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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Busting with

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Speaker 1: the Boys.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs and winning the national

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Boys, Yeah, let's go. Let's pray to God that hey

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Speaker 1: correctly the national championship. Will we played in a couple hours.

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Speaker 1: But we're riding with the horn Frogs today. They took

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Speaker 1: down my boys a couple weeks ago. Do they earn

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Speaker 1: the win? That's not for us to say. We haven't

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Speaker 1: said that, but people are saying that maybe they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Michigan lost it more than they want it. That

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Speaker 1: is not the case. But what is the case is

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Speaker 1: that the playoffs are finally upon us, but one team

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Speaker 2: I've heard some rumors are moving that Chevy coming on

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Speaker 2: with us in a big way this year. A lot

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Speaker 3: Oh that's that's that's that's girl talk, that's girl stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's got Yeah, I would I would like to if

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Speaker 1: the sales team has got some too. Boys got them

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Speaker 1: to the boys, Barstool sales team need to kind of

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Speaker 1: throw in there. Hey, why don't you throw the boys

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Speaker 1: a couple of free Chevyes because that'd be nice.

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Speaker 3: Like, Hey, I don't know how we're selling this, but.

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Speaker 2: We should easily have a couple of Chevyes in the

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Speaker 2: equation just waiting for the boys, right Like I already

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Speaker 2: got wanted it as a fucking badass like.

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Speaker 1: The new the New twenty five hundreds. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of those.

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Speaker 3: Market.

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Speaker 1: You're in the market for a vehicle right now? I

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Speaker 1: need one on my Coldstone Creamery. I gotta have it.

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Speaker 1: We have a very long podcast for you guys today

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Speaker 1: and honestly, we want to stop it three or four times,

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Speaker 1: but truly. It was an incredible podcast. We had Josh

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Speaker 1: Dobbs on. We spoke about football, We spoke about football,

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Speaker 1: We spoke about football, We spoke about the Jacksonville, about

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game that just happened, some decisions that he

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Speaker 1: should or should not have made. Did he know his

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Speaker 1: third down? Did you think? Did he know was fourth down?

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Speaker 1: Did you think it was third down?

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Speaker 3: The lockdown?

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Speaker 1: Why the checkdown? Was that a forward pass? We talked

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Speaker 1: about his past at Tennessee. Jack McPherson had an incredible

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Speaker 1: question for him late in the podcast, real real late,

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Speaker 1: but he came in with a Haymaker of a question.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. Man's an astrophysicist, is he true?

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Speaker 2: He's a rocket science He's a rocket science certified rocket

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Speaker 2: He works with NASA.

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Speaker 1: He started talking like literally, We like, well, was like,

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Speaker 1: what else should we talk about? Oh, rocket scientists? And

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Speaker 1: he started laying down information using words that I have

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Speaker 1: to go google later. I had to call Charle ask

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Speaker 1: her about the definition of some of those words.

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Speaker 3: His mouth wide open.

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Speaker 1: You were consuming all of it, dude. It was. It

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Speaker 1: was truly incredible. I hope you guys enjoy it is awesome.

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Speaker 1: You talk Your talk now, the Tier talk was our

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Speaker 1: favorite planets, So you're gonna have to look into that.

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Speaker 1: It might sound very elementary, but I think hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot of good information in that. Boy, we're gonna paint

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Speaker 1: a nice little picture for you. Someone got a little

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Speaker 1: mad during their spiel. I'm not gonna say who it was.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna point fingers, but some individual sitting in

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Speaker 1: a chair right now probably didn't handle their Tier talk

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Speaker 1: the best way they probably could have.

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Speaker 3: They were very aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Now, who was on this podcast? We in real time

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Speaker 1: found out about the firing of Todd Downing Keith Carter,

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Speaker 1: and I believe his name is Anthony Midget. I say

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Speaker 1: I believe because I literally have said sixteen words to

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Speaker 1: Anthony Midget since he was on the Titans.

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Speaker 2: It is Black Monday, so there's a lot of like

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Speaker 2: turnover happening in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that is something you will see my reaction.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to react really, So that'll be

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Speaker 1: for you guys at Dissect. Let me know what you

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Speaker 1: guys think. With that being said, I know it's a

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Speaker 1: short intro. Is there anything you want to put down?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. We talk about a lot of

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Speaker 3: the the.

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Speaker 2: Mental headspace of guys, like one of season ends where

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Speaker 2: you're in Dab's see your see we get in the

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Speaker 2: end of my host field for you, Jeff Simmons coming

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Speaker 2: up with this big contract, Josh Jacobs with this fifth

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Speaker 2: year option and had bags in the middle fingers to

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Speaker 2: the league. We dive into that stuff. But yeah, other

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Speaker 2: than that, Bro, you covered it. You covered it well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching right now, I know we're on the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: The YouTube has been jumping John. That was a nice

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Speaker 2: show outing last week for the YouTube channel, just the

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Speaker 2: two boys too, right. There were over a thousand people

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Speaker 2: watching at one point time. I remember seeing that thinking like,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, that's awesome. Yeah, but if you're watching right now,

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Speaker 2: make sure to leave our real live comment, not like

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Speaker 2: obviously we're in the chat making friends all day long,

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Speaker 2: but go jump in the real under the real comments

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Speaker 2: and drop a comment.

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Speaker 3: Hack the algorithm for the boys a little bit. We

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Speaker 3: are a big years in the.

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Speaker 1: Making, big years in the making, and you guys started

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Speaker 1: off real fucking hot, yeah, real hot. In the first episode.

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Speaker 1: I did not think the numbers like that were gonna

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Speaker 1: happen so fast. So we do really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: This CeAl called millions, millions, the whole point five. It

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Speaker 3: does not yet, it does not matter what too.

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Speaker 1: There's something's wrong with their website. But I did see that.

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Speaker 1: I heard that. I was on that call with you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you let the public know about that.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, boys, please enjoy this episode of

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Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys. Like Will said, live comment not

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Speaker 1: live chat, correct, So you might be in the chat

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Speaker 1: do all these things for us, and we can keep

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Speaker 1: doing things for you. Thank you so much. Please enjoy

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Speaker 1: the fuck out of this episode. Tell you what you

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Speaker 1: excited to be on. Yeah, I'm stoked. I'm stoked, and

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Speaker 1: I'll also like everything I transpired the last three weeks,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how long it's been, like twenty days,

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Speaker 4: No way, I think the game was eighteen days.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. You gotta put that mic up a

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Speaker 1: little closer to your face when we do start. We're

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Speaker 1: kind of rolling right now. It can be staying if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't when you got the call. Where

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Speaker 1: were you when you got the call from the Titans.

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Speaker 4: So I was in the in the QB meeting after Detroit,

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Speaker 4: so listen. So I woke up in Cleveland, and so,

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Speaker 4: like Detroit, the clean was like two hours. So I

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Speaker 4: the night, shipped home all my Christmas stuff, like wash

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I drove to Detroit, had practice.

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Speaker 4: They went through like a full basically Wednesday, and then

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Speaker 4: I was in the QB meeting afterwards, and they're like,

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Speaker 4: my agent called me I practiced. I called him back.

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Speaker 4: He said, I think the Titans want to sign you.

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Speaker 4: And he's like, all right, this could be one of

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Speaker 4: So going back to the meeting, sat there with phone

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Speaker 1: So it's my agent calling. Said, yeah, they want to

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Speaker 4: And then Ryan called, and then I walked back in

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Speaker 1: No way, is there a team meeting or what meeting?

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Speaker 1: Was the quarterback meeting meeting? Yeah, quarterback meeting. Whilli was

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Speaker 1: officially on the bus those of you. Yeah, we just started,

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Speaker 1: I mean talking, and then I saw the numbers rolling,

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Speaker 1: so I thought we might as well just get going.

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Speaker 1: My man, my man's in Cleveland, so I'm assuming you

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Speaker 1: live in Cleveland full time.

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Speaker 3: That's like, that's.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean no, no, no, no, no, I'll come like

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Speaker 4: a nomad, like a one make Nashville home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I started just talking about I just have an apartment

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Speaker 1: You were driving from Cleveland to Detroit. Driving from Cleveland

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Speaker 1: from his agent. Agent calls his agent back. He's like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Titans might want to sign you, but you don't know,

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Speaker 1: like it might be one of those things who knows

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Right He's sitting in a meeting, his

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Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, they definitely want to sign you. And

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Speaker 1: then he gets on the phone with R. C Ryan

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Speaker 1: Cowden and then that's where we're at right now. So

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Speaker 1: he said, hey, you walk, So you walk back in

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Speaker 1: the meeting and you're like, I gotta go.

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, He's like, there's an eighth fifteen flight.

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Speaker 4: Can you make it. It's like six o'clock yeah, in Detroit.

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Speaker 4: And they're like, we want you to dress on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, I got think the eight fifteen flight

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'll make it.

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Speaker 4: So I went straight in the room and said, I

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Speaker 4: know I've been here for two weeks, but I got

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Speaker 4: a head to the airport. The Titans are shining me

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Speaker 4: like shook, Jared Nate brew shook. Everyone's saying his QB room.

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Speaker 4: So it was up to the OC upstairs in the

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Speaker 4: GM went straight to the airport. So I'm showing like

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Speaker 4: that same bag, I got like four pairs of sweatpants,

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Speaker 4: two pairs.

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Speaker 1: Of jeans, just dugging it, just tugging through it. Dude,

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Speaker 1: dugging it. That's wild. What's the head coach's name for

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Speaker 1: the lines, Dan Campbell? Dan Campbell? What was his You're

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Speaker 1: only there for two weeks, but what was his vibe?

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Speaker 1: Because he seems like it's awesome the football guy. He

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Speaker 1: seems like, hey, people would argue, not us. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna argue this. People are saying he might be cool

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Speaker 1: with the Mike Vrabel from like a from like a

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Speaker 4: Would say they're both up there because they played, you

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Speaker 3: We all got our you know.

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Speaker 1: He performed in my golf tournament last year. Yeah that

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Speaker 4: OTAs in the camp and you would get the practice script,

439
00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,320
Speaker 4: there wouldn't be one play on it. The quarterbacks will

440
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960
Speaker 4: call the entire practice. So you just get the line,

441
00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,320
Speaker 4: you look at the situations like first and ten left hash,

442
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760
Speaker 4: and you just call whatever play you want it because

443
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,879
Speaker 4: that's what Ben would do in the game sometimes. And

444
00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,120
Speaker 4: so it was cool, like we're basically like a little

445
00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,520
Speaker 4: oc calling your own plays and four So like as

446
00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 4: a rookie, you're out there calling drive and four verts

447
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,359
Speaker 4: every play just to find a completion, take a side.

448
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,639
Speaker 1: But then once you get in the.

449
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,320
Speaker 4: Year two, year three, you're all right, let me try

450
00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,800
Speaker 4: to set them up, let me let me call this,

451
00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800
Speaker 4: let me try to throw this guy. So you get

452
00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,919
Speaker 4: to actually like work the game and work on like

453
00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,680
Speaker 4: being a play called.

454
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,600
Speaker 2: Who are you asking questions to them to kind of

455
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,359
Speaker 2: learn about two minute and everything else? If it's like

456
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 2: quarterback is the kind of call their script? Are you

457
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 2: like really asking Ben, like, Hey, what's going on in

458
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,440
Speaker 2: your mind? Why are you calling X, Y and Z?

459
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 4: I would ask him a little bit, but he kind

460
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,360
Speaker 4: of like he doesn't really like to like talk about like.

461
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:12,639
Speaker 1: Why he does.

462
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 4: He kind of likes to just do it. And then

463
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,919
Speaker 4: you can like ask him for little stuff.

464
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,480
Speaker 3: There's more playing chess at all time.

465
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 1: He's just playing chess all so really he's playing multiple games.

466
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 2: That's yeah, like okay, I'll give you a little bit,

467
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 2: but not too much because zactly want to play as long.

468
00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: As exactly so I would.

469
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,920
Speaker 4: What were you do is like you will watch him,

470
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,040
Speaker 4: like he'll call a couple of plays and then it's

471
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,840
Speaker 4: a funny thing like some of the plays that he liked.

472
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,439
Speaker 4: You didn't really know if you didn't didn't like him,

473
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,920
Speaker 4: or like couldn't really execute him until you did it.

474
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 4: So like he would call it play and then you

475
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 4: would go in and because it looked cool and call

476
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 4: it and it wouldn't work.

477
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Speaker 1: Like I ain't ever call hi that play.

478
00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, it.

479
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 1: Was smooth, like two minute two minutes.

480
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,119
Speaker 4: In practice, the QB will get to call it, so

481
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 4: you're kind of like dialing up.

482
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 1: But you guys had like basic stuff like the Titans

483
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 1: to be right, where you have a number system or

484
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,120
Speaker 1: like different code names with.

485
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,639
Speaker 4: The number system and stuff that you could get through

486
00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,040
Speaker 4: at tempo, but clock stop out of bounds, especially in

487
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 4: the practice situation, like you come to huddle if you're

488
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 4: feeling it, you could just call whatever you want and

489
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 4: go from there.

490
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 1: Damn, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, well you get

491
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,360
Speaker 1: no situationally, like what the hell is going on too?

492
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 4: You're like, well, we always were practiced that you needed

493
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,440
Speaker 4: a touchdown to win, so you could be aggressive at spots.

494
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 4: But it was cool because you were put in that

495
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 4: pressure cooker situation and it was all on you.

496
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 1: You know.

497
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 4: Like sometimes like CBS, they can get handcuffed with plays.

498
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 4: Sometimes they oh I didn't like that play. Yeah, so

499
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 4: then you go a pick or incomplete behind the chains.

500
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 4: But just you picking the play, I mean you can't.

501
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 4: There's no excuse.

502
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 1: It's on you. Yeah, need to go out there. He

503
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: feels about that. If you were to have the title

504
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 1: of OC at Pittsburgh with them, you're like, I'm really

505
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 1: not really, I'm not just here to watch the game.

506
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd almost like cause you're you ultimately want to

507
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: play into the strength of your players, Like you have

508
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 2: somebody like Ben Roethlisberger there, he's been doing a long time.

509
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure they've had plenty of conversations to where it's like, hey,

510
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 2: do your thing out there.

511
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

512
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it comes from like coach t just

513
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 4: giving players that freedom. I mean they know Ben. Ben's

514
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 4: like a point guard back there. Yeah, with the way

515
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 4: he plays his hands.

516
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 2: Want to just be disrespectful, like in the situation of

517
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 2: the Tys, A Dobbs comes in and and Rage looks

518
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: at uh uh Todd and it's like, hey, don't worry

519
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: about calling two minute, Josh Dobbs is gonna call it.

520
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: Then that's where I feel like you.

521
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 2: You probably feel some type of way of coordinator, like

522
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: fuck man, you want to Yeah, yeah, their arms crossed.

523
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: I kind of just waiting to see what happens. Dude.

524
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: Since we're talking about the Titans, I definitely like you

525
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: signed and you're starting that week, like talk about your

526
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: mental space leading up to that week because you you

527
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: started twice. You started twice now like you just literally

528
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: was thrown into the fire with the Tennessee Titans. Like

529
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: talk about you signing, you get here, you realize, Okay,

530
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: they might want to sign me to where Oh I'm

531
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 2: the fucking guy this week.

532
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 3: I better keep a ship going.

533
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: It was well on before before you into that, did

534
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: they say you were the guy right away? So they so?

535
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 1: Because I know the leak right, Yeah.

536
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 4: So the first week last week, I didn't start, but

537
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 4: they said, we want you to dress. So I got

538
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 4: there Wednesday morning in the game was Saturday, and they're like,

539
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna dress you as the two for the game.

540
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 4: So it's like okay, I could play. And then the

541
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 4: next day it was Christmas. After the game, they said, hey,

542
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 4: can you come back early because we think we're gonna

543
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 4: start you Thursday night against the Cowboys.

544
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, for sure. I mean, here's the thing.

545
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Like outside looking at right, it's a

546
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 4: crazy situation, like, bro, you've been there like a week,

547
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 4: like you gotta go start this game, like there's a

548
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 4: lot of pressure behind it, all this stuff. But from

549
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: like inside looking out like me, it's like to start

550
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 4: an NFL football game.

551
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: It's something we went on for six years.

552
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: So for you to say, like, okay, you got five

553
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 4: days to get ready for it, that's plenty of time,

554
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, that's that's almost a lot

555
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: of time to get ready for it. To understand they

556
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 4: play book. I might have got nothing else to do.

557
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: I got one bag of clothes, you know, and nowhere

558
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 4: to go. So it's just a tremendous opportunity, man, just

559
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: to go out there play ball.

560
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, I thought it Obviously I expected to.

561
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 4: Have more starts before going to my six year. But

562
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 4: to get that opportunity to go out and play and

563
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 4: play well and.

564
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: Just embrace it. I had a lot of fun with it.

565
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: On Primetime too, Cowboys.

566
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: Primetime getst the Cowboys at home. I mean, there's there's

567
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 4: there's nothing, there's nothing better than that.

568
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you live for. You live for those opportunities

569
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: just to go out and when you're in Nashville, Tennessee,

570
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: and you play at the Dallas Cowboys on primetime, there

571
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: is no home game if you're in Nashville or you're

572
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: in so many Cowboys fans there. Oh dude, That's how

573
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: it was. My rookie Yar too, we played them. We

574
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: were in silent the whole game. I mean at that

575
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: point we won one game. It was like week thirteen.

576
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, we did the same thing.

577
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: We're like, let's go side and also work because we

578
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: knew we're gonna play in Jacksonville is gonna be rocking anyway. Now,

579
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 4: it might as well practice, especially but it'd be my

580
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 4: first time doing it.

581
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: You make you played well.

582
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: Once you get past the first couple of plays, where

583
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: were the nerves like leading up to the game.

584
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're excited. You're like, You're like, you have plenty

585
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: of time to get rid of for a game, like you're.

586
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: You're in the book.

587
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 3: You're in the book, You're in the book.

588
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: You ready, Yeah, and then the day comes and it's

589
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 2: a night game, so it's like, man, I got to

590
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: change hotels, get in that hoyeah all day about the

591
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: mindset the nerves look bit, You're like, it's fucking yeah.

592
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: So it's like you you rather just wake up and play,

593
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: you know, just get the one o'clock games so you

594
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: don't have to sit all day because you sit in

595
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: the hotel all day. You look at the game playing

596
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 4: a thousand times, and then by the end of it,

597
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, what are they going. You're trying

598
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: to you're trying to play the game in your head,

599
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: you're trying to anticipate plays, and then sure, you haven't

600
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 4: been out there since the preseason. So the first couple

601
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: of plays, like it was moving fast, like guys were

602
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: flying around.

603
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: It's like you saw what coverage it they were in.

604
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 4: But just then going out and like actually, like okay,

605
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 4: I got catched the ball. I got to execute the

606
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 4: play rather than just mentally executing it. It took a

607
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 4: couple of plays just to get back in the group.

608
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: But once the once I got back in the flow,

609
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 4: it was smooth. It was just like, all right, this

610
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: is just football, you know, And that's like, that's like

611
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: the best thing, Like anytime you make the jump from

612
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: any level, right, first time playing in high school, you know,

613
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: you're nervous about the first game college. Same thing, and

614
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: the same thing because you're nervous about the speed of

615
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: the game. You're nervous about whatever the opposing players are.

616
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: And then you get out there, it's just football game

617
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 4: I've been playing for a long time.

618
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it does move a lot faster. It

619
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: doesn't move a lot faster. Those five days you're like, oh,

620
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: that's playing time to get ready mentally for a game

621
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: like learning to playbook. How much time did you take?

622
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: And look at like the personnel because you come into

623
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: your situation for you individually, is an amazing situation because

624
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm looking to start, I'm looking to play

625
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: Tennessee gave you that and you're like, all right, that's awesome.

626
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: Let's to check that out the list. Now you look

627
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: at the roster and you go, holy fuck, it's a

628
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: lot of guy there's no like this is a loose term.

629
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: There's nobody on the team anymore. Well, you're you're playing

630
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: with guys that weren't original starters week one.

631
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

632
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, So when I signed, I looked at the

633
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: roster and like the first you just scroll through the ross,

634
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: see who you know, Like, okay, I got to know

635
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: this guy. Now I looked, I got got down and

636
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: it's like injury reserved. Yeah, I was like longer than

637
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: looking at the active roster like dang, there's so many

638
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: guys out.

639
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: So no, there's a lot of young players. I think

640
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: that was like going into.

641
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 3: A situation where they're on like three or four game

642
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: losing streak.

643
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: A yeah, they're what we lost seven in a row? Seven? Yeah,

644
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: five at that point right, yeah, like it was four

645
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: because you came in and you were sitting behind the

646
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: leak when you Yeah, but go, so like how did

647
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: you work through that process? You give a couple of

648
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: receivers and be like listen, like you like a Robert

649
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: Woods is the first person that comes to mind spinning

650
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Lee for a while before he got hurt. He had

651
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: four one thousand yard seasons like if without playing quarterback ever,

652
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, I need a lifeline guy around here,

653
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: like Austin Hooper, I need Robert Woods. Like were there

654
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: guys who wouldn't approached. It was like this is I

655
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck's going on, but I need

656
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: to know that I need someone to bail me out

657
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: once in a while. Yeah.

658
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: So I would just tell him just like stick with me,

659
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: Like that was the biggest thing on the side.

660
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, stick with me.

661
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 4: I have to scramble, especially like a Woody Yeah who

662
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: because I knew like those guys who played a ton

663
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 4: of ball and so I was like, yo, just stick

664
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 4: with me. But the crazing was so for the Thirst

665
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 4: nine game, we didn't get any live reps in practice.

666
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Because it was a short week like walk through. I mean,

667
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: that's yeah, which is fantastic late in the year, but

668
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: if you're just coming into it, you're like, bro, I

669
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: could use the little speed some of the throws in

670
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: the game.

671
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: That was like the first time I'd ever thrown that

672
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: route to the to the receiver live like we threw

673
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: try to throw trailer and strike. It was about a

674
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 4: foot behind him, Like it was like back hip. I

675
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: was like, that's the first live strike route I've thrown

676
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: to him in my life. Yeah, we're throwing it like

677
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: thirty seven, you know, in the middle third quarter, a

678
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 4: huge play. So it was like little things like that

679
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: that you had to work through. Yeah, it was a

680
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: crazy process.

681
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: What's it meant for you to get that opportunity after

682
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: waiting patiently for six years?

683
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: It was some of that.

684
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 3: You've had such a.

685
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: Lot of pivots along the way, like being drafted by Pittsburgh,

686
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: getting traded, being cut, being on practice squad, being on

687
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: IR Like, You've had a lot of different situations come about.

688
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Then you go on practice squad for a couple weeks

689
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: with Detroit, you get a call, Oh shit, I'm going

690
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: to Tennessee. You're dressing that week, and then you're starting

691
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: these last two games, Like what does that meant to you?

692
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: Like, with all the time that's gone by in your career.

693
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: It was.

694
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: It was awesome in the world, you know, I wish

695
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: obviously the result of it of the two stars was

696
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: a little different, but just to be out there and play,

697
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: It's like I tell everyone this everyone's asking me, like,

698
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: what is it like, because people, you know, like, oh,

699
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: you're a backup cord and lead.

700
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: That's like the easiest job in the world. You're just chilling,

701
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: like watching other people play is largely thought of. I

702
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: think that right now what I'm ready for you to

703
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: change my mind Every year I'm like, yo, you're fucking

704
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: living the dream. Win a couple of games a year

705
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: and then yeah, exactly, Middle Reliever.

706
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I told him, is like it was

707
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: like in high school you have like the biggest tests

708
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: of your life, especially like before you first start, you

709
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: have the biggest EPs of your life. It's basically I

710
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: got to decide if you get to go on and

711
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: do everything you want in this world or not? Right,

712
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: And so you prepare every single week, and you know

713
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 4: that test is going to come on Friday. So every

714
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: single week Monday, you can wake up, you prepare for

715
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: the test Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, got the butterflies in your stomach,

716
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: and you wake up Friday and you don't take the test,

717
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 4: and then you do it again next week, and you

718
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: do it again next week.

