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Speaker 2: This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Over under odd brother references over the course of the

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Speaker 3: night and random drops from Alex Teichert one hundred and

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Speaker 3: seven point five. Welcome in another night Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 3: with Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Smith. Dan Byer in

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Speaker 3: his stead for a second straight night at dan Byer

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Speaker 3: on Fox tags in so like we're the mega powers

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Speaker 3: here Smith has been excized. I don't know if that

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Speaker 3: makes me Hogan or savage. Either way, I'm brother sitting pretty,

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Speaker 3: the macho king, or I'm the guy that stirred the drinks.

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Speaker 4: Welcome in for another night.

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Speaker 5: Big wrestling shoes to fill. I have tonight on what

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Speaker 5: is one of those nights where you will remember in

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Speaker 5: your radio career. How you talked about it, Mike, Yes,

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Speaker 5: the loss of a legend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough, you know, still reeling from the Ozzy

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Speaker 3: Osbourne side of things.

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Speaker 4: And I get it. If you're not a.

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Speaker 3: Huge metal head or go down that road, then maybe

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Speaker 3: it didn't have that effect. But for me it's you know,

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Speaker 3: a life of that. And then certainly for my brothers

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Speaker 3: and I we were trading videos and clips and remembrances

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Speaker 3: of matches that we saw live or or watched, you know,

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Speaker 3: on pay per view. Going back to WrestleMania one where

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Speaker 3: my dad is talking to my dad today about this,

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Speaker 3: the bold strategy of dropping us off at a theater

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Speaker 3: because WrestleMania one was only available on close circuit television

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Speaker 3: in a couple of spots, and in Chicago was theater,

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Speaker 3: which was not a particularly good part of town. But

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Speaker 3: my dad, somehow we convinced him to drop the three

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Speaker 3: off we went inside to watch the spectacle that was

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Speaker 3: WrestleMania one on closed circuit television. Got to our seats,

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Speaker 3: sitting there with all our snacks and just for three

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Speaker 4: You, and that was it. Right. We were hooked live events.

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Speaker 3: We'd always been to baseball games or whatever, but that

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Speaker 3: all right, not only are we gonna go to games, Oh,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go to some concerts, but damn it, the

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Speaker 3: beat the hell out of Baron von Rashka and whatever else.

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Speaker 3: Now the wwffeel, like the Hogan, first gets in for

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Speaker 3: the you know, the brief history lesson for those who

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Speaker 3: It was all territories, so you didn't get a lot

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Speaker 3: I was like, those were the guys from New York.

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Speaker 4: Well we know about them.

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Speaker 3: They had a show that was on Saturday night WWE.

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Speaker 3: Then WWF you had Saturday Morning Superstars, and then you'd

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Speaker 4: In Spanish, That's that's what we did.

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Speaker 5: I remember in the morning, I didn't realize that that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came back on Telemundo to see it again.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we had. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: That divide remains. But like the earliest memories and my

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Speaker 3: to WrestleMania last year. Right now we're trying to decide

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Speaker 3: back to Thunderlips, I have a Thunderlips cape. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: there's no denying the impact he had on an industry,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say it would be negligence if

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Speaker 5: But Mike I sent out a tweet on X, a

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Speaker 5: is there's something to that. There is something to hul

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Speaker 5: and that conversation of good and bad will continue. But

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Speaker 5: but I think all of those memories and there's very complicated.

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Speaker 5: trying to downplay what hull Cogan was through, but I

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Speaker 3: It's a touch point for everybody and it's something I've

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Speaker 3: even it pervades there is just the division divides politically, philosophically, theologically,

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Speaker 4: You can get in fights with everybody.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you read a tweet or two right

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Speaker 3: there that are just a microcosm there, right, just a hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: we can figure out where that separation is. And to

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: If you go into a synagogue, into services, whatever your

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Speaker 4: And most of the time in our life that's not

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Speaker 3: Right, sports and these entertainment pieces, that's part of our

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Speaker 3: collective shared experience. We look at it through different legs,

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Speaker 3: our collective experience of the wrestling ring, yes, all that

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's all.

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Speaker 3: There, it's all part of our our collective voice. And

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And I just the the latter years of

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Speaker 5: That's That's what today is about for me is we

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Speaker 5: will do that, and time will do that. My time will,

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Speaker 5: time will show how hull Cogan is remembered. I just

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Speaker 5: refuse to do it on the day that he died,

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Speaker 5: and he provided that or he was a part of that.

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Speaker 5: I just it's, man, I can't I get it. It

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Speaker 5: happened previously and it will happen throughout. But we can

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Speaker 5: just I don't pay respect. But I think it's more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some of it is the farming for

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Speaker 3: Always a question for any of the stuff anymore to me,

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Speaker 5: wasn't wrong, but he wasn't necessarily entire entirely accurate and specific.

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Speaker 3: No, that shit the specificity of it, right, because you

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Speaker 3: leave it up speculation as you would anyway, it's like

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Speaker 3: already left with an injury.

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Speaker 4: All right, what is it?

