Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is out of bounds.
Speaker 2: It's me, Joey p Joe Pi's appear with me my
Speaker 2: two best friends, Bogman and the Welsh, and we are
Speaker 2: here recapping the playoff games, looking ahead to some coaching vacancies,
Speaker 2: how we might fill them, and of course talking about
Speaker 2: the fantasy implications going forward for some of.
Speaker 1: The teams that are now eliminated. And let's just kick
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Speaker 1: Let's start with that first game, the Chargers and the Texans.
Speaker 1: Bogman all week the Texans were here and how they
Speaker 1: were a bye week team that wasn't like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go play the Texans. They haven't been any
Speaker 1: good and look, I think a lot of us just
Speaker 1: felt like the Chargers, We're gonna go in there and
Speaker 1: just dominate them. It was anything but. And you and
Speaker 1: I were live on Betting Pros during that game, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, we will be live again hopefully this
Speaker 1: Saturday on Betting Pros. As my grandma would say, God willing,
Speaker 1: we'll all make it there on Saturday and we'll be
Speaker 1: able to watch that football game together again and bet
Speaker 1: on it like we did last week. But some frustrating moments,
Speaker 1: some lack of opportunities cash in upon by the Chargers
Speaker 1: in the first half of that game that came back
Speaker 1: to haunt them in the second half, because that game
Speaker 1: got wacky, wild and wide open in the second half.
Speaker 1: Lad mcconkee hit his prop. That's all we really were
Speaker 1: looking for. I thought that was a big one. But man,
Speaker 1: oh man, that game got crazy after a sluggish and
Speaker 1: weird kind of exchanging of blows in the first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's not me if you've heard this before, but
Speaker 3: the Chargers just did not take advantage of the mistakes
Speaker 3: that the Texans made. Everyone else has been taking advantage
Speaker 3: of the Texans mistakes. But the defense held strong in
Speaker 3: the first half. Too many turnovers, held them only six points.
Speaker 3: We were talking about time and possession midway through the
Speaker 3: second quarter was in the Chargers favor at a ridiculous amount,
Speaker 3: and you wanted to say, well, maybe this Texans defense
Speaker 3: is just going to get worn out. The Charger is
Speaker 3: going to run away with this late but they held strong.
Speaker 3: They scored a touchdown, kicked a field goal before the
Speaker 3: half ended, took the lead into halftime, and from that
Speaker 3: point on it was pure domination in the second half
Speaker 3: from the Texans and the Chargers that didn't have answers,
Speaker 3: and when they did answer, justin Herbert threw a pick
Speaker 3: through a bunch of them. So does not a good
Speaker 3: game for the Chargers. Texans move on, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So the Chargers obviously a good turnaround last year
Speaker 1: a team that was picking in the top five of
Speaker 1: the draft. This year, a playoff team. Jim Holroll came
Speaker 1: in there, did a terrific job with this squad with Herbert,
Speaker 1: rebuilding the confidence of the team because they were dreadful
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, let's be honest, how bad they were,
Speaker 1: and how bad they've been in some of these big
Speaker 1: spots too, where they just get obliterated in some games. Right,
Speaker 1: So I understand it's a lot of moral victory stuff
Speaker 1: that doesn't go very far for a hardball but you
Speaker 1: got to look back and say, for a guy who
Speaker 1: throw three picks all year, the four interceptions, although one
Speaker 1: of them off the hands of Disley was a tough
Speaker 1: one to get charged with Herbert did not play good enough. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: so next year Welsh as we continue to look ahead
Speaker 1: to some of these teams that got eliminated, what's the
Speaker 1: big thing that you would give the chargers of you
Speaker 1: he had like a wishless. Is it another big time
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the outside. Is it something on the
Speaker 1: defensive front to stop the run.
Speaker 4: I think it's clearly playmakers like Lad McConkie, was it.
Speaker 4: They didn't have anything else. Quinton Johnston's constant dropping of
Speaker 4: the ball was a clear issue. I mean there were
Speaker 4: two to three moments where they could have pulled first
Speaker 4: downs and they were not able to do that. Because
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny when you think about and you
Speaker 4: look at like these like hardcore great wide receiver jo
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Terry mcclaurin from this weekend, the
Speaker 4: ball gets in their general vicinity, they're getting it down.
Speaker 4: Quentin Johnston plays like a cornerback who's playing wide receiver,
Speaker 4: Like he does not have the ability to catch the
Speaker 4: ball and they have nobody else around him. It took
Speaker 4: Ladd to go absolutely ballistic, and by the way, shout
Speaker 4: out to Ladd McConkie because he was my big early
Speaker 4: bet and I used him in Draft Kings. They had
Speaker 4: the touch king of the touchdown longest touchdown on Saturday.
Speaker 4: But gentlemen, check this out. So I cashed it and
Speaker 4: they actually allowed you to parlay three players, which I
Speaker 4: didn't do, and I only went lad. So awesome, and
Speaker 4: I got my bet and it's two million dollars shared
Speaker 4: around everybody who bet Ladd. I got a share of
Speaker 4: like sixty three bucks on Saturday. You didn't get a
Speaker 4: lad mconkey. Curtis Samuel scored guys the free bets that
Speaker 4: were cashed using that same contest over thirteen thousand dollars
Speaker 4: for the Curtis Samuel longest reception. So that's how fun
Speaker 4: that contest was a shout out to them, but shout
Speaker 4: out to Ladd. And they've got to build around him.
Speaker 4: And it's hard for a hardbod team that wants to
Speaker 4: you know, smash nos running the ball. He's going to
Speaker 4: probably you know, want to bring in offensive lineman in
Speaker 4: a couple more of those guys, but you've got to
Speaker 4: have a couple guys that you can count on. I
Speaker 4: think that they should go and call the forty nine ers,
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers with a guy like Brandon Ayuk Deebo.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care about Debo whatever, you have
Speaker 4: them for free, but Brandon and Ayuk would make a
Speaker 4: ton of sense. There's a few free agents that are
Speaker 4: out there, so I don't know if it's the draft
Speaker 4: or free agency, but truly, how having a guy like
Speaker 4: Lad McConkie, who can do what he can do, You've
Speaker 4: got to have a few other playmakers that can step
Speaker 4: up when Herbert is having, you know, just a horrendous
Speaker 4: playoff game and they had nobody not even close.
Speaker 1: It is the thirteenth of January's recording this and that's
Speaker 1: the first Welsh ism of the year. And if you
Speaker 1: noticed it, did you make up on it?
Speaker 3: I didn't even catch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So you took smash mouth and hard nosed and
Speaker 1: you made them uh smash Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Say smash you did. Put it on a shirt. Put
Speaker 4: it on a shirt and sell the merch.
Speaker 1: I want to play smash nose football, That's why. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I my best one of all time?
Speaker 4: That's my best of all time?
Speaker 1: It's better than hard mouthed. I'm glad it was smash
Speaker 1: nose because I don't why a whole different sort of
Speaker 1: scenario there, but that is top five Welshism all time.
