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Speaker 1: motherfucking We got a jewelry expert done everything, gets everything,
Speaker 1: what you want, makes it happen.
Speaker 3: Mister motherfucking game. So we're gonna get straight to it now.
Speaker 5: Gave.
Speaker 1: Let's let us know the jury game, right, it seems
Speaker 1: like it's only only five jewelers at one time, like
Speaker 1: you know this, it's a whole bunch of other jewelers.
Speaker 3: There's only five jewelers. Who really win? Is this jewy
Speaker 3: secret Illuminati?
Speaker 6: No, it's just uh, it's just social media got ship
Speaker 6: really fucked up? Right, because you know, you know me
Speaker 6: a long time. I've been doing this for a very
Speaker 6: long time. Right, Uh did this without any Instagram, any
Speaker 6: any social media, right, and uh, I think my Space
Speaker 6: was just coming out when I started.
Speaker 7: But I was already still doing what I was doing.
Speaker 6: I was already in in the streets, in the field,
Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it. You know, I would
Speaker 6: put I put in the work, and I had book
Speaker 6: bags in the clubs, just running around doing crazy ship
Speaker 6: with a bunch of wolves around.
Speaker 7: Bro New York. MV was envy Exit clubs, wild clubs.
Speaker 6: Like Okay, I think a lot of Yes, I respect
Speaker 6: what they're doing, all of it. I wish them for
Speaker 6: the best. I have no issue beef got for me
Speaker 6: with nobody. You know, I'm in my own lane. You know,
Speaker 6: let them, you know, do that. But social media, social media.
Speaker 6: You know, it's very different these days. Like anybody can
Speaker 6: just come to somebody, you know store and take a
Speaker 6: bunch of pics and you know, post it and say
Speaker 6: I'm a celebrity jeweler when they haven't seen the celebrity
Speaker 6: in their life. Even if they do take care of
Speaker 6: one or two people, you know, you're labeled the celebrity Jews.
Speaker 7: And I don't know about that. But you know, if
Speaker 7: you know, I don't get it that way. You know,
Speaker 7: I look at it.
Speaker 6: You have to have a relationship with bombs, you know,
Speaker 6: like I have relationships with my clientele.
Speaker 1: We have a relationship, right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you cursed me the funk out, I cursed you.
Speaker 1: We always do back in relationship.
Speaker 3: The same thing.
Speaker 7: I have to say.
Speaker 1: A few people beefing over jewelry. Okay, just a certain thing.
Speaker 1: And if ship don't go, I'm gonna go over there.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 7: That's not rich.
Speaker 3: I'll never go.
Speaker 6: No, I'll never go, you know. But again, to me,
Speaker 6: that's really I love it. You know, But what would.
Speaker 3: You say was your breakout piece?
Speaker 1: Because like every time I walk in your office, it's
Speaker 1: always the big jay Z was that the first piece
Speaker 1: that was ever made?
Speaker 3: And that doesn't you crush?
Speaker 1: Was that one of the because remember when Jay wore
Speaker 1: actually he was like killing mister t the first time
Speaker 1: was was one? Was that your first breakout piece? And
Speaker 1: and and just steck with that one for now?
Speaker 6: No, No, that was not my break at that moment.
Speaker 6: It was, yes, but because.
Speaker 1: That's the first of it.
Speaker 6: That's the second question of it's kind first, the cut
Speaker 6: of it's kind like World Guinness Book of Workers trying
Speaker 6: to call me and put it up.
Speaker 7: I called him, I'm like sure, can I do this?
Speaker 7: And he's like no, I'm like okay, wow, And I
Speaker 7: said no.
Speaker 1: So you tried to get in the World Book and Work.
Speaker 1: They called you, they called me, and then you asked,
Speaker 1: I don't know, he seems he don't want.
Speaker 7: I don't play that game.
Speaker 6: But I believe my first breakout piece was nothing crazy,
Speaker 6: nothing big.
Speaker 7: It was for the one who really put me on
Speaker 7: was Angie.
Speaker 1: Martinez Andie Martinez and yes.
Speaker 6: My you know, my big breakout was when I was
Speaker 6: eighteen nineteen years old.
Speaker 7: That's how I met everybody.
Speaker 1: So so so so, how did you meet Angie?
Speaker 7: So thank you. I think I don't know.
Speaker 6: I guess I was in some club or something and
Speaker 6: somebody was just like, yo, we have a video shoot.
Speaker 7: When she was rapping, right.
Speaker 3: That's all I could go.
Speaker 6: I had got John, I was so I was very
Speaker 6: new at this. You know, at that time video shoots,
Speaker 6: they say be there at two o'clock. I'm like, a
Speaker 6: fucking be there at one forty, like wing around.
Speaker 1: It's just you that was telling you, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking, you know, I'm very you know at
Speaker 6: that time professional, be there on time.
Speaker 7: I'm fucking there twenty minutes early. Bro.
Speaker 6: She just thought ten hours later, what the fuck? I'm like,
Speaker 6: this is crazy. I'm like I'm sitting in the trail
Speaker 6: or whatever. But before all of that that happened, Andrew,
Speaker 6: she had the Animal House records at that time, so
Speaker 6: I cao.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So she's like, I want a house with you know,
Speaker 6: just a house, make me a house, and this and
Speaker 6: that and this is this when she was on ninety seven.
Speaker 7: So I was like, yeah, I got you. I'm going
Speaker 7: to make the sting for this jury. The house it
Speaker 7: was appending. It was like a house, let's go house something.
Speaker 7: I forgot the name of the house, Ian t or
Speaker 7: something like that.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, it was Animal House. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I was like, all right, beg give me, let me,
Speaker 6: let me do my thing. So I and there was
Speaker 6: like a record player in the like where the window
Speaker 6: is supposed to be.
Speaker 7: So I took that and I made it spin. You know,
Speaker 7: back in those.
Speaker 4: Times, nobody had a spinning before the spinning spins.
Speaker 6: So I'm in its spin and the record you could
Speaker 6: take it on and off, you know, the little the needle.
Speaker 6: So I did that and I presented it to him.
Speaker 6: It was like, oh ship, you know pick House really
Speaker 6: at that time amore.
Speaker 1: He's kidding now, but he's still yeah.
Speaker 6: So then so then I delivered it and from there
Speaker 6: they were like, oh, listen, we have a video shoot.
Speaker 7: Come to the video shoot. You know. That's where I
Speaker 7: met j Lo.
Speaker 6: That's where I met Joe Crack and everybody was in there,
Speaker 6: and that's how it all started with that.
Speaker 1: And uh and what do you did you have a
Speaker 1: shop at that time?
Speaker 3: No, no, I have.
Speaker 6: I had a booth at uh on the diamondustry. I
Speaker 6: had a booth inside of the inside of an exchange.
Speaker 6: I took the whole back. You know, it was nothing crazy.
Speaker 6: It was about this big like the table like right here.
Speaker 6: Nothing crazy, you know, two showcases and uh look eighteen
Speaker 6: nineteen years old, just you know, doing what I was doing.
Speaker 6: And uh, funny crazy story after that video, after that
Speaker 6: video shoot, and I packed up. It was like two
Speaker 6: three in the morning, and I get back to the
Speaker 6: office the next day and I'm going.
Speaker 7: Through the stuff.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't write anything down, invoice, this, this,
Speaker 6: fucking throw everything in the bag and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 6: You know I did write it, you know, certain things down,
Speaker 6: big big pieces. I come back five carriage studs each. Wow, God,
Speaker 6: not not in my bag.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what the fuck. I'm like, I said it's
Speaker 6: over and you started. I'm done. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 6: Back then, five characters each was like two hunch grand Wow.
Speaker 6: If not more, I'm like, I'm fucked. A couple of
Speaker 6: hours later, my head is down, like this fucking Peckhouse
Speaker 6: walks in through the door, had him on fucking walks in.
Speaker 6: He's like, what happened? I don't know him from a
Speaker 6: whole no wall. Back then, I just handed the guy.
Speaker 6: I don't know him. I'm thinking motherfuckers into my head.
Speaker 6: You fucking slip.
Speaker 1: I'm sucking.
Speaker 6: He's like, you're good. I'm like, nah, bro, I lost
Speaker 6: my earrings over there. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 6: He's like these.
Speaker 7: I'm like wow, shit, Wow, I'm like wow. Shout out
Speaker 7: to pecos Bro.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: So a person is starting now, do you do you
Speaker 1: borrow the jewel young assignment until.
Speaker 3: You sell it? A cool So how does that go?
Speaker 3: So a person that's coming.
Speaker 6: Up in this business, you need relationships. It's all about relationships.
Speaker 6: You can make it or break it with your name.
Speaker 7: You know. Yes, it's good to have the money.
Speaker 6: You can do cash memos, you know, they you bring
Speaker 6: the you know, you bring them whatever.
Speaker 7: Hundred gees and you take a hundred g's with the ship.
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying. And then when you.
Speaker 6: Come back, you drop off the jewelry minus whatever you
Speaker 6: sold and they give you a difference in some In
Speaker 6: my situations, most of it is where I just come
Speaker 6: take whatever the fuck I want. Not back then, back
Speaker 6: then it was you know, here, take a little here,
Speaker 6: don't you can't? You know you're young blacks. You know
Speaker 6: you don't have insurance, nothing, you're just starting out. But
Speaker 6: that's how Usually it's all about building a relationship with
Speaker 6: the vendors, with your you know, with the ones who
Speaker 6: are the O g's in the game.
Speaker 7: You know, you're just not just gonna come out of nowhere,
Speaker 7: and just.
Speaker 5: How do you even get that credential to even get family.
Speaker 1: It's it's you know, it's somebody who knows somebody work.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a family. You know, if if if
Speaker 6: somebody brings you in, like my boy Mike, you know,
Speaker 6: like Lee knows my brother Mike, like.
Speaker 1: Lee knows everybody, Mike is Mike.
Speaker 6: Know he knows Mike, Mike. That's my boy. That's my brother.
Speaker 6: Like I brought him in, Like I brought him in.
Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, this is what you're doing. This is
Speaker 6: what is going to be. Like everywhere I go, he's
Speaker 6: with me. Everybody knows that's you know, like my face.
Speaker 6: You know he needs something, give it him. I just
Speaker 6: get that phone call, you know, because somebody used to
Speaker 6: do that for me.
Speaker 7: So now I'm his.
Speaker 6: You know this guy before it was somebody else for me,
Speaker 6: that was my guy.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: So that's how it trickles down. You know, you got
Speaker 6: to bring them in and you know again it's family.
Speaker 6: It's it's a family, family, conciliarity, round table.
Speaker 1: Gangster ship sometimes, you know, that's what it comes down to. No, no,
Speaker 1: because I know in twenty twenty five I got the whole.
Speaker 3: Right there, only.
Speaker 1: Twenty four well right there, but peace wise, I get
Speaker 1: watches to commemorate my times, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Uh, this was something big for me.
Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you, guys your story about this ship.
Speaker 1: He like it was my favorite cartoons.
Speaker 7: Wow, yeah for.
Speaker 3: Shure, but show but show up the microphone. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna show me that. You don't know what the
Speaker 3: fuck did do? Let me give me? Yeah, help you
Speaker 3: with all this?
Speaker 7: Yeah that he calls me.
Speaker 6: He's like, gee, I'm in the Lego movie this I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I put you on the stress for this, Bros. Like, hey,
Speaker 1: I went so hard for I'm telling.
Speaker 3: You you see your changing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you see your little change.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't have no idea since the grenades, Like
Speaker 1: how did you deal with bloods?
Speaker 3: Change? It was weird because listen to figure figures in there.
Speaker 7: You got the microphone right there.
Speaker 6: It has other pieces like the in the in the
Speaker 6: movie he has a spade bottle and a cup, so
Speaker 6: I have that too.
Speaker 7: It can finish.
Speaker 6: You can put the ace of Spade in here and
Speaker 6: then the cup in here. So I was if I
Speaker 6: had more time, I would make the arms come off,
Speaker 6: put different arms.
Speaker 7: It was just a whole intricate ship going on here.
Speaker 7: So I call him.
Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, here's I sent him all the legos.
Speaker 6: There's sixteen thousand pieces. I said, Bro, pick the ten
Speaker 6: you want. He said, for I'm like, we're gonna intricate
Speaker 6: into this chain. So I took this that's a unique piece,
Speaker 6: and I took the legos.
Speaker 7: And you can actually do one of these, you know
Speaker 7: you can?
Speaker 1: You can stack it?
Speaker 6: He got, he got twenty twenty five right now?
Speaker 7: No, he said it all.
Speaker 6: I'm who they gotta come real crazy correct with this one.
Speaker 7: So and then.
Speaker 1: He told me to call forrell And and to tell Lego.
Speaker 1: At first I said, no, for real, he might beat
Speaker 1: me to the point.
Speaker 6: Only reason I said that, the man. The only reason
Speaker 6: I said that because j Balvin crazy. Jay Balman has
Speaker 6: the astro Boy and I need that now is an auction.
Speaker 6: But somewhere was the Jupiter something. But he wasn't an
Speaker 6: astro boy the movie. No, So yeah, the reason the
Speaker 6: only reason I said let's do the NDA was because
Speaker 6: Valvin is so straight shooter.
Speaker 1: He wants permission of the artist for his presence artist.
Speaker 3: So that's your the they called him.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, hey, but I mean, we
Speaker 1: should do that around now. Like, but I got somebody
Speaker 1: like what I didn't want to tell buster nobody today.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not telling them.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's people.
Speaker 3: That's insane, bro, that's hard.
Speaker 4: First of all, the fact that you was in that movie,
Speaker 4: because I was in the theater and I texted you
Speaker 4: while I was in the theater seeing and and you
Speaker 4: got to understand of when we became to know Norwa
Speaker 4: was seeing them, was like, like you, you was a
Speaker 4: different guy then. And if you think of that, and
Speaker 4: not only that, your own experience in the movie theater
Speaker 4: changed your whole fucking life, your whole trajectory. And I'm
Speaker 4: sitting here with my son watching the Legs.
Speaker 3: Movie, keep going keeping right there. So you didn't know
Speaker 3: I was in the movie, or you knew I was
Speaker 3: in the movie. No, I knew you was in the movie.
Speaker 4: Once I got window what the movie was, like, how
Speaker 4: can Normy not be in it?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I think they started letting out the trailers, but
Speaker 4: then actually seeing it on the big screen and then
Speaker 4: the way that that for real and he's always been
Speaker 4: gracious and gave it up for you. What really gives
Speaker 4: you that lane of like yo, nor was the one
Speaker 4: enough he put them on and let me produce because
Speaker 4: he had he had production everything, but it was nobody
Speaker 4: trusted him.
