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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I am Chris

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Speaker 1: Harrison alongside Lauren Zema, coming to you from the home

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Speaker 1: office in Austin, Texas. It is good to be back home,

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Speaker 1: even though it's a little rainy and stormy down here

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Speaker 1: in Central Texas. Yeah, we're Central Texas, And uh, did.

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Speaker 2: You just forget where we live?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was trying to think where Austin

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Speaker 1: was if.

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Speaker 2: I'm the directionally challenged one. Not yet.

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Speaker 1: Look, I grew up in North Texas, so you know,

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Speaker 1: I think North Texas, Dallas, Fort Worth, and then yeah, we're.

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Speaker 2: I realized living here.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: This is going to sound dumb. Texas is big.

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Speaker 1: Like if if you've ever had to drive, which I have,

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Speaker 1: I drove to California and or you'll drive out to

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Speaker 1: the Panhandle to go to Lubbock or out there. I

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Speaker 1: did some work out there back when I was a teenager.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a day.

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Speaker 2: Texas is like its own country.

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Speaker 3: Like you've I remember because your brother lives down in

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Speaker 3: South Padre where I've never been, and we talk about

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Speaker 3: visiting him, and you're like well, yeah, we could drive,

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Speaker 3: but you know, from some places, South Padre is like

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Speaker 3: an eight hour drive and I was like an eight

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Speaker 3: hour drive, and you're like, yeah, and you're in Texas

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Speaker 3: the whole time.

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Speaker 1: We used to drive down from Dallas to South Padre.

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Speaker 1: That was like our beach, and it's a twelve hour

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Speaker 1: drive from there.

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Speaker 3: It's a twelve hour drive from there. You can traverse

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Speaker 3: multiple states in that. I used to live in Chicago

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Speaker 3: drive on school breaks to Missou University of Missouri, and.

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Speaker 1: That was like a seven hour drive in the same

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Speaker 1: amount of time. My guess is you could if you

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Speaker 1: started on the Red River, the border of Oklahoma and Texas,

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Speaker 1: and if you went twelve hours north, you could probably

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Speaker 1: go through four states.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we're.

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Speaker 3: Really getting I mean, you know, the traversing of Texas

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Speaker 3: is very personal. But I just what's funny is you've

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Speaker 3: just come back from San Diego, which was only a

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Speaker 3: two hour flight. That's one thing I love about living

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Speaker 3: in Austin. Everything's a two hour flight from here. So

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Speaker 3: you just got home.

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Speaker 1: I did. I was out there doing some great stuff

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Speaker 1: with Calloway Golf. My friend's over there at Callaway who

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Speaker 1: I've been working with and have supported for ten years

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Speaker 1: and vice versa. So we did a little fun, little

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Speaker 1: project you'll see coming up probably in a month or so,

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Speaker 1: but also hit some golf balls.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the cutest part. He's going to do

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Speaker 3: this thing with Calloway and you kind of buried the

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Speaker 3: lead as we say. He tells me as he's about

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Speaker 3: to leave to go to the airport, well, and they're

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Speaker 3: going to fit me for new clubs. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: babe at this point with my little sports awareness. But

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Speaker 3: five years in, even I know that's a big deal

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Speaker 3: and that's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: It's called knowing your audience. There's just certain things I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to bore you with.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for you about that.

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Speaker 1: It was a good day for me.

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Speaker 3: I listen, it's very different to like watch you play

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Speaker 3: five holes of golf than it is for you to

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Speaker 3: just tell me I'm getting fitted for new clubs. And

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Speaker 3: I know you're going to love that, and I'll be

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Speaker 3: very excited for you for that night.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for being happy for me.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I'm glad you're home because I right now

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Speaker 3: I'm on five hours of sleep. I probably sound like it.

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Speaker 3: I cannot sleep when you're not home. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why this is now the case, because for sure, when

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Speaker 3: we first moved to Austin, I was scared if you

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Speaker 3: were gone. I just was like, we're in this new house,

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Speaker 3: in a new neighborhood. I know, I don't have a

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Speaker 3: reason to be nois Yeah. Well, and honestly, when you're

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Speaker 3: a woman, typically you're kind of raised to be afraid. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: I mean you're I grew up in Chicago. Chicago has

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Speaker 3: very dangerous parts. You're raised to.

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Speaker 2: Be afraid of all sorts of different things.

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Speaker 3: And when I'm alone in this new house, I also

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Speaker 3: read a study that biologically, like you know how sometimes

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Speaker 3: you'll say it's so hard to sleep in a new

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Speaker 3: place the first night, right, that's actually a thing for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Your defense mechanism kicking out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you as a human, it's your your biology saying wait,

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Speaker 3: what are potential new threats here? It's like you almost

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Speaker 3: go into survival mode. You don't know the terrors of

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Speaker 3: this place, but I now know the terrors of our home.

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Speaker 3: I'm familiar. We've lived here for I've been here like

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Speaker 3: seven eight months full time now, and for some reason

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Speaker 3: I still I mean, I actually it's weird. It bothers

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Speaker 3: me a little bit to say this out loud, because

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Speaker 3: I consider myself a very independent person. But I have

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Speaker 3: become I shouldn't feel bad saying this. In many ways,

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Speaker 3: it's a good thing. I have become dependent on you.

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Speaker 3: I think I just don't sleep well when you're not

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Speaker 3: with me. And I was up till four in the morning,

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Speaker 3: not scared, just like laying in bed trying to sleep

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Speaker 1: I always feel bad when I wake up on the

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Speaker 1: road and I'll go to Instagram and I will immediately

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Speaker 1: see content from you, and I'm thinking, oh no, I'm

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Speaker 1: like everyone.

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Speaker 3: It's two in the morning, and I'm looking at wedding potential,

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Speaker 3: wedding color palettes because I guess.

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Speaker 1: I did like your take on wedding font And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, You're right, very observant, even at three or

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Speaker 1: four in the morning, whenever you were looking at that.

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Speaker 1: Why everybody's using the same face.

