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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys Church getting ready to just the replay of
Speaker 3: the Bills forty nine Ers game is on.
Speaker 2: You did not pick.
Speaker 3: That's where I picked the dust Man. For those who
Speaker 3: don't know, if Dust is Josh Allen but Bill quarterback.
Speaker 3: I thought I went with Josh Allen on this one.
Speaker 3: Guess what happened. We never picked a game. We didn't pick,
Speaker 3: no way. I went back to see me after y'all
Speaker 3: locked me and C we had a convo. Okay, Chris
Speaker 3: Christ this is what I have. Okay, that's what I
Speaker 3: got right on that. We had Cowboys Giants. We all
Speaker 3: picked the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: One that was a schmacker. The second we had is
Speaker 2: Miami at green Bay. I think I went with soul Brother. Heckma,
Speaker 2: you had green Bay. I had green Bay the soul brother.
Speaker 2: You went with coach soul lost. All right, that's the
Speaker 2: one and one.
Speaker 3: Then we had Pittsburgh at Cincinnati. I took Russ. Heckman,
Speaker 3: you took Russ. That's right, you took Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: I would have gets the bag. I was tripping that
Speaker 2: day those things before thanks Giving. You your Chargers were
Speaker 2: at Atlanta. Yeah, we know what happened. We all took
Speaker 2: the Chargers. We all want you know what happened with that.
Speaker 2: Arizona at Minnesota. We all took Minnesota. Nobody would call it.
Speaker 3: In the last game, Philly and Baltimore, ye know what
Speaker 3: that was. I took Philly YouTube man, smart man. You
Speaker 3: took Baltimore smart bad.
Speaker 2: That was man. That was it. So Hecker, you lost
Speaker 2: one game. I went against the Bird lost one game.
Speaker 2: You lost two games. I was tripping. I was undefeated. Damn,
Speaker 2: I was tripping. I didn't make my game up. Man.
Speaker 2: You want to get man man cooking the book. It's
Speaker 2: not that hot, it's not that How you going against Pittsburgh?
Speaker 2: I was tripping on that one. Yeah, must have been that.
Speaker 2: Can't stop nobody, they look bad, can't stop nobody a
Speaker 2: little bit. I can't wait till we get into it.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's favored by six points against the Cowboys. Of course
Speaker 2: they are, of course that would you expect anything then Cowboys?
Speaker 2: But I don't know Joe Burrow will stop that? What
Speaker 2: they don't do? What you heard? You heard the man.
Speaker 2: It's Curtains bro smack small. It's about to get up
Speaker 2: about matchups?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how I get Okay, we got all week,
Speaker 3: We got all week.
Speaker 2: But we got all week.
Speaker 3: Josh, Butler's out, don't I didn't tell you.
Speaker 4: I didn't what d run blank? He got run blank?
Speaker 4: What we do is how's dig? So we're gonna talk
Speaker 4: about digs at any point. It's not because you travel
Speaker 4: the way y'all gonna paint this this week? Travel No,
Speaker 4: the game is here, right, don't don't paint it. Don't
Speaker 4: paint it like that. You have to stay here.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Have we gonna paint it. That's what I'm just saying. You.
Speaker 4: You you the architect. You know you're the main one
Speaker 4: with the brush. Don't even play with me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the main one with the brush. Him, Him and that
Speaker 4: right there, Him and that little book right he go
Speaker 4: to cook it on Tuesday. On Wednesday, Hey, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 2: We start cooking. Well, let's go back what we're saying.
Speaker 3: Wow, Cincinnati favor by six Gish Butler's out. You know
Speaker 3: they're gonna throw They're gonna go as Brown and the
Speaker 3: slatch in the backfield.
Speaker 2: I'm just who is that brown? Yeah? You like him?
Speaker 2: I like him enough. You like him.
Speaker 3: I told you it's gonna be it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: slober knocker, but not in a good way. I'm just
Speaker 3: letting y'all know. Now, early prediction. Okay, so points is
Speaker 3: a lot. That's a that's a lot, a lot. That's
Speaker 3: you can't get it done.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: You didn't watch I mean, obviously Sunday Kate Moore did, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: we're going I think my boy up there in multiple Okay,
Speaker 4: wait for later for that, wait for later, not that's
Speaker 4: what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: But what wait for later?
Speaker 4: Did you get an opportunity to watch the Cincinnati Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 2: I did watch.
Speaker 3: They had it here CBS, so I was, I was,
Speaker 3: so you are you're seeing the pressure that Joe Burrow is.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's running for his life. That's out there.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: And the thing is, I think leadership wise, front office wise,
Speaker 4: if you follow the money, you recognize that the Brown
Speaker 4: family's not handing out no bang to nobody.
Speaker 2: About everything. And it's weird.
Speaker 4: It's a weird organization with the way that they handle players,
Speaker 4: especially the talent that they have.
Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow is getting hit a lot again this year.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the one thing when you look
Speaker 4: at their division and them trying to compete, them giving
Speaker 4: up that many sacks against got teams like Pittsburgh, against
Speaker 4: teams like Baltimore. In the Browns, I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 4: take a lot of punish. He's been taking a ton
Speaker 4: of punishment. And I think the Cowboys, if there is
Speaker 4: a sliver of sunshine, oh, if there is a slipper,
Speaker 4: if there is.
Speaker 2: If there is an opium, I can't believe what's going on.
Speaker 2: Now there you.
Speaker 3: Go, So you are crcked. You are correcked Man took
Speaker 3: four sacks. Joe Burrow took four sacks. Still through for
Speaker 3: three hundred yards, three touchdowns and thirty eight points against
Speaker 3: the Steelers.
Speaker 2: The Steelers, he's that good. Put put up thirty four
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, lost by one. He's that good. He's
Speaker 2: that good. I mean, I just Vegas. They make it.
Speaker 2: They they're building those great buildings there for a type
Speaker 2: of resorts. Cincinnati by six because you just named it against.
Speaker 3: Teams with great defenses. We're talking about Baltimore. You just
Speaker 3: named Pittsburgh out there. They got TJ Why they loaded
Speaker 3: defensively when you talk all three levels.
Speaker 2: And he's still putting up those type of points.
Speaker 3: But the way he's catching l's is their offenses are
Speaker 3: able to score on Cincinnati's defense. Now when it comes
Speaker 3: to Dallas, do we think Dallas can put up thirty
Speaker 3: one point?
Speaker 2: Is the big question mark? You know what is the
Speaker 2: big question mark?
Speaker 3: Coopers go to the Okay, correct, they shootout? Can we
Speaker 3: go back to back to back rushing game?
Speaker 2: Know what? What I'm what's that's?
Speaker 4: That is the two things you just talked about right
Speaker 4: there is one not get into a shootout and number two.
Speaker 4: Take the air out of the ball with Rico o'daldle.
Speaker 4: That's you're gonna have to do that. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: to back up that staying balanced routine that you've done
Speaker 4: for the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: That is gonna have to work for you.
Speaker 4: You can't get into a situation with Cincinnati where you're
Speaker 4: trying to go point for point. No, you're not gonna
Speaker 4: have any success that way. And I think Cod Zimmer
Speaker 4: the strategy has to be that you have to be
Speaker 4: able to stop them on the ground because if they
Speaker 4: have that balance as you saw against Pittsburgh, because Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: wasn't stopping them either. I mean as much as their
Speaker 4: office was scoring and Russ was cooking, he was cooking,
Speaker 4: he was cooking. Because that secondary for Cincinnati is susceptible.
Speaker 2: Russ did throw six in the game, by the way,
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 4: Third play the game. Where are you gonna apologize the Russ?
Speaker 4: Where you're gonna say? Where you gonna get some Come on? Now,
Speaker 4: I know your frat brother, but can you at least
Speaker 4: say something, brother?
Speaker 3: Four fourteen three touchdowns interception, Hey man.
Speaker 2: Rush wait go baby, that's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Good on you rush and and this is you know,
Speaker 3: I'll say that this is a genius of Mike Tong,
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, Mike doogle In with everybody.
Speaker 2: This guy, this Mike Tomlin is a Hall of Fame coops.
Speaker 2: That's why I put out their social media yesterday.
Speaker 3: And so Mike Tomlin and Arthur Smith, they have found
Speaker 3: a way to do what Sean Payton would not do
Speaker 3: last year and get something out of Russell Wilson say.
Speaker 3: They said Russell was washed up. I believe, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know what, devil's a lie because uh, every time
Speaker 3: you know the truth I got, I get to proof that.
Speaker 3: That game today is a proof yea. So and uh
Speaker 3: there were a lot of people who said they need
Speaker 3: to stick with justin Fields and Tomlin said, noa, Noah,
Speaker 3: let's make it over here.
Speaker 4: They already saw it them. You know they will see it.
Speaker 4: They saw it in practice. They saw practice. And I said,
Speaker 4: Russ sitting out for those first couple of games, just
Speaker 4: to give everybody.
Speaker 3: A sample size, let show you. Let me show y'all
Speaker 3: what could something see if you're like that? And here
Speaker 3: are the Steelers right now, nine and three in the division,
Speaker 3: in first place, Baltimore is eight and five. So the
Speaker 3: Steelers are you know, they're they're controlling this thing and
Speaker 3: right now looking like the number.
Speaker 2: Two seed, uh three seed.
Speaker 3: Kansas City in the AFC is eleven and one, Buffalo
Speaker 3: is ten and two. That is Pittsburgh int ninety three.
Speaker 3: And so Mike Tomlin probably won't win Coach of the
Speaker 3: Year honors, but my goodness, gracious, the man deserves to
Speaker 3: be in the mix for it because what they've done
Speaker 3: this year is pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: The Broncos gave them a quarterback. They're paying for their
Speaker 4: quarterback right now. That is what the Broncos are doing.
