Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Busting with
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Speaker 1: We have a very long podcast for you guys today
Speaker 1: and honestly, we want to stop it three or four times,
Speaker 1: but truly. It was an incredible podcast. We had Josh
Speaker 1: Dobbs on. We spoke about football, We spoke about football,
Speaker 1: We spoke about football, We spoke about the Jacksonville, about
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game that just happened, some decisions that he
Speaker 1: should or should not have made. Did he know his
Speaker 1: third down? Did you think? Did he know was fourth down?
Speaker 1: Did you think it was third down?
Speaker 3: The lockdown?
Speaker 1: Why the checkdown? Was that a forward pass? We talked
Speaker 1: about his past at Tennessee. Jack McPherson had an incredible
Speaker 1: question for him late in the podcast, real real late,
Speaker 1: but he came in with a Haymaker of a question.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Man's an astrophysicist, is he true?
Speaker 2: He's a rocket science He's a rocket science certified rocket
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Speaker 1: He started talking like literally, We like, well, was like,
Speaker 1: what else should we talk about? Oh, rocket scientists? And
Speaker 1: he started laying down information using words that I have
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Speaker 3: His mouth wide open.
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Speaker 3: They were very aggressive.
Speaker 1: Now, who was on this podcast? We in real time
Speaker 1: found out about the firing of Todd Downing Keith Carter,
Speaker 1: and I believe his name is Anthony Midget. I say
Speaker 1: I believe because I literally have said sixteen words to
Speaker 1: Anthony Midget since he was on the Titans.
Speaker 2: It is Black Monday, so there's a lot of like
Speaker 2: turnover happening in the league right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that is something you will see my reaction.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react really, So that'll be
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Speaker 1: guys think. With that being said, I know it's a
Speaker 1: short intro. Is there anything you want to put down?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. We talk about a lot of
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Speaker 2: end of my host field for you, Jeff Simmons coming
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Speaker 2: than that, Bro, you covered it. You covered it well.
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: excited to be on. Yeah, I'm stoked. I'm stoked, and
Speaker 1: I'll also like everything I transpired the last three weeks,
Speaker 1: two weeks.
Speaker 4: I don't know how long it's been, like twenty days,
Speaker 4: No way, I think the game was eighteen days.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. You gotta put that mic up a
Speaker 1: little closer to your face when we do start. We're
Speaker 1: kind of rolling right now. It can be staying if
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't when you got the call. Where
Speaker 1: were you when you got the call from the Titans.
Speaker 4: So I was in the in the QB meeting after Detroit,
Speaker 4: so listen. So I woke up in Cleveland, and so,
Speaker 4: like Detroit, the clean was like two hours. So I
Speaker 4: was driving back to Cleveland on the off days just
Speaker 4: so I could sit from home bed and washed my
Speaker 4: underwear and then go back. So we played in New
Speaker 4: York on Sunday, landed, I drove back to Cleveland for
Speaker 4: the night, shipped home all my Christmas stuff, like wash
Speaker 4: my bag. I had like four pairs of sweatpants and
Speaker 4: I packed for the week and then Christmas to go home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I drove to Detroit, had practice.
Speaker 4: They went through like a full basically Wednesday, and then
Speaker 4: I was in the QB meeting afterwards, and they're like,
Speaker 4: my agent called me I practiced. I called him back.
Speaker 4: He said, I think the Titans want to sign you.
Speaker 4: And he's like, all right, this could be one of
Speaker 4: those things where they call and like nothing happens, or
Speaker 4: it could happen fast, so just keep your phone on you.
Speaker 4: So going back to the meeting, sat there with phone
Speaker 4: on silent, and then it starts buzzing.
Speaker 1: So it's my agent calling. Said, yeah, they want to
Speaker 1: sign you.
Speaker 4: And then Ryan called, and then I walked back in
Speaker 4: the room and said, yo, I got a fight to
Speaker 4: catch at eight fifteen.
Speaker 1: No way, is there a team meeting or what meeting?
Speaker 1: Was the quarterback meeting meeting? Yeah, quarterback meeting. Whilli was
Speaker 1: officially on the bus those of you. Yeah, we just started,
Speaker 1: I mean talking, and then I saw the numbers rolling,
Speaker 1: so I thought we might as well just get going.
Speaker 1: My man, my man's in Cleveland, so I'm assuming you
Speaker 1: live in Cleveland full time.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean no, no, no, no, no, I'll come like
Speaker 4: a nomad, like a one make Nashville home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I started just talking about I just have an apartment
Speaker 4: up there. I just had it through the season ends
Speaker 4: in February, and.
Speaker 1: You were driving from Cleveland to Detroit. Driving from Cleveland
Speaker 1: to Detroit. My man had a just packed for like
Speaker 1: the week and then Christmas and he's sitting He's sitting
Speaker 1: in meetings in Detroit. He during practice gets a call
Speaker 1: from his agent. Agent calls his agent back. He's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Titans might want to sign you, but you don't know,
Speaker 1: like it might be one of those things who knows
Speaker 1: what's going on. Right He's sitting in a meeting, his
Speaker 1: phone starts going off. He picks up the phone and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, they definitely want to sign you. And
Speaker 1: then he gets on the phone with R. C Ryan
Speaker 1: Cowden and then that's where we're at right now. So
Speaker 1: he said, hey, you walk, So you walk back in
Speaker 1: the meeting and you're like, I gotta go.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, He's like, there's an eighth fifteen flight.
Speaker 4: Can you make it. It's like six o'clock yeah, in Detroit.
Speaker 4: And they're like, we want you to dress on Saturday.
Speaker 1: And it's Tuesday.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, I got think the eight fifteen flight
Speaker 4: so I can get there at least like get a
Speaker 4: good night's sleep, like get the playbook as early as possible.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'll make it.
Speaker 4: So I went straight in the room and said, I
Speaker 4: know I've been here for two weeks, but I got
Speaker 4: a head to the airport. The Titans are shining me
Speaker 4: like shook, Jared Nate brew shook. Everyone's saying his QB room.
Speaker 4: So it was up to the OC upstairs in the
Speaker 4: GM went straight to the airport. So I'm showing like
Speaker 4: that same bag, I got like four pairs of sweatpants,
Speaker 4: two pairs.
Speaker 1: Of jeans, just dugging it, just tugging through it. Dude,
Speaker 1: dugging it. That's wild. What's the head coach's name for
Speaker 1: the lines, Dan Campbell? Dan Campbell? What was his You're
Speaker 1: only there for two weeks, but what was his vibe?
Speaker 1: Because he seems like it's awesome the football guy. He
Speaker 1: seems like, hey, people would argue, not us. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna argue this. People are saying he might be cool
Speaker 1: with the Mike Vrabel from like a from like a
Speaker 1: vibe standpoint, I.
Speaker 4: Would say they're both up there because they played, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like they get it, just like
Speaker 4: the ebbs and flows of a season, like the emotions
Speaker 4: of it as players. I came away for practice on
Speaker 4: a Wednesday late in the season, like they just get it,
Speaker 4: Like they walk the room, they get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was cool. It was like the culture of
Speaker 1: there was awesome, which is crazy to say about the Lions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the culture. I was really impressed because you know how
Speaker 1: the Lions were like when I got drafted in fourteen,
Speaker 1: they were picking at ten and I was like, fuck, dude,
Speaker 1: I do not want to go to Detroit please. I
Speaker 1: was legit, like, man, I do not want to go
Speaker 1: live back in Michigan again. I was begging not to
Speaker 1: get picked there.
Speaker 4: Well, so like just in my process, so I got
Speaker 4: released for Cleveland. Well, well we'll get into that. But
Speaker 4: like so I was like either going to go back
Speaker 4: to Cleveland. I ended up going to Denver working on
Speaker 4: Denver and then visiting Detroit and like even I was
Speaker 4: there like the night before the game, and it's like
Speaker 4: you could just feel the vibe in the building, like
Speaker 4: just like everyone around it. They just are just like
Speaker 4: focused on the right things. They have a ton of
Speaker 4: like coaches that are players, like on their whole staff, right,
Speaker 4: so they just they just get it. Like the vibe
Speaker 4: is really really good up there. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Are you are you form the playoffs?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you pumped?
Speaker 1: Got a limited Seahawks one know you're we'll come. That's
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah that was tough. When bet the bus
Speaker 1: comes back, he'll be doll then yeah, we'll cut that out.
Speaker 1: You look at that out.
Speaker 2: I didn't take my black label, my own in black
Speaker 2: label yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's not NSF certified either. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I need that performance enhancing You.
Speaker 1: Need that right now. I'm so you're you're in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You run active at Cleveland. I was the two all
Speaker 1: year in Cleveland. I want you to talk about Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to hear about Cleveland. Hear about Cleveland, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like a normal guy and then
Speaker 1: your parent. You're in the same room as a super
Speaker 1: horny guy in Cleveland. I want to find out, like
Speaker 1: how that dynamic works with you guys. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: I'm saying, hear yeah, Like did he come off that
Speaker 1: horny or you're like, oh, he might not be as
Speaker 1: horny as are saying.
Speaker 3: Oh he got the rookies and massuse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christmas, here's a massage therapist. I can't, I cannot,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't speak on that. But he's a
Speaker 1: normal dude. I like the Sean Wannson. I think at
Speaker 1: this point he's a normal one of those things you've
Speaker 1: ever met.
Speaker 3: We all got our you know.
Speaker 5: What I mean.
Speaker 1: Everyone has a horny guy ever met. There's two Mike
Speaker 1: Campanero and Rob Moojie. Those are the two horniest people
Speaker 1: I've ever met you boys, horny boys.
Speaker 3: I feel like Chase Rice would be up there. Chase Rice,
Speaker 3: he was like a horny boy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He performed in my golf tournament last year. Yeah that
Speaker 1: go back there now your head. We took them out
Speaker 1: in Knoxville after the tourney. He enjoyed the streets of Knoxville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he enjoyed the streets of Knoxville. We've got
Speaker 1: ourselves a line. Boys. He had a good time.
Speaker 3: So you're when you're.
Speaker 1: In Cleveland, you are the two in Cleveland? Are you
Speaker 1: the two up until the point that Deshaun came back? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's how it was working. Those are two until DeShawn
Speaker 1: came back. They claimed the QB.
Speaker 4: At the end of camp, so we had like three,
Speaker 4: but like four when Deshawn's coming back. So they're trying
Speaker 4: to keep the room together. They're like, if we release you,
Speaker 4: we feel like you'll clear waivers so we can like
Speaker 4: keep all four guys together.
Speaker 3: Get you beg on practice squad and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me back on practice for stuff.
Speaker 4: But I was like, all right, like if you released me,
Speaker 4: basically my season there is done. Like Deshaun's coming back
Speaker 4: and stuff. Like, shot, I'm trying to go somewhere like
Speaker 4: play and like some other situation because like every week,
Speaker 4: like you can just guys know how it is, like
Speaker 4: every week you look around, like QB goes down, something
Speaker 4: shakes up. So I was like, I want to put
Speaker 4: myself in a position where teams know, like, hey, I
Speaker 4: want to go somewhere and play, whether it's for two
Speaker 4: weeks or however it may be from the end of
Speaker 4: the season. So I'm thats why I ended up taking
Speaker 4: the visitor to Denver. Then ended up going to Detroit.
Speaker 4: Really like the culture there and like I'd been like
Speaker 4: they tried to trade for me a couple of times
Speaker 4: early in my career, so I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go there, check it out, and then should worked out
Speaker 4: where I got here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2: Outed out of signing back on practice squad with the
Speaker 2: Browns because you wanted to put it out there like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go play. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 2: in a full exactly room and look key be at
Speaker 2: the bottom exactly correct.
Speaker 4: Like I felt like, I mean, you're getting demoted and
Speaker 4: they're saying like it's not for performance, it's just for logistics,
Speaker 4: but it's like, all right, so guess how it is
Speaker 4: like in the league, you have to look out for
Speaker 4: yourself and shoot, like figure out your path in your
Speaker 4: career and try to set up an opportunity, make an
Speaker 4: opportunity for yourself if you're not just given an opportunity.
Speaker 4: So that's why I felt like, what's the best bet
Speaker 4: for me?
Speaker 1: It seems like you saying that you have to look
Speaker 1: out for yourself, Like I feel like when I first
Speaker 1: got in the league, and you might feel this way too,
Speaker 1: but when I first got in the league to now
Speaker 1: that phrase looking out for yourself has become much more
Speaker 1: vocalized throughout the league, Like people are starting to understand more,
Speaker 1: like not only in the locker room, because you know,
Speaker 1: in the locker room, guys got to look out for themselves.
Speaker 1: You got to get paid and do whatever. Sure, but
Speaker 1: like from a public perception as well, people are starting
Speaker 1: to understand that when you're in the NFL, like you
Speaker 1: might love being a part of the team, but if
Speaker 1: there's a better opportunity elsewhere, like you can't really fault
Speaker 1: the guy exactly, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like people like see that guys are
Speaker 4: their own businesses right off the field and on the field,
Speaker 4: and every situation shakes out differently, so you have to
Speaker 4: put yourself in the right position for you to succeed.
Speaker 2: And she was a business, so you have to treat
Speaker 2: it that way. Yeah, when you were in Cleveland, what's
Speaker 2: your mindset like? Like going in there knowing that you're
Speaker 2: the backup and that all the whole Deshaun Watson thing
Speaker 2: was kind of up in the what's your mentality like
Speaker 2: going into training camp and how you're gonna say it?
Speaker 3: Because I would almost think if I'm in your situation, like.
Speaker 2: You kind of feel, I would almost feel like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a play center here until he gets back. Was
Speaker 2: that kind of the mentality? Did you feel like you could, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, make something shaking training camp to where you
Speaker 2: could potentially be the guy like talk about your entire
Speaker 2: mindset while being.
Speaker 1: At it was.
Speaker 4: I mean going into the room into the year, we
Speaker 4: all knew it's gonna be interesting when you sign three
Speaker 4: brand new quarterbacks that haven't been there with the Sean
Speaker 4: Drakobe myself, so only kind of all new then. Obviously
Speaker 4: we knew how it was gonna shake out based on
Speaker 4: like other paying guys, like, hey, this is kind of
Speaker 4: the pecking order. But I mean I kind of just
Speaker 4: went in there with the mentality of, hey, just maximize
Speaker 4: my reps in camp. I might not get a lot,
Speaker 4: Like go out, have a really good preseason and then
Speaker 4: something shakes out in the season, then go out and
Speaker 4: play well and if it doesn't, you'll at least set
Speaker 4: yourself up, whether it's to be back in Cleveland or
Speaker 4: for another opportunity after. So yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 4: it was an interesting situation, a unique situation with it
Speaker 4: just the whole.
Speaker 2: Almost think too, like a decision wasn't made yet with
Speaker 2: the NFL and everything. We were like, yeah, thinking I
Speaker 2: could legit be the backup, like this could think this
Speaker 2: thing could.
Speaker 1: Be the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't know until like three weeks into camp
Speaker 4: what the NFL was going to do, so that was interesting.
Speaker 1: But you always obviously.
Speaker 4: Knew they were going to make a decision, so there
Speaker 4: would be an opportunity there. But yeah, we're just kind
Speaker 4: of working through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were when you were at Tennessee, obviously
Speaker 1: Tennis is a huge school and like you're a big
Speaker 1: name guy, like everyone knows about Josh Doobbs you go
Speaker 1: to you drafted by Pittsburgh. Correct, when you were in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: what like, how was your experience there? But like were
Speaker 1: you thinking like, all right, Ben's coming up, He's about
Speaker 1: to be done, Like I'm next in line? Were you
Speaker 1: was that like your mindset?
Speaker 4: That was definitely that was definitely the thought because they
Speaker 4: so when I got drafted there, it was Ben, Landry
Speaker 4: Jones and then myself and then those were the only
Speaker 4: three quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And so at the.
Speaker 4: Time, Ben had just in the off season been going
Speaker 4: back and forth of if he was going to retire
Speaker 4: or not, and so I was like, okay, like Ben,
Speaker 4: I know, he wants to win another Super Bowl. So
Speaker 4: we had a really good team like my rookie year
Speaker 4: and we almost won it. Yeah, so it's like we
Speaker 4: win another super Bowl and then there would be an opportunity.
Speaker 4: But Ben ended up playing for five more years, like
Speaker 4: once I got drafted, So yeah, I didn't check out
Speaker 4: the way that I foresaw it. But it was so
Speaker 4: cool like being being like working with Ben and just
Speaker 4: interest seeing how he plays the game because he plays
Speaker 4: it so much differently than a lot of quarterbacks around
Speaker 4: the league. So just learning from him being around him,
Speaker 4: We had cool relationship now, so I enjoyed my time.
Speaker 2: There is there a perception publicly a Ben that you
Speaker 2: feel like people get wrong about with his preparation and
Speaker 2: how he plays the game.
Speaker 3: You just said he plays it differently.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, you know, I think like he gets the
Speaker 4: perception of like Ben's a guy that doesn't watch film
Speaker 4: and stuff, but the stuff he does on game day,
Speaker 4: he definitely like watches film. He just doesn't do it
Speaker 4: maybe like at the complex or like right in front
Speaker 4: of your face, but when he goes home, he's definitely
Speaker 4: studying because so much of the offense was on him
Speaker 4: just to kind of freelance of the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Like pick his plays.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of times there would be no play
Speaker 4: Like Ben's calling the game on the field, and you
Speaker 4: can't do that if you're not studying, preparing, watching some
Speaker 4: type of tape to get a feel for the opponents.
Speaker 4: Those really impressive Like we will go to practice and
Speaker 4: we would call like no huddle, and you know, like
Speaker 4: you get the practice script before practice has like fifty
Speaker 4: plays or whatever's on the play. This is like for
Speaker 4: OTAs in the camp and you would get the practice script,
Speaker 4: there wouldn't be one play on it. The quarterbacks will
Speaker 4: call the entire practice. So you just get the line,
Speaker 4: you look at the situations like first and ten left hash,
Speaker 4: and you just call whatever play you want it because
Speaker 4: that's what Ben would do in the game sometimes. And
Speaker 4: so it was cool, like we're basically like a little
Speaker 4: oc calling your own plays and four So like as
Speaker 4: a rookie, you're out there calling drive and four verts
Speaker 4: every play just to find a completion, take a side.
Speaker 1: But then once you get in the.
Speaker 4: Year two, year three, you're all right, let me try
Speaker 4: to set them up, let me let me call this,
Speaker 4: let me try to throw this guy. So you get
Speaker 4: to actually like work the game and work on like
Speaker 4: being a play called.
Speaker 2: Who are you asking questions to them to kind of
Speaker 2: learn about two minute and everything else? If it's like
Speaker 2: quarterback is the kind of call their script? Are you
Speaker 2: like really asking Ben, like, Hey, what's going on in
Speaker 2: your mind? Why are you calling X, Y and Z?
Speaker 4: I would ask him a little bit, but he kind
Speaker 4: of like he doesn't really like to like talk about like.
Speaker 1: Why he does.
Speaker 4: He kind of likes to just do it. And then
Speaker 4: you can like ask him for little stuff.
Speaker 3: There's more playing chess at all time.
Speaker 1: He's just playing chess all so really he's playing multiple games.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, like okay, I'll give you a little bit,
Speaker 2: but not too much because zactly want to play as long.
Speaker 1: As exactly so I would.
Speaker 4: What were you do is like you will watch him,
Speaker 4: like he'll call a couple of plays and then it's
Speaker 4: a funny thing like some of the plays that he liked.
Speaker 4: You didn't really know if you didn't didn't like him,
Speaker 4: or like couldn't really execute him until you did it.
Speaker 4: So like he would call it play and then you
Speaker 4: would go in and because it looked cool and call
Speaker 4: it and it wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: Like I ain't ever call hi that play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, it.
Speaker 1: Was smooth, like two minute two minutes.
Speaker 4: In practice, the QB will get to call it, so
Speaker 4: you're kind of like dialing up.
Speaker 1: But you guys had like basic stuff like the Titans
Speaker 1: to be right, where you have a number system or
Speaker 1: like different code names with.
Speaker 4: The number system and stuff that you could get through
Speaker 4: at tempo, but clock stop out of bounds, especially in
Speaker 4: the practice situation, like you come to huddle if you're
Speaker 4: feeling it, you could just call whatever you want and
Speaker 4: go from there.
Speaker 1: Damn, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well you get
Speaker 1: no situationally, like what the hell is going on too?
Speaker 4: You're like, well, we always were practiced that you needed
Speaker 4: a touchdown to win, so you could be aggressive at spots.
Speaker 4: But it was cool because you were put in that
Speaker 4: pressure cooker situation and it was all on you.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Like sometimes like CBS, they can get handcuffed with plays.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they oh I didn't like that play. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: then you go a pick or incomplete behind the chains.
Speaker 4: But just you picking the play, I mean you can't.
Speaker 4: There's no excuse.
Speaker 1: It's on you. Yeah, need to go out there. He
Speaker 1: feels about that. If you were to have the title
Speaker 1: of OC at Pittsburgh with them, you're like, I'm really
Speaker 1: not really, I'm not just here to watch the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd almost like cause you're you ultimately want to
Speaker 2: play into the strength of your players, Like you have
Speaker 2: somebody like Ben Roethlisberger there, he's been doing a long time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've had plenty of conversations to where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: do your thing out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it comes from like coach t just
Speaker 4: giving players that freedom. I mean they know Ben. Ben's
Speaker 4: like a point guard back there. Yeah, with the way
Speaker 4: he plays his hands.
Speaker 2: Want to just be disrespectful, like in the situation of
Speaker 2: the Tys, A Dobbs comes in and and Rage looks
Speaker 2: at uh uh Todd and it's like, hey, don't worry
Speaker 2: about calling two minute, Josh Dobbs is gonna call it.
Speaker 3: Then that's where I feel like you.
Speaker 2: You probably feel some type of way of coordinator, like
Speaker 2: fuck man, you want to Yeah, yeah, their arms crossed.
Speaker 1: I kind of just waiting to see what happens. Dude.
Speaker 2: Since we're talking about the Titans, I definitely like you
Speaker 2: signed and you're starting that week, like talk about your
Speaker 2: mental space leading up to that week because you you
Speaker 2: started twice. You started twice now like you just literally
Speaker 2: was thrown into the fire with the Tennessee Titans. Like
Speaker 2: talk about you signing, you get here, you realize, Okay,
Speaker 2: they might want to sign me to where Oh I'm
Speaker 2: the fucking guy this week.
Speaker 3: I better keep a ship going.
Speaker 1: It was well on before before you into that, did
Speaker 1: they say you were the guy right away? So they so?
Speaker 1: Because I know the leak right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the first week last week, I didn't start, but
Speaker 4: they said, we want you to dress. So I got
Speaker 4: there Wednesday morning in the game was Saturday, and they're like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna dress you as the two for the game.
