WEBVTT - This is Dramatic: Cringe Couples

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I am Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Harrison alongside Lauren Zema, coming to you from the home

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<v Speaker 1>office in Austin, Texas. It is good to be back home,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's a little rainy and stormy down here

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<v Speaker 1>in Central Texas. Yeah, we're Central Texas, And uh, did.

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<v Speaker 2>You just forget where we live?

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, I was trying to think where Austin

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<v Speaker 1>was if.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the directionally challenged one. Not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I grew up in North Texas, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think North Texas, Dallas, Fort Worth, and then yeah, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized living here.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to sound dumb. Texas is big.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if if you've ever had to drive, which I have,

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<v Speaker 1>I drove to California and or you'll drive out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Panhandle to go to Lubbock or out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>did some work out there back when I was a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas is like its own country.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you've I remember because your brother lives down in

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<v Speaker 3>South Padre where I've never been, and we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>visiting him, and you're like well, yeah, we could drive,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, from some places, South Padre is like

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<v Speaker 3>an eight hour drive and I was like an eight

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<v Speaker 3>hour drive, and you're like, yeah, and you're in Texas

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to drive down from Dallas to South Padre.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like our beach, and it's a twelve hour

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<v Speaker 1>drive from there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a twelve hour drive from there. You can traverse

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<v Speaker 3>multiple states in that. I used to live in Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>drive on school breaks to Missou University of Missouri, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like a seven hour drive in the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time. My guess is you could if you

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<v Speaker 1>started on the Red River, the border of Oklahoma and Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you went twelve hours north, you could probably

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<v Speaker 1>go through four states.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Really getting I mean, you know, the traversing of Texas

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<v Speaker 3>is very personal. But I just what's funny is you've

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<v Speaker 3>just come back from San Diego, which was only a

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<v Speaker 3>two hour flight. That's one thing I love about living

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<v Speaker 3>in Austin. Everything's a two hour flight from here. So

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<v Speaker 3>you just got home.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I was out there doing some great stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with Calloway Golf. My friend's over there at Callaway who

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working with and have supported for ten years

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<v Speaker 1>and vice versa. So we did a little fun, little

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<v Speaker 1>project you'll see coming up probably in a month or so,

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<v Speaker 1>but also hit some golf balls.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that was the cutest part. He's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>this thing with Calloway and you kind of buried the

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<v Speaker 3>lead as we say. He tells me as he's about

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<v Speaker 3>to leave to go to the airport, well, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to fit me for new clubs. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>babe at this point with my little sports awareness. But

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<v Speaker 3>five years in, even I know that's a big deal

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<v Speaker 3>and that's very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called knowing your audience. There's just certain things I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to bore you with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for you about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good day for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I listen, it's very different to like watch you play

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<v Speaker 3>five holes of golf than it is for you to

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<v Speaker 3>just tell me I'm getting fitted for new clubs. And

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're going to love that, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>very excited for you for that night.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thanks for being happy for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I'm glad you're home because I right now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on five hours of sleep. I probably sound like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot sleep when you're not home. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>why this is now the case, because for sure, when

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<v Speaker 3>we first moved to Austin, I was scared if you

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<v Speaker 3>were gone. I just was like, we're in this new house,

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<v Speaker 3>in a new neighborhood. I know, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>reason to be nois Yeah. Well, and honestly, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>a woman, typically you're kind of raised to be afraid. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you're I grew up in Chicago. Chicago has

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<v Speaker 3>very dangerous parts. You're raised to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be afraid of all sorts of different things.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I'm alone in this new house, I also

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<v Speaker 3>read a study that biologically, like you know how sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you'll say it's so hard to sleep in a new

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<v Speaker 3>place the first night, right, that's actually a thing for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Your defense mechanism kicking out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you as a human, it's your your biology saying wait,

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<v Speaker 3>what are potential new threats here? It's like you almost

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<v Speaker 3>go into survival mode. You don't know the terrors of

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<v Speaker 3>this place, but I now know the terrors of our home.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar. We've lived here for I've been here like

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<v Speaker 3>seven eight months full time now, and for some reason

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<v Speaker 3>I still I mean, I actually it's weird. It bothers

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<v Speaker 3>me a little bit to say this out loud, because

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<v Speaker 3>I consider myself a very independent person. But I have

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<v Speaker 3>become I shouldn't feel bad saying this. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a good thing. I have become dependent on you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I just don't sleep well when you're not

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<v Speaker 3>with me. And I was up till four in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>not scared, just like laying in bed trying to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>and couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I always feel bad when I wake up on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and I'll go to Instagram and I will immediately

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<v Speaker 1>see content from you, and I'm thinking, oh no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two in the morning, and I'm looking at wedding potential,

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<v Speaker 3>wedding color palettes because I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like your take on wedding font And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, You're right, very observant, even at three or

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning, whenever you were looking at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why everybody's using the same face.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this one wedding font. I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's called I might be getting this wrong

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<v Speaker 3>ballista or something, okay, And it was making me go

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<v Speaker 3>insert pun here ballistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like, why is this wedding font the wedding fund.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on the welcome signs, it's on the menus, and

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason it's become the font. No shade to

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<v Speaker 3>the fund. But we will not be using that fond.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's overused.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and by the way, luckily I avoided the

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<v Speaker 1>big ground stop because I flew Southwest to go direct

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<v Speaker 1>to out to San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>This was wild.

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<v Speaker 3>They grounded. The FA grounded all Southwest airplanes as if

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<v Speaker 3>they needed another.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, had to be a computer hacks. They

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<v Speaker 1>never really came out and said, but it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>someone hacked the system. They got it fits right, Your spidey.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense is going up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking, right, why would the FA ground around Hire

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<v Speaker 3>not in.

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<v Speaker 2>A city nationwide? All Southwest?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, let me just give a shout out,

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<v Speaker 1>because no one gives a shout out when things go

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<v Speaker 1>well on time. Everybody was lovely laughed with the flight

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<v Speaker 1>attendants had a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, yeah, oh good, Because I will say you

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<v Speaker 3>you don't always love a.

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<v Speaker 1>Southwest I don't. It's not my thing. This was just

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<v Speaker 1>the most convenient flight and it worked perfectly. So not

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest fan. It feels like I'm getting on a

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<v Speaker 1>bus with a lot of people, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not my favorite thing. But in this these are both pastges.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't like not having a seat. He likes to

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<v Speaker 3>know where his seat is and get to.

