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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Lake Kick is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday Night, March seventh, The Ear of Our

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Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty one, jam packed, full details coming up

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Speaker 2: momentarily before I even get into our first hobby tonight

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Speaker 2: on Tomorrow Night's special.

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Speaker 1: You've been given a name. It's really cool. I'll give

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Speaker 1: it to you in just a second.

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Speaker 2: We are jam packed, though, when it comes to college

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Speaker 2: football tonight, we are talking about the Tennessee Mood Tracker.

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Speaker 1: Kind of going in verse order here.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a lot of names to

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Speaker 2: watch that have already come out of the transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: Some are still there. We don't know where they're going

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Speaker 2: to go. Henry Toatoo comes to mind. But I'm going

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Speaker 2: to discuss guys who we already know a landing spot for.

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Speaker 2: These are guys that probably you know, a Vegas odds

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Speaker 2: maker would a signed anywhere from half a point to

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Speaker 2: two points of value on.

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Speaker 1: But yet any given game.

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Speaker 2: You know our philosophy on this, you cannot quantify the

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Speaker 2: point impact, the overall numeracal impact that a guy's gonna

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Speaker 2: have on one game. The guys I'm going to talk

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Speaker 2: about tonight can actually change the outcomes of games, so

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: That before we go off the air. We have got a.

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Speaker 2: Wide ranging G five Power five quote unquote debate discussion.

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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it has been very mischaracterized.

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Speaker 2: I found out this week from a couple of you

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Speaker 2: my own thoughts on this have been mischaracterized. So I

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Speaker 2: want to use tonight right here in early to mid

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Speaker 2: March to sort of reset the table on where I

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Speaker 2: stand on this. You can decide where you stand on it,

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Speaker 2: and we will discuss. Also, I got some questions about

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Speaker 2: various programs around the SEC. I'm going to do this

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Speaker 2: for a couple of different conferences. We're going to start

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Speaker 2: the SEC tonight, just some spring questions. But before we

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Speaker 2: get to that, okay, here are the details I promised

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Speaker 2: you to lead the show. We are going to have

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night our first ever Late Kick Show Owners Association Special.

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Speaker 2: We do this every time I top another thousand followers

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. Sounds very self absorbed, and that's because it is.

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Speaker 2: But I at least like to reward you when I

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Speaker 2: do hit those benchmarks. And so when we pass thirteen

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Speaker 2: K I told you I got something coming up. This

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Speaker 2: is it a lot of you entered your name into

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Speaker 2: the lottery last week. I gave you multiple chances. Don't

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Speaker 2: worry if you didn't get your name in, you will

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Speaker 2: be given plenty more opportunities as we hit those future benchmarks.

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Speaker 2: But here's what's happening. Tomorrow night at seven Eastern sixth Central.

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Speaker 2: We're going to record this. If you entered your name

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Speaker 2: into the lottery the moment we go off the air tonight,

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Speaker 2: producer Jordan who runs our podcast for Late Kick, he

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Speaker 2: will send out an email. You will find out at

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Speaker 2: that point. It's kind of like in the movie Deep Impact.

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Speaker 2: You find out if you've got a slot to survive

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Speaker 2: the asteroid or not. Not quite as consequential tonight, but

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Speaker 2: you will find out if you get a shot or

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Speaker 2: get a slot rather on this special. So tomorrow night,

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Speaker 2: if you get the email, you'll get a zoom invite.

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Speaker 1: You will come. We will record it.

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Speaker 2: Producer or director Colin will then dress it up for

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Speaker 2: video and we will debut that Wednesday on the twenty

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Speaker 2: podcast side of things, we'll also dress it up and

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Speaker 2: we will debut it Wednesday on the podcast. So you'll

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Speaker 2: get to listen to it or watch it wherever you are.

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Speaker 2: This won't be a live product, but it's going to

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of these ideas.

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Speaker 2: We just have to, you know, have some time, have

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Speaker 1: But again looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Watch your email inboxes because you will get a link

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Speaker 2: sent to you and a description for the way this

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Speaker 2: on future shows, got to get us to fourteen k

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Speaker 2: at late kick Josh on Twitter now before we get

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Speaker 2: started tonight, a lot of you have been everywhere from

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Speaker 2: the eye Josh, to the Twitter, DMS to the email

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Speaker 2: inbox asking me if I'm going to talk about Rush

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Speaker 2: probes tonight. Yeah, I'll talk about Rush propes for two seconds. Jesse,

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Speaker 2: There are some very very sketch aflely linked video today

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. Let me just put it mildly that purports

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Speaker 2: to have Rush Probes vocalizing various allegations and details of

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Speaker 2: recruiting and proprieties all around the Southeast. Now, I am

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Speaker 2: not going to invalidate or validate the specifics of what

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Speaker 2: Rush Probes said, because normally I like to have a

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Speaker 2: nice rule on this show where we waited about twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours to allow these things to marinate and simmer,

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Speaker 2: find out what's real what's not, blah blah blah. However,

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Speaker 2: people who have thrown Rush Probes and his character rightfully so,

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Speaker 2: because now he just happens to be saying something that

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Speaker 2: my finger as I turned the digital page on my laptop.

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Speaker 2: This is from a piece on ESPN Dot com I

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Speaker 2: think it's one of the best things they've ever put out.