Speaker 4: Although they're having success with their rookie, they basically got
Speaker 4: rid of him, sent him to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh for years.
Speaker 4: You being a Pittsburgh native, one of the people in
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh said, if we just had a all those years
Speaker 4: after being the defense was still intact, you still have
Speaker 4: some offensive weapons out there. All they needed was a quarterback.
Speaker 4: And all Russ is doing is not messing it up.
Speaker 4: Even though he threw that pick six. What I mean
Speaker 4: his ability to protect the ball, not making mistakes. Some
Speaker 4: of his genius plays was him throwing the damn ball away.
Speaker 4: Imagine that that's true.
Speaker 3: So am I crazy to say they don't let Russ
Speaker 3: cook that? They say, here the recipe for all the
Speaker 3: instructions the way Brian Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll said in.
Speaker 4: Seattle Arthur Smith that their their offensive coordinator is and
Speaker 4: I gotta apologize.
Speaker 2: About let me care. I'm keeping.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: So he's clear.
Speaker 4: He's clearly got with Russ and said, Russ, look, if
Speaker 4: you don't put the ball in Harm's way and Russey
Speaker 4: in the gun slinger anyway, you know he's gonna take
Speaker 4: the He's gonna take the conservative rounde. He's a high
Speaker 4: i Q football player, but I'm not. And I know
Speaker 4: a day and age you don't want to call a
Speaker 4: guy a glorified bus driver. But he's doing a damn
Speaker 4: good job job driving the bus and not putting the
Speaker 4: ball out.
Speaker 2: Just something.
Speaker 3: This is the recipe, don't dd eight, just respect it.
Speaker 2: Let's cook like this. But let's Russ cooking.
Speaker 3: Is one reason why he left Seattle, because he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I need to be cooking that man.
Speaker 2: He's making play.
Speaker 3: So you get up there to Denver. They letting Russ
Speaker 3: cook up there in Denver. What happened I was Sean
Speaker 3: Payton got with him. He's like, nah, man, you're not cooking.
Speaker 3: He I want to cook. And then they didn't work out.
Speaker 3: You gotta go, Sean Payton. And by the way, I
Speaker 3: gotta apologize by bow Knicks. I think bow Knicks would
Speaker 3: be a Sean Payton found a guy who's going to
Speaker 3: do what I want to do. Russ wasn't doing it.
Speaker 3: So Sean Payton was right in terms of getting rid
Speaker 3: of Russ to find his guy. Okay, that's what he did.
Speaker 3: And Pittsburgh was right to go get Russ. So everybody's winning.
Speaker 3: So apologies Sean Payton to buy bow Knicks because I
Speaker 3: thought he was on there.
Speaker 2: Pologies, Big Russ. Russ's riding. The whole pack of Badgers
Speaker 2: is riding again. So good. So sometimes it becomes fits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it's fits at least at least that's why
Speaker 3: he did not.
Speaker 2: Fit with Sean Payne.
Speaker 6: Won.
Speaker 2: Sean Payne got what he wanted. Mike Toland, trust do this.
Speaker 3: But I do believe they say, man, it's stop, no cook,
Speaker 3: no no deviate, just do this.
Speaker 2: You do this. We have a formula and it's winning.
Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean he is making play. He's making.
Speaker 3: Has made plays, but he was trying to make Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you prime one here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: When Jerry talked about he wanted to make the office
Speaker 3: Romo friendly, and what was Romo's best year, it was
Speaker 3: when DeMarco Murray was running the ball. They ran the
Speaker 3: ball more like, hey man, I don't throw it forty
Speaker 3: because you're not paid. Man, just just do this play
Speaker 3: within this m when Bill Parcells was it play within
Speaker 3: this minute?
Speaker 2: Is that what Kellen's doing? Yeah, I ain't gonna disrespect
Speaker 2: Kellyen like that, y'all.
Speaker 3: Somebody told, how do we not start that captain slanders
Speaker 3: on the players out?
Speaker 2: How what he's doing?
Speaker 3: Give it the same one, give the same to this
Speaker 3: was due, So hurts A J.
Speaker 2: Brown a bother got her? They balling you just bigger
Speaker 2: than me? Sae is the son like hurt. I don't
Speaker 2: want to don't want to hear A. J. Brown earth.
Speaker 3: W Son got these boys ball Troit's elite because it
Speaker 3: gives it's too elite runners.
Speaker 4: I mean saying, That's what I'm saying. So you ain't
Speaker 4: say nothing about Ben Johnson. What you mean Ben Johnson
Speaker 4: is falling the formula, which is so now it's the formula. Now,
Speaker 4: whose formula is it?
Speaker 2: You're ahead of the hit a minute?
Speaker 4: Whose formula is? Wait a minute. I just wanted Mary
Speaker 4: my question. If you if you're the head of the offense,
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, you're running everything, whose formula is it?