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Speaker 3: We want to know what's interesting about the tweet? And

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Speaker 3: this is where the fun of social interaction and social

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Speaker 3: media goes. Six point nine million views, to your point,

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Speaker 3: only four point forty six hundred retweets. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: not a hefty ratio of folks pushing your information along.

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Speaker 4: So that's kind of an interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: Saying nothing of Schefter, it's just kind of speaking to

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Speaker 3: the social media general.

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Speaker 5: Why did twenty four thousand like that? Why would they

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Speaker 5: like that to happen to just.

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Speaker 3: Because if he's a jet Yeah, get and Smith, they

448
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Speaker 3: need the thumbs down.

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Speaker 5: But there are other there are other tweets that came

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Speaker 5: out Mike that were much more descriptive. Brian Costello was

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Speaker 5: quote tweeted by Tom Pelisaro. Brian covers the Jets for

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Speaker 5: the New York Post, saying Field's taken inside on a cart,

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Speaker 5: pulled up during a play in team drills and has

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Speaker 5: had his leg being checked. Since that's a lot more

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Speaker 5: calming than carted to the locker room with an apparent

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Speaker 5: lower leg injury. Just just bad bad form. I know

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Speaker 5: it's the preseason for everybody, but bad form by Adam

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Speaker 5: Schefter on that tweet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we go through and he gets referenced to

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Speaker 3: Jason Cole who joined us yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I hope you guys made up.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, don't remind me, no, just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So you have rich Semini, who covers the Jets.

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Speaker 3: He had his his tweet that went out and started

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Speaker 3: going through quote Glens and won't speculate on the severity

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Speaker 3: of Field's injury, professes his faith in to Rod Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Remember it's to Rod Taylor. He made sure to point

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Speaker 3: that out to us. Also notes that Adrian Martinez has

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Speaker 3: some familiarity with the Detroit system now the Jets system,

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Speaker 3: so going on Glenn believes someone stepped on field ste

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Speaker 3: He goes all the way through and then later on

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Speaker 3: when he submitted his full practice report, Fields avoided serious injury,

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Speaker 3: listed his day to day and follows even even that

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Speaker 3: with the Field's toe scare overshadowed what was a good

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Speaker 3: day by the defense and cornerback Brandon Stevens, so immediately

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Speaker 3: circling back, it's like, hey, hey, hey, that's over there now.

477
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Speaker 3: Jets show so positivity out of Jets camp, but it's

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Speaker 3: the the inner interaction and we've always done it with

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Speaker 3: hockey of you know what, it's a lower body injury,

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Speaker 3: it's like is it a knee?

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Speaker 4: Is it an ankle?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't know right, just the way the guy

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Speaker 3: goes off the ice in this particular case, what you

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Speaker 3: just you get nothing? And he's such a monster in

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Speaker 3: the space right It's like if Shams tweets something, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he gets what everybody because Windy gets his run. But

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Speaker 3: even Lebron sunning him a bit has pushed him off

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Speaker 3: Mcmhmmon's now on the inside. So he gets his run

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Speaker 3: and then Woj disappeared. He just said, I'm out of this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, if there is a mount rushmore of insiders. Schefter's

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Speaker 5: on it. Yeah, it's Glazer, no doubt, Glo.

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Speaker 4: He's the one guy that gets information that the rest

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Speaker 4: of these he's not getting the group tasks correct.

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Speaker 3: Or he doesn't bother to pote repost what he gets

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Speaker 3: on the group text.

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Speaker 5: Woach would be on that. Schefter's on it like he

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Speaker 5: just you can't deny the following. That's what's slowy irresponsible

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Speaker 5: about it. That's what's so frustrating about it is that

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Speaker 5: he knew exactly what he was doing. Because when you

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Speaker 5: say lower left the lower leg injury, now, especially coming

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Speaker 5: off of an NBA season, we immediately think Achilles. And

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Speaker 5: to your point, starting out the segment of what happened

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Speaker 5: with Aaron Rodgers in his opening game, that's why he

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Speaker 5: knew what was going on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you say, and you put in no non contact.

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Speaker 3: Now, in this case, he did get stepped on, but

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Speaker 3: you know, if it doesn't, it's not a big hit.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you missed it right and you're not looking

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Speaker 3: to go into var in the process.

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Speaker 5: And Schefter didn't write no contact, but he did write

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Speaker 5: a parent which makes it, I think even worse because

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Speaker 5: then you're just saying like you're like it's it's apparent

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Speaker 5: like I'm not sure, but that's yeah, that's that's a

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Speaker 5: apparently Oh my goodness. By the way, by the way, Adam,

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Speaker 5: Adam Shelfer, Shelfer, that's pretty tweeted. Ruptured Achilles out for

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Speaker 5: the season. Adam Shelfer, the fake account has been getting

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Speaker 5: people on on that. But he's schefter wasn't that much better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's picked up the torch from a darned

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Speaker 3: chefter because that thought.

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, yes, a darn schefter.

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Speaker 4: That's the way to know. Welcome back to NFL.

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Speaker 5: It's a one hundred and eighteen followers as opposed to

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Speaker 5: the twelve million that.