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Speaker 2: There's this one wedding font. I looked it up.

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Speaker 3: I think it's called I might be getting this wrong

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Speaker 3: ballista or something, okay, And it was making me go

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Speaker 3: insert pun here ballistic.

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Speaker 2: I would like, why is this wedding font the wedding fund.

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Speaker 3: It's on the welcome signs, it's on the menus, and

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Speaker 3: for some reason it's become the font. No shade to

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Speaker 3: the fund. But we will not be using that fond.

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Speaker 3: I think it's overused.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and by the way, luckily I avoided the

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Speaker 1: big ground stop because I flew Southwest to go direct

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Speaker 2: This was wild.

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Speaker 3: They grounded. The FA grounded all Southwest airplanes as if

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Speaker 3: they needed another.

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Speaker 1: By the way, had to be a computer hacks. They

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Speaker 1: never really came out and said, but it felt like

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Speaker 1: someone hacked the system. They got it fits right, Your spidey.

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Speaker 2: Sense is going up.

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Speaker 3: You're thinking, right, why would the FA ground around Hire

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Speaker 3: not in.

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Speaker 2: A city nationwide? All Southwest?

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Speaker 1: By the way, let me just give a shout out,

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Speaker 1: because no one gives a shout out when things go

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Speaker 1: well on time. Everybody was lovely laughed with the flight

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Speaker 1: attendants had a great time.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah, oh good, Because I will say you

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Speaker 3: you don't always love a.

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Speaker 1: Southwest I don't. It's not my thing. This was just

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Speaker 1: the most convenient flight and it worked perfectly. So not

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Speaker 1: the biggest fan. It feels like I'm getting on a

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Speaker 1: not my favorite thing. But in this these are both pastges.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't like not having a seat. He likes to

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Speaker 1: His sat like order.

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Speaker 3: You know, really what it's about. I know it's it's

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Speaker 3: that's the only thing. We've actually flown Spirit together before

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Speaker 3: because we could only we had to go to this

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Speaker 3: wedding in Kansas City and the only NonStop flight with Spirit.

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Speaker 2: We'd really never flown it, but we flew it.

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Speaker 3: And you said you liked Spirit better than the Southwest

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Speaker 3: because he's an assigned seat.

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Speaker 1: You've assigned me a number anyway. I'm right, you're a twelve, right,

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Speaker 1: so you've already given me a number. Is it such

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Speaker 3: I don't know why that's a thing. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it makes it more efficient. I would be interested to

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Speaker 3: know if they're boarding times or longer they must be

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Speaker 3: without people having seats.

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Speaker 1: I get where it came from back in the day,

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Speaker 1: of love Field, and it was a cheaper, more affordable

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Speaker 1: it really was like the Greyhound of the sky.

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Speaker 2: But what makes it cheaper to not have I think.

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Speaker 1: There was just no premium, no nothing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody I'm asking why is it? Why?

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Speaker 3: What makes it more cost efficient to not have assigned seats?

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Speaker 3: Nothing from either side, like why does it make your

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Speaker 2: And why does it save them money out of it?

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Speaker 1: But then we should be careful what we asked for.

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Speaker 1: Then they're going to start selling seats and then it's

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm an idiot. It's because there isn't a first

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I should have thought about that. But I do

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Speaker 3: I think it creates more tension from the start, because

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Speaker 3: clamoring to find a seat there. People are saving seats

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Speaker 2: I don't mind.

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Speaker 3: I just flew Southwest a few weeks ago, but it's

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Speaker 3: I do find myself. I'm kind of more tense from the.

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Speaker 1: Beginning and the right just getting in line today and

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Speaker 1: you know people are walking up. What number you? What

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Speaker 1: number are you? And it's just there's got to be

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Speaker 1: better way. We figured it out. There are seats.

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Speaker 3: Well, this brings us to our first dramatic headline of

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Speaker 3: the week. Actually, I mean we sound like duebs, but

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Speaker 3: we could talk about airline etiquette and our thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Felt the majority of the last twenty years on airplanes,

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Speaker 1: so I'm well versed.

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Speaker 3: On If you guys ever see I've told him before

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Speaker 3: he should take to Instagram and do a how I travel.

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Speaker 3: This man is the most efficient traveler.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 3: For the shows for twenty years, he's been to how

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Speaker 3: many countries you've lost track of, how many countries you've

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Speaker 3: been to, how many layovers, international flights, national flights, overnight flights.

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Speaker 2: He is such a good, efficient traveler. It's shocked.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I could be an airport employee, like

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Speaker 1: airports could hire me a consultant. If you will an

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Speaker 1: airport consultant, I will come in and lay It's like

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Speaker 1: when someone lays out your kitchen for you. You want

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Speaker 1: that perfect triangle, and this is there. I could do

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Speaker 1: that at airports. I could make him so efficient.

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Speaker 3: And you've probably seen, Actually I've never asked you this.

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Speaker 3: You've probably seen a lot on planes. What is one

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Speaker 3: of the weirder or most trouble causing incidents you've ever

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Speaker 3: But it's interesting because some people seem to think that

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Speaker 2: We didn't bring these MESSI snacks on well, but where

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Speaker 3: I thought of restaurants too, like when they leave and

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Speaker 3: I feel the same like I've opened snacks and spilled

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Speaker 1: But if kids leave little crumbs or whatever, that's not

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Speaker 3: No, it's not crazy. And look, we all know supposedly

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I definitely would have made the

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering what happened?

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Speaker 3: Were people stepping over this crying, pregnant woman as they

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Speaker 1: And I wonder too, if she says no and leaves,

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Speaker 3: I also think, to be honest, I don't think this

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Speaker 2: Then you got backlash for it.

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Speaker 3: It's creating a whole firestorm unless you're trying to make

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Speaker 1: Put this in his terms, that was a swing and

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Speaker 2: Oh god, did he actually tweet that? Are you making

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Speaker 2: a sports joke?

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Speaker 1: That's a sports joke. He's a baseball guy. That was

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, we don't need to start that segment.