Speaker 2: It's the O C.
Speaker 4: It's the he's what you're what you're taking. You're taking
Speaker 4: the tools that you have, and you're world right. But
Speaker 4: if you have a running back, if you top offense,
Speaker 4: if you if you have a running back, and and
Speaker 4: Kellen has downfall has been in the past that he
Speaker 4: hadn't used his start running situational right, No, no, no,
Speaker 4: he had Execuel Elliot here and now okay, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Kell can put all these but situationally one that's in
Speaker 3: the league right now because of what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Told me, that's making everything else work better for Kellen.
Speaker 4: It opens up his playbook because of what the running
Speaker 4: and the playbook. He's gonna agree with that playbooks is right.
Speaker 4: He's the one calling these players.
Speaker 2: What is Nick Sirianni's offensive.
Speaker 3: All they did when they went to Super Bowl two
Speaker 3: years ago, they ran the ball now running football team.
Speaker 2: You can't give no credit credit running back. And they
Speaker 2: went back to that killing Kelly doing that. Wow, man, wow.
Speaker 3: You call the man goes out there and calls the office,
Speaker 3: can call that office now five, you can.
Speaker 2: Play man, I'm not going there. Kell your trip.
Speaker 3: Try hear none of that, because you know you tripped
Speaker 3: right out there calling phenomenal plays.
Speaker 2: What's the phenomenal? Go left? Do you jump action? A
Speaker 2: brown ball?
Speaker 3: Jump so you can run it up the middle, you
Speaker 3: can run it outside lay action? I mean it's it's
Speaker 3: on there.
Speaker 2: Mean why he got the giants old up there, Jerry?
Speaker 2: Or what's gonna do with us? He showed you don't.
Speaker 3: Let's say I got an offensive line, he got a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Do coordinator? What coordinator? Hey?
Speaker 6: Go left?
Speaker 2: Hurst play? Well, we want to run left right?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 2: Take one? How hard is that? So that was so?
Speaker 3: If it was that easy, why ain't everybody having one?
Speaker 3: And so it's now sack one now offs all these differences,
Speaker 3: and I said, you gotta have the person architect. Can
Speaker 3: I at least can I at least say that he
Speaker 3: learned his lesson? Can he learned what he went to?
Speaker 3: L A had a bad experience in l A. He
Speaker 3: learned his lesson and now he's how running.
Speaker 2: Somebody else's running that thing. So that was how run.
Speaker 2: Who's up in the bun ain't got a place. Sheot
Speaker 2: in front of him. But he's called. He's making sure
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 3: They talked about that with Doug Peterson. When Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: wasn't trying to do how he wanted, he got got
Speaker 3: how and why wrong. It's okay you how, It's okay.
Speaker 3: It's your man's boss. It's okay. He's called the plays.
Speaker 3: He's putting up points on these teams.
Speaker 2: Why you do what you look like he is?
Speaker 3: I mean your boy d his offense last year in
Speaker 3: l A and everybody got fired.
Speaker 2: The Philly hey man, you need to do this. Get
Speaker 2: the battle sat one. We got big FANGI on the
Speaker 2: d C. Go ahead and get this done.
Speaker 3: It's not just everybody, but the got a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: quarterback and Jalen Hurts Jay Hurst when he was in
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl put up their numbers.
Speaker 2: It was a defense that let him down. It was
Speaker 2: a defensive fault.
Speaker 3: So you ain't said that last year with Hurts. Hey
Speaker 3: Man year was it was a bad year. Man, it
Speaker 3: was a bad man.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lie to you man.
Speaker 7: Dog fellows Wagon had that Super Bowl hangover dog Man
Speaker 7: juice last ye, same man throwing it everywhere?
Speaker 2: What are you doing it any somewhere? Dog team?
Speaker 3: And now they tell a man hand that ball off
Speaker 3: team handed ball, we'll go.
Speaker 2: Let go right which way we're gonna pull it out?
Speaker 2: Are you going to do to this puss you was doing?
Speaker 2: He wouldn't let him do do too much like Romo
Speaker 2: Friendly hurts Philly doing. Yeah, we need to get back
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Speaker 3: he didn't need he couldn't read defenses out there, and
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Speaker 3: no touchdowns, one interception, six.
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Speaker 3: QB rating of sixty six point nine drew lock in
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Speaker 3: twenty one or thirty six one hundred and ninety five yards,
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Speaker 2: Five picks taking here at the ball man. So that's
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Speaker 3: Got there between both quarterbacks. And a amazing number of
Speaker 3: people watched the game. It was record setting. You know,
Speaker 3: I was thirty eight million people watching the game. And
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Speaker 3: and people say social Medusa, Oh Tommy DeVito versus cover,
Speaker 3: this is what America wants.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what America watched it. America watched a
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Speaker 2: Is he here? Yes?
Speaker 6: He was?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, okay, okay, Chris, what is jelly Roll saying?
