WEBVTT - Episode 460 w/ Rob Markman and Gabe Jacobs 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.120 He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast man. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:16.960 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.759 He ain't sagreed as your boy in O R E. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.759 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put up as d 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.239 J E f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.560 some of the biggest players you know, me and the 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:31.120 most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.360 drunk drinks Chans mocavery. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.880 Days New Year c That's it's time for drink Champions. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.320 Drink up, motherfucker. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:39.199 Mother fuck. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:45.760 What it could bees st be? This is your boy 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.680 in O R E. What up? It is DJ E 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:48.199 f N And this. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.040 Is Ta me Crazy World Podcast, Drink Champs, Jappie Hour 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.279 and you want to deliver It's no twenty twenty five. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.000 We can't believe he made it this long. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.680 So I got two of the best people that I 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.959 know to help share this moment with us. We got 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:11.520 journalists extraordinaire slash entertainer, rapper whatever, my motherfucking friend Rob 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:18.280 motherfucking We got a jewelry expert done everything, gets everything, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.160 what you want, makes it happen. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:25.600 Mister motherfucking game. So we're gonna get straight to it now. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:25.800 Gave. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.919 Let's let us know the jury game, right, it seems 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.800 like it's only only five jewelers at one time, like 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.559 you know this, it's a whole bunch of other jewelers. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.440 There's only five jewelers. Who really win? Is this jewy 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:38.480 secret Illuminati? 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.960 No, it's just uh, it's just social media got ship 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.520 really fucked up? Right, because you know, you know me 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.600 a long time. I've been doing this for a very 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.560 long time. Right, Uh did this without any Instagram, any 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.440 any social media, right, and uh, I think my Space 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:00.720 was just coming out when I started. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.640 But I was already still doing what I was doing. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.720 I was already in in the streets, in the field, 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.440 whatever you want to call it. You know, I would 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.240 put I put in the work, and I had book 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.680 bags in the clubs, just running around doing crazy ship 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.880 with a bunch of wolves around. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:25.400 Bro New York. MV was envy Exit clubs, wild clubs. 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.760 Like Okay, I think a lot of Yes, I respect 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.640 what they're doing, all of it. I wish them for 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.239 the best. I have no issue beef got for me 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.280 with nobody. You know, I'm in my own lane. You know, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:43.480 let them, you know, do that. But social media, social media. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.760 You know, it's very different these days. Like anybody can 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.919 just come to somebody, you know store and take a 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.320 bunch of pics and you know, post it and say 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.120 I'm a celebrity jeweler when they haven't seen the celebrity 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.320 in their life. Even if they do take care of 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.560 one or two people, you know, you're labeled the celebrity Jews. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.000 And I don't know about that. But you know, if 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.120 you know, I don't get it that way. You know, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:07.560 I look at it. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.040 You have to have a relationship with bombs, you know, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.480 like I have relationships with my clientele. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.560 We have a relationship, right, you know what I mean, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.880 Like you cursed me the funk out, I cursed you. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.000 We always do back in relationship. 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:22.480 The same thing. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:23.760 I have to say. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:29.440 A few people beefing over jewelry. Okay, just a certain thing. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.440 And if ship don't go, I'm gonna go over there. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:40.800 I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:41.320 That's not rich. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:42.600 I'll never go. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:47.200 No, I'll never go, you know. But again, to me, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.240 that's really I love it. You know, But what would. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.360 You say was your breakout piece? 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.120 Because like every time I walk in your office, it's 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.160 always the big jay Z was that the first piece 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:58.960 that was ever made? 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:00.600 And that doesn't you crush? 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:02.960 Was that one of the because remember when Jay wore 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.720 actually he was like killing mister t the first time 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.760 was was one? Was that your first breakout piece? And 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.480 and and just steck with that one for now? 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.960 No, No, that was not my break at that moment. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.760 It was, yes, but because. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.040 That's the first of it. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.040 That's the second question of it's kind first, the cut 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.880 of it's kind like World Guinness Book of Workers trying 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:26.880 to call me and put it up. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.000 I called him, I'm like sure, can I do this? 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.000 And he's like no, I'm like okay, wow, And I 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:32.440 said no. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:34.960 So you tried to get in the World Book and Work. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.280 They called you, they called me, and then you asked, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.960 I don't know, he seems he don't want. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:41.760 I don't play that game. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:47.159 But I believe my first breakout piece was nothing crazy, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:47.640 nothing big. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.839 It was for the one who really put me on 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:50.839 was Angie. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:59.440 Martinez Andie Martinez and yes. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.240 My you know, my big breakout was when I was 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:03.480 eighteen nineteen years old. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.719 That's how I met everybody. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.600 So so so so, how did you meet Angie? 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.960 So thank you. I think I don't know. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.640 I guess I was in some club or something and 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.240 somebody was just like, yo, we have a video shoot. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.520 When she was rapping, right. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:20.640 That's all I could go. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:29.240 I had got John, I was so I was very 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.679 new at this. You know, at that time video shoots, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.200 they say be there at two o'clock. I'm like, a 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.800 fucking be there at one forty, like wing around. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.359 It's just you that was telling you, yeah, okay, okay. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.600 So I'm thinking, you know, I'm very you know at 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.320 that time professional, be there on time. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.920 I'm fucking there twenty minutes early. Bro. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.919 She just thought ten hours later, what the fuck? I'm like, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.160 this is crazy. I'm like I'm sitting in the trail 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.280 or whatever. But before all of that that happened, Andrew, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.680 she had the Animal House records at that time, so 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.360 I cao. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:04.680 Yeah. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.880 So she's like, I want a house with you know, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.880 just a house, make me a house, and this and 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.920 that and this is this when she was on ninety seven. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:13.480 So I was like, yeah, I got you. I'm going 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.760 to make the sting for this jury. The house it 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.640 was appending. It was like a house, let's go house something. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.240 I forgot the name of the house, Ian t or 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:20.640 something like that. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.760 No, yeah, it was Animal House. Yeah. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.560 So I was like, all right, beg give me, let me, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.240 let me do my thing. So I and there was 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.280 like a record player in the like where the window 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:30.880 is supposed to be. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.320 So I took that and I made it spin. You know, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:35.880 back in those. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:40.000 Times, nobody had a spinning before the spinning spins. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.160 So I'm in its spin and the record you could 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.360 take it on and off, you know, the little the needle. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.440 So I did that and I presented it to him. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 It was like, oh ship, you know pick House really 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:53.719 at that time amore. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.280 He's kidding now, but he's still yeah. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.640 So then so then I delivered it and from there 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.880 they were like, oh, listen, we have a video shoot. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.400 Come to the video shoot. You know. That's where I 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:08.840 met j Lo. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.920 That's where I met Joe Crack and everybody was in there, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.560 and that's how it all started with that. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.800 And uh and what do you did you have a 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:18.560 shop at that time? 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.720 No, no, I have. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.960 I had a booth at uh on the diamondustry. I 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.160 had a booth inside of the inside of an exchange. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.880 I took the whole back. You know, it was nothing crazy. 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.720 It was about this big like the table like right here. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.200 Nothing crazy, you know, two showcases and uh look eighteen 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.160 nineteen years old, just you know, doing what I was doing. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.960 And uh, funny crazy story after that video, after that 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.640 video shoot, and I packed up. It was like two 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.160 three in the morning, and I get back to the 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.880 office the next day and I'm going. 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:51.440 Through the stuff. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.440 You know, I don't write anything down, invoice, this, this, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.400 fucking throw everything in the bag and we'll figure it out. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.760 You know I did write it, you know, certain things down, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:05.920 big big pieces. I come back five carriage studs each. Wow, God, 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:07.160 not not in my bag. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:07.640 Wow. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.080 I'm like, what the fuck. I'm like, I said it's 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.840 over and you started. I'm done. That's a lot of money. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.840 Back then, five characters each was like two hunch grand Wow. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.920 If not more, I'm like, I'm fucked. A couple of 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.520 hours later, my head is down, like this fucking Peckhouse 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.840 walks in through the door, had him on fucking walks in. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.120 He's like, what happened? I don't know him from a 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.920 whole no wall. Back then, I just handed the guy. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.640 I don't know him. I'm thinking motherfuckers into my head. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.000 You fucking slip. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:35.880 I'm sucking. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.200 He's like, you're good. I'm like, nah, bro, I lost 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.360 my earrings over there. I don't know what to do. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.520 He's like these. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:51.679 I'm like wow, shit, Wow, I'm like wow. Shout out 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:52.920 to pecos Bro. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.280 Let me ask you. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.400 So a person is starting now, do you do you 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.360 borrow the jewel young assignment until. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:08:59.960 You sell it? A cool So how does that go? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.199 So a person that's coming. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:06.199 Up in this business, you need relationships. It's all about relationships. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.760 You can make it or break it with your name. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.840 You know. Yes, it's good to have the money. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.040 You can do cash memos, you know, they you bring 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.520 the you know, you bring them whatever. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.560 Hundred gees and you take a hundred g's with the ship. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.160 You see what I'm saying. And then when you. 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.720 Come back, you drop off the jewelry minus whatever you 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.560 sold and they give you a difference in some In 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.040 my situations, most of it is where I just come 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.640 take whatever the fuck I want. Not back then, back 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.800 then it was you know, here, take a little here, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.640 don't you can't? You know you're young blacks. You know 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.320 you don't have insurance, nothing, you're just starting out. But 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.200 that's how Usually it's all about building a relationship with 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.079 the vendors, with your you know, with the ones who 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:49.720 are the O g's in the game. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.240 You know, you're just not just gonna come out of nowhere, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:52.559 and just. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:56.280 How do you even get that credential to even get family. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.880 It's it's you know, it's somebody who knows somebody work. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.719 You know, it's a family. You know, if if if 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.280 somebody brings you in, like my boy Mike, you know, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.120 like Lee knows my brother Mike, like. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.079 Lee knows everybody, Mike is Mike. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.880 Know he knows Mike, Mike. That's my boy. That's my brother. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.800 Like I brought him in, Like I brought him in. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.480 I'm like, bro, this is what you're doing. This is 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.920 what is going to be. Like everywhere I go, he's 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.160 with me. Everybody knows that's you know, like my face. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.320 You know he needs something, give it him. I just 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.480 get that phone call, you know, because somebody used to 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:32.000 do that for me. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:33.320 So now I'm his. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.320 You know this guy before it was somebody else for me, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.800 that was my guy. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:38.360 You know. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.920 So that's how it trickles down. You know, you got 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.080 to bring them in and you know again it's family. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:50.080 It's it's a family, family, conciliarity, round table. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.600 Gangster ship sometimes, you know, that's what it comes down to. No, no, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.480 because I know in twenty twenty five I got the whole. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.320 Right there, only. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:04.520 Twenty four well right there, but peace wise, I get 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.560 watches to commemorate my times, you know what I mean. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.920 Uh, this was something big for me. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.920 And I'm gonna tell you, guys your story about this ship. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.440 He like it was my favorite cartoons. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.040 Wow, yeah for. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.200 Shure, but show but show up the microphone. Okay, yeah, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.040 you're gonna show me that. You don't know what the 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.559 fuck did do? Let me give me? Yeah, help you 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:26.040 with all this? 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.520 Yeah that he calls me. 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.920 He's like, gee, I'm in the Lego movie this I'm doing. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.080 I'm like, let me tell you something. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.280 I put you on the stress for this, Bros. Like, hey, 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.880 I went so hard for I'm telling. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.480 You you see your changing? 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.040 Yeah, you see your little change. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.320 Because I didn't have no idea since the grenades, Like 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.920 how did you deal with bloods? 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:05.960 Change? It was weird because listen to figure figures in there. 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.360 You got the microphone right there. 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.000 It has other pieces like the in the in the 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.520 movie he has a spade bottle and a cup, so 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:15.320 I have that too. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.400 It can finish. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.160 You can put the ace of Spade in here and 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.640 then the cup in here. So I was if I 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.360 had more time, I would make the arms come off, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:25.360 put different arms. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.160 It was just a whole intricate ship going on here. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.120 So I call him. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.559 I'm like, bro, here's I sent him all the legos. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.920 There's sixteen thousand pieces. I said, Bro, pick the ten 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.640 you want. He said, for I'm like, we're gonna intricate 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:42.600 into this chain. So I took this that's a unique piece, 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:43.959 and I took the legos. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.440 And you can actually do one of these, you know 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:47.200 you can? 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.320 You can stack it? 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.439 He got, he got twenty twenty five right now? 0:12:58.760 --> 0:12:59.679 No, he said it all. 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:04.400 I'm who they gotta come real crazy correct with this one. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.199 So and then. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.400 He told me to call forrell And and to tell Lego. 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.680 At first I said, no, for real, he might beat 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:14.280 me to the point. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:20.199 Only reason I said that, the man. The only reason 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.079 I said that because j Balvin crazy. Jay Balman has 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.640 the astro Boy and I need that now is an auction. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.880 But somewhere was the Jupiter something. But he wasn't an 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:38.679 astro boy the movie. No, So yeah, the reason the 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.880 only reason I said let's do the NDA was because 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.920 Valvin is so straight shooter. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:49.800 He wants permission of the artist for his presence artist. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.640 So that's your the they called him. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.800 So I was just like, hey, but I mean, we 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:01.640 should do that around now. Like, but I got somebody 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.720 like what I didn't want to tell buster nobody today. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.400 I was like, I'm not telling them. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.920 That's crazy, that's people. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.880 That's insane, bro, that's hard. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.160 First of all, the fact that you was in that movie, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.320 because I was in the theater and I texted you 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.520 while I was in the theater seeing and and you 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.600 got to understand of when we became to know Norwa 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.440 was seeing them, was like, like you, you was a 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.280 different guy then. And if you think of that, and 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.960 not only that, your own experience in the movie theater 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.080 changed your whole fucking life, your whole trajectory. And I'm 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.240 sitting here with my son watching the Legs. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.720 Movie, keep going keeping right there. So you didn't know 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:48.840 I was in the movie, or you knew I was 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.400 in the movie. No, I knew you was in the movie. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.840 Once I got window what the movie was, like, how 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.080 can Normy not be in it? 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.200 You know what I'm saying. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.680 And I think they started letting out the trailers, but 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:03.960 then actually seeing it on the big screen and then 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.120 the way that that for real and he's always been 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.440 gracious and gave it up for you. What really gives 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.560 you that lane of like yo, nor was the one 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.920 enough he put them on and let me produce because 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.120 he had he had production everything, but it was nobody 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:18.840 trusted him. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.960 And it's really it's truly like how I said in the. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.440 Movie, said to me produce you like not let me 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.760 make a beat for you? And I had and I'm 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.440 a hot dude at the time. I got the number 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.120 one record in New York, so I could have easily 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.440 even like shut the funk up. But for some reason, 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.960 I know I sounded like a genius now, but I 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.600 was then because it happened. I looked at him and 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.840 I was like, but Chaves there too, because I hate 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:47.160 not just say that t was there too. I think 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.280 they both diserbed the credit on this, and they were 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.840 just looking at me. Although Chad didn't say much, but 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.080 he was like he was he looked at me. Damn, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.760 I'm mad that you can look at it and I can't. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:02.800 Y'all said, he says, we grow up. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:10.200 A Lego, but so so I tell you, yeah both 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.680 the funny story for all never tells me I'm an 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.760 Lego movie the whole time. By the way, I didn't 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.480 feel bad because I was telling all, y'all, Yo, he 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.120 didn't tell me he was in a Lego movie. I'm 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.040 sitting next to Teddy Riley, that's my guy, and the 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.720 premiere and Teddy Roley leans over to me and goes, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.080 did he. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.320 Tell you what was in this movie? I said, hell no. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.880 He said I feel good too. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.240 I said, he didn't tell you. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:34.960 He said no, I said, I feel good too. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.560 So he just had you, like if he was shooting 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.080 the documentary, Yeah, and explain to me. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.320 You know what coached you through the For me personally, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.440 I know it's gonna sound crazy, but I'm glad that 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:46.720 he ain't tell me because I would have tried to 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.960 act like a Lego like I don't know how. I 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.200 would have tried to be like cartoonish, like I would 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 have tried to do my overdo my job as opposed 0:16:55.640 --> 0:17:00.080 to to this. So like I get again, he's that 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.040 was an animeated Come on, bro, but you want not 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:02.920 animate you got. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.560 Say lego, man, you. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.920 Know he's just a cartoon attention. It was just you 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:08.760 just knew it was for me. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:09.840 I'm gonna tell you right now. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.440 This crazy guy calls me, but yo, I need this 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:13.800 and what two weeks? 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.120 Yes, I did. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.440 I had this ship ready. I had this ship ready 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.120 before Christmas. He just let yo where you at? 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.560 I went to Europe with Europe and here he wasn't 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:24.560 he was about time? 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:25.280 He was? 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.159 He wasn't that always time? He was what? 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:31.560 I took it home. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.880 I took it home my son just one and a half. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.880 He wanted. I sent him a picture. I'mself wearing the ship. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.240 This this is the killer part, the lego and then 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.840 the lego could stick it on all this. If I 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:42.480 really had. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:46.320 Some time, really, if I really have, I would where 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.960 every part can come off and he can stack like 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.240 actual leg I ain't give me time, but. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.800 I don't want every part. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.960 I think I think you are officially redeemed, But for 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:58.760 the newport, I think we can. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:01.280 I'm gonna tell you what. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:01.919 I'm gonna tell you. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:07.800 It was just too ignorant. Yeah, yeah, I was kind 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.919 of do but it was but you know what it was. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.600 It was, I swear to god, it was just it 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.360 was this old white I would have put a lighter 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:20.639 in that motherfucker. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:21.800 That lived in my building at the time. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.040 And that's the whole point. I didn't realize how like 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:31.040 you know, I can say how nignurish the newports was. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.879 And then so she looked at the chain and I 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.239 didn't really look at her looking into the chain. I 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.440 just opened it up and I pulled out a Newport 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.440 and I could see her face like I was embarrassed 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.639 at that moment, like wow, like like someone, Yeah, no, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:47.200 that's not it's not that building. 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.720 I lived in the whole other building at that time. 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.920 So yeah, yeah, I remember I was working at Double 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.159 Cell at the time, uh huh. And we used to 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.200 have a column in the front of the or whoever 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.760 had the craziest peace right, So you definitely you definitely 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:00.879 aren one of those spots. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:05.480 Yeah yeah, right, the New twenty twenty five. I'm not going. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.480 I had to set it off, right, you got to 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.359 do a photo shoot for that. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.800 Yeah, that's that's Banana's peace wise jewish but jewelry wise, right, 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.400 Like yes, like diamond wise. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:23.000 Who got the Saudi royal family? But I just posted them. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.600 Like really, the Saudi Warrior family. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.159 How easy is to do business with them? They come 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:28.840 all the way over here to work with you. That's crazy. 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:34.399 I know them for a very long time. But I 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:35.560 got three million dollars. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.160 Can We're not even allowed to see it posted. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.439 I'm not going to say what it's going who the family? 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.159 It's just that, you know. 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.240 All I said was, you know, twenty twenty five is nice. 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:48.760 Let's they crown prints on it. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.280 I want to ask you about these watches yeaes sir, 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:54.960 now that I'm a part of the watch world. The 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:59.800 watch world considered them bracelets. They considered them bracelets, right, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.960 they considerate jewelry pieces. We got we got the Prestine one, 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.280 which I have one, you know, big gout the Presstine. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.119 We've got the Abvy and Co. And it's basically just 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.160 a bus down. You can't really tell the time, there's 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.040 no movements, there's no open back piece. What do you 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.720 feel about these these these pieces? It's very popular in 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.439 hip hop because it's shiny, and people who don't actually 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:20.000 know watches. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.960 I made my own aunches as well, I'm making my 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:28.960 own as well right now. But it's again like you said, 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.680 it's for it's for status, right, Okay, But I think 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.000 these days, people are you know, with the Internet and 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.959 everything that's going on during COVID, people seeing what's going 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:43.160 on with jewelry, watches, how everything's just skyrocketed through the roof. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.520 But diamond pieces. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.159 In my opinions, if you have extra funk around money, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.119 that's cool. But you know, if you have you money, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.000 all right, cool whatever, But you know, in my opinion, 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.000 if you know, because because you're simple. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.399 Will watch, is you wanna protect you want yeah, you 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:07.680 know rich by the way, yes, yes, yes, yes, one yeah, 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.280 yeah yeah yeah. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.880 Right there back in yeah, back in COVID days or 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:14.720 you know, I forgot when that came out. I was 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:19.000 like half a million dollar watch maybe more. The scarcity 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.360 to see where was going with all this. Everybody that's 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.080 doing their own thing, you know, I wish them all 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.160 the best. Again, I know, I know everybody. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.600 I know, everybody's you know, doing their thing. God blessed. 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:37.720 But again, uh, for me, for myself personally, if I'm investing, 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.840 I'm investing in you know, I protect you know, you know, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:46.159 prestigious brand, you know, protect Richie Rolls. Understand. I'm not 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.080 you know, even my own brand. Understand because at the 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:50.679 end of the day, I know what's gonna end up happening. 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.639 Mike Clentella is gonna come back and say, hey, Gabe, 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:55.359 I want to you. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.119 Know, trade this in or I want to do this 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:57.520 and that. 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.800 I cannot say no, but you can. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.320 I say no because we have to say no because 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.240 we wanted to circulate within the market. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.880 Right, just like role you can't go. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.360 Into fucking roll Legs back then say hey I want 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.679 to trade this in. Now they could do that, us 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:17.720 could trade and they do that no back from you. Really, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.080 they do the you have to get it from them. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:20.679 You have to get it. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.560 Yeah, they do that now. They never did that before. 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.119 And I believe it's because of guys like myself and 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:26.680 the rest. 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.520 Of the jewelers. We've did that and we listen. 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.400 At the end of the day, these ads, these authorized dealers, 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:33.600 they cannot live without us. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.520 They need us, right, And that's what I'm like, you said, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.280 need these journalists you know the gray market where the 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.960 gray mark Okay, yes, absolutely, the gray market. They need 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.200 us because we're the ones that set the tone and 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.119 set the price for the secondary market. Is it true 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.119 that Frank Mula tried to actually sue all of the 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:53.240 jewelers and that's the reason why Frank Mulla's beastly. 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:57.480 I heard that, but I also heard he went crazy 0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:58.080 and like. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:00.800 He didn't want y'all selling his watches the great market, right, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:02.600 I don't know, I never heard that. 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:04.000 Okay, what is you hear? 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.640 He's a bit I just heard, you know, from from 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:08.840 the grape vines that you know, he just you know, 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.679 lost it and uh, you know, just the brand again, 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:15.359 we are the brand, you know, like I am my 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.280 own brand in my in my in my my company. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.720 Everybody is their own like Jacob is his thing, you know, 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:22.840 everybody does their own thing. 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:23.720 They're the fates. 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.240 I feel like I heard that, you know, he something happened, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.080 you understanding, there was personal stuff that he was dealing with, 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:32.879 and after that it just went into toilet. I honestly 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.240 think Frank Mules at that time were hot of ship dope, 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:38.920 like they were of getting to where Richard Miller is 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:45.480 today from you know, and I think I definitely don't 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.040 major major discount obviously, you know, the discount is crazy 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.120 forty fifty off whatever. But still I have a few 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:58.959 in my mouth. I carry a few, I think honestly, 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.800 Frank Muller was the first one who had that crazy 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:05.160 looking shape, right that Richie has now. Right, they had 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.760 that weird looking shape that they have now Richie has now. 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.840 So I'm gonna ask you about the like the Frank 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.479 Muler hip hop, when did rap raid off fuck up? 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.040 That was a good pivot, that great, great pivot. Bro, 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:26.200 I didn't even notice like that. Oh he's the Frank. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.440 I don't know about that. I'm going to leave you 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.040 that what happened with that? 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:37.960 Let's recap put out because I don't even I don't know, 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:38.280 I don't know. 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.560 I don't even know rants. And that's all I know about. 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.720 No, no, no, I'm not even saying that because I seriously 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.200 believe that it wouldn't have been a rant, or wouldn't 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.600 have been this this negativity or this feeling had rap 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.159 Radar stayed together, you know, and just kept putting our 0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:53.399 episodes so him. 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.240 Beat out staying together. 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.919 Yeah, I believe that when I'm staying not being together 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.399 had left that hole in the game for us to 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.240 keep going. For all artists, to keep having podcasts and 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.120 things like that. So when do you think that rap 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.240 radar went wrong? I know I said it funny, Yeah, 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.680 but dog going. 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:10.280 Shout to be that to be that. 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.919 Rap Radar, I mean, what they did and what they 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.560 built it was amazing. I mean, I mean maybe there's 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.840 a space for it to come back. But the climate, 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:20.960 you know, for one, I think the climate changed. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:22.320 Like like your. 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.440 Question that you gotta wait, you like, how did it 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.240 get to the point for for rapists to take over? 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.400 No, No, I'm saying rap radar particularly get to that. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.560 Rap up question. Yeah, it's tough out here, bro, it 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.160 is tough. And this is me not speaking on them, 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.480 and we can get the specifics I want. Gods, none 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:40.160 of your questions. 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:45.639 But as somebody as a journalist, somebody who was training 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.239 journalists who came up in journalism, it's tough, bro. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.320 It's tough to create. 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:56.120 Content that is dependent on guests week after week. Y'all right, 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.239 and and and but it's guests. But people show up 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.560 for Norri because Norri is the one that we all know. 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:05.639 People show e f N because EFN like the backbone 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.360 and and and the journalistic integrity and the one that 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.159 that you you're a wild boy, You're gonna keep shitting 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.440 on train, you know what I'm saying, And the dynamic 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:20.600 dynamic is amazing, right, it gets hard for journalists to 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.080 like week after week do a show, especially after COVID 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.520 a lot a lot of the look I'm gonna speak 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.440 from my personal experience. I was at Look Man, I 0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:30.960 used to be at Double XL, I used to be 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.600 at MTV. I used to be I'm still at Genius. 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.080 I used to have a show at Genius. They cut 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:41.320 the production budgets so people aren't investing in journalists the 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:42.720 same way, you know, like like. 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.400 Not to say y'all that it's easier because y'all work hard. 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:48.720 But it's easier to be like, you know what, I'm 0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.639 gonna put my money on the Norri on. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:53.680 The cam and the Maze on. 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.720 The Joe Budden because because but no disrespect. While we 0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:58.600 was out here making on bones, y'all was on one 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.000 on six in park, like you know what I'm saying, 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.000 and that don't mean that because plenty of rappers come 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:05.760 in and failed you how to put the work in 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:06.680 with it. 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:07.920 It just got hard and people. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.360 Said to my point right there exactly like my exactly 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.360 what he just said. From my side, Okay, I put 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.399 in all that work. We put in my generation you know, 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:17.960 came up. 0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:19.440 We put it all at work. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.360 Understand what Dip said with Joel's with you, all them 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.560 crazy ship that we started that trend with all that 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.840 crazy jewelry that had on Cam, with the crazy world. 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.440 I did that. Understand that all that the world. 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:34.400 About. 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:39.000 Okay, we we did all that first. We did that first. 0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.639 You know what I'm saying, Like when he was on 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.560 the source, wasn't xs L whatever, it was all his 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.919 ship on the Little Light. 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.720 Understand, the family did all that. Understand. So I feel 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.960 like we did all that because we. 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.399 Like you said, you understand, but you set a certain 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.280 standard and from there your next generation. But we we 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.760 set the groundwork, the foundation that these young guins can 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.600 now you know, do what they're doing right now. 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.359 But understand, Yeah, I got Instagram. 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.080 You know, I think this ship in the Instagram, like 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:15.000 I said in the beginning, nothing nothing. 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.480 Do you think it's easier for the jewelers now because 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.840 they have what the fucking DM and motherfucker. 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.800 I mean your facing the club, I mean I mean 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:33.040 your face yea for you I understood. I'm being I'm 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.280 here run around in the city, but. 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.480 You got you gotta play the game how the game 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.240 is to be today, I'm hanging on them. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:41.800 I'm not. 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:42.560 I'm not hanging on them. 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.920 I'm just saying we did all that, Like, I don't 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.200 think my honest opinion understand, no disrespect, and none of 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.040 these jewels out here, but if they were living in 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.920 my time, but they will get eating up real quickly. 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.280 I think that's I think that's the same with hip hop, same. 0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.160 Thing with hip hop. But to me, it's about how 0:28:58.160 --> 0:28:58.840 do you adjust? 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.960 Like for me, I I was like, oh wow, I 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:02.680 don't have my show on Genius anymore. 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.840 I don't have my show on Amazon anymore. Cool. None 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:08.760 of these corporations, none of these. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.200 Companies is going to tell me when I can go 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.920 on the air or when I can't. 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.040 So I started, I think it's it's just me. It's 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.280 not even depending on the guests. 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.080 It's just whatever I want to talk about, whatever I 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.880 want to get my opinion about. But people who come 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.640 to my ship know that they're going to get somebody 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.920 who's not like sensationalized. I broke down the whole Drake 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.560 and Kendrick Battle and it's necessary what you do. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:30.440 You don't have bias. 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.840 But it's like, man, like, somebody got to call it straight, 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:34.840 you know what I'm saying, Like, somebody got to. 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.360 Call this shit straight, so fuck it. That's my lane. 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.320 But it's like, you can't complain about the playing field 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.280 because the game is the game and. 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.640 It's not exclusive. It's not exclusive to hip hop. This 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.960 is indicative of what's happening in media, and. 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:48.800 That's in journalism. 0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.720 That's what That's what I hate about my industry is 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:56.920 they're always beating about clientele. Somebody comes to somebody, take 0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:02.360 somebody's client, bro, fucking name is not written on his forehead. 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.400 That's you know, is James client only? 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:05.880 Bro? 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.280 If somebody's trying to holler at him, and you know 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.959 they're trying to work some cool man, you understand. 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.440 But in this industry of mind is so cutthroat, is 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.680 worse than game. 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.360 I be seeing y'all fake beefing, but then y'all all 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:24.640 be at the same boss of us found together. I'm like, 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:30.440 wait a minute, that's the thing. 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:31.240 Listen. 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.000 We we have a respect for each other at the 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.040 end of the day, but there's a I don't know, 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:42.280 there's no beef. I don't think there's a hatred because 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.959 that's a nasty word use. I think there's just competition, 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:47.240 and I love competition. 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.880 But definitely. 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.920 Listening to hater straight up or just straight up? Yeah, 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:57.880 is this the same to be a hater to just 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:02.120 can't I told you I wasn't gonna die. Not He's 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.520 just set me up, but we're not going to die. 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.840 Questions like he's in a tough position man. 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.440 Because it's like he can't hide it at this point. 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.120 Like I believe he's been a hater like like in 0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.320 in a way because he thought he was the best. 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.400 He thinks he's the best, and in a lot of ways. 