Speaker 3: And it's really it's truly like how I said in the.
Speaker 1: Movie, said to me produce you like not let me
Speaker 1: make a beat for you? And I had and I'm
Speaker 1: a hot dude at the time. I got the number
Speaker 1: one record in New York, so I could have easily
Speaker 1: even like shut the funk up. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: I know I sounded like a genius now, but I
Speaker 1: was then because it happened. I looked at him and
Speaker 1: I was like, but Chaves there too, because I hate
Speaker 1: not just say that t was there too. I think
Speaker 1: they both diserbed the credit on this, and they were
Speaker 1: just looking at me. Although Chad didn't say much, but
Speaker 1: he was like he was he looked at me. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm mad that you can look at it and I can't.
Speaker 3: Y'all said, he says, we grow up.
Speaker 1: A Lego, but so so I tell you, yeah both
Speaker 1: the funny story for all never tells me I'm an
Speaker 1: Lego movie the whole time. By the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel bad because I was telling all, y'all, Yo, he
Speaker 1: didn't tell me he was in a Lego movie. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting next to Teddy Riley, that's my guy, and the
Speaker 1: premiere and Teddy Roley leans over to me and goes,
Speaker 1: did he.
Speaker 3: Tell you what was in this movie? I said, hell no.
Speaker 3: He said I feel good too.
Speaker 1: I said, he didn't tell you.
Speaker 3: He said no, I said, I feel good too.
Speaker 4: So he just had you, like if he was shooting
Speaker 4: the documentary, Yeah, and explain to me.
Speaker 1: You know what coached you through the For me personally,
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna sound crazy, but I'm glad that
Speaker 1: he ain't tell me because I would have tried to
Speaker 1: act like a Lego like I don't know how. I
Speaker 1: would have tried to be like cartoonish, like I would
Speaker 1: have tried to do my overdo my job as opposed
Speaker 1: to to this. So like I get again, he's that
Speaker 1: was an animeated Come on, bro, but you want not
Speaker 1: animate you got.
Speaker 7: Say lego, man, you.
Speaker 3: Know he's just a cartoon attention. It was just you
Speaker 3: just knew it was for me.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 6: This crazy guy calls me, but yo, I need this
Speaker 6: and what two weeks?
Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
Speaker 7: I had this ship ready. I had this ship ready
Speaker 7: before Christmas. He just let yo where you at?
Speaker 1: I went to Europe with Europe and here he wasn't
Speaker 1: he was about time?
Speaker 7: He was?
Speaker 1: He wasn't that always time? He was what?
Speaker 7: I took it home.
Speaker 1: I took it home my son just one and a half.
Speaker 7: He wanted. I sent him a picture. I'mself wearing the ship.
Speaker 1: This this is the killer part, the lego and then
Speaker 1: the lego could stick it on all this. If I
Speaker 1: really had.
Speaker 6: Some time, really, if I really have, I would where
Speaker 6: every part can come off and he can stack like
Speaker 6: actual leg I ain't give me time, but.
Speaker 3: I don't want every part.
Speaker 4: I think I think you are officially redeemed, But for
Speaker 4: the newport, I think we can.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you what.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: It was just too ignorant. Yeah, yeah, I was kind
Speaker 3: of do but it was but you know what it was.
Speaker 1: It was, I swear to god, it was just it
Speaker 1: was this old white I would have put a lighter
Speaker 1: in that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: That lived in my building at the time.
Speaker 1: And that's the whole point. I didn't realize how like
Speaker 1: you know, I can say how nignurish the newports was.
Speaker 1: And then so she looked at the chain and I
Speaker 1: didn't really look at her looking into the chain. I
Speaker 1: just opened it up and I pulled out a Newport
Speaker 1: and I could see her face like I was embarrassed
Speaker 1: at that moment, like wow, like like someone, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's not it's not that building.
Speaker 3: I lived in the whole other building at that time.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I remember I was working at Double
Speaker 4: Cell at the time, uh huh. And we used to
Speaker 4: have a column in the front of the or whoever
Speaker 4: had the craziest peace right, So you definitely you definitely
Speaker 4: aren one of those spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, the New twenty twenty five. I'm not going.
Speaker 1: I had to set it off, right, you got to
Speaker 1: do a photo shoot for that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's Banana's peace wise jewish but jewelry wise, right,
Speaker 6: Like yes, like diamond wise.
Speaker 7: Who got the Saudi royal family? But I just posted them.
Speaker 1: Like really, the Saudi Warrior family.
Speaker 3: How easy is to do business with them? They come
Speaker 3: all the way over here to work with you. That's crazy.
Speaker 7: I know them for a very long time. But I
Speaker 7: got three million dollars.
Speaker 3: Can We're not even allowed to see it posted.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to say what it's going who the family?
Speaker 7: It's just that, you know.
Speaker 1: All I said was, you know, twenty twenty five is nice.
Speaker 3: Let's they crown prints on it.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about these watches yeaes sir,
Speaker 1: now that I'm a part of the watch world. The
Speaker 1: watch world considered them bracelets. They considered them bracelets, right,
Speaker 1: they considerate jewelry pieces. We got we got the Prestine one,
Speaker 1: which I have one, you know, big gout the Presstine.
Speaker 1: We've got the Abvy and Co. And it's basically just
Speaker 1: a bus down. You can't really tell the time, there's
Speaker 1: no movements, there's no open back piece. What do you
Speaker 1: feel about these these these pieces? It's very popular in
Speaker 1: hip hop because it's shiny, and people who don't actually
Speaker 1: know watches.
Speaker 6: I made my own aunches as well, I'm making my
Speaker 6: own as well right now. But it's again like you said,
Speaker 6: it's for it's for status, right, Okay, But I think
Speaker 6: these days, people are you know, with the Internet and
Speaker 6: everything that's going on during COVID, people seeing what's going
Speaker 6: on with jewelry, watches, how everything's just skyrocketed through the roof.
Speaker 7: But diamond pieces.
Speaker 6: In my opinions, if you have extra funk around money,
Speaker 6: that's cool. But you know, if you have you money,
Speaker 6: all right, cool whatever, But you know, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: if you know, because because you're simple.
Speaker 1: Will watch, is you wanna protect you want yeah, you
Speaker 1: know rich by the way, yes, yes, yes, yes, one yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: Right there back in yeah, back in COVID days or
Speaker 6: you know, I forgot when that came out. I was
Speaker 6: like half a million dollar watch maybe more. The scarcity
Speaker 6: to see where was going with all this. Everybody that's
Speaker 6: doing their own thing, you know, I wish them all
Speaker 6: the best. Again, I know, I know everybody.
Speaker 7: I know, everybody's you know, doing their thing. God blessed.
Speaker 6: But again, uh, for me, for myself personally, if I'm investing,
Speaker 6: I'm investing in you know, I protect you know, you know,
Speaker 6: prestigious brand, you know, protect Richie Rolls. Understand. I'm not
Speaker 6: you know, even my own brand. Understand because at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, I know what's gonna end up happening.
Speaker 6: Mike Clentella is gonna come back and say, hey, Gabe,
Speaker 6: I want to you.
Speaker 3: Know, trade this in or I want to do this
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 7: I cannot say no, but you can.
Speaker 6: I say no because we have to say no because
Speaker 6: we wanted to circulate within the market.
Speaker 7: Right, just like role you can't go.
Speaker 1: Into fucking roll Legs back then say hey I want
Speaker 1: to trade this in. Now they could do that, us
Speaker 1: could trade and they do that no back from you. Really,
Speaker 1: they do the you have to get it from them.
Speaker 3: You have to get it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they do that now. They never did that before.
Speaker 6: And I believe it's because of guys like myself and
Speaker 6: the rest.
Speaker 7: Of the jewelers. We've did that and we listen.
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, these ads, these authorized dealers,
Speaker 6: they cannot live without us.
Speaker 1: They need us, right, And that's what I'm like, you said,
Speaker 1: need these journalists you know the gray market where the
Speaker 1: gray mark Okay, yes, absolutely, the gray market. They need
Speaker 1: us because we're the ones that set the tone and
Speaker 1: set the price for the secondary market. Is it true
Speaker 1: that Frank Mula tried to actually sue all of the
Speaker 1: jewelers and that's the reason why Frank Mulla's beastly.
Speaker 6: I heard that, but I also heard he went crazy
Speaker 6: and like.
Speaker 1: He didn't want y'all selling his watches the great market, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I never heard that.
Speaker 3: Okay, what is you hear?
Speaker 6: He's a bit I just heard, you know, from from
Speaker 6: the grape vines that you know, he just you know,
Speaker 6: lost it and uh, you know, just the brand again,
Speaker 6: we are the brand, you know, like I am my
Speaker 6: own brand in my in my in my my company.
Speaker 6: Everybody is their own like Jacob is his thing, you know,
Speaker 6: everybody does their own thing.
Speaker 7: They're the fates.
Speaker 6: I feel like I heard that, you know, he something happened,
Speaker 6: you understanding, there was personal stuff that he was dealing with,
Speaker 6: and after that it just went into toilet. I honestly
Speaker 6: think Frank Mules at that time were hot of ship dope,
Speaker 6: like they were of getting to where Richard Miller is
Speaker 6: today from you know, and I think I definitely don't
Speaker 6: major major discount obviously, you know, the discount is crazy
Speaker 6: forty fifty off whatever. But still I have a few
Speaker 6: in my mouth. I carry a few, I think honestly,
Speaker 6: Frank Muller was the first one who had that crazy
Speaker 6: looking shape, right that Richie has now. Right, they had
Speaker 6: that weird looking shape that they have now Richie has now.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you about the like the Frank
Speaker 1: Muler hip hop, when did rap raid off fuck up?
Speaker 3: That was a good pivot, that great, great pivot. Bro,
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice like that. Oh he's the Frank.
Speaker 7: I don't know about that. I'm going to leave you
Speaker 7: that what happened with that?
Speaker 5: Let's recap put out because I don't even I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know rants. And that's all I know about.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not even saying that because I seriously
Speaker 1: believe that it wouldn't have been a rant, or wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been this this negativity or this feeling had rap
Speaker 1: Radar stayed together, you know, and just kept putting our
Speaker 1: episodes so him.
Speaker 3: Beat out staying together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that when I'm staying not being together
Speaker 1: had left that hole in the game for us to
Speaker 1: keep going. For all artists, to keep having podcasts and
Speaker 1: things like that. So when do you think that rap
Speaker 1: radar went wrong? I know I said it funny, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but dog going.
Speaker 3: Shout to be that to be that.
Speaker 4: Rap Radar, I mean, what they did and what they
Speaker 4: built it was amazing. I mean, I mean maybe there's
Speaker 4: a space for it to come back. But the climate,
Speaker 4: you know, for one, I think the climate changed.
Speaker 3: Like like your.
Speaker 4: Question that you gotta wait, you like, how did it
Speaker 4: get to the point for for rapists to take over?
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying rap radar particularly get to that.
Speaker 3: Rap up question. Yeah, it's tough out here, bro, it
Speaker 3: is tough. And this is me not speaking on them,
Speaker 3: and we can get the specifics I want. Gods, none
Speaker 3: of your questions.
Speaker 4: But as somebody as a journalist, somebody who was training
Speaker 4: journalists who came up in journalism, it's tough, bro.
Speaker 3: It's tough to create.
Speaker 4: Content that is dependent on guests week after week. Y'all right,
Speaker 4: and and and but it's guests. But people show up
Speaker 4: for Norri because Norri is the one that we all know.
Speaker 4: People show e f N because EFN like the backbone
Speaker 4: and and and the journalistic integrity and the one that
Speaker 4: that you you're a wild boy, You're gonna keep shitting
Speaker 4: on train, you know what I'm saying, And the dynamic
Speaker 4: dynamic is amazing, right, it gets hard for journalists to
Speaker 4: like week after week do a show, especially after COVID
Speaker 4: a lot a lot of the look I'm gonna speak
Speaker 4: from my personal experience. I was at Look Man, I
Speaker 4: used to be at Double XL, I used to be
Speaker 4: at MTV. I used to be I'm still at Genius.
Speaker 4: I used to have a show at Genius. They cut
Speaker 4: the production budgets so people aren't investing in journalists the
Speaker 4: same way, you know, like like.
Speaker 3: Not to say y'all that it's easier because y'all work hard.
Speaker 4: But it's easier to be like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put my money on the Norri on.
Speaker 3: The cam and the Maze on.
Speaker 4: The Joe Budden because because but no disrespect. While we
Speaker 4: was out here making on bones, y'all was on one
Speaker 4: on six in park, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and that don't mean that because plenty of rappers come
Speaker 4: in and failed you how to put the work in
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 3: It just got hard and people.
Speaker 6: Said to my point right there exactly like my exactly
Speaker 6: what he just said. From my side, Okay, I put
Speaker 6: in all that work. We put in my generation you know,
Speaker 6: came up.
Speaker 7: We put it all at work.
Speaker 6: Understand what Dip said with Joel's with you, all them
Speaker 6: crazy ship that we started that trend with all that
Speaker 6: crazy jewelry that had on Cam, with the crazy world.
Speaker 7: I did that. Understand that all that the world.
Speaker 3: About.
Speaker 7: Okay, we we did all that first. We did that first.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like when he was on
Speaker 6: the source, wasn't xs L whatever, it was all his
Speaker 6: ship on the Little Light.
Speaker 7: Understand, the family did all that. Understand. So I feel
Speaker 7: like we did all that because we.
Speaker 6: Like you said, you understand, but you set a certain
Speaker 6: standard and from there your next generation. But we we
Speaker 6: set the groundwork, the foundation that these young guins can
Speaker 6: now you know, do what they're doing right now.
Speaker 7: But understand, Yeah, I got Instagram.
Speaker 6: You know, I think this ship in the Instagram, like
Speaker 6: I said in the beginning, nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's easier for the jewelers now because
Speaker 1: they have what the fucking DM and motherfucker.
Speaker 6: I mean your facing the club, I mean I mean
Speaker 6: your face yea for you I understood. I'm being I'm
Speaker 6: here run around in the city, but.
