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That's 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown YouTube TV. Try it free and then save 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: ten dollars per month for your first three months terms 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: apply cancel anytime. What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: new episode of Chargers Weekly powered by YouTube Tv alongside 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Matt Money Smith Chris Hary here with you and Money. 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: It's draft season. We're gonna talk to Ris Trapasso CBS 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Sports get a little insight on the Senior Bowl who 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: he has mocked the Chargers in a very early early 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: mock draft. Um. But we got some breaking news this morning. 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers a new special teams coordinator. Ryan Ficken from 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings spent fifteen seasons with the bikes and now 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: he's going to be a Charger. Yeah, you know, I 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: wish I could could say I knew something about about 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Coach Ficken. I'm sure you know, Brandon Staley and Tom 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Talsco and everybody did their due diligence when when trying 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: to put this thing together, and he was the guy 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: they landed on. I'm happy to have someone. I'm sure 28 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: they went through a pretty exhaustive process. I think, you know, 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: Coach Tabor was someone that they had kind of connected 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: with with Coach Staley because of his time in Chicago, 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: and I know they were trying to make a connection 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: there with a with a coach in Denver who was 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: out of a job because you know, both Vic Fangio 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: and Matt Nagie got fired, so those guys were available. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: But um, you know, Ficken's the guy, and certainly Chris. 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: It's something we've been talking about for a long time, 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: and you know just how important special teams are and 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: how not good the Chargers have been at it for 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: for quite a while. Um. Now, they did pick up 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: certainly in the second half of the season, with Dustin 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Hopkins and and uh Andre Roberts being added to the roster. Um. 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: But it'll be interesting because look, I think when you 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: think about kickers and punters uh and returners just specifically 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: because of the age of Roberts, I'm sure they're gonna 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: ask Ficking to do a deep dive into the team 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: and figure out, you know, are we keeping our specialists, 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: are we redoing all of our specialists? You know, what's 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: what's the operation in terms of those three players I 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: think specifically punter, kicker, long snapper uh. And then on 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: top of that, you know, do we need to find 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: a returner either on our roster or in the draft? Um. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: You know. The other stuff I think is more on 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: Tom Palsco you know, and he talked about that last 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: year that you know, when you when you let Nick 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Dzubner go and Derek Watt go and you have all 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: these standout special teamers that our vats and they leave 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: your team, yeah, you're probably gonna put your your coaching 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: staff on a compromise position. And no doubt that happened 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: with coach Stewart. And then I think for the first 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: half of this season trying to get those young guys 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: up to speed with coach Swinton. Yeah, and you mentioned 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: it defected. Andre Roberts and Dustin Hopkins really solidified those 63 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: roles towards the back half of the year. It will 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: certainly be interesting to see if those guys retain those positions. 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe maybe there's some guys that that 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: coach Staley and coach Ficken have have coached in the 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: past that they think may make sense. And I'll tell 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you this, I think the rookies who were kind of 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: thrust into action this year, you get a year under 70 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: your belt, so you know, maybe we see some improvement 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: just on the fact that we have some more seasoned 72 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: guys that have done this job. You know, I look 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: at Nick Neiman, who made the All Rookie team as 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a special team or is just one example of that. Yeah, 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look, and that's we're you know, we're going 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: to talk about the draft, right and that's one of 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: the most important things that those later round and undrafted 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: free agents players are going to have to be able 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: to do, because it's just the way you have to 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: round out your roster. You don't want to put your 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: best players in compromising positions on special teams, considering what 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: the collisions look like and kind of what some of 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: those plays are, so it's really up to the back 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: end of your roster to give you either an exceptional 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that is coaching, you know, a lot 86 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: of it's coaching, either an exceptional special teams learnard, a 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: league average special teams unit, or a unit that just 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: drastically needs to figure it out and find some improvement. 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Coaching news. We talked about Nathaniel Hackey last week. How 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: about Josh McDaniels joining the AFC West. Your initial reaction 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to that, it's it's one of those things we see McDaniels, 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: his name always pops up, and you know he had 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the Colts job for a second before he didn't, and 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: he's making the splash in Vegas. Look, I nothing against 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Rich Pisacha. I mean, you cannot give him enough credit 96 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: for piloting that team after what they went through with 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, with John Gruden, with what I thought was 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: the maybe if you go top to bottom, the fourth 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: best roster in the AFC West, so to be able 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: to get them into the playoffs and you know, have 101 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: a shot to knock off the team that's representing the 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: AFC in the Super Bowl, you know, or at least 103 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: tie it up and maybe go for or go for 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: two and get to win, you know, on the very 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: final play of the game. Well he deserves a ton 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: of credit and so does Mike Mayock. But you know, 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: with them being out, um, I don't think there's any question. 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: You ask around the league when it comes to, you know, 109 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: the bright minds that are coaching offense, what Josh McDaniels 110 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is able to do, and you just think about you know, 111 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: look Tom tim Tebow. You know, even though it perhaps 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: cost him his job in Denver, Tebo got him a 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: playoff win over the Steelers, I mean in their prime. 114 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, he was able to make it work with 115 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Matt Castle, he was able to make it work with 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, and obviously all those years with Tom Brady. 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: So uh, not to take a shot at Bisacha or 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: John Gruden for that matter, but I think it's an upgrade. 119 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: I think it. You know, if if Josh Josh's issues 120 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: weren't you know, coach McDaniel's issues weren't you know, play 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: calling or inability to understand offense, you know, or feel 122 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: the team that was going to be competitive was personality driven. 