Speaker 4: So it's like okay, I could play. And then the
Speaker 4: next day it was Christmas. After the game, they said, hey,
Speaker 4: can you come back early because we think we're gonna
Speaker 4: start you Thursday night against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, for sure. I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Like outside looking at right, it's a
Speaker 4: crazy situation, like, bro, you've been there like a week,
Speaker 4: like you gotta go start this game, like there's a
Speaker 4: lot of pressure behind it, all this stuff. But from
Speaker 4: like inside looking out like me, it's like to start
Speaker 4: an NFL football game.
Speaker 1: It's something we went on for six years.
Speaker 4: So for you to say, like, okay, you got five
Speaker 4: days to get ready for it, that's plenty of time,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that's that's almost a lot
Speaker 4: of time to get ready for it. To understand they
Speaker 4: play book. I might have got nothing else to do.
Speaker 4: I got one bag of clothes, you know, and nowhere
Speaker 4: to go. So it's just a tremendous opportunity, man, just
Speaker 4: to go out there play ball.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought it Obviously I expected to.
Speaker 4: Have more starts before going to my six year. But
Speaker 4: to get that opportunity to go out and play and
Speaker 4: play well and.
Speaker 1: Just embrace it. I had a lot of fun with it.
Speaker 1: On Primetime too, Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Primetime getst the Cowboys at home. I mean, there's there's
Speaker 4: there's nothing, there's nothing better than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you live for. You live for those opportunities
Speaker 1: just to go out and when you're in Nashville, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and you play at the Dallas Cowboys on primetime, there
Speaker 1: is no home game if you're in Nashville or you're
Speaker 1: in so many Cowboys fans there. Oh dude, That's how
Speaker 1: it was. My rookie Yar too, we played them. We
Speaker 1: were in silent the whole game. I mean at that
Speaker 1: point we won one game. It was like week thirteen.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, we did the same thing.
Speaker 4: We're like, let's go side and also work because we
Speaker 4: knew we're gonna play in Jacksonville is gonna be rocking anyway. Now,
Speaker 4: it might as well practice, especially but it'd be my
Speaker 4: first time doing it.
Speaker 1: You make you played well.
Speaker 2: Once you get past the first couple of plays, where
Speaker 2: were the nerves like leading up to the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're excited. You're like, You're like, you have plenty
Speaker 3: of time to get rid of for a game, like you're.
Speaker 1: You're in the book.
Speaker 3: You're in the book, You're in the book.
Speaker 2: You ready, Yeah, and then the day comes and it's
Speaker 2: a night game, so it's like, man, I got to
Speaker 2: change hotels, get in that hoyeah all day about the
Speaker 2: mindset the nerves look bit, You're like, it's fucking yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's like you you rather just wake up and play,
Speaker 4: you know, just get the one o'clock games so you
Speaker 4: don't have to sit all day because you sit in
Speaker 4: the hotel all day. You look at the game playing
Speaker 4: a thousand times, and then by the end of it,
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, what are they going. You're trying
Speaker 4: to you're trying to play the game in your head,
Speaker 4: you're trying to anticipate plays, and then sure, you haven't
Speaker 4: been out there since the preseason. So the first couple
Speaker 4: of plays, like it was moving fast, like guys were
Speaker 4: flying around.
Speaker 1: It's like you saw what coverage it they were in.
Speaker 4: But just then going out and like actually, like okay,
Speaker 4: I got catched the ball. I got to execute the
Speaker 4: play rather than just mentally executing it. It took a
Speaker 4: couple of plays just to get back in the group.
Speaker 4: But once the once I got back in the flow,
Speaker 4: it was smooth. It was just like, all right, this
Speaker 4: is just football, you know, And that's like, that's like
Speaker 4: the best thing, Like anytime you make the jump from
Speaker 4: any level, right, first time playing in high school, you know,
Speaker 4: you're nervous about the first game college. Same thing, and
Speaker 4: the same thing because you're nervous about the speed of
Speaker 4: the game. You're nervous about whatever the opposing players are.
Speaker 4: And then you get out there, it's just football game
Speaker 4: I've been playing for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it does move a lot faster. It
Speaker 1: doesn't move a lot faster. Those five days you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's playing time to get ready mentally for a game
Speaker 1: like learning to playbook. How much time did you take?
Speaker 1: And look at like the personnel because you come into
Speaker 1: your situation for you individually, is an amazing situation because
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm looking to start, I'm looking to play
Speaker 1: Tennessee gave you that and you're like, all right, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's to check that out the list. Now you look
Speaker 1: at the roster and you go, holy fuck, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of guy there's no like this is a loose term.
Speaker 1: There's nobody on the team anymore. Well, you're you're playing
Speaker 1: with guys that weren't original starters week one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So when I signed, I looked at the
Speaker 4: roster and like the first you just scroll through the ross,
Speaker 4: see who you know, Like, okay, I got to know
Speaker 4: this guy. Now I looked, I got got down and
Speaker 4: it's like injury reserved. Yeah, I was like longer than
Speaker 4: looking at the active roster like dang, there's so many
Speaker 4: guys out.
Speaker 1: So no, there's a lot of young players. I think
Speaker 1: that was like going into.
Speaker 3: A situation where they're on like three or four game
Speaker 3: losing streak.
Speaker 1: A yeah, they're what we lost seven in a row? Seven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: five at that point right, yeah, like it was four
Speaker 1: because you came in and you were sitting behind the
Speaker 1: leak when you Yeah, but go, so like how did
Speaker 1: you work through that process? You give a couple of
Speaker 1: receivers and be like listen, like you like a Robert
Speaker 1: Woods is the first person that comes to mind spinning
Speaker 1: Lee for a while before he got hurt. He had
Speaker 1: four one thousand yard seasons like if without playing quarterback ever,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, I need a lifeline guy around here,
Speaker 1: like Austin Hooper, I need Robert Woods. Like were there
Speaker 1: guys who wouldn't approached. It was like this is I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck's going on, but I need
Speaker 1: to know that I need someone to bail me out
Speaker 1: once in a while. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I would just tell him just like stick with me,
Speaker 4: Like that was the biggest thing on the side.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, stick with me.
Speaker 4: I have to scramble, especially like a Woody Yeah who
Speaker 4: because I knew like those guys who played a ton
Speaker 4: of ball and so I was like, yo, just stick
Speaker 4: with me. But the crazing was so for the Thirst
Speaker 4: nine game, we didn't get any live reps in practice.
Speaker 1: Because it was a short week like walk through. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, which is fantastic late in the year, but
Speaker 1: if you're just coming into it, you're like, bro, I
Speaker 1: could use the little speed some of the throws in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: That was like the first time I'd ever thrown that
Speaker 4: route to the to the receiver live like we threw
Speaker 4: try to throw trailer and strike. It was about a
Speaker 4: foot behind him, Like it was like back hip. I
Speaker 4: was like, that's the first live strike route I've thrown
Speaker 4: to him in my life. Yeah, we're throwing it like
Speaker 4: thirty seven, you know, in the middle third quarter, a
Speaker 4: huge play. So it was like little things like that
Speaker 4: that you had to work through. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 4: crazy process.
Speaker 2: What's it meant for you to get that opportunity after
Speaker 2: waiting patiently for six years?
Speaker 1: It was some of that.
Speaker 3: You've had such a.
Speaker 2: Lot of pivots along the way, like being drafted by Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: getting traded, being cut, being on practice squad, being on
Speaker 2: IR Like, You've had a lot of different situations come about.
Speaker 2: Then you go on practice squad for a couple weeks
Speaker 2: with Detroit, you get a call, Oh shit, I'm going
Speaker 2: to Tennessee. You're dressing that week, and then you're starting
Speaker 2: these last two games, Like what does that meant to you?
Speaker 3: Like, with all the time that's gone by in your career.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was awesome in the world, you know, I wish
Speaker 4: obviously the result of it of the two stars was
Speaker 4: a little different, but just to be out there and play,
Speaker 4: It's like I tell everyone this everyone's asking me, like,
Speaker 4: what is it like, because people, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're a backup cord and lead.
Speaker 1: That's like the easiest job in the world. You're just chilling,
Speaker 1: like watching other people play is largely thought of. I
Speaker 1: think that right now what I'm ready for you to
Speaker 1: change my mind Every year I'm like, yo, you're fucking
Speaker 1: living the dream. Win a couple of games a year
Speaker 1: and then yeah, exactly, Middle Reliever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I told him, is like it was
Speaker 4: like in high school you have like the biggest tests
Speaker 4: of your life, especially like before you first start, you
Speaker 4: have the biggest EPs of your life. It's basically I
Speaker 4: got to decide if you get to go on and
Speaker 4: do everything you want in this world or not? Right,
Speaker 4: And so you prepare every single week, and you know
Speaker 4: that test is going to come on Friday. So every
Speaker 4: single week Monday, you can wake up, you prepare for
Speaker 4: the test Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, got the butterflies in your stomach,
Speaker 4: and you wake up Friday and you don't take the test,
Speaker 4: and then you do it again next week, and you
Speaker 4: do it again next week.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, next week, and then for me test? What
Speaker 1: the talking about it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: To me.
Speaker 1: Like you fround it all together. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: that's a good fucking point.
Speaker 4: And for me, I've done that for six years. I
Speaker 4: mean like every Frida there is a test. I just
Speaker 4: never know when wanna take it. And so like that's
Speaker 4: the biggest sound whe remind myself. It is like you
Speaker 4: don't know where you're gonna take the test, but you'll
Speaker 4: do yourself a disservice if you're not ready to take
Speaker 4: that test. So every single week I with prepares the
Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna take the test, and I take
Speaker 4: the test, hit reset. Some weeks are tougher than others,
Speaker 4: but just keep pushing forward and shoot look up whenever,
Speaker 4: whenever the test is done and succeed.
Speaker 3: So so it is easy.
Speaker 2: No, it's not easy, but shitty being like shitty being
Speaker 2: a backup, and you got to do that every week
Speaker 2: and you're like you're dressed and everything, like, man, I
Speaker 2: gotta be ready.
Speaker 1: You're so hyped up?
Speaker 3: Ready can you get hyped up?
Speaker 1: Like it's because listen listening to you and that whole
Speaker 1: thing right there, Like obviously you saw my mind get blown.
Speaker 1: I was a vocal about it. But if six years
Speaker 1: and you're studying for a test every single week, and
Speaker 1: then that last like eventually once in a while you're like, fuck,
Speaker 1: did this test ain't coming this way? Like I got
Speaker 1: like if you're behind Ben right, dude's been playing forever.
Speaker 1: He's like he's a statue in there, but he gets
Speaker 1: the ballut relatively fast and he could take some hits.
Speaker 1: There's got to be a level of being like, all right,
Speaker 1: maybe this I'm good this week.
Speaker 4: All up, this defensive line is not good. That the
Speaker 4: quarterback like that you do that. Second you do that,
Speaker 4: you're thrown in there. So like, for instance, so second
Speaker 4: everyone's back and I've been we'd be sitting there and
Speaker 4: we're playing the.
Speaker 1: Ravens, like late in the season.
Speaker 4: It's cold, you're staying standing in Baltimore in the middle
Speaker 4: of December for three hours, and I was already standing there.
Speaker 4: It's probably it's like the fourth quarter, we're up to
Speaker 4: like five points, we're coming out. I was like first
Speaker 4: and fifteen, I'm like all right, like Ben got this,
Speaker 4: like the game's over, Like I have my beanie on.
Speaker 4: I was not chilling, like I was still in the game,
Speaker 4: but it was like, but you're chilling. Yeah, you're you're
Speaker 4: sitting there like, yeah, game's over.
Speaker 1: We're good. Then goes to scramble. They were in like
Speaker 1: pee Tampa two.
Speaker 4: Then goes to scramble and the three technique like falls
Speaker 4: on him and he's just like laying on the ground,
Speaker 4: just out And in my head, I'm like this man
Speaker 4: like just passed out on the field. So then like
Speaker 4: that's when stomach drops. Sorry, get the helmet, like warm up,
Speaker 4: you haven't thrown and pregame warm ups. We go out there,
Speaker 4: it's like first and fifteen, second, fifteen. Coach he's like,
Speaker 4: throw the deep over. They haven't covered it all day.
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I thought we were just gonna hand
Speaker 4: it off. You're coming out of the end zone, crowds
Speaker 4: going rout wild something quick exactly.
Speaker 1: So and then that was like my that was my
Speaker 1: first play in the league.
Speaker 4: So threw over to Juju and then I go, okay,
Speaker 4: I can do this, and then Ben walks back on
Speaker 4: the field. He's fine, he shook it off. He just
Speaker 4: got the wind knock out of him. But like all
Speaker 4: that to say was I was staying on the sideline
Speaker 4: five minutes before that, Like to your point, just they're
Speaker 4: like like okay, like I'm not playing today, like the
Speaker 4: game's over, and then the second you like seek that
Speaker 4: comfort and you sit down, boom, you're thrown in there.
Speaker 4: So I just like examples like data have occurred throughout
Speaker 4: my career that I tried not to catch myself, like
Speaker 4: in that role where it's like, oh, it's over. You know,
Speaker 4: just always just finding ways to whether it's not a
Speaker 4: routine or whether it's just the process of game prepared,
Speaker 4: just to stay locked in because as I said, you
Speaker 4: just do yourself with discredit if you're not ready for
Speaker 4: the opportunity, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, yeah, yeah, because there are definitely times where
Speaker 2: you think you do think that way, especially depending how
Speaker 2: long the season has been too, because in the beginning
Speaker 2: seas you're kind of like you never know could have
Speaker 2: been some of the coaches tell you I don't know
Speaker 2: about for quarterback, but like linebacker, like oh you will
Speaker 2: get you in here x y Z blah bah blah.
Speaker 2: But there are definitely times where you can get in
Speaker 2: some lulls of thinking about it. But he's right, like
Speaker 2: the minute it does happen, anxiety that prepared you're because
Speaker 2: that that week where I had got cutting and brought
Speaker 2: back on practice squad and we were playing the Ravens.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I was a little bit nervous because.
Speaker 1: I, man, what team is this? The Titans?
Speaker 3: This was the Titans.
Speaker 1: This is a twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: This is the second thin with the Titans, twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, man, you know, I hope
Speaker 2: I don't have to go in there like I'm you know, really.
Speaker 1: That's a tough mindset too, right, right, I hope I
Speaker 1: don't have to go in there.
Speaker 3: Like I've been on practice squad this entire week.
Speaker 2: They're just now telling me that I could play the
Speaker 2: I'm going to back up in the game, so Friday
Speaker 2: or Saturday whenever they're doing and all the walk through stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm just behind uh Rashawan and Jayon just kind of
Speaker 2: shadowing them because you know, it's Lamar Jackson. There's some
Speaker 2: wrinkles in their run game and pass game that it's
Speaker 2: like you can't just go in there with a dropback quarterback.
Speaker 2: You feel a lot more comfortable coming off like a
Speaker 2: practice squad situation. You're like, Okay, a lot of this
Speaker 2: stuff is real general concepts that everybody kind of has. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but the Ravens for whatever reason they got they got it.
Speaker 2: It's like a different game plan that week. So since
Speaker 2: I've been on practice squad that whole week, and then
Speaker 2: they tell me like, hey, you could, You're we're gonna
Speaker 2: activate you a practice squad after just getting cut. You're
Speaker 2: just like, okay, well let me stand because I was
Speaker 2: a little bit nervous. And that was the game. Jay
Speaker 2: On fucking fucked up his elbow.
Speaker 3: It was terrible.
Speaker 1: Then God he was wearing long sleeves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally I was in there. I was like,
Speaker 2: thank god, I was going through just the walks through
Speaker 2: some everything like that process. It always comes when you're
Speaker 2: just not You're like the most unprepared and you have
Speaker 2: like a type of anxiety of like man By going
Speaker 2: in and looks stupid, like it's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Lamar does make people look stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think of Lamar when he sees jam And
Speaker 1: go down, who's a very athletic linebacker, and then you
Speaker 1: walk out white. He always sees the white guy.
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, he doesn't work out for him.
Speaker 1: But a white linebacker, a black linebacker goes out and
Speaker 1: then a white light of recomenc he goes, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I'm running off that guy.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is try being a white man chasing
Speaker 2: the tackle, Lamar Jackson in this league, what can happen?
Speaker 1: Your only hope is making go east and west. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, please, dog, cavalry in here exactly.
Speaker 3: Wait you find some time?
Speaker 7: Yeah, d.
Speaker 1: Like, all right, don't don't die out a diving board.
Speaker 1: They'll sup under myself, all everything, everything, ninety miles right.
Speaker 1: I know, dude, Lamar is impressed. I hope he gets paid.
Speaker 1: I hope he think you will for the Ravens. You
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go somewhere else. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna get paid. I don't know who
Speaker 2: knows if it's going to be the number that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the number he's wanting. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's like an irrational person or not.
Speaker 1: But I've never met him. But I think I think
Speaker 1: he'll get paid.
Speaker 3: I think, I think.
Speaker 4: But the OC's up for a job somewhere, so that
Speaker 4: might that might shake shake some things up.
Speaker 2: But I think it'll be interesting is how all the
Speaker 2: gms and owners will look at the contract situation, because
Speaker 2: I know he can he can throw the ball around,
Speaker 2: but the running game is a big part of his
Speaker 2: game and the life, the lifespan of like a running
Speaker 2: back in the league.
Speaker 3: And you can look back at.
Speaker 2: Vic and all these guys, it's just wherever they see him,
Speaker 2: like how long do we think?
Speaker 4: Exactly how long can he play at that level type
Speaker 4: of game that he plays.
Speaker 2: As another element, that element shows that like they only
Speaker 2: have so much tread on the tire because you can't
Speaker 2: have like the way Lamar plays, he loses a step.
Speaker 2: It definitely equalizes the game a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Absolutely equalizes the game. I wonder, yeah, I wonder if
Speaker 1: he is going to him on the bus. Love that
Speaker 1: Lamar's he follows you, right, Yeah, he's one of the boys.
Speaker 1: He's one of the boys.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was.
Speaker 2: I actually made that joke to try being a white
Speaker 2: on the field chasing Lamar Jackson. And it was one
Speaker 2: of those ones where it was going out there to
Speaker 2: different audiences and then people started to call me like
Speaker 2: racist and ship like that, and then Lamar comes in
Speaker 2: and laughs at and everything else.
Speaker 3: So I'm good.
Speaker 2: What if I yeah, you get one of the bros
Speaker 2: on there, like.
Speaker 1: It's that's like the old almost the equivalent of being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not racist. My best friend's black, Like you got
Speaker 1: that card right there.
Speaker 2: He comes in and says something, it's like the guy
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like this, I'm good, you saw
Speaker 1: him good.
Speaker 3: People like that. People are like the hell time you
Speaker 3: can invite to the cookout.
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, I'm I'm good.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell all my white boys, like, guys,
Speaker 2: I got plans on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, you just want to hang out? I can't,
Speaker 1: like we didn't ask you, but I'm doing. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: hope he needs to kind of be like our boy
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and kind of do like the short three
Speaker 1: year guaranteed contracts gets that gets the money bags money
Speaker 1: tipping them things up. Huh do you think he deserves it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure. I mean I was just trying to see
Speaker 1: if my boy's gonna slip get some headlines out here.
Speaker 1: We got the same agent, so my Mike, yeah, might
Speaker 1: be grinding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurt, like we were actually talking about it this morning.
Speaker 2: Like Kurt played the situation perfectly. You have to take
Speaker 2: a little risk to get to the market for sure,
Speaker 2: see what your market value is. And then that's where
Speaker 2: if you're healthy and coming out coming out looking good
Speaker 2: on scathed and free agency, you're able to leverage all
Speaker 2: of your stuff to get it might be a lower ceiling,
Speaker 2: but you'll get that fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Contract ever since, ever since, every contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, what we were in that conversation because
Speaker 1: of Jeffer Simmons. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about his
Speaker 1: fifth year auction coming up and if he's gonna, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, you know how the things, the things
Speaker 1: get crazy when your contract is up and you've played well.
Speaker 1: Like I jokingly told Jeff, hey, I know we're not
Speaker 1: the best friends. We got to fight in camp and
Speaker 1: for some reason he's never let it go since then,
Speaker 1: so like we're definitely the rocky going on. He holds
Speaker 1: a grudge of big time. I was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: want you to know, like our career is based on
Speaker 1: where you're at right now. Are identical exact same as
Speaker 1: far as accolates got. I was like, I hope to
Speaker 1: god yours end's better than mine does. But and then
Speaker 1: we had a whole conversation. You're right, you're ten loading Broton,
Speaker 1: But we had a whole conversation of like fifth year
Speaker 1: option and how that's gonna play out. He was like
Speaker 1: asking about my stuff, and it's it's crazy the stuff
Speaker 1: that he's got to go through now going into this
Speaker 1: fifth year, because not only is the fifth year, he's
Speaker 1: looking at two possible franchise tags as well, right, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna get money, but it's not like that money.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'm I'm set in long term, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: you want that, you want that contract, that says because
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, boom, he just lost a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of money that way. I'm axio to see how
Speaker 1: that plays out with the Titans.
Speaker 2: As we're just in general, we were talking about the
Speaker 2: different like mindset you can be in as a player,
Speaker 2: like once your season abruptly ends, like for Jeff, he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you saw the post game video of him
Speaker 2: like crying the locker at the locker like talking about
Speaker 2: what it means, and you can just tell, you can
Speaker 2: tell how much the game means to him. With it
Speaker 2: all right, and for somebody to shoot up his ankle
Speaker 2: the entire back half of the season to play and
Speaker 2: try to get the boys.
Speaker 3: Into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You know, as a player, you think in your mind,
Speaker 2: the logo, the team, everybody, everybody's gonna be on the
Speaker 2: same page. But the minute the season is over, you
Speaker 2: go from this pack mentality to now this individual mentality,
Speaker 2: because now it is all suddenly business, and that shooting
Speaker 2: up and that playing hurt, and that the product you
Speaker 2: end up putting on film most of the time gets
Speaker 2: used against you in negotiations.
Speaker 3: Right, just because it's strictly business.
Speaker 2: I would assume the tiers are gonna do whatever possible
Speaker 2: to retain somebody like Jeff, But a lot of guys
Speaker 2: go into thinking I was doing it the honorable way
Speaker 2: all year long, fighting for the boys, doing whatever I
Speaker 2: can to get back here, feeling the pressures of the coach,
Speaker 2: the training, sat fans, teammates, everybody, and I want to
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to. But then you turn around if
Speaker 2: you're not in a situation to have like maybe it's
Speaker 2: a leverage like Jeff has or somebody who usually it
Speaker 2: does not work out for you that way, but you think, damn,
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought if I sacrifice and did all this,
Speaker 2: you guys would take care of me.
Speaker 1: And now you're using what just happened kind of against me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't do that personal. Yeah, you can't take that.
Speaker 2: But that's that's a lot of guys that usually get
Speaker 2: that bitter, and that's you just find out the teeth
Speaker 2: of the business that way, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 3: When you're young. You're kind of like naive about it.