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Speaker 3: But if you don't click through right, there's ways to

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Speaker 3: get yourself a bogus looking blue mark up near your.

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Speaker 4: Name, so who's and you could buy it? So who

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Speaker 4: knows if you're just doing a quick glance.

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Speaker 5: I forgot a darn chef, darn chef Centell.

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Speaker 4: Centel versus Central and on down the line. There you go.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields avoids major injuries, So uh, for now, the

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Speaker 3: Jets breeze breathe a sigh of relief. But I couldn't

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Speaker 3: tell you. I think I took enough time to turn

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Speaker 3: and make a cup of coffee to where I started

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Speaker 3: seeing the images of Kirk Cousins and a Jets you,

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Speaker 3: oh god timeline Immediately the guy has a hangnail and

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Speaker 3: is five minutes late for practice. As he gets it

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Speaker 3: attended to, it's going to prompt Kirk Cousins tweets.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just what the Jets need, another old quarterback

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Speaker 5: coming off of a Hill's injury. If that were to happen,

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Speaker 5: like if something were to happen to Justin you got

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Speaker 5: Torod Taylor is mentioned earlier. What's what's the difference?

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Speaker 4: You know, like, I mean, pay him nothing and move on.

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Speaker 5: The Jets model this year should be punt because that's

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Speaker 5: kind of what this season is. This is a whole

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Speaker 5: new reset under this new regime, there aren't great expectations

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Speaker 5: for what's gonna happen with the Jets, so they're kind

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Speaker 5: of punting on twenty twenty five. What would you bring

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Speaker 5: in a quarterback that makes forty million dollars a year?

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Speaker 4: Giant pictures of Drew Aller and nuss Meyer.

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Speaker 3: And maybe even an archie many sure sitting around our

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Speaker 3: arch manning. I should say five and a half wins

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Speaker 3: one of those teams sitting at the bottom of the

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Speaker 3: universe as we traverse here. Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Me, Mike Carbon Dan Byer in for Jason tonight.

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00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: You hear Dan during the week on the as part

556
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Speaker 3: of The Gottlieb Show, and Cavino and Rich you hear

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00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: them with me Sunday mornings nine to eleven Pacific. I

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Speaker 3: remember this time that we haven't switched a full on

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Speaker 3: football mode just yet in terms of our divide and

560
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Speaker 3: Conquer the network on the weekends, and of course the

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Speaker 3: I Watch Reflex podcast, all the fantasy news. We've got

562
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Speaker 3: some more rankings coming up a little bit later in

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Speaker 3: the evening, but now it's time to turn our attention

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Speaker 3: over to the news desk, full Slate, major League Baseball,

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Speaker 3: maybe some apparent Lee's and other terms mixed in her verbiage.

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Speaker 4: For the evening, it's Monty malanyas.

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Speaker 8: What's up, guys? What up? Carrie Rhodes fell for that

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Speaker 8: fake Adam Schefter account.

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Speaker 5: Shelfer.

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Speaker 8: Shelfer, So, I woke up this morning and he was like, no,

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Speaker 8: not Achilles, like that was his tweet, and I was like,

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Speaker 8: what is he talking? About and I had to go

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Speaker 8: look for it, and I was like, he got sent held.

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Speaker 5: He got sent held, And.

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Speaker 8: I called him out on it already.

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Speaker 4: He said, I know, I saw that, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: why didn't you double check?

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Speaker 8: Because but I agree with you, Dan Schefter should not

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Speaker 8: have worded it like that in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Well you know what you could have said, though, is

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Speaker 3: I saw the trailer for the new Percy Jackson season two.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good, right, Carrie? And see if it gets him

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Speaker 4: back on.

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Speaker 8: Nah. Just other news in the NFL fellas that the

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Speaker 8: Raiders are releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, just one year

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Speaker 8: after he signed a four year, one hundred and ten

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Speaker 8: million dollars deal. The team is avoiding his remaining guarantees

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Speaker 8: due to how he's handled his foot injury rehab. Reports

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Speaker 8: are that the team wanted him to have surgery. He

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Speaker 8: declined after several opinions. Wilkins is filing a grievance, so

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Speaker 8: we'll see how this turns out. In baseball, well, the

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Speaker 8: trade deadline is one week away and the Mariners have

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Speaker 8: acquired first baseman Josh Naylor from the Arizona Diamondbacks. But

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Speaker 8: right now the Mariners are losing to the Angels in

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Speaker 8: LA one zero top of the fourth inning. It's the

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Speaker 8: only game left. The others have wrapped up. The A's

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Speaker 8: top the Astros five to two, and the Cardinals held

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Speaker 8: on to defeat the Padres at home nine to seven.