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<v Speaker 1>His sat like order.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, really what it's about. I know it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing. We've actually flown Spirit together before

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<v Speaker 3>because we could only we had to go to this

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<v Speaker 3>wedding in Kansas City and the only NonStop flight with Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd really never flown it, but we flew it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said you liked Spirit better than the Southwest

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<v Speaker 3>because he's an assigned seat.

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<v Speaker 1>You've assigned me a number anyway. I'm right, you're a twelve, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've already given me a number. Is it such

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<v Speaker 1>a reach to just make that number a seat that

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<v Speaker 1>I sit in.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that's a thing. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it more efficient. I would be interested to

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<v Speaker 3>know if they're boarding times or longer they must be

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<v Speaker 3>without people having seats.

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<v Speaker 1>I get where it came from back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, they started in Dallas and out

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<v Speaker 1>of love Field, and it was a cheaper, more affordable

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<v Speaker 1>airline and that that whole thing. It really was like

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<v Speaker 1>it really was like the Greyhound of the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>But what makes it cheaper to not have I think.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just no premium, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody I'm asking why is it? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>What makes it more cost efficient to not have assigned seats?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing from either side, like why does it make your

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<v Speaker 3>ticket cheaper?

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<v Speaker 2>And why does it save them money out of it?

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<v Speaker 1>But then we should be careful what we asked for.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they're going to start selling seats and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first five rows or I get.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I'm an idiot. It's because there isn't a first

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<v Speaker 3>class and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no time.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I should have thought about that. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>think what happens on a Southwest flight because of that system.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it creates more tension from the start, because

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<v Speaker 3>everybody is like clamoring to find their spot in line,

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<v Speaker 3>clamoring to find a seat there. People are saving seats

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<v Speaker 3>for people, and people are worried are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>have overhead bin space? Are they going to get a

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<v Speaker 3>middle It's like I do find myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I just flew Southwest a few weeks ago, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>I do find myself. I'm kind of more tense from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning and the right just getting in line today and

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<v Speaker 1>you know people are walking up. What number you? What

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<v Speaker 1>number are you? And it's just there's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be a better way. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>better way. We figured it out. There are seats.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this brings us to our first dramatic headline of

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<v Speaker 3>the week. Actually, I mean we sound like duebs, but

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<v Speaker 3>we could talk about airline etiquette and our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 3>air air I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt the majority of the last twenty years on airplanes,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm well versed.

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<v Speaker 3>On If you guys ever see I've told him before

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<v Speaker 3>he should take to Instagram and do a how I travel.

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<v Speaker 3>This man is the most efficient traveler.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>For the shows for twenty years, he's been to how

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<v Speaker 3>many countries you've lost track of, how many countries you've

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<v Speaker 3>been to, how many layovers, international flights, national flights, overnight flights.

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<v Speaker 2>He is such a good, efficient traveler. It's shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I could be an airport employee, like

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<v Speaker 1>airports could hire me a consultant. If you will an

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<v Speaker 1>airport consultant, I will come in and lay It's like

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<v Speaker 1>when someone lays out your kitchen for you. You want

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<v Speaker 1>that perfect triangle, and this is there. I could do

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<v Speaker 1>that at airports. I could make him so efficient.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've probably seen, Actually I've never asked you this.

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<v Speaker 3>You've probably seen a lot on planes. What is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the weirder or most trouble causing incidents you've ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen on a plane?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the scariest and weirdest was when we were in

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<v Speaker 1>China and we were flying out and we had shot

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<v Speaker 1>all night. Everybody was exhausted, and we finally crawled on

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<v Speaker 1>this airplane. It was one of those double decker airplanes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're leaving the country, and so we somehow we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had the whole top deck. It was all bachelor people,

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<v Speaker 1>producers and a lot of people popped ambiens, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was just ready to crouch.

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<v Speaker 2>They're exhausted, they're exhaust you've been filming. They just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally got in, we took off. Everybody lays their

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<v Speaker 1>seat back, everybody's asleep. I wake up what everybody's I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like? Days later, I wake up and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look out the window and I see trees and

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<v Speaker 1>it just jars me awake. It just quickly one in

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<v Speaker 1>one didn't equal to and I'm like, why am I

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<v Speaker 1>seeing trees out the window? We've been flying for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time. And I hear the person in the loud

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<v Speaker 1>speaker talking the flight attendant at the pilot, whoever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We are returning back to the airport. Something's wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>the landing gear. It was just all of it was

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<v Speaker 1>so weird. Long story short, we had to get off

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. We land it was this abrupt I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to hear that something's wrong with the landing gear.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like we're going to do a fly by.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe it was a bomb scare because it

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<v Speaker 1>was just really sketchy the way they were doing it

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<v Speaker 1>and the way he kind of threw it down on

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<v Speaker 1>the runway. And we had to carry, literally carry people

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<v Speaker 1>off the plane because everyone was kind of drugged up

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<v Speaker 1>and half ambient stoned, and we were like carrying people,

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<v Speaker 1>pouring them into the.

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<v Speaker 2>Loud Ambient had been kicking it. Oh yeah, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put my arm around you, I'll carry.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody was pretty I again, pro tip, don't pop

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<v Speaker 1>an ambien when you're sitting there on the runway. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, look at the tips. Make sure you're well

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<v Speaker 3>into the air before you take the sleeping pill.

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<v Speaker 1>And so everybody was smart and they did that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we still turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, truly, I really do think you should take to

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<v Speaker 3>the gram and reveal some of your tips. But this

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<v Speaker 3>gets us to so our first dramatic headline of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually have two airplane stories. The umbrella drama is

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<v Speaker 3>drama on airplanes, which I mean, sure, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we see it all the time, but this one made

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<v Speaker 3>headlines like I was seeing it all over. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>calling it baby popcorn. And basically what happened is this

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<v Speaker 3>United flight, they're passing out popcorn. I've noticed the airlines

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting away from peanuts. Don't know why they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it sooner.

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<v Speaker 2>People have severe.

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<v Speaker 3>Pena analogies, but I guess they're passing out popcorn. And

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<v Speaker 3>this pregnant mom is on the flight with her two

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<v Speaker 3>little kids and her baby through the popcorn everywhere or.

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<v Speaker 2>Spilled it whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And allegedly, according to the pregnant woman's family, the flight

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<v Speaker 3>attendant said to her, the captain says, you need to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up every single piece of this popcorn, like made

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<v Speaker 3>her get.

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<v Speaker 2>Down and pick it up.

