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Speaker 1: Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from my Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: and I love all things tech and we are going

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Speaker 1: to bring you part two of a discussion about sci

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Speaker 1: fi gadgets and reality. And that means I get to

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Speaker 1: welcome back Arial Casting, a wonderful friend of mine, an

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Speaker 1: amazing person and also my esteemed co host and the

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Speaker 1: creator of the Large Nardron Collider podcast. Welcome back, Ariel. Hi, Jonathan, Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me talk at you again. Now. In

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Speaker 1: the last episode, we started off talking about some various

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Speaker 1: sci fi gadgets. You were telling us about their role

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Speaker 1: within different science fiction or speculative fiction. I should say,

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Speaker 1: because some of this suff really falls into fantasy more

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Speaker 1: than sci fi. But their role within speculative fiction, what

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Speaker 1: purpose do they serve? And then I was the the

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Speaker 1: bad guy with the pen popping all the balloons of possibility,

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Speaker 1: saying how how this was truly fiction as opposed to reality?

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Speaker 1: You crushed my spirit shoann as as is my one. Ariel.

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Speaker 1: You've known me for for like I think about twenty

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Speaker 1: years now, and so we're coming up on twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I think will be twenty years since we first met.

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Speaker 1: And so I think I first met and I knew

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Speaker 1: each other's names. I think you might have seen me

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Speaker 1: at the Renaissance Festival before you work there. Uh, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I have been crushing your dreams for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: So I guess there should be no surprise at this point. Well,

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Speaker 1: I want to. I just want to stay as it's

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Speaker 1: important for for people to remember that. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the last episode, we had decided that Doctor Who

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Speaker 1: has so far been the most accurate science action show,

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Speaker 1: yes in their technology being all timey wimi whibbly wobbly,

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Speaker 1: which I know I reverse that, but hey, I've watched

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Speaker 1: like maybe three full seasons of Doctor Who. Total. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I am no expert on it. That's why I

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Speaker 1: brought you on. So we're gonna pick up from where

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Speaker 1: we left off, and we're gonna talk about some more

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Speaker 1: the Star Treks I think for our first one. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to Star Treks, specifically with tricorders. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and this excites me because I know that a lot

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Speaker 1: of Star Trek technology people have tried to make true

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Speaker 1: we talked about in the previous episodes. So tricorders are

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Speaker 1: kind of this specialized I find multi tool that do scanning, analysis,

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Speaker 1: data recording, all of that. It can tell you the

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Speaker 1: for life, so on and so forth. This is something

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Speaker 1: that people have been working on for a long time

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Speaker 1: in real life, right, Jonathan. Well, they're definitely lots of

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Speaker 1: components that have their real world counterparts, right. So, like

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Speaker 1: Well you mentioned when you were talking about communicators get

432
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: out of jail free cards, and I feel like all

433
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: throughout fantasy, sci fi, and and comic books, we have

434
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: that many times it comes in the form of the tools,

435
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: or rather the materials they use to build the science

436
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: fiction tools. So let's do a little quick fire of

437
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: some minerals and and items such as that that exist

438
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: in the sci fi fantasy world and whether we actually

439
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: have real life counterparts. So let's start with adamantium, which

440
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: is a Marvel thing. It's virtually in destructible bowl. It's

441
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: a man made it's a steel alloy. It's what Captain

442
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: America's shield is made out of. So it's just like

443
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: extra super super super super strong steel. It's also the

444
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: stuff that Wolverine's skeleton is made out of. Yes in, Yeah,

445
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: that's true, codd In his skeleton is still made out

446
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: of bone. It was, it was coated in adamantium um.

447
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: And also, uh well, at least I think in the

448
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic universe, I think Captain America's shield might be

449
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: made out of vibranium um, not not adamantium because because

450
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: it disperses sound. But we'll talk about vibranium in a second. Yeah,

451
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I can't, but I can't tell you how they made

452
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: adamantium because it's a government secret. Yeah. Yeah, well this

453
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of. So you Aerial also are a fan of

454
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: HP Lovecraft horror type stuff, right, um, and Lovecraft Lovecraft

455
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: put a lot of the onus of his work on

456
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: the reader because he would say that a monster was

457
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: so reprehensibly horrible and awful that you the human brain

458
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: can't can't process it and you go crazy looking at it,

459
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: which is a great way to get around the problem

460
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: of having to describe what your monster looks like. Well,

461
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: in the same sort of way, saying that the process

462
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: of making this is so top secret that it's never

463
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: been shared is a great way to get around the

464
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: fact that you can't do this. Um. Yeah, So adamantium

465
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: is being a steel alloy. That's totally realistic. We have alloys.