719
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: Oh damn, next week, and then for me test? What

720
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: the talking about it? Yeah?

721
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: To me.

722
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Like you fround it all together. I was like, oh, ship,

723
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: that's a good fucking point.

724
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: And for me, I've done that for six years. I

725
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: mean like every Frida there is a test. I just

726
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: never know when wanna take it. And so like that's

727
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: the biggest sound whe remind myself. It is like you

728
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: don't know where you're gonna take the test, but you'll

729
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 4: do yourself a disservice if you're not ready to take

730
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: that test. So every single week I with prepares the

731
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna take the test, and I take

732
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 4: the test, hit reset. Some weeks are tougher than others,

733
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: but just keep pushing forward and shoot look up whenever,

734
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 4: whenever the test is done and succeed.

735
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: So so it is easy.

736
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: No, it's not easy, but shitty being like shitty being

737
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: a backup, and you got to do that every week

738
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: and you're like you're dressed and everything, like, man, I

739
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: gotta be ready.

740
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: You're so hyped up?

741
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: Ready can you get hyped up?

742
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Like it's because listen listening to you and that whole

743
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: thing right there, Like obviously you saw my mind get blown.

744
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: I was a vocal about it. But if six years

745
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: and you're studying for a test every single week, and

746
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: then that last like eventually once in a while you're like, fuck,

747
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: did this test ain't coming this way? Like I got

748
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: like if you're behind Ben right, dude's been playing forever.

749
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: He's like he's a statue in there, but he gets

750
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: the ballut relatively fast and he could take some hits.

751
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: There's got to be a level of being like, all right,

752
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe this I'm good this week.

753
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: All up, this defensive line is not good. That the

754
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: quarterback like that you do that. Second you do that,

755
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: you're thrown in there. So like, for instance, so second

756
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: everyone's back and I've been we'd be sitting there and

757
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: we're playing the.

758
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: Ravens, like late in the season.

759
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: It's cold, you're staying standing in Baltimore in the middle

760
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: of December for three hours, and I was already standing there.

761
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: It's probably it's like the fourth quarter, we're up to

762
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: like five points, we're coming out. I was like first

763
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: and fifteen, I'm like all right, like Ben got this,

764
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: like the game's over, Like I have my beanie on.

765
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: I was not chilling, like I was still in the game,

766
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: but it was like, but you're chilling. Yeah, you're you're

767
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: sitting there like, yeah, game's over.

768
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: We're good. Then goes to scramble. They were in like

769
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: pee Tampa two.

770
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: Then goes to scramble and the three technique like falls

771
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: on him and he's just like laying on the ground,

772
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: just out And in my head, I'm like this man

773
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: like just passed out on the field. So then like

774
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: that's when stomach drops. Sorry, get the helmet, like warm up,

775
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: you haven't thrown and pregame warm ups. We go out there,

776
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: it's like first and fifteen, second, fifteen. Coach he's like,

777
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: throw the deep over. They haven't covered it all day.

778
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I thought we were just gonna hand

779
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: it off. You're coming out of the end zone, crowds

780
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: going rout wild something quick exactly.

781
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: So and then that was like my that was my

782
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: first play in the league.

783
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: So threw over to Juju and then I go, okay,

784
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: I can do this, and then Ben walks back on

785
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: the field. He's fine, he shook it off. He just

786
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: got the wind knock out of him. But like all

787
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: that to say was I was staying on the sideline

788
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: five minutes before that, Like to your point, just they're

789
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: like like okay, like I'm not playing today, like the

790
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: game's over, and then the second you like seek that

791
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: comfort and you sit down, boom, you're thrown in there.

792
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 4: So I just like examples like data have occurred throughout

793
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: my career that I tried not to catch myself, like

794
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: in that role where it's like, oh, it's over. You know,

795
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: just always just finding ways to whether it's not a

796
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: routine or whether it's just the process of game prepared,

797
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: just to stay locked in because as I said, you

798
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: just do yourself with discredit if you're not ready for

799
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: the opportunity, right.

800
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, yeah, yeah, because there are definitely times where

801
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: you think you do think that way, especially depending how

802
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: long the season has been too, because in the beginning

803
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: seas you're kind of like you never know could have

804
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: been some of the coaches tell you I don't know

805
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: about for quarterback, but like linebacker, like oh you will

806
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: get you in here x y Z blah bah blah.

807
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: But there are definitely times where you can get in

808
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: some lulls of thinking about it. But he's right, like

809
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: the minute it does happen, anxiety that prepared you're because

810
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: that that week where I had got cutting and brought

811
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: back on practice squad and we were playing the Ravens.

812
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I was a little bit nervous because.

813
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: I, man, what team is this? The Titans?

814
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: This was the Titans.

815
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: This is a twenty eighteen.

816
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: This is the second thin with the Titans, twenty twenty.

817
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, man, you know, I hope

818
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't have to go in there like I'm you know, really.

819
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: That's a tough mindset too, right, right, I hope I

820
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: don't have to go in there.

821
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: Like I've been on practice squad this entire week.

822
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: They're just now telling me that I could play the

823
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to back up in the game, so Friday

824
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: or Saturday whenever they're doing and all the walk through stuff,

825
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm just behind uh Rashawan and Jayon just kind of

826
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: shadowing them because you know, it's Lamar Jackson. There's some

827
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: wrinkles in their run game and pass game that it's

828
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: like you can't just go in there with a dropback quarterback.

829
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: You feel a lot more comfortable coming off like a

830
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: practice squad situation. You're like, Okay, a lot of this

831
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: stuff is real general concepts that everybody kind of has. Yeah,

832
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: but the Ravens for whatever reason they got they got it.

833
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: It's like a different game plan that week. So since

834
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: I've been on practice squad that whole week, and then

835
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: they tell me like, hey, you could, You're we're gonna

836
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: activate you a practice squad after just getting cut. You're

837
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: just like, okay, well let me stand because I was

838
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: a little bit nervous. And that was the game. Jay

839
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: On fucking fucked up his elbow.

840
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: It was terrible.

841
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Then God he was wearing long sleeves.

842
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally I was in there. I was like,

843
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 2: thank god, I was going through just the walks through

844
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: some everything like that process. It always comes when you're

845
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: just not You're like the most unprepared and you have

846
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 2: like a type of anxiety of like man By going

847
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: in and looks stupid, like it's over.

848
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Lamar does make people look stupid.

849
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think of Lamar when he sees jam And

850
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: go down, who's a very athletic linebacker, and then you

851
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: walk out white. He always sees the white guy.

852
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, he doesn't work out for him.

853
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: But a white linebacker, a black linebacker goes out and

854
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: then a white light of recomenc he goes, oh, man,

855
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm running off that guy.

856
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

857
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is try being a white man chasing

858
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: the tackle, Lamar Jackson in this league, what can happen?

859
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Your only hope is making go east and west. I'd

860
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: be like, please, dog, cavalry in here exactly.

861
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Wait you find some time?

862
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, d.

863
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Like, all right, don't don't die out a diving board.

864
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: They'll sup under myself, all everything, everything, ninety miles right.

865
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I know, dude, Lamar is impressed. I hope he gets paid.

866
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: I hope he think you will for the Ravens. You

867
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go somewhere else. I don't know.

868
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna get paid. I don't know who

869
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: knows if it's going to be the number that one.

870
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the number he's wanting. I

871
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: don't know if he's like an irrational person or not.

872
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: But I've never met him. But I think I think

873
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: he'll get paid.

874
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: I think, I think.

875
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: But the OC's up for a job somewhere, so that

876
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: might that might shake shake some things up.

877
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: But I think it'll be interesting is how all the

878
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: gms and owners will look at the contract situation, because

879
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: I know he can he can throw the ball around,

880
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: but the running game is a big part of his

881
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: game and the life, the lifespan of like a running

882
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: back in the league.

883
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 3: And you can look back at.

884
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: Vic and all these guys, it's just wherever they see him,

885
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: like how long do we think?

886
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: Exactly how long can he play at that level type

887
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 4: of game that he plays.

888
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: As another element, that element shows that like they only

889
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: have so much tread on the tire because you can't

890
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: have like the way Lamar plays, he loses a step.

891
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: It definitely equalizes the game a little bit more.

892
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely equalizes the game. I wonder, yeah, I wonder if

893
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: he is going to him on the bus. Love that

894
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: Lamar's he follows you, right, Yeah, he's one of the boys.

895
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: He's one of the boys.

896
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah I was.

897
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: I actually made that joke to try being a white

898
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: on the field chasing Lamar Jackson. And it was one

899
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: of those ones where it was going out there to

900
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: different audiences and then people started to call me like

901
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: racist and ship like that, and then Lamar comes in

902
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: and laughs at and everything else.

903
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: So I'm good.

904
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: What if I yeah, you get one of the bros

905
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: on there, like.

906
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: It's that's like the old almost the equivalent of being like, oh,

907
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm not racist. My best friend's black, Like you got

908
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: that card right there.

909
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 2: He comes in and says something, it's like the guy

910
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

911
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like this, I'm good, you saw

912
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: him good.

913
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: People like that. People are like the hell time you

914
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: can invite to the cookout.

915
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, I'm I'm good.

916
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tell all my white boys, like, guys,

917
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: I got plans on Saturday.

918
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, you just want to hang out? I can't,

919
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: like we didn't ask you, but I'm doing. Yeah. I

920
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: hope he needs to kind of be like our boy

921
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and kind of do like the short three

922
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: year guaranteed contracts gets that gets the money bags money

923
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: tipping them things up. Huh do you think he deserves it? Yeah?

924
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: For sure. I mean I was just trying to see

925
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: if my boy's gonna slip get some headlines out here.

926
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: We got the same agent, so my Mike, yeah, might

927
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: be grinding.

928
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kurt, like we were actually talking about it this morning.

929
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: Like Kurt played the situation perfectly. You have to take

930
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: a little risk to get to the market for sure,

931
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: see what your market value is. And then that's where

932
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: if you're healthy and coming out coming out looking good

933
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: on scathed and free agency, you're able to leverage all

934
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: of your stuff to get it might be a lower ceiling,

935
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: but you'll get that fully guaranteed.

936
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: Contract ever since, ever since, every contract.

937
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, what we were in that conversation because

938
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: of Jeffer Simmons. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about his

939
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: fifth year auction coming up and if he's gonna, I

940
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, you know how the things, the things

941
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: get crazy when your contract is up and you've played well.

942
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Like I jokingly told Jeff, hey, I know we're not

943
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: the best friends. We got to fight in camp and

944
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: for some reason he's never let it go since then,

945
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: so like we're definitely the rocky going on. He holds

946
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: a grudge of big time. I was like, hey, I

947
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: want you to know, like our career is based on

948
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: where you're at right now. Are identical exact same as

949
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: far as accolates got. I was like, I hope to

950
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: god yours end's better than mine does. But and then

951
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: we had a whole conversation. You're right, you're ten loading Broton,

952
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: But we had a whole conversation of like fifth year

953
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: option and how that's gonna play out. He was like

954
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: asking about my stuff, and it's it's crazy the stuff

955
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: that he's got to go through now going into this

956
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: fifth year, because not only is the fifth year, he's

957
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: looking at two possible franchise tags as well, right, and

958
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna get money, but it's not like that money.

959
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'm I'm set in long term, Like yeah,

960
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: you want that, you want that contract, that says because

961
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, boom, he just lost a whole

962
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: bunch of money that way. I'm axio to see how

963
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: that plays out with the Titans.

964
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: As we're just in general, we were talking about the

965
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: different like mindset you can be in as a player,

966
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: like once your season abruptly ends, like for Jeff, he's like,

967
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: you know, you saw the post game video of him

968
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: like crying the locker at the locker like talking about

969
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: what it means, and you can just tell, you can

970
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: tell how much the game means to him. With it

971
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: all right, and for somebody to shoot up his ankle

972
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: the entire back half of the season to play and

973
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: try to get the boys.

974
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: Into the playoffs.

975
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: You know, as a player, you think in your mind,

976
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: the logo, the team, everybody, everybody's gonna be on the

977
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: same page. But the minute the season is over, you

978
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: go from this pack mentality to now this individual mentality,

979
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: because now it is all suddenly business, and that shooting

980
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: up and that playing hurt, and that the product you

981
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: end up putting on film most of the time gets

982
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: used against you in negotiations.

983
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: Right, just because it's strictly business.

984
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: I would assume the tiers are gonna do whatever possible

985
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: to retain somebody like Jeff, But a lot of guys

986
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: go into thinking I was doing it the honorable way

987
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: all year long, fighting for the boys, doing whatever I

988
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: can to get back here, feeling the pressures of the coach,

989
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: the training, sat fans, teammates, everybody, and I want to

990
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to. But then you turn around if

991
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: you're not in a situation to have like maybe it's

992
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: a leverage like Jeff has or somebody who usually it

993
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: does not work out for you that way, but you think, damn,

994
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought if I sacrifice and did all this,

995
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: you guys would take care of me.

996
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: And now you're using what just happened kind of against me. Yeah,

997
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: but you can't do that personal. Yeah, you can't take that.

998
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: But that's that's a lot of guys that usually get

999
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,479
Speaker 2: that bitter, and that's you just find out the teeth

1000
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: of the business that way, which is unfortunate.

1001
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: When you're young. You're kind of like naive about it.

1002
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: You think college, you get your first off season, you

1003
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: look at a vent, You're like, oh, we get the

1004
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: we get the next few months off. We don't have

1005
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: to come back until April. And you're like, oh shit,

1006
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: and you're just you know, you're just like a puppy.

1007
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: You're on this four year deal. If you if you

1008
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: get to you know, be with the team four years,

1009
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: you kind of just you have no clue until you

1010
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: get bit in the ass with the business side and

1011
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: you're thinking, damn, this is how it really is.

1012
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: I wonder. I think it's really is going to come

1013
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: down to whether Jeff is on the team or not

1014
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: as how much like how he wants to get paid

1015
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: because he's extremely talented. He's a top three d tackle

1016
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: in the league. From I think anybody, any GM would

1017
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: go and say the same thing, what is look up

1018
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's contract, because he's got the number one contract right,

1019
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: and it's he's that's a unique situation because Jeff has

1020
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: had two Pro Bowl seasons going into a contract year.

1021
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: But Aaron Donald is arguably one of the the greatest

1022
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: defensive players of all time, so his money is going

1023
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: to be crazy. Now does Jeff want to sit there

1024
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: and say I deserve to get paid as much or

1025
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: more than Aaron Donald's getting paid, because there's arguments for

1026
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: both sides. Jeff's younger, he's extremely disruptive, He's only getting better.

1027
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: How much he's a center piece you build around. He's

1028
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 3: a centerpiece.

1029
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: He's a centerpiece you build around. That's those words are

1030
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: way too small.

1031
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? What is it per year?

1032
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: Three years? Ninety five million? Right here, he's getting like

1033
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: thirty thirty something average. Because when we were talking to

1034
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: I was like, if they want to pay him like

1035
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: number one money, it's gotta be like around thirty.

1036
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1037
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: I wonder what the other d tackles like in the

1038
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: top five get if you look up, look up the

1039
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: top five, top five.

1040
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Gota be the Asian.

1041
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: Everybody negotiating on his behalf, like whether or not you

1042
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: believe whatever it is You're going to look at what

1043
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald's getting, because again you're making the argument that

1044
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial.

1045
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl player.

1046
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: He tackles.

1047
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Simmons is a perennial Pro Bowl player who you

1048
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: build around on defense. Like it doesn't you're like, oh,

1049
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: he's not as good ball up, but that's still what

1050
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna look to because that's what the market is

1051
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: at for superior defensive tackles.

1052
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 6: Four.

1053
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: See look, the drump from Aaron Donald down to number

1054
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: two is ten million dollars. Aaron Donald average per year

1055
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: is thirty one for one more year, one per year.

1056
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Forest Buckner, it's like.

1057
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Literally playing we're at the restaurant doing napkin math. It's

1058
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: like it looks like it could be like a twenty

1059
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: five a year thing. Literally, just making that up. I'm

1060
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 2: sure people use it for headlines.

1061
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: But franchise will get the average, right, you'll get the

1062
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: average on the top one, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah.

1063
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: Which is not batcause that's what they were That's what

1064
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: they were doing with Kirk Cousins.

1065
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 4: If they would tag him every year, he would tag

1066
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: him every year, and then the QB market kept going

1067
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 4: up every year they make him money.

1068
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: He kept getting jumped like five mil.

1069
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: Washington offered him three years seventy five million, fifty guaranteed loosely.

1070
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: That's that's not like exact, and Kirk was like, why

1071
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: would I make that. I'm going to make fifty no

1072
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: matter what, I'm gonna make more than that guaranteed just

1073
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: in the next two off my franchise tags exactly, So

1074
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: you got to come more correct than that. They played

1075
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: with him too much. He made it all the way

1076
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: to a free agency. Three teams had him at like

1077
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: north of ninety million dollars fully guaranteed, and then you

1078
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: end up going with Minnesota, probably with like taking all

1079
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 2: the financials involved with taxes and everything else.

1080
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 3: Kirk, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1081
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: How he ended up getting there because Jess looking at

1082
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: a fifth year option two tags.

1083
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I was looking at those top three tackles.

1084
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: It was Aaron, Donald Buckner, and then Chris Jones, both

1085
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: extremely talented. I wonder statistically what the difference between those

1086
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: those three and Jeff is, because I know I from

1087
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: what I've seen from Aaron or what I've heard about Aaron,

1088
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: is he didn't have like the best year this year

1089
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: compared to like his.

1090
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: Past all the rams went from Super Bowl to five

1091
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: and twelve.

1092
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they obviously he didn't have he didn't have

1093
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: a great year. But that's gonna be an uphill battle

1094
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: for Jeff if he wants to get above Aaron Donald

1095
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: right there, because that's such a crazy outlier. That's like

1096
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson for the Guards. He I think is like

1097
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: three four million dollars above the next highest paid guy.

1098
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: But how old is Jeff Jeff is fourth forty five

1099
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: years old. Man, Yeah, he's got and he's got he's

1100
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: got Aaron.

1101
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: Donald's on that thirty one, Like imagine Jeff at twenty seven,

1102
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: twenty eight.

1103
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then if I'm a GM and I'm just

1104
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: gonna argue that point, Aaron Donald's a generational talent, generation generationals,

1105
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: multiple generations talent, and is arguably one of the best

1106
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: in the world. I think at this point, Aaron Donald,

1107
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: at this at Jeff's point in his career, Aaron Donald

1108
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: already had like might have already had a defensive Play

1109
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: of the Year or we had like four All pros

1110
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: and he was like four time Pro Bowl, Like he

1111
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: had his resume. He his resume was just insane, and

1112
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: then it just kept going Yeah, Oh, it's like it's

1113
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: a hard argument. I hope Jeff gets that money. I'm

1114
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: just saying, like, I wonder where in his point if

1115
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: he's gonna think of it logically. And I think if

1116
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: he thought about it logically and sat down with himself

1117
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: and his agent and his asient was completely honest with him,

1118
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: his agent would say, you will be a top five

1119
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: pig guy, but I think it'll be more in the

1120
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: middle range of the top five, like the three. This

1121
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: is me without any information trying to talk about this.

1122
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the real market is other than

1123
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: the article we just looked at. But you're thinking like

1124
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five million dollars a year sounds like

1125
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: something he would look at and logic have to say, Okay,

1126
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll play for that.

1127
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: A four year hundred Yeah, I would love to see

1128
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: him get a three year whatever, fully guaranteed.

1129
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you could do that, Try to said, tell like,

1130
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: we all want them, we all want one of those.

1131
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys.

1132
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: It's like you want quarterbacks first, but you want top

1133
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: dogs at their positions, commanding these fully guaranteed contracts. You

1134
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: might sacrifice a little bit of the ceiling, but if

1135
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: in the if in turn, you get three years of

1136
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal and then you're seeing the market again

1137
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: at twenty eight years.

1138
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: Old, Like that's a good position to be in, right,

1139
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: great be in.

1140
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: And you know again it's not you know, he can

1141
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: look at Aaron Donald's and just think like that.

1142
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: It's a marker for the market. It doesn't mean he

1143
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: thinks that's his floor.

1144
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't mean anything other than like, hey, a

1145
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: top guy at this position got thirty one. He signed

1146
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: for it last year. We're getting all this influx of money.

1147
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: Who knows what that looks like capwise. That's when it

1148
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: comes on the agent.

1149
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 7: Say if he goes a free agency, he sees that money,

1150
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 7: he goes to free agency, he'll see a lot more

1151
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 7: than he would if he signs a year or two,

1152
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 7: or say he signed this offseason, Yeah, you would see

1153
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: a lot more than he would because you're.

1154
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: You're giving up the ability to go to free agency

1155
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: to sign something ahead of time. If you're gonna work

1156
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: with the Titans on signing something early, then you're gonna

1157
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: have to favor some things that go in the Titans way,

1158
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: because you that's ultimately what a hometown discount is.

1159
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy to think twenty five million dollars a hometown discount, right, Yeah,

1160
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: those are the cap situation I think got.

1161
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: Him at twenty five.

1162
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: It almost seemed like, oh, that's that could be seen

1163
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: as a win. Yeah, you get Jeff Simmons locked in

1164
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: long term a year before his deal's up. Now it's

1165
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: like that would be on Jeff to think you I think,

1166
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: do I believe I'd stay healthy my fifthy I'll write

1167
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: this fifthyr option out just because I know what I'm

1168
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: gonna see.

1169
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but louis over his head of those two franchise tags. Yeah,

1170
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: so you're looking at year seven in the league. Now

1171
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: he is twenty eight, he's twenty eight years old playing

1172
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: Now he's getting a second contract, still gonna make good money, right,

1173
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: Still a first round draft pick, Still been franchise tag twice.

1174
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't get franchise tag toys because I think

1175
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: it's like top five over the whole league, rights five

1176
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: your position. I thought the first franchise tag was at

1177
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: and then it levels up.

1178
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 4: No, I think tag, then transition tag, but then the

1179
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: two franchise, the next one first round picks a franchise

1180
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 4: you again, it just I think it goes up by

1181
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: a percentage, like it has to be more than that,

1182
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: you than the one whatever.

1183
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things in the in the Titans

1184
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: feature that they really got to figure out because, like

1185
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: I think, I think I've said this on this podcast,

1186
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: I think Vrabel is one of the best coaches in

1187
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, but eventually, like you've got to have talent

1188
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: to match that coaching as well. It unfortunately showed this

1189
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: year because you look at the two let at least

1190
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: last two years. Last year we had more injuries than

1191
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: we did this year, but last year had more. We

1192
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: had we had the record. Yeah, last year we had

1193
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: more injuries and we were still the number one seed

1194
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: in the AFC. But if you look at what's the

1195
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: major difference between last year and this year, If you

1196
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: look at the ir list, the guys that played last

1197
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: year are now the ones that I are like, your

1198
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: main guys other than Derrick Henry, who was got hurt

1199
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: Week six of the season and was a rushing leader

1200
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: by three hundred yards at that point. Yeah, would have

1201
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: in my mind easily broken that two thousand rushing records.

1202
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: He got what up to sixteen hundred?

1203
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 4: Right, Oh he didn't play week seventeen, which you're talking

1204
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: about Derek last year, oh last year, this year.

1205
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's around sixteen.

1206
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: What do you get?

1207
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: What do you get the other night?

1208
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: Get one hundred and twenty?

1209
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he probably might have just

1210
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: got sixteen hundred. He was top man going into that

1211
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: last game.

1212
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think he's number two, right, Josh

1213
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Jacobs than him.

1214
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb did. Chubb was two, Derek was three.

1215
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: He finished two. Man Erriican Chubb have some I have

1216
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: a weird whether they have a rivalry or not they

1217
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: have a rivalry. I think they have a little rivalry. Yeah,

1218
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Job is a beast to a beast. Bro around him,

1219
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: he assassin is he really like that he's talk He.

