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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Titans Podcast, better known as the OTP.

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Speaker 1: My name is Mike. Keith amy Wells is always here.

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Speaker 1: Why hello, Mike, how are you? I'm so good because

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Speaker 1: the head coach is here. Yes, Mike Rabel, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the OTP. Thanks for having me. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: returning to the OTP. I guess I earned a second

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Speaker 1: trip back. Oh gosh, I mean you're invited anytime. We

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Speaker 1: just got through taping Titans All Access a training Camp special.

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabel is such a pro on TV. It's true

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Speaker 1: for face for radio. No, no, no, you're You're very good.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask you a serious question and

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Speaker 1: I know you're going to immediately shut me down, so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get through it whether you like it or not. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you were playing for the Patriots, you're in Boston,

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest markets in the country, and you're

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Speaker 1: one of the big names on the Patriots, these teams

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Speaker 1: that have won three Super Bowls, one of the Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you were the big name. So good. Now you're playing along.

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Speaker 1: That makes me happen. Did you ever seriously consider a

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Speaker 1: media career? I think briefly, and I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of friends that are very successful in the media business,

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Speaker 1: local media, national media. Absolutely, and I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of great friends that are in coaching, Wes Welker, Larry Izzo,

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Speaker 1: and I just think that it's it's what drive you,

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Speaker 1: and I think what drives me as a coach is

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Speaker 1: that you got to put it out there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You're always going to be right as an analyst.

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Speaker 1: You're always going to be right when you're on TV

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Speaker 1: and you have the microphone. You have the ability to

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Speaker 1: never make a mistake, Oh, I would have done this,

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Speaker 1: or I would have done that, And you are allowed

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Speaker 1: to second guess. We can't second guess. As coaches. You

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Speaker 1: have to believe in something. You have to get your

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Speaker 1: players to believe in it, and you have to try

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Speaker 1: to execute it and you get one chance at it.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's it's the closest thing for

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Speaker 1: me to still be able to have that competitiveness as

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Speaker 1: a player and try to help our players by the

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Speaker 1: things that I've learned through my playing and coaching career.

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Speaker 1: So something that happened over the offseason is Jason Witten

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Speaker 1: leaving media and going back to football. That move maybe

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise you. I mean, I think that for him,

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Speaker 1: that's his choice and his decision. If he still loved

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Speaker 1: football and he feels like that he can still play,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely the right choice. It's the right choice because

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Speaker 1: it's his choice and he made it with his family

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Speaker 1: and with their best interest in mind. But you're saying

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Speaker 1: the media lure just never granted you. I think that

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Speaker 1: it was thought about and it was considered. Yeah, would

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Speaker 1: it be nice to spend a lot more time and

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Speaker 1: not miss as many games and be able to watch

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Speaker 1: Tyler's game or maybe work during the week and go

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Speaker 1: watch Tyler play on Saturdays. And but again, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to follow a dream. My wife urged me to do

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Speaker 1: this at Ohio State. UM I retired and accepted the

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Speaker 1: position at Ohio State in the same press conference, and

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Speaker 1: after three years there, she said, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: do this, I think we should. You should consider the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's what we know, it's where you spent fourteen years,

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Speaker 1: to where our kids grew up. And you know, it

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Speaker 1: was a difficult decision to leave Columbus Man. We built

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Speaker 1: a house on eight acres that we didn't think we

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Speaker 1: going to have the house and that was a you know,

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Speaker 1: to move a kid that that would have been on

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Speaker 1: a date line though, yeah, someone else, I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: outlive me. Um. It's just that, you know, it was

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Speaker 1: it was a time where we had to consider what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Tyler was going to be a freshman,

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Speaker 1: and that's those are difficult years to say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: know we if we're gonna do this, we we got

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Speaker 1: to do it now. Can you imagine living the life

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Speaker 1: that you have lived as a pro athlete and the

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Speaker 1: coach married to someone who was not an athlete in

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Speaker 1: their own right. No, I mean, the biggest sports fan

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Speaker 1: second biggest sports fan would be my wife. I mean, golf, tennis, football, basketball,

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Speaker 1: I mean, she saw it as the side of a player.

