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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dirk Durham and guess what it is report card time.

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Speaker 1: Last week I put a post out on Instagram asking

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Speaker 1: for everybody's two cents on how they did in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three. It's a really great way to kind of

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Speaker 1: self assess, look back, analyze, think about it. I had

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Speaker 1: to think about it a lot myself. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably harder on myself than anyone. Punish myself. For the

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Speaker 1: next few months until we hit September again, I ask

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Speaker 1: everybody to call in to our super secret hotline. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's not that secret. Had them call in and

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Speaker 1: leave a message and let me know how did there's

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Speaker 1: how did their season go? Did they kick ass or

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Speaker 1: did they suck ass? And we had a few people

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Speaker 1: call in leave messages, So I'm gonna play those in

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Speaker 1: a little bit and kind of go over their thoughts

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Speaker 1: and maybe put a couple of my two cents in

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Speaker 1: as well. But in the meantime, I'm gonna kind of

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Speaker 1: go over my season and let you know how I did,

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Speaker 1: if I kicked ass or if I sucked ass. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and just hey, I'm gonna raise

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Speaker 1: my head out right now. I'm the first guy to

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Speaker 1: admit I kind of sucked ass last year. Man, it

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Speaker 1: was a tough, tough September for me, and and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was like, well, you know, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not an Elk year, maybe it'll be a deer year.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe Elk season wasn't very robust, but deer

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Speaker 1: season would be would be awesome, and I would make

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Speaker 1: up for it. Deer season a little bit soft too, so,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, I was gonna go ahead and kind of

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Speaker 1: go over some of these thoughts I had on my

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Speaker 1: on my report card from twenty twenty three, and I

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Speaker 1: would probably give myself maybe maybe a C. I've always

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Speaker 1: been kind of a C student. But anyway, did you

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Speaker 1: guys kick ass or did you suck ass? I sucked ass,

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna dive in on kind of some

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Speaker 1: of my screw ups here. My screw up number one,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do my research on the unit to see

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Speaker 1: how many hunters I could expect to see here in Idaho.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole new unit for me. It was a

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Speaker 1: unit that was close to where my son could come

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Speaker 1: and join me for the hunt. Spend a few days

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Speaker 1: would be easy with his work shift, and I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this will work great. I did all my summer scouting,

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Speaker 1: learned the area, put out trail cameras, lots of nice

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Speaker 1: bowls on trail cam. And then fast forward to September

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Speaker 1: and I got to go up for a little bit early.

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Speaker 1: I got to go up a few days before Austin

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Speaker 1: could come up and hunt, before Dusty could come up

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Speaker 1: and film. And I had the first three days a

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Speaker 1: season before the big Labor Day season or the Labor

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Speaker 1: Day weekend rush. Got there and bulls were pretty quiet.

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Speaker 1: I did hear some bugles, and I was able to

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Speaker 1: get right on them and get in there and spend

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Speaker 1: some time with them. But they were not aggressive at all.

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Speaker 1: And if I if I pushed up on him and

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Speaker 1: anyway that that kind of set the stage. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know where these bulls are at. This is going

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Speaker 1: In a few days when Austin can come up, him

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Speaker 1: dive in and call some bulls in it's going to

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Speaker 1: be awesome. Fast forward a few days. I left the

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Speaker 1: just going to be a rat race. You know, lots

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Speaker 1: and there's cybersides and four wheelers and dirt bikes around.

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Speaker 1: You have the recreationalist, then you have the hunters. And

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Speaker 1: one thing I found when the last day I was

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Speaker 1: a lot of the roads hadn't been closed yet, so

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Speaker 1: I was kind of banking on some of these roads

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Speaker 1: So anyway, when we got back, when I went got

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Speaker 1: didn't look like we'd lost a lot of people. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the recreationalists had gone home, but a lot

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Speaker 1: more on the daily. Every day, more hunters showed up.

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Speaker 1: So all the places that I had had been that

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Speaker 1: those as well. And we're in there. So we start

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Speaker 1: turning over rocks, you know, we got to leave no

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Speaker 1: on and hunt some undisturbed milk relatively speaking, So every

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Speaker 1: you know, we would where we were out at first light,

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Speaker 1: there was no action. So we go to the next place.

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Speaker 1: In the next place, you know, go from A plans, A, B, C,

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Speaker 1: we'd find a bowl mid morning or almost at noon,

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Speaker 1: and the bowl wasn't going to be very reactive to calling.

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Speaker 1: So we would be like, all right, cool, Well tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 1: So the next we'd be there ready to go. Well,

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Speaker 1: somebody else would be there too, so you can't blame

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Speaker 1: anybody else there. You know, it's public land. Everybody out

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Speaker 1: But it does get a little frustrating. So then we

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Speaker 1: decided to broaden our horizons. We branched out, and there's

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Speaker 1: a huge, really big unit. There's several units within this

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Speaker 1: hunt a couple days early because I had a Montana

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Speaker 1: So we bailed. And this was early season. I don't

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Speaker 1: Austin was like, that's fine, I got to do some

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Speaker 1: chores anyway. So Dusty and I headed out. We stopped

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Speaker 1: Elk were just not very vocal. They were they would

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Speaker 1: That way I'm allowed to canvas the area really easily.

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Speaker 1: there was just nothing. We weren't getting into any elk sign,

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Speaker 1: So and then we had a huge storm, roll in

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Speaker 1: So the storm passed, but you know, we kind of

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Speaker 1: the here's the screw up. We should have been closer

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Speaker 1: really big screw up. And I knew better, and I

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Speaker 1: typically do it different, but you know how it is.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes the you know comforts or you know things.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like I can talk myself into things.

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Speaker 1: If you can justify something, does it logically makes sense

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Speaker 1: I'd been hoting elk since the thirtieth of August. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I missed it. Maybe I just

429
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: shanked it. Maybe you know, anything's possible, is kind of

430
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: shooting from awkward position. But I get back down there

431
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: and I arrange it, and the tree is forty yards,

432
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: it's not fifty yards. So and at that distance, yeah,

433
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: there's definitely enough enough difference in my forty yard pin

434
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: and my fifty yard pin where I would shoot over

435
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: his back. Som So, I didn't beat myself up too

436
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: much for not making an accurate shot, but I did

437
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: beat myself up for not making better mental notes and

438
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 1: keeping track, like you know, carving stone, like these are

439
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: the yardages I need to you know, I need to

440
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: know I had I had probably transposed one of the trees,

441
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, one of the other was fifty and that

442
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: one was forty, you know, which, maybe I'm just getting old,

443
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: my old age. I'm sure some folks out there can relate.

444
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: So anyhow that was that wasn't screw up number three,

445
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: well number three, and then there was one that kind

446
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: of continues on that same lines. In Kansas, Dusty and

447
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: I were hunting, and we were hunting out of a

448
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: redneck blind. I'm not sure if you guys know what

449
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: a red neck blind is. It's it's an elevated blind.

450
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: It's about this one is about fifteen feet in the air,

451
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: and it's kind of a big fiberglass enclosed blind and

452
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: it's got windows and stuff. It's kind of like the

453
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: taj Mahal of blinds, if you will. Our buddy Randy

454
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Milligan out there put this up and had it ready

455
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: to go, and it was on the last evening of

456
00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: the of the hunt, literally the last fifteen minutes in

457
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: the last evening in the hunt. And this we see

458
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: a buck moving down this fence ro next to the

459
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: timber and he's on a mission, you know, But he

460
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: don't have his head down. He has his head up

461
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: and he's kind of walking real proud, real real dominant looking.