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<v Speaker 3>And the woman's pregnant and she's embarrassed and she's like

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<v Speaker 3>crying on her hands and knees picking up this popcorn.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it becomes a very serious incident because her husband

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<v Speaker 3>is a pro baseball player. His sister is Jesse James

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<v Speaker 3>Decker country singer. So it's now it's got celebrity spotlight

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<v Speaker 3>on it, this story, and the husband went on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>like slams United, says how could.

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<v Speaker 2>You do this? But then he got a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of backlash because people are saying, dude, do you hear yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>You sound so privileged right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Like these are your kids, you should you should clean

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<v Speaker 3>up after them, right, So the question becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>These are these are not like housekeepers? Well, I f

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<v Speaker 1>flight attendants.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's interesting because some people seem to think that

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<v Speaker 3>it is the flight attendant or the airline cruise job

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<v Speaker 3>to clean up, Like I'm paying to be here and

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<v Speaker 3>you should clean up. And a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 3>pointing out the detail of United provided the popcorn.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't bring these MESSI snacks on well, but where

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<v Speaker 2>do you fall on this?

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<v Speaker 3>As a seasoned longtime traveler well, and as a dad

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<v Speaker 3>is traveler.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, let me just back this

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<v Speaker 1>into being ad. And I see sometimes people will leave restaurants, airplanes,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you, and it looks like World War three

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<v Speaker 1>took place.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought of restaurants too, like when they leave and

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<v Speaker 3>the high chair. You walk in and you almost see

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<v Speaker 3>the carnage. A high chair is still sitting there and

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<v Speaker 3>you see all the food around it on the floor,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, oh, something bad.

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<v Speaker 1>My theory is, I'm probably not going to leave it

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<v Speaker 1>cleaner than I found it, or even as clean, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do a really good job. If my

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<v Speaker 1>kids destroyed popcorn and threw it everywhere, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped the act and progress. And second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I would clean up. If I knew my kids dumped

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of anything on the floor, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>clean that up. I'm also self conscious like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would have done that at a restaurant as well.

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<v Speaker 1>If my kids tore apart a pancake and threw it

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, no, I'm not just going to

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<v Speaker 1>leave that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel the same like I've opened snacks and spilled

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<v Speaker 3>on airplanes before. I always try to pick up everything

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<v Speaker 3>I can see easy. They're not giving us a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of leg room on the planes these days, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>reaching down into the seat. And by the way, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not cleaning that great down there anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But if kids leave little crumbs or whatever, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's not crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not crazy. And look, we all know supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>a cru is going to come in and clean up.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, I definitely would have made the

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<v Speaker 3>effort to clean up. But I also think I think

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<v Speaker 3>both sides are a little off here in that if

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<v Speaker 3>the flight attendant was wording things like that to her, well,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're just like, you're being kind of harsh to

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<v Speaker 3>a pregnant woman who's alone with her two kids, like

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<v Speaker 3>read the room a little bit, and I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, It's just I think there was a

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<v Speaker 3>missed opportunity for human moments across all sides here. One,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody should try to clean up after themselves and their family.

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<v Speaker 3>But two, when a woman's pregnant and traveling alone with

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<v Speaker 3>two kids, can everybody pitch in and help out a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit? Like if I was a fellow passenger, I

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<v Speaker 3>probably would have said, hey, can I help you clean

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<v Speaker 3>that up a little bit? You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Were people stepping over this crying, pregnant woman as they

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<v Speaker 3>walked off the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder too, if she says no and leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they gonna do? I mean, is Sky Marshall

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<v Speaker 1>going to arrest her for not cleaning up popcorn? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>I also think, to be honest, I don't think this

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<v Speaker 3>ever needed to go to Twitter, Like, come on, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>we did not need to take it to Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you got backlash for it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's creating a whole firestorm unless you're trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines. But I don't think you need I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was a fiery moment where you should have said,

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<v Speaker 3>put the phone down, do not tweet to.

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<v Speaker 1>Put this in his terms, that was a swing and

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<v Speaker 1>a miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, did he actually tweet that? Are you making

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<v Speaker 2>a sports joke?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a sports joke. He's a baseball guy. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the dad joke of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, we don't need to start that segment.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you so much, Okay, gonna button us up

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<v Speaker 3>with There is one more little airplane drama incident. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>this sweet because I wanted to get your take on

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<v Speaker 3>something else. You know, we all we tended. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>a viral video of somebody freaking out on a plane

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<v Speaker 3>every other but I think it's slowed down since the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily people were really on edge there. But this man

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<v Speaker 3>is on a flight might have been Southwest. The seats

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<v Speaker 3>did look blue. I'm not for sure though, And he

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<v Speaker 3>gets recorded by another passenger. He is screaming about a

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<v Speaker 3>baby screaming. Apparently a baby's been crying for forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>he says. And this guy is like, you telling the

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<v Speaker 3>flight attendants, you need to tell those parents to get

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<v Speaker 3>that baby to be quiet. We are in a tin can.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an echo chamber. You know that baby needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be quiet. I can't stand this. I hear it

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<v Speaker 3>through my headphones and he's yelling. And then he did

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<v Speaker 3>the thing which is like why do people ever do this?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it got to the point they asked him

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<v Speaker 3>to get off the plane. He wouldn't get off the plane.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole plane has to d plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, that breaks my soul when people do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Special place in jail for people like that, just take

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<v Speaker 1>him straight to jail. I mean, to ruin everybody else's day.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you not see that everyone is looking at

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<v Speaker 3>you like, dude, seriously, you're the problem, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get off the plane. How can you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Deckris Hair, just say that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so. I mean, that stuff drives me crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>these selfishness of that. But I'm also again, I go

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<v Speaker 1>right to the parent, and having been in those moments

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<v Speaker 1>where especially Joshua, for some reason, my son he just knew,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew when they closed the doors and we took

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<v Speaker 1>off and he would just start screaming and just he

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<v Speaker 1>was very difficult on airplanes. And inevitably you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>going on a date, on a honeymoon, on a trip, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look at you or they'll say something like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I want a screaming, psychotic baby in

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<v Speaker 1>my arms right now?

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<v Speaker 2>As the parent?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I'm instigating this? Do you think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying this? I'm not happy either, but I can't fix this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I give parents all the grace in

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<v Speaker 1>the world when they are dealing with kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You've actually made me softer to this. I used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would never in my life say something

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<v Speaker 3>to a parent about their kid like and I I

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<v Speaker 3>of course would never freak out the way this man was.