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Speaker 3: It is an echo chamber. You know that baby needs

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Speaker 3: I guess it got to the point they asked him

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Speaker 2: Oh God, that breaks my soul when people do that.

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Speaker 1: Special place in jail for people like that, just take

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Speaker 3: How do you not see that everyone is looking at

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Speaker 2: Just get off the plane. How can you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Deckris Hair, just say that.

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Speaker 1: It's just so. I mean, that stuff drives me crazy,

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm instigating this? Do you think I'm

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Speaker 2: You've actually made me softer to this. I used to be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would never in my life say something

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Speaker 3: I look, it's I mean, that's the answer, right, You can't.

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Speaker 3: you can be quiet, like.

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Speaker 2: If two people.

443
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Speaker 3: And by the way, there have been times when I,

444
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 3: again I haven't said anything. But like if two people,

445
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 3: if it's like an early morning flight and two people

446
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 3: have decided they're gonna chat full volume and like have

447
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: a conversation because they're awake, read the room. Ever, everybody

448
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 3: else read the plane. Everyone else is asleep on this plane,

449
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 3: don't you hear You're the only ones talking.

450
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: We had a sweeter moment a version of all this today.

451
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 1: So there was this lovely family in front of me,

452
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,600
Speaker 1: and they had a baby, and to keep the baby happy,

453
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: they would kind of lift it up, and so the

454
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Speaker 1: baby could see obviously to my row and was facing us,

455
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,840
Speaker 1: and I was sitting with three guys that the plane

456
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: was full. And so there was this kind of younger

457
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Speaker 1: guy sitting next to me and an older gentleman sitting

458
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Speaker 1: you know, in the aisle, and I'm on the window,

459
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 1: and the baby kind of looks at me, and I,

460
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, kind of make goo googoo face and trying

461
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 1: to make the baby smile. And then I noticed the

462
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 1: baby kind of looks at the guy next to me.

463
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 1: He does the same thing. We didn't know each other

464
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: were doing this. I just caught it out of the

465
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Speaker 1: corner of my eye. And then the old guy on

466
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Speaker 1: the aisle did the same thing. It was the three

467
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 1: of us were all like making baby, We were all

468
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 1: like making funny faces at this kid. I was like,

469
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: man if I would have loved to have caught that

470
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Speaker 1: on video, because we all just looked like a bunch

471
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: of idiots like trying to like make this baby laugh.

472
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 1: But it was kind of cute.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course it's cute, because that's the great thing

474
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Speaker 3: about babies too. They can, I mean, they can elicit

475
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 3: all the instant emotions, instant frustration, instant joy. But airplanes,

476
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: I mean, and airlines, airports, it always fascinates me because

477
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 3: you can get people at their worst, you can also

478
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 3: get people at their best. And I love a moment

479
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 3: like that where the three of you were like already

480
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 3: and willing to kind of help these parents and music.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer of we are a unit. If

482
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Speaker 1: you're on this plane, we are We're a team. We

483
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Speaker 1: are a team. Let's get through this together, survival. I

484
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: will help you, you help me. You need headphones, what

485
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: you need to wipe, whatever it is. Let's take care

486
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,639
Speaker 1: of each other. And I think if we all have

487
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: that team attitude, help people put their bags up, help

488
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: people By the way, if someone's sitting in row five

489
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: and their bag is in row ten, ghet them their bag.

490
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Speaker 1: Pass it up, Yeah, pass it up, Pass it forward.

491
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: That be a part of a team.

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Speaker 3: You're right, because I always think we're all in the

493
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: same boat here. It's like when somebody starts freaking out

494
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 3: because the plane's delayed. I'm like, you know, we're all here.

495
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: We're all here together, man, we all got to figure

496
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Speaker 3: it out.

497
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Speaker 1: Speaking of all being together, you and I obviously doing

498
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Speaker 1: this show together. It is sometimes frowned upon. Some people say,

499
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: don't ever work with your spouse. Don't ever work with

500
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: your significant other. You're crazy to do so it's never

501
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: going to work. Well. Two very interesting topics this week

502
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: that have to do with spouses hosting shows. First of all,

503
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Love is Blind Nick Lache Vanessla Shea And the now

504
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Kelly and Mark show was Kelly and Ryan. They did

505
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh it's Kelly Mark, Wow, oh yeah.

506
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: Marcus live with Kelly. All right, market, it's.

507
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: Live with Kelly and Mark. They have the coffee mugs

508
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: to prove it. Now.

509
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 3: Oh, that's why it sounds different to me because he's

510
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: a one syllable name. It's like Kelly and Regis, Kelly

511
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: and Ryan Kelly and Michael Kelly and Mark and.

512
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: Then there's reg Regis who is Regis and he and

513
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Speaker 1: he co hosted with his wife from time to time.

514
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: But the reason I bring this up is both shows

515
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: critically had a bumpy road this week.

516
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Speaker 3: I have mixed I have a lot of mixed thoughts

517
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: on all of it. Well, you and I were talking

518
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: about this cause we're kind of like wet We.

519
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Speaker 1: Start with Love is Blind. Obviously much was made of

520
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Netflix not being able to go live with the Love

521
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: is Blind reunion, leaving you know, Vanessa and Nick kind

522
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: of having to figure this thing out, and it was

523
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Speaker 1: probably not probably it had to have been a crazy

524
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Speaker 1: night to be there on set.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I will admit I was a little

526
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: shocked Netflix couldn't do it.

527
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to forget.

528
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: There were a lot of funny tweets out there and

529
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, look, we've been doing live TV

530
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: for how long? And how did you not get it live?

531
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Speaker 3: But I also don't think in the end it really

532
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: mattered for them. I think that you know, they still

533
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 3: said they had something. I think they they rarely released

534
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: the numbers, but I probably in this case they wanted to,

535
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: and they said, like six and a half million.

536
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Speaker 1: People want I said the day after, I say, it's not.

537
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 1: This is not going to hurt Netflix. It's not going

538
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: to hurt Love is Blind at all. No.

