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In our show notes, I'm 4 00:00:20,904 --> 00:00:22,064 Speaker 1: John Cipher. 5 00:00:21,664 --> 00:00:22,784 Speaker 2: And I'm Jerry O'Shea. 6 00:00:23,264 --> 00:00:26,544 Speaker 3: We have over sixty years of experience as clandestine officers 7 00:00:26,624 --> 00:00:29,544 Speaker 3: in the CIA, serving in high risk areas all around 8 00:00:29,544 --> 00:00:30,784 Speaker 3: the world, and part. 9 00:00:30,584 --> 00:00:34,504 Speaker 2: Of our job was creating conspiracies to deceive our adversaries. 10 00:00:34,744 --> 00:00:37,504 Speaker 3: Now we're going to use that experience to investigate the 11 00:00:37,504 --> 00:00:40,424 Speaker 3: conspiracy theories everyone's talking about as well as some of 12 00:00:40,424 --> 00:00:41,224 Speaker 3: you may not have heard. 13 00:00:41,304 --> 00:00:43,584 Speaker 2: Could they be true or are we being manipulated? 14 00:00:43,664 --> 00:00:50,744 Speaker 3: We'll find out now on Mission Implausible. It's Today's guest 15 00:00:50,784 --> 00:00:53,864 Speaker 3: is Trey Crowder. He's the liberal redneck. He's a comedian 16 00:00:53,904 --> 00:00:56,704 Speaker 3: with a big following on YouTube and social media and 17 00:00:56,744 --> 00:00:59,504 Speaker 3: the author of several books. He's from rural Tennessee, and 18 00:00:59,544 --> 00:01:01,704 Speaker 3: you can see the dates for his nationwide comedy tour 19 00:01:01,784 --> 00:01:02,704 Speaker 3: on his website. 20 00:01:02,824 --> 00:01:05,544 Speaker 2: So welcome, Trey. So Trey, and we're going to put 21 00:01:05,584 --> 00:01:08,304 Speaker 2: you into the mindset of the CIA. Right. I want 22 00:01:08,344 --> 00:01:10,864 Speaker 2: you to take us through how this conspiracy work. I 23 00:01:10,984 --> 00:01:14,624 Speaker 2: want you to sneak into Congress. I wanted to go 24 00:01:14,744 --> 00:01:18,184 Speaker 2: into a congressional office and I want you to take 25 00:01:18,344 --> 00:01:22,824 Speaker 2: a flag with a swastika on American flag, and I 26 00:01:22,904 --> 00:01:27,264 Speaker 2: want you to pin it behind a professional staffers billboard 27 00:01:27,824 --> 00:01:32,024 Speaker 2: and have him not know because they're claiming this is 28 00:01:32,063 --> 00:01:35,024 Speaker 2: a conspiracy. So looking at it from your point of view, 29 00:01:35,264 --> 00:01:38,104 Speaker 2: how do you do this and who benefits? Who is 30 00:01:38,184 --> 00:01:42,544 Speaker 2: who's really behind the swastika in Congress. 31 00:01:43,024 --> 00:01:46,383 Speaker 4: So I would think that the first part, the hall 32 00:01:46,624 --> 00:01:49,823 Speaker 4: part of that, which is just like getting a Nazi 33 00:01:49,904 --> 00:01:53,463 Speaker 4: American flag onto a congressman's court board in his office, 34 00:01:53,544 --> 00:01:56,904 Speaker 4: probably wouldn't be that hard. From an actual trained CIA operative, 35 00:01:56,984 --> 00:01:58,904 Speaker 4: I would think, you know, you just dress up like 36 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:03,183 Speaker 4: an intern mander in there. Whenever he's like off trying 37 00:02:03,184 --> 00:02:06,424 Speaker 4: to make bedroom eise of some other congressman's intern in 38 00:02:06,464 --> 00:02:08,103 Speaker 4: the hall or whatever, his guy's back turn, you just 39 00:02:08,144 --> 00:02:10,144 Speaker 4: pin it to the court board and go back way. 40 00:02:10,304 --> 00:02:13,144 Speaker 4: But the yeah, the more interesting part is like why 41 00:02:13,184 --> 00:02:17,424 Speaker 4: would you do that, especially to that guy in particular. 42 00:02:17,784 --> 00:02:19,864 Speaker 4: You know, we're talking about a leftist deep state here, 43 00:02:19,904 --> 00:02:23,104 Speaker 4: which is of course the reality is everyone knows it. 44 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:27,104 Speaker 4: Marksis communist deep state that we have operating in this country. 45 00:02:27,424 --> 00:02:32,944 Speaker 4: I guess it would be to somehow show further division 46 00:02:33,064 --> 00:02:37,064 Speaker 4: and make people more to further vilify and demonize these 47 00:02:37,104 --> 00:02:41,464 Speaker 4: good hearted, red blooded Christian Americans that are serving in 48 00:02:41,624 --> 00:02:45,184 Speaker 4: Congress as conservatives. Like that guy whose name already can't 49 00:02:45,224 --> 00:02:47,304 Speaker 4: remember and don't think I knew before it happened? Is 50 00:02:47,304 --> 00:02:48,944 Speaker 4: he Ohio guy? 51 00:02:49,224 --> 00:02:51,024 Speaker 2: Yeah? The congressman is an Ohio guy. 52 00:02:51,264 --> 00:02:55,184 Speaker 4: Right, I don't know why you'd target that guy. You'd 53 00:02:55,224 --> 00:02:57,744 Speaker 4: think you'd go for somebody with a little more of 54 00:02:57,744 --> 00:02:59,384 Speaker 4: a little more presence. 55 00:02:59,584 --> 00:03:03,383 Speaker 2: They're implying that this is a conspiracy theory, right that it. Yeah, 56 00:03:03,464 --> 00:03:06,064 Speaker 2: sometimes the deep leftist state is coming in and done 57 00:03:06,064 --> 00:03:09,744 Speaker 2: this for whatever reason. How does this come across or 58 00:03:09,784 --> 00:03:13,024 Speaker 2: doesn't this come across? And you know where you grow up. 59 00:03:13,424 --> 00:03:14,704 Speaker 4: I think, as much as I hate to say this, 60 00:03:14,784 --> 00:03:18,304 Speaker 4: I mean I think they probably just buy that whatever, 61 00:03:18,624 --> 00:03:20,904 Speaker 4: that somebody at the very least, that somebody is just 62 00:03:20,984 --> 00:03:23,464 Speaker 4: pranking this guy, or that he didn't actually do It's 63 00:03:23,544 --> 00:03:25,664 Speaker 4: essentially just become a matter of like whatever they say, 64 00:03:26,464 --> 00:03:28,184 Speaker 4: you just roll with that. So when they say, like, oh, 65 00:03:28,224 --> 00:03:29,944 Speaker 4: I didn't put up a knot, they'd be crazy. Why 66 00:03:29,984 --> 00:03:31,384 Speaker 4: would I put up a Nazi flag of my own 67 00:03:31,424 --> 00:03:33,824 Speaker 4: off which by the way that is crazy, but like 68 00:03:34,264 --> 00:03:36,504 Speaker 4: he just says they'd be crazy. I wouldn't do that. 69 00:03:36,624 --> 00:03:38,504 Speaker 4: Someone else must have done that. And I think most 70 00:03:38,544 --> 00:03:41,504 Speaker 4: people in like my hometown that love Maga shit or 71 00:03:41,544 --> 00:03:44,864 Speaker 4: whatever just go, yeah, right, that's true. Someone else must 72 00:03:44,864 --> 00:03:45,544 Speaker 4: have done that. 73 00:03:45,544 --> 00:03:48,144 Speaker 2: Because it's not like young Republicans would be putting like 74 00:03:48,344 --> 00:03:50,864 Speaker 2: I love Hitler or anything on chatboards or anything like that. 75 00:03:50,864 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 4: That's what I was actually about to say, because I 76 00:03:52,504 --> 00:03:54,744 Speaker 4: think it's more of a it's easily just as likely, 77 00:03:54,784 --> 00:03:57,664 Speaker 4: which is this is what always happens anytime there's some 78 00:03:57,904 --> 00:04:02,064 Speaker 4: unknown agent provocateur operating with any of this stuff in 79 00:04:02,104 --> 00:04:04,384 Speaker 4: people's minds, or even just like you don't know the 80 00:04:04,424 --> 00:04:07,904 Speaker 4: motivations of a person and they automatically just jump to 81 00:04:08,544 --> 00:04:13,304 Speaker 4: leftist terroristster, leftist saboteur or whatever. But I think it's 82 00:04:13,344 --> 00:04:16,304 Speaker 4: like it wouldn't surprise me at all if that. I'm 83 00:04:16,303 --> 00:04:18,024 Speaker 4: not even trying to give that congressman the benefit of 84 00:04:18,064 --> 00:04:20,424 Speaker 4: the doubt. But the idea that like some intern or 85 00:04:20,464 --> 00:04:24,424 Speaker 4: somebody has on his staff is like some twenty something 86 00:04:24,704 --> 00:04:28,623 Speaker 4: edge lord groyper Nick fuintest fan or whatever, that type 87 00:04:28,664 --> 00:04:32,344 Speaker 4: of guy who like who thinks he'd be funny to 88 00:04:32,584 --> 00:04:34,903 Speaker 4: put that on the courtboard in the Congressman's office. But 89 00:04:34,984 --> 00:04:37,583 Speaker 4: in a I'm spreading the word type of way, or 90 00:04:37,704 --> 00:04:42,223 Speaker 4: like a I'm getting our like tagging, like graffiti artists 91 00:04:42,224 --> 00:04:45,024 Speaker 4: like tag things like tag logos and stuff around town. 92 00:04:45,144 --> 00:04:48,384 Speaker 4: Is almost like a sort of like weird street pr campaign. 93 00:04:48,503 --> 00:04:51,984 Speaker 4: It's like that, but for internet basement dwelling Nazis or whatever. 94 00:04:52,344 --> 00:04:54,224 Speaker 4: Just because he thinks it's funny, he just takes a 95 00:04:54,264 --> 00:04:56,503 Speaker 4: picture of it and post it with the caption, Lol, 96 00:04:56,784 --> 00:05:00,704 Speaker 4: you are gay on their ROYD group message board or whatever. 97 00:05:01,264 --> 00:05:03,224 Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying? It could also be that, 98 00:05:03,503 --> 00:05:06,384 Speaker 4: and that wouldn't surprise me either, So who's to say 99 00:05:06,424 --> 00:05:11,544 Speaker 4: what I'm pretty sure it isn't is? Yeah, the far 100 00:05:11,623 --> 00:05:14,544 Speaker 4: left CIA apparatus. 101 00:05:14,623 --> 00:05:17,583 Speaker 3: For God when I first started, I guess. 102 00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:19,664 Speaker 4: Now, of course, yeah, always you. 103 00:05:19,584 --> 00:05:21,264 Speaker 3: Guys, I don't even know this when you guys are 104 00:05:21,303 --> 00:05:23,024 Speaker 3: like so far ahead of me in terms of the 105 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:25,464 Speaker 3: keeping up with these things. I've been very focused though 106 00:05:25,503 --> 00:05:30,184 Speaker 3: on the RFK talking about how circumcision leads to autism. 107 00:05:30,863 --> 00:05:32,904 Speaker 3: That's where I've been, That's where I've been spending my time. 108 00:05:33,224 --> 00:05:36,544 Speaker 4: I can't even keep up with all of his lunacy 109 00:05:36,623 --> 00:05:38,624 Speaker 4: because the last thing I saw, actually I don't think 110 00:05:38,664 --> 00:05:40,784 Speaker 4: I had seen the circumcision when i'd seen. The last 111 00:05:40,823 --> 00:05:43,183 Speaker 4: thing I saw from him was talking about he said 112 00:05:43,183 --> 00:05:47,104 Speaker 4: that teenage boys have fifty lower sperm count than sixty 113 00:05:47,104 --> 00:05:51,063 Speaker 4: five year old men. Do girls hit puberty six years 114 00:05:51,104 --> 00:05:54,104 Speaker 4: younger than normal, And then he ended it with parents 115 00:05:54,183 --> 00:05:57,863 Speaker 4: aren't having children anymore, which is like, I mean, I 116 00:05:57,863 --> 00:05:59,224 Speaker 4: know what he means, but that's a funny way to 117 00:05:59,224 --> 00:06:02,264 Speaker 4: put that, because it's like, right, well, then you know, 118 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:04,703 Speaker 4: then they're not paid, they're not having children, and they're 119 00:06:04,704 --> 00:06:06,464 Speaker 4: not parents, and if they are parents, then they are 120 00:06:06,503 --> 00:06:09,104 Speaker 4: still having children. So it's just she choose your words better. 