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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Debo and Joe's Show.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with

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Speaker 2: my co host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like

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Speaker 2: and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. We got

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Speaker 2: it all right here, Joe. How you doing this morning, Buddy?

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm doing good, brother Debo. Man, having a great

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Speaker 1: night watching football. Man, the Bills Dolphins game, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a great game to see, great game to see.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, Man, the Dolphins, they came out

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Speaker 2: to fight.

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Speaker 1: Dog. They came out to fight.

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Speaker 2: You know what's so crazy is I talked to somebody

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Speaker 2: before and I'm like, dude, watch watch.

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Speaker 1: The Bills go out here and lose this game.

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm like, they done came back on the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: You know, they went and stumped the lights out the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, they are prime for a letdown. They probably

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Speaker 2: thinking that, you know, Miami goa come in here.

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Speaker 1: Ooe was me. Maybe you know they already had you know,

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Speaker 1: a player's.

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Speaker 2: Only meet in week one, so you know you're at home,

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Speaker 2: it's a short week, and the whole time I'm.

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Speaker 3: Thinking, dude, you thought they were going to sneak up

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Speaker 3: on them, dude. I thought there was going to sneak

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Speaker 3: up on them, dude. I mean when you look at it,

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Speaker 3: I mean barely they I mean they came through. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was thirty one to twenty one. They came through.

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Speaker 3: They won the game.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as the first quarter started, dude, Miami

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Speaker 2: goes down there a score on what ten plays, took

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Speaker 2: up almost six almost seven minutes off the clock and

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Speaker 2: went in for seven.

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Speaker 1: Made it look easy. I mean it was a short field.

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Speaker 1: It was only like the special teams. That's the way

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Speaker 1: you start the game off, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Special teams popped off with a great return. They got

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Speaker 1: it at the fifty. I'll tell you one thing. A

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Speaker 1: Chan was balling, you know what I'm saying, just getting

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. I don't think two did

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Speaker 1: anything too impressive in the first drive. He just getting

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Speaker 1: the ball. He didn't throw the ball over five yards,

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Speaker 1: completed the first, the third and four the Tyreek kill

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Speaker 1: getting him involved. But I think a Chan and what's

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Speaker 1: mother man? A Chan and Gordon number thirty one, the

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Speaker 1: rookie running back thunder and lightning them dudes a chance

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Speaker 1: the more speed guy, you know what I'm saying, dumping

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Speaker 1: it to him. He was doing a run game and

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Speaker 1: catching out the backfield and then Gordon being able to

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Speaker 1: power it in. You know what I'm saying. So that

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Speaker 1: first drive it looked really impressive. But the same thing

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Speaker 1: I was saying to Tour didn't have to do too much,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, getting into the hands of

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Speaker 1: his You know what I'm saying, athletes, He got some,

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Speaker 1: He got some playmakers, like Tyreek Hill was out there

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Speaker 1: hooping for a shot.

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Speaker 2: For show for show, and then you come back and

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Speaker 2: the Bills get the ball and what is it? Eighty

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Speaker 2: five ninety yards they go to and they scored My brother,

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Speaker 2: brother brother.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody coming to play defense this week? Like it was?

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Speaker 1: It was? It was James Cook. It was James Cook.

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Speaker 1: Did you see every time he touched the ball it

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Speaker 1: was for the first team. It was ten those first

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Speaker 1: down he was just totally he was cutting through there,

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Speaker 1: running the ball with patience. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: With bursts, you know what I'm saying, That look good.

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Speaker 1: So him and then Josh Allen with the little fake, fake,

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Speaker 1: fake bubble screen. You know what, I'm saying, and then

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Speaker 1: dropped it down to the tight end, put it in.

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Speaker 1: Ball placement was on the on the money. So like

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Speaker 1: those first two drives, both teams go down score. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: for show, it's gonna be a high scoring game. It

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Speaker 1: looked good, no question.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually I think the next thing was basically getting

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Speaker 2: down there and you know, I think they missed the

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Speaker 2: field goal or something.

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Speaker 1: Dude, like it was like they they so hard. They

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Speaker 1: scored on their first two possessions, and then they drove

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Speaker 1: it down on the third rd very next because they

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Speaker 1: was they was walking the joint down and that was

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Speaker 1: when Tua got it. He was snaps, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think, uh, they had a penalty. Actually

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Speaker 1: they were still driving.

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Speaker 2: Now I think about the second the second drive, they

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Speaker 2: were still driving and they had penalties that that that

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Speaker 2: slowed them down and they weren't able to to convert.

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Speaker 2: And then they went on down there scored on them

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Speaker 2: again and it was fourteen seven then, so that's you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's still a chance because they were able

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Speaker 1: They let you know, some penalties you know, slow them down.

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Speaker 1: So and the good the good thing was to in

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Speaker 1: the first half that Miami did a good job of

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Speaker 1: converting on first down, so that that second that the

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Speaker 1: next drive when they ended up scoring before halftime, Tyreek killed.

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Speaker 1: They converted four first down, four third down conversions to

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Speaker 1: Will use his feet on one and three to Tyree kill,

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Speaker 1: a third and twelve like a third and seven, and

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Speaker 1: the third and five. He converted all three of those

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Speaker 1: to get down there and they ended up scoring before

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Speaker 1: half with Wadle caught that slant you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: getting the end zone.

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Speaker 2: So they got the ball with four minutes. That was

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Speaker 2: an amazing four minutes. That was from the missfield goal.

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Speaker 2: The missfield goal, they were able to go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead and they was able to get down there, so

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Speaker 1: short again, a short.

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Speaker 2: Short feel and able to get down there and go

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Speaker 2: ahead and get seven out. They tied up at halftime,

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Speaker 2: so you know they in a fight, you know, like

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Speaker 2: you know gave you know, you gave Miami some hope.

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Speaker 1: You know, they like, you know, we could go out

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Speaker 1: here and do I think it was it was a

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Speaker 1: tail of two halves because the first half it was seventh,

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Speaker 1: it was fourteen to fourteen. And then on the second half,

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Speaker 1: defense third quarter wasn't too much action. Well, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: came out off the rip first driving in the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: so that put it to twenty one fourteen, but not

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Speaker 1: too much more action was going on in the third

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Speaker 1: a lot of punts, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 1: it was the fourth quarter that really was the tail

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Speaker 1: of the game. A defense that fourth quarter. Man, when

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Speaker 1: they got to stop, you know what I'm saying, two

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Speaker 1: of them went down. They scored, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: the twenty one twenty one, and then they get a stop,

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Speaker 1: the tie to the jamee. The game could be changing,

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Speaker 1: and they go to put a punt and my man

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Speaker 1: runs into the punter, which changes the whole trajectory at

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Speaker 1: a game, you know what I'm saying. Then they go

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Speaker 1: down there and score, so pused the game to twenty

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Speaker 1: eight to twenty one, and I think that was just

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Speaker 1: that's Those are the mistakes that you cannot make if

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Speaker 1: you want to beat you know what I'm saying, the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, you can't beat yourself. They were in the fight,

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Speaker 1: they were getting them to put they were forcing them

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Speaker 1: to part. They didn't drive down there and score on them.

