1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron, and you've got to really be careful with Chinese tires. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Are they built to the same standard? What's the success rate? 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: The car Doctor, They're cheap is dirt cheap? You buy 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: something cheap, you get what you buy. Welcome to the 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: in the garage. Orders are open, but I am here 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: to take your calls at eight five five five six 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, welcome, come on in, sit down, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: running in the car doctorate your service three days, all 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: ready to go and wide open, ready to take care 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: of your car. And it's problem here at eight five 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. The number again, 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero nine zero zero seven. That 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: number works sometimes it seems like that number works as 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: hard as the car Doctor, maybe harder. But that number 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: is there all the time because you can call eight 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: five five zero zero zero leave a message. If we're 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: not on the air, we've got a messaging service attached 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: to it. We will call you back and get you 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: in queue for the next live show, which are Saturday 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: afternoons two to four pm. And I say that because 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: some of you obviously podcast this radio show and take 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: it from different sources streaming and other places the internet, 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: and you know, different than a brick and mortar radio station. 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: And you can call that eight five five zero nine 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: zero number leave a message, or if you call during 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: show hours Saturdays two to four pm Eastern time, East 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Coast of the United States, and we can talk to 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: you live here on here. How is your week? I 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: don't know how my week was. It went by like 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: it was like, Wow, Look it's Friday. Wow, Look it's Saturday. 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: How did that happen? I was sitting at the Delhi 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and I've got a lot of things to talk about, 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: but I want to just bring this up real quick, 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: because I think Jimmy's right. I was at the Delhi 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: yesterday morning and Franklin Lakes where I go for the 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: for the Friday morning ritual, and there was seven or 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,559 Speaker 1: eight of us, the usual group of of of mechanics 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: and mechanic wannabes and just tired people in general. And 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: my friend Dirty Jim was sitting there and Jimmy said, 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: you don't talk about the road to nowhere anymore, do you? 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said the road. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, you know, And I had forgotten about 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: the road to nowhere, and I had forgotten what that represented. 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: And it's sort of stuck in my brain for the 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours because I think we all need 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: a road to nowhere. I had forgotten what this concept was. 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: And if you're new to this show and you don't 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: know what it is, feeling stressed, aggravated. A lot going on. 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: We got a big election coming up this week. Who 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: knows where or what it's gonna end up, how it's 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: gonna end up. I mean, good lord. They're talking things 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: in the paper. I was reading in the news today 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: that they're talking about people stocking up on survival food 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: because of the election, for fear of disruption to the 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: commerce system. So this thing has all of you wound 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: up really tight. Here's how you're gonna survive. Maybe this 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: is the road to nowhere. How to survive the election 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: Tuesday tip. Put down the cell phone, turn off the computer, 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: gather up your family and go get in the car. 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Go somewhere. Go take a ride, go see the sites, 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: do nothing, take an hour's ride to nowhere, go somewhere 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: for lunch, make it a destination, lunch or breakfast. We 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: still got half a weekend left, right. I remember them 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: as with my father as a kid, my father's trips 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: to know where we're called We're going to church to stand, 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: get in the car. I'm not sure where church to 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Stand was, but I just know it was very far away, 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and I remember as a little kid we never seemed 73 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: to get there, because I remember the conversation when my 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: father would talk to my mother when they got home 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: and she goes, well, where'd you go? I went to 76 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: get milk? Where was that chucha stand? She goes, oh, 77 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: that place again, And you know, you could tell that 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: there was a sense of hostility. Of course, when you're 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: seven years old, you kind of don't make that connection 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: until you're older and you realize she's made at him 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: because he's out gallivanting around with the kids to Pennsylvania 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: for milk on Sunday morning, and you know, but it's 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: it's it's that road to nowhere. I forgot how much 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed taking car trips. I forgot how much I 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: enjoyed cars, and maybe that's part of it in that sense, 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, that's why I like working on them, because 87 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: there is something about just getting in a car and 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: taking a ride going nowhere, no cell phone, no news on, 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: just talking to your family, just kind of oh yeah, 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: that was my kid's middle name, and the back seat 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: now I kind of remember who that is. I think 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that tomorrow. Actually, tomorrow to are 93 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be nice here in the Northeast. I think 94 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow I'm gonna take one of the last rides in 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: the hot Rod. It might be one of the first 