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Speaker 2: So give us a song, Chris, I can't do it
Speaker 2: on this. We have to we get like well the
Speaker 2: one he did.
Speaker 10: I mean, you guys are putting me on the spot, and.
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine. I like his songs. I just
Speaker 2: don't delegation due.
Speaker 10: You saved the one that he did was you saved me.
Speaker 10: I believe that's what the name of the The biggest
Speaker 10: thing about him was he was locked up for like
Speaker 10: like nine years and did a lot of music himself,
Speaker 10: and when he got out he changed his life around.
Speaker 2: So in jail writing music exactly like a real life
Speaker 2: hustling flow some another shout out the jelly roll man. Hey,
Speaker 2: hey man, it is what it is. By the way,
Speaker 2: we talked about this in the topics. Is Philly the
Speaker 2: best team in the NFC?
Speaker 4: I know one, Do you think that I do not
Speaker 4: what you're thinking, Well, I mean you you've seen and
Speaker 4: I'm just comparing them to Detroit right now. Detroit, to me,
Speaker 4: their offense in Philly's offense is running very efficiently. And
Speaker 4: I'm just and I'm gonna say on Detroit side, they
Speaker 4: definitely don't have the weapons that they have on the
Speaker 4: outside on Philly. And right now they're playing with playing
Speaker 4: without DeVante with the hamstring injury, but they are still
Speaker 4: looking very efficient offensively. I think the difference is where
Speaker 4: I'm saying, this is what defense, what Philly is doing
Speaker 4: upfront defensively.
Speaker 2: They got smatched. They are coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is like your quarterback better have
Speaker 4: his head on the swivel because Jalen Carter and company.
Speaker 4: These guys are coming up big. And the linebackers. I mean,
Speaker 4: you had Nakobe Dean, you had kind of question marks
Speaker 4: around him. But I think that defense man is playing
Speaker 4: really good. That defensive coordinator is calling the game's lights out.
Speaker 4: And that's what I think separates them from Detroit. In
Speaker 4: my mind, they are the best, I think, the other
Speaker 4: best team in the NFC. Yeah, what about you knew
Speaker 4: what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: Detroit, Detroit. So you talk about the d line and
Speaker 2: they're good.
Speaker 3: This offensive line of handling, this offen line of good,
Speaker 3: This best offensive line in the game, think handling.
Speaker 2: They can run the ball.
Speaker 3: They get out there in this right now at eleven
Speaker 3: and one versus ten and two, Philly, you go have
Speaker 3: this game in four field.
Speaker 2: They will be rocking and ready for this. They will
Speaker 2: be as.
Speaker 3: Fired up as they once were back in nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: one the Pontac Silver then when the Cowboys came out there,
Speaker 3: they will be loaded up for a playoff game. Give
Speaker 3: me give me Detroit at home with this offensive line
Speaker 3: to get it done in the close football game.
Speaker 2: That's separator for you. The offensive line is a separated
Speaker 2: The offensive line in the whole field of bandings that
Speaker 2: I believe Detroit will.
Speaker 3: Get if they play at home, it will be tough
Speaker 3: for phillip They do have to go up to Detroit
Speaker 3: and play that.
Speaker 2: But to me, I'm what you heck. When you look
Speaker 2: at that defensive line.
Speaker 3: For the Philadelphia Eagles, it's hard to match up against them.
Speaker 3: You got Jalen Carter, who's on the inside, but you
Speaker 3: saw him running down Lamar Jackson yesterday's contest. They got
Speaker 3: the players on the outside that can lock up receivers.
Speaker 3: You got the young rookie from Toledo shout out to Toledo,
Speaker 3: Quentin Mitchell, and uh, what's what's the one.
Speaker 2: Guy from Iowa, the nickel white guy. He's balling. Good player,
Speaker 2: he's balling Cooper, He's balling out there.
Speaker 3: The secondary as a whole was nice defensive leaders.
Speaker 2: You can't match up with him. You can't match up
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 3: And yes, Detroit has a good offensive line, but if
Speaker 3: they're getting after you know, golf out there, he's turned
Speaker 3: off a problem. My line can control your line.
Speaker 2: Detroit offensively, though, this is an issue. That's the yes.
Speaker 2: Is the Bears down what twenty some points?
Speaker 3: March all the way back and if it wasn't for
Speaker 3: you know, a little mishap at the end, game would
Speaker 3: have went to the old team.
Speaker 2: You're telling me, dog team can't can't do it, Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: Just do it out there we're about to see.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, man, that's that's gonna be a tough match,
Speaker 3: and that's hard.
Speaker 2: For me to say.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to say that Philly is the
Speaker 4: best team in the NFC, and don't.
Speaker 2: I just did because.