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Speaker 1: So that I was twenty one, twenty one, we getting

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Speaker 1: the ball, you know what I'm saying. They were doing

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Speaker 1: a good job converting. They made the fourth down, fourth

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Speaker 1: and four, got down there and scored. So when you're

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Speaker 1: playing the Bills, though, those are the mistakes that you

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Speaker 1: can't make. Mm hmmm, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 2: So my I mean, I think they still had a

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Speaker 2: chance until you know, you got to that that last

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Speaker 2: you know, their last interception right there.

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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe three minutes or so left,

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Speaker 1: whatever it.

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Speaker 2: Was, and uh, you know you're going in to you know,

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Speaker 2: possibly get seven and then you know you had an

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Speaker 2: interception and that, you know, to me, that basically sealed

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Speaker 2: the deal.

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Speaker 1: That definitely sealed it. Yeah. That killed that killed everything

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Speaker 1: that was going man.

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Speaker 2: You know the best I think the biggest thing that

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Speaker 2: they did is they showed that they wasn't dead.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Like yeah, like yeah, we yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: Had a we had a players only meet in week one,

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Speaker 2: but you know that was to get to where we

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Speaker 2: are now. And I mean they didn't come away with

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Speaker 2: the win, but the mindset, the way they play, you know,

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Speaker 2: except for you know, certain parts of it.

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing is Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: They made the plays when they counted. The defense made

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Speaker 2: the stops and the offense made the scores, and you know,

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Speaker 2: or a pick, whatever it may be. They kept the

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Speaker 2: game closest as long as they could. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the second half came, and I think what helped them

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Speaker 2: keep it close too was Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had some they had some drop passes.

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Speaker 2: You know, they had some some penalties that were you know,

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Speaker 2: stalling them in that second half, so that that helped,

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Speaker 2: you know, Miami be able to keep it close. And

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Speaker 2: of course the rough and the kicker and the late

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Speaker 2: interception that was just well, you crushed them. They kept

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Speaker 2: it close. Man, it was a really really good game.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, there's gonna be good players,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad players, it's gonna be penalties here

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Speaker 1: and there. Keeping the fourteen to fourteen going in the

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Speaker 1: halftime was all good. Like you said, we're not the roughing,

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Speaker 1: the rough and the punter that started the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: But when you finish the game off with that pick,

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Speaker 1: they're driving down, you're making plays, You're you're getting the ball,

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Speaker 1: you're actually you're hitting water on some on some five

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Speaker 1: in ours, you can burning on third downs. That was

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Speaker 1: just a basic smash concept. Running back fast to the

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Speaker 1: flats three on three over there. He looked directly where

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Speaker 1: he was going, and that brought my man Shepherd right

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Speaker 1: straight through. As soon as he looked over there, he

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Speaker 1: ran and then it's three. He threw the ball right

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Speaker 1: to him. So you kind of that's just mistakes that

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Speaker 1: you can't make. You gotta look look it off. You

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Speaker 1: know where you're going to three over there. As soon

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Speaker 1: as you brought your eyes over there, defensive tall and zone,

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Speaker 1: we're moving where the quarterback's eyes are going. He didn't

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Speaker 2: T off on that and then turned straight to it

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Speaker 2: and got it to it.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been that close. He wouldn't have not

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Speaker 1: been that close him looking instantly soon as he got

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Speaker 1: the ball from the snap bringing his eyes there, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he broke on it like like like like he's instantly

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So just those mistakes that

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Speaker 1: you cannot make there and I'm not this is here

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Speaker 1: for a tour bashing. But he didn't throw the ball

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Speaker 1: all well deep at all. All of their completions were

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Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. He was getting at the

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Speaker 1: e h hand. He was getting it into Tyreek kill.

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Speaker 1: I mean except for those three big third downs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, those those were those those were the woman

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Speaker 1: he scrambled away. That was about a twelve yard pass.

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Speaker 1: That was maybe when the was the one with Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill got he passed it seven yards, Tyreek Hill went back,

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Speaker 1: dipped down and got missing on people. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, made after catch, see what you're saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff was just underneath Dixon dunks

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Speaker 1: and then when we needed to make plays. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was kind of kind of turn turned it over

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Speaker 2: That it's a difference between it's a difference between hurting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're you're hurting me if you're turning the

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Speaker 2: you're giving me the opportunity to go back out there

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Speaker 1: But you know, picks, you're you're hurting me there.

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Speaker 2: That's taking points off the board that you know, that

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Speaker 2: But that that opportunity was just you know, snatched away

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the two critical mistakes, Yeah, those two

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Speaker 1: They like you said, they fought. They looked like they

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Speaker 2: You think they take some type of moral victory out

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, there's no moral victories in there.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm saying that you still exactly what

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Speaker 1: That moral victory stuff.

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Speaker 2: I ain't. I ain't never been on it. I think

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Speaker 2: being late for meeties and having discipline their issues. According

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Speaker 1: One current Dolphin player said.

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Speaker 2: He believed some captains that this past season took advantage

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Speaker 2: They were among repeat offenders who received numerous fines throughout

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Speaker 2: the seasons. Throughout the season, what do you what do

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Speaker 2: Players were often late to practice meetings with multiple teams,

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Speaker 1: Well let's keep this real though, Debo. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: My thing on it is you should never be late.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing that can go on that that that should

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Speaker 2: I understand that because with time, you know, like like

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Speaker 2: If over time you tell me the truth, I'll learn

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Speaker 1: Demeanor is and how they actually operate.

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Speaker 2: If he comes late one time, or something happens and

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Speaker 1: But you know if you come late again, you can't

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Speaker 2: And it's a reason that we have the what they

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Speaker 2: call it the Code of Conduct.

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Speaker 2: Conduct detrimental okay, So it's what is they call progressive discipline. Right,

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Speaker 2: of whatever that max fine is. The second time is

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Speaker 2: Now that max fine, that max fine can be a

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Speaker 2: So when you get guys that are just repeated fenders,

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Speaker 2: That's that's not something somebody.

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Speaker 2: You know what, after my second, third time, after my

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Speaker 1: Now. When you get coaches that are like, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to find you and they find you twenty

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Speaker 2: find of what they call that real money, then it's

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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like, especially if you've got a player that's you know,

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Speaker 2: You don't even notice that. You're just thinking some extra

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happens in New England if you're late,

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Speaker 2: I honestly, they had me so scared. I was just

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Speaker 1: So it's obviously.

