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Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now,

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Speaker 1: and it is, in fact Clay and Buck today for

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Speaker 2: And let's uh came the road for how many days

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Speaker 2: in a row? Now, did you go home from Taiwan?

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Speaker 2: I had two days at home, but I really want

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Speaker 1: I've I've even had some interesting opportunities to travel later

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Speaker 1: this month play, and I'm just I just want to

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Speaker 1: be home. I'm a homebody in general, and I want

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Speaker 1: to be with Kerrie and Speed and Ginger Spice and

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Speaker 1: that's the plan. But yeah, Taiwan twelve hour time difference

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Speaker 1: really takes a while to get back on schedule with that.

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Speaker 1: You you just went from Central time to well actually

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Speaker 3: Of Central time.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I did drive into the Eastern time zone for the

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Speaker 2: Miami Florida State game, which is Tallahassees, just barely in

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Speaker 2: the Eastern time zone. But it was pretty easy recovery, yep.

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Speaker 2: So there you yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Can, you can handle it.

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Speaker 1: After East Coast time You're like, oh, okay, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: That's good news.

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Speaker 1: By the way, people kept asking me about uh, mister

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Speaker 1: mister fine Baum. Yes, and I saw people and they

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Speaker 1: said they were asking me questions about this. You'll have

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Speaker 2: We got Tommy tumperble on at the bottom the hour.

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Speaker 2: We're probably not ask him about it. But yeah, Paul Finebaum,

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it's been a big story and people

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Speaker 1: kept asking me. I'm like, yeah, I celebrate fine Baum's

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Speaker 1: whole career, his whole catalog, full catalog of of football things.

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Speaker 1: So we have some updates here from the cabinet meeting

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Speaker 1: that just happened. So let's let's dive into some of

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Speaker 1: that because that's the latest from Trump. I think this

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Speaker 1: is really interesting, Clay, because I wanted to do a

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Speaker 1: little research on this on my own. Last night, Trump

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Speaker 1: spoke about not only is he taking a taking a

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Speaker 1: bow and yeah, I think if you help negotiate the

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Speaker 1: end of carnage that is taking human lives and maiming people,

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Speaker 1: and you know, war is a terrible thing. It truly

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Speaker 1: is a terrible thing. Sometimes a necessary thing, but it

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Speaker 1: is still a terrible thing. I think taking a bow

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Speaker 1: is fine, and I think that Trump deserves that and

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Speaker 1: then some. But it's not just on on Israel and

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Speaker 1: the end of this conflict with Gaza. This is caught

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Speaker 1: thirty three. He lays out the whole, He gives you

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Speaker 1: the whole number.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 5: You remember we settled seven. This is number eight. We

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Speaker 5: settled seven wars or major conflicts, but wars, and this

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Speaker 5: is number eight. And the one that I thought would

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Speaker 5: and I think that's going to happen too. But in

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Speaker 5: the meantime, they're losing about seven thousand people a week,

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Speaker 5: and that seems pretty bad. They're losing mostly soldiers, young soldiers.

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Speaker 5: They go out to war and they getting killed, and well,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't affect us in a lot of ways. We've

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Speaker 5: see that happen. It was a big miss. That war

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Speaker 5: should never happened. It would have never happened if I

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Speaker 1: Trump doesn't want wars, which is a very good premise

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Speaker 1: to star wars. So Clay can I can I give

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Speaker 1: you the list here and you can. Yeah, the list

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Speaker 1: of conflicts that Trump was involved in bringing to either

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Speaker 1: Trump signed a peace agreement between them on the eighth

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Speaker 3: That was June.

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Speaker 1: Back in June of this year, a ceasefire announced on

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Speaker 1: They fought for five days but people were dying. And

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Speaker 1: the list. That is quite a world tour that he

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Speaker 2: Yes, and again it goes to the point that I had,

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Speaker 2: which is the criticism of Trump that would actually it's

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Speaker 2: He's too focused on world peace and many of these

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Speaker 2: criticism you could levy. It's the exact opposite criticism they

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Speaker 2: day Hitler World War Iree is going to ensue. Let

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Speaker 2: me ask you this Buck. The clip you played I

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Speaker 2: think is interesting because I think Trump thought that he

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I understand the lines of the battle and everything else,

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason that there's not a ceasefire in Russia

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Speaker 2: How much do you think this is cultural in that

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Speaker 3: Giving up the flower of youth is seen as.