96 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: rides for the hot Rod this season. I didn't get 97 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: it out a whole lot, but I think I'm going 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: to take a ride in the hot Rod. I thought 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: about this middle of the week. It would be a 100 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: great Sunday to go take a ride in a cruise 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: to nowhere and just kind of mind my p's and 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: queues in the afternoon and just kind of relaxing on 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: wine before Monday and it starts all over again, because 104 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: I know, come Tuesday, whoever wins this election, whatever happens 105 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, I'll be glad I had Sunday and Monday 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: before it to peace and quiet as much as I 107 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: could make before the chaos, and then you know what 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: hits the fan. So maybe this wasn't so much of 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: as an automotive opening, but I just wanted to give 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: you that piece of advice because listen, we're like family, 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: you and I. We talk about cars each and every week. 112 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: We we we we we sit down, we have this conversation, 113 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: how do we fix this? How do we fix that? 114 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: This week? I wanted to give you a tip on 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: how to fix you, all right, and I encourage you 116 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: to take it. And if you want to see something different, 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: just take a trip to no where. Maybe it could 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: even be at night. My kids tell me one of 119 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: their greatest childhood memories and that this is This came 120 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: up in the conversation two weeks ago. We were gathered 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: around the table and they're telling me, Hey, how come 122 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: do you remember when? And they started talking about there's 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: a local airport here called Teeterborough and you can go 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: to Teterborough Airport, Teterborough, New Jersey and sit at the 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: end of the runway off to the side, or at 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: least you could fifteen years ago, and we would go 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: down there and what was then the family station wagon 128 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: and we would watch the airplanes take off and they 129 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: would laugh and giggle and jump around and you know, 130 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: bounce over the seats. And it was the it was 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: the trip to Teterborough, the trip to nowhere that ended 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: up at the airport, and it was kind of fun 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: family stuff and there was no computers, there was no 134 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: media assaults, there was no yelling and screaming. No, maybe 135 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: that's what we all need to do, take trips to 136 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: nowhere and uh they could be part of it. Yes, Tom, 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: you have a comment, sir. You know, I'm just gonna say. 138 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: You can tell we're family here because you know, the 139 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: last time you took totally and if for a drive, 140 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I remember you pulled over, turned around and said, make 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: me stop this car again. Well, that's because you guys 142 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: weren't wearing your seat belts. We were wearing our car 143 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: doctor shirts. Well, by the way, a tip of the wrench, 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: uh today to uh Dennis up on Facebook. He's down 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. He's a car Doctor listener and I got 146 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: the post this morning. He's wearing his car doctor t 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: shirt and post there at the Facebook. He's down in 148 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: Knoxville or Nashville or something. He's just enjoying ribs and 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: he says, I had to show the locals who the 150 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: king of cars is. And uh, you're my guy, so 151 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Dennis, if you're out there listening today. 152 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, just some wild and crazy stuff. I want 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: to talk to you about a couple of things this 154 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: hour and maybe next hour. The repair of the week 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: this week was a real doozy. It was about a 156 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: nine cheap wrangler with a high idol problem that you 157 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: won't believe what the fixes. So we're gonna talk about that. 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: We've got some phone calls I see lined up in 159 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: the queue. I want to talk about some of the 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: things that went on in the shop this week. But 161 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: right now, let's pull over and take the pause. When 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: we come back, we can hit it hard and we'll 163 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: crank the garage doors wide. I'm running any in the 164 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, don't go away. I'm coming back right after this. 165 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back again in the Car Doctor. Here zero nine 166 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: zero zero, the Car Doctor phone number. Car Doctors Show 167 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: dot com is the website, along with podcast available for 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: download and streaming. Tune in, I heart iTunes, all the 169 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: good places, and Google Patch as well. Let's get over 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and talk to Peter Snape, New Hampshire, two thousand seven. 171 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: Subaru and some issues here. Peter, Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 172 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: How can I help? Heyron, good to talk to you. 173 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: You've Subaru outback, had the head gas gets done, of course, 174 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: about a hundred fifty thousand miles. I have had catalytic 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: converters done the whole bit, and I've had a sort 176 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: of a weird situation where I'm having, um, some overheating 177 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: issues where the coolant is backing up into the reservoir tank. Um, 178 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: and there's no leaks or anything like that. I did 179 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: a water pump, everything is nice and tight, but it's 180 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: backing up into the tank. And I think it may 181 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: be because I use some radio their ceiling when I 182 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: was having some leaking and um. Every periodically I have 183 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: to open up the radiator cap, put some some more 184 