Speaker 4: It's the truth, is true, all it is, and your
Speaker 4: bearing witness to it each and every Sunday. The way
Speaker 4: that they're gutting out victories. I mean, it may not
Speaker 4: have been a two hundred yard performance from sa Quan,
Speaker 4: but still those I mean, he's moving the change, thirty one,
Speaker 4: thirty thirty five, it don't matter. You can see, you
Speaker 4: can find him in the passing game. He's doing a
Speaker 4: bang up job blocking as well. And then it's like
Speaker 4: for me, it's for Jalen hurts Is. Don't put him
Speaker 4: in a situation to be more than what he is.
Speaker 4: Don't don't have it for me if I'm killing more, man,
Speaker 4: don't make this guy throw the ball thirty eight times.
Speaker 4: He don't don't put him, don't put him in that situation.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that, you know, I call him
Speaker 4: prop though, but you know what I'm saying, that is
Speaker 4: not blue bag.
Speaker 2: He's gonna do.
Speaker 4: But if you make him play within his wheelhouse and
Speaker 4: he can make those smart throws and oh, by the way,
Speaker 4: when everybody's concentrating on the running back, don't forget about
Speaker 4: number one because he's gonna move the change as well.
Speaker 4: And that's what makes that team that man, they have
Speaker 4: so many different you know, there are three four five
Speaker 4: headed monster over there.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: So they have lost to the Falcons and the Buccaneers,
Speaker 3: Leagles and oh, Kirk Cousin, yesterday he got dag mixed
Speaker 3: picks in the last two or three games up in there.
Speaker 2: You're still in it. You're still in it. So they're now.
Speaker 3: Ain't helping him either, and you you were correct, but
Speaker 3: but still, man, I mean, yesterday you had a shot
Speaker 3: and you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: Serving them up. He's serving up turnovers, man.
Speaker 4: But but we know, I mean, how many times in
Speaker 4: his career we see on a random Sunday night Sunday afternoon.
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Speaker 3: in Chicago Bears and on Thanksgiving when the whole the
Speaker 3: whole national audience is watching that eating it for the
Speaker 3: early eaters.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to watch the game.
Speaker 3: The Bears were down and they come back and then
Speaker 3: they had a shot at the end, and you know
Speaker 3: it was just when you hear the prices right music
Speaker 3: at the is a clock run.
Speaker 2: Out ad thirty two seconds, thirty two and a time out.
Speaker 2: He went home with that time out. You get home.
Speaker 2: That was bad.
Speaker 3: So you asked the question, Okay, who you got that
Speaker 3: coach or the quarterback in that situation? Thirty two seconds left?
Speaker 3: What was they on like the fifty or the fourth?
Speaker 3: They was in Detroit territory. I federal if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna to me Cayleb Williams being out
Speaker 4: there understands what he's dealing with.
Speaker 2: At least take the time out.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just I'm gonna put that on him
Speaker 4: because he's in the middle of it. But when that
Speaker 4: when I saw five seconds and that they count all
Speaker 4: the way down to.
Speaker 2: Zero, I said, they are firing him.
Speaker 4: They are firing That was it. There's there is no
Speaker 4: worst clock management.
Speaker 2: You think about it.
Speaker 4: In the NFL, in those last few seconds, most of
Speaker 4: the time, the coach does not have a timeout. You're
Speaker 4: you're saying, all right, get the ball to the sideline
Speaker 4: or at least clock it just as far as something,
Speaker 4: give yourself a chance, But you don't have a timeout
Speaker 4: to go home with that timeout with thirty two seconds,
Speaker 4: that is that's on. That's that's that's bad, and that
Speaker 4: means no practice. It's gonna get you yanked it.
Speaker 2: The forty one forty one is where Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yeah they got the ball to the third and twenty
Speaker 3: six forty one, So yeah, they had a second and
Speaker 3: ten with forty forty three seconds ago, second and ten
Speaker 3: in the Detroit twenty five. Then it was second and
Speaker 3: twenty the Detroit thirty five with thirty six seconds ago,
Speaker 3: and then with six seconds it was third and twenty
Speaker 3: six and forty one. Now, this is just my opinion
Speaker 3: on that. I thought it was on the coach. He's
Speaker 3: still a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2: Call the time out.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's make sure we understand. Like I'm gonna help
Speaker 3: make sure you understand what it is we're going to do.
Speaker 2: I don't want to trust a rookie. I'm you to coach,
Speaker 2: you the coach. Heck me, you're right.
Speaker 3: Hey, your a quarterback, you've done this before. You're you're
Speaker 3: you're the first overall pick. But I don't want to
Speaker 3: trust anybody because par sales have great lices. I never
Speaker 3: trust the players every time. So I'm gonna call the
Speaker 3: time out. Caleb, everybody, man, just what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: This what we're gonna do? Okay, no more time outs
Speaker 3: out there? We would this will go do go, go,
Speaker 3: go get it done. That's what should happen. Then you
Speaker 3: add that along with the embarrassing loss to Washington.
Speaker 2: Your man's out here playing swag surface. He was out there,
Speaker 2: ball snapped.