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Speaker 2: One of the true bravest moments and most sterling moments

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Speaker 1: Well, this is how Russians fight wars, just with throwing

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Speaker 1: And that's what they're doing in Ukraine as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Then people might already feel that way, and that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Somebody just texted me or email me that once Obama

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Speaker 3: To a reward or an award for what you actually accomplished.

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Speaker 3: Will not end this war. So how do you in

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Speaker 1: When Putin just refuses, well, see this is what I

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Speaker 1: It's pure force. I think the Israelis, I think the

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Speaker 1: but we have to know that they're going to stop.

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Speaker 2: That with this, and we have to get the hostages,

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Speaker 2: which is what the HOSS has refused to release them particulately.

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Speaker 1: And I know that we're very pleased, as of course

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Speaker 2: Which I think Trump gets because Trump's new focus has

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Speaker 2: some of your talkbacks much less serious. Buck, get your pen.

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Speaker 2: Clay at Clay and here is the pick for the

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you. Let's have some fun. We're about to be

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Speaker 2: joined by Tommy Tubberville. But I jumped in this morning

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Speaker 2: the Polish sauage is delicious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. They taste great.

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Speaker 2: Uh that this is Cord BB. He's got a question

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Speaker 5: Messages for Clay Claik Can you apply on how Bucks

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Speaker 1: This Polish sausage last week.

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Speaker 3: Guys are doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, all right, let's just that it's cool. He's throwing

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Speaker 3: Here is dog in Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: He's also got some Polish sausage feedback.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Buck Doug from Louisville, Kentucky. Gotta tell you, I'm

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Speaker 7: interested in the story of your introduction to the Polish

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Speaker 7: sausage from your friend. Feel like there's a story there,

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Speaker 7: you know. I mean, Clay's not afraid to tell us,

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Speaker 2: When did you recognize who was the first person to

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Speaker 2: recognize he's the phrasing on your Polish Our entire, our

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Speaker 1: And and he found out that I had never tried

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Speaker 3: So he's be able to tell the story his parents.

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Speaker 1: This is a real thing. His parents sent a big

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Speaker 3: This was I'm at band camp.

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Speaker 2: So the whole staff, I don't I don't know I

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Speaker 1: Store, they didn't keep a straight face, Clase, So you're

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Speaker 1: not alone there. Neither could I. But now the audience

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Speaker 1: is all, can we celebrate Trump's world peace here? Please?

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Speaker 3: All right, we can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We could some Polish sausages just to have a really

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Speaker 2: By the way, President Trump has said that Columbus Day

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Speaker 3: You remember that sopranos.

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Speaker 1: Columbus was a hero in his house. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: of course I remember that. Something else. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember now, And you look around. You know

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Speaker 2: So you're talking about the Apartment of War to win

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean through it through.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. You know, Clay,

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Speaker 1: I was in DC and it was during the government shutdown,

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Speaker 1: and it was lovely. The streets are empty, the highways

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Speaker 1: So it was really nice. Trump spoke about the shutdown

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Speaker 5: It, and we'll be making cuts that we'll be permanent,

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Speaker 5: so we'll give a little taste of their own medicine.

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Speaker 1: Trump is enjoying the shutdowns so far, Clay. He is

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Speaker 1: do you guys, do we have Senator Tuberville right now?

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Speaker 1: All right, Senator Truberville, We've got a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about. Thanks for joining us here. I'll actually

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Speaker 1: start just with the shutdown. Is the Republican caucus? Is

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Speaker 1: everyone standing strong on this one? Anybody getting the weak,

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Speaker 1: we can't have that stuff. No caving allowed.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've seen a couple of a couple of soft

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Speaker 2: Do you get the sense, because I don't. I've been

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Speaker 3: I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: Story is far more important and attention gathering right now

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Speaker 8: Well, they I hear more about tariffs than I do anything.

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Speaker 4: That's because of the.

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Speaker 8: Farmers, and you know they're struggling, and we've got to

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Speaker 1: Start Tubberville. It's absolutely a day of some celebration from

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Speaker 1: the Trump side of things. Given the ceasefire. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to just get your reaction to what this president seems

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Speaker 1: to have accomplished and the satisfaction that I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: and many of us get from seeing even people who

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Speaker 1: never give Trump anything, never give him the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt, never give him a fair shot. They're even

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Speaker 1: having to say, this is a pretty big deal that

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Speaker 1: he has negotiated between Israel and Hamas.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is huge, and we got to get the

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Speaker 8: hostages out. We got to get out of this mess.