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Speaker 8: Blue Jay's handed the Tigers another loss. They are one

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Speaker 8: and ten in their last eleven games. Eleven four was

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Speaker 8: the final score there, while while the Orioles avoided a sweep,

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Speaker 8: they topped the Guardians four to three. WNBA News Fever

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Speaker 8: star Kaitlin Clark there's no timetable for her return. The

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Speaker 8: team announced to date they did a further evaluations and

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Speaker 8: there was no additional injuries or damage. But she's just

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Speaker 8: gonna rehab with the priority on her long term health

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Speaker 8: and well being. That is what the team announced. Fever

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Speaker 8: did top the Aces already eighty to seventy, Sparks defeated

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Speaker 8: the Sun one o one to eighty six, Kelsey plump

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Speaker 8: thirty points in the wind, and the Storm Cruse passed

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Speaker 8: the Sky ninety five to fifty seven.

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Speaker 5: No Angel rees in that one. Back to you guys, so.

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Speaker 3: Manty, I gotta ask in terms of my team apparel,

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Speaker 3: you can be my stylist. Can you think I could

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Speaker 3: rock that Indiana Fever Stranger Things look that they put out.

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Speaker 4: You know, I haven't seen the shirt. I saw the video.

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Speaker 4: So is there shirts? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get it. Yeah, so they did it

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Now that I'm good, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna buy you on.

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Speaker 4: Come on, you could be in the upside down with

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Speaker 4: the side down a Fever upside down shirt.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: We say, we celebrate the life and times of David

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Speaker 3: Harbor wherever we can. We're gonna get you into his

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Speaker 3: full filmography before the night's over, Dan, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Manti looking at the shirts, I'll let you know.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you know.

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Speaker 3: There you go at Manzi Milanyos, We'll check back in

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Speaker 3: on that. I would be remiss if I didn't read

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Speaker 3: this tweet. You know, since we started with hul Cogan.

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Speaker 3: This comes from the account, the legacy account of the

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Speaker 3: Iron Cheek. Remember, no hold Corgan without Iron Chic, No

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Speaker 3: Iron Chic without hul Cogan. So one guy I really

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Speaker 3: wish was still with us in his mortal coil because

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Speaker 3: he would have been a fun guy to try to

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Speaker 3: get on air and see how many times you could

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Speaker 3: dump someone in an interview segment.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you the legends. I mean, Holgan outlived the many. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And the tweet that I saw was like, how is

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Speaker 5: rick Flair outliving everybody?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: That is that, Yes, he's a bit worse for wear

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Speaker 3: beat up. He did an interview with TMZ and in

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Speaker 3: praising Hogan made sure to bring in and give a

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Speaker 3: big hug to his battles with Ricky the Dragons Steamboat,

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Speaker 3: which was I thought pretty interesting. We always had heat,

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Speaker 3: we were great, never as good as when I was

649
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Speaker 3: fighting Steamboat, but I'll tell you it's great stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's a great theater.

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Speaker 3: Hey, turning our attention back into the fantasy land, we

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Speaker 3: got one wide receiver who's making some big, bold predictions

653
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Speaker 3: and it ties to something you said last night, Dan Byer.

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Speaker 4: Does he cracked the top five?

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Speaker 3: If so, where We'll tell you next at Dan Byer

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Speaker 3: on Fox find me over at Swollen Down.

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Speaker 2: Then be sure to catch live editions of The Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: seven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me and Mike

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Speaker 3: Carmon no Jason today at stan Byer in his stead.

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Speaker 3: As we traverse the fun and exciting world of sports

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Speaker 3: and entertainment, we'll continue to remember the life and the

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Speaker 3: legacy of Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 4: Some of the sound bites just too rich as we go.

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Speaker 3: Through, but certainly looking at the wide array of stories

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Speaker 3: flowing through training camp. Yesterday we did our fantasy quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: and running back top five, and you dialed up a

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Speaker 3: sleeper note in terms of a guy that you're expecting

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Speaker 3: big things from, even if well, perhaps the team itself

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Speaker 3: is more bluster than performance, and that's going down.

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Speaker 4: To the world of Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Well, Cedee Lamb went and made sure to point out, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, when I'm on the field with Dak, I

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Speaker 3: mean special things can happen, right, I'm a guy that

677
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Speaker 3: can get it done. So every year we've got an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: If the two of us get together, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be special. So now when we look at our wonderful

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Speaker 3: world of the wide receiver position, Dan, going back to

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Speaker 3: last year CD was eighth, did not play the final

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Speaker 3: two weeks of the season. So whenever we do this

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Speaker 3: and cost value adjusted, what have you about? Eighteen fantasy

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Speaker 3: points per game. In PPR leagues, you do bring in

685
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Speaker 3: George Pickens, a guy that we've been waiting on to

686
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Speaker 3: really find that upper echelon, but let's face it, in

687
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh not exactly running with a bunch of jugger to

688
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Speaker 3: try to make that happen. And also a guy that,

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Speaker 3: as we talk, maybe a little bit of Tyreek Hill

690
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Speaker 3: trying to figure out how much is pouting versus performance

691
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Speaker 3: falling off versus change in your quarterback trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out what that pie looks like. George Pickens was a

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Speaker 3: guy that if he didn't get fed early, it was

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Speaker 3: operations shut down and pout. So now, but together that's

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Speaker 3: a dynamic duo that is mightily fascinating, which is why

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott was a guy that appeared on your radar

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Speaker 3: in a big way at.