466
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, steel itself is an alloy, and an alloy

467
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: is a metal and either another metal or sometimes a

468
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: mineral that are mixed together in order to create a

469
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: different version of what you're working with. So steel is

470
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: an alloy of iron and carbon, primarily iron by itself,

471
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: very useful stuff, but it has limitations. Uh, it gets

472
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: a little bindy, windy, and it can be a little

473
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: brittle whittle as well. And by putting a little carbon

474
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: into a little iron and doing a very very involved

475
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: process of smelting, you can create a steel and that

476
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: ends up being harder, being able to hold an edge better, um,

477
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: being less brittle, at least in certain circumstances, depending on

478
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: how much carbon is in the iron. And it means

479
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: that you can do other stuff with it. So adamantium

480
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: not realistic alloys totally a thing, all right? Well, and

481
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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna switch up the order we have these

482
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Mythrol, then, which is silver that

483
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: has tripled the strength of steel, seems to me be

484
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: another alloy. Is possible to make silver that strong? No? Um,

485
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: So myth roll comes from the Token universe, although it's

486
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: been used in fantasy ever since. Like there's so many

487
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: different fantasies stories that if they don't call it mythral,

488
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: it's essentially mythral. I think Dudgeons and Dragons just lifted it.

489
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: But I kind of like that because it makes it

490
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: feel like all these science fiction and fantasy universes all

491
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: come from some sort of truth. I know they don't,

492
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: but it's the fact that they all vaguely connect and

493
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: intertwined is interesting to me. Anyhow, go on, Well, myth

494
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: role being made of silver. So there are a couple

495
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: of interesting things about silver that they don't relate back

496
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: to myth roll, but they do make silver very special.

497
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: One of those things is that silver has anti microbial properties,

498
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: like silver kills micro robes. So for that purpose, you

499
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: will often find things like wound dressings that have nanoparticles

500
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: of silver worked into the dressing because it it fights

501
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: off infection, It fights off the possibility of getting an

502
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: infected wound. It's not a guarantee, but it definitely helps.

503
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: So we actually do see that silver has these kind

504
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: of almost magical properties because you know, it's it's hard

505
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: for us to imagine how on a macro scale this works.

506
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: But when you start looking at a nano scale, and

507
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: nanometer is one billionth of a meter. When you're looking

508
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: at that tiny of a scale, physics operate very differently

509
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: than they do on our level. And so there are

510
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: certain things about silver that do make it special uh.

511
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: And and there are alloys of steel, and there are

512
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: other um uh materials that we make that are lighter

513
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: and stronger than steel. Stronger, depending upon your definition, is strong,

514
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: like carbon fiber. So I would argue that carbon fiber,

515
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: which is an artificial thing that we work with, is

516
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: kind of similar to myth role. Although myth roll was

517
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: was naturally occurring, it was something that the dwarfs would

518
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: mind in in the token universe. And uh. With carbon fiber,

519
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: you can get something that has that's lighter than steel

520
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: but much stronger. But as I said, strong depends on

521
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: your definition because there are different types of material strength.

522
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: There's tensile strength, which is the resistance to being pulled

523
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: apart from deforming and breaking from a pulling uh kind

524
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: of stress. Then there's a hardness, which is more like

525
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: if you impact it, how does it hold up against that?

526
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Does it hold its shape or does it deform or dent.

527
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: So there are different ways to think about how strong

528
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: is something or is it brittle? This is something that

529
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: it's hard, but if you strike it, it breaks apart.

530
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: So when we say that something is stronger, we have

531
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: to define that further. We can't just say yes or

532
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: no it maybe oh, this thing has got amazing tent

533
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: stile strength. Like like there could be some some carbon

534
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: uh uh fiber stuff or some approach of of carbon

535
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: nanotube type stuff that you could say, oh, this has

536
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: got such tent style strength, we could use it to

537
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: build a space elevator. But then if you said, yeah,

538
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: but if anything hits it, it'll break right apart because

539
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: it has terrible strength on that on that side, like

540
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: it's great tent sile strength, but an impact is terrible,

541
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: then you are back to the drawing board. So, long

542
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: story short, methyrol not real, but there are some real

543
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: world uh materials that we have that that do fall

544
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: into that lighter than steel but stronger than steel category.

545
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: That makes me feel like uru metal is not so

546
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: much of a far fetch either then, because uru metal

547
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: is what Thor's hammer Milner was made out of, which

548
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: is uh the first moon stone from the first moon

549
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: with metallic properties that can store magic and and energy

550
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and it's resistant to damage and super durable. It feels

551
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: like everything you just talked about. But if you didn't

552
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: have to have one or the other. Well, also, I

553
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: didn't mention that we don't have materials that can store

554
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: electricity or like energy and magic, although you did say

555
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: silver was kind of magical and it's micropial. Oh you're

556
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: turning my own words against me. Oh mew mu oh

557
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: meumu came back to haunt me, just like when thor

558
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: throws it. Okay, so um yeah. When I used the

559
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: word kind of magical, I mean in the sense that

560
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: we is difficult for us to understand on a on

561
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: a on a common sense level. Um. So, all the

562
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: all the ideas of being able to store energy, there's

563
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: there's at least some it's not storing, but there is

564
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: some component to that that we can look at in

565
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: real world effects. So, Ariel, have you ever heard of

566
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: something called it the piezo electric or sometimes people say

567
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: piezo electric effect. I have, but explained it for everybody

568
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: who has not. That's fair areal. So, so piezo electric

569
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: is the way I say it, But I have heard

570
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: p a zo electric as well. It's p i e

571
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: z o. Uh. This is an interesting um feature that

572
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: some materials have. Quartz as an example, and it's a

573
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: material that if you were to apply a mechanical stress

574
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to the material, in other words, if you were to

575
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: squeeze it or or hit it or whatever, it would