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Speaker 8: Mike Huckabe, the ambassador Marco Rubio went off all these

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Speaker 8: They have been working their tails off trying to get

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Speaker 8: something done there and also in Ukraine and Russia. So

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Speaker 8: hopefully this works out as a twenty point plan. First

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Speaker 8: of all, if we can get the hostages out, I

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Speaker 8: mean President Trump has done his job, because that is

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Speaker 8: our main goal is get these people loose, get them

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Speaker 8: out of these tunnels, these caves, give them some food,

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Speaker 8: get them back to society. This group that we're fighting,

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Speaker 8: this Islamic terrorism that we're fighting within a moss. They

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Speaker 8: are absolutely trying to destroy that part of the country.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, they're coming to a theater near us,

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Speaker 8: and we better watch out.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Tommy Tubervill. He's the next governor

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Speaker 2: of Alabama. I know you're in the midst of your

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Speaker 2: governor's campaign while also being a senator. I'm sure you saw.

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Speaker 2: I did a sit down with Paul Feinbaum, a guy

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Speaker 2: you've known from college football, I imagine for a long

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Speaker 2: time in the state of Alabama. He hasn't officially announced,

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Speaker 2: but what's your reaction to what kind of candidate Paul

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Speaker 2: Feinbaum might be if he ran in the primary to

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Speaker 2: potentially be a senator from Alabama?

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Speaker 3: What do you know about him? What do you think

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Speaker 3: about the idea?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been friends with Paul for thirty years and

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Speaker 8: even when I was an assistant coach. He's made a

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Speaker 8: name for hisself. He's got one hundred percent name he

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Speaker 8: in Alabama. I tell him he's also made ever by

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Speaker 8: mad in Alabama at one time, because but that was

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Speaker 8: his job, you know, making people, you know, a conversation

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Speaker 8: about sports. Now, he's never been in politics, but neither

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Speaker 8: had I. He asked me what I thought. I said, well,

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Speaker 8: you know, if you're going to get into this and

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Speaker 8: I'm not supporting anybody, that's not my job. I've talked

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Speaker 8: to everybody this running from my position, and I said,

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Speaker 8: you know, you've got to get out there and sell yourself,

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Speaker 8: not as a media person, but as somebody's going to

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Speaker 8: represent the people of Alabama in this country. So I

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Speaker 8: heard your interview, I've talked to him. I think he's

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Speaker 8: really really looking into it, and I think that he's

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Speaker 8: about to have it with a lot of things that

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Speaker 8: have gone on in his previous life professionally, and you know,

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Speaker 8: he's an American, but he's got to get out and

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Speaker 8: sell the point and the fact of am I Trump.

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Speaker 8: He's got to be a Trump guy in Alabama. He's

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Speaker 8: got to be conservative, and he's got to show and

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Speaker 8: tell people and convince people that that's what he's going

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Speaker 8: to do.

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Speaker 2: You worked in sports as a head coach for a

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Speaker 2: long time, and by the way, you beat Alabama six

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Speaker 2: years in a row as an Auburn coach and got

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Speaker 2: elected in the state of Alabama. So that in and

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Speaker 2: of itself, and you're not going to be the governor

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Speaker 2: now in a state where Alabama is the majority fan base.

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Speaker 3: Auburn's got a great fan base. Two. Paul's for that

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Speaker 3: fed up.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm you can kind of read it in

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Speaker 2: that conversation with Disney and ESPN siding that they're going

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Speaker 2: to go full left wing. You've been doing sports a

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Speaker 2: long time. Uh, would you ever believe that Disney and

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Speaker 2: ESPN were going to turn ESPN into another arm of MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: Would you ever believe that could be possible in the

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Speaker 2: world of sports.

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Speaker 8: No, never, could have. Never would have believed it or

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Speaker 8: wanted to believe it. And I just can't believe.

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Speaker 4: That that an entity that big, that touches so many people,

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Speaker 4: that has really lived off the American people and true.

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Speaker 8: Patriotism, would go that direction. You know, I worked with

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Speaker 8: Mike Patrick one year, is his color guy, and now

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Speaker 8: well he was the play by play guy in his

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Speaker 8: last year for ESPN and ABC, And Uh, I've never

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Speaker 8: seen such far left groups in my life. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it was just it was just they were that's when

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Speaker 8: Trump first got elected and they it was just a

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Speaker 8: fight from the start to the finish. When you're around

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Speaker 8: a lot of those people that couldn't believe that I

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Speaker 8: was a Trump supporter. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: you've got different factions in our country. The problem that

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Speaker 8: I'm having today is how much does the Democratic Party

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Speaker 8: really love this country? Yes, so they love our constitution.