539
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: In fact, I mean I don't know you could argue

540
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: no press is bad press, like exactly. It got people

541
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: talking about the Love is Blind reunion that they were

542
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: supposed to get it live and they couldn't. I agree,

543
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: But so it seems like what happened is that they

544
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: just taped it and didn't edit it anyway, like almost

545
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: probably at that point, they're tired, they've been filming all

546
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: they've been trying to get this tech bug fixed all night,

547
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: and they ended up just filming it and getting it

548
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: up as quickly as they as possible the next morning.

549
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: So they almost did kind of a live to tape

550
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: without any editing or cutting much out. It seems I

551
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: don't know that for sure, but so Vanessa Leche particularly,

552
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: but both Nick and Vanessa have been trending on Twitter

553
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: the subject of headlines about fans coming for their hosting

554
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: skills and critiquing their hosting.

555
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: And I have mixed feelings about this because look.

556
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Speaker 3: On the one hand, I can't imagine how tired and

557
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: frustrated they were at that point when they've finally.

558
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Started this thing.

559
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: And also, I, you know, you and I both know

560
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: what it's like to have somebody come like people coming

561
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: for you, and how so I feel bad for them

562
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: in that because it's not it's never great when it

563
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 3: feels like the whole world is coming for you and

564
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: critiquing you.

565
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I've seen some clips and

566
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 2: I do.

567
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: I look, I learned in journalism school you are not

568
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: the story. You ask other people the questions, and you

569
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: are not part of the story. And it seems like

570
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: an issue people have as they feel like Vanessa was

571
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: injecting a lot of her own opinion into it.

572
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

573
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 3: On the one hand, I I see the criticism, but

574
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: I also feel bad for them because they were like

575
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: caught in a mess of a situation.

576
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: I always, you know, kind of insert myself into the Okay,

577
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: what would I feel? And there's an interesting dynamic and

578
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: this is this is interesting for both Kelly and Mark

579
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: and suelos now and also for Nick and Vanessa. When

580
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: you are hosting as a couple you are. It's not

581
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: just a co host. This is your wife, this is

582
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: your significant other. So you're also judging them. You're judging

583
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: their body language, You're judging their dynamic. Are they touching

584
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: each other? Are they not? Like what kind of look

585
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: does Nick have on his face when Vanessa's talking and

586
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: vice versa. It's I got distracted because I'm thinking, what's

587
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: his thought bubble right now? What's he I'm thinking about them,

588
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: less about what's going on in Love is blind and

589
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: this carried over in Kelly and Mark as well, and

590
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: that's something that they're going to have to figure out

591
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: because while it's kind of fun and cute to have

592
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: your husband as the co host, and they've look they've

593
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: they've co hosted together before, but this is different. This

594
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: is a job now that the show is now called

595
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: Kelly and Mark, So you got to figure out how

596
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: you're on equal footing. Because before, when Mark would fill

597
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: in as guest host, it was fun. It's like, oh

598
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: my husband Mark is here today, but it's Kelly's show.

599
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Kelly was the host. Mark was filling in, and I've

600
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: I filled in it Regis and Kelly and Kelly and

601
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: Ryan and I've hosted with Kelly several times, and when

602
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I went in with her, it was all deference towards her.

603
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: This is her baby. I did my part as a

604
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: co host, but at the end of the day, I

605
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: realized it was her show and I'm going to do

606
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: whatever I can to support her in the right.

607
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: As a guest host, you're not an equal. You're there

608
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: to you're the guest star. You're there to support the vibe,

609
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: but you don't know the vibe. Intimately, it's not your show.

610
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: And it's important that eventually they find that footing. And

611
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: again I give them a lot of grace day one,

612
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Week one, they're not going to find that and even

613
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: though they've worked together before, it's going to take weeks.

614
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: It might take months for them to find that equal

615
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: footing where Mark feels like this is my show too,

616
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: it's not just Kelly's show that she brought me into,

617
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: because it can't be that all the time. They got

618
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: to get to that point where they are co hosts.

619
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: It's also very different to suddenly be doing something together

620
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: every day, like you know, you might, I don't. They're

621
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: going to have to find that content balance. How much

622
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: do they talk about their personal life from home versus

623
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 3: not like, will it become too much because now it's

624
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: both of them relatable. Yeah, well it used to be

625
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: Ryan would bring in his life, Kelly bring in hers.

626
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: Now you're just bringing in one life. They're sharing the

627
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: same life, you know. So it could bring a cool

628
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: dynamic of of their romance and relationship, but they've got

629
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: to figure it all out.

630
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: I did not agree.

631
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: There were like some headlines from the New York posts

632
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: like fans rip Kelly and Mark, and then I go

633
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: read the article and I hate this.

634
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: It's it's just we dealt with this.

635
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: It's clickbait, and it annoys me, not just because you

636
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: and I dealt with this, but because again and look,

637
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and say I've been

638
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: perfect in every ethical way as a journalist. It's there's

639
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot of personal experience in a journalism. It's it's

640
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: a very personal job, so you can't be perfect. But

641
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: we were, you know, taught to tell both sides of

642
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: the story. We were taught to bring real evidence and

643
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 3: sourcing to reporting. What happens today is two tweets are

644
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: pulled and it's like Kelly and Ryan, Kelly and Mark

645
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: get critiqued about the new show, Right, why are these

646
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: two tweets from these random people who for all you

647
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: know are bots, for all you know, are the same

648
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: two people and it's a nobody regardless, That to me

649
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: is not headline deserving. And I thought that was just

650
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 3: searching for headline.

651
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: You easily could have found five tweets that said the opposite, right,

652
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: And the same thing for Nick and Vanessa, And look,

653
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: they have been hosting this for obviously a while now,

654
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: but you know, Vanessa does more of the heavy lifting

655
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: than Nick does.

656
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: That was interesting too, because you said that.

657
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: And I will say, we did not watch the entire reunion,

658
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: like I'm way behind on Love Is Blind.

659
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Speaker 2: We just watched some clips.