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Speaker 2: It is called The Confessions of Rush Probst. Rush Props

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Speaker 2: once upon a time spilled his guts to ESPN. And

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Speaker 2: this is a guy who if you're from the Southeast,

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Speaker 2: dive in, shall we. I was looking at the inbox

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Speaker 2: I'm asking you actually, as I sort of in a

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Speaker 2: It's very complex. Very rarely are these sorts of overarching,

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Speaker 2: So tonight I realized, because I was going back and

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Speaker 1: Maybe I've done a poor job of it.

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Speaker 2: So hey, luckily they give me shows every week to

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Speaker 2: it mean to you? So here's what I got drawn into.

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Speaker 2: But the reason it's probably a semi widely held stereotype

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Speaker 2: came from my statements about the playoff in years past.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I have done in the past. I

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Speaker 2: have taken a principled stance not against any one team,

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Speaker 2: It's never had anything to do with the quality of

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Speaker 2: to be or should be, rather a prerequisite on the

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Speaker 2: minimum baseline strength of schedule you should have to play

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Speaker 2: you just think G five programs suck, You think they're inferior,

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Speaker 2: you think they shouldn't never belong. In the same sentence, now,

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Speaker 2: that's not what I think at all. So here is

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Speaker 2: very commonly what is talked about when it's this whole

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rehash this much more.

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Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with quality of team, has everything

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Speaker 2: You certainly won't use it as a resume booster for

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Speaker 2: There's heavy overlap. The top of G five has heavy overlap.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about, well, you know, the

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Speaker 2: that's the battle they should be fighting. That's the battle

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Speaker 2: They were the better team, They looked better, their roster

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Speaker 2: All is equal. I want to stay home, and a

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, you can take the Clemson

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Speaker 2: More things I want to get to here. So spring

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Speaker 2: several conferences. I'm going to start with the SEC tonight,

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Speaker 2: some big spring questions. There is this fine balance in spring.

436
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Speaker 2: I talk about this all the time, sort of in

437
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Speaker 2: the summer what I call preview magazine season leading up

438
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Speaker 2: to the start of the regular season, and it's when

439
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Speaker 2: you start filling out sort of your mental bank of information.

440
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Speaker 2: Spring football is really when we start to do it

441
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Speaker 2: around here. And so, you know, you start to learn

442
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Speaker 2: the rosters, You start to learn some notable names, who

443
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 2: transferred where, who declared for the draft, some depth chart stuff. Yeah,

444
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Speaker 2: you start to formulate all that in your mind. What

445
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Speaker 2: I want you to be careful of. And again we're

446
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: all about sounding very very smart around the water cooler,

447
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 2: and eventually maybe if you're about this sort of thing,

448
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 2: winning some money on this in the fall. You got

449
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Speaker 2: to be careful not to marry yourself to any of

450
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Speaker 2: these opinions. That's why we don't throw out big broad

451
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Speaker 2: opinions in the spring or really even SEC Media Day

452
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Speaker 2: or Big Ten Media Day season in the summer, there's

453
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Speaker 2: nothing with which to be strongly opinionated on quite yet,

454
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Speaker 2: you get in a fall camp, you start getting whispers

455
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Speaker 2: from people on the ground. Well, then our tone changes

456
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Speaker 2: around here a little bit.

457
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Speaker 1: So be careful.

458
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Speaker 2: I'm about to talk about a bunch of programs right now.

459
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Speaker 2: You just got to be careful. Just take it, filter

460
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Speaker 2: it properly, and put it in the back of your mind.

461
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Speaker 2: Don't start making your preseason projections in the middle of March.

462
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Speaker 2: At Georgia.

463
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Speaker 1: Let's start.

464
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Speaker 2: There going to be a lot of talk, as there

465
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Speaker 2: should be about JT. Daniels, about the quarterback situation. I'm

466
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Speaker 2: watching that too very intently. Let's not overthink the room

467
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Speaker 2: here that's going to ultimately decide whether Georgia wins the

468
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Speaker 2: SEC East this year or not. There's going to be

469
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Speaker 2: plenty of focus there. I will just tell you because

470
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Speaker 2: of the next facet of Georgia's team that I'm about

471
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Speaker 2: to talk about, I don't doubt for a second that

472
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Speaker 2: this year, this twenty twenty one season, will be the

473
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Speaker 2: strongest that Kirby Smart will have ever been predisposed to

474
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Speaker 2: lighting a match under his offense. Part of that reasons

475
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Speaker 2: cause he probably thinks he's got the personnel to do

476
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Speaker 2: it now, whereas he may not have felt totally comfortable

477
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Speaker 2: with that in the past. Let me tell you the

478
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Speaker 2: other part, though, I'm looking at a list here of

479
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Speaker 2: experienced corners that Georgia has. The list is blank, there

480
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Speaker 2: are no There are some talented guys here, but with

481
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Speaker 2: Tyreek Stevenson transferring out, who we're going to talk about

482
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Speaker 2: later in the show.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at.

484
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Speaker 2: Keiglee Ringo, big time name, no experience, a mere Speed,

485
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Speaker 2: Nyland Green, Jalen Kember, all these were big time names.

