 4: earlier in the year with Chris Olive on the field,

518
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Speaker 4: and it's just so jarring to see, especially in the

519
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Speaker 4: wake of watching Drew Brees operate here for a decade

520
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Speaker 4: and a half, where he was his body language was

521
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Speaker 4: in such he was always in such command and never

522
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Speaker 4: really he always had a poker face. He never showed

523
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Speaker 4: whether they were behind twenty one points or head twenty one.

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Speaker 4: He never changed expressions. So to see this, I think

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Speaker 4: for the fans it's also created a lot of anxiety.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a bad blood. I do think

527
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Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a disconnect. The way I've

528
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Speaker 4: characterized it is I think it's not as big as

529
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Speaker 4: maybe the media and the fan bases making it out

530
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Speaker 4: to be. But I think it's bigger than what the

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Speaker 4: players and coaches are trying to downplay it. I think

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Speaker 4: there's something there because we've seen it happen multiple times,

533
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Speaker 4: and it should never happen. Your opponent sees that, they

534
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Speaker 4: immediately see that there's some kind of dissension or miscommunication

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Speaker 4: going on. It feeds into that.

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Speaker 6: I think they're confidence, especially since the relationship between the

537
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Speaker 6: quarterback and the center is so key. As you could

538
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Speaker 6: attest to with respect to every team in the National

539
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Speaker 6: Football League. I want to go to the defensive side

540
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Speaker 6: of the ball. I think there are two statistics that

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Speaker 6: jump off the page, and for not very good reasons.

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Speaker 6: Number one, Jeff, is the run defense. They've given up

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Speaker 6: over two hundred rushing yards in two of their last

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Speaker 6: three games to the Falcons and the Panthers, even though,

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Speaker 6: as we talk about, they cruise pass Caroline in their

546
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Speaker 6: last game, and the sack numbers for some reason, huge

547
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Speaker 6: disparity forty eight line season top five twenty three. This season,

548
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Speaker 6: they're tied with the Giants, right near the bottom five

549
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Speaker 6: of the league. What do you make of specifically those

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Speaker 6: two statistical trends.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're both huge factors, as you know, and playing

552
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Speaker 4: good defense in this league, and now that was a

553
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Speaker 4: major concern for me watching this team going into this season.

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Speaker 4: The sack numbers were a little I think misleading last

555
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Speaker 4: year because if you looked at the advanced analytics on

556
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Speaker 4: the team pressure rate, you know, hurries, all those other numbers,

557
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Speaker 4: the Saints were down near the bottom of the league

558
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Speaker 4: for some reason. They had a lot of sacks, but

559
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Speaker 4: they were in just day to day pressure in the games.

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Speaker 4: They were not showing up and they're a little long

561
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Speaker 4: in the tooth up there. I mean, they lost some

562
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Speaker 4: guys in free agency, David on Yamada, Kaden Ellis in

563
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Speaker 4: the front seven went to Atlanta, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: Cam Jordan has really seen his production drop off as

565
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Speaker 4: he's gotten late in his career. Tomorrio Davis also late

566
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Speaker 4: in his career, you know, as the main linebacker. So

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Speaker 4: I think some of these things have all played a

568
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Speaker 4: factor there and their pass rush. They've had to lately

569
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Speaker 4: send more blitz as they used to just get home

570
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Speaker 4: with four and that has not worked. So we've seen

571
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Speaker 4: Dennis Allen adjust and last few games we've seen them

572
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Speaker 4: sending their lab backers and even their defensive backs more

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Speaker 4: after the quarterback to transgenerate pressure, and I expect that'll

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Speaker 4: be the case this week with Tommy Devido.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you went there, Jeff, because the Giants

576
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Speaker 6: actually did not give up a sack in their last

577
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Speaker 6: game on Monday Night, which was a bit of a

578
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Speaker 6: pleasant surprise given quarterbacks of the Giants all three that

579
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Speaker 6: have played this season have been sacked sixty nine times.

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Speaker 6: So I think you somewhat answered my question in terms

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Speaker 6: of Dennis Allen's approach this season. But if you're the

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Speaker 6: Giants offensive line, who then is the guy to watch

583
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Speaker 6: out for upfront? Is it Carl Granderson? Is it somebody else?