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Speaker 8: You know, we all have different opinions. But my god, folks,

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Speaker 8: we look what they did. I'm in the elite eight

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Speaker 8: I was. I had my phone's tapped by the FBI

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Speaker 8: under the Department of Justice, a city United States Senator.

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Speaker 8: You've got to be kidding me. So it is, you know,

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Speaker 8: I just don't understand it. I really don't of the

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Speaker 8: mindset of the people that are are trying, and I

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Speaker 8: think it's their way of life. Is they want to

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Speaker 8: change everything that we're doing and go to another type

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Speaker 8: of country that We're not going to allow that to happen.

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Speaker 2: You've known Paul Feinbaum, you said for thirty years. I

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Speaker 2: understand that you are not going to endorse. This is

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Speaker 2: your seat that's going to be up for grabs. Based

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Speaker 2: on your conversations, do you think he's going to run

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Speaker 2: or do you think he's not going to run.

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Speaker 8: I think it's more than he is than he's not.

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Speaker 8: Now again, this is a week or so ago. The

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Speaker 8: last time I talked to him, and I said, Paul,

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Speaker 8: you got to do your due diligence. You got to

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Speaker 8: go out. You's got to start making phone calls. You've

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Speaker 8: got to talk to people. Don't take my word for it.

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Speaker 8: I'm one vote and I got an opinion. But you

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Speaker 8: have to go and talk to people that and try

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Speaker 8: to get two million people to vote for you. And

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of convention you're going to have to do.

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Speaker 8: But I told the same thing to Steve Marshall, the

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Speaker 8: Attorney General, the same thing to Barry Moore, who's in Congress.

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Speaker 8: It's running for this seat. You have got to tell

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Speaker 8: them what you stand for, and people got to believe that.

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Speaker 4: You've got to be convincing. I said.

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Speaker 8: I did that for a year and a half when

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Speaker 8: I was a football coach, and I said, I'm gona

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Speaker 8: run Percentate. I went to every little town, every meeting,

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Speaker 8: every farm meeting, and told him, listen, I'm running, and

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Speaker 8: this is what I believe in. Forget about coaching, just

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Speaker 8: this is what I believe in. And thank goodness, I

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Speaker 8: don't think they elected me as coach. They elected me

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Speaker 8: for my beliefs and my love for the country.

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Speaker 1: Senator Tuberville, always appreciate you making the time for us

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Speaker 1: here on Clan Buck.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 8: All right, guys, thank you, God bless and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Monday.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's Columbus Day.

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Speaker 2: It has been attacked as Indigenous People's Day. We mentioned

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Speaker 2: this earlier on The Sopranos. For those of you who watched,

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Speaker 2: there was an episode where Tony wanted to defend Christopher Columbus.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a little fun, and here's that clip.

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Speaker 1: He discovered America is what he did. He was a

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Speaker 1: brave at Tian explorer and this house.

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Speaker 9: Christopher Columbus is a hero and a story.

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Speaker 2: But Donald Trump agrees Buck. This just happened in the

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Speaker 2: White House, cut thirty six. I believe Trump announcing that

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Speaker 2: Columbus Day is still Columbus Day.

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Speaker 5: In other words, we're calling it Columbus Day.

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Speaker 9: That was the press that broke out in the clause

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Speaker 9: that I've never seen that happened before the press actually

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Speaker 9: broke out in applause, Good Columbus Day, We're back, Columbus Day.

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Speaker 9: We're back Italians, and we loved the Italians.

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Speaker 1: We loved the Italians and the Polish and many others.

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying I would just say, Clay, I

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Speaker 1: guess we're just not concerned anymore with what Columbus's stance

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Speaker 1: on trans writes and climate change was.

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Speaker 3: It's a little little I feel a little.

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Speaker 1: Microaggression here, a little triggered perhaps, where was Columbus on

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Speaker 1: these key issues.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting, isn't it that all of the tear

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Speaker 2: down the statue people have just suddenly vanished. There's almost

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Speaker 2: no discussion.

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Speaker 3: About it at all.

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Speaker 2: I haven't when's the last time you saw someone try

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Speaker 2: to tear down it. It was all pure mass formation,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was mass psychosis.