Speaker 4: You got you gotta play the game how the game
Speaker 4: is to be today, I'm hanging on them.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 7: I'm not hanging on them.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying we did all that, Like, I don't
Speaker 6: think my honest opinion understand, no disrespect, and none of
Speaker 6: these jewels out here, but if they were living in
Speaker 6: my time, but they will get eating up real quickly.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's the same with hip hop, same.
Speaker 3: Thing with hip hop. But to me, it's about how
Speaker 3: do you adjust?
Speaker 4: Like for me, I I was like, oh wow, I
Speaker 4: don't have my show on Genius anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't have my show on Amazon anymore. Cool. None
Speaker 3: of these corporations, none of these.
Speaker 4: Companies is going to tell me when I can go
Speaker 4: on the air or when I can't.
Speaker 3: So I started, I think it's it's just me. It's
Speaker 3: not even depending on the guests.
Speaker 4: It's just whatever I want to talk about, whatever I
Speaker 4: want to get my opinion about. But people who come
Speaker 4: to my ship know that they're going to get somebody
Speaker 4: who's not like sensationalized. I broke down the whole Drake
Speaker 4: and Kendrick Battle and it's necessary what you do.
Speaker 3: You don't have bias.
Speaker 4: But it's like, man, like, somebody got to call it straight,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, somebody got to.
Speaker 3: Call this shit straight, so fuck it. That's my lane.
Speaker 4: But it's like, you can't complain about the playing field
Speaker 4: because the game is the game and.
Speaker 5: It's not exclusive. It's not exclusive to hip hop. This
Speaker 5: is indicative of what's happening in media, and.
Speaker 3: That's in journalism.
Speaker 6: That's what That's what I hate about my industry is
Speaker 6: they're always beating about clientele. Somebody comes to somebody, take
Speaker 6: somebody's client, bro, fucking name is not written on his forehead.
Speaker 7: That's you know, is James client only?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 6: If somebody's trying to holler at him, and you know
Speaker 6: they're trying to work some cool man, you understand.
Speaker 7: But in this industry of mind is so cutthroat, is
Speaker 7: worse than game.
Speaker 1: I be seeing y'all fake beefing, but then y'all all
Speaker 1: be at the same boss of us found together. I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's the thing.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 6: We we have a respect for each other at the
Speaker 6: end of the day, but there's a I don't know,
Speaker 6: there's no beef. I don't think there's a hatred because
Speaker 6: that's a nasty word use. I think there's just competition,
Speaker 6: and I love competition.
Speaker 7: But definitely.
Speaker 3: Listening to hater straight up or just straight up? Yeah,
Speaker 3: is this the same to be a hater to just
Speaker 3: can't I told you I wasn't gonna die. Not He's
Speaker 3: just set me up, but we're not going to die.
Speaker 3: Questions like he's in a tough position man.
Speaker 1: Because it's like he can't hide it at this point.
Speaker 1: Like I believe he's been a hater like like in
Speaker 1: in a way because he thought he was the best.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's the best, and in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: He is right. You said I was the greatest one,
Speaker 3: you introduced me. Now you flip flopping what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: get him some more. Got a problem?
Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you from your perspective,
Speaker 1: from what you see, what you see, and what you
Speaker 1: dealt with on your own, you believe Elliot Wilson's a
Speaker 1: hater straight up.
Speaker 3: I think he got hate in his blood. I mean
Speaker 3: Wilson came from shocking me about him. Yeah, but but
Speaker 3: I think it comes from his competitive nature. I think.
Speaker 4: I think it's him wanting to be the best at
Speaker 4: at at every single moment. And I'm not so ain't
Speaker 4: nothing that I haven't sold him personally. I think at
Speaker 4: times he'll step on other people's moments, like sometimes it's
Speaker 4: just not your it's not your day, it's not your week,
Speaker 4: it's not your month, And he'll step on other people's moments.
Speaker 4: But that's his competitive drive, like he don't give a
Speaker 4: fuck about nothing but this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it was competitive when he was winning. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem competitive.
Speaker 3: When you lose. It when you're losing and you hate it.
Speaker 3: But is he really losing?
Speaker 1: I mean not losing. You're just not out there. You're
Speaker 1: not out there. I mean, I'm about he's gone.
Speaker 4: He has the bigger picture shout the DJ head Jeremy Hack,
Speaker 4: so he's out there every week.
Speaker 3: It's just he's not getting the No I see it.
Speaker 3: I got TV. It's not on TV, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Instagram is TV. I don't see it on
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 4: He's just not getting I don't think artists are doing
Speaker 4: interviews anyway. I'm saying, like our own ship and and
Speaker 4: and it's so like, yes, here's the thing even outside
Speaker 4: of laugh well, here's the thing that that that I
Speaker 4: don't know that people maybe he doesn't understand or maybe
Speaker 4: just hasn't articulated in that way. There are a few
Speaker 4: of us who are fans of good journalism, right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's niche.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Everybody who bought the source double XL Vibe back in
Speaker 4: the day, it wasn't because they was fans of journalism.
Speaker 4: It was because they favorite rapper was on the cover.
Speaker 3: It just so happened. You got good articles, you got
Speaker 3: good information, you got good whatever.
Speaker 1: Cars right, He's right righting for them back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so but that's where everybody went. If you
Speaker 4: wanted to see your favorite rapper, you went to double
Speaker 4: XL Vibe Source or you turn on Rap.
Speaker 3: City, but a few places. But could it be because
Speaker 3: we just took it for granted? It was always there.
Speaker 3: Journalism was there. Now it's not there. So the generation
Speaker 3: I doesn't even know what it was. But what I'm
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is YouTube is very important.
Speaker 4: And you you you may be different because it's niche,
Speaker 4: But the millions of people every month that was mining
Speaker 4: that magazine. Think of a fuck about good journalism. It
Speaker 4: was because fifty was on the coming fifty my favorite
Speaker 4: rout That's what, so they had the attention.
Speaker 6: Magazines are roused on that pace because for that reason
Speaker 6: I advertised what.
Speaker 4: You advatise there now because because they don't have the
Speaker 4: market ship, they don't have the large audience.
Speaker 3: You know who has that.
Speaker 1: Audience right yea streamers.
Speaker 4: So when they see the media, Drake go to Aiden
Speaker 4: ross or or Nikki go to Consannat.
Speaker 3: And there's no shade.
Speaker 4: The constanat is not because they're going there for a
Speaker 4: good interview.
Speaker 3: It's not because they're going there to have fun.
Speaker 4: But it's because they have the most I have the audience,
Speaker 4: and I want to get my message across. I'm going
Speaker 4: to the biggest audience. You know what, I want to
Speaker 4: give a fuck about journalism. It was a small it's niche.
Speaker 1: You know what I call it now media attainment like
Speaker 1: it's media but entertainment, Like it's more entertaining than like
Speaker 1: having to deliver like a class.
Speaker 3: Journalism, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that still exists, and that should that that should
Speaker 1: still be a world for that.
Speaker 3: I think it's dangerous not to have real journeysm But
Speaker 3: but like like you were saying, and I agree, but
Speaker 3: this is a problem bigger than hip hop. Look look
Speaker 3: at what's going on. And first of all, the political
Speaker 3: arena is way worse. Look if you look what Elon
Speaker 3: is saying on every day see that. Look, you know
Speaker 3: you're just turning waiting on fast forward the time.
Speaker 4: But if you look at what Elon is talking about,
Speaker 4: Elon is telling yo, Elon is saying every day on Twitter,
Speaker 4: there's no more media. You guys are the media. They're
Speaker 4: dismantling media. They're trying to discredit CNN, They're trying to
Speaker 4: discredit all this legacy media and and and put it
Speaker 4: in the hands of the people. And while I believe
Speaker 4: in democracy, do you see the crazy ship that's going
Speaker 4: on on Twitter? You see the fucking idiots on Twitter ship?
Speaker 4: Yeah you social media? Yeah, but it's fucking dumb. But
Speaker 4: media dismantled itself too, like.
Speaker 3: Giving into greed is advertisers. It became a statement.
Speaker 6: I was watching something and they just said that I'm
Speaker 6: not into this political stuff. But I just saw that
Speaker 6: where Zuckerberg just put yeah, what's his name, Dan know White?
Speaker 3: You know white as on board of Mecada. I don't
Speaker 3: know why.
Speaker 6: You know why because he wants to get into good
Speaker 6: graces with who mister Trump. He is because because like
Speaker 6: this and to get to Trump, you gotta get you.
Speaker 6: I have to be cool with Elon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to break up Facebook. They want to
Speaker 3: break it up.
Speaker 6: So now they have all these lawsuits as you know,
Speaker 6: whatever I do.
Speaker 3: That's what TikTok.
Speaker 4: Right, No, no, no, no, But the whole thing about TikTok
Speaker 4: is now no.
Speaker 3: But they're trying to buy it, to sell it.
Speaker 7: They want to buy it.
Speaker 3: But they got in Trump's good favor. Now he's coming
Speaker 3: back to it.
Speaker 4: The guy, I forget his name, I know he's out
Speaker 4: there trying to buy. The guy from Shark, Kevin O'Leary, Okay, Kevin,
Speaker 4: he's trying to buy it by TikTok. He's trying to
Speaker 4: buy TikTok because they want it.
Speaker 6: They want the servers could be the United States. The
Speaker 6: servers are not here because that's what the fun is
Speaker 6: going on. But my daughters are sitting there. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: get the fuck off the phones. I literally have to
Speaker 6: take these ships and just fucking.
Speaker 3: Even bigger than that.
Speaker 4: If six Hot gets sold to o'liary and and Dana
Speaker 4: White on the board face and oli campaign right, Larry
Speaker 4: Dane's trying to call they're trying to call campaign on
Speaker 4: South African but he running ship right. So now the Trump,
Speaker 4: the Republicans and and basically the Trump regime imagine control.
Speaker 4: Trump's whole thing has been like, fuck, media, watch what
Speaker 4: I do to y'all.
Speaker 3: CNN did me wrong? This one didn't watch what I
Speaker 3: do to y'all.
Speaker 4: And now he send potentially he controls through elon Twitter
Speaker 4: or ax or whatever Instagram, through through Zuckerberg and Dana
Speaker 4: White and and O'Leary and and sixshot. What does that
Speaker 4: look like? Yeah, so it's bigger than I just think.
Speaker 6: They just want everybody to have a fair, you know,
Speaker 6: fair fair chance to speak their mind, to speak their truth.
Speaker 6: You know, because even even Zuckerberg admitted twenty sixteen he
Speaker 6: fucking blacklisted and didn't allow any of Trump's stuff to
Speaker 6: go on that's platform.
Speaker 7: He said it, He literally said it. That's why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the media did it to themselves. And now it's it's.
Speaker 1: Because has been honest, as they called it meta, I
Speaker 1: don't know, they ain't been the same they ain't been
Speaker 1: the same since the name change.
Speaker 3: I mean they're doing things on Instagram now where they
Speaker 3: they on Instagram right? Meta?
Speaker 4: Yeah, AI accounts like they look like real people. They
Speaker 4: put up AI pitches, they like, like, why.
Speaker 3: Do we need that?
Speaker 4: How many millions of people on Instagram don't I don't
Speaker 4: need to interact with I want more human interaction. I
Speaker 4: don't need AI friends, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like it just kind of questions like what and AI
Speaker 4: that monetizes itself they also want. Nigga said, Mega you
Speaker 4: the only one Mega.
Speaker 1: Mega.
Speaker 4: But so it's way bigger than hip hop when you
Speaker 4: talk about what's going on in the media, is going
Speaker 4: on in media across the board, and and we're gonna
Speaker 4: have to learn learn with that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: For me, I'm gonna take the slow road. I did
Speaker 4: my YouTube channel, man, I do my videos. I try
Speaker 4: to respond to every single comment, as long as it's
Speaker 4: not like some supertrol ship, Like I'm trying to build
Speaker 4: community of real people. And you know, I might not
Speaker 4: have the viewership of a drink chance what you know
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I just started my shit.
Speaker 4: It wasn't even for a four year, I got two
Speaker 4: point two million views. I've seen it eight months, and
Speaker 4: I respond to every fucking comment, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and and reach out to every person.
Speaker 3: Like that's the way I'm gonna have to build it.
Speaker 1: Like, and what you get more act you're on your
Speaker 1: Instagram or your YouTube YouTube YouTube on Instagram?
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean you're using your Instagram to drive to YouTube. Yeah,
Speaker 3: focus to the longer version is on the YouTube.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I actually do is probably a dumb way
Speaker 4: to do it. I don't want my Instagram audience to
Speaker 4: feel like they're getting clips from YouTube.
Speaker 3: I gotta do a competitive advantage.
Speaker 4: So I shoot a long form thing of me talking
Speaker 4: on YouTube, and I'll shoot a separate video like a
Speaker 4: Instagram where I just like trunk added, let me just
Speaker 4: give you the ninety second version of what I said.
Speaker 4: Let's do it the court at ten more work. It's
Speaker 4: definitely more work. And I'm editing to myself. I'm doing
Speaker 4: all this myself. It's definitely more work, but I'm like,
Speaker 4: I just want I want to feel present. My competitive
Speaker 4: advantage is like, Yo, you're going to feel like you're
Speaker 4: talking to me. You're gonna feel like like when you
Speaker 4: get in an opinion from me, whether you agree or disagree,
Speaker 4: you know that it's the real me.
Speaker 3: It's reliable what I'm saying, it's reliable. And also you're
Speaker 3: doing the comic book stuff to you that's just out
Speaker 3: of love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Right now?
Speaker 1: What was the name of the company before? Gabel?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Okay, now it's Nova. What's going on?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Win your separate ways separate Okay, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 3: Nothing. Yeah, you ain't got.
Speaker 1: Yeah this.
Speaker 3: Track?
Speaker 7: You know what what?
Speaker 6: Never?
Speaker 7: It's like you and it's like you and.
Speaker 1: Would about but you could explain without happened.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like he said, two different you know,
Speaker 6: and you know, two different opinions on everything. I'm young
Speaker 6: and you know the older you know, older, you know,
Speaker 6: whole older person. You know. I just I think I
Speaker 6: feel like I'm just getting in my prime. I feel
Speaker 6: like just getting it. You know, I was always away boomer,
Speaker 6: you know, growing up as a kid. You know, I
Speaker 6: feel like I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 7: Ready to function up right now. I feel it, you know.
Speaker 3: So what's the plans with Nova?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 7: Miami? Okay?
Speaker 6: Stores coming? Okay, a couple of months oh yeah here. Yeah,
Speaker 6: just a lot of a lot of things happen. I
Speaker 6: can't really you know, Okay, there's a lot of good
Speaker 6: a lot of good stuff happening.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, nice.