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Speaker 6: Especially with as you mentioned, Cam Jordan's getting up there

585
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Speaker 6: in age he only has two sacks. Who should the

586
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Speaker 6: Giants pinpoint that could perhaps wreck the game up front?

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Speaker 4: It's definitely Carl Granderson. He's been the only consistent pass

588
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Speaker 4: rush threat now they started using a linebacker, Zach Bonn,

589
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Speaker 4: who was a really good pass rusher at Wisconsin in college.

590
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Speaker 4: That was kind of his calling card coming to the NFL.

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Speaker 4: The Saints have kind of made him a transition to

592
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Speaker 4: an off ball linebacker and he's kind of going back

593
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Speaker 4: to his college days playing defensive end as an edge

594
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Speaker 4: rusher because of the ankle injury to Cam Jordan, and

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Speaker 4: it's worked a little bit. We've seen him get a

596
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Speaker 4: little more, you know, he's a little more athletic off

597
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Speaker 4: the edge than Cam at this stage of his career.

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Speaker 4: And again they're sending that's one thing Dennis Allen will do.

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Speaker 4: He'll get exotic. They do a lot of different looks.

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Speaker 4: They're going to challenge de Veto and the Giants offensive

601
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Speaker 4: line to make the proper protection calls pre snap. They

602
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Speaker 4: like to, you know, look like they're coming and then

603
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Speaker 4: drop back into coverage. You won't know really who's coming,

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Speaker 4: who's going. That was a key play for them last

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Speaker 4: week against the Panthers when the Panthers had first and

606
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Speaker 4: goal at the one and Carl Granderson dropped into his

607
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Speaker 4: zone blitz right into the line of vision or Bryce

608
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Speaker 4: Young and he wasn't able to find a receiver because

609
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Speaker 4: of that, So that'll be a challenge for the veto.

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Speaker 4: But if they can hold up with their protection calls,

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Speaker 4: they should be able to have time. It's just a matter.

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Speaker 4: The strength of the Saints defense is their past coverage.

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Speaker 4: They're excellent in the secondary. I think they lead the

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Speaker 4: league and that passes defense. They play very physical, sticky coverage.

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Speaker 4: They get away with a lot. I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of this game will come down to how does the

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Speaker 4: officiating crew call it. If they allow the Saints to

618
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Speaker 4: get physical and re route the Giants on the perimeter,

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Speaker 4: it could be a long day for the Giants offense.

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Speaker 4: If they start calling it and force the Saints to

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Speaker 4: back off, it'll be a little bit easier for him.

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Speaker 6: I guess both teams will be studying up on the

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Speaker 6: officiating crew and their tendencies before this game. To your point,

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Speaker 6: and the secondary, Jeff, as you pinpoint, it has been outstanding,

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Speaker 6: and I think it's impressive considering we were just talking

626
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Speaker 6: about they haven't been getting home with an overwhelming amount

627
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Speaker 6: of sacks, and you look at the injured reserve list,

628
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Speaker 6: They've got Marshawn Ladham or one of their best corners.

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Speaker 6: They've got Marcus May another great defensive back or sidelined.

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Speaker 6: Yet despite that, I know Pulse at a Debo and

631
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Speaker 6: the Honey Badger are having great seasons, But what does

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Speaker 6: it say about the depth JEF of that unit that

633
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Speaker 6: the production hasn't fallen off even though they're not one

634
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Speaker 6: hundred percent healthy on the back end of this defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really been the strength of Dennis Allen his

636
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Speaker 4: entire time. He's been here all the way back to

637
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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator days. That's what he was. He was a

638
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Speaker 4: safety at Texas A and M it's kind of his

639
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Speaker 4: Baileywick is defensive secondary coverage, and they've been excellent. I mean,

640
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Speaker 4: they ride defensive backs, they rather the receivers into the routes.

641
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Speaker 4: They're right on them. I mean they lead the league

642
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Speaker 4: in defensive pass interference to they're up there in defensive holding.