123 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: And you know, he talked about that and how much 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: he learned from his failures in Denver. And I would 125 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: assume also just kind of the way he handled that 126 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: Indianapolis situation and what a mess that was that did 127 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: he learned from that? And look, he's I think the 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: other thing to remember, Chris is that he had his pick. 129 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, there were a lot of teams that have 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: been interested in Josh McDaniels these last five, you know, 131 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: probably three to five years. They're very selective. Yeah, so 132 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: for him to pick this one, I do think, you know, 133 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: maybe makes you feel like, Okay, Raiders. Raiders are probably 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more of a handful 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: than they were the last couple of years. And of 136 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: course the Super Bowl, we'd be remiss if we didn't 137 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: mention the fact that the Bengals in the Rams are 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: playing at SOFI Stadium. Yeah, we can change. And you 139 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: know the fact that the Bengals were able to roll 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: into Arrowhead and it was a tale of two halves 141 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: to get that win and go to the Super Bowl 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: money and this is just fact. I mean, if you 143 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: take us back to the beginning of December and it's 144 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: twenty four nothing and Cincinnattie and I come into the 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: booth and I said, money, one of these two teams 146 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: is going to be in the super Bowl. Yeah, in February. 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just amazing how how close the Chargers are. 148 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: And I guess I get it. At forty one twenty 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: two in the regular season. It's a whole different animal 150 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: than winning in the postseason and getting to the super Bowl. 151 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: But it does show you, I think, how close the 152 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Chargers are to hopefully getting into the tournament and contending. Well. 153 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I think it kind of goes back to the conversations 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: we were having towards the end of the year, or 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, after the loss of the Raiders that they 156 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: weren't in the tournament. Is that this year, you know, 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: more than any other that I can remember since I've 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: been doing this, was wide open. It just felt wide open. 159 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: It did not feel like the Chiefs, even though they 160 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: had come on as of late, it did not feel 161 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: like they were the juggernaut that they had been the 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: previous couple years. The Patriots were no longer the Tom Brady, 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick Patriots. You know that the Baltimore Ravens, for 164 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: all of their regular season success, we've just seen too 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: much failure from them. In the postseason with Lamar Jackson. 166 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: You know, it just it felt like, of all these 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: teams that were going to make it into the postseason, 168 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: you can make a case for any one of them, 169 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: and I think that's why it hurt when they didn't 170 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: get in. And it still stings a little bit when 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: you think about the way the end of the season. 172 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you've got Houston, Denver at home, and 173 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: at Las Vegas on your schedule and you can't win 174 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: two of those three to punch your ticket and maybe 175 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: be to Cincinnati Bengals instead of you know, going home. 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: But you know, just imagine being the Buffalo Bills, you know, 177 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: and kind of how you feel if you're the Bills 178 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: after thrashing the Patriots, after going up with thirteen seconds 179 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: left to the Chiefs and losing that Like there, I 180 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: think there's so many teams that are kicking themselves because 181 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: of how it played out this year. I mean, think 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: about the Hackers. You know, you don't even want a 183 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: playoff game, and you've got the road to the Super Bowl, 184 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, coming through your house at lambeau Field in January. 185 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: So there's only one team that's happy at the end 186 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: of it. All and I don't think there's any question. 187 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: If the Bengals lose, they're going to feel like, man, 188 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: what an opportunity we missed. Who knows if we're ever 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: going to have a path like that again. And if 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: the Rams lose at home, an opportunity to really try 191 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: to make some inroads in this market, they're going to 192 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: feel like, Yeah, it wasn't just good enough to get there. 193 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: There's far too much at stake, you know, with this one, Lombardi, 194 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: because of how this season played out. Josh Allen tweeted 195 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: pain during the overtime of Bengals Chiefs and you're right, 196 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: every team is going to have some degree of pain. 197 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: The Chargers came in a week eighteen, the Bills came 198 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: a couple weeks later. Only one team's happy, and we'll 199 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: see if it's gonna be the Rams of the Bengals. 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: And then you start all over, and we're going to 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: talk to Chris Trapasso about the draft evaluation process, some 202 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: of the rookies the Chargers had last year, making that 203 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: next step here on Chargers Weekly. All right, money, let's 204 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: bring in Chris Jrpasso, CBS Sports does a great job 205 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: covering the draft and Chris, obviously it's Senior Bowl week. 206 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: It's one of the major weeks on the calendar as 207 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: it comes to the draft evaluation process. So what are 208 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: you hearing out of Mobile this week? Well, it's a 209 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: really deep defensive line class, especially on the edge, that 210 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: could potentially be a position that the Chargers would look 211 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: for to pair with Joey Bosa even in the second 212 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: or third rounds. Guys like Jermaine Johnson from Florida State, 213 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Sam Williams from Ole Miss on the interior not as deep. 214 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Both of the interior lineman from Georgia, Jordan Davis and 215 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: DeVante Wyatt who's down there Inmobile, are kind of the 216 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: cream of the crop. But by day two or even 217 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: early day three, you can still get an impact defensive ended. 