121 00:06:09,104 --> 00:06:11,224 Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, he's just always I saw someone say 122 00:06:11,264 --> 00:06:14,104 Speaker 4: about him. If that guy didn't have that job and 123 00:06:14,224 --> 00:06:16,023 Speaker 4: wasn't from like a prominent family, and it was just 124 00:06:16,063 --> 00:06:18,743 Speaker 4: like standing on some random street corner saying most of 125 00:06:18,743 --> 00:06:21,863 Speaker 4: that shit, you'd give him ay away from him. Yeah, right, 126 00:06:21,904 --> 00:06:23,704 Speaker 4: give him a dollar and the can get as far 127 00:06:23,743 --> 00:06:24,904 Speaker 4: away from him as quickly as pod. 128 00:06:25,104 --> 00:06:28,024 Speaker 3: I saw some polling today though, that it's easy to 129 00:06:28,104 --> 00:06:31,024 Speaker 3: laugh at and we know he's a fool. But they 130 00:06:31,063 --> 00:06:33,743 Speaker 3: asked after he said that Tyl and all causes. Whatever 131 00:06:34,024 --> 00:06:37,023 Speaker 3: they pulled. People in a much larger group of people said, oh, yes, 132 00:06:37,104 --> 00:06:39,344 Speaker 3: Tiland all causes. I'm gonna stay away from Tylan. I'll 133 00:06:39,344 --> 00:06:42,583 Speaker 3: cause it. People want someone to look up to to 134 00:06:42,664 --> 00:06:45,424 Speaker 3: tell him things and they listen. And there's people who 135 00:06:45,424 --> 00:06:47,863 Speaker 3: were like completely bought in, of course, But then there's 136 00:06:48,264 --> 00:06:50,263 Speaker 3: there is a group of people who think that you 137 00:06:50,303 --> 00:06:52,303 Speaker 3: know he's in the job. You must know. 138 00:06:52,584 --> 00:06:54,703 Speaker 4: That last group of people you brought up has always 139 00:06:54,704 --> 00:06:56,344 Speaker 4: been so hard for me to wrap my head around, 140 00:06:56,424 --> 00:06:59,144 Speaker 4: like the one group we've already mentioned twice, the ones 141 00:06:59,144 --> 00:07:01,383 Speaker 4: that are for the true believers, the ones that are 142 00:07:01,383 --> 00:07:04,744 Speaker 4: fully bought in, Like, I mean, that's crazy to me too, 143 00:07:04,823 --> 00:07:07,143 Speaker 4: but I just I get it in terms of thinking 144 00:07:07,144 --> 00:07:11,544 Speaker 4: about it as like cultish devotion literally cultish devotion, or 145 00:07:11,584 --> 00:07:15,864 Speaker 4: even just having blinders on in a like favorite sports 146 00:07:15,944 --> 00:07:18,864 Speaker 4: team sort of mentality or whatever. But it's just whatever 147 00:07:19,024 --> 00:07:21,784 Speaker 4: we do and say is right. Because we do and 148 00:07:21,864 --> 00:07:24,584 Speaker 4: say it, then it doesn't nothing else matters. But the 149 00:07:24,664 --> 00:07:29,104 Speaker 4: idea of like regular people who aren't bought in either 150 00:07:29,184 --> 00:07:33,504 Speaker 4: way and just live their lives, but that would see 151 00:07:33,504 --> 00:07:35,664 Speaker 4: some of those statements and be like, this is an 152 00:07:35,664 --> 00:07:39,264 Speaker 4: authority figure, and we should all trust authority figures, including this, 153 00:07:39,544 --> 00:07:43,104 Speaker 4: Like it's wild to me that those people have survived 154 00:07:43,144 --> 00:07:46,104 Speaker 4: in the wild in the current society that we all 155 00:07:46,104 --> 00:07:48,224 Speaker 4: currently live in, Like I totally. I feel like it 156 00:07:48,304 --> 00:07:49,664 Speaker 4: used to be that way for most people for a 157 00:07:49,784 --> 00:07:51,504 Speaker 4: very long time. But it just you would think that 158 00:07:51,504 --> 00:07:54,024 Speaker 4: that's got meaning, Like you know, like everybody brings up 159 00:07:54,024 --> 00:07:55,984 Speaker 4: all the time in the media, like everyone used to 160 00:07:56,024 --> 00:07:58,984 Speaker 4: just inherently trust, like Walter Cronkitite or whatever, and that 161 00:07:59,144 --> 00:08:01,104 Speaker 4: is the way that it should have been. But like 162 00:08:01,264 --> 00:08:03,984 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I don't know how you lived through 163 00:08:04,064 --> 00:08:08,143 Speaker 4: the past ten plus years without realizing that those days 164 00:08:08,184 --> 00:08:11,144 Speaker 4: are over, unfortunately. And I feel like when QAnon was 165 00:08:11,184 --> 00:08:13,824 Speaker 4: first becoming a thing, the entree into it was this 166 00:08:13,904 --> 00:08:17,464 Speaker 4: notion that kids are in danger, like children are being 167 00:08:17,744 --> 00:08:21,304 Speaker 4: sex trafficked and fucking adducted and murdered and all this 168 00:08:21,304 --> 00:08:24,064 Speaker 4: stuff and no one's doing anything about it. I get 169 00:08:24,224 --> 00:08:29,144 Speaker 4: as a parent, I understand hearing that and being like, oh, no, 170 00:08:29,384 --> 00:08:32,504 Speaker 4: that sounds bad. Someone should do something about that, and 171 00:08:32,664 --> 00:08:36,784 Speaker 4: like looking further into it, like I get that very 172 00:08:36,824 --> 00:08:41,184 Speaker 4: first step. What I don't get is that very shortly 173 00:08:41,264 --> 00:08:46,224 Speaker 4: after that you turn the next page and it's like, yeah, 174 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:51,503 Speaker 4: shadowy global cabal of liberal elite vampires spearheaded by Bill 175 00:08:51,544 --> 00:08:54,743 Speaker 4: Gates and Tom Hanks are harvesting blood from infants to 176 00:08:54,784 --> 00:08:56,544 Speaker 4: get the adrena chrome out of it or whatever with 177 00:08:56,544 --> 00:08:59,103 Speaker 4: the help of the Deep State. And whenever you get 178 00:08:59,103 --> 00:09:00,664 Speaker 4: to that page of it, I don't get out. You're like, 179 00:09:00,703 --> 00:09:05,343 Speaker 4: what the f okay? Never mind? That's clearly inside because 180 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:08,304 Speaker 4: I from my perspective, there was no like you did that. 181 00:09:08,984 --> 00:09:11,744 Speaker 4: There was no slow rolling of it that I'm aware of. 182 00:09:11,824 --> 00:09:14,224 Speaker 4: Like where they go. They start with a person, you know, 183 00:09:14,264 --> 00:09:16,304 Speaker 4: it starts with like, kids are in danger. Don't you 184 00:09:16,343 --> 00:09:18,383 Speaker 4: care about kids? Of course I do? And then they 185 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:24,264 Speaker 4: like very gradually walk you through this progressively crazier development 186 00:09:24,864 --> 00:09:27,703 Speaker 4: or explanation of what's going on. It Never it didn't 187 00:09:27,703 --> 00:09:29,664 Speaker 4: seem that way to me. It seemed like it was like, oh, 188 00:09:29,744 --> 00:09:31,544 Speaker 4: kids are in danger, don't you care about that? Yeah? 189 00:09:31,544 --> 00:09:34,064 Speaker 4: I do, what's going on? And then straight to the 190 00:09:34,144 --> 00:09:35,824 Speaker 4: global cabal and all that. 191 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:37,984 Speaker 2: Kids are in danger. That would be something that you 192 00:09:37,984 --> 00:09:40,984 Speaker 2: think you could really around, like young girls are in danger, right, 193 00:09:41,304 --> 00:09:43,944 Speaker 2: but now today, when the shoe is on the other foot, 194 00:09:44,223 --> 00:09:46,503 Speaker 2: kids are in danger the Epstein files. Yeah, we've got 195 00:09:46,544 --> 00:09:49,144 Speaker 2: to do something. I gotta do something. Yeah, And then 196 00:09:49,223 --> 00:09:52,583 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, some really senior people in the 197 00:09:52,583 --> 00:09:54,703 Speaker 2: manga movement are like, yeah, nothing to see here, move on. 198 00:09:55,064 --> 00:09:58,784 Speaker 2: The great Leader has spoken, right, and no he didn't 199 00:09:58,784 --> 00:10:02,424 Speaker 2: do the raunchy birthday card with the pubic care right, Like, well, yeah, okay, 200 00:10:02,463 --> 00:10:07,383 Speaker 2: maybe so some of this verges on I'm really on principles, right, 201 00:10:07,424 --> 00:10:11,864 Speaker 2: It's just like in or or the absence thereof oh, 202 00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:14,064 Speaker 2: the absence there are. But yeah, no, so young girls 203 00:10:14,064 --> 00:10:16,384 Speaker 2: are in danger. We got to do something about it. 204 00:10:16,463 --> 00:10:21,424 Speaker 2: In theory, okay, But then when it's announced that Trump 205 00:10:21,504 --> 00:10:23,624 Speaker 2: is in the files and who else is in the files? 206 00:10:23,624 --> 00:10:27,024 Speaker 2: All his friends and I don't care, Democrat, Republican, whatever, 207 00:10:27,064 --> 00:10:28,904 Speaker 2: but it's yeah, no, we're not gonna we're not going 208 00:10:28,984 --> 00:10:31,424 Speaker 2: to pursue that anymore. The head of the FBI was 209 00:10:31,424 --> 00:10:33,984 Speaker 2: the one singing this, right, and the deputy Dann Dongino. 210 00:10:33,984 --> 00:10:37,463 Speaker 2: They made a career out of this. Again, it's if 211 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:39,304 Speaker 2: you go back to the Nazi times, it's fasciled, but 212 00:10:39,343 --> 00:10:43,104 Speaker 2: it's like the Bolsheviks are the big problem. They're evil. 213 00:10:43,103 --> 00:10:44,744 Speaker 2: And then there's the hit with Styalin pick. No, we 214 00:10:44,784 --> 00:10:46,544 Speaker 2: can get along with them. They're fine, and then they're 215 00:10:46,544 --> 00:10:46,983 Speaker 2: not again. 