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Speaker 2: Something there happens that don't nobody want a piece of

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Speaker 2: So I don't know this. So I'm walking in and

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Speaker 2: I'm not about to go in and catch something, you

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Speaker 2: But when you have a coach there's too much of

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Speaker 2: not going to go to that point of actually being

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Speaker 1: I would say we can go with this Tuto debo.

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Speaker 1: Mostly we're talking about star players here, because if you're

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Speaker 1: So I think that most of the time you say

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Speaker 1: could look at it a certain way, and just showing

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Speaker 1: when I was in Cleveland, there was really no there

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Speaker 1: You learn to get respect from somebody, Like you said,

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Speaker 1: you learn trust in time and then you can you

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Speaker 1: can that's how you develop it Like in time, you

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Speaker 1: You got to show me that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: this is just this is the way that you are.

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Speaker 1: So if something happens, then this is this is Oh man,

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Speaker 1: happened with his family. Let's make sure he's okay, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Not just you know, he just

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Speaker 1: just not a way, you know what I'm saying, you

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Speaker 1: want it to rock. So when I'm reading into this,

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Speaker 1: it's more like they're talking about good players trying to

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Speaker 1: and I don't think, well, well, it's also like you said,

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Speaker 1: for sure that that doesn't you know, do what it's necessary.

436
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I guess they said.

437
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: A player driven leadership has always been an emphasized under McDaniel's.

438
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 2: As one current player described, it is laid back without

439
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: being hands off. Former Dolphins player who played for McDaniel

440
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: said coach was always open and vulnerable with his players,

441
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,719
Speaker 2: which he thinks players misconstrued as being soft. I very

442
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 2: much think that is misconstrued as being soft because you're

443
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: in a game where it is a bunch of really

444
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 2: aggressive alpha type males in any form, especially if I

445
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: like if I don't have a strong or I don't built,

446
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: I ain't built a relationship with you, Joe, And you know,

447
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 2: I go and I tell you something that that you

448
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 2: see a different side.

449
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: Of me, and you like, Yo, he's maybe he a

450
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 1: little soft, you know what I'm saying. Like it that's

451
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: a real thing.

452
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 2: But with you knowing me and me discussing something with

453
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 2: you on on a on a more of a personal level,

454
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, he must really be going through something

455
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 2: because I notice.

456
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: Is not what he does, and he respects me enough

457
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: to be like, man as the man gonna come to

458
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: me and tell me something. You know what I'm saying,

459
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: he don't really talk about too much.

460
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: So when you're a person that's just open and vulnerable

461
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: to everyone, Yeah, I'm like for me that that that

462
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: would seem that seems soft like and I can see how,

463
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: you know, Like like my mom told me when I

464
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: was a kid, Dude, she was like, they go take

465
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: kindness for weakness. So that's why I was always kind

466
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: of stand off as mean mugging I had, you know,

467
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: I got I got rest in what they call you

468
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: know for that yeah, base, But that's that's just me

469
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: because that's what I was taught. They take kindness for weakness,

470
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: you know. So so don't run around here being happy

471
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 2: and jolly and google laughing. They looking at somebody they

472
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: think they can get over on. And you know, that's

473
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: just how I was, you know, that's how it was

474
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: brought up.

475
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: What do you think I think that I feel that

476
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying. I think with with

477
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: this situation, I think that it's just so we're talking

478
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: about with Jay and Mike McDaniel.

479
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with McDaniels in his situation of being you know,

480
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: they're saying he is being misconstrued as being soft, him

481
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: not being as disciplined and strict with his enforcement, you know,

482
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: of not.

483
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, for sure, I think I think that they

484
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: can't get that misconstrued. You know, like you said, it's

485
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of grown men and the thing and when

486
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: you have a head coach that's kind of letting certain

487
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: people get away with things and not holding them accountable,

488
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: that could really just show a lack of discipline.

489
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: It shows being jealousy to other guys too, though A

490
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: thousand and then and it starts that with with other guys.

491
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: And then you know, on top of that, some guys like, yo,

492
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: well if he letting him do that, I'm gonna do this.

493
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that too. And I'm like, if he

494
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: don't do it, I'll give you a proper example, Depot,

495
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: I'll speak it to when I really came. But I

496
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: came to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've never not stayed in

497
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: the hotel at a home game. That's something that everybody,

498
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: no matter what, Phil Dawson, You're fifteen years in. You

499
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: better check into the hotel. You're gonna have your meetings

500
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: there at the home game and little late meetings, do

501
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: your dinner and then bed check. You know what I'm saying.

502
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: At the home games. When I came to Pittsburgh, the

503
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: OG's veterans, Pouncey's you know what I'm saying. After the

504
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: home meeting, they was like, oh, yeah, bet we going home.

505
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: They're going home. They have a family. They're like, yo's

506
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: about I'm like, man, I don't know, because they don't

507
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: tell you. If you're a VET, you can stay. But

508
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: that's just the way. That's an unknown, unwritten rule. You

509
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: gotta be a VET, you OG, you can go stay

510
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: at the crib. Do you know what I'm saying? So

511
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: I was like, man, he said, where you're gonna go?

512
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna go home. The trust of Pouncy.

513
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: You got grown men. They're not going to go out

514
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: to the club before the game. When we wake up

515
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: early in the morning. I'm trying to go home, pick

516
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: up my family, go get everybody right, and then come

517
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: back to the stadium. It's like, why am I making

518
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: this extra step when you trust me as a man

519
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going out. I'm not gonna go get seen.

520
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go take care of my body or

521
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: get my family, sleep my own bed in the head

522
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: to the game. You know what I'm saying. Like, then

523
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: when you see the young dudes like, no, I'm hardly

524
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: goes in my crib. No, you can't. You know what

525
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You're not a vet. Did you mess around?

526
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Be out? You know what I'm saying. And that's just

527
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: a whole different situation. The trust of them knowing Joe

528
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: where you're at, and then they would call, I'm at

529
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the crib, all right, bet see you tomorrow. You know

530
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, that's something that people could take

531
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: advantage of. You could as if I wanted to, I

532
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: could go out to the club. I could have went out,

533
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: did something crazy. But that's not professional. That's not what

534
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: what professionals do. My job is to get ready for

535
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: the game, and coach t as a man, was letting

536
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: me go home and take that step out of waking

537
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: up super early, having to go to my crib, get

538
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: my body worked on, get my family, bring them to

539
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: the game, and then work that whole situation. He's like no, Joe,

540
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: you have a process. You're going, you're going where you're

541
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: going to. My family see you tomorrow, you know what

542
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's just was the respect factor. And

543
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: like other teams, they don't care. Phil Dawson was a

544
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: grown man. He's not going to go out. But no

545
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: matter what the Brown's like, I don't care. You played

546
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: for the Browns. You're staying in this hotel with the team, period,

547
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, that's just I don't

548
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: care what you're gonna.