218 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: They're making the most waves in those one on one 219 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: drills and Mobile. Chris, I think you look at you know, 220 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: just needs and we know Tom Talsco has said and 221 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: he's actually got a track record for it. They are 222 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: a best player available team when it comes to drafting, 223 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: But when you think about their needs, right tackle, interior lineman, 224 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: corner seemed to be the top three to me. You 225 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: already talked about the interior tackle. What about corners and 226 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: old lineman in terms of depth there when it comes 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: to that number seventeen overall pick and maybe how that 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: shakes out of where the value might be. Yeah. After 229 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley, who's probably going to be the first cornerback 230 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: off the board, probably sometime in the top ten, there's 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: about three or four candidates who could be available and 232 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: that feel right at number seventeen overall. Kyer Elam from 233 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: Florida is a big, long, physical man demand cornerback. I 234 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: think he would be a great or would formulate a 235 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: great tandem with the Sante Samuel Junior, who's a little 236 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: bit smaller and quicker. There's Trent McDuffie from Washington, Roger 237 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: McCreery who had a long, illustrious career at Auburn. So 238 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: there's like three or four players that I think will 239 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: sneak into the back half of round one. And for 240 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: a team that needs a cornerback that certainly has all 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: the weapons and the quarterback on the offensive side, I 242 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't hate if the Chargers went corner or someone 243 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: up front at number seventeen overall. Chris. The Chargers right 244 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: now have eleven picks, and when you look at the 245 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, some guys emerge and maybe they were third 246 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: fourth round picks, they become early second round picks. Are 247 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: there a few guys that you're hearing down there that 248 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: have really helped themselves over these first couple of days 249 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah. One name that could be of interest 250 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: to the Chargers with Justin Jones hitting free agency is 251 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Davis a really big or Tyler Jones, I'm sorry 252 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: from Yukon. He's this big three hundred and thirty five 253 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: pound nose tackle, but he can actually push the pocket. 254 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: He's super strong. He's someone that is playing somewhat of 255 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: a devalue position. But if you can be someone that 256 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: can just use your strength to reset the line of 257 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: scrimmage in the run game and as a pass rusher, 258 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: I think that's huge. And one other player, he's pretty raw, 259 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: but he plays the cornerback position and if the Chargers 260 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: don't go in that direction in round one, second or 261 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: third round, he might be available. Tariq Wolen from Utsa 262 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: the Roadrunners, six foot three, almost sixty four, two hundred 263 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and five pounds, super explosive. You see it on film 264 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: when he was at UTSA and during these first couple 265 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: of practices in mobile he showcased that his length and 266 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: his speed, even though he's not the quickest cornerback in 267 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: this draft, can be a asset to him. So he's 268 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: someone that we all wanted to see how he would 269 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: perform against a lot of prospects from the Power five Conference, 270 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and at his size and his length, he could add 271 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: another dimension to this charger secondary. Christie I mentioned the 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: old line and look, they hit a home run. I mean, hey, 273 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't know Grand Slam, but with Rashawn Slater, I 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: mean it is one of the most impressive rookie campaigns 275 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: we've ever seen for a tackle. But at the same time, 276 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you've got kind of you know what 277 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: they were, but they were faced with in Storm Norton 278 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: on the other side, and you know, credit to Storm 279 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: for stepping in when Bilaga could go a full game 280 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: to start the season. Probably something that needs to be 281 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: addressed in terms of value and kind of what you've 282 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: seen for that tackle position and maybe more of a 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: right tackle. It feels like guys are so interchangeable. Now 284 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, you can kick him inside. Oh, that left 285 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: tackle can play right he's a better right than a left. 286 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: What do you see there like in that seventeen range 287 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: or do you feel like there's more value in the 288 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: second and third round for that position. I think because 289 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: it's such a valuable spot, especially when you have Justin 290 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Herbert in place and that was such a weakness. You 291 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: have to think about it at number seventeen overall, and 292 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: there are a few candidates I think. Obviously some of 293 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: the bigger names will already be gone by then. But 294 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: someone at the Senior Bowl that Chargers fans can watch 295 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday, Bernard Raymond from Central Michigan. This is a 296 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: former tackle who kicked out to the offensive line position 297 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and has grown and just as a player, and he's 298 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: just added a lot of weight to his frame. The athleticism, 299 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: the balance is there, kind of following a similar track 300 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: to former first We're All pick Eric Fisher, who was 301 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: a tackle at Central Michigan then kicked down to the 302 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: right tackle position and has had a very good career 303 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Bernard Raymond and another small school player, 304 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Penning from Northern Iowa. He measured in at six 305 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: foot six and three hundred and thirty pounds, so he's 306 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: ready to go. He's ready to play right tackle today. 307 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: In terms of his size, he does not have a 308 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: problem dealing with power, and he's been good over these 309 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: first couple of practices at Mobile. So I think at 310 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: seventeen you could think about corner, you could think about 311 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: other positions, but with the top priority being protecting Justin 312 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Herbert and not allowing the offensive line to be held 313 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: back in the offense in general by a week spot 314 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: by one week spot up front, you have to think 315 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: long and hired about picking one of these offensive tackles 316 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: potentially at number seventeen overall. Chris, I always loved to 317 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of rewind to a year ago, and you know, 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about all these prospects, the fact that Rashawn 319 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: Slater had not played this season before, and there was 320 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: him versus Soul, and Rashawn goes at number thirteen overall 321 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: at this point last year, what were your thoughts on Rashawn? 