Speaker 2: You think college, you get your first off season, you
Speaker 2: look at a vent, You're like, oh, we get the
Speaker 2: we get the next few months off. We don't have
Speaker 2: to come back until April. And you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: and you're just you know, you're just like a puppy.
Speaker 2: You're on this four year deal. If you if you
Speaker 2: get to you know, be with the team four years,
Speaker 2: you kind of just you have no clue until you
Speaker 2: get bit in the ass with the business side and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, damn, this is how it really is.
Speaker 1: I wonder. I think it's really is going to come
Speaker 1: down to whether Jeff is on the team or not
Speaker 1: as how much like how he wants to get paid
Speaker 1: because he's extremely talented. He's a top three d tackle
Speaker 1: in the league. From I think anybody, any GM would
Speaker 1: go and say the same thing, what is look up
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's contract, because he's got the number one contract right,
Speaker 1: and it's he's that's a unique situation because Jeff has
Speaker 1: had two Pro Bowl seasons going into a contract year.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald is arguably one of the the greatest
Speaker 1: defensive players of all time, so his money is going
Speaker 1: to be crazy. Now does Jeff want to sit there
Speaker 1: and say I deserve to get paid as much or
Speaker 1: more than Aaron Donald's getting paid, because there's arguments for
Speaker 1: both sides. Jeff's younger, he's extremely disruptive, He's only getting better.
Speaker 3: How much he's a center piece you build around. He's
Speaker 3: a centerpiece.
Speaker 1: He's a centerpiece you build around. That's those words are
Speaker 1: way too small.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? What is it per year?
Speaker 1: Three years? Ninety five million? Right here, he's getting like
Speaker 1: thirty thirty something average. Because when we were talking to
Speaker 1: I was like, if they want to pay him like
Speaker 1: number one money, it's gotta be like around thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the other d tackles like in the
Speaker 2: top five get if you look up, look up the
Speaker 2: top five, top five.
Speaker 1: Gota be the Asian.
Speaker 2: Everybody negotiating on his behalf, like whether or not you
Speaker 2: believe whatever it is You're going to look at what
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's getting, because again you're making the argument that
Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial.
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 1: He tackles.
Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player who you
Speaker 2: build around on defense. Like it doesn't you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's not as good ball up, but that's still what
Speaker 2: you're gonna look to because that's what the market is
Speaker 2: at for superior defensive tackles.
Speaker 6: Four.
Speaker 2: See look, the drump from Aaron Donald down to number
Speaker 2: two is ten million dollars. Aaron Donald average per year
Speaker 2: is thirty one for one more year, one per year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Forest Buckner, it's like.
Speaker 2: Literally playing we're at the restaurant doing napkin math. It's
Speaker 2: like it looks like it could be like a twenty
Speaker 2: five a year thing. Literally, just making that up. I'm
Speaker 2: sure people use it for headlines.
Speaker 1: But franchise will get the average, right, you'll get the
Speaker 1: average on the top one, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Which is not batcause that's what they were That's what
Speaker 2: they were doing with Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4: If they would tag him every year, he would tag
Speaker 4: him every year, and then the QB market kept going
Speaker 4: up every year they make him money.
Speaker 1: He kept getting jumped like five mil.
Speaker 2: Washington offered him three years seventy five million, fifty guaranteed loosely.
Speaker 2: That's that's not like exact, and Kirk was like, why
Speaker 2: would I make that. I'm going to make fifty no
Speaker 2: matter what, I'm gonna make more than that guaranteed just
Speaker 2: in the next two off my franchise tags exactly, So
Speaker 2: you got to come more correct than that. They played
Speaker 2: with him too much. He made it all the way
Speaker 2: to a free agency. Three teams had him at like
Speaker 2: north of ninety million dollars fully guaranteed, and then you
Speaker 2: end up going with Minnesota, probably with like taking all
Speaker 2: the financials involved with taxes and everything else.
Speaker 3: Kirk, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How he ended up getting there because Jess looking at
Speaker 2: a fifth year option two tags.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I was looking at those top three tackles.
Speaker 1: It was Aaron, Donald Buckner, and then Chris Jones, both
Speaker 1: extremely talented. I wonder statistically what the difference between those
Speaker 1: those three and Jeff is, because I know I from
Speaker 1: what I've seen from Aaron or what I've heard about Aaron,
Speaker 1: is he didn't have like the best year this year
Speaker 1: compared to like his.
Speaker 3: Past all the rams went from Super Bowl to five
Speaker 3: and twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they obviously he didn't have he didn't have
Speaker 1: a great year. But that's gonna be an uphill battle
Speaker 1: for Jeff if he wants to get above Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: right there, because that's such a crazy outlier. That's like
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson for the Guards. He I think is like
Speaker 1: three four million dollars above the next highest paid guy.
Speaker 1: But how old is Jeff Jeff is fourth forty five
Speaker 1: years old. Man, Yeah, he's got and he's got he's
Speaker 1: got Aaron.
Speaker 4: Donald's on that thirty one, Like imagine Jeff at twenty seven,
Speaker 4: twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then if I'm a GM and I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna argue that point, Aaron Donald's a generational talent, generation generationals,
Speaker 1: multiple generations talent, and is arguably one of the best
Speaker 1: in the world. I think at this point, Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: at this at Jeff's point in his career, Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: already had like might have already had a defensive Play
Speaker 1: of the Year or we had like four All pros
Speaker 1: and he was like four time Pro Bowl, Like he
Speaker 1: had his resume. He his resume was just insane, and
Speaker 1: then it just kept going Yeah, Oh, it's like it's
Speaker 1: a hard argument. I hope Jeff gets that money. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, I wonder where in his point if
Speaker 1: he's gonna think of it logically. And I think if
Speaker 1: he thought about it logically and sat down with himself
Speaker 1: and his agent and his asient was completely honest with him,
Speaker 1: his agent would say, you will be a top five
Speaker 1: pig guy, but I think it'll be more in the
Speaker 1: middle range of the top five, like the three. This
Speaker 1: is me without any information trying to talk about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the real market is other than
Speaker 1: the article we just looked at. But you're thinking like
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five million dollars a year sounds like
Speaker 1: something he would look at and logic have to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll play for that.
Speaker 2: A four year hundred Yeah, I would love to see
Speaker 2: him get a three year whatever, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do that, Try to said, tell like,
Speaker 1: we all want them, we all want one of those.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys.
Speaker 2: It's like you want quarterbacks first, but you want top
Speaker 2: dogs at their positions, commanding these fully guaranteed contracts. You
Speaker 2: might sacrifice a little bit of the ceiling, but if
Speaker 2: in the if in turn, you get three years of
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal and then you're seeing the market again
Speaker 2: at twenty eight years.
Speaker 1: Old, Like that's a good position to be in, right,
Speaker 1: great be in.
Speaker 2: And you know again it's not you know, he can
Speaker 2: look at Aaron Donald's and just think like that.
Speaker 3: It's a marker for the market. It doesn't mean he
Speaker 3: thinks that's his floor.
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't mean anything other than like, hey, a
Speaker 2: top guy at this position got thirty one. He signed
Speaker 2: for it last year. We're getting all this influx of money.
Speaker 2: Who knows what that looks like capwise. That's when it
Speaker 2: comes on the agent.
Speaker 7: Say if he goes a free agency, he sees that money,
Speaker 7: he goes to free agency, he'll see a lot more
Speaker 7: than he would if he signs a year or two,
Speaker 7: or say he signed this offseason, Yeah, you would see
Speaker 7: a lot more than he would because you're.
Speaker 2: You're giving up the ability to go to free agency
Speaker 2: to sign something ahead of time. If you're gonna work
Speaker 2: with the Titans on signing something early, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to favor some things that go in the Titans way,
Speaker 2: because you that's ultimately what a hometown discount is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy to think twenty five million dollars a hometown discount, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the cap situation I think got.
Speaker 3: Him at twenty five.
Speaker 2: It almost seemed like, oh, that's that could be seen
Speaker 2: as a win. Yeah, you get Jeff Simmons locked in
Speaker 2: long term a year before his deal's up. Now it's
Speaker 2: like that would be on Jeff to think you I think,
Speaker 2: do I believe I'd stay healthy my fifthy I'll write
Speaker 2: this fifthyr option out just because I know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but louis over his head of those two franchise tags. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're looking at year seven in the league. Now
Speaker 1: he is twenty eight, he's twenty eight years old playing
Speaker 1: Now he's getting a second contract, still gonna make good money, right,
Speaker 1: Still a first round draft pick, Still been franchise tag twice.
Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't get franchise tag toys because I think
Speaker 1: it's like top five over the whole league, rights five
Speaker 1: your position. I thought the first franchise tag was at
Speaker 1: and then it levels up.
Speaker 4: No, I think tag, then transition tag, but then the
Speaker 4: two franchise, the next one first round picks a franchise
Speaker 4: you again, it just I think it goes up by
Speaker 4: a percentage, like it has to be more than that,
Speaker 4: you than the one whatever.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things in the in the Titans
Speaker 1: feature that they really got to figure out because, like
Speaker 1: I think, I think I've said this on this podcast,
Speaker 1: I think Vrabel is one of the best coaches in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but eventually, like you've got to have talent
Speaker 1: to match that coaching as well. It unfortunately showed this
Speaker 1: year because you look at the two let at least
Speaker 1: last two years. Last year we had more injuries than
Speaker 1: we did this year, but last year had more. We
Speaker 1: had we had the record. Yeah, last year we had
Speaker 1: more injuries and we were still the number one seed
Speaker 1: in the AFC. But if you look at what's the
Speaker 1: major difference between last year and this year, If you
Speaker 1: look at the ir list, the guys that played last
Speaker 1: year are now the ones that I are like, your
Speaker 1: main guys other than Derrick Henry, who was got hurt
Speaker 1: Week six of the season and was a rushing leader
Speaker 1: by three hundred yards at that point. Yeah, would have
Speaker 1: in my mind easily broken that two thousand rushing records.
Speaker 1: He got what up to sixteen hundred?
Speaker 4: Right, Oh he didn't play week seventeen, which you're talking
Speaker 4: about Derek last year, oh last year, this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's around sixteen.
Speaker 1: What do you get?
Speaker 3: What do you get the other night?
Speaker 1: Get one hundred and twenty?
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he probably might have just
Speaker 2: got sixteen hundred. He was top man going into that
Speaker 2: last game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think he's number two, right, Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs than him.
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb did. Chubb was two, Derek was three.
Speaker 1: He finished two. Man Erriican Chubb have some I have
Speaker 1: a weird whether they have a rivalry or not they
Speaker 1: have a rivalry. I think they have a little rivalry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Job is a beast to a beast. Bro around him,
Speaker 1: he assassin is he really like that he's talk He.
Speaker 4: Doesn't talk Like if you get a I mean, if
Speaker 4: you get him outside the complex hanging out, he's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Like once he stops starts talking, he's he'll be like
Speaker 4: the funniest guy in the room. But like in the
Speaker 4: complex and then on the field, you don't say a word.
Speaker 3: Business man.
Speaker 1: He scored.
Speaker 4: He like we were playing the Chargers this year, I'm
Speaker 4: blocked safety in the hole, makes a miss when it's
Speaker 4: like fifty yards for a touchdown, stiff arms Khalil Mack
Speaker 4: on the goal line, just hands the ball to the ref.
Speaker 1: And walks off the field like this guy's crazy. That's
Speaker 1: a cool that's a cool fucking deal.
Speaker 2: And me and Derek lost to Josh Jacobs though I
Speaker 2: let the league in rushing and he was somebody they
Speaker 2: didn't pick up his fifth.
Speaker 1: Year eye no, So he went in a good tweet
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: He went in this year with a massive chip on
Speaker 2: his shoulder from what I've heard.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Josh or anything, but from my
Speaker 2: understanding is they were trying to shop him for like
Speaker 2: a third round picking preseason, and he's aware.
Speaker 3: He was aware of that.
Speaker 2: So him going out and leading the league in rushing
Speaker 2: like the big middle finger to everybody, like, I'll fucking
Speaker 2: show you guys, like that's you love to see that,
Speaker 2: you hope it's like, don't take any fucking discount. It's
Speaker 2: like the mindset of Jeff, Like if Jeff's going into
Speaker 2: it like you know, then I'll put I've sacrifice all
Speaker 2: this you want to see players get paid and not
Speaker 2: have all this stuff that they've used like against you
Speaker 2: and everything else.
Speaker 3: It's always like the pro pro player mentality.
Speaker 2: It's like if he they didn't pick up his fifty
Speaker 2: or they did pick up his fifty option and he
Speaker 2: was pissed about it.
Speaker 3: It's almost like, how do you navigate those waters? Like Josh?
Speaker 3: He now gets to go taste uh running back.
Speaker 1: It's probably known in the NFL feeling better than Josh.
Speaker 1: Right now, you've got to feel good.
Speaker 2: About how the the year you just had, especially again
Speaker 2: led the league in rushing on a roster where it
Speaker 2: seemed like every position was talked about except the running back.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, we got.
Speaker 2: To get running back, but we got the dog Derek
Speaker 2: Carr with DeVante Adams, Darren Waller on a renfo all
Speaker 2: those boys, and then you kind of, you know, Josh
Speaker 2: was kind of an Actressut they don't pick up his option,
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, bird to everybody, I'm about to
Speaker 2: lead the league in rushing.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Raiders are by far the most underachieving
Speaker 1: team in the NFL this year, Oh for sure. I
Speaker 1: mean Titans are kind of there too, right, so they
Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries to hang their hat on
Speaker 1: its insurance.
Speaker 2: Not everyone, Like a lot of people were saying talking
Speaker 2: about the Raiders competing for the Super Bowl. When get there,
Speaker 2: I said, my hot take was the Chiefs weren't gonna
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I was obviously very wrong about that, but it was
Speaker 3: a tough.
Speaker 2: But again there's there's bias, like I'm rocking with the
Speaker 2: boys in silver and black, dude, and I thought this
Speaker 2: was gonna be the year.
Speaker 3: And it'll be the coolest uniforms in the league. You don't,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I still went what like five and three, I feel
Speaker 2: like on the year picking the division winners.
Speaker 3: I think like to see a better ratio.
Speaker 1: However, I had one more if Saturday worked out a
Speaker 1: little bit better.
Speaker 3: I know, Titans were one. Titans were one I picked.
Speaker 2: And there was a part of me too that was
Speaker 2: thinking about picking Jaguars at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have missed me off, right, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: who were talking about how it pissed off Peterson justin Lawrence.
Speaker 1: We said on this podcast, though, for those of you
Speaker 1: think we just joke around on this podcast, we legit
Speaker 1: have said Jacksonville is a good football team, they just
Speaker 1: need a good coach. You're welcome. We said that first.
Speaker 4: When they've had they had like three straight number one picks,
Speaker 4: Like I.
Speaker 1: Know, they really have just like holstered and their shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Doug Peterson probably was a big
Speaker 2: help like him going there for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Organization dude, Yeah, with the boys pushing the cart in
Speaker 1: the same direction.
Speaker 3: What since we're talking about mindsets too.
Speaker 2: In the season abruptly ins like where where does where
Speaker 2: does the headspace go for somebody like you in your position? Again,
Speaker 2: you come in the last three weeks of the year,
Speaker 2: season's over. You see the look on everybody's face like
Speaker 2: you're not as acclimated. And it's into all the buying
Speaker 2: that the Titans did all year long for the beack.
Speaker 2: Fuck man, we didn't get it. What's it like for
Speaker 2: you now going into the off season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when it brough abruptly ends, I mean
Speaker 4: it's just stuck. But you just like you navigate those
Speaker 4: emotions obviously I can media you are, Okay, Shoot, where
Speaker 4: am I going to be next year? I'm not going
Speaker 4: to be back here. I'm gonna be somewhere else. I'm
Speaker 4: about to live for the offseason. Is my apartment even
Speaker 4: still a thing in Cleveland?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: So just like working through it all. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: want to be back in Tennessee. Had good exit meetings,
Speaker 4: so we'll see how kind of like free agency for
Speaker 4: me shakes out.
Speaker 1: But hopefully it's back here.
Speaker 3: So you if you you're wishless, would be Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Tennessee boy for sure.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm front not from Tennessee, but played at Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Love Nashville, Nashville Rips, National's dope.
Speaker 3: In the state is like seems like they're root for
Speaker 3: you hard.
Speaker 4: For sure, and like I've enjoyed my time in the complex,
Speaker 4: Like the guys are cool, even though I gotta cross
Speaker 4: paths with him a couple of times, but everyone's everyone's
Speaker 4: pretty cool in the complex.
Speaker 1: So it's been cool. The I wonder from the outside
Speaker 1: looking at like if I was. Since I've been on
Speaker 1: IR since week too, I've like turned myself into a
Speaker 1: fan obviously, and watching Malik the first few weeks obviously
Speaker 1: it was it was tough, right, like it's I think
Speaker 1: he had eighty eight yards passing in the last game
Speaker 1: before you started, and when you came in, it was
Speaker 1: like damn, like he really out there slinging that thing,
Speaker 1: and then everything like gets in your head like damn, like, dude,
Speaker 1: been for five days, he's done that, Like he's been
Speaker 1: able to do this at this time, like you actually
Speaker 1: and a time where there was no hope for Tennessee.
Speaker 1: You look, he gave the boys hope and I thought
Speaker 1: Saturday you were going to go in there and it
Speaker 1: was going to work out. He has had it. We'll
Speaker 1: get into that game because I really, I really do
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. But what is a what
Speaker 1: what was it like with Malik? Because knowing Malie for
Speaker 1: the short time I did obviously during Camp OTA's and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Uh, get very charismatic, very energetic. Great dude.
Speaker 1: You just wonder if, like, is he a guy that
Speaker 1: can develop into something that people thought he was going
Speaker 1: to be when they're coming of Liberty before the draft
Speaker 1: saying he could be a top ten pick, or is
Speaker 1: this one of those things where it just is not
Speaker 1: It's not going to work out and that's no shot
Speaker 1: at Malik. That's more just like wondering, I guess like
Speaker 1: does he have it? And that's not for you to answer.
Speaker 1: My My question for you is like, how was the
Speaker 1: process between you two and like you quick coming in
Speaker 1: quickly changing in the.
Speaker 4: Guard, you know, it was good. I mean it was
Speaker 4: smooth as smooth as it can be. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I know obviously, you know, being his position is probably
Speaker 4: was tough on him, and I know he would love
Speaker 4: to be out there too, playing competing.
Speaker 1: But as you said, Malik is a great dude.
Speaker 4: And so Malik and I we trained with the same
Speaker 4: guy in Atlanta, so I met him this last offseason.
Speaker 4: Actually I was getting ready for the draft and stuff
Speaker 4: just in QB training and it's a small circle. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean he was still the same guy throughout the
Speaker 4: whole process, extremely positive with the players, being a great teammate.
Speaker 4: It was great to me and helping me just get acclimated.
Speaker 4: And then like little things that quarterback, Hey, what's the cadence?
Speaker 4: Was the reminder to the O line, what's the communication
Speaker 4: the huddle? Just how have you guys done it? Just
Speaker 4: to make sure we're smooth on everyone. He was awesome. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, playing quarterback in the NFL is not the
Speaker 4: easiest profession and it takes time to learn how to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 1: Took me time.
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of reps, even though i haven't
Speaker 4: played a lot, so I've had a lot of reps
Speaker 4: at doing it and watching guys do it at a
Speaker 4: high level. And so Malik will probably be the same process.
Speaker 4: But he seems like he works really hard, he wants,
Speaker 4: he wants to be successful. I think it starts there,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm excited to see how he comes back
Speaker 4: this offseason.
Speaker 2: Being a VET, if you were to give advice to
Speaker 2: a young rookie quarterback, obviously I'm saying Molik in the situation,
Speaker 2: if you're you were to give advice to a rookie
Speaker 2: quarterback going into their first offseason, what would it be.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at your career now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say one, just like take a breath,
Speaker 4: as we know that first off season. You've been going
Speaker 4: for a year and a half straight from the start
Speaker 4: of your senior year, So take a time just to
Speaker 4: take a breath and realize like how important football is
Speaker 4: to you, but also what other interests you have out
Speaker 4: there just as a human being, and just take a
Speaker 4: step back, and then from there, like February comes around.
Speaker 4: Then craft your plan of hey, what are the five
Speaker 4: things I want to get better at between now and OTAs,
Speaker 4: and work hard every day at those those things, whether
Speaker 4: it's something in the in the playbook, whether it's footwork
Speaker 4: on the field, whether it's one throw you're trying to master.
Speaker 4: But just find that rhythm, routine, consistency, because then if
Speaker 4: you find that, then once you go to OTAs, you
Speaker 4: can take that same process and then use it all
Speaker 4: the way until the season. So that's I mean, that's
Speaker 4: my biggest vice. That's what I did for myself. It
Speaker 4: took a step back, took a took a breath, figured
Speaker 4: out what I want to improve on, and then just
Speaker 4: went from there.
Speaker 2: Question for both of you guys, is there anything you
Speaker 2: guys look back on you issued a new at a
Speaker 2: younger age, like when you are navigating the first off seasons,
Speaker 2: Because I feel like a lot of guys get excited, right,
Speaker 2: they can travel, they can do a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing you say like good stuff, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: like I'm on that because it's like we can all
Speaker 2: sit here and talk about I know you both have
Speaker 2: knowledge on it, but how.
Speaker 3: Crucial routine process.
Speaker 2: All that stuff is if you're trying to be a
Speaker 2: better NFL football player at your position.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think like the people always say, like, don't take breaks,
Speaker 4: I feel like the break is really what helps you
Speaker 4: come back more uh more energized to work hard. You know,
Speaker 4: Like taking it sucks when you're done the first week
Speaker 4: of January. So taking the month just to decompress from
Speaker 4: the emotions of the season, whether you're in one spot
Speaker 4: the whole year starting or you weren't, or you were
Speaker 4: in three different spots like myself, just taking that time
Speaker 4: to decompress is so powerful, just mentally. And then when
Speaker 4: February comes, you watch the Super Bowl, You're like, that's
Speaker 4: my goal. I want to be there. And then the
Speaker 4: next week you just work hard, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 4: just get right back at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say? I think the break is
Speaker 1: a huge thing. My first couple of years, I like
Speaker 1: didn't take a break. I was like, when people are resting,
Speaker 1: this is when I'm gonna I'm gonna get them. And
Speaker 1: then you kind of realize that. You get into like
Speaker 1: late November December and you're like, damn, kind of burnt down.
Speaker 1: You don't really know why you don't like put that
Speaker 1: into in your head of like, oh, you have been
Speaker 1: working since forever, like since your senior year, and now
Speaker 1: you're in your second year. And so the when I
Speaker 1: saw the biggest jump from my success was we year
Speaker 1: two to year three, and that's when I actually took
Speaker 1: the longest break I did, which was like I think
Speaker 1: we didn't make the playoffs obviously, and then I took
Speaker 1: like three or four weeks like first of February, when
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is when we start,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's very rejuvenating. You get to like
Speaker 1: get back to neutral a little bit because you're drained, dude.