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Speaker 4: The quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Last year, your top scorers Chase Jefferson, I'm on Ross,

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Speaker 3: Saint Brown, Brian Thomas for all the misgivings and problems

701
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Speaker 3: of the Jacksonville offense, was still fourth, and then Drake

702
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Speaker 3: London was number five ahead of Milite neighbors. Some interesting

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Speaker 3: names right when you think about their team performances, like

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Speaker 3: just again showing that fantasy performance can come despite an

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Speaker 3: insignia on the side of the helmet.

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Speaker 5: You celebrate every game. You have to celebrate every team,

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Speaker 5: even if some teams do not give you that fantasy

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Speaker 5: fruitful list that you would hope. It's funny that we're

709
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Speaker 5: talking about this and Ceedee Lamb says it not because

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Speaker 5: I think it validates what I said yesterday. But we

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Speaker 5: did the top five quarterbacks, and I think you kind

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Speaker 5: of know who the top five quarterbacks are going to

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Speaker 5: be fantasy wise, Mike. My fifth quarterback was Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: on the list, just because the rushing ability of Lamar

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Speaker 5: and Josh Allen and Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts just

716
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Speaker 5: provides something that Joe Burrow doesn't have. And Dak to

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Speaker 5: me where he is right now in his career. They're

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Speaker 5: not mirror images, but there are similarities between the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: and Cincinnati Bengals. And so now George Pickens comes in

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Speaker 5: ends up being maybe in that Ta Higgins spot that

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Speaker 5: you're like, hey, all right, Dallas probably has better offensive

722
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Speaker 5: line than what Cincinnati does. So you've got that going

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Speaker 5: for Dallas. And now when you look at the receivers

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Speaker 5: that you mentioned like something like justin Jefferson we know

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Speaker 5: is magnificent. But again there's the quarterback question. Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 5: doesn't have that. That's Deck's health, obviously, but that could

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Speaker 5: be with any other quarterback in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: So I get why Ceede Lamb is excited, and I

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Speaker 5: think we should be excited about Ceedee Lambs as a

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Speaker 5: top three wide receiver in fantasy this year.

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Speaker 3: So let's get to those top five in a second. Well,

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Speaker 3: let's hear from CD himself. I tried to encapsulate it,

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Speaker 3: but never never as good as the man himself.

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Speaker 4: How does this wide receiver rank.

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Speaker 9: For us of the lague? I like us versus anybody,

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Speaker 9: honestly versus anyone in any room. I don't care what

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Speaker 9: they be saying in the media. I see it. I

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Speaker 9: ignore it. Let's see other September. I don't really do

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Speaker 9: too much talking.

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Speaker 4: Give me a little bit more. I see it. I

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Speaker 4: ignore it.

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Speaker 3: Brother, you know, I mean he could have gone like

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Speaker 3: because we we're gonna use the sound bites. I mean

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Speaker 3: they're basically chilling as WWE superstars in a lot of these,

745
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Speaker 3: especially as they say, hey, I can get the ball,

746
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Speaker 3: but off the top and Bengals defense continues to stink.

747
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Speaker 3: So long as Joe Burrow is upright, Jamar Chase is

748
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Speaker 3: gonna get fed right. We could just agree, set it

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Speaker 3: and forget it wrong, go cemented number one in our

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Speaker 3: sharpie pens, and then we start looking at Jefferson, Lamb, Hohoka, Nakua.

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Speaker 3: Are you trusting that Matthew Stafford makes it a full seventeen?

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Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe not. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors is currently the number five. We talked about

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Speaker 3: the Giants quarterbacking room last night, and not with too

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Speaker 3: much positivity, but I look at it like you got

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Speaker 3: chasing Jefferson. I would put Lamb ahead of Jefferson because

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Speaker 3: of the questions of McCarthy. Lamb is growing up to

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Speaker 3: number two today. I'll take Jefferson at three and then

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Speaker 3: four and five. We can debate a little bit. If

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Speaker 3: we weren't gonna jump on board the train and I

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Speaker 3: had Drake London, I just put d l in my

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Speaker 3: little list. Then I'll slide him in as a price

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Speaker 3: shot that if this breaks right, and we'll hear from

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Speaker 3: Michael Pennix about who he thinks, because we'll talk tight

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Speaker 3: ends later.

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Speaker 4: See if the old.

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Speaker 3: Fool me ones kind of the philosophy comes in. But

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Speaker 3: I'll take London fourth. And then there's a bunch of

769
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Speaker 3: disarray in Detroit, and I know the coordinator's gone, and

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Speaker 3: everybody's looking at Ben Johnson whenever he practice rep in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: But I'm on Ross. San Bron is still gonna get fed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's still gonna be one hundred catch guy, dump the ball,

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Speaker 3: good things happen.

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Speaker 4: So he's still number five for them.

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Speaker 5: And they should be able to protect Jared Goff, which

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Speaker 5: lows him to throw. Despite the changes that went on,

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Speaker 5: I have no problem with that. I don't have those

778
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Speaker 5: last two in my top five. But I love the Falcons.