322 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: And obviously I think he exceeded everybody's expectations. But how 323 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: surprised were you that he came in plug and play 324 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: immediately against Chase Young in Week one and never looked back. 325 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I was a little bit surprised. He was my number 326 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: two offensive tackle in last year's draft class. And I 327 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: love Penney Suel, but I thought Rashawn Slater was pretty 328 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: close behind him, and he played actually for the full 329 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: sixteen game Stratch better than Penney Suel. Penney Suel came 330 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: on strong later in the season, but Rashawn Slater, you know, 331 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: to start the season against Chase Young and then faced 332 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons the next week, have tough matchups against Max Crosby, 333 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: all in the first month of his season and pass 334 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: those tests with flying colors was a testament, I think 335 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: to the work that he did after opting out, and 336 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of those opt out players, Rashaan Slater, 337 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Jamar Chase really able to hit the ground 338 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: running in their rookie seasons. I thought Slater was going 339 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: to have some problems dealing with the bigger, more powerful 340 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: blockers because he's not absolutely mammoth at left tackle, but 341 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: his technique and his balance and his quickness I think 342 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: really allowed him to be right away a top ten 343 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: offensive tackle in the NFL. Chris, they kind of patched 344 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 1: it together after letting Hunter Henry go at tight end. 345 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: They bring in Jared Cook on a one year deal. 346 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: Steven Anderson has been fantastic with everything they've asked him 347 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: to do as kind of that hybrid player, and obviously 348 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: with the injury to Donald Parham later in the season, 349 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: some you know, you kind of wonder how that's going 350 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: to work moving forward. What about the tight end group, 351 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: it feels like, i mean, look look at the Super Bowl, 352 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: right Uzama and Higbee and you look at the final 353 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: four and Kelsey's out there just seems like such an 354 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: important position. What about the draft and this year and 355 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: whether you might be able to find someone at that 356 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: position in that second, third, fourth round range. Yeah, this 357 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: is the deepest tight end class that we've had in 358 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: probably five years. There's no Kyle Pitts, there's no TJ. 359 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Hockinson that are going to go inside the top ten. 360 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: But in terms of like you mentioned money, like second third, 361 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: fourth round, that's where we're going to see probably seven 362 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: or eight tight ends go off the board. Who can 363 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: stand in and be contributors as rookies. Trey McBride from 364 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Colorado State, who's down inmobile head over a thousand yards 365 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: receiving for the ramsas Beast season, great Yeah, great after 366 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: the catch. Not an insane athlete or elite separator, but 367 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: after the catch he really makes you know, a lot 368 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: of defenses pay. There's Jeremy Ruckert from Ohio State who 369 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: was kind of a low volume receiver because of all 370 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: the talent that the Buck guys had, but he's a 371 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: three down player. Isaiah Likely is a name that I 372 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: think the Chargers and their fans should really be zeroing 373 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: in on in that from Coastal Carolina. A smaller school player. 374 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: He's more of that hback, movable type. And in terms 375 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: of smooth athleticism, he can separate underneath. You can throw 376 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: him a wing pass into the flat and he can 377 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: make a cornerback mess and then run through another tackle 378 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: and turn that into an eight or a nine yard game. 379 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of Steven Anderson. So if 380 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: the Chargers do want to address that position, there's other 381 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: names Jalen Widermeyer, Charlie Kolar from Iowa State who's a bigger, 382 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: like red zone threat. I think they will target that 383 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: position probably day through Day two or early day three, 384 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: and this is the class to do it. What about linebacker, 385 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: and you know we talk about Kaiser White, who you know, 386 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: had one hundred and forty seven tackles this year. He's 387 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: an understricted free agent. Kenneth Murray had an up and 388 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: down year, he was injured for some of it. And 389 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: you know Drew Trank Will obviously has made his mark 390 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: on this team, but not knowing how free agency's gonna 391 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: shake out here in La Chris. What about the linebacker position, 392 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: whether it's senior bowler or guys that you see is 393 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: first round talent. Well, what I would say first is 394 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: that I think Tom Tolesco, who has done a great 395 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: job addressing the sty aile of the linebacker position, that 396 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: he's looked for supreme athletes. He hasn't really cared the 397 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: size of the players. Kaiser White was a safety. D 398 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Tranquil played safety in college. That's what you need to 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: have in your linebacker room today. So I think this class, 400 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: after Nakobe Dean and Devin Lloyd, who will probably be 401 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: the first two linebackers off the board almost assuredly in 402 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: round one, there's two names that really stand out to 403 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: me that kind of fit the profile of what the 404 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Chargers like. Coverage ability range from sideline to sideline. Brian 405 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: As Samoa from Oklahoma who's down here Inmobile. He's very, 406 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: very athletic. I think to be able to pair him 407 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: with a former teammate in Kenneth Murray would be an 408 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: added bonus. And Chad Muma from Wyoming, he was all 409 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: over the field for the Cowboys. May not be a 410 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: freaky athlete, but kind of reminds me of Drew Tranquil 411 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: and that he makes the most of it of his 412 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: athleticism because he's so good in coverage, very productive not 413 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: only as a tackler, but getting his hands on the football, 414 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: reeling in interceptions and are all going to probably be 415 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: available Day two or Day three of the draft. Now 416 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: you've got a lot to work on, Chris, when it 417 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: comes to prepping for the draft. A million names, positions, 418 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: pairing these guys up with teams, so pronunciations. Yes, I 419 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: don't know how hard it is for you to pay 420 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: attention to specialists. But because we're seeing Money Mack doing 421 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: what he's doing for Cincinnati as a rookie, and I 422 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: just think about Michael Dixon up in Seattle and just 423 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: how important and I mean how much games have shifted 424 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: on special teams in the playoffs. Is there a legit, 425 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: this kicker is gonna get drafted, or this punter is 426 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: going to get drafted, because it feels like every year 427 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: we do get one or two of them. Yeah, there 428 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a pun or drafted, and he 429 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: could go as high as the third round. Matt Ariza 430 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: from San Diego State kind of in your backyard watching 431 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: the film of him, And I'll admit I'm not someone 432 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: that spends hours upon hours watching punting film during the 433 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: pre draft process, but I had a scout tax to 434 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: me early in this season and said, you have to 435 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: watch San Diego State. Not because of Cameron Thomas. You 436 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: can watch him on defense, but watch the punter and 437 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: to be able to routinely have seventy eighty yard punts. 