462
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I don't know, we got to

463
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: get that deer to us. And he's a couple hundred

464
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: yards away I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna

465
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: do it, because I'd been calling a deer earlier in

466
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: the hunt and I just wasn't having much luck. And

467
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I you know, had at a distance, you know, a

468
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: couple hundred yards, I'd seen some bucks. I had snort weezed,

469
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: and then I'd grunt and stuff, and that didn't really

470
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: seem to help. I'm honestly, I'm pretty new at this

471
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: snort weeze world. But I thought, okay, well I'm not

472
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna snort weez because I hadn't had any luck with

473
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: it so far. So I'm like, I'm gonna grunt at

474
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: this thing until he looks over here. So we had

475
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: I have this new sweet ass prototype Philips deer grunt call,

476
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm like, man, I gotta get I got

477
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: to get this thing's attention. So I started ripping some

478
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: grunts on this thing. And these weren't your tending, your

479
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: normal tending, just you know, shortened runts. These were big, loud,

480
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: aggressive grunts. They were brah, brah, just ripping, and I

481
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: did of like six or seven of them. I'm like it,

482
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it, this is this is

483
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: the end. Of the game, right, So if it doesn't work,

484
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: I guess it didn't work, and we go home and

485
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: he handed it. But for some reason, if it works,

486
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: then we're back in the game. And after like the

487
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: sixth grunt, he stops in his tracks and he looks

488
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: over at us, and I'm like, oh, man, I got

489
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: his attention, yes and no. Sooner than that I thought that,

490
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: he turned his head and started walking, continuing on his path.

491
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no, it didn't work, And I thought,

492
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: all right, so this call also has a bleat call,

493
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: so a doe bleat feature. So you blow in one

494
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: side it's it grunts, you suck in on the other

495
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: side it bleats. I'm like, okay, maybe I can give

496
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: him some dough bleaeds and that'll be like, oh, I

497
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: got to go over there. So I ripped I don't know,

498
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: three or four big dough bleats, and these things were

499
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: pretty loud, and I'm just it almost sounds like when

500
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: you spine a deer and they make that terrible noise.

501
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: It was almost that intensity. And he didn't look our

502
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: way at all. But what he did was it almost

503
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: reminded me of like a big ship in the ocean.

504
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Where you don't really know what's happening, but you just

505
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: started you've seen it slowly start changing course. He just

506
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of slowly changed course. He made kind of a

507
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: big circle, and now he's heading right to us. And

508
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh man, it's like a countdown on

509
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: the on the stopwatch of like is he gonna get

510
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: here within shooting light or not? Oh man? And then

511
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: he was aimed. He was aimed right at us, like

512
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna come. Well at this point, I remember that

513
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: every other night we've sat in this blind, I've had

514
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: a Dave Smith decoy, running buck decoy out there by us,

515
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: just for a situation just like this. Well, that night

516
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Jason Phelps, good old Jason. He had the pickup and

517
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: I had that decoy in the pickup. Well, he left

518
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: camp before I did, so he took the He took

519
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the pickup and the decoy unknowing unbeknownst to him, he

520
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: didn't even know he had the decoy in the back.

521
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: He wasn't paying attention. Well, we used an ATV to

522
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: get to this spot, so anyway we were without the decoy. Well,

523
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: as this buck is coming, I was just like, damn it.

524
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: I wish I had that freaking decoy right now, because

525
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, surely that would have been you know, it

526
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: was strategically strategically placed. He would have come in well

527
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: within yardage. He would have been, you know, checking out

528
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the buck, getting ready to fight. You know he'd been

529
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been paying attention to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

530
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean you should have would have cut her right well.

531
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: He starts coming to us through this cornfield, partially cut cornfield,

532
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and he's getting closer and getting closer and getting closer.

533
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: But then at about fifty yards he hits this this

534
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: cut in the corn and then he kind of straightens

535
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: his line out. He quits coming towards us, and I

536
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: can see now he's not coming to us. Now, he's

537
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: he's going to bypass us and keep on going on

538
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: that straight line. So I'd already arranged everything, arranged it again.

539
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's fifty yards, I can be this shot.

540
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: But there again, back to that that screw up practicing

541
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: uncomfortable tricky shots. This was a tricky shot. I don't

542
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: know if you guys have ever shot out of a

543
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: redneck blind. They're not made for big guys. They're made

544
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: for people who are about five foot four. So they

545
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: have these these vertical windows on the front of the blind,

546
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: one in each corner. So I had that one open.

547
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: It's about a i don't know, probably a foot wide

548
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: so and probably four feet tall. So I had to

549
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: get down on my knees. I'm like, man, Dusty, I'm sorry,

550
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: but I hope you can get this. So he had

551
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: to film through one of the windows, through the glass

552
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: and one of the windows, and so we kind of

553
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: changed positions. I got on my knees and I got

554
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: scooched up and to where I could draw my bow

555
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: and get a shot at this bucket. I drew my bow,

556
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: put it on him, and I did the old classic

557
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you see on all the all the

558
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: deer hunting videos. And it took about three of those

559
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: to get him to stop. And finally he stops. I'm like,

560
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And I had my have my fifty yard

561
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: pin on him and I let it eat and I

562
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: I watched my my arrow arc and I'm shooting, like

563
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'm shooting lighted knocks and this this time

564
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: we can see it. And it was like the longest

565
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: It was like the longest airborne shot of my life.

566
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: It was like slow motion when I released that shot

567
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: and it arked out there and it just like shot

568
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: out there, just slow, slow, slow lope, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

569
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna get him. It's gonna get him. And then

570
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: it didn't, and he kind of jumped and ran a

571
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: little bit and then kind of circled back around and

572
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: went back over and got all on that same fence

573
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: row that where we first spotted him and then walked

574
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: out of our lives forever. So went over checked for blood.

575
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Of course, no blood found my arrow. That's a cool

576
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: thing about having those light and us when you can

577
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: see that knock lit up is you can see, you know,

578
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: it's easy to find your arrow, and it's like, well, yeah,

579
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: nothing but dirt on this thing. So anyway, it definitely

580
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: shanked the shot. It was a difficult shot to make

581
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: from that kneeling kneeling spot. I don't typically like to

582
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: shoot an animals that far. I'm usually about a forty

583
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: five got forty five yard guy, but I'm like a

584
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: fifty yards I can make that shot. I can I

585
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: can make the shot when I'm practicing. He didn't seem

586
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: super jumpy I figured he wouldn't jump the string on me.

587
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: So anyhow, I would have liked to say he ducked

588
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: and that's why I missed. And that's kind of at

589
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: first what I thought. But that's the that's the beauty

590
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: of when you record your hunts with a with video

591
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: is you get to go and review the video. No,

592
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: I just shot right over him, damn it. So live

593
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: and learn, right. So this year, what are we gonna

594
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: do to fix these things? Well, I'm hunting new spot

595
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: in Idaho again with a buddy, buddy, Cody Wilson from Wyoming.

