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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You please.

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Speaker 1: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlersund stop

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Speaker 1: seeing what's up you guys.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: It is Battle from the new one hundred point seven

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Speaker 3: RDU Everything Rock and Alternative. I got my tag team

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Speaker 3: partner Eli here with us. I'm on the show today.

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Speaker 3: We're joined by a former NXT North American Champion. The

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Speaker 3: man has had many nicknames over the past several years

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Speaker 3: in his career, most recently thanks to Paul Hayman, the

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Speaker 3: Tribal Thief give it up for Bronson Reed joined the

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Speaker 3: show man, how are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, oh no.

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Speaker 3: It was out skilling everybody's shoes, everybody looking out your

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Speaker 3: feet real quick, that's why frozees Creed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're back.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I gotta say real quick, thanks for jumping on

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Speaker 3: the show with us today, and I kind of want

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Speaker 3: to jump into it.

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Speaker 2: Paul Hayman, Right, He's given you the nickname.

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Speaker 3: The Tribal Thief and we all know his fingerprints on

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Speaker 3: are some of the biggest careers ever.

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Speaker 2: What's it like working with someone like Paul Hayman?

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Speaker 4: Day today.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, for me, you know, I was a huge wrestling

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Speaker 5: fan and specifically e CW, So it's a bit of

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Speaker 5: a dream come true for me. You know, if I

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Speaker 5: could have asked myself, you know, five years ago, who

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Speaker 5: would you want to be managing you as a pro wrestler,

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Speaker 5: I would pick Paul Hayman. So he is a wealth

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Speaker 5: of knowledge when it comes to this business. So I

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Speaker 5: feel like, if anything, I sort of make sure to

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Speaker 5: pick his brain as much as possible because that just

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Speaker 2: Right yeah, I mean, you know, it's just dripping out

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Speaker 2: Like he just it breathe this business. It's unbelievable, you know.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Paul, heymen, you know you've been aligned with

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Speaker 2: the balance with you kind of being the muscle and enforcer,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do you how are you finding the

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Speaker 2: balance being in a group like that with also your

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Speaker 2: own ambitions You're also your own singles goals, your own

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think at first it sort of almost looked

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Speaker 5: You know, we sort of seemed like we were a

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Speaker 5: I always knew that the Vision as a group, the

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Speaker 5: of months on television you've been able to see that.

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Speaker 5: You've been able to see obviously the stuff I've done

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Speaker 5: to see the best of Braun, the best of Me,

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Speaker 5: the best of Seth, and it makes us even stronger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, for sure. And you mentioned the group, but

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Speaker 3: there was a lot of buzz when this first started.

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Speaker 3: I know there were reports online that you joining the

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Speaker 3: Vision kind of wasn't originally there in the creative plans,

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Speaker 3: was a good decision to throw you into the vision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I was obviously out with a serious injury,

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Speaker 4: And then I really found out. I think it meant

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Speaker 5: Two days before that that was the plans going ahead,

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Speaker 5: But now I was like, oh, it's going to be

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Speaker 5: who I had a great rivalry with the year before.

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Speaker 5: So it sort of was a great fit at first.

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Speaker 5: You know, some people were like, why would Seth and

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Speaker 5: Bronson be teaming together? But that's sort of what you've

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Speaker 3: M Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're just a few weeks pass from clash

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Speaker 2: match with Roman and Jayus, So what did that night

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Speaker 2: reiterate like yeah, I need to be you know, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like especially Roman.

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Speaker 5: You know, Roman for the last decade has been the

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Speaker 5: to be able to match your skills with someone like

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Speaker 5: stepping stone for me. You know the last few years,

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Speaker 5: I've always thought that I should be in this sort

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Speaker 5: know until you get there if you deserve to be

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Speaker 5: in that position. And I think people after Clash in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plus less the crowd was insane.

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Speaker 5: That always helps as well, you know, it always tells

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Speaker 5: when you have a crazy, rabid crowd, and obviously they're

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Speaker 5: always going to be one hundred percent besides, you know,

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Speaker 5: behind Roman and then they're definitely against me. So that

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I just yeah, Now I don't want to

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Speaker 3: I do want to ask this because as as a father,

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, he was telling people that he is

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Speaker 3: going to tsunami.

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Speaker 4: Them one point in time.

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Speaker 3: So I do want to talk about this briefly because

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Speaker 3: the Tribal Thief shirt come out, he wanted one. We

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Speaker 3: of course ordered them, and then it went away.

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Speaker 2: What happened with the shirt?

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Speaker 3: I mean, everybody seemed to enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well it is still there, still available, but it's altered.