216 00:10:47,664 --> 00:10:48,343 Speaker 4: Yeah. 217 00:10:48,024 --> 00:10:51,184 Speaker 2: The control of what people's principles are is something that 218 00:10:51,223 --> 00:10:54,784 Speaker 2: I find difficult to understand. I mean, either you believe 219 00:10:54,824 --> 00:10:55,904 Speaker 2: something or you don't. 220 00:10:55,664 --> 00:11:01,904 Speaker 4: Write and that example in particular. Very briefly, I did 221 00:11:01,904 --> 00:11:03,904 Speaker 4: get the impression that when that first happened, and by 222 00:11:03,944 --> 00:11:08,024 Speaker 4: that when BONDI and then like first announced nothing to 223 00:11:08,064 --> 00:11:10,904 Speaker 4: see here, there is no real Epstein list and nothing 224 00:11:10,904 --> 00:11:13,103 Speaker 4: else is going to happen, so everybody just forget about it. 225 00:11:13,343 --> 00:11:17,944 Speaker 4: There was like definitely at least some backlash from like 226 00:11:18,624 --> 00:11:21,304 Speaker 4: people on the right to mag of people little bit 227 00:11:21,504 --> 00:11:24,064 Speaker 4: quan up like and when that first happened, I was like, 228 00:11:24,944 --> 00:11:27,064 Speaker 4: I was still. Don't get me wrong, I was skeptical 229 00:11:27,184 --> 00:11:30,864 Speaker 4: the whole time. I thought that this what appears to 230 00:11:30,904 --> 00:11:34,463 Speaker 4: have happened, that it would eventually happen. But still at 231 00:11:34,463 --> 00:11:36,983 Speaker 4: the very beginning, I was like, okay, so we did 232 00:11:36,984 --> 00:11:40,703 Speaker 4: we finally find it? Like it there is still a 233 00:11:40,744 --> 00:11:42,944 Speaker 4: line like a line in the sand that can be 234 00:11:42,984 --> 00:11:45,104 Speaker 4: crossed them and this is it, this is actually it, 235 00:11:45,144 --> 00:11:47,863 Speaker 4: because that would be nice if we finally found it. 236 00:11:48,504 --> 00:11:50,824 Speaker 4: But yeah, it I think that a lot of them. 237 00:11:51,024 --> 00:11:52,944 Speaker 4: I don't know. That was just it was too much 238 00:11:52,944 --> 00:11:55,264 Speaker 4: to ask for them to just immediately pretend like they 239 00:11:55,264 --> 00:11:57,264 Speaker 4: didn't to go from being like this is the most 240 00:11:57,264 --> 00:11:59,384 Speaker 4: important thing ever in the history of this country to 241 00:11:59,544 --> 00:12:02,144 Speaker 4: like nothing to see here was too much to ask 242 00:12:02,184 --> 00:12:03,623 Speaker 4: it for even for them, but not all of them. 243 00:12:03,664 --> 00:12:05,624 Speaker 4: Some of them like literally flipped on a dime, no 244 00:12:05,703 --> 00:12:07,664 Speaker 4: problem whatsoever. But for a lot of them, that was 245 00:12:07,703 --> 00:12:10,383 Speaker 4: too much to ask. But just stress it out, just 246 00:12:10,904 --> 00:12:11,504 Speaker 4: keep going. 247 00:12:12,024 --> 00:12:13,544 Speaker 3: It's too hard to leave the team. 248 00:12:13,944 --> 00:12:15,944 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't leave the tame and you get enough 249 00:12:16,064 --> 00:12:18,024 Speaker 4: other things to get mad about. Do you let time 250 00:12:18,064 --> 00:12:21,424 Speaker 4: pass and you can just sort of without ever openly 251 00:12:21,703 --> 00:12:25,544 Speaker 4: betraying your own principles in that matter or publicly doing it, 252 00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:28,704 Speaker 4: you can just eventually ignore it and go back to 253 00:12:28,784 --> 00:12:32,904 Speaker 4: the being incensed about trans people and immigrants and all 254 00:12:32,944 --> 00:12:35,544 Speaker 4: that shit or whatever and just not talk about it anymore. 255 00:12:35,624 --> 00:12:37,984 Speaker 4: And that seems to be what they've done. 256 00:12:38,103 --> 00:12:40,304 Speaker 3: Well, Tray, you seem to have a real understanding and 257 00:12:40,343 --> 00:12:43,984 Speaker 3: work with from Tennessee and the South. So can you 258 00:12:43,984 --> 00:12:46,824 Speaker 3: talk to me a little bit about Southern culture, the 259 00:12:46,944 --> 00:12:50,463 Speaker 3: sort of military football tough guy people are heroes, I 260 00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:52,024 Speaker 3: mean it seems to me like Ice is like a 261 00:12:52,024 --> 00:12:55,223 Speaker 3: perfect metaphor for what Southern men want if they get 262 00:12:55,223 --> 00:12:57,824 Speaker 3: to dress up like warriors and beat up on weak people, 263 00:12:57,904 --> 00:13:01,824 Speaker 3: Like what is it about the self that like as 264 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:04,224 Speaker 3: early as the fifties and sixties started to switch over 265 00:13:04,904 --> 00:13:08,784 Speaker 3: to be very conservative and then eventually probably even more 266 00:13:08,824 --> 00:13:10,664 Speaker 3: like Maggie, we. 267 00:13:10,583 --> 00:13:14,424 Speaker 4: Were talking about that particular aspect and hypermasculinity and getting 268 00:13:14,463 --> 00:13:17,784 Speaker 4: to do Robb Ross shit and be a badass and 269 00:13:17,784 --> 00:13:19,664 Speaker 4: all that. I think it was definitely a lot of 270 00:13:19,664 --> 00:13:22,184 Speaker 4: that was always there, at least in my experience, you know. 271 00:13:22,223 --> 00:13:24,184 Speaker 4: I mean I was a kid in the nineties and everything, 272 00:13:24,223 --> 00:13:28,024 Speaker 4: and it was still there. That was still especially like football, 273 00:13:28,343 --> 00:13:30,904 Speaker 4: being a badass, all that was always part of it. 274 00:13:31,424 --> 00:13:33,024 Speaker 4: A lot of guys joined the military. A lot of 275 00:13:33,024 --> 00:13:36,704 Speaker 4: that was also like predatory recruitment practices focused on like 276 00:13:36,784 --> 00:13:39,664 Speaker 4: poverty stricken places. You didn't have a lot of options. 277 00:13:39,184 --> 00:13:41,384 Speaker 5: And plus you get a sweet ass charger out of 278 00:13:41,384 --> 00:13:44,064 Speaker 5: the deal, so it was very effective. 279 00:13:44,064 --> 00:13:46,264 Speaker 4: I had a lot of friends that did that. But 280 00:13:46,904 --> 00:13:48,904 Speaker 4: at the same time though, and I don't know where 281 00:13:48,984 --> 00:13:52,344 Speaker 4: Ice fits into this, because they're mostly only doing it 282 00:13:52,424 --> 00:13:54,863 Speaker 4: to brown people, so that's maybe different. But like I've 283 00:13:54,864 --> 00:13:56,544 Speaker 4: talked a lot about, and it's true, and I have 284 00:13:57,384 --> 00:13:59,944 Speaker 4: examples I can point to to prove it. But even 285 00:13:59,944 --> 00:14:02,184 Speaker 4: when I was a kid in the nineties, like Cops, 286 00:14:02,223 --> 00:14:05,784 Speaker 4: so not just cops, but also just authority figures, the government, 287 00:14:06,264 --> 00:14:09,864 Speaker 4: all of that was not shit that these peo people 288 00:14:10,463 --> 00:14:12,544 Speaker 4: liked or cheered on or were on board with. So 289 00:14:12,744 --> 00:14:17,224 Speaker 4: like the whole NASCAR, which is hugely popular amongst rednecks, 290 00:14:17,264 --> 00:14:21,064 Speaker 4: was literally like founded by like moonshiners running from the 291 00:14:21,064 --> 00:14:24,064 Speaker 4: cops and shit and smoking the bandit the dukes of hazard, 292 00:14:24,344 --> 00:14:26,984 Speaker 4: like just running from the law as a time honored 293 00:14:27,144 --> 00:14:33,904 Speaker 4: redneck tradition. There's like every other episode of Cops has 294 00:14:33,944 --> 00:14:36,984 Speaker 4: got redneck shit going on in it. They're like natural enemies, 295 00:14:37,024 --> 00:14:38,824 Speaker 4: or at least they were. But also, like I said, 296 00:14:38,984 --> 00:14:41,824 Speaker 4: just the government and the fuck and it also like 297 00:14:42,304 --> 00:14:45,424 Speaker 4: rich people, the bank man I can come and taking 298 00:14:45,464 --> 00:14:49,264 Speaker 4: your property, or like the company men, and like coal 299 00:14:49,304 --> 00:14:52,344 Speaker 4: miners and the union fights and that type of shit 300 00:14:52,464 --> 00:14:55,704 Speaker 4: and all this stuff that used to matter. And even 301 00:14:55,744 --> 00:14:57,744 Speaker 4: I'm a big Tennessee Vaults fan. And then we do 302 00:14:58,224 --> 00:15:00,304 Speaker 4: Rocky Top is the state song of Tennessee, and they 303 00:15:00,344 --> 00:15:03,104 Speaker 4: sing it at the football games. And then there's a 304 00:15:03,184 --> 00:15:06,224 Speaker 4: line in that song sounds innocuous or whatever, but says, 305 00:15:07,664 --> 00:15:11,744 Speaker 4: once two strangers climbed all Rocky Top looking for a moonshine, 306 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:15,864 Speaker 4: Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Top and reckon 307 00:15:15,904 --> 00:15:16,744 Speaker 4: they never will. 308 00:15:17,184 --> 00:15:21,624 Speaker 5: Funkste strangers climb no Rocky Top looking for a moonshine. 309 00:15:21,704 --> 00:15:28,064 Speaker 3: Still strangers ain't come down from Rocky Copy, never will 310 00:15:29,424 --> 00:15:29,984 Speaker 3: Rocky up. 311 00:15:30,544 --> 00:15:31,263 Speaker 6: You know. 312 00:15:41,464 --> 00:15:46,984 Speaker 5: Rock Those are about like federal agents going up there 313 00:15:46,984 --> 00:15:48,864 Speaker 5: and looking to shut people's like moonshine. 314 00:15:48,864 --> 00:15:49,664 Speaker 7: Still found ain't. 315 00:15:49,504 --> 00:15:52,104 Speaker 3: Getting there's a rebel culture against. 316 00:15:51,944 --> 00:15:55,264 Speaker 4: Right, but now there anymore no that, And that's I'm saying. 317 00:15:55,264 --> 00:15:56,544 Speaker 4: Even when I was a kid in the nineties, all 318 00:15:56,584 --> 00:15:59,344 Speaker 4: that was there, that's fucked the man kind of mentality 319 00:15:59,384 --> 00:16:02,504 Speaker 4: type we're on our own type of thing. And now 320 00:16:02,504 --> 00:16:06,984 Speaker 4: they're all like boot lickers, like straight up boot lickers, 321 00:16:07,024 --> 00:16:10,424 Speaker 4: and it's weird again. The military was all they always 322 00:16:10,464 --> 00:16:13,824 Speaker 4: liked they back then. They definitely supported the troops, especially 323 00:16:13,864 --> 00:16:17,464 Speaker 4: I was fifteen when nine to eleven happened, especially after 324 00:16:17,584 --> 00:16:21,264 Speaker 4: nine to eleven, of course, but that didn't extend to 325 00:16:22,144 --> 00:16:25,304 Speaker 4: like I said, any type of like cops or like 326 00:16:25,664 --> 00:16:29,184 Speaker 4: fed cops or FEDS or any of that. No, definitely not. 327 00:16:29,384 --> 00:16:31,464 Speaker 4: And now they'll, uh, I mean, obviously the FED thing 328 00:16:31,504 --> 00:16:34,384 Speaker 4: is weird because you whatever, because now the deep state 329 00:16:34,464 --> 00:16:36,383 Speaker 4: is lefty shit or however any of that works. I 330 00:16:36,424 --> 00:16:38,383 Speaker 4: don't know. It's all confusing, but yes, there used to 331 00:16:38,384 --> 00:16:42,504 Speaker 4: be rebellious and have ish not cowtow to authority at all, 332 00:16:42,544 --> 00:16:45,064 Speaker 4: and that type of thing. And now they're all lining 333 00:16:45,144 --> 00:16:46,944 Speaker 4: up to lick the boots and stuff and they put 334 00:16:46,984 --> 00:16:50,464 Speaker 4: like thin blue line punisher stickers on the back of 335 00:16:50,504 --> 00:16:53,064 Speaker 4: their jacked up trucks and shit. And it's weird to me. 336 00:16:53,184 --> 00:16:55,424 Speaker 4: I've thought it was again. I've talked about this a 337 00:16:55,424 --> 00:16:57,104 Speaker 4: ton over, I've had stand up bits about it, I've 338 00:16:57,104 --> 00:17:00,304 Speaker 4: made videos about it. I find it to be very odd, 339 00:17:00,664 --> 00:17:03,984 Speaker 4: and I don't really have an explanation for it outside 340 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 4: of just that side getting framed in opposition to the 341 00:17:09,664 --> 00:17:13,144 Speaker 4: side of black and brown people and queer people and 342 00:17:13,184 --> 00:17:15,424 Speaker 4: all that type of stuff, which is like they were 343 00:17:15,544 --> 00:17:19,344 Speaker 4: more put off by all that when they were the 344 00:17:19,384 --> 00:17:21,504 Speaker 4: other