660
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Speaker 3: But you did say from the clips that you were

661
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Speaker 3: kind of feeling like you wanted to hear more from Nick.

662
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: And that's the thing you have to find too, is

663
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Speaker 3: that balance of how much you both talking, you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's a little harder when you're intimate with someone,

665
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: like how are you and I doing it is?

666
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's a hard thing to do. Anyway,

667
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: I thought of my situation and having if I had

668
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: a co host when I hosted the Tell Alls It's

669
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: hard enough for me to try and control the room,

670
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: much less worry about somebody next to me and getting

671
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Speaker 1: them involved as well. That's that's just another layer to it,

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Speaker 1: and it makes it very difficult. And we never went

673
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Speaker 1: live with our tell All specials. That's the other thing.

674
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Speaker 1: We would heavily, heavily edit those shows. They were long days,

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Speaker 1: as you know, those were long days.

676
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Speaker 3: Of there in the press rooms. I would take Adville.

677
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: Before Preventative Minico.

678
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: That quote from the office where Angela, if you watch

679
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: that show, is taking Adville and she goes, I'm just preparing,

680
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: like that's what I would do.

681
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: But look after the final rows. Those were live. But

682
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: you're dealing with specific segments, small groups of people, couples,

683
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: and you're kind of moving through these relationships. Whereas when

684
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: you have these reunion shows, I think they had what

685
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Speaker 1: ten people on the set we have.

686
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Speaker 2: I know that's not easy.

687
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: It's not easy, and it's not easy to make it

688
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: zip and make it move. That's why editing in those

689
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: situations is important, because not every interview, not every answer

690
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: in question is great and so interesting that I think

691
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Netflix at that moment was probably pretty panicked of just

692
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Speaker 1: get this live to tape, get this out. This has

693
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Speaker 1: been a nightmare of a night, so I can only

694
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: imagine how chaotic it was on the set and in

695
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Speaker 1: that control room that night.

696
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Speaker 3: Well, I have to teet your horn every time I

697
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 3: see hosting that.

698
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

699
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: I just think you're really good at it.

700
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, by the way, And.

701
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Speaker 3: I got a lot of messages about how great you

702
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: are at it and people being like, oh, I missed

703
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: him and I would have loved to see him do this,

704
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: and yeah, So.

705
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Anyway, well, and I think so far our dynamic is okay.

706
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: I was going to say, let's talk about it.

707
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: Should we go and look, maybe we should be statistically

708
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: looking at what percentage of these episodes were each talking.

709
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Speaker 1: I think pretty even when I listen back, it sounds

710
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: even you're listening.

711
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, just kidding.

712
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out and give credit

713
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: where credit's due. I am a swiftye first of all,

714
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: first and foremost.

715
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: Everyone, this is why we're engaged.

716
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I am a swifty. My daughter's a swifty, my fiance

717
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: is a swifty. We're Taylor's sift.

718
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Yes, we just actually we got your daughter, Taylor we

719
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: were able to get you guys, I was that person.

720
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: We along with Taylor's mom, the three of us were

721
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 3: on three different laptops for three hours trying to get

722
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift tickets and we were able to get two

723
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: tickets and we gave them to her as a surprise

724
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Speaker 3: birthday guest.

725
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Years ago, my daughter Taylor, we were at at a concert,

726
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: at a Taylor Swift concert, and.

727
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: We're so confusing a Tayloring.

728
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: We had the privilege of going backstage and Taylor Swift's

729
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: mom gave us a tour. And one of the things

730
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: that oppressed me the most is that this is a

731
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: real family run, Taylor Swift run business. This woman handles

732
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: her own business. Nothing has left a chance. She sets

733
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: up the show, choreographs the show, sets up the design,

734
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: sets up her wardrobe. I think is versace by the

735
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: way this go and handles everything from top to bottom

736
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: in her life and to me, so impressive. When Scooter

737
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Braun did the deal when bought her catalog, she went

738
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: and said, no, no, no, no, We recorded every song so

739
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: she could own her own stuff. So not only is

740
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: she just the queen of music and the queen of

741
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: pop and all that stuff. She's just a badass business

742
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: woman and I'm just brilliant. So I want to give

743
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: a shout out because this was an amazing story. And

744
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I talked a little bit about this, and I know

745
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: it's a little it gets into the business world. But

746
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: this FTX debacle where this Sam Bateman freed and this

747
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: FTX deal, this crypto exchange that went bankrupt, and it

748
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: was really corrupt, really a big disaster, and a lot

749
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: of celebrities like Tom Brady, like Steph Curry got check.

750
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I think Shaquille O'Neil was involved in this, got swept

751
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: up in this. They took millions upon millions of dollars

752
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: in exchange for promoting and selling FTX in this company

753
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: and Formula one. Well, there was one celebrity that didn't

754
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: take the money, and she looked deeper, and that was

755
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. She was offered what is said to be

756
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: at least one hundred million dollars buy FTX to do

757
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: a promotional deal and there was going to be NFTs

758
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: where probably they would give away concert tickets and it

759
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: was this huge, huge endorsement deal. Again, a one hundred

760
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: million dollar deal even for Taylor Swift that's not something

761
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: to sneeze at. She turned it down because she gets

762
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for it. But I'm guessing her dad,

763
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: he used to work for Merrill Lynch and has a

764
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: smart financial mind. They look deeper into this and they

765
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: realize that these were unregistered securities.

766
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: Oh so this is just coming out now that she Oh,

767
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: because it's like in court.

768
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Speaker 1: And all that is a court and all these celebrities

769
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: are getting swept up in this and it just came

770
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: out that she was offered one hundred million dollars sponsorship deal,

771
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: but she asked them, can you tell me that these

772
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: are not unregistered securities? Oh?

773
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: Is this an email from Taylor or something that.

774
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: Is this is just a quote where this came from

775
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: this article that she and her team looked further into

776
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: this and didn't take the one hundred mil, whereas all

777
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: of these other celebrities did and have and these other

778
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: celebrities I'm talking Tom Brady and look my tinfoil had

779
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: on total conspiracy theory. I still say something about Giselle

780
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: and Tom had to do with this FTX thing.