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Speaker 4: So is it had the shoes on it?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes you can still you can still buy it,

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Speaker 5: but there was some some copyright infringement stuff there that

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Speaker 5: they had to remove the shoes, which is fair enough,

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Speaker 5: I get it, but I personally was hoping that they'll

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Speaker 5: whole The whole thing was, I was walking around the

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Speaker 3: I seriously hope. So because I ordered it, then I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy to be a bad influence.

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Speaker 5: You know. I've had a lot in the last year

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Speaker 5: when I was a kid, I was doing the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's hitting people with stunners or oh doing that

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Speaker 4: I kid you not.

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Speaker 3: The other day, we were just sitting there floating in

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Speaker 4: Just like, what is going on?

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Speaker 3: So now that you're here, I just want to say

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Speaker 3: future WWE superstars for sure. Now I want to go

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Speaker 3: story is great when it comes to ww because you

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Speaker 3: back with a chip on your shoulder, more confidence. What

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think for me, I've always had hurdles to

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Speaker 5: like I said to go, hey, well if I can

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Speaker 5: do this here, I can definitely do it anywhere else.

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Speaker 5: And I've always wanted that opportunity to be able to

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Speaker 5: do that on a Monday night Roar or SmackDown or

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Speaker 5: the pls.

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Speaker 4: And now you're getting to see it finally. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, of course keeping the tribes where

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Speaker 2: they are, but you know, given Ocada's flowers, just an

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Speaker 2: incredible Let's move to the President Russell Palooza is this

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Speaker 2: Saturday in Indianapolis, airing for the first time on ESPN

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Speaker 2: as well, You and bron Breaker set to face the

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Speaker 4: Like where are your thoughts? Yeah? I think you know,

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Speaker 4: undoubtedly the USO's are one of the greatest.

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Speaker 5: Tag teams of all time. You know, watching them, the

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Speaker 5: You know, me and brun have been on the road

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Speaker 5: as much as they have the brother chemistry, I don't

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Speaker 5: against us because they've never wrestled anyone like us. They've

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Speaker 5: I feel like we're going to be a hard match

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And of course you got to watch out

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Speaker 3: Broun gets going, I mean, it's hard to stop a train.

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Speaker 3: And once you get up there to that top rope. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: good luck there, guys, for sure. Of course, Bronz and

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Speaker 3: Rita is our guest right now on the show. Before

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Speaker 3: we let you go, let's end on a fun one.

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Speaker 3: If you can have anyone in the world.

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Speaker 2: Perform a new entrance from you.

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Speaker 3: Band rapper, whoever?

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Speaker 4: Who would you pick? And why? That's a hard one.

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Speaker 4: You know, I love my music. I listened to a

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Speaker 5: But if I had to choose anyone, maybe I'll give

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Speaker 5: you true bands. Okay, I got to say one, but

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Speaker 5: Rage against the Machine I've always I love them. I

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Speaker 5: think that interest music wise, you could pick any of

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Speaker 5: And then the other one would be one of my

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Speaker 4: Be The Deathtones.

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Speaker 5: So I'd choose one of those two if I could

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Speaker 2: So Triple H make it happen WrestleMania.

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Speaker 3: Next year we'll have Rage against the Machine bring out Bronzon,

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Speaker 4: Yeah that sounds good to me. Yeah, that sounds good

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Speaker 2: Let's do it real quick, Bronze before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything you want to say to the people,

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Speaker 3: the fans out there watching or listening to this right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, I just think that right now, WW is

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Speaker 5: it comes to Netflix, it comes to ESPN, where we're

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Speaker 5: more global than ever. But also you're gonna see talent

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Speaker 5: we're gonna do some wild stuff and make sure to

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Speaker 5: tear it up in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun, for sure.

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Speaker 2: That's anominous that sounds carry yea. Also, real quick before

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Speaker 2: we do, let you go, I have one extra question.

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Speaker 3: How majestic is it seeing that spear in person? Up close?

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Speaker 5: It's so I tell people this all the time, like

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Speaker 5: I'm the one that has to try and control Braun.

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Speaker 5: He has a crazy Steiner temper and I have to

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm a three hundred and twenty pound man,

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Speaker 5: but it's still hard for me. And literally, on Monday night,

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Speaker 5: and I forgot what I was.

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Speaker 4: Doing because I was just watching it. You know, he

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Speaker 4: is insane athlete.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I've seen anyone be as athletically

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Speaker 5: gifted as bron Braiker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, Bronson Reid, it is an honor and a privilege

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Speaker 3: to have you on the show Man, and we look

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Speaker 3: forward to seeing some gold around your waist within the

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Speaker 3: next year, whether it be Tag Team US, Intercontinental.

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Speaker 2: Either one of the championships of all of them.

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Speaker 3: Give all the gold abroncy and give him some golden

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Speaker 3: shoes to wear around his neck while we're at area.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's a good idea. Actually, yeah, aprophy, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and spit up having a tag title. You just

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Speaker 2: have a gold shoes around your neck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's out.