1220
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: Doesn't talk Like if you get a I mean, if

1221
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: you get him outside the complex hanging out, he's hilarious.

1222
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 4: Like once he stops starts talking, he's he'll be like

1223
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 4: the funniest guy in the room. But like in the

1224
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: complex and then on the field, you don't say a word.

1225
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: Business man.

1226
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: He scored.

1227
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: He like we were playing the Chargers this year, I'm

1228
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 4: blocked safety in the hole, makes a miss when it's

1229
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: like fifty yards for a touchdown, stiff arms Khalil Mack

1230
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: on the goal line, just hands the ball to the ref.

1231
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: And walks off the field like this guy's crazy. That's

1232
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: a cool that's a cool fucking deal.

1233
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: And me and Derek lost to Josh Jacobs though I

1234
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: let the league in rushing and he was somebody they

1235
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: didn't pick up his fifth.

1236
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Year eye no, So he went in a good tweet

1237
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: about that.

1238
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: He went in this year with a massive chip on

1239
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: his shoulder from what I've heard.

1240
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1241
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to Josh or anything, but from my

1242
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: understanding is they were trying to shop him for like

1243
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: a third round picking preseason, and he's aware.

1244
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: He was aware of that.

1245
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 2: So him going out and leading the league in rushing

1246
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 2: like the big middle finger to everybody, like, I'll fucking

1247
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: show you guys, like that's you love to see that,

1248
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 2: you hope it's like, don't take any fucking discount. It's

1249
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: like the mindset of Jeff, Like if Jeff's going into

1250
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: it like you know, then I'll put I've sacrifice all

1251
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: this you want to see players get paid and not

1252
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: have all this stuff that they've used like against you

1253
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: and everything else.

1254
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: It's always like the pro pro player mentality.

1255
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: It's like if he they didn't pick up his fifty

1256
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: or they did pick up his fifty option and he

1257
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: was pissed about it.

1258
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: It's almost like, how do you navigate those waters? Like Josh?

1259
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: He now gets to go taste uh running back.

1260
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: It's probably known in the NFL feeling better than Josh.

1261
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: Right now, you've got to feel good.

1262
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: About how the the year you just had, especially again

1263
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: led the league in rushing on a roster where it

1264
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: seemed like every position was talked about except the running back.

1265
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, we got.

1266
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: To get running back, but we got the dog Derek

1267
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Carr with DeVante Adams, Darren Waller on a renfo all

1268
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: those boys, and then you kind of, you know, Josh

1269
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: was kind of an Actressut they don't pick up his option,

1270
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, bird to everybody, I'm about to

1271
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: lead the league in rushing.

1272
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1273
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Raiders are by far the most underachieving

1274
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: team in the NFL this year, Oh for sure. I

1275
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: mean Titans are kind of there too, right, so they

1276
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries to hang their hat on

1277
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: its insurance.

1278
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Not everyone, Like a lot of people were saying talking

1279
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: about the Raiders competing for the Super Bowl. When get there,

1280
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: I said, my hot take was the Chiefs weren't gonna

1281
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

1282
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: I was obviously very wrong about that, but it was

1283
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: a tough.

1284
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: But again there's there's bias, like I'm rocking with the

1285
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: boys in silver and black, dude, and I thought this

1286
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: was gonna be the year.

1287
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: And it'll be the coolest uniforms in the league. You don't,

1288
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: you know.

1289
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: I still went what like five and three, I feel

1290
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: like on the year picking the division winners.

1291
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: I think like to see a better ratio.

1292
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: However, I had one more if Saturday worked out a

1293
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: little bit better.

1294
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: I know, Titans were one. Titans were one I picked.

1295
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: And there was a part of me too that was

1296
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: thinking about picking Jaguars at the beginning of the year,

1297
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't do that.

1298
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have missed me off, right, Yeah, because

1299
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: who were talking about how it pissed off Peterson justin Lawrence.

1300
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: We said on this podcast, though, for those of you

1301
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: think we just joke around on this podcast, we legit

1302
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: have said Jacksonville is a good football team, they just

1303
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: need a good coach. You're welcome. We said that first.

1304
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 4: When they've had they had like three straight number one picks,

1305
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: Like I.

1306
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Know, they really have just like holstered and their shit.

1307
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Doug Peterson probably was a big

1308
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: help like him going there for sure.

1309
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1310
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: Organization dude, Yeah, with the boys pushing the cart in

1311
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: the same direction.

1312
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: What since we're talking about mindsets too.

1313
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: In the season abruptly ins like where where does where

1314
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: does the headspace go for somebody like you in your position? Again,

1315
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: you come in the last three weeks of the year,

1316
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: season's over. You see the look on everybody's face like

1317
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: you're not as acclimated. And it's into all the buying

1318
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: that the Titans did all year long for the beack.

1319
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Fuck man, we didn't get it. What's it like for

1320
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 2: you now going into the off season.

1321
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when it brough abruptly ends, I mean

1322
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: it's just stuck. But you just like you navigate those

1323
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 4: emotions obviously I can media you are, Okay, Shoot, where

1324
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: am I going to be next year? I'm not going

1325
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 4: to be back here. I'm gonna be somewhere else. I'm

1326
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 4: about to live for the offseason. Is my apartment even

1327
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: still a thing in Cleveland?

1328
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: You know?

1329
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 4: So just like working through it all. So yeah, I

1330
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 4: want to be back in Tennessee. Had good exit meetings,

1331
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: so we'll see how kind of like free agency for

1332
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: me shakes out.

1333
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: But hopefully it's back here.

1334
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 3: So you if you you're wishless, would be Tennessee.

1335
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Tennessee boy for sure.

1336
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean I'm front not from Tennessee, but played at Tennessee.

1337
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 4: Love Nashville, Nashville Rips, National's dope.

1338
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: In the state is like seems like they're root for

1339
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: you hard.

1340
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: For sure, and like I've enjoyed my time in the complex,

1341
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: Like the guys are cool, even though I gotta cross

1342
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: paths with him a couple of times, but everyone's everyone's

1343
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: pretty cool in the complex.

1344
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: So it's been cool. The I wonder from the outside

1345
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: looking at like if I was. Since I've been on

1346
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: IR since week too, I've like turned myself into a

1347
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: fan obviously, and watching Malik the first few weeks obviously

1348
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: it was it was tough, right, like it's I think

1349
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: he had eighty eight yards passing in the last game

1350
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: before you started, and when you came in, it was

1351
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: like damn, like he really out there slinging that thing,

1352
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: and then everything like gets in your head like damn, like, dude,

1353
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: been for five days, he's done that, Like he's been

1354
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: able to do this at this time, like you actually

1355
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: and a time where there was no hope for Tennessee.

1356
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: You look, he gave the boys hope and I thought

1357
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Saturday you were going to go in there and it

1358
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: was going to work out. He has had it. We'll

1359
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: get into that game because I really, I really do

1360
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. But what is a what

1361
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: what was it like with Malik? Because knowing Malie for

1362
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: the short time I did obviously during Camp OTA's and

1363
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Uh, get very charismatic, very energetic. Great dude.

1364
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: You just wonder if, like, is he a guy that

1365
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: can develop into something that people thought he was going

1366
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: to be when they're coming of Liberty before the draft

1367
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: saying he could be a top ten pick, or is

1368
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: this one of those things where it just is not

1369
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: It's not going to work out and that's no shot

1370
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: at Malik. That's more just like wondering, I guess like

1371
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: does he have it? And that's not for you to answer.

1372
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: My My question for you is like, how was the

1373
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: process between you two and like you quick coming in

1374
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: quickly changing in the.

1375
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Guard, you know, it was good. I mean it was

1376
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: smooth as smooth as it can be. Yeah, you know,

1377
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: I know obviously, you know, being his position is probably

1378
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: was tough on him, and I know he would love

1379
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: to be out there too, playing competing.

1380
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: But as you said, Malik is a great dude.

1381
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: And so Malik and I we trained with the same

1382
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: guy in Atlanta, so I met him this last offseason.

1383
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: Actually I was getting ready for the draft and stuff

1384
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 4: just in QB training and it's a small circle. So yeah,

1385
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean he was still the same guy throughout the

1386
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: whole process, extremely positive with the players, being a great teammate.

1387
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 4: It was great to me and helping me just get acclimated.

1388
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: And then like little things that quarterback, Hey, what's the cadence?

1389
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: Was the reminder to the O line, what's the communication

1390
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: the huddle? Just how have you guys done it? Just

1391
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: to make sure we're smooth on everyone. He was awesome. So,

1392
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 4: I mean, playing quarterback in the NFL is not the

1393
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 4: easiest profession and it takes time to learn how to

1394
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: do it.

1395
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Took me time.

1396
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of reps, even though i haven't

1397
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: played a lot, so I've had a lot of reps

1398
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: at doing it and watching guys do it at a

1399
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: high level. And so Malik will probably be the same process.

1400
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: But he seems like he works really hard, he wants,

1401
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 4: he wants to be successful. I think it starts there,

1402
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm excited to see how he comes back

1403
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: this offseason.

1404
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Being a VET, if you were to give advice to

1405
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 2: a young rookie quarterback, obviously I'm saying Molik in the situation,

1406
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 2: if you're you were to give advice to a rookie

1407
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: quarterback going into their first offseason, what would it be.

1408
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm looking at your career now.

1409
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say one, just like take a breath,

1410
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: as we know that first off season. You've been going

1411
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: for a year and a half straight from the start

1412
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: of your senior year, So take a time just to

1413
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: take a breath and realize like how important football is

1414
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 4: to you, but also what other interests you have out

1415
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: there just as a human being, and just take a

1416
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: step back, and then from there, like February comes around.

1417
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 4: Then craft your plan of hey, what are the five

1418
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: things I want to get better at between now and OTAs,

1419
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: and work hard every day at those those things, whether

1420
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 4: it's something in the in the playbook, whether it's footwork

1421
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: on the field, whether it's one throw you're trying to master.

1422
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: But just find that rhythm, routine, consistency, because then if

1423
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: you find that, then once you go to OTAs, you

1424
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: can take that same process and then use it all

1425
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: the way until the season. So that's I mean, that's

1426
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: my biggest vice. That's what I did for myself. It

1427
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: took a step back, took a took a breath, figured

1428
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 4: out what I want to improve on, and then just

1429
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 4: went from there.

1430
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Question for both of you guys, is there anything you

1431
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: guys look back on you issued a new at a

1432
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: younger age, like when you are navigating the first off seasons,

1433
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Because I feel like a lot of guys get excited, right,

1434
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: they can travel, they can do a little bit more.

1435
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing you say like good stuff, and I'm thinking,

1436
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: like I'm on that because it's like we can all

1437
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: sit here and talk about I know you both have

1438
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 2: knowledge on it, but how.

1439
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 3: Crucial routine process.

1440
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: All that stuff is if you're trying to be a

1441
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: better NFL football player at your position.

1442
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1443
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 4: I think like the people always say, like, don't take breaks,

1444
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 4: I feel like the break is really what helps you

1445
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: come back more uh more energized to work hard. You know,

1446
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 4: Like taking it sucks when you're done the first week

1447
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: of January. So taking the month just to decompress from

1448
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 4: the emotions of the season, whether you're in one spot

1449
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: the whole year starting or you weren't, or you were

1450
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 4: in three different spots like myself, just taking that time

1451
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: to decompress is so powerful, just mentally. And then when

1452
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: February comes, you watch the Super Bowl, You're like, that's

1453
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: my goal. I want to be there. And then the

1454
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 4: next week you just work hard, yeah, you know, and

1455
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: just get right back at it.

1456
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say? I think the break is

1457
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: a huge thing. My first couple of years, I like

1458
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't take a break. I was like, when people are resting,

1459
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: this is when I'm gonna I'm gonna get them. And

1460
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: then you kind of realize that. You get into like

1461
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: late November December and you're like, damn, kind of burnt down.

1462
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: You don't really know why you don't like put that

1463
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: into in your head of like, oh, you have been

1464
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: working since forever, like since your senior year, and now

1465
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: you're in your second year. And so the when I

1466
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: saw the biggest jump from my success was we year

1467
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: two to year three, and that's when I actually took

1468
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: the longest break I did, which was like I think

1469
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: we didn't make the playoffs obviously, and then I took

1470
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: like three or four weeks like first of February, when

1471
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is when we start,

1472
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: and it's like it's very rejuvenating. You get to like

1473
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: get back to neutral a little bit because you're drained, dude.

1474
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: The end of the season is so draining. Everything hurts always,

1475
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: and you're just like thinking, like, damn, I'm having to

1476
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: make it to this next game, right, you know, like

1477
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: little things because when you're out of it, like I've

1478
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: been out of it for so like for so long,

1479
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: relatively since week two. I don't have any pain in

1480
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: my body, like my neck doesn't hurt, but I remember

1481
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: being like, damn I ever felt every time my head

1482
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: touches something, I get a stinger like or like my

1483
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: ankle or whatever, and you're like, damn, this is just awful,

1484
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: and so you kind of forget what it feels like,

1485
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: and that's you're like just ready to get back into it.

1486
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: But if you don't take that break, then you're screwed.

1487
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: You kind of you put yourself in a in a deficit,

1488
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: like the return on investment no longer is there for

1489
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: you anymore after if you just keep going the whole time,

1490
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: you just get burnt out, right. And also, I partied

1491
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: a whole bunch out for my rookie years, so or

1492
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: you're partying the shitloading I was out in Arizona.

1493
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: I feel like that stuff happens.

1494
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: That's almost why, Like, you know why, I wanted to

1495
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: like raise the question in case they're having to beat

1496
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: There are a lot of Tier one rookies out there.

1497
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: I listened to this podcast.

1498
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if you're a rookie, and you were

1499
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: you were a drafted rookie, like a top three round

1500
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: draft pick, like there is you finished the season and

1501
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I can't believe this season is over.

1502
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: But then in that same thought process, you're like, holy fuck,

1503
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: I got all this money all this time. You know

1504
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying you never had money, like like we

1505
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: all the time, or you.

1506
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: Didn't just have the season, but you like, like you

1507
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: were talking, you're training for the combine, you're going to Yeah,

1508
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: you're doing all the bells and every you're you're pretty

1509
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: much shot, you're anything. Yeah, then you get done and yes,

1510
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: dam I got a bank, a big account.

1511
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: Money in the world, in the world. What you want,

1512
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: you want, bro, the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened

1513
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: to me, or like that. I look back and I

1514
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: just go ooh, fuck, dude, that was tough. My rookie year.

1515
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: After my rookie year, the Super Bowls in Arizona, and

1516
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm from Arizona, for those of you listening who don't know,

1517
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: I go back. I go to old town Scottsdale and

1518
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: it's a great spot. I'm a Cave Creek guy, like

1519
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm more of like a small town kid. But I'm like,

1520
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm fucking showing that ship off. I get the table.

1521
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: I go to l A couple of girls from high

1522
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: school show up. Why because they got to see they

1523
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: got to see that your boys made it a little day, bro.

1524
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: This girl I had like a bunch of money in

1525
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: my U in my pocket like a bunch of twenties.

1526
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 3: This girl, it's like in the air.

1527
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really him, look at this money flying

1528
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: through the air. Thinking to myself, liked like not realizing

1529
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: that you'll be a fucking idiot right now, dude, go

1530
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: on a bender for four days straight. It was embarrassing.

1531
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: It was fucking tough. Dude. You get out of that

1532
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: little four day piece and you're like, I haven't really slept.

1533
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: I've been acting like a fucking idiot. I've been doing

1534
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot of extracurriculars. It was a fucking tough gig

1535
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: for me, and it was really like a come to

1536
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Jesus moment, Like mister A came and picked me up.

1537
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: It's a random apartment complex, wearing the same outfit I

1538
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: was wearing four days before, but the buttons on the

1539
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: shirt were like wrong. Yeah, he has a picture of me.

1540
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: He literally says, it's the most disappointed I've ever been

1541
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: in You was that I slept for like eighteen hours.

1542
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: Literally went to a small coma like just to say

1543
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: it was just bad. I haven't parted like that since. Yeah, way,

1544
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: I needed that. I needed that. That's hilarious. I don't

1545
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: do that.

1546
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so don't learn from me. Don't do that.

1547
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: Ship dude, it's cooler to pretend like you don't have money.

1548
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: It's good that you said all those things too, because

1549
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: I feel like every all every.

1550
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed.

1551
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: In a little bit, I was being an idiot, damn idiot. Yeah,

1552
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: there's more, but I don't know if I want to

1553
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: go into it, but not to go another time.

1554
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: What should we transition into next?

1555
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Jaguars Titans game. We watched the

1556
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: game together. Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted,

1557
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: but there are two plays that stick out in my

1558
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: head that we can go over. One is what the

1559
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: fuck was Trailing Burke's doing when he tossed that ball

1560
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: over his head? What was that a cold play? Okay?

1561
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: Thank god, because I literally thought, like, there's no way

1562
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: it's done that, Like, that's not in the playbook.

1563
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 4: What the fuck is that put that? We put that

1564
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: in on Friday? What ever Friday is for Thursday? Well,

1565
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: we were expected its like third and fifteen. They usually

1566
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: play like a little off zone coverage. Yeah, we thought

1567
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 4: we're gonna throw it the trailing on a slant and

1568
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: then they're going to rally to just tackle and then

1569
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: he's gonna throw it to the back, and we ran

1570
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 4: in and practiced against the defense and it worked perfectly.

1571
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: Really it was.

1572
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 4: It was like third and seventeen. Threw at the trailing,

1573
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 4: he threw it to the back and he got like

1574
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: thirty yards right, all right, A bet might as well

1575
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: try it?

1576
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, launch that ship up in the air, dude. I

1577
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: was almost too and almost when he called it, though,

1578
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: I was surprised.

1579
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna be like later in the game,

1580
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: I have it, like all right, we need something.

1581
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: But that was like the second.

1582
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: First quarter, like the quarter, third third down of the game,

1583
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: oking Michigan.

1584
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: Running the Philly Special against TCU in the first quarter

1585
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: on the first drive. What are y'all doing? Yeah?

1586
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: Like late, like late the game?

1587
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead. It was a late game call, yeah,

1588
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: for sure, like going off that like when you get

1589
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: a call in your headset and you know the call

1590
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: before you tell the boys, You're like, hey, what the

1591
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: fuck if I'm the quarterback and they're like, yeah, do

1592
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: the fun I don't want to play. What's the play called? Uh?

1593
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: It's called uh like tracks like a razorback for Trailing

1594
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: razorback and you're in your head like, holy fuck, what

1595
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: what was the D and D?

1596
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: So I was starting fifteen and we're in field goal range.

1597
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: I'm literally just stereo Trailer, be smart, like, don't don't

1598
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: do anything stupid.

1599
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't throw it.

1600
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 4: Don't throw it like way back, they get the ball,

1601
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: like because we got points and we're about to start

1602
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 4: off this game on the road with points we need.

1603
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 4: We need these points, so they don't say, don't do

1604
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: anything dumb. And the crazy thing was it worked. It

1605
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: just wasn't backwards like it was literally like to really.

1606
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Taught really like, oh, I can't believe, like all he's

1607
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: falling down, dude, I remember watch throw it through it.

1608
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how he got that off really either.

1609
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: No, just looking into Trailing's eyes before the crystal green eyes.

1610
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: Situation, don't do something stupid like green eyes.

1611
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you got it or bet or something

1612
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: he said, and he caught that guy as he's going on,

1613
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: you guys, this is the perfect time. Throw this fucking

1614
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: ball in the air. Dude, a movie you.

1615
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: Know, a movie scene was going on. I'm about to

1616
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: be the.

1617
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: Hero, yes for a first down in the first quarter. First,

1618
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: I know, questionable call, questionable, questionable situation for you. Let

1619
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: you say hypothetically, it's fourth and thirteen. Defense is in

1620
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: a loose cover three at the sticks. I'm gonna give

1621
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: you an empty set. I'm gonna go three routes curled

1622
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: up at the sticks. They can get the first down.

1623
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: We put the ball in the money, and I'm going

1624
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: to give you two checkdowns. Where you going with the football,

1625
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: probably should throw it past the stick? Yeah, So I

1626
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: was so hot. I was hot on my bro.

1627
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: Everybody gets an.

1628
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: Extra playoff check. Trainers are getting an extra ball. You

1629
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: got everything on the line. You going to the sticks,

1630
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: you're going check.

1631
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: Down, probably sticks hindsight, I'll put it. I'll put it.

1632
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: I'll put it on me. It's straight when you when

1633
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: you get that ball, I was like, oh cool, they're

1634
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: doing another one of those lace through a bell and

1635
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: running barely down like thing. I was so hot. So

1636
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: did you know it was third down?

1637
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 3: Fourth down?

1638
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: You sure? Yeah? I promise, I promise. I'm not trying

1639
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: to be dispebbled. I guess that's hard that has happened.

1640
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: So I knew it was fourth down. I knew what

1641
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: covers they're in. It's literally like it's called three week by.

1642
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 4: So I mean they're standing at the sticks and they're

1643
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: standing like right where the guys are running. I told like, hey,

1644
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 4: find try to find a window and everything. I was like,

1645
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stare at the guy over the ball. I'm

1646
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 4: gonna try to pull as many people to him as

1647
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 4: I can and try to rip it the trailing into

1648
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: the boundary.

1649
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: So I caught it.

1650
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 4: Nick Lestburgh runs with chains route and there's like four

1651
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 4: guys standing there. And then I looked right and there's

1652
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: like two guys standing right next to trailing like trailing.

1653
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 3: One dude was right in front of him in the corner.

1654
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 4: Like touching shoulders, and then Woody like the safety standing

1655
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 4: in front of him. So I'm like, the worst there

1656
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 4: I can do right now is take a sat And

1657
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: then like it was literally as I was saying that

1658
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 4: and I was about to start scrambling, it was just

1659
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 4: out of reaction and like hassan just flashing in front

1660
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: of my face. I threw it right through it. I

1661
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: was like, come back, yeah, so no, I won't suck.

1662
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 2: Like when you just replay in your head, you're like, motherfucker,

1663
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: why did I throw that?

1664
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 3: So you for sure you're you're thinking like every rep

1665
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 3: in your head.

1666
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're like every repucking matters, like the resume

1667
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: of starting right here, yeah, you know.

1668
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 4: And just like the situational places like that's one thing

1669
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: from the first game. I was like, all right, let's

1670
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 4: be better, Let's be a better situation, which like outside

1671
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: of that situation the whole game, I mean, we were

1672
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: moving the ball and verting third and long's like two

1673
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 4: big fourth downs, so we were much better situationally throughout

1674
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: the game. But yeah, in that play, was like, you know,

1675
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 4: just just give someone a chance. And I was thinking,

1676
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 4: like a couple of thirds, like yo, this is a

1677
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 4: huge third down, like to stay on the field at

1678
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: that play, like the play before it, I was like,

1679
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: all right, let's make it as the manageable of a

1680
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: fourth down as I can. That's why I threw the

1681
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: checkoutto a son to play before it. But yeah, you

1682
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: flashing from my face on.

1683
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: And it was a false start before right hoop fall

1684
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: started all started. They flinched you fall started.

1685
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 4: I mean they're they're i mean, their front so talented,

1686
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: not really, so we're trying to do everything we can

1687
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 4: to slow him down.

1688
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 3: It might have gotten better.

1689
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: I think they got better. I'll tell you what. I

1690
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: don't know if Josh Allen's gotten better, but he's gotten

1691
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: a lot cooler. Looking on the field, he does look

1692
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: dark visor everything with the sea on the chest he looks.

1693
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: He does look cool. He's got that perfect like build, like, oh,

1694
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: that dude is a dog.

1695
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you look you look over there like

1696
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: even like like Travan Walker, like he can probably like

1697
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 4: get some cooler sock swag, but like you'll get it.