596
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna come over and we're gonna go hunt. We did,

597
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: we did some homework. There's quite a few people to

598
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: hunt there, but there's a lot of rugged, backpack cut

599
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: type hunting country. We're gonna hit it, you know, get

600
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: away from people, get away from roads, and we should

601
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: be in them number two and they should have camped

602
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: closer to the areas hunting. Yeah, we're gonna definitely be

603
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: more strategic. That's where this summer I'm gonna do a

604
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: lot of summer work up there in this new area

605
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna hunt. I'm gonna figure it out right,

606
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out the optimal places to camp, and

607
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: if we have to move camp two or three times,

608
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, that's okay. But we're not gonna We're not

609
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: gonna spend driving in a frickin hour from town every

610
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: morning and every evening. That just soaks up too much

611
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: time and energy and gas. And and then third, yeah,

612
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: practicing practice. I'm gonna practice uncomfortable shots. I've been shooting

613
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: out in the cold this winter. I'm gonna continue to

614
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: do that through the winter, and I'm just gonna get

615
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: used to shooting weird. I'm like, I've never really shot

616
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: from sitting positions, like in a chair. I don't usually

617
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: do a lot of kneeling shooting because I don't like

618
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: setting up for elk. I never set up kneeling just

619
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: because as a bowl comes in, if you're kneeling, he

620
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: can come in from a different direction than you're anticipating,

621
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and then now you're screwed up. It's really hard to

622
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: reposition yourself for a shot. If let's say you thought

623
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna come in off to your left and

624
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: you're right handed, but he comes in off to your

625
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: right in you're right handed, you know it's just really

626
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: difficult to make that shot.

627
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: So I do hope.

628
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: Typically don't kneel. I usually let some brush and trees

629
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: and stuff and my camouflage break up my outline. So

630
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: but anyway, I'm gonna practice those tricky shots this year.

631
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: But that's enough of me blabbing about myself.

632
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: Here.

633
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna go over here to the super Secret hotline,

634
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: and what we're gonna do is get some other people's

635
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: opinions and their takes on the year and see how

636
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: it goes. So color number one, let's let's take a listen.

637
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: Hey, this is Shane Frederickson with bo's and bs on Instagram.

638
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 5: And it seemed to me like the wind was always

639
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 5: against me no matter which direction I was hiking. I

640
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: could go from one drainage to the other, around a mountain,

641
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 5: you know, come down up on top of the elk.

642
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: You know.

643
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: However I wanted to approach it to make the wind

644
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: in my favor, it seemed like it always switched or swirled.

645
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: What are some of the methods that you used to

646
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 5: try to beat that? And that feels like an impossible situation,

647
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: But let me know some of your tips and tricks

648
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: of how you beat the wind, thanks.

649
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Right, man, that can be really tough. I experienced that

650
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot over the years. In fact, last fall we

651
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of the same And a lot of

652
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: times if I have bulls bugling in a spot and

653
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: the wind just won't act right, sometimes we'll just sit

654
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: down for an hour or two and kind of try

655
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: to wait it out. And depending on time of day,

656
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: you know that once you get past two o'clock one

657
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: or two o'clock, winds can be kind of iffy, especially

658
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: when I've found it's like the cloud cover a lot

659
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: of times will really screw up. You'll get these big

660
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: puffy clouds. It will go over and they'll cast a

661
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: shadow on the terrain where you're standing, so you can

662
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of watch. You can look across a mountain and

663
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: look over on the other side of the mountain. A

664
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: lot of times you can see the shadow these clouds

665
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: are casting upon the timber, so on your side of

666
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: the mountain. Every time those shadows get cast to where

667
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to work a bowl or whatever. Earlier, you

668
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: know you had let's say, bright sunshine on them spots.

669
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: You have your thermals with that warm air rising. Well

670
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: as soon as that shadow hits. Man, all hell breaks loose,

671
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: that'll you'll get currents that'll just immediately switch and blow

672
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: down hill. Sometimes if it's not real steep country, but

673
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: you know it's kind of maybe more rolling country that's

674
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: not that doesn't have a lot of real good steep

675
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: pronounced tall ridges. You can get real swirly type wins

676
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: in those places. And man, I I always try to

677
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: just push pause, I push paws on the game and

678
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: just wait. It's like, well, I don't I don't want

679
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: to go in there and screw it up with my

680
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: scent before I even you know, get a chance to

681
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: to screw it up on getting them called in so

682
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: very careful. And and some days, you know, I'll admit,

683
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: there's been sometimes we've we've set there for an hour

684
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: or two and maybe you can tell you can look

685
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: at the clouds or whatever, and it's just like it's

686
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: gotten from bad to worse and you just know it's

687
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: not gonna happen today. So a lot of times we'll

688
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: pull out, maybe go somewhere else, try to find somewhere

689
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: else that has more favorable wins. But but I know,

690
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, folks that have limited time, you know,

691
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe you're doing the weekend warrior thing, and it's just like, man,

692
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: I gotta make it happen. The best advice I can

693
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: do is, if you have the uphill thermals and down

694
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: drafts from that kind of a situation, see if there's

695
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: kind of a common ground to where maybe if you

696
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: go in on that on that same contour line that

697
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: the bowl is on, to where maybe you're you're using

698
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: the crosswind advantage instead of you know, completely being down wind.

699
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you're coming in on a ross wind to where

700
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: if it blows up or down, then you're good. But

701
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: if it swirls, you know, like I say, it's game over.

702
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: But that's that's my best advice. And you know, sometimes

703
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: sometimes it just sucks. I've had it where you'll have

704
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: three or four days in a row of that, and

705
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating. It's like, man, I hear bowls and

706
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: we can't get close to them because we know we're

707
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: going to blow them out of here. But you have

708
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of time to be patient a lot

709
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: of times a little straighten up after a while. Sometimes

710
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: I've had bluebird days, just like beautiful bluebird days, not

711
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: a cloud in the sky, not and then the winds

712
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: just get really weird, and I'm sure a meteorologist or

713
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: somebody can tell me why that is. But even in

714
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: those days, I'm just you know, we just play it safe,

715
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: because that's the one thing you can't really, you can't

716
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: really fool, is a bull's nose. So just play it

717
00:40:52,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: safe on those That's what I'd recommend.

718
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 4: All right, color two Listen to his message here.

719
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: Hey, dirt, my name is James. Don't really have a question,

720
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: just calling in to tell about the choke up, and

721
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: I'd like to blame Phelps game calls for everything, not

722
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: really just kidding. It was the last day of our

723
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: hunt in Colorado. We're kind of sitting there twiddling our thumbs,

724
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 3: and we'd located the elk the night before and gone

725
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: in there early in the morning, and we were kind

726
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: of just waiting for something to make some noise, and

727
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, just laughing thinking about what all happened.

728
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: But all of a sudden we heard a bugle and

729
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: we took off after it and we got up above

730
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: the elk. We were both huffing and puffing, catching our breath.

731
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: I looked at my buddy and I said, well, what

732
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: do you think we should do? And he's like, I

733
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: don't know. I was like, well, I'm just going to

734
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: bugle see if we can get him to pop off again.

735
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 3: And so bugled and he chuckled right below us about

736
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was sixty seventy yards, and we

737
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: started working our way up to this little saddle a

738
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: little bit closer, and then all of a sudden I

739
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: caught a look of the bull. He'sing his way up

740
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: the side of the ridge to where we were headed,

741
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: and so I told my buddy to get down. And

742
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: so I got down on my knees on the edge

743
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: of the ridge. And there's probably like a real steep,

744
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: real steep, like I don't know, thirty degree slow, forty

745
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: five degrees.

746
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 5: Slow, just super steep.

747
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: And I got on the edge of this little knife

748
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: ridge and got drawn back on the bull. I was

749
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: waiting for my pin to study from all the adrenaline

750
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: touched the shot off and I heard a loud thing,

751
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: and I saw this black mouthpiece go flying out of

752
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: the corner of my vision and watched the arrow go

753
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: to the left of the bull, and the bull just

754
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: stood there, and I kept trying to put an arrow

755
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: on the string and pull it back again. But I

756
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: couldn't because as I came to realize, my string of

757
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: derailed and that was that was, that was the heartbreak.

758
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 3: My bugle tube got in the way of the string

759
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: and the cam and it the string hit the bugle

760
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: tube and broke the bugle tube and the bull got away.