549
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: I ain't go.

550
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

551
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: I like, I like.

552
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: I like you're standing the team. I like your standing

553
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: the team with You're staying hotel with the team. You're

554
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: here to get a job done. Everything else outside of

555
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: that should be not even a part of what we

556
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: got going on. I understand, you got a family at home.

557
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: You gotta do this, you gotta do that. You gotta

558
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: have wifey, have everything set up ready and go, and

559
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 2: so when you get there everything is coordinated so that you.

560
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: Can boom bam bam.

561
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: Because I think when you get into situations like that,

562
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: like you said, you're gonna go home and lay and

563
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: stay there. But who says that the vet. That's you know,

564
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: Joe Blow didn't decide the one time that he thought

565
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: he had a soft game, let me run down here

566
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: with the boys real quick and be here or there now,

567
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: whether word gets back or not, he gets you know,

568
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: he gets that privilege.

569
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: And it's not like he's not gonna tell somebody, you

570
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

571
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: So now the other guys is foaming at the mouth

572
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: waiting for their opportunity and chance to be a VET

573
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: to do the same thing. So like situations like that,

574
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, Like when I play for Cowerd, I

575
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: don't care.

576
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: It didn't matter.

577
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 2: Bus Drone Better stayed in the Hall of Famer. He

578
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: stayed in the hotel. No, I wasn't no going home.

579
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying that

580
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: that's the bad thing either. I'm not saying it's a

581
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: bad thing either. I'm just saying that it's a I

582
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: respect it, and especially if you're going to be that's

583
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: the thing of taking advantage of your that neess. You

584
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, if you do have things

585
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: that you can do, don't disrespect. But I think I think.

586
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: Also it puts it puts guys in a position, especially

587
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: if you're a vet where you know what that night

588
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: at the hotel before the game, I ain't got to

589
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 2: worry about nothing at home.

590
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: I ain't know.

591
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: You gotta tragic, but you you have to. This is

592
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: where this is where it causes. I think it causes

593
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: issues for the players and the family is you don't

594
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: have to stay there, wife, say you ain't got a

595
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: state or why are you staying there? He don't want

596
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to deal with this. It's

597
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: a RESTful night. I don't want to get ready for

598
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: for for for the gang. So now all of a sudden,

599
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: maybe he got to go home when he ain't.

600
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: Want to see that. But how is all because the

601
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: old ladies you're talking about what old ladies talking well?

602
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Joe at the crib right right? Oh that's crazy. I

603
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: feel you though they could it could. Yeah, it just

604
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: opens up another window. I'm just saying, I'm not knocking it.

605
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: I feel where you're coming from, because it gets to

606
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: have other people just looking trying to get to where

607
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: they're going while they're getting to do other stuff. But

608
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: that's why you say you get treated people fairly but

609
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: not everybody gets treated the same. I can see the

610
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: same way of nobody can't go, you know what I'm saying,

611
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: But then there's reasons why I would see why they

612
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: could go. You know what I'm saying, they gonna go

613
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: to the crib, like even if they're legitimately going to go,

614
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: because these dudes do have stuff going on, or you

615
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: don't have to go. It's just an option that I

616
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: just thought was dope that if you're on the team,

617
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: then you could respect it. That's because that's just that's

618
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: that's the relationship part, where you can take advantage of

619
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: it or you or you don't.

620
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: No for sure, for sure. Speaking of responsibilities, former Raiders

621
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: head coach Antonio Pierce said it's foolishness to believe that

622
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: Tom Brady won't use his access as a broadcaster to

623
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: help the team. He said, this is unprecedented what we're seeing.

624
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: I think I would be uncomfortable if it was the

625
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: other way around, to be honest with you, because you're

626
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: not dealing with just a normal person. Tom Brady is

627
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: the elite of the elite, one of the greatest quarterbacks,

628
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: one of the greatest players in the game. It's not

629
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: hard for him to watch a few things on Friday

630
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: or hear things in the production meeting and be like

631
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: have tied, bitch, You'd be foolish, he said, And you'd

632
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: be foolish enough to think that he's not going to

633
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: share with the raiders because we had those conversations about

634
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: certain things.

635
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: My thing is this, don't.

636
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: I don't understand how like they're saying, oh, well, he

637
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: can't go to the production meetings, he can't, but you

638
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: allow him to still interview them and talk to them.

639
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: He's going to get the same thing, which just he

640
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: just can't go to the to the facility to do it.

641
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, he can't.

642
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: He can't be at you know, at the hotel to

643
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: do it. Like yeah, but he's still going to interview them.

644
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: He can interview them off campus, I mean off off

645
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: site in person, or he could talk to him and

646
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: interview him. That way, you're still getting the information. And

647
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: for them to think that like you got a whole crew,

648
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: like it's Fox. These that's what these guys do even

649
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: if he's not there, he didn't go to the practice.

650
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: These guys, that's all they do is football. They're gonna

651
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: talk football even with him just sitting there with them.

652
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: He's going to get things and he's going to be

653
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: privileged to him, Like when it comes down to him

654
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: being in the actual booth on the headset, that is crazy.

655
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: So now I'm just playing Devil's advocate. He didn't tell

656
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: a coach, He didn't say nothing to a coach, but

657
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: he on the head said who actually is in communication with?

658
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Either the coach or a player? Who is he talking to?

659
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't know who he talks Jerry Jones, don't even

660
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: get in the coaches box and put the headset on.

661
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: But Tom, a minority owner, is in the box with

662
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: a headset on at the coaches box.

663
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: Who is he talking to? Like? What is he saying? Like?

664
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't this is this is gonna get like real,

665
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna get messier before it gets

666
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: cleared up if they don't figure out something, because the

667
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: next time this comes around.

668
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't.

669
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how they cannot let whoever it may be,

670
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: do it. You know what is your even? Like if

671
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: it's me, you know what I'm saying, like me being

672
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,239
Speaker 2: James Hilson, and I got that you know position I got?

673
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: I got?

674
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: I got three hundred and seventy five, you know from Fox,

675
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: and then I'm a minority owner of the team. I'm

676
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: not gonna do it because they gonna bust my ass,

677
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But if I'm Tom Brady,

678
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm Time Braddy.

679
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: They love me. They fought for me to do this. Yeah,

680
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: I might do it.

681
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I probably would do it. What they go do, go

682
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: and find out that I did it, and then have

683
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: to tell that what we said he wouldn't go do

684
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: he did.

685
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: So, if you know, if it's if I'm Time, I

686
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: might go ahead and do it. Where are you at

687
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: when Tom's showing us what he's gonna do? Tom Brady

688
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: going ahead and doing it? Like you said, they want

689
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: him in here. They trying to bend the rules for

690
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: him to be in there. I don't think trying. They did.