781
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Oh, interest you think the breakup in some way was.

782
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: About separating their money, getting their bank statements apart, I

783
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: still say there's something the Mighty senses, because yeah, I

784
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: just it was weird that all of that happened, his retirement,

785
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: his going back, their divorce was all centered around this

786
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: FTX because he's I.

787
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: Mean, I'm sorry, I don't know all about it, because

788
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: he's like at risk. He could have to pay money

789
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: for this, he could have to.

790
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: There are people going after these celebrities saying, look, you

791
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: endorse this.

792
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: Just regular every day people lost a lot of money

793
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: on this.

794
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: You don't get to just you know, I know Kim

795
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: Kardashian had to pay a seven figure settlement when through

796
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: a crypto deal that went wrong that she had endorsed.

797
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: Well, let us give Taylor all the credit. She asks

798
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: the important questions.

799
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: So if you ever had any doubt of what a

800
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: just badass business woman Taylor Swift is, why she is

801
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the queen.

802
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 2: No reason to doubt. But now here's even more reason

803
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: to believe.

804
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I was a swiftye I don't know

805
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: how you move up on that, but now you know

806
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: what I love.

807
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: Well, now you're swifty even in the business world. The

808
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: business you're like, okay, now even in the crypto world,

809
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: specifically that is interesting about Well, first of.

810
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: All, I love that. I love that Taylor asked those questions.

811
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is why she is as incredibly successful

812
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: as she is, because not only is she had talented,

813
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: beyond talented singer, songwriter, but she is someone who cultivates

814
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: a brand, a business, all these things.

815
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: But it's it makes me wonder, Okay.

816
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 3: I would think Tom Brady's got to have some pretty

817
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: good people, some pretty good financial guys. How did his

818
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: people or how did Shack's people, or how did these

819
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: other people's people not ask the questions that Taylor Swift

820
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: and her team or askers.

821
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: And Shack's done better in business than any athlete probably

822
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: in the history of sport.

823
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: So why were we not asking these questions?

824
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: They took the money. They took the money.

825
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Look, well, sometimes it's easy to get I mean, this

826
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: is how people fall victim to schemes, right because you

827
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 3: think you don't suspect this person's lying to me, You

828
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: don't suspect, oh, this whole company that's incredibly successful.

829
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: Look who Bernie Madoff ripped off. Look at the inrun deal.

830
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: Look at I mean Kevin Bacon, I mean, and that

831
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: was just the tip of the iceberg of the celebrities

832
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: that got taken. But you know, I have talked to

833
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: people in the financial world, and it is scary how

834
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: easy it is sometimes that these frauds get perpetrated. And

835
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: who is the tech blood droplet lady, there you go.

836
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: I mean, a drop of blood.

837
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: Can change the world.

838
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: One drop of blood, one drop.

839
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: This is what happens when you change the world.

840
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Some of the some of the smartest venture capitalists got

841
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: taken to the cleaners. Yeah, so it can happen. Sometimes

842
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: things are too good to be true, and they are.

843
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: I love that you just wanted to give it. I

844
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: didn't know where you're going with that story. You're like,

845
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: I just want to praise Taylor's Yeah.

846
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: I just I saw this article today and I thought,

847
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: good on you, Good for you and your people.

848
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: I love it. Speaking of culpability and business.

849
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: Had to bring up this absolutely wild story I saw earlier.

850
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: This is I'm gonna read the headline because you'll see

851
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 3: why this caught my eye. Headline is entrepreneur spending two

852
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: million dollars to reverse aging left fiance after breast cancer

853
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: diagnosis colon lawsuit. So I can tell that who ever

854
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: wrote that was like, how the heck do I get

855
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: this in a headline? And I all my blessings to

856
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: the writer here because I've been there trying to fit

857
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: it all on a headline. But basically, this tech entrepreneur

858
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: who's apparently worth millions because he is allegedly spending millions

859
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: he wants to reverse the aging process on his own body,

860
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: and he's forty six, but he wants to have the

861
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: body of an eighteen year old, and he's spending millions

862
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: of dollars a year on a team of doctors to

863
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: do this for him.

864
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Is this Tom Sandoval? This sounds like Tom Sandoval from

865
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules.

866
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: And I actually tell you what is sad about that

867
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: is I'm looking at a picture of this guy and

868
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: he doesn't look like he looks the same as Tom

869
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: Sandibal kind of wanted to be like, dude, I don't

870
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: just get some botox, man.

871
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: I could just picture this guy. He's Jim guy, He's

872
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: bro guy, He's got all that.

873
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Look, we've just clearly got issues. I don't

874
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: know the guy, but I have no problem saying you're trying,

875
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: You're spending millions of dollars to I don't know anyway.

876
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: So he's a software guy and he is was apparently

877
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: in a relationship with Tarren Southern, who is an actress,

878
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 3: and she is now suing him because basically what she's

879
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 3: claiming in her suit, she's suing for emotional distress and

880
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: loss of finances and financial loss because she said they're

881
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: in a relationship. She's living with him, he's calling her

882
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: missus Southern. He's promising this life with her. He's promising

883
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: he's going to take care of her. I mean, they're

884
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: living together, and he wanted her to be very focused

885
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: on him, including like help him create content for his

886
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 3: brands and all that, and help him with speeches things

887
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: like that. And so she is arguing that she was

888
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: kind of putting her own career on hold because he's

889
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: telling her, I want you to be all about what

890
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm doing. And then she gets diagnosed with breast cancer.

891
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: She's like, you know, needs obviously financial support, and that

892
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: he basically told her to leave.

893
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: Kicks her out. Yeah, changes the locks kicks her out.

894
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he changed the locks,

895
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 2: but that would be the sentiment here. Yes, So I

896
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: was interested in.

897
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: Your take on this because and I guess I'd be

898
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: interested in anybody's take. The question here is you know

899
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: they're not married? What is someone owed? And I think

900
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: she is a very legitimate claim here. I support this.