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Speaker 1: She saw the injury. She saw the surgery, she saw,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna throw them down the drain. And those

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Speaker 1: are things that she did. And you know, now we're

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Speaker 1: raising boys that are, you know, athletes too. It must

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Speaker 1: a Sun playing football and a Sun playing baseball. That's

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Speaker 1: I think that it was probably worse when they were younger.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think Tyler'd ever play football after

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Speaker 1: The big thing for coaches in this time in the

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Speaker 1: I coached in college. I've coached these players, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, up until last year, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: relate that, I said, this isn't the only time I

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Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any right way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like parenting. It's there's no right or wrong answer.

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Speaker 1: It's it's how you can try to convey a great

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Speaker 1: One of the things that must be appealing to players

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Speaker 1: if we traveled much. I'm almost positive I spent my

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Speaker 1: for Boston College, I'm gonna get to watch him play

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Speaker 1: and starting his first game, you know, just just being around.

430
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Speaker 1: And I think that I enjoyed these coaches. I'd love

431
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Speaker 1: our staff, and so I don't know how to do

432
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: it any different. Tony Doos or running backs coach. I

433
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: mean he came and watched Carter play baseball, and Stretch

434
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: came and and and Booker came. And I watched Tony's

435
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: daughter Savannah play high school basketball um for Ravenwood. So

436
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, I really appreciate and I love seeing our

437
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: players as kids. I love seeing our coaches kids around

438
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: here because that's that's the only way you can do

439
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: this thing. Is when I was in Houston, Billy's like, hey,

440
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: if the boys, you know, they open invitation. I mean

441
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: to be out there at training camp, on the field,

442
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, being in a weight room around our players.

443
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: And again it was always, you know, I try to

444
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: bring my kids up in the locker room in New

445
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: England where you're very respectful. When they were at a

446
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: young age, but they knew how to act and when

447
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: they would see mister and missus McNair uh. They went

448
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: up and I made sure that they thanked them for

449
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: allowing them to be there, allowing them to have lunch

450
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: or breakfast or whatever it may be. So you know,

451
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: they they've been given a lot, but I try to

452
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: make it make sure that they're doing it the right

453
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: way and that they're they're working for it. It sounds

454
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Speaker 1: like this is very much an extension of your family,

455
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: the people that are here in this building that you

456
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: spend all your time with. It is I mean from

457
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: our training staff to our to our strength staffs, to

458
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: our equipment staff, to Lynkoya and Johnny and Jerry who

459
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: clean our building. Everybody here is here for a reason,

460
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: and that's to help the team win. And they all

461
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: have a job to do. And I'm always reminding our

462
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: players that their character is determined by how they can

463
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Speaker 1: help someone or how they treat people who could do

464
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: nothing for them, and that when we see Jerry or

465
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: Lyncoia or Johnny outside of football, that they couldn't do

466
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: anything for us. But when you get to know their

467
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: stories and you meet their kids, and Lynkoya and Johnny

468
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: bring their kids to a practice and our players have

469
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: them in a locker room and they're shooting hoops with them. Yeah,

470
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: I know we got the right kind of guys. We

471
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: got the makeup of the right kind of guys that

472
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: because they care. And when they when we bring people

473
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Speaker 1: to practice and people visit us that aren't as fortunate

474
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: as we are, our players are, they're sprinting over there.