Speaker 3: He looking at the stands, swagged out.
Speaker 2: Can't look at me.
Speaker 3: And after the Thanksgiving Day loss twenty three to twenty
Speaker 3: to the lines, Kenyan out said, I thought the players did.
Speaker 2: Enough to win the game too.
Speaker 3: It's those underlying shots that will get you, man, each
Speaker 3: and every time. When the players, especially one of your
Speaker 3: top players like Keithan Allen Vettna's league been touring it all. Well,
Speaker 3: he's throwing shots at you. It's it's almost that's where
Speaker 3: that's where it starts.
Speaker 4: It starts there because guys have played enough football to
Speaker 4: understand that you don't you don't make you don't make
Speaker 4: mistakes like that.
Speaker 2: And when evil flew.
Speaker 4: I mean, you go all the way through a lot
Speaker 4: of the court, a lot of the head coaches you
Speaker 4: got and and the Chargers last year when he got dismissed,
Speaker 4: it was for reasons like this.
Speaker 2: It was for reasons like this.
Speaker 4: I mean, And how many times have these type of
Speaker 4: coaches gotten their quarterback have saved their job that come in.
Speaker 4: It's given the organization of enough juice that you will say, well,
Speaker 4: let's wave one more year to see how this pans out.
Speaker 4: When you make a mistakes like that, it was you're done.
Speaker 3: The word is malpractice, Yeah, that's done. You heard Jimmy
Speaker 3: Johnson talk about he heard JJ White. There were enough
Speaker 3: commentators of people out to say this was coaching malpractice.
Speaker 2: And heck, I go back to what.
Speaker 3: You were saying is my Bear friends grandparents for Chicago,
Speaker 3: so family, and their whole thing was we could have
Speaker 3: had Jim Harball, you know, former former Bear player, a
Speaker 3: guy who was looking to leave me the last two years.
Speaker 3: Jim Harborugh was trying to get out of Michigan an
Speaker 3: interview for jobs that people didn't hire. And so basically
Speaker 3: what you said, the Bears decide, nah, nah, we're gonna
Speaker 3: go with this Eberflus thing one more time, and they
Speaker 3: could have had Jim Harball.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, with Caleb Williams coming in, that's the thing that
Speaker 3: for me that I'm like, wait a minute, if I'm
Speaker 3: going to have Caleb Williams in here, and I can
Speaker 3: have Jim Harball, a guy who's proven that he can
Speaker 3: work with quarterbacks and he's from the fans Jim Harbor
Speaker 3: to Big ten guys just won a national champion. I mean,
Speaker 3: the amount of teams who did not go get Jim
Speaker 3: Harbor is amazing to me. Could have had Jim Harbor,
Speaker 3: that's that's that's that to me is kind of shocking.
Speaker 3: But I'll say this, Remember now, you had a bunch
Speaker 3: of people saying, well, Jim's hard to work with, we
Speaker 3: don't know kind of some of the similar things we're
Speaker 3: here about Belicheck.
Speaker 4: Right now, that's never stopped any organizations before. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, there's a lot of guys to get the
Speaker 4: difficult to work with tag and still get jobs because
Speaker 4: they approven commodity.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't working for him man for two years.
Speaker 3: I mean, Carolina didn't want it. We're gonna go with
Speaker 3: Dad Canals.
Speaker 4: I mean look at the look yeah, I mean, look
Speaker 4: at the leadership and the two the organizations that you're
Speaker 4: talking about and talking about much winning they've done.
Speaker 3: Atlanta said no, you know, Chicago, now we're gonna run
Speaker 3: with it. We don't run his back. I mean the Raiders.
Speaker 2: No, we got Antonio Pierce. We're good. Jim. That was
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: So so I would just me I would venture to
Speaker 3: say Hardball, who was a Raider between Chicago and and Vegas,
Speaker 3: would have taken those two over the Chargers. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: that's what he would have done. I know, the better
Speaker 3: quarterback was of the Chargers. But then again, you had
Speaker 3: you had Caleb Williams coming to Chicago, so you would
Speaker 3: have had that, and then you've got the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Are the Raiders.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd rather coach the Raiders and the Chargers
Speaker 3: from the standpoint of there's more of a fan base.
Speaker 3: And but he had no affiliate with the Chargers. He
Speaker 3: had an affiliation with the Raiders and the Bears. You
Speaker 3: think these teams put too much emphasis on you know,
Speaker 3: offensive gurus, and you gotta be putting up all these
Speaker 3: points instead of guys that can actually lead men in
Speaker 3: the building.
Speaker 2: Like that's what I've seen in the past couple of years.
Speaker 3: It's like we got to get the new hotness on offense,
Speaker 3: but then your player, your players, and your whole team
Speaker 3: is just undisciplined out the penalties left and right, bad
Speaker 3: clock management, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: When you should have a head coach that you.
