WEBVTT - Chuck Wicks 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.920 Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.400 She's only actually got the snoop on the on the 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:28.360 ones to side. No one can do with Cliel Carola Carola. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:36.320 No one can do with quiet La caral Tile Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.800 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.800 could be adult content. So I'm pretty excited. I have 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.040 Chuck Wicks in the house. What what? You probably recognize 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.400 his voice from every morning when you're listening to the 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:04.160 radio to Tie Chuck and Kelly. Chuck is the Chuck 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.280 of Tie Chuck and Tuck. Oh my gosh, say that 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.280 three times fast, Tie Chuck and Gilly, and he's joining me. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.880 He also had a huge hit stealing Cinderella. When he 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.679 launched into country music a few years ago. We talked 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.000 all about his journey with country music to Dancing the 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:24.600 Stars to radio. It's all happening right now. Here's Chuck Wicks. Hey, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.679 Chuck Wicks, what's up. I've been trying to get you 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.800 on my podcast now for I think a solid year. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.759 I've been waiting patiently. You have figured out really polite 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.880 ways to blow me off on a regular racist. I'm busy. Yeah, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.840 I gotta go to the bathroom several times a day. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.280 I just combed my hair. I brushed my teeth. It's 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.760 a fine time. Between all that. There's a lot, you know, 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.880 I love you. I just wanted to wait until you know, 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.400 I got my own studio. Yes, okay, and better lighting 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.400 and now I and now I don't like it because 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.560 clearly we're an HD and I just I didn't wear 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.320 any makeup today. You didn't any makeup for all the 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.920 people at home. Well, I think you're looking right, thank you. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.040 That was fishing. I was fishing. Yeah, you're not shiny 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.280 or anything. You just look great. The coloring is nice, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.000 thank you. I I do Keels. You do. You have 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.840 to get Michael Keels. He actually go Sirium first. Okay, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.160 so this is your routine. What's your beaute serious stuff? Guys, Sirium, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.520 got some guys in the behind the cameras right now. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.600 You gotta do the serum, Sirium. Then you go age 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:30.600 defender right here, around here and then you go, you know, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.000 your your standard lotion. Do you do this every day? 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.959 Twice a day? I just started about two months ago. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.959 Have you noticed the difference. You don't seem like there's 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.959 any wrinkles in your face? Thank you so much. Wait 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.960 till I laugh and smile, though, then you will see them. 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.040 There's a laugh line though. Yeah. I look back now. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.360 I feel like I'm really old now, like I'm talking like, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:55.440 oh my god, you're about to be forty. That's why 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.320 Kim Kardashian never smiles. I'm telling you because the lines. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.400 People don't And there's girls that are in her twenties 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:07.280 doing botox now, right, They say to prevent it's preventative. Yeah, 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.120 that's what I'm doing. I'm a little late to the party, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.359 but guys should be. I should be about ten years later. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.560 I haven't. I haven't gone botox. I don't think i'll 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.840 ever go botox route. I don't love guys with botox. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.760 Even though I know your image, I don't know they 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.399 got botox because you can kind of tell because it's 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.000 the sidelines. Like when guys, here's here's what goes away 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.840 when you get botox. You have no lines. On the 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.200 side and your forehead is frozen. And once you know that, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.680 you can see it like see, like I'm so excited, 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.360 I'm not really raising my eyes. Can you tell? So 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.960 you do botox? Yeah? Don't. Bow talks about how long 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.320 you've been doing bot talk? Oh see, I started a 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:45.080 little younger. You know Taylor Lynn, my former bandmate, she 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.080 was seven years older than me, so she got me started. 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.520 When that's why you can't hang out with older chicks, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.160 I know, because they get you into all their stuff 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.840 and then you start talking older, acting older, acting older, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.040 doing older things right again, bo talks. Actually, you know 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.880 you're in a wheelchair, right and your thirty five? You 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.040 got a walker with two little tennis balls in the front. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.160 So what's the moral of this story? Don't do botox 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.800 unless you absolutely have to? Or good to Keels. I'm 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.480 not sponsored by Keels, but I should should be. I 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.960 should be because that's it's expensive. Can I cuss on 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.360 your podcast? Ship is expensive? That ship is expensive? I 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.599 sorry to get that out of my first cuss word. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.440 I win. It wasn't a bad one though, pretty good. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.800 Would you like to cuss? I love the cuss? What's 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:34.200 your favorite cuss? Word. Oh jeez um, probably, I mean 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.920 I want to be I want to be a somewhat 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.240 sophisticated up here. The F word is my favorite one. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.839 I'll go for that one. Happy or sad or mad? Right, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:48.159 it's biting for everything. Yes, I preferred happy. If you 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.640 say when you're happy, you're having a good time, somewhat goodfense. Okay, 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.440 So can I ask you a few rapid fire questions? 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.080 Those weren't rapid fire, We're not. That was just combo. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:05.280 Let's go what energizes you? Uh? Monster energy drink? Oh 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.400 you throw those back as healthy as you are. You 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:13.120 drink three today? You're like training for an iron man? Right? Well, yeah, Octobery, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.640 you've already done one before. Yes, I did one in Honu, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.400 Hawaii last year. What goes on with that swim bike run? 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.599 Do you have just like a ton of energy to 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.960 put places? Because that is it's almost crazy that you're 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.680 doing that again for the second time, right, Yeah, I 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.320 mean it's a it's a lot of training. How did 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.280 you get this bug to do that? My buddy was 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.359 I went to college with because I played baseball in college, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.080 so I was I missed that competitive edge, so I wanted. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.520 I wanted something more. I wanted something to drive me 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.200 and something to like a real physical challenge. Yeah, I 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.520 wanted something to make me good because I've never been 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.200 a meat head. Like, I don't want to go to 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.720 the gym just to look good on the beach. I 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.680 want to go to the gym and be healthy for 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.240 a for a lifestyle change, right. So, but I also 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.880 wanted to have a competitive edge to it, so I 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.520 wanted to. I jumped into triathlons because my buddy did. 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.839 From college, he did sprint triathlon. So of course I said, well, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.680 I gotta go a step further and say I'll just 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.160 do iron Man's because that's like the highest you can 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.000 get in triathlon. Yeah, iron Man is, here's a full 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.520 and a half iron Man. I do a lot of 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.520 half iron Man's. Full iron Man's are They're tough on 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.600 your body. This will be my October will be my 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.719 fourth iron Man. I'm doing half half. I have to 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.120 tell everybody that because I made the mistake and he said, oh, yeah, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.080 I'm doing the iron Man honey, and they're like, and 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.520 so of course people that do the iron Man's are like, dude, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.080 that's only the half iron man haters getting on there? 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:43.840 So tell me what happens in the half iron Man. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.400 This is half the distance of the full iron Man, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.320 but I don't know what the full one point two 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.360 mile swim, This half iron Man at one point two 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.520 mile swim, fifty six mile bike and I still want 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.239 to get you. And then the half a half marathon 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.279 one all in succession. So do you have a favorite 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:07.520 one that you like? Running the very end sooners and 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.039 then I get a beer. I would say, what do 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.600 you do when you finish? I give them a little 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.200 metal and I grab a beer. Do you let yourself 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.840 walk or do you let yourself take breaks? Or is 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.160 it important to you that you just do the whole thing? Now? 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:19.960 You go for it, You go for it, You gotta 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.440 go for it. Wow, that's a lot of drive you 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.640 got there. That's exciting. That is exciting. Okay, would you 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.520 ever do that? Would you ever do it? I did 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.040 a half marathon, counts did have marathon, and I have 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.680 done a train for Amazing race twice, so I think 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.920 I could do it, but I don't have the desire 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.480 to do it. Amazing Race is more of a game, though, 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.120 That's not like you're you say so, but you have 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.840 no idea how exhausting amazing. I saw clips of you 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.880 on amazing race, and I was like, you thought it 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.440 was just easy. It looks like Jennifer's hold not most 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.280 of the way. On this one, we had a lot 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.040 of did you win? We lost by four seconds and 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.480 you're on twice both times, so you lost both times. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.640 We got fourth place the first time, we got second place, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.840 the second time we lost by four seconds the second time. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.040 That's crazy awful. Did you were you the slow one? No? 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.800 I was the man of the relationship. I like Jin 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:18.720 was my damsel. I used to tell her all the time. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.200 I was like, you're my bride. I'm taking care of 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.760 you because Jin is so smart in her head. She's 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.440 good at figuring things out, but she like physically she 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.360 would love to be cruising in a train with a 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.000 glass of wine while the people are doing the running activities. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.000 You know, Jennifer Wayne is who we're talking about, my 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.920 former bandmate is a fast walker but a slow runner. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.600 How do you know this? Do you just have to 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.360 kind of look at her for about ten seconds and 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.880 figure it out? Like she walk very fast running I 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.320 don't see her running very fast? How did you even 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.200 know to have that thought? I don't know. Is that 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:55.679 what you think about when you see people? Was like, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.960 I wonder you like pin them when they're walking running speed? No, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.480 it's just this, just this instance right now. I was like, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.679 she's a fast I figured her out. We should call 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.520 her and tell her. She's probably been wondering your whole life? 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.640 Do you feel like running? No? Just walk really faster here? 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:18.760 All right? Wait? You crazy? Okay? What exhaust you? Um? 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:25.440 Oh man, I'm very impatient? Okay, so um, I get 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.400 impatient a lot, and I just want to move on 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.960 from from whatever is happening. Like what do you normally 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.880 get impatient about waiting, just waiting around for anything? Is 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.880 it normally career focus or is it just all aspects 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.840 of life? No? I got I gave up on on 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.120 the putting time into the career part a long time ago. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.200 I just said, I just figured it. If it's going 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.320 to happen, it's going to happen. When do you reach 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:56.040 that point? Because you have such a colorful career, which 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.600 I think is so exciting because you moved to town 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.400 from Potato farm a singer and now you're still a singer. Obviously, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.440 but you're also hosting a morning show, one of the 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.199 biggest ones in the nation. You're training for iron Man, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.640 and well, I guess you just do morning show and 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.120 sing um. Do you have any other jobs? I don't 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.440 know about. I don't have any time for well, I 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.080 mean I would, I would love to. I've written, you know, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.600 I've read some scripts for movies and stuff like that. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.400 It would be a great actor. You have the faith 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.680 for an acting and the person that you'd be funny, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.640 that would really screw people up. And that guy has 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.600 got a face to written up because you know, you 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.319 get into radio radio, radio, and it was like, that's 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.080 so rude, and people save face, right. I think that 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:39.880 that's changed though a lot. There's a lot of good 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.360 looking people in radio. There is, Yeah, you're in radio. 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.840 That kind of discount, Yeah, sort of discount. I would 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.520 count it. So, But you started off I got away 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.079 from the question. The question is is what I think 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.280 is so cool about someone like you is you're a 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.920 perfect example of how you moved to town to be 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.520 a singer. You're obviously a singer, You've had great success 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.880 of that, but now you just got this opportunity through singing. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.800 It opened the door to becoming a great, huge radio 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.000 host for a morning show. So I think that is 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.800 so crazy. How to evolve, It is crazy. It's scary 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.840 the music business. Oh hell, I know what it was 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.400 that you said, you gave up worrying about career. So 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.480 why did that happen? Well through I remember through my 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.800 first single, which was called Stealing Cinderella, which my dad 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.200 still pulls over the side of the the road and has 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.000 to cry. Really, he has two daughters. It's the one 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.280 song in all of country music. And I'm not just 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.040 saying this, I've told you before. It hits him so 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.200 hard he can't handle it. That's awesome. You know. It's 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.439 funny about that song is when I first started touring around, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.240 it a lot of people because they didn't know, uh 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.040 you know, they couldn't They heard it on the radio, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.839 but they didn't know what the guy looked like that 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.599 was singing it, and a lot of people thought I 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.320 was an older dude, like an older man really, because 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:54.160 it's it's such a I've evolved a lot since that 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.160 first record, um vocally where I wanted to be, and 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.439 that song in particular is more of a very traditional 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.680 older sounding song. Yeah, So It was interesting because I 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.080 remember people coming Mary and I thought you'd be a 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.320 lot older, and you just you just a young pup there. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.120 How do you know we're talking about Cinderella? May you 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.400 got no cubes? Was that written about someone in particular? Well? 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.240 I was. I wrote that I was dating a girl, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.920 um that played Cinderella at Walt Disney World, so it 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.560 kind of was inspired by her job. Yeah. And then 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.160 the guys I sing Cinderella, Well I never did. We 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.840 never did get engaged or anything, but um, the idea 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.520 stemmed from that. And the two guys that I wrote 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.840 it with, Rivers Rutherford and George Tarrant. They are awesome writers. Um. Actually, 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.679 I like hand picked these guys to do it with 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.920 because I knew they would be perfect for the story 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.800 because they wrote when I get where I'm going for 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.960 Bret Paisley, I'm like, oh, these guys are true storytellers. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.800 So grabbed them, told him the story and they have daughters, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.960 so that's where it all kind of perfect. Yeah, they 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.160 all mixed it in. Song gets all the heart strings. Yeah, 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.240 that's cool. It's cool to see. I get a lot 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.760 of it was a big wedding song, so cool to 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.679 hear that. So how did your music career it kept evolving, 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.320 and then how did this radio thing pop in? And 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.760 when did you surrender worrying about it? There's so many questions. 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:18.160 I know, I like to give him there and they 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:22.280 answer your own pace. It's interesting. I moved the town 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.920 where I grew up on a farm potato fries. I 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.480 do love fries. I love fries. I asked my dad 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.080 when I was twelve years old, and I was dead serious, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.920 and I thought he was gonna be like no. And 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.640 I got so excited because he says, I asked him 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:41.720 to goat do we supply the French fries? I was involved? 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.440 Do we supply the French fries for all the McDonald's 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.720 he goes, Actually, yes, he goes in the Try state area. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:54.360 We're Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, that area, Maryland, New York. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.160 We supplied a lot of the McDonald's with potatoes for 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.040 their French fries. Oh my god. So that was like 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.280 the really that was a big cool factor, major claim 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.080 to fame. Yeah, I mean I walked around the halls 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.360 of high school and like, you guys, get McDonald's after this. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.840 You're welcome, you know, are you on a large fry. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:18.040 You're welcome. Yeah, grew those um and then we had 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:22.200 to sell the farm. Depressing. Yeah, was it sad? Why 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:27.320 did you sell the farm? Weren't making any money. They 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.160 grew their own potatoes, potatoes, So we grew out this stuff. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.040 We were We did barley corn. We were grain farmers. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.040 Officially we would be called grain farmers, but concentrated potatoes. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.200 Long story short, went to Florida to play baseball. That 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.120 was my original dream. Okay, so you're a baseball player. Yeah, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.880 that's what I wanted it. First base. That's a tricky 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.320 that's an important job on the field. That's what I 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.240 kept telling coach. Yeah, because first he didn't believe me, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.560 so he sat me on the bench. But in college 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.440 he was gonna know he was. He was a great coach. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.200 So by my junior year, I said, well, I'm not 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.080 going to get drafted. I don't want to transfer to 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.040 try to get drafted through another program. So that's when 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.880 I picked up a guitar. Did you know you could sing? 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.920 I just at that point it was just singing for friends, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.000 because you actually have a very unique, great voice. So 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.120 the fact that you kind of found this later life 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.120 is crazy that it wasn't like your first pursuit because 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.600 it's really good. Yeah, it's a compliment. That's a compliment 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.320 when somebody says you act shot man chuck. Well, the 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.520 fact that you actually found it later you were gonna suck, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.920 but you do have a pretty good voice. The fact 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:45.000 that you've discovered this very large talent that you had 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.040 later on in life and didn't start for singing at 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.480 a young age. It's crazy because it's a really great voice. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.040 Because thank you, because most did that. Did you? Did 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.920 you pick up what I'm putting down? I picked it 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.240 up and keep it, keep it tucking in your heart, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.160 put it right up in there. Um, thank you, I said. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:02.960 My surprise. My mom and dad too. I remember when 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.680 I told him I was moving to Nashville to go 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.560 get a record deal. They you sing, Yeah, they had 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.120 no idea and I was like yes, So they made 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.440 me sing to them in the kitchen. Well that your 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.160 parents need to know how you sound if you're moving 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.960 to Nashville record I quit college to do it. I 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.360 quit college. You get so confident in your newfound talent 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.600 that you just knew you were going to get a 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.440 record deal so fast that's amazing. Well I stopped, I went, 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.920 I started going part time. I was like, my senior year, 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.440 I'm gona go part time so I can travel back 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.880 and forth in Nashville. Did it Okay? When was the 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.520 moment that you're like singing, this is it and I'm 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:46.240 going to get a record? Doll? Um? Probably there was 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.960 a girl on the soccer team in my college. She 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.680 had asked me to come meet her. She wanted to 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.520 be in a pop group because I went to school 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.320 in Florida. So this is right around Orlando, which is 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.000 when in sync Backstreet Boys all those guys are exploding, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.400 and so she was in the pop world. So I 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:07.480 meet this guy. It was ironically Transcontinental Records with the 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:12.080 guy that's in jail. But now he's passed away. Um, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.840 I don't know. He managed saying for a long time 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.280 was with them. Um. The name will come back to 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.560 me probably after this interview is done, and uh, just 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.159 look up Transcon Records and you'll see the guy pop up. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.880 And I saw that guy and I was like, holy god, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.720 you know, it's larger than life figure because he was 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.640 such around these huge acts and I was like, man, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.439 that's cool. It's a pretty cool lifestyle. I could do this, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.119 especially being a kid in college, and but I always 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.080 knew I wanted to do country music. So yeah, So 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.399 I had asked her manager that she was working with. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.080 I was like, I need to talk to somebody in 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.640 the country world. So I ended up doing that and 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.760 that person was like, let's go back and forth to Nashville. 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.840 And you know, just while I was doing part time 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.439 college and coming as soon as I can the Nashtral 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.159 That's when I knew. So, did you know you're going 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.639 to get a record? Like that was the only option? No, 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.360 you know, I had like, um in college, I remember 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.080 asking specifically one of my vocal coaches because I wanted 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.720 to learn the proper way to sing and breathing techniques 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:16.200 and stuff. I was like, do you think I'm good enough? 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.159 Do you think I can get a record deal? He's like, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:19.760 no doubt you're gonna get The guy was like, no 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.000 doubt you're going to get a record deal. So he 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.920 was so confident saying that. I'm like, oh that you 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.720 like to believe that. I was like, okay, cool, So 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.800 how'd you go about getting it? Met the right people 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:33.399 at r c A Records. UM made a horrible demo tape. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.639 I did a Brian mcknights song, One Last Cry, and 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.800 then I did uh Andy Griggs song because in my 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.840 mind it was actually an old Whale and Jennings song 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:51.480 that he did. Um okay, I can't think, So you 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.080 did Andy Riggs and because I want to do something 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:59.600 really country and really R and B pop. Yeah, your 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.840 versus okay, versatile and um I knew nothing. I had 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.159 these horrible pictures. I made a stupid little folder with 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.240 a picture on top of it, and you open it up, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.400 CDs in there and the same pictures on the CD cover. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.520 It's like, so, but you're doing it. Yeah, But it 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.120 worked because I gave it today and our guy who's 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.760 now is my one of my best friends, Jim Jim Catino. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.000 So he saw it and he goes, hey, man, I'm 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.960 gonna listen to this on I gotta go to a 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.120 sound check for he was doing the c m A Fest. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.760 So in the middle of June, I'm flying up and 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.680 back forth because I'm listening to some of the ways, 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.040 Oh you're gonna do listen to sound check? He was all, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.600 Kenny Chesney, I'm like, so, I thought it was super 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.800 cool because this guy is gonna go listen to my 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.040 music on the way to go listen to Kenny Chesney 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.280 sound check. Isn't it crazy? What sticks in your mind? Yeah? 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.080 Like you're like, I'm in cahoots with people who are 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.520 doing this. Yeah. So he So I had to fly 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.920 back the next day and Jim calls me and says, 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.440 a man, will you come in? And I didn't play 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.199 guitar yet, because so you're this is incredible. This is 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.080 you literally got the drive to do it and just 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.880 made a happy bloomer. Hey, it doesn't matter better late 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:14.840 than never, because here you bloomed late bloomer. So he goes, 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.480 will you come in and sing? Just saying I was like, wow, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.240 I don't have a guitar player, I don't play guitar. 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.480 Just come in sing acapella. He goes like, I think 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.440 I heard something like the tape you gave me that 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.640 I really liked. I came in sanging acapella. That's when 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.800 it all started happening. Signed right then, Well, he said 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.520 I want to assign you to a development deal, and 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.840 I hoped him up with Monty Pale, great producer, and 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.520 then you know that, then Monty Pale introduced me to 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.680 Dan Huff and then Dan Huff of My Pale Dan 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.960 produced You did the first my first record in r 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:44.920 c A. So as soon as I got the development deal, 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:46.399 you kind of like moved to town and got a 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.679 deal right away. I didn't move to town until I 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.560 got the development deal. That's kind of the dream that 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.680 never really happens, Like it really happened, but then it 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.120 came to a screeching all. So I get the development deal, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:58.800