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Speaker 5: I told you I think that Pennix could be a

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Speaker 5: top ten quarterback. People have them around twenty four to

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Speaker 5: twenty five. I think that the Falcons are just going

782
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Speaker 5: to be really really good offensively almost said great, but

783
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Speaker 5: really really good. I put Brian Thomas for I put

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Speaker 5: Nico Collins five.

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Speaker 3: So you think the one hundred question quiz is going

786
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Speaker 3: to take Trevor Lawrence that I just.

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Speaker 5: Don't know what else they have. I know they can

788
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 5: we expect Travis Hunter to have this role, but Thomas

789
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Speaker 5: was legit, much to my surprise, and then Nico Collins

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Speaker 5: is quickly I just he's the guy, He's c J.

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Speaker 5: Stroud's guy. They just have to protect them.

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Speaker 4: That's the bottom line. He's Dan Bayer in for Jason.

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Speaker 3: I'm Mike will continue more fantasy talk, more across the

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Speaker 3: football landscape as we roll on. Let's go back to Cleveland,

795
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Speaker 3: because you got some interesting comments from you.

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Speaker 5: He'll remember like parts of it. They were trying to

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Speaker 5: They wanted me to show up to this thing. They

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Speaker 5: wanted me to go on a trip with them the

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Speaker 5: next day to Saint Louis, Like like, no way, Like

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Speaker 5: it's not gonna happen. I know, I'm twenty two and dumb,

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Speaker 5: but like I'm not that dumb. It was.

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Speaker 3: We all responded to those ads and found ourselves in

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Speaker 3: a room that you slinked out of five minutes.

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Speaker 5: And we all know those photo albums that had that

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Speaker 5: Like that was like there was their special photo album.

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Speaker 5: My goodness, I go, I know, I get it. I understand.

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Speaker 5: I was. I don't even want to say I was foolish.

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Speaker 5: I was naive. I didn't understand.

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Speaker 3: Well, we were all looking for a job. We yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're about this, just a couple of years apart of it.

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Speaker 3: Job market is rough now depending on what you're trying

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Speaker 3: a miserable experience. You're like, yeah, we all want five

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Speaker 3: years experience. I just graduated college. What do you want

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Speaker 3: from me? I did tasseled corn, and I worked sorting

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Speaker 5: My experience at the Highway fifty one truck stop in

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Speaker 5: you also needed to make money. So that's what I

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Speaker 5: Everything that they say about it, it's true, it's awful.

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Speaker 3: You just felt filthy, and then you went back to

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Speaker 4: All it goes to it.

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Speaker 3: But we've been talking about the Browns from the quarterbacking

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Speaker 3: position and trying to figure out and read the tea

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Speaker 3: leaves of what they go forward with this season. Right,

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Speaker 3: they draft Dylan Gabriel and they draft Door Sanders, eventually

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Speaker 3: ending everybody's long nightmare. If you were covering the draft,

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Speaker 3: Here's another spot where there might be a quarterback Nope,

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Speaker 3: you've got two Super Bowl champions on the roster, and

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Speaker 3: you decide how much you want to ascribe that value

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Speaker 3: to the second guy. But currently running with the ones,

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Speaker 3: the great Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco, who won Comeback

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Speaker 3: Player of the Year coming off his couch and leading

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Speaker 3: a lot of debate as to how good or poor

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00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: a lot of room for error in the six division games,

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Speaker 3: that's for damn sure. But we look at the quarterback

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Speaker 3: position and the battle through and trying to determine, well,

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Speaker 3: how many of these guys will actually stay right, and

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Speaker 3: seven and we're an offseason training and oh, look at

864
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: the deep ball. He's like, yeah, if he doesn't have

865
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: someone lighting his ass in the ground, any.

866
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 5: Quarterback except for Drew Brees.

867
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: Poor guy's got no arm left, as we saw in

868
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: the final year of his pro career, and now he

869
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: talks about it. At this point. Everything's underhanded throws to

870
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: his kids. But except for him, everybody could throw the

871
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: ball sixty yards with a step through without waiting for

872
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: someone to take their knee out or plant them on

873
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: their ass. So take all that with a grain assault.

874
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: But certainly the heighte machine for Shador was out front

875
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: and center during some of those workouts in camp, Eh,

876
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: not so much. And now you've got Andrew Berry step

877
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: into the forefront, going, Hey, it's possibility that we come

878
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: to camp out of camp and go into the season

879
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: with all four guys in tow. Which is a bold strategy,

880
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Cotton in a league where you value every roster spot.

881
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: Part of it maybe thinking that long term Flacco or

882
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: Picket have some value for a second or third day

883
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 3: draft pick, depending on the desperation of a team that

884
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: suffers an injury and veteran in presence to bring the

885
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: other two guys along. But all of it to say,

886
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: it is a kind of a curious situation. Let's let's

887
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: hear from Andrew Berry on the situation he's got with

888
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: his QBS quarterbacks.

889
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: Do you see a pathway to have four an opening

890
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: day roster?