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:20.400 He is right. You said I was the greatest one, 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:25.080 you introduced me. Now you flip flopping what I'm saying, 0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:27.680 get him some more. Got a problem? 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:33.080 So let me let me ask you from your perspective, 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.000 from what you see, what you see, and what you 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.640 dealt with on your own, you believe Elliot Wilson's a 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:38.360 hater straight up. 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.959 I think he got hate in his blood. I mean 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.239 Wilson came from shocking me about him. Yeah, but but 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.920 I think it comes from his competitive nature. I think. 0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.760 I think it's him wanting to be the best at 0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.200 at at every single moment. And I'm not so ain't 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.360 nothing that I haven't sold him personally. I think at 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.760 times he'll step on other people's moments, like sometimes it's 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.320 just not your it's not your day, it's not your week, 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:13.000 it's not your month, And he'll step on other people's moments. 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.480 But that's his competitive drive, like he don't give a 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.480 fuck about nothing but this, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:22.040 I think it was competitive when he was winning. It 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:23.600 doesn't seem competitive. 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.240 When you lose. It when you're losing and you hate it. 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:26.520 But is he really losing? 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.520 I mean not losing. You're just not out there. You're 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.280 not out there. I mean, I'm about he's gone. 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:36.040 He has the bigger picture shout the DJ head Jeremy Hack, 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:37.360 so he's out there every week. 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.680 It's just he's not getting the No I see it. 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:46.400 I got TV. It's not on TV, you know what 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.200 I mean. Instagram is TV. I don't see it on 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:49.640 the ground. 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.040 He's just not getting I don't think artists are doing 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:56.240 interviews anyway. I'm saying, like our own ship and and 0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:01.120 and it's so like, yes, here's the thing even outside 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.720 of laugh well, here's the thing that that that I 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.680 don't know that people maybe he doesn't understand or maybe 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.480 just hasn't articulated in that way. There are a few 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.160 of us who are fans of good journalism, right, yes, yeah, 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:15.640 but that's niche. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:16.320 Okay. 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.040 Everybody who bought the source double XL Vibe back in 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.000 the day, it wasn't because they was fans of journalism. 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.240 It was because they favorite rapper was on the cover. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.480 It just so happened. You got good articles, you got 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.280 good information, you got good whatever. 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.800 Cars right, He's right righting for them back then. 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.600 Yeah, yeah, so but that's where everybody went. If you 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.400 wanted to see your favorite rapper, you went to double 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.200 XL Vibe Source or you turn on Rap. 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.840 City, but a few places. But could it be because 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.360 we just took it for granted? It was always there. 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.680 Journalism was there. Now it's not there. So the generation 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.080 I doesn't even know what it was. But what I'm 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.960 what I'm saying is YouTube is very important. 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.360 And you you you may be different because it's niche, 0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.240 But the millions of people every month that was mining 0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.120 that magazine. Think of a fuck about good journalism. It 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.000 was because fifty was on the coming fifty my favorite 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.560 rout That's what, so they had the attention. 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.000 Magazines are roused on that pace because for that reason 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.520 I advertised what. 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.719 You advatise there now because because they don't have the 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.680 market ship, they don't have the large audience. 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:18.160 You know who has that. 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.760 Audience right yea streamers. 0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.560 So when they see the media, Drake go to Aiden 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.239 ross or or Nikki go to Consannat. 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:30.359 And there's no shade. 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.759 The constanat is not because they're going there for a 0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:33.320 good interview. 0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.760 It's not because they're going there to have fun. 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:40.240 But it's because they have the most I have the audience, 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.839 and I want to get my message across. I'm going 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.200 to the biggest audience. You know what, I want to 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.920 give a fuck about journalism. It was a small it's niche. 0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.400 You know what I call it now media attainment like 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.239 it's media but entertainment, Like it's more entertaining than like 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.879 having to deliver like a class. 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:55.920 Journalism, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.320 But that still exists, and that should that that should 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:00.480 still be a world for that. 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.520 I think it's dangerous not to have real journeysm But 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.319 but like like you were saying, and I agree, but 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.879 this is a problem bigger than hip hop. Look look 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.600 at what's going on. And first of all, the political 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.600 arena is way worse. Look if you look what Elon 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.320 is saying on every day see that. Look, you know 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:25.480 you're just turning waiting on fast forward the time. 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.640 But if you look at what Elon is talking about, 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.520 Elon is telling yo, Elon is saying every day on Twitter, 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.560 there's no more media. You guys are the media. They're 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.680 dismantling media. They're trying to discredit CNN, They're trying to 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.279 discredit all this legacy media and and and put it 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.960 in the hands of the people. And while I believe 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.879 in democracy, do you see the crazy ship that's going 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.919 on on Twitter? You see the fucking idiots on Twitter ship? 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.719 Yeah you social media? Yeah, but it's fucking dumb. But 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.239 media dismantled itself too, like. 0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:03.200 Giving into greed is advertisers. It became a statement. 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.439 I was watching something and they just said that I'm 0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.799 not into this political stuff. But I just saw that 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.279 where Zuckerberg just put yeah, what's his name, Dan know White? 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.719 You know white as on board of Mecada. I don't 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.040 know why. 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.359 You know why because he wants to get into good 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.920 graces with who mister Trump. He is because because like 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.800 this and to get to Trump, you gotta get you. 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.840 I have to be cool with Elon. 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:33.960 Yeah, they want to break up Facebook. They want to 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:34.440 break it up. 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.759 So now they have all these lawsuits as you know, 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:37.840 whatever I do. 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:38.800 That's what TikTok. 0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.480 Right, No, no, no, no, But the whole thing about TikTok 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.359 is now no. 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.400 But they're trying to buy it, to sell it. 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:46.920 They want to buy it. 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.200 But they got in Trump's good favor. Now he's coming 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:49.759 back to it. 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.399 The guy, I forget his name, I know he's out 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.279 there trying to buy. The guy from Shark, Kevin O'Leary, Okay, Kevin, 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.360 he's trying to buy it by TikTok. He's trying to 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:58.480 buy TikTok because they want it. 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:02.400 They want the servers could be the United States. The 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.320 servers are not here because that's what the fun is 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.319 going on. But my daughters are sitting there. I'm gonna 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.080 get the fuck off the phones. I literally have to 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.760 take these ships and just fucking. 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:13.799 Even bigger than that. 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.680 If six Hot gets sold to o'liary and and Dana 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:22.440 White on the board face and oli campaign right, Larry 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:28.000 Dane's trying to call they're trying to call campaign on 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:32.360 South African but he running ship right. So now the Trump, 0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.720 the Republicans and and basically the Trump regime imagine control. 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.480 Trump's whole thing has been like, fuck, media, watch what 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:40.240 I do to y'all. 0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.520 CNN did me wrong? This one didn't watch what I 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:43.080 do to y'all. 0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:50.480 And now he send potentially he controls through elon Twitter 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:55.200 or ax or whatever Instagram, through through Zuckerberg and Dana 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.080 White and and O'Leary and and sixshot. What does that 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:02.520 look like? Yeah, so it's bigger than I just think. 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.880 They just want everybody to have a fair, you know, 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.400 fair fair chance to speak their mind, to speak their truth. 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:12.319 You know, because even even Zuckerberg admitted twenty sixteen he 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:17.080 fucking blacklisted and didn't allow any of Trump's stuff to 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.680 go on that's platform. 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.319 He said it, He literally said it. That's why. 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.920 Yeah, the media did it to themselves. And now it's it's. 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.600 Because has been honest, as they called it meta, I 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.480 don't know, they ain't been the same they ain't been 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.799 the same since the name change. 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.120 I mean they're doing things on Instagram now where they 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.160 they on Instagram right? Meta? 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.160 Yeah, AI accounts like they look like real people. They 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.200 put up AI pitches, they like, like, why. 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:46.600 Do we need that? 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.279 How many millions of people on Instagram don't I don't 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.680 need to interact with I want more human interaction. I 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.439 don't need AI friends, like, you know what I'm saying, 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.920 Like it just kind of questions like what and AI 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:07.040 that monetizes itself they also want. Nigga said, Mega you 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:08.719 the only one Mega. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.360 Mega. 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.719 But so it's way bigger than hip hop when you 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.919 talk about what's going on in the media, is going 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.160 on in media across the board, and and we're gonna 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.439 have to learn learn with that, you know what I'm saying. 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.759 For me, I'm gonna take the slow road. I did 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.680 my YouTube channel, man, I do my videos. I try 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.359 to respond to every single comment, as long as it's 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.000 not like some supertrol ship, Like I'm trying to build 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.080 community of real people. And you know, I might not 0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:45.840 have the viewership of a drink chance what you know 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:46.399 I did. 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:47.440 I just started my shit. 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:48.880 It wasn't even for a four year, I got two 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:53.400 point two million views. I've seen it eight months, and 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.080 I respond to every fucking comment, you know what I'm saying, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.600 and and reach out to every person. 0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:58.960 Like that's the way I'm gonna have to build it. 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.600 Like, and what you get more act you're on your 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.520 Instagram or your YouTube YouTube YouTube on Instagram? 0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.960 Wow, I mean you're using your Instagram to drive to YouTube. Yeah, 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.480 focus to the longer version is on the YouTube. 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.520 Yeah, what I actually do is probably a dumb way 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.680 to do it. I don't want my Instagram audience to 0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.400 feel like they're getting clips from YouTube. 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.400 I gotta do a competitive advantage. 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.800 So I shoot a long form thing of me talking 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.560 on YouTube, and I'll shoot a separate video like a 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.120 Instagram where I just like trunk added, let me just 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.080 give you the ninety second version of what I said. 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.640 Let's do it the court at ten more work. It's 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.799 definitely more work. And I'm editing to myself. I'm doing 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.960 all this myself. It's definitely more work, but I'm like, 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.600 I just want I want to feel present. My competitive 0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.799 advantage is like, Yo, you're going to feel like you're 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.840 talking to me. You're gonna feel like like when you 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.280 get in an opinion from me, whether you agree or disagree, 0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:52.759 you know that it's the real me. 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.520 It's reliable what I'm saying, it's reliable. And also you're 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.439 doing the comic book stuff to you that's just out 0:40:58.440 --> 0:40:59.760 of love, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:00.920 Right now? 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:07.320 What was the name of the company before? Gabel? 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:07.759 Right? 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.439 Okay, now it's Nova. What's going on? 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:17.319 Yeah? Win your separate ways separate Okay, Okay, that's it. 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.239 Nothing. Yeah, you ain't got. 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:23.680 Yeah this. 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:25.399 Track? 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:27.520 You know what what? 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:27.839 Never? 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.520 It's like you and it's like you and. 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:37.000 Would about but you could explain without happened. 