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: coolant into the radiator and it runs okay, and then 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: it backs up again into the into the reservoir. Then 186 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: it spills out over there. So I'm just I'm at 187 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: a complete loss. I haven't done compression test on the 188 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: cylinders to make sure that they're all okay, but the 189 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: engine has good tep to it, so I think that 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: there's anything there right are you? Are you consuming any coolant? Peter, Uh, 191 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: it is consuming coolant, but I think that's because it's 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: spilling out when it fills that reservoir attack to the top, 193 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: because it really does get up high. Did you happen 194 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: to or have you happened to replace the radiator cap 195 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: at any point? I have not. Okay, Um, get your 196 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: hands on. I'm gonna give you a bulletin number. There's 197 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: a bulletin from Subaru O eight Dish fifty two, Dish 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: O eight. That's that's pretty common. And what that talks 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: about is problems with the radiator cap itself. They talk 200 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: about the radiator cap pressure valve being stuck open or 201 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: and here's the ore, which is what jiggled my brain 202 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: when you said you put a cool and stealer in there, 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: debres getting sucked up into the tank hose and causing 204 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: a clog and affecting the cap as well. So I'm 205 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: wondering if you've got something as simple as a radiator 206 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: cap issue. That bulletin talks in detail, and it applies 207 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: to quite a few model your sub brus and it 208 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: talks about modifying the reservoir hose UH to a different length, 209 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: And there was a bunch of information there that describes 210 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: your problem to a t and some of the changes 211 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: they want UM with regard to the length of the 212 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: hose in the bottle as well as the camp itself. 213 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: So it could be something as simple as that, and 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: I would tell you, I would encourage you to go 215 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: through that before you get anything do anything any crazier um, 216 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, So that's number one. Obviously, you know you 217 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: want to make you sure you get yourself a good 218 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: radiator cap. Stand to be fine. Get out the stand 219 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: dot com you'll read more about. As a matter of fact, 220 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Stand has a good bunch of information about radiator cap 221 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: I never realized until about ten days ago. We were 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: doing something in the shop and we were looking at 223 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: a I believe it was a Chevy Malibu and we 224 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: were looking at d and the radiator cap on that 225 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: was giving us an issue. And I never really stopped 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: to look at how radiator caps are really complicated little critters. 227 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: You think they're so simple, but they're not. And there's 228 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: there's a lot of machining and there's a lot of 229 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: it's got to be the right tension spring and the 230 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: right fabrication and manufacturing in order for it to work right. 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: So just make sure if you put a radiator cap 232 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: on it, you get a good one number one, number two. 233 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: As long as I've got you on the phone, you're 234 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: up there in New Hampshire. Are you aware of the 235 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: probability possibility of brake line recall on that vehicle? Yes, 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I am. It's been off the road for about a 237 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: year now because of this problem. I've been I've been 238 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: thinking I'm going to take it all apart and see 239 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: what I come up with, because I do have some 240 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: cool air coming out of one side of my of 241 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: my heating vents it's cooler than the other air, and 242 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: thinking maybe there's something there that's not allowing it to 243 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: circulate all the way through well, and and listen, I'm 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: not a fan of of of steelers in the radio 245 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: in the cooling systems on su Bruse. For some reason, 246 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: Subarus do not like cooling system sealer Subaru makes and 247 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: let me let me let me modify that statement. Subaru 248 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: makes a specific sealer that they want you to use. 249 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: I can't get proof of it, but it sure looks 250 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: like bars leak. It sure smells like bars leak, but 251 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: it's in a private Subaru branded bottle and it makes 252 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: no reference to being bars leak. The stuff that's been 253 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: on the shelf for years and years and years. Um. 254 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: That that being said, UM, they want you to use 255 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: it in judicious amounts, and you know, not necessarily the 256 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: whole bottle at each service whenever you you know, whenever 257 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: you change the cool on a Subaru, they want a 258 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: bottle of this to go in. So you know, depending 259 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: upon what you used, yes, you may have created an issue, 260 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: in which case probably the first thing I would do 261 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: is just try doing a mild reverse flush on the 262 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: heater core. You know. Hook up, Um, you got access 263 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: to a five gallon white bucket and two pieces of 264 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: heater hose, you know, and and you know I made 265 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: up one. I've used it in the shop for years 266 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: where I went to the hardware store picked up a 267 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: hose end so I can with a direct coupling, you know, 268 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: a garden hose into it and just backflush the core 269 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: into the bucket. And I backflush it into the bucket 270 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, I like the dispose of 271 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: the cool and properly. Number two. When I finally get 272 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: it all clear and it's all water, the white bucket 273 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: really makes It's amazing how how crud will stand out 274 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: against the background of a white pail. So you're really 275 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: see yeah, okay, look at the size of that. You 276 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: know that's pretty nasty. At least you know what you're 277 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: trying to get out. Sure, Sure, what sounds like. It 278 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: sounds like great advice. Certainly, Uh, that's my course of action. Thanks, 279 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. If you need more, you know where 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: to find me. Thank you, Peter, thank you. But let's 281 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: go over and talk to JJW New Haven, Connecticut and 282 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: must be suber rude here in the car office. Your 283 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: second call, Dr Ron, thanks you taking my call. And 284 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: oh seven Forester or what's going on here? J J 285 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: all of eighty thousand miles. I had a tune up 286 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: several months ago, and I was told by the garage 287 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: where I had the tune up done that I was 288 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: leaking power steering fluid and they'd fix it for me 289 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: for four hundred dollars and that I should be seeing 290 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: it leaking. And it's been four or five months later, 291 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I've seen no sign of leaking. And the cards driving sign. 292 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I just need some advice. First, first question is do 293 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: you trust the garage? Great? Great question. Yeah, um, so 294 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: it's not a superut dealer. It's not, or it is 295 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: it is not. And listen, I'm not a fan that 296 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: you know. My perspective is just because somebody has Subaru 297 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: over their doorway, or Chevy or Ford or R a 298 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: automotive or whatever, it's a repair shop is only as 299 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: good as the people inside the place. So it doesn't 300 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: matter whether they're a dealer and independent. There's dishonesty and 301 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, in all forms and walks and occupations of 302 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: life on this planet, it seems my my my comment is, 303 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you're suspicious, see how they handle Hey, 304 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: can you show me the leak? I you know, I 305 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: brought somebody into the baby the other day and I 306 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: started showing her things and she says, no mechanics ever 307 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: done is for me, And I went, well, you know, 308 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: I want you to understand what we're up against and 309 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: where we're where. We're looking at the car this way, 310 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: and she walked out saying, you know, you really made 311 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: me feel comfortable looking at the car, and that's sort 312 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: of my job It's not just there to fix the cards. 313 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: My job is supposed to be to sort of help 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: fix the customer, to get you guys comfortable with what's 315 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: going on, and and and and part of that is 316 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: if I can be on the soapbox for a second, 317 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: not too long, you tell me when they get off. 318 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Is if you think it's difficult to understanding this generation 319 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: of car, holy smokes, wait till the twenty six start 320 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: coming out and and want to be repaired. Ten years 321 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: from now, you guys are gonna be scratching your head, going, 322 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: my god, bring back bring back a two thousand six. 323 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: It was so much simpler, and they're complicated. So you 324 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: can handle this one of two ways. Take it back 325 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: to him and say, you know, I'm thinking about that 326 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: power steering leak. Can you show me the leak? Can 327 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: you show me where it's leaking? And and see how 328 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: they react to that. You know, what should I be 329 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: failing any kind of pull or tightness if in fact 330 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: it was well, only if it was low enough on fluid. 331 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: But your first reaction, or your first indication JJ would 332 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: be you'd get that per per you know, power steering 333 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: wine because there's air in the system. So you know, 334 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: do power steering pumps on super use go bed? I 335 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: don't know. Is the sun gonna come up tomorrow if they? 336 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: If it does, it will, but you know, it's it's, 337 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: it's and then you've got to have the conversation with him. Okay, 338 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: whose power steering pump are they putting on it? Because 339 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: you know what kind of warranty is there. My experience 340 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: has been that the majority of the power steering pumps 341 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: being remanned in the aftermarket, there's only one or two 342 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: good vendors and the rest of them are just I 343 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: think they're doing it in their basement on in their 344 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: spare time, after hours because they're they're clearly not professional 345 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: in the way they're put together. So I would definitely 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: compare pricing between buying a new pump out of Subaru, 347 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: a reman pumped from a reputable supplier that's gonna give 348 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: you the same warranty as the super U dealer and 349 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: vice versa. You know, somebody doesn't repair like that. It 350 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: should come with a minimum of a year guarantee. Just 351 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: to follow up, I'm garaging this in a month for 352 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: five months. Actually have this looked at before I do that? Yeah, 353 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: I would, Um, listen, don't you want to know that? 354 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: I would have that looked at in a general overall 355 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: look of the vehicle, because when you garage it for 356 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: five months and then take it out come you know, 357 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: April or March, you