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<v Speaker 3>But I used to kind of be like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>can't they like like are they even trying? And I

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<v Speaker 3>remember you told me they're trying, Like, I promise you

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<v Speaker 3>this parent is trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have to take Joshua to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I would lock us in the bathroom, little airplane bathroom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>for like fifteen or twenty he would just screaming. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't his ears. He would just he would start

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<v Speaker 1>throwing these tantrums. Again. He just knew how to push

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<v Speaker 1>my buttons. And it was just it tests every ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of your patients. And so the last thing you need

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<v Speaker 1>is for some you know, jack hole behind you to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, hey, can you quiet your baby down?

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<v Speaker 3>I look, it's I mean, that's the answer, right, You can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, And I think the guy kind of made

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<v Speaker 3>the comparison of like if I was screaming, people would

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<v Speaker 3>tell me, well, of course, like you're an adult and

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<v Speaker 3>you can be quiet, like.

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<v Speaker 2>If two people.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, there have been times when I,

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<v Speaker 3>again I haven't said anything. But like if two people,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's like an early morning flight and two people

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<v Speaker 3>have decided they're gonna chat full volume and like have

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation because they're awake, read the room. Ever, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>else read the plane. Everyone else is asleep on this plane,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you hear You're the only ones talking.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a sweeter moment a version of all this today.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was this lovely family in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a baby, and to keep the baby happy,

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<v Speaker 1>they would kind of lift it up, and so the

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<v Speaker 1>baby could see obviously to my row and was facing us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sitting with three guys that the plane

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<v Speaker 1>was full. And so there was this kind of younger

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<v Speaker 1>guy sitting next to me and an older gentleman sitting

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the aisle, and I'm on the window,

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<v Speaker 1>and the baby kind of looks at me, and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of make goo googoo face and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make the baby smile. And then I noticed the

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<v Speaker 1>baby kind of looks at the guy next to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He does the same thing. We didn't know each other

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<v Speaker 1>were doing this. I just caught it out of the

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<v Speaker 1>corner of my eye. And then the old guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle did the same thing. It was the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us were all like making baby, We were all

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<v Speaker 1>like making funny faces at this kid. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>man if I would have loved to have caught that

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<v Speaker 1>on video, because we all just looked like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of idiots like trying to like make this baby laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was kind of cute.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course it's cute, because that's the great thing

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<v Speaker 3>about babies too. They can, I mean, they can elicit

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<v Speaker 3>all the instant emotions, instant frustration, instant joy. But airplanes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and airlines, airports, it always fascinates me because

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<v Speaker 3>you can get people at their worst, you can also

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<v Speaker 3>get people at their best. And I love a moment

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<v Speaker 3>like that where the three of you were like already

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<v Speaker 3>and willing to kind of help these parents and music.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer of we are a unit. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're on this plane, we are We're a team. We

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<v Speaker 1>are a team. Let's get through this together, survival. I

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<v Speaker 1>will help you, you help me. You need headphones, what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to wipe, whatever it is. Let's take care

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<v Speaker 1>of each other. And I think if we all have

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<v Speaker 1>that team attitude, help people put their bags up, help

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<v Speaker 1>people By the way, if someone's sitting in row five

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<v Speaker 1>and their bag is in row ten, ghet them their bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass it up, Yeah, pass it up, Pass it forward.

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<v Speaker 1>That be a part of a team.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, because I always think we're all in the

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<v Speaker 3>same boat here. It's like when somebody starts freaking out

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<v Speaker 3>because the plane's delayed. I'm like, you know, we're all here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all here together, man, we all got to figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of all being together, you and I obviously doing

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<v Speaker 1>this show together. It is sometimes frowned upon. Some people say,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever work with your spouse. Don't ever work with

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<v Speaker 1>your significant other. You're crazy to do so it's never

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<v Speaker 1>going to work. Well. Two very interesting topics this week

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<v Speaker 1>that have to do with spouses hosting shows. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Love is Blind Nick Lache Vanessla Shea And the now

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Mark show was Kelly and Ryan. They did

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, oh it's Kelly Mark, Wow, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus live with Kelly. All right, market, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Live with Kelly and Mark. They have the coffee mugs

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<v Speaker 1>to prove it. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's why it sounds different to me because he's

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<v Speaker 3>a one syllable name. It's like Kelly and Regis, Kelly

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 3>and Ryan Kelly and Michael Kelly and Mark and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's reg Regis who is Regis and he and

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<v Speaker 1>he co hosted with his wife from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I bring this up is both shows

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<v Speaker 1>critically had a bumpy road this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I have mixed I have a lot of mixed thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>on all of it. Well, you and I were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about this cause we're kind of like wet We.

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<v Speaker 1>Start with Love is Blind. Obviously much was made of

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix not being able to go live with the Love

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<v Speaker 1>is Blind reunion, leaving you know, Vanessa and Nick kind

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<v Speaker 1>of having to figure this thing out, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>probably not probably it had to have been a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>night to be there on set.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean, I will admit I was a little

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<v Speaker 3>shocked Netflix couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm going to forget.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a lot of funny tweets out there and

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, look, we've been doing live TV

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<v Speaker 3>for how long? And how did you not get it live?

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<v Speaker 3>But I also don't think in the end it really

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<v Speaker 3>mattered for them. I think that you know, they still

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<v Speaker 3>said they had something. I think they they rarely released

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers, but I probably in this case they wanted to,

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<v Speaker 3>and they said, like six and a half million.

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<v Speaker 1>People want I said the day after, I say, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not going to hurt Netflix. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt Love is Blind at all. No.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I mean I don't know you could argue

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 3>no press is bad press, like exactly. It got people

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Love is Blind reunion that they were

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to get it live and they couldn't. I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>But so it seems like what happened is that they

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<v Speaker 3>just taped it and didn't edit it anyway, like almost

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<v Speaker 3>probably at that point, they're tired, they've been filming all

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 3>they've been trying to get this tech bug fixed all night,

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<v Speaker 3>and they ended up just filming it and getting it

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<v Speaker 3>up as quickly as they as possible the next morning.

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 3>So they almost did kind of a live to tape

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<v Speaker 3>without any editing or cutting much out. It seems I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that for sure, but so Vanessa Leche particularly,

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<v Speaker 3>but both Nick and Vanessa have been trending on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>the subject of headlines about fans coming for their hosting

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<v Speaker 3>skills and critiquing their hosting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have mixed feelings about this because look.