691
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: They did it. He's in there. He's now, he's in

692
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: the booth on the headset. Like you said, who is

693
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: he talking to? I don't know the quarterback, the coach.

694
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who he's talking to. And Jo got

695
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: his hand and everything, and he don't even know. With

696
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the production meetings and stuff and him not being able

697
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: to be there and not being able to be present.

698
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: So they're going to have production meetings also with his

699
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: team before they get on the show, just to talk,

700
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: just to vibe, just to figure.

701
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: Out what he gets to introduce he gets. He still

702
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: gets to talk to them, he's just not allowed to

703
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: do it on side site. So he could have them

704
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: come to another site, or he could meet him at

705
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: another site and talk to him, or he could still

706
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: like like I guess, phone or zoom whatever it may be,

707
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: and talk to him.

708
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: He just can't be there. You're still getting the information, Jangs.

709
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying the same thing you're saying. Brother, Hey, I'm

710
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: saying the same thing you're saying. I don't think that.

711
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady's getting hisself in the situation that well,

712
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: like you said, they want him to be there, he's

713
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: already there. I think that as if I was in

714
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: that position too. I mean, he has two jobs. It's

715
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the owner of the team as minority owner of the Raiders,

716
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: and it's the CBS job where he's making what is it,

717
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: like fifty he.

718
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: Got, he got, he got three, he got three seventy

719
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: five for ten, so about thirty seventy thirty.

720
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Five year he's gonna have to in my I would

721
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: have you got to give up one because no matter what,

722
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: if you stay doing the meetings, however you're doing those meetings,

723
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: not being there, you're still being able to interview the people.

724
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: There's going to be questions. And I don't know if

725
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: he cares about if he doesn't care about the questions,

726
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: and he's gonna go ahead and keep going through it.

727
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, shoot for it. But just know being in

728
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: those productions, not being in those production meetings, but still

729
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: working for them, having two jobs at the same time

730
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: an owner and just having conflict of interest is going

731
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: to be a question that people are going to ask.

732
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: If you're not doing it, it just looks still crazy.

733
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: So the questions that people are going to ask you

734
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: aren't going to go anywhere if you're continuing to work

735
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: for two like spots. You know what I'm saying, it's

736
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: just two's not even toos.

737
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: It's opposite you actually getting that'd be like you being

738
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: able to go and interview everybody and then go play

739
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: a game against these boys and you're getting all the

740
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: little nooks and crannies and you get to all ask

741
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: all the questions and they thinking, hey.

742
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: It's you know it's it's Joe.

743
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: He ain't you know, he is well with it being Tom.

744
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's like it's toime. You know, I'm telling

745
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: you know whatever, you know, blah blah blah. Especially young guys,

746
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: they don't know no better. You know what I'm saying.

747
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: I feel you.

748
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: I feel you, brother. I don't think it's a I

749
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be. It's not going nowhere.

750
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: The questions aren't going nowhere. We're going to see like

751
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: what the access looks like. And it's happening, yeah, for sure.

752
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: And what we were talking about the other day with

753
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: the Eagles, they're they're gonna they're gonna take a close

754
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: look at this touch push now said the league officially

755
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: is trying to make sure it doesn't happen again.

756
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: They said it was a false start that should have

757
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: been called. So.

758
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: The lead training video for officials, which gets shared with

759
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: coaches and general managers, included showing the Eagles false start

760
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: and an instruction that the officials ensure the offense isn't

761
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: getting away with penalties on a touch push. These dudes

762
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: is lining up in the neutral zone, they taking off first,

763
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: They doing everything.

764
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: Yes, they need to go ahead and put their eyes

765
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: on that thing. Slow it down.

766
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: You want to slow down anytime you got somebody getting

767
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: hit and the defender barely grazes his helmet with the

768
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: top of their thing, and the first thing the announces

769
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: to say, Yep, that's that was helmet the helmet. Yeah, yes,

770
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: it's time for the offense to get the same thing

771
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: and slow it down for y'all. Like I don't, I'm

772
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: a final issue with it. I'm a thousand said five

773
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: with this. It's just because it's just like and you

774
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: know what happens too.

775
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: When the league does stuff like this and make sense

776
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: out the videos and set out the films, it's going

777
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: to get addressed, you know what I'm saying. So they're

778
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: going to make sure they're going to have to line

779
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: up the correct way. They're going to have to snap

780
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: the ball. The center going to have to be the

781
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: first person to move the ball, so everybody fires off

782
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: on the same time. I'm not against the touch push

783
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just against people lining up all sides

784
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: when I'm starting it. You know what I'm saying, not legal,

785
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If it's not if you

786
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: line up legally, everybody's head is behind the ball and

787
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: the ball is snapping, y'all end up pushing people through

788
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: because you can still push now, you know what I'm saying,

789
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: So you can still get behind me. I thought you

790
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to push. At one point you could. They

791
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: say you weren't until two thousand and five. They made

792
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a rule that because they said the referees weren't able

793
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: to tell or they couldn't it was hard to make

794
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: make the call. So they just got rid of it

795
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. So now you're able to

796
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: push people in the back, you know what I'm saying.

797
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: So now since until they get rid of that rule,

798
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: just take that out. You can tell if somebody's pushing

799
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: somebody or pulling somebody forward, Like I don't think think

800
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: that that call is that hard. So if they can,

801
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

802
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: I agree with him, Like, you don't know if he's

803
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: pushing or if he's trying to push somebody else that's

804
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: on the side of him, or something like that.

805
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: Understand you, man, all this damn slow motion, you can't

806
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: tell somebody pushing somebody well hey, hey, hey yeah, hell hell,

807
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: they don't want to. They don't want to slow that down.

808
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: That might be that's difference between you know, no points

809
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: in six points. So blow the whistle faster once Auck

810
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: is standing up, blow the whistle. Stop blading. All that

811
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: little swinging and pushing and pulling. That's what get people hurt,

812
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: running up on the pile. They standing up in the

813
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: offensive line and just running there. Throw themself in there.

814
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying, like, stop it, blow

815
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: the whistle. Ref he stood up, you know what I'm saying.

816
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: I think I think something else they need to pay

817
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: attention to is making sure the center is not all sides,

818
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: like he got this thing so deep under him, like.

819
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: His head is over the ball like that, And if

820
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: it's slow, and if it's just slow and they're looking

821
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: at the play and they see him with his head

822
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: on the flag.

823
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: Flag off rick, off rick, What are we talking about

824
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: the percentage of the touch push.

825
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: I believe will will drop.

826
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: Significantly this year, after they've made a conscious effort to

827
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: actually point it out.