576
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: cause a voltage difference to occur within the material itself,

577
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: so it could actually emit an electric charge. Likewise, if

578
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: you subject one of these materials to an electric charge,

579
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: it will experience a mechanical internal stress. So in other words,

580
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: it will vibrate. So if you zap a piece of quartz,

581
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: it will vibrate as a result, if you strike a

582
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: piece of quartz, it will generate an electric charge. And

583
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: this is why watches use use tiny quartz crystals to

584
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: keep time because it's a very specific reaction. It's always

585
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: going to be the same. If you apply the exact

586
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: same electric charge, you're gonna get the exact same amount

587
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: of vibration every single time, and vice versa. So it

588
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: because it's so repeatable and so dependable, that ends up

589
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: being an important element in timekeeping. So at least there

590
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: are materials that can convert one form of energy into another.

591
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: It's not the same as storing it. That's that's a

592
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: different thing. But there's at least some component to that.

593
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: Other than that, I can't think of any way to

594
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: make uru realistic. I mean, there are some mater els

595
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: that are harder than others, or else we everything we

596
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: might as well be made all the same stuff or

597
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: or anything. But that's just not the case. So there

598
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: is that. But uh, the other thing we have to

599
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: remember is that at least for natural occurring stuff. The

600
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: odds of us encountering something that is completely unheard of

601
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: in science are are low. Uh. In that the universe

602
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: is pretty much all made out of the same sort

603
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: of stuff, we might find different concentrations of it depending

604
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: on the specific uh, you know, systems we're looking at,

605
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: But we're not likely to encounter. Oh, here's this new

606
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: metal that it's it's a naturally forming metal. It's not

607
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: like it's an alloy that has all these amazing properties.

608
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: Were not likely to encounter that. You mentioned that courts

609
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: will vibrate or admit energy, which sounds like vibranium. All

610
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: the vibranium is a metal, in courts is mineral. Uh

611
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess are those the same thing? No? They are not, okay,

612
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: so I'm not okay. So courts is a mineral. Vibranium

613
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: is a metal. Vibranium is the most versatile metal in

614
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: the Marvel World. I was about to say the world.

615
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: It manipulates energy and vibrations. It can as There are

616
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: actually multiple kinds of vibratium. So some does absorb sound,

617
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: some kind of shoots it out like a kinetic energy.

618
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: There's even some is toxic and radioactive. And and can

619
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: liquefy nearby metals because of the way it affects vibration.

620
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: It manipulates vibrations, and then there's one sentient one that

621
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to touch. But so it

622
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: sounds like courts is pretty close to fibranium. I wouldn't

623
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: go that far, but but I mean, like, obviously there

624
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: are different materials that are uh that are better at

625
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: at transmitting vibrations than others. So vibration when you think

626
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: about it, yeah, I like to think of it as

627
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: think of think of it that you're in a room

628
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: with and it's a big room. Like let's say that

629
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: you're in a giant conference room at Dragon con Aerial.

630
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Let's say that there are only two other people in

631
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: that room with you, and they're on opposite corners of

632
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: the room from where you're at. You're not really able

633
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: to interact with them in a physical sense, like you

634
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: can't push them or anything because they're too far away. Right. Well,

635
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: if you are a material that has uh it's molecular

636
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: structure in such a way that the molecules can't interact

637
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: with each other easily, then it's very hard for vibration

638
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: to pass through it. But let's say that you're in

639
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: that same conference room and there's about to be about

640
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: Star Galactica panel, so there's like a billion people in there. Well, now,

641
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: because there's so many people in there, you can't even

642
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: you can't even move to the left or right without

643
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Speaker 1: bumping into somebody, Which means that if you aerial for

644
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: some reason, decided to bring the wrath of security down

645
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: upon you and you pushed someone next to you as

646
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: hard as you could, that would spread out through the

647
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: rest of the room as that person would collect with

648
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: other people, and you know it would dissipate over distance,

649
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: but it would spread the same thing with vibrations, right,

650
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: So if your molecular structure is packed tightly, then vibrations

651
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: can pass more easily through the material. And this explains

652
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: why the speed of sound is dependent upon whatever it's

653
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: traveling through. We usually think of the speed of sound

654
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: is traveling just through the air, but sound will travel

655
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: through other stuff as well, and depending on how tightly

656
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: packed those molecules are and how well they can move

657
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: against each other, that will determine how far the sound

658
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: can travel and uh and how how well how cohesive

659
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: it will remain. So there are those elements, but there's

660
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: nothing that I know of that is so effective at

661
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: absorbing vibration and then furthermore releasing it in some controlled

662
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: way that it would work the way vibranium does in

663
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: the Marvel comics. We should also mentioned that at least

664
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: in most versions of the Marvel Universe, the largest concentration

665
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: of vibranium is found, of course in Wakonda, Wakonda Forever,

666
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Wakonda forever. Alright, so I can't find any way to

667
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: make a good segue to this next one. What about

668
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: autumtanum in the Avatar world, which is a room temperature

669
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: superconductor for energy. It's toxic and it has a magnetic field,

670
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: So there are there are things that have magnetic fields

671
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: we call the magnets um, So that's that's realistic. There's

672
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: stuff that's toxic, so that's realistic. Super Conducting at room

673
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: temperature is where we have the big issue because on Earth,

674
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: if we want to make something a superconductor, we have

675
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: to cool it way way way down, and we're talking

676
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: about using liquid nitrogen and sometimes liquid helium to get

677
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: a substance cold enough so it can become a super conductor,

678
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: and a super conductor is really interesting. I was gonna

679
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: say really cool, but it has to be UM. It's

680
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: really interesting because, as the name suggests, it conducts electricity.