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.600 It's like it's like he said, two different you know, 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.120 and you know, two different opinions on everything. I'm young 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.480 and you know the older you know, older, you know, 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.480 whole older person. You know. I just I think I 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.799 feel like I'm just getting in my prime. I feel 0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.720 like just getting it. You know, I was always away boomer, 0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.640 you know, growing up as a kid. You know, I 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.239 feel like I'm I'm I'm. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.000 Ready to function up right now. I feel it, you know. 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:04.280 So what's the plans with Nova? 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:05.399 Uh? 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:06.800 Miami? Okay? 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.480 Stores coming? Okay, a couple of months oh yeah here. Yeah, 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.719 just a lot of a lot of things happen. I 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:15.239 can't really you know, Okay, there's a lot of good 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:16.760 a lot of good stuff happening. 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.400 Okay, okay, nice. 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.880 And what we got going next for me is it 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.399 is just continuing to build this YouTube that I got 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:30.200 rob marking on YouTube. I'm gonna start adding interviews in 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.440 the mix, but again I'm not it's not gonna be 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.480 any interview based. Yeah, I mean, it's not interviews based. 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.320 It's like special interviews. Like it's going like a barble 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:40.440 water special light. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.120 Just keep it on against whatever you feel for that week, 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:44.160 you know what I mean, That's what. 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.319 It's just what I think, whatever I feel like doing. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.360 And then you know, music still I'm putting out just 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.160 put out a project at the end of December called 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.520 will Never be This Young Again and won't independently that's 0:42:59.560 --> 0:42:59.839 my thing. 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:01.200 To me, it was a universal truth. 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:02.759 It was like because I put it out on my 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.879 birthday December thirty, and I'm like, man, if you eight 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.360 or if you eighty, but you will never be this 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.319 young again. So it's just a reminder that like, live 0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.080 life to the fullest. And I really came up with 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:19.200 that concept after we lost Hovan Hillton, my brother. Man, 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.319 like that was just sudden. Nobody seen that coming. It 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.160 was like one minute he was here, the next minute 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.879 he wasn't here, and he was a managed you right, yeah, 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:33.600 he started He started me off, man like, I didn't 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:34.960 think I could do it. I didn't think people was 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.919 going to accept me coming from journalism and then doing 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.320 the raps, you know. And I was on the Breakfast 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.600 Club one time and Charlamagne kind of did me to 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.439 kick a freestyle and I did it and they. 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:47.920 Was like, no, that shit was kind of hot, like 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.000 you be rapping for real. 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.120 And so when I came out the interview, Havaine was like, yo, 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.120 you know, we could put a record out right, And 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.319 then he hooked me up with Gayzi and Nima. We 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.839 put out my first project, Right to Dream, And so 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.000 Havan was the one that showed me it was possible 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.080 because I was like, man, like, they're not gonna sign, 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:05.520 They're gonna advance me and they gonna sign. 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:06.640 I don't even got a record. 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.000 And he was like watch this and Havain put it together, 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.839 God bless him, and so he showed me it was real, 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.919 and you know, so So when when he was gone, 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.120 I kind of like, you know, it hit me for 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.560 a second, but it was like, man, would never be 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.480 this young man. You gotta you gotta live each day 0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.759 like it's you gotta do everything that you ever wanted 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.319 to do. He was an amazing dude. 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:26.480 Man. 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:30.640 And you can't find nobody to say nothing crazy. 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:33.480 Even even the people who who. 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.719 Who may talk crazy about him when when he was here, 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.840 that just stopped when he was because it was sobering 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.919 because people saw what was real. Nah, you know what 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.600 I was tripping. If you had a problem with Havain, 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:45.920 you were the problem. 0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:46.919 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.720 Giving people they flowers, We wanted to give y'all both 0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.880 flowers something positive. 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:05.960 You can drink them. I don't watch this show. 0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.239 I watched so many episodes of Drink Champs to seeing 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:09.480 everybody get their flowers. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.920 Man, this is crazy. It's beautiful. 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.920 So it's Jacob to Judah, the greatest hip hop Juwelah 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.480 that came from hip hop. Build his name from hip 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.719 hop up all time as of now. 0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:32.040 No, he's not ain't still gold doesn't matter. 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:33.800 It all started with Tito. 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:39.880 Tito. Every time to see you think I said they 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:41.000 had colic of jewelry. 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:45.040 No Tito tricks, come on, said nobody. 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:46.680 I'm with you, don't. 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.120 Yes, Jacob, but he had a long guess he was like, 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.759 that's like comparing Big to Jay, Right, we'll all due 0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:54.560 expect the big. 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.319 You can't because they just had a long career because 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:57.959 they kept going. 0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.719 Now, biggest impact, you could argue bigs impact, but all reality, 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.080 BIG's not here, but Big was. I'm trying to say, Jacob, 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.200 but you're talking about Tito. 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:07.160 Tito's not here. 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.520 He's the biggie kind of Jewry and Jacob definitely, And. 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:18.440 Jacob was like, one's the pioneer and once and. 0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.080 He's still Jacob Jacob. 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.040 In my opinion, you guys put them on right one 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.000 hundred million percent. 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:26.360 Uh. 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:30.160 I don't know if he feels this way, but I 0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.680 don't know what. This is my opinion, and I believe 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.839 this is everyone's opinion. If it wasn't for hip hop, 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:35.759 but he wouldn't be where he is today. 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:40.200 Absolutely hip hop count He can't socker. Now, Yeah, it's 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.759 Ferrari's I. 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.080 Got I got a question. You just kind of spat 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.239 something in my mind. If I may, please please come 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:52.600 on you hear ask questions, but you just said, like, 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:54.719 if it wasn't for hip hop, you know, of course 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.759 I wouldn't be here either, right, That's what that's my 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.279 bigger question about here. What what did hip hop do 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.680 for just the Drury game? I mean, obviously Drury is 0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:05.799 Drury King's queen. Like it's always a big market in 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.120 a huge market. But it wasn't good cost do for 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:12.719 the jewelers and the jewelry game and andes. 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:13.320 Uh it did a lot. 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:13.960 Uh. 0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:15.520 I love the hip hop game. 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:20.280 Sometimes it's a nasty game, you know, as far as uh, 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.560 you know, people owe you money and this and that, 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.880 all the bullshit the politics. But at the end of 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.000 the day, if it wasn't for hip hop, if it 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:28.680 wasn't for hip hop, if it wasn't for. 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:33.000 This, these jewelers where we meet, all these. 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.000 Other guys, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing Instagram 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.520 flashing and their cribs and have they better give up hop, 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.840 they better give respect, they give their flowers themselves to 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:45.520 hip Hoperstand when I hear they say, oh, they didn't 0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:46.920 do nothing for me, I did it myself. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:47.640 The fuck it. 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:51.680 You didn't do nothing like who like they calling you hey, 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.040 like you call me, do this for me? 0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:55.360 You know, they calling you know, do this this for me? 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.560 Because at the end of the day, back in you 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.000 know those days, the kings, the queens, how they wear 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:01.480 their wealth. 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:04.520 They wear their wealth jewelry. 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:06.080 That's how they were their wealth. 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.239 So if it wasn't for hip hop, I give my 0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.360 take my hat off for hip hop, because I wouldn't 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:13.120 be where I am today. 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:14.040 I wouldn't have. 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:18.160 I wouldn't. 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.279 I wouldn't. I wouldn't because from the hip hop. You 0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.600 gotta understand, then it goes to the ballplayers. From the 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.239 ball players, then it goes to then it goes to 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.040 the corporate. Then he goes here, then it goes there, 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:29.799 then it goes there, it goes on and on. 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:31.200 But where the fuck it started from. 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.359 You started from over there, So don't forget about over 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:37.040 here over there. And that's one thing about Joe Crack, 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.880 what he did, what he said to me ninety years ago, 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.319 when I was twenty years old, when I got him, 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.239 when I when he heard about me, and when I 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.240 met him at Angie's video shoot. 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:49.160 And I still have a picture. 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:49.480 I don't know. 0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:50.920 I'll send it to you after we get done here 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.000 while I'm holding up the ts that I made for him. 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.880 Young motherfucking Gabe, Skinny is pup pick and he's you know, 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.919 Joe crack not like you know, he lost all away. 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.480 He's just Joe now yeah, yeah. 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:05.560 Yeah, so now it's uh. He told me one thing. 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:09.200 We were at Jimmy's Uptown, yeah, on fifty seventh Street, 0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.480 and he's like, he's sitting down at the long you know, remember. 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:12.680 That long term. 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.799 Yeah, he's sitting he was sitting down and he's sitting here. 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:18.320 I'm sitting here and say less now yeah, and he's saying, 0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:19.920 he's telling me, yo, g let me tell you something. 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.239 He's like, one thing I know about you. If I'm 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.520 with you, I'm not with you. You're gonna make it. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:27.000 Bro. 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.480 I was twenty year old, was a fucking retard, you know, 0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:31.000 unders saying I was just getting my feet. Well, I 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.279 didn't understand what I was doing, but I don't know 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:36.760 the graces of God, you know that helped. 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:40.120 Me navigate through everything. It was fucking wolves in New York. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.560 Yeah, doing what I was here at that time, at 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.719 that time, right, I would have gotten eating up real quick, 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:47.840 you know, But I had certain people around me that 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:49.839 you know, just kept everybody at day yo. 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.400 But the young boy heard him do his thing, and 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.879 I was gunning me, and you know. 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:59.440 Jacob okay wa ain't finished finish? Is Jacob the greatest 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:01.319 Juli I wanted to do? 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:02.919 He said? 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.960 He said, I said, I definite defindited that my jewlry 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:09.680 the greatest hip hop jeweler. 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:15.279 Yes, hip hop jeweler. Say your standing on it. 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.120 If you just said right on it didn't listen to 0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.400 I cannot say just yes because you're taking the jewels, 0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:23.239 not doing that. 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.800 He's doing his thing with the watchers. 0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:31.640 Saying, it's still technically making jury's making no, no, no, 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:32.680 it's still making. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:41.359 Hat watch because let the jewelers say that. 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:46.520 Please, what are you doing? Okay, how much jewelry do 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:46.799 you have? 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:53.240 Jewelry metals, metal, watches, precious metal, it's made with precious metal. 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:57.040 But there's a movement, yes, yes, there's a name. Yes, 0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.719 so these are separate. But he's still doing jewelry on 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.520 the second. Okay, cool, I love it. 0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:04.000 I love it. 0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:09.279 You know what I meant? 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.319 Every time all my interviews back then, I usually say yeah, yeah, 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.879 but now I'm all up a second, bro, okay, like, yes, 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:17.640 he's doing this thing with his watchers. Not he's saying 0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:20.640 anything about that, you understand, Like, yeah, we all mimicked 0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:24.120 or tried to follow that lane, you know, because he 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:28.520 was him right me right then it was a couple 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.640 of other people are all the other and I was 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.320 like fucking twenty million people trying to do it. He's 0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:37.040 he's done thirty years ago, right, so I can speak 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:37.279 to it. 