Speaker 4: But we should be selling that in our store, to
Speaker 4: smash nose smash.
Speaker 3: No, Dan Campbell, I can only take him inappropriate chokes.
Speaker 1: All right, you're on our discord as always recording. Go
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Speaker 1: of the show live because we're recorded on Mondays. Let's
Speaker 1: get to one of our listeners here hanging out in
Speaker 1: the chat. Let's go to bought time crisis now, Bot,
Speaker 1: I know you had some shares with Quentin Johnston and
Speaker 1: you were not too happy about how that ended up
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 5: No, I got swindled week two, you know, when he
Speaker 5: had that big week.
Speaker 4: But then it was Pat.
Speaker 5: I remember Pat ms fitz Morris was always saying how
Speaker 5: he has frying pans for hands. But I do like
Speaker 5: a question regarding the Texans beginning of the draft season,
Speaker 5: when we were all starting out, I remember everyone kept
Speaker 5: saying like, you can't really go wrong with any of
Speaker 5: the Houston Texans wide receivers, you know, Digs, Tank, Dell, Nico. Well,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't really see much. I don't know
Speaker 5: how much longer Digs to be viable to Texans. That
Speaker 5: tank del injury looked pretty bad, and then there's obviously
Speaker 5: Nicos still be there next year. I'm like a dynasty
Speaker 5: and I'm like considering two of these guys that are
Speaker 5: on the on the waivers right now, which is Exavier
Speaker 5: Hutchinson and John Metchi. Are those any viable people actually
Speaker 5: looking at or do you think like Digs and like
Speaker 5: Dell are be fine because that looked like season ending
Speaker 5: to me or not season like career like ruining.
Speaker 1: With that, it might be that it's totally sad. It
Speaker 1: was a terrible injury to a lot of kne damage
Speaker 1: in there. And that's a great question, by the way,
Speaker 1: and for the record too, I'm one of my biggest
Speaker 1: l's that I've taken. I was very much Nico and
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch a lot of the
Speaker 1: shows in August and September, I was very team Nico.
Speaker 1: But I didn't even have him as a first round guy.
Speaker 1: I should have had him as a first round guys
Speaker 1: BacT the fact he missed a few weeks. It happens,
Speaker 1: guys get hurt. But they were right neck and neck
Speaker 1: in ADP box like you had Digs and Nico like
Speaker 1: a couple spots from each other. And I didn't understand
Speaker 1: why because it was very clear that Nico was CJ's guy,
Speaker 1: and anybody coming in neew was just going to be support.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't buying the tank Dell phenomenon too because
Speaker 1: of his size and size was something that just kind
Speaker 1: of worried me, especially coming back from that major injury
Speaker 1: the year before, the broken leg. So to his point,
Speaker 1: Mechi is the one that would stick out to me
Speaker 1: just because of the pedigree of playing at Alabama. He
Speaker 1: was always a very strong, possession wide receiver guy into
Speaker 1: me that compliments what Nico does. Do you see somebody
Speaker 1: else coming in or maybe one of these internal guys
Speaker 1: like Bot was talking about.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably a free agent or a draft pick. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I do like John Metchi a lot, and I've been
Speaker 3: at John Metchi apologist for a long time. Obviously, his
Speaker 3: career was, you know, derailed at the beginning because of
Speaker 3: the leukemia, so maybe he's working back from that. But
Speaker 3: we saw him a couple of big catches in that game.
Speaker 3: He also fumbled terrible fumble in the first half, really
Speaker 3: bad play. Xavier Hutchinson is more of a guy with size.
Speaker 3: So I think that Mechi is the correct answer here,
Speaker 3: But I think ultimately next season, because I think the
Speaker 3: Texans still have a decent amount of cap space if
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. Actually they don't twenty six in cap space. No,
Speaker 3: I must have been thinking about Patriots. Never at the top,
Speaker 3: and then you have the chart. So maybe a draft
Speaker 3: pick Raiders. Yeah, maybe a draft pick. But John Mechi
Speaker 3: is probably the guy to look at with that little
Speaker 3: cap space.
Speaker 1: All right, next game on the board here, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Bogman stew in his own juice as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Should I talk about the Steelers and Ravens and Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry just continuing to be the king and running a
Speaker 1: mac was one hundred and eighty eight, one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty six or whatever it was. It was a lot,
Speaker 1: uh And there was one point where the announcers two
Speaker 1: just were in awe of fifteen straight run plays and
Speaker 1: watching the Ravens just dominate. Which again, Terrell, I know
Speaker 1: you hear me. You kept telling me that they were
Speaker 1: gonna cover. They didn't cover. They didn't cover this was
Speaker 1: a dominant performance. I feel like the Ravens kind of
Speaker 1: even took their foot off the gas a little bit
Speaker 1: in the second half, and then you know, your third quarter,
Speaker 1: they came out, they had that one drive the Steelers,
Speaker 1: but they really did not have anything. And the thing
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to Welsh is now the Steelers
Speaker 1: are in the same spot again. They're a team that
Speaker 1: lost a playoff game again. They had a winning record.
Speaker 1: That's great, Like, I get it, you want to be
Speaker 1: a competitive team, but this was a year where I
Speaker 1: feel like you almost had the the permission of the
Speaker 1: fan base except for Scott Bogman to figure out who
Speaker 1: your quarterback in the future might be and if it
Speaker 1: was a justin Fields and instead now they're back to
Speaker 1: square one. They really I don't know who their quarterback
Speaker 1: is going to be next year. You gave most of
Speaker 1: the time to a thirty six year old guy and
Speaker 1: now you're sitting at home. So takeaways from this game
Speaker 1: and takeaways from what the Steelers need to do in
Speaker 1: the offseason, and then we'll let Bogman get all of
Speaker 1: the therapy he needs on this program.
Speaker 4: Well, the first thing on the game would point out
Speaker 4: was I believe it was Bogman that allowed me to
Speaker 4: have the second pick in or touchdown draft Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: So thank you for that. Derek Henry, I think singularly
Speaker 4: won that though. I think you have Pooka and I
Speaker 4: have Justin Jefferson still tonight. But Derrick Henry is a
Speaker 4: menace and that was the perfect perfect script for a
Speaker 4: team that was down Say Flowers. Their aerial game was
Speaker 4: a little bit you know in question overall Lamar struggles
Speaker 4: against the Steeler, everything lined up perfectly for them. I mean,
Speaker 4: the biggest takeaway is I think they are primed to
Speaker 4: make this run now because you can hopefully get say
Speaker 4: Flowers back, and you're really able to not put a
Speaker 4: whole bunch on that passing game and you can redevelop
Speaker 4: that into this now series. The funny thing with the
Speaker 4: Steelers moving forward, though, is I've seen all these people.