475
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: There's a race to see who can say hello to

476
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: Christian Abercrombie or Tim Shaw or Luke Conger this past week,

477
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: who can be there first, who can take the best picture,

478
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: who can give them the cool at Marcus gave him

479
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: as cleats buyer, a game, gloves and footballs and so

480
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing to watch how our players treat people

481
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: who are less fortunate than than we are and as

482
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Speaker 1: part of that family, somebody like Dean Peas when Dean

483
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: pas caught the punt which went viral on social and

484
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: every and it was nearly seventy years old, that's pretty

485
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: good effessive, pretty good effort. The best part of that, though,

486
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: was the reaction of the defensive players without a doubt

487
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: that they love them. I mean, and they do, and

488
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: Amy and I've had a chance to have several on

489
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: the podcast, and again we're talking more people than we

490
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: are plays in football when we're doing this, and so

491
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Speaker 1: when we talk to them about Dean Pas, they love

492
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: they love him, and that's the reason he's here because

493
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Speaker 1: I loved him. I loved him as a player, and

494
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: he came from college and he had it wasn't an

495
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: easy room to coach. I mean, it's me, it's Bruski,

496
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: it's McGuinness, Um, you know, Colvin, Ted Johnson, you know

497
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: Junior say out. I mean, there's there's not a lot

498
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: of guys that are in there, like really easy to coach.

499
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: So no wallflowers exactly. And so that's why Dean's here

500
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: because the impact that he made all my life, Um,

501
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: him and mel and so we're lucky that he's here.

502
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: And the reaction, that's the thing that I took. I

503
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: was like, they lifted him off the ground. I'm like,

504
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: just don't throw him down on the ground, just to

505
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: keep him up on his feet. But we were laughing,

506
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: we were laughing this morning. I said, Dean, you are

507
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: a you're a celebrity, and uh, you're all over to

508
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: the social media and everything else. So it was awesome.

509
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it was fun to watch. And somebody told

510
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: me they were upstairs and they had their back turn

511
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to the window and they heard this like loud cheer eruption,

512
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: and they turned around and I saw guys running towards Dean,

513
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: and they didn't know what happened, so we had to

514
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: fill them in. It's such an awesome moment. And you

515
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: guys have really been able to to build that camaraderie.

516
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: Having so many people returning next year, it's got to

517
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: even increase that chemistry, that family, that love for one another.

518
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we spend a lot of time together, and

519
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: you don't have to be best friends, but you have

520
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: to respect everybody in here. My job is to create

521
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: a respectful environment for us to learn and to play

522
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and to perform. Now, if we like each other and

523
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: we enjoy coming to work and holding each other accountable

524
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: and doing all those things that we talk about, it

525
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: makes it a lot better. But you don't you don't

526
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: have to be best friends. In this league. There's a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of people that have played and been on successful

528
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: teams that didn't hang out after work. And some guys

529
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: have families, some guys don't. Some guys go out and

530
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: have a couple of beers. Some guys don't. Some guys

531
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: go to Bible, you know, chapel or masks, and some

532
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: guys don't. And we're all different, but we all have

533
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: to believe in that there's nothing more important than the team,

534
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: and we have to try to put the team first.

535
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: So I love coming to work again. The next it's

536
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: not going to be great, like I Jen's gonna be.

537
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Ask him when I go back to work here. Pretty

538
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: soon it gets to that point. And because that's coaching

539
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: without players is not a great life. You know, it's

540
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the reason that your coach is to be around players

541
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: and try to help players. May ask you about one

542
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: more coach, Frank Parino, who you brought in from Boston

543
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: College as your new strength coach the Titans. My twenty

544
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: second year here. It's the least turnover in a coaching

545
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: staff I've ever seen. So the fact that you bring

546
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: in one guy at a key spot like this kind

547
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: of stands out even more. Why was Frank the right choice?