thing. But outside of that, I don't know. 345 00:17:21,704 --> 00:17:24,584 Speaker 2: So related to that, maybe John can jump into a 346 00:17:24,664 --> 00:17:27,224 Speaker 2: CIA officers. We dealt a lot with Russians, and we 347 00:17:27,304 --> 00:17:28,864 Speaker 2: used to know him as the Soviets, and they had 348 00:17:28,864 --> 00:17:31,664 Speaker 2: the red flag with a hammer and sickle, and then 349 00:17:32,064 --> 00:17:34,504 Speaker 2: the Sovietan's over and they brought back a lot of 350 00:17:34,544 --> 00:17:38,504 Speaker 2: the Tsarist iconography, the Tsarist eagles big and the old 351 00:17:38,544 --> 00:17:41,784 Speaker 2: Tsaris flag has come big. And I remember saying to 352 00:17:41,824 --> 00:17:43,784 Speaker 2: one of them is, I don't get it. You've got 353 00:17:43,824 --> 00:17:47,944 Speaker 2: all this Tsarist shit, but you've also still got lots 354 00:17:47,984 --> 00:17:51,824 Speaker 2: of like Soviet iconography. You still got hammers and sickles 355 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:53,824 Speaker 2: and all that and there. And I'm like, I was like, 356 00:17:54,064 --> 00:17:58,304 Speaker 2: the Bolsheviks killed the whole Tsaris family to murdered that 357 00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:00,664 Speaker 2: whole class, and yet you're celebrating both of them at 358 00:18:00,704 --> 00:18:03,504 Speaker 2: the same time. I don't get it. And then he 359 00:18:03,544 --> 00:18:05,944 Speaker 2: looked at me and said, you guys, you fly you 360 00:18:06,624 --> 00:18:09,184 Speaker 2: fly the Dixie flag, right yeah. Like it was like 361 00:18:09,264 --> 00:18:12,144 Speaker 2: so he's like, what's the difference, And I'm like, I don't. 362 00:18:12,024 --> 00:18:15,904 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, but the thing is what the example he 363 00:18:16,024 --> 00:18:20,104 Speaker 4: used about us like that also is stupid, so like that, 364 00:18:23,864 --> 00:18:26,664 Speaker 4: but that's to me, that sounds like like when people 365 00:18:27,664 --> 00:18:29,704 Speaker 4: a version of whenever you're like, I think fast food 366 00:18:29,704 --> 00:18:32,144 Speaker 4: workers should be paid more generally, and then somebody will 367 00:18:32,184 --> 00:18:34,264 Speaker 4: be like, really, you think somebody flipping burgers should be 368 00:18:34,264 --> 00:18:36,904 Speaker 4: paid this much When I'm an EMT and I make 369 00:18:36,984 --> 00:18:41,224 Speaker 4: three dollars less than that, that's bullshit. And it's like, yeah, no, 370 00:18:41,304 --> 00:18:43,584 Speaker 4: I think that you both should be paid more. Like 371 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:45,864 Speaker 4: you also are being screwed up. You should be paid 372 00:18:45,904 --> 00:18:46,224 Speaker 4: more too. 373 00:18:46,264 --> 00:18:48,024 Speaker 5: I think I don't know why you automatically assume I 374 00:18:48,064 --> 00:18:50,464 Speaker 5: think that I want you to lose this scenario. 375 00:18:51,904 --> 00:18:55,904 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's also stupid when people fly the Confederate 376 00:18:55,904 --> 00:18:57,944 Speaker 4: flag of the American flag all Like, I agree with 377 00:18:57,984 --> 00:19:00,504 Speaker 4: you about that. I've had stand up bits about that too, 378 00:19:00,584 --> 00:19:03,704 Speaker 4: about the ironic nature of that whole thing, because yeah, 379 00:19:03,784 --> 00:19:05,984 Speaker 4: that makes no sense whatsoever. 380 00:19:19,304 --> 00:19:20,864 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a little bit about how you 381 00:19:20,904 --> 00:19:23,664 Speaker 3: come up with stuff, because for people who haven't listened 382 00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:25,544 Speaker 3: to Trey, I would encourage you to find them on 383 00:19:25,584 --> 00:19:29,024 Speaker 3: social media Instagram, go to his shows, go to his website. 384 00:19:29,504 --> 00:19:32,224 Speaker 3: But you come up with these really clever like quips 385 00:19:32,264 --> 00:19:34,024 Speaker 3: and it looks like you're riffing. 386 00:19:34,224 --> 00:19:35,984 Speaker 4: So now I like, I'll tell. So what I'll do 387 00:19:36,024 --> 00:19:37,424 Speaker 4: is I'll tell I'll just I just sit here and 388 00:19:37,504 --> 00:19:39,224 Speaker 4: think about one of the things that I think are 389 00:19:39,864 --> 00:19:42,144 Speaker 4: absurd or stupid about this or whatever, and I'll make 390 00:19:42,184 --> 00:19:45,384 Speaker 4: little bullet points and a notepad or what not, whatnot, 391 00:19:45,424 --> 00:19:47,384 Speaker 4: and then I'll just start actually riffing on it, but 392 00:19:47,464 --> 00:19:50,704 Speaker 4: just to myself, but out loud, sitting round here in 393 00:19:50,744 --> 00:19:53,784 Speaker 4: this office usually, and just do that a few times 394 00:19:53,824 --> 00:19:57,264 Speaker 4: until it's sort of where I think, Okay, that's about 395 00:19:57,304 --> 00:19:58,824 Speaker 4: that's pretty much it, and then I just go out 396 00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,023 Speaker 4: to the jeep and just type it. 397 00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:03,064 Speaker 3: I liked when you were talking about Hegesith, when he 398 00:20:03,144 --> 00:20:05,544 Speaker 3: called in all the generals and admirals. You called him 399 00:20:05,784 --> 00:20:09,064 Speaker 3: General Patton himself on the back, talking about the rules 400 00:20:09,064 --> 00:20:11,424 Speaker 3: of engage are more like rules of gay shit. 401 00:20:12,784 --> 00:20:14,744 Speaker 5: I want you to draft a memo to military leadership, 402 00:20:14,784 --> 00:20:16,304 Speaker 5: tell them they all gotta come here for a meeting 403 00:20:16,304 --> 00:20:18,464 Speaker 5: on the thirtieth, Yes, sir, And what should I say 404 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:21,744 Speaker 5: is the purpose of this unprecedented and clearly vitally important 405 00:20:21,784 --> 00:20:24,304 Speaker 5: meeting so I could talk mad shit and get everybody 406 00:20:24,344 --> 00:20:26,144 Speaker 5: hype as fuck, bro, that's what. 407 00:20:26,344 --> 00:20:27,424 Speaker 7: Don't tell him that though, I want it to be 408 00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:27,904 Speaker 7: a surprise. 409 00:20:28,104 --> 00:20:30,664 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go set deaf jam on these bitches 410 00:20:30,704 --> 00:20:32,704 Speaker 5: that don't say that sounded super black. 411 00:20:32,704 --> 00:20:34,064 Speaker 7: I don't know why I said. It's could be sweet 412 00:20:34,064 --> 00:20:34,384 Speaker 7: as fuck. 413 00:20:34,424 --> 00:20:36,984 Speaker 5: Put put that in the memo, say attendance is mandatory, 414 00:20:37,104 --> 00:20:38,584 Speaker 5: but it will be sweet as fuck though. 415 00:20:38,864 --> 00:20:41,384 Speaker 7: Signed Hegg's dog right. He was very into it. 416 00:20:41,384 --> 00:20:41,544 Speaker 3: You know. 417 00:20:41,584 --> 00:20:43,424 Speaker 5: He had the American flag up there behind him, and 418 00:20:43,464 --> 00:20:46,064 Speaker 5: I guess so General patting himself on the back must 419 00:20:46,104 --> 00:20:48,504 Speaker 5: have hit a gas mask bong filled with his own 420 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:51,144 Speaker 5: farts before he got started, because he was feeling himself. 421 00:20:51,184 --> 00:20:53,904 Speaker 7: Boy, he get up there like, all right, first things first, 422 00:20:53,984 --> 00:20:56,224 Speaker 7: kick ass and rip shit. That's what we do. It's 423 00:20:56,224 --> 00:20:58,224 Speaker 7: starting today. We're going to old school, right. I don't 424 00:20:58,224 --> 00:20:59,624 Speaker 7: want to hear any more of this. Woe cass oo. 425 00:20:59,784 --> 00:21:03,224 Speaker 5: Did you need a convention MS to view occasional with 426 00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:05,944 Speaker 5: these bullshit? I got rules of engagement more like rules 427 00:21:05,944 --> 00:21:07,984 Speaker 5: of engay shit, war crimes. 428 00:21:07,984 --> 00:21:09,544 Speaker 7: Give me more crimes, That's what I say. 429 00:21:09,544 --> 00:21:12,984 Speaker 5: Thereck come, motherfucker lighting shit ups in seventeen seventy six, bitch. Also, 430 00:21:13,464 --> 00:21:16,904 Speaker 5: no more fatties, no sir. Starting today, we're all gonna 431 00:21:16,904 --> 00:21:18,704 Speaker 5: be ripped as hell. We're gonna train him in May 432 00:21:18,824 --> 00:21:20,704 Speaker 5: and we're painting flames and all the tanks. It's gonna 433 00:21:20,704 --> 00:21:23,544 Speaker 5: be fucking sick. We're gonna have tight ass haircuts, perfectly 434 00:21:23,544 --> 00:21:25,744 Speaker 5: shaved jaw lines. And note that's not because I can't 435 00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:27,544 Speaker 5: grow a good beard. I don't want it reported that 436 00:21:27,584 --> 00:21:29,464 Speaker 5: that last thing is because I can't grow a good beard. 437 00:21:30,424 --> 00:21:32,504 Speaker 4: I liked that one because that one was a little 438 00:21:32,544 --> 00:21:35,504 Speaker 4: bit different for me, because it was mostly most of 439 00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:38,263 Speaker 4: that video was me pretending to be in character as 440 00:21:38,304 --> 00:21:40,504 Speaker 4: Pete Hegseth and just doing this like over the top, 441 00:21:40,584 --> 00:21:44,664 Speaker 4: super frat browie address to the military address or whatever, 442 00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:46,624 Speaker 4: and so like he's put himself in front of a 443 00:21:46,664 --> 00:21:50,384 Speaker 4: gigantic American flag. The first thing I think most people 444 00:21:50,464 --> 00:21:52,064 Speaker 4: think of, because I grew up in my dad's video 445 00:21:52,064 --> 00:21:54,384 Speaker 4: store as a kid, so I was a big movie 446 00:21:54,384 --> 00:21:57,304 Speaker 4: guy and stuff. I don't think of Paton immediately. And 447 00:21:57,344 --> 00:22:00,104 Speaker 4: then from there he literally talked about rules of engagement 448 00:22:00,104 --> 00:22:01,904 Speaker 4: in real life. He said, so, we're not gonna be 449 00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:04,584 Speaker 4: like bound by rules of it, and he set it 450 00:22:04,624 --> 00:22:05,984 Speaker 4: to kind of smart me, Well, like we're not gonna 451 00:22:05,984 --> 00:22:08,264 Speaker 4: be bound by these rules of engagement or whatever, and 452 00:22:08,304 --> 00:22:10,744 Speaker 4: so then and so he he really did say that 453 00:22:10,864 --> 00:22:13,504 Speaker 4: his actual address that he gave I basically in my head, 454 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:15,184 Speaker 4: I was like, and I don't even remember right now. 455 00:22:15,224 --> 00:22:16,464 Speaker 4: I'd have to go back and look at it. What 456 00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:19,664 Speaker 4: the lit But it was like a list of things 457 00:22:19,664 --> 00:22:21,624 Speaker 4: that he covered or topics he went into that I 458 00:22:21,664 --> 00:22:24,944 Speaker 4: thought were particularly wild or crazy. 