643
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Speaker 4: I mean it's a strategic, you know, mission for them

644
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Speaker 4: to grab and hold and to force the quarterback to

645
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Speaker 4: make that tough decision lance, Do I throw it? That

646
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Speaker 4: DB's right there in man coverage press coverage? Do I

647
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Speaker 4: throw the ball even though he's manned a man? And

648
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Speaker 4: they make it difficult. They try to disrupt the timing,

649
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Speaker 4: and they do a very good job of it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Bryce Young was overwhelmed last week and now Carolina's very

651
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Speaker 4: limited in the perimeter corps. But it's been the calling

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Speaker 4: card for this defense. And look, they'll give up a

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Speaker 4: few penalties, they'll give up a few big plays, but

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Speaker 4: they're not going to change the way their style of plays.

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Speaker 4: It's been successful for them for a number of years.

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Speaker 6: What specifically has jumped out to you, though, Jeff about

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Speaker 6: a Deebo's play? Four interceptions, He's got two forced fumbles,

658
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Speaker 6: fourteen passes defense you mentioned, they're up there in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Not to say that he hasn't been good. His rookie

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Speaker 6: year was very impressive. Maybe the numbers didn't jump off

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Speaker 6: the page last season, but is there something at particular

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Speaker 6: that has helped elevate his game this season?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think a couple of things. He's obviously playing

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Speaker 4: with more confidence, which happens with more reps, more playing

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Speaker 4: time you get. But also looking teams have been going

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Speaker 4: at him because they don't go at Marshawn Lattimore. They

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Speaker 4: choose to go and challenge a debo and he's risen

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Speaker 4: to the occasion, and I would say this, I have

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Speaker 4: to say this, you know, it's only fair to say.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but the Saints have really been fortunate in

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Speaker 4: their schedule this year. I mean, they have not played

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Speaker 4: very many elite quarterbacks. I mean, the schedule has played

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Speaker 4: out in their favor. I mean maybe the best quarterback

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Speaker 4: they've played all year is Trevor Lawrence. They've avoided the

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes's, the Joe Burrows, so they've they've played a

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Speaker 4: lot of backups, like a lot of teams in the league.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they'll get another one this week and in

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Speaker 4: the Vido. So it really has been a fortunate kind

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Speaker 4: of coincidence that they've played a lot of young rookie

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks and this is a veteran defense, and they've been

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Speaker 4: able to kind of, I think, confuse these guys, and

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Speaker 4: a debo is gone, taking that step lance from you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe just knocking down the ball now to making the

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Speaker 4: play on the ball. And I think that's come from

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Speaker 4: just your confidence.

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Speaker 6: You got me thinking, Jeff, it's interesting because if you

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Speaker 6: would have told me that we'd have two years in

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Speaker 6: a row where the NFC South would all be hovering

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Speaker 6: around five hundred I would have told you you're crazy,

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Speaker 6: because normally, as you know from covering this team in

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Speaker 6: this division for so long, when Carolina went seven to

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Speaker 6: eight and won several years back and won the division

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Speaker 6: the next year, everything was back to normalcy. So I

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Speaker 6: guess what I'm saying is And you brought up a

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Speaker 6: great point about the context of the caliber of the opponent,

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Speaker 6: which I think is important when you look at record

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Speaker 6: and stats. But how surprised are you that maybe we

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Speaker 6: all thought it was going to be the Saints, but

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Speaker 6: that no one in particular has been able to capitalize

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Speaker 6: or separate themselves from this division overall this season?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, Look, I think everyone else's division's kind of

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Speaker 4: played like I thought, although I thought Carolina would be

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Speaker 4: much better. That's been a really big disappointment. I saw

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Speaker 4: them play last year and take some steps. I thought

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Speaker 4: Bryce s young, they would take it to the next level.