486
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Speaker 2: You're not on the field for Georgia if you weren't

487
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Speaker 2: an elite recruit. None of them have any experience. And

488
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Speaker 2: so what I'm looking at is, I'm watching Georgia this

489
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Speaker 2: fall and I'm watching them play teams like Clemson, and

490
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Speaker 2: I'm watching them obviously go through conference play in the SEC,

491
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Speaker 2: and I am, you know, I'm kind of rubbing the

492
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Speaker 2: magic eight ball right now, and I'm seeing some teams

493
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Speaker 2: able to throw on them, and I'm seeing them potentially

494
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Speaker 2: struggle to get off the field. Some I'm on third down,

495
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be able to score. Kirby smart

496
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Speaker 2: knows this. This is not something that's going to occur

497
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Speaker 2: to him in like week three of the season. They

498
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Speaker 2: know it right now. So you got a confluence of

499
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Speaker 2: a couple of events. Number one, this should be you know,

500
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Speaker 2: when they decided to crank it up a little bit

501
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Speaker 2: offensively anyway, finally got the quarter they need, got a

502
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Speaker 2: lot of receiver talent. But the second part is it's

503
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Speaker 2: gonna have to be done by necessity. They're gonna have

504
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Speaker 2: to score, probably going to have to score a little

505
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Speaker 2: bit more than they're used to. Let's go and hop

506
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Speaker 2: on I twenty and head west about three or four

507
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Speaker 2: hours and let's go to Tuscaloosa. Wide receiver and offensive

508
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: line is what we here are paying very very close

509
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Speaker 2: attention to with Alabama. I want you to imagine something

510
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: because you can't imagine this with any other team. There's

511
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Speaker 2: no other program out there, don't care who it is.

512
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Speaker 2: Where you're changing quarterbacks and you're losing guys like Jalen

513
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Speaker 2: Waddle and DeVante Smith, Naja Harris mac Jones, not to

514
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Speaker 2: mention multiple starters on the offensive line and replacing an

515
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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and yet still looking at that team and saying, yeah,

516
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Speaker 2: but I'll probably start the number one in the country anyway. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: that'll still be the preseason favorite and the best conference

518
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Speaker 2: in America anyway. It's kind of second nature now with Alabama.

519
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: It's amazing the thoroughness which which that machine operates now

520
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: to where you can just kind of think like that,

521
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Speaker 2: and you're not even alone thinking that way. They'll still

522
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Speaker 2: be the assumed number one here. John Mechi is a

523
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Speaker 2: guy who they're gonna obviously look to to kind of

524
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Speaker 2: step up, because now over the span of two years,

525
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 2: forget just one year. Over two years now, yeah, you've

526
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Speaker 2: seen Jaylen waddle Leeve, You've seen Devonte Smith Lee, You've

527
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Speaker 2: also seen.

528
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Speaker 1: Rugs, and you've seen Jerry Judy Lee.

529
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Speaker 2: Like, that's a lot of talent that's headed out here

530
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Speaker 2: over the span of twenty four months. And you've now

531
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Speaker 2: said goodbye to Matt Jones. So there's not a lot

532
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Speaker 2: of doubt in Tuscal Loose about whether Bryce Young can

533
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Speaker 2: get the job done.

534
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's nearly as much.

535
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Speaker 2: Debate, let's say, in the quarterback competition as will be

536
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Speaker 2: manufactured over the offseason. It's Bryce Young's job like there'll

537
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Speaker 2: be a lot of dust created over the summer.

538
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Speaker 1: It's going to be Bryce Young's job.

539
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Speaker 2: Boring injury, of course, But some of these names, like

540
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: BAMA players and fans, they know the names like Xavier Williams,

541
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Speaker 2: ty Jones Bell I was really looking forward to Javon

542
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Speaker 2: Baker last year. Didn't get on the field quite as

543
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Speaker 2: much as we thought he would. But then they got

544
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Speaker 2: all these newcomers coming in. Three of these dudes, the

545
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Speaker 2: ones I'm about to mention, they're on campus for spring ball.

546
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Speaker 2: Jacorey Brooks, Aggie Hall, Christian Leary. They're all on campus

547
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Speaker 2: this spring. So the part A there is how many

548
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Speaker 2: of those guys who have waited their turn are ready

549
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 2: to be legitimate studs, which is what you have to

550
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Speaker 2: be to play wide receiver for Alabama, or how many

551
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: of these new guys are immediately ready to jump into

552
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Speaker 2: starting jobs. But I say all that with the backdrop

553
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: being offensive line, which is also just kind of assumed

554
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: at Alabama right now. But they lost Deontay Brown, they

555
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: lost Landon Dickerson, and they lost Alex Leatherwood. They just

556
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Speaker 2: landed the top two tackles in the country. That's good.

557
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Speaker 2: They may need them. They've got really good depth there.

558
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: That's good thus far, it's unproven. Again, these are questions

559
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Speaker 2: we've learned not to really ask or worry about a

560
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: whole lot about when it comes to Alabama. But that's

561
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Speaker 2: what God created spring football for at Auburn, bo Nicks.

562
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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, When I say that, what comes to mind

563
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: probably an overthrow by about twelve yards, Probably terrible footwork,

564
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Speaker 2: Probably third and seventeen. That's probably what comes to mind

565
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Speaker 2: when I say bo Nicks. Right now, it's been such

566
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Speaker 2: a strange career because I'm still adamant that if Lincoln

567
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: Riley just to pick a name out of the air

568
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Speaker 2: that's good at developing quarterbacks. If Lincoln Riley were to

569
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Speaker 2: have come into Alabama and recruited Bononicks and landed him,

570
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Speaker 2: I think Bonnicks would be a star quarterback at Oklahoma

571
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Speaker 2: because in terms of physical traits, I think he's got.

572
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Speaker 1: Everything you need.