Speaker 4: There's two camps. There's the blow it up camp and
Speaker 4: the like I'm my team Mike Tomlin camp. The funny
Speaker 4: thing about the blow it up camp is they're already
Speaker 4: blown up. They're all free agents. The quarterbacks are free agents,
Speaker 4: the running backs are free agents. Yeah, the entire offense
Speaker 4: is for our free agents except for George Pickens, the
Speaker 4: one guy you want off of this team. If you're
Speaker 4: a Steeler fan, you got to be sick of him,
Speaker 4: even though he makes big plays and cash is the
Speaker 4: longest reception. I think the what they need to do
Speaker 4: is such a bigger, more macro question than it is,
Speaker 4: like we have to figure out, like, okay, Tomlin moves forward,
Speaker 4: are you going to how are you going to redesign
Speaker 4: this offense? You have a new quarterback, you probably have
Speaker 4: a new running backs. You cannot base this team anymore
Speaker 4: around George Pickens. That guy does not care, barely wants
Speaker 4: to be there, just like, nah, there's no growth they
Speaker 4: so the blow up has already happened for them. So
Speaker 4: I think it's already in front of us. What do
Speaker 4: they have to do? They've got to get good quality
Speaker 4: players that all mix and match together, because it seemed
Speaker 4: like a weird collection of like nause to fields to
Speaker 4: Russ to no other real weapons out there to help me.
Speaker 4: Calvin Austin can't be your second wide receiver. It's like
Speaker 4: the Chargers. You know, you got to have more playmakers.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna bring back Russ, you got to have
Speaker 4: more playmakers, so I'd like to see them just kind
Speaker 4: of rebuild it from a youth standpoint in the draft.
Speaker 4: We'll see, but it's already blown up for them. The
Speaker 4: only blowing up is getting Tomlin out of there, if
Speaker 4: they want to do that. And I think the majority
Speaker 4: of people don't actually want that steel.
Speaker 1: All right, Box, You've been marinating since late Saturday evening
Speaker 1: about this. Do you trust them to be able to
Speaker 1: put this all back together again? Because Walsh makes a
Speaker 1: great point there, like whether they like it or not,
Speaker 1: it is an open puzzle with a lot of pieces
Speaker 1: that they have to squeeze back in.
Speaker 3: Nothing matters until they get a quarterback. That's it. That's
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Answer that question. Look, here's the quarterback of the Steelers
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be Russell Wilson. I'm just I don't
Speaker 3: want it to be, but that's probably what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I think maybe they'll try to make another move. I
Speaker 3: think Kirk Cousins is an option as well, because Atlanta's
Speaker 3: probably done with him. And unfortunately, and I told you
Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago, I told you both
Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago. Aaron Rodgers is absolutely
Speaker 3: an option for the Steelers when the Jets get rid
Speaker 3: of him, because Tomlin like each other and I don't know,
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 1: With him. Would you sign up?
Speaker 3: I mean that's another piece that that look whatever, the
Speaker 3: defense is good.
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers on the Steelers next year. Please.
Speaker 3: I mean, Wells just doesn't want me to live.
Speaker 4: So I just I need Aaron Rodgers on the Steelers
Speaker 4: more than I need a forty on Er super Bowl.
Speaker 4: I'm being serious.
Speaker 1: I need anything from having his own podcast. I'm all for.
Speaker 4: Have him and Pickens. Give me an Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 4: George Pickens podcast. There are so many things I need
Speaker 4: out of that. Please put Aaron Rodgers on that Steeler team.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think Mika Fitzpatrick has done. Yeah, I think his
Speaker 3: career is about over. He you know, he was going
Speaker 3: for plays instead of tackles and that's just not what
Speaker 3: you do in a game like that. And the game
Speaker 3: plan against Baltimore was miserable. I don't understand it at all.
Speaker 3: Like what they've done the entire time throughout Lamar's career
Speaker 3: is have TJ hit Lamar if you're gonna run him,
Speaker 3: You're gonna get hit by TJ. That is basically the
Speaker 3: punishment for running him. They had him go. They had
Speaker 3: TJ after Derrick Henry on every play this year, and
Speaker 3: they even asked TJ about it, like why weren't you
Speaker 3: going after the quarterback? And he said, I went with
Speaker 3: what the game plan was.
Speaker 4: I gotta I'm really curious about this. Do you ever
Speaker 4: wonder how like football rebuilding is not built around like
Speaker 4: any other sport, Like in baseball, what do you do
Speaker 4: when you rebuild? You take your great player, you blow
Speaker 4: it up for four or five pieces, Like that's the
Speaker 4: designation of it. Like if you have a great player
Speaker 4: and you're a crap team, they're going that doesn't happen
Speaker 4: in football.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you would think TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt would be the prime example. Like take TJ. Watt,
Speaker 4: best offender in the NFL, trade him for like five
Speaker 4: or six assets, and rebuild. It just doesn't happen in
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 1: Were but you don't get to pick the asset. That's
Speaker 1: a problem is you're getting draft picks, right, Like that's.
Speaker 4: What you take players do play trail.
Speaker 1: There's hardly every big player trades. You're right, but on
Speaker 1: top of it, like usually those deals involved a bunch
Speaker 1: of drafticks, so then you have to trust you have
Speaker 1: the regime in place to identify the right players, draft
Speaker 1: the right players, and get everybody in there that you
Speaker 1: want to fill those gaps. And because of come back
Speaker 1: to the Herschel Roker trade. I mean, the last time
Speaker 1: we saw something like that Welsh was the Herschel Walker trade,
Speaker 1: which everybody at the time was killing right and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson built a dynasty off of it.
Speaker 3: The last time we saw that was Deshaun Watson trade
Speaker 3: the three first round picks. Honestly that that was the
Speaker 3: last time we saw it. It's a terrible trade, it's
Speaker 3: a bad example, but that's exactly what what it is.
Speaker 3: Usually it is for a quarterback. But I think the
Speaker 3: reason that you don't see that in the NFL is
Speaker 3: because a hard salary cap makes these teams turn over
Speaker 3: so fast. No one expected Washington to do what they're
Speaker 3: doing this year, right, Nobody expected them to make it
Speaker 3: to the second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Last season, everybody had the Texans as the bottom team.
Speaker 3: So and this goes to Mike Tomlin as well, Like
Speaker 3: every every pundit you heard had the Steelers finishing last
Speaker 3: in the division this year because Cleveland was just coming
Speaker 3: off a playoff run with Joe Flacco, right, so they
Speaker 3: had they look pretty strong. So what is it with
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin? Is he taking these mediocre ass teams to
Speaker 3: the playoffs or is he making a decent roster mediocre?
Speaker 3: That is the question the Rooneys have to answer. And
Speaker 3: we know that we know exactly what the answer to
Speaker 3: that question is. For the Rooneyes, it's I don't care
Speaker 3: what any fan has to say, or any pundit, or
Speaker 3: any radio person or any personality. We love Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3: He stays period, end of the story. So you know,
Speaker 3: all the all the talk can be going back and
Speaker 3: forth on Mike Tomlin stuff. He ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 4: Tomin's the only guy they ever want to pay. That's
Speaker 4: part of the problem too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very true. This is a very zen conversation about
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I hope the Steeler Nation people are enjoying it.