1698
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: He's a rookie, Like, yeah, everyone has to. On the

1699
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: rookie you're like whatever that mat what you make, Yeah,

1700
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: but whatever your way.

1701
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 2: If you're trying to look cool, you're gonna get clowned

1702
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: on for that. If you're not doing enough, you're gonna

1703
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: get clowned.

1704
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: On for that.

1705
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: Man, they look the part you get out there, like

1706
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 4: the first thing you do, Like especially at quarterback, you

1707
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 4: kind of size up everyone on the field and you

1708
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 4: look at their line.

1709
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: They got some guys over there. Now, hey, guys, I

1710
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: need you to hold up a little bit, but not

1711
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: more than Dallas. Your first start, Dallas was the same way.

1712
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: Dallas was crazy because you looked at the d line,

1713
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: you're like Marcus Lawrence, like heard a lot about him,

1714
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: and you look at there, like, there's Michael Parsons, He's

1715
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 4: really good. And then you look at their cornerbacks and

1716
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 4: they're like taller than me, right, and their arms are

1717
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 4: down to their knees, Like when I can throw a

1718
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 4: go ball on that guy, he's as tall as the receiver.

1719
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: So you like size up everyone. They have a large,

1720
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,480
Speaker 1: very large defense.

1721
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 3: Very large defense. On my left, it's all pause.

1722
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a no pause podcast.

1723
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: If you're sitting there, when you're when, I'm sure you

1724
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: looked at the play a million times.

1725
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: What are you wishing you just did slightly different?

1726
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: Just scrambled, you know, let someone work for you. Were

1727
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: you under the rest? Do you have that play? I

1728
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: can't remember if you there was pressure or not.

1729
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 4: I think the play before I had pressure pressure, like

1730
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 4: a couple for a couple of plays. So or just scrambled,

1731
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 4: get someone a chance, work a scrambled drill.

1732
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, yeah, damn.

1733
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: I know, bro, we were dialed in, we were watching

1734
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: Fired Up.

1735
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: We were fired Up.

1736
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: I really thought that reminds me.

1737
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: Go ahead, finish your thought about the turnover.

1738
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, what's your thoughts on that

1739
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: replay the turnover? Yeah, because what was it? That was

1740
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: a six minute protection with a load to the right side.

1741
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 4: To the right, and there they brought the pressure earlier.

1742
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 4: They're like, if you see two to the back, you

1743
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: can flipper it. But also the look like all week

1744
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 4: were like, slide to the load. Yeah, slide to the load.

1745
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 4: I mean it's Josh Allen and then it's two and third.

1746
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 4: Do you do you lineman? And then we'll pick up

1747
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 4: the game on the back side. Slide to the load.

1748
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 4: So I look at it. I'm like, I'm gonna slide

1749
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 4: to the load. And then you're bringing a safety off

1750
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 4: the edge, which I felt him. I felt him rushing,

1751
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: I felt him coming. I felt I felt him rushing

1752
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 4: from behind you.

1753
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 2: Was this you felt him behind he was coming behind you,

1754
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 2: coming from behind behind you.

1755
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm coming up that back. I felt him rushing.

1756
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna drift to the right and Freilan had

1757
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 4: like eight to ten yard route and so I was

1758
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 4: just trying to give him time to work off the defender,

1759
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 4: and literally a millisecond later, he catches the ball on

1760
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 4: the sideline. For a first down, because I mean, he

1761
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 4: was wide open the sideline.

1762
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: So that's football. So when you so you saw the overload,

1763
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: you're all right, they're gonna pick that up. But you

1764
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: knew the safety was coming, and didn't know the safety

1765
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: was coming.

1766
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 4: You know, the city was coming, didn't know the safety

1767
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 4: was I didn't know the situation, but it was there

1768
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: was a linebacker, linebacker mug and the safety. Linebacker dropped.

1769
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1770
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: With my head, linebacker drops, I'm like the back, I'm

1771
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: thinking the back will pick up the safety. The backs

1772
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 4: head he's thinking I got to help out with the

1773
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: internal game. And then the left guards thinking I got

1774
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 4: to push to the load for their games to the load.

1775
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 4: So everyone was more sliding right, and then it was

1776
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 4: kind of he became a free rusher just based off.

1777
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: Their scheme on damn. Yeah, damn. I thought it was

1778
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: a four pass. Yeah, we didn't see it.

1779
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 4: We didn't see it on the field because obviously when

1780
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 4: you're away, they never play any replays, especially of the

1781
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 4: biggest play of the game.

1782
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: At the Titans in the citium, they do replace. They

1783
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: will there will be calls that go our way, and

1784
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: then those show in the basement in the back. Oh,

1785
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: we should probably probably throw the challenge. Yeah, that's what

1786
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1787
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: That's what they're supposed to do, right, They're trying to

1788
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: show the replays that are in your favor. But Jacksonville

1789
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: could have thought that's a ward pass exactly. Jacksonville could

1790
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: have thought, Oh, this doesn't look like it's in our favor,

1791
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: don't show the replay.

1792
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: Number two also looks very cool. He does. Look, can

1793
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: you go back to the uh? Lay? Yeah, I want

1794
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,839
Speaker 1: to see this that that same play like this view.

1795
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 4: The next one is the next uh yeah, I think

1796
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 4: it's the next one.

1797
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about the checkdown or you know, I'm talking

1798
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: about that play where he gets uh. I want to

1799
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: see that the whole entire thing. Man a right, and

1800
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: they took it to the all right, all right, something

1801
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: slide to the low. Yeah, okay, but there's a mug there.

1802
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: There's no one coming. If you're signing the load, I'm

1803
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: not going to say what the call is, but they're signing.

1804
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: These two are man and have skins is his gap

1805
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: is right here in this a gap because unless somebody

1806
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: else is coming, because his either a gap, he should

1807
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: be picking up that guy. If no one was coming.

1808
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 4: If they're rushing, they're rushing five. Yeah, they only brought

1809
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 4: five because okay, hey sorry, go back. Forty one ended

1810
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 4: up dropping to the field.

1811
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: Is this a bigger a little? That's a little. That's

1812
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: the linebacker. Okay, so that is that is a son's

1813
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: damn you trailing? Yeah, tis a crib damn And it

1814
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: was Josh, that's a four pas. I feel like they

1815
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't look at it very long neither.

1816
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they did either. But to me, it's

1817
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: like if you could have just had that grip.

1818
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: For just a millisecond, Yeah, millisecond.

1819
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: Thing, it's almost like it even though your arm's going

1820
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: forward a little bit with it, you can see your.

1821
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 4: You can see yeah, which I get that part of it.

1822
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 4: But with the like I get like he's hitting me

1823
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 4: for it, but the ball go your hands right, Like,

1824
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 4: here's my thing. If you you know what you go

1825
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: back there in QB is like sometimes they throwing the

1826
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: ball just slips out and goes backwards. But if it

1827
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: slipped down and goes forward, that's before it passed. That's

1828
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 4: the same exact situation.

1829
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

1830
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 1: Exact situation. Come buying that stock that's I think Jacksonville

1831
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: have won. You think then we punt, our defense stops

1832
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: and then we take a knee. We go home.

1833
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: The Titans got cheated out of a division title.

1834
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back, Uh, go back to that play. The

1835
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: play we were talking about the sact. What I want

1836
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: to see the down in distance third and third and

1837
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: five thirty five? How much time is left? Uh?

1838
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: Three minutes, three minutes we get the first down, three

1839
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 4: minutes in the game, three manus left in the game.

1840
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: That was right afterwards.

1841
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: What you got you got on your mind?

1842
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: Nothing, just as armchair quarter I'm armchair quarterbacking in my

1843
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: head right now. Third and five defense has been has

1844
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: been playing well. Yeah, I think why not take a

1845
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: very like not You could you could absolutely run it.

1846
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: You could absolute run the station five on third and

1847
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: five with two minus fifty one seconds of the game.

1848
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: You can run it. You could run it a very quick,

1849
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: high percentage throw and hope he gets the sticks because

1850
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: your defense. Look at the score. The defense has been

1851
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: playing great all game, and we have the best punter

1852
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: in the league. Who's gonna hit that ball fifty sixty

1853
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: fucking yards? You do that? You're just talking about a

1854
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: completely different game. Right now, three timeouts on both sides,

1855
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: there's a.

1856
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 4: They'll probably burn one if you run, you run it,

1857
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 4: they'll probably burn it to save it before the two minute.

1858
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point too.

1859
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: But third and five, you're still trying to get the

1860
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: first down.

1861
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: You're still trying to get the first down. But you

1862
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: gotta go with like a super high percentage throw. Then

1863
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: that might that might have been a high percent throw.

1864
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: They just they just their scheme beat our scheme in

1865
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: this situation with how they were setting the things.

1866
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it comes down to literally a millisecond. And

1867
01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 4: it's totally different too.

1868
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: If you sit there and let's say we're not sliding

1869
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: to the load, and you think, all right, we got

1870
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: we have five guys up. Basically, why don't we just

1871
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: mic this guy over the left guard. Now you have

1872
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: five on five. Now heskin picks up that that safety

1873
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: off the edge. Yes, you didn't get him. That's a

1874
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: four pass. That's a four pass.

1875
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 4: Play live, play live, And I get like the rule

1876
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 4: where they say, all right, let's let it, let's let it, let's.

1877
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: Let it go.

1878
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: This what I was like, all right, they'll let it go.

1879
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 4: And then they'll be like, it's a four pass if you.

1880
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: Just saw that. No, man, you think that's a fore past.

1881
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: Because again he's not hitting the ball forward.

1882
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 8: No, he's saying my arm, which is like an eight

1883
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 8: nine yard throws.

1884
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: The exact same play. Yeah, because you try, you try

1885
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: to think of another argument for yours if you're being

1886
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: biased and if they're if y'all are playing the Patriots.

1887
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: When Tom was there, it's like, oh, obviously they're having

1888
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: bias ards the Patriots. They want them to go to

1889
01:15:53,680 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs? Did it same play? We should pull up

1890
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: that play?

1891
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 3: You're talking about the tuck rule?

1892
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: No way? Hey, oh, yesterday, I want to uh the

1893
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: way you frame that question him about the checkdown. It

1894
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: was a really good job. Yeah, that was what did

1895
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: it good? Did you think about that before?

1896
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of something I was messing with.

1897
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: I was telling Caleb ho I wanted to ask a

1898
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: question about the fourth and twelve play, like, Hey, I'm

1899
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: gonna give this situation where we're getting a few out,

1900
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a check down fourth and twelve game

1901
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: in the line where you going with the ball? Yeah,

1902
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 2: and then he sorry, he started laughing, and Caleb was

1903
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 2: doing with Caleb Dust. Yeah, it's like painting it even

1904
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: more and talks about there's a forty thousand dollars check

1905
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 2: for everybody on the on the roster waiting to go

1906
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: to the playoffs.

1907
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: You get that extra Yeah, that's a face, that's a deal. Yeah.

1908
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're thinking, how fuck I wanted that check?

1909
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: You goddamn Yeah exactly. I mean anywhere you sliced the dude.

1910
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: You played well in those two games. You played well

1911
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: enough for the Tennessee Titans to win the Dallas I

1912
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: don't know, like it just didn't go our away that one.

1913
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: They they played well too, They played well, they had

1914
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: more talent on the field. Like that is what it is,

1915
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: except washing it beat the game. You gave Tennessee an

1916
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: opportunity to win, and that's all at the end of days, quarterback,

1917
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: that's what you did. You did a great job and

1918
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: your second start in the NFL. Yeah, that's incredible. You

1919
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: have everything to be proud of. Appreciate that. Like you

1920
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: can nitpick yourself on the fourth and thirteen all day,

1921
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: but really you are There's three things that can happen

1922
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: when you are a backup thrust into a starting role

1923
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: in the league. You can play so well that this

1924
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: dude needs to be a start in the NFL. You

1925
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: can kind of stay where you're at, or you can

1926
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: play yourself out of the NFL and you are in

1927
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: those top two.

1928
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: And on on drop of the hat, Like again, you

1929
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: did that within a week ten days.

1930
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: Notice, let's say let's say I mean, I'm assuming Tannehill's

1931
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: gonna be on the on the roster next year. He's there,

1932
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: You're the number two. People know. Tannehill goes down like, oh,

1933
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: we got Josh Dopps. We're gonna be all right, we

1934
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: can go play, but we can go we have an

1935
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to win a game exactly the season under you.

1936
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: But you've leveled yourself up just off of twenty days.

1937
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: For sure. How cool is that? It's more than that.

1938
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 4: I mean, like and that was serr sports, Like, well,

1939
01:17:58,520 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: why wouldn't you just like just go back to the

1940
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 4: clar even like send back to their practice squad. It's

1941
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: like you have to give your you have to you're

1942
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: not if you're not especially at quarterback, if you're not

1943
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 4: drafted in the first round, or a team doesn't say, hey,

1944
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 4: we want you to be our guy and we're gonna

1945
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 4: put you on this field until you are successful. To

1946
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 4: be the guy you have to look around and say, hey,

1947
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,879
Speaker 4: I have to make an opportunity for myself.

1948
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: That's what you gotta do, and that's what you did. Yeah,

1949
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: is that how you feel about it too? Like, yeah,

1950
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: for sure, the game gets done, Like you're obviously upset.

1951
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: You're like, fuck, man, I would have loved to have

1952
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: gotten in the playoffs. But now you can kind of

1953
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: sit back and look at these last two weeks like

1954
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: you took advantage of your opportunity.

1955
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: Definitely see him and any doubt that might have crept

1956
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: into your mind over the last six years of being like,

1957
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: am I a start in this? Like because everybody has

1958
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: self doubt? Of course everybody has that you have silenced

1959
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: in your own head.

1960
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 4: That's those critics what you really like, and you affirm

1961
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 4: to yourself that your process works for you, you know what

1962
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: I mean. That's the biggest thing is when you do

1963
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: the process and then there's no result at the end

1964
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 4: of it, Like there's nothing, there's nothing to show for it.

1965
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 4: You're just sitting there like, Okay, yeah, I have some

1966
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: good preseason tape, But a lot of guys have got

1967
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: preseason tape, going out and actually playing like in big games,

1968
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 4: like and playing well in those moments. It's completely different

1969
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,719
Speaker 4: than saying, yeah, you played really well in August against basic,

1970
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 4: Cover four and Cover three defenses for three weeks.

1971
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1972
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I know it. It definitely does feel

1973
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: good to make the most of the situation. Wish I

1974
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 4: could have made more of the situation, you know, like

1975
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 4: not throw the checkdown.

1976
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I'm working with you on that. I mean, I'm not.

1977
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: But also, did you really tell Trailing to be smart

1978
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: with the ball on that play? For sure? All right?

1979
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: For sure?

1980
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: It's like sure and again with him there you know

1981
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: that you can do it. It's like six years is

1982
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: a long time not doubt yourself. But again, leaning back

1983
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: on conversations with Colt McCoy, he's like, man, because injuries

1984
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: would kind of hurt him to like be a full

1985
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: time starter, because he would he would get hurt.

1986
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 3: He's got to an injury history.

1987
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I just want to know that everything

1988
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing every day because he was very like regimented process,

1989
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: like first in last all that shit, bro every fucking day.

1990
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yo, you know why you still blah

1991
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: blah blah.

1992
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: And it's like, man, when I do get the opportunity,

1993
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 2: I just want to know that I can do and

1994
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: everything I'm doing is correct, Like I just want to

1995
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 2: prove myself that, like I can be a starter. I

1996
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,959
Speaker 2: can't go out there and win a big game exactly.

1997
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that's sick, man. It does suck that.

1998
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: It's like the boys don't get to go into the playoffs.

1999
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also I didn't get a check either. I

2000
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: would have got a check on I R you would

2001
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: have got a check. Yeah, I would have got check.

2002
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 3: Remember Kyle Phillips, Yeah, I wanted to pay for his wedding.

2003
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he think this check will pay for my wedding.

2004
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 3: This check will pay for my wedding.

2005
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2006
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, But there's a lot of guys. There's a lot

2007
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: of guys on the Titans roster that I think made

2008
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: themselves money. Like I think Jordan Russ went out and

2009
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: I think he played really well. He plays hard. I

2010
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: think Corey Levin went out there and made some money

2011
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: for himself. Like those are the.

2012
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: Guys that I've rooted for. But I like, I'm not

2013
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 3: in alignment, so I don't know if.

2014
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, I thought Jordan, I think he's been

2015
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: starting for five weeks. I think he is. He played good, like,

2016
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: not hey did you did? You did? All right? Well,

2017
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: he played good football a couple you want back here

2018
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: and there. But I think he proved he proved a

2019
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: lot of people wrong. And I think Corey did the

2020
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: same thing because Corey's not the same person he was

2021
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: draft is the same draft class as year seventeen.

2022
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 4: Corey's like stories very similar to mine. Yeah, we were talking,

2023
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 4: like I was talking to him on the plane last night.

2024
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 4: Was that yesterday two days ago? It'sa alill blur And

2025
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 4: he was like, yeah, that was just my fourth start.

2026
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 4: Like Corey, it was just your fourth start last night.

2027
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, that was your second. That's crazy. COR's

2028
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 4: the best that he is awesome, He's super smart. Yeah,

2029
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 4: but the way he talks, like is this guy.

2030
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: Where he's coming out slower than he's so dude.

2031
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: He thinks fast and talks slow. He is the dude though,

2032
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: Like when he got here in twenty seventeen, I don't

2033
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: think he was a guy that I perceived as being

2034
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: happy to be on the football team, like happy to

2035
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: be in the NFL I've made it because I'm here

2036
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, just thankful for yeah being in the room. Yeah.

2037
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: And then he uh, he got cut. I think he

2038
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: went to the Jets and then he went to Denver

2039
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: and we had to the Bears, and the Bears too

2040
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: for a hot second, kind of like really in a

2041
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: big limbo part of his life gets a I guess

2042
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: a fourth chance in Tennessee again and is A was

2043
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: a completely different person still same great personality, still talked

2044
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 1: real slow. But he was definitely one of those guys

2045
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: that I could see he has made like a maturity

2046
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: growth being like I'm not satisfied with just being on

2047
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: a roster, and I think I think the boy made

2048
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: himself some money this the last few weeks.

2049
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,520
Speaker 2: You're out of role to know that you're a defendable,

2050
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 2: you're a dependable backup emergency situation, which is.

2051
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I think Corey could be a starter in the NFL,

2052
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: and I do believe Jordan Ruse can be also.

2053
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: I feel what you're saying.

2054
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 2: I'm just saying from situations like that, you almost need

2055
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: the confidence to know I've carved out, like I'm going

2056
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 2: to be on a roster next year. Now I get

2057
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: to take advantage of actually competing for a job, because

2058
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: when you're in and out of it that you're almost

2059
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: thinking like, man, what situation can I get into?

2060
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: Make the roster?

2061
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: And then you get to play a few games and

2062
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: you almost feel like, Okay, I've earned myself some money,

2063
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: meaning like I've earned myself a fifty three man spot.

2064
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: Now how can I look at There's a whole different

2065
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: winning a job.

2066
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: Different headspace, yeah, yeah, different headspace. Yeah. Because Jordan's stayed

2067
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: with me. His family was in Texas and during camp

2068
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: when they released the veteran Jordan's like, I don't I

2069
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: don't want to stay in the hotel. Can I stay

2070
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: at your house? So he didn't. We would drive together

2071
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: to practice, we would go we would constantly talk about

2072
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: like his situation because he would lean on me because

2073
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: obviously being somewhere knowing that I'm gonna have a role

2074
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: on this team and what I'm gonna be, he would

2075
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: lean on me, and I would just kind of like

2076
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: get Look, he gave him a letter grade every day.

2077
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you did this well. I thought you

2078
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: could have done this better. Blah blah blah. But put

2079
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: a really good camp together, and I think it was

2080
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 1: really looking where because at first it was him, Daniel

2081
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Munyer and Corey and there's always you know how camp is,

2082
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: there's always like battles within the position group, and that

2083
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: was his battle per se. Munyar gets hurt in one

2084
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: of the scrimmage practices we have, and I'm hurt for

2085
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Monier because that's my boy. But Jordan he's sat for

2086
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: Monyar too, But at the same time, he's thinking, I

2087
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: got an opportunity. That's one off the list right there.

2088
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Nate has a couple of things. Corey he starts feeling

2089
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: more into a center role. So I'm looking at the

2090
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: end of camp thinking, oh, my boy's gonna make this team.

2091
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: Like he's literally willed himself into it. Had a great camp,

2092
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: played hard. I think he had a tough last preseason

2093
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: game and he was really it was really weighing on him.

2094
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: And then two days before the active roster's done, we

2095
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: traded for Dennis Daly and I think that's the one

2096
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: that took him out of the race because he was

2097
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: a guy for that moment took him out and because

2098
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: he asked me like, what do you think, I'm like, well,

2099
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: I don't know the kid. I don't know Dennis Daly

2100
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: very well. I know him better now obviously, but I

2101
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: was like, it seems like a tackle, all right.

2102
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: I think they.

2103
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: They traded. I thought they were trading for a tackle

2104
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: because there was a whole situation with Dylan Raiden's he

2105
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: and Nick were fighting for the tackle spot. Then Nick

2106
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: wins that I think they're now trying to play Dylan

2107
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: in an inside three position, which also puts a little

2108
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: more pressure on Ruse, and they bring Dennison to be

2109
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: the backup tackle. Obviously a week into it, Dennis was

2110
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 1: thrust into a starting job. But that's what It's crazy.

2111
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: How you do all the right things and now he's

2112
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: fucking out, you know what I'm saying. But and then

2113
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he sits there, he works hard,

2114
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: gets elevated, sits around for ten weeks. He's making activated money.

2115
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: He's grinding. Guy's a workhorse. Also, you're a workhorse too.

2116
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I saw you in that weight room a few times.

2117
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: You were getting after it. Appreciated that wait on. But

2118
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm proud of I'm proud of Rus. I think I

2119
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: think his year is like just the grinder. He's a

2120
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: grinder that's literally making his NFL dream work and I'm

2121
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: fucking proud of that guy's doing a great job.

2122
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 4: So the stories are like awesome because it's like, shoot,

2123
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 4: you just you got grind.

2124
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: You just keep grinding, keep grinding, crying the way, keep

2125
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: chipping away.

2126
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 2: See like, I feel like you can see all the

2127
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: all those guys, right, and then you see the decisions

2128
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: made by one half and then decisions made by.

2129
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 3: The other half. The other half kind of.

2130
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Like you know, gets weeded out of the process, and

2131
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: you're kind of just you watch Ruse do his thing

2132
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: and you're just thinking, man, like, how fucking I'm rooting

2133
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: for him?

2134
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: Because this motherfucker does all things.

2135
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Everything right right, and then three times themselves out of

2136
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: the league. He was late to meetings three times. You

2137
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: never slept three times this year. And I will publicly

2138
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: say that Jordan Ruse, he needs that accountability. I got

2139
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 1: almost everything.

2140
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 3: Well probably. Yeah, that's gonna be tough from me here

2141
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 3: than on a public platform.

2142
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really be tough on there. But I've already

2143
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: said so many nice things. There's gotta be something. I

2144
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: have a dragon for the ball. It takes his one

2145
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: jab and he's flat. It's like the comments on Twitter.

2146
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: Did you see ten good ones and one bad one?

2147
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: Now one bad one? Things way worse about a chugging ability?

2148
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: And he was flustered. Yeah, but you're fast, like you,

2149
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: you shouldn't talk about peoples chuggability because of you're incredible.

2150
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 3: I understand that, but I'm talking about.

2151
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: All I had to do is tell Jordan like, oh yeah,

2152
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: Taylor murked you what are you talking about?

2153
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: And he was bamboozled for like the next two months.

2154
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, easily rattled Jordan Russ. That's tough. That's a tough

2155
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: pendulum swing on him just now, because there were so

2156
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: many good things about him. He was started that that's

2157
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: on me, that's on me. That's tough.

2158
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: What do we talk about now? This dude is an

2159
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: aerospace engineer. Yeah, I don't that's true.