573
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Speaker 2: I think he went into a terrible situation, a horribly

574
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: ill equipped program at that point under Gus Malson to

575
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Speaker 2: develop his skill set, and so now physically like his

576
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: game has been a mess. It's been totally inconsistent. Mentally,

577
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Speaker 2: he's been totally inconsistent. And so now the big question

578
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: with him is how much do you have to deprogram him?

579
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Speaker 1: How much do you have to rewire him?

580
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Speaker 2: Because if he was a true freshman, it'd be one

581
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Speaker 2: thing like I think Harson and Boba would probably almost

582
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: rather inherit true freshman Bonnicks, because yeah, it'd be a

583
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Speaker 2: lump of play though, but at least you could start

584
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Speaker 2: to mold it immediately. Right now, you've got to de

585
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: moold it from what it has been and then go

586
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: to work on remolding it. And they lose Seth Williams,

587
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Speaker 2: they lose Schwartz, they lose Eli Stove. There, so a

588
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Speaker 2: lot of the depend factors that he had out wide

589
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: to lean on they're gone. I mean, Tank Bisby's back

590
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: in the backfield. But I wonder over the course of

591
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: spring and they'll start to get a feel for it

592
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Speaker 2: as a coaching staff.

593
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Speaker 1: Too, Like what are they really dealing with with bo Nigs.

594
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Speaker 2: Is this a guy who you can just take one

595
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: brush of the eraser and wipe the slate clean or

596
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: is it something where when you get to the end

597
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Speaker 2: of spring, you're only just scratching the surface of kind

598
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Speaker 2: of getting him set mentally. And at that point, I mean,

599
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: like you don't have a whole lot of time left.

600
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Speaker 2: You're gonna have some off season stuff you can't really

601
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: legally participate in, and then you got fall camp, and

602
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: at that point you got to be installing, like you

603
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: gotta be ready to play games by them. How about LSU,

604
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: I wrote defense, not even one position, not even one person.

605
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: I'm just watching defense for LSU. I'll first be watching

606
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Speaker 2: what impact there is when guys on defense finally have

607
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: a coordinator they actually, I don't know, want to play for.

608
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: That's always nice to have in your back pocket. So

609
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Deronte Jones is the new DC there. For those of

610
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Speaker 2: you unfamiliar, he's come in. He replaces bo Polini. There

611
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: is a theory m returning starters out there, a couple

612
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: of them. Actually, some people love returning starters as this

613
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: blanket stat and they don't really care what the production

614
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: was the year before. Other folks like to have a

615
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: bunch of returning starters if they're coming back from a

616
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: team that was good. If the team was terrible, they'd

617
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: just rather hit the flush button and then start over. Well,

618
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: at LSU, we.

619
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Speaker 1: Don't have either of those categories.

620
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Speaker 2: We have a bunch of guys coming back from a

621
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Speaker 2: unit that was terrible last year.

622
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Speaker 1: So you can take a couple of schools of thought.

623
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Speaker 2: If you're an LSU fan or you're just gonna watch LSU,

624
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: you could think that a lot of that was a

625
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: byproduct of second time we've used this word to not

626
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: a confluence of horrible events up to an including hiring

627
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: Bopolini last year, and then they're just going to be

628
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: a lot better this year, fresh start, etc. Or you

629
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: could say, got a lot of guys coming back. Not

630
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: so sure I am buying in yet remains to be

631
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: seen for me. I can tell you they're ultra excited

632
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: down there, But then again, I don't know how much

633
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: to believe in that because this was the same program

634
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: who's head coach told me last year that we have

635
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: upgraded defensively. Well, they hadn't. So yeah, you got a

636
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: lot of guys who were at one time big deals

637
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. It was a win when LSU

638
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: landed all these guys. They don't lose very much at all.

639
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: They got a lot of guys coming back. You know,

640
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe it's a neck up thing. Hopefully it

641
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: is I don't think they can get worse. There were

642
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: some statistical categories LSU important statistical categories. They were in

643
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: the hundreds and which is inexcusable obviously, and last but

644
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: not least, stayed in the SEC West. Here, I go

645
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: to college station and I look at Texas A and

646
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: M and all the question is going to be about quarterback.

647
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Kellen Mon's been there for like a decade. He's gone,

648
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: So Haines King is going to be the presumed starter.

649
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Speaker 1: That is something I agree with.

650
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: However, that probably won't be where most of my focus

651
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: is for the spring because I'm looking at their offensive line,

652
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: which was to me, I said at the end of

653
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: last season, probably the most anonymous great unit in America

654
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: was Texas A and M's offensive line.

655
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: They just did their job.

656
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: In fact, if you were to go back to twenty nineteen,

657
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: I wrote it down somewhere twenty nineteen. Yeah, so they

658
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: had thirty four sacks given up in twenty nineteen. They

659
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: gave up seven last year, just quantum leap of improvement.

660
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: How they lose four out of those five guys. So

661
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: we come back to that familiar conundrum returning starters. How

662
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: much do they matter.

663
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, you're losing a bunch of starters off a really

664
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: good unit here.

665
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: So for all the talk validly so that we'll be

666
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: put out there over the off season about Haines King Man,

667
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: keep a close eye on this practice reports out of

668
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: college station about this offensive line, because that ultimately is

669
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: going to determine probably the difference between what Haines King

670
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: even has a shot to do this year and as

671
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: a default, what Texas A and M has a shot

672
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: to do.

673
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: We're going to do that about a bunch of conferences.