681
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: But the super part is that there's no electrical resistance.

682
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: With most conductors, there is an element of resistance, meaning

683
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: that the amount of electricity you're putting in at point

684
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: A is not going to be the same as what

685
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: you get out at point B because some of the

686
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: energy is going to be lost along the way as heat.

687
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: It will convert into heat, and the wire connecting point

688
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: A to point B will heat up over time, and

689
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: and so you you you have some efficiency issues, right,

690
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: and you work with that doing different things like if

691
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: you have a bigger uh cable as opposed to a

692
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: narrow one, then you reduce the amount of electrical resistance.

693
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: Um if you have a shorter one, you reduce the

694
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: amount of electrical resistance. But with superconductors, you have no

695
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: electrical resistance. What you get out at point B is

696
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: what you put in at point A, and you don't

697
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: lose anything in heat, which is super interesting and it

698
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: has incredible uses in technology. The large hadron collider, which

699
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: I like to think of as having stolen the name

700
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: from us with a large Nerdron collider. Yeah, the large

701
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: had not the case. No, there's totally the other way around.

702
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: The large Hadron collider uses superconductors to create these these

703
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: very powerful magnetic fields that propel the particle beams that

704
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: are used in their experiments. So super conductors are a

705
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: real thing, but room temperature ones are not. You can

706
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: almost think of this as the flip of fusion. You know,

707
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: in our last episode we talked about fusion a little

708
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: bit and how fusion is a very very hot process.

709
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 1: There have been claims about cold fusion, but they haven't

710
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: really withstood scientific scrutiny over time. The idea of cold

711
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: fusion being that you're able to create a fusion reaction

712
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: at essentially room temperature. So this is kind of the

713
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: flip side of that, the superconductor at room temperature. Nothing

714
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: that we have encountered or created so far has really

715
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: held up to either of those applications. Uh, if we

716
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: were able to do one or both of those things,

717
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: we could have incredible, incredible advancements in technology. And I'm

718
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: not saying that it's impossible. I'm just saying that so

719
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: far we haven't made it work. Well, it's such a

720
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: great discovery of in the sci fi world of a

721
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: a material that I guess that's why we're having so

722
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: many Avatar sequels. Yes, which is a matter for a

723
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: different show, that one being Large and New Drunk Collider Ariel.

724
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: I know you've got a couple more you want to

725
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: talk about about kind of getting around in the outer

726
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: space places. But before we do that, let's take another

727
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 1: quick break. All right. So that was a quick break,

728
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: but not because we're flying it faster than light through it.

729
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh that was horrible of me. I'm so sorry. But

730
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: he had to listen to that, all right, So they

731
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: mostly listened to me. So it's okay. Sci fi vehicles,

732
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: I guess the first thing we should start with is

733
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: flying in space in general. Yeah, Star Wars. I'm gonna

734
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick with Star Wars. Sure, it's such

735
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: a big topic. When you watch Star Wars, vehicles they start,

736
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: they stop in space, they bank in turn, and we

737
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: know that in real life you have to have something

738
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: to push off of and then something to stop you

739
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: in space. It's not Yeah, it's not just like putting

740
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: on the brakes. You've got it's when you you're in

741
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: a car and you put on brakes, it's that friction

742
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: that stops you, right. Um, So in star wars, they've

743
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: got all of these special ways that that space vehicles

744
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: travel so much so that they need to account for

745
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: when they're traveling in in planet atmospheres, whichause like repulsor

746
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: lifts that are anti gravity technology that keep them from

747
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: just smashing to the ground, yeah, or destroying the planet

748
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: as they lift off. And then when they're in space,

749
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: they use all kinds of inertial compensators I suppose because

750
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: they used bursts of energy from This is how they

751
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: explained it, at least because they had to explain it. Uh.

752
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: They basically use thrusters and bursts of energy from different

753
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: angles of a ship that depending on where the where

754
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: the center of gravity of the ship is in relation

755
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: to where that thruster is, will push that ship and

756
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: in a certain area. But because it's space, especially if

757
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: you like you're going to hyper space travel or super

758
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: fast travel, it'll like liquefy you. So you have to

759
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: have all these inertial common stators in your craft for acceleration, deceleration, drive,

760
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: in equalization to make sure that you don't turn into

761
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: driver's seat paste. Uh. That would be great if we

762
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: could put all of this into actual space travel. So

763
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: how likely is that not at all? Uh? Yeah? So

764
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: the let's be fair here because one, as we mentioned

765
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: in our last episode, Star Wars is science fiction adjacent.