438 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I think he could even kick the ball too, with 439 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: that strong of a leg. He really is a weapon 440 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: that if we're all about field position and you try 441 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: to pin a team back and decrease and offense's chances 442 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: to score a touchdown if they're starting, you know, at 443 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: the fifteen or the ten yard line as opposed to 444 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: the thirty or the forty. Matt Ariza is that guy 445 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: that will be seeing a lot of those features during 446 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: the draft process about this being the highest drafted punter 447 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: in a long time. Interesting, Hey, I want to go 448 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: back to a couple of guys from the draft last 449 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: year that the Chargers picked up, Joshua Palmer and Asante 450 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Samuel Jr. And obviously the Chargers have a big decision 451 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: to make with Mike Williams. Palmer came on and we've 452 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: been impressed with him since I think he came into 453 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: the building. Asante had had a couple concussions this year, 454 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: so he was out for a good portion of the year, 455 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: but showed flashes. What did you see from those guys 456 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: and did they kind of live up to your comps? Yeah? 457 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: First off, I mean, I'm the perfect guy to have 458 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: on because I had a Sante Samuel with a first 459 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: round grade last year, and when he was available in 460 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: round two and the Chargers picked him, I thought there 461 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: was a tremendous selection for him. To play under four 462 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: hundred snaps and have a liven pass breakups and two interceptions. 463 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: That just speaks to the type of playmaker that he 464 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: can be in the NFL and truly the type of 465 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: player he was at Florida State. If a Sante Samuel 466 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: was probably an inch and a half taller, he would 467 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: have been locked inside the top twenty. But his film, 468 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: how twitchy he is, his ball skills, his deceptive speed, 469 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I think projects him to be a true number one 470 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: quarter and I think people get a little concerned about 471 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: his size. But in today's NFL, a lot of the 472 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: really good wide receivers are not six foot four or 473 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: six foot five. They're smaller. They can get open and 474 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to be able to have a corner that can. Their 475 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: quickness and their suddenness off the line is vital, and 476 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: I think for someone that didn't get a full season, 477 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: the little that we did see of Vasante Samuel Junior 478 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: was fantastic and really what I expected, and really back 479 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl, Josh Palmer stood out last year 480 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: Inmobile and at Tennessee. He was that underneath intermediate and 481 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: down the field target for the volunteers. A quarterback play 482 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: wasn't very good. I think that's what kind of led 483 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: to him sinking to the third round. But to only 484 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: have one drop as a rookie on forty nine and 485 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: targets speaks volumes to the concentration that he has. I 486 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: thought he separated occasionally hit the big play very well. 487 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: And certainly you would like to retain Mike Williams because 488 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: when healthy, he's been a great number two to Keenan Allen. 489 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: But I think the Chargers new, you know, entering the 490 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one draft, Hey, we have Mike Williams coming 491 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: up after the season. Let's get Josh Palmer in the building, 492 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: have him in a number three role and see if 493 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: he'll be ready to overtake Mike Williams if necessary for 494 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: that number two spot. And because Josh Palmer has such 495 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: a complete game, there's not a clear cut flaw to 496 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: what he can do on the field. I think he 497 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: can be a number two in this offense. The one 498 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: other thing, Chris obviously, is they've been searching for a 499 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: number two back and it's been years, really, and they 500 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: drafted Larry Roundtree late. Didn't seem like, you know, he 501 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: was up for it last year, two years ago, as 502 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Josh Kelly look great at times, and then you know, 503 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: just some fumble issues crept in and if Justin Jackson 504 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: was healthy, he was fantastic. He just could not stay 505 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: on the football field. So what do you see in 506 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: this group? I got a chance to see a couple 507 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: calling the NFLPA Bowl. You know, I like Greg bull 508 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Bell looked good. BJ Baylor had nice soft hands as 509 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: a as a you know, and also had some fun 510 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: between the tackles and malapay I even look good. Like 511 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: That's the thing about backs is when you watch him, 512 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: they all look pretty good. It's kind of hard to decipher, 513 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, which guy am I going to get 514 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: in this fifth, six or seventh round that I feel 515 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: I can be? You know that secondary back to Austin Eckler. 516 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: What are you seeing out there? It's a pretty good 517 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: running back clay Us again, I mean there's the marquee 518 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: names Breece Hall, Isaiah Spiller, and Kenneth Walker. They'll probably 519 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: be the first three backs off the board. But with 520 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: Austin Eckler entrenched in that number one role, I don't 521 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: think the Chargers would obviously address running back that early. 522 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: What it seems as though to have Justin Herbert and 523 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the specialist receiving the football that Austin Eckler is I 524 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: think the Charger's value, like you mentioned, having soft hands 525 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and being a weapon in the screen game, maybe even 526 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: being able to split out wide and run some routes 527 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: from the slot like Austin Ekeler does. To have that, 528 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: To have Austin Eckler come off the field and you 529 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: can still insert someone in the same role would be 530 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: huge for this offense. Two players really stick out to 531 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: me to kind of fit that mold. It will probably 532 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: be available fourth fifth round Rashad White from Arizona State. 