Speaker 4: And what we got going next for me is it
Speaker 4: is just continuing to build this YouTube that I got
Speaker 4: rob marking on YouTube. I'm gonna start adding interviews in
Speaker 4: the mix, but again I'm not it's not gonna be
Speaker 4: any interview based. Yeah, I mean, it's not interviews based.
Speaker 4: It's like special interviews. Like it's going like a barble
Speaker 4: water special light.
Speaker 1: Just keep it on against whatever you feel for that week,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's what.
Speaker 4: It's just what I think, whatever I feel like doing.
Speaker 4: And then you know, music still I'm putting out just
Speaker 4: put out a project at the end of December called
Speaker 4: will Never be This Young Again and won't independently that's
Speaker 4: my thing.
Speaker 3: To me, it was a universal truth.
Speaker 4: It was like because I put it out on my
Speaker 4: birthday December thirty, and I'm like, man, if you eight
Speaker 4: or if you eighty, but you will never be this
Speaker 4: young again. So it's just a reminder that like, live
Speaker 4: life to the fullest. And I really came up with
Speaker 4: that concept after we lost Hovan Hillton, my brother. Man,
Speaker 4: like that was just sudden. Nobody seen that coming. It
Speaker 4: was like one minute he was here, the next minute
Speaker 4: he wasn't here, and he was a managed you right, yeah,
Speaker 4: he started He started me off, man like, I didn't
Speaker 4: think I could do it. I didn't think people was
Speaker 4: going to accept me coming from journalism and then doing
Speaker 4: the raps, you know. And I was on the Breakfast
Speaker 4: Club one time and Charlamagne kind of did me to
Speaker 4: kick a freestyle and I did it and they.
Speaker 3: Was like, no, that shit was kind of hot, like
Speaker 3: you be rapping for real.
Speaker 4: And so when I came out the interview, Havaine was like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know, we could put a record out right, And
Speaker 4: then he hooked me up with Gayzi and Nima. We
Speaker 4: put out my first project, Right to Dream, And so
Speaker 4: Havan was the one that showed me it was possible
Speaker 4: because I was like, man, like, they're not gonna sign,
Speaker 4: They're gonna advance me and they gonna sign.
Speaker 3: I don't even got a record.
Speaker 4: And he was like watch this and Havain put it together,
Speaker 4: God bless him, and so he showed me it was real,
Speaker 4: and you know, so So when when he was gone,
Speaker 4: I kind of like, you know, it hit me for
Speaker 4: a second, but it was like, man, would never be
Speaker 4: this young man. You gotta you gotta live each day
Speaker 4: like it's you gotta do everything that you ever wanted
Speaker 4: to do. He was an amazing dude.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: And you can't find nobody to say nothing crazy.
Speaker 3: Even even the people who who.
Speaker 4: Who may talk crazy about him when when he was here,
Speaker 4: that just stopped when he was because it was sobering
Speaker 4: because people saw what was real. Nah, you know what
Speaker 4: I was tripping. If you had a problem with Havain,
Speaker 4: you were the problem.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Giving people they flowers, We wanted to give y'all both
Speaker 1: flowers something positive.
Speaker 3: You can drink them. I don't watch this show.
Speaker 4: I watched so many episodes of Drink Champs to seeing
Speaker 4: everybody get their flowers.
Speaker 3: Man, this is crazy. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: So it's Jacob to Judah, the greatest hip hop Juwelah
Speaker 1: that came from hip hop. Build his name from hip
Speaker 1: hop up all time as of now.
Speaker 3: No, he's not ain't still gold doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: It all started with Tito.
Speaker 3: Tito. Every time to see you think I said they
Speaker 3: had colic of jewelry.
Speaker 1: No Tito tricks, come on, said nobody.
Speaker 7: I'm with you, don't.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jacob, but he had a long guess he was like,
Speaker 1: that's like comparing Big to Jay, Right, we'll all due
Speaker 1: expect the big.
Speaker 3: You can't because they just had a long career because
Speaker 3: they kept going.
Speaker 1: Now, biggest impact, you could argue bigs impact, but all reality,
Speaker 1: BIG's not here, but Big was. I'm trying to say, Jacob,
Speaker 1: but you're talking about Tito.
Speaker 3: Tito's not here.
Speaker 1: He's the biggie kind of Jewry and Jacob definitely, And.
Speaker 3: Jacob was like, one's the pioneer and once and.
Speaker 1: He's still Jacob Jacob.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, you guys put them on right one
Speaker 6: hundred million percent.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I don't know if he feels this way, but I
Speaker 6: don't know what. This is my opinion, and I believe
Speaker 6: this is everyone's opinion. If it wasn't for hip hop,
Speaker 6: but he wouldn't be where he is today.
Speaker 1: Absolutely hip hop count He can't socker. Now, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Ferrari's I.
Speaker 4: Got I got a question. You just kind of spat
Speaker 4: something in my mind. If I may, please please come
Speaker 4: on you hear ask questions, but you just said, like,
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for hip hop, you know, of course
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here either, right, That's what that's my
Speaker 4: bigger question about here. What what did hip hop do
Speaker 4: for just the Drury game? I mean, obviously Drury is
Speaker 4: Drury King's queen. Like it's always a big market in
Speaker 4: a huge market. But it wasn't good cost do for
Speaker 4: the jewelers and the jewelry game and andes.
Speaker 7: Uh it did a lot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: I love the hip hop game.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's a nasty game, you know, as far as uh,
Speaker 6: you know, people owe you money and this and that,
Speaker 6: all the bullshit the politics. But at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, if it wasn't for hip hop, if it
Speaker 6: wasn't for hip hop, if it wasn't for.
Speaker 7: This, these jewelers where we meet, all these.
Speaker 6: Other guys, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing Instagram
Speaker 6: flashing and their cribs and have they better give up hop,
Speaker 6: they better give respect, they give their flowers themselves to
Speaker 6: hip Hoperstand when I hear they say, oh, they didn't
Speaker 6: do nothing for me, I did it myself.
Speaker 7: The fuck it.
Speaker 6: You didn't do nothing like who like they calling you hey,
Speaker 6: like you call me, do this for me?
Speaker 7: You know, they calling you know, do this this for me?
Speaker 6: Because at the end of the day, back in you
Speaker 6: know those days, the kings, the queens, how they wear
Speaker 6: their wealth.
Speaker 3: They wear their wealth jewelry.
Speaker 7: That's how they were their wealth.
Speaker 6: So if it wasn't for hip hop, I give my
Speaker 6: take my hat off for hip hop, because I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be where I am today.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't. I wouldn't because from the hip hop. You
Speaker 6: gotta understand, then it goes to the ballplayers. From the
Speaker 6: ball players, then it goes to then it goes to
Speaker 6: the corporate. Then he goes here, then it goes there,
Speaker 6: then it goes there, it goes on and on.
Speaker 7: But where the fuck it started from.
Speaker 6: You started from over there, So don't forget about over
Speaker 6: here over there. And that's one thing about Joe Crack,
Speaker 6: what he did, what he said to me ninety years ago,
Speaker 6: when I was twenty years old, when I got him,
Speaker 6: when I when he heard about me, and when I
Speaker 6: met him at Angie's video shoot.
Speaker 7: And I still have a picture.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'll send it to you after we get done here
Speaker 6: while I'm holding up the ts that I made for him.
Speaker 6: Young motherfucking Gabe, Skinny is pup pick and he's you know,
Speaker 6: Joe crack not like you know, he lost all away.
Speaker 6: He's just Joe now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now it's uh. He told me one thing.
Speaker 6: We were at Jimmy's Uptown, yeah, on fifty seventh Street,
Speaker 6: and he's like, he's sitting down at the long you know, remember.
Speaker 3: That long term.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's sitting he was sitting down and he's sitting here.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting here and say less now yeah, and he's saying,
Speaker 6: he's telling me, yo, g let me tell you something.
Speaker 6: He's like, one thing I know about you. If I'm
Speaker 6: with you, I'm not with you. You're gonna make it.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 6: I was twenty year old, was a fucking retard, you know,
Speaker 6: unders saying I was just getting my feet. Well, I
Speaker 6: didn't understand what I was doing, but I don't know
Speaker 6: the graces of God, you know that helped.
Speaker 7: Me navigate through everything. It was fucking wolves in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing what I was here at that time, at
Speaker 1: that time, right, I would have gotten eating up real quick,
Speaker 1: you know, But I had certain people around me that
Speaker 1: you know, just kept everybody at day yo.
Speaker 7: But the young boy heard him do his thing, and
Speaker 7: I was gunning me, and you know.
Speaker 1: Jacob okay wa ain't finished finish? Is Jacob the greatest
Speaker 1: Juli I wanted to do?
Speaker 3: He said?
Speaker 1: He said, I said, I definite defindited that my jewlry
Speaker 1: the greatest hip hop jeweler.
Speaker 3: Yes, hip hop jeweler. Say your standing on it.
Speaker 6: If you just said right on it didn't listen to
Speaker 6: I cannot say just yes because you're taking the jewels,
Speaker 6: not doing that.
Speaker 7: He's doing his thing with the watchers.
Speaker 1: Saying, it's still technically making jury's making no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's still making.
Speaker 3: Hat watch because let the jewelers say that.
Speaker 1: Please, what are you doing? Okay, how much jewelry do
Speaker 1: you have?
Speaker 6: Jewelry metals, metal, watches, precious metal, it's made with precious metal.
Speaker 1: But there's a movement, yes, yes, there's a name. Yes,
Speaker 1: so these are separate. But he's still doing jewelry on
Speaker 1: the second. Okay, cool, I love it.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 1: You know what I meant?
Speaker 6: Every time all my interviews back then, I usually say yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: but now I'm all up a second, bro, okay, like, yes,
Speaker 6: he's doing this thing with his watchers. Not he's saying
Speaker 6: anything about that, you understand, Like, yeah, we all mimicked
Speaker 6: or tried to follow that lane, you know, because he
Speaker 6: was him right me right then it was a couple
Speaker 6: of other people are all the other and I was
Speaker 6: like fucking twenty million people trying to do it. He's
Speaker 6: he's done thirty years ago, right, so I can speak
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 7: Because I used to be literally of course the street
Speaker 7: from him.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so jewelry wise back then, back then, yes,
Speaker 6: he was doing his thing one hundred.
Speaker 1: Percent, did he didn't he one hundred percent make the
Speaker 1: Jesus peace like that was him, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: The first person to make the Jesus piece.
Speaker 7: Yes, the first person to.
Speaker 3: That couldn't have been him.
Speaker 7: It was not him.
Speaker 1: It was big big It was big for him to
Speaker 1: make right, It was big. It was a big big
Speaker 1: who got him to make it. It was big biggers
Speaker 1: doing to put on with the Cuban. Yeah, but yes
Speaker 1: they could know.
Speaker 6: It's not like he like, there's the one who he
Speaker 6: didn't invent it invented it was big idea.
Speaker 3: It was correct.
Speaker 1: No, that was some hip hop ship.
Speaker 3: That I had hit New Ports, but I hit the
Speaker 3: first jury who put the diamonds in it.
Speaker 7: Okay, it was I would see it was.
Speaker 3: It was even gun boxing being a mustache. It was big.
Speaker 7: It's a big idea. Jacob just put it together. Okay.
Speaker 7: It's like architect. Okay, architect. You need an architect to
Speaker 7: build a house. You need constructions stuff like if.
Speaker 1: You start building other lego pieces. I built this ship,
Speaker 1: that's right, Okay. I like the staff. I like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm the architect. I'm the architect. But I tell my
Speaker 1: gods Google sent it.
Speaker 3: You know Jesus. I'm gonna argue now.
Speaker 6: Now my Jesus pieces, my Jesus pieces that I created
Speaker 6: back in twenty fourteen with Travis and Travis back then
Speaker 6: collab what he was going to do something with Jacob.
Speaker 7: He told me. I was like, no, we're going to
Speaker 7: do our own thing. I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't with the design that ship was crazy. I
Speaker 6: patented that motherfuck a different design of Jesus. You can
Speaker 6: p these designs.
Speaker 7: I patent my I patented my Jesus.
Speaker 6: Where some some of the you know, clown ass Jews
Speaker 6: just copied the ship.
Speaker 7: They got they got sued. They definitely got sued. Absolutely,
Speaker 7: So they have to, you know, cease and.
Speaker 6: Desist real quick because at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: that's what I've learned.
Speaker 7: I've learned that if I make something I have to be.
Speaker 3: For life.
Speaker 7: I can't.
Speaker 6: So I took the design of my crown. It's called
Speaker 6: the crown, It's called crown the King. That's the name
Speaker 6: of my Jesus design. So it's the halo is my
Speaker 6: whole concept, and a certain way the hair is growing
Speaker 6: on the on the Jesus.
Speaker 7: That's what made the patent and the trademark like.
Speaker 6: Feasible went through. It went through because of that reason.
Speaker 6: But now that was that was her uniqueness of it.
Speaker 6: I can't just take a Jesus head and say, okay,
Speaker 6: I want to do this.
Speaker 7: No, what is the unique part of it?
Speaker 6: I might was the crown that it was very unique.
Speaker 6: Now everybody trying to make a little bit small, a
Speaker 6: little bit bigger. Now, bro, it's not happening. Because I
Speaker 6: went from zero to one hundred.
Speaker 3: I got patent on all sizes from.
Speaker 7: That design, just letting it out.
Speaker 6: There for all the Jewish ranks. Don't you know, get yourself,
Speaker 6: you know in the lawsuits.
Speaker 1: This famous uh clip on the internet with Dame Dash
Speaker 1: walks into that.
Speaker 7: Was my family, my cousins.
Speaker 6: You see me, my cousin Ivy, my cousin Joe, my
Speaker 6: cousin Izzy.
Speaker 3: Here's an Ivy killer cam.
Speaker 7: You know, he wasn't really fucking with those guys over there.
Speaker 3: He's working with us, because all right, they're very good.
Speaker 3: Big Joe, you know, Big Joe.
Speaker 6: Big Joe was like bringing bringing him to us, you
Speaker 6: know at that point, you know, to our family at
Speaker 6: that time.
Speaker 7: And and he was like, yo, just make this ship
Speaker 7: for me.
Speaker 6: And my cousin Ivy was like, yo, you're sure, because
Speaker 6: I don't know if I could do this that ship.