674
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: That was just some kind of hop skipping to jump

675
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: around the SEC tonight. Spring football is a great time

676
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: of year. Transfers are going to play a big role

677
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: in this. A lot of you have been talking my

678
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: ear off about the Transfer Portal.

679
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: It has been one of the most consistently.

680
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: High performing search terms on twenty four to seven sports

681
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: dot com. Anytime we've put out a transfer portal video,

682
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: it's done great numbers on the YouTube channel. So you

683
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: stack the channel, you stack the show. We're talking about

684
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: him again. I want to get a little bit deeper though,

685
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: and little more specific tonight. Several impact transfers that are

686
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: going to matter, not only in spring, but obviously this

687
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: upcoming season, we are emphasizing this big time. I think

688
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons.

689
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: But there is a.

690
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: Distinction I want to make here, and this is going

691
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: to be a theme all throughout the season. If you're

692
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: a first time viewer of the show, as Jesse shows

693
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: you a lot of the key transfers for the upcoming season,

694
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: there is a distinction between true value and odds maker value.

695
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this list right now.

696
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: Let's take DeMarcus Bowman, running back transferred from Clemson to Florida.

697
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: He's the first guy I'm going to cover anyway, So

698
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Bowman. If I were to ask an odds maker

699
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: how many points is DeMarcus Bowman worth, they wouldn't even

700
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: tell you he's worth one point in a game. But

701
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: yet DeMarcus Bowman in any given game could be worth

702
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: ten to fourteen points. He could impact a game in

703
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: that matter. It's what I'm saying. An odds maker would

704
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: never assign him seven to ten points of value, but

705
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: he could be worth that in a given game. And

706
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: the reason I bring that up is because that's why

707
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: these transfers are so important. There could be given games

708
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: this far where one or multiple of the names on

709
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: that list you just saw actually determine the outcome change

710
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: a W or a loss to a W or a

711
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: W to a loss because you lost that guy. Transfer portal,

712
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: giveth transfer portal, take it away. So DeMarcus Bowman is

713
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: the first name I want to touch on. Florida's got

714
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: a pretty loaded running back room, like if you just

715
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: look at it on paper, and they need it. By

716
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: the way, they shift to Emery Jones as their quarterback

717
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: this year. He himself is a threat with his legs.

718
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: But if you look at their running back room, and

719
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: you may think for a second, oh, I see Peers,

720
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: I see Davis there, I see right, And now we're

721
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: adding to Marcus Bowman. Where are all these carries gonna

722
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: come from?

723
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Number one?

724
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: Never worry about having too many riches at any position,

725
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: much less running back.

726
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Number two.

727
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Dan Mullins already talked about this at some points this spring,

728
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: talking about a lot more maybe two back sets this fall,

729
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: which is to be expected because you do not have

730
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: Kyle Trask anymore. You do not have guys like Kyle

731
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: Pitt's on the field anymore. Canarius Tony guys You never

732
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: wanted to take off the field. Well, now it'll be

733
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: a different look in offense this year, probably one familiar

734
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: if you've watched it and Mullen for a long time.

735
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: But de Marcus Bowman when you talk about skill set,

736
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: like overall package could have the best out of anybody

737
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: in that running back room. But at the very least

738
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: you need the depth at running back because of the

739
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: slightly different style of offense they'll run this year. So

740
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: keep an eye on to Marcus Bowman, which you already

741
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: were going to. He was our number two rated transfer

742
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: per the twenty four to seven Sports Transfer Portal rankings.

743
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Milton probably the most fascinating name on this list.

744
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: You remember him a couple of years ago. He was

745
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback at Central Florida got the injury. He was

746
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: kind of glossed over because he's rehabbing, so he's kind

747
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: of out of sight, out of mind. I hate that

748
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: it has to be that way, but it was. So

749
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: as Dylan Gabriel stepped in, Mackenzie Milton goes in the

750
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: transfer portal, he lands at Florida State. So you always

751
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: have that thing in the back of your mind anytime

752
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: a guy's been injured. You have that thing where damaged

753
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: goods man, I don't know. Yeah, the name I remember,

754
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: but when I look at the player, am I going

755
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: to remember the player?

756
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Well? I've listened really close.

757
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: To Mike norvel and some people out of Florida State

758
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: when they've talked about him, And granted, Norvelle's pretty new there,

759
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: so you don't learn how to interpret a coach's coach speak,

760
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: let's say, until he's a few years in. I listened

761
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: to Mike Norvill a whole lot at Memphis, just to

762
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: be honest with you, So we'll see. Take it with

763
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: a grain of salt. But here's the good news. Mackenzie

764
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Milton has been fully cleared for spring. They are emphatic

765
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: in their insistence. They being Florida State, they are emphatic

766
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: in their insistence that he's good to go. He's full speed,

767
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: he can do everything that he previously could do. Now, obviously,

768
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: I have some natural skepticism in my mind, just because

769
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: I've watched this game for so long and I've watched

770
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: guys trying and come back from injuries. But I will

771
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: say this, if Florida State is being authentic and genuine

772
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: and they're correct, about what they're saying out of Tallahassee

773
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: about the status of Mackenzie Milton, and it's still spring

774
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: like we're not going to have to wait until later

775
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: in the year to even see if he can get cleared.