2160
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: That's truewit certified rocket, certified rocket scientist.

2161
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a certified rocket scientist.

2162
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Was on my Twitter. I thought that that was the

2163
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: coolest thing.

2164
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 4: I've changed it when when I graduated, it's like certified

2165
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 4: rocket scientists.

2166
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 2: You know, that is insane. It's almost like the default

2167
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: thing you want to be when you grow up. You're

2168
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: just the youngest want to be a rocket scientist.

2169
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that even mean? You you scientifically know

2170
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: rockets now?

2171
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, like build you a rocket, go to space

2172
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 4: general studies major. One of my classes was astronautics, and

2173
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 4: it was like actually pretty mind blowing because it was

2174
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 4: literally like space travel, so you were you were doing.

2175
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 4: It's called like Homan transfers and non Homan transfers. So

2176
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 4: just like talking about like trajectory, what are those two words,

2177
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 4: what are those words mean? Homeland transfer? Like rocket is

2178
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 4: going to like you're trying to send a rocket from

2179
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 4: like Earth to Mars, like Earth to another planet, just

2180
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 4: like the math and.

2181
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: Stuff around it. You're gonna love our tier talk. What's

2182
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: what's that? You'll find out a little bit. Okay, don't worry,

2183
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: it's what you're talking about. But very dumb down eight

2184
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 1: year olds are gonna love this part of the show. Perfect.

2185
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: What was your one question going to be?

2186
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: Is time travel real?

2187
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 4: So my time traveling my time travel traveling piece is

2188
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 4: it's like so like time is the fourth dimension in

2189
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 4: our world, So like you had if you're in a

2190
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 4: two two dimensional world, no, no, no, it's so unbelievable.

2191
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 4: If you're in a two d world. Like if you're

2192
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: two D world like a picture book, right, you got

2193
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: two dimensions, the third dimensions time, so it's like the ability.

2194
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: The fourth thoughtally the fourth dimension. We're in a two

2195
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 1: D world. Now we went back.

2196
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 4: Okay, if you, like you have a book, it's two D,

2197
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 4: so the third dimension will be times, like the ability

2198
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 4: to like just flip the page pages and like go

2199
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 4: from a different spot in the book. So like in

2200
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 4: our three dimensional world, time is the fourth dimension. So

2201
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 4: if you could time travel, you have to be four

2202
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 4: dimensional in the three dimensional world.

2203
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, yeah, okay, So I understood what you

2204
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: said kind of, but I don't think you answered the

2205
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: question said.

2206
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it's time travel is real at the

2207
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 4: moment because I feel like I saw like one thing.

2208
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: One theory is like if time travel is real, like,

2209
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 4: time travel can't be real until the day someone creates

2210
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 4: a time machine, because then you can time travel backwards

2211
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: and force to that point. But until someone creates a

2212
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 4: time machine, you can't time travel to an area of

2213
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 4: time where there's no time machine.

2214
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 3: Do you think the potential's out there?

2215
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Have you ever seen an interstellar I

2216
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: have seen an interstellar fire. Okay, hold on, so hold on,

2217
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: that's the.

2218
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 3: Four D.

2219
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like before you could just pick where he

2220
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 4: wanted to go in the three DIMENSIONLD because it's in

2221
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 4: the fourth dimension.

2222
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: So if time time travel is only real when time

2223
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: travel is made when there's a time machine made, when

2224
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: a time machine made. So if the time machine was

2225
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,839
Speaker 1: made right now, and it was right outside this building,

2226
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: and we said, okay, we're gonna time travel. We can

2227
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: only travel to the future, we can't travel to the past.

2228
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 4: Interesting, you want to know what's the theory I just saw.

2229
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true. No, we're gonna take

2230
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 4: that as facts right out. That's you just gave me

2231
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 4: all the information I now know about time travel.

2232
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: Like that is that's a fucking it.

2233
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is like, say, the potential to

2234
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 2: create that is out there the moment it gets made,

2235
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: and you can time travel.

2236
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: Our future selves already knew we were going to come

2237
01:29:58,439 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 3: up with.

2238
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, because they look at their history books and say, oh,

2239
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is.

2240
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,520
Speaker 2: When he's out behind the library right now, a bookshelf,

2241
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: just yelling.

2242
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: Do this do that? You know what I mean?

2243
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows that it is going to come at

2244
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: some point. What massive implications are there on our species

2245
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: human beings with travel with no with time travel being

2246
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: able for the common man to do, isn't that extremely dangerous?

2247
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: I think so, I don't. I don't know.

2248
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: What's your opinion?

2249
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: Do you think rot science?

2250
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Come correct, brother, because.

2251
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about the butterfly fact? Well, like being

2252
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 4: a rocket science so fun because people a great movie.

2253
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 4: People are like, you got to know everything, like you

2254
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 4: becoming rock sided. People ask me about everything, like I don't.

2255
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 4: I don't know everything. I just know like rocket sciences stuff,

2256
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 4: so like time travel, like I know, like I know

2257
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 4: the couple.

2258
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 3: No rocket science.

2259
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 1: You think you all I know. I'm just a man,

2260
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: but I do know rocket science. They're not all knowing.

2261
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: You know.

2262
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 3: When you're done playing ball? Then what do you want

2263
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 3: to do with that?

2264
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,959
Speaker 1: Show it off on podcasts? Show it off on PA

2265
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: be like, uh, what's the podcast? What's that?

2266
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 4: What's the guy that goes on the podcast and talks

2267
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 4: uh the astrophysicists. Yeah, Neil de grasse be like him

2268
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 4: in talk circles around people. No, I won't, I won't.

2269
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 4: I won't do that. You have my attention. Wow, So

2270
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 4: I've done stuff at NASA, like I want to get

2271
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 4: my pilot license this off season.

2272
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: Nothing'm gonna do that? Why wherever? I think that would

2273
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: be dope like stuff like that. I really like aviation.

2274
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 4: I really like aviation, like stuff like growing up, planes

2275
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 4: was always my passion. I started aerospace engineering because aeronautical

2276
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 4: engineering would be just aviation. Aerospace engineering is aviation and space,

2277
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 4: so you get both just to see the differences. But

2278
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 4: I really like aviation. I think that would be that

2279
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 4: be something really cool to get into passions.

2280
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: If planes have always been your passion since you were

2281
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,560
Speaker 1: a little kid, why are you waiting? Why have you

2282
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: waited till now to get your polot license?

2283
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 4: I haven't had any time, honestly interesting, but like the

2284
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 4: last off seasons, Like my first off season, I did

2285
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 4: a externship of fanatics, just like learning, like how they

2286
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 4: grew their company from a business standpoint, to learn business.

2287
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 4: Second off season I was with NASA. Third off season

2288
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 4: I was with NASA. Fourth off season was COVID, so

2289
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 4: nothing was going on. I was with this stuff at NASA.

2290
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 4: So I just like haven't really like had the time

2291
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 4: or just been in I guess the physical place to

2292
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 4: be able to do it. So this off season really

2293
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 4: like where I got the point. So I got released

2294
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 4: from Cleveland end I'm going to practice squad as we

2295
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 4: all know, and so I was sitting there, I was like, yes,

2296
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm like I have to learn a playbook and everything,

2297
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 4: but I also I want to be really productive.

2298
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: With my time.

2299
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 4: I was like, it'll be something like cool to like

2300
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 4: set myself up for the off season. So I started

2301
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 4: taking the pilot's class. I was like, I'm gonna get

2302
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 4: my pilot's license. So I started taking the class and stuff.

2303
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 4: So I was doing that like in my free time.

2304
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: And then obviously since I got here, I haven't looked

2305
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 4: at it once because I had to you know, play

2306
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 4: but yeah, so I kind of like saw that.

2307
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want to do that this

2308
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 1: off season, so I'm gonna do it. There you and

2309
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: that fires me up. Do you know what plenty want

2310
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: to fly in?

2311
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna do it with serious over in Knoxville. Yeah,

2312
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: they make a lot of single engine jets and planes,

2313
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 4: so I want to fly in one of their jets.

2314
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: So I'll probably training your planet. You want to train

2315
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: in a jet? No, excuse me one of their planes.

2316
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get like a jet license that takes

2317
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 4: like a lot of a lot of hours, the fourth

2318
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 4: license down.

2319
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

2320
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do like the forty hour one, where's like

2321
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one days like hard training and be awesome.

2322
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: You can just go fly wherever. It'd be awesome. Are

2323
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: your instrument as well? Uh? Probably, yeah, in time, if

2324
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 1: I have enough time to do it. But man, that

2325
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: is sick because serious is like the new coming of

2326
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: age single prop planes. Yeah, they have the thing called

2327
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: s R twenty two little doors that kind of come up.

2328
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: They're like all carbon fiber like the Lamborghini like butterfly doors. Yeah,

2329
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: they're sick.

2330
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: They're awesome custom make if you want to get one,

2331
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 4: they're on back order. I can't really fully afford, like

2332
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 4: I act my own one, but if you when you

2333
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 4: when I can, like you can get one like super

2334
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 4: decked out customized like they're dope.

2335
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Second picture on the right, that's their their serious business jet.

2336
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 3: That one.

2337
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that thing legit. You will sit in it

2338
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: and it's like an extended sitting in an extended suburban suv.

2339
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super comfortable.

2340
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 4: There was a single single engine, so the engine problems,

2341
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 4: they have a parachute at the poise that for like

2342
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 4: as its safety feature. Yeah, and it's actually they've actually

2343
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 4: had to do it like a couple of times, and

2344
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 4: they say, like, every time we do it, it's really

2345
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 4: cool because it just reconfirms that even though it's a

2346
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: single engine jet, like, we still have redundancies to make

2347
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 4: sure everyone's safe.

2348
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if, like the pilot gets incapacitated, there's a

2349
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: button on top of the roof. You just press that

2350
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 1: button and the computer will locate the nearest airport and

2351
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: land for you. No, you don't touch nothing. Jesus.

2352
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 3: So you like you enjoy like flying around more than

2353
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 3: you do like being in space.

2354
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been to space.

2355
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying, do you aspire to go to space?

2356
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: That was that was a great comeback.

2357
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: Said it.

2358
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, he has no we have

2359
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: to we have to be okay with the fact that

2360
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: we know we're sitting with a man that's much smarter

2361
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: than us. Sure, I hope to gain whatever knowledge he

2362
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: has to give us, whatever droplets of information we can take.

2363
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 3: We got to soak that in but laughing at me

2364
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 3: for dumb questions.

2365
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, I'm telling you it's okay.

2366
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 4: I want to go to space, I would say, like

2367
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 4: I've like thought about it. So every time I go

2368
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 4: to NASA, the first thing they asked me is like,

2369
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 4: but when you're gonna start astronaut training? I'm like, dang,

2370
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 4: you guys are like really serious about this, Like they

2371
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 4: have me do a whole promo for them for getting

2372
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 4: people to sign up to be the astronauts and everything,

2373
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 4: like they're really Like the Bob Cabana He's the head

2374
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 4: of Kennedy Space. Every time I see him, he's like,

2375
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 4: you know, when are you? When are you gonna come

2376
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 4: work for me and go to space? Like, damn man,

2377
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 4: you're really serious about this thing. So I think I

2378
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 4: think in time, like I probably would. I think that'll

2379
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 4: be really cool. Yeah, I'm in no rush to do it,

2380
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 4: like at this point, but with all this stuff going

2381
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 4: like so much commercial space opportunities are out there, so

2382
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 4: I think I think it's something I would do down

2383
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 4: the road.

2384
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 3: Would you want an internship with SpaceX?

2385
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: Internship with SpaceX?

2386
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 4: I would want to go see what they do because like,

2387
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 4: just so I've so they have a big site down

2388
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 4: NASA and Florida, and they say, like just talking with

2389
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 4: the NASA people, like those SpaceX engineers work around the clock.

2390
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 4: So I went over there, and so they have won

2391
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 4: the launch pads. They have two launch pass down there,

2392
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 4: so when they saw their launch paths and they have

2393
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 4: their landing zone where they land their rockets like at

2394
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 4: the space station after they detach. And so just like

2395
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 4: I've been around them, like I've seen their operation. Those

2396
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 4: people work like around the clock. I guess, like what

2397
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 4: they what they've done for the space industry, They've they've

2398
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 4: changed the game just because of how often, like how

2399
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 4: much they work, like how many strides they take forward

2400
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 4: and shorts amount of time, how many rockets they launch.

2401
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 4: When they launch a rocket like every week and then

2402
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 4: they land it and reuse it and then launch it again.

2403
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Musk is the answer.

2404
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 4: But I think I think or Twitter, I'll for Twitter.

2405
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 4: I don't only get I don't only get kicked off Twitter.

2406
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 3: That's hot. But I just wanted to ask that question

2407
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 3: so that way we had it for whatever clip we

2408
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 3: want to make.

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01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:12,560
Speaker 4: In case I think exactly, I mean, he's changing the

2410
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 4: game like, yeah, I think.

2411
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: So, yeah, do you think he could easily become a villain?

2412
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 4: Do I think he could become I mean, I think

2413
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 4: he has the power to. I don't think he would

2414
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 4: because everything, everything that he's done literally has helped.

2415
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 1: To civilization, like work smoother, like that's how it starts.

2416
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 4: Start starlink, they're watching Wi Fi for literally anywhere anywhere

2417
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 4: in the world you can have Wi Fi Tesla. We

2418
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 4: know what Tesla's doing with electric cars, you know, and

2419
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 4: he's like, all the strides that NASA will make to

2420
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 4: go to the Moon, go to Mars happen because they

2421
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 4: have companies like SpaceX pushing the.

2422
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: Envelope on everything that they're doing. So that's a rocket

2423
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: sciences answer, that's right. So obviously I don't think you're

2424
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: going to have the answer, and if you do, I

2425
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: can't wait. What is the future for space travel for

2426
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: the normal, for like the general population. So that's a

2427
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: great question.

2428
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: For president one day.

2429
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 4: I would say, like in the next the next twenty years,

2430
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 4: people will be like going to the Moon, and I

2431
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 4: won't won't be it won't be an odd occurrence that

2432
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 4: normal civilisits normal civilians. They want to go to the Moon,

2433
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 4: they'll have the ability to do it. I think like

2434
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 4: there will be people on Mars too soon. I don't know,

2435
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 4: like how soon people like what farming like, are they like.

2436
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: You want to go on Mars?

2437
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 4: I mean they're training astronauts to go to Mars actively

2438
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 4: and live there. Yeah, dude, I mean so the NASA,

2439
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 4: So I worked on the NASA Artemist project that was

2440
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 4: to go back to the Moon. So the rocket that

2441
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 4: I was like working around launched the beginning of December

2442
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 4: or end of November I believe, and so that was

2443
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 4: I was unmanned, went to the Moon. It's like a

2444
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 4: twenty day mission. The circles around the Moon came back.

2445
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 4: But it is for the next launch in a couple

2446
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 4: of years where they're going to be rebuild the rocket.

2447
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 4: It's going to take people to the Moon and then

2448
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 4: like the fourth iteration of that rocket is to go

2449
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 4: to Mars and then to take people to Mars.

2450
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: So it's close, it's very close.

2451
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 4: NASA works slower because there's a lot of red tape,

2452
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of political things around it. I mean

2453
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 4: the president changes every four or eight years, and that

2454
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 4: really changes, like NASA and like how fast that they

2455
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 4: can work and move forward. But because the commercial companies

2456
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 4: want to do it, the government will want to do it,

2457
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 4: and like, so it's going to happen soon. And because

2458
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 4: also like people are interested in it. People are interested

2459
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 4: in space. People want to go to space. It's that

2460
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 4: cool now like it was in the sixties. So that'll

2461
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 4: be something. People will be going to the moon and

2462
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 4: then shoot Mars as well.

2463
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 3: Is Josh EU's the smartest guest we've ever had on

2464
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 3: the podcast.

2465
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, yeah, him, and I

2466
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 1: think number two would probably be a Burt Kreischer. It's

2467
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: a big drop off. It's a big it's a big

2468
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: drop firstas phenomenally, he's a very smart individual. He ain't

2469
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: no rockets some of those.

2470
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 3: Things where Josh, you're talking, You're just like, oh yeah, yeah, like.

2471
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm legit, like learning. I feel like I'm like, yeah,

2472
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, appreciate that. Imagine being the first, like

2473
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: the first group of guys and gals that are like,

2474
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: all right, you guys want to go to the moon,

2475
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: and it's like fuck, hey, let's go. And then like

2476
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: week out that's in like we're the first ones to

2477
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: do this, Like for vacation too.

2478
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 2: You remember vacation, like how we're going to Cabo, Like

2479
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 2: it's hey, I'm getting this tickets, Let's go to the

2480
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: moon for five nights.

2481
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard. It's great this time of year. Let's

2482
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: go check it out. Yeah dude, Uh what was that?

2483
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Was that in the nineties when like they sent like

2484
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: teachers up to space and that that blew up? Yeah,

2485
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't challenger, I want to disquote it. Challenger. Yeah,

2486
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: so they have your school bus gone wrong? So yo, dude,

2487
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: So NASA has.

2488
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 3: A statement your school bus.

2489
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I got the joe.

2490
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough joke.

2491
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 4: They have a room in the v A B down

2492
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 4: there where's dedicated to to the ash and they make

2493
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 4: all the commercial companies, like all the engineers that come

2494
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 4: through NASA. You have to go in the room and

2495
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 4: you literally see the wreckage. You see parts of the

2496
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 4: shuttle that they went and found and put in the room,

2497
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 4: all the records and stuff. Just as a reminder that,

2498
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 4: like every day that you're working, it might be monotonous.

2499
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 4: It might be she's been ten years since they've launched

2500
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 4: a rocket, but you put people on the rocket, you

2501
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 4: know it's actually souls going to space and your work.

2502
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 4: You know, even though you're looking at the math and

2503
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 4: it's important, it's even more important with the life factor.

2504
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: So it's pretty cool.

2505
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 4: It's like you going there, you know, you're like, oh,

2506
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 4: a NASA school, and then you walk in there just

2507
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 4: puts it all into perspective.

2508
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: Fuck man, crazy, too good for this bus? Hey, before

2509
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: before we do tier talk. While you were talking, I

2510
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: forgot about some part of our conversation. Okay, okay, okay,

2511
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: hurry up and pee. Though you said that you and

2512
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: I have had a couple run ins before when we

2513
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: ran into each other before, I was just talking about

2514
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: the complex, Okay. I don't know if there was like

2515
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 1: a drunken stupidly now I always got losers or something.

2516
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, you were, Actually what's that I

2517
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 1: saw bender in Arizona was crazy? Yeah, a riot house

2518
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: in Arizona, dude, or the super Bowl that literally was

2519
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 1: the spot too. Always old town. I can't stay in

2520
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: old town like that. Though. Old town was fun for

2521
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: like a couple of days. And then you're like, I'm good,

2522
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: I know, but I just see when I grew up

2523
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: in Arizona, I gre up in Cave Creek and My

2524
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: mom would always have like this personal vendetta against everybody

2525
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: that lives in Scotsdale. We get down there and you

2526
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 1: see the street signs start to change. You of these

2527
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: rich fucks like they're a bunchet, like you would like

2528
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: implement like money. Money's yeah, Money's the enemy in my mind.

2529
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: So I get down to Scotstone, like all these fake

2530
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: people out here. I still like at thirty one, I

2531
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 1: had that scene like programming in my head. I gotta

2532
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: get over that. I gotta I gotta move on from that. Uh.

2533
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, old Town is every girl from my not

2534
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 1: every girl, but most of the girls from my high school,

2535
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 1: Like they go to college and then they get jobs

2536
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: at like Bottle Blonde and stuff like that. So look

2537
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: key when you go back, when you go back to visit,

2538
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: you're like you kind of feel like the man because

2539
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: you know a whole bunch of one. You're like, you

2540
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: can go. What's crazy to me is like when I

2541
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 1: was at that age, I'd be like, yeah, this is sick.

2542
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 1: And then you'd see like some thirty year old guy

2543
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: and you're like, what are you doing now? I'd like

2544
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: think to myself, if I go to Old Town, I'm like,

2545
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm fucking that thirty year old guy. I missed an

2546
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: old fuck now, No, you can go screw it man. Yeah,

2547
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess may probably not all right. Tier talk. So

2548
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the way tier Talk's going to work is we're basically

2549
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: tier like the way we UH talk about our audience.

2550
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: We have Tier one fans like they would drink the

2551
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,759
Speaker 1: kool aid. They're in the cult, they're about the business.

2552
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 1: Peer two is like just under Tier one. Obviously they're

2553
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: like they watched, they listen, but they're not like extremely

2554
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: diehard fans. And there's a tier Tier threes who are

2555
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: like basic viewers. So in tier talk, we have our category,

2556
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: which today is jack planets, best planets, best planets, a

2557
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: lot of things. I might we might have a God

2558
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 1: tier on our hands. To you boys, we might have

2559
01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 1: a God tier. So the whole idea behind that is,

2560
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: I you're gonna go three to one. You can have

2561
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 1: an honorable mention in there if you want, and then

2562
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be uh your third favorite, second favorite,

2563
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and first favorite planets planets after you finish. And there's

2564
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 1: a lot of gentlemen on this bus today. I hope

2565
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 1: the camera can get the camera of everybody on the bus. Plus,

2566
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: everybody will go around with their microphone and give one

2567
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 1: word to describe how they felt about your tier talk. Okay,

2568
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of pressure here. I'm the only

2569
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: one doing it. No, we're all gonna do it, you,

2570
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: me and Will. It's gonna be a good deal. It's

2571
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: just best okay, best planets. I know it's a weird.

2572
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 1: That's why I said like, it's very elementary.

2573
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 3: I uh, I kind of know.

2574
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I know what my honorable mention is for sure, and

2575
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: I know what my tier one is.

2576
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 3: Would you.

2577
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I think we might have got here God teers is

2578
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: like you, Me and Will just like say, like our

2579
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: favorite planet is this, It becomes God's here. Now You're

2580
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 1: tier two? Is now your tier one? Tier three? Blah

2581
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: blah blah. You have to find a new tier three.

2582
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Always start us off.

2583
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 2: I gotta start yourself with the tier talk. Yeah, planets,

2584
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:07,839
Speaker 2: I can't prepare it. My tier three, no honorable mentions.

2585
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 2: God knows it won't make the graphic. Although it is

2586
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 2: a new year, new US, new year, new US.

2587
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 3: Your news.

2588
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you put the honorable mentions in the graphic now.

2589
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, honorable mention. No, I know we're listening.

2590
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to be met with that kind of defense.

2591
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: We're doing the thing right now, we're trying to do

2592
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 2: a bit. Just honorable mention. Shout out to Pluto. I

2593
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 2: would love to shout out Pluto. I feel like it's

2594
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 2: somebody you kind of want to get to know planet right,

2595
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 2: They got exiled, they kind of get kicked out of

2596
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 2: the classroom. You kind of want to know a little

2597
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 2: bit about their story. Maybe they got something going on.

2598
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give an honorable mention shout.

2599
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Out to Pluto's mine.

2600
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 3: You maye me go first, you may be go no.

2601
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you think of it. I don't think

2602
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: you think of it.

2603
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 2: My Tier three is going to go to Planet l

2604
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,360
Speaker 2: V twelve oh one. You guys might be wondering what

2605
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: that's from. It's it's home to one of the best

2606
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 2: crossover series that have been made, Alien Versus Predator.

2607
01:45:58,880 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 3: It's the breeding ground.

2608
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 2: It's planet where it's infested with aliens and predators come

2609
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 2: every now and in the hunt big game, and they

2610
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 2: call that that's that's their sport. So my Tier three

2611
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 2: is gonna go to Planet LV twelve zero one.

2612
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 3: My Tier two.

2613
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 2: The Year of getting Jack twenty twenty three my shot.