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:38.839 Because I used to be literally of course the street 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:39.160 from him. 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.680 Okay, okay, so jewelry wise back then, back then, yes, 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.759 he was doing his thing one hundred. 0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.480 Percent, did he didn't he one hundred percent make the 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.560 Jesus peace like that was him, one hundred percent. 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.239 The first person to make the Jesus piece. 0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:53.520 Yes, the first person to. 0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:56.200 That couldn't have been him. 0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:57.120 It was not him. 0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.800 It was big big It was big for him to 0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:01.919 make right, It was big. It was a big big 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.240 who got him to make it. It was big biggers 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:07.000 doing to put on with the Cuban. Yeah, but yes 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:07.960 they could know. 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.160 It's not like he like, there's the one who he 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:15.120 didn't invent it invented it was big idea. 0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:15.720 It was correct. 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:22.080 No, that was some hip hop ship. 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.279 That I had hit New Ports, but I hit the 0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:27.160 first jury who put the diamonds in it. 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:29.759 Okay, it was I would see it was. 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.719 It was even gun boxing being a mustache. It was big. 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.920 It's a big idea. Jacob just put it together. Okay. 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:39.160 It's like architect. Okay, architect. You need an architect to 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.160 build a house. You need constructions stuff like if. 0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.520 You start building other lego pieces. I built this ship, 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:47.839 that's right, Okay. I like the staff. I like I said, 0:52:47.880 --> 0:52:50.960 I'm the architect. I'm the architect. But I tell my 0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:52.080 gods Google sent it. 0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:58.000 You know Jesus. I'm gonna argue now. 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.440 Now my Jesus pieces, my Jesus pieces that I created 0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:06.520 back in twenty fourteen with Travis and Travis back then 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.680 collab what he was going to do something with Jacob. 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.040 He told me. I was like, no, we're going to 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.799 do our own thing. I can't. 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.640 I can't with the design that ship was crazy. I 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.520 patented that motherfuck a different design of Jesus. You can 0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:19.280 p these designs. 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.560 I patent my I patented my Jesus. 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:25.520 Where some some of the you know, clown ass Jews 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:26.640 just copied the ship. 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.480 They got they got sued. They definitely got sued. Absolutely, 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.960 So they have to, you know, cease and. 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.040 Desist real quick because at the end of the day, 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:35.800 that's what I've learned. 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.799 I've learned that if I make something I have to be. 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:42.360 For life. 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:43.960 I can't. 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:48.120 So I took the design of my crown. It's called 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.520 the crown, It's called crown the King. That's the name 0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:55.080 of my Jesus design. So it's the halo is my 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.040 whole concept, and a certain way the hair is growing 0:53:58.120 --> 0:53:59.360 on the on the Jesus. 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:04.000 That's what made the patent and the trademark like. 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.160 Feasible went through. It went through because of that reason. 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.600 But now that was that was her uniqueness of it. 0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:12.439 I can't just take a Jesus head and say, okay, 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:13.080 I want to do this. 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:14.840 No, what is the unique part of it? 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.760 I might was the crown that it was very unique. 0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:20.520 Now everybody trying to make a little bit small, a 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.320 little bit bigger. Now, bro, it's not happening. Because I 0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.480 went from zero to one hundred. 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:30.200 I got patent on all sizes from. 0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:31.439 That design, just letting it out. 0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:34.320 There for all the Jewish ranks. Don't you know, get yourself, 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.080 you know in the lawsuits. 0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:41.560 This famous uh clip on the internet with Dame Dash 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:42.839 walks into that. 0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:44.240 Was my family, my cousins. 0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.080 You see me, my cousin Ivy, my cousin Joe, my 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:48.760 cousin Izzy. 0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:55.759 Here's an Ivy killer cam. 0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:59.520 You know, he wasn't really fucking with those guys over there. 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.680 He's working with us, because all right, they're very good. 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:04.040 Big Joe, you know, Big Joe. 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:07.080 Big Joe was like bringing bringing him to us, you 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.400 know at that point, you know, to our family at 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:10.799 that time. 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.080 And and he was like, yo, just make this ship 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:13.360 for me. 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:15.359 And my cousin Ivy was like, yo, you're sure, because 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:16.880 I don't know if I could do this that ship. 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.560 Is that guy over there? Say, now, bro, you do it? 0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:19.640 I want you should have done with you? 0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:22.080 Who does the original rocks Jacob? 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:24.680 Yes, okay, let him do it. So then all right, 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:25.680 so then we did it. 0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:32.160 You know, no, no, no, no, I don't know. 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:35.960 I know you work, so I haven't seen that man, 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:36.799 know your work. 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.000 The Dame comes up in there and just with his 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.520 craziness and you know what it does. 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.440 But I feel like, like you said earlier before, like 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.560 you and Pharrell and you were at the hottest at 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.839 your you know, you were, you were the guy. And 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.759 I feel like, because you know, I'm very I'm in 0:55:53.760 --> 0:55:55.040 a different journeys in my life right now. 0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.319 I'm more spiritual, you know. 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.920 I'm because I'm Jewish, you know, come wasn't more much 0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.440 more mature and more you know, into studying, you know, reading. 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.560 So I'm like, it's you or where you are today 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.400 is because of how you helped others, right, And I 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.240 believe God, you know, same with Pecks. 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:13.160 He bring me those earrings back look. 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.560 Where he's at, Like God, favor for favor, fie for 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:16.919 an eye. 0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:18.560 You do good, you get good, you do good, you 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.720 get you your dirty motherfucker. You're gonna get dirty motherfucker 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:23.360 to understand. 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:27.319 So I honestly feel like like you said earlier with 0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:29.719 you and uh and the and the Neptunes. 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:33.600 You know, but is that a sacred between Julus, Like 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.919 let's talk about y'all side of it, just y'all making 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.640 it was was y'a out of line for that because 0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:43.120 y'all know, like it's like, all right, cool, this was 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.239 a line to Jacob. Let's suppose I supposed to us right, 0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.960 we made the drink chance piece right, And I suppose 0:56:49.160 --> 0:56:52.440 everybody in the cool got drink chance pieces and then 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.919 it started to catch on another Jewela does a drink 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:56.479 champ piece. 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.560 Is that a violation in between Julius. 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:03.160 Between you and your crew, that's your problem? 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.719 No, no, no, no no, I'm just saying, hold on you. 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.719 I don't think you understand I'm saying. I'm saying that 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:09.640 we all got the drink chance pieces right where we 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.960 got them from you, and then another jeweler starts making 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:14.600 it for for people that's. 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.439 Not in our crew. Is that a violation amongst. 0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:21.400 Jelas he just starts making them for no reason from 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:22.120 your crew, weren't there? 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:27.240 Yeah, like the actual publican like put it like this. 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.160 At first, Wu Tang was the logo was so small. 0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:32.520 I'm sure they had one Judlah that only made the 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:35.560 Wu Tang, But then it got too big, like you know, 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.720 and other Julius started making that's already. 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.760 That's a that's a that's a flag. Yeah, that's a 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:41.880 copyright and that's. 0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.360 And that's the jeweler just trying to get some credibility 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:45.520 for what you know they're doing. 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:47.200 But again, if. 0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.040 From jeweler to jeweler, is that a violation. 0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.160 If nobody came to the jeweler, if nobody came to 0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:54.000 the guy and said, you'll make this for me out 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:55.520 of your crew, right. 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.280 Then he's violation. He's in violation coming out of nowhere 0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:58.600 and gas. 0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.240 But if somebody came to him him from your crew, 0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.960 but from Jay's crew, from Dame's crew, and said, yo, 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.760 make the ship o the jewelus, that's not all farm. 0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:08.960 That's your fucking problem. 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:11.000 I don't know your crew. 0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:11.880 You're dealing with the ship. 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:13.680 I'm a Julius. We tell Son the all the time. 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:17.360 Stop doing that. 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:19.760 That's what that's the misconception that everybody gets like we 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:21.919 do the ship, like we don't do this just because 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:23.800 we want to do it. Some jewelers are dirty and 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:27.920 just just do the ship. That's foul, that's crazy. But 0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.280 we don't know what goes on in their head. Listen, 0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.400 it's free world. It's a free markets capitalism. 0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:33.560 Love it. Do your thing. 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.440 Because my my first piece that I was gonna do 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.160 before this this was I was very very close to 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.920 the asking was a shot glass that I could take 0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:44.600 off the chaining. 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:50.320 You know what I would have talked to that would 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:55.959 have been exactly that was what I said. That would 0:58:55.960 --> 0:59:00.560 have been like when you go with the new. 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.120 Port, but that old white lady in your buildings looked 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:06.320 at you, she would have been of course he did 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:11.200 my seconds out of the The second idea was trying. 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:11.600 To get me drunk. 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:12.919 Make it because you're trying to get me drunk. 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:17.360 Yeah, this is make a clear grenade. Is a clear 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:21.760 grenade drinking it. This is another idea. 0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.120 Was to make a clear grenade a clear guy. 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:29.080 I have the videos of it, but in order to get. 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.000 Green bud in it. And then I was like, did 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:37.440 that's that's almost better? Yeah, it won't be different. 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:43.400 Old fan of weed and people don't get the jewelry. 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.000 But that had been the case that it came into. 0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:46.840 Hold on, I might have to cut this out. 0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:48.520 Yeah, yeah you go. 0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:51.480 Snood Dog makes own jewel you've seen that taste like 0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:52.959 little Guys. 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.360 Had a football player come into the office last week. 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:57.560 Yeah, he comes to me. 0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:59.760 He's very known football player. We're not going to mention me. 1:00:00.440 --> 1:00:01.800 He said, Yo, gee, I've been looking for. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.400 You, bob By. Somebody told me what you were Tonio Brow. 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:08.320 No, I'm just funing. I'm absolutely no. 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:09.920 My boy, I've done a lot of things for him 1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:10.880 back in the days. Whatever. 1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:13.520 Bro, He's like, yo, I wanted to get a custom piece. 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:13.720 Mate. 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.320 I'm like looking at him and listen, I'm not these 1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:17.120 kind of jewelers. 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.080 I'm not going to oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, listen. 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.120 We make good money on custom stuff certain times depending 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:24.400 on you know this custom. Ain'tybody else wearing the ship 1:00:24.440 --> 1:00:26.680 but you. I'm I'm like, bro, why you want to 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:30.040 do this? You're not young anymore. I'm hitting him with 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.120 the truth because that's how I am. 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:32.919 I just a good heart. 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:34.440 I got to do that. 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:37.280 Say bro, just stick with the watches and stop with this. 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.440 You're not twenty two years old, twenty three years old, 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.880 twenty four year old where you're gonna have four five contracts, 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.520 three contracts, but you're good for one more maybe. 1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:47.200 Right, So stop there. You're a financial advisor as well, yes, 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:48.320 because you just solved it. 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:50.600 To him and I'm not gonna do that, right, I'm not. 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:51.200 I'm not. 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:52.880 But you didn't give know of this speech though, oh 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:54.920 you know money. 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:59.520 Well, he knows I can't. 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.320 Come. We're gonna do that. I talked them out of 1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:02.800 the grenade. 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:07.920 I talked about two years old you want to, I 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:09.280 wouldn't be talking out of this one. 