533 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: Very slippery player, just naturally elusive, and the contact balance 534 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: is very good. He actually reminds me a lot of 535 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: his former teammate Eno Benjamin, who went late in the 536 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: draft last year. I think he's in for a big 537 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: second season there with the Cardinals and James Cook, the 538 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: brother of Dalvin Cook, who if you look at his 539 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: screenshot on the Georgia website, looks identical to his brother, 540 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Like you could have those two be interchanged and you 541 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't even realize it. He was kind of used in 542 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: that Deebo Samuel wide back role in college for the 543 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: Bulldogs that they literally put him out wide on occasion, 544 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: had him run double moves in the College Football Playoff 545 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: against Michigan. Very subtly elusive, not crazy athleticism to the 546 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: level of his brother, but the speed and just the 547 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: natural running ability are there? So I think later in 548 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the draft, fourth or fifth round, if they really are 549 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: going best player available, one of those those two backs 550 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. Just real quick, Chris, 551 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: what about thumpers, like because I'd love to see a 552 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: big back on this team. You know, it just seems 553 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: like whenever they had those third and ones and third 554 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: and twos that just for whatever reason, it was tough 555 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: for Kelly or Roundtree to get those yards. Is there 556 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: is there a good looking big back that might be 557 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: available in one of those mid to late rounds. Yeah, 558 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: there's a couple. I tweeted it during this season. Brian 559 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Robinson from Alabama, who pretty much his entire career was 560 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: playing behind Naji Harris, other NFL caliber backs there with 561 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the Crimson Tide six foot one, two hundred and thirty 562 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: plus pounds, and you watch him on film. He looks big, 563 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: but he doesn't run like he's a plotter, like he's stiff. 564 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: But constantly linebackers, safeties are just glancing off of him. 565 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: He's very powerful staying in the SEC. Damian Pierce from 566 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: Florida great in pass protection. There is a viral video 567 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: going around from Senior Bowl practice where he stood up 568 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: a linebacker in a one on one pass blocking drill, 569 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: very very stout through contact. And if that's what they want, 570 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: they could certainly get that. The last name that I'll 571 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: mention Jerome Ford from Cincinnati. He actually started his career 572 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: at Alabama, transferred to the Bearcats and is big. He's 573 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: a bowlder over back. He's under six foot right around 574 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds, but has speed. He was 575 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: a big recruit because of how fast he is. So 576 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: if the Chargers drafted him, get a few well blocked 577 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: plays in the run game, he can turn you know, 578 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: what should be a five or a ten yard gain 579 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: into a forty or fifty yard game down the field. Chris, 580 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: the way this draft class shakes out, do you see 581 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: a running back going in the first round or do 582 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: you see that starting in the second third round? And 583 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: I asked that because you know we've talked about Tom 584 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: Talesco taking best available player. I would not be opposed 585 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: to them getting a stud running back because I don't 586 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: consider Austin Ekeler a running back. I mean, I consider 587 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: him just this offensive weapon that you can keep on 588 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: the field with a premier back, And I feel like 589 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: that that could really work. Wonders for this offense. Probably 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: we won't see one until the second round. But to 591 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: your point, and with Tom Tellesco's philosophy, if it is 592 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: a back in the first round, it will be one 593 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: of the first three names that I mentioned. Breecee Hall 594 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: from Iowa State. Three years of elite production. He looks 595 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: like an NFL feature back, does everything you want from 596 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: the position. Kenneth Walker, who broke out from Michigan State 597 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: this past season, was kind of in the Heisman race 598 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: there for a while. And then Isaiah Spiller from Texas 599 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: A and M. He's a little younger, but he truly 600 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: in terms of contact balance, it's almost impossible to bring 601 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: him down on first contact. And I think you're right 602 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: to your point. If Austin Eckler was more of a 603 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: slot receiver, I think fantasy owners would be a lot happier. 604 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: Austin Eckler likes to point to that a lot, and 605 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: to use his quickness and explosion in the slot would 606 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: maybe allow him as he gets up there in age 607 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: deeper into his career that he's not taking as much 608 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: of a beating and you could let someone like a 609 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: Breeze Hall or an Isaiah Spiller ultimately be that featureback 610 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: that's handling you know, ten to fifteen to maybe twenty 611 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: carries money money. What do you think about that? I mean, 612 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: I just I feel like if there was I'm not 613 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: with you, brother, you know all right, I'm not with you. 614 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: I just I feel like, you know where I've got. 615 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: I've been preaching about it for four weeks now. I 616 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: want a big corner. That's I think that is their 617 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: number one. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I'm not 618 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: saying drafts are running back in the first round. Okay, 619 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: that's what I thought. You were speaking to a seventeen. 620 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Can you get one of these premier running backs in 621 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: the second round, because like if it's if it thinks so, yeah, 622 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm asking because I agree they're not 623 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: gonna draft a running back in the first round. Yeah, 624 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: but if one of these top three backs are available 625 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: in the second round, do you maybe pull the pull 626 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: the trigger on one of them because I think it 627 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: could change the offense. Yeah, that's what we said. You know, 628 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: that's just the way Thomas drafted. It's always been vertical 629 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: versus horizontal. Is kind of the way the Chargers make 630 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: their picks. So it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, if there's value, 631 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: you know what? Just on that note, uh, Chris, you 632 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: know there's there's that group of elite players, you know, 633 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, here's they got a big five 634 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: and then after that there's who do you think bit 635 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: slide if if you know, would it be Stingley, maybe 636 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardener Like McDuffie seems to really making some noise 637 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, like or you know, the premier 638 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: tackles and I what I said, you got the NC 639 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: State I don't want to try to pronounce his name. 640 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: You got NC State, Um the Alabama kid and so 641 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: or the linebackers you know, could could could Dean slip? 642 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, is that because it's a linebacker, 643 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Like what would what wouldn't surprise you? My goodness, Derwin 644 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: slipped to him, Rashaw Slater slipped to him. So we've 645 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: seen it, like what would not surprise you? Like this 646 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: big name ended up sliding to seventeen. It wouldn't surprise 647 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: me if Nikobe Dean, the Georgia linebacker, was there Some 648 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: early rumblings I've heard is that some teams are a 649 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: little bit concerned that he's going to be short and 650 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: he's not gonna have long arms. But like I mentioned earlier, 651 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: and like you guys know, Tom Tolesco is fine with 652 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: you know, these almost safeties playing the linebacker position, and 653 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I think that's what you need in today's