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<v Speaker 3>On the one hand, I can't imagine how tired and

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 3>frustrated they were at that point when they've finally.

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<v Speaker 2>Started this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, I, you know, you and I both know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's like to have somebody come like people coming

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 3>for you, and how so I feel bad for them

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 3>in that because it's not it's never great when it

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 3>feels like the whole world is coming for you and

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<v Speaker 3>critiquing you.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I've seen some clips and

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I look, I learned in journalism school you are not

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<v Speaker 3>the story. You ask other people the questions, and you

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<v Speaker 3>are not part of the story. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>an issue people have as they feel like Vanessa was

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<v Speaker 3>injecting a lot of her own opinion into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>On the one hand, I I see the criticism, but

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<v Speaker 3>I also feel bad for them because they were like

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<v Speaker 3>caught in a mess of a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I always, you know, kind of insert myself into the Okay,

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>what would I feel? And there's an interesting dynamic and

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this is this is interesting for both Kelly and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>and suelos now and also for Nick and Vanessa. When

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<v Speaker 1>you are hosting as a couple you are. It's not

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 1>just a co host. This is your wife, this is

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>your significant other. So you're also judging them. You're judging

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 1>their body language, You're judging their dynamic. Are they touching

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>each other? Are they not? Like what kind of look

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>does Nick have on his face when Vanessa's talking and

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>vice versa. It's I got distracted because I'm thinking, what's

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>his thought bubble right now? What's he I'm thinking about them,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>less about what's going on in Love is blind and

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<v Speaker 1>this carried over in Kelly and Mark as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that they're going to have to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>because while it's kind of fun and cute to have

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>your husband as the co host, and they've look they've

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>they've co hosted together before, but this is different. This

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>is a job now that the show is now called

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Mark, So you got to figure out how

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you're on equal footing. Because before, when Mark would fill

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in as guest host, it was fun. It's like, oh

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>my husband Mark is here today, but it's Kelly's show.

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Kelly was the host. Mark was filling in, and I've

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I filled in it Regis and Kelly and Kelly and

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Ryan and I've hosted with Kelly several times, and when

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I went in with her, it was all deference towards her.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>This is her baby. I did my part as a

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>co host, but at the end of the day, I

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 1>realized it was her show and I'm going to do

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever I can to support her in the right.

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<v Speaker 3>As a guest host, you're not an equal. You're there

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 3>to you're the guest star. You're there to support the vibe,

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>but you don't know the vibe. Intimately, it's not your show.

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>And it's important that eventually they find that footing. And

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>again I give them a lot of grace day one,

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Week one, they're not going to find that and even

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<v Speaker 1>though they've worked together before, it's going to take weeks.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>It might take months for them to find that equal

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<v Speaker 1>footing where Mark feels like this is my show too,

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not just Kelly's show that she brought me into,

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<v Speaker 1>because it can't be that all the time. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that point where they are co hosts.

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.639
<v Speaker 3>It's also very different to suddenly be doing something together

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>every day, like you know, you might, I don't. They're

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 3>going to have to find that content balance. How much

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 3>do they talk about their personal life from home versus

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>not like, will it become too much because now it's

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 3>both of them relatable. Yeah, well it used to be

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Ryan would bring in his life, Kelly bring in hers.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Now you're just bringing in one life. They're sharing the

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 3>same life, you know. So it could bring a cool

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>dynamic of of their romance and relationship, but they've got

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 3>to figure it all out.

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I did not agree.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 3>There were like some headlines from the New York posts

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 3>like fans rip Kelly and Mark, and then I go

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>read the article and I hate this.

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just we dealt with this.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 3>It's clickbait, and it annoys me, not just because you

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and I dealt with this, but because again and look,

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to sit here and say I've been

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 3>perfect in every ethical way as a journalist. It's there's

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of personal experience in a journalism. It's it's

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 3>a very personal job, so you can't be perfect. But

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 3>we were, you know, taught to tell both sides of

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 3>the story. We were taught to bring real evidence and

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.959
<v Speaker 3>sourcing to reporting. What happens today is two tweets are

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 3>pulled and it's like Kelly and Ryan, Kelly and Mark

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 3>get critiqued about the new show, Right, why are these

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 3>two tweets from these random people who for all you

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 3>know are bots, for all you know, are the same

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 3>two people and it's a nobody regardless, That to me

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 3>is not headline deserving. And I thought that was just

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 3>searching for headline.

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>You easily could have found five tweets that said the opposite, right,

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing for Nick and Vanessa, And look,

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>they have been hosting this for obviously a while now,

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>but you know, Vanessa does more of the heavy lifting

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>than Nick does.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>That was interesting too, because you said that.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 3>And I will say, we did not watch the entire reunion,

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 3>like I'm way behind on Love Is Blind.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>We just watched some clips.

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 3>But you did say from the clips that you were

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of feeling like you wanted to hear more from Nick.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing you have to find too, is

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 3>that balance of how much you both talking, you know,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's a little harder when you're intimate with someone,

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 3>like how are you and I doing it is?

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.719
<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's a hard thing to do. Anyway,

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought of my situation and having if I had

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>a co host when I hosted the Tell Alls It's

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hard enough for me to try and control the room,

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>much less worry about somebody next to me and getting

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>them involved as well. That's that's just another layer to it,

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and it makes it very difficult. And we never went

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>live with our tell All specials. That's the other thing.

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>We would heavily, heavily edit those shows. They were long days,

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>as you know, those were long days.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Of there in the press rooms. I would take Adville.

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Before Preventative Minico.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 3>That quote from the office where Angela, if you watch

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 3>that show, is taking Adville and she goes, I'm just preparing,

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 3>like that's what I would do.

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>But look after the final rows. Those were live. But

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with specific segments, small groups of people, couples,

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're kind of moving through these relationships. Whereas when

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>you have these reunion shows, I think they had what

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>ten people on the set we have.

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I know that's not easy.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not easy, and it's not easy to make it

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>zip and make it move. That's why editing in those

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>situations is important, because not every interview, not every answer

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in question is great and so interesting that I think

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Netflix at that moment was probably pretty panicked of just

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>get this live to tape, get this out. This has

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>been a nightmare of a night, so I can only

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine how chaotic it was on the set and in

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that control room that night.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, I have to teet your horn every time I

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 3>see hosting that.

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I just think you're really good at it.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, by the way, And.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of messages about how great you

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>are at it and people being like, oh, I missed

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 3>him and I would have loved to see him do this,

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, So.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, well, and I think so far our dynamic is okay.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, let's talk about it.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Should we go and look, maybe we should be statistically

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>looking at what percentage of these episodes were each talking.