761
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: And uh, there's a lot longer backstory to the troubles

762
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: from that bugle tube. But I think y'all sent me

763
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: a lemon just kidding.

764
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Oh dang it. So we only have a three minute

765
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: limit on the messages. So he got caught off. Sorry

766
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: about that shit you call in, Dude, that that is

767
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: a heartbreak right there. You work so hard to connect

768
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: to get that opportunity to draw your bow back and

769
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: shoot a ball, and then that happens. Oh, and I

770
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: could I could see that happening just about anyone. I

771
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: always say, like elk hunting, you have to navigate a

772
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: whole bunch of a comedy of errors before you ever

773
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: kill the bowl. Right, there's just so many twists and

774
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: turns and things that can go wrong. And Murphy and

775
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: his law that it raises his damn head every time. Uh,

776
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: it seems like and it. Man, I feel for you.

777
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: That's a that's a tough deal. Yeah yeah, Well, I

778
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: think only advice I got there is is just practice,

779
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, double checking your setup, your stance, your your equipment.

780
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: And I know that that's super hard because in the moment,

781
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're focused so focused on you know, not

782
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: getting picked off and getting your bow drawn, you know,

783
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: making sure you know the yardage, you know, holding your

784
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: bow right, trying to have the right stance, And that's

785
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: just one other thing, you know, making sure you don't

786
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: have a have your bow or a call or binoculars

787
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: or something that are going to interfere with your your string.

788
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: And man, that's a heartbreak. And man, I'm sure that

789
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: one's gonna hurt for a while. So I'm really sorry

790
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: to hear that. Man, next next year, you'll make up

791
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: this year, twenty twenty four, you'll make up for it.

792
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: You'll you'll probably kill a monster up there in that

793
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: same spot. So good luck this fall. All right, Caller three,

794
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: let's hear what you got to say.

795
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Hey, Eric, it's Anthony Sipe from Annis, Montana. One great,

796
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: I just want to pass it on to you. Scored

797
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: my first ball with the bow first bull ever actually

798
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: after eleven seasons of drying and finally made it happen.

799
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: I have a good one.

800
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Take care awesome, So he definitely kicked ass this year. Yeah,

801
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: after eleven seasons. Man, that's some staying power. That's hard.

802
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: That's hard to do and hard to to to get

803
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: that rejection every year and stick with it. You know,

804
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to give up on elk hunting and

805
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: different you know, aspects of the hunt. But that shows

806
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: some real staying power. And congratulations, I'm glad you got

807
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: got one. And and when it happened, you probably thought, oh, geez,

808
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: why didn't I do this all the other times? And

809
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: I feel like every time I kill a bowl that

810
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: I feel this that same way as like, oh, why

811
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: didn't you do this before? But you know, all the

812
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: other times leading up to this, this season has just

813
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: been a disaster and then I finally I get one.

814
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: But I think that that's that's probably one of the

815
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: biggest takeaways is not giving up, you know, being persistent,

816
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: hang out till last day to the last hour. You

817
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: know that that buck this this fall, this last fall,

818
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: had we called it and said, eh, you know, the

819
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: weather's not great let's just let's just have dinner and

820
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: go home tomorrow. You know, you know we're gonna hunt

821
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: from the start bell to the finishing bell. I'm not

822
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: saying I'm perfect. You know, I've had I had it.

823
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of times in the past where

824
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I didn't hunt to the final bell, like I threw

825
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: in the towel a little bit short. I remember in

826
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one in New Mexico, shared a camp with

827
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Lampers and Jason Phelps, and those two ganged up

828
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: and went hunting all the time. We were there with

829
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: their camera guy, and then Dusty and I we hunted

830
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: together for the whole week, and we ran into him

831
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: a couple of times on the on the mountain. But

832
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: it was a tough hunt. It was a brutal hunt.

833
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Elk didn't act right. It seems like, you know, we say, yeah,

834
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: they Elk ain't acting right. I think that's kind of

835
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: how I Elk act. You know, we want them to

836
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: act a certain way, and they just you know, they

837
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: they have a difference of opinion on how they want

838
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: to play their September. You know, it's not not like

839
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: textbook all the time. Of course, so all week, you know,

840
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, we'd had some hot weather, but you would

841
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: we'd have a kind of a thunderstorm roll in several

842
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: times that week, and every time that year a thunderstorm

843
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: and roll in. You know, it kind of get clouded

844
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: up and you'd get a tiny, tiny little bit of

845
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: rain and some thunder and whatever the elk we're doing,

846
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: it would just clam them up.

847
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: You know.

848
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Let's say we did hear a few bugles. As soon

849
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: as that happened, the elk would just shut up. So

850
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: it was our last day, last afternoon, and we'd climbed

851
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: up this mountain. I'd seen this big bull we'd been chasing,

852
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: the same big bull. I called him Grandpa Jones. And

853
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't normally, I don't normally name elk that I'm

854
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: chasing unless there's unless there's something that's just remarkable about him.

855
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: This bowl, I called him Grandpa Jones because he was

856
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: definitely the most mature bowl in the area we're hunting,

857
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have been any kind of big record

858
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: book bowl. He had a weird ass rack. He had

859
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: these He had one browtye that came kind of just

860
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: straight out and then kind of dipped a little bit,

861
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: and I'll swear to God, that thing was probably twenty

862
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: seven inches long. It went out past his nose and

863
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: it was an incredible length for a browtye. And then

864
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: you know, the next two or three points were pretty long,

865
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, so he had real nice the bottom ends

866
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: of his of his rack was good, but then it

867
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: just petered out after the fourth point. Short beamed. One

868
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: side it was a perfect five, but on the side

869
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: he had that weird point. He had like seven or

870
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: eight on that point on that side. But he was

871
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: He was no record book bowl, but he had a

872
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: He had a nice, heavy, big heavy rack, and the

873
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: score might have surprised as you if you were into

874
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: major and horns. Maybe maybe not. I still think he

875
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: was no big record book bowl, but he had a

876
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: giant body. And what overshadowed everything was he had this

877
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: bugle that was just the most gnarly, nasty bugle.

878
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: Just eh.

879
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: You just I heard that bull up on the hill.

880
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: It's like, man, I got to see what that thing is.

881
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: And Dusty and I climbed up the mountain and I'm like, man,

882
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: we got to be getting pretty close. And I walked

883
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: around a bush and there he was this is no joke.

884
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: This thing was probably four yards from me and had

885
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: he had his head down facing me, eating, and he

886
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: had his eyes down focused at the ground. As I

887
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: came around that bush, and he didn't see me, and

888
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. So I slowly started

889
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: pulling an arrow out and getting it knocked because I

890
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: wasn't ready. Of course, I thought he was up the

891
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: hill a ways further. So I slowly trying to narrow knocked.

892
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: And as I was putting my arrow down on the rest,

893
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: I pushed it through the little retainer thing on the

894
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: rest and I didn't have any moleskin on my on

895
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: my on my riser and my bow rookie mistake, and

896
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: my arrow went clanking. It accidentally clanked on the riser

897
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: and the bow looked up. He looked right, he looked

898
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: right through me, and he went and you let out

899
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: this really soft guttural grolly bugle, and then he kind

900
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: of put his head back down started eating again. I

901
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, man, I'm gonna get him. I'm

902
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna get him. So I finally get my arrow on

903
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: the string, I get my release on the string, and

904
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to put some tension on it, and

905
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: he looks up again and looks at me, and then

906
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: you could literally see the recognition in his eyes. He

907
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: just like, that's a fricking guy standing there. And soon

908
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: he as soon as he acknowledged that he was gone,

909
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: he just whirled and took off, and then we ran

910
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: over and grabbed his cows, and and uh. They bugled

911
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: across the hillside, across the mountain, over and across the

912
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: drainage to go over the other side, and there was

913
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: bulls all around. There was probably eight different bulls there.