459 00:22:25,104 --> 00:22:27,264 Speaker 2: I was wondering, if you do this for like Portland, 460 00:22:27,464 --> 00:22:31,064 Speaker 2: so instead of showing up with slingshots and you know, 461 00:22:31,144 --> 00:22:34,744 Speaker 2: and Molotov cocktails, they're showing up in dinosaur costumes and 462 00:22:34,824 --> 00:22:38,664 Speaker 2: floud costumes. And what's your take on pushing back on 463 00:22:38,744 --> 00:22:42,384 Speaker 2: authoritarianism but using absurdity? Almost Dada isn't if you will? 464 00:22:42,584 --> 00:22:44,344 Speaker 4: As of right now, unless something else happens, I think 465 00:22:44,384 --> 00:22:46,024 Speaker 4: the next video I do is probably going to be 466 00:22:46,064 --> 00:22:48,544 Speaker 4: about this, because I've been thinking because I've just been 467 00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:51,704 Speaker 4: loving all the Portland stuff or whatever, and it's I 468 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,224 Speaker 4: feel like Trump's all launching the fascist takeover whatever in 469 00:22:55,264 --> 00:22:58,504 Speaker 4: Portland particularly is probably gonna end up being a mistake, 470 00:22:58,664 --> 00:23:02,944 Speaker 4: I hope, because of this exact thing, because like I think, 471 00:23:03,224 --> 00:23:07,704 Speaker 4: I think that they're handling it perfectly because uske hows 472 00:23:07,744 --> 00:23:11,544 Speaker 4: it come across a broader audience nowadays, Who the hell knows? 473 00:23:11,544 --> 00:23:14,664 Speaker 4: But I feel like the main narrative that trumping them 474 00:23:14,744 --> 00:23:19,144 Speaker 4: uses that these are like war torn hellscapes, these cities 475 00:23:19,184 --> 00:23:24,424 Speaker 4: that are torn apart by liberal terrorists and criminals run 476 00:23:24,424 --> 00:23:26,904 Speaker 4: them up because the blue leaders don't have the balls 477 00:23:27,024 --> 00:23:31,024 Speaker 4: necessary to keep them in control. And someone's got to 478 00:23:31,064 --> 00:23:33,584 Speaker 4: go in there and clean these streets up, right, And 479 00:23:33,744 --> 00:23:35,664 Speaker 4: like Pat Ball's hear that on fat Fox News and 480 00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:37,184 Speaker 4: they're like, ah, someone doesn't to go in there and 481 00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:39,664 Speaker 4: clean these streets up. So Fox News shows up or 482 00:23:39,704 --> 00:23:42,984 Speaker 4: whoever Newsmax and any of them, trying to get footage 483 00:23:43,024 --> 00:23:45,624 Speaker 4: of this that they can use to further fearmonger with. 484 00:23:46,464 --> 00:23:48,904 Speaker 4: And it's like a guy in a frog suit and 485 00:23:48,904 --> 00:23:52,824 Speaker 4: an inflatable t rex fucking playing hopscotch or whatever in 486 00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:55,664 Speaker 4: front of these in front of these like Stormtrooper guys. 487 00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,984 Speaker 4: I feel like, no matter how brainwashed by any of 488 00:23:59,024 --> 00:24:02,144 Speaker 4: this propaganda, you are like, there's no way to spend 489 00:24:02,184 --> 00:24:07,144 Speaker 4: that as like these these guys' lives are endangered from 490 00:24:07,224 --> 00:24:12,144 Speaker 4: these anthropomorphic cartoon character. There's no way. It's just not scary. 491 00:24:12,264 --> 00:24:13,944 Speaker 4: I feel like anyone, I don't care how deep in 492 00:24:13,984 --> 00:24:15,744 Speaker 4: all that you are, you see that footage and you 493 00:24:15,784 --> 00:24:19,424 Speaker 4: go like, I don't know, it doesn't seem like it's 494 00:24:19,904 --> 00:24:22,784 Speaker 4: that much of a war zone. Feels more like who 495 00:24:22,824 --> 00:24:26,424 Speaker 4: framed Roger rabbit to me, but so yeah, I'm all 496 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:29,464 Speaker 4: for it. Actually had a on my last special there's 497 00:24:29,464 --> 00:24:31,344 Speaker 4: a bit about even before any of this ever happened, 498 00:24:31,464 --> 00:24:33,984 Speaker 4: just about Portland in general, and about how they have 499 00:24:34,064 --> 00:24:37,344 Speaker 4: this very strange dynamic at play in their heads when 500 00:24:37,344 --> 00:24:39,664 Speaker 4: it comes to places like Portland or just the far left, 501 00:24:39,664 --> 00:24:42,504 Speaker 4: where it's like they boat on the one hand, they 502 00:24:42,504 --> 00:24:45,024 Speaker 4: think Portland is nothing but just a bunch of efaciated 503 00:24:45,104 --> 00:24:48,024 Speaker 4: baristas with a handlebar mustache or whatever, you know what 504 00:24:48,024 --> 00:24:51,704 Speaker 4: I mean. But on the other hand, they're like Antifa 505 00:24:51,864 --> 00:24:54,744 Speaker 4: super commandos, you know what I mean. And it's both 506 00:24:54,784 --> 00:24:58,304 Speaker 4: at the same time, and it's it's just inherently ridiculous. 507 00:24:58,344 --> 00:25:00,424 Speaker 4: And I said, and I said back then, I was like, 508 00:25:00,424 --> 00:25:02,224 Speaker 4: if you think about it, you should be afraid of 509 00:25:02,224 --> 00:25:04,784 Speaker 4: those people, really, even if that is what they are, 510 00:25:04,864 --> 00:25:06,744 Speaker 4: because I was like, imagine you're in the middle of 511 00:25:06,784 --> 00:25:09,384 Speaker 4: some full fledged riot or whatever, and then out of 512 00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:13,424 Speaker 4: the smoke bomb haze comes with them comes some motherfucker 513 00:25:13,504 --> 00:25:15,944 Speaker 4: dress up like a haberdasher riding one of those big 514 00:25:15,984 --> 00:25:19,224 Speaker 4: front wheel bicycles or whatever, and you're gonna try to 515 00:25:19,264 --> 00:25:21,384 Speaker 4: make fun of that guy. I how you get choked 516 00:25:21,384 --> 00:25:23,744 Speaker 4: out with a pocket watch chain. That's what I said 517 00:25:23,864 --> 00:25:28,144 Speaker 4: it was like, and I was like, whimsical anarchy. You 518 00:25:28,144 --> 00:25:30,304 Speaker 4: don't want none of that. I think it's the best 519 00:25:30,384 --> 00:25:33,264 Speaker 4: possible approach that you could take to this exact type 520 00:25:33,304 --> 00:25:35,504 Speaker 4: of thing, because I think that in general, they don't 521 00:25:35,624 --> 00:25:38,264 Speaker 4: deserve to be taken seriously. I think that not being 522 00:25:38,264 --> 00:25:41,784 Speaker 4: taken seriously pisses them off almost more than anything making 523 00:25:41,864 --> 00:25:44,504 Speaker 4: fun of them all that type of stuff. They're just 524 00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:47,464 Speaker 4: they're very thin skinned, and it's like they want you 525 00:25:47,584 --> 00:25:50,424 Speaker 4: to just like that's fact. They want the molotods and 526 00:25:50,464 --> 00:25:52,904 Speaker 4: all that stuff because they know exactly how they respond 527 00:25:52,904 --> 00:25:54,264 Speaker 4: to that, and they're begging you to give them a 528 00:25:54,304 --> 00:25:54,824 Speaker 4: chance to do. 529 00:25:54,864 --> 00:25:57,704 Speaker 3: What I think you do really well is you take 530 00:25:57,704 --> 00:25:59,544 Speaker 3: a very serious thing and you make fun of it, 531 00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:01,704 Speaker 3: but you don't lose the fact that it's serious. Like 532 00:26:01,744 --> 00:26:04,904 Speaker 3: when you talk you did one on Chicago and them, 533 00:26:05,104 --> 00:26:08,224 Speaker 3: you know, ice repelling from helicopters, and how excited they 534 00:26:08,304 --> 00:26:10,744 Speaker 3: must be deck like real military guys. 535 00:26:11,624 --> 00:26:14,024 Speaker 5: I just did a raid on a Chicago apartment building 536 00:26:14,024 --> 00:26:15,984 Speaker 5: where they repelled from helicopters in the middle of the 537 00:26:16,064 --> 00:26:18,344 Speaker 5: night and terrorized a bunch of US citizens, many of 538 00:26:18,344 --> 00:26:20,824 Speaker 5: whom were children by dragging them into the streets and 539 00:26:20,904 --> 00:26:23,224 Speaker 5: ransacking their homes. And you just know they felt so 540 00:26:23,584 --> 00:26:26,664 Speaker 5: cool doing it too, especially because that helicopter part. Like 541 00:26:26,944 --> 00:26:29,344 Speaker 5: in their minds, these guys are all like starring in 542 00:26:29,384 --> 00:26:32,744 Speaker 5: an early ninety Stephens Segall movie, but in reality they're 543 00:26:33,344 --> 00:26:36,104 Speaker 5: starring in a twenty twenty Stephen Sagall movie, like you know, 544 00:26:36,104 --> 00:26:38,064 Speaker 5: the ones where he's fat and sucks and everything's dumb 545 00:26:38,104 --> 00:26:40,664 Speaker 5: about it all, Like this is insanity, and they know that. 546 00:26:40,704 --> 00:26:42,424 Speaker 5: They don't care, you know, in fact, it's all part 547 00:26:42,424 --> 00:26:44,864 Speaker 5: of the plan. They're just gonna keep escalating and instigating 548 00:26:44,904 --> 00:26:47,864 Speaker 5: and pushing Americans further and further. And when we finally 549 00:26:47,864 --> 00:26:51,184 Speaker 5: pushed back, Trump's just gonna declare insurrection the way Michaels 550 00:26:51,224 --> 00:26:54,424 Speaker 5: got declared bankruptcy and bam martial law and the death 551 00:26:54,424 --> 00:26:57,464 Speaker 5: of democracy. Well, we cannot give them what they want here, 552 00:26:57,544 --> 00:27:00,024 Speaker 5: a right, like we have to keep protesting all this shit, sure, 553 00:27:00,144 --> 00:27:03,904 Speaker 5: but without falling into their trap and becoming violent, except 554 00:27:03,944 --> 00:27:05,064 Speaker 5: for throwing sandwiches at them. 555 00:27:05,064 --> 00:27:05,984 Speaker 7: That shit's hilarious. 556 00:27:07,224 --> 00:27:09,384 Speaker 3: It is a serious thing, a potentially dangerous thing, but 557 00:27:09,864 --> 00:27:11,904 Speaker 3: it is also worth making fun of. 558 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:14,664 Speaker 2: They really do worry about being made fun of, right, 559 00:27:14,744 --> 00:27:16,064 Speaker 2: This is why they're trying to get rid of the 560 00:27:16,144 --> 00:27:18,584 Speaker 2: late night comics Jimmy Kimmel. This is why they're up 561 00:27:18,624 --> 00:27:23,224 Speaker 2: there high on the list. That along with creating fake 562 00:27:23,344 --> 00:27:26,344 Speaker 2: enemies like Soros or whatever Antifa is right is if 563 00:27:26,544 --> 00:27:28,904 Speaker 2: who could be pro Nazi, right other than the guy 564 00:27:28,904 --> 00:27:31,624 Speaker 2: in the Congressman's office with the Nazi flag embedded into 565 00:27:31,624 --> 00:27:35,264 Speaker 2: the American But can there be? And I'd love to 566 00:27:35,304 --> 00:27:39,224 Speaker 2: see it if it is? Can there be deeply conservative 567 00:27:39,824 --> 00:27:42,544 Speaker 2: comedians that are successful? The whole point is to go 568 00:27:42,624 --> 00:27:47,184 Speaker 2: against authority to laugh at it. How is punching down funny? Right? 