know I would have another look 358 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: and see that anything deteriorate while it was sitting for 359 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: five months, you know it. So this way, at least 360 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: you you you kind of know, all right, it's you know, 361 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: cars change in the blink of an eye, and the 362 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: conditions change in the blink of an eye. And then, 363 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: more importantly than that, if you still don't trust these 364 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: guys after they can handle this, then you gotta find 365 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: a mechanic. Do you make house calls? Um? I don't know. 366 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: I got a lot going on right now. J J. 367 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to, but uh, you know the answer is yes, 368 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: but no, we'll talk. Let me know what happens, JJ, 369 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: and UH have some fun out there in the sun. 370 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: I guess you're going to Florida for five months. That's 371 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: why you're putting the car away. I'm run an Anie 372 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: in the car doctor when I was a quick first 373 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: half of the show, We're gonna heck the b goo though, 374 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: so I'm making Tom smile. I'll run an any in 375 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey, 376 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: welcome back any of the car doctor. Kind of rolling 377 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: along this hour. By the way, what is it with Samsung? Right? 378 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about recoils over the last couple of weeks. 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: Air bags, now, cell phones explode, now washing machines explode? 380 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, is are we just accepting of this? Are 381 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: we just expecting everything to fail and we just let 382 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: these companies keep going on and on and on. How 383 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: come this isn't like front page news. Everybody's rattling on 384 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: about it. I remember twenty years ago when General Motors 385 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: couldn't make a transmission to say of their life. That's 386 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: all we ever talked about. I I don't know, I 387 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: don't get it. You know, everybody seems even making a 388 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: chromy product, and everybody seems to be accepting of it. 389 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's uh, maybe the future is just going 390 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: back to juice canto strings. Boy, they didn't explode. Uh, 391 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's maybe all this is hype just to 392 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: keep us distracted from what's really going on. Let's get 393 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: over and talk to ED Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Ed welcome to 394 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'm just rambling a little bit today. 395 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: How are you today, sir? What's going on? How I'm 396 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: doing doing well? Um? Yeah? I have a Altobil Coutlass 397 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: Supreme SL three point one leader engine. Um. And what's 398 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: going on is uh, after driving it for a little while, 399 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: when I stop the red traffic light idoling, the car 400 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: starts sputtering. It sounds kind of like reminds me of 401 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: one of those Harley Davidson motorcycles who goes up up, up, up, 402 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: up up, and my techometer metal meter, it's not more 403 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: and they'll start bouncing down and then it finally it 404 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: actually does stall. And then when I try to immediately 405 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: trying to crank it back up, I get no, I 406 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: get the red death lights come on. The death lights 407 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: come on, but there's no crank at all. Um. But 408 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: but interestingly, interestingly, if I wait like uh three minutes, 409 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: right there at the intersection, I turned the key and 410 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: it crank's right up, really strong crank boom that goes 411 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: right off and I'm all my way uh and and 412 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: and then when I'm uh, then for the next few 413 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: lights or whatever, I have to put it in a 414 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: neutral and give a gas you know, what's our spluttering, 415 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: so it doesn't doesn't install. That seems to help prevent 416 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: the stalling. But then I mean putting, throwing it neutral, 417 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: giving a gas and then coming off the off the 418 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: light everything. But so I'm I'm per perplexed to what's 419 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: going on. Belching any black smoked, No, No, that's that's 420 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: that's fine. Um. I have a theory that maybe it's 421 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: there's a installation of plantic installation over some wiring maybe 422 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe gone, and it's grounding somewhere shorting out well 423 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: you know before we it almost it almost sounds like 424 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: you may have two problems. So let's let's talk about 425 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: the no crank condition first. All right, the no crank condition. 426 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: This car should have past locked two. If you look 427 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: at the ignition key, does that have a little black 428 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: chip in the key? Definitely does, Okay, so that's past 429 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: lock two. Passlock two was general motors idea that somebody 430 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: would want to steal this car, which I guess when 431 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: it was new, maybe it was something they wanted to 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: steal and they put an anti theft chip in there 433 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: so that would keep the vehicle from cranking and put 434 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: it into a no start condition. Um. If that if 435 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: somebody you know, tried to bypass the security system. So 436 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: does the car have tilt wheel? Um? I don't think so. 437 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: No tilt column. Let me let me let me think 438 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: about this. I actually I think I've never used because 439 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: I think it has it, but you never use it? Right? What? What? What? 440 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: One of the ways we used to test to see 441 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: if this was a pass lock problem, and it's not 442 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: completely accurate, but it's a good side of the side 443 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: of the sort of test is take the tilt and 444 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: the next time it goes into a no start, no crank, 445 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: take the tilt and change the position of the column, 446 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, high low, Because what you're doing is you're 447 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: flexing the wires, and if the wires themselves inside the 448 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: column have a connection or a fray or a looseness issue, 449 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: bouncing them around will change that. And if while you're 450 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: doing that it starts or it cranks, that tells us 451 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: we've got a problem. Up in the top of the column. 