Speaker 3: I've been listening on it for five years without a
Speaker 3: playoff win. So they played that, Yeah, Jesus, that was
Speaker 3: the field Goowl game where we beat the Chiefs and
Speaker 3: Alex Smith the year before Patrick Mahomes took over and
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey biggest cry baby you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 3: Blame the refs said, the NFL wanted the Steelers to win.
Speaker 3: Huge cry baby, Go back and look at that.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can feel the hatred flowing through you. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: strike him down and you shall become more powerful than
Speaker 1: he ever was. All right, let's get to Broncos Bills. Now,
Speaker 1: this one started out a little flat for the Bills
Speaker 1: and super aggressive for the Broncos. You had fake punts,
Speaker 1: you had Bo Nicks slinging balls downfield, the first time
Speaker 1: you ever had a rookie quarterback through a touchdow pass
Speaker 1: in the playoffs to a rookie wide receiver. And then
Speaker 1: the Broncos stop being aggressive and the Buffalo Bills, well,
Speaker 1: they did the rest and you can tell it was
Speaker 1: back to James Cook. It was back to run the football,
Speaker 1: was back to basics. This is always the thing that
Speaker 1: I used to scream about about Buffalo. You have to
Speaker 1: run the football in January in Buffalo of the playoffs
Speaker 1: if you were going to get yourself to a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And the previous regime and the offensive coordinators did not
Speaker 1: want to do that. Brady last year started to do that,
Speaker 1: started to turn things around a little bit, and you
Speaker 1: saw it yesterday. That's what you need to do in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Bob's let's get your take on this real quick. Why
Speaker 1: did the Broncos stop playing fast and loose in that game?
Speaker 1: I think they were gonna lose anyway, but it just
Speaker 1: seemed like that first half they were like, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be here, Let's just go out there
Speaker 1: and just throw it against the wall. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they got conservative and the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo Bills just whooped the ball.
Speaker 3: I know the exact answer this because they didn't have
Speaker 3: the football show. They did not have the football in
Speaker 3: this game. The time of possession in this game was
Speaker 3: forty one forty three for Buffalo to eighteen seventeen for Denver.
Speaker 3: They could not keep the Bills offense off the field.
Speaker 3: They just could not do it. And this is a
Speaker 3: team that won with defense all year. They look good.
Speaker 3: I mean, this Ravens first Bills matchup in the second
Speaker 3: round is so big because that might be the best
Speaker 3: team in the NFL. Detroit's still really good too. I'm
Speaker 3: not taking anything away from them, but those two teams
Speaker 3: looked unbelievably dominant in the first round, and that is
Speaker 3: going to be a very very fun game to watch.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Denver just could not get off
Speaker 3: the field. They had thirteen first downs to twenty six
Speaker 3: for Buffalo. They had they converted two of nine third
Speaker 3: downs to eight of fifteen for Buffalo, two for two
Speaker 3: on fourth for Buffalo, two four hundred and seventy one
Speaker 3: toll yards to two hundred and twenty four. They just
Speaker 3: didn't give bow Nicks enough time on the field to
Speaker 3: get in a rhythm because the defense could not stop
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and James Cook Welsh.
Speaker 1: I would like to see the Broncos go out and
Speaker 1: get a running back because this committee that they've had
Speaker 1: just has not been the answer. Do you think that's
Speaker 1: the big offseason because they left the defense. We can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want yesterday, fine, but the defense has
Speaker 1: some players on they got some bash rushs. Obviously, Sir
Speaker 1: Tanna's a star, but it seems like the run game
Speaker 1: is the one piece that's really missing. And if you're
Speaker 1: gonna have bo Nicks have a good sophomore season, it
Speaker 1: feels like the thing you need to fix.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, on the Prediction Show earlier last week,
Speaker 4: my prediction was the Bills We're gonna blow out the Broncos,
Speaker 4: and obviously that I did not feel good about that
Speaker 4: after that first drive, But then the Broncos just showed
Speaker 4: exactly what the problem is. They have no ability to
Speaker 4: establish a run game. They have absolutely nobody and nothing.
Speaker 4: And they also like they got a cool, fun core
Speaker 4: of wide receivers, but I'm not sure I would call
Speaker 4: it like these dominant great playmakers. Marvin Mims was kept
Speaker 4: completely in check. Troy Franklin won and done, and it
Speaker 4: was just all but Courtland Sutton. So you can't and
Speaker 4: they didn't establish anything outside of trying to go deep.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna make it that far. And that's why
Speaker 4: I felt like the Bills were going to run ramp
Speaker 4: shot with them, and it happened. So yes, So clearly
Speaker 4: they need to bring in some backs they want to
Speaker 4: be able to run. Those are not the answers, So
Speaker 4: I don't know. If it's like draft and free agency,
Speaker 4: I think they need to bring in two guys. Once
Speaker 4: they can do that, they're going to be a team
Speaker 4: to be reckoned with for sure.
Speaker 3: Fifty three million in cap space by the way for Denver,
Speaker 3: so they had they can add some pieces for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, especially you saw so many guys like Mix and
Speaker 1: chopen New Spot, Henry Chopen New Spot, Saquan chopin New Spot.
Speaker 1: I mean there was a.
Speaker 4: Running back free agent. I don't even know what the
Speaker 4: free agent running back class.
Speaker 1: Looks like, you know, the free agent wide receivers off
Speaker 1: the top. My head had to look at the Oh,
Speaker 1: look as Boggs.
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, Rico Daddle, Javante, Naji Harris, JK. Dobbins, Kreeme Haun,
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren is RFA.
Speaker 4: It's not Aaron Jones or Boss. It's Aaron Jones on
Speaker 4: a rookie.
Speaker 6: You got to go.
Speaker 3: Very very good running back rookie class, very good. So
Speaker 3: they'll that's probably well, they'll get it. Get a running
Speaker 3: back from.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dredd over on our discord again, the
Speaker 1: Fancy Bros dot Com slash chat. That's the place where
Speaker 1: you can join and hang out during the show and
Speaker 1: talk to us. Dred. What was your takeaways from the
Speaker 1: weekend's games.
Speaker 6: Oh, well, the Chargers destroyed all of my bets for
Speaker 6: the weekend, So move past that. I actually wanted to
Speaker 6: ask you guys more about the MVP race if you
Speaker 6: had any more thoughts after seeing this past weekend's games,
Speaker 6: or do you think it's gonna come down to the
Speaker 6: Bills versus Ravens coming up next weekend?
Speaker 1: Well, correct if I'm wrong. Voting's already done, right, they
Speaker 1: don't vote through the playoffs, so it's not gonna matter
Speaker 1: public's perception.
Speaker 4: Though to dreddis point, public perception could get swayed here.
Speaker 4: But you're right, and that's where the discourse is going
Speaker 4: to start, is like the votes have been made, then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, let's just arguably say the Ravens
Speaker 4: just beat down on the Bills and Josh Allen has
Speaker 4: a Herbert like week, and everyone's going to be, like
Speaker 4: I told you so, it's it's Lamar Jackson. And then
Speaker 4: when Josh Allen wins it, it's going to be fervor
Speaker 4: and all the shows outside of you know, FS one
Speaker 4: are going to be able to have its about the
Speaker 4: MVP race.