766
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: It's not really science fiction because the science part that

767
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: is not really that important. It's it's a component that

768
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: is a setting, a window dressing for the story. The

769
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: story itself is a fantasy story more than a science

770
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: fiction story. Um. And we also have to remember where

771
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: the inspiration came from for George Lucas when he was

772
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: making Star Wars, because he wasn't trying to make a

773
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: hard science fiction story. He was emulating certain things that

774
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: he loved about cinema, and one of the things he

775
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: loved were they really exciting dog fight sequences and movies

776
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: that were set in World War Two where you would

777
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: have these And in fact, there are there there side

778
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: by side comparisons of scenes from older World War Two

779
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: setting movies and say the X Wing attack on the

780
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: Death Star, where you can see the influences side by

781
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: side and say like, oh wow, they almost recreated this

782
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: older World War two movie shot for shot, but they

783
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: used the Star Wars stuff instead. It's not quite that level.

784
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Bit's close. And so because of that, because the exciting

785
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: ways that planes can move in the atmosphere, that's how

786
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: the the vehicles move in Star Wars. So there was

787
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: more to evoke a feeling in the audience that was

788
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: never meant to be. This is the way that stuff

789
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: actually works in space, right, so we should be fair

790
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: about that. Although the whole parsex thing is still a

791
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: huge problem. So there so so keeping that in mind

792
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: when you do move to space, because as you say, aerial,

793
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: there's no atmosphere there. You can't bank off of things.

794
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: You can't have these swooping motions. And when you're using thrusters,

795
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: the center of gravity and pivot points do matter. You

796
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: can do stuff. You can have vehicles change their orientation

797
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: in space, but it takes time to do it. Uh.

798
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily even have to use thrusters to do it.

799
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: You can use what you're called fly wheels. So if

800
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: you just think of it as literally a wheel that's

801
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: mounted onto a rotating motor, and the wheel is weighted

802
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: a little bit and you rotate that wheel, you can

803
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: create Uh, the motion necessary to alter the orientation of

804
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: a spacecraft within space. They've done this with things like

805
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: satellites like the Hubble telescope, because obviously otherwise the only

806
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: option is to load down the satellite was so much

807
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: fuel that will be able to continually operate and then

808
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: use the fuel to to do thruster adjustments. Right, that's

809
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: not realistic. So the fly wheels do work, but it's

810
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: not You're not going to get that smooth and more

811
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: importantly fast change of direction and ability to maneuver in

812
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: space the way we see in Star Wars. That's just

813
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: that's just not going to happen. Um, it would be

814
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: really cool if it could, but yeah, it's a completely

815
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: unrealistic depiction of how spacecraft would travel in space. Well,

816
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: it's also there's a lot of unrealistic depiction of how

817
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: fast spacecraft travel in space. So let's and and each

818
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: There are lots of different terms for that as well

819
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: in science fiction. So let's start with light speed because

820
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I feel this makes me really sad. We have light speed,

821
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: hyper space, and warp speed that we want to talk about,

822
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: and light speed is the most realistic. We've almost reached

823
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: it at points, and the one that uses light speed

824
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: and science fiction is spaceballs. Well, there's a lot of

825
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: other things that use light speed, but we we chose

826
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: we chose spaceball because they they've gone to plaid um spaceballs. Yeah, so,

827
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: so faster than light. Um, it's completely unrealistic to ever

828
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: have faster than light travel as in you you just

829
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: have some means of pushing your vehicle faster than light

830
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: itself can traveled. Like you're not talking about any other tricks.

831
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: You're just talking about somehow speeding up beyond the speed

832
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: of light. And um. The way you can think about

833
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: this is that anything that has mass, from the millennium

834
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: falcon to an electron, anything that has mass cannot travel

835
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: at the speed of light. Uh. The only reason photons

836
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: can travel all at the speed of light is that

837
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: they have no actual mass. They have relativistic mass, but

838
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: that's different and outside the needs for us to have

839
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: a discussion here. But they don't have any real actual mass,

840
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: so they can they can do this. They in fact,

841
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: they have to. They have no option. They travel at

842
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: the speed of light because that's what it is. But

843
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: but anything that has mass cannot As you get closer

844
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: to the speed of light, you get heavier, is a

845
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: good way of putting it. You get your your your

846
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: your weight, your mass really increases. And it's kind of

847
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: like imagine you're in a hallway and there's a door

848
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the hallway aerial, and you're allowed

849
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: to start walking towards that door, but I've given you

850
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: an a small requirement, which is that each step you

851
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 1: take has to be half as long as the last

852
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: step you took. So let's say you take a normal step, Well,

853
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: your next step needs to be half that, and your

854
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: next step has to be half that, and then half that.

855
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Because of that having you're never going to reach the

856
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: door at the end of the hallway, because you're you're

857
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: constantly moving forward, but at increasing incrementally smaller uh distances.

858
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: Same thing happens when you try and get closer to

859
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: the speed of light. You can start to approach it,

860
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: but you're never gonna hit it, which means you you

861
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: can't go past it. Right, if you're never even gonna

862
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: achieve the speed of light, if you have mass, you

863
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: cannot possibly go faster. Also, the thing we have to

864
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: keep in mind, and this is something that science fiction

865
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: largely does away with. In most cases hard science fiction

866
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: not so much, but like casual entertainment, is that as

867
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: you get faster, time relative to somebody else appears to

868
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: be passing at a different rate. So if I were

869
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: staying here on Earth because I'm boring, but you aerial,

870
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: we're jumping in your space hot rod to go light

871
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: speed to someplace and then come back to me like

872
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: you do. When you come back to me, it would

873
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: seem as though time had barely passed at all for you,

874
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: that that you were you were, you know, remarkably young,

875
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: and to you it would seem as though time had

876
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: traveled very fast for me and that I had aged

877
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: quite a bit. For both of us, in our individual experiences,

878
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: time would pass exactly the same as it always would.