776
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: If all that's on the up and up, this could

777
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: be the one you circle as being the biggest story

778
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one because if he is like what

779
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: he used to be, if he's that product, he's going

780
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: to make an immediate impact on the field for Florida. Stay,

781
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I don't care who else you have on the quarterback

782
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: depth chart, Mackenzie Milton in his old form is as

783
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: good as anyone that have there and so that could

784
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: in turn be something that sparks Florida State. Just something

785
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: to watch. How about Wandell Robinson. Wandell Robinson, so we've

786
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: got him ranked as the top receiver in the transfer portal.

787
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson was Nebraska's best offensive player before he decided

788
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: to transfer and come closer to home. This is the

789
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that's going to happen in the portal,

790
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Like if you just geographically happen to be positioned in

791
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: the right place, like Kentucky is Wandelle Robinson decides, I

792
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: want to go closer to home. I'm a Wildcat and

793
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: this is very big. So not only do you just

794
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: take a team's best offensive player, that's my opinion. By

795
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: the way, it's not that we had him rated there necessarily,

796
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: but number two, Remember they're installing everything new offensively at Kentucky. Kentucky,

797
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: Missouri and Kentucky are not typically programs that are talked

798
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: about a whole lot. In fact, I didn't even touch

799
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: on him in the sec spring segment.

800
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: We just did.

801
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Kentucky and Missouri both fastened for different reasons. But Kentucky's

802
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: you're installing a new offense here, and so yet like

803
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: we got to figure out quarterback Joey Gatewood or who

804
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: else is going to be a quarterback there?

805
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Got to figure all that out.

806
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: But it sure does help when you have these role

807
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: players and you're not going to ask a quarterback to

808
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: just well, you got to shoulder the load. Whoever we

809
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: pick got to shoulder the load. Wandelle Robinson's a difference maker.

810
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: Wandell Robinson in a program that tends to play a

811
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: lot of close games, that could be a guy who

812
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: is the difference between six and six, and eight and four,

813
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: seven and five, nine and three. You just never know

814
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: how that's gonna happen. Eric Gray is another one that

815
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: really fits that description. And this is boy that twenty

816
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: nineteen to twenty twenty stretch. Eric Gray is a really

817
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: good football player running back headed from Tennessee to Oklahoma.

818
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: There's no way Lincoln Riley could have planned this.

819
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: You just got to leave yourself some flexibility so that

820
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: you can be the beneficiary if this does happen to

821
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: fall in your lab just like the next guy we're

822
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: going to talk about, also Oklahoma.

823
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: The beneficiary there. But he's a physical runner.

824
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be a really good one combination because

825
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: you've got Kennedy Brooks there already. Obviously it's a really

826
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: good one too. Combination. But I'll tell you something else

827
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: I think, and I had someone else tell me this too,

828
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: sort of a personnel guy in the SEC. I think

829
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: he was very underutilized as a receiver at Tennessee, partly

830
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: because that's just not what they wanted him to do.

831
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: That's not what they were asking him to do.

832
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception that maybe he's more a

833
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: straight runner. He's gonna give you a physical presence, but

834
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: he's not someone that you're gonna probably throw the ball

835
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: to a whole lot. No, he can be I fully

836
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: believe he can be that probably a lot more underneath stuff.

837
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 2: He's not going to stretch the middle of the field vertically.

838
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: But Eric Gray can be a really effective sort of

839
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: in that manner, a dual threat talent at the running

840
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: back position.

841
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's the.

842
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: Next Naje Harris, but I'm telling you he can do

843
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: some of the things that Harris could do and should

844
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: have been asked to do that at Tennessee a lot more. Also,

845
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: Wanya Morris headed from Knoxville to Sooner Country. They're out

846
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: in Norman. He was a freshman All American in twenty nineteen.

847
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: COVID got in the way of a lot of guys

848
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Wanya Morris was one of them, and

849
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: so like you didn't quite get what you thought you'd

850
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: get out of him. This is a guy who is

851
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: an NFL type. He's a plug and play type as

852
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: an offensive tackle. He is an immediate contributor. So those

853
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: two guys, Gray and Wanya Morris are immediate impact players

854
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: that again just because of circumstances outside of Oklahoma's control

855
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: they benefited from. That's the way the transfer portal's going

856
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: to work. Every year, someone's going to be a big

857
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: winner that they themselves didn't even know that be in

858
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: position for six months earlier. And last but not least,

859
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: maybe even most, Tyreek Stevenson from a team in Georgia

860
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: that has so many question marks at corner right now,

861
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: the one commodity proven that they would have had at

862
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: corner said I want to go back home too. This

863
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: is a former five star guy. This is a guy

864
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: with NFL physical pedigree and potential, and he's also in

865
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: a college football contract year. This is the year. This

866
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: is the year. A lot of people at Georgia had

867
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: circled to think Tyrek Stevenson was going to pop this

868
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: year for them if he was on campus in Athens. Well,

869
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: now he transfers. He's got his reasons like they're whispers.

870
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

871
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: Whatever the case is.

872
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: It's not anything necessarily off the field related. There's no

873
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: hidden there's no hidden story there that you need to

874
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 2: know about that's going to impact his play on the field.

875
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: He's a good player. He has not reached his physical

876
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: potential or his ceiling as a player.

877
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: He is a.

878
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: Thoroughbred of an athlete. I mean, he's an incredible athlete

879
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: and he goes now into a situation where he's headed

880
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: into a program that playing time is going to be

881
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: available for him. And secondly, it's a place where a

882
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: lot of people are trying to feel themselves out. Like

883
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: you saw Miami on the field with Clemson this past year.