2614
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 2: My tier two goes to planet fitness. So by making

2615
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 2: gains and twenty twenty three boys and getting Jack and

2616
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 2: getting sculpted is one of them. My tier two is

2617
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: planet fitness, my tier one, and my tier one is

2618
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: true and dear to my heart, it's a shout out,

2619
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: it's a it's a tip of the cap to a

2620
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 2: Star Wars Dagleba dagle ba is a dagglebar diglebag goo bah.

2621
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 3: There we go.

2622
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: Obviously it's true and dear to my heart. I can't

2623
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 2: always pronounce the words correctly. I'm not on that Alpha

2624
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 2: Bran black lebel right now. But that's where Yoda was

2625
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 2: lived in exile after the third Star Wars in the series,

2626
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 2: in the swampy forest in the swampy Forest, and brought

2627
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,480
Speaker 2: the hope, the Jedi hope back by training Luke Skywalker

2628
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 2: and teaching him the ways of the Force. A lot

2629
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 2: of law of attraction, biblical foundational teachings and philosophies come

2630
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 2: out of that movie, and it started one that's my

2631
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 2: tier one that runs on my list of favorite planets.

2632
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: That was pretty good.

2633
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 2: You're kind of thinking about the planets nic my list

2634
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 2: is a little different, all right, one word bloss.

2635
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 9: The elite, thank you, blass, nice, fictional, right, hilarious, I

2636
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 9: love it.

2637
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: Wrong, he gets it. He knows that he understands. What's

2638
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 2: your word to describe my tier?

2639
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: Talk? Solid?

2640
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 3: Just okay, it's the.

2641
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 1: First word date in my head. Imaginative, thank you? Good word?

2642
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: Do I get?

2643
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 3: Ask Thomas why he's a fucking hater? Yeah?

2644
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ask him. I want to get one word

2645
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: to respond. Now, you can describe it?

2646
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up with describe it?

2647
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 5: Go ba?

2648
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 10: You know, I just I wasn't thinking in the confine.

2649
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 10: I was thinking of the confines of our eight planets

2650
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 10: in reality, you know, not necessarily businesses or fake planets.

2651
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess it's not no hate Big

2652
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 1: Star Wars guys. Sounds like Thomas has really just falling

2653
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: into a lack of imagination. You forgot the child and

2654
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I will.

2655
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 10: I'm a total serious guy. There's nothing in me that

2656
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 10: your beanie says it all. Yeah, my yellow and orange together.

2657
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, small town thinking. You're only thinking in.

2658
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the box.

2659
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 2: Man.

2660
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad we figured out this is a you problem,

2661
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 1: not a Will problem.

2662
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 3: That's that's in the box. Yeah, but out of the galaxy.

2663
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: Brother, it's not me. Man, thanks wrong, But you want

2664
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: to go? You want me to go?

2665
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 3: Or should you? Sure? Do you want Taylor to go?

2666
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: I'll go because I don't. I don't want to go. Last,

2667
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 1: because I don't think mine's gonna be that great. Well,

2668
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: that kind of attitude, I won't. All right, I'll go.

2669
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: The first off, I want to give a shout out

2670
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: to Will Compton. I think he did a phenomenal job there.

2671
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 1: I am going to give an honorable mention. My honorable

2672
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 1: mention will be the same as Will's. It's gonna go

2673
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: to Pluto. When I was in third grade, that motherfucker

2674
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 1: was a planet. Now all of a sudden, you're trying

2675
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: to tell me it's not a planet. Take out my

2676
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: fucking school, and then I had, fuck you school, that

2677
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 1: is a planet. And I think it was done wrong.

2678
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,799
Speaker 1: I think it was very disrespectful what they did to Pluto.

2679
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: And I think Pluto needs its day. Pluto needs to

2680
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 1: be talked about more fucking free Pluto, dude, because this

2681
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 1: is out in the conference. When I was googling shit,

2682
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: it literally had the eight planets and they made the

2683
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: planets big enough to where they had the stuff out

2684
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: Pluto's little lass. Like, put Pluto back in the fucking

2685
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: image and just put Pluto, dude, and just.

2686
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 3: Go from there.

2687
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to cut you off, but Pluto hasn't

2688
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 4: gone one lap around the Earth in your life. I

2689
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 4: mean one lap around the Sun in Earth?

2690
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I mean it's like, it's not

2691
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 1: a planet.

2692
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 3: No, No, it's follower.

2693
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 1: He's followers by its own drums. It's not y'all just

2694
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: want to go in circles all day. I'm out here

2695
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:54,760
Speaker 1: doing you know what I'm saying.

2696
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 3: Let me be the longest time to get around.

2697
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 1: You see how follow mo fucker's out there. You can't

2698
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: even see it. Yeah, we really Jupiter sometimes, that bag

2699
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 1: ass piece of shit, my tier two, it's gonna go

2700
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 1: to Neptune, that big blue sorry, my tier three, not

2701
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,759
Speaker 1: my tier two. My Tier three is gonna go to Neptune.

2702
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 1: That planet is overshadowed by Jupiter, that big ass ball

2703
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,400
Speaker 1: of whatever with that little fucking is that Jupiter with

2704
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 1: all the gas. It's really big and has that cool hole. Yeah,

2705
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: all right, Neptune, the red Neptune, low key, the only

2706
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: reason why it's in my tier talk is anytime I

2707
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: saw a picture, I thought to myself, that's a cute

2708
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: ass planet. That thing's blue, It's beautiful, and I love it.

2709
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: I like Neptune, dude. I like Neptune a lot.

2710
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 3: Neptune.

2711
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Tier two is Youranus, and you can probably

2712
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 1: pick together why I thought Tier two should be Uranus, dude,

2713
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,560
Speaker 1: because I think it's somewhere we all want to be.

2714
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 1: We all want to be in Uranus.

2715
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 3: Will you like fingering?

2716
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 1: Dude? Dude? What are you talking about? You do something twice, dude,

2717
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're a bad guy. Why mean, dude?

2718
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Bro? I'm a bad dude, dude

2719
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: because I like whatever. I fuck with your anis, Dude,

2720
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: I messed with your anis and my Tier one salute

2721
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 1: to the earth, dude. You got water, you got gravel,

2722
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 1: you got that good ass oxygen. People can breathe wherever

2723
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: they want around there. People are bitching about the trees

2724
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: and stuff too.

2725
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: Bro.

2726
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: They were the only place that you can just get

2727
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: out and go and be all right without a doubt,

2728
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: without a dumb ass mask on. You be grateful. Yeah,

2729
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: we could probably save more trees. Plant a couple, dude.

2730
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: We should do that this year for twenty twenty three.

2731
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 1: I only get Jack, but planet a couple of trees.

2732
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Help out this beautiful earth. That is my tiar Talk

2733
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: the Earth get jacked. Help the Earth get Jack, dude,

2734
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 1: helpe the Earth get Jack. I will before you guys,

2735
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: do your one word. I didn't like that. I was

2736
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 1: interrupted multiple times. All right, do it if you need

2737
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: to put that into one year one word, that's fine.

2738
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: But just know that pissed me off a little bit. Dude,

2739
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: that's fair. That is yeah.

2740
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 2: I apologize too, Thank you. My question was going to

2741
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 2: be like, why were you so angry persenting the whole time?

2742
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was passionate, dude, No, but ugly

2743
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: ass you got mad. I got mad about Pluto because

2744
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I remember being I remember being in third grade being like,

2745
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 1: that's a cute ass little dot like hanging out, and

2746
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it was just gone and

2747
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 1: there was really no explanation there, just like, no, it's

2748
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: a star or what is it a star? The thing

2749
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: is a satellite? Considered a satellite? Now either is her WiFi?

2750
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 2: No?

2751
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 1: How is it?

2752
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 3: Is it a satellite? Neptune.

2753
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Neptune. Neptune. Neptu is massive, massive, Just too small,

2754
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, it's just too small.

2755
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 3: He got the little guy. That's crazy, dude, you.

2756
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: Know, rules at me. I'm just reporting the news. Darren

2757
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Sproles was too small there, look at him. Proven the

2758
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: hater is wrong. My boy Deuce out in Kansas State.

2759
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: They said he was too small. Blake Krn was too small.

2760
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. Just can't be football players. Just

2761
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 1: it'll be.

2762
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 3: Difference.

2763
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 1: So I apologize for my anger coming out, but Pluto

2764
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: did rough me up a little bit. Boyce one word passionate,

2765
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 1: thank you vulgar intergalactic mm hmmm, intense, grateful, thank you,

2766
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: cosmic invigorating passion. I'll think all this, I'll think all.

2767
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 4: Yours is very truthful. I'm like Will's his His was

2768
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 4: a little fantasy, you know.

2769
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved I'm coming from the Heartwell.

2770
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: Also, before you go, Mitch, I feel like you just

2771
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: find out a word in your head and regardless of

2772
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: what anyone says, like you this, that's what you do

2773
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: in intergalactic. It was a cool word, and I enjoyed that.

2774
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: But I also thought to myself, that's not genuine. That's

2775
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 1: just something he thought to himself as he was talking,

2776
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, Oh, it's a cool big word I'm

2777
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: gonna say. And you got what you wanted?

2778
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 3: Did you really buzz light? Youer said this in toy story.

2779
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna use that.

2780
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 4: Hi, Josh, you're up, dude, I'm up, all right, My

2781
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,200
Speaker 4: honorable mention to start because everyone pronounces it wrong. It's Uranus,

2782
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 4: not Youurinus only for his pronunciation issues, all right? Tier three.

2783
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 4: Tier three will start with Venus is Earth's evil twin.

2784
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 4: I just think it's sick, like if you just look

2785
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 4: at the science behind it. They have like crazy hailstorms.

2786
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 4: It's just an intense planet. My Tier two is Mars

2787
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 4: because it's the future of human civilization, is where we're

2788
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 4: going next. And my Tier one is Earth, just like Taylor,

2789
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 4: thankful to be here?

2790
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Why is Earth? Why is Earth and Venus? Why are

2791
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: they considered twins? Because we live on Venus.

2792
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 4: They're the same size, same mass, But like everything Earth has,

2793
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:57,919
Speaker 4: like oxygen and nitrogen, like Venus has the exact opposite,

2794
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 4: So no, we can't.

2795
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Live what's the opposite of? For those people that don't know,

2796
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: I think.

2797
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 4: It's like very high. I think like carbon diog. I

2798
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 4: don't know all the science, but I did it. I

2799
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 4: learned it one time. I was like, oh that sounds

2800
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 4: pretty cool.

2801
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2802
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 2: I just love the fact that you asked the question

2803
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm sure people out there like like

2804
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: we're all in class right now.

2805
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Question. Yeah, Hey, well you just cost you cost all

2806
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 1: over me like spin in my arm.

2807
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't think I think all right anything?

2808
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: All right? One word bloss.

2809
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 3: Knowledge mm hmm.

2810
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Stellar, Here we go. It comes straightforward words. That's a

2811
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: hyphen hyphenated words here. Educated. Uh, you better not say

2812
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 1: it again.

2813
01:55:55,920 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 8: Smart, Yeah, thanks malone, hyphen milky way mm hmm yeah, informative.

2814
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was good, dude, that was good.

2815
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: Should be included them on a shot out No Free

2816
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: SHADOWT if we want to you, are you familiar with

2817
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: shoutout No Free SHADOWT?

2818
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: What's that?

2819
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 3: So you've never watched an episode?

2820
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I've watched it. I haven't watched a full episode. You

2821
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 1: just watched the clips. Fair Tier three of you.

2822
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 3: We have a lot. We have a big Tier three

2823
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 3: fan base.

2824
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so shout Out No Free Shadow is our favorite

2825
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: segment of the week. The way we phrase shout out,

2826
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: no free shadow is on this podcast, We're not going

2827
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: to shout you off. We're not gonna shout you out.

2828
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta pay to play in this game.

2829
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: This is our opportunity to dish out a couple of

2830
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: shout outs to those small little things in life that

2831
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe are overlooked or underappreciated. So we will all go first,

2832
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: and then you may have the floor if you would

2833
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 1: like to bloss just us. All right, do you want

2834
01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: to go first? Time? We go first? Go ahead.

2835
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 3: It happened this morning. Oh my shout out, no free

2836
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 3: shout out goes to.

2837
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,800
Speaker 1: I forget how mana are you want me to? My

2838
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: shout out, no free shout out goes to when you're

2839
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 1: at the cash register and you're speaking to somebody and

2840
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 1: they look at you and they say, all right, that'll

2841
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: be however much money at twelve forty nine and you

2842
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 1: put your credit card in and then they take the

2843
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 1: little white thing and they spin it back to them

2844
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: and they don't give themselves a tip because they realize

2845
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: they turn it too fast, and they press no tip.

2846
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: They were the bad guy for themselves. They took that

2847
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 1: extra initiative. Yeah, and so you kind of walk away

2848
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: being like, damn, they actually deserve a tip now for

2849
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 1: not taking a tip for themselves. But the integrity of

2850
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: that individual. Wow, that's incredible. The good shout out, thank

2851
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: you much about that. On the SPOS.

2852
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: My shout out, no free shoutout goes to love at

2853
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: first taste when you get that when you take it,

2854
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 2: whether it's a swig, have that first bite and you

2855
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: get that electric shock down both your jaws that you

2856
01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 2: just tasted something nice, dude, go out to that little

2857
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 2: subtle difference that mixed in your day because when you

2858
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 2: take something this but it was after a hard workout.

2859
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 3: I took a h I took a.

2860
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: Drink of that drink you put me on, yeah, Celsius, Celsius,

2861
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 2: so Celsius drinks. I took the little peach flavored and

2862
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 2: it rocked my job, dude, And I was like, dude,

2863
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 2: I'm in heaven. Yeah, I'm glad to be out of

2864
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 2: this workout sipping some liquid with the boys. So my

2865
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 2: shout out, my shout out, no free shoutout goes to

2866
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 2: love at first taste.

2867
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one dude there at the end.

2868
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 3: But I was tripping a little bit, but I caught myself.

2869
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: All right, Josh, do you want to give one. I'll

2870
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 1: give one. I'll give one.

2871
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 4: My shoutout, no free shadows, I say, all right. My

2872
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 4: shout out, no free shoudout goes to sleeping your own bed.

2873
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 4: You know when you when you're traveling on the road,

2874
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 4: you haven't been home for a long time. Just the

2875
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 4: first time you're able to look at your bed, jumping

2876
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,920
Speaker 4: in and sleeping. It just that sensation of being home.

2877
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good, good shout out because them covers

2878
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: will touch you nice.

2879
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 3: Bro the next way, Yeah, then you're rock up next second.

2880
01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 3: You don't know what to do. You're like, am I

2881
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 3: gonna go to bed right now?

2882
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: I am?

2883
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 3: I gonna finish this boy off?

2884
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's what you start like straightening

2885
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 2: your legs is stiffening your legs?

2886
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, what are we doing? He kind of

2887
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 1: comes out the seat you Yeah, dude, nothing like jerking

2888
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 1: off in your own bed. Shout out. That was Josh Jobs.

2889
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 1: Is jerking off in your own bed, Josh Jobs. There

2890
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:27,960
Speaker 1: is a nice little deal when you get in like

2891
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: a from the opposite Like you get in a hotel room.

2892
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 1: You locked that door and the night is over. An

2893
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: eric ass, little watery ass lotion, You're like you're about

2894
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: to have hell. You look at your little buddy and

2895
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: you go, you know what's up? Yeah?

2896
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 2: See, I'm lazy though, I don't think uh, I don't

2897
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 2: think lotion, Like I want my hands to kind of

2898
01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 2: stay dry, so I just get that rag.

2899
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I'm rag. I'm straight.

2900
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that little that little water lotion

2901
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: needs the Yeah, hotel.

2902
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 3: Room, you gotta get up and go wash your hands after?

2903
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't you just wipe it with the same Yeah,

2904
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:00,520
Speaker 1: I kind of get right, you know when you have

2905
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: the rag and you have like that hard streak after

2906
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: like you had to, like like you're taking off a

2907
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: layer of skin with that rag. And the next day

2908
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 1: you wake up and you're like the scent is still there.

2909
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 3: Which is nice.

2910
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: It's all right, Like something the best said you can

2911
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 1: probably get is like eucalyptus or lavender, but usually it's

2912
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: that plain Jane, like you know there's lotion there. But

2913
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, are people going to realize

2914
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: this loas is only on one hand?

2915
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 3: And I got after it last week with some conditioner.

2916
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh, matter of fact, those dukes duke Cannon yea their conditioner. Yeah,

2917
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 2: Cannon conditioner had this nice minty smell.

2918
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 1: That can hurt. Though it can hurt, but it felt nice.

2919
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 3: I had the cooling sensation afterwards a little bit. I

2920
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 3: was a little frightened because of my story, right, but

2921
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't like that. It was nice.

2922
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you do you remember the first time you

2923
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: masturbate him? Do you remember the first time you did?

2924
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 1: Do you?

2925
02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 3: We've talked about it before on the pod like pod, Yeah, Like,

2926
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. It's your story to tell if you

2927
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 3: want to tell it.

2928
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you my I remember my first time.

2929
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: I remember like it was yesterday. I don't really want

2930
02:00:59,080 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 1: to know your first time.

2931
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 3: He's around the line.

2932
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate your openness, though, I do. I really do

2933
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 4: appreciate it.

2934
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, LimeWire was involved.

2935
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 3: Are you sure?

2936
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Are you sure you don't want to We talked about

2937
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: on the pod. Yeah, go Adam twenty two, so you don't.

2938
02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 1: I won't assume you don't want to talk about your

2939
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: first time masturbating on I'll probably pass. It's maybe maybe

2940
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:23,720
Speaker 1: my second time.

2941
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 3: It's probably smart just because you got like Nass and

2942
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 3: some big ship in.

2943
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:31,640
Speaker 1: Your future's watching this podcast right now. Yeah, he masturbated.

2944
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 1: Never mind, but some homies in Nass and it's like.

2945
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:35,880
Speaker 3: Oh, they're on they're on this podcast. I want to

2946
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 3: watch Josh Thopps.

2947
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, getting you guys, you know some some new viewership. Yeah,

2948
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 1: it'd be cool. Client, It's cool.

2949
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 3: It's gonna be more of the University of Tennessee.

2950
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 2: It feels seems like you're like I loved there's Peyton

2951
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 2: Manning and there's probably Josh Opps.

2952
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 1: Yes, what about what about the last of the game.

2953
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 1: He saw he saw it at the game.

2954
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I saw. That's why I'm saying that, Yeah.

2955
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 4: The game that the games are hilarious, just like the

2956
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 4: like I mean, just like going upstairs and yeah, like

2957
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 4: the whole process of it.

2958
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 3: They're all about. They're all about Josh stops.

2959
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 1: Dude. That's awesome. That's an incredible feeling. You do you

2960
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 1: feel that the rest of your life live you should

2961
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: go at least once a year, the rest of your life,

2962
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 1: just to get that ego boost.

2963
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 4: Just just like if I'm feeling down on myself, I

2964
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 4: just should go to no oh, it's fall not for long.

2965
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 1: It was.

2966
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,000
Speaker 2: I got to meet him. I had the privilege of

2967
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 2: meeting him in right in front of the elevator. I

2968
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 2: remember it clearly, and I was thinking, don't overplay your hand,

2969
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Will and you should come on the bus one day.

2970
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 1: Do you say you should come on the bus. There's

2971
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:29,200
Speaker 1: always trying to get people on the bus like that.

2972
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm always at the recruiting always ABC, always be closing.

2973
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.

2974
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 1: My sales tactic, We'll got some strings.

2975
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 2: Though.

2976
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: He was in the Chancellor's box, he was up there.

2977
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: I saw you. You really like that food?

2978
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 2: He said, you really like that? And I knew there

2979
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 2: was underground because of Jack too. Like Jack goes like

2980
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 2: he leaves but the bus. Yeah, he leaves us for

2981
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 2: like a.

2982
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,600
Speaker 3: Week a week every year ago film for his camp.

2983
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn that's cool.

2984
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 3: But anything else?

2985
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: What do you y'all? Play golf?

2986
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 3: I like to try. I like to smoke cigars and

2987
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 3: play music and have a good time.

2988
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just open bar at the golf course basically,

2989
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 4: So you guys gotta come play playing the golf tournament.

2990
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 3: This year you have golf tournament.

2991
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Knoxville. Guess what you're saying, Chase Rice, Chase

2992
02:03:16,680 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 1: Rice Horney, Chase Rice came he played at last year?

2993
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: Was the first year?

2994
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 3: Chase.

2995
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll gotta pull it. This year's fine. Where is it?

2996
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 4: It's that Tennessee National just rights out of Knoxville, like

2997
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,440
Speaker 4: on the weekend of the spring game. So all the

2998
02:03:28,720 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 4: all the VFL's come back and playing it.

2999
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 3: What weekend is that?

3000
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 1: It is the weekend? It with April, third week in April.

3001
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: That's a busy time for the boys and the bus.

3002
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,320
Speaker 3: We're doing a little spring tour.

3003
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, we could do knox Well, were we doing Knoxville again?

3004
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't think we were. I don't know we could

3005
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: make that way.

3006
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 2: We don't want to give anybody out their hope that

3007
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 2: we could be rolling through Knoxville again.

3008
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 3: We're trying to put together a fun little spring tour.

3009
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're around, just let me know. I don't

3010
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: really golf, but I'll go yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I

3011
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: have Thomas doesn't golf. Bruise with the boys. Yeah, hopefully

3012
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 1: Chase is there. Hit them back, Yeah, Chase, that won't

3013
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 1: play a game, Chasing. We ask all our questions, is

3014
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: there anything any questions from Jack Tennessee fan, I mean

3015
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 1: we're I mean anything that you're a fan, none of

3016
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 1: a friend. Right right there, the most memorable moment as

3017
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:21,600
Speaker 1: a as a volunteer, I.

3018
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,760
Speaker 6: Wanted him to walk through the most iconic play from

3019
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 6: his career at Tennessee, which was the Georgia Hail Mary.

3020
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 6: Fans it was it was like, not just to play

3021
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 6: it so for the game, but we had a string

3022
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 6: of weeks where we was at the first time, we

3023
02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 6: beat Florida, the week before Crazy game, came back, went

3024
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 6: against Florida, and then the Hail Mary that Josh threw to.

3025
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah you want I don't know. I thought that was cool,

3026
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 1: but that's not really necessarily a question. You did it.

3027
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: You just did it, not up finished a question mark

3028
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: at the end of that.

3029
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 6: How monumental was that for not only your college career

3030
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 6: but confidence moving forward going into the NFL.

3031
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, that was a good weight to round that all one.

3032
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 1: That was good. It was nice. That's the best question today,

3033
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: snaps Jack. Yeah, no, it was live.

3034
02:05:11,040 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 4: So like so, I grew up in Alfred of Georgia,

3035
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 4: so just sou south of Atlanta. I wasn't really recruited

3036
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:19,160
Speaker 4: by Georgia, but I never want to go to Georgia.

3037
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:21,480
Speaker 4: But I just had beef because I never really liked Georgia.

3038
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 4: So like senior year on the road at Georgia, we're

3039
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 4: like going back and forth the whole game. But then

3040
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 4: they you're like, oh, I don't want to lose to Georgia.

3041
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 4: Like a beat them last year. We got a beat

3042
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 4: on again and they threw like a hell mary ish

3043
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 4: play like right before it. So there's like fifteen seconds left,

3044
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 4: they just bring their last time out. I was really

3045
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 4: standing next to Malone. They're on like the forty seven

3046
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 4: yard line, but they have to score a touchdown, and

3047
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 4: Malone are like, oh, yeah, we won. Like we're like

3048
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 4: we're about to get on the about to get on

3049
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 4: the plane, get back to Knoxville.

3050
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: It's live.

3051
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 4: We just won at Georgia. And then the next play

3052
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 4: they throw a whole shot down down the sideline. Dude

3053
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 4: catches it in a straight and we already look at

3054
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 4: each other like no, oh way. So they score with

3055
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 4: how much time left? There's eleven seconds left on the clock.