914
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: It was an absolute rut fest. We hadn't had anything

915
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: like that at all up unto that point. During that

916
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: week had been pretty tough. And Uh, anyway, so two

917
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: more I had two more encounters with that bull. Anyway,

918
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: On the last encounter, he just who do he need?

919
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Is he? We were up on that same hill and

920
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where that thing would go bed down,

921
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: but he would go bed somewhere and he would not

922
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: make a peep. We'd follow these tracks and then we

923
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: kind of lose them. They get through some thick stuff

924
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: and they'd get into some rocky stuff and we would

925
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: lose their tracks. And I don't know where the hell

926
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: the elk went? Is so frustrating. And about the time

927
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: that we'd lost him again, I just we got our

928
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: teeth kicked in morning, did a big thunderstorm rolls in.

929
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, we haven't all week long every

930
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: time a thunder storm rolled in, get a tiny little

931
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: bit of rain, and the elk shut up. I'm like,

932
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: let's go. This is the last there was. You know,

933
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: we had just a few hours, you know, four or

934
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: five hours left of the hunt, and I'm like, let's go,

935
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: let's go back pack our stuff up, Let's get in early,

936
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: head start home, because we got a long ways to

937
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: go home. And if we get if we get back

938
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: with enough time on our hands, we could maybe hunt

939
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: in Idaho a little bit. Well, Lampers and Phelps they

940
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: were out there still, and they didn't they didn't throw

941
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: on the towel. They stuck into the inn, and Lampers

942
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: shot his bowl right there at the ending bell, right

943
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: at the last few minutes a light on the last day.

944
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: They they'd kind of changed areas. They went a couple

945
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: miles away from where we've been chasing Grandpa Jones and

946
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: found a bunch more elk, and it was a melee.

947
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: There was bullspugling everywhere and shooting shooting one. So anyway,

948
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: don't give up, don't give up. I mean that was stupid,

949
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, looking back, that was really stupid to me

950
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: to you know, sacrifice a few hours early start to

951
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, we should have just stuck

952
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: it with it, you know, but you know, at the

953
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: time I justified it, and looking back now is a

954
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: fool to do that. So that won't happen again. I

955
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: can guarantee you I'll get I'll get my teeth kicked

956
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: in again. But I'm not going to give up early

957
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: and go home, all right, Color number four.

958
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 7: Sure, it's good to hear your voice.

959
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 6: Always enjoy your videos and your advice input. Thanks man

960
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 6: on ail Country twenty three was a successful year for myself.

961
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 6: Got some excitement throwing in the deal. Being a brother Ryan.

962
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: I needed to hike about a mile and a half

963
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 7: to cert.

964
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 6: Ridge, where we knew there was elk on either side.

965
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 6: We got there the first morning just after daylight, and

966
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 6: the elk busted us. The next morning, we were I

967
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 6: had a schedule snuck into this ridge. It was dark yet,

968
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 6: so we both laid down for a nap.

969
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 7: By some bluffs on top of this ridge.

970
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 6: Took our backs off, I took my release off, laid

971
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 6: my bowl on the ground.

972
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 7: After thirty minutes we woke up.

973
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 6: Just starting to get light. Sure enough, there was elk,

974
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 6: so we were. The wind was blown a little bit

975
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 6: left to right, and we were watching these elks trying

976
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 6: to figure out where they were going to try to

977
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 6: cross this ridge, and our.

978
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 7: Hoods were up and lo and.

979
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 6: Behold, we heard a meow right behind us. We both

980
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 6: would and there was a chat that had snuck up

981
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 6: on us, and it was crouching. It was a few

982
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 6: years back, maybe about seven yards from us, sitting at

983
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 6: the base of a tree.

984
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 7: Came in totally quiet.

985
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 6: Wow, So that got our adrenaline growing. My brother, neither

986
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 6: of us had.

987
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 7: Handguns or anything.

988
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 6: My bow was laying on the ground, I don't know,

989
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 6: twenty feet away, and he yelled at it to get

990
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 6: out of there, and it looked at us for a

991
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: bit size the stuff, I guess, and decided it could

992
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 6: have an easier meal somewhere else. But if it hadn't me.

993
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 7: Out, we didn't know it was there, but focused our attention.

994
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 6: Back on the elk and probably sixteen minutes later, a

995
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 6: small six point he was busted off part way up

996
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 6: one side.

997
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 7: He was making his way towards us.

998
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 6: And at sixty yards I drew my bow back.

999
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 7: My brother was behind me.

1000
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 6: He let out a cow call, and that thing just wheeled,

1001
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 6: turned straight towards us, right on a string, come in

1002
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 6: eleven yards, whacked him and he did a thirty second

1003
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: death run.

1004
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 7: Anyways, good time. I was my younger brother.

1005
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 6: Last time I bow hunted elk with him and killed London.

1006
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, that three minutes got him, cut him off.

1007
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. I would like to hear the last,

1008
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: the tail end of your story there. Thank you for calling.

1009
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Man, what a wild story, having a mountain

1010
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: lion stalk you, spook it off and then call and

1011
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: then call in and kill a big bull. That's I

1012
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: don't think it gets any better than that. That's that's

1013
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: the ultimate. I've never had a mountain lion stalk me

1014
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: that I know of, or a bear or or a

1015
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: wolf for that matter. But it's a it's a matter

1016
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: of time, right. If you're out there, you know, it's

1017
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: just a game of odds. If you're out there, you

1018
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: put yourself out there enough times, you're gonna have a

1019
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: run in. Someday. I'll probably have a run in with

1020
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: a cat, wolf, bear, whatever we have you. Hopefully it's

1021
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: a black bear, not a grizzly. But here's an old

1022
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: story from back in my olden days as a young man.

1023
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: I remember I remember talking to a guy and he'd

1024
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: had a similar situation with a cat during September, and

1025
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: he was calling an elk and he got kind of

1026
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: got the willies, you know, he's just like, man, my

1027
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: hair stood up, and he's like, man, what the heck's

1028
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: going on? And he turned around and there's a mountain

1029
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: lion crouched just right behind him, just a few yards

1030
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: behind him. So he drew his bow. He had his

1031
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: arrow knocked, drew his bow, pulled back, shot, the cat jump, rolled,

1032
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: took off. Couldn't find it. Never found a blood some

1033
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: but it never could find it. Fast forward a few years,

1034
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember how many years exactly, probably two or three,

1035
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: and in the in the newspaper, there was a picture

1036
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: of a guy with a mountain lion that he'd taken

1037
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: with dogs in the wintertime, and it only had one eye,

1038
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: and upon skinning, the cat out. They discovered he had

1039
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: a broadhead in his eye socket, and follow the story

1040
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: a little further. It was in that same area where

1041
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: that other hunter had shot that one that was stalking

1042
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: him and then it got away. So you know, had

1043
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: the had the broadheads to you know, match it up,

1044
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: and and the the little bit of the shaft of

1045
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: the arrow to confirm his story. So it is crazy.

1046
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: Crazy things can happen out there in the woods. You

1047
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: get predators stalking you, the hunter becomes the hunted. I

1048
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: hope I don't have a spooky run in with one,

1049
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's going to happen at some point.

1050
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: But thanks for the story, man, that's awesome. Congratulations, glad

1051
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: you guys kicked as this year. Before Let's see what

1052
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: the next caller, caller number five, I had to say.