828
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: I ain't I ain't gonna lie to the bo I

829
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna change. I think they're gonna still

830
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: just lie. I think they might line them up because

831
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: they I don't think they do it every single time

832
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: that they just.

833
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Fire off off before. I saw two times they did

834
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: it the last time, last time, one time. The one

835
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: time wasn't that obvious, but that second time was.

836
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Second time was late late Blake. It looked like it

837
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: looked like.

838
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: The center was trying to watch when they took off

839
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: and then snap it like, I don't you can't see that.

840
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: You can't tell it's so fast they're slowing it down. Stop, bro,

841
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: I don't even need to slow that down.

842
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that.

843
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: I saw that in real time, no question, like, it's

844
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: no way. It's no way, dude, I think. And for

845
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: them to actually like have to admit it and then

846
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: tell the people, oh yeah, we should have called that.

847
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: We missed it.

848
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Dude, they're gonna they're gonna judge this way more strict.

849
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like when when they started doing the

850
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: so called player safety and boy, they was calling everything

851
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: every day.

852
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Man, it was a hit too hard flag after that,

853
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: that's it. That's what it turned into. The hit too hard,

854
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: You hit him too hard? Did he get up? Noel, nope?

855
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Is he rolling around? Yep? Flag? Flag? Get him? Get

856
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: him up? Out of here, Get him up out of here,

857
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Get him up out of here. Man, you go telling

858
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: you that's what they was doing, man, Eagles when.

859
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: So the Eagles are down two and oh, but their

860
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: offense is less than impresses. Buddy Jalen says they ranked

861
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: twenty ninth and total offense thirty first. In the passing

862
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: Jalen hursts six, not even six, five pointy six yards

863
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: per attempt, it's twenty fourth. Oh Herd said, he takes

864
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: uh takes a lot of accountability for a lot of

865
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: it and just how we go out there, because that's

866
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: my job. My job is to go out there and

867
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: be the general orchestra everything, generally orchestrate everything and ultimately

868
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: make plays. What do you think he's playing well or

869
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 2: do you think he's just playing well because everything else

870
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: around him is good enough to let him play the

871
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: way he's been playing and come away with the wins.

872
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: I think he's playing good enough to win. I think

873
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: he's playing winning enough football. They have a great team.

874
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: That's the good part. The thing that I realize about

875
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: them is the Eagles are a solid team. They got

876
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: special teams, they got defense, they got running game, they

877
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: have they have they have the they have the weapons,

878
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he's not asked to

879
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: do as much as other other quarterbacks asked to do.

880
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: So one of his numbers to be crazy or one

881
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: of his numbers to be ridiculous. I think he's going

882
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: to start getting it too the groove right now. I'm

883
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: not saying he's playing in any type of crazy way,

884
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: but like we said before, it's so much easier to

885
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: go and study the film and see what you did

886
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: wrong from a win than a loss. And it's still

887
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: only the second week of the season. They're two to zero,

888
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: not one two, so it's not like they're nothing like

889
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: everything's falling apart. They still he still can't improve in

890
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: his passes. Obviously, they only had two passes over fifteen

891
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: yards this whole since the season started. So definitely just

892
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: being able to get get some more, give some more,

893
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: give DeVante some more opportunities, give some more deep passes

894
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: down the field. I mean, it's not it's nothing to

895
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: panic about. But still at the same time, he's never

896
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: going to give you four hundred, five hundred yards passing.

897
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: He's going to always just make sure that the team

898
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: is on they stay above the chains, handing off to Saquon,

899
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: making sure they converse, and uses his legs and when

900
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: they get tight using their touch push you know what

901
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he's never really asked to do extremely

902
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: too much, but when he is asked to do something

903
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: like when it gets to the playoffs. Right now, this

904
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: is the regular season, the beginning of the season. We

905
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: know what jayalen Hurst is capable of, we know what

906
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: the team has done before. So I'm not going to

907
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: always like say, oh no, Jayleen, your numbers aren't crazy.

908
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: You're two and zero. You're figuring it out. It's the

909
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. I trust in you. I know

910
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: you're watching tape. I know you're doing the thing that

911
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: need to be done for you to continue to get

912
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: better throughout the season and hopefully try to get to

913
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and win another one. Like his goals

914
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: are longer than just oh how am I looking? The

915
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: first two games of the season. He's not tripping like

916
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: he's been there before. People talk crap about him all

917
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: the time, so I know he wants to do better.

918
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: He knows that it isn't good enough, and he's probably

919
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: the hardest critic on himself too. He wants to be great.

920
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: He understands he has a great team, and continuing to

921
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: win is the main thing. If they were losing, he

922
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: was playing bad, it'll be a whole different situation. Oh

923
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: it's always a whole different situation.

924
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: You know.

925
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: But at the same but that's what I'm saying, him

926
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: still being able to do this with a win and

927
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: still continue to try to get better. He knows this

928
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: isn't top jailen Hurst. He's not playing at a MVP

929
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: level right now, and I think he knows that. But

930
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: continuing to win. It's a lot easier to work on

931
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: what you're not doing so well when you winning games.

932
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: I think I think right now, like you said, he's

933
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 2: doing what's necessary for them to win.

934
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Not hurting them.

935
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: It may not be helping them all the time, but

936
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: he's not hurting them. That's that's a big thing.

937
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean. I think if you go back and you

938
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: look at like I believe it was like the Ravens

939
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: when they had was it do for or something? Was it?

940
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Who was it? The quarterback?

941
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: The Ravens ended up winning at Super Bowl with and

942
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: the offense was like not really that great, but the

943
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: quarterback he.

944
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: Was just doing what was necessary.

945
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: He wasn't really helping us much, but he wasn't hurting

946
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: them and giving the defense, you know, the opportunities to

947
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: go out there and and basically close out a lot

948
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: of the games. I think this is a little different situation,

949
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: but kind of the same where you know, he's not

950
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: asked to do a lot. You got the offense right now,

951
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: they're doing great with the running grain. You know, you

952
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: got to say, kwan he's doing He's doing a tremendous job.

953
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: The offensive line's doing tremendous job. So you know he's

954
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: not he's not called, like you said, to have to

955
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: sit back and go, you know, thirty forty pass the game.

956
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: But you know, when they get to that situation, or

957
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: if they ever do get to that situation, I should say,

958
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: where the run is being stopped, you know, defense is

959
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: playing stout. Do you think he can come in there

960
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: from what you've seen, you know, just these last few

961
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: weeks and you know, win it with his arm.

962
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: From this last few weeks. No, but I seen him

963
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: do it before, and I believe that. I mean I've

964
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: seen him throw to that. I think him DeVante aj

965
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: Brown still hasn't been getting the ball as much. He

966
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: does have capable receivers, so I think if he's due

967
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: the run game is doing well, just opening up, taking

968
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: the shots, being able to throw some more given more opportunities.