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I think pretty even when I listen back, it sounds

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>even you're listening.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, just kidding.

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to give a shout out and give credit

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>where credit's due. I am a swiftye first of all,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>first and foremost.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Everyone, this is why we're engaged.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I am a swifty. My daughter's a swifty, my fiance

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is a swifty. We're Taylor's sift.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we just actually we got your daughter, Taylor we

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>were able to get you guys, I was that person.

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>We along with Taylor's mom, the three of us were

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 3>on three different laptops for three hours trying to get

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Swift tickets and we were able to get two

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 3>tickets and we gave them to her as a surprise

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>birthday guest.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Years ago, my daughter Taylor, we were at at a concert,

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>at a Taylor Swift concert, and.

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>We're so confusing a Tayloring.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>We had the privilege of going backstage and Taylor Swift's

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>mom gave us a tour. And one of the things

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that oppressed me the most is that this is a

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>real family run, Taylor Swift run business. This woman handles

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>her own business. Nothing has left a chance. She sets

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>up the show, choreographs the show, sets up the design,

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>sets up her wardrobe. I think is versace by the

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>way this go and handles everything from top to bottom

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in her life and to me, so impressive. When Scooter

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Braun did the deal when bought her catalog, she went

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and said, no, no, no, no, We recorded every song so

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>she could own her own stuff. So not only is

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>she just the queen of music and the queen of

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>pop and all that stuff. She's just a badass business

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>woman and I'm just brilliant. So I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out because this was an amazing story. And

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I talked a little bit about this, and I know

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a little it gets into the business world. But

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>this FTX debacle where this Sam Bateman freed and this

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>FTX deal, this crypto exchange that went bankrupt, and it

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was really corrupt, really a big disaster, and a lot

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of celebrities like Tom Brady, like Steph Curry got check.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Shaquille O'Neil was involved in this, got swept

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>up in this. They took millions upon millions of dollars

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>in exchange for promoting and selling FTX in this company

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and Formula one. Well, there was one celebrity that didn't

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>take the money, and she looked deeper, and that was

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift. She was offered what is said to be

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>at least one hundred million dollars buy FTX to do

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a promotional deal and there was going to be NFTs

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>where probably they would give away concert tickets and it

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was this huge, huge endorsement deal. Again, a one hundred

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>million dollar deal even for Taylor Swift that's not something

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>to sneeze at. She turned it down because she gets

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of credit for it. But I'm guessing her dad,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>he used to work for Merrill Lynch and has a

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>smart financial mind. They look deeper into this and they

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>realize that these were unregistered securities.

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh so this is just coming out now that she Oh,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 3>because it's like in court.

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And all that is a court and all these celebrities

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are getting swept up in this and it just came

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>out that she was offered one hundred million dollars sponsorship deal,

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.479
<v Speaker 1>but she asked them, can you tell me that these

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>are not unregistered securities? Oh?

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Is this an email from Taylor or something that.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Is this is just a quote where this came from

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>this article that she and her team looked further into

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>this and didn't take the one hundred mil, whereas all

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of these other celebrities did and have and these other

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>celebrities I'm talking Tom Brady and look my tinfoil had

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>on total conspiracy theory. I still say something about Giselle

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and Tom had to do with this FTX thing.

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, interest you think the breakup in some way was.

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>About separating their money, getting their bank statements apart, I

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>still say there's something the Mighty senses, because yeah, I

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>just it was weird that all of that happened, his retirement,

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>his going back, their divorce was all centered around this

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>FTX because he's I.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Mean, I'm sorry, I don't know all about it, because

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>he's like at risk. He could have to pay money

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 3>for this, he could have to.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>There are people going after these celebrities saying, look, you

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:17.919
<v Speaker 1>endorse this.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Just regular every day people lost a lot of money

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>on this.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't get to just you know, I know Kim

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Kardashian had to pay a seven figure settlement when through

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a crypto deal that went wrong that she had endorsed.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, let us give Taylor all the credit. She asks

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the important questions.

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>So if you ever had any doubt of what a

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>just badass business woman Taylor Swift is, why she is

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the queen.

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:44.959
<v Speaker 2>No reason to doubt. But now here's even more reason

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>to believe.

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so I was a swiftye I don't know

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>how you move up on that, but now you know

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>what I love.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, now you're swifty even in the business world. The

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 3>business you're like, okay, now even in the crypto world,

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>specifically that is interesting about Well, first of.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>All, I love that. I love that Taylor asked those questions.

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is why she is as incredibly successful

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 3>as she is, because not only is she had talented,

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 3>beyond talented singer, songwriter, but she is someone who cultivates

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a brand, a business, all these things.

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's it makes me wonder, Okay.

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.479
<v Speaker 3>I would think Tom Brady's got to have some pretty

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 3>good people, some pretty good financial guys. How did his

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 3>people or how did Shack's people, or how did these

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 3>other people's people not ask the questions that Taylor Swift

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 3>and her team or askers.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 1>And Shack's done better in business than any athlete probably

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the history of sport.

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So why were we not asking these questions?

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>They took the money. They took the money.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Look, well, sometimes it's easy to get I mean, this

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 3>is how people fall victim to schemes, right because you

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 3>think you don't suspect this person's lying to me, You

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 3>don't suspect, oh, this whole company that's incredibly successful.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Look who Bernie Madoff ripped off. Look at the inrun deal.

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Look at I mean Kevin Bacon, I mean, and that

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>was just the tip of the iceberg of the celebrities

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>that got taken. But you know, I have talked to

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>people in the financial world, and it is scary how

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>easy it is sometimes that these frauds get perpetrated. And

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>who is the tech blood droplet lady, there you go.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a drop of blood.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Can change the world.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>One drop of blood, one drop.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you change the world.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Some of the some of the smartest venture capitalists got

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>taken to the cleaners. Yeah, so it can happen. Sometimes

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>things are too good to be true, and they are.

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I love that you just wanted to give it. I

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 3>didn't know where you're going with that story. You're like,

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I just want to praise Taylor's Yeah.

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I just I saw this article today and I thought,

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>good on you, Good for you and your people.

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Speaking of culpability and business.