Speaker 1: The end of the season is so draining. Everything hurts always,
Speaker 1: and you're just like thinking, like, damn, I'm having to
Speaker 1: make it to this next game, right, you know, like
Speaker 1: little things because when you're out of it, like I've
Speaker 1: been out of it for so like for so long,
Speaker 1: relatively since week two. I don't have any pain in
Speaker 1: my body, like my neck doesn't hurt, but I remember
Speaker 1: being like, damn I ever felt every time my head
Speaker 1: touches something, I get a stinger like or like my
Speaker 1: ankle or whatever, and you're like, damn, this is just awful,
Speaker 1: and so you kind of forget what it feels like,
Speaker 1: and that's you're like just ready to get back into it.
Speaker 1: But if you don't take that break, then you're screwed.
Speaker 1: You kind of you put yourself in a in a deficit,
Speaker 1: like the return on investment no longer is there for
Speaker 1: you anymore after if you just keep going the whole time,
Speaker 1: you just get burnt out, right. And also, I partied
Speaker 1: a whole bunch out for my rookie years, so or
Speaker 1: you're partying the shitloading I was out in Arizona.
Speaker 3: I feel like that stuff happens.
Speaker 2: That's almost why, Like, you know why, I wanted to
Speaker 2: like raise the question in case they're having to beat
Speaker 2: There are a lot of Tier one rookies out there.
Speaker 3: I listened to this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if you're a rookie, and you were
Speaker 1: you were a drafted rookie, like a top three round
Speaker 1: draft pick, like there is you finished the season and
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I can't believe this season is over.
Speaker 1: But then in that same thought process, you're like, holy fuck,
Speaker 1: I got all this money all this time. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying you never had money, like like we
Speaker 1: all the time, or you.
Speaker 2: Didn't just have the season, but you like, like you
Speaker 2: were talking, you're training for the combine, you're going to Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're doing all the bells and every you're you're pretty
Speaker 2: much shot, you're anything. Yeah, then you get done and yes,
Speaker 2: dam I got a bank, a big account.
Speaker 1: Money in the world, in the world. What you want,
Speaker 1: you want, bro, the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened
Speaker 1: to me, or like that. I look back and I
Speaker 1: just go ooh, fuck, dude, that was tough. My rookie year.
Speaker 1: After my rookie year, the Super Bowls in Arizona, and
Speaker 1: I'm from Arizona, for those of you listening who don't know,
Speaker 1: I go back. I go to old town Scottsdale and
Speaker 1: it's a great spot. I'm a Cave Creek guy, like
Speaker 1: I'm more of like a small town kid. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking showing that ship off. I get the table.
Speaker 1: I go to l A couple of girls from high
Speaker 1: school show up. Why because they got to see they
Speaker 1: got to see that your boys made it a little day, bro.
Speaker 1: This girl I had like a bunch of money in
Speaker 1: my U in my pocket like a bunch of twenties.
Speaker 3: This girl, it's like in the air.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really him, look at this money flying
Speaker 1: through the air. Thinking to myself, liked like not realizing
Speaker 1: that you'll be a fucking idiot right now, dude, go
Speaker 1: on a bender for four days straight. It was embarrassing.
Speaker 1: It was fucking tough. Dude. You get out of that
Speaker 1: little four day piece and you're like, I haven't really slept.
Speaker 1: I've been acting like a fucking idiot. I've been doing
Speaker 1: a lot of extracurriculars. It was a fucking tough gig
Speaker 1: for me, and it was really like a come to
Speaker 1: Jesus moment, Like mister A came and picked me up.
Speaker 1: It's a random apartment complex, wearing the same outfit I
Speaker 1: was wearing four days before, but the buttons on the
Speaker 1: shirt were like wrong. Yeah, he has a picture of me.
Speaker 1: He literally says, it's the most disappointed I've ever been
Speaker 1: in You was that I slept for like eighteen hours.
Speaker 1: Literally went to a small coma like just to say
Speaker 1: it was just bad. I haven't parted like that since. Yeah, way,
Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed that. That's hilarious. I don't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so don't learn from me. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Ship dude, it's cooler to pretend like you don't have money.
Speaker 2: It's good that you said all those things too, because
Speaker 2: I feel like every all every.
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: In a little bit, I was being an idiot, damn idiot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's more, but I don't know if I want to
Speaker 1: go into it, but not to go another time.
Speaker 3: What should we transition into next?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Jaguars Titans game. We watched the
Speaker 1: game together. Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted,
Speaker 1: but there are two plays that stick out in my
Speaker 1: head that we can go over. One is what the
Speaker 1: fuck was Trailing Burke's doing when he tossed that ball
Speaker 1: over his head? What was that a cold play? Okay?
Speaker 1: Thank god, because I literally thought, like, there's no way
Speaker 1: it's done that, Like, that's not in the playbook.
Speaker 4: What the fuck is that put that? We put that
Speaker 4: in on Friday? What ever Friday is for Thursday? Well,
Speaker 4: we were expected its like third and fifteen. They usually
Speaker 4: play like a little off zone coverage. Yeah, we thought
Speaker 4: we're gonna throw it the trailing on a slant and
Speaker 4: then they're going to rally to just tackle and then
Speaker 4: he's gonna throw it to the back, and we ran
Speaker 4: in and practiced against the defense and it worked perfectly.
Speaker 1: Really it was.
Speaker 4: It was like third and seventeen. Threw at the trailing,
Speaker 4: he threw it to the back and he got like
Speaker 4: thirty yards right, all right, A bet might as well
Speaker 4: try it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, launch that ship up in the air, dude. I
Speaker 1: was almost too and almost when he called it, though,
Speaker 1: I was surprised.
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be like later in the game,
Speaker 4: I have it, like all right, we need something.
Speaker 1: But that was like the second.
Speaker 4: First quarter, like the quarter, third third down of the game,
Speaker 4: oking Michigan.
Speaker 1: Running the Philly Special against TCU in the first quarter
Speaker 1: on the first drive. What are y'all doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like late, like late the game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. It was a late game call, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, like going off that like when you get
Speaker 1: a call in your headset and you know the call
Speaker 1: before you tell the boys, You're like, hey, what the
Speaker 1: fuck if I'm the quarterback and they're like, yeah, do
Speaker 1: the fun I don't want to play. What's the play called? Uh?
Speaker 1: It's called uh like tracks like a razorback for Trailing
Speaker 1: razorback and you're in your head like, holy fuck, what
Speaker 1: what was the D and D?
Speaker 4: So I was starting fifteen and we're in field goal range.
Speaker 4: I'm literally just stereo Trailer, be smart, like, don't don't
Speaker 4: do anything stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't throw it.
Speaker 4: Don't throw it like way back, they get the ball,
Speaker 4: like because we got points and we're about to start
Speaker 4: off this game on the road with points we need.
Speaker 4: We need these points, so they don't say, don't do
Speaker 4: anything dumb. And the crazy thing was it worked. It
Speaker 4: just wasn't backwards like it was literally like to really.
Speaker 1: Taught really like, oh, I can't believe, like all he's
Speaker 1: falling down, dude, I remember watch throw it through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how he got that off really either.
Speaker 1: No, just looking into Trailing's eyes before the crystal green eyes.
Speaker 3: Situation, don't do something stupid like green eyes.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you got it or bet or something
Speaker 1: he said, and he caught that guy as he's going on,
Speaker 1: you guys, this is the perfect time. Throw this fucking
Speaker 1: ball in the air. Dude, a movie you.
Speaker 3: Know, a movie scene was going on. I'm about to
Speaker 3: be the.
Speaker 1: Hero, yes for a first down in the first quarter. First,
Speaker 1: I know, questionable call, questionable, questionable situation for you. Let
Speaker 1: you say hypothetically, it's fourth and thirteen. Defense is in
Speaker 1: a loose cover three at the sticks. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you an empty set. I'm gonna go three routes curled
Speaker 1: up at the sticks. They can get the first down.
Speaker 1: We put the ball in the money, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to give you two checkdowns. Where you going with the football,
Speaker 1: probably should throw it past the stick? Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: was so hot. I was hot on my bro.
Speaker 3: Everybody gets an.
Speaker 2: Extra playoff check. Trainers are getting an extra ball. You
Speaker 2: got everything on the line. You going to the sticks,
Speaker 2: you're going check.
Speaker 1: Down, probably sticks hindsight, I'll put it. I'll put it.
Speaker 1: I'll put it on me. It's straight when you when
Speaker 1: you get that ball, I was like, oh cool, they're
Speaker 1: doing another one of those lace through a bell and
Speaker 1: running barely down like thing. I was so hot. So
Speaker 1: did you know it was third down?
Speaker 3: Fourth down?
Speaker 1: You sure? Yeah? I promise, I promise. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be dispebbled. I guess that's hard that has happened.
Speaker 4: So I knew it was fourth down. I knew what
Speaker 4: covers they're in. It's literally like it's called three week by.
Speaker 4: So I mean they're standing at the sticks and they're
Speaker 4: standing like right where the guys are running. I told like, hey,
Speaker 4: find try to find a window and everything. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stare at the guy over the ball. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna try to pull as many people to him as
Speaker 4: I can and try to rip it the trailing into
Speaker 4: the boundary.
Speaker 1: So I caught it.
Speaker 4: Nick Lestburgh runs with chains route and there's like four
Speaker 4: guys standing there. And then I looked right and there's
Speaker 4: like two guys standing right next to trailing like trailing.
Speaker 3: One dude was right in front of him in the corner.
Speaker 4: Like touching shoulders, and then Woody like the safety standing
Speaker 4: in front of him. So I'm like, the worst there
Speaker 4: I can do right now is take a sat And
Speaker 4: then like it was literally as I was saying that
Speaker 4: and I was about to start scrambling, it was just
Speaker 4: out of reaction and like hassan just flashing in front
Speaker 4: of my face. I threw it right through it. I
Speaker 4: was like, come back, yeah, so no, I won't suck.
Speaker 2: Like when you just replay in your head, you're like, motherfucker,
Speaker 2: why did I throw that?
Speaker 3: So you for sure you're you're thinking like every rep
Speaker 3: in your head.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're like every repucking matters, like the resume
Speaker 2: of starting right here, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And just like the situational places like that's one thing
Speaker 4: from the first game. I was like, all right, let's
Speaker 4: be better, Let's be a better situation, which like outside
Speaker 4: of that situation the whole game, I mean, we were
Speaker 4: moving the ball and verting third and long's like two
Speaker 4: big fourth downs, so we were much better situationally throughout
Speaker 4: the game. But yeah, in that play, was like, you know,
Speaker 4: just just give someone a chance. And I was thinking,
Speaker 4: like a couple of thirds, like yo, this is a
Speaker 4: huge third down, like to stay on the field at
Speaker 4: that play, like the play before it, I was like,
Speaker 4: all right, let's make it as the manageable of a
Speaker 4: fourth down as I can. That's why I threw the
Speaker 4: checkoutto a son to play before it. But yeah, you
Speaker 4: flashing from my face on.
Speaker 1: And it was a false start before right hoop fall
Speaker 1: started all started. They flinched you fall started.
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're i mean, their front so talented,
Speaker 4: not really, so we're trying to do everything we can
Speaker 4: to slow him down.
Speaker 3: It might have gotten better.
Speaker 1: I think they got better. I'll tell you what. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Josh Allen's gotten better, but he's gotten
Speaker 1: a lot cooler. Looking on the field, he does look
Speaker 1: dark visor everything with the sea on the chest he looks.
Speaker 1: He does look cool. He's got that perfect like build, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that dude is a dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you look you look over there like
Speaker 4: even like like Travan Walker, like he can probably like
Speaker 4: get some cooler sock swag, but like you'll get it.
Speaker 1: He's a rookie, Like, yeah, everyone has to. On the
Speaker 1: rookie you're like whatever that mat what you make, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but whatever your way.
Speaker 2: If you're trying to look cool, you're gonna get clowned
Speaker 2: on for that. If you're not doing enough, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get clowned.
Speaker 1: On for that.
Speaker 4: Man, they look the part you get out there, like
Speaker 4: the first thing you do, Like especially at quarterback, you
Speaker 4: kind of size up everyone on the field and you
Speaker 4: look at their line.
Speaker 1: They got some guys over there. Now, hey, guys, I
Speaker 1: need you to hold up a little bit, but not
Speaker 1: more than Dallas. Your first start, Dallas was the same way.
Speaker 4: Dallas was crazy because you looked at the d line,
Speaker 4: you're like Marcus Lawrence, like heard a lot about him,
Speaker 4: and you look at there, like, there's Michael Parsons, He's
Speaker 4: really good. And then you look at their cornerbacks and
Speaker 4: they're like taller than me, right, and their arms are
Speaker 4: down to their knees, Like when I can throw a
Speaker 4: go ball on that guy, he's as tall as the receiver.
Speaker 1: So you like size up everyone. They have a large,
Speaker 1: very large defense.
Speaker 3: Very large defense. On my left, it's all pause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a no pause podcast.
Speaker 2: If you're sitting there, when you're when, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: looked at the play a million times.
Speaker 3: What are you wishing you just did slightly different?
Speaker 1: Just scrambled, you know, let someone work for you. Were
Speaker 1: you under the rest? Do you have that play? I
Speaker 1: can't remember if you there was pressure or not.
Speaker 4: I think the play before I had pressure pressure, like
Speaker 4: a couple for a couple of plays. So or just scrambled,
Speaker 4: get someone a chance, work a scrambled drill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, yeah, damn.
Speaker 3: I know, bro, we were dialed in, we were watching
Speaker 3: Fired Up.
Speaker 1: We were fired Up.
Speaker 3: I really thought that reminds me.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, finish your thought about the turnover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, what's your thoughts on that
Speaker 2: replay the turnover? Yeah, because what was it? That was
Speaker 2: a six minute protection with a load to the right side.
Speaker 4: To the right, and there they brought the pressure earlier.
Speaker 4: They're like, if you see two to the back, you
Speaker 4: can flipper it. But also the look like all week
Speaker 4: were like, slide to the load. Yeah, slide to the load.
Speaker 4: I mean it's Josh Allen and then it's two and third.
Speaker 4: Do you do you lineman? And then we'll pick up
Speaker 4: the game on the back side. Slide to the load.
Speaker 4: So I look at it. I'm like, I'm gonna slide
Speaker 4: to the load. And then you're bringing a safety off
Speaker 4: the edge, which I felt him. I felt him rushing,
Speaker 4: I felt him coming. I felt I felt him rushing
Speaker 4: from behind you.
Speaker 2: Was this you felt him behind he was coming behind you,
Speaker 2: coming from behind behind you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm coming up that back. I felt him rushing.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna drift to the right and Freilan had
Speaker 4: like eight to ten yard route and so I was
Speaker 4: just trying to give him time to work off the defender,
Speaker 4: and literally a millisecond later, he catches the ball on
Speaker 4: the sideline. For a first down, because I mean, he
Speaker 4: was wide open the sideline.
Speaker 1: So that's football. So when you so you saw the overload,
Speaker 1: you're all right, they're gonna pick that up. But you
Speaker 1: knew the safety was coming, and didn't know the safety
Speaker 1: was coming.
Speaker 4: You know, the city was coming, didn't know the safety
Speaker 4: was I didn't know the situation, but it was there
Speaker 4: was a linebacker, linebacker mug and the safety. Linebacker dropped.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: With my head, linebacker drops, I'm like the back, I'm
Speaker 4: thinking the back will pick up the safety. The backs
Speaker 4: head he's thinking I got to help out with the
Speaker 4: internal game. And then the left guards thinking I got
Speaker 4: to push to the load for their games to the load.
Speaker 4: So everyone was more sliding right, and then it was
Speaker 4: kind of he became a free rusher just based off.
Speaker 1: Their scheme on damn. Yeah, damn. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a four pass. Yeah, we didn't see it.
Speaker 4: We didn't see it on the field because obviously when
Speaker 4: you're away, they never play any replays, especially of the
Speaker 4: biggest play of the game.
Speaker 1: At the Titans in the citium, they do replace. They
Speaker 1: will there will be calls that go our way, and
Speaker 1: then those show in the basement in the back. Oh,
Speaker 1: we should probably probably throw the challenge. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 2: That's what they're supposed to do, right, They're trying to
Speaker 2: show the replays that are in your favor. But Jacksonville
Speaker 2: could have thought that's a ward pass exactly. Jacksonville could
Speaker 2: have thought, Oh, this doesn't look like it's in our favor,
Speaker 2: don't show the replay.
Speaker 1: Number two also looks very cool. He does. Look, can
Speaker 1: you go back to the uh? Lay? Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see this that that same play like this view.
Speaker 4: The next one is the next uh yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it's the next one.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the checkdown or you know, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about that play where he gets uh. I want to
Speaker 1: see that the whole entire thing. Man a right, and
Speaker 1: they took it to the all right, all right, something
Speaker 1: slide to the low. Yeah, okay, but there's a mug there.
Speaker 1: There's no one coming. If you're signing the load, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say what the call is, but they're signing.
Speaker 1: These two are man and have skins is his gap
Speaker 1: is right here in this a gap because unless somebody
Speaker 1: else is coming, because his either a gap, he should
Speaker 1: be picking up that guy. If no one was coming.
Speaker 4: If they're rushing, they're rushing five. Yeah, they only brought
Speaker 4: five because okay, hey sorry, go back. Forty one ended
Speaker 4: up dropping to the field.
Speaker 1: Is this a bigger a little? That's a little. That's
Speaker 1: the linebacker. Okay, so that is that is a son's
Speaker 1: damn you trailing? Yeah, tis a crib damn And it
Speaker 1: was Josh, that's a four pas. I feel like they
Speaker 1: didn't look at it very long neither.
Speaker 2: I don't think they did either. But to me, it's
Speaker 2: like if you could have just had that grip.
Speaker 1: For just a millisecond, Yeah, millisecond.
Speaker 2: Thing, it's almost like it even though your arm's going
Speaker 2: forward a little bit with it, you can see your.
Speaker 4: You can see yeah, which I get that part of it.
Speaker 4: But with the like I get like he's hitting me
Speaker 4: for it, but the ball go your hands right, Like,
Speaker 4: here's my thing. If you you know what you go
Speaker 4: back there in QB is like sometimes they throwing the
Speaker 4: ball just slips out and goes backwards. But if it
Speaker 4: slipped down and goes forward, that's before it passed. That's
Speaker 4: the same exact situation.
Speaker 3: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: Exact situation. Come buying that stock that's I think Jacksonville
Speaker 1: have won. You think then we punt, our defense stops
Speaker 1: and then we take a knee. We go home.
Speaker 3: The Titans got cheated out of a division title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back, Uh, go back to that play. The
Speaker 1: play we were talking about the sact. What I want
Speaker 1: to see the down in distance third and third and
Speaker 1: five thirty five? How much time is left? Uh?
Speaker 4: Three minutes, three minutes we get the first down, three
Speaker 4: minutes in the game, three manus left in the game.
Speaker 1: That was right afterwards.
Speaker 3: What you got you got on your mind?
Speaker 1: Nothing, just as armchair quarter I'm armchair quarterbacking in my
Speaker 1: head right now. Third and five defense has been has
Speaker 1: been playing well. Yeah, I think why not take a
Speaker 1: very like not You could you could absolutely run it.
Speaker 1: You could absolute run the station five on third and
Speaker 1: five with two minus fifty one seconds of the game.
Speaker 1: You can run it. You could run it a very quick,
Speaker 1: high percentage throw and hope he gets the sticks because
Speaker 1: your defense. Look at the score. The defense has been
Speaker 1: playing great all game, and we have the best punter
Speaker 1: in the league. Who's gonna hit that ball fifty sixty
Speaker 1: fucking yards? You do that? You're just talking about a
Speaker 1: completely different game. Right now, three timeouts on both sides,
Speaker 1: there's a.
Speaker 4: They'll probably burn one if you run, you run it,
Speaker 4: they'll probably burn it to save it before the two minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point too.
Speaker 3: But third and five, you're still trying to get the
Speaker 3: first down.
Speaker 1: You're still trying to get the first down. But you
Speaker 1: gotta go with like a super high percentage throw. Then
Speaker 1: that might that might have been a high percent throw.
Speaker 1: They just they just their scheme beat our scheme in
Speaker 1: this situation with how they were setting the things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it comes down to literally a millisecond. And
Speaker 4: it's totally different too.
Speaker 1: If you sit there and let's say we're not sliding
Speaker 1: to the load, and you think, all right, we got
Speaker 1: we have five guys up. Basically, why don't we just
Speaker 1: mic this guy over the left guard. Now you have
Speaker 1: five on five. Now heskin picks up that that safety
Speaker 1: off the edge. Yes, you didn't get him. That's a
Speaker 1: four pass. That's a four pass.
Speaker 4: Play live, play live, And I get like the rule
Speaker 4: where they say, all right, let's let it, let's let it, let's.
Speaker 1: Let it go.
Speaker 4: This what I was like, all right, they'll let it go.
Speaker 4: And then they'll be like, it's a four pass if you.
Speaker 1: Just saw that. No, man, you think that's a fore past.
Speaker 3: Because again he's not hitting the ball forward.
Speaker 8: No, he's saying my arm, which is like an eight
Speaker 8: nine yard throws.
Speaker 1: The exact same play. Yeah, because you try, you try
Speaker 1: to think of another argument for yours if you're being
Speaker 1: biased and if they're if y'all are playing the Patriots.
Speaker 1: When Tom was there, it's like, oh, obviously they're having
Speaker 1: bias ards the Patriots. They want them to go to
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Did it same play? We should pull up
Speaker 1: that play?
Speaker 3: You're talking about the tuck rule?
Speaker 1: No way? Hey, oh, yesterday, I want to uh the
Speaker 1: way you frame that question him about the checkdown. It
Speaker 1: was a really good job. Yeah, that was what did
Speaker 1: it good? Did you think about that before?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of something I was messing with.
Speaker 2: I was telling Caleb ho I wanted to ask a
Speaker 2: question about the fourth and twelve play, like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give this situation where we're getting a few out,
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a check down fourth and twelve game
Speaker 2: in the line where you going with the ball? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then he sorry, he started laughing, and Caleb was
Speaker 2: doing with Caleb Dust. Yeah, it's like painting it even
Speaker 2: more and talks about there's a forty thousand dollars check
Speaker 2: for everybody on the on the roster waiting to go
Speaker 2: to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You get that extra Yeah, that's a face, that's a deal. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're thinking, how fuck I wanted that check?
Speaker 1: You goddamn Yeah exactly. I mean anywhere you sliced the dude.
Speaker 1: You played well in those two games. You played well
Speaker 1: enough for the Tennessee Titans to win the Dallas I
Speaker 1: don't know, like it just didn't go our away that one.