452 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: All right, If you were to go to the base 453 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: of the steering column, there are two very thin kind 454 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: of like piano wire, white wires in a separate connector. 455 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: All right, those are the two wires leading up that 456 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the theft module reads the resistance of the key when 457 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: you put it into the cylinder. So what happens is 458 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Ed comes along, puts his key in the ignition switch. 459 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: There is a device in the ignition switch that allows 460 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: it to transmit the resistance value of that chip down 461 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the wires to the theft module. The theft module goes, Okay, 462 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: it's Ed and not somebody with a screwdriver trying to 463 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: steal the car, and it then gives the okay signal 464 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: to the PCM to allow it to crank and run 465 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: the injectors. All right, So you know that's the first thing. 466 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people at this point in the game 467 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: bypass that system, all right, simply by And I think 468 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: I can talk about this on here because I don't 469 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: think anybody's stealing is probably at the top of anybody's 470 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: list at this point. But what what they'll do is 471 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: they they will take a resistance value reading off the key, 472 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Take a digital vault home meter, measure the chip. Each 473 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: side of that chip has a little piece of metal 474 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: sticking out of it. Put an ometer across the chip 475 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: and you'll get a resistance value. Go to the base 476 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: of the column unplugged the connector there. Go to radio shack, 477 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: get yourself a resistor, plug it into that harness. It'll 478 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: think that it's got the right resistance all day long 479 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: and start the car. All right, it'll require the key. 480 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: It will require the key still, but at least you 481 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: bypass that module. Now, what that does is that bypasses 482 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: the potential of broken wires up inside the column. Al Right. 483 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't allow if the module or the wiring from 484 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: the bottom of the column over to the module have 485 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: a fault in them. Does that make sense? I think. 486 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: So you're trying to be trying to bypass that chip 487 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: by two white candle wires you make coming out right, 488 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: You're trying to I'm putting I'm putting a radio shack 489 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: resist between those, right, You're putting to put a resistor 490 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: across those wires. You're trying to duplicate what the key 491 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: would normally send down as a signal. So so at 492 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: that point you're bypassing the ignition switch and the two 493 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: white wires that might be broken up inside the column. 494 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: What what do I What kind of resistor do I get? 495 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: You say, can tell them, Yeah, tell them what you're 496 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: looking for? A resistance that's got one point eight olms 497 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: or two olms or you know, two point two oms. 498 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of wattage here. It doesn't require 499 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot, all right. So that that that, and you 500 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: know what, if you went out to YouTube. I haven't 501 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: done this in a long time because we haven't seen 502 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: too many there twenty one years old now, but I'm 503 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: sure out on YouTube somebody's got a how to bypass 504 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: your GM pass two key system UM and install the 505 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: resistor chips so that that eliminates that UM. That should 506 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: allow starter enable, all right. Because the PCM did have 507 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: authority to prevent the starter from cranking on those vehicles, 508 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: that should allow starter enable. After that, it gets a 509 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: little bit more involved. Looking to see that we have 510 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: starter enabled. You need a scan tool to look at 511 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: a few things. So that's the first half of this conversation. 512 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: That's that side of the table, all right. I don't 513 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: think that's going to fix your stall problem. What I 514 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: want to know about your stall condition is I think 515 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: about fuel pressure regulators going bad. What is this the 516 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: three one or the three four? Which engine is this one? Okay? 517 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: So I think about fuel pressure regulators going bad, and 518 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: and burping fuel, the diaphragms go bad, they get porous, 519 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: and you know there's issues there. So do we have 520 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: a problem with fuel causing this to stall? And then 521 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: subsequently you have this past two key system because I'm 522 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: thinking everything is twenty one years old here everything, you know, 523 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: it is kind of on the ragged edge in terms 524 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: of age and condition. Um, could we have could we 525 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: have a pressure regulator fuel system, pressure regulator going south 526 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: causing it to flood out potentially, um giving us a 527 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: stall condition. And then the past key gives us a 528 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: no start. Uh. You know, once you get it to 529 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: the point of starting or cranking, it's got a crank, 530 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: all right, because the logic is what happens under the 531 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: hood won't keep it from cranking. It's still got a crank, 532 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: all right. It's it's just like any car where on 533 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: an older car, if you pull the coil wire out 534 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: of a crank all day long, but the spark goes nowhere, 535 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: so it will never start. The car has got a crank. 