548
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: And what did he add in that offseason program that

549
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: you were looking for. Well, you know, he's a former wrestler,

550
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: so so Frank was a wrestler and you know when

551
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: you're wrestling, if you know wrestlers. He actually came behind

552
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: me in high school. We went to the same high school,

553
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: and our high school was known for wrestling, and you know,

554
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: I was too athletic to wrestle. I played basketball and

555
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: so but my dad, my dad, my dad played basketball

556
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: and he coached basketball, high school basketball coach. And so

557
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: when I got to Walsh, all the guys on the

558
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: football team they were also wrestlers, and they were really good,

559
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: and we'd go to their matches and I mean they

560
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: would just destroy people. And so I was like, father Ryan, Yeah,

561
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean where we beat Saint Ed's and they won

562
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: a national We won a national championship in high school,

563
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: and so I think my sophomore year they didn't have

564
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: a heavyweight and so my best friend was wrestled one

565
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: eighty nine and he said, man, we have to we

566
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: beat everybody, like sixty to six. And so we pin

567
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: everybody or tech fall everybody, but we forfeit the last match.

568
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: And he's like, if you came out, we would teach

569
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: you enough that maybe you know, you could win some

570
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: matches or do whatever, and maybe we could shut somebody out,

571
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: which is very rare. Obviously in wrestling with twelve or

572
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: eleven mat Waits. So I went home and I said, Mom,

573
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Damon name with Damon Williams said, I said, Damon had

574
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: asked me about wrestling, And I'm like, what do you think?

575
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: And she's like, have you ever seen your dad cry?

576
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: And I was like no, and she's like, if you wrestle,

577
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: he'll cry. You don't play basketball, he'll cry. So I

578
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: never end up going to wrestle. But Frank, Frank was

579
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: a wrestler. It came behind me. And where he's come

580
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: from is the same place that I've come from. It

581
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: was with Mickey Maradi and so Mickey MURRADI was at

582
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, then went to Florida and now is at

583
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. And so Frank has worked under him at

584
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and Florida, and then he had his own

585
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: place at Temple and then at Boston College. And when

586
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: you're at Boston College, you don't get a whole lot

587
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: of five stars. As a matter of fact, you don't

588
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: ever get five stars. So wouldn't you deal with your

589
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive lineman. They're usually undersized, they're tall, or

590
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: they're skinny, or they're just they're they're not the pure

591
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: bread six five six six, three hundred and ten pound

592
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: ready made player. You know, these they have to be developed.

593
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: And so what I watched what he was able to do,

594
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: um to develop some of those players that now have

595
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: gone on to the National Football League, and you know,

596
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: even ty Tyler, I felt like, you know, I've always

597
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: had a good relationship with Frank Um. We weren't, you know,

598
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: best friends, but we had a relationship that I knew

599
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: him and we would come visit when I was at

600
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: different places Texans and in Ohio state, and so you know,

601
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: we'd always stayed in contact, and I just felt like

602
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: he was the right move for us UM to continue um,

603
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, growing our our team and developing our team.

604
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun year. I can't wait. We're

605
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna have to wait just a little

606
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: bit though. Now, what do you guys do I'm gonna

607
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: get away. Yeah, I'm getting away. Pigeon Ford, you look

608
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: like a pigeon Forge guy. I do, I do. I love,

609
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: I love I love a good pin Forge trip. I mean,

610
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm not ashamed to say that. Uh that's not no,

611
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, a little little beach a little little so ocean.

612
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not ocean. Yes, but I would do, but

613
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: I would do. There's nothing wrong that, no problem with

614
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Pigeon Forge. Where do you go? What beach? Daytona cooler?