1053
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 8: Oh, hey there it's Dusty. Yeah, your cameraman, you know,

1054
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 8: the guy that filmed you this past fall. Yeah, I

1055
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 8: thought to call in and let the listeners hear the

1056
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 8: real list of Dirk Durham's shortcomings. Oh, I will say,

1057
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 8: I actually wish more than anything that I could provide

1058
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 8: your listeners with some positive things that you did this

1059
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 8: past fall. But let's just be real. You did nothing

1060
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 8: positive this past fall. Well, being the nice guy that

1061
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 8: I am, I thought it still might be helpful. Provided

1062
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 8: a list for you, Dirt of a few things that

1063
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 8: you did wrong.

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01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, Susan, thank you.

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01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 8: If you can share them, you know, talk it over

1066
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 8: with your listeners, let him get to know.

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: The real jerk.

1068
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 8: Dream now. I'm only doing a few of them because

1069
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 8: if I do the whole list, you'd have to make

1070
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 8: two podcasts the first thing you did wrong. How many

1071
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 8: times does a man have to hit the snooze button

1072
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 8: before he gets up for someone who acts like they

1073
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 8: love help coming, I think I know what you really love.

1074
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 8: Sleep Well, maybe it's snoring good night. I don't know

1075
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 8: how the entire tent indicated. I was actually looking forward

1076
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 8: to getting up so I didn't have to hear that

1077
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 8: nine horsepower chainsaw with blunt edges trying to cut through

1078
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 8: a camerack tree on that.

1079
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just get up for just a man, I'm

1080
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: just a man.

1081
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 8: Come on now, how about this one? How about we

1082
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 8: tell your listeners about how you pretend to be driving

1083
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 8: around looking the right canyon to bugle down into, when

1084
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 8: in reality you're just driving around to let all the

1085
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 8: other elk hunters or as you call them, your fans,

1086
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 8: that the bugler is here. I mean, we spent more

1087
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 8: time talking to the people than we did bugling for elk.

1088
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 8: I wonder why we didn't hear anything.

1089
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: Well, I have a pen sign autographs, you know.

1090
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 8: Oh, here's another thing you did wrong. Maybe if we

1091
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 8: just spent more time in the woods instead of going

1092
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 8: back to town for a huckleberry milkshake, you might have

1093
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 8: had more opportunities to find out. Now I'm all confused.

1094
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 8: Do you like sleep more or milkshake more?

1095
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: I really like you can.

1096
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 8: Talk about that on your little podcast. All right, you

1097
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 8: know what, that's all I'm going to give you. That

1098
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 8: should be enough to talk about on What's this called

1099
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 8: cutting the distance? Oh my goodness, there's no cutting the

1100
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 8: distance this past season except from mountain to milkshake. Maybe

1101
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 8: you know what, I actually might listen to this podcast.

1102
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 8: See how you're gonna weel yourself out of the.

1103
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Later. Dusty got me good, He got me good? All right,

1104
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: that's why we camped in town so I could get

1105
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: my huckleberry milkshake every day.

1106
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: Oh.

1107
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who who screens these phone calls anyway. Yeah,

1108
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have a talk later. Uh you

1109
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: get uh screen these uh these these callers a little better.

1110
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't think we should be letting a guy named

1111
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: Dusty Rupe cameraman Dusty call in. Uh, he's something else.

1112
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: We have a great time hunting together, and he's a

1113
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: heck of a camera guy and a good friend. So

1114
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, Dusty. I hope you weren't serious.

1115
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: If so, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was in a

1116
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: bad place. I needed to kill an elk. All right,

1117
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: all right, calling number six.

1118
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 9: Hey Dirk, it's your friend Richard from each Country, and

1119
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 9: I'm calling the report from this last September and give

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01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 9: you my report card. You know, I was fortunate enough

1121
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 9: this last archery season to shoot a bowl. However, that

1122
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 9: did not come without triumphs. I spent a total of

1123
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 9: twenty one days in the elk woods and they were

1124
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 9: hard fought days, no questions at all. So something that

1125
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 9: I think would be good to get your feedback on

1126
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 9: is the elk here in Idaho never really seemed to

1127
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 9: go crazy repfest and it was tough, and there were

1128
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 9: two bulls in my mind that I can recall that

1129
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 9: I spent a lot of time facing because they just

1130
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 9: never fully went ready, but they were extremely vocal bulls

1131
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 9: who just kept tugging me along. We actually named one

1132
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 9: of them the Big Boss Baby Bowl because he seemed

1133
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 9: to be a pretty nice six point but he always

1134
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 9: just kept his distance and he.

1135
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: Likes to talk to us.

1136
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 9: But we get to that eighty two one hundred yards

1137
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 9: and he just seemed to kind of get really leary

1138
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 9: and never really wanted to commit. So I guess the

1139
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 9: question is is what tactics calling or stocking do you

1140
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 9: prefer when it comes to bulls who are very vocal

1141
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 9: and will respond back to you even at close distances,

1142
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 9: but just decide themselves to never actually close the distance

1143
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 9: and come in. Tried a couple different tactics with shooter

1144
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 9: callar situations, you know, sending the shooter up and then

1145
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 9: pulling the collar back and everything. But he's elsa smart

1146
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 9: and they don't get to be mature by being dumb.

1147
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 9: So it's something that we spent a lot of days

1148
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 9: is this September doing and I think it would be

1149
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 9: good to get your insight on so next year can

1150
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 9: be a better year and maybe we don't have to

1151
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 9: spend twenty one days in one state hunting out. So

1152
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 9: I appreciate the feedback and look forward to hearing your answer.

1153
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: Thanks, Hey, thanks for calling in. Richard. Richard and his

1154
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: dad they do. They have a YouTube channel called Steep

1155
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: Country Outdoors. I watched that video of you shooting that

1156
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: bowl on YouTube. So cool film. So if you guys

1157
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: are bored and it's wintertime and you want to kind

1158
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: of beat the beat the winter blues, definitely check that out.

1159
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: It's a steep country country with a K U K

1160
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: K you and tr Anyway, anyway, thanks for the call

1161
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: and the question, man that that's exactly what I experienced

1162
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: last fall too. It's like the elk were social distancing.

1163
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: They never got pissed off. They would talk, they would talk,

1164
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: but I could not. I never got to the point

1165
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: where they would just lose their mind and just get

1166
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: really aggressive. And I've kind of talked about this on

1167
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: some of the other podcasts where earlier on where I

1168
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: call it the Year the Huckleberry, Right, the Year the Huckleberry.

1169
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: The elk don't rut hard, they don't bugle like they

1170
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: normally do. And if we equate this to what do

1171
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: you call it the year of the huckleberry? Well, on

1172
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: good huckleberry years. If you don't know what huckleberry is,

1173
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a blueberry. But they're growing. They

1174
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: grow in the mountains as certain parts of Idaho, Montana,

1175
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: maybe some Wyoming. I haven't seen a lot of them

1176
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: in Wyoming, definitely Washington in Oregon. But they're delicious, man,

1177
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: Huckleberry milkshakes, get out, huckleberry pie, huckleberry anything is amazing. Anyway,

1178
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: on the years there's a bumper crop of huckleberries that's

1179
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: attributed to a couple of things, maybe a really good

1180
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: snowpack and a really wet summer, maybe both, maybe one

1181
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: or the other one. But those huckleberries to do really well,

1182
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: they need a lot of moisture, and sometimes in the

1183
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: summer we have some pretty hot, dry summers in Idaho

1184
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: in the Northwest, and sometimes they don't do as good

1185
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: as others. And this year we had a lot of

1186
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: We had a really good snowpack. We had a lot

1187
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: of rain this summer, more than that we have in

1188
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: the last few and the huggleberries were good. What the

1189
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: heck is elki huckleberries? Well, they do, but not on

1190
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: the scale like bears do. But the biggest takeaway is

1191
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of huckleberries, there's a lot of grass,

1192
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of feed normal the other stuff the

1193
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: elk like, you know, whether it's browse, you know, you're

1194
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: you're talking maples and mountain maples, and you're talking all

1195
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: sorts of other kind of little brush and browse and

1196
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: then grass. When there's there's a lot of water, there's

1197
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of that feed all over the mountains. So

1198
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: the elk doesn't seem to concentrate. And this is all theory.