Speaker 7: Is that guy over there? Say, now, bro, you do it?
Speaker 7: I want you should have done with you?
Speaker 1: Who does the original rocks Jacob?
Speaker 7: Yes, okay, let him do it. So then all right,
Speaker 7: so then we did it.
Speaker 6: You know, no, no, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know you work, so I haven't seen that man,
Speaker 3: know your work.
Speaker 7: The Dame comes up in there and just with his
Speaker 7: craziness and you know what it does.
Speaker 6: But I feel like, like you said earlier before, like
Speaker 6: you and Pharrell and you were at the hottest at
Speaker 6: your you know, you were, you were the guy. And
Speaker 6: I feel like, because you know, I'm very I'm in
Speaker 6: a different journeys in my life right now.
Speaker 7: I'm more spiritual, you know.
Speaker 6: I'm because I'm Jewish, you know, come wasn't more much
Speaker 6: more mature and more you know, into studying, you know, reading.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, it's you or where you are today
Speaker 6: is because of how you helped others, right, And I
Speaker 6: believe God, you know, same with Pecks.
Speaker 7: He bring me those earrings back look.
Speaker 6: Where he's at, Like God, favor for favor, fie for
Speaker 6: an eye.
Speaker 1: You do good, you get good, you do good, you
Speaker 1: get you your dirty motherfucker. You're gonna get dirty motherfucker
Speaker 1: to understand.
Speaker 6: So I honestly feel like like you said earlier with
Speaker 6: you and uh and the and the Neptunes.
Speaker 1: You know, but is that a sacred between Julus, Like
Speaker 1: let's talk about y'all side of it, just y'all making
Speaker 1: it was was y'a out of line for that because
Speaker 1: y'all know, like it's like, all right, cool, this was
Speaker 1: a line to Jacob. Let's suppose I supposed to us right,
Speaker 1: we made the drink chance piece right, And I suppose
Speaker 1: everybody in the cool got drink chance pieces and then
Speaker 1: it started to catch on another Jewela does a drink
Speaker 1: champ piece.
Speaker 3: Is that a violation in between Julius.
Speaker 7: Between you and your crew, that's your problem?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I'm just saying, hold on you.
Speaker 1: I don't think you understand I'm saying. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: we all got the drink chance pieces right where we
Speaker 1: got them from you, and then another jeweler starts making
Speaker 1: it for for people that's.
Speaker 3: Not in our crew. Is that a violation amongst.
Speaker 6: Jelas he just starts making them for no reason from
Speaker 6: your crew, weren't there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the actual publican like put it like this.
Speaker 1: At first, Wu Tang was the logo was so small.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had one Judlah that only made the
Speaker 1: Wu Tang, But then it got too big, like you know,
Speaker 1: and other Julius started making that's already.
Speaker 7: That's a that's a that's a flag. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 7: copyright and that's.
Speaker 6: And that's the jeweler just trying to get some credibility
Speaker 6: for what you know they're doing.
Speaker 7: But again, if.
Speaker 3: From jeweler to jeweler, is that a violation.
Speaker 6: If nobody came to the jeweler, if nobody came to
Speaker 6: the guy and said, you'll make this for me out
Speaker 6: of your crew, right.
Speaker 7: Then he's violation. He's in violation coming out of nowhere
Speaker 7: and gas.
Speaker 6: But if somebody came to him him from your crew,
Speaker 6: but from Jay's crew, from Dame's crew, and said, yo,
Speaker 6: make the ship o the jewelus, that's not all farm.
Speaker 7: That's your fucking problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know your crew.
Speaker 7: You're dealing with the ship.
Speaker 3: I'm a Julius. We tell Son the all the time.
Speaker 3: Stop doing that.
Speaker 6: That's what that's the misconception that everybody gets like we
Speaker 6: do the ship, like we don't do this just because
Speaker 6: we want to do it. Some jewelers are dirty and
Speaker 6: just just do the ship. That's foul, that's crazy. But
Speaker 6: we don't know what goes on in their head. Listen,
Speaker 6: it's free world. It's a free markets capitalism.
Speaker 7: Love it. Do your thing.
Speaker 1: Because my my first piece that I was gonna do
Speaker 1: before this this was I was very very close to
Speaker 1: the asking was a shot glass that I could take
Speaker 1: off the chaining.
Speaker 3: You know what I would have talked to that would
Speaker 3: have been exactly that was what I said. That would
Speaker 3: have been like when you go with the new.
Speaker 8: Port, but that old white lady in your buildings looked
Speaker 8: at you, she would have been of course he did
Speaker 8: my seconds out of the The second idea was trying.
Speaker 3: To get me drunk.
Speaker 7: Make it because you're trying to get me drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is make a clear grenade. Is a clear
Speaker 1: grenade drinking it. This is another idea.
Speaker 3: Was to make a clear grenade a clear guy.
Speaker 7: I have the videos of it, but in order to get.
Speaker 1: Green bud in it. And then I was like, did
Speaker 1: that's that's almost better? Yeah, it won't be different.
Speaker 4: Old fan of weed and people don't get the jewelry.
Speaker 4: But that had been the case that it came into.
Speaker 4: Hold on, I might have to cut this out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah you go.
Speaker 1: Snood Dog makes own jewel you've seen that taste like
Speaker 1: little Guys.
Speaker 6: Had a football player come into the office last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he comes to me.
Speaker 6: He's very known football player. We're not going to mention me.
Speaker 6: He said, Yo, gee, I've been looking for.
Speaker 7: You, bob By. Somebody told me what you were Tonio Brow.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just funing. I'm absolutely no.
Speaker 7: My boy, I've done a lot of things for him
Speaker 7: back in the days. Whatever.
Speaker 6: Bro, He's like, yo, I wanted to get a custom piece.
Speaker 7: Mate.
Speaker 6: I'm like looking at him and listen, I'm not these
Speaker 6: kind of jewelers.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, listen.
Speaker 6: We make good money on custom stuff certain times depending
Speaker 6: on you know this custom. Ain'tybody else wearing the ship
Speaker 6: but you. I'm I'm like, bro, why you want to
Speaker 6: do this? You're not young anymore. I'm hitting him with
Speaker 6: the truth because that's how I am.
Speaker 7: I just a good heart.
Speaker 3: I got to do that.
Speaker 7: Say bro, just stick with the watches and stop with this.
Speaker 6: You're not twenty two years old, twenty three years old,
Speaker 6: twenty four year old where you're gonna have four five contracts,
Speaker 6: three contracts, but you're good for one more maybe.
Speaker 3: Right, So stop there. You're a financial advisor as well, yes,
Speaker 3: because you just solved it.
Speaker 7: To him and I'm not gonna do that, right, I'm not.
Speaker 7: I'm not.
Speaker 3: But you didn't give know of this speech though, oh
Speaker 3: you know money.
Speaker 1: Well, he knows I can't.
Speaker 3: Come. We're gonna do that. I talked them out of
Speaker 3: the grenade.
Speaker 4: I talked about two years old you want to, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be talking out of this one.
Speaker 1: Atlas even if I had it iced out.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 6: My whole thing was like, yes, it's about getting money
Speaker 6: and yeah, but at the end of the.
Speaker 7: Day, you gotta have some sort of integrity.
Speaker 6: You have to have some sort of respect for yourself
Speaker 6: and for your clientele. That's how I survived. I believe
Speaker 6: this long. You know, first of us to do the
Speaker 6: God graces. You know, God is great number one first
Speaker 6: and foremost. Second, I believe that you have to be
Speaker 6: straight shooter. If there's something that they don't need it
Speaker 6: and there are a certain bracken age for what bro
Speaker 6: do this instead of doing that, because when you come
Speaker 6: back to me, when you come back to me, I
Speaker 6: can give you money for this, because.
Speaker 7: It's always money.
Speaker 3: Hold out value this.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try you a dollar. I'm gonna give twenty
Speaker 7: five cents.
Speaker 3: Later, you're gonna look at me crazy.
Speaker 7: You're gonna look at me crazy.
Speaker 3: That's why now you actually, this is a question.
Speaker 5: Do you think that hip hop propped up the grey market? Then,
Speaker 5: by what you're saying.
Speaker 6: Right now, absolutely hip hop did hip hop. Listen, all
Speaker 6: the designers clothing starting from clothing.
Speaker 7: Shoes, all the way on jewelry. It's all hip hop.
Speaker 6: Hip Hop has went from being hip hop to now
Speaker 6: being front and center.
Speaker 7: Right right right.
Speaker 6: Look at all the fashion shows. Listen, I'm not a
Speaker 6: fashion here or whatever. Look at all the fucking fashion shows.
Speaker 6: Who you got over there? You got Look at the front.
Speaker 1: Row like that never used to be like that.
Speaker 6: You got fucking front right, front row, everybody in that
Speaker 6: you you got.
Speaker 3: How much of a big you got fucking Pharrell, you
Speaker 3: got fucking.
Speaker 4: But how much of a big The other was just
Speaker 4: for little Kim to be seen with in the ninety.
Speaker 3: A big deal, big deal.
Speaker 4: It was a big deal for for for for like
Speaker 4: us to be embraced.
Speaker 7: I love hip hop.
Speaker 6: Hit made me what I am today, made my family
Speaker 6: gave me what I have.
Speaker 7: Thank God. If it was a hip hop, we wouldn't
Speaker 7: be here. I wouldn't be God, I.
Speaker 6: Can't, I can't see if I'm wearing what I'm wearing now.
Speaker 6: With this, I will always you know, represent anywhere I go.
Speaker 6: Hip Hop made me period. Yeah, my mom and dad,
Speaker 6: god whatever, but hip hop financially understand put you know,
Speaker 6: put me on the platform.
Speaker 7: Was hip hop. I hustled my ass off and where
Speaker 7: I am today is but it was hip hop, you know.
Speaker 5: But going back to what you said about customization, when
Speaker 5: the guy wanted the football player wanted the piece, and
Speaker 5: you're dissuading from doing it because.
Speaker 3: You said, if I buy it back.
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be at the same ringle is the
Speaker 5: value only to the person buying it because of them
Speaker 5: is not really folding his values logo.
Speaker 6: This is my logo, like this is my little It's
Speaker 6: valuable to me. This holds I.
Speaker 5: Think people need to know that because they'll look at
Speaker 5: everything shining.
Speaker 6: But it holds value for me because this is my name.
Speaker 6: That's his name, his logo. You understand, like it holds
Speaker 6: value to you. But if God forbid, you fucked up,
Speaker 6: God forbid. Yeah, you can sell it, but it's not
Speaker 6: it's not going to hold it stop because when beholder.
Speaker 3: Like a painted and unless it becomes a classic piece
Speaker 3: off his.
Speaker 1: Jewel seen on you know, like like the same thing
Speaker 1: but also his whole collection. Right, Yeah, like Jay Balden
Speaker 1: did the same thing. When I sold Jay Balvin.
Speaker 3: His his would take the.
Speaker 7: Six million and five and six million dollars watch that.
Speaker 7: Richard mill.
Speaker 6: Watch this, this the the the the sapphire. It was
Speaker 6: one in the world piece, unique, one in the world piece.
Speaker 6: Understand honestly believe if he auctions that off you know.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait said that again.
Speaker 1: The sapphire with washing, the blue one that looked.
Speaker 3: Like whole one old one. You sold him now I
Speaker 3: saw him.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, right after the whole little babe situation. Right right, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm answering that.
Speaker 4: Okay, shut up, my man, No one time, Twizz Twizz
Speaker 4: the jeweler man, because he made my piece. I know
Speaker 4: we talked about Okay, but this shoul't mean the world
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's it's it means something.
Speaker 6: To you, yours, it's unique to you.
Speaker 7: If you want to sell it, you're gonna lose what.
Speaker 6: You're gonna You're gonna lose labor because that's what we
Speaker 6: paid for labor estime plus whatever gold value is.
Speaker 7: Just then there's there's a chart for that. There's a
Speaker 7: gold price for that.
Speaker 6: So it depends on what the jeweler makes profit with
Speaker 6: margin wise, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 7: At the end of the day.
Speaker 6: I can tell you my favorite watch honestly is a
Speaker 6: protect I have a fifty nine eighty. I love that watch.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's it's the way they made it.
Speaker 6: It fits. Just it hugs your wrist. It's insane. It's
Speaker 6: just the way it hugs your wrist is literally bananas. Honestly,
Speaker 6: rose gold and a stainles steel. The way they just
Speaker 6: hug your wrist, the way they made it is unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Now they came out with that cube. I know this
Speaker 6: one has it the cue of the protect, the protect. Yeah,
Speaker 6: first one in America. First, we don't know, don't say,
Speaker 6: just say like I have it.
Speaker 7: You know, I was the.
Speaker 3: First one in America. Okay, it could be proven.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, but obviously it could be proved.
Speaker 1: This is my beion was his name, Marcus Warburg, my man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry and whole yeah yeah, beat, yeah, yeah, it's over.
Speaker 6: Excuse me, not past the Tiffany stamp.
Speaker 3: Still don't matter. I have the first Cuba of this,
Speaker 3: Yes is.
Speaker 1: His the cub of this?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I was the first one in the Cuban.
Speaker 1: But my opinion, my.
Speaker 7: Opinion, and I believe this is a lot of Jews.
Speaker 6: After twenty six years of the Nautilus.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that? Yeah, but but it looks
Speaker 1: like a fucking but the thing about it somethings. But
Speaker 1: the thing about it, you can't say that to watch collectors.
Speaker 3: We can't listen. Hold on, let me let me just
Speaker 3: tell you say my point.
Speaker 6: If you don't watch collector, that's so two of them recently.
Speaker 6: I'm like you sure, they're like, you know what because
Speaker 6: they don't even know themselves. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're doing it because.
Speaker 3: Here you go.
Speaker 1: It's this this watch company that hasn't made nothing in
Speaker 1: twenty five years. They make something, hold on, they make
Speaker 1: something that next year.
Speaker 3: As a watch collector, you need to own that. No.
Speaker 6: Yes, did you think one of your songs with Pharrel
Speaker 6: that was fucking a smash hit and just tweaking a
Speaker 6: little No, you're.
Speaker 7: Not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: That's not what this is. That's what, sir, That's not
Speaker 1: what As a watch collector, you need to own that. See,
Speaker 1: you're a seller and you you you are too much
Speaker 1: involved emotionally.
Speaker 3: That is not That's not what this is, sir.
Speaker 1: This game has changed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sixty thousand retail, seventy one, seventy one.