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Speaker 4: But if you look at the big picture, Lance, we've

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Speaker 4: seen a lot of kind of legacy quarterbacks retire in

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Speaker 4: this division. Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Tom Brady for the

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Speaker 4: short period of time he was there. They moved on

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Speaker 4: from Jamis Winston. He's now in New Orleans, so it

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Speaker 4: happens in this league. The cycle right that these organizations

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Speaker 4: are going through. Bryce Young starting a new cycle in Carolina,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to obviously have to go to a

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Speaker 4: new coaching staff next year. So the turmoil is taking

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Speaker 4: its toll. I think on the key key players in

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Speaker 4: the league, the quarterback and the head coach. We've seen

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Speaker 4: a lot of turnover in the division last few years.

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Speaker 4: And look, I think this this week's game is interesting

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Speaker 4: because the Saints and Giants, I would say, are two

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Speaker 4: of the more disappointing teams in the league. I think

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Speaker 4: expectations were much higher, if you can correct me if

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong in New York with after making the playoffs

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Speaker 4: a year ago and the way the stark materialized for

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Speaker 4: this team and the Saints, I think definitely thought they

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Speaker 4: were going to win this division, dominate the division, and

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Speaker 4: be back in the playoff rune. It just hasn't played

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Speaker 4: out because of some of the factors we've talked about

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Speaker 4: with Derek Carr and the offense.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a very fair Shonno, with the parity

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Speaker 6: of this league, here we are where everybody is still

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Speaker 6: mathematically alive keeping their head above water before I let

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Speaker 6: you go, Jeff, I want to bring special teams into

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Speaker 6: the conversation. Both teams actually are on new kickers. I

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Speaker 6: know Blake Groupie started this season for the Saints, but

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Speaker 6: the Giants had an injury to Graham Gunout and Groopie

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Speaker 6: a rookie, but he has miss seven field goes that

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Speaker 6: if my facts are right, missed a twenty nine yarder

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Speaker 6: in the last game. They moved on from Will Lutz.

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Speaker 6: They reunited him with Sean Payton, trading him to Denver.

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Speaker 6: What have you made of Groupie's performance? And if this

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Speaker 6: game is tight, how confident is this team right now

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Speaker 6: that he could step up in crunch time and deliver well.

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Speaker 4: The decision to keep him was somewhat surprising and certainly

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Speaker 4: was controversial because Will Lutts they made a lot of

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Speaker 4: big kicks here. I think there was some finances that

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Speaker 4: played into that. Well, let's be in a veteran. You

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Speaker 4: can go to the rookie and Groupie and Groupie kicked

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Speaker 4: very well in preseason and he's kicked for the most part,

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Speaker 4: are pretty well during this year. But he's missed two

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Speaker 4: short field goals. I think the league, the entire league,

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Speaker 4: Lance has only missed four field goals under twenty nine yards,

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Speaker 4: and two of those are by Blake Groopy, So certainly

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Speaker 4: those are disturbing. You have to make those gimmeis, especially

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Speaker 4: when you play the way the Saints play a lot

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Speaker 4: of close games. Defensive minded head coach, you rely on

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Speaker 4: those special teams. I think there's got to be a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a crisis of confidence with him now.

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Speaker 4: Dennis Allen said, the last miss against the Panthers was

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Speaker 4: really due to the whole operation. The snap was bad,

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Speaker 4: the hold was bad. But they've got to get that down. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: when you play the way the Saints play, you're going

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Speaker 4: to play a lot of close games. In many ways,

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Speaker 4: this team reminds me of the old Jim Morris Saints

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Speaker 4: with Morton Anderson. You relied on the defense, the dome patrol,

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Speaker 4: and the field goal kicker to win games. So he's

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Speaker 4: got to step up. I like Groopy, he's got the

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Speaker 4: demeanor you need. He's very even keeled. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he misses a kick. I don't think it carries over

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Speaker 4: to the next kick. But certainly you know that last

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Speaker 4: one the missed last game was I mean, it was

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Speaker 4: a whiffleball. I think it was not close to going through,

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Speaker 4: and I think everyone in the Dome was, I go

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Speaker 4: here we go again, another you know, another kicking carousel

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Speaker 4: here in New Orleans.

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Speaker 6: And it's amazing to your point, the evolution of the Saints.