1199
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: This is my theory. You know, maybe you guys have

1200
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: a different one. Be cool to hear it. But when

1201
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of when there's a lot of grass everywhere,

1202
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: they don't seem to concentrate as much into those into

1203
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: those places like on a dry year, on a dry ear,

1204
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: the feed is not quite so pronounced. It's in, it's

1205
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: in more focused spots, and those elk tend to go

1206
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: to those focused spots, and not only they compete for feed,

1207
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: but there can they they find they find each other,

1208
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, there, and then there's more bulls competing for

1209
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: those females, and that creates a dynamic where they're a

1210
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: lot more rambunctious. You know, they're fighting or all the time,

1211
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: or keeping those other bowls away all the time. So

1212
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: in like dry years too, you know, you see you

1213
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: see a lot of broken bulls, and part of me thinks, well,

1214
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: is because the're dry and the antlers are more brittle.

1215
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't have as good a feed that year,

1216
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: and there they didn't have as much to put into

1217
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: their horns to make them strong. But on the second half,

1218
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's because they're so scrapy because all

1219
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:20,440
Speaker 1: those elk are concentrated on those food sources. So anyway,

1220
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: I kind of digressed there a little bit. But anyway,

1221
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: I kind of experienced that same thing this last fall.

1222
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: And but on the flip side, I did I did

1223
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: talk to some guys and gals that had really good luck,

1224
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: they had better than average luck and where they were hunting.

1225
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the difference was. A lot

1226
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: of it's the same type of country, but not the

1227
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: same country where I was at. So elk are always

1228
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: a head scratcher. You think, right when you think you

1229
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: got got them figured out, then they they let you

1230
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: know that you don't have figured out. So, but that's

1231
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: why I always say this is the theory. But what

1232
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: I like to do in those instances where the bulls

1233
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: just kind of social social distance themselves from me, it's

1234
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: imperative to have another caller. So you have a caller

1235
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: and a shooter. It's really difficult when you're just by

1236
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: yourself solo. Last fall, I was solo, and it was

1237
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: really difficult for me to to to call and then

1238
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: get close enough to the bowl without him just kind

1239
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: of spooking off. So if you have a caller that

1240
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: can stay back one hundred and two hundred yards and

1241
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: just talk, you know, keep them talking, not get aggressive,

1242
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: just keep them talking, just like hey there, oh hey,

1243
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: you know, you're just you're just maintaining contact with your

1244
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: calls to where you're just keeping that bulk talking. And

1245
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: that's when your shooter just gets quiet and gets over

1246
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: to that bowl and tries to sneak in on them.

1247
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: That's that's my best recommendation on that stuff, because I

1248
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: know exactly what you mean. Just you put it a

1249
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: little bit of pressure, or you get a little bit,

1250
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: you take a couple of steps towards them, You go

1251
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: one hundred yards towards them and they go four hundred

1252
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: yards away, and that is so frustrating. I've I've did this,

1253
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: that whole scenario all last September. So maybe get your

1254
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: pops there to do to do the call in and

1255
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: let you put the sneak on them or vice versa.

1256
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: I know I watched your video. I've seen you guys

1257
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of did some of that too, So maybe focus

1258
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: on that a little bit more. Of course, it's not

1259
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: a perfect science. It's it's difficult, especially in country. It's

1260
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: got a little bit of cover, it's hard to sneak

1261
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: up on them. There's hard to be quiet. Those balls

1262
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: will hear you coming if it's super brushy or thick.

1263
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: But anyway, thanks for calling Richard, good luck this fall.

1264
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: Look forward to see what you and your dad doing

1265
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: this this fall of twenty twenty four. Caller seven, Hey, Dirk, Dave.

1266
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 10: Mccotter here, why I'm your resident. So what I came

1267
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 10: remember with the twenty twenty three season is do not

1268
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 10: ever I think you have it in the bad I

1269
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 10: get too confident or too cocky. I drew an area

1270
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 10: that is right next to my home, an area that

1271
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Speaker 10: I've been hunting for eight nine years. That I know

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 10: like the back of my hand, that for the past

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01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 10: four years padded out in Okay. So when I draw

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 10: two tags for that unit, you know, two people in

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 10: my family, I'm like, oh, easily, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Have two bowls.

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Speaker 10: You know, every time I killed a bull there the bolt,

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01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 10: we've had it killed, you know, within the first couple

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 10: hours of the first day. You know, we always have

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01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 10: both killed in days. So I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 10: the first we'll have. We'll have two bowls down in

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01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 10: the first week of September, and then you know we'll

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 10: go on to go do this hunt over in western

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01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 10: Wyoming and then Medible Glassy to do this hunt. Well,

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 10: guess what, everything was completely different this year and threw

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 10: us a curveball. I hunted that area for nineteen straight

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 10: consecutive days and never killed a single didn't didn't feel

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 10: a single.

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Speaker 2: Tag this year.

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Speaker 10: So when you think if when you draw that, draw

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 10: them tags and you think it's a home run based

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 10: on previous seasons and previous experiences, yeah, don't do that.

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01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 10: And I don't care about what anybody says, like, oh,

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 10: I know a season like that, I know an area

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 10: like the back of my hand. I can't you know,

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01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 10: or with those people are saying, oh yeah, I consistently

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 10: fill tags or consistent hunters. I don't care how good

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 10: you are. An area can change year after year. It's

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01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 10: not going to be the same every year. So don't

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 10: ever think that you are so good that you got

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 10: it in the back. That's all I got to say.

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Speaker 1: Man, you hit the nail on the head so hard

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: and so square right there. What is that movie?

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 8: Is it?

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: Dang it? It's the one with Ben Stiller and oh

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: it's Dodgeball. And one of the lines, one of the

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: quotes off there, and it's so stupid the quote. The

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: quote is you don't score until you score. But every

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01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: time I hear something like this, it reminds me of

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: that quote, that quotation, like you don't score until you score.

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: You might think you're gonna score, but you're not. Like

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01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: it's easy to get that lulled into that that confidence

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: of oh yeah, I've got this area figured out, or

1314
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: I've got these elk figured out, or I'm I'm I've

1315
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: got this I'm a pretty good hunter. And I'm just

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: here to tell you winning streaks are made to be broken.

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01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: I know some some really, really great hunters that are

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01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: on some killer winning streaks, and man I got the

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: most respect for him. But at some point you may

1320
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: get that broken. Now, depending on there's factors to where

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: Why did your winning screens winning streak get broken? Was

1322
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,839
Speaker 1: it just a comedy of errors like we talked earlier,

1323
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: Like you know, you just can't catch a break, bad

1324
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: wind getting picked off elk, don't bugle, or you had opportunities,

1325
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: but maybe you know you were just really trying to

1326
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,839
Speaker 1: get that one certain bowl and it just never happened.

1327
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: That's a pretty fulfilling way to break a winning streak.

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: It's frustrating as hell, but it's still fulfilling because you

1329
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of had a lot of fun. You

1330
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: you could have taken a bowl, but you weren't. It

1331
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: wasn't you weren't your heart wasn't it. You just didn't

1332
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: want that one. You had your heart set on something else.