879
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: If we were each wearing a watch, the seconds would

880
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: be ticking away exactly the way they would if we

881
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: were standing next to each other. It's only through our

882
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: relative perspectives that we perceive a difference in the passage

883
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: of time. That would also be an issue if you

884
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: were to travel faster than light. If you were able

885
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: to do that, you would technically be traveling faster than

886
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: how things happen, so you'd be traveling back in time,

887
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: because imagine that you turn on a flashlight and then

888
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: you try travel in the same direction as where you

889
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: were pointing the flashlight, but you go faster than light.

890
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: You would get to your destination before the light could

891
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: get to you, uh, from when you turned it on

892
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: when you were back on Earth, which means that when

893
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: you did see the light, you would be looking into

894
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: the past of Earth and see the moment where you

895
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: had done something before you did it, and you start

896
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: to get in some really difficult causal paradoxes as well.

897
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: So faster than light travel physically impossible as far as

898
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: we understand physics, and would also have to require some

899
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: really timey whiney stuff if we were to work it out.

900
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: That's a lot faster than back to the future, says anyhow,

901
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: you know you say that. But Star Wars and Star

902
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: Trek both kind of when they travel faster than light,

903
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: they aren't accounting for just traveling in space. There either

904
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: breaking a whole through space. It's hyper space and hyper drive,

905
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: which is just basically creating a fourth dimension and going

906
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: in one place and coming out another to the point

907
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: that the actual objects around you, the stars, meteors, things

908
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: like that aren't there. There are shadows there, which is

909
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: great because you don't want to come out in the

910
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: middle of a meteor. But but so to me, it's

911
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: kind of like a wormhole. They're not they're not saying

912
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm traveling through space faster than like they're saying I'm

913
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: traveling so fast that I'm breaking through space to the

914
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: other side, break right onto the other side. Both of

915
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: these are interesting, right, And Star Trek, it's not that

916
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: they're breaking from one side of space to the other,

917
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: so that they're going into one of those different dimensions

918
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: which you talked about. We we they theoretically exist, but

919
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: we can't do anything with them with them. But in

920
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: Star Trek, you know, they aren't breaking through like in

921
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Star Wars. They're going into subspace through covered in a

922
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: warp bubble and coming back out the other side. So

923
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: which just similar. I guess they're similar. They're similar. So

924
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: let's think about these interns. So hyperspace means generally that

925
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: you're you're opening up some sort of interdimensional portal and

926
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: passing through it and then coming out of an interdimensional

927
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: portal on the other side that is located in a

928
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: different point within space, and you still have to travel

929
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: in between the two, and there's no guarantee that the

930
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: two portals are going to be super close together. So

931
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: you go into hyperspace, you might be in hyperspace for

932
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: a while as you travel through this interdimension or this

933
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: other dimension, and then you come out the other interdimensional

934
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: portal to your destination. Um, hyperspace has its problems, largely

935
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: also because of episode eight of Star Wars. It totally

936
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: messes with the way hyperspace works in Star Wars because

937
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: spoiler alert if you haven't seen episode eight, but a

938
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: character named hold Oh she she she has the ultimate

939
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: sacrifice by taking a rebellion ship or actually a republic

940
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: ship I guess, and making it jump into hyperspace right

941
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: into a star destroyer in order to ram it essentially

942
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: to a hyperspace ram. But uh, that kind of ignores

943
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: the lore of how hyperspace works from previous Star Wars entries,

944
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: where you're going into this extra dimension where you wouldn't

945
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: really pass through an object physically in our dimension that way. However,

946
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: you emerged from hyperspace within one of those things, then uh,

947
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: that would be bad. You would die, right like if

948
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: you were to emerge in the middle of a supernova,

949
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: your ship would be consumed. So either that maneuver shouldn't

950
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: have worked at all because she would have just jumped

951
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: through that ship in the other dimension and nothing would

952
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: have happened. Or if it did work, why the heck

953
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: wasn't anyone using just just mass just ships with a

954
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: hyper drive, no one on board, and use those like

955
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: torpedoes like you could literally just you can plot a course.