969
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: He's not really even throwing those deep passes, you know

970
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to become incomplete. So I think just

971
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: opening it up, giving them a chance, giving him a

972
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: shot down the field, and I think it'll workout. I

973
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: would believe in Jalen Hurts. I know he's working his

974
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: ass off and he's he's a solid player and they

975
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: got good players around him, and he's just working hard.

976
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: So I think he has nothing but nothing because it

977
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: is gonna happen for Jalo bro in my opinion, Yeah,

978
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: I think.

979
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as things keep going well with

980
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, like you said, the defense and the special teams,

981
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: then I think things are things will work themselves out.

982
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: So listen, man, I went to the gym, right, Always

983
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: go to the gym, that's every day. So I went

984
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: in there and I'm working out right, and I'm looking

985
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: at this dude and he got like this, he got

986
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: like this cup and I see the cup, and you

987
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: know what, I gotta go get mine.

988
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shure you go ahead talk to the people,

989
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: but I'll be back. See the well man. Anybody to

990
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: go get a cup? But who was I talking about?

991
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: The Vonte Smith? Jalen Hurts hooped Bill's. But look, at

992
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the MVP of that game,

993
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: James Cook. Every toat was almost for a first down.

994
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: But Josh Allen. With James Cook there, it's taking so

995
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: much pressure. Josh, I don't go to do what Josh

996
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: I was just gonna do. He's gonna scramble, he's gonna

997
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: make passes, he's gonna make plays. But with James Cook

998
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: there running like looking so sweet, looking like the MVP

999
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: ten carries a tote, that's my MVP of the game,

1000
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: James Cook. Everyone had like seven for seventy one. At

1001
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: one point, bro Bro every toat was first down. Every

1002
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: I couldn't find it anyway, oh you know, stepped off

1003
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: and didn't come back with I couldn't even find it.

1004
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: So it's like a mug, a little mud cup, and

1005
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: I see a dude he got one, and I'm working out,

1006
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: and I saw what it. I saw what it said, right,

1007
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: So I had to tell him. I said I don't

1008
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: know if you notice or not, but one of us

1009
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: being lied to, you know what I'm saying, and he

1010
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: was like, huh. I was like, I got that same

1011
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: up and they said, the greatest dad ever. So I

1012
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: got to go talk to my kids after they get

1013
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: out of school and see what was going on.

1014
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Was they lying to me?

1015
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: Or is that is that dude, the greatest dad ever?

1016
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure that

1017
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: that was kind of messing with.

1018
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: Me, that's all. Yeah, you know they got to see it.

1019
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Look they see that's a whole contemplation going on because

1020
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: I got that same mug. You you do too. So

1021
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure gave that to you? Man? My

1022
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: Joey and my Jetsy, my young boys told me I'm

1023
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: the greatest dad.

1024
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know somebody anybody else got something out there

1025
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: like like that, Like I think every.

1026
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was just me. Damn I was special.

1027
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

1028
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: Damn, You're the greatest dad in your household, in my household,

1029
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: that's what it is.

1030
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: In the Hairson house. You that man? Oh for sure?

1031
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: For shure. Uh Now, listen, what we got here is

1032
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: a failure to communicate on. That's not it anyway. But

1033
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: you're talking nothing. I was talking to myself. I was

1034
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: looking at something. See that'd be losing you sometimes. Yeah,

1035
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't something that I was anyway,

1036
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: Pop off, what's the next thing.

1037
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: We got?

1038
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: We got super chats. We got super chats. I don't

1039
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: see it. If we got it, I don't see it. Okay,

1040
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I got super Chat, Joe, go Superchat, Nat said, James,

1041
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: just want to say, your jersey was the first one

1042
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: I ever bought. Loved the show very much, Love you both.

1043
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go, good Man. Then we got doctor

1044
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: L Frankie and L Bellamy said, keep going, guys, over

1045
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: twenty four case subscribers and it's growing every day. Twenty

1046
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: four we had twenty four.

1047
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: Now we have twenty four kd bo, it gotta be

1048
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: twenty by Now we get a G ball real quick.

1049
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: You gotta at least get a quarter, at least get a.

1050
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: D You ain't got no more, man, I got them

1051
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: I got two right there right now. Debo. Listen, uh

1052
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: uh no, sir, but you know what though, you know what?

1053
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: Look you so since what was your highlights? Of the game.

1054
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: I already told you who my who. My favorite player

1055
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: was James Cook. Who is yours d I'm thinking, oh

1056
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, yeah, I gotta. You could probably go the

1057
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: same as me if you need no, No, I got it. Well,

1058
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: yeah I could.

1059
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: But you know, Josh Allen was doing this thing though,

1060
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, doing a little flip pass

1061
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: and all that other stuff. So I gotta I kind

1062
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: of I gotta give it to him, you know what

1063
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, even though I ain't want to give it

1064
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: to him. You know, I feel like they kind of

1065
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: stole m VP from my god Martin last year. But anyway,

1066
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: I'll give it to him. I'm gonna give it. I'm

1067
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: gonna give it to Josh.

1068
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Oh lord, James, you got another one? What we got?

1069
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh lord? See, I don't know if I'm ready for

1070
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: this one?

1071
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: You got?

1072
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: We gotta wait till I can't see it. Chris said,

1073
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: today is apparently national talk like a pirate day. We

1074
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: want James to do another weird voice at the end

1075
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: of the show. Oh, I wasn't prepared for that one, buddy.

1076
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: I'll see what I can come up with. Baby, man,

1077
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: I know you got a name. You guys, I ain't

1078
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I didn't know that. I didn't

1079
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: know that about you. Better.

1080
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: That was definitely not on my man. I'm a I'm

1081
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: a train I'm gonna train. I'm a trained actor, trained,

1082
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: a little little bit trained, but now yeah, I'm gonna

1083
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: train that you. I got my sad card and all

1084
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: that good stuff. You know what I'm saying, Like.

1085
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: I do what I do. You gotta say?

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00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, okay, d bo listen man heels hell h

1087
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: e e L s heels. I believe it on Netflix. Okay,

1088
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: look at season one, season one, I'm in that. I

1089
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: play a character called Apocalypse. Yeah, bro, I'm gonna train.

1090
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was serious regular what yeah

1091
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 2: season season one though I wasn't this season two?

1092
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, did you die off? No? I wouldn't take

1093
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: the shot. Uh oh, it was doing it was doing it,

1094
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: was doing COVID. Oh yeah, I did it in Atlanta, Okay,

1095
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: and set lockdown, dude. Hold.

1096
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: We had a whole gym with a wrestling ring and

1097
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: you know, weight equipment and all that, because you know,

1098
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: you couldn't go nowhere, you couldn't do nothing. So we

1099
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: did all our training in there with each other and

1100
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: all that. So yeah, you know, trying to make you wear,

1101
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: make you wear masks and stuff, you know all that.