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Speaker 1: It was the topic from my book coming out in January,

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Speaker 1: manufacturing delusion. That's what it was. So that is you

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Speaker 1: like that? That was cool, like the other side of

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Speaker 1: the pillow. Yeah, that's that's the truth of it, though, Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's just people were caught up in their own rage

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Speaker 1: and nonsense because pulling down the statues and all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that they were saying. Remember, it got to the

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Speaker 1: point where they were pulling down Abraham Lincoln statues. It

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Speaker 1: just didn't even matter anymore. They just wanted to what

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Speaker 1: is Michael Caine saying badman. He's like, some men just

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Speaker 1: won't to see the world burn, you know. He just

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Speaker 1: kind of says that, and they just wanted to see

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Speaker 1: the world burn.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was. I don't even know if I

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Speaker 3: can this joke from a Polish man. I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're Klay Travis. People still say to me,

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Speaker 1: They're like, did he really say this?

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Speaker 3: I think it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be like your keeper, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to keep you from getting outside the bars

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Speaker 1: of the cage and going wild on the visitors.

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Speaker 3: This is this is a polish man.

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Speaker 2: But my father in law, Larry Kornacki, who passed last year,

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Speaker 2: also a polish Man. He would love this joke, so

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell it in his honor. As a polish man,

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Speaker 2: I can tell this joke. This is not me. This

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Speaker 2: is the Polish man Michael, whose last name I can't

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Speaker 2: even pronounce. What does a polish man This is a

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Speaker 2: little this is a double entendre buck, but it's a

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Speaker 2: little anyway. What does a polish man give his wife

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Speaker 2: on their wedding night? That is long and hard his

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Speaker 2: last name? That's pretty good that's pretty good, very much

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Speaker 2: border line, but I think good. So if you're upset,

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Speaker 2: that is uh, Michael g whose last name I cannot read,

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Speaker 2: and you can steal that one, and you can.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be reading I'm gonna be reading emails all

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Speaker 1: weekend from our listener ethel who is going to be

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Speaker 1: telling me that you need a timeout, sir, that you

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Speaker 1: have you have to be put in the corner, sir.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think that was within the bounds.

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Speaker 3: I think that was within the bounds.

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Speaker 2: But I did pause for a minute, which maybe means

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Speaker 2: it's not within bounds. We also have this you were

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Speaker 2: talking about the impact. I mean, I do think this

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Speaker 2: ties in with the statue thing we have CNN. This

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Speaker 2: is Michael Inton basically pointing out something that I do

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Speaker 2: think it's worth re addressing on a rate. Is this

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Speaker 2: the ex conversation the top of the next how let's.

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Speaker 1: Say it is for the top of it, because we've

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Speaker 1: only got about a minute here, so we can tee

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Speaker 1: this up a bit. The the change in the media

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Speaker 1: ecosystem is so powerful right now, Uh that what had

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Speaker 1: happened was the Democrats play the left were able to

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Speaker 1: make and they were able to enforce arguments on the

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Speaker 1: public that they could not subject to scrutiny, but they

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Speaker 1: just had the raw power to through straight really information warfare,

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Speaker 1: flood the zone and convince enough people that this is

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Speaker 1: what it has to be, and that now has been shattered.

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Speaker 1: It's not gone, but it is a fraction of what

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Speaker 1: it used to be. And I think that this ties

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Speaker 1: into X. This ties into the change in the change

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Speaker 1: in the culture that we see now. And I also

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Speaker 1: think that people are increasingly in positions where they realize

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Speaker 1: we need to have our own platforms and have our

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Speaker 1: own stuff too, So that's all to the good.

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Speaker 2: I also think it is showing us how astro turf

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Speaker 2: much of the arguments on the left really were in

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Speaker 2: terms of whether they reflected the reality of opinion or

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Speaker 2: normal people. I think that X under Elon is much

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Speaker 2: more of a reflection of honest public opinion as opposed

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Speaker 2: to a Silicon Valley San Francisco era view of the world.

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Speaker 2: But we'll give you some data on that when we

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Speaker 2: come back. In the meantime, Buck is going to be

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Speaker 2: sampling Polish sausages during the commercial break, and we will

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Speaker 2: have a lot more fun for all of you in

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Speaker 2: the third hour of the program, including I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much you talked about this yesterday, Buck, because I

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Speaker 2: can't remember exactly what time this came out. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: climate changed. It was a crazy left wing arsonist that

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Speaker 2: tried to burn down la Oh.

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Speaker 3: By the way,