956
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: They always use a computer to plot the course because

957
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: without it, there's no guarantee that you wouldn't emerge in

958
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: the middle of an asteroid belt, for example, So they

959
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: use computers to plot their course. Why not just plot

960
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: your course, get off the ship. You don't have to

961
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: sacrifice yourself. You can still have that happen. And then

962
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: that would also mean if you work backward. Well, if

963
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: that's possible, then why not just use that for the

964
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: original Death Star for example? Why have this very risky

965
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: run on the Death Star? So they kind of wrote

966
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: themselves into a plot hole corner there with that one

967
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: um with the warp drive. The interesting thing there areal

968
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: is that the concept is kind of cool. Think of

969
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: think of having a map, right and you know where

970
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta is and you know where Los Angeles is. Those

971
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: are not close together, right, not at all. It would

972
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: be a very drive from Atlanta to Los Angeles a

973
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: couple of days. What if you were able to fold

974
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: the map so that Los Angeles and Atlanta right next

975
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: to each other, and it's a half hour drive between

976
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: the two, and it's just because you get to skip

977
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: all the middle part. But then I wouldn't see the

978
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: world's biggest ball of yarn. If you're if you're going

979
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: up to Minnesota so that you can go to Los Angeles,

980
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: you have got crazy route planning skills. Um, yeah, so

981
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: if you. But but you get my point, the idea

982
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: being that instead of the Star Trek gets around the

983
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: idea faster than light by saying we're not really traveling

984
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: faster than light. What we're doing is we're warping space

985
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: time around the ship. We're using this warp bubble to

986
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: pass through time and space, uh at a rate that

987
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: would be faster than light if we were traveling a

988
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: straight line. But we're not traveling a straight line. We're

989
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: folding space in on itself so that we're getting so

990
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: that there's less distance between point A and point B.

991
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: And when we say, go warp four or warp five

992
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: or warp six. That's describing the extent to which we

993
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: are warping space in order for us to do this,

994
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: which would lead to one of the dumbest episodes of

995
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: Star Trek the Next Generation where they would have to

996
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: come up with a universal warp speed limit because they

997
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: were ripping spacetime apart um. So that in theory is possible.

998
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: It's it's something that people have actually worked on as

999
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: a possibility of the idea of warping spacetime in order

1000
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: to travel faster. Now, I say in theory, because in

1001
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: reality to do it, you would need so much energy

1002
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: that it's the equivalent of, say, the mass of an

1003
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: entire galaxy. So remember that the relationship between mass and

1004
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: energy is E equals mc squared. Energy equals mass times

1005
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: the speed of light multiplied by itself. That's an enormous number.

1006
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: So if you're looking even if you're looking at like

1007
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: a Son's mass of energy, that is a pun intended

1008
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: and astronomical number, and that means that it is not

1009
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: likely to ever happen because it just requires way too

1010
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: much energy, and then you would have to continue to

1011
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: operate it that would just be to start it. So

1012
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: to to actually travel anywhere doing that, you would have

1013
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: to overcome, at least based on our understanding right now,

1014
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: you would have to overcome energy requirements that are far

1015
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: beyond anything we can even conceive right now, Like we're

1016
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: we're still struggling here on Earth to meet our own

1017
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: energy demands without destroying the planet's ecosystem through the burning

1018
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: of fossil fuels. We are well beyond the ability to

1019
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: create a warp drive based on those energy needs. Well,

1020
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: you're you're right, you're very right. Uh, but there's some

1021
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: some sci fi travel that we're not well beyond our

1022
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: capabilities to create, like hovercraft. Okay, okay, you say hovercraft,

1023
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that, Well, you know, kind

1024
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: of flying cars, which we have some prototypes. They don't

1025
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: exactly work like they do in the sci fi world.

1026
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: But okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it down to

1027
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: the simplest the little hovercraft, skateboard and back to the future. Okay, okay,

1028
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: all right, Well, I'll say it this way. Under very

1029
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: restrictive circumstances, we can do something that would look similar

1030
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: to what we see in Back to the Future. With

1031
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: hovering skateboards, except that you wouldn't be able to like

1032
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: actually use them as a skateboard, which is become of

1033
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: a bummer. Okay, so let's talk about you just don't

1034
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: have that much magnetic track to push yourself along. Well,

1035
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: not not that, but that your weight would push it down,

1036
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: like you would be too heavy for it to support.

1037
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 1: So um, not you specifically areal, I mean any person. Yeah,

1038
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't a that wasn't a dig. So using magnets

1039
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: to hover, that's totally possible. Like, we can we can

1040
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: do that just with regular permanent magnets. Like you probably

1041
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: have seen little toys where you've got like a pedestal

1042
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: and a stick, and you put a little disc magnet

1043
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: down on the stick and it floats above the pedestal.

1044
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: That's because the magnetic fields are are they have the

1045
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: same magnetic pole facing one another because like, uh, like

1046
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: repulses like so you have the north pole of one

1047
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 1: magnet pointing towards the north pole of a second magnet,

1048
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: you can feel them pushing against each other. I'm sure

1049
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: anyone who's played with magnets has experienced this. If you

1050
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: flip one of those around so that the north pole

1051
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: of one in the south pole the other are facing

1052
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: each other, they attract and they'll stick together. So if

1053
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: you did have a magnetic surface, uh, and let's say

1054
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: it's the north pole of that magnetic surfaces pointing up,

1055
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: whether it's an electro magnet or a permanent magnet or whatever,

1056
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: and you had another set of permanent magnets or electromagnets

1057
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: also with the same pole facing down, you can in

1058
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: fact levitate above them. That's how mag lev trains work.