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Speaker 6: We've looked at New Orleans all these years, lighting up

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Speaker 6: the scoreboard. Now it's more of maybe a defensive special

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Speaker 6: teams minded team. But hey, whatever gets the job done.

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Speaker 6: In the NFL, that's all that matters. There are no

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Speaker 6: brownie points like in college football. He is Jeff Duncan

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Speaker 6: covers the Saints sports columnists for The Times picayun Nola

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Speaker 6: dot com as well as an analyst. You can see

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Speaker 6: him on WVUE, fox A TV in the Big Easy Well.

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Speaker 6: Jeff greatly appreciate the time of the inside. Always great,

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Speaker 6: patch it up with you and enjoy the game. This

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Speaker 6: Sunday is the Giants and the Saints go head to head.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Lance. I'd love to see another shootout between like

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Speaker 4: Eli and Drew Brees, like we saw a few years

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Speaker 4: ago here in the Dome, but I don't think we're

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Speaker 4: going to get that one this week. So let's hope

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Speaker 4: it's just a close one and both teams are in

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Speaker 4: it down to the stretch.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd be very surprised if we get thirteen total touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: But Jeff, hey, it's the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 6: And all of a sudden, that game was decided, by

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Speaker 6: the way for people who want to recollect by a

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Speaker 6: field goal off of special teams penalty by the way,

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Speaker 6: which I don't think a lot of people are of adverts.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, always a blast.

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Speaker 6: Thanks again for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it my pleasure. Lance, Thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff from Jeff Duncan there with Lance, we thank

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Speaker 2: them a lot for a deep look at the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Now for some Giants talk the voice of the Giants

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Speaker 2: Bob Papa with the head coach of the Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 7: The Giants take on the New Orleans and Saints in

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Speaker 7: New Orleans, as always, were joined by the head coach

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Speaker 7: of the New York Football Giants, Brian Dable and coach obviously,

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Speaker 7: your team came off that emotional win on Monday night,

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Speaker 7: gave him a little time off on Tuesday. How was

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Speaker 7: sort of the focus coming back to work on Wednesday

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Speaker 7: and throughout the week.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, consistent, you know, short week, so a lot to

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Speaker 8: do for the coaches, for the players, but been consistent

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00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 8: approach all year. You've got to make sure we were

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Speaker 8: doing the things that we need to do to give

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Speaker 8: ourselves the best chance.

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Speaker 7: Coach obviously, you know there's a little jolt of life here,

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Speaker 7: right you go. You've won three in a row. And

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Speaker 7: I talk about this all the time if you walk

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Speaker 7: through the building, especially on game day if it's a

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Speaker 7: home game, and even the messaging for a road game

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Speaker 7: is one and zher the players just staying focused on

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Speaker 7: this game and this game only. You've got to be

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Speaker 7: proud of the way your team has sort of adopted

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Speaker 7: that mindset and and kind of stayed the course.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of ups and downs

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Speaker 8: during the season. The downs are no fun and you

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Speaker 8: have to manage the ups. You have to manage the

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Speaker 8: downs as well. So you know, all we can control

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Speaker 8: is how we prepare, how we practice, you know, our chemistry,

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00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 8: the things that are important that are going to give

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Speaker 8: you a chance each week. And that's what we try

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Speaker 8: to do, coach.

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Speaker 7: When you take a look at this football game today

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Speaker 7: against the Saints, this is a team that plays really

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Speaker 7: good pass defense. Their numbers in all the important categories

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Speaker 7: are off the charts. Six to sixteen touchdown passes allowed,

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Speaker 7: fourteen interceptions, quarterback completion percentage, and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 7: So obviously the run game is always important for your

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Speaker 7: football team. But what makes their defense such a challenge,

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Speaker 7: especially when it comes to the pass game.

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Speaker 8: Well, they're their front and their coverage are tied together.

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Speaker 8: They play a lot of tight Manda man coverage. The

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Speaker 8: windows are are small, their their dbs are very sticky

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Speaker 8: on the receivers and on the tight ends on the backs.

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Speaker 8: They get a do a good job of getting rushed

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Speaker 8: and throwing off the quarterback and the timing of the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 8: so everything is tied together. Uh, you know, Da Dennis

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Speaker 8: allD does a great job and his players really do

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Speaker 8: a great job in the system and our talented guys

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Speaker 8: and coaching.