3056
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:09,920
Speaker 4: Oh shit, But listen to the dude from their sideline

3057
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 4: runs on the field, no helmet, fifteen yard penalty, and

3058
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:14,280
Speaker 4: he's actually he's from Nashville.

3059
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:15,839
Speaker 1: That's what it was funny. He wanted to go to Tennessee.

3060
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 1: Think uh.

3061
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 4: He ran on the field fifteen yard penalty. So backed

3062
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 4: him up. And so we had the best returner in

3063
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 4: the nation that year, Evan Barry. So they had to

3064
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 4: kick it. They had to kick on the ball. They

3065
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 4: would just kick out the back the end zone. We'd

3066
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 4: be running hooking ladder and just praying. They had to

3067
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 4: kick it to him.

3068
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:32,960
Speaker 1: He catches it. They tried to like pooch kick it.

3069
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 4: He catches it on the thirty he runs right, We're like,

3070
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,600
Speaker 4: all right, keep going, keep going. He runs, he runs,

3071
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 4: He looks at the clock, runs out of bounds at

3072
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 4: their forty six yard line with four seconds left on

3073
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 4: the clock. And so before that we're like, are we

3074
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 4: gonna do hooking ladder or we're gonna throw hell Mary.

3075
02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 4: So we get to that yard line, We're like, all right,

3076
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 4: we can throw hell Mary.

3077
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: So we get on the.

3078
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 4: Field, line up, call time out, come to the sideline,

3079
02:06:55,680 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 4: get back on the field. And then they rushed three

3080
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 4: and I was like, make sure you don't take a sack,

3081
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 4: make sure you don't throw it.

3082
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 1: Out of the back of the end zone.

3083
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Pepper this checkdown four seconds.

3084
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:17,120
Speaker 1: He was waiting for that. The whole story, the whole story.

3085
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 2: I thought of it once you said don't take a sack.

3086
02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, he's going there, and then you can smile.

3087
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, oh.

3088
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Ship, yeah, we'll get him. I'm go get him. Yeah,

3089
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 1: that was a good one.

3090
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 4: Rub it in my face, kicking, walk down, check down, No,

3091
02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 4: through it, through it to Juwana.

3092
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 5: He he did the harp to a bomb and when

3093
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 5: he caught it, so you're like, it's fucking up. You're

3094
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 5: probably when he caught it is the plays the play.

3095
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 4: So when he caught it, I remember seeing him like

3096
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 4: catch it right here, and then it was like all

3097
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 4: hell brokeless.

3098
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 1: God so cool.

3099
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 4: I was at Georgia, so that was what was so

3100
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 4: cool about it because you could literally hear a pin

3101
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,120
Speaker 4: drop and then they pull all the Tennessee fans like

3102
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 4: up in the rafters at the top of the stadium

3103
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 4: and it's just like they're just going crazy. The band

3104
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 4: is like at the top of the stadium to playing

3105
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,680
Speaker 4: Rocky Top and then like sea of red silence.

3106
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 3: That's fucking cool. Tennessee does have one of the best

3107
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 3: fan bases. They really do.

3108
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaker 1: They roll so deep they do what a bomb too?

3109
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:21,600
Speaker 2: No, you know, everybody in the defense, everybody fucking jumping

3110
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 2: for the ball and ship they know that defensive coaches.

3111
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 6: I was trying to find the play that set it up,

3112
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 6: because literally Georgia threw like a forty yard bomb with

3113
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 6: twelve seconds prior to this play too.

3114
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 1: We were up four points for them and they were

3115
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 1: gonna win.

3116
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 6: And they were they basically just beat us, and everyone's.

3117
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 4: Like, no fucking we're four and zero undefeated, and they

3118
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 4: threw it, and uh, I forget who said it. Some

3119
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 4: one goes and they about to party their butts off tonight.

3120
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 4: It was like electric in the stadium. It got rowdy,

3121
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:56,480
Speaker 4: but then we were able to come back and the coach.

3122
02:08:57,080 --> 02:09:01,120
Speaker 1: Shones, where's he at now? He's at Arkansas State? Mm

3123
02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:06,040
Speaker 1: hm oh damn, that's tough. Yeah, good dude, good dude, Yeah, really,

3124
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: good dude.

3125
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 3: You played with some good players there.

3126
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like tomor is the most underutilized college

3127
02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: football player of all time. Yeah, but like we had

3128
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,680
Speaker 1: Jalen heard too, most underutilized college football player of all time.

3129
02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 1: You see what he's doing in the league. He's going crazy.

3130
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 1: You got think we got Jalen heard too.

3131
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 4: Jalen heard it was a thousand yard rusher as a

3132
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 4: freshman and sophomore. And then Alvin got there too, so

3133
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 4: and then once Jalen got hurt, Alvin obviously started going off.

3134
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 4: But like he was already going off. He just like

3135
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 4: we would get the ball the Jalen a little bit

3136
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:42,600
Speaker 4: more than we gave it to Alvin. So, I mean, obviously,

3137
02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 4: at hindsight, like, man, this dude's amazing. He's like one

3138
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 4: of the best running backs in the league. I wish

3139
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:51,160
Speaker 4: we could have used them more in college, but like

3140
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 4: at the time, he thought we were utilizing people the

3141
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 4: best we could.

3142
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:55,960
Speaker 1: You know, Damn.

3143
02:09:56,120 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking, I'm like, fuck, I don't want to

3144
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 3: keep on here that much longer. But I am serious.

3145
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:03,040
Speaker 2: There's a few there's a couple of players that I'm

3146
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 2: thinking of that you play with on the Steelers, the

3147
02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 2: Pouncy So I've heard nothing but like insane things about

3148
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:13,480
Speaker 2: the way he is as a leader. And also it

3149
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 2: seems like you got to play with Antonio Brown.

3150
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:15,640
Speaker 3: I would love to.

3151
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think of a b like playing with

3152
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:21,560
Speaker 2: them on the on the the black and yellow sucking gold.

3153
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to butcher Pittsburgh Nation. Yeah, black and

3154
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 2: yellow like yellow.

3155
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:31,560
Speaker 1: Oh. I just got a text from Dennis Kelly. Todd

3156
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:35,879
Speaker 1: Downing and Keith Carter were fired. I even't seen anything,

3157
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:40,360
Speaker 1: so that might be that might be breaking information, but

3158
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 1: that was from That was from Dennis Kelly.

3159
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, it feels from Dennis, and that means

3160
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:48,560
Speaker 2: it's probably out Carter, the old line coach.

3161
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Wow, the reaction, my reaction.

3162
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 2: Keith Carter and Todd Downing just got fired real time.

3163
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 2: We just saw right now. What's your reaction to that.

3164
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that we got a

3165
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 1: video Oh my phone, my phone's out there, coach, that's

3166
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: his name? Not and then Keith Carter and Todd Downing.

3167
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh I re Fraser did? Rob Moore is still there?

3168
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Rob is going anywhere either. What an

3169
02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:41,760
Speaker 1: interesting I mean, first initial thought, I know you're literally

3170
02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 1: on the spot. I know I'm without any time to

3171
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 1: register any of that information. I think Todd is an

3172
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: incredibly good person. He's like awesome to be around, and

3173
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. You kind of could tell like,

3174
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 1: obviously the whole season, everyone's calling for his head, like

3175
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: that riding was on the wall. There was a moment

3176
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: when I went out to a walk and I think

3177
02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:00,760
Speaker 1: it was right before you got there. I was literally

3178
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 1: in a poncho and Todd. Todd was like, oh, you

3179
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:05,920
Speaker 1: playing tight end. I was like, ye, I'm gonna play

3180
02:12:05,960 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: tight end next next year for you, and he goes, oh,

3181
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: you go into and he recited some random high school

3182
02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 1: football team like he I think Todd knew he was

3183
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,240
Speaker 1: going to be fired. I think so, I'm really I

3184
02:12:16,480 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Hart goes out to him, good family man,

3185
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 1: good dude. Obviously a bad situation. After the Packers game, Uh, Keith,

3186
02:12:24,880 --> 02:12:27,720
Speaker 1: he's been there. Keith's been there, Yeah for like five years.

3187
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 3: Five years.

3188
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Keith and I have had a very up

3189
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 1: and down relationship, and I think it's ended at a

3190
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 1: much higher point. But damn. I think like when Keith

3191
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,480
Speaker 1: first got there, he the way he came in and

3192
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 1: the way he was trying to act towards everybody, like

3193
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 1: very disrespectful, very very authoritative, but like in a very

3194
02:12:48,640 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 1: like dictatorship type of way. Keith grew every single year

3195
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 1: and he he did live on the old line with

3196
02:12:56,160 --> 02:12:58,520
Speaker 1: impossible standards. That was kind of like one of those

3197
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:00,200
Speaker 1: things you know, football is how it gets kind of

3198
02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 1: toxic sometimes, like it's never good enough. You think you

3199
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 1: do well, but all of a suden there's one or

3200
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 1: two plays you want back and sometimes you just want

3201
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 1: to pat on the back and you never truly get that.

3202
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 1: I think Keith's a good I think Keith is a

3203
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 1: good offensive line coach that was stricken by injuries. Me Ben,

3204
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 1: Nate Brewer was hurt this year, and Nick missed a

3205
02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:20,600
Speaker 1: couple of games. That's all five starting guys were hurt,

3206
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:23,839
Speaker 1: So that's not necessarily Keith Carter's fault. I think he'll

3207
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 1: be able to get a job in the NFL again.

3208
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:34,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think yeah. I mean, I don't want

3209
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:37,760
Speaker 1: to say like anything disrespectful, right because I think he's

3210
02:13:37,800 --> 02:13:39,920
Speaker 1: a good dude, and I think like he his his

3211
02:13:40,080 --> 02:13:42,560
Speaker 1: nice friendship. Friendship is a very loose term, but our

3212
02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 1: business relationship got a whole lot better from the first

3213
02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:50,360
Speaker 1: time he was in to now. I just wish he

3214
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:53,360
Speaker 1: focused a little bit more on taking care of the

3215
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:55,760
Speaker 1: older players. I think Ben got a little more of

3216
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 1: that towards the end, and then I kind of did

3217
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 1: this year. But this is those practices are hard, and

3218
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:03,600
Speaker 1: they were in your body and there where your tires

3219
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:05,480
Speaker 1: are really fast, and you could see it towards the

3220
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 1: end of the season sometimes. But I think I think

3221
02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 1: Keith's gonna get another job. I think he's did. He

3222
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:12,920
Speaker 1: does a great job. I don't know coach Midgett at all.

3223
02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 1: I passed him. The hallway knocks every once in a while,

3224
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:16,840
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what it is. I hope it

3225
02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 1: works out for him. But damn, that's crazy.

3226
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's happening Black Monday, Monday.

3227
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think. I didn't think they'd be fired

3228
02:14:25,160 --> 02:14:27,000
Speaker 1: till later. I didn't think he. I didn't not think

3229
02:14:27,080 --> 02:14:32,080
Speaker 1: Keith was gonna get fired. Damn, are we sure it's

3230
02:14:32,120 --> 02:14:35,880
Speaker 1: Keith Carter? You see that Blake Korn's coming back? Yeah?

3231
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:36,200
Speaker 3: I did.

3232
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 2: Oh, I meant to put a tweet out there, like, Bro,

3233
02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 2: you've there's only so much shred on the tire in

3234
02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:44,680
Speaker 2: the NFL. You gotta go leave this conference. Bigger things ahead, brother,

3235
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 2: No need to come back to Michigan. Yes, Nebras will

3236
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 2: take care of it for you.

3237
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 1: Three time Big Ten champions coming up Josh's final Hang on,

3238
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 1: don't don't even.

3239
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 3: Bring that out.

3240
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,160
Speaker 2: He was talking about it. He was talking about it before.

3241
02:14:57,360 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 2: He was talking about it before that news came out.

3242
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:02,160
Speaker 2: He's talking about a couple of his teammates from the Steelers.

3243
02:15:02,240 --> 02:15:02,720
Speaker 2: Let him talk.

3244
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I just want to know about

3245
02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:10,640
Speaker 1: Josh's last game. Is of all the Nebraska game? Yeah,

3246
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:16,520
Speaker 1: well a twenty eight I believe, just thirty. It wasn't

3247
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:18,520
Speaker 1: that close. Close game, wasn't.

3248
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 3: Was the score? You said ten points and we were

3249
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:23,320
Speaker 3: talking about two possessions.

3250
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 4: And they scored like with like two minutes left in

3251
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 4: the game, and then we took a knee move him

3252
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:33,600
Speaker 4: a lower doing handshakes in the locker room. What year

3253
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:35,720
Speaker 4: was that, twenty twenty sixteen?

3254
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen.

3255
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 3: Mike Riley is the head coach, right, it was Riley?

3256
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's part of the Mike Riley or

3257
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:46,200
Speaker 2: like that's hey, sick jack, you beat Mike Riley.

3258
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 1: I didn't beat anyone.

3259
02:15:51,840 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 3: We always have just the of a clearly healthy rivalries

3260
02:15:55,520 --> 02:15:56,320
Speaker 3: in college football.

3261
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 1: We have the most historic riper leagu in college football.

3262
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 1: If everybody busting trophy bust and bowl.

3263
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:02,200
Speaker 3: Did you see that?

3264
02:16:03,160 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 1: No, what's that So you didn't see it? Oh wow,

3265
02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 1: I thought you watched, so you don't follow at all? Yeah,

3266
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 1: he's an honorable mention washer dude. Uh yeah. Every year

3267
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,240
Speaker 1: Michigan Nebraska they play for the bust And Bowl.

3268
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 3: There's a trophy we got made.

3269
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, sitting in Michigan's trophy room right now along with

3270
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 1: Paul Bunny and along with the brown jug for those

3271
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 1: of you want to when do y'all start bathing trophy

3272
02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:28,960
Speaker 1: championship year? This was the first year.

3273
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:29,520
Speaker 3: First year that.

3274
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we kind of just brushed over those guys

3275
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 1: getting fired. Well like what you know, we know, what

3276
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:38,640
Speaker 1: do you really say? I don't know. I just feel bad.

3277
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:43,080
Speaker 6: I feel like everyone was just waiting for that one.

3278
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was coming to day, like what.

3279
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:48,520
Speaker 2: Kind of what kind of what kind of like what

3280
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:50,960
Speaker 2: kind of homage are we wanting to? We want to

3281
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:53,240
Speaker 2: spend time on it, like are you somebody a question

3282
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:53,520
Speaker 2: after you?

3283
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:55,360
Speaker 1: No? No, no no. I just kind of spoke and

3284
02:16:55,440 --> 02:16:57,920
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like disrespectful, And now I'm

3285
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 1: I kind of re thinking about what I said. Yeah,

3286
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 1: it was disrespectful, but I was also like you also

3287
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:06,400
Speaker 1: got to cover all basis tho are human beings with families,

3288
02:17:06,400 --> 02:17:07,480
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that I'm not like

3289
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:10,440
Speaker 1: being rude, right, But yeah, okay, so we can move on.

3290
02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 1: We can absolutely move on from that. And you're go ahead.

3291
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 2: This is just such a good pop. And I'm thinking

3292
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 2: of the two hour mark right now. I don't know

3293
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:18,160
Speaker 2: how you're feeling about it.

3294
02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:19,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good, I'm straight.

3295
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 3: Because now there's a few questions I want to ask.

3296
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:23,400
Speaker 2: I still want to talk to you about the teammates

3297
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:27,039
Speaker 2: getting play with Pounty and Antonio Brown, and I also

3298
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:31,080
Speaker 2: want to ask about your situation, like being in the

3299
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 2: headspace where you're at, being somebody that's been on IR

3300
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:38,080
Speaker 2: all year and you've talked openly about anticipating being cut

3301
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:40,959
Speaker 2: and everything else. Whether or not that happens, time will tell,

3302
02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:45,200
Speaker 2: But like, where has your headspace ends since? Because it's

3303
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 2: one thing knowing that, like, yo, this could be my

3304
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,520
Speaker 2: last year in Tennessee, I could probably get cut. Like

3305
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,920
Speaker 2: we're in the season. The minute the game ends on Saturday.

3306
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:55,920
Speaker 2: It's a different vibe because even even I don't even

3307
02:17:55,959 --> 02:17:57,879
Speaker 2: play and I fols, I'm like, damn, it's just over

3308
02:17:57,959 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 2: for the boys. Now.

3309
02:17:59,120 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 3: It's off season. Yeah, like it's definitely not more real.

3310
02:18:03,160 --> 02:18:04,960
Speaker 3: I feel like it's it's yeah, I had to have

3311
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 3: gotten more real.

3312
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:07,600
Speaker 1: It's gotten way more real for me because it's like

3313
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:10,160
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time, like me saying I'm

3314
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna get cut is like my weird like a subconscious

3315
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:16,360
Speaker 1: like egotistical way of being, like I know I'm gonna

3316
02:18:16,360 --> 02:18:18,240
Speaker 1: get got, And so I don't want people to think

3317
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:19,960
Speaker 1: like I'm just getting blindsided here, Like I know, like

3318
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:21,960
Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall for me, So I keep

3319
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:25,120
Speaker 1: vocalizing it one because it's that's kind of how I

3320
02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 1: process things, but also like in a weird way, it's

3321
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:30,000
Speaker 1: like me getting ahead of it, you know. And once

3322
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:35,640
Speaker 1: that game ended on that checkdown, I literally thought to myself, like, damn,

3323
02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:38,119
Speaker 1: it really is over, Like this is probably the last

3324
02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:40,520
Speaker 1: time I will ever be on you'll see the name

3325
02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 1: Taro Lawan on a Tendency Titan roster, even even though

3326
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:46,400
Speaker 1: it was on IR this year. And so that like definitely,

3327
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,560
Speaker 1: like Saturday, I told you, I like I saw a tailoring.

3328
02:18:49,959 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 1: Like after the game, I was like, Hey, we don't

3329
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:54,360
Speaker 1: talk about this now, but I feel weird right now.

3330
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:57,960
Speaker 1: I do feel I feel like, uh, not like I

3331
02:18:58,000 --> 02:18:59,880
Speaker 1: would say emotion. I think emotion is going to come

3332
02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:02,240
Speaker 1: when that time happens. And I had a conversation with

3333
02:19:02,360 --> 02:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Cowden today and I walked in his office. I

3334
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 1: love Ryan. I think Ryan's a great dude. I have

3335
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,200
Speaker 1: no idea how good of a GM he would be.

3336
02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:13,920
Speaker 1: John warm there. I think there's nothing he could have

3337
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:16,440
Speaker 1: shown in these last seven weeks being the gym. It's

3338
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:18,440
Speaker 1: kind of like you bring he brought you in, did

3339
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:21,360
Speaker 1: a great job, you know, like that's that's huge, But like,

3340
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:23,200
Speaker 1: where are they going? What's their process? I hope he

3341
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:25,000
Speaker 1: does get the job because the person he is and

3342
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 1: I know he does things a little bit differently. But

3343
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,240
Speaker 1: I walked into his office and I was like, I

3344
02:19:29,440 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 1: know because I've gained a relationship with him. I was like,

3345
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:33,120
Speaker 1: I know you're going to cut me. And I know

3346
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:35,960
Speaker 1: you're that's going to happen. And just know when you

3347
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:37,879
Speaker 1: make that phone call and it's going to be difficult

3348
02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:40,200
Speaker 1: for you to pick up that phone because of our relationship. No,

3349
02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take this personally. I understand the

3350
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:43,880
Speaker 1: business and I'm not going to think this is you

3351
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:45,800
Speaker 1: cutting me. I think this is the Tennessee Titans cutting me,

3352
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:48,520
Speaker 1: and we had a fantastic, like fifteen twenty minute long

3353
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:52,280
Speaker 1: conversation about other things too, But it is just a

3354
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:55,920
Speaker 1: it's just wild, like I've never like I've never been

3355
02:19:55,959 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 1: cut before and I've never like had to feel that.

3356
02:19:59,320 --> 02:20:02,959
Speaker 1: And I know, sitting in the team room with Rabel,

3357
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,440
Speaker 1: he always talks about guys like, oh, so and so,

3358
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:06,880
Speaker 1: how many times have you been cutting? They're like, h

3359
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:09,720
Speaker 1: seven and other guys are like ten or whatever, and

3360
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:11,840
Speaker 1: then they find they're home somewhere and then you're like, damn,

3361
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:13,680
Speaker 1: this person's been cut that many times. They've traveled on

3362
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:16,360
Speaker 1: a suitcase, like you're saying, like you're a nomad, and

3363
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:20,040
Speaker 1: so now I'm thinking like damn, Like everyone gets got

3364
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:21,879
Speaker 1: and when you're in the position I am, you think

3365
02:20:21,959 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna get got. But here I am in

3366
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,280
Speaker 1: the in plain sight with the sights on me, knowing

3367
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:32,080
Speaker 1: that like it's it's probably ninety five percent going to happen,

3368
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 1: and so it sucks, but it's also completely understandable, and

3369
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 1: well we talked about before, there's there's arguments I could

3370
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:42,480
Speaker 1: sit here and be like okay, I could be be

3371
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:45,080
Speaker 1: back at the times because of these things like these

3372
02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 1: are the pros and but like if I were to,

3373
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 1: like if I was a GM and I'm looking at

3374
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:56,080
Speaker 1: Taylor Law, i would think upside is solid. The downside

3375
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:57,880
Speaker 1: is two acls and three years, Like, how do you

3376
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 1: unless I were to come back and we would renegotiate

3377
02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 1: where I'm playing for way less money, Like there's no

3378
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:08,680
Speaker 1: way I'm on that roster again. So it's just different.

3379
02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:11,320
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to think about being in that building.

3380
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Today was really weird being that team meeting for the

3381
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:16,040
Speaker 1: first time since week two? Right? Is it just a

3382
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:16,760
Speaker 1: weird feeling.

3383
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,880
Speaker 3: Interesting too, because you've been out of it since week two?

3384
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:21,320
Speaker 2: Right, And you can even feel yourself you said it earlier,

3385
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:24,040
Speaker 2: like I've been more you lean into like becoming more

3386
02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:25,400
Speaker 2: of a fan because you're just not in the daily

3387
02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:27,880
Speaker 2: routine with the boys, so you feel separated. But the

3388
02:21:27,959 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 2: minute that game ends, for whatever reason, it feels so

3389
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 2: much more finite, like right now it's just in real time.

3390
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:36,920
Speaker 2: Coaches are getting fired, Like it just sucks because you

3391
02:21:37,080 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 2: build such like a pack mentality all year long about

3392
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 2: the aspiracious the goals were going to achieve together, and

3393
02:21:43,480 --> 02:21:46,040
Speaker 2: then the minute it ends, whether anybody likes it or not,

3394
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 2: you have to come in the next morning with a

3395
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,959
Speaker 2: business hat on and start acting people.

3396
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:54,600
Speaker 3: That's just like the nature of the business, which sucks,

3397
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:55,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

3398
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 2: And you know, like all this transition happening that last

3399
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:01,680
Speaker 2: year and the culture and the team and the core

3400
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:03,560
Speaker 2: guys that they've had the last few years, whether or

3401
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:05,680
Speaker 2: not that all states in tags, but either way, it's like, damn,

3402
02:22:05,680 --> 02:22:08,560
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a way different looking team. Say,

3403
02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 2: once you get removed from college for a few years

3404
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:12,240
Speaker 2: and you don't even know anybody in the locker room anymore.

3405
02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 1: That's fourth yearer in the league. You're like, damn, I

3406
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know anybodymore.

3407
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:16,320
Speaker 2: You're like, man, I don't even really have a pulse

3408
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:19,400
Speaker 2: well on this team anymore. And so it's like it

3409
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:22,440
Speaker 2: has to move on without you, which is like, yeah,

3410
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:25,320
Speaker 2: that's the nature of the game. But it's like acknowledging that,

3411
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:29,040
Speaker 2: like when that when that last play happened, It's like

3412
02:22:29,480 --> 02:22:31,160
Speaker 2: we were sitting there talking about it in real time.