NFL. So 654 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: to have Devin Lloyd as his number one competition to 655 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: be the first linebacker off the board. And Devin Lloyd 656 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: is like sixty three with long arms, Like, there's no 657 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: concerns in terms of the measurements. He'll measure in more 658 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: like a first round pick, like top ten or a 659 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: top fifteen selection. Don't be surprised if Nikobe Dean, even 660 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: though the fluidity is there the production on a national 661 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: title winning Georgia team, if he's the one that slips 662 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: to seventeen and we're all wondering, how did the Chargers 663 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: get another premier player later in the first round. Chris, 664 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: before I have you plug everything you're doing and what 665 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: you got going on during the draft process, I know 666 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: you you're a Western New York guys. We just talked 667 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: about the Bills. How is everything going in Buffalo right? Now, well, 668 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: my dad is just coming down from the loss like 669 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: two weeks later, I think, from the divisional loss. But 670 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: to have a quarterback entrenched in Josh Allen, I think 671 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: everyone collectively in the area is just relieved because it 672 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: took about twenty years for them to get their guy 673 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: and to have And truly I believe it's it's a 674 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: quarterback league today. That's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, 675 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow, and they all have similar characteristics and 676 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: that they're big, they have pretty good arms. I think 677 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow actually is the least physically talented of the four. 678 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Can improvise outstanding league, can run when they need you, 679 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: and can make those wild throws. So for the Bills 680 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: and their fans to be like, hey, we finally have 681 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: one of those guys, I think there's a lot of 682 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: optimism looking forward that he's only twenty six years old. 683 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, Chris, promote what you got going on throughout 684 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: this draft process and where people can follow you a 685 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: lot of rankings over the next couple of weeks and 686 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: months at cbssports dot com slash NFL slash Draft. I'm 687 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: also on TikTok now doing a lot of film reviews 688 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, and uh, certainly we'll be diving 689 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: into a lot of um, the NFL Draft procect dances. No, 690 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: no dance. Yeah, I don't use it for that. I'm 691 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: just showing film. I'm not I'm not going to try 692 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: any of the trending dances. That would be really bad. 693 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, the last thing that I wanted to promote 694 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: if I can, is I'm selling my grading system. I 695 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: created a grading system for NFL Draft prospects over the 696 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: past four years just to be able to sort things 697 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: a lot easier for CBS Sports dot Com. It's called 698 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: Stouting grade Book. You can find it in a link 699 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: or in the link in my bio on Twitter, on 700 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: TikTok on Instagram. If you want to try your hand 701 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: at stout draft prospects, you can do that with a 702 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: Stouting grade Book. Nice amazing, nice good stuff, Chris. But 703 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: we got to have you back before the draft. And 704 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: oh you know what, hold on, Chris, I just thought 705 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: of it because I got my board from the from 706 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the NFLPA game because you said his name, and I 707 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: swear everybody that was out there said the same thing. 708 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: And it's nothing against the NFLPA game. There were a 709 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: lot of great players there, but there was one guy 710 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: that just looked out of play. There are actually two 711 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: guys that looked out of place there. They just looked 712 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: like they were They stood out so much you kind 713 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: of wondered, Oh, we'll probably see them in the Senior 714 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: Bowl or they'll flash at the combine. You mentioned one's name, 715 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: Sam Williams. I can't figure out why he was at 716 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: the NFLPA Bowl and not the Senior Bowl or the 717 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: East West Game. And the other one was quantras Knight, 718 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: who unfortunately ended up getting hurt. But like those two 719 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: guys just through practice, they really looked like they were 720 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: a notch above the rest of the guys that were 721 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: out there. Is that accurate? And like, what what's the 722 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: story on those two? Yeah? The story on Sam Williams. 723 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: I think there's some off field concerns with him. I mean, 724 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: but he is inmobile now. I think he was a 725 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: late addition and he's looked even good at the Senior Bowl. 726 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: So he's someone super productive in the in the SEC, 727 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: powerful player, great with his hands. In quantraz Night is 728 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, he's a cornerback from UCLA. Saula. Yeah, 729 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: he was a surprise. I thought he would maybe be 730 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: one of the players or better players at the Shrine Bowl. 731 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: I don't really have anything on why he was at 732 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: the NFL PA Bow. That's usually you know, sixth and 733 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 1: seventh round picks. If he's healthy, he's probably a fourth 734 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: or a fifth round selection. Awesome, Chris, you're the man brother. Well, 735 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: hopefully you talk to you soon. Absolutely, guys, thanks for 736 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: having me, Thanks Chris. All right, guys, another reminder to 737 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: bolt up your experience just in time for the big game. 738 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: With ten dollars off your first three months of YouTube TV, 739 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: you get access to eighty five plus live TV channels, 740 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: unlimited DVR space, and game day features like key plays. 741 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Just be sure to record the game and then use 742 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: the key plays view right in the YouTube TVPP catch 743 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: up on all the highlights you may have missed. Plus, 744 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: you can cancel it any time with no hidden fees. 745 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: That's a touchdown YouTube TV. Try it free and then 746 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: save ten dollars per month for your first three months 747 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: terms apply cancel anytime, all right, money. We're shifting our 748 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: focus from week one, Week two, Week three to senior 749 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: Bowl and combine and a nice little starter here with Chris, 750 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: no doubt, and I think you know you hit on 751 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: a lot of and look, unfortunately, that's what you get 752 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: excited about. Right when you don't have a chance to 753 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: win the Lombardi. You think about players that will help 754 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: you win the Lombardi the next year. And every team 755 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: Need has needs. Every team is going to find players 756 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: in the draft that help them out. Teams approach it 757 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: differently the way they use the draft. You can look 758 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: at the one team that's in the Super Bowl. Nobody 759 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: approaches roster building like the Rams. The amount of first 760 