Speaker 1: They've got their own problems to deal with over there.
Speaker 1: But it usually whoever wins the MVP does not win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Matt Mahomes is the only guy in
Speaker 1: the last twenty years to do it, So I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like it is not something you see very often.
Speaker 1: If you go all the way back before that, it
Speaker 1: was Kurt Warner in nineteen ninety nine was the last
Speaker 1: guy who won the MVP and the team won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that year. Typically you would think Manning, Brady,
Speaker 1: all these guys, they never coalesced and overlap. Mahomes is
Speaker 1: the last guy to do it in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they should keep it into the playoffs,
Speaker 4: But are you think I think they should.
Speaker 1: But it's a regular season award, so I get that
Speaker 1: you don't want to You don't want to be impacted
Speaker 1: too much by that, you know.
Speaker 4: I guess I don't know. I think there should be
Speaker 4: like a weight scale to it, but I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Were you and Allen guy piece Apia.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I think the the I was
Speaker 1: an Alan better, but I'm not an Allen guy for
Speaker 1: the award. So I'm gonna like separate this too, because
Speaker 1: I think that's where real I think that the narrative
Speaker 1: is playing out where we're sick of giving it to
Speaker 1: Lamar every year, and there's always fatigue in the voting body.
Speaker 1: Then on top of that, the narrative is Dereck Henry
Speaker 1: has nineteen hundred rushing yards, Dereck Henry is a monster.
Speaker 1: Derreck Henry is MVP worthy. So how do we say
Speaker 1: that about Lamar Jackson At the same time, where you
Speaker 1: look at Josh Allen, Josh Allen is playing with it, like,
Speaker 1: let's face it, the casual NFL fan does not understand
Speaker 1: who Khalils Shaki is. I'm telling you, they don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't care about Dalton Kincaid. The casual NFL fan
Speaker 1: does not recognize these names. They see Josh Allen putting
Speaker 1: this no name team quote unquote on his back, and
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily fair, but I think that's the perception. Bob,
Speaker 1: Do you agree that that feels like the narrative that
Speaker 1: was built and it got close at the end those
Speaker 1: last two weeks. You could see it got much closer
Speaker 1: in the betting market, but it was still Josh Allen.
Speaker 4: Who would you say Lamar? You think, but you bet Alan.
Speaker 4: If I had a vote, I would vote for Lamar.
Speaker 4: I would That's what I because I think he's I
Speaker 4: think this is the best version I've ever seen of Lamar,
Speaker 4: and it's not his fault that he's playing with the
Speaker 4: best help that he's ever had, and God forbid we
Speaker 4: give somebody some help, right, I mean, it's not like
Speaker 4: Peyton Manny didn't have Marvin Harrison and then Reggie Wayde and.
Speaker 1: Some good players around him. You know, Tom Brady had
Speaker 1: Randy Moss one year.
Speaker 3: My vote would be for Lamar, but it is so
Speaker 3: close that I don't really have I don't have an
Speaker 3: argument to stand on between picking either one of these guys.
Speaker 3: I think they're both definitely worthy. I would say it's
Speaker 3: hard to not pick Lamar. I think the reason he
Speaker 3: doesn't win it is voter fatigue. He's already won it twice,
Speaker 3: but this is the best statistical year that he's had,
Speaker 3: and he already has two MVPs. So I think it's
Speaker 3: going to go to Josh Allen, but I would vote
Speaker 3: for Lamar as well.
Speaker 4: Voter fatigue is the lamest thing.
Speaker 3: I hate it. If you know what, right.
Speaker 4: For this guy they If anybody ever were to say
Speaker 4: the words voter fatigue and they should not have a
Speaker 4: vote like that's the most and I don't disagree with
Speaker 4: what you're saying, but the idea that everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're just so tired of this guy being so good,
Speaker 4: and it's like, that's not how this works. That's not
Speaker 4: how this works, guys. So there's no voter fit.
Speaker 3: Not screening.
Speaker 1: I agree one thousand percent on you, but unfortunately just
Speaker 1: not the way it goes, all right, Packers Eagles. You know,
Speaker 1: I was not surprised that Eagles were a little flat,
Speaker 1: having not all played, you know, a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: off for Jalen Hurts Saquon with the week off last week,
Speaker 1: so that it would surprised me that they didn't come out
Speaker 1: guns of blaze in the second half. A j Brown
Speaker 1: reception total did not hit. Very frustrating for me personally
Speaker 1: on that one, but just kind of a game where
Speaker 1: you never felt the Eagles were gonna lose Welsh, but
Speaker 1: the Packers just injuries after injuries, didn't everle Xander for
Speaker 1: this game, didn't have Watson, they lost Dobbs. It just
Speaker 1: it just got to become like a mashoot out there.
Speaker 1: I was never worried about the Eagles wining this football
Speaker 1: game before, during or even towards the you know, second
Speaker 1: half there, and at the same time I expected a
Speaker 1: little bit more out of them. However, the defense was
Speaker 1: tremendous shutting them out in the first half too. I
Speaker 1: don't care who it is, you shut somebody out in
Speaker 1: an NFL first half, that's a playoff team. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty astounding look for the defense.
Speaker 4: I think what you said is the best way to say.
Speaker 4: There was never a moment where I was like, well,
Speaker 4: you're grom the Packers. Just Jordan Love just continuously doesn't
Speaker 4: look good. Like whether's elbows thing this week. He's not
Speaker 4: looked good for a month. The passing game, they don't trust,
Speaker 4: I mean not to his you know, there's nothing against
Speaker 4: him and this, but like he lost Dobbs, he lost
Speaker 4: Jayden Reid, he didn't have Watson, like he kept losing guys,
Speaker 4: but also just made really bad decisions. Josh Jacobs held
Speaker 4: that entire offense on their back. I guess the only
Speaker 4: worry would have been, like the Eagles being a little
Speaker 4: bit flat. But yeah, to your point, like, I just
Speaker 4: never had a moment where I'm like, oh, they're gonna
Speaker 4: drop this game. It's like, now, a defense played how
Speaker 4: it needed to. The offense did just enough to be
Speaker 4: really great, though I would have loved DeVante smith first
Speaker 4: touchdown instead of stupid johan Don. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: they just did enough to get by squeaked by, and
Speaker 4: then they can fix all their things. They can go
Speaker 4: and read A. J. Brown's motivational book or whatever and
Speaker 4: they can figure out their next matchup. You see, he
Speaker 4: picked up a book on the sideline John the book did.
Speaker 1: We find out? Because I just come home from coaching
Speaker 1: flag football and I had seen the thing and for dummies,
Speaker 1: that's that's what it was, like, how do how do
Speaker 1: uh how to be successful and make friends? Or whatever?
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, Howalen.