Speaker 1: They they played well too, They played well, they had
Speaker 1: more talent on the field. Like that is what it is,
Speaker 1: except washing it beat the game. You gave Tennessee an
Speaker 1: opportunity to win, and that's all at the end of days, quarterback,
Speaker 1: that's what you did. You did a great job and
Speaker 1: your second start in the NFL. Yeah, that's incredible. You
Speaker 1: have everything to be proud of. Appreciate that. Like you
Speaker 1: can nitpick yourself on the fourth and thirteen all day,
Speaker 1: but really you are There's three things that can happen
Speaker 1: when you are a backup thrust into a starting role
Speaker 1: in the league. You can play so well that this
Speaker 1: dude needs to be a start in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: can kind of stay where you're at, or you can
Speaker 1: play yourself out of the NFL and you are in
Speaker 1: those top two.
Speaker 2: And on on drop of the hat, Like again, you
Speaker 2: did that within a week ten days.
Speaker 1: Notice, let's say let's say I mean, I'm assuming Tannehill's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the on the roster next year. He's there,
Speaker 1: You're the number two. People know. Tannehill goes down like, oh,
Speaker 1: we got Josh Dopps. We're gonna be all right, we
Speaker 1: can go play, but we can go we have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to win a game exactly the season under you.
Speaker 1: But you've leveled yourself up just off of twenty days.
Speaker 1: For sure. How cool is that? It's more than that.
Speaker 4: I mean, like and that was serr sports, Like, well,
Speaker 4: why wouldn't you just like just go back to the
Speaker 4: clar even like send back to their practice squad. It's
Speaker 4: like you have to give your you have to you're
Speaker 4: not if you're not especially at quarterback, if you're not
Speaker 4: drafted in the first round, or a team doesn't say, hey,
Speaker 4: we want you to be our guy and we're gonna
Speaker 4: put you on this field until you are successful. To
Speaker 4: be the guy you have to look around and say, hey,
Speaker 4: I have to make an opportunity for myself.
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do, and that's what you did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is that how you feel about it too? Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, the game gets done, Like you're obviously upset.
Speaker 2: You're like, fuck, man, I would have loved to have
Speaker 2: gotten in the playoffs. But now you can kind of
Speaker 2: sit back and look at these last two weeks like
Speaker 2: you took advantage of your opportunity.
Speaker 1: Definitely see him and any doubt that might have crept
Speaker 1: into your mind over the last six years of being like,
Speaker 1: am I a start in this? Like because everybody has
Speaker 1: self doubt? Of course everybody has that you have silenced
Speaker 1: in your own head.
Speaker 4: That's those critics what you really like, and you affirm
Speaker 4: to yourself that your process works for you, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. That's the biggest thing is when you do
Speaker 4: the process and then there's no result at the end
Speaker 4: of it, Like there's nothing, there's nothing to show for it.
Speaker 4: You're just sitting there like, Okay, yeah, I have some
Speaker 4: good preseason tape, But a lot of guys have got
Speaker 4: preseason tape, going out and actually playing like in big games,
Speaker 4: like and playing well in those moments. It's completely different
Speaker 4: than saying, yeah, you played really well in August against basic,
Speaker 4: Cover four and Cover three defenses for three weeks.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I know it. It definitely does feel
Speaker 4: good to make the most of the situation. Wish I
Speaker 4: could have made more of the situation, you know, like
Speaker 4: not throw the checkdown.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm working with you on that. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1: But also, did you really tell Trailing to be smart
Speaker 1: with the ball on that play? For sure? All right?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: It's like sure and again with him there you know
Speaker 2: that you can do it. It's like six years is
Speaker 2: a long time not doubt yourself. But again, leaning back
Speaker 2: on conversations with Colt McCoy, he's like, man, because injuries
Speaker 2: would kind of hurt him to like be a full
Speaker 2: time starter, because he would he would get hurt.
Speaker 3: He's got to an injury history.
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I just want to know that everything
Speaker 2: I'm doing every day because he was very like regimented process,
Speaker 2: like first in last all that shit, bro every fucking day.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, you know why you still blah
Speaker 3: blah blah.
Speaker 2: And it's like, man, when I do get the opportunity,
Speaker 2: I just want to know that I can do and
Speaker 2: everything I'm doing is correct, Like I just want to
Speaker 2: prove myself that, like I can be a starter. I
Speaker 2: can't go out there and win a big game exactly.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that's sick, man. It does suck that.
Speaker 2: It's like the boys don't get to go into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I didn't get a check either. I
Speaker 1: would have got a check on I R you would
Speaker 1: have got a check. Yeah, I would have got check.
Speaker 3: Remember Kyle Phillips, Yeah, I wanted to pay for his wedding.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he think this check will pay for my wedding.
Speaker 3: This check will pay for my wedding.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sorry, But there's a lot of guys. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys on the Titans roster that I think made
Speaker 1: themselves money. Like I think Jordan Russ went out and
Speaker 1: I think he played really well. He plays hard. I
Speaker 1: think Corey Levin went out there and made some money
Speaker 1: for himself. Like those are the.
Speaker 3: Guys that I've rooted for. But I like, I'm not
Speaker 3: in alignment, so I don't know if.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought Jordan, I think he's been
Speaker 1: starting for five weeks. I think he is. He played good, like,
Speaker 1: not hey did you did? You did? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: he played good football a couple you want back here
Speaker 1: and there. But I think he proved he proved a
Speaker 1: lot of people wrong. And I think Corey did the
Speaker 1: same thing because Corey's not the same person he was
Speaker 1: draft is the same draft class as year seventeen.
Speaker 4: Corey's like stories very similar to mine. Yeah, we were talking,
Speaker 4: like I was talking to him on the plane last night.
Speaker 4: Was that yesterday two days ago? It'sa alill blur And
Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, that was just my fourth start.
Speaker 4: Like Corey, it was just your fourth start last night.
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, that was your second. That's crazy. COR's
Speaker 4: the best that he is awesome, He's super smart. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but the way he talks, like is this guy.
Speaker 3: Where he's coming out slower than he's so dude.
Speaker 1: He thinks fast and talks slow. He is the dude though,
Speaker 1: Like when he got here in twenty seventeen, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was a guy that I perceived as being
Speaker 1: happy to be on the football team, like happy to
Speaker 1: be in the NFL I've made it because I'm here
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, just thankful for yeah being in the room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then he uh, he got cut. I think he
Speaker 1: went to the Jets and then he went to Denver
Speaker 1: and we had to the Bears, and the Bears too
Speaker 1: for a hot second, kind of like really in a
Speaker 1: big limbo part of his life gets a I guess
Speaker 1: a fourth chance in Tennessee again and is A was
Speaker 1: a completely different person still same great personality, still talked
Speaker 1: real slow. But he was definitely one of those guys
Speaker 1: that I could see he has made like a maturity
Speaker 1: growth being like I'm not satisfied with just being on
Speaker 1: a roster, and I think I think the boy made
Speaker 1: himself some money this the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: You're out of role to know that you're a defendable,
Speaker 2: you're a dependable backup emergency situation, which is.
Speaker 1: I think Corey could be a starter in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I do believe Jordan Ruse can be also.
Speaker 3: I feel what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying from situations like that, you almost need
Speaker 2: the confidence to know I've carved out, like I'm going
Speaker 2: to be on a roster next year. Now I get
Speaker 2: to take advantage of actually competing for a job, because
Speaker 2: when you're in and out of it that you're almost
Speaker 2: thinking like, man, what situation can I get into?
Speaker 3: Make the roster?
Speaker 2: And then you get to play a few games and
Speaker 2: you almost feel like, Okay, I've earned myself some money,
Speaker 2: meaning like I've earned myself a fifty three man spot.
Speaker 2: Now how can I look at There's a whole different
Speaker 2: winning a job.
Speaker 1: Different headspace, yeah, yeah, different headspace. Yeah. Because Jordan's stayed
Speaker 1: with me. His family was in Texas and during camp
Speaker 1: when they released the veteran Jordan's like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to stay in the hotel. Can I stay
Speaker 1: at your house? So he didn't. We would drive together
Speaker 1: to practice, we would go we would constantly talk about
Speaker 1: like his situation because he would lean on me because
Speaker 1: obviously being somewhere knowing that I'm gonna have a role
Speaker 1: on this team and what I'm gonna be, he would
Speaker 1: lean on me, and I would just kind of like
Speaker 1: get Look, he gave him a letter grade every day.
Speaker 1: I was like, you did this well. I thought you
Speaker 1: could have done this better. Blah blah blah. But put
Speaker 1: a really good camp together, and I think it was
Speaker 1: really looking where because at first it was him, Daniel
Speaker 1: Munyer and Corey and there's always you know how camp is,
Speaker 1: there's always like battles within the position group, and that
Speaker 1: was his battle per se. Munyar gets hurt in one
Speaker 1: of the scrimmage practices we have, and I'm hurt for
Speaker 1: Monier because that's my boy. But Jordan he's sat for
Speaker 1: Monyar too, But at the same time, he's thinking, I
Speaker 1: got an opportunity. That's one off the list right there.
Speaker 1: Nate has a couple of things. Corey he starts feeling
Speaker 1: more into a center role. So I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: end of camp thinking, oh, my boy's gonna make this team.
Speaker 1: Like he's literally willed himself into it. Had a great camp,
Speaker 1: played hard. I think he had a tough last preseason
Speaker 1: game and he was really it was really weighing on him.
Speaker 1: And then two days before the active roster's done, we
Speaker 1: traded for Dennis Daly and I think that's the one
Speaker 1: that took him out of the race because he was
Speaker 1: a guy for that moment took him out and because
Speaker 1: he asked me like, what do you think, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know the kid. I don't know Dennis Daly
Speaker 1: very well. I know him better now obviously, but I
Speaker 1: was like, it seems like a tackle, all right.
Speaker 2: I think they.
Speaker 1: They traded. I thought they were trading for a tackle
Speaker 1: because there was a whole situation with Dylan Raiden's he
Speaker 1: and Nick were fighting for the tackle spot. Then Nick
Speaker 1: wins that I think they're now trying to play Dylan
Speaker 1: in an inside three position, which also puts a little
Speaker 1: more pressure on Ruse, and they bring Dennison to be
Speaker 1: the backup tackle. Obviously a week into it, Dennis was
Speaker 1: thrust into a starting job. But that's what It's crazy.
Speaker 1: How you do all the right things and now he's
Speaker 1: fucking out, you know what I'm saying. But and then
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he sits there, he works hard,
Speaker 1: gets elevated, sits around for ten weeks. He's making activated money.
Speaker 1: He's grinding. Guy's a workhorse. Also, you're a workhorse too.
Speaker 1: I saw you in that weight room a few times.
Speaker 1: You were getting after it. Appreciated that wait on. But
Speaker 1: I'm proud of I'm proud of Rus. I think I
Speaker 1: think his year is like just the grinder. He's a
Speaker 1: grinder that's literally making his NFL dream work and I'm
Speaker 1: fucking proud of that guy's doing a great job.
Speaker 4: So the stories are like awesome because it's like, shoot,
Speaker 4: you just you got grind.
Speaker 1: You just keep grinding, keep grinding, crying the way, keep
Speaker 1: chipping away.
Speaker 2: See like, I feel like you can see all the
Speaker 2: all those guys, right, and then you see the decisions
Speaker 2: made by one half and then decisions made by.
Speaker 3: The other half. The other half kind of.
Speaker 2: Like you know, gets weeded out of the process, and
Speaker 2: you're kind of just you watch Ruse do his thing
Speaker 2: and you're just thinking, man, like, how fucking I'm rooting
Speaker 2: for him?
Speaker 3: Because this motherfucker does all things.
Speaker 1: Everything right right, and then three times themselves out of
Speaker 1: the league. He was late to meetings three times. You
Speaker 1: never slept three times this year. And I will publicly
Speaker 1: say that Jordan Ruse, he needs that accountability. I got
Speaker 1: almost everything.
Speaker 3: Well probably. Yeah, that's gonna be tough from me here
Speaker 3: than on a public platform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really be tough on there. But I've already
Speaker 1: said so many nice things. There's gotta be something. I
Speaker 1: have a dragon for the ball. It takes his one
Speaker 1: jab and he's flat. It's like the comments on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Did you see ten good ones and one bad one?
Speaker 1: Now one bad one? Things way worse about a chugging ability?
Speaker 1: And he was flustered. Yeah, but you're fast, like you,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't talk about peoples chuggability because of you're incredible.
Speaker 3: I understand that, but I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: All I had to do is tell Jordan like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Taylor murked you what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And he was bamboozled for like the next two months.
Speaker 1: Yeah, easily rattled Jordan Russ. That's tough. That's a tough
Speaker 1: pendulum swing on him just now, because there were so
Speaker 1: many good things about him. He was started that that's
Speaker 1: on me, that's on me. That's tough.
Speaker 3: What do we talk about now? This dude is an
Speaker 3: aerospace engineer. Yeah, I don't that's true.
Speaker 1: That's truewit certified rocket, certified rocket scientist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a certified rocket scientist.
Speaker 1: Was on my Twitter. I thought that that was the
Speaker 1: coolest thing.
Speaker 4: I've changed it when when I graduated, it's like certified
Speaker 4: rocket scientists.
Speaker 2: You know, that is insane. It's almost like the default
Speaker 2: thing you want to be when you grow up. You're
Speaker 2: just the youngest want to be a rocket scientist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that even mean? You you scientifically know
Speaker 1: rockets now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, like build you a rocket, go to space
Speaker 4: general studies major. One of my classes was astronautics, and
Speaker 4: it was like actually pretty mind blowing because it was
Speaker 4: literally like space travel, so you were you were doing.
Speaker 4: It's called like Homan transfers and non Homan transfers. So
Speaker 4: just like talking about like trajectory, what are those two words,
Speaker 4: what are those words mean? Homeland transfer? Like rocket is
Speaker 4: going to like you're trying to send a rocket from
Speaker 4: like Earth to Mars, like Earth to another planet, just
Speaker 4: like the math and.
Speaker 1: Stuff around it. You're gonna love our tier talk. What's
Speaker 1: what's that? You'll find out a little bit. Okay, don't worry,
Speaker 1: it's what you're talking about. But very dumb down eight
Speaker 1: year olds are gonna love this part of the show. Perfect.
Speaker 1: What was your one question going to be?
Speaker 3: Is time travel real?
Speaker 4: So my time traveling my time travel traveling piece is
Speaker 4: it's like so like time is the fourth dimension in
Speaker 4: our world, So like you had if you're in a
Speaker 4: two two dimensional world, no, no, no, it's so unbelievable.
Speaker 4: If you're in a two d world. Like if you're
Speaker 4: two D world like a picture book, right, you got
Speaker 4: two dimensions, the third dimensions time, so it's like the ability.
Speaker 1: The fourth thoughtally the fourth dimension. We're in a two
Speaker 1: D world. Now we went back.
Speaker 4: Okay, if you, like you have a book, it's two D,
Speaker 4: so the third dimension will be times, like the ability
Speaker 4: to like just flip the page pages and like go
Speaker 4: from a different spot in the book. So like in
Speaker 4: our three dimensional world, time is the fourth dimension. So
Speaker 4: if you could time travel, you have to be four
Speaker 4: dimensional in the three dimensional world.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, yeah, okay, So I understood what you
Speaker 1: said kind of, but I don't think you answered the
Speaker 1: question said.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's time travel is real at the
Speaker 4: moment because I feel like I saw like one thing.
Speaker 4: One theory is like if time travel is real, like,
Speaker 4: time travel can't be real until the day someone creates
Speaker 4: a time machine, because then you can time travel backwards
Speaker 4: and force to that point. But until someone creates a
Speaker 4: time machine, you can't time travel to an area of
Speaker 4: time where there's no time machine.
Speaker 3: Do you think the potential's out there?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Have you ever seen an interstellar I
Speaker 1: have seen an interstellar fire. Okay, hold on, so hold on,
Speaker 1: that's the.
Speaker 3: Four D.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like before you could just pick where he
Speaker 4: wanted to go in the three DIMENSIONLD because it's in
Speaker 4: the fourth dimension.
Speaker 1: So if time time travel is only real when time
Speaker 1: travel is made when there's a time machine made, when
Speaker 1: a time machine made. So if the time machine was
Speaker 1: made right now, and it was right outside this building,
Speaker 1: and we said, okay, we're gonna time travel. We can
Speaker 1: only travel to the future, we can't travel to the past.
Speaker 4: Interesting, you want to know what's the theory I just saw.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. No, we're gonna take
Speaker 4: that as facts right out. That's you just gave me
Speaker 4: all the information I now know about time travel.
Speaker 1: Like that is that's a fucking it.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is like, say, the potential to
Speaker 2: create that is out there the moment it gets made,
Speaker 2: and you can time travel.
Speaker 3: Our future selves already knew we were going to come
Speaker 3: up with.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, because they look at their history books and say, oh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is.
Speaker 2: When he's out behind the library right now, a bookshelf,
Speaker 2: just yelling.
Speaker 3: Do this do that? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows that it is going to come at
Speaker 1: some point. What massive implications are there on our species
Speaker 1: human beings with travel with no with time travel being
Speaker 1: able for the common man to do, isn't that extremely dangerous?
Speaker 1: I think so, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: What's your opinion?
Speaker 1: Do you think rot science?
Speaker 3: Come correct, brother, because.
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about the butterfly fact? Well, like being
Speaker 4: a rocket science so fun because people a great movie.
Speaker 4: People are like, you got to know everything, like you
Speaker 4: becoming rock sided. People ask me about everything, like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know everything. I just know like rocket sciences stuff,
Speaker 4: so like time travel, like I know, like I know
Speaker 4: the couple.
Speaker 3: No rocket science.
Speaker 1: You think you all I know. I'm just a man,
Speaker 1: but I do know rocket science. They're not all knowing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: When you're done playing ball? Then what do you want
Speaker 3: to do with that?
Speaker 1: Show it off on podcasts? Show it off on PA
Speaker 1: be like, uh, what's the podcast? What's that?
Speaker 4: What's the guy that goes on the podcast and talks
Speaker 4: uh the astrophysicists. Yeah, Neil de grasse be like him
Speaker 4: in talk circles around people. No, I won't, I won't.
Speaker 4: I won't do that. You have my attention. Wow, So
Speaker 4: I've done stuff at NASA, like I want to get
Speaker 4: my pilot license this off season.
Speaker 1: Nothing'm gonna do that? Why wherever? I think that would
Speaker 1: be dope like stuff like that. I really like aviation.
Speaker 4: I really like aviation, like stuff like growing up, planes
Speaker 4: was always my passion. I started aerospace engineering because aeronautical
Speaker 4: engineering would be just aviation. Aerospace engineering is aviation and space,
Speaker 4: so you get both just to see the differences. But
Speaker 4: I really like aviation. I think that would be that
Speaker 4: be something really cool to get into passions.
Speaker 1: If planes have always been your passion since you were
Speaker 1: a little kid, why are you waiting? Why have you
Speaker 1: waited till now to get your polot license?
Speaker 4: I haven't had any time, honestly interesting, but like the
Speaker 4: last off seasons, Like my first off season, I did
Speaker 4: a externship of fanatics, just like learning, like how they
Speaker 4: grew their company from a business standpoint, to learn business.
Speaker 4: Second off season I was with NASA. Third off season
Speaker 4: I was with NASA. Fourth off season was COVID, so
Speaker 4: nothing was going on. I was with this stuff at NASA.
Speaker 4: So I just like haven't really like had the time
Speaker 4: or just been in I guess the physical place to
Speaker 4: be able to do it. So this off season really
Speaker 4: like where I got the point. So I got released
Speaker 4: from Cleveland end I'm going to practice squad as we
Speaker 4: all know, and so I was sitting there, I was like, yes,
Speaker 4: I'm like I have to learn a playbook and everything,
Speaker 4: but I also I want to be really productive.
Speaker 1: With my time.
Speaker 4: I was like, it'll be something like cool to like
Speaker 4: set myself up for the off season. So I started
Speaker 4: taking the pilot's class. I was like, I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: my pilot's license. So I started taking the class and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I was doing that like in my free time.
Speaker 4: And then obviously since I got here, I haven't looked
Speaker 4: at it once because I had to you know, play
Speaker 4: but yeah, so I kind of like saw that.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want to do that this
Speaker 1: off season, so I'm gonna do it. There you and
Speaker 1: that fires me up. Do you know what plenty want
Speaker 1: to fly in?
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna do it with serious over in Knoxville. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they make a lot of single engine jets and planes,
Speaker 4: so I want to fly in one of their jets.
Speaker 1: So I'll probably training your planet. You want to train
Speaker 1: in a jet? No, excuse me one of their planes.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get like a jet license that takes
Speaker 4: like a lot of a lot of hours, the fourth
Speaker 4: license down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do like the forty hour one, where's like
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one days like hard training and be awesome.
Speaker 1: You can just go fly wherever. It'd be awesome. Are
Speaker 1: your instrument as well? Uh? Probably, yeah, in time, if
Speaker 1: I have enough time to do it. But man, that
Speaker 1: is sick because serious is like the new coming of
Speaker 1: age single prop planes. Yeah, they have the thing called
Speaker 1: s R twenty two little doors that kind of come up.
Speaker 1: They're like all carbon fiber like the Lamborghini like butterfly doors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're sick.
Speaker 4: They're awesome custom make if you want to get one,
Speaker 4: they're on back order. I can't really fully afford, like
Speaker 4: I act my own one, but if you when you
Speaker 4: when I can, like you can get one like super
Speaker 4: decked out customized like they're dope.
Speaker 1: Second picture on the right, that's their their serious business jet.
Speaker 3: That one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that thing legit. You will sit in it
Speaker 1: and it's like an extended sitting in an extended suburban suv.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super comfortable.
Speaker 4: There was a single single engine, so the engine problems,
Speaker 4: they have a parachute at the poise that for like
Speaker 4: as its safety feature. Yeah, and it's actually they've actually
Speaker 4: had to do it like a couple of times, and
Speaker 4: they say, like, every time we do it, it's really
Speaker 4: cool because it just reconfirms that even though it's a
Speaker 4: single engine jet, like, we still have redundancies to make
Speaker 4: sure everyone's safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if, like the pilot gets incapacitated, there's a
Speaker 1: button on top of the roof. You just press that
Speaker 1: button and the computer will locate the nearest airport and
Speaker 1: land for you. No, you don't touch nothing. Jesus.
Speaker 3: So you like you enjoy like flying around more than
Speaker 3: you do like being in space.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been to space.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, do you aspire to go to space?
Speaker 1: That was that was a great comeback.
Speaker 3: Said it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, he has no we have
Speaker 1: to we have to be okay with the fact that
Speaker 1: we know we're sitting with a man that's much smarter
Speaker 1: than us. Sure, I hope to gain whatever knowledge he
Speaker 1: has to give us, whatever droplets of information we can take.
Speaker 3: We got to soak that in but laughing at me
Speaker 3: for dumb questions.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm telling you it's okay.