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Speaker 7: I want to talk about Tomorio Davis for just a second.

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Speaker 7: There's certain guys like the London Fletchers of the world

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Speaker 7: that seem timeless. They play at a high level with

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Speaker 7: a high football IQ and they play a very physical

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Speaker 7: and demanding position. Yet they still play it at a

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Speaker 7: high level. When you when you look at him on tape,

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Speaker 7: what makes him a difference maker?

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Speaker 8: Well, he's got a very good talent. He's physical, and

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00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 8: he's very instinctive, so he's uh, he's a playmaker for

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Speaker 8: him and he's been that way for a while since

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Speaker 8: he's played. So we're gonna have to know where he's at.

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Speaker 8: But he is a He has a physical, instinctive linebacker

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Speaker 8: and one of the better ones in the league.

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Speaker 7: When you look at them offensively. Coach, you know, over

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00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 7: the years, a trip to New Orleans meant usually like

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Speaker 7: an Arena Football League game with you know, Drew Brees

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Speaker 7: and Sean Payton dialing up all this stuff and up

880
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Speaker 7: and down you went. They're really playing to a different

881
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Speaker 7: profile this year, aren't they as far as how they

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Speaker 7: play the game with what they have? And obviously they

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Speaker 7: got a talented back in Kamara who's a threat not

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Speaker 7: only in the run game but the passing game. But

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Speaker 7: do you sense that they play more grind out kind

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Speaker 7: of games?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it depends. Pete Carmichael obviously was there

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Speaker 8: a long time with coach Payton and got a lot

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Speaker 8: of respect for Pete and how he goes about his business.

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Speaker 8: And they have some playmakers that have a lot of

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Speaker 8: great speed. Shahid twenty two is not just a good returner,

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Speaker 8: but he's a dynamic receiver, can really threaten you. Deep

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Speaker 8: Lave was one of the better young receivers and you know,

894
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Speaker 8: turning into one of the better receivers in this league.

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Speaker 8: Very good route runner, savvy, can play multiple spots, excellent hands.

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Speaker 8: And then Kamara is you know, he's an issue wherever

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Speaker 8: he's at, whether that's coming out of the backfield, handing

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Speaker 8: them the ball, getting to the edge, making plays in space.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna have to do a really good job against

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Speaker 8: those three guys. And you know, Derek's a long time

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Speaker 8: veteran who's played at a high level in this league

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Speaker 8: for a long time, and you know, I think that

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Speaker 8: they have a you know, they have a good football

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Speaker 8: team and it's gonna be certainly a big challenge.

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Speaker 7: Final question, coach. I know you prepare for crowd noise,

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Speaker 7: that's just part of the weekly NFL process. But going

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Speaker 7: into this building, it's an older stadium. It's a lot

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00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 7: of concrete. Uh, it's smaller footprint than a lot of

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00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 7: the big new stadiums. Is it different with the noise

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Speaker 7: issue in that stadium than maybe other places?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a great environment, and those fans

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Speaker 8: down there, they get loud, and it is it is loud.

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Speaker 8: So you know, we've we've tried to prepare ourselves the

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Speaker 8: best we can. You know, we're gonna have to do

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Speaker 8: a good job with our communication, particularly when we're on offense,

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Speaker 8: but also on the defensive side, and then the kicking game.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're gonna have to play well and you know,

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Speaker 8: manage manage the noise when there's noise there.

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Speaker 7: Coach, We appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck

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Speaker 7: this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks pot appreciate you great stuff from Bob and coach

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Speaker 2: dable stuff from Lance and Jeff, and then we thank

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Speaker 2: Deontay Banks as well. Fun interview with the Giants rookie

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00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: starting cornerback, talking about his progress this year and how

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Speaker 2: well the Giants defense is playing. Thank you for being

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Speaker 2: with us on this episode of The Giants Total Podcast,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Giants in Satan Sunday at one o'clock. Thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us. We'll see you next time. Everybody,