901
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm walking into a trap.

902
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: Am I sitting?

903
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: You?

904
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: Are a man? I am a woman?

905
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: Is this quicksand? I'm standing on? Remember when we thought

906
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: quicksand was going to be a thing? Why were we

907
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: so scared of quicksand?

908
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for wow? I feel like nostalgia just run.

909
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: My childhood was all about quicksand, right.

910
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: And I've never even seen it in the wild.

911
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: Every show, everybody was worried about quicksand.

912
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: With all the iPhones we have now, how are we

913
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: not seeing more footage of quicksand on Instagram?

914
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Of cars disappearing into it?

915
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Not once?

916
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: It is for frequent peril in cartoons.

917
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Yes, all the climate change, we're not hearing about quicksand.

918
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know where quicksand is? Okay except to

919
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: sit here?

920
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: We digress. Yes, I didn't try to change the subject there,

921
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: but I did a good job of doing so. This

922
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: is a slippery slope, and the only honest escape here

923
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: is it really is a case by case basis. I

924
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: do know because you and I have a mutual friend

925
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: where we feel the same way at some point, even

926
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: if you're not married, you're responsible to each other for

927
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: each other. And I know other successful men that have

928
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: changed people's lives and then they're just not happy, so

929
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: it's over. And this person has They've changed their life

930
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: financially and many other ways. So I do think there

931
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: is a responsibility there. I don't know how you put

932
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: a spectrum or a rule system in place on this.

933
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: That's the hard part.

934
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's easier if you're married.

935
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Because you can't just say, oh, well, if you've been

936
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: dating for so and so years, because it's these relationships

937
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: are different. Some can get very intense and you're living

938
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: together and you have financially vested in the other person's

939
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: business and so forth. And then there's some three year

940
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: relationships where it's been casual. So not all of these

941
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: things are created equal. There's apples and oranges here.

942
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: I definitely think if she has evidence of, whether it's

943
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: text messages or emails or other people witnessing conversations where

944
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: he's telling her, look, please don't take that job. I'd

945
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: like you to help me with this, and that happens

946
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: in relationships.

947
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: Too, right.

948
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: You do a lot of free work for each other.

949
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean you and I do stuff like that all

950
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: the time alletime, whether it's hey, what do you think of?

951
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: Like can you help me with this? I mean, we

952
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: film each other at things like for social media content,

953
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: or we'll help each other with We've helped each other

954
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: probably with speeches we've done before, things like that.

955
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: All the time.

956
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: I run everything by you, I really do. Yeah, you should,

957
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: I should.

958
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: No, we always run a ton of stuff by each other.

959
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: You're a great sounding board.

960
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: And so if she has evidence of that and then

961
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: this guy essentially kicks her to the curb, I mean

962
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: I get it. You know, if you've been putting your

963
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: career on hold for somebody, I do think that you

964
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: have a claim of financial.

965
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Loss, especially if he's about to hit it big and

966
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: hit that payday. It's just that's why I think a

967
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: case by case basis this particular case, she has a

968
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: strong one. I think she does have a case.

969
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: Okay, well let me pose another and look maybe I'm okay,

970
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: I'll just I'm setting you in for a quick sand

971
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: trap again. Yeah, what if a person didn't necessarily give

972
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: up a job. But what if somebody was like, I

973
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: don't know, Say you're fresh out of college and maybe

974
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: you start dating an older guy who's twenty eight twenty nine,

975
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: and say he has a kid, and he's like, hey,

976
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: I love you, I want to marry you, and you

977
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: don't really go pursue anything career wise, but you're helping

978
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 3: him take care of his kid.

979
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: You're kind of becoming stepmom or something.

980
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: The nanny is probably what he started dating.

981
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: I mean, if he's a douchebag and say then he

982
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: breaks up with you, and you're like, oh my god,

983
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 3: I just spent five years and I never I didn't

984
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: like pursue a career.

985
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

986
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: That's a tough situation because you want to tell somebody, gosh,

987
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: please don't fall into that trap. Like I am such

988
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: a big advocate of you have to maintain your own

989
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: sources the income.

990
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: Then it's buyer beware. Yeah, this is all atect yourself.

991
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: You got to be a strong independent man or woman

992
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: in these and look, we all get fooled and we

993
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: all have friends where you're screaming at him, please don't

994
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: do this. You can't save people from themselves, but you

995
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: also have to be responsible at some point for your

996
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: own decisions.

997
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: It's you know what.

998
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: I honestly the kind of where I first learned that

999
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: was actually with losing my dad, because I watched my mom,

1000
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: and my mom is had been an attorney. She had

1001
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: been she'd worked for different companies. My mom worked full

1002
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: time and put herself through law school, so she'd been

1003
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: an attorney she then, and I'm so grateful she did,

1004
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: because I she raised us so well, became a stay

1005
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: at home mom slash. She still, like we're saying, free

1006
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: work very much helped my dad with his law firm.

1007
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: But then when my dad died, my mom had not

1008
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: been in the workforce for a long time, and it

1009
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: was very hard for her to start in that workforce again.

1010
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: And so that I really watched that, and I was like,

1011
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: you know, I, it's hard. It's hard because especially I

1012
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: can't imagine how difficult it is when you have kids.

1013
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 3: But if you can maintain some source of something for yourself, yeah,

1014
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: I think that is a good safety net to have.

1015
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of Peter Pans, because this guy in this story

1016
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: clearly the Peter Pans syndrome. Oh my god, he's a

1017
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: d bag. But speaking of of Peter Pan's, our final

1018
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: story is Tom Sandoval.

1019
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: Oh, if you need reminding.

1020
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Vander Bump rules of Peter Pan.

1021
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: The scanned of all vander Pump rules, the man who

1022
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: cheated on his longtime partner with their friend, her good friend.

1023
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Now, I don't think anybody's ever accused this guy of

1024
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: being a rocket scientist, but this just further exemplifies this.