1102
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: Like see, bo, I am you a man of many hats, bro,

1103
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: no question, check it out though. You go watch that show.

1104
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch heels, man.

1105
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: Hey, you watched the show. You watch the show you've

1106
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: been watching. We're gonna talk about it next week. We

1107
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: talk about it on money. I'm gonna have whatever I'm

1108
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: gonna have. I'm telling you I'm decent in that thing too.

1109
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: Look at that, and you're gonna be like, Damn, I

1110
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: ain't no d BO had that any Yeah.

1111
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: For sure. I'm a movie critique for real. Okay, I'm

1112
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: a movie critic. Okay. Yeah, so I'm gonna need your

1113
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: I be critiquing people's stuff. Okay, So I'll let you

1114
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: know if it's good or not. Man, Listen, you let

1115
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: me know.

1116
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you right now, man, Bro, you know,

1117
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 6: even if it's not good, I tell you it's good.

1118
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: Listen, Man, I'm telling you it's good. No, I want.

1119
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: I want the truth with you, honestly, for truth, nothing

1120
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: but the truth always depot Come on, man, my good.

1121
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: Man, yeah for sure.

1122
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, where are you at Virginia. I'm in Virginia, brother, Yeah, Bro,

1123
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: that's so far away from Pittsburgh. Used to feel safe

1124
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: giving me a you know, honestly, you.

1125
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1126
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 6: No, de bo, see that's what I'm saying. I'm not

1127
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 6: giving you the addie. I'm just gonna tell you I'm

1128
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 6: in Virginia.

1129
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in your beach or Tyson's Norfolk.

1130
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: You have to search for me, buddy, after I give

1131
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: you this review, I will come find you. Man, You're

1132
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna give me a hug after I gave you this.

1133
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: You I'm trying to tell you, man, listen, I'm not

1134
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm I'm the coldest thing going. If they had ever

1135
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: really gave me a shot, you know what I'm saying,

1136
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: I easily be like like the next rock just a

1137
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: little better. You know. M You wrestled, Yeah, I did

1138
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: my own stunts. I did all my own stunts. Everything

1139
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: you see on there is me and so he'lls is

1140
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: a wrestling move. Yeah, it's about like faces and heels,

1141
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: so like they're using that throw off. So it's about

1142
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: a family, two brothers that are trying to get their

1143
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: small time wrestling thing big, you know, and the characters

1144
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: around it and all that, So you gotta watch it.

1145
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it for show Man because I you know,

1146
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I used to get my Ray Mystereo Jr. On back

1147
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, you got Steven A.

1148
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: Mill in it. You got Alexander Ludwick, you got Alan Mardonado,

1149
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: Chris Bauer, you have Mary McCormick. Is it Crystal you

1150
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: know what? I have trouble remembering Crystal Bernard, I believe.

1151
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: And it's a few other people in there, dude, But yeah,

1152
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: it's a Yeah, it's a good show Man, good cast.

1153
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: Michael Mallley, Yeah, is a writer director?

1154
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: You have.

1155
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: What's his name from? Oh? Oh? Why am I throwing

1156
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: a blank on his name right now? Is it a

1157
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: movie producer or something? Yeah? Yeah, I'm not the one.

1158
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: I know Steven Spielberg. It was a superhero type thing.

1159
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: What's his name?

1160
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: Oh? Man? What movie?

1161
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: Was it? Loki? Loki? Or is it? Yeah? I think

1162
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: it's Loki. What's his name? I could see his face

1163
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: right now? Why am I throwing a blank? Anyway? That

1164
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: was like twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, something like that.

1165
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: But why am I throwing a blank on his name?

1166
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: Right now?

1167
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: What's your favorite movie of all time?

1168
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: Depot Life m Eddie Eddie Murray and Martin Lawrence, Great,

1169
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: great great?

1170
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: I still watch that.

1171
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: Oh catch Little Tea Bitch that I missed, and I

1172
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: don't watch it like probably like one hundred and fifty.

1173
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: You were for word ball for ball on it now.

1174
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: Gotta be Pete Siegel. That's his name, Pete Siegel. And

1175
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: Michael Waldron is the other. Yeah, that's who I'm thinking of.

1176
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: Michael Waldron is the Loki and Pete Siegel is the director.

1177
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1178
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Waldron is writer, one of the writers, I believe. Okay, yeah,

1179
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't go wrong with with that, right there?

1180
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 2: Oh no, perfect, And I'm gonna watch that. I'm gonna

1181
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: watch that. I'm gonna watch that for shell d Bow.

1182
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: And what's your favorite movie? Man? What is my favorite movie?

1183
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: Life is up there? But I think my favorite movie

1184
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: if I just had to ask, well, it sounds green, mile.

1185
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: I just watched that last night. That's why you said

1186
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: green man. I just saw that. Man, I didn't know

1187
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: what you watched, brother Debo and help what you did? Green? Do?

1188
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I watched it no way, but John Cameras, you got

1189
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: no man but green mild though, that's one of my

1190
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: that's probably my favorite movie. Man.

1191
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 7: I love that movie, right, great, Yeah, I just want yeah,

1192
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 7: I know you said, I know that that's that's that's

1193
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 7: all right, I didn't.

1194
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: That's a classic. Yeah. I like to I like to

1195
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: laugh though, I like to laugh. There ain't nothing to

1196
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: laugh about that, bab no, no no. I like movies

1197
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: that make you think too, like some other movies like

1198
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: uh like you like The Party was a good movie.

1199
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah that was cool. M h. I like the Oceans too.

1200
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm a big Oceans fan. Oceans, Oh, Ocean like Ocean's eleven.

1201
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what I thought, Ocean twelve, thirteen, seventy five.

1202
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1203
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: They started getting oceed out though they started.

1204
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: Man, god damn, they went the ocean. There was a

1205
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: lot of ocean, too many oceans. Man, look here man.

1206
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 1: After that one man, we're gonna go ahead and take off.

1207
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Man.

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00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: Hey, we want to thank y'all for joining us. Joe

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: you here, man, man, thank you for joining us on

1210
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: d Boy and Joe show Man.

1211
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: Hit the like button, subscribe, we'll be back here again

1212
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: on Monday.

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Speaker 1: What's today? Friday? Friday. Yes, we'll be back again on

1214
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: Monday after a crazy week of football. Crazy week of football. Hey,

1215
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: make sure y'all go and watch Heels on Netflix season one. Yes, Apocalypse,

1216
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: that's my character coming to chat. Tell me what y'all

1217
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: think about de Bo's performance on Monday. Let me know

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: what y'all think. Grit and Grit, Get Gat,