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Had to bring up this absolutely wild story I saw earlier.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 3>This is I'm gonna read the headline because you'll see

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 3>why this caught my eye. Headline is entrepreneur spending two

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>million dollars to reverse aging left fiance after breast cancer

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 3>diagnosis colon lawsuit. So I can tell that who ever

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>wrote that was like, how the heck do I get

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 3>this in a headline? And I all my blessings to

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 3>the writer here because I've been there trying to fit

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 3>it all on a headline. But basically, this tech entrepreneur

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 3>who's apparently worth millions because he is allegedly spending millions

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 3>he wants to reverse the aging process on his own body,

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>and he's forty six, but he wants to have the

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 3>body of an eighteen year old, and he's spending millions

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 3>of dollars a year on a team of doctors to

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 3>do this for him.

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Is this Tom Sandoval? This sounds like Tom Sandoval from

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 1>vander Pump Rules.

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 3>And I actually tell you what is sad about that

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 3>is I'm looking at a picture of this guy and

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't look like he looks the same as Tom

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Sandibal kind of wanted to be like, dude, I don't

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>just get some botox, man.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I could just picture this guy. He's Jim guy, He's

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>bro guy, He's got all that.

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Look, we've just clearly got issues. I don't

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>know the guy, but I have no problem saying you're trying,

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You're spending millions of dollars to I don't know anyway.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>So he's a software guy and he is was apparently

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 3>in a relationship with Tarren Southern, who is an actress,

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 3>and she is now suing him because basically what she's

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 3>claiming in her suit, she's suing for emotional distress and

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 3>loss of finances and financial loss because she said they're

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 3>in a relationship. She's living with him, he's calling her

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>missus Southern. He's promising this life with her. He's promising

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 3>he's going to take care of her. I mean, they're

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 3>living together, and he wanted her to be very focused

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 3>on him, including like help him create content for his

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.439
<v Speaker 3>brands and all that, and help him with speeches things

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 3>like that. And so she is arguing that she was

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of putting her own career on hold because he's

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 3>telling her, I want you to be all about what

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing. And then she gets diagnosed with breast cancer.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 3>She's like, you know, needs obviously financial support, and that

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 3>he basically told her to leave.

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Kicks her out. Yeah, changes the locks kicks her out.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if he changed the locks,

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:19.479
<v Speaker 2>but that would be the sentiment here. Yes, So I

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>was interested in.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Your take on this because and I guess I'd be

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 3>interested in anybody's take. The question here is you know

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 3>they're not married? What is someone owed? And I think

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 3>she is a very legitimate claim here. I support this.

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm walking into a trap.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Am I sitting?

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>You?

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Are a man? I am a woman?

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Is this quicksand? I'm standing on? Remember when we thought

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>quicksand was going to be a thing? Why were we

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so scared of quicksand?

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for wow? I feel like nostalgia just run.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>My childhood was all about quicksand, right.

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And I've never even seen it in the wild.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Every show, everybody was worried about quicksand.

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>With all the iPhones we have now, how are we

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>not seeing more footage of quicksand on Instagram?

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Of cars disappearing into it?

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Not once?

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>It is for frequent peril in cartoons.

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, all the climate change, we're not hearing about quicksand.

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where quicksand is? Okay except to

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>sit here?

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>We digress. Yes, I didn't try to change the subject there,

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>but I did a good job of doing so. This

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>is a slippery slope, and the only honest escape here

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>is it really is a case by case basis. I

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 1>do know because you and I have a mutual friend

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>where we feel the same way at some point, even

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're not married, you're responsible to each other for

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>each other. And I know other successful men that have

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>changed people's lives and then they're just not happy, so

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 1>it's over. And this person has They've changed their life

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>financially and many other ways. So I do think there

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>is a responsibility there. I don't know how you put

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a spectrum or a rule system in place on this.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>That's the hard part.

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously it's easier if you're married.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Because you can't just say, oh, well, if you've been

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>dating for so and so years, because it's these relationships

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>are different. Some can get very intense and you're living

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>together and you have financially vested in the other person's

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>business and so forth. And then there's some three year

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>relationships where it's been casual. So not all of these

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 1>things are created equal. There's apples and oranges here.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I definitely think if she has evidence of, whether it's

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 3>text messages or emails or other people witnessing conversations where

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 3>he's telling her, look, please don't take that job. I'd

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 3>like you to help me with this, and that happens

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>in relationships.

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Too, right.

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 2>You do a lot of free work for each other.

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean you and I do stuff like that all

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>the time alletime, whether it's hey, what do you think of?

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Like can you help me with this? I mean, we

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>film each other at things like for social media content,

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 3>or we'll help each other with We've helped each other

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 3>probably with speeches we've done before, things like that.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>All the time.

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I run everything by you, I really do. Yeah, you should,

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I should.

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>No, we always run a ton of stuff by each other.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>You're a great sounding board.

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 3>And so if she has evidence of that and then

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>this guy essentially kicks her to the curb, I mean

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I get it. You know, if you've been putting your

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 3>career on hold for somebody, I do think that you

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>have a claim of financial.

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Loss, especially if he's about to hit it big and

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>hit that payday. It's just that's why I think a

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>case by case basis this particular case, she has a

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.200
<v Speaker 1>strong one. I think she does have a case.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well let me pose another and look maybe I'm okay,

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 3>I'll just I'm setting you in for a quick sand

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 3>trap again. Yeah, what if a person didn't necessarily give

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>up a job. But what if somebody was like, I

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know, Say you're fresh out of college and maybe

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 3>you start dating an older guy who's twenty eight twenty nine,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 3>and say he has a kid, and he's like, hey,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I love you, I want to marry you, and you

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 3>don't really go pursue anything career wise, but you're helping

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 3>him take care of his kid.

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 2>You're kind of becoming stepmom or something.

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The nanny is probably what he started dating.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if he's a douchebag and say then he

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 3>breaks up with you, and you're like, oh my god,

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I just spent five years and I never I didn't

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 3>like pursue a career.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a tough situation because you want to tell somebody, gosh,

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 3>please don't fall into that trap. Like I am such

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 3>a big advocate of you have to maintain your own

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>sources the income.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Then it's buyer beware. Yeah, this is all atect yourself.

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>You got to be a strong independent man or woman

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in these and look, we all get fooled and we

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>all have friends where you're screaming at him, please don't

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>do this. You can't save people from themselves, but you

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>also have to be responsible at some point for your

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:58.240
<v Speaker 1>own decisions.