Speaker 4: I want to go to space, I would say, like
Speaker 4: I've like thought about it. So every time I go
Speaker 4: to NASA, the first thing they asked me is like,
Speaker 4: but when you're gonna start astronaut training? I'm like, dang,
Speaker 4: you guys are like really serious about this, Like they
Speaker 4: have me do a whole promo for them for getting
Speaker 4: people to sign up to be the astronauts and everything,
Speaker 4: like they're really Like the Bob Cabana He's the head
Speaker 4: of Kennedy Space. Every time I see him, he's like,
Speaker 4: you know, when are you? When are you gonna come
Speaker 4: work for me and go to space? Like, damn man,
Speaker 4: you're really serious about this thing. So I think I
Speaker 4: think in time, like I probably would. I think that'll
Speaker 4: be really cool. Yeah, I'm in no rush to do it,
Speaker 4: like at this point, but with all this stuff going
Speaker 4: like so much commercial space opportunities are out there, so
Speaker 4: I think I think it's something I would do down
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 3: Would you want an internship with SpaceX?
Speaker 1: Internship with SpaceX?
Speaker 4: I would want to go see what they do because like,
Speaker 4: just so I've so they have a big site down
Speaker 4: NASA and Florida, and they say, like just talking with
Speaker 4: the NASA people, like those SpaceX engineers work around the clock.
Speaker 4: So I went over there, and so they have won
Speaker 4: the launch pads. They have two launch pass down there,
Speaker 4: so when they saw their launch paths and they have
Speaker 4: their landing zone where they land their rockets like at
Speaker 4: the space station after they detach. And so just like
Speaker 4: I've been around them, like I've seen their operation. Those
Speaker 4: people work like around the clock. I guess, like what
Speaker 4: they what they've done for the space industry, They've they've
Speaker 4: changed the game just because of how often, like how
Speaker 4: much they work, like how many strides they take forward
Speaker 4: and shorts amount of time, how many rockets they launch.
Speaker 4: When they launch a rocket like every week and then
Speaker 4: they land it and reuse it and then launch it again.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Musk is the answer.
Speaker 4: But I think I think or Twitter, I'll for Twitter.
Speaker 4: I don't only get I don't only get kicked off Twitter.
Speaker 3: That's hot. But I just wanted to ask that question
Speaker 3: so that way we had it for whatever clip we
Speaker 3: want to make.
Speaker 4: In case I think exactly, I mean, he's changing the
Speaker 4: game like, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you think he could easily become a villain?
Speaker 4: Do I think he could become I mean, I think
Speaker 4: he has the power to. I don't think he would
Speaker 4: because everything, everything that he's done literally has helped.
Speaker 1: To civilization, like work smoother, like that's how it starts.
Speaker 4: Start starlink, they're watching Wi Fi for literally anywhere anywhere
Speaker 4: in the world you can have Wi Fi Tesla. We
Speaker 4: know what Tesla's doing with electric cars, you know, and
Speaker 4: he's like, all the strides that NASA will make to
Speaker 4: go to the Moon, go to Mars happen because they
Speaker 4: have companies like SpaceX pushing the.
Speaker 1: Envelope on everything that they're doing. So that's a rocket
Speaker 1: sciences answer, that's right. So obviously I don't think you're
Speaker 1: going to have the answer, and if you do, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. What is the future for space travel for
Speaker 1: the normal, for like the general population. So that's a
Speaker 1: great question.
Speaker 3: For president one day.
Speaker 4: I would say, like in the next the next twenty years,
Speaker 4: people will be like going to the Moon, and I
Speaker 4: won't won't be it won't be an odd occurrence that
Speaker 4: normal civilisits normal civilians. They want to go to the Moon,
Speaker 4: they'll have the ability to do it. I think like
Speaker 4: there will be people on Mars too soon. I don't know,
Speaker 4: like how soon people like what farming like, are they like.
Speaker 1: You want to go on Mars?
Speaker 4: I mean they're training astronauts to go to Mars actively
Speaker 4: and live there. Yeah, dude, I mean so the NASA,
Speaker 4: So I worked on the NASA Artemist project that was
Speaker 4: to go back to the Moon. So the rocket that
Speaker 4: I was like working around launched the beginning of December
Speaker 4: or end of November I believe, and so that was
Speaker 4: I was unmanned, went to the Moon. It's like a
Speaker 4: twenty day mission. The circles around the Moon came back.
Speaker 4: But it is for the next launch in a couple
Speaker 4: of years where they're going to be rebuild the rocket.
Speaker 4: It's going to take people to the Moon and then
Speaker 4: like the fourth iteration of that rocket is to go
Speaker 4: to Mars and then to take people to Mars.
Speaker 1: So it's close, it's very close.
Speaker 4: NASA works slower because there's a lot of red tape,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of political things around it. I mean
Speaker 4: the president changes every four or eight years, and that
Speaker 4: really changes, like NASA and like how fast that they
Speaker 4: can work and move forward. But because the commercial companies
Speaker 4: want to do it, the government will want to do it,
Speaker 4: and like, so it's going to happen soon. And because
Speaker 4: also like people are interested in it. People are interested
Speaker 4: in space. People want to go to space. It's that
Speaker 4: cool now like it was in the sixties. So that'll
Speaker 4: be something. People will be going to the moon and
Speaker 4: then shoot Mars as well.
Speaker 3: Is Josh EU's the smartest guest we've ever had on
Speaker 3: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, yeah, him, and I
Speaker 1: think number two would probably be a Burt Kreischer. It's
Speaker 1: a big drop off. It's a big it's a big
Speaker 1: drop firstas phenomenally, he's a very smart individual. He ain't
Speaker 1: no rockets some of those.
Speaker 3: Things where Josh, you're talking, You're just like, oh yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: I'm legit, like learning. I feel like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, appreciate that. Imagine being the first, like
Speaker 1: the first group of guys and gals that are like,
Speaker 1: all right, you guys want to go to the moon,
Speaker 1: and it's like fuck, hey, let's go. And then like
Speaker 1: week out that's in like we're the first ones to
Speaker 1: do this, Like for vacation too.
Speaker 2: You remember vacation, like how we're going to Cabo, Like
Speaker 2: it's hey, I'm getting this tickets, Let's go to the
Speaker 2: moon for five nights.
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard. It's great this time of year. Let's
Speaker 1: go check it out. Yeah dude, Uh what was that?
Speaker 1: Was that in the nineties when like they sent like
Speaker 1: teachers up to space and that that blew up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't challenger, I want to disquote it. Challenger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they have your school bus gone wrong? So yo, dude,
Speaker 1: So NASA has.
Speaker 3: A statement your school bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I got the joe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough joke.
Speaker 4: They have a room in the v A B down
Speaker 4: there where's dedicated to to the ash and they make
Speaker 4: all the commercial companies, like all the engineers that come
Speaker 4: through NASA. You have to go in the room and
Speaker 4: you literally see the wreckage. You see parts of the
Speaker 4: shuttle that they went and found and put in the room,
Speaker 4: all the records and stuff. Just as a reminder that,
Speaker 4: like every day that you're working, it might be monotonous.
Speaker 4: It might be she's been ten years since they've launched
Speaker 4: a rocket, but you put people on the rocket, you
Speaker 4: know it's actually souls going to space and your work.
Speaker 4: You know, even though you're looking at the math and
Speaker 4: it's important, it's even more important with the life factor.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: It's like you going there, you know, you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: a NASA school, and then you walk in there just
Speaker 4: puts it all into perspective.
Speaker 1: Fuck man, crazy, too good for this bus? Hey, before
Speaker 1: before we do tier talk. While you were talking, I
Speaker 1: forgot about some part of our conversation. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: hurry up and pee. Though you said that you and
Speaker 1: I have had a couple run ins before when we
Speaker 1: ran into each other before, I was just talking about
Speaker 1: the complex, Okay. I don't know if there was like
Speaker 1: a drunken stupidly now I always got losers or something.
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, you were, Actually what's that I
Speaker 1: saw bender in Arizona was crazy? Yeah, a riot house
Speaker 1: in Arizona, dude, or the super Bowl that literally was
Speaker 1: the spot too. Always old town. I can't stay in
Speaker 1: old town like that. Though. Old town was fun for
Speaker 1: like a couple of days. And then you're like, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I know, but I just see when I grew up
Speaker 1: in Arizona, I gre up in Cave Creek and My
Speaker 1: mom would always have like this personal vendetta against everybody
Speaker 1: that lives in Scotsdale. We get down there and you
Speaker 1: see the street signs start to change. You of these
Speaker 1: rich fucks like they're a bunchet, like you would like
Speaker 1: implement like money. Money's yeah, Money's the enemy in my mind.
Speaker 1: So I get down to Scotstone, like all these fake
Speaker 1: people out here. I still like at thirty one, I
Speaker 1: had that scene like programming in my head. I gotta
Speaker 1: get over that. I gotta I gotta move on from that. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, old Town is every girl from my not
Speaker 1: every girl, but most of the girls from my high school,
Speaker 1: Like they go to college and then they get jobs
Speaker 1: at like Bottle Blonde and stuff like that. So look
Speaker 1: key when you go back, when you go back to visit,
Speaker 1: you're like you kind of feel like the man because
Speaker 1: you know a whole bunch of one. You're like, you
Speaker 1: can go. What's crazy to me is like when I
Speaker 1: was at that age, I'd be like, yeah, this is sick.
Speaker 1: And then you'd see like some thirty year old guy
Speaker 1: and you're like, what are you doing now? I'd like
Speaker 1: think to myself, if I go to Old Town, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking that thirty year old guy. I missed an
Speaker 1: old fuck now, No, you can go screw it man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess may probably not all right. Tier talk. So
Speaker 1: the way tier Talk's going to work is we're basically
Speaker 1: tier like the way we UH talk about our audience.
Speaker 1: We have Tier one fans like they would drink the
Speaker 1: kool aid. They're in the cult, they're about the business.
Speaker 1: Peer two is like just under Tier one. Obviously they're
Speaker 1: like they watched, they listen, but they're not like extremely
Speaker 1: diehard fans. And there's a tier Tier threes who are
Speaker 1: like basic viewers. So in tier talk, we have our category,
Speaker 1: which today is jack planets, best planets, best planets, a
Speaker 1: lot of things. I might we might have a God
Speaker 1: tier on our hands. To you boys, we might have
Speaker 1: a God tier. So the whole idea behind that is,
Speaker 1: I you're gonna go three to one. You can have
Speaker 1: an honorable mention in there if you want, and then
Speaker 1: it's going to be uh your third favorite, second favorite,
Speaker 1: and first favorite planets planets after you finish. And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of gentlemen on this bus today. I hope
Speaker 1: the camera can get the camera of everybody on the bus. Plus,
Speaker 1: everybody will go around with their microphone and give one
Speaker 1: word to describe how they felt about your tier talk. Okay,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of pressure here. I'm the only
Speaker 1: one doing it. No, we're all gonna do it, you,
Speaker 1: me and Will. It's gonna be a good deal. It's
Speaker 1: just best okay, best planets. I know it's a weird.
Speaker 1: That's why I said like, it's very elementary.
Speaker 3: I uh, I kind of know.
Speaker 1: I know what my honorable mention is for sure, and
Speaker 1: I know what my tier one is.
Speaker 3: Would you.
Speaker 1: I think we might have got here God teers is
Speaker 1: like you, Me and Will just like say, like our
Speaker 1: favorite planet is this, It becomes God's here. Now You're
Speaker 1: tier two? Is now your tier one? Tier three? Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. You have to find a new tier three.
Speaker 1: Always start us off.
Speaker 2: I gotta start yourself with the tier talk. Yeah, planets,
Speaker 2: I can't prepare it. My tier three, no honorable mentions.
Speaker 2: God knows it won't make the graphic. Although it is
Speaker 2: a new year, new US, new year, new US.
Speaker 3: Your news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you put the honorable mentions in the graphic now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honorable mention. No, I know we're listening.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be met with that kind of defense.
Speaker 2: We're doing the thing right now, we're trying to do
Speaker 2: a bit. Just honorable mention. Shout out to Pluto. I
Speaker 2: would love to shout out Pluto. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: somebody you kind of want to get to know planet right,
Speaker 2: They got exiled, they kind of get kicked out of
Speaker 2: the classroom. You kind of want to know a little
Speaker 2: bit about their story. Maybe they got something going on.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give an honorable mention shout.
Speaker 1: Out to Pluto's mine.
Speaker 3: You maye me go first, you may be go no.
Speaker 1: I don't think you think of it. I don't think
Speaker 1: you think of it.
Speaker 2: My Tier three is going to go to Planet l
Speaker 2: V twelve oh one. You guys might be wondering what
Speaker 2: that's from. It's it's home to one of the best
Speaker 2: crossover series that have been made, Alien Versus Predator.
Speaker 3: It's the breeding ground.
Speaker 2: It's planet where it's infested with aliens and predators come
Speaker 2: every now and in the hunt big game, and they
Speaker 2: call that that's that's their sport. So my Tier three
Speaker 2: is gonna go to Planet LV twelve zero one.
Speaker 3: My Tier two.
Speaker 2: The Year of getting Jack twenty twenty three my shot.
Speaker 2: My tier two goes to planet fitness. So by making
Speaker 2: gains and twenty twenty three boys and getting Jack and
Speaker 2: getting sculpted is one of them. My tier two is
Speaker 2: planet fitness, my tier one, and my tier one is
Speaker 2: true and dear to my heart, it's a shout out,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a tip of the cap to a
Speaker 2: Star Wars Dagleba dagle ba is a dagglebar diglebag goo bah.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's true and dear to my heart. I can't
Speaker 2: always pronounce the words correctly. I'm not on that Alpha
Speaker 2: Bran black lebel right now. But that's where Yoda was
Speaker 2: lived in exile after the third Star Wars in the series,
Speaker 2: in the swampy forest in the swampy Forest, and brought
Speaker 2: the hope, the Jedi hope back by training Luke Skywalker
Speaker 2: and teaching him the ways of the Force. A lot
Speaker 2: of law of attraction, biblical foundational teachings and philosophies come
Speaker 2: out of that movie, and it started one that's my
Speaker 2: tier one that runs on my list of favorite planets.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good.
Speaker 2: You're kind of thinking about the planets nic my list
Speaker 2: is a little different, all right, one word bloss.
Speaker 9: The elite, thank you, blass, nice, fictional, right, hilarious, I
Speaker 9: love it.
Speaker 2: Wrong, he gets it. He knows that he understands. What's
Speaker 2: your word to describe my tier?
Speaker 1: Talk? Solid?
Speaker 3: Just okay, it's the.
Speaker 1: First word date in my head. Imaginative, thank you? Good word?
Speaker 1: Do I get?
Speaker 3: Ask Thomas why he's a fucking hater? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ask him. I want to get one word
Speaker 1: to respond. Now, you can describe it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up with describe it?
Speaker 5: Go ba?
Speaker 10: You know, I just I wasn't thinking in the confine.
Speaker 10: I was thinking of the confines of our eight planets
Speaker 10: in reality, you know, not necessarily businesses or fake planets.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess it's not no hate Big
Speaker 1: Star Wars guys. Sounds like Thomas has really just falling
Speaker 1: into a lack of imagination. You forgot the child and
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I will.
Speaker 10: I'm a total serious guy. There's nothing in me that
Speaker 10: your beanie says it all. Yeah, my yellow and orange together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, small town thinking. You're only thinking in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the box.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we figured out this is a you problem,
Speaker 1: not a Will problem.
Speaker 3: That's that's in the box. Yeah, but out of the galaxy.
Speaker 1: Brother, it's not me. Man, thanks wrong, But you want
Speaker 1: to go? You want me to go?
Speaker 3: Or should you? Sure? Do you want Taylor to go?
Speaker 1: I'll go because I don't. I don't want to go. Last,
Speaker 1: because I don't think mine's gonna be that great. Well,
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude, I won't. All right, I'll go.
Speaker 1: The first off, I want to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to Will Compton. I think he did a phenomenal job there.
Speaker 1: I am going to give an honorable mention. My honorable
Speaker 1: mention will be the same as Will's. It's gonna go
Speaker 1: to Pluto. When I was in third grade, that motherfucker
Speaker 1: was a planet. Now all of a sudden, you're trying
Speaker 1: to tell me it's not a planet. Take out my
Speaker 1: fucking school, and then I had, fuck you school, that
Speaker 1: is a planet. And I think it was done wrong.
Speaker 1: I think it was very disrespectful what they did to Pluto.
Speaker 1: And I think Pluto needs its day. Pluto needs to
Speaker 1: be talked about more fucking free Pluto, dude, because this
Speaker 1: is out in the conference. When I was googling shit,
Speaker 1: it literally had the eight planets and they made the
Speaker 1: planets big enough to where they had the stuff out
Speaker 1: Pluto's little lass. Like, put Pluto back in the fucking
Speaker 1: image and just put Pluto, dude, and just.
Speaker 3: Go from there.
Speaker 4: I don't want to cut you off, but Pluto hasn't
Speaker 4: gone one lap around the Earth in your life. I
Speaker 4: mean one lap around the Sun in Earth?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I mean it's like, it's not
Speaker 1: a planet.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's follower.
Speaker 1: He's followers by its own drums. It's not y'all just
Speaker 1: want to go in circles all day. I'm out here
Speaker 1: doing you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Let me be the longest time to get around.
Speaker 1: You see how follow mo fucker's out there. You can't
Speaker 1: even see it. Yeah, we really Jupiter sometimes, that bag
Speaker 1: ass piece of shit, my tier two, it's gonna go
Speaker 1: to Neptune, that big blue sorry, my tier three, not
Speaker 1: my tier two. My Tier three is gonna go to Neptune.
Speaker 1: That planet is overshadowed by Jupiter, that big ass ball
Speaker 1: of whatever with that little fucking is that Jupiter with
Speaker 1: all the gas. It's really big and has that cool hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Neptune, the red Neptune, low key, the only
Speaker 1: reason why it's in my tier talk is anytime I
Speaker 1: saw a picture, I thought to myself, that's a cute
Speaker 1: ass planet. That thing's blue, It's beautiful, and I love it.
Speaker 1: I like Neptune, dude. I like Neptune a lot.
Speaker 3: Neptune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Tier two is Youranus, and you can probably
Speaker 1: pick together why I thought Tier two should be Uranus, dude,
Speaker 1: because I think it's somewhere we all want to be.
Speaker 1: We all want to be in Uranus.
Speaker 3: Will you like fingering?
Speaker 1: Dude? Dude? What are you talking about? You do something twice, dude,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're a bad guy. Why mean, dude?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Bro? I'm a bad dude, dude
Speaker 1: because I like whatever. I fuck with your anis, Dude,
Speaker 1: I messed with your anis and my Tier one salute
Speaker 1: to the earth, dude. You got water, you got gravel,
Speaker 1: you got that good ass oxygen. People can breathe wherever
Speaker 1: they want around there. People are bitching about the trees
Speaker 1: and stuff too.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: They were the only place that you can just get
Speaker 1: out and go and be all right without a doubt,
Speaker 1: without a dumb ass mask on. You be grateful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could probably save more trees. Plant a couple, dude.
Speaker 1: We should do that this year for twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: I only get Jack, but planet a couple of trees.
Speaker 1: Help out this beautiful earth. That is my tiar Talk
Speaker 1: the Earth get jacked. Help the Earth get Jack, dude,
Speaker 1: helpe the Earth get Jack. I will before you guys,
Speaker 1: do your one word. I didn't like that. I was
Speaker 1: interrupted multiple times. All right, do it if you need
Speaker 1: to put that into one year one word, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But just know that pissed me off a little bit. Dude,
Speaker 1: that's fair. That is yeah.
Speaker 2: I apologize too, Thank you. My question was going to
Speaker 2: be like, why were you so angry persenting the whole time?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was passionate, dude, No, but ugly
Speaker 1: ass you got mad. I got mad about Pluto because
Speaker 1: I remember being I remember being in third grade being like,
Speaker 1: that's a cute ass little dot like hanging out, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it was just gone and
Speaker 1: there was really no explanation there, just like, no, it's
Speaker 1: a star or what is it a star? The thing
Speaker 1: is a satellite? Considered a satellite? Now either is her WiFi?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: How is it?
Speaker 3: Is it a satellite? Neptune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Neptune. Neptune. Neptu is massive, massive, Just too small,
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, it's just too small.
Speaker 3: He got the little guy. That's crazy, dude, you.
Speaker 1: Know, rules at me. I'm just reporting the news. Darren
Speaker 1: Sproles was too small there, look at him. Proven the
Speaker 1: hater is wrong. My boy Deuce out in Kansas State.
Speaker 1: They said he was too small. Blake Krn was too small.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. Just can't be football players. Just
Speaker 1: it'll be.
Speaker 3: Difference.
Speaker 1: So I apologize for my anger coming out, but Pluto
Speaker 1: did rough me up a little bit. Boyce one word passionate,
Speaker 1: thank you vulgar intergalactic mm hmmm, intense, grateful, thank you,
Speaker 1: cosmic invigorating passion. I'll think all this, I'll think all.
Speaker 4: Yours is very truthful. I'm like Will's his His was
Speaker 4: a little fantasy, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved I'm coming from the Heartwell.
Speaker 1: Also, before you go, Mitch, I feel like you just
Speaker 1: find out a word in your head and regardless of
Speaker 1: what anyone says, like you this, that's what you do
Speaker 1: in intergalactic. It was a cool word, and I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: But I also thought to myself, that's not genuine. That's
Speaker 1: just something he thought to himself as he was talking,
Speaker 1: and he's like, Oh, it's a cool big word I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say. And you got what you wanted?
Speaker 3: Did you really buzz light? Youer said this in toy story.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 4: Hi, Josh, you're up, dude, I'm up, all right, My
Speaker 4: honorable mention to start because everyone pronounces it wrong. It's Uranus,
Speaker 4: not Youurinus only for his pronunciation issues, all right? Tier three.
Speaker 4: Tier three will start with Venus is Earth's evil twin.
Speaker 4: I just think it's sick, like if you just look
Speaker 4: at the science behind it. They have like crazy hailstorms.
Speaker 4: It's just an intense planet. My Tier two is Mars
Speaker 4: because it's the future of human civilization, is where we're
Speaker 4: going next. And my Tier one is Earth, just like Taylor,
Speaker 4: thankful to be here?
Speaker 2: Why is Earth? Why is Earth and Venus? Why are
Speaker 2: they considered twins? Because we live on Venus.
Speaker 4: They're the same size, same mass, But like everything Earth has,
Speaker 4: like oxygen and nitrogen, like Venus has the exact opposite,
Speaker 4: So no, we can't.
Speaker 1: Live what's the opposite of? For those people that don't know,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: It's like very high. I think like carbon diog. I
Speaker 4: don't know all the science, but I did it. I
Speaker 4: learned it one time. I was like, oh that sounds
Speaker 4: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you asked the question
Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm sure people out there like like
Speaker 2: we're all in class right now.