Speaker 7: Yeah it was when to drop undred undred?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, what do you think it is today?
Speaker 3: Try again?
Speaker 7: Try again? Where do you think it is today?
Speaker 3: I tell him I lose.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just say I'm not buying watches, not saying I'm
Speaker 1: just saying to collected watches, sell watches, you know.
Speaker 6: Right now in this market, and that goes for all
Speaker 6: of you, and and then and the and the audience.
Speaker 6: Just relax, take it easy, just because something comes out first, relax,
Speaker 6: let it settle in. Let it this game. No, no,
Speaker 6: I understand, that's not that's not what Let me finish
Speaker 6: unless it directly from the A D.
Speaker 1: Directly store to AD that's but if you come to me,
Speaker 1: let me just take collected and the drill is watch chasing.
Speaker 3: That's the thrill. That's the thrill.
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's like when you when you know
Speaker 1: no one else can get what you can get, no
Speaker 1: one else can't do. Just know, you know how many
Speaker 1: people have an FBB this. I want to say, I'm
Speaker 1: almost the first black person I know.
Speaker 3: To have people your home. I'm just playing it nice
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 1: It was nice to say, let me you're the first,
Speaker 1: the first.
Speaker 3: First, I gotta have watch watch Watch. Trust me.
Speaker 1: I told people about told people about Swiss, I told
Speaker 1: people about reggae though everyone laughed at me when I
Speaker 1: said that. When I say this, I told Peo about
Speaker 1: Daddy Yankee. When I tell people, listen, the next hot
Speaker 1: watch brand, it's gonna be FB. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: it's already hot.
Speaker 3: It's world. It's just not hood hot. I got one
Speaker 3: of the one.
Speaker 7: That's the thing that.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get it, whether they depending on. It's really
Speaker 3: like who want to say it in the Rat like
Speaker 3: Drake saying in the Rat.
Speaker 1: Like he's the last independent watch makeup there is, and
Speaker 1: like word is he's a genius. He gets big all
Speaker 1: day and fuck with hookers world upend look allegedly allegedly,
Speaker 1: And it's just he makes these brilliant watches. You can't
Speaker 1: right now, there's no face, so you can't implicate it.
Speaker 7: You can't domic You don't have to write essay to
Speaker 7: get this watch.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I wrote, I wrote Mian right yo, I
Speaker 1: forgot I was dyslex wrote that ship runs though he said,
Speaker 1: if you don't.
Speaker 4: Give me this watch, I will put the boat out and.
Speaker 3: I should have said that, and then you still you
Speaker 3: still gotta wait nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get him watched. We've been scoping out
Speaker 1: the right one. He don't know, Yeah he don't.
Speaker 3: He don't really he don't. Yeah, realistic, I hear.
Speaker 7: You, bro, But you gotta you know he lived once.
Speaker 3: Bro, last I had it. I'm gonna get him something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta go.
Speaker 3: You gotta put it through.
Speaker 7: You gotta get a watch.
Speaker 3: There's only one watch that I want. He knows to watch,
Speaker 3: only one, like yeah, Black Rollers, I don't even know
Speaker 3: Black That had one. That's why. That's the only reason
Speaker 3: why I know we make it.
Speaker 7: You know who had that?
Speaker 6: I did the one for a whole, the sky Dweller
Speaker 6: when the first drop, when it first drop, he called me, said, yo, bro,
Speaker 6: I need to I couldn't even get one.
Speaker 7: I couldn't even get one.
Speaker 6: I don't know how he got he got one, and
Speaker 6: then I got him the other one, and then the
Speaker 6: forty ones came out, got him to immediately. But then
Speaker 6: the Skyswoller, the white Gold or Staley Steel came out.
Speaker 6: I took that and I gave it to Bamford.
Speaker 7: You know Bamford. No, you know Banford.
Speaker 6: Bamford is a company in England. They customized, but they
Speaker 6: have a partner sort of. It's like a partnership with Orles,
Speaker 6: not really, you know, they know them. They let just
Speaker 6: do their thing with their watches. You know, they're the
Speaker 6: only ones to let them do their thing with their watches.
Speaker 6: So I took that and I just made one the
Speaker 6: whole all black, Matt Black with the rock with the
Speaker 6: rock Nation logo, the one one that sits in the
Speaker 6: back one of one rock Nation.
Speaker 7: It was sick. That's beautiful. Watch beautiful, have a picture.
Speaker 7: I'll show you.
Speaker 3: So we want to do quick time Okay, okay you
Speaker 3: guys send something over. Yes, yes, the rules I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go to. I watched this and I know exactly when
Speaker 3: you get the text to do quick time with live
Speaker 3: and I'm like.
Speaker 7: What's this?
Speaker 3: It has and leads? Okay, what is that?
Speaker 6: Man? Has?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 7: What are we doing there?
Speaker 3: For your shot? For your shot?
Speaker 7: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: You can have you can have some man you staying
Speaker 5: with the Broyeah.
Speaker 7: You know it's the water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just said it. Go bro, come on. The
Speaker 3: small shots, small shots, but one.
Speaker 7: That just sounds fucking extreme. Thank you.
Speaker 3: All do little shots. I always wonder who said the text.
Speaker 1: You're taking me home? Mister Lee has it? You got
Speaker 1: mister Lee has and when you hear he's gonna give
Speaker 1: you Yeah, yeah, I got you. So we're gonna give
Speaker 1: you two choices. I mean, I don't know how we're
Speaker 1: gonna do with both, but we'll figure it out. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you two choices.
Speaker 3: If you pick one, you pick a choice, You make
Speaker 3: a choice. Nobody drinks, not one person drinks, you don't drink.
Speaker 3: Nobody drinks. But if you say both are neither, which
Speaker 3: would be the.
Speaker 5: PC answer, right, you avoid answer we're all drinking a
Speaker 5: shot again?
Speaker 3: Is this or that? It's basically yeah, this is answer
Speaker 3: every question. But the thing is, we're not trying to this, know,
Speaker 3: but it's really to bring up stories about people. Know.
Speaker 3: I know. Any of Wilson questions in there records. Should
Speaker 3: thirty might be mister mister why is the sunny coming
Speaker 3: the prescription shop?
Speaker 6: Ye, that's that's what The one of the questions, how
Speaker 6: many motherfuckers opened money? No?
Speaker 3: No, no, that's not that's not yet. Okay. The first
Speaker 3: one is disrespect, but that doesn't even make sense. How
Speaker 3: does that even work?
Speaker 1: Right? Hey, I'm almost I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you nas or snoop. As far as
Speaker 1: what it's whatever, it's a whatever criterion your mom got
Speaker 1: being ready Jamie, Uh nonsense.
Speaker 3: Do you have any stories of us?
Speaker 7: Of course a lot of I did a lot of
Speaker 7: his jewelry, great guy with him, iconic moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I did a piece for Swizzy, thank you. Definitely trying
Speaker 6: to get me drunk. I did a piece for Swizzy.
Speaker 6: It was a Bosk yacht.
Speaker 7: It was an actual Realcht painting.
Speaker 6: I want to say, Yes, I'll show you what we
Speaker 6: do is it's called it's called enamel, like our teeth,
Speaker 6: it's enamel work. Where this is an artist paid them.
Speaker 6: I'll shootload of money and like your face right there
Speaker 6: on your piece wasn't even actually done yet. I need
Speaker 6: to take it back from you and your mouth, the
Speaker 6: eyes and your hat says your name. We have to
Speaker 6: enamel it a certain color, like on the like on
Speaker 6: the TV, like on the movie. It's in white. So
Speaker 6: then Soiz he calls me, He's like, yo, I need
Speaker 6: to make a piece. I need to make he made
Speaker 6: one piece Andy Warhol, the frame. I designed the frame
Speaker 6: of the piece and then the Andy Warhol the cans
Speaker 6: and I mean, I'm an ali one. If you've seen
Speaker 6: the four pictures of I made that into golden diamonds,
Speaker 6: like with a diamond frame with diamonds around it. I'll
Speaker 6: show you pictures in here's shout out, shout out in front.
Speaker 6: She just text me, okay, hold on, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: show you.
Speaker 7: Look. I'll show you real quick. Sorry. I got like
Speaker 7: twenty five thousand pictures here. Look, um.
Speaker 6: Yeah, find it shit fast. So he made me, he said, yo, gee,
Speaker 6: make this for me. I'm like, yo, let me me
Speaker 6: right there.
Speaker 3: Yo, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Got a sentence shout a Swiss.
Speaker 6: See that right there. And that's twenty sixteen. I was
Speaker 6: actually before that.
Speaker 7: I just took a video of that. He gade me
Speaker 7: take this.
Speaker 6: And he actually, you see this exactly like the painting
Speaker 6: one to one. So I was this this video I
Speaker 6: was in I was in house in l A and
Speaker 6: I believe Swiss gave it to him somewhere in the
Speaker 6: studio or something like that, and it was this one
Speaker 6: and then it was Swiss gifted that Swiss gifts of
Speaker 6: that and you know.
Speaker 7: They brothers did they do that ship they give each
Speaker 7: other gifts.
Speaker 3: I love that, you know, I gotta get into that,
Speaker 3: So give me tell you. I used to remember the
Speaker 3: first Drink Sam episodes. He was like, man, we got
Speaker 3: gz coming into what questions?
Speaker 7: You said?
Speaker 3: You got equity question Drew.
Speaker 6: So that one of the stories was I made that
Speaker 6: for him, and then and then I you know went,
Speaker 6: I think I delivered him, uh his Jesus piece that
Speaker 6: I made for him, and then a couple of other things. Finals,
Speaker 6: and he's like one of my favorite rappers the world.
Speaker 6: I'm going in the funk. I grew up in Brooklyn, East,
Speaker 6: New York listening to him going on the train. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 6: ain't no fucking around here.
Speaker 3: I can't. That's what they need to clear up. Everybody
Speaker 3: thinks it's new. Yes, different, he's different out.
Speaker 7: I grew up in Start City. Everybody knows what's what's.
Speaker 3: Going on with that?
Speaker 7: So I grew up the B eighty two Bush all
Speaker 7: the way the FDR High.
Speaker 3: School in fang Okay, come on, connection. My first thought.
Speaker 7: My dad's first doll was in Flatbush in kan Avenue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm from Kate in the same fall.
Speaker 7: Right, Jamaican. They're like, right there. My first tittes I
Speaker 7: saw was in Flatbush and Kate.
Speaker 3: I was ten years old. The girl comes in down
Speaker 3: with Jamaican.
Speaker 6: Shirts, you know, the titties sticking out of you know,
Speaker 6: you know they're making, you know, and the shirts with
Speaker 6: the fucking holes in it.
Speaker 3: A couple of dudes. She comes into the store. She
Speaker 3: comes into the store.
Speaker 7: Over your son. I remember this. I'm like ten years old. Bro,
Speaker 7: I'm like, my dad was my shot.
Speaker 3: The ranks was hot.
Speaker 7: My dad was like me in the.
Speaker 3: Back of my head. All guys, we gotta do quick time.
Speaker 3: That was a long time. This goes for ghost face.
Speaker 3: Oh that's all shot Ray shot already.
Speaker 4: I feel like what you said, I'm gonna go ghost
Speaker 4: face though you said shot the Ray shot, No shot
Speaker 4: the Ray.
Speaker 3: You said shot Ray. I was Ray is my man.
Speaker 3: If I had to split him up.
Speaker 4: I just think ghosts gave us so many classics in
Speaker 4: hip hop, you know, like Cuban Link. First of all,
Speaker 4: it is just set off a whole chain of events,
Speaker 4: like we never seen the Purple tab A special.
Speaker 3: But you know when which ghost is a part of.
Speaker 4: But when we go from from that to Iron Man,
Speaker 4: to Supreme Clientele to Bulletproof Wilets to the pretty Tony
Speaker 4: albums more fish like. I think Ghost has one of
Speaker 4: the better discographies in hip hoping none like you know.
Speaker 4: I think Outcast has a hell of a run. I
Speaker 4: think Jay has a hell of a run. I think
Speaker 4: Kanye has a I think those Face has an incredible
Speaker 4: like four album running.
Speaker 3: So shout to go. Okay, hit boy or hit maker?
Speaker 3: You asked me, I was hit boy all day, boy
Speaker 3: him make h making this me one time? My brother
Speaker 3: him make it this one time. I know both of them.
Speaker 3: I deal with both of them. But that's why you
Speaker 3: hit man, you you big hit maker? No hit boy
Speaker 3: boy hit boy? Okay, Well, but I helped make a
Speaker 3: this him making this me forever?
Speaker 1: Really bullshit about No, I think I actually did.
Speaker 3: I actually did.
Speaker 4: And then if you with him when I was a
Speaker 4: double XL, when he did the Sexy Can I and
Speaker 4: and when he when he was first propping. But I, I, like,
Speaker 4: I'm a member, had what he said. You gotta ask
Speaker 4: him that. But he when I dropped my first album,
Speaker 4: when I got back to you that because you you
Speaker 4: brought it up. You got this is like the show
Speaker 4: this is. You're not dodging, no question. I know what
Speaker 4: it's like to be on the other side and ask
Speaker 4: somebody Dodd's questions. I can't tell you why he dissed me.
Speaker 4: I can tell you what he said to drop my
Speaker 4: first album he tried to dis He like tweeted at
Speaker 4: Joe Budden. He was like, yo, Joe, Like why why Rob?
Speaker 4: He gets to sit up there and talk about what's
Speaker 4: hot and what's not. But his music sounds like how
Speaker 4: it sounds so trying to say like I was like
Speaker 4: that shit came out of nowhere. But you know it's
Speaker 4: all good, like you got, Like I've criticized people before.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm measuring my critics.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 4: It's never hate, but you know I criticized people for it,
Speaker 4: so you gotta take it. But if I'm if I'm
Speaker 4: being honest, if I am being honest, that aside, just
Speaker 4: what the fuck hit Boy done is incredible.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 3: I love what hit Boy's done, like.
Speaker 4: Like like god, Nas like Nas is always popping.
Speaker 3: Nas is a classic.
Speaker 4: But the album run that he went with NAS like
Speaker 4: that late in NAS's career, the way they sold out
Speaker 4: the guard and all of that, and then the fact
Speaker 4: that hit Boy raps as well, and people like I
Speaker 4: can relate to that, like people probably tell him, yo,
Speaker 4: stick to make a beach sho, just make bee sho.
Speaker 3: We just want you for his beat, and hit Boy
Speaker 3: can actually fucking rap.