0:44:59.080 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It's you know what.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I honestly the kind of where I first learned that

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 3>was actually with losing my dad, because I watched my mom,

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and my mom is had been an attorney. She had

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 3>been she'd worked for different companies. My mom worked full

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 3>time and put herself through law school, so she'd been

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 3>an attorney she then, and I'm so grateful she did,

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 3>because I she raised us so well, became a stay

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 3>at home mom slash. She still, like we're saying, free

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.919
<v Speaker 3>work very much helped my dad with his law firm.

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 3>But then when my dad died, my mom had not

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 3>been in the workforce for a long time, and it

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 3>was very hard for her to start in that workforce again.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 3>And so that I really watched that, and I was like,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, I, it's hard. It's hard because especially I

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 3>can't imagine how difficult it is when you have kids.

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:48.439
<v Speaker 3>But if you can maintain some source of something for yourself, yeah,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that is a good safety net to have.

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Peter Pans, because this guy in this story

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>clearly the Peter Pans syndrome. Oh my god, he's a

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 1>d bag. But speaking of of Peter Pan's, our final

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>story is Tom Sandoval.

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if you need reminding.

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Vander Bump rules of Peter Pan.

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 3>The scanned of all vander Pump rules, the man who

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 3>cheated on his longtime partner with their friend, her good friend.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't think anybody's ever accused this guy of

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>being a rocket scientist, but this just further exemplifies this.

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>They had code names in the nianach other's phones, so

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in his phone it said, I think Jamie, Tom and Raquel,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Tom and Raquel. Yes, this has just come out. I

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>think I believe TMZ reported the news. Not crazy, by

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, and this isn't the crazy part because a

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of people do that. A lot of people have aliases,

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know, if you're gonna have an affair or whatever,

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll put a different name.

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 2>It seems very obvious, right.

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing about this, and this is why

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it just gives you one more reason to laugh at

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom Sandoval is everybody in the cast apparently knew because

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Tom would call her Jamie. He would use the name

0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>out loud in front of other people. So when the

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>name Jamie came up on the phone. It was pretty

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>easy for everybody to put two and two together. So Tom, look,

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you're not solving the world's problems. I know

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not a mathematician, but come on, pal, the whole

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>point of the code name is we don't use the

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>code name in public. So he was calling her Jamie.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I just saw the headline that they used code names

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>in their phone. I didn't know what I mean.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, my gosh, bless his heart.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 3>No, not bless his heart. He bless his heart in

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 3>the Southern way, which really means like, yes, exactly.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But the reason that we laughed about this is because

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 1>you and I, well when we started dating.

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Yes, we were laughing about this earlier because it was

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 3>in such an For a different reason, I will say, Look,

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It seems it's got to be a

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 3>lot tougher to cheat these days because there's so much

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 3>technology out there.

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 2>You can get caught in so many ways.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it certainly doesn't help these calling her Jamie

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 3>in front of people. Oh my gosh. And I would

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 3>imagine a lot of people do the code names thing

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 3>if you're you save somebody else in your phone. But

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 3>even that's got to be obvious if i'm someone's.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>And I assume everybody knows what we're talking about. So

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 1>when someone calls or texts.

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>You, you've changed their name in your.

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Line, so instead of Steve, the name Brian comes up,

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 1>or maybe one of your girlfriend's names pops up, so

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody is suspicious of what's in your phone.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, see what you just said, That's actually a smarter

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 3>thing to do, because I'm like, what I was about

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to say was what stupid is if you put in

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 3>the name Jamie Tom, isn't everyone around you like, well.

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Who's Jamie?

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Why is she texting you? No? Nice?

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 3>What would have been smart if you're really trying to

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.760
<v Speaker 3>hide this is like you take your best friend Tom

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Schwartz's name and say, maybe you put Raquel's name in

0:48:56.680 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 3>your phone as like Tom s or something, so it's

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 3>not so obvious, like duh.

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Well, I mean I'm sounding very well versed.

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 3>But part of the reason that we were laughing about

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 3>this is because we when we first were dating, and

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 3>we weren't telling anybody yet. I was so like, I

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 3>just didn't I didn't want anybody to know. We've talked

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 3>about this before. You're being very care private until we

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 3>knew it was really serious. And so I had you

0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 3>saved in my phone. I think, is Katie with a C?

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't really know anybody else named Katie and

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 3>or with a C name, And I think I knew,

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.720
<v Speaker 3>like if I'd see the letter C, then I would

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 3>still put tune two together? Was you?

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 2>But you were Katie? You were you were a Katie

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>in my phone.

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I forget, and I would have been racking my brain.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I had you in my phone

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>because I was shooting a lot at the time. I

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 1>was still doing the Bachelor bacherette, and so I would

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>always as I was about to shoot, I would have

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>my phone. And the last thing I would do is

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I would hand my phone to make up artist, wardrobe,

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 1>whoever was standing there, part of the team, and I

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>would say, hey, can you take my phone? And so

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>oftentimes these are people that have been with me for

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty years. They would say, oh, you know the kids

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:11.720
<v Speaker 1>called or so and so called while you were shooting,

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I had to give you some sort of alias.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it was, but you had an alias, and.

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Wow, couldn't have been very good. You don't even remember.

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It definitely wasn't LZ.

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe it was so good that you've forgotten it,

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 3>like that's how good you are.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:24.959
<v Speaker 2>Code names.

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing it was one of my friends. I just

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 1>put you in as like Chip or Wrinch or something.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes the code names worked. And we did that

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>for about six months, and then that was part of

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the unveiling. When we went to the party, I got

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to change your name. I was like LZ's in the phone.

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 2>So we had a much more beautiful experience exactly.

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it was a lot more like we're

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.319
<v Speaker 3>actually trying to preserve this sand of ball.

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>He's just the gift that keeps on giving. Well, and

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>did you he's sell out of the dumb tree and

0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:58.279
<v Speaker 1>hit every branch on the way down.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, did you say fell out of the

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 2>dump tree? Dumb dumb tree.

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh and there's another dad joke, everybody.

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we can even call that a

0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 2>dad joke, but he fell out of the dumb tree.

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Fell out of the dumb tree. It hit every branch

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>on the way down. And that is a great way

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to end the show. Did you have a good time?

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time.

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad, most importantly to learn about how deep

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 3>your swiftiness runs.

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:28.760
<v Speaker 2>That is wonderful.

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.320
<v Speaker 3>And you know, God, we didn't even get to everything,

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 3>so I guess we're gonna have to do another episode

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 3>pretty soon.

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the beauty of the most Dramatic podcast ever. We

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.399
<v Speaker 1>will do this again. Thank you for joining us. We'll

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