569 00:27:47,224 --> 00:27:50,144 Speaker 2: I mean, well, how does that work? And could there 570 00:27:50,144 --> 00:27:51,904 Speaker 2: be a because I see they tried to do a 571 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,504 Speaker 2: conservative Jimmy Kimmel and it like flop. 572 00:27:54,544 --> 00:27:57,544 Speaker 4: My cousin Steven Crowder, who were not actually related like him, 573 00:27:57,664 --> 00:27:59,544 Speaker 4: he calls himself a comedian, but like they all have 574 00:27:59,624 --> 00:28:01,984 Speaker 4: the same idea of like they think that just like 575 00:28:02,864 --> 00:28:07,664 Speaker 4: saying racist stereotypes or whatever and then laughing afterwards is 576 00:28:07,744 --> 00:28:10,824 Speaker 4: like is being funny or is and that's not how, 577 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:13,384 Speaker 4: that's not how any of that act that's not actually funny? 578 00:28:13,544 --> 00:28:15,864 Speaker 4: They do that with racism or homophobia or whatever, and 579 00:28:15,904 --> 00:28:17,744 Speaker 4: then they get all mad when you tell them that's 580 00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:20,544 Speaker 4: stupid or not cool or whatnot. But look, you said, 581 00:28:20,584 --> 00:28:24,184 Speaker 4: could there be I the I think, and I hope 582 00:28:24,184 --> 00:28:28,424 Speaker 4: that this is about to change and shift back. But 583 00:28:28,424 --> 00:28:30,824 Speaker 4: for at least the past couple of years, the biggest 584 00:28:30,984 --> 00:28:35,344 Speaker 4: comedians on earth have been conservative and right wing guys. 585 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:40,104 Speaker 4: And that's something that like I never ever intic. I've 586 00:28:40,104 --> 00:28:42,184 Speaker 4: been like a comedy nerd my whole life, before I 587 00:28:42,184 --> 00:28:44,544 Speaker 4: ever started doing comedy, which is fifteen years ago, and 588 00:28:44,544 --> 00:28:45,904 Speaker 4: the whole time I've been doing it. And that's one 589 00:28:45,904 --> 00:28:48,544 Speaker 4: thing I never ever anticipated, because like you said, I 590 00:28:48,544 --> 00:28:51,424 Speaker 4: always had the same perspective on it. It was like comedy 591 00:28:51,464 --> 00:28:54,384 Speaker 4: or even being a good comedian is inherently progressive, or 592 00:28:54,424 --> 00:28:57,424 Speaker 4: at the very least, it's like skeptical and you question 593 00:28:57,504 --> 00:29:00,424 Speaker 4: authority and that type of thing. So anybody that's gonna 594 00:29:00,464 --> 00:29:04,784 Speaker 4: fall in lockstep with an authoritarian regime or be fascist 595 00:29:04,784 --> 00:29:07,744 Speaker 4: boot liquors or whatever, it's it's just it's antithetical to 596 00:29:07,784 --> 00:29:10,424 Speaker 4: everything that comedy or satire supposed represent. That's what I 597 00:29:10,464 --> 00:29:14,064 Speaker 4: always thought. But what happened. This isn't news. Everybody saw 598 00:29:14,064 --> 00:29:17,184 Speaker 4: this unfold basically the left has the left got more 599 00:29:17,224 --> 00:29:21,904 Speaker 4: and more emboldened to like scold people, especially about don't 600 00:29:21,984 --> 00:29:24,344 Speaker 4: say that word, don't make those jokes, don't do this, 601 00:29:24,384 --> 00:29:26,904 Speaker 4: don't do that, or whatever. And comedians in particular, especially 602 00:29:26,944 --> 00:29:29,944 Speaker 4: a lot of big ones, were like, you're not gonna 603 00:29:29,944 --> 00:29:31,944 Speaker 4: tell me what I can't what I can and can't 604 00:29:32,024 --> 00:29:34,104 Speaker 4: joke about it, and they got very defensive about it. It's 605 00:29:34,064 --> 00:29:35,384 Speaker 4: the type of thing that ever, and when I said that, 606 00:29:35,424 --> 00:29:37,984 Speaker 4: you know, I'm talking about very famously Dave Chappelle with 607 00:29:38,024 --> 00:29:39,704 Speaker 4: his like trans jokes or whatever, it. 608 00:29:39,624 --> 00:29:41,744 Speaker 3: Felt like everybody didn't want to go to call. 609 00:29:43,264 --> 00:29:45,664 Speaker 5: And when they got pushed back against that when people 610 00:29:45,664 --> 00:29:48,144 Speaker 5: are like, yeah, you shouldn't do those jokes because they're bad, 611 00:29:48,184 --> 00:29:49,904 Speaker 5: and a lot of these comedians are like, fuck you, 612 00:29:49,944 --> 00:29:50,584 Speaker 5: and then they like. 613 00:29:50,544 --> 00:29:53,744 Speaker 4: And then that pushed them further in the other direction, 614 00:29:53,864 --> 00:29:55,424 Speaker 4: and that sort of led to a lot of them 615 00:29:55,704 --> 00:29:59,184 Speaker 4: falling in league with the current iteration of the American 616 00:29:59,264 --> 00:30:02,184 Speaker 4: right just because they were aligned against that type of mentality, 617 00:30:02,224 --> 00:30:04,464 Speaker 4: and that led to them like being ancillary to a 618 00:30:04,464 --> 00:30:07,584 Speaker 4: lot of much more dangerous shit, but also hugely important 619 00:30:07,624 --> 00:30:10,344 Speaker 4: part of it that you can'tnot say. When they did this. 620 00:30:10,464 --> 00:30:14,304 Speaker 4: They also found that it was incredibly lucrative, like the 621 00:30:14,744 --> 00:30:16,944 Speaker 4: right wing grift or whatever. They made a lot of 622 00:30:17,464 --> 00:30:20,264 Speaker 4: found that it was very make a lot of money 623 00:30:20,264 --> 00:30:22,704 Speaker 4: from doing that, and so then they became there were 624 00:30:22,744 --> 00:30:26,544 Speaker 4: comics who started trying to get canceled so that they 625 00:30:26,584 --> 00:30:28,744 Speaker 4: could become part of that whole world because they saw 626 00:30:28,864 --> 00:30:31,384 Speaker 4: how successful that it could make you be. And there's 627 00:30:31,424 --> 00:30:34,264 Speaker 4: been some backpedaling from guys like Joe Rogan and Andrew 628 00:30:34,304 --> 00:30:38,024 Speaker 4: Shelton dudes like that about Trump particularly. There's been things 629 00:30:38,024 --> 00:30:40,664 Speaker 4: like Mark Marin taking a lot of these guys to 630 00:30:40,784 --> 00:30:43,024 Speaker 4: task about and he had a bit from a special 631 00:30:43,144 --> 00:30:45,224 Speaker 4: went viral where he said, if Hitler was alive today, 632 00:30:45,264 --> 00:30:49,904 Speaker 4: he'd do Theo Bond's podcast right, And that apparently upset 633 00:30:49,984 --> 00:30:51,784 Speaker 4: Theo and Rogan a lot of them, but also got 634 00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:53,264 Speaker 4: made a lot of headlines and a lot of people. 635 00:30:53,304 --> 00:30:54,464 Speaker 4: There's I don't know if you'll have heard of this 636 00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:56,384 Speaker 4: thing called the Elephant Graveyard. If y'all heard of that 637 00:30:56,664 --> 00:30:59,064 Speaker 4: YouTube channel, you should look it up if you're at 638 00:30:59,104 --> 00:31:01,504 Speaker 4: all interested in this. It's this guy who makes these 639 00:31:01,664 --> 00:31:04,864 Speaker 4: video essays about this whole world basically and taking it 640 00:31:04,864 --> 00:31:07,104 Speaker 4: to task and calling it out and there's a weird 641 00:31:07,224 --> 00:31:10,824 Speaker 4: kind of comedy civil war opening right now or brewing 642 00:31:10,864 --> 00:31:13,464 Speaker 4: about this whole kind of thing. And you said, how 643 00:31:13,464 --> 00:31:16,424 Speaker 4: it's punching down like that funny. That was Marin's whole thing. 644 00:31:16,464 --> 00:31:18,584 Speaker 4: When he went on his recent tirade against it, he 645 00:31:18,664 --> 00:31:22,264 Speaker 4: was like, look, you won, like you won, Like these 646 00:31:22,384 --> 00:31:25,104 Speaker 4: people are disenfranchised and we're gonna to bring drug out 647 00:31:25,104 --> 00:31:26,984 Speaker 4: in the streets, trans people are afraid to exist, all 648 00:31:26,984 --> 00:31:29,184 Speaker 4: this stuff. You won. When are you going to stop 649 00:31:29,224 --> 00:31:29,984 Speaker 4: with the jokes? 650 00:31:31,464 --> 00:31:31,664 Speaker 2: Right? 651 00:31:31,744 --> 00:31:34,904 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the Also he's made this point. A 652 00:31:34,904 --> 00:31:36,464 Speaker 4: bunch show people made this point, but it's true. It 653 00:31:36,544 --> 00:31:40,264 Speaker 4: very quickly becomes hack because they're all again. Once it 654 00:31:40,304 --> 00:31:42,384 Speaker 4: became evident to a lot of up and coming comedians 655 00:31:42,384 --> 00:31:44,424 Speaker 4: and stuff that this is how you get to the 656 00:31:44,504 --> 00:31:47,864 Speaker 4: arena level, to get to whatever, they all started making 657 00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:49,944 Speaker 4: the same jokes about the same things. They all started 658 00:31:49,944 --> 00:31:52,704 Speaker 4: bitching about wokeness and talking about trans people, and when 659 00:31:52,704 --> 00:31:54,824 Speaker 4: everybody's doing the same thing again, it becomes hack and 660 00:31:54,904 --> 00:31:57,984 Speaker 4: pandery and it's bad. But they tried to act like 661 00:31:58,624 --> 00:32:02,784 Speaker 4: somehow that was edgy or whatever, And I guess it 662 00:32:02,904 --> 00:32:05,064 Speaker 4: was edgy, but not in a good way, and it's 663 00:32:05,144 --> 00:32:07,344 Speaker 4: just been it's been a weird time. 664 00:32:07,624 --> 00:32:10,304 Speaker 2: How do you do with Heckler's you've got you must 665 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:13,344 Speaker 2: get heckled? Mega folks mutst commit either target you or. 666 00:32:13,544 --> 00:32:16,704 Speaker 4: As far as maga people. So my whole comedy CARU, 667 00:32:16,824 --> 00:32:18,384 Speaker 4: so far, I seem to have existed at what I 668 00:32:18,424 --> 00:32:22,064 Speaker 4: call a like internet comment level of hatred, which means 669 00:32:22,064 --> 00:32:25,904 Speaker 4: like they don't hate me enough yet to leave their 670 00:32:26,104 --> 00:32:28,824 Speaker 4: house and buy a ticket and come stand in line 671 00:32:28,864 --> 00:32:32,224 Speaker 4: and call me a queer or whatever. Yeah. 672 00:32:32,384 --> 00:32:32,544 Speaker 5: Right. 