3413
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 3: It's like, man, it just sucks that the boys, like

3414
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:34,680
Speaker 3: tomorrow's gonna be that trash back.

3415
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,800
Speaker 1: Day or by the Scottish that's the worst of Taylor's.

3416
02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 3: Face a little bit.

3417
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, if I'm feeling stuff, I can only imagine,

3418
02:22:39,760 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 2: like I'm sure he's feeling I'm sure he's feeling that

3419
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:43,480
Speaker 2: shit too, whether or not. You've been on IR all years.

3420
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:46,280
Speaker 2: So like, damn, this year, this page is actually gonna

3421
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 2: have to actually turn now. Vers talking about it all

3422
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:51,440
Speaker 2: year long and anticipating it.

3423
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. It is fucking it's hard. It's a

3424
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:00,960
Speaker 1: hard thing to think about because like, my whole life

3425
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:05,000
Speaker 1: has been playing football and lucky enough being really good

3426
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:07,480
Speaker 1: at playing football. And now I'm looking, I'm thirty one.

3427
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 2: Obviously high school you dipped on your bad the shitty

3428
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:12,800
Speaker 2: team went to the good team to get a championship

3429
02:23:12,840 --> 02:23:13,040
Speaker 2: or two.

3430
02:23:13,160 --> 02:23:17,400
Speaker 3: I respect, but uh, university is like, yeah, you're a

3431
02:23:17,440 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 3: Michigan for four years.

3432
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3433
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:22,440
Speaker 2: NFL you've had, yeah, you've had You've had the ability

3434
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:24,600
Speaker 2: to stay on one team for nine yeah, nine year,

3435
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:25,040
Speaker 2: nine years.

3436
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's just crazy that it's like, oh, that's

3437
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 1: it's done. And I remember like being a rookie or

3438
02:23:31,400 --> 02:23:32,760
Speaker 1: like a second year or third year guy in the

3439
02:23:32,879 --> 02:23:36,000
Speaker 1: NFL and watching these old guys and them talking about

3440
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 1: how they like openly talking about how they're out of

3441
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:41,280
Speaker 1: the prime, and I'm like, damn, fuck those guys, Like

3442
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:43,640
Speaker 1: why are you talking like that? You don't even know,

3443
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:45,760
Speaker 1: Like that's never gonna come for me. You never think

3444
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,280
Speaker 1: like it's oh, now I'm thirty one, and it's like yeah,

3445
02:23:48,360 --> 02:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Like if you looked at me on paper, like my

3446
02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:52,520
Speaker 1: prime has passed me, I could sit here and pretend like, nah,

3447
02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still him. I could still do this, but

3448
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:58,920
Speaker 1: like that part of it might be over and like

3449
02:23:58,959 --> 02:24:00,960
Speaker 1: who knows. Like let's say I did want to go

3450
02:24:01,000 --> 02:24:03,560
Speaker 1: play football again, I would have to sit there and

3451
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:07,240
Speaker 1: be like, hey, what are the logical expectations I need

3452
02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:09,320
Speaker 1: to have on myself for this season? Not only that,

3453
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 1: but what now I have to rego back into that

3454
02:24:11,879 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 1: headspace that you and I talk about all the time,

3455
02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 1: where there is the I found so much success in

3456
02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:20,920
Speaker 1: football because I railroad to people. I had like a

3457
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:23,160
Speaker 1: low key and narcissistic mentality like I have to get

3458
02:24:23,360 --> 02:24:24,960
Speaker 1: to where I need to go, and if anybody's in

3459
02:24:25,000 --> 02:24:27,120
Speaker 1: the way of that, they're just getting pushed aside. Emotions,

3460
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:29,200
Speaker 1: all of them are getting pushed to the side, and

3461
02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm going and now I get hurt and The thing

3462
02:24:33,120 --> 02:24:34,879
Speaker 1: that when I got hurt this year I didn't hurt

3463
02:24:34,959 --> 02:24:39,720
Speaker 1: is bad emotionally because last year off season twenty twenty one,

3464
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:42,360
Speaker 1: I literally did everything I could. I was working my diet,

3465
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:45,600
Speaker 1: My diet was on point, my conditioning was on point,

3466
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 1: my strength, like everything was on point. Like I was

3467
02:24:48,120 --> 02:24:50,480
Speaker 1: dialed the fuck in. You get hurt the second game

3468
02:24:50,520 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 1: of the season. It literally is one of those things

3469
02:24:52,560 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 1: where it's like I did everything I could during that journey,

3470
02:24:55,480 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 1: even though like the result is not what I wanted.

3471
02:24:57,560 --> 02:25:00,040
Speaker 1: So I literally separated myself way easier than I I

3472
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:03,760
Speaker 1: thought I would from feeling negative emotions while still working

3473
02:25:03,800 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 1: through them, Like I started feeling like happier, Like I

3474
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:10,200
Speaker 1: started realizing, oh, I don't have to act like this.

3475
02:25:10,280 --> 02:25:12,000
Speaker 1: I started doing like self work, being like how do

3476
02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:14,959
Speaker 1: I work on me so I don't have to feel

3477
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:17,240
Speaker 1: this resentment from this person or that person because of

3478
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:19,480
Speaker 1: how a railroad in the past trying to get to

3479
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:22,959
Speaker 1: the top of wherever I was. And now it's like, Okay,

3480
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:25,360
Speaker 1: if I want to go play football again, the only

3481
02:25:25,480 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 1: thing I know how to play football at a high

3482
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:29,520
Speaker 1: level is to go back into that mindset. But it's

3483
02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:31,360
Speaker 1: so difficult to do once you realize what you've been

3484
02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:34,480
Speaker 1: doing to people. You know what I'm saying, it's so much,

3485
02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 1: it's so difficult. That's why people like, it's hard for

3486
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,320
Speaker 1: people to understand what it takes to be a professional athlete,

3487
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:45,400
Speaker 1: a professional athlete alone, but an elite professional athlete, Like

3488
02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:48,800
Speaker 1: it's very you have to be so selfish and it's

3489
02:25:48,879 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 1: fucking it's hard, so not to like, I have to

3490
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:55,120
Speaker 1: go and reevaluate that because we literally I've I was telling, well,

3491
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm done. I don't know if

3492
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,080
Speaker 1: I want to play anymore. The second that game ended,

3493
02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:01,880
Speaker 1: then they took a knee. I was like, maybe I

3494
02:26:01,920 --> 02:26:04,360
Speaker 1: should do one more. Maybe I can. And then you

3495
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 1: start playing that fucking same game you've played in your

3496
02:26:06,680 --> 02:26:08,760
Speaker 1: head over and over again where it's like you could

3497
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,040
Speaker 1: come back and do X, Y and Z. What a comebackstory,

3498
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 1: And now you're rewriting that story in your head that

3499
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:16,959
Speaker 1: only you really know. Yeah, so I'm like, fuck, it's

3500
02:26:16,959 --> 02:26:18,680
Speaker 1: been a weird couple of days for me. It's been

3501
02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 1: a very weird couple of days. Like something, I gotta

3502
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:22,120
Speaker 1: sit with him, figure out.

3503
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Get any words of advice for the boy?

3504
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:25,959
Speaker 1: You got any advice from me.

3505
02:26:26,879 --> 02:26:28,440
Speaker 4: I mean, should take it one day at a time,

3506
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:31,640
Speaker 4: Like that's the bemaz thing. I feel like sometimes you

3507
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 4: get caught up in like that cliche, like you know,

3508
02:26:33,480 --> 02:26:35,000
Speaker 4: take it one day at a time, like one media

3509
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:38,400
Speaker 4: at time. Well, I mean it's literally real. It's like

3510
02:26:38,959 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 4: how you feel right now won't affect how you feel

3511
02:26:42,640 --> 02:26:45,480
Speaker 4: right now, like the emotions of the situation that the

3512
02:26:45,560 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 4: season ending, Like there's just a ton of emotions just

3513
02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 4: thrown right at you.

3514
02:26:49,760 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 1: But things like just taking time to just like chill,

3515
02:26:51,800 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 1: take it a day at a time.

3516
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 4: And then like personally, I know you're trying to figure

3517
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:57,880
Speaker 4: out like should am I gonna come back and play football?

3518
02:26:58,040 --> 02:27:01,480
Speaker 1: Just play ball? It's like I feel like, you know

3519
02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:03,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people ask me why.

3520
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,640
Speaker 4: When you just go like do engineering, you know what

3521
02:27:05,640 --> 02:27:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Like in six years, like you didn't get

3522
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:10,280
Speaker 4: your opportunity, are you just go do engineering? And like

3523
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 4: the biggest thing for me is like I played football

3524
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:14,320
Speaker 4: since I was five. I'm sure it's probably similar story

3525
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:16,840
Speaker 4: for you. And it's like the blessing that is to

3526
02:27:16,920 --> 02:27:19,080
Speaker 4: be a professional athlete and then to be at the top.

3527
02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 4: It's like as long as at least for me as

3528
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:23,600
Speaker 4: long as like I can do it, and the there's

3529
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 4: even an out of possibility that I can be a

3530
02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 4: professional athlete playing the game that I have loved since

3531
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:30,600
Speaker 4: I was five, I'll take it and run with it.

3532
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 4: So just like just putting that into perspective, like seeing

3533
02:27:34,600 --> 02:27:37,480
Speaker 4: all the emotions thrown at you, taking a breath, taking

3534
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:39,280
Speaker 4: a day at a time, and then going from there

3535
02:27:39,280 --> 02:27:41,360
Speaker 4: and then all right, I want to do this, and

3536
02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:43,480
Speaker 4: then working hard every single day at it. It's kind

3537
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:46,280
Speaker 4: of that's my mindset, and I know that's as you said,

3538
02:27:46,320 --> 02:27:49,920
Speaker 4: that's been your mindset. Just because you've recognized you're in

3539
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:52,520
Speaker 4: a different headspace doesn't mean you can't be that same

3540
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 4: player in a different headspace, yea.

3541
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,320
Speaker 2: Or it also doesn't mean too like me, Like again,

3542
02:27:57,360 --> 02:27:58,879
Speaker 2: I'm not like trying to speak for you or nothing

3543
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:01,480
Speaker 2: like that, but I'm saying, even for me, if you decide,

3544
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:03,720
Speaker 2: like one day you wake up and just decide, like, man,

3545
02:28:03,760 --> 02:28:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm not as interested, Like that's all obviously all right

3546
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:09,520
Speaker 2: too for sure. Yeah, I mean if you're yeah, because

3547
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 2: not always it's always a tough thing about getting out

3548
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,359
Speaker 2: of it is there's there's people like there were always,

3549
02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:17,360
Speaker 2: uh you know, like family members or people in your

3550
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:20,039
Speaker 2: close circle that you know they think like you need

3551
02:28:20,120 --> 02:28:22,320
Speaker 2: to be putting more focus in the football versus like

3552
02:28:22,520 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's like doing more of this

3553
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:26,200
Speaker 2: stuff like hey, why aren't you trying to be in

3554
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:28,360
Speaker 2: a training camp and stuff like that, And it's like

3555
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:32,520
Speaker 2: being okay with like releasing yourself of those expectations, you know,

3556
02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:33,039
Speaker 2: like that's like.

3557
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:36,000
Speaker 4: The hardest part, like the outside expectation, right, because you

3558
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:37,279
Speaker 4: said that to you said.

3559
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Too in the ending, your journey is obviously different, but

3560
02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:41,280
Speaker 2: the ending is like, you know, you could still be

3561
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 2: the same player in the same breath.

3562
02:28:43,600 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 3: But it's also good. It's also fine if you're.

3563
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:49,680
Speaker 4: Like not one tough, if you just if you, I mean,

3564
02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:52,360
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like you, each of us,

3565
02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 4: you know, we've earned I feel like the work we've

3566
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:56,600
Speaker 4: put in just in our craft, whether it's on the field,

3567
02:28:56,800 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 4: just in life, like earn the ability to be able

3568
02:28:58,959 --> 02:28:59,920
Speaker 4: to do whatever you want.

3569
02:29:00,160 --> 02:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Which is which is which is which is powerful?

3570
02:29:02,680 --> 02:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the majority doesn't get to do that.

3571
02:29:05,280 --> 02:29:07,560
Speaker 2: So even understanding that perspective that exactly we're in the

3572
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:09,959
Speaker 2: position to even get to choose what our path will be.

3573
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:17,720
Speaker 1: It is aweful. Yeah, yeah, it is is fucking It's

3574
02:29:17,720 --> 02:29:20,840
Speaker 1: an interesting predicament to be in because I don't know

3575
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:23,000
Speaker 1: you guys, but I'm sure this conversation happened in the

3576
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:24,280
Speaker 1: locker room all the time where it's like how many

3577
02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:26,000
Speaker 1: years do you want to play in the NFL? And

3578
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:30,080
Speaker 1: my answer for that day, yeah, yeah, how long you

3579
02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:34,720
Speaker 1: want to do yeah? And like the majority people will

3580
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:37,560
Speaker 1: say ten I never said ten hours, said this cliche line.

3581
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:38,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play football till I win.

3582
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:41,280
Speaker 1: And it was not like win a super Bowl whatever,

3583
02:29:41,440 --> 02:29:44,240
Speaker 1: just feel like whatever. Basically it was like fulfillment. Like

3584
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:46,880
Speaker 1: if I feel like I've won the game of football,

3585
02:29:46,920 --> 02:29:48,440
Speaker 1: where like I've done what I needed to do in

3586
02:29:48,520 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 1: this game to leave an impression that I'm proud of,

3587
02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:54,240
Speaker 1: then I am. I'm good. And if I said about it,

3588
02:29:54,280 --> 02:29:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm like I've done that. I've I've I've conquered individual

3589
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:01,800
Speaker 1: accolades to the highest degree. I've we talked about this

3590
02:30:01,959 --> 02:30:04,280
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I was a part of team a

3591
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:07,000
Speaker 1: team that was awful two and fourteen, three and thirteen

3592
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:10,160
Speaker 1: the next year and was a massive part after seeing

3593
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:13,120
Speaker 1: so much turnover in the locker room being a foundational

3594
02:30:13,160 --> 02:30:15,760
Speaker 1: piece and changing a culture on a franchise like I take.

3595
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I take so much parte in that. And so now

3596
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:21,959
Speaker 1: it's like, what are my whys to go play football?

3597
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Because if it's if it's for money, I'm out, Like

3598
02:30:24,440 --> 02:30:27,400
Speaker 1: there's I will not play football just to I've made it.

3599
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:29,879
Speaker 1: I've made money. I am I'm gonna be all right.

3600
02:30:30,560 --> 02:30:33,760
Speaker 1: But it's now it's like a long like obviously if

3601
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play somewhere, I have to be I

3602
02:30:35,879 --> 02:30:37,879
Speaker 1: have to make I have to make money that I'm worth.

3603
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:41,080
Speaker 1: But there has to be another fighting urge, whether it's

3604
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:44,760
Speaker 1: I need another year, I like, I don't know. I

3605
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know urge at the moment. Right now, I do

3606
02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Right now, I do a little bit. I have a

3607
02:30:51,520 --> 02:30:54,120
Speaker 1: it's tough. I'm loyal to the soil, like I. I

3608
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:56,120
Speaker 1: literally came back from my fifth year at Michigan when

3609
02:30:56,120 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 1: I could have been a top ten pick the year before,

3610
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:00,480
Speaker 1: like an idiot, because I thought we're gonna wan to

3611
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:02,240
Speaker 1: make the championship and I wanted to bring greatness back

3612
02:31:02,280 --> 02:31:04,959
Speaker 1: to Michigan. We were like we were in the Buffalo

3613
02:31:05,040 --> 02:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Wowings Bowl my senior year. We lost in the state

3614
02:31:08,920 --> 02:31:10,880
Speaker 1: like forty four to ten. No, you were fucking terrible.

3615
02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:13,240
Speaker 1: And if if I just sat there logically and looked

3616
02:31:13,240 --> 02:31:14,520
Speaker 1: at the roster, I go, oh, we're not going to

3617
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:16,880
Speaker 1: be good next year. You should dip. But I'm just

3618
02:31:16,959 --> 02:31:19,880
Speaker 1: a loyal guy. So like the thought of me be

3619
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,080
Speaker 1: in a in a different uniform besides the Titans, like

3620
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:26,080
Speaker 1: that does not sit well with me, you know. But

3621
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:32,840
Speaker 1: also like watching the demise of Taylor Lawan, I sit

3622
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:34,720
Speaker 1: there and like, you know, do you want to be

3623
02:31:34,760 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 1: a guy on the Titans that just was good? Or

3624
02:31:37,160 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 1: can I still be good? And so if I truly

3625
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:42,320
Speaker 1: believe that my knees straight because nothing else in my

3626
02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:44,400
Speaker 1: body hurts, my fingers fucked up, my thumbs fucked up,

3627
02:31:44,440 --> 02:31:47,720
Speaker 1: but that they work. So if nothing else hurts, and

3628
02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 1: I know I can be a not maybe not as

3629
02:31:50,120 --> 02:31:51,800
Speaker 1: good as I used to be, but still a very

3630
02:31:52,400 --> 02:31:56,480
Speaker 1: above average football player, then I have still need to

3631
02:31:56,520 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 1: give to the Titans. Still, It's just about figuring out

3632
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:02,720
Speaker 1: what I truly want, because it it'd be ridiculous to

3633
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:04,080
Speaker 1: not sit here. I stay on this bus once a

3634
02:32:04,120 --> 02:32:06,040
Speaker 1: week with the boys, and we travel all around the

3635
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:09,320
Speaker 1: country and it's fucking awesome. This is so this is

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02:32:09,360 --> 02:32:11,720
Speaker 1: so much fun and it's doing well. I know you

3637
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:14,640
Speaker 1: don't watch, but you should. We gotta get numbers. I watch. Yeah,

3638
02:32:14,680 --> 02:32:17,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah you're three two or three cat,

3639
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:20,720
Speaker 1: But it's cool, man. It's just about it's just about

3640
02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:23,400
Speaker 1: evaluating that stuff. Yea, evaluating and finding out. But they

3641
02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:24,960
Speaker 1: taking one day at a time. I don't have to

3642
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:26,760
Speaker 1: make the decision right now. I just to keep gathering

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02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:28,680
Speaker 1: information so I can make the best decision for myself

3644
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:30,480
Speaker 1: and my family. Yeah, that's where we're at.

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02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you say the loyalty thing, but what about the

3646
02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:34,960
Speaker 2: first your first high school team?

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Speaker 3: What about those boys?

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02:32:36,680 --> 02:32:36,960
Speaker 5: That was not?

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02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that was and I only want a championship with

3650
02:32:39,760 --> 02:32:42,280
Speaker 1: that high school team. Sophomore year we won state fifteen.

3651
02:32:42,280 --> 02:32:45,040
Speaker 1: And oh so you do on the boys. Yeah, I

3652
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:48,680
Speaker 1: my dad made me transfer, forced me kicking and screaming

3653
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:51,520
Speaker 1: to transfer. Transferring high school is kind of like the

3654
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:54,120
Speaker 1: hardest thing to do. Yeah, O hard, dude. And my

3655
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:57,120
Speaker 1: boys I have, like I literally have ro Minrole six

3656
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Speaker 1: tattooed here and here for my boys the Sexy six

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02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:01,200
Speaker 1: or the dirty half does and wanted whichever one you

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02:33:01,240 --> 02:33:04,120
Speaker 1: want to choose. But like we were all a bunch

3659
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Speaker 1: of ugly focks too, like curly haired it's and ship

3660
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:08,800
Speaker 1: like it was just funny. But they like I left

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02:33:09,680 --> 02:33:12,480
Speaker 1: and there was one guy, Nick Bennett, who like came

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02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:15,680
Speaker 1: to the school my first day and like when I

3663
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:17,280
Speaker 1: noticed it with that lunch called me was like, hey,

3664
02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm in the parking lot. We had sub boy sandwich

3665
02:33:18,879 --> 02:33:20,360
Speaker 1: is waiting for me and we went and sat in

3666
02:33:20,360 --> 02:33:23,640
Speaker 1: the bleachers. But all the other boys basically like you're

3667
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:26,480
Speaker 1: a trader, like fuck you. Now obviously we've all had

3668
02:33:26,480 --> 02:33:30,480
Speaker 1: those conversations. Were all good, but it was fu because

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02:33:30,480 --> 02:33:33,560
Speaker 1: it was something I've We're all in a good place now,

3670
02:33:33,879 --> 02:33:37,720
Speaker 1: but we were legit, like I legit was forced to transfer. Now,

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02:33:37,720 --> 02:33:40,400
Speaker 1: it's the best decision ever happened. Like I played one

3672
02:33:40,480 --> 02:33:42,160
Speaker 1: year off the line and was able to go to Michigan.

3673
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Speaker 1: So it was the best decision I ever made in

3674
02:33:45,360 --> 02:33:47,280
Speaker 1: my life. That wasn't even I didn't even make it.

3675
02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:50,920
Speaker 1: So it was a good deal. But loyal, you don't

3676
02:33:50,920 --> 02:33:54,680
Speaker 1: see any other buses. What I don't go in any

3677
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 1: other buses. I stay on this bus. Loyals of the soil,

3678
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,880
Speaker 1: loyal to the soil. I think two thirty four is

3679
02:34:01,160 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 1: a long time for a podcast.

3680
02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:04,119
Speaker 3: I do think it is. I'll ask my other questions

3681
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 3: off the when we get out of here. I'm sure.

3682
02:34:06,879 --> 02:34:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure the boys back there, they're probably like, fuck man, no,

3683
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:12,600
Speaker 3: not you guys like you. I'm talking about the guest,

3684
02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:14,840
Speaker 3: our guests. Oh yeah, I'm talking about our guests.

3685
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh, we're straight. We were going to go watch the

3686
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 1: national championship somewhere. Who do you think he's gonna win

3687
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:22,400
Speaker 1: the National Championship? Congratulations to the TCU horn Frogs.

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02:34:22,480 --> 02:34:25,280
Speaker 3: Your horn fox had no time. I hope say one

3689
02:34:25,360 --> 02:34:26,760
Speaker 3: by the time this comes out tomorrow.

3690
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:29,320
Speaker 1: My fucking finger kind of cocked out for a second.

3691
02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:29,959
Speaker 3: We got them.

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Speaker 1: I'm all for that. Yeah, fuck the bulldogs, dude. Heyn. Also,

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Speaker 1: we'd love to come to your school for a football Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'd love to come to the offense the dogs Dogs.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think they won the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: I think.

3707
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:11,080
Speaker 1: I think either Chiefs. I don't think I think the

3708
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:11,800
Speaker 1: Bills are good.

3709
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:14,160
Speaker 4: I don't like the offense is like, I don't think

3710
02:35:14,160 --> 02:35:17,120
Speaker 4: they're ask us just as the Chiefs are the Chiefs.

3711
02:35:18,040 --> 02:35:21,240
Speaker 4: Or I think the Chiefs are gonna win it. Try

3712
02:35:21,320 --> 02:35:26,039
Speaker 4: thinking the NFC, who could give a run? Eagles Eagles? Yeah,

3713
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:28,720
Speaker 4: but I feel like I feel like the Chiefs versus

3714
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:30,960
Speaker 4: the Eagles in the in the chance in in the

3715
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:33,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, like the Chiefs are gonna outscore them.

3716
02:35:34,320 --> 02:35:35,480
Speaker 3: I can't have the Chiefs win.

3717
02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like the Chiefs.

3718
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,240
Speaker 2: Well, I just I like to go from the hot

3719
02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:40,960
Speaker 2: take of saying they won't even make the playoffs and

3720
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Speaker 2: then watch.

3721
02:35:41,480 --> 02:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Them win Super Bowl.

3722
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Will can't take. I don't know if I can afford

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Speaker 1: that's a big All right, boys, Well, wait listen. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the bus. Short what's the word notice?

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Speaker 1: Short notice? That's outstanding. I really appreciate you coming on listening.

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