884
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: They wondered whether they belonged. Well, if you wonder, you

885
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: don't belong Tyrek Stevenson is the kind of athlete you

886
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: need more than him. But Tyreek Stevenson is the kind

887
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: of athlete that when he walks onto the field, he

888
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: looks like the Clemson guys. Look, you got to get

889
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of those guys. So baby steps obviously,

890
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: but those are some of the impact transfers to watch

891
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: this year. And also keep in mind a guy like

892
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: Henry Totoo is still in the portal. We've got big

893
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: time guys still in the portal that have to kind

894
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: of feel things out. You know, there's different circumstances for

895
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 2: different guys. Guys, and also we have the post spring

896
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: period and that's how I want to wrap it up.

897
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: All the names I just mentioned, I think some of

898
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: us have been lulled into a false sense of thinking

899
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: this thing's over. We've probably only seen the first wave

900
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: of what will eventually perennially be known as two phases

901
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: of transfer portal madness, one of them pre spring and

902
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: then one of them post spring. When guys see where

903
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: they fall in the depth chart and then they decide

904
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: whether they want to move on. So keep an eye

905
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: on that. Let's wrap it up tonight with the Tennessee

906
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: Mood Tracker. The Tennessee Mood Tracker special to me because

907
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: I got a very special place in my heart for

908
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: the Tennessee fan base. Their loyalty through mountains and mountains

909
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: of adversity over the past decade has been spectacular to witness.

910
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: Not spectacular in the sense that it has been fun.

911
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: It's just been incredible to watch. There was a conversation

912
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: I remember when I first got here, which was in January,

913
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: late January of last year. We were talking in the

914
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven office just across the way here,

915
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: which is a ghost town now, but I was talking

916
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: with Luke Stampedi, who works here, and I was talking

917
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: about LSU in twenty nineteen. I was looking at some

918
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: traffic reports and how the increase on the LSU site

919
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: spiked obviously because of what happened in twenty nineteen. And

920
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: we're just kind of saying, what could be the next

921
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: fan base, what could be the next just monster program

922
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: that's waiting to spike like that From a traffic standpoint,

923
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 2: it's Tennessee. It's obviously Tennessee. Tennessee's been a sleeping dragon.

924
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: It seemed like one hundred years now. And so I

925
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: always I just sit here and wait and I wait

926
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: and I wait, and you guys wait and you wait

927
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: and you wait. The reward for that patience. Here's where

928
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: it gets tough to talk about. Is an ncaa cloud

929
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: and being asked to invest more patients?

930
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: Is it fair?

931
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: No? It's not.

932
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: Is it reality? Yeah?

933
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: It is. So I go over to the Tennessee message

934
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: board over in VOLS twenty four to seven today and

935
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: I said, hey, guys, I kind of sheepishly came in.

936
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: I said, hey guys, it's that time. It's mood tracker time.

937
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: One word or phrase, give me your mood towards Tennessee

938
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: football right now. So here's what we got. I want

939
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: you to notice what you don't hear hyped spelled hu

940
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: e p e D, a play on the last name

941
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: of Josh Heipel proud. I'll get back to that in

942
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: a second. Ready, a lot of cautious optimism obviously, wait

943
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: and see punch drunk, jaded, cleaned out, meaning that the

944
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: flush button has been hit and it's just start over

945
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: yet again up there. But I want to circle back

946
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: to that proud saw a couple of those. The pride

947
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: is in the idea right now that everyone associated with

948
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: Tennessee football wants to be at Tennessee. No one's stuck

949
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: around there because of the fringe benefits that you get

950
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: for being on the Tennessee roster right now or being

951
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: a coach at Tennessee.

952
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: It's bare bones there right now. There's a lot of uncertainty,

953
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: so you can.

954
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Rest assured and bet your bottom dollar anybody there wants

955
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: to be there. That's a source of pride, obviously. But

956
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: then the second part is you got to either be

957
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: one of two things right now in college football. You

958
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: gotta be good or you at least got to be

959
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: fun to watch. Tennessee was bad and boring under Jeremy Pruitt.

960
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: That's just a terrible combination. And yet still everyone perseveres

961
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: fan base is still there. They keep running. You feel

962
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: like you just ran a marathon and you're poor and sweat,

963
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: and the meter says you just went twenty six point

964
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: two miles or however long that is. But then you

965
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: look down and you were on a treadmill the entire time.

966
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: You haven't gone afoot further than you were before you started,

967
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: And so you're bent over, hands on knees, and you're

968
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: and then you look up and then you say, all right,

969
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: well we've come this far, let's just keep going. But

970
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: remember when I told you, notice what you didn't hear

971
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Out of all these these moods that I was given

972
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: from Tennessee fans, no one said they were done, which

973
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: a lot of you probably would be. Like if you've

974
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: watched Tennessee voyeuristically, if you've watched from a distance, I

975
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: guarantee you at some point you've said, how do these

976
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: people put up with this?

977
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Like?

978
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: How do they continue year after year after year to

979
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: underachieve relative to the potential of this program? And the

980
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: answer is loyalty. That's the reason why I talk about

981
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Tennessee a lot on this show. It's cause we get

982
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: a lot of viewers when I talk about Tennessee. That's loyalty.

983
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: They're not good right now. There's a difference. When you

984
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: talk about Alabama, you talk about Ohio State, you're going

985
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: to get a certain portion of folks who watch those

986
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: videos just cause.

987
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: They're good and they matter and they're nationally relevant.

988
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Tennessee is none of those right now, and yet the

989
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: fan base is still there, which obviously leads someone like

990
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: me to ask, hmm, what would it be like if

991
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: they were good.