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:20.600 Atlas even if I had it iced out. 1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:20.040 Damn. 1:01:21.040 --> 1:01:23.600 My whole thing was like, yes, it's about getting money 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:25.800 and yeah, but at the end of the. 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:27.280 Day, you gotta have some sort of integrity. 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:29.680 You have to have some sort of respect for yourself 1:01:30.000 --> 1:01:32.840 and for your clientele. That's how I survived. I believe 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:34.720 this long. You know, first of us to do the 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:37.880 God graces. You know, God is great number one first 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:40.000 and foremost. Second, I believe that you have to be 1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:45.560 straight shooter. If there's something that they don't need it 1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:49.520 and there are a certain bracken age for what bro 1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:52.360 do this instead of doing that, because when you come 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:54.560 back to me, when you come back to me, I 1:01:54.600 --> 1:01:56.680 can give you money for this, because. 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:57.440 It's always money. 1:01:58.320 --> 1:01:59.720 Hold out value this. 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:03.160 I'm gonna try you a dollar. I'm gonna give twenty 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:03.520 five cents. 1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:05.320 Later, you're gonna look at me crazy. 1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:07.560 You're gonna look at me crazy. 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:10.320 That's why now you actually, this is a question. 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:13.520 Do you think that hip hop propped up the grey market? Then, 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:14.600 by what you're saying. 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:19.880 Right now, absolutely hip hop did hip hop. Listen, all 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:24.440 the designers clothing starting from clothing. 1:02:24.040 --> 1:02:27.560 Shoes, all the way on jewelry. It's all hip hop. 1:02:27.760 --> 1:02:31.439 Hip Hop has went from being hip hop to now 1:02:31.480 --> 1:02:33.040 being front and center. 1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:34.440 Right right right. 1:02:34.920 --> 1:02:37.120 Look at all the fashion shows. Listen, I'm not a 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:40.800 fashion here or whatever. Look at all the fucking fashion shows. 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:43.800 Who you got over there? You got Look at the front. 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:46.960 Row like that never used to be like that. 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:50.320 You got fucking front right, front row, everybody in that 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:51.360 you you got. 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:53.200 How much of a big you got fucking Pharrell, you 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:54.160 got fucking. 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:58.080 But how much of a big The other was just 1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:01.920 for little Kim to be seen with in the ninety. 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:03.320 A big deal, big deal. 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:05.440 It was a big deal for for for for like 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:07.160 us to be embraced. 1:03:07.240 --> 1:03:07.880 I love hip hop. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:11.720 Hit made me what I am today, made my family 1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:12.920 gave me what I have. 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:16.160 Thank God. If it was a hip hop, we wouldn't 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:19.160 be here. I wouldn't be God, I. 1:03:19.320 --> 1:03:22.880 Can't, I can't see if I'm wearing what I'm wearing now. 1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:25.480 With this, I will always you know, represent anywhere I go. 1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.240 Hip Hop made me period. Yeah, my mom and dad, 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:32.320 god whatever, but hip hop financially understand put you know, 1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:33.520 put me on the platform. 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:36.640 Was hip hop. I hustled my ass off and where 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:38.560 I am today is but it was hip hop, you know. 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.560 But going back to what you said about customization, when 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:43.920 the guy wanted the football player wanted the piece, and 1:03:43.920 --> 1:03:46.040 you're dissuading from doing it because. 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:47.000 You said, if I buy it back. 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:49.040 It's not gonna be at the same ringle is the 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.880 value only to the person buying it because of them 1:03:52.000 --> 1:03:54.800 is not really folding his values logo. 1:03:54.880 --> 1:03:57.000 This is my logo, like this is my little It's 1:03:57.200 --> 1:04:00.160 valuable to me. This holds I. 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:01.960 Think people need to know that because they'll look at 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:02.680 everything shining. 1:04:02.680 --> 1:04:06.000 But it holds value for me because this is my name. 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:12.400 That's his name, his logo. You understand, like it holds 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:15.080 value to you. But if God forbid, you fucked up, 1:04:15.120 --> 1:04:17.520 God forbid. Yeah, you can sell it, but it's not 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.720 it's not going to hold it stop because when beholder. 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:22.840 Like a painted and unless it becomes a classic piece 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:24.280 off his. 1:04:24.240 --> 1:04:29.440 Jewel seen on you know, like like the same thing 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:32.120 but also his whole collection. Right, Yeah, like Jay Balden 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:34.080 did the same thing. When I sold Jay Balvin. 1:04:33.840 --> 1:04:35.600 His his would take the. 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:39.360 Six million and five and six million dollars watch that. 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:40.120 Richard mill. 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:44.960 Watch this, this the the the the sapphire. It was 1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:48.080 one in the world piece, unique, one in the world piece. 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:51.800 Understand honestly believe if he auctions that off you know. 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:52.919 Wait wait wait said that again. 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.600 The sapphire with washing, the blue one that looked. 1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:57.360 Like whole one old one. You sold him now I 1:04:57.360 --> 1:04:57.720 saw him. 1:04:57.840 --> 1:05:01.560 Oh wow, right after the whole little babe situation. Right right, Okay, 1:05:02.160 --> 1:05:02.800 I'm answering that. 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:07.920 Okay, shut up, my man, No one time, Twizz Twizz 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:10.440 the jeweler man, because he made my piece. I know 1:05:10.440 --> 1:05:13.520 we talked about Okay, but this shoul't mean the world 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:13.680 to me. 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:14.320 You know what I'm saying. 1:05:16.000 --> 1:05:18.600 What I'm saying, it's it's it means something. 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:21.400 To you, yours, it's unique to you. 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:23.240 If you want to sell it, you're gonna lose what. 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:25.200 You're gonna You're gonna lose labor because that's what we 1:05:25.240 --> 1:05:27.840 paid for labor estime plus whatever gold value is. 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:29.920 Just then there's there's a chart for that. There's a 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:30.760 gold price for that. 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:33.840 So it depends on what the jeweler makes profit with 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:36.160 margin wise, that's what it comes down to. 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:37.000 At the end of the day. 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:43.040 I can tell you my favorite watch honestly is a 1:05:43.040 --> 1:05:46.320 protect I have a fifty nine eighty. I love that watch. 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:50.040 I feel like it's it's the way they made it. 1:05:50.040 --> 1:05:53.360 It fits. Just it hugs your wrist. It's insane. It's 1:05:53.360 --> 1:05:55.760 just the way it hugs your wrist is literally bananas. Honestly, 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:59.120 rose gold and a stainles steel. The way they just 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:01.640 hug your wrist, the way they made it is unbelievable. 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:07.480 Now they came out with that cube. I know this 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:10.720 one has it the cue of the protect, the protect. Yeah, 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:13.480 first one in America. First, we don't know, don't say, 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:14.800 just say like I have it. 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:15.480 You know, I was the. 1:06:15.440 --> 1:06:18.360 First one in America. Okay, it could be proven. 1:06:18.440 --> 1:06:20.280 I'm sorry, but obviously it could be proved. 1:06:21.240 --> 1:06:24.520 This is my beion was his name, Marcus Warburg, my man, 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:29.000 I'm sorry and whole yeah yeah, beat, yeah, yeah, it's over. 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.480 Excuse me, not past the Tiffany stamp. 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:33.760 Still don't matter. I have the first Cuba of this, 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:34.560 Yes is. 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:38.080 His the cub of this? 1:06:38.240 --> 1:06:38.360 Yes? 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:40.040 Okay, okay, I was the first one in the Cuban. 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:42.320 But my opinion, my. 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:46.600 Opinion, and I believe this is a lot of Jews. 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:49.640 After twenty six years of the Nautilus. 1:06:50.320 --> 1:06:53.040 What the fuck is that? Yeah, but but it looks 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:55.120 like a fucking but the thing about it somethings. But 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:57.840 the thing about it, you can't say that to watch collectors. 1:06:58.040 --> 1:07:00.520 We can't listen. Hold on, let me let me just 1:07:00.520 --> 1:07:01.439 tell you say my point. 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:05.360 If you don't watch collector, that's so two of them recently. 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:09.040 I'm like you sure, they're like, you know what because 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:10.360 they don't even know themselves. What the fuck? 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:11.880 Yeah, but you're doing it because. 1:07:11.600 --> 1:07:12.160 Here you go. 1:07:12.240 --> 1:07:14.600 It's this this watch company that hasn't made nothing in 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:18.320 twenty five years. They make something, hold on, they make 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:19.440 something that next year. 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.800 As a watch collector, you need to own that. No. 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:24.160 Yes, did you think one of your songs with Pharrel 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:26.720 that was fucking a smash hit and just tweaking a 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:27.960 little No, you're. 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:28.840 Not gonna do that. 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:32.880 That's not what this is. That's what, sir, That's not 1:07:32.960 --> 1:07:37.320 what As a watch collector, you need to own that. See, 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:39.800 you're a seller and you you you are too much 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:41.400 involved emotionally. 1:07:41.840 --> 1:07:43.960 That is not That's not what this is, sir. 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:47.080 This game has changed. 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:57.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sixty thousand retail, seventy one, seventy one. 1:07:57.240 --> 1:08:01.320 Yeah it was when to drop undred undred? 1:08:01.400 --> 1:08:06.360 Yeah right, what do you think it is today? 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:07.080 Try again? 1:08:08.440 --> 1:08:11.560 Try again? Where do you think it is today? 1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:13.760 I tell him I lose. 1:08:13.800 --> 1:08:14.880 It doesn't matter. I'm just saying. 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.960 I'm just say I'm not buying watches, not saying I'm 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:21.080 just saying to collected watches, sell watches, you know. 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:23.599 Right now in this market, and that goes for all 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.920 of you, and and then and the and the audience. 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:31.000 Just relax, take it easy, just because something comes out first, relax, 1:08:31.200 --> 1:08:34.960 let it settle in. Let it this game. No, no, 1:08:35.080 --> 1:08:39.719 I understand, that's not that's not what Let me finish 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:42.960 unless it directly from the A D. 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:45.880 Directly store to AD that's but if you come to me, 1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:50.360 let me just take collected and the drill is watch chasing. 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:52.599 That's the thrill. That's the thrill. 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:54.800 Like it's like it's like when you when you know 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:56.640 no one else can get what you can get, no 1:08:56.640 --> 1:09:00.880 one else can't do. Just know, you know how many 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:04.559 people have an FBB this. I want to say, I'm 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:06.519 almost the first black person I know. 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:11.000 To have people your home. I'm just playing it nice 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:11.439 to say. 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.240 It was nice to say, let me you're the first, 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:17.840 the first. 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:21.840 First, I gotta have watch watch Watch. Trust me. 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:24.479 I told people about told people about Swiss, I told 1:09:24.479 --> 1:09:26.640 people about reggae though everyone laughed at me when I 1:09:26.680 --> 1:09:29.599 said that. When I say this, I told Peo about 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:33.120 Daddy Yankee. When I tell people, listen, the next hot 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:37.400 watch brand, it's gonna be FB. I'm just telling you 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:38.280 it's already hot. 1:09:38.479 --> 1:09:42.760 It's world. It's just not hood hot. I got one 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:43.120 of the one. 1:09:43.400 --> 1:09:44.040 That's the thing that. 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.719 They're gonna get it, whether they depending on. It's really 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:51.120 like who want to say it in the Rat like 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:52.360 Drake saying in the Rat. 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:55.800 Like he's the last independent watch makeup there is, and 1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:58.720 like word is he's a genius. He gets big all 1:09:58.800 --> 1:10:08.560 day and fuck with hookers world upend look allegedly allegedly, 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:12.000 And it's just he makes these brilliant watches. You can't 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:15.800 right now, there's no face, so you can't implicate it. 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:18.000 You can't domic You don't have to write essay to 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:18.519 get this watch. 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:28.479 Oh yes, I wrote, I wrote Mian right yo, I 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:32.880 forgot I was dyslex wrote that ship runs though he said, 1:10:33.680 --> 1:10:34.320 if you don't. 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:42.200 Give me this watch, I will put the boat out and. 1:10:39.760 --> 1:10:44.160 I should have said that, and then you still you 1:10:44.280 --> 1:10:46.880 still gotta wait nothing. 1:10:47.400 --> 1:10:51.160 Yeah, you gotta get him watched. We've been scoping out 1:10:51.160 --> 1:10:54.840 the right one. He don't know, Yeah he don't. 1:10:55.040 --> 1:11:00.320 He don't really he don't. Yeah, realistic, I hear. 1:11:00.240 --> 1:11:03.839 You, bro, But you gotta you know he lived once. 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:06.000 Bro, last I had it. I'm gonna get him something. 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:08.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta go. 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:10.200 You gotta put it through. 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:11.920 You gotta get a watch. 1:11:12.960 --> 1:11:14.519 There's only one watch that I want. He knows to watch, 1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:19.280 only one, like yeah, Black Rollers, I don't even know 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:22.400 Black That had one. That's why. That's the only reason 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:23.320 why I know we make it. 1:11:23.400 --> 1:11:24.080 You know who had that? 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:26.439 I did the one for a whole, the sky Dweller 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:30.479 when the first drop, when it first drop, he called me, said, yo, bro, 1:11:30.760 --> 1:11:33.240 I need to I couldn't even get one. 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:35.040 I couldn't even get one. 1:11:35.479 --> 1:11:37.519 I don't know how he got he got one, and 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:38.960 then I got him the other one, and then the 1:11:39.040 --> 1:11:42.120 forty ones came out, got him to immediately. But then 1:11:42.280 --> 1:11:46.040 the Skyswoller, the white Gold or Staley Steel came out. 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.040 I took that and I gave it to Bamford. 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:50.960 You know Bamford. No, you know Banford. 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:55.120 Bamford is a company in England. They customized, but they 1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:58.040 have a partner sort of. It's like a partnership with Orles, 1:11:58.080 --> 1:12:00.240 not really, you know, they know them. They let just 1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:02.000 do their thing with their watches. You know, they're the 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:03.759 only ones to let them do their thing with their watches. 