Speaker 1: Hurts to like me and throw the ball to me? Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how to deal? How why do I hate
Speaker 4: my best friend?
Speaker 1: Influenced people would make friends? Right?
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it was some like like inner success type of
Speaker 4: thing and he had it highlighted, but like it.
Speaker 1: Was one of those moments that's good.
Speaker 4: Oh, it totally was that. There's a moment. They had
Speaker 4: this great clip online you can find were you just
Speaker 4: know A. J. Brown knows the cameras on him because
Speaker 4: he's sitting there and he just reaches down on the
Speaker 4: bench and he picks up the book and looks, and
Speaker 4: DeVante Smith is kind of turned over almost look. It
Speaker 4: actually felt like a scene out of the office, Like
Speaker 4: I felt like DeVante Smith was going to talk to us,
Speaker 4: like like look in the camera and he was just
Speaker 4: gonna be like in that moment, I didn't know what
Speaker 4: was going on. Like I really felt like it was
Speaker 4: an office moment.
Speaker 1: You want to play like that Curby your Enthusiasm theme
Speaker 1: over it down. He justits that it opens the books.
Speaker 1: It on the bench. Oh goodness, gracious, Bogs. Any notes
Speaker 1: for you on Eagles Packers? You want to just jump
Speaker 1: to the night game the Packer.
Speaker 3: The Packers just turned the ball over too many times,
Speaker 3: three picks from uh Love, and they had the fumble
Speaker 3: on the opening kick, which should not have been a fumble.
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't understand that at all. Like
Speaker 3: Nixon clearly recovered the ball, they reviewed it and then
Speaker 3: still gave it to Philly. I did not understand that well, because.
Speaker 4: They still think they gave it. The initial call was
Speaker 4: that they had recovered it and they didn't see enough
Speaker 4: evidence to overturn it.
Speaker 3: That was they don't have eyeballs. Ball was a problem yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I know. I'm not blaming you. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying they don't have eyeballs. It was pretty clear to me.
Speaker 3: I thought Nixon picked that ball was the problem. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: oh no. AJ Brown gave me this book. By the way,
Speaker 3: did you guys see the ref go over and talk
Speaker 3: to Josh Allen? I sidelined.
Speaker 1: I did see that.
Speaker 3: He said that the ref came up and said, quit
Speaker 3: screaming about calls or you're gonna get fifteen. He's like,
Speaker 3: that was basically the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So, and quarterbacks don't get coddled in the league, right
Speaker 1: only Patrick Mahomes. Okay, let's get to uh the off
Speaker 1: season for the Packers real quick. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the timetable is for Chris Godwin, but that's the guy
Speaker 1: I'd like to put on the Packers. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a free agent this year. They need a guy that is,
Speaker 1: you know, reliable, and I think that's the thing that
Speaker 1: they don't have. They've got some talent that wide receiver
Speaker 1: course sporadically, but reliability, I think is the one.
Speaker 4: I think of the worst scenario for him, Like they
Speaker 4: run rotations, like what are you taught like?
Speaker 1: Run rotations, I think because they have to.
Speaker 3: I think that Godwin will not be rotated, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's the big problem is is you you
Speaker 1: have to start locking in some guys to some spots
Speaker 1: for Jordan Love and for the concer read this offense.
Speaker 1: And Godwin's a guy that I feel like you can
Speaker 1: lock in and you can move around and you could
Speaker 1: feel good about his productivity. Again, health is the question,
Speaker 1: but that would be a guy that I'd like to
Speaker 1: see them look after, all right, Commanders Buccaneers, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield led the league in fumbles, and some of
Speaker 1: those fumbles came back to haunt him in this game, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Just bad timing on a couple of things here. Literally
Speaker 1: you had the center snap of the ball when nobody
Speaker 1: was ready. You had a couple other weird moments of
Speaker 1: this game. You also had a penalty that you should
Speaker 1: have been called that was not past interference on zach Ertz.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, despite some shady
Speaker 1: decision making by Dan Quinn, like I don't know why
Speaker 1: you're not kicking a field goal while you're going for
Speaker 1: fourth down, stuff like that, but ended up working out.
Speaker 1: You get the field goal that hits off the uprights
Speaker 1: and goes in. Everything's just coming up Jayden Daniels this
Speaker 1: year and this Washington Commander's team, I think we all
Speaker 1: believe they're gonna get their doors blown off against the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. But who cares? I mean, Welsh, this is
Speaker 1: such a successful season for Jayden Daniels and the Commanders
Speaker 1: and Bobby Wagner, you know, had some really good moments
Speaker 1: in that game. He was like, you know, a rejuvenated
Speaker 1: veteran Bobby Wagner, kind of like popping off one more time.
Speaker 1: So what were your takeaways from that night game?
Speaker 4: I think the Bucks would have really benefited from establishing
Speaker 4: the run game early. I think Bucky Irving had like
Speaker 4: five or six carries in the first half. Obviously as
Speaker 4: someone that was betting the over on that, like he
Speaker 4: got to seventy nine and then he lost two or
Speaker 4: three yards on the next carry and they stopped. But
Speaker 4: like they I think he had double the rushing attempt
Speaker 4: output in the second half. So if they had gotten
Speaker 4: to that and established that, you know, you can run
Speaker 4: against the Commanders, that would have probably helped a decent amount.
Speaker 4: But it was a wild game again on the prediction side.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think this is gonna be the
Speaker 4: best game, and ended up being the best game because
Speaker 4: of the craziness. And I don't think you guys saw
Speaker 4: like Zane Gonzalez, I didn't know. I mean, I've live
Speaker 4: in Arizona. I didn't know about this in his ASU days,
Speaker 4: but he has this weird OCD tick where I don't
Speaker 4: know if you guys saw the video, every three seconds
Speaker 4: he was doing this and then he would put his helmet,
Speaker 4: but he'd almost put his helmet on, and then he
Speaker 4: would stop and he would do his hair. He did
Speaker 4: it like seven times, and it was giving everybody anxiety.
Speaker 4: And that was his OCD kick and then it you know,
Speaker 4: donks right off of the upright and then it goes in.
Speaker 4: As someone also who had bets, I was praying that
Speaker 4: field goal wasn't going to go, so we were going
Speaker 4: to go to overtime because then we're smashing Irving and
Speaker 4: I needed a couple more yards from Baker. So that hurt.
Speaker 4: But it was a fantastic game. Commanders are one of
Speaker 4: the best stories this year, and every player in the
Speaker 4: NFL wants to play for Jayden and Daniels I actually
Speaker 4: think back to Ayuk wanting to be traded to go
Speaker 4: and play with Jayden Daniels. You had Malik Neighbors did
Speaker 4: a video in the stands like, Jade Daniels is phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Crush those completion over I think he had twenty four
Speaker 4: in the game. He is an absolute dude and his
Speaker 4: player stepped up where others didn't. Like we're talking about
Speaker 4: the Chargers, Terry McLaurin. Incredible plays. You know, Brian Robinson
Speaker 4: was out there and Jayde Daniels ran that offense. It
Speaker 4: was it was masterful and kind of a bummer that
Speaker 4: the Bucks got knocked because I enjoyed watching them. But
Speaker 4: better team won and Commanders and Jad and Daniel moving
Speaker 4: on Daniel tyreek.