992
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: It's been a generation.

993
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm talking national relevance, not going nine

994
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: to four. National relevance at Tennessee is something in concept

995
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: form that's so old. If you're about to be a

996
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: recruit in high school, you don't remember it. I mean

997
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: two thousand, mid two thousands. That's the last time Tennessee

998
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: would have really been nationally relevant was twenty twenty one,

999
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: right now, Like, if you're about to be a senior

1000
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: in high school, what were you? You were two years old,

1001
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: three years old at the time that Tennessee was last

1002
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: nationally relevant, and still they're there, and so what did

1003
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: they need to nail right now. Well, what they needed

1004
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 2: to nail was the hire, but not the head coaching

1005
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: higher that we can get around to in just a second.

1006
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: They had to nail the athletic director higher. So there's

1007
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: a lot of excitement at the very least that they

1008
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: nailed the athletic director hire in Danny White. Because here's

1009
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: what hasn't been wrong at Tennessee. They haven't had bad luck.

1010
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: It hasn't been a recruiting issue. Tennessee's problems have been

1011
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: poor hires, and they've been poor hires made by ill

1012
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: equipped athletic directors and people around that athletic department that really,

1013
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: as it turns out, did not know how to hire properly.

1014
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: And so I know right now it's kind of in

1015
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: vogue to look at Josh Heifel and to cast your

1016
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 2: own opinions on him. You'll notice there's been a little

1017
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: absence of that on this show. It's been intentional. I

1018
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: haven't given a grade on the hire. I haven't told

1019
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: you three years they're looking for another head coach there.

1020
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: Even if I feel that way, who cares? Because if

1021
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm a Tennessee fan, here's how I'm looking at it.

1022
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: I've watched us when the press conference. Enough like, I've

1023
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: watched guys step to the podium and say all the

1024
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: right things. I've watched all the energy. I've watched all

1025
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: the sprinkles, and yet the icing and then the cake

1026
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: is just absent. I've seen all that. So let's get

1027
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: a guy in here that seems boring when it comes

1028
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: to the press release we put out. Maybe he wins, though,

1029
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: maybe that's the guy. I'm gonna reserve judgment and I'm

1030
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: gonna watch and see what transpires on the field. Then

1031
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: we got this whole ncublea thing behind us. But ma'am,

1032
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: they've had a hiring problem, and so maybe Josh Haipel

1033
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: is the right guy. But even if he's not the

1034
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: right guy, even if we're having to reset this button

1035
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: again two or three years down the road, even if

1036
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: the worst were to happen. From the nc double a

1037
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: point of view, you've got to build the fountain. You

1038
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: cannot be adding two or three stories onto the house

1039
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: and the foundation's just sand. We've got to be able

1040
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: to make good hires. And that's why I'm so excited

1041
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: about Danny White being in there. There are no sure

1042
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: things in this world. But Danny White is an athletic director,

1043
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: is about as close to it as we get. Then

1044
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: we can start extending. Then we can start doing what

1045
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: the other programs do and actually making quality hires. Then

1046
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: those quality hires can build a solid foundation. Then we

1047
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: can get a legitimate recruiting plan in place and realize

1048
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: we don't have to own the state of Tennessee. We

1049
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: can go to Atlanta, we can go to Charlotte, we

1050
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: can go to Memphis, which is in Tennessee. I don't

1051
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: know if you knew that.

1052
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: We can go around.

1053
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: We don't have to be we land locked into the

1054
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: borders of our state. We just got to get the

1055
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: right guy in place. And so that's what you.

1056
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: Hope you've done there.

1057
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: But you know what, like it's not gonna play itself

1058
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: out in year one, it's not gonna play itself up

1059
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: probably in year two. We're looking at the composite right now,

1060
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: and Jesse's showing you a lot of things that scream

1061
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: graphically the same message. It's gonna take a little while.

1062
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: Wish I had other news. I don't, But this is

1063
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: a mood tracker segment, And as long as there's still

1064
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: a little optimism in the mood of Tennessee fans. Then

1065
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: there's still the same folks that I've come to know

1066
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: him as, which is fiercely loyal. Maybe you could argue

1067
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: to a fault over the last decade, but fiercely loyal.

1068
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: So that's the Tennessee mood Tracker. And that's our show

1069
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: for tonight. Remember, right as we go off the air here,

1070
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: producer Jordan on the podcast side of things will be

1071
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: sending out a notification if we selected your name and

1072
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: the lottery for tomorrow night's Late Kicks Show Owners Association

1073
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: Zoom Special. You will get notified and then you'll have

1074
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: twenty four hours to get your affairs in order before

1075
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: you need to clear your schedule for tomorrow night. That

1076
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: will be up on the channel Wednesday night. It will

1077
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 2: be in the podcast feed Wednesday at some point, So

1078
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: look forward to that. Look forward to interacting with you

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Speaker 2: guys and seeing some of your beautiful faces. By the way,

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Speaker 2: make sure you follow me on Twitter at Late Kick

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Speaker 2: Josh for all the things that we can't get to

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Speaker 2: on the show, and do me a favor and like

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Speaker 2: the video if you haven't already on your way up

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Speaker 2: for Director Emeritus Colin on the Nashville side of things,

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Speaker 2: Jesse and Company on the Connecticut side of things, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for letting us do what we get

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Speaker 2: to do, believe it or not. For a living here,

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a great start to your week.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: God bless