Speaker 4: And then puts his father on with his father in
Speaker 4: side of jail, and that it's the fucking family thing. Like,
Speaker 4: I think what hip Boy is doing is incredible, So
Speaker 4: I share that that hip maker story just because it's like, yo,
Speaker 4: we're being truthful and honest. But I pick hit Boy
Speaker 4: because I just think what he's doing is incredible. But
Speaker 4: I funk with some hit making joints. Still, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna lie like hit Maker guy got records, Okay, Primo
Speaker 4: Pete Rock, I got an answer, but I just want
Speaker 4: to take a shot, So.
Speaker 3: Table this.
Speaker 1: Yeah we got shot of po p Rock. Now you
Speaker 1: didn't pick That's why we took a shot. Yeah Okay.
Speaker 3: It feels like yeah, okay, yeah, you was explaining why
Speaker 3: you picked both was amazing out of Pete Rock.
Speaker 4: Though Pete Rock did hit me one day and say, yo, yo, man,
Speaker 4: we gotta I gotta get you some beasts man, we
Speaker 4: gotta do something.
Speaker 3: So Pete, that's dope. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If I have got that be Pack, I would have
Speaker 3: the picture I get to be. I respect that to
Speaker 3: be Rock. I love Rock Bro.
Speaker 1: Okay broad Yeah, Jacob the Jeweler or Tito clearly you
Speaker 1: know they wrote.
Speaker 3: That over there and I already feel like you know already, Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that if it wasn't I'm just saying,
Speaker 6: if it wasn't for Jacob, it wouldn't be me or
Speaker 6: anybody else.
Speaker 7: If it wasn't for Tito, it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be jac in all honesty.
Speaker 7: In all honesty, I believe you don't really put Jacob on.
Speaker 6: And if it wasn't, if titn't had more of a
Speaker 6: family dynamic, if he had more of a foundation grounded,
Speaker 6: you know, I had what we have back up in
Speaker 6: support and blah blah blah, I think he would have
Speaker 6: been out of here, right.
Speaker 7: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It just like the underdog, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: Like I'm always going for the underdog and anything if
Speaker 6: I if I'm a gambler, I'm going for the underdog
Speaker 6: because they wants who have more to proof, more to
Speaker 6: gain than somebody who's already you know there, that's all.
Speaker 7: So you who you pick?
Speaker 3: You know? Okay, can I can I answer that one?
Speaker 1: He answer that?
Speaker 3: Twizz the Jeweler.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, damn, you took a shot for no reason.
Speaker 7: No reasons.
Speaker 3: You're on drink chands. You got through you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock, I got my
Speaker 3: mind what I.
Speaker 4: Wanted to take a shot. But this day Chapelle, his
Speaker 4: day Sapel for me. Okay, I think it's Chris.
Speaker 7: It's Chris for me.
Speaker 3: I just I just I just saw Chappelle live. He
Speaker 3: was torn with Killer Mike. Yeah, it's crazy and and
Speaker 3: so he's still got they both Chris Chris is amazing,
Speaker 3: but like.
Speaker 7: Christians went through so much ship.
Speaker 3: But the Chappelle Show. Also, when I think about the
Speaker 3: Chappelle Show.
Speaker 4: In that era, like that was the last time I
Speaker 4: think in TV really like a show that the next
Speaker 4: day that we talked about it, whether you was in
Speaker 4: the studio or whether you was in school, or.
Speaker 3: Whether you was at work at the water pool. He
Speaker 3: waited for episode was a drop.
Speaker 4: And then the next day it was like, Yo, you've
Speaker 4: seen Dave Chappelle last night. Yo, you've seen the Prince Ship. Yo,
Speaker 4: I'm Rick James bitch Like, it's just so much ship
Speaker 4: with Day like like, I remember that.
Speaker 1: But I gotta remember Chris Rock had a show on
Speaker 1: HBO too. I answered that, and that's kind of kind
Speaker 1: of maybe what sparked today.
Speaker 4: Christ was more of a talk show. Yeah that's true,
Speaker 4: that's true. I think that has kids, though this has
Speaker 4: wanders like, yeah, they just gets But really the ship
Speaker 4: that set it off for for all of us. I
Speaker 4: think at least our generation was a living color Wayne.
Speaker 4: But were saying, we trying to set with Dave, and
Speaker 4: I got a big Dave. Dave, Okay, you ain't missing
Speaker 4: look like you go.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. So they disagree. Should
Speaker 3: we take a shot because they disagree?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they they big?
Speaker 3: Okay, death Row or t D.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm TD, Top Dogs, my brother, I'm going t.
Speaker 4: D to the Top Dog Entertainment. You remember that they
Speaker 4: used to start all their shows like that to the
Speaker 4: Top Dog and top do. I look like, I mean,
Speaker 4: death Row is iconic. But man, I love living in
Speaker 4: the moment. I love that we get to have t
Speaker 4: d right now. But can we can we forget or
Speaker 4: with Dethro did. No, you can never forget the predecessor.
Speaker 4: You can never forget what Dethro did. But yeah, what man,
Speaker 4: I think what t d E is doing right now
Speaker 4: is so special.
Speaker 3: And you know what's incredible about CD and if we
Speaker 3: keep it real, Kendrick is technically not on TV anymore.
Speaker 3: He's still a CD fan, but he's not on CD R.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. When he did that mister Morale and
Speaker 3: the Big Step is was his last album on td
Speaker 3: G n X is not technically a CDE album. When
Speaker 3: Kendrick had fulfilled his td E contract, the talk on
Speaker 3: social media talking months hip hop fans was they were done,
Speaker 3: right if Kendrick is there is not there that they're done?
Speaker 7: What do you did with?
Speaker 3: Is just this seven million records?
Speaker 7: He doesn't the whole different level is just.
Speaker 3: This seven millions? I know?
Speaker 4: I called him yea, what is doing right now with
Speaker 4: is about to become killing? And then and then you
Speaker 4: still got school Boy Q. I think Blue Lips was
Speaker 4: on on for sure favorite albums of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: I think what abs sold is still doing is amazing.
Speaker 4: So they still they still could sell records and commercially
Speaker 4: impact and still keep critical acclaim.
Speaker 3: That's hard to do.
Speaker 4: It's hard to satisfy the critics and affect the charte
Speaker 4: at the same time.
Speaker 3: I just think this moment we're living in with CD,
Speaker 3: we got to.
Speaker 4: Appreciate because they counted Top Punch, shout the Moosa, They
Speaker 4: counted them dudes out. When Ken Drake said he I'm
Speaker 4: gonnna start PG lang and and looking them numbers on
Speaker 4: scassor Man, it's incredible, man.
Speaker 3: And it feels like they fixed or they figured out
Speaker 3: all the wrongs that happened with death bro.
Speaker 6: Well that's what he did with saying like talked on
Speaker 6: with Q boy school with QT shots.
Speaker 7: Ten years, took animals with him to get to to
Speaker 7: get to Kendrick to.
Speaker 3: Forget.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm just saying they went, I don't know,
Speaker 6: like that's me and me and having conversations.
Speaker 3: But but also think.
Speaker 4: About it, think about Jay Rock, right, and I was
Speaker 4: at Double Excel at the time when.
Speaker 3: We put Jay Rock on the cover. Ken was at
Speaker 3: that shoot. It was like, yeah, because Kendrick used to
Speaker 3: be Jay Rocks used to go on the ruin coming
Speaker 3: up right, and then Kendrick made it the next year.
Speaker 3: Like they created such a system.
Speaker 4: So really, when we think about it, like Jay Rock
Speaker 4: is really the what they call him the first dog
Speaker 4: out TD. So so Jay it was supposed to be
Speaker 4: Jay Rock in the beginning, but it ain't work out
Speaker 4: in the way that they Again.
Speaker 3: They knew to the game.
Speaker 4: They probably had to take their lumps a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's when they figured out how to win to be
Speaker 4: the president TD. Like I mean, I don't I don't know,
Speaker 4: I don't even cam Yeah, but I don't even know
Speaker 4: if Jay Rock wants.
Speaker 3: Vice president. But the beautiful part is so Kendrick is
Speaker 3: the one that takes off right and and Jay Rock.
Speaker 4: Jay Rock is more underground, right, doesn't have the commercial
Speaker 4: success that that that that Kendrick got. But Jay Rock
Speaker 4: still is a Grammy winning artist. Jay Rock won a Grammy,
Speaker 4: so they were a would have build that ship up.
Speaker 4: And we live in the world with Jay Rock, who
Speaker 4: didn't change who he was anybody.
Speaker 3: At all is a Grammy Award win.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you something, he is top Dog. Top Dog.
Speaker 6: One thing I love about top Dog, he's the same guy.
Speaker 6: I don't know him like that personally, but I had.
Speaker 6: I started me and my one of my guys, one
Speaker 6: of my boys, uh Jack from Cincinnati. We started a label,
Speaker 6: all right, it's called uh BC. It's called Big Big Coin,
Speaker 6: not Big the coin. So he had a few artists.
Speaker 6: This is active now, there's act active now. I gotta
Speaker 6: see what the change just to be in the sadude.
Speaker 6: But the point is we tried to just get in,
Speaker 6: like not me. I'm helping my boys. I'm not on
Speaker 6: the content. I'm not on the paperwork, none of that.
Speaker 6: I'm helping my boy, bro. And I'm going to everybody, everybody.
Speaker 6: I go to top Dog.
Speaker 7: I don't know, Bro. The guy is such a.
Speaker 3: Great dude, never changed.
Speaker 7: He's so humble. Bro, bring him to La.
Speaker 3: I want to Bro.
Speaker 1: They flew out to La. They had to sit down.
Speaker 1: He listened to every fucking song.
Speaker 6: He fucks with the young boy and because he's like yo,
Speaker 6: he's like a little Dirk situation going on. But the
Speaker 6: young boy just in and out of jail, just with
Speaker 6: the bullshit, you know, all this bullshit. But he's like,
Speaker 6: you know, when he gets his ship straight top talk,
Speaker 6: he's like, yo, gee, he's we want to work. We
Speaker 6: want to do this and we said that, and I
Speaker 6: told him, they don't need your money. They just need
Speaker 6: your wheel. Your the wheel that's already in motion. That's
Speaker 6: all they need. They don't need your money. Just help them.
Speaker 3: They figured it out.
Speaker 6: They figured it out. That's what I that's what I
Speaker 6: respect them on top, like amazing dude.
Speaker 3: And they keep it very independent.
Speaker 5: Mind They've got exactly all the deals that they've gone through,
Speaker 5: but they keep it very independent.
Speaker 6: I love he's out of all these CEOs, all these
Speaker 6: guys that I know, like I deal with, this guy
Speaker 6: is unbelievable.
Speaker 7: He's such like such a humble guy. And I never
Speaker 7: seen this before.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get through this real quick slow bust down
Speaker 3: versus no bust down.
Speaker 7: No bust down.
Speaker 6: It depends on the situation though, Okay, like what it
Speaker 6: depends if you, you know, if you just want to
Speaker 6: funk around and.
Speaker 1: How about you get the factory, Richard Milly bust down.
Speaker 1: I don't have a bust down watching you do?
Speaker 7: You have a bezzel on it.
Speaker 3: It's a that's no way.
Speaker 1: A real covideo buzz down ship. But it's a buzz
Speaker 1: now it's supposed to know what do I mean My
Speaker 1: ship is factory.
Speaker 7: I don't care.
Speaker 3: Came with the diamonds on the bezel of course from
Speaker 3: cher from us the factory.
Speaker 1: Don't get no, no, no, no no no you you
Speaker 1: you must be misunderstanding, didn't we.
Speaker 3: Listen? We say that bust down is when your whole
Speaker 3: ship is not really not really. You got different language
Speaker 3: than us. As long as I be honest.
Speaker 7: With you, some sort of stones on it.
Speaker 3: You have diamonds on your bezel. That doesn't call it.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That's not because you called it.
Speaker 3: That always felt like if it was factory. That's just
Speaker 3: that is not gonna listen, I have an a P.
Speaker 7: Bus down.
Speaker 3: It's all the way, all the way. That is a
Speaker 3: bust down.
Speaker 1: I would have told you if you just got it
Speaker 1: on the bezel, that is not considered.
Speaker 7: I would have told you that a lot cheaper than
Speaker 7: when you pay.
Speaker 3: See he don't even But I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3: I like going to the A P people. You feeling
Speaker 3: like that, nigga? You know what I'm saying that with
Speaker 3: a P.
Speaker 1: You don't know. It's cool me and you. That's why
Speaker 1: you know I come to you like I'm you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, but you know, I got that
Speaker 1: relationship with a pad.
Speaker 7: He sends me to watch.
Speaker 3: He sends me your game.
Speaker 7: What do you think about this game?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 7: Now, don't get it, don't do this.
Speaker 3: He tells me.
Speaker 4: You still still never tell the deal of what you
Speaker 4: spend on your wrist watch.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm having fun in my world. My world.
Speaker 1: He's having direct from protect he has direct the direct
Speaker 1: from Richard No.
Speaker 3: No, Floyd would say, okay, hard.
Speaker 1: Direct a p then had director said, now I got that.
Speaker 7: Cheron is the hardest one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody got that. Only other you know, all the
Speaker 1: other other person in the world who got that watching bird?
Speaker 3: Who's sucker Brott? To keep me saying again.
Speaker 1: The medow motherfucker medaw mother.
Speaker 3: Let's puts down this next one. The source of double XL.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's definitely for you, double excel man.
Speaker 3: First of all, I worked at double XEL. We grew
Speaker 3: up on the source, so it's still you know I
Speaker 3: used to do. I started working when I was freelancing.
Speaker 9: Well, who'd you pick up DOUBLELF? Clearly I want to
Speaker 9: drink but double I'm good.
Speaker 4: Bring it up when when I was freelancing, when I
Speaker 4: started out as a journalists. I were freelance, so I
Speaker 4: could write for every magazine with four double for Double
Speaker 4: Xcel when I was just freelance. Once I got onto
Speaker 4: Double Xcel, they'd be like, Yo, you work for us,
Speaker 4: so you got to be exclusive to us. But I
Speaker 4: used to freelance for Complex, Vibe, Source, Double Xcel, Don
Speaker 4: Diva shouting Tiffany shout of Kevin Shiles.
Speaker 1: Probably you probably did a writ upon me, absolutely, absolutely, right, absolutely, But.