Speaker 1: Hill to the Commanders, let's go Boggs. What do you
Speaker 1: want to do to help out the Bucks at the end.
Speaker 1: You want to get him some safety help. You want
Speaker 1: to get him a corner, Like what do you want
Speaker 1: to do here in the off season for the bucket
Speaker 1: of game?
Speaker 3: It's a it's all defense. It's right, it's all defense.
Speaker 3: The offense is okay. I mean, obviously you would love
Speaker 3: to have Chris Godwin back, but jayma McMillan filled in fine.
Speaker 3: Mike Evans seems to be ageless, so he's going to
Speaker 3: be back. Baker is back, right. You know who could
Speaker 3: really use Baker Mayfield right now? The Browns. Uh, they
Speaker 3: they could really use Baker Mayfield right now.
Speaker 1: You should do that, dude.
Speaker 3: It's all defense. It's secondary help for them. They try.
Speaker 3: You know, Carlton Davis is banged up, they sign him
Speaker 3: this offseason. They need to put pressure on the passer more.
Speaker 3: They need another edg rusher, real, real bad to help.
Speaker 3: So the problem, I mean, we saw Baker Mayfield play
Speaker 3: great the whole year. This offense is not the issue.
Speaker 3: And Washington did not even play their best game by
Speaker 3: a lot. They barely won this game because they didn't
Speaker 3: take those opportunities earlier in the game. So you think
Speaker 3: against Detroit they're probably gonna be taken some points. But
Speaker 3: against Detroit that might be where you want that mindset
Speaker 3: more going forward on fourth down five times and that
Speaker 3: type of stuff, because you know that they're going to
Speaker 3: do it as well with Dan Campbell. So I do
Speaker 3: think that that's going to be a very interesting game
Speaker 3: Detroit and Washington next week.
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Speaker 1: talk about coaching vacancies. Mike Vrabel, head coach of the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I never saw it coming. I
Speaker 1: just I'm overwhelmed with shock and awe. I'm just really
Speaker 1: excited to be honest, like, I'm just that's the guy.
Speaker 1: Last year I didn't get him. I waited. I got
Speaker 1: him this year for Christmas. I'm very happy. It's it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm ecstatic. I'm over the movie. Mike McCarthy, Well, he's
Speaker 1: out of a job right now, and that is one
Speaker 1: of the more openings now joining Dallas New Orleans of
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, the Jets, the Bears, and the Jaguars. So
Speaker 1: I want to go through the guys here and have
Speaker 1: a little fun. I want to see with some of
Speaker 1: the candidates that we have, who might be a good
Speaker 1: fit for some of these openings. Bogs, let's start with
Speaker 1: you with the Dallas Cowboys. Who would you like to
Speaker 1: see be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to see it be somebody terrible.
Speaker 3: Let's get Dion in there. That's what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 3: Dion would be great going to Dallas. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's a real scenario. I don't think he's ready, and
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent happening. I'm shocked that you really. I
Speaker 4: don't even think there's a question that Dion is going
Speaker 4: to be the Cowboys cod. Wow, that's happened.
Speaker 1: I think it's honestly Welsh. I'm with you. I think
Speaker 1: it is absurd, But it's Jerry Jones. Why wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be absurd at this point?
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: I mean what he's forgotten. I think those players would
Speaker 1: respect him. The Michael Parsons of the world Deon Sanders.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't think it's a long term good effect,
Speaker 1: but it might be a weird short term bump where
Speaker 1: he those that crew, they you know, they grew up
Speaker 1: with these stories of Deon Sanders and you know the
Speaker 1: highlights of Dion. I don't know, Welsh go ahead continue
Speaker 1: on with no.
Speaker 4: I think they go and they get some veteran former coach.
Speaker 4: Probably they have some connections to Deon.
Speaker 1: To be the o C.
Speaker 4: You get just like you know, you know, former locked
Speaker 4: in guys for d C and o C. Dion gets
Speaker 4: to control the team. He is going to be a
Speaker 4: fan favorite. And what I was I said before is
Speaker 4: like the Cowboys like two days ago, were saying Mike
Speaker 4: McCarthy can't interview for the Bear's job. I think that's
Speaker 4: what got they They said no, and then they fired him,
Speaker 4: like obviously he wanted out. I think they need to
Speaker 4: rally back, you know, I mean obviously, like you know,
Speaker 4: Cowboys fans as long as Cowboys are winning, they're going
Speaker 4: to be fans. So they're losing fans right now. So
Speaker 4: they got to get they got to get that crew
Speaker 4: back out here. Lakers aren't doing so great So Cowboy
Speaker 4: fans are struggling out here. They got to get Deon
Speaker 4: Y just lost the World Series was just lost for
Speaker 4: Cowboys fans, gonna two one hundred percent. They lost on Sodo,
Speaker 4: Yankees fans and Dodger fans and all of them. They're
Speaker 4: all struggling right now. But I think the Cowboys would
Speaker 4: benefit from like the publicity of it is it is
Speaker 4: it like a great move, Like no, probably not, like
Speaker 4: I agree, like Dion isn't ready, but I think that's
Speaker 4: going to allow You know, Dion is gonna be one
Speaker 4: of those players that's going to have that portal of
Speaker 4: like NFL players wanting to come play for him, that
Speaker 4: college side that's going to want to come play for him.
Speaker 4: Look what he did in Colorado. I think it's an
Speaker 4: absolute no brainer. If Mike McCarthy's out there, you're not
Speaker 4: going to go and bring Pete Carroll in to be
Speaker 4: the Cowboys coach. It's definitely Deon Well.
Speaker 1: She was the next side coach of the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 4: Oh God, the New Orleans I know that one.
Speaker 3: This is the rumor, this is why he wanted out,
Speaker 3: is to go to New Orleans, which I don't understand
Speaker 3: why that seem like the worst job to get.
Speaker 1: Away from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 4: Wasn't he there before the forty I think before he
Speaker 4: took the OC job in the for Was it before
Speaker 4: or after the forty No, it was before the forty aers.
Speaker 4: I think he was with the Saints before he went
Speaker 4: to the Niners and then became the Packers head coach.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what his history with the Saints is,
Speaker 3: but they're fifty million over in cap space again and
Speaker 3: the roster is awful on offense outside of Kamara and Olave.
Speaker 3: So I just it seems like the worst job in
Speaker 3: the league to me. But the rumor right now is
Speaker 3: that this is why McCarthy wanted out, was to go
Speaker 3: to New Orleans. Maybe he likes ownership there.
Speaker 1: Defensw thousand of two thousand and four, so maybe it
Speaker 1: is an ownership.