615
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Are you a beach cooler? On the beach? Guy? What

616
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: do you do you pull up? I'm not much in

617
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: the beach game. Sitting there, I get the chairs and

618
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: I like to read and enjoy the breeze and walking

619
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: in the whole hard back paperback or Tradish Yeah I

620
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: knew it was Tradish hard back. Yeah, but I mean

621
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: like to read period. And this is the time. I've

622
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: got a Grisham book that I need to get caught

623
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: up James Patterson at all. Not James Patterson. Um, what's

624
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the other guy's name that I like so much? I've

625
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: got three that I need to catch up on. And

626
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: you try to try to get away from all the

627
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: notes and the computers and stuff like that, and really,

628
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, do some do some real reading and summer

629
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: performances with your son. No, not performances. But he's taking

630
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: some trips and we're gonna have a chance to go

631
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: see him. Okay, he's he's preparing for whatever. The next

632
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: performance that'll be in the fall. Where that will be

633
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: in the fall. That's exactly right. Maybe even a professional

634
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe with a professional that's cool. Man, whoa, he's an actor? Yes? Yes,

635
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: what about you? Aking into the arts, takings Wisconsin Dells,

636
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: the water Park's going to Missouri, going to see my family,

637
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and then I'm taking a vacation. I'm getting out out.

638
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Sent you on the company dime, I mean, how many

639
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: more you want? Well, and that was really great, I

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Speaker 1: mean that was good. But it was a work trip,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was working hard. Now, she really did

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Speaker 1: a good job. I hate to say it, but the

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Speaker 1: piece the pieces that we've already seen from Marcus's background

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Speaker 1: and from where he's from, it's really fascinating and they're

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Speaker 1: lot of work while she was there, along with Mike

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Speaker 1: Dowel and touch you. How long was this said? Trip?

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Speaker 1: Five six days? Yeah, so five days six trip to Hawaii. Well,

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Speaker 1: the last day they taped a bunch of stuff and

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Speaker 1: send it back. You know, hey, look look at this, Mike.

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Speaker 1: We're on the beach. Yea. So we went we went

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Speaker 1: out in the Pro Bowl and Tyler was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think how old he would have been. He

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Speaker 1: would have probably been seven or eight. And it was

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Speaker 1: me Matt Light, Dan Copen, and we wanted to do

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Speaker 1: one of those shark dives where they put you in

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Speaker 1: the cage. They take the boat out there and they

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Speaker 1: start chumming. As soon as the boat pulls up, the

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Speaker 1: sharks just start circling because they know there's it's lunchtime, right,

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Speaker 1: So then they start chumming the water and then these

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Speaker 1: things are all over and they put the cage out

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Speaker 1: there and you dive into water, jump in the water,

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Speaker 1: and they take the cage down and you got goggles

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Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I'm gonna take Tyler. And Jen's

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Speaker 1: like he is not getting in the water, and I'm like, no, no,

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Speaker 1: of course that he's not going. So as soon as

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Speaker 1: we get off there, matt Light's like, Tyler, you're going

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Speaker 1: out in the water. And so Tyler's like all geeked up.

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Speaker 1: Now that's my dad. So we get him in there

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Speaker 1: and we take them down and there's you know, all

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Speaker 1: these mako sharks or whatever they were. But that was

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Speaker 1: that was a good trip to Hawaii. It was fun

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Speaker 1: to take the kids out there. It's beautiful. There lots

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Speaker 1: of good food. I saw one in the Caribbean while

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Speaker 1: I was kayaking with my son. They're like, oh, look

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Speaker 1: there's a shark. It's like you know what you see

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Speaker 1: when you kayak in Hawaii whales. That's cool, that is cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well some of us have never been to Hawaii. Coach

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Speaker 1: Mike's little saltytress. Yeah, he doesn't thank you for doing this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We always we always over so soon. Yeah, well we've

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Speaker 1: got you've got stuff, I know, and I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to you guys about trying to We're gonna get father

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Speaker 1: Ryan behind the crest. There's the that's their broadcasting. We

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Speaker 1: want them, Oh yeah, I want to try to coordinate

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Speaker 1: that and see if we can't get them in here

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Speaker 1: this summer. We love working with future broadcasters absolutely. Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: thank you have a great summer. Thank you, Mike. All right, Amy,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the coach, your girl for the coach

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Speaker 1: for Amy Wells, I'm Mikey. Thanks for joining us for

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Speaker 1: the OTP