891
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: I do is that you know in night of the

892
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: asset that a quarterback is he largely looked at the

893
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: last five spots for rosters, more developmental spots, and that

894
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: can come from any position.

895
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: So if there are four that are.

896
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: Fifty three man worthy and we think it makes the

897
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: most sense for us to keep them, Google Yah, fifty

898
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: three worthy, those five are developmental. That might be the

899
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: first time I've ever really heard a GM put it

900
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: in those terms.

901
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 5: Sure, I'll tell you what like, when you go down

902
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 5: to a roster and you look at how it's set,

903
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: you'll see beat writers predict the roster. It's kind of

904
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 5: like predicting the NCAA tournament teams. You're going to get

905
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: fifty eight out of fifty nine just because of what

906
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: it is. You're the last eight or nine that you're

907
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: not nest necessarily sure about. And the Browns use their

908
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 5: way of doing it. I think it's an interesting angle

909
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 5: on how they do it. I'm not sure how many

910
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: other teams do it, but I assume that it's more

911
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 5: than the Cleveland Browns. I think that the question, the

912
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 5: way that it was asked, not criticizing the reporter by

913
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 5: any means, but gave Andrew Berry a bit of an

914
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: out you can desire you're going to keep? Is the

915
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: plan to keep four quarterbacks? It was do you see

916
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: a pathway? Well, of course, yeah, it just may not

917
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 5: be realistic. There may be ninety nine other ones that

918
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: only have three. I just you mentioned earlier with the

919
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 5: Jets and the Kirk Cousins photoshops after the justin fields

920
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 5: injury first broke. If you're the Browns sitting there, aren't

921
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 5: you kind of looking at the same looking If so,

922
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 5: there's something the opportunity, yes else around there with either

923
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: Flacco or Picket, you know in that scenario, the I

924
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: just don't know how you would keep that. Like the Seahawks,

925
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 5: for example, are gonna have three quarterbacks and Starnold, Drew

926
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: Lock and Jalen Milroe, who the drafted. Well, you can

927
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: use Milrow in a lot of different spots. It'll be

928
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: interesting to see how they do their roster. But are

929
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 5: you gonna put shudor Sanders on practice squad? Like like

930
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 5: what like? Are you gonna put them on the fifty three?

931
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: Male?

932
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: I just it doesn't It doesn't make a lot of

933
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 5: sense to hold four, especially just considering the spot that

934
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 5: the Browns are in, when some teams are only holding

935
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 5: over or holding on two to two quarterbacks of the roster.

936
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some of.

937
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: It plays to what we were talking about a little

938
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: bit last night in terms of, you know, your public

939
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: speaking points. As much as we look at Mike Brown

940
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: and Jerry Jones and shrug our shoulders and going, really

941
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: we need to air all this out. Maybe got a mouthpiece.

942
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: It's early camp. You give us some uh, you know,

943
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: some scraps to go fight over on the yard, right,

944
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: But why upset the room at this point if you

945
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: legitimately see a path, not not the pathway to the

946
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: four guys, but the you're gonna have a competition for

947
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 3: as many reps as you can because in another week's

948
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: time that starts to funnel down, right, and in terms

949
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: of who's getting mean, meaningful reps unless you're meeting in

950
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: the practice bubble after curfew to run some routes and stuff.

951
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 3: But all of that to say, yeah, we don't it's

952
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: kind of saying we don't know. But why upset the

953
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: room right where there's all these rumors and everybody looking

954
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: for any bit that they can run on shouldear Sanders right,

955
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: because in our media, in our media space, right, you've

956
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: got cheerleaders like to take it to the extreme. It's

957
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 3: the lebron James. It could be the most innocuous comment possible,

958
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: but we're going to dissect it in voice inflection if

959
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: we have video of it. How was he sitting, did

960
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: his eyebrow raise? Who was he looking at? Did he smirk?

961
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: It a guy.

962
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: As he was saying it, we do all that, and

963
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: anything we get about Shadear Sanders has been the same thing.

964
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: How do we bring Dion's name into it? How do

965
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: we talk about whatever it is, nepotism, legacy history? Does

966
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: he get a fair shake? Is it because of the

967
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: family name?

968
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: Throw out? You know your call sign and see where.

969
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: Where the bodies land in terms of you know, the

970
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: vote of your audience in that moment, kind of like

971
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: it's a reality show where you have to survive to

972
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: the next week. But for Shagara Sanders, that's what you get, right,

973
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: It's grist for the mill. Dylan Gabriel is just going

974
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: to work right, Nobody cares. Maybe he shows up, maybe

975
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: he plays, maybe he doesn't. He's the fourth guy in

976
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: this race, even though he was drafted before Shadur. But

977
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: it feels like from a pr standpoint, I mean, there's

978
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of want if you're the Browns,

979
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: they're selling a lot of jerseys and whatever else. The

980
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: worst thing in the world would be the Yeah, he's

981
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: just not good enough and we have to cut him.