536 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: The car doesn't crank. We're gonna fix the cranking problem first, 537 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: and if you still have the problem then we'll talk. 538 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, is it a fuel pressure regulator? Is an 539 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: idol air control valve getting hung up, not able to 540 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: idle properly? Is it a map sensor issue? What is it? Uh? Um, 541 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's do the passlock to issue first. Let's 542 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: solve that so at least it cranks every time, and 543 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: then we can talk about the rest if we need to. 544 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: All right, sir, okay um. The one thing I was 545 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: someone that suggests, maybe, um, the battery, uh, he says, Um, 546 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: it's seen the battery will short out and cause the 547 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: engine to stall and not crank. Mean there somehow the 548 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: battery itself will cause a short in the in the system. Well, 549 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: I always would start a good diagnosis, and it's a 550 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: good point to bring up. I would always start a 551 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: good diagnosis on these cars by doing a full load 552 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: test on the battery and and making sure the cables 553 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: themselves are good, clean and tight, not just at the battery, 554 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: but also down at the starter where the positive lug 555 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: comes in, and also at the engine block where the 556 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: negative cable comes into the ground. So yes, battery connections 557 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: and battery itself. You know, have I ever seen a 558 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: battery caused one of those cars to stall? I saw 559 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: those cars do a lot, I can't recall a battery 560 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: causing at the stall. I have seen an alternator caused 561 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: those cars to stall, and that's that's a slightly different conversation. 562 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: But you know, before I start reaching for the stars, 563 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: I'd rather just let's go with the basics. So yes, battery, cables, connection, cleanliness, 564 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: and then take a look at pass loock too. Great, 565 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: All right, okay, great, thanks a lot, You're very welcome. 566 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Jay. I'm sorry and uh not ed, 567 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: and uh, let us know what happens from there. Zero 568 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero, running eating the car Doctor, coming back. 569 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm running late, don't go away. Welcome back the car Doctor. 570 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero nine nine zero zero is the 571 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: phone number. Let's go and talk to Bill Woodbridge, New Jersey. 572 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Some questions about it. One fifty Bill. Welcome to the 573 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: car Doctor, sir, how can I help? Good? What's going on? 574 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: The first question is, uh, we're doing some research and 575 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: we play some my air fill filter okay, And he 576 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: said that Kennon Chane and it's supposedly preferable and the 577 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: regular air fire you from me, Oh sure, absolutely, I've 578 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: got canns in the majority of family vehicles I'm trying 579 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: to think. I don't think I have a vehicle that 580 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a cannon filter in it imperforms a little bit. Yeah, 581 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: what what it does is what what can and filters 582 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: do is they help um clean up the airflow in 583 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: a sense. It's it's it's it's a better made filter. 584 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: It's a more evenly made filter in the sense of 585 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: air passing through it, so there's less turbulence, and it's 586 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: it's smoother airflow. Think of water in a stream bed 587 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and how that reacts to pebbles and rocks, and it's 588 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: less disruptions to flow, so it's smoother, it's more efficient, 589 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: and uh, you know the other the other wind is 590 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: that you'll no longer have an air filter to throw away. 591 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: You'll be just cleaning it, you know, every how many 592 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: miles and reusing it for the life of the vehicle. 593 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Second questions, they said something about only it too. I 594 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's prey oil when you buy original 595 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: one or the oil and have you clean it now 596 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: when you when you buy the original one, it does 597 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: come pre oiled, all right, and then you know you'll 598 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: need a little They call it an air filter or 599 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: an air charger kit or a filter charger kit, and 600 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: then you purchased one of those, and then you know, 601 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: typically again how much you drive every fifteen twenty thousand miles. 602 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes we do them every thirty thousand miles. But it's 603 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: you do have the option of cleaning it whatever you want, Okay, 604 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I could. And one other question. Sure, I have a 605 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: two thout with the five point Forward Leader, and I 606 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: used Mobile one and I noticed that I after but 607 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: I guess about was down a quarter of oil. I 608 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: have about thirty four thousand miles in a vehicle, and 609 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: it just seemed like a lot to use. I don't 610 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: know if it's a common problem with the forge or 611 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: they accept it. I don't agree with it in the 612 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: sense that it's acceptable. But Ford says a chord every 613 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: thousand miles. The majority of car companies today exception, Yeah, 614 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: the majority car companies are saying a court every thousand miles. 