Speaker 1: Question. Yeah, Hey, well you just cost you cost all
Speaker 1: over me like spin in my arm.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't think I think all right anything?
Speaker 1: All right? One word bloss.
Speaker 3: Knowledge mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Stellar, Here we go. It comes straightforward words. That's a
Speaker 1: hyphen hyphenated words here. Educated. Uh, you better not say
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 8: Smart, Yeah, thanks malone, hyphen milky way mm hmm yeah, informative.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was good, dude, that was good.
Speaker 2: Should be included them on a shot out No Free
Speaker 2: SHADOWT if we want to you, are you familiar with
Speaker 2: shoutout No Free SHADOWT?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: So you've never watched an episode?
Speaker 1: I've watched it. I haven't watched a full episode. You
Speaker 1: just watched the clips. Fair Tier three of you.
Speaker 3: We have a lot. We have a big Tier three
Speaker 3: fan base.
Speaker 1: Okay, so shout Out No Free Shadow is our favorite
Speaker 1: segment of the week. The way we phrase shout out,
Speaker 1: no free shadow is on this podcast, We're not going
Speaker 1: to shout you off. We're not gonna shout you out.
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta pay to play in this game.
Speaker 1: This is our opportunity to dish out a couple of
Speaker 1: shout outs to those small little things in life that
Speaker 1: maybe are overlooked or underappreciated. So we will all go first,
Speaker 1: and then you may have the floor if you would
Speaker 1: like to bloss just us. All right, do you want
Speaker 1: to go first? Time? We go first? Go ahead.
Speaker 3: It happened this morning. Oh my shout out, no free
Speaker 3: shout out goes to.
Speaker 1: I forget how mana are you want me to? My
Speaker 1: shout out, no free shout out goes to when you're
Speaker 1: at the cash register and you're speaking to somebody and
Speaker 1: they look at you and they say, all right, that'll
Speaker 1: be however much money at twelve forty nine and you
Speaker 1: put your credit card in and then they take the
Speaker 1: little white thing and they spin it back to them
Speaker 1: and they don't give themselves a tip because they realize
Speaker 1: they turn it too fast, and they press no tip.
Speaker 1: They were the bad guy for themselves. They took that
Speaker 1: extra initiative. Yeah, and so you kind of walk away
Speaker 1: being like, damn, they actually deserve a tip now for
Speaker 1: not taking a tip for themselves. But the integrity of
Speaker 1: that individual. Wow, that's incredible. The good shout out, thank
Speaker 1: you much about that. On the SPOS.
Speaker 2: My shout out, no free shoutout goes to love at
Speaker 2: first taste when you get that when you take it,
Speaker 2: whether it's a swig, have that first bite and you
Speaker 2: get that electric shock down both your jaws that you
Speaker 2: just tasted something nice, dude, go out to that little
Speaker 2: subtle difference that mixed in your day because when you
Speaker 2: take something this but it was after a hard workout.
Speaker 3: I took a h I took a.
Speaker 2: Drink of that drink you put me on, yeah, Celsius, Celsius,
Speaker 2: so Celsius drinks. I took the little peach flavored and
Speaker 2: it rocked my job, dude, And I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm in heaven. Yeah, I'm glad to be out of
Speaker 2: this workout sipping some liquid with the boys. So my
Speaker 2: shout out, my shout out, no free shoutout goes to
Speaker 2: love at first taste.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one dude there at the end.
Speaker 3: But I was tripping a little bit, but I caught myself.
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, do you want to give one. I'll
Speaker 1: give one. I'll give one.
Speaker 4: My shoutout, no free shadows, I say, all right. My
Speaker 4: shout out, no free shoudout goes to sleeping your own bed.
Speaker 4: You know when you when you're traveling on the road,
Speaker 4: you haven't been home for a long time. Just the
Speaker 4: first time you're able to look at your bed, jumping
Speaker 4: in and sleeping. It just that sensation of being home.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good, good shout out because them covers
Speaker 2: will touch you nice.
Speaker 3: Bro the next way, Yeah, then you're rock up next second.
Speaker 3: You don't know what to do. You're like, am I
Speaker 3: gonna go to bed right now?
Speaker 1: I am?
Speaker 3: I gonna finish this boy off?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's what you start like straightening
Speaker 2: your legs is stiffening your legs?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, what are we doing? He kind of
Speaker 1: comes out the seat you Yeah, dude, nothing like jerking
Speaker 1: off in your own bed. Shout out. That was Josh Jobs.
Speaker 1: Is jerking off in your own bed, Josh Jobs. There
Speaker 1: is a nice little deal when you get in like
Speaker 1: a from the opposite Like you get in a hotel room.
Speaker 1: You locked that door and the night is over. An
Speaker 1: eric ass, little watery ass lotion, You're like you're about
Speaker 1: to have hell. You look at your little buddy and
Speaker 1: you go, you know what's up? Yeah?
Speaker 2: See, I'm lazy though, I don't think uh, I don't
Speaker 2: think lotion, Like I want my hands to kind of
Speaker 2: stay dry, so I just get that rag.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I'm rag. I'm straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that little that little water lotion
Speaker 1: needs the Yeah, hotel.
Speaker 3: Room, you gotta get up and go wash your hands after?
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't you just wipe it with the same Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of get right, you know when you have
Speaker 1: the rag and you have like that hard streak after
Speaker 1: like you had to, like like you're taking off a
Speaker 1: layer of skin with that rag. And the next day
Speaker 1: you wake up and you're like the scent is still there.
Speaker 3: Which is nice.
Speaker 1: It's all right, Like something the best said you can
Speaker 1: probably get is like eucalyptus or lavender, but usually it's
Speaker 1: that plain Jane, like you know there's lotion there. But
Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, are people going to realize
Speaker 1: this loas is only on one hand?
Speaker 3: And I got after it last week with some conditioner.
Speaker 2: Oh, matter of fact, those dukes duke Cannon yea their conditioner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Cannon conditioner had this nice minty smell.
Speaker 1: That can hurt. Though it can hurt, but it felt nice.
Speaker 3: I had the cooling sensation afterwards a little bit. I
Speaker 3: was a little frightened because of my story, right, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't like that. It was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you do you remember the first time you
Speaker 1: masturbate him? Do you remember the first time you did?
Speaker 1: Do you?
Speaker 3: We've talked about it before on the pod like pod, Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. It's your story to tell if you
Speaker 3: want to tell it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you my I remember my first time.
Speaker 1: I remember like it was yesterday. I don't really want
Speaker 1: to know your first time.
Speaker 3: He's around the line.
Speaker 4: I appreciate your openness, though, I do. I really do
Speaker 4: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You know, LimeWire was involved.
Speaker 3: Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Are you sure you don't want to We talked about
Speaker 1: on the pod. Yeah, go Adam twenty two, so you don't.
Speaker 1: I won't assume you don't want to talk about your
Speaker 1: first time masturbating on I'll probably pass. It's maybe maybe
Speaker 1: my second time.
Speaker 3: It's probably smart just because you got like Nass and
Speaker 3: some big ship in.
Speaker 1: Your future's watching this podcast right now. Yeah, he masturbated.
Speaker 1: Never mind, but some homies in Nass and it's like.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're on they're on this podcast. I want to
Speaker 3: watch Josh Thopps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, getting you guys, you know some some new viewership. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it'd be cool. Client, It's cool.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be more of the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 2: It feels seems like you're like I loved there's Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning and there's probably Josh Opps.
Speaker 1: Yes, what about what about the last of the game.
Speaker 1: He saw he saw it at the game.
Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I saw. That's why I'm saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The game that the games are hilarious, just like the
Speaker 4: like I mean, just like going upstairs and yeah, like
Speaker 4: the whole process of it.
Speaker 3: They're all about. They're all about Josh stops.
Speaker 1: Dude. That's awesome. That's an incredible feeling. You do you
Speaker 1: feel that the rest of your life live you should
Speaker 1: go at least once a year, the rest of your life,
Speaker 1: just to get that ego boost.
Speaker 4: Just just like if I'm feeling down on myself, I
Speaker 4: just should go to no oh, it's fall not for long.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: I got to meet him. I had the privilege of
Speaker 2: meeting him in right in front of the elevator. I
Speaker 2: remember it clearly, and I was thinking, don't overplay your hand,
Speaker 2: Will and you should come on the bus one day.
Speaker 1: Do you say you should come on the bus. There's
Speaker 1: always trying to get people on the bus like that.
Speaker 1: I'm always at the recruiting always ABC, always be closing.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My sales tactic, We'll got some strings.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: He was in the Chancellor's box, he was up there.
Speaker 1: I saw you. You really like that food?
Speaker 2: He said, you really like that? And I knew there
Speaker 2: was underground because of Jack too. Like Jack goes like
Speaker 2: he leaves but the bus. Yeah, he leaves us for
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 3: Week a week every year ago film for his camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn that's cool.
Speaker 3: But anything else?
Speaker 1: What do you y'all? Play golf?
Speaker 3: I like to try. I like to smoke cigars and
Speaker 3: play music and have a good time.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just open bar at the golf course basically,
Speaker 4: So you guys gotta come play playing the golf tournament.
Speaker 3: This year you have golf tournament.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Knoxville. Guess what you're saying, Chase Rice, Chase
Speaker 1: Rice Horney, Chase Rice came he played at last year?
Speaker 1: Was the first year?
Speaker 3: Chase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll gotta pull it. This year's fine. Where is it?
Speaker 4: It's that Tennessee National just rights out of Knoxville, like
Speaker 4: on the weekend of the spring game. So all the
Speaker 4: all the VFL's come back and playing it.
Speaker 3: What weekend is that?
Speaker 1: It is the weekend? It with April, third week in April.
Speaker 1: That's a busy time for the boys and the bus.
Speaker 3: We're doing a little spring tour.
Speaker 1: Well, we could do knox Well, were we doing Knoxville again?
Speaker 1: I don't think we were. I don't know we could
Speaker 1: make that way.
Speaker 2: We don't want to give anybody out their hope that
Speaker 2: we could be rolling through Knoxville again.
Speaker 3: We're trying to put together a fun little spring tour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're around, just let me know. I don't
Speaker 1: really golf, but I'll go yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have Thomas doesn't golf. Bruise with the boys. Yeah, hopefully
Speaker 1: Chase is there. Hit them back, Yeah, Chase, that won't
Speaker 1: play a game, Chasing. We ask all our questions, is
Speaker 1: there anything any questions from Jack Tennessee fan, I mean
Speaker 1: we're I mean anything that you're a fan, none of
Speaker 1: a friend. Right right there, the most memorable moment as
Speaker 1: a as a volunteer, I.
Speaker 6: Wanted him to walk through the most iconic play from
Speaker 6: his career at Tennessee, which was the Georgia Hail Mary.
Speaker 6: Fans it was it was like, not just to play
Speaker 6: it so for the game, but we had a string
Speaker 6: of weeks where we was at the first time, we
Speaker 6: beat Florida, the week before Crazy game, came back, went
Speaker 6: against Florida, and then the Hail Mary that Josh threw to.
Speaker 1: Yeah you want I don't know. I thought that was cool,
Speaker 1: but that's not really necessarily a question. You did it.
Speaker 1: You just did it, not up finished a question mark
Speaker 1: at the end of that.
Speaker 6: How monumental was that for not only your college career
Speaker 6: but confidence moving forward going into the NFL.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a good weight to round that all one.
Speaker 1: That was good. It was nice. That's the best question today,
Speaker 1: snaps Jack. Yeah, no, it was live.
Speaker 4: So like so, I grew up in Alfred of Georgia,
Speaker 4: so just sou south of Atlanta. I wasn't really recruited
Speaker 4: by Georgia, but I never want to go to Georgia.
Speaker 4: But I just had beef because I never really liked Georgia.
Speaker 4: So like senior year on the road at Georgia, we're
Speaker 4: like going back and forth the whole game. But then
Speaker 4: they you're like, oh, I don't want to lose to Georgia.
Speaker 4: Like a beat them last year. We got a beat
Speaker 4: on again and they threw like a hell mary ish
Speaker 4: play like right before it. So there's like fifteen seconds left,
Speaker 4: they just bring their last time out. I was really
Speaker 4: standing next to Malone. They're on like the forty seven
Speaker 4: yard line, but they have to score a touchdown, and
Speaker 4: Malone are like, oh, yeah, we won. Like we're like
Speaker 4: we're about to get on the about to get on
Speaker 4: the plane, get back to Knoxville.
Speaker 1: It's live.
Speaker 4: We just won at Georgia. And then the next play
Speaker 4: they throw a whole shot down down the sideline. Dude
Speaker 4: catches it in a straight and we already look at
Speaker 4: each other like no, oh way. So they score with
Speaker 4: how much time left? There's eleven seconds left on the clock.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, But listen to the dude from their sideline
Speaker 4: runs on the field, no helmet, fifteen yard penalty, and
Speaker 4: he's actually he's from Nashville.
Speaker 1: That's what it was funny. He wanted to go to Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Think uh.
Speaker 4: He ran on the field fifteen yard penalty. So backed
Speaker 4: him up. And so we had the best returner in
Speaker 4: the nation that year, Evan Barry. So they had to
Speaker 4: kick it. They had to kick on the ball. They
Speaker 4: would just kick out the back the end zone. We'd
Speaker 4: be running hooking ladder and just praying. They had to
Speaker 4: kick it to him.
Speaker 1: He catches it. They tried to like pooch kick it.
Speaker 4: He catches it on the thirty he runs right, We're like,
Speaker 4: all right, keep going, keep going. He runs, he runs,
Speaker 4: He looks at the clock, runs out of bounds at
Speaker 4: their forty six yard line with four seconds left on
Speaker 4: the clock. And so before that we're like, are we
Speaker 4: gonna do hooking ladder or we're gonna throw hell Mary.
Speaker 4: So we get to that yard line, We're like, all right,
Speaker 4: we can throw hell Mary.
Speaker 1: So we get on the.
Speaker 4: Field, line up, call time out, come to the sideline,
Speaker 4: get back on the field. And then they rushed three
Speaker 4: and I was like, make sure you don't take a sack,
Speaker 4: make sure you don't throw it.
Speaker 1: Out of the back of the end zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Pepper this checkdown four seconds.
Speaker 1: He was waiting for that. The whole story, the whole story.
Speaker 2: I thought of it once you said don't take a sack.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, he's going there, and then you can smile.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, oh.
Speaker 1: Ship, yeah, we'll get him. I'm go get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good one.
Speaker 4: Rub it in my face, kicking, walk down, check down, No,
Speaker 4: through it, through it to Juwana.
Speaker 5: He he did the harp to a bomb and when
Speaker 5: he caught it, so you're like, it's fucking up. You're
Speaker 5: probably when he caught it is the plays the play.
Speaker 4: So when he caught it, I remember seeing him like
Speaker 4: catch it right here, and then it was like all
Speaker 4: hell brokeless.
Speaker 1: God so cool.
Speaker 4: I was at Georgia, so that was what was so
Speaker 4: cool about it because you could literally hear a pin
Speaker 4: drop and then they pull all the Tennessee fans like
Speaker 4: up in the rafters at the top of the stadium
Speaker 4: and it's just like they're just going crazy. The band
Speaker 4: is like at the top of the stadium to playing
Speaker 4: Rocky Top and then like sea of red silence.
Speaker 3: That's fucking cool. Tennessee does have one of the best
Speaker 3: fan bases. They really do.
Speaker 1: They roll so deep they do what a bomb too?
Speaker 2: No, you know, everybody in the defense, everybody fucking jumping
Speaker 2: for the ball and ship they know that defensive coaches.
Speaker 6: I was trying to find the play that set it up,
Speaker 6: because literally Georgia threw like a forty yard bomb with
Speaker 6: twelve seconds prior to this play too.
Speaker 1: We were up four points for them and they were
Speaker 1: gonna win.
Speaker 6: And they were they basically just beat us, and everyone's.
Speaker 4: Like, no fucking we're four and zero undefeated, and they
Speaker 4: threw it, and uh, I forget who said it. Some
Speaker 4: one goes and they about to party their butts off tonight.
Speaker 4: It was like electric in the stadium. It got rowdy,
Speaker 4: but then we were able to come back and the coach.
Speaker 1: Shones, where's he at now? He's at Arkansas State? Mm
Speaker 1: hm oh damn, that's tough. Yeah, good dude, good dude, Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: good dude.
Speaker 3: You played with some good players there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like tomor is the most underutilized college
Speaker 1: football player of all time. Yeah, but like we had
Speaker 1: Jalen heard too, most underutilized college football player of all time.
Speaker 1: You see what he's doing in the league. He's going crazy.
Speaker 1: You got think we got Jalen heard too.
Speaker 4: Jalen heard it was a thousand yard rusher as a
Speaker 4: freshman and sophomore. And then Alvin got there too, so
Speaker 4: and then once Jalen got hurt, Alvin obviously started going off.
Speaker 4: But like he was already going off. He just like
Speaker 4: we would get the ball the Jalen a little bit
Speaker 4: more than we gave it to Alvin. So, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 4: at hindsight, like, man, this dude's amazing. He's like one
Speaker 4: of the best running backs in the league. I wish
Speaker 4: we could have used them more in college, but like
Speaker 4: at the time, he thought we were utilizing people the
Speaker 4: best we could.
Speaker 1: You know, Damn.
Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking, I'm like, fuck, I don't want to
Speaker 3: keep on here that much longer. But I am serious.
Speaker 2: There's a few there's a couple of players that I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of that you play with on the Steelers, the
Speaker 2: Pouncy So I've heard nothing but like insane things about
Speaker 2: the way he is as a leader. And also it
Speaker 2: seems like you got to play with Antonio Brown.
Speaker 3: I would love to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think of a b like playing with
Speaker 2: them on the on the the black and yellow sucking gold.
Speaker 2: I don't want to butcher Pittsburgh Nation. Yeah, black and
Speaker 2: yellow like yellow.
Speaker 1: Oh. I just got a text from Dennis Kelly. Todd
Speaker 1: Downing and Keith Carter were fired. I even't seen anything,
Speaker 1: so that might be that might be breaking information, but
Speaker 1: that was from That was from Dennis Kelly.
Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, it feels from Dennis, and that means
Speaker 2: it's probably out Carter, the old line coach.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Wow, the reaction, my reaction.
Speaker 2: Keith Carter and Todd Downing just got fired real time.
Speaker 2: We just saw right now. What's your reaction to that.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that we got a
Speaker 1: video Oh my phone, my phone's out there, coach, that's
Speaker 1: his name? Not and then Keith Carter and Todd Downing.
Speaker 1: Oh I re Fraser did? Rob Moore is still there?
Speaker 1: I don't think Rob is going anywhere either. What an
Speaker 1: interesting I mean, first initial thought, I know you're literally
Speaker 1: on the spot. I know I'm without any time to
Speaker 1: register any of that information. I think Todd is an
Speaker 1: incredibly good person. He's like awesome to be around, and
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. You kind of could tell like,
Speaker 1: obviously the whole season, everyone's calling for his head, like
Speaker 1: that riding was on the wall. There was a moment
Speaker 1: when I went out to a walk and I think
Speaker 1: it was right before you got there. I was literally
Speaker 1: in a poncho and Todd. Todd was like, oh, you
Speaker 1: playing tight end. I was like, ye, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: tight end next next year for you, and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you go into and he recited some random high school
Speaker 1: football team like he I think Todd knew he was
Speaker 1: going to be fired. I think so, I'm really I
Speaker 1: don't know. Hart goes out to him, good family man,
Speaker 1: good dude. Obviously a bad situation. After the Packers game, Uh, Keith,
Speaker 1: he's been there. Keith's been there, Yeah for like five years.
Speaker 3: Five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Keith and I have had a very up
Speaker 1: and down relationship, and I think it's ended at a
Speaker 1: much higher point. But damn. I think like when Keith
Speaker 1: first got there, he the way he came in and
Speaker 1: the way he was trying to act towards everybody, like
Speaker 1: very disrespectful, very very authoritative, but like in a very
Speaker 1: like dictatorship type of way. Keith grew every single year
Speaker 1: and he he did live on the old line with
Speaker 1: impossible standards. That was kind of like one of those
Speaker 1: things you know, football is how it gets kind of
Speaker 1: toxic sometimes, like it's never good enough. You think you
Speaker 1: do well, but all of a suden there's one or
Speaker 1: two plays you want back and sometimes you just want
Speaker 1: to pat on the back and you never truly get that.
Speaker 1: I think Keith's a good I think Keith is a
Speaker 1: good offensive line coach that was stricken by injuries. Me Ben,
Speaker 1: Nate Brewer was hurt this year, and Nick missed a
Speaker 1: couple of games. That's all five starting guys were hurt,
Speaker 1: So that's not necessarily Keith Carter's fault. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be able to get a job in the NFL again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think yeah. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say like anything disrespectful, right because I think he's
Speaker 1: a good dude, and I think like he his his
Speaker 1: nice friendship. Friendship is a very loose term, but our
Speaker 1: business relationship got a whole lot better from the first
Speaker 1: time he was in to now. I just wish he
Speaker 1: focused a little bit more on taking care of the
Speaker 1: older players. I think Ben got a little more of
Speaker 1: that towards the end, and then I kind of did
Speaker 1: this year. But this is those practices are hard, and
Speaker 1: they were in your body and there where your tires
Speaker 1: are really fast, and you could see it towards the
Speaker 1: end of the season sometimes. But I think I think
Speaker 1: Keith's gonna get another job. I think he's did. He
Speaker 1: does a great job. I don't know coach Midgett at all.
Speaker 1: I passed him. The hallway knocks every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what it is. I hope it
Speaker 1: works out for him. But damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's happening Black Monday, Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think. I didn't think they'd be fired
Speaker 1: till later. I didn't think he. I didn't not think
Speaker 1: Keith was gonna get fired. Damn, are we sure it's
Speaker 1: Keith Carter? You see that Blake Korn's coming back? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: Oh, I meant to put a tweet out there, like, Bro,
Speaker 2: you've there's only so much shred on the tire in
Speaker 2: the NFL. You gotta go leave this conference. Bigger things ahead, brother,
Speaker 2: No need to come back to Michigan. Yes, Nebras will
Speaker 2: take care of it for you.
Speaker 1: Three time Big Ten champions coming up Josh's final Hang on,
Speaker 1: don't don't even.
Speaker 3: Bring that out.
Speaker 2: He was talking about it. He was talking about it before.
Speaker 2: He was talking about it before that news came out.
Speaker 2: He's talking about a couple of his teammates from the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Let him talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I just want to know about
Speaker 1: Josh's last game. Is of all the Nebraska game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well a twenty eight I believe, just thirty. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that close. Close game, wasn't.
Speaker 3: Was the score? You said ten points and we were
Speaker 3: talking about two possessions.
Speaker 4: And they scored like with like two minutes left in
Speaker 4: the game, and then we took a knee move him
Speaker 4: a lower doing handshakes in the locker room. What year
Speaker 4: was that, twenty twenty sixteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen.