Speaker 3: Really, he's a bit, he's a big dude, so maybe
Speaker 3: he just likes the food. I mean, I would move
Speaker 3: to a city lot, so yeah, exactly for me. Gumball
Speaker 3: John Balayah never had Gumbo in my life.
Speaker 1: The Jet's next head coach I think should be Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 1: Bring the hometown guy back. Yes, get some discipline on
Speaker 1: this team. I want to see Aaron Glenn be the
Speaker 1: next head coach of the York Jets. And you know what,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys want that job because they don't
Speaker 1: want to work with Whatddy Johnson. I think Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: could pull it off. Vegas Bogs. He got any ideas
Speaker 1: for a Vegas head coach? Here for the Raiders?
Speaker 3: How about John Gruden? No? Is that too much?
Speaker 1: Too soon?
Speaker 4: He's up with Barstool. He's doing the extremes and stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't think he even wants to do that. I
Speaker 4: know he wants to.
Speaker 1: It feels like an offensive coach. O, guys, I think
Speaker 1: this is where you get Kingsbury to tell you the truth.
Speaker 3: Said Dan Kingsbury.
Speaker 4: He's Bill Belichick. Tom Brady takes over as the main guy.
Speaker 4: He brings back Belichick.
Speaker 1: Now he's got to pay ten million though, to get
Speaker 1: him out of UNC.
Speaker 4: Nothing money.
Speaker 1: That's that's one game for him for Tom Brady Broadcasting.
Speaker 4: Let's get it rookie cards. He'll just sign a couple
Speaker 4: of cards and he's got it.
Speaker 1: He's locked, all right, Chicago Bears, Ben Johnson, do we
Speaker 1: all agree that's what Johnson ends up.
Speaker 3: I think this is where Cliff Kingsbury goes, oh okay,
Speaker 3: because he worked he worked with Caleb Williams. Williams at
Speaker 3: usc AS is oc there and I think that relationship
Speaker 3: is big. And I think if you're the Bears, you
Speaker 3: have to fix this quarterback issue. You've had too many
Speaker 3: quarterback issues. So even if Kingsbury isn't the you know,
Speaker 3: successful head coach that you want to bring in, I
Speaker 3: think he settles that relationship with Caleb Williams. He can
Speaker 3: figure him out. And I think Kingsbury is it has
Speaker 3: to be smart enough at this point to know I
Speaker 3: need to hire somebody to control this defense and just
Speaker 3: let him do it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he needs to hire a timeout guy too, because
Speaker 3: he doesn't know what to do with timeouts at all.
Speaker 3: So I I mean, see a clock operator guy. A
Speaker 3: lot of teams are doing it. He has to have
Speaker 3: that guy ready to go. So I think Kingsbury needs
Speaker 3: to figure this offense out.
Speaker 1: Specifically, Well, where's Ben Johnson? Then, welch is that Jacksonville
Speaker 1: that's the only chair left to sit in.
Speaker 4: I think there were connections. I think there was like
Speaker 4: like they're extremely interested. I kind of agreed, like when
Speaker 4: we said no, But I'm like, where's Ben Johnson going
Speaker 4: to go? I don't know if you want to go
Speaker 4: to that spot, but I think that is you have
Speaker 4: a quarterback theoretically, Yeah, I guess, and you've got you've
Speaker 4: got like you get to build her on Brian Thomas
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Yeah, I think that would make
Speaker 4: some sense. I don't think that's a great place to go.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a good job. But yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: go with I'll go with Jacksonville because Ben Johnson has
Speaker 4: got to be the hottest candidate here.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the touchdowns and then we'll
Speaker 1: take a trip down to Florida. Speaking of the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: Scott Bogman. Actually Welsh is leading right now. So Welsh,
Speaker 1: why don't you make the first pick? Then I will
Speaker 1: pick and Bogman we'll have for two here in the
Speaker 1: touchdown draft for the divisional round of the playoffs. Welsh,
Speaker 1: where do you want to begin?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So we're doing three rounds.
Speaker 1: We'll do three rounds yet again, Okay, got one, Bogman
Speaker 1: has one, Welsh has three, and he's still got Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson left to go tonight. I think, yeah, Bogs got
Speaker 1: pook Oh you got Pooka tonight too, So I'm just
Speaker 1: the loser with one. So maybe I should draft. I'll drive.
Speaker 1: So here we got Welsh, then Bogman, then me. Let's go.
Speaker 4: All right, I am going to start it off with
Speaker 4: We're gonna go Derick Henry again. So he was my
Speaker 4: second overall pick. Why would I not go right back
Speaker 4: to Derrick Henry?
Speaker 1: Makes sense to me. All right, Scott Bogman, you get
Speaker 1: the second pick. Where are you going?
Speaker 3: Josh Allen? Josh Allen?
Speaker 1: All right, so it's me for two again. Oh goodness, gracious,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Let's give me Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go with Saquon here for a touchdown?
Speaker 1: And wait a minutemanna go for the second? Where are
Speaker 1: I go? Give me Mark Andrews. Mark Andrews, by the way,
Speaker 1: a really good second half. After being just brutal and
Speaker 1: people dropping in fancy leagues, people realize how many touchdowns
Speaker 1: the end up by the end of the year. Not
Speaker 1: a bad look. All right, back to you.
Speaker 3: Box, let's go wit ta mere Gibbs, got you son
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a really good one. I
Speaker 1: should have taken Gibbs there, but that's okay. I could
Speaker 1: have got Andrews later. I was under the gun there,
Speaker 1: all right, back to you watch for two and then bogging.
Speaker 4: One hundred thousand percent who I wanted.
Speaker 1: All right, So well we've got it. We can't take
Speaker 1: any Vikings yet or Rams unless you want lucky.
Speaker 3: You can risk again, you have a lead, no risk,
Speaker 3: getting no risk, getting.
Speaker 1: No all right.
Speaker 4: So one I'm gonna take is Cook. So how about
Speaker 4: the leading rushing touchdown guy and getting a touchdown there?
Speaker 4: And then let's go with I really wanted Jamier Gibbs.
Speaker 4: Let's go to I'm on our saint Brown. We're gonna
Speaker 4: take a wide receiver in there in that matchup with
Speaker 4: the Commanders. I feel in a very good spot, as
Speaker 4: does our own stink MANGIONI is feeling pretty good. He
Speaker 4: sent me a private message, by the way, and he
Speaker 4: was like, I believe in you. He's like, you are
Speaker 4: going to do this, and I'm like I am there
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 1: All right, Bobs, back to you for a touchdown for
Speaker 1: the Division round of the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Jalen hurts hurts.
Speaker 1: It is, all right, which comes back to me here,
Speaker 1: give me Gosh. I want to take Josh Allen, but
Speaker 1: instead I think I'm gonna go Terry McClure. Let's go
Speaker 1: with t mc all right. I'm not taking Josh all
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it this time. But you can't Josh
Speaker 1: all my first can't take That's right, I can't. Sorry, No,
Speaker 1: wonder why I can't do it?
Speaker 3: Taking Mark Andrews over there too, busy taking Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1: That's I'm feeling the Mark Andrews right now. All right,
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