615 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: And the thing that gets me is, you know, okay, 616 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: so a quart of oil is cheap. Never mind the annoyance, 617 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and you know it's their way of saying, hey, we 618 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: built a piece of junk and just accepted. But I 619 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: wonder what that does long term to oxygen sensor and 620 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: catalytic converters, because obviously the exhaust is passing out the 621 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: tail pipe and it's leaving oil residuing the exhaust. It's 622 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: it's got to be. So you know, it's the car 623 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: gets a hundred forty miles and all of a sudden 624 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: it needs a catalytic converter. And you say to yourself, 625 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: is it just worn out or is it because it's 626 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: been burning a quarter of oil every thousand miles or 627 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: two thousand miles in your case, and is that shorten 628 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: the life of the cat And it sure has the 629 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: potential where it would do that because it is a vehicle. 630 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I generally don't even bother to check them. You know, 631 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like every usual oil and between all changes, 632 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and I don't see it's smoking or you know it's 633 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm noticeable. Well you won't you won't see. You won't 634 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: see any modern vehicle smoke really because the catalytic converters, 635 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, swallowing all of it and it's trying to 636 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's oxidizing it down and you know it's 637 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: it's having its catalytic reaction. So but you know, yeah, 638 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: that's that's accepted. We welcome to the world of new cars. Okay, Hey, 639 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna 640 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: bay the kN Inn't it great? Good deal? Bill, You 641 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the weekend. Thank you. Byye, 642 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm run on any of the car Doctor five zero 643 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. We're coming back right after this. Welcome 644 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: back when I'm meeting the car doctorate five five six 645 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. More information car Doctor show 646 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: dot com. Keep in mind that phone number is twenty 647 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: four seven eight five five five six zero nine zero zero. Call, 648 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: leave a message. We'll call you back and get you 649 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: in the lineup for the next live show. Let's get 650 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: over our last call the Hour Frank from Congress New York. 651 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: And I noticed I'm finishing out the Hour with Frank 652 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: every week now, the last couple of weeks. But that's okay. 653 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: I like Frank. Frank, what's going on does make it 654 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: a bad thing? My man? How are we doing? Not 655 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: at all? Yes, they're very good, very good. What's cooking? Okay, 656 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: let's just stare right to the subject. Two thousand and 657 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: one to Civic family. One of the family members had 658 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: the car gets a recall on the air bit brings 659 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: it in, They do the recall, everything's fine. Three us 660 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: down the road, the main sense of board in the 661 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: car goes, brings it back over that finds out that 662 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: Honda is the only one that can do it. They're 663 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: the only ones that have the software to turn around 664 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: and hand it Towns the family member. It's gonna cost 665 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to replace it and put it all 666 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: back together. And if you don't do it, it's it's 667 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: safety has it because it controls your air bag, it 668 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: controls your seatbelt and everything in the car if you 669 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: get in an accident. If you afford, you like that one. 670 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you don't like the fact 671 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: that the car manufacturers now have a proprietary hold over 672 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the majority of vehicles on the road today and they 673 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: control the market. Is that what you're saying? Exactly? Exactly 674 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: exactly what had a local dealership. I looked up the 675 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: pot I know at the pot course it was half 676 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: that price. And of course when you go with dealership, 677 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: you pay any amount of money per put out mechanic. Okay, um, understandable, Okay, understandable, 678 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: But you are you're going to recall. And it's these 679 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: articles coming out in magazines and books saying that by 680 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: the doo and the recall, it's blowing the board. They're 681 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: saying it's not and it's the customers responsibility. We have 682 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: a customer. We have a customer at the shop now, 683 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: we have we have a customer at the shop of 684 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: the two thousand two Civic that went through the air 685 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: big recall, and she's been back to Honda three times 686 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: because ever since, and I wonder what's going on here, 687 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: and that explains some of it that ever since now 688 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: she's they've been throwing seatbelts at the car, They've been 689 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: throwing modules at the car. There it seems like they've 690 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: got a problem that nobody wants to talk about. Um. 691 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, valid points, Frank, Hey, listen, where do you 692 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: get to a twenty six team car and there's a 693 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen modules on board and dealers you're the 694 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: only ones that can handle it. And if we let 695 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the industry get away from us like it slowly is, 696 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: that's going to be the future in a very short 697 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: period of time, four or five years from now. Yeah, 698 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: dealers will be the only ones fixing cars. But Frank listen. 699 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it because they're a jority of people 700 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: are only worried about what's on their cell phone, what 701 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: they're looking at, and not necessarily about the car. I'm 702 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: running any in the guard Doctor until the next time. 703 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive. Their placeless see it