Speaker 3: Mike Riley is the head coach, right, it was Riley?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's part of the Mike Riley or
Speaker 2: like that's hey, sick jack, you beat Mike Riley.
Speaker 1: I didn't beat anyone.
Speaker 3: We always have just the of a clearly healthy rivalries
Speaker 3: in college football.
Speaker 1: We have the most historic riper leagu in college football.
Speaker 1: If everybody busting trophy bust and bowl.
Speaker 3: Did you see that?
Speaker 1: No, what's that So you didn't see it? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I thought you watched, so you don't follow at all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an honorable mention washer dude. Uh yeah. Every year
Speaker 1: Michigan Nebraska they play for the bust And Bowl.
Speaker 3: There's a trophy we got made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting in Michigan's trophy room right now along with
Speaker 1: Paul Bunny and along with the brown jug for those
Speaker 1: of you want to when do y'all start bathing trophy
Speaker 1: championship year? This was the first year.
Speaker 3: First year that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we kind of just brushed over those guys
Speaker 1: getting fired. Well like what you know, we know, what
Speaker 1: do you really say? I don't know. I just feel bad.
Speaker 6: I feel like everyone was just waiting for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was coming to day, like what.
Speaker 2: Kind of what kind of what kind of like what
Speaker 2: kind of homage are we wanting to? We want to
Speaker 2: spend time on it, like are you somebody a question
Speaker 2: after you?
Speaker 1: No? No, no no. I just kind of spoke and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like disrespectful, And now I'm
Speaker 1: I kind of re thinking about what I said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was disrespectful, but I was also like you also
Speaker 1: got to cover all basis tho are human beings with families,
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that I'm not like
Speaker 1: being rude, right, But yeah, okay, so we can move on.
Speaker 1: We can absolutely move on from that. And you're go ahead.
Speaker 2: This is just such a good pop. And I'm thinking
Speaker 2: of the two hour mark right now. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you're feeling about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good, I'm straight.
Speaker 3: Because now there's a few questions I want to ask.
Speaker 2: I still want to talk to you about the teammates
Speaker 2: getting play with Pounty and Antonio Brown, and I also
Speaker 2: want to ask about your situation, like being in the
Speaker 2: headspace where you're at, being somebody that's been on IR
Speaker 2: all year and you've talked openly about anticipating being cut
Speaker 2: and everything else. Whether or not that happens, time will tell,
Speaker 2: But like, where has your headspace ends since? Because it's
Speaker 2: one thing knowing that, like, yo, this could be my
Speaker 2: last year in Tennessee, I could probably get cut. Like
Speaker 2: we're in the season. The minute the game ends on Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's a different vibe because even even I don't even
Speaker 2: play and I fols, I'm like, damn, it's just over
Speaker 2: for the boys. Now.
Speaker 3: It's off season. Yeah, like it's definitely not more real.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's yeah, I had to have
Speaker 3: gotten more real.
Speaker 1: It's gotten way more real for me because it's like
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, like me saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get cut is like my weird like a subconscious
Speaker 1: like egotistical way of being, like I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get got, And so I don't want people to think
Speaker 1: like I'm just getting blindsided here, Like I know, like
Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall for me, So I keep
Speaker 1: vocalizing it one because it's that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: process things, but also like in a weird way, it's
Speaker 1: like me getting ahead of it, you know. And once
Speaker 1: that game ended on that checkdown, I literally thought to myself, like, damn,
Speaker 1: it really is over, Like this is probably the last
Speaker 1: time I will ever be on you'll see the name
Speaker 1: Taro Lawan on a Tendency Titan roster, even even though
Speaker 1: it was on IR this year. And so that like definitely,
Speaker 1: like Saturday, I told you, I like I saw a tailoring.
Speaker 1: Like after the game, I was like, Hey, we don't
Speaker 1: talk about this now, but I feel weird right now.
Speaker 1: I do feel I feel like, uh, not like I
Speaker 1: would say emotion. I think emotion is going to come
Speaker 1: when that time happens. And I had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Ryan Cowden today and I walked in his office. I
Speaker 1: love Ryan. I think Ryan's a great dude. I have
Speaker 1: no idea how good of a GM he would be.
Speaker 1: John warm there. I think there's nothing he could have
Speaker 1: shown in these last seven weeks being the gym. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like you bring he brought you in, did
Speaker 1: a great job, you know, like that's that's huge, But like,
Speaker 1: where are they going? What's their process? I hope he
Speaker 1: does get the job because the person he is and
Speaker 1: I know he does things a little bit differently. But
Speaker 1: I walked into his office and I was like, I
Speaker 1: know because I've gained a relationship with him. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know you're going to cut me. And I know
Speaker 1: you're that's going to happen. And just know when you
Speaker 1: make that phone call and it's going to be difficult
Speaker 1: for you to pick up that phone because of our relationship. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take this personally. I understand the
Speaker 1: business and I'm not going to think this is you
Speaker 1: cutting me. I think this is the Tennessee Titans cutting me,
Speaker 1: and we had a fantastic, like fifteen twenty minute long
Speaker 1: conversation about other things too, But it is just a
Speaker 1: it's just wild, like I've never like I've never been
Speaker 1: cut before and I've never like had to feel that.
Speaker 1: And I know, sitting in the team room with Rabel,
Speaker 1: he always talks about guys like, oh, so and so,
Speaker 1: how many times have you been cutting? They're like, h
Speaker 1: seven and other guys are like ten or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then they find they're home somewhere and then you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: this person's been cut that many times. They've traveled on
Speaker 1: a suitcase, like you're saying, like you're a nomad, and
Speaker 1: so now I'm thinking like damn, Like everyone gets got
Speaker 1: and when you're in the position I am, you think
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get got. But here I am in
Speaker 1: the in plain sight with the sights on me, knowing
Speaker 1: that like it's it's probably ninety five percent going to happen,
Speaker 1: and so it sucks, but it's also completely understandable, and
Speaker 1: well we talked about before, there's there's arguments I could
Speaker 1: sit here and be like okay, I could be be
Speaker 1: back at the times because of these things like these
Speaker 1: are the pros and but like if I were to,
Speaker 1: like if I was a GM and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Taylor Law, i would think upside is solid. The downside
Speaker 1: is two acls and three years, Like, how do you
Speaker 1: unless I were to come back and we would renegotiate
Speaker 1: where I'm playing for way less money, Like there's no
Speaker 1: way I'm on that roster again. So it's just different.
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to think about being in that building.
Speaker 1: Today was really weird being that team meeting for the
Speaker 1: first time since week two? Right? Is it just a
Speaker 1: weird feeling.
Speaker 3: Interesting too, because you've been out of it since week two?
Speaker 2: Right, And you can even feel yourself you said it earlier,
Speaker 2: like I've been more you lean into like becoming more
Speaker 2: of a fan because you're just not in the daily
Speaker 2: routine with the boys, so you feel separated. But the
Speaker 2: minute that game ends, for whatever reason, it feels so
Speaker 2: much more finite, like right now it's just in real time.
Speaker 2: Coaches are getting fired, Like it just sucks because you
Speaker 2: build such like a pack mentality all year long about
Speaker 2: the aspiracious the goals were going to achieve together, and
Speaker 2: then the minute it ends, whether anybody likes it or not,
Speaker 2: you have to come in the next morning with a
Speaker 2: business hat on and start acting people.
Speaker 3: That's just like the nature of the business, which sucks,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And you know, like all this transition happening that last
Speaker 2: year and the culture and the team and the core
Speaker 2: guys that they've had the last few years, whether or
Speaker 2: not that all states in tags, but either way, it's like, damn,
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a way different looking team. Say,
Speaker 2: once you get removed from college for a few years
Speaker 2: and you don't even know anybody in the locker room anymore.
Speaker 1: That's fourth yearer in the league. You're like, damn, I
Speaker 1: don't know anybodymore.
Speaker 2: You're like, man, I don't even really have a pulse
Speaker 2: well on this team anymore. And so it's like it
Speaker 2: has to move on without you, which is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the nature of the game. But it's like acknowledging that,
Speaker 2: like when that when that last play happened, It's like
Speaker 2: we were sitting there talking about it in real time.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, it just sucks that the boys, like
Speaker 3: tomorrow's gonna be that trash back.
Speaker 1: Day or by the Scottish that's the worst of Taylor's.
Speaker 3: Face a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, if I'm feeling stuff, I can only imagine,
Speaker 2: like I'm sure he's feeling I'm sure he's feeling that
Speaker 2: shit too, whether or not. You've been on IR all years.
Speaker 2: So like, damn, this year, this page is actually gonna
Speaker 2: have to actually turn now. Vers talking about it all
Speaker 2: year long and anticipating it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. It is fucking it's hard. It's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to think about because like, my whole life
Speaker 1: has been playing football and lucky enough being really good
Speaker 1: at playing football. And now I'm looking, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 2: Obviously high school you dipped on your bad the shitty
Speaker 2: team went to the good team to get a championship
Speaker 2: or two.
Speaker 3: I respect, but uh, university is like, yeah, you're a
Speaker 3: Michigan for four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: NFL you've had, yeah, you've had You've had the ability
Speaker 2: to stay on one team for nine yeah, nine year,
Speaker 2: nine years.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's just crazy that it's like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: it's done. And I remember like being a rookie or
Speaker 1: like a second year or third year guy in the
Speaker 1: NFL and watching these old guys and them talking about
Speaker 1: how they like openly talking about how they're out of
Speaker 1: the prime, and I'm like, damn, fuck those guys, Like
Speaker 1: why are you talking like that? You don't even know,
Speaker 1: Like that's never gonna come for me. You never think
Speaker 1: like it's oh, now I'm thirty one, and it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if you looked at me on paper, like my
Speaker 1: prime has passed me, I could sit here and pretend like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still him. I could still do this, but
Speaker 1: like that part of it might be over and like
Speaker 1: who knows. Like let's say I did want to go
Speaker 1: play football again, I would have to sit there and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what are the logical expectations I need
Speaker 1: to have on myself for this season? Not only that,
Speaker 1: but what now I have to rego back into that
Speaker 1: headspace that you and I talk about all the time,
Speaker 1: where there is the I found so much success in
Speaker 1: football because I railroad to people. I had like a
Speaker 1: low key and narcissistic mentality like I have to get
Speaker 1: to where I need to go, and if anybody's in
Speaker 1: the way of that, they're just getting pushed aside. Emotions,
Speaker 1: all of them are getting pushed to the side, and
Speaker 1: I'm going and now I get hurt and The thing
Speaker 1: that when I got hurt this year I didn't hurt
Speaker 1: is bad emotionally because last year off season twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: I literally did everything I could. I was working my diet,
Speaker 1: My diet was on point, my conditioning was on point,
Speaker 1: my strength, like everything was on point. Like I was
Speaker 1: dialed the fuck in. You get hurt the second game
Speaker 1: of the season. It literally is one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like I did everything I could during that journey,
Speaker 1: even though like the result is not what I wanted.
Speaker 1: So I literally separated myself way easier than I I
Speaker 1: thought I would from feeling negative emotions while still working
Speaker 1: through them, Like I started feeling like happier, Like I
Speaker 1: started realizing, oh, I don't have to act like this.
Speaker 1: I started doing like self work, being like how do
Speaker 1: I work on me so I don't have to feel
Speaker 1: this resentment from this person or that person because of
Speaker 1: how a railroad in the past trying to get to
Speaker 1: the top of wherever I was. And now it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if I want to go play football again, the only
Speaker 1: thing I know how to play football at a high
Speaker 1: level is to go back into that mindset. But it's
Speaker 1: so difficult to do once you realize what you've been
Speaker 1: doing to people. You know what I'm saying, it's so much,
Speaker 1: it's so difficult. That's why people like, it's hard for
Speaker 1: people to understand what it takes to be a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: a professional athlete alone, but an elite professional athlete, Like
Speaker 1: it's very you have to be so selfish and it's
Speaker 1: fucking it's hard, so not to like, I have to
Speaker 1: go and reevaluate that because we literally I've I was telling, well,
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm done. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to play anymore. The second that game ended,
Speaker 1: then they took a knee. I was like, maybe I
Speaker 1: should do one more. Maybe I can. And then you
Speaker 1: start playing that fucking same game you've played in your
Speaker 1: head over and over again where it's like you could
Speaker 1: come back and do X, Y and Z. What a comebackstory,
Speaker 1: And now you're rewriting that story in your head that
Speaker 1: only you really know. Yeah, so I'm like, fuck, it's
Speaker 1: been a weird couple of days for me. It's been
Speaker 1: a very weird couple of days. Like something, I gotta
Speaker 1: sit with him, figure out.
Speaker 3: Get any words of advice for the boy?
Speaker 1: You got any advice from me.
Speaker 4: I mean, should take it one day at a time,
Speaker 4: Like that's the bemaz thing. I feel like sometimes you
Speaker 4: get caught up in like that cliche, like you know,
Speaker 4: take it one day at a time, like one media
Speaker 4: at time. Well, I mean it's literally real. It's like
Speaker 4: how you feel right now won't affect how you feel
Speaker 4: right now, like the emotions of the situation that the
Speaker 4: season ending, Like there's just a ton of emotions just
Speaker 4: thrown right at you.
Speaker 1: But things like just taking time to just like chill,
Speaker 1: take it a day at a time.
Speaker 4: And then like personally, I know you're trying to figure
Speaker 4: out like should am I gonna come back and play football?
Speaker 1: Just play ball? It's like I feel like, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people ask me why.
Speaker 4: When you just go like do engineering, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like in six years, like you didn't get
Speaker 4: your opportunity, are you just go do engineering? And like
Speaker 4: the biggest thing for me is like I played football
Speaker 4: since I was five. I'm sure it's probably similar story
Speaker 4: for you. And it's like the blessing that is to
Speaker 4: be a professional athlete and then to be at the top.
Speaker 4: It's like as long as at least for me as
Speaker 4: long as like I can do it, and the there's
Speaker 4: even an out of possibility that I can be a
Speaker 4: professional athlete playing the game that I have loved since
Speaker 4: I was five, I'll take it and run with it.
Speaker 4: So just like just putting that into perspective, like seeing
Speaker 4: all the emotions thrown at you, taking a breath, taking
Speaker 4: a day at a time, and then going from there
Speaker 4: and then all right, I want to do this, and
Speaker 4: then working hard every single day at it. It's kind
Speaker 4: of that's my mindset, and I know that's as you said,
Speaker 4: that's been your mindset. Just because you've recognized you're in
Speaker 4: a different headspace doesn't mean you can't be that same
Speaker 4: player in a different headspace, yea.
Speaker 2: Or it also doesn't mean too like me, Like again,
Speaker 2: I'm not like trying to speak for you or nothing
Speaker 2: like that, but I'm saying, even for me, if you decide,
Speaker 2: like one day you wake up and just decide, like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm not as interested, Like that's all obviously all right
Speaker 2: too for sure. Yeah, I mean if you're yeah, because
Speaker 2: not always it's always a tough thing about getting out
Speaker 2: of it is there's there's people like there were always,
Speaker 2: uh you know, like family members or people in your
Speaker 2: close circle that you know they think like you need
Speaker 2: to be putting more focus in the football versus like
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's like doing more of this
Speaker 2: stuff like hey, why aren't you trying to be in
Speaker 2: a training camp and stuff like that, And it's like
Speaker 2: being okay with like releasing yourself of those expectations, you know,
Speaker 2: like that's like.
Speaker 4: The hardest part, like the outside expectation, right, because you
Speaker 4: said that to you said.
Speaker 2: Too in the ending, your journey is obviously different, but
Speaker 2: the ending is like, you know, you could still be
Speaker 2: the same player in the same breath.
Speaker 3: But it's also good. It's also fine if you're.
Speaker 4: Like not one tough, if you just if you, I mean,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like you, each of us,
Speaker 4: you know, we've earned I feel like the work we've
Speaker 4: put in just in our craft, whether it's on the field,
Speaker 4: just in life, like earn the ability to be able
Speaker 4: to do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Which is which is which is which is powerful?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the majority doesn't get to do that.
Speaker 2: So even understanding that perspective that exactly we're in the
Speaker 2: position to even get to choose what our path will be.
Speaker 1: It is aweful. Yeah, yeah, it is is fucking It's
Speaker 1: an interesting predicament to be in because I don't know
Speaker 1: you guys, but I'm sure this conversation happened in the
Speaker 1: locker room all the time where it's like how many
Speaker 1: years do you want to play in the NFL? And
Speaker 1: my answer for that day, yeah, yeah, how long you
Speaker 1: want to do yeah? And like the majority people will
Speaker 1: say ten I never said ten hours, said this cliche line.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play football till I win.
Speaker 1: And it was not like win a super Bowl whatever,
Speaker 1: just feel like whatever. Basically it was like fulfillment. Like
Speaker 1: if I feel like I've won the game of football,
Speaker 1: where like I've done what I needed to do in
Speaker 1: this game to leave an impression that I'm proud of,
Speaker 1: then I am. I'm good. And if I said about it,
Speaker 1: I'm like I've done that. I've I've I've conquered individual
Speaker 1: accolades to the highest degree. I've we talked about this
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I was a part of team a
Speaker 1: team that was awful two and fourteen, three and thirteen
Speaker 1: the next year and was a massive part after seeing
Speaker 1: so much turnover in the locker room being a foundational
Speaker 1: piece and changing a culture on a franchise like I take.
Speaker 1: I take so much parte in that. And so now
Speaker 1: it's like, what are my whys to go play football?
Speaker 1: Because if it's if it's for money, I'm out, Like
Speaker 1: there's I will not play football just to I've made it.
Speaker 1: I've made money. I am I'm gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: But it's now it's like a long like obviously if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play somewhere, I have to be I
Speaker 1: have to make I have to make money that I'm worth.
Speaker 1: But there has to be another fighting urge, whether it's
Speaker 1: I need another year, I like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know urge at the moment. Right now, I do
Speaker 1: Right now, I do a little bit. I have a
Speaker 1: it's tough. I'm loyal to the soil, like I. I
Speaker 1: literally came back from my fifth year at Michigan when
Speaker 1: I could have been a top ten pick the year before,
Speaker 1: like an idiot, because I thought we're gonna wan to
Speaker 1: make the championship and I wanted to bring greatness back
Speaker 1: to Michigan. We were like we were in the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Wowings Bowl my senior year. We lost in the state
Speaker 1: like forty four to ten. No, you were fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: And if if I just sat there logically and looked
Speaker 1: at the roster, I go, oh, we're not going to
Speaker 1: be good next year. You should dip. But I'm just
Speaker 1: a loyal guy. So like the thought of me be
Speaker 1: in a in a different uniform besides the Titans, like
Speaker 1: that does not sit well with me, you know. But
Speaker 1: also like watching the demise of Taylor Lawan, I sit
Speaker 1: there and like, you know, do you want to be
Speaker 1: a guy on the Titans that just was good? Or
Speaker 1: can I still be good? And so if I truly
Speaker 1: believe that my knees straight because nothing else in my
Speaker 1: body hurts, my fingers fucked up, my thumbs fucked up,
Speaker 1: but that they work. So if nothing else hurts, and
Speaker 1: I know I can be a not maybe not as
Speaker 1: good as I used to be, but still a very
Speaker 1: above average football player, then I have still need to
Speaker 1: give to the Titans. Still, It's just about figuring out
Speaker 1: what I truly want, because it it'd be ridiculous to
Speaker 1: not sit here. I stay on this bus once a
Speaker 1: week with the boys, and we travel all around the
Speaker 1: country and it's fucking awesome. This is so this is
Speaker 1: so much fun and it's doing well. I know you
Speaker 1: don't watch, but you should. We gotta get numbers. I watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah you're three two or three cat,
Speaker 1: But it's cool, man. It's just about it's just about
Speaker 1: evaluating that stuff. Yea, evaluating and finding out. But they
Speaker 1: taking one day at a time. I don't have to
Speaker 1: make the decision right now. I just to keep gathering
Speaker 1: information so I can make the best decision for myself
Speaker 1: and my family. Yeah, that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you say the loyalty thing, but what about the
Speaker 2: first your first high school team?
Speaker 3: What about those boys?
Speaker 5: That was not?
Speaker 1: Yeah that was and I only want a championship with
Speaker 1: that high school team. Sophomore year we won state fifteen.
Speaker 1: And oh so you do on the boys. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: my dad made me transfer, forced me kicking and screaming
Speaker 1: to transfer. Transferring high school is kind of like the
Speaker 1: hardest thing to do. Yeah, O hard, dude. And my
Speaker 1: boys I have, like I literally have ro Minrole six
Speaker 1: tattooed here and here for my boys the Sexy six
Speaker 1: or the dirty half does and wanted whichever one you
Speaker 1: want to choose. But like we were all a bunch
Speaker 1: of ugly focks too, like curly haired it's and ship
Speaker 1: like it was just funny. But they like I left
Speaker 1: and there was one guy, Nick Bennett, who like came
Speaker 1: to the school my first day and like when I
Speaker 1: noticed it with that lunch called me was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot. We had sub boy sandwich
Speaker 1: is waiting for me and we went and sat in
Speaker 1: the bleachers. But all the other boys basically like you're
Speaker 1: a trader, like fuck you. Now obviously we've all had
Speaker 1: those conversations. Were all good, but it was fu because
Speaker 1: it was something I've We're all in a good place now,
Speaker 1: but we were legit, like I legit was forced to transfer. Now,
Speaker 1: it's the best decision ever happened. Like I played one
Speaker 1: year off the line and was able to go to Michigan.
Speaker 1: So it was the best decision I ever made in
Speaker 1: my life. That wasn't even I didn't even make it.
Speaker 1: So it was a good deal. But loyal, you don't
Speaker 1: see any other buses. What I don't go in any
Speaker 1: other buses. I stay on this bus. Loyals of the soil,
Speaker 1: loyal to the soil. I think two thirty four is
Speaker 1: a long time for a podcast.
Speaker 3: I do think it is. I'll ask my other questions
Speaker 3: off the when we get out of here. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'm sure the boys back there, they're probably like, fuck man, no,
Speaker 3: not you guys like you. I'm talking about the guest,
Speaker 3: our guests. Oh yeah, I'm talking about our guests.
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Speaker 3: Your horn fox had no time. I hope say one
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Speaker 1: My fucking finger kind of cocked out for a second.
Speaker 3: We got them.
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Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I think either Chiefs. I don't think I think the
Speaker 1: Bills are good.
Speaker 4: I don't like the offense is like, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're ask us just as the Chiefs are the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Or I think the Chiefs are gonna win it. Try
Speaker 4: thinking the NFC, who could give a run? Eagles Eagles? Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I feel like I feel like the Chiefs versus
Speaker 4: the Eagles in the in the chance in in the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, like the Chiefs are gonna outscore them.
Speaker 3: I can't have the Chiefs win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Well, I just I like to go from the hot
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