982
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you'll have made some money, but it won't

983
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 3: be the cash cow and storyline that threads through. As

984
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: for the veterans, Yeah, you're waiting by the phone for

985
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: every practice report from Adam Schefter. That makes it sound

986
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: like a guy's getting amputated.

987
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's that's considering that Joe Flacco led them

988
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 5: to the playoffs two years ago and then they completely

989
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 5: botched his bringing back last year because they didn't want

990
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 5: the distraction. So now you bring him back and you

991
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: have a whole other distraction now with Shador Sanders. It

992
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 5: just is more of the same with the Cleveland Browns.

993
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 5: And honestly, Mike, I know that the team is not

994
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 5: at fault for the Quinn shown Judkins situation. That doesn't

995
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 5: help this offseason. He paid Miles Garrett forty million dollars,

996
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: but the first part of the NFL offseason for the

997
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: Browns was how Miles Garrett wanted to play for all

998
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 5: these other teams because the Browns we weren't Super Bowl contenders.

999
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: They pay him forty million dollars. In his tune changes, Oh,

1000
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 5: he said.

1001
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: They're going to the super Bowl yesterday.

1002
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: Yah, we got a shot, Like everybody, come on, there's

1003
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: that check cleared.

1004
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 5: Right when things are happening in the offseason or things

1005
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 5: are happening in the preseason aren't going their way, maybe

1006
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: to no fault of their own. It doesn't bode well

1007
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 5: for the season, and this is a team that we're

1008
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 5: not expecting a lot from. The Dylan Gabriel thing is interesting, Mike,

1009
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: because I'm wondering, does Dylan Gabriel like have to significantly

1010
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: outperform shaudor Sanders in this scenario or is it just

1011
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 5: Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski taking to what you say.

1012
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: He's a third round pick, He's who they invested in.

1013
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 5: The fifth round pick of Sanders sure seemed to be

1014
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: an ownership call, but does Dylan Gabriel have to do more?

1015
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: They're gonna be must watch TV in the preseason, but

1016
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 5: the other thirty one teams you may not care. But

1017
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 5: when the Browns play and you watch those like, that's

1018
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: gonna be must watch TV. I guarantee you and Jason

1019
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 5: will be talking about it shortly after each night's games

1020
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 5: and how they're going to be. They will be the

1021
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 5: mussy team of the preseason, which by the way, doesn't

1022
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: bode well for the regular season. But that's no shocker

1023
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 5: when it comes to the Browns.

1024
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 3: Well, number twelve in your fantasy wide receivers. A year ago,

1025
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy had himself a nice big year. Just throw

1026
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: it up and let him go make plays.

1027
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 5: He did. There's no more Jamis Winston there. And if

1028
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 5: Joe Flacko's not going to play, you got Kenny Pickett

1029
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 5: thrown to you. And if Kenny Pickett doesn't work out,

1030
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: so you are going to then go to Flacco.

1031
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: Kenny, now that he's gotten away from Pittsburgh, does that

1032
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 3: change things? Can he be a different guy?

1033
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's the Trubisky deal. And

1034
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 5: I've told you this before. Trubisky when he went to Buffalo,

1035
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 5: not talking about his Bear's tenure, but when he went

1036
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 5: to Buffalo, everybody thought he was fixed. He took like

1037
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 5: six snaps in Buffalo. And so then he goes to

1038
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh and tries to be the starter there and it

1039
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 5: doesn't work out, and we're surprised. Like I kind of

1040
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 5: feel the same with Kenny Pickett in Philadelphia a little bit,

1041
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 5: maybe not exactly, but you go Philadelphia, you're back up there. Now.

1042
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 5: Guess what you you went through? You went through the

1043
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 5: car wash of another team and you came out and

1044
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 5: you had that Steeler's stink off of Yeah, if you

1045
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 5: will know he's going to be a different quarterback, I

1046
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: would bet not.

1047
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1048
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: I just think the common denominator of how future that

1049
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh offense has been for so long that anytime a

1050
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: guy gets a chance out there, it's like I wish

1051
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: and hope that it was centralized and not every one

1052
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: of these guys that was picked high as a buzz,

1053
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 3: don't you.

1054
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 5: Teddy Pickett was taken by the Steelers because they needed

1055
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 5: a quarterback. He went to pitt He was in there.

1056
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in the backyard. They knew him better

1057
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: than anybody. Yeah, all of those stuff. And again, you know,

1058
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: we talked about it a little bit last night, is

1059
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: I'll always defend your right to make that pick, no

1060
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: matter how insane it may be. In the end, y'all call,

1061
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: it costs you your job eventually, So you know, hired

1062
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: to be fired and make those big, bold proclamations. But

1063
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: for Andrew Berrying Company, makes for a fascinating preseason. And

1064
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: I think just quickly with the Dylan Gabriel thing, Yeah,

1065
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to grossly outperform Shdor Sanders, big a

1066
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: story the other way.

1067
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 5: I think yeah, I think so as well. It could

1068
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 5: just unless again, somebody gets hurt and then you move

1069
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 5: Flacco out and then you can keep all that.

1070
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: Then it suddenly fixes itself. We fix the glitch straight

1071
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 3: out of office space.