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: round picks. They're not going to have a one, two 761 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: or three in the twenty twenty two draft because the 762 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: one went for Matthew Stafford, of the two and the 763 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: three we went for Von Miller. Howd that work out 764 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: pretty darn well? And you know, less Need does such 765 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: a good job on the back end of that roster 766 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: and finding guys in the later rounds that contribute, you know, 767 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: on special teams at positions like linebacker and safety, interior line. 768 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: And he's able to do that. So everybody's got a 769 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: different philosophy or approach of how they want to use 770 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: the draft plus free agency plus paying your own teams 771 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: and be your own players, and it can work both ways. 772 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can build and develop through the draft, 773 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: and you can of course dip into free agency like 774 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Did you know what's so many of those 775 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: players that they have their specifically on their defense were 776 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: guys that were just signed to this offseason in free agency. 777 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: And you can make it work. And there's there's no 778 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: right way or wrong way to well, there's a wrong 779 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: way to do it if you do it wrong, but 780 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean there's no particular way you're supposed to approach. 781 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: It's funny. I was just thinking about it in terms 782 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: of like Jordan Davis is a perfect example. Right, there's 783 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: so many people that are talking about, oh, Jordan Davis, 784 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, to the Chargers, they need a big body 785 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: to help with that run d And then you'll see 786 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: the counterpoint to that, which is, well, you know, can 787 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: you really afford to have a two down linemen that 788 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: isn't really known to rush the passer? And then you'll 789 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then I'll come back and say, well, 790 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: did you guys happen to see the Chargers this last year? 791 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: You know how many third and twos and third and 792 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: ones and third and threes that they faced because they 793 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: couldn't stop the freaking run. So I need to hear about, oh, 794 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: he's only a two down lineman. Yeah, if it's third night, 795 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: then it's just much better. Give me the two down 796 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: linemen instead of the skinny guy that's running up field 797 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: the whole time. And they're in a bunch of third 798 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: and ones, and it's the worst third down defense in 799 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: the league. So it is any how people unpack all 800 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: these players that are supposed to help you or all 801 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a great pick. It's I'm in the 802 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: middle of it. I'll be going out to the Combine 803 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. It just it cracks me up, 804 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm such a fan of this whole time 805 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: of year, for the teams and for all the football 806 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: fans and specifically the Chargers. Last thing, how was the 807 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 1: NFL p A game for you? And Bucky looking sharp 808 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: calling it? It was great. I really enjoyed it. You know, 809 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: it's my first time calling it. Um, it's the first 810 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: time they put me on one of those three games. 811 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: So I certainly appreciate the folks over at at NFL Network. 812 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: You know Charlie and those guys for tabbing me and 813 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: Flow to call that game. And Buck was great and 814 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: obviously knows every player out there. Um, But it's fun 815 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: to see those players like Sam Cunnyea's a perfect example, right, 816 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: just shine and like, oh now he's a you know, 817 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: why is why is this guy Sam Williams, I said Cunningham. 818 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: She's Sam Williams, six three and a half, two hundred 819 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: and sixty pounds flying off the edge. She's got what 820 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: thirty like thirty five inch arms and you just see it. 821 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: And so it's fun to get in early on things 822 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: like that, and then you see the local guys play well. 823 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: And then there's the small school players. We had a 824 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: guy by the name of Deshauan Dixon that was fantastic 825 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: at wide receiver out of Nichols that raised his hand. 826 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: We had another guy, Chaquez Zard out of sam Houston 827 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: State who looked really good out there. The MVP was 828 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: Cole Kelly who's out of Southeastern Louisiana. He was an 829 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: Arkansas transfer and he's a giant. He's like six seven, 830 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pounds, rushed for sixteen touchdowns through 831 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: for five thousand yards, so Cole was great. So it's 832 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's especially those because you know, 833 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: we all know what the first round is going to 834 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: look like. For the most part, we recognize a lot 835 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: of those names, but when you start getting into the 836 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: sixth and seventh round, that's what a lot of these 837 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: players are and that was a lot of fun. Hundred 838 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: and third I think I think the stat was one 839 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine players from the NFLPA Bowl from 840 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: the last three years or on NFL rosters. So it's 841 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: just as important to get the back end to that roster. 842 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: I meant to name a few, Terik Cohen, Darnell Mooney, 843 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: Legarius Snead for the Chiefs. Sampson Ebocam of the forty 844 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: nine was like big time players that made their way 845 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: through the NFLPA Bowl. So it's a lot of fun 846 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: to be part of that. Yeah, I love this process 847 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: because when you see some of these guys at the 848 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and I I remember when Dusin Herbert was 849 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. He had crowds around him and 850 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: we had no idea where he was gonna go. I 851 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: remember when Kaiser White was a was a safety safety 852 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: in the Senior Bowl out of West Virginia. And just 853 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: look at Mac Jones last year. Mac Jones last year, 854 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: I remember the big when when Baker went How big 855 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: of a deal it was because I think he came late. 856 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's fun to look back during this process. 857 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: And just another example, I did a piece for CBS 858 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: so on Dmetric Felton from UCLA. Yeah, we had no 859 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: idea where he the NFLPA Bowl guy. Yeah, and and 860 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: and he was a you know, he was a standoff 861 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: for the Browns on special teams this year. So you 862 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: never know where these guys are gonna go in and 863 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: you hope that, you know, you get to see some 864 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: of their stories as Chargers. And we'll see this kind 865 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: of process play out over the next few months. We'll 866 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: have you covered and then of course next week Super 867 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: Bowl Week here in LA, we'll be back with another 868 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly powered by YouTube TV for Matt 869 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: Muddy Smith. I'm Chris Harry. We'll see you next week.