Speaker 4: I say all that to say is is after a while,
Speaker 4: you know it's dope because you get your name, your
Speaker 4: byline in the magazine.
Speaker 3: So I'm starting to make a name for myself right.
Speaker 4: But in the Source and there's the Mezino where there's
Speaker 4: the tail end of the day Maze and Benzene. However
Speaker 4: I'm writing, I'm writing up man, I'm stacking up bylines.
Speaker 4: And the check stopped coming from FROMXL know, from Source
Speaker 4: when the sauce yeah, so so so I'm still in
Speaker 4: the hole with the Source magazine.
Speaker 3: And then they sold it. Yeah, the sold me money.
Speaker 3: The saw sold me money. But so so I never
Speaker 3: got it was after a certain point, like they stopped
Speaker 3: paying me and I was like, damn, I had to
Speaker 3: stop writing for you. But you know, it's kind of
Speaker 3: that trade off because you're hungry to get your name
Speaker 3: out there, so it's like same thing, like my man
Speaker 3: and then but it's like yo, then you know you
Speaker 3: don't pay the invoice.
Speaker 4: So so.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't root for the sauce. I used to work
Speaker 4: for Double Xcel. I was part of the staff that
Speaker 4: really made cover hot. Yeah, man, shout to Vanessa, shout
Speaker 4: today Twine. So Double Xcel all day. Yeah, Mom Deeper,
Speaker 4: m P.
Speaker 3: We just went, yeah, that's for y'all us, yeah, m P. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Mob Deep, I don't even think of recipes.
Speaker 7: Pro honestly, that's my brother.
Speaker 3: I'm brooking for life. Man. But Mom, Mob Deep changed
Speaker 3: the fund.
Speaker 1: That those.
Speaker 7: Sending that sending that.
Speaker 1: Bus with fucking big CD player with the little big phones.
Speaker 7: Yeah that was it for me.
Speaker 4: That ship man everything to us when Mob Deep dropped,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But infamous like yeah, yeah, actually.
Speaker 6: Put my name in the song Prodigy really yeh. In
Speaker 6: his in his solo album it said Gabriel in the
Speaker 6: district get on my loop.
Speaker 7: I was like, that's the.
Speaker 1: The pe shout out to pay rest in peace, definitely
Speaker 1: q C.
Speaker 4: Or hold the hell hell g C m G. That's
Speaker 4: that's yo, gott my glasses. Oh man, that's a good question. Perfect,
Speaker 4: that's a good question.
Speaker 3: C MG. Man, I just think what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think what QC did was legendary with Migos and
Speaker 4: YACHTI and what they're doing with Baby now with Grilla
Speaker 4: right now. But man, I just like man, I ain't
Speaker 4: here from money bag Yo in a minute, but man,
Speaker 4: Man I went to Memphis about two years ago from
Speaker 4: one of Yo Gotti's birthday bash is when Gorilla first pop,
Speaker 4: she first had F NF And just to see that
Speaker 4: ship in the ground floor, just see the roof.
Speaker 7: Come off that that ship.
Speaker 3: I think CMG is killing it right now. I think
Speaker 3: the Memphis sound.
Speaker 4: I think Memphis is so important to hip hop and
Speaker 4: we don't give Memphis enough credit for the trends that
Speaker 4: Memphis is that. Yeah, I just I just want to
Speaker 4: give CMG the fly shot of yoga shot of QC too.
Speaker 4: Wherever I had to pick one, I'm picking CMG right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't see.
Speaker 1: I got I got I got I got I got
Speaker 1: me And that's work for game or Joe Budden, what
Speaker 1: the fuck does this saying?
Speaker 4: I think Wallow is one of the most important voices
Speaker 4: that we have right now. I think, I think, I
Speaker 4: think man and this is I've never met Wallow, like
Speaker 4: I don't know him.
Speaker 3: We have zero relationship. I like what Wallow is doing
Speaker 3: man Like, like when when you see these clips of
Speaker 3: Wallow talking to like like little Dirt for for for real, like,
Speaker 3: it's different Dunk Doug is one. It's different when when
Speaker 3: I say it or when.
Speaker 1: We say it like in media, because he got twenty
Speaker 1: years behind the him right, yeah, he got.
Speaker 4: Like I'm from I'm from Flatbis Brooklyn, like don't like
Speaker 4: for real, but I ain't partake in those activities in
Speaker 4: the same way. So when the medium when we kind
Speaker 4: of say, it's still like I can relate, but I
Speaker 4: can't relate full lead to what you're going through. Willow
Speaker 4: is playing his experiences in this and like, yo, I've
Speaker 4: been through. I've absolutely been there, and I don't want
Speaker 4: to see you go there. I think Wallow's voice is
Speaker 4: so one pointant I got to pick millions.
Speaker 3: Wallow this morning. That's crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I haven't did anything with him, but he's very inspiring. Ye,
Speaker 6: he's very very inspiring because you've been through all that
Speaker 6: crazy ship.
Speaker 4: And then I like, I like Gilly the same way
Speaker 4: because you need somebody to play off. Not the same
Speaker 4: as million dollars worth the game, but but drink Champs
Speaker 4: isna orient efent, like like you need that balance. So
Speaker 4: then Wallow kind of gives us like Gilly keeps in insane. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and Gilly still it's not like Gilly is steering nobody's
Speaker 4: wrong way.
Speaker 3: But but it's that perfect balance. Man a shotow Man
Speaker 3: Breakfast club or he Brow in the morning.
Speaker 1: Oh he broke.
Speaker 7: He's taking a shot. Now he's not taking a shot.
Speaker 7: He's gonna answer. I wanted.
Speaker 3: I want to take a shi he was shot just
Speaker 3: because I was.
Speaker 7: I was Breakfast.
Speaker 4: I was Brow in the morning too. Okay, I was
Speaker 4: on Brow in the morning too. I speak to Charlemagne
Speaker 4: every day. Charlamagne is one of my best friends. Yeah,
Speaker 4: me and Charlamage speak every day.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: But I grew up in New York City. Hot ninety
Speaker 4: seven was the first hip hop station that we ever had.
Speaker 1: Let's take, Let's just take.
Speaker 4: We're taking a shot, little little This ship ain't had
Speaker 4: ship in it this way.
Speaker 3: But to be clear, you were picking breakfast Club. No,
Speaker 3: I'm picking. I'm he didn't pick. I'm not like you.
Speaker 3: I want to see like yo, I think Charlemagne and
Speaker 3: where he's going.
Speaker 4: Mental health talk in the Yeah, like I think the
Speaker 4: growth of Charlamage. If you really think about what Charlomagne
Speaker 4: came from when he.
Speaker 3: Went through Underwindy Williams, like like he got busted, remember right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: when he out of Philly, he got fired, he got
Speaker 3: black ball. Like what he's built is amazing.
Speaker 4: And it's fucked up because like, Charlamage is one of
Speaker 4: my best friends for real, Me and e Bro are
Speaker 4: super cool.
Speaker 3: I funk with them both. I know they don't fuck
Speaker 3: with each other, but I respect them both. So I
Speaker 3: had to say the shot.
Speaker 7: Neutrals those two.
Speaker 1: But they're both important voice but they're both important still.
Speaker 4: But but I truly believe that man and I see
Speaker 4: where they disagree and whatever.
Speaker 3: Where do they disagree one? I just think it's rival
Speaker 3: stations too. I think it's being across the street from
Speaker 3: each other like it's hip hop.
Speaker 5: It's because I think the greater audience doesn't understand where
Speaker 5: where there's a revelry.
Speaker 4: I think it's just being from New York, Like New
Speaker 4: York had hot ninety seven was number one for so long. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then and then here because I want to say,
Speaker 4: you know, even as you jumping a back, it was
Speaker 4: like they was going in. Yeah, they just as competitive, man.
Speaker 4: But and then I also think lines across I think
Speaker 4: personal things was said, like in the spirit of composition,
Speaker 4: certain things was said that maybe they can't forgive or
Speaker 4: maybe they'll never be cool, but I appreciate them both, man.
Speaker 3: So, uh, loyalty or respect, it's kind of a perfect
Speaker 3: segue into that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, loyalty or respect, both of y'all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd rather have loyalty because if you have loyalty,
Speaker 6: then you respect is obviously there in some sort of aspect,
Speaker 6: but loyalty will definitely go further their respect because anybody
Speaker 6: can respect anybody.
Speaker 7: You can respect money, you can respect religion, you.
Speaker 6: Can respect whatever. But your loyalty lies with something, has
Speaker 6: to lie with something. My loyalty lies with what I
Speaker 6: believe in and what I'm doing, and you believe in
Speaker 6: what you're doing. And that's I believe loyalty is one
Speaker 6: thousand the way it is.
Speaker 3: Lais because I respect is great. But I also I
Speaker 3: know how to handle disrespect. We can meet disrespectful if
Speaker 3: you want to be disrespectful. We got disrespect. But but
Speaker 3: but loyalty is something special. Definitely, I'm gonna take a shot.
Speaker 3: I just want both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the best man if I always say
Speaker 1: both have the option, right, yeah, I feel like yeah,
Speaker 1: So what it is is.
Speaker 7: Uh, take a super I'm gonna do too.
Speaker 3: Nor. I gotta go, you go, yeah, just go. We
Speaker 3: should take you shouldn't take a shot. He took two shots.
Speaker 3: We're gonna take.
Speaker 7: You gotta watch special man.
Speaker 3: I believe how many he is?
Speaker 7: This too much?
Speaker 3: I got seventy million?
Speaker 1: You need to pause that, bron.
Speaker 7: Wat I think I think anything over forty two milimeters?
Speaker 3: We okay, that's all right, all right?
Speaker 7: I forgot.
Speaker 3: Was it? But my ship?
Speaker 4: Is we losing right now? Like the culture is losing?
Speaker 4: What do you mean the coach is losing because the
Speaker 4: coach has been and listen, listen. The Internet has given
Speaker 4: us a lot. Going digital has given Internet culture has given.
Speaker 3: Us a lot. Is giving us a new way to hustle,
Speaker 3: a new way to make money. You make them the
Speaker 3: motor culture that is its own culture.
Speaker 4: Is different from hip hop culture. So there's a lot
Speaker 4: of fans out here. Again, like you might be a
Speaker 4: Drake fan, but if Drake didn't exist, what you fuck
Speaker 4: with hip hop? Which you fucked with this culture? This
Speaker 4: ship is not based off of who tops the billboards.
Speaker 4: That shit is nice. We celebrated because we love to
Speaker 4: see each other win. But who's at the top of
Speaker 4: the billboards consistently don't fucking like it does a matter
Speaker 4: for hip hop.
Speaker 3: It don't dictate to us who the best. It don't
Speaker 3: dictate to whatever you move. You did tate how this
Speaker 3: fucking charts move. You know what I'm saying, because look,
Speaker 3: and if I'm being real, I'm from an era where
Speaker 3: because if you want.
Speaker 4: To talk about charts, mc Hamm had it all and
Speaker 4: we didn't hammer dirty dirty when he was hot, Himmer
Speaker 4: took bullets. Everything that rappers are getting now that they
Speaker 4: get prosphagan him and had a fucking Super Bowl commercial
Speaker 4: that that hip hop clown him for him had all
Speaker 4: the success that hip hop clowned them for. We need
Speaker 4: to actually appreciate MC him more because all the ship
Speaker 4: rappers aspire to right now is the ship happened with
Speaker 4: going back then.
Speaker 3: I'll do you another one. Another example of how fucked
Speaker 3: up this culture is MF.
Speaker 1: Doone.
Speaker 3: How much we revere him now, not in life, but now.
Speaker 4: Based off from when he was alive and Big al
Speaker 4: the same shit like like I argue with people all time.
Speaker 3: I know people who Big l is, they favorite them.
Speaker 3: See he's one of my favorite them sees.
Speaker 4: But remember we from that era where I remember when
Speaker 4: Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous came out and I
Speaker 4: bought it.
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers. Wasn't fucking with Ellen to he died? No, No,
Speaker 3: I was like like for early early you for sure. MF.
Speaker 3: Dooing Man.
Speaker 4: One one of the greatest moments I had, Man, I
Speaker 4: was driving my son sixteen years old. I was driving
Speaker 4: and called my son. I said, man, just play whatever
Speaker 4: you want, like you know what I'm saying. So he's
Speaker 4: playing the Aufs. They said, Yo, Dad, you ever you
Speaker 4: ever heard of this rapper? And he started playing mad Villain.
Speaker 4: He stopped playing.
Speaker 3: MF.
Speaker 6: Dooing.
Speaker 4: I ain't put him on into this ship. He just
Speaker 4: discovered the ship on his own, like rest in peace
Speaker 4: to MF.
Speaker 3: Doom.
Speaker 4: I was at New yorakan post Cafe. When he did
Speaker 4: his first show, he used to be zev love X
Speaker 4: and then he changed to MF Dooing.
Speaker 3: You're talking about him with the third Base recently before
Speaker 3: he had the metal mask. He did his first show
Speaker 3: at the New Yorekans Post Cafe. Shout out to Oz
Speaker 3: and Elie from Night Train.
Speaker 4: They put that show on. He shout shout at my
Speaker 4: manc search. He had a stocking cap on. So so
Speaker 4: my son is like fronting like he's trying to put
Speaker 4: me on the MF. Doom and I'm sitting here, I'm like,
Speaker 4: bro I was at his first fucking show. Yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 4: but but but it was dope to me that my
Speaker 4: son could just discover it on its own.
Speaker 3: So I mean, this hip hop shit, this sh is
Speaker 3: really colchre.
Speaker 4: This sh is away of life, like, this is really
Speaker 4: how we live, like like my kids could could attest
Speaker 4: man like I don't take It's not like mister Rogers.
Speaker 3: It's not like we come home and take our hip
Speaker 3: hop off. A lot of motherfuckers that benefit from us,
Speaker 3: a lot of motherfuckers that profit off of us, A
Speaker 3: lot of motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: That have ownership in this ship from the labels or whatever.
Speaker 4: They go home and take their fucking hip hop off
Speaker 4: like mister Rogers, right, they take the sims off, they
Speaker 4: take whatever, because that's not really them.
Speaker 3: When we go home, we go it's how we are.
Speaker 3: It's twenty four seven.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: I could FaceTime EFM at two o'clock in the morning
Speaker 4: and he's the same guy that he.
Speaker 3: Is, Like it ain't it ain't a home life and a.
Speaker 1: Hip hop answer, Yeah, I don't like FaceTime.
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