1059
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: They either use permanent magnets or they use electro magnets,

1060
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: or a combination of the two, and they create this

1061
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: levitation through those opposed wealth the same poles facing one

1062
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: another essentially, so it does work. But of course the

1063
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: ground is not magically all magnetically oriented the same way,

1064
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: so we can't we can't have yeah, yeah, boy, we

1065
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: can dream, but you know, you can't have like a

1066
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: just a board that hovers over this. One thing that

1067
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: also I wanted to mention though, is that we were

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Speaker 1: and you get magnets set up. Uh. One of the

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Speaker 1: interesting things about about getting the temperature of a material

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Speaker 1: that cold, a super conducting material that cold is that

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Speaker 1: you get was called like a quantum lock, a magnetic

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Speaker 1: lock on that it locks out fields magnetic fields from

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Speaker 1: the substance, but as long as the substance has some

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Speaker 1: imperfections in it, some magnetic fields will get through. This

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Speaker 1: means that if you have let's let's say this, You've

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Speaker 1: Pole to north Pole to south Pole to north Pole

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Speaker 1: to south Pole. So you've got a chain of these magnets.

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Speaker 1: You put the super cool material over this chain of magnets,

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Speaker 1: it will lock into place with its orientation with regard

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Speaker 1: to those magnets, and you could just give it a

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Speaker 1: little tap and it will just float right over those

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Speaker 1: magnets or right under the magnet like it'll just magically

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Speaker 1: seem to to lock into place at whatever distance you've

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Speaker 1: put it. As long as you're within the magnetic field

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Speaker 1: of those magnets, it will stay in that place. If

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Speaker 1: you tilt it a certain way, it will maintain that

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Speaker 1: same tilt as it floats over or under the path

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Speaker 1: of magnets. The first time I ever saw this on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: it blew my mind. I was I was like, this

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Speaker 1: is trippy, and uh, it is an incredible thing, but

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Speaker 1: again not something we could do in our day to

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Speaker 1: day world, in our real lives. There are other methods

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Speaker 1: like the flying cars you mentioned, where you can use

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Speaker 1: things like propellers, jet engines, that kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 1: you're not using magnetic levitation. There's also other types of levitation.

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Speaker 1: There's acoustic levitation where you're using sound waves, but again

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Speaker 1: not something that you could easily do with a vehicle.

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Speaker 1: So there are ways we can make flying vehicles, and

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Speaker 1: there are ways that we can make cool experiments with

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Speaker 1: hovering materials, but not at the level that we see

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Speaker 1: in science fiction. Sadly, I remember or even went back

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Speaker 1: to the future. Two came out and they actually perpetuated

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Speaker 1: the rumor that there were in fact those real skateboards,

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Speaker 1: but until uh uh did ah would they withdrew all

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Speaker 1: of them from the market for fear of lawsuits, but

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Speaker 1: that they really did exist and that was all just

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Speaker 1: a publicity stunt. And I think I think with that,

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Speaker 1: while we still have other things we can talk about, Ariel,

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Speaker 1: because we didn't even touch on teleportation or any of

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Speaker 1: that other stuff. But then I think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to call it quits because this has already been a

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Speaker 1: second epic long episode of tech Stuff, and if I

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Speaker 1: go any longer, tari will kill me. And we don't

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Speaker 1: want that, no, because we need her to continue to

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Speaker 1: edit and produce Large Nerdrun Collider, which, again, for you

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Speaker 1: out there who aren't familiar, Ariel and I have a

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Speaker 1: new show on I Heart Radio called The Large Nerdrun Collider,

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Speaker 1: which is actually version two point oh of that show,

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Speaker 1: the show ex listed several years ago, where we talk

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Speaker 1: about pop culture news. We do deep dives into topics

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Speaker 1: that are important in the Gecko sphere, and we also

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Speaker 1: mash up different properties and different concepts within speculative fiction

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Speaker 1: and pop culture to find out what happens when people

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Speaker 1: stop being polite and start getting real. M I don't

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Speaker 1: know if any of my listeners even recognize that reference.

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Speaker 1: If if you're of the MTV generation and you understood

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Speaker 1: what I was just referring to give me a tweet

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Speaker 1: tech Stuff, HSW I'm curious fear or Ellen c underscore

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Speaker 1: podcast that's the other Twitter feed and and I think

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Speaker 1: you'll really enjoy those. Uh. One of the nice things

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Speaker 1: about the l NC episodes is that Arial gets to

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Speaker 1: talk a lot more that on tech stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I could talk more, but you're the expert on these things,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, experts of experts a weighty word, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take it you're less ignorant on some of how these

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Speaker 1: things actually work, so fair enough. I'm happy to let

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Speaker 1: you talk and learn some things in the process. And

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. Thanks for having me absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. And and guys, make sure

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Speaker 1: you go and check out the large Nerdron Collider. We've

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Speaker 1: got some great episodes already in the can. They are

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Speaker 1: to hear our thoughts about, you know, important stuff that's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world's of geek culture and pop culture,

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Speaker 1: and also our our flights of fancy, which are a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun for us to do. There's been some

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Speaker 1: very creative uh mash ups already. I'm so happy about them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're pretty entertaining, if I do say so. Myself.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we're gonna wrap this up. If

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Speaker 1: you have any suggestions for future episodes of tech Stuff,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a topic about a company, a specific technology

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Speaker 1: at trend in tech, anything like that, then let me know.

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Speaker 1: Reach out on Twitter the handle is text stuff H

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Speaker 1: s W and I'll talk to you again really soon.

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