1025
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: They had code names in the nianach other's phones, so

1026
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: in his phone it said, I think Jamie, Tom and Raquel,

1027
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Tom and Raquel. Yes, this has just come out. I

1028
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: think I believe TMZ reported the news. Not crazy, by

1029
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: the way, and this isn't the crazy part because a

1030
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of people do that. A lot of people have aliases,

1031
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're gonna have an affair or whatever,

1032
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: you'll put a different name.

1033
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: It seems very obvious, right.

1034
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: But the funny thing about this, and this is why

1035
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: it just gives you one more reason to laugh at

1036
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: Tom Sandoval is everybody in the cast apparently knew because

1037
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Tom would call her Jamie. He would use the name

1038
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: out loud in front of other people. So when the

1039
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: name Jamie came up on the phone. It was pretty

1040
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: easy for everybody to put two and two together. So Tom, look,

1041
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: I know you're not solving the world's problems. I know

1042
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: you're not a mathematician, but come on, pal, the whole

1043
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: point of the code name is we don't use the

1044
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: code name in public. So he was calling her Jamie.

1045
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: I just saw the headline that they used code names

1046
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: in their phone. I didn't know what I mean.

1047
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: Gosh, my gosh, bless his heart.

1048
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: No, not bless his heart. He bless his heart in

1049
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: the Southern way, which really means like, yes, exactly.

1050
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: But the reason that we laughed about this is because

1051
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: you and I, well when we started dating.

1052
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: Yes, we were laughing about this earlier because it was

1053
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: in such an For a different reason, I will say, Look,

1054
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. It seems it's got to be a

1055
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: lot tougher to cheat these days because there's so much

1056
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: technology out there.

1057
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: You can get caught in so many ways.

1058
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it certainly doesn't help these calling her Jamie

1059
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: in front of people. Oh my gosh. And I would

1060
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: imagine a lot of people do the code names thing

1061
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: if you're you save somebody else in your phone. But

1062
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: even that's got to be obvious if i'm someone's.

1063
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: And I assume everybody knows what we're talking about. So

1064
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: when someone calls or texts.

1065
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: You, you've changed their name in your.

1066
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: Line, so instead of Steve, the name Brian comes up,

1067
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: or maybe one of your girlfriend's names pops up, so

1068
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: nobody is suspicious of what's in your phone.

1069
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: Okay, see what you just said, That's actually a smarter

1070
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: thing to do, because I'm like, what I was about

1071
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: to say was what stupid is if you put in

1072
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: the name Jamie Tom, isn't everyone around you like, well.

1073
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Who's Jamie?

1074
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: Why is she texting you? No? Nice?

1075
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: What would have been smart if you're really trying to

1076
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 3: hide this is like you take your best friend Tom

1077
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: Schwartz's name and say, maybe you put Raquel's name in

1078
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: your phone as like Tom s or something, so it's

1079
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: not so obvious, like duh.

1080
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, Well, I mean I'm sounding very well versed.

1081
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: But part of the reason that we were laughing about

1082
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: this is because we when we first were dating, and

1083
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: we weren't telling anybody yet. I was so like, I

1084
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: just didn't I didn't want anybody to know. We've talked

1085
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: about this before. You're being very care private until we

1086
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: knew it was really serious. And so I had you

1087
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: saved in my phone. I think, is Katie with a C?

1088
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: Because I don't really know anybody else named Katie and

1089
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: or with a C name, And I think I knew,

1090
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 3: like if I'd see the letter C, then I would

1091
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: still put tune two together? Was you?

1092
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: But you were Katie? You were you were a Katie

1093
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Speaker 2: in my phone.

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Speaker 1: I forget, and I would have been racking my brain.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I had you in my phone

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Speaker 1: because I was shooting a lot at the time. I

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00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: was still doing the Bachelor bacherette, and so I would

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00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: always as I was about to shoot, I would have

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Speaker 1: my phone. And the last thing I would do is

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Speaker 1: I would hand my phone to make up artist, wardrobe,

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00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: whoever was standing there, part of the team, and I

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Speaker 1: would say, hey, can you take my phone? And so

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Speaker 1: oftentimes these are people that have been with me for

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Speaker 1: twenty years. They would say, oh, you know the kids

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Speaker 1: called or so and so called while you were shooting,

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Speaker 1: and so I had to give you some sort of alias.

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Speaker 1: I forget what it was, but you had an alias, and.

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Speaker 2: Wow, couldn't have been very good. You don't even remember.

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Speaker 1: It definitely wasn't LZ.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe it was so good that you've forgotten it,

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Speaker 3: like that's how good you are.

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Speaker 2: Code names.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it was one of my friends. I just

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Speaker 1: put you in as like Chip or Wrinch or something.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes the code names worked. And we did that

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Speaker 1: for about six months, and then that was part of

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Speaker 1: the unveiling. When we went to the party, I got

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Speaker 1: to change your name. I was like LZ's in the phone.

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Speaker 2: So we had a much more beautiful experience exactly.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was a lot more like we're

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Speaker 3: actually trying to preserve this sand of ball.

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Speaker 1: He's just the gift that keeps on giving. Well, and

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Speaker 1: did you he's sell out of the dumb tree and

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Speaker 1: hit every branch on the way down.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, did you say fell out of the

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00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: dump tree? Dumb dumb tree.

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Speaker 3: Oh and there's another dad joke, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we can even call that a

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00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: dad joke, but he fell out of the dumb tree.

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Speaker 1: Fell out of the dumb tree. It hit every branch

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: on the way down. And that is a great way

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Speaker 1: to end the show. Did you have a good time?

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Speaker 2: I had a great time.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad, most importantly to learn about how deep

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Speaker 3: your swiftiness runs.

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Speaker 2: That is wonderful.

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Speaker 3: And you know, God, we didn't even get to everything,

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Speaker 3: so I guess we're gonna have to do another episode

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Speaker 3: pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of the most Dramatic podcast ever. We

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Speaker 1: will do this again. Thank you for joining us. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time because we have a lot

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Speaker 1: more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at the Most Dramatic Pod Ever, and make sure

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00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: to write us a review and leave us five stars.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next time.