1333
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a pretty fulfilling way. But

1334
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: sometimes try as hard as you want, you cannot connect

1335
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: the dots, and those are about the worst way to

1336
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 1: in their winning streak. It's very frustrating. So man I

1337
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: feel you and I've been there. I'm I mean I've

1338
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: been I've had some pretty damn good winning streaks and

1339
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I'm hunting this spot. I know

1340
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: it inside and out. I've done my due diligence. I've

1341
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: hunted there, I know what the elk do, and just

1342
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: get my teeth kicked in. So you're not alone, man,

1343
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: And that's a very good point. So I think confidence kills,

1344
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: but you can't be so confident that you maybe overlook

1345
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: some of the just some little things you know that

1346
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe contribute to success or just get you just get

1347
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: beat up, and it just you go home and you

1348
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 1: sit there in silence and stare at the wall for hours,

1349
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: like what just happened? I can't believe my season ended

1350
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: like that? But anyway, the good thing is is twenty

1351
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: twenty four is a new season and it's a great

1352
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: time to start a new winning streak and not a

1353
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: losing streak. We don't want to get on like on

1354
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: a losing streak. My buddy Chuck Charlie, he's on a

1355
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: hell of a losing streak. Ah, Man, I feel for

1356
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: the guy, but he's gonna turn around one of these

1357
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: days because he's a heck of a hunter. He's a

1358
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 1: heck of a caller, But I know it's just you

1359
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: gotta he get bucked off. You gotta climb back in

1360
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: the saddle again and just get after it. So anyway,

1361
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: thanks for that call. All right, here's the last caller,

1362
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: caller number eight. Let's hear what color eats guys to.

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 5: Say, Hey, Dirk, this is Tyler Oaks with Timber Cruiser

1364
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 5: Outdoors up here in North Idaho. Our season, our twenty

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01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 5: twenty three season actually went pretty.

1366
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 7: Dang good for us up here.

1367
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 9: I bought a resident tag and a.

1368
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 7: Non resident tag and managed to fill both tags with

1369
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 7: in about a week and a half of each other

1370
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 7: on bulls.

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 9: And we ended up calling in about eight different bulls

1372
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 9: in a matter.

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01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 7: Of a week and half up here in North Idaho.

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01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 9: You know how hot in Idaho is.

1375
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 5: It's pretty well thick and nasty.

1376
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 7: But we were able to get it done.

1377
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it was a pretty rad season for us.

1378
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 8: So we learned a whole bunch and I hope.

1379
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 9: You had a decent season and wait to listen to it.

1380
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: But Tyler Oaks, that guy's a That guy is an

1381
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: Elk killer. He's half elk. I think he I met him.

1382
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: I did a seminar in North Idaho. Here three years ago,

1383
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: Jim Huntsman, my buddy Jim and I did a put

1384
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: together a elk hunting seminar up there three years ago

1385
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: and met Tyler, and the guy's half elk. He's tough,

1386
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: he's fit, he lives it. He's a hell of an

1387
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: elk hunter and just a great guy. So, man, I

1388
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: can't I can't tell you how happy I am for

1389
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: for people like that, who who who get it done?

1390
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, good for you, man, that's that's awesome. So

1391
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: I'd like a fantastic here there you go a little

1392
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: different part of the state. Richard is beating his head

1393
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: against the wall because the elk won't rut hard and

1394
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: Tyler's up there. He killed two of them. So you

1395
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: just never know. And always, I always say, I always

1396
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: tell people to stay mobile, right, don't get stuck in

1397
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: a rut. And where you're hunting in that particular spot,

1398
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: maybe it's really easy to like, oh, I know there's

1399
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: elk here, and I don't want to leave. But sometimes

1400
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: branching out and changing going from one side of the

1401
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: hunting unit over to the other one, you know, depend

1402
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: on how big the unit is you might be able

1403
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: to cover one hundred miles in between or something. And

1404
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: sometimes just changing those zip codes will produce big dividends

1405
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: because elk may not be doing squat where you've been hunting,

1406
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: but over on the other side of the unit, they're

1407
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: on fire. I've had that. I don't know how many

1408
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: times work out for me that way, so I always

1409
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: recommend it. And this year I did that a lot.

1410
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: I jumped around all over the zip codes and I

1411
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: still got my teeth kicked in. So I'm just you know,

1412
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: it's it's.

1413
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 4: It's a rebuilding year.

1414
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 1: I'd like to say we're rebuilding. We're gonna build back better.

1415
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: I hope this fall, so no, definitely is gonna be

1416
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: a better, better fall. I'm gonna new new slate, new canvas,

1417
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna put in our summer work. It's

1418
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. We're gonna have a lot of fun.

1419
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: So anyhow, Yeah, and you know what, if you guys

1420
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: want to call in anytime and leave a message with

1421
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: a question on elk hunting, deer hunting, turkey hunting, bear hunting,

1422
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: if you want to be a smart ass and say

1423
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: something funny about Jason Phelps and how his his pink

1424
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: diaphragms suck. Those are the best. Those are even better.

1425
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: I will play those all day long because you know,

1426
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: we know who Team Maverick is. If you know, you know.

1427
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: But anyway, if you want to call in, uh, call

1428
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: the Super Secret hotline. It's two O eight two one

1429
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: nine seven seven zero one, leave a message. I have

1430
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: three minutes.

1431
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 8: I know.

1432
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: It's like, how do I fit it all into three minutes?

1433
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: Fit fit into three minutes. We'll read, we'll play it

1434
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: on the air, we'll uh, we'll kick it around, we'll

1435
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: talk about it, and we'll we'll go from there. If

1436
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,480
Speaker 1: you guys follow and if you guys have Instagram, Facebook,

1437
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: Jason Phelps, I mean he's struggling. His his Instagram sucks.

1438
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: He's got I don't know how many followers, hardly any

1439
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: on his personal one. Now, Phelps game Calls is huge, right,

1440
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: and that's where he started out on the Phelps Game

1441
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: Calls page. So but then he started a personal one

1442
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: and it's just not don't going so well for him.

1443
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: So hey, if you guys are on there and you

1444
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: like the podcast, you like our calls, you like what

1445
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: we do. We like following our adventures. Go give Jason Phelps.

1446
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: It's Jason Glenn Phelps on Instagram a follow. Hit him

1447
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: up with a friend request on Facebook. He's probably got

1448
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: so many he can't accepting more friends on Facebook, though,

1449
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: I get I'll bet he's he's one of those guys.

1450
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: But if if you, if you feel so inclined you

1451
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: want to give me a follow. It's the bugler one

1452
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: word on Instagram and Facebook and uh and and check

1453
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: out my YouTube channel. There's some some how to use

1454
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: elk call videos on there. They're really good, walk you

1455
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,839
Speaker 1: through all the steps of how to use the elk calls.

1456
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: And there's some cool hunts on there too. Speaking of hunts,

1457
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 1: February fifth, I believe a new film is going to

1458
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: drop on the Phelps Game Calls channel YouTube channel, and

1459
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: it's called Ghost Bowls of the North. Dusty Rupe and

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01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: I cameraman Dusty. In twenty twenty two we were up

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: in the North Country hunting bugling bowls and it's a

1462
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: pretty good film. Pretty good film. Go get a watch

1463
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: if you're bored and want to watch a little bit

1464
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: of elk hunting. Like I said, February fifth, it's going

1465
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: to come out if you follow us on social we'll

1466
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: make a big deal about it and put out some

1467
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: trailers and some teasers and some announcements to let you

1468
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: know when that drops in case you forget. But anyway,

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01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: that's coming up. Pretty excited about it. So until next time, guys,

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and we'll catch you on the flip

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Speaker 1: flop

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Speaker 4: The bad time