673 00:32:46,704 --> 00:32:48,704 Speaker 4: I feel like Donald Trump has been the butt of 674 00:32:48,824 --> 00:32:52,144 Speaker 4: jokes since before he even got into politics, like for years, 675 00:32:53,064 --> 00:32:55,704 Speaker 4: and some of it I don't know, Maybe he just 676 00:32:55,704 --> 00:32:57,664 Speaker 4: doesn't see all of it. Maybe it's like only the 677 00:32:57,664 --> 00:33:00,584 Speaker 4: stuff that he sees or is confronted with he just 678 00:33:00,624 --> 00:33:02,784 Speaker 4: can't move past and it drives him insane. And then 679 00:33:02,824 --> 00:33:05,544 Speaker 4: other stuff people shield from him and never finds out about, 680 00:33:05,544 --> 00:33:07,464 Speaker 4: because I don't get how he picks and choose what 681 00:33:07,624 --> 00:33:12,304 Speaker 4: to be incensed by, because because it's a NonStop deluge 682 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:15,904 Speaker 4: of people making fun of his stupid as every day 683 00:33:16,264 --> 00:33:17,504 Speaker 4: you know you. 684 00:33:17,504 --> 00:33:21,224 Speaker 2: Mentioned We've mentioned all a number of times, us and them, right, 685 00:33:21,264 --> 00:33:24,504 Speaker 2: which I only half reject I think there is of 686 00:33:24,704 --> 00:33:28,344 Speaker 2: them because they have this messianic figure. It's a cult. 687 00:33:28,384 --> 00:33:31,064 Speaker 2: They have things you have to believe in, right, you 688 00:33:31,144 --> 00:33:33,544 Speaker 2: have to believe that twenty twenty was You have to 689 00:33:33,584 --> 00:33:36,784 Speaker 2: believe to be in the cult that twenty twenty was ripped. 690 00:33:36,864 --> 00:33:38,704 Speaker 2: You don't have to know how, you just know it was. 691 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:41,704 Speaker 2: And January sixth was a day of love. And but 692 00:33:41,824 --> 00:33:44,064 Speaker 2: the US part I have no idea what you think 693 00:33:44,064 --> 00:33:45,704 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. I didn't think of a whole lot 694 00:33:45,744 --> 00:33:48,864 Speaker 2: of them. I think he was a mediocre if that president, 695 00:33:48,984 --> 00:33:52,864 Speaker 2: And I don't like AOC doesn't speak for me, and 696 00:33:53,144 --> 00:33:55,304 Speaker 2: so on the one side, I think there's a the 697 00:33:56,304 --> 00:34:00,744 Speaker 2: not Mega. It's pretty amorphous. There's no other despite the 698 00:34:00,744 --> 00:34:03,584 Speaker 2: fact that it's on the other side, the Mega side 699 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:06,064 Speaker 2: is they all deserve to die because of Charlie Kirk. 700 00:34:06,264 --> 00:34:10,183 Speaker 2: They want who the fuck is they? I don't know, Yeah, 701 00:34:10,344 --> 00:34:13,623 Speaker 2: but there is a they from the progressive side. Right, 702 00:34:13,663 --> 00:34:15,944 Speaker 2: if you're if you wearing a truck t shirt, you're 703 00:34:15,944 --> 00:34:19,223 Speaker 2: wearing a MEGA hat and you buy into the religion 704 00:34:19,263 --> 00:34:21,144 Speaker 2: of it, it's you know, there's a there are things, 705 00:34:21,504 --> 00:34:23,384 Speaker 2: and people don't want to leave. They don't want to 706 00:34:23,384 --> 00:34:25,223 Speaker 2: say that. Yeah, maybe Joe Biden won fair and spare 707 00:34:25,304 --> 00:34:27,863 Speaker 2: because now you're out there's an in and out, there's 708 00:34:27,984 --> 00:34:29,464 Speaker 2: contours around them. 709 00:34:29,824 --> 00:34:32,024 Speaker 4: Yeah, the left is a very the left in general 710 00:34:32,104 --> 00:34:34,223 Speaker 4: or just like you said, not MAGA, especially if you 711 00:34:34,263 --> 00:34:38,864 Speaker 4: frame it that way, is a very varied, diverse coalition 712 00:34:39,064 --> 00:34:41,183 Speaker 4: or like you said, a morphois grouping of people. It's 713 00:34:41,223 --> 00:34:43,703 Speaker 4: part of the problem that they have in getting anything 714 00:34:43,783 --> 00:34:46,104 Speaker 4: done ever or pushing back on stuff is they can't 715 00:34:46,824 --> 00:34:49,224 Speaker 4: agree on pretty much anything, and you're so many different factions. 716 00:34:49,223 --> 00:34:52,143 Speaker 4: But that's I feel like that's inherent to being the 717 00:34:52,183 --> 00:34:55,624 Speaker 4: official side of different types of people or different belief 718 00:34:55,663 --> 00:34:57,703 Speaker 4: systems or whatever, because really the other side is just 719 00:34:58,143 --> 00:35:00,823 Speaker 4: it's not it's pretty narrowly defined. They have like their 720 00:35:00,864 --> 00:35:04,704 Speaker 4: tokens and stuff. But there's like really a pretty clearly 721 00:35:04,703 --> 00:35:07,344 Speaker 4: defined type of person that it's okay to be in 722 00:35:07,344 --> 00:35:11,183 Speaker 4: in MAGA world, and that's like a straight Christian, capitalist 723 00:35:11,183 --> 00:35:14,183 Speaker 4: conservative pretty much. So the videos we've been talking about, 724 00:35:14,223 --> 00:35:17,264 Speaker 4: I've been I called those videos the liberal redneck videos 725 00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:19,303 Speaker 4: or whatever, but I actually recently and I didn't make 726 00:35:19,344 --> 00:35:21,344 Speaker 4: any announcement or about it or whatever, but I stopped, 727 00:35:21,464 --> 00:35:23,104 Speaker 4: I took that out. I took that out on my 728 00:35:23,183 --> 00:35:25,824 Speaker 4: social media bios, and I took it out of the 729 00:35:25,864 --> 00:35:27,783 Speaker 4: title of videos and stuff and I just call them 730 00:35:27,824 --> 00:35:29,703 Speaker 4: like trade crowded rants or just have it under my 731 00:35:29,783 --> 00:35:32,064 Speaker 4: name now or whatever. And I was telling this. I 732 00:35:32,104 --> 00:35:34,864 Speaker 4: was on this other political podcast with a lefty buddy 733 00:35:34,864 --> 00:35:36,544 Speaker 4: mine in California, and I told him I changed it, 734 00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:38,544 Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, yeah, you just weren't comfortable 735 00:35:38,584 --> 00:35:40,984 Speaker 4: being associated with rednecks anymore. And I was like what, No. 736 00:35:41,183 --> 00:35:43,304 Speaker 4: I was like, it's because of liberal is the reason 737 00:35:43,344 --> 00:35:45,384 Speaker 4: that I stopped using it. I was like it was 738 00:35:46,104 --> 00:35:47,823 Speaker 4: and he was like what. I was like, yeah, because 739 00:35:48,223 --> 00:35:50,904 Speaker 4: when I first started doing that in twenty sixteen, especially 740 00:35:50,984 --> 00:35:55,464 Speaker 4: being from the South, liberal just meant like liberal democrat, 741 00:35:55,584 --> 00:35:59,663 Speaker 4: not Republican. All those things were like basically synonymous. But 742 00:35:59,743 --> 00:36:03,623 Speaker 4: I feel like now with the neoliberals and the establishment 743 00:36:03,663 --> 00:36:06,943 Speaker 4: Democrats and all that, it's become more clearly defined when 744 00:36:06,984 --> 00:36:10,464 Speaker 4: it's associated with people like the very cool cor Democrats 745 00:36:10,504 --> 00:36:12,863 Speaker 4: like Chuck Schumer and those guys. And I was just like, 746 00:36:12,944 --> 00:36:15,424 Speaker 4: that ain't my bag anymore. But to go back to 747 00:36:15,424 --> 00:36:18,024 Speaker 4: what we're talking about, so it is amorphis and we 748 00:36:18,064 --> 00:36:20,504 Speaker 4: are divided even on the whole left and all that 749 00:36:20,584 --> 00:36:22,584 Speaker 4: in opposition to them, and like you said, there is 750 00:36:22,703 --> 00:36:24,464 Speaker 4: them from our perspective. But I think that kind of 751 00:36:24,464 --> 00:36:27,303 Speaker 4: makes it true in both directions because it's like with 752 00:36:27,464 --> 00:36:31,504 Speaker 4: the philosophies of viewpoints and goals that they have. To me, 753 00:36:31,864 --> 00:36:34,064 Speaker 4: the way everyone should look at it, it is us 754 00:36:34,104 --> 00:36:37,743 Speaker 4: in them, because it's like you said, maga and not maga, right, 755 00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:40,423 Speaker 4: that is the us and them. That's the way people 756 00:36:40,424 --> 00:36:41,584 Speaker 4: are going to have to start looking at it. I 757 00:36:41,623 --> 00:36:44,744 Speaker 4: think it's like you're either on board for a totalitarian 758 00:36:45,424 --> 00:36:50,663 Speaker 4: fascist dictatorship essentially here authoritarian regime and late stage capitalism 759 00:36:50,663 --> 00:36:53,903 Speaker 4: and all that. You're either like down with that, and 760 00:36:53,944 --> 00:36:56,464 Speaker 4: if you're not, then you're on our team or you 761 00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:57,183 Speaker 4: should be. 762 00:36:57,223 --> 00:37:00,343 Speaker 2: Letting taught way back way. It's just as fascist than 763 00:37:00,544 --> 00:37:05,104 Speaker 2: a small vanguard party with a strong leadership and goals 764 00:37:06,024 --> 00:37:09,184 Speaker 2: is has more strength and more ability to bring about 765 00:37:09,304 --> 00:37:13,863 Speaker 2: change to take power than the ninety percent. The Bolsheviks 766 00:37:13,864 --> 00:37:17,464 Speaker 2: were small minority even within the socialist movement Russia. But 767 00:37:17,544 --> 00:37:19,864 Speaker 2: because they were they had a direction, they had a plan, 768 00:37:20,263 --> 00:37:21,823 Speaker 2: they had contours, they had. 769 00:37:21,944 --> 00:37:23,263 Speaker 3: They were to kill their opponents. 770 00:37:23,544 --> 00:37:28,023 Speaker 2: There were yeah, there were more vicious yeah, and that 771 00:37:28,024 --> 00:37:29,663 Speaker 2: that made them more. I don't know what were the 772 00:37:29,743 --> 00:37:32,183 Speaker 2: Bolsheviks five percent, three percent? Even. 773 00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:36,263 Speaker 3: I want to ask one comedian question, and it has 774 00:37:36,304 --> 00:37:40,143 Speaker 3: to do with the whole comedian Saudi Arabia Riod thing. Yeah, 775 00:37:40,304 --> 00:37:41,903 Speaker 3: what's your take on on that? 776 00:37:42,024 --> 00:37:43,944 Speaker 4: I almost got into that earlier when I was talking 777 00:37:43,984 --> 00:37:46,183 Speaker 4: about the right word shift in comedy lately and but 778 00:37:46,223 --> 00:37:47,984 Speaker 4: I said, but lately, I feel like maybe the pendulum 779 00:37:48,024 --> 00:37:50,064 Speaker 4: swinging back, and I was like Mark Maren doing this whatever. 780 00:37:50,104 --> 00:37:52,703 Speaker 4: But and I almost got into Riodd because I think 781 00:37:52,743 --> 00:37:56,984 Speaker 4: that's part of a part of that hopeful shift as well. 782 00:37:57,183 --> 00:38:00,783 Speaker 4: But the Reodd Festival specifically, First things first, No, I 783 00:38:00,904 --> 00:38:03,184 Speaker 4: was not asked. I don't think they would have asked. 