Speaker 3: Know, delegates offense to this guy defense, he should be
Speaker 3: leading the team, He should be a leader of men.
Speaker 2: You just don't see that too much of those type
Speaker 2: of coaches anymore.
Speaker 4: That's why names like you know, Mike Rabel and guys
Speaker 4: like that, their names always come up to the top
Speaker 4: of the charts when you start talking about guys who
Speaker 4: are next to hire because of their ability to lead
Speaker 4: and some of these other other you coordinators that you've
Speaker 4: mentioned in the past, like their ability to lead men.
Speaker 4: Will they buy into that you being a formal player,
Speaker 4: Like will guys buy into a guy that's not a
Speaker 4: proven commodity? You have these boy geniuses, as they put
Speaker 4: the title on them offensively that come up get opportunities
Speaker 4: are from a certain coaching tree that have some success,
Speaker 4: But then you have others like there hasn't been any
Speaker 4: infusion of new blood into the coaching community as of late.
Speaker 4: It's been a lot of old, recycled names and guys
Speaker 4: coming up. Even looking at Cincinnati's coach, I mean, if
Speaker 4: it were not for their quarterback changing things for him,
Speaker 4: he might he might be one of those on the street,
Speaker 4: be one of those names. And look, you look at
Speaker 4: ebra Flus, So you look at Chicago in general, man,
Speaker 4: like they've had so many things that they've done through
Speaker 4: the draft, not getting the quart, how many times that
Speaker 4: they had a first round quarterback, not paying out not
Speaker 4: work for them and have to be set back. And
Speaker 4: then Kayleb Wibbs walks right into this night mare when
Speaker 4: when a team quits on you when you like you
Speaker 4: said that underlying hate, that's your team basically saying we
Speaker 4: don't believe in this guy, We don't believe, we don't
Speaker 4: believe in nothing. You about the call for us defensively either,
Speaker 4: because now this vaunted so good defense is struggling also,
Speaker 4: So I mean, what Chicago does in the future with
Speaker 4: with that first round draft with Kayla Williams. It's going
Speaker 4: to be very telling about what they think about him,
Speaker 4: you know, as far as building up this team in organization,
Speaker 4: because everybody's still gonna believe in Caleb until they show,
Speaker 4: until he shows him otherwise he's struggling right now.
Speaker 2: So I go back into this, we talk about leaders
Speaker 2: and men.
Speaker 9: And.
Speaker 3: One guy who I feel so strongly about who got,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, screwed was Rich When Rich Pisatia took
Speaker 3: over for John Gruden when they abruptly fired him, and
Speaker 3: took the took them to the playoffs and performed admirably.
Speaker 3: The Raiders decided to go hire Josh mcgamons.
Speaker 4: We just call it what it is. We just call
Speaker 4: it what it is. Why can't we just call it
Speaker 4: dumb move? A dumb move has a dumb move.
Speaker 3: So you so to me, you went out rehired the
Speaker 3: same thing you got rid of John Ruden to go
Speaker 3: out here jumping the fire with another dude less of
Speaker 3: a resume. And so you went out there and you
Speaker 3: did that. And meanwhile, here's Rich Passacia doing this thing
Speaker 3: up in Green Bay, still leading men special teams coach,
Speaker 3: and heck, I don't know if he got a chance
Speaker 3: to be around. I mean, he just so so you've
Speaker 3: been you see what kind of guy, dude. I remember
Speaker 3: one day, man, this is we were at training camp. Dude,
Speaker 3: start dropping black history knowledge on us besides you, yes, yes, oh, Rich, yes,
Speaker 3: start going out here talking to us about Will's reed
Speaker 3: and just anyway.
Speaker 2: He touched every you've seen it before.
Speaker 3: This is the kind of This is the kind of
Speaker 3: guy that these owners will not hire because they keep
Speaker 3: on to do this. And you know, having been around
Speaker 3: Matt Eberflus and been around Rich Pisachia, the Bears would
Speaker 3: have been far better off hiring someone like Rich Pisidia,
Speaker 3: who showed you in the midst of what happened with
Speaker 3: John Gruen that he could still lead a team. That
Speaker 3: to me is mind boggling about what they're doing in
Speaker 3: the National Football League. Go find leaders of men. You
Speaker 3: got look at some of the best coaches out here
Speaker 3: of all time who've been special teams. Got who coached
Speaker 3: special John Harbaugh, Dick Vermeil was the first ever special
Speaker 3: teams coach in the NFL. Bill Belichick was a special
Speaker 3: teams coach. These guys who touch everyone, because that's what
Speaker 3: the special team coaches, they or they truly do know
Speaker 3: the team. They know the team and they know the
Speaker 3: They also interact with a lot of the those players
Speaker 3: that you needed at the bottom of the bottom.
Speaker 2: The bottom of the roster.
Speaker 3: So they're learning how to coach the guys here at
Speaker 3: the bottom they can as of course the God's top anyway,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's tough man.
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