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:05.600 So I took that and I just made one the 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:08.320 whole all black, Matt Black with the rock with the 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:13.800 rock Nation logo, the one one that sits in the 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:15.639 back one of one rock Nation. 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:19.400 It was sick. That's beautiful. Watch beautiful, have a picture. 1:12:19.479 --> 1:12:19.920 I'll show you. 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:24.040 So we want to do quick time Okay, okay you 1:12:24.080 --> 1:12:27.280 guys send something over. Yes, yes, the rules I'm gonna 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:33.760 go to. I watched this and I know exactly when 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:36.040 you get the text to do quick time with live 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:36.680 and I'm like. 1:12:36.920 --> 1:12:37.240 What's this? 1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:41.160 It has and leads? Okay, what is that? 1:12:41.280 --> 1:12:41.720 Man? Has? 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:41.960 Man? 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:45.639 What are we doing there? 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:49.160 For your shot? For your shot? 1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:50.519 What are we doing? 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:54.080 You can have you can have some man you staying 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:57.480 with the Broyeah. 1:12:58.160 --> 1:12:59.080 You know it's the water. 1:12:59.280 --> 1:13:07.479 Yeah, you just said it. Go bro, come on. The 1:13:07.640 --> 1:13:11.400 small shots, small shots, but one. 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:20.880 That just sounds fucking extreme. Thank you. 1:13:23.280 --> 1:13:27.120 All do little shots. I always wonder who said the text. 1:13:28.520 --> 1:13:31.200 You're taking me home? Mister Lee has it? You got 1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:37.240 mister Lee has and when you hear he's gonna give 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:42.360 you Yeah, yeah, I got you. So we're gonna give 1:13:42.360 --> 1:13:43.880 you two choices. I mean, I don't know how we're 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:45.599 gonna do with both, but we'll figure it out. We're 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:46.559 gonna give you two choices. 1:13:47.280 --> 1:13:50.400 If you pick one, you pick a choice, You make 1:13:50.439 --> 1:13:53.960 a choice. Nobody drinks, not one person drinks, you don't drink. 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:56.519 Nobody drinks. But if you say both are neither, which 1:13:56.520 --> 1:13:56.920 would be the. 1:13:56.920 --> 1:14:02.640 PC answer, right, you avoid answer we're all drinking a 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:03.719 shot again? 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:06.599 Is this or that? It's basically yeah, this is answer 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:08.640 every question. But the thing is, we're not trying to this, know, 1:14:08.720 --> 1:14:11.479 but it's really to bring up stories about people. Know. 1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:16.280 I know. Any of Wilson questions in there records. Should 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:23.400 thirty might be mister mister why is the sunny coming 1:14:23.439 --> 1:14:24.400 the prescription shop? 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:29.160 Ye, that's that's what The one of the questions, how 1:14:29.200 --> 1:14:31.320 many motherfuckers opened money? No? 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:36.920 No, no, that's not that's not yet. Okay. The first 1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:40.120 one is disrespect, but that doesn't even make sense. How 1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:40.920 does that even work? 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:44.760 Right? Hey, I'm almost I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask. 1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:50.240 I'm gonna ask you nas or snoop. As far as 1:14:50.280 --> 1:14:53.200 what it's whatever, it's a whatever criterion your mom got 1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:56.040 being ready Jamie, Uh nonsense. 1:14:58.120 --> 1:14:59.160 Do you have any stories of us? 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:01.040 Of course a lot of I did a lot of 1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:08.160 his jewelry, great guy with him, iconic moment. 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:08.439 Yeah. 1:15:08.560 --> 1:15:12.240 I did a piece for Swizzy, thank you. Definitely trying 1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:14.960 to get me drunk. I did a piece for Swizzy. 1:15:15.040 --> 1:15:16.200 It was a Bosk yacht. 1:15:16.800 --> 1:15:18.799 It was an actual Realcht painting. 1:15:19.479 --> 1:15:22.519 I want to say, Yes, I'll show you what we 1:15:22.600 --> 1:15:25.760 do is it's called it's called enamel, like our teeth, 1:15:25.920 --> 1:15:31.160 it's enamel work. Where this is an artist paid them. 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:34.720 I'll shootload of money and like your face right there 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:36.840 on your piece wasn't even actually done yet. I need 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:39.080 to take it back from you and your mouth, the 1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:41.160 eyes and your hat says your name. We have to 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:44.200 enamel it a certain color, like on the like on 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:48.040 the TV, like on the movie. It's in white. So 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:50.320 then Soiz he calls me, He's like, yo, I need 1:15:50.360 --> 1:15:51.800 to make a piece. I need to make he made 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:56.320 one piece Andy Warhol, the frame. I designed the frame 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:58.920 of the piece and then the Andy Warhol the cans 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:02.040 and I mean, I'm an ali one. If you've seen 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:05.240 the four pictures of I made that into golden diamonds, 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:08.960 like with a diamond frame with diamonds around it. I'll 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:12.720 show you pictures in here's shout out, shout out in front. 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.840 She just text me, okay, hold on, look, I'm gonna 1:16:15.840 --> 1:16:16.040 show you. 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:18.160 Look. I'll show you real quick. Sorry. I got like 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:23.960 twenty five thousand pictures here. Look, um. 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:30.840 Yeah, find it shit fast. So he made me, he said, yo, gee, 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:32.040 make this for me. I'm like, yo, let me me 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:32.519 right there. 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:36.120 Yo, that's fucking crazy. 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:37.240 Yeah. 1:16:38.080 --> 1:16:40.280 Got a sentence shout a Swiss. 1:16:40.240 --> 1:16:43.280 See that right there. And that's twenty sixteen. I was 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:43.920 actually before that. 1:16:44.000 --> 1:16:45.680 I just took a video of that. He gade me 1:16:45.800 --> 1:16:46.080 take this. 1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:53.200 And he actually, you see this exactly like the painting 1:16:54.600 --> 1:16:58.280 one to one. So I was this this video I 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:02.120 was in I was in house in l A and 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:04.640 I believe Swiss gave it to him somewhere in the 1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:06.760 studio or something like that, and it was this one 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:10.760 and then it was Swiss gifted that Swiss gifts of 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:11.559 that and you know. 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:13.479 They brothers did they do that ship they give each 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:13.920 other gifts. 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:15.760 I love that, you know, I gotta get into that, 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:24.400 So give me tell you. I used to remember the 1:17:24.439 --> 1:17:26.360 first Drink Sam episodes. He was like, man, we got 1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:27.599 gz coming into what questions? 1:17:27.640 --> 1:17:27.920 You said? 1:17:29.600 --> 1:17:33.120 You got equity question Drew. 1:17:34.680 --> 1:17:36.800 So that one of the stories was I made that 1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:39.599 for him, and then and then I you know went, 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.200 I think I delivered him, uh his Jesus piece that 1:17:43.240 --> 1:17:46.240 I made for him, and then a couple of other things. Finals, 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:49.080 and he's like one of my favorite rappers the world. 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:51.160 I'm going in the funk. I grew up in Brooklyn, East, 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:54.040 New York listening to him going on the train. Yeah, bro, 1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:56.000 ain't no fucking around here. 1:17:56.000 --> 1:18:00.679 I can't. That's what they need to clear up. Everybody 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:04.120 thinks it's new. Yes, different, he's different out. 1:18:04.240 --> 1:18:07.400 I grew up in Start City. Everybody knows what's what's. 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:07.800 Going on with that? 1:18:08.400 --> 1:18:11.080 So I grew up the B eighty two Bush all 1:18:11.080 --> 1:18:13.360 the way the FDR High. 1:18:13.240 --> 1:18:21.000 School in fang Okay, come on, connection. My first thought. 1:18:21.120 --> 1:18:23.759 My dad's first doll was in Flatbush in kan Avenue. 1:18:23.880 --> 1:18:26.000 Yeah, I'm I'm from Kate in the same fall. 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:29.840 Right, Jamaican. They're like, right there. My first tittes I 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:31.320 saw was in Flatbush and Kate. 1:18:32.760 --> 1:18:35.040 I was ten years old. The girl comes in down 1:18:35.080 --> 1:18:36.160 with Jamaican. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:37.960 Shirts, you know, the titties sticking out of you know, 1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:42.640 you know they're making, you know, and the shirts with 1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:44.320 the fucking holes in it. 1:18:46.560 --> 1:18:49.200 A couple of dudes. She comes into the store. She 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:50.000 comes into the store. 1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:52.920 Over your son. I remember this. I'm like ten years old. Bro, 1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:54.040 I'm like, my dad was my shot. 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:54.760 The ranks was hot. 1:18:55.000 --> 1:18:56.479 My dad was like me in the. 1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:58.680 Back of my head. All guys, we gotta do quick time. 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:03.360 That was a long time. This goes for ghost face. 1:19:03.840 --> 1:19:10.360 Oh that's all shot Ray shot already. 1:19:10.520 --> 1:19:14.240 I feel like what you said, I'm gonna go ghost 1:19:14.280 --> 1:19:18.080 face though you said shot the Ray shot, No shot 1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:18.439 the Ray. 1:19:18.960 --> 1:19:21.720 You said shot Ray. I was Ray is my man. 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:23.040 If I had to split him up. 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:27.320 I just think ghosts gave us so many classics in 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:30.000 hip hop, you know, like Cuban Link. First of all, 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:31.759 it is just set off a whole chain of events, 1:19:32.200 --> 1:19:34.080 like we never seen the Purple tab A special. 1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:38.800 But you know when which ghost is a part of. 1:19:38.840 --> 1:19:41.599 But when we go from from that to Iron Man, 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:46.639 to Supreme Clientele to Bulletproof Wilets to the pretty Tony 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:50.439 albums more fish like. I think Ghost has one of 1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:55.640 the better discographies in hip hoping none like you know. 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:57.400 I think Outcast has a hell of a run. I 1:19:57.479 --> 1:19:58.840 think Jay has a hell of a run. I think 1:19:58.880 --> 1:20:01.240 Kanye has a I think those Face has an incredible 1:20:01.880 --> 1:20:03.160 like four album running. 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:06.800 So shout to go. Okay, hit boy or hit maker? 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:10.960 You asked me, I was hit boy all day, boy 1:20:11.400 --> 1:20:15.240 him make h making this me one time? My brother 1:20:15.560 --> 1:20:18.519 him make it this one time. I know both of them. 1:20:18.560 --> 1:20:22.840 I deal with both of them. But that's why you 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:27.920 hit man, you you big hit maker? No hit boy 1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:31.160 boy hit boy? Okay, Well, but I helped make a 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.000 this him making this me forever? 1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:38.200 Really bullshit about No, I think I actually did. 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:39.280 I actually did. 1:20:40.920 --> 1:20:42.040 And then if you with him when I was a 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:44.080 double XL, when he did the Sexy Can I and 1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:47.519 and when he when he was first propping. But I, I, like, 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:50.880 I'm a member, had what he said. You gotta ask 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:54.080 him that. But he when I dropped my first album, 1:20:54.120 --> 1:20:55.840 when I got back to you that because you you 1:20:55.920 --> 1:20:58.439 brought it up. You got this is like the show 1:20:58.560 --> 1:21:02.600 this is. You're not dodging, no question. I know what 1:21:02.640 --> 1:21:04.080 it's like to be on the other side and ask 1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:07.200 somebody Dodd's questions. I can't tell you why he dissed me. 1:21:07.240 --> 1:21:09.200 I can tell you what he said to drop my 1:21:09.240 --> 1:21:15.120 first album he tried to dis He like tweeted at 1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:19.000 Joe Budden. He was like, yo, Joe, Like why why Rob? 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:22.720 He gets to sit up there and talk about what's 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:25.000 hot and what's not. But his music sounds like how 1:21:25.040 --> 1:21:27.720 it sounds so trying to say like I was like 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:31.080 that shit came out of nowhere. But you know it's 1:21:31.120 --> 1:21:34.719 all good, like you got, Like I've criticized people before. 1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:36.639 You know, I'm measuring my critics. 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:37.320 For me. 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:40.080 It's never hate, but you know I criticized people for it, 1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:42.760 so you gotta take it. But if I'm if I'm 1:21:42.800 --> 1:21:45.680 being honest, if I am being honest, that aside, just 1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:47.800 what the fuck hit Boy done is incredible. 1:21:47.880 --> 1:21:48.000 Man. 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:49.280 I love what hit Boy's done, like. 1:21:50.840 --> 1:21:53.760 Like like god, Nas like Nas is always popping. 1:21:53.840 --> 1:21:54.679 Nas is a classic. 1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:57.280 But the album run that he went with NAS like 1:21:57.400 --> 1:21:59.559 that late in NAS's career, the way they sold out 1:21:59.600 --> 1:22:01.519 the guard and all of that, and then the fact 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:05.000 that hit Boy raps as well, and people like I 1:22:05.080 --> 1:22:07.400 can relate to that, like people probably tell him, yo, 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:09.120 stick to make a beach sho, just make bee sho. 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.040 We just want you for his beat, and hit Boy 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:12.599 can actually fucking rap. 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:14.960 And then puts his father on with his father in 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:18.000 side of jail, and that it's the fucking family thing. Like, 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:20.040 I think what hip Boy is doing is incredible, So 1:22:20.400 --> 1:22:23.040 I share that that hip maker story just because it's like, yo, 1:22:23.080 --> 1:22:26.280 we're being truthful and honest. But I pick hit Boy 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:29.280 because I just think what he's doing is incredible. But 1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:31.280 I funk with some hit making joints. Still, I ain't 1:22:31.280 --> 1:22:35.040 gonna lie like hit Maker guy got records, Okay, Primo 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:37.479 Pete Rock, I got an answer, but I just want 1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:38.160 to take a shot, So. 1:22:40.880 --> 1:22:41.760 Table this. 1:22:43.040 --> 1:22:47.360 Yeah we got shot of po p Rock. Now you 1:22:47.400 --> 1:22:49.679 didn't pick That's why we took a shot. Yeah Okay. 1:22:51.840 --> 1:22:56.360 It feels like yeah, okay, yeah, you was explaining why 1:22:56.400 --> 1:23:00.640 you picked both was amazing out of Pete Rock. 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:04.599 Though Pete Rock did hit me one day and say, yo, yo, man, 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:07.360 we gotta I gotta get you some beasts man, we 1:23:07.439 --> 1:23:08.160 gotta do something. 1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:11.760 So Pete, that's dope. But you know what I'm saying. 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:13.600 If I have got that be Pack, I would have 1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:19.240 the picture I get to be. I respect that to 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:21.320 be Rock. I love Rock Bro. 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:29.920 Okay broad Yeah, Jacob the Jeweler or Tito clearly you 1:23:30.000 --> 1:23:30.719 know they wrote. 1:23:30.520 --> 1:23:35.320 That over there and I already feel like you know already, Okay. 1:23:35.520 --> 1:23:37.679 I'm just saying that if it wasn't I'm just saying, 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:41.280 if it wasn't for Jacob, it wouldn't be me or 1:23:41.320 --> 1:23:41.920 anybody else. 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:43.559 If it wasn't for Tito, it. 1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:47.120 Wouldn't be jac in all honesty. 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:51.840 In all honesty, I believe you don't really put Jacob on. 1:23:52.520 --> 1:23:55.640 And if it wasn't, if titn't had more of a 1:23:55.840 --> 1:23:58.879 family dynamic, if he had more of a foundation grounded, 1:23:59.360 --> 1:24:01.600 you know, I had what we have back up in 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:03.600 support and blah blah blah, I think he would have 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:04.439 been out of here, right. 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:05.519 I know what I'm saying. 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.519 It just like the underdog, you know what I mean, 1:24:07.600 --> 1:24:10.360 Like I'm always going for the underdog and anything if 1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:12.120 I if I'm a gambler, I'm going for the underdog 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:14.920 because they wants who have more to proof, more to 1:24:15.560 --> 1:24:19.840 gain than somebody who's already you know there, that's all. 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:21.439 So you who you pick? 1:24:21.640 --> 1:24:26.120 You know? Okay, can I can I answer that one? 1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:27.000 He answer that? 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:28.400 Twizz the Jeweler. 1:24:28.680 --> 1:24:31.879 Okay, Okay, damn, you took a