784 00:38:04,143 --> 00:38:05,863 Speaker 4: That makes it very easy for all for me to 785 00:38:05,904 --> 00:38:08,263 Speaker 4: say all of what follows, because I didn't have a 786 00:38:08,304 --> 00:38:10,464 Speaker 4: gigantic check put in front of me that I had 787 00:38:10,504 --> 00:38:13,343 Speaker 4: to walk away from. So I'm acknowledging that, Yeah, I 788 00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:15,503 Speaker 4: found it. I didn't. I don't feel the same about 789 00:38:15,504 --> 00:38:17,343 Speaker 4: literally every comedian that did it. I don't think that 790 00:38:17,384 --> 00:38:19,264 Speaker 4: they're all in the same position. There's plenty of comics 791 00:38:19,263 --> 00:38:21,544 Speaker 4: who went over there that Again, the check that they 792 00:38:21,584 --> 00:38:25,663 Speaker 4: got from that is like bigger by orders of magnitude 793 00:38:25,703 --> 00:38:28,344 Speaker 4: than anything they've ever gotten before. They're not household names, 794 00:38:28,424 --> 00:38:30,344 Speaker 4: they don't have more money than they could ever spend. 795 00:38:30,504 --> 00:38:33,863 Speaker 4: Their future is not at all necessarily secured, and it's 796 00:38:33,944 --> 00:38:35,303 Speaker 4: and then also there's some of them that it's like 797 00:38:35,344 --> 00:38:37,944 Speaker 4: there's no hypocrisy involved. It's like, like, I don't know 798 00:38:37,984 --> 00:38:39,263 Speaker 4: the guy. I think he's funny, he's one of the 799 00:38:39,263 --> 00:38:41,383 Speaker 4: biggest stars on earth. Seems like a nice dude. But like, 800 00:38:42,143 --> 00:38:44,184 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone was all that surprise that Kevin 801 00:38:44,223 --> 00:38:45,984 Speaker 4: Hart took the money to go, do you know what 802 00:38:45,984 --> 00:38:48,424 Speaker 4: I mean? He's a He's on a Draft Kings commercial 803 00:38:48,584 --> 00:38:51,623 Speaker 4: every other commercial break every day, like he you pu 804 00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:53,504 Speaker 4: out the check book, Kevin Hart's gonna show up, and 805 00:38:53,504 --> 00:38:55,823 Speaker 4: everybody knows that about him. It's so that made it 806 00:38:55,864 --> 00:38:58,343 Speaker 4: better for him with this because it's like people aren't surprised, 807 00:38:58,344 --> 00:38:59,903 Speaker 4: and I don't think he would deny any of that. 808 00:38:59,904 --> 00:39:01,984 Speaker 4: He's I'm in this for the money or whatever. But 809 00:39:02,183 --> 00:39:05,703 Speaker 4: some of them it was, you know, it was like, dude, 810 00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:07,703 Speaker 4: what are you doing? You know? And like, I mean 811 00:39:08,104 --> 00:39:10,304 Speaker 4: the one that gets talked about the mode of course, 812 00:39:10,584 --> 00:39:12,384 Speaker 4: and I agree with it. I'm a huge fan myself 813 00:39:12,424 --> 00:39:14,104 Speaker 4: and I have met this guy a couple of times. 814 00:39:14,304 --> 00:39:17,303 Speaker 4: Love him. But like Bill Burr's whole recent thing that 815 00:39:17,344 --> 00:39:20,944 Speaker 4: he's been on, which has been like very anti capitalist, 816 00:39:21,064 --> 00:39:23,223 Speaker 4: very anti billionaire, this shit's going to be the ruin 817 00:39:23,263 --> 00:39:25,064 Speaker 4: of us all. He's been a voice of reason in 818 00:39:25,104 --> 00:39:27,943 Speaker 4: a lot of ways, and so to be that guy 819 00:39:27,984 --> 00:39:30,104 Speaker 4: I do all that and have people rally around him 820 00:39:30,143 --> 00:39:33,143 Speaker 4: for that, and then go over there and shuck and 821 00:39:33,263 --> 00:39:37,223 Speaker 4: jive for the Saudi Royals, the people who cop journalist's 822 00:39:37,223 --> 00:39:39,823 Speaker 4: heads off and all that stuff and kill women with 823 00:39:39,984 --> 00:39:42,504 Speaker 4: rocks for talking at the wrong time or having a 824 00:39:42,544 --> 00:39:44,464 Speaker 4: collar drome show and or whatever they do over it. 825 00:39:44,544 --> 00:39:46,904 Speaker 4: But like it's just it just feels pretty hard to 826 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:50,504 Speaker 4: justify to me. But it would be one thing if 827 00:39:50,504 --> 00:39:52,183 Speaker 4: they went and did it and then came back and 828 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,944 Speaker 4: we're just like, look, man, what do you want me 829 00:39:55,024 --> 00:39:57,663 Speaker 4: tell you? If someone offered you the amount of money 830 00:39:57,703 --> 00:40:00,503 Speaker 4: I got offered for one show, I'd like to see 831 00:40:00,504 --> 00:40:02,823 Speaker 4: you say no to it. If they came back and 832 00:40:02,864 --> 00:40:06,143 Speaker 4: said that, I'd be like, yeah, you're right, I don't 833 00:40:06,223 --> 00:40:07,863 Speaker 4: I'm not in that position. I don't know, But that's 834 00:40:07,944 --> 00:40:09,464 Speaker 4: not what most of them have been doing. They've been 835 00:40:09,783 --> 00:40:13,104 Speaker 4: getting self righteous about it and acting like, no, really, 836 00:40:13,143 --> 00:40:16,983 Speaker 4: this was like a humanitarian sort of ambassadorship that we 837 00:40:16,984 --> 00:40:20,263 Speaker 4: were doing over there. This is like cultural outreach. We'll see. 838 00:40:20,304 --> 00:40:22,544 Speaker 4: We were going over there to try to help the 839 00:40:22,584 --> 00:40:25,863 Speaker 4: waves of progress move forward throughout this country because they're 840 00:40:25,864 --> 00:40:28,143 Speaker 4: trying to do better and we wanted to assist them 841 00:40:28,143 --> 00:40:30,944 Speaker 4: in that. That just to me makes it kind of 842 00:40:30,984 --> 00:40:33,743 Speaker 4: even worse because it's like, no, no, you weren't. No, 843 00:40:33,824 --> 00:40:36,544 Speaker 4: it isn't that's not And also, by the way, I 844 00:40:36,544 --> 00:40:38,783 Speaker 4: probably should have started with this, but I didn't. Many 845 00:40:38,824 --> 00:40:40,823 Speaker 4: times over the years, I've had fans of mine who 846 00:40:40,824 --> 00:40:44,623 Speaker 4: are very you know, people on the left for sure. Periodically, 847 00:40:45,104 --> 00:40:47,263 Speaker 4: whenever there's some new trans bill or whenever there's some 848 00:40:47,424 --> 00:40:50,424 Speaker 4: voting restriction shit going on in North Carolina or Georgia 849 00:40:50,544 --> 00:40:52,904 Speaker 4: or whatever, and I've got shows coming up in Charlotte 850 00:40:52,944 --> 00:40:56,303 Speaker 4: or Atlanta or whatever, I will have fans of mine 851 00:40:56,304 --> 00:40:59,223 Speaker 4: who live in California or Portland or whatever say to 852 00:40:59,223 --> 00:41:01,703 Speaker 4: me like, are you still going to do that show? 853 00:41:01,743 --> 00:41:04,383 Speaker 4: Are you really going to go to North Carolina right now? 854 00:41:04,424 --> 00:41:04,504 Speaker 2: Like? 855 00:41:04,504 --> 00:41:09,223 Speaker 4: Are you not boycotting North Carolina? Bruce Springsteen is boycotting 856 00:41:09,263 --> 00:41:11,904 Speaker 4: North Carolina, it's okay. Well, I'm not Bruce Springsteen. I 857 00:41:11,904 --> 00:41:14,064 Speaker 4: don't think I had the same cultural impact that the 858 00:41:14,104 --> 00:41:15,943 Speaker 4: Boss does. I'm probably not going to make as many 859 00:41:15,944 --> 00:41:19,623 Speaker 4: headlines that he did by doing that. But also, no, 860 00:41:19,743 --> 00:41:22,263 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that because when I go there, 861 00:41:22,263 --> 00:41:23,663 Speaker 4: the people that come to the show are going to 862 00:41:23,703 --> 00:41:26,783 Speaker 4: be people who also hate that trans bathroom bill and 863 00:41:26,783 --> 00:41:28,424 Speaker 4: who want to go to a comedy show. Why should 864 00:41:28,424 --> 00:41:31,223 Speaker 4: I punish them for the bullshit that their government does 865 00:41:31,263 --> 00:41:33,783 Speaker 4: in their state. It's not their fault. No, of course 866 00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:35,783 Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that. And that exact same 867 00:41:35,824 --> 00:41:40,104 Speaker 4: logic would apply to just doing a regular tour date 868 00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:43,104 Speaker 4: in Saudi Arabia. If you just set up a tour 869 00:41:43,143 --> 00:41:45,943 Speaker 4: date at a venue there and said, people are fans 870 00:41:45,984 --> 00:41:48,424 Speaker 4: of mine, buy tickets and come see me, then I 871 00:41:48,464 --> 00:41:50,143 Speaker 4: would have zero problem with it. It would be the 872 00:41:50,223 --> 00:41:53,183 Speaker 4: exact same thing as me doing that show in North 873 00:41:53,183 --> 00:41:56,104 Speaker 4: Carolina during the trans bathroom stuff. But that isn't what 874 00:41:56,223 --> 00:41:59,984 Speaker 4: happened here. This literally was like an entertainment washing campaign 875 00:42:00,104 --> 00:42:02,584 Speaker 4: funded by the regime itself to get people to stop 876 00:42:02,584 --> 00:42:05,663 Speaker 4: associating them with fucking beheadings and lack of prespeech and 877 00:42:05,663 --> 00:42:07,824 Speaker 4: all that shit, and that makes it different. 878 00:42:07,864 --> 00:42:10,303 Speaker 5: This would be more like me again, and I'd never 879 00:42:10,344 --> 00:42:12,424 Speaker 5: be asked, but me going to do like a private 880 00:42:12,623 --> 00:42:15,864 Speaker 5: sing at mar A Lago celebrating the life of Jeffrey 881 00:42:15,864 --> 00:42:18,143 Speaker 5: Epstein or whatever, you know what I mean, Like if 882 00:42:18,183 --> 00:42:20,343 Speaker 5: I was the entertainment for that and I agreed to 883 00:42:20,344 --> 00:42:21,703 Speaker 5: do it and then and it'd be like and then 884 00:42:21,743 --> 00:42:24,663 Speaker 5: tried to justify that that's more like what this. 885 00:42:24,824 --> 00:42:27,384 Speaker 4: Was put in. Those dudes again, who I think are awesome, 886 00:42:27,584 --> 00:42:29,424 Speaker 4: and like I said, it's not all created equals. Some 887 00:42:29,504 --> 00:42:31,504 Speaker 4: of them I'm like less disappointed in, and even the 888 00:42:31,504 --> 00:42:33,903 Speaker 4: ones I am more disappointed in, they don't give a fuck, 889 00:42:33,904 --> 00:42:35,743 Speaker 4: and I wouldn't either if I was them, probably, But 890 00:42:35,783 --> 00:42:37,863 Speaker 4: they've got plenty of black backlash for it, and they're 891 00:42:37,864 --> 00:42:40,664 Speaker 4: clearly surprised by that. But I'm sure it's like anything, 892 00:42:40,783 --> 00:42:44,544 Speaker 4: it'll dissipate everything the next thing, Yeah, exactly. 893 00:42:44,344 --> 00:42:46,544 Speaker 3: And we will look for the next thing to get 894 00:42:46,584 --> 00:42:48,343 Speaker 3: your opinion on it and get your teake on it. 895 00:42:48,384 --> 00:42:50,304 Speaker 3: So again, thanks so much. 896 00:42:50,143 --> 00:42:51,663 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back on. It was fun. It's 897 00:42:51,663 --> 00:42:54,143 Speaker 4: always a pleasure. I'll tell everybody. Go to Trey Crowder 898 00:42:54,183 --> 00:42:56,743 Speaker 4: dot com to check out tour dates. If you want 899 00:42:56,743 --> 00:42:58,623 Speaker 4: to come see me, and I'm just Trey Crowder t 900 00:42:58,824 --> 00:43:02,744 Speaker 4: R A. E. Crowder on any your preferred social media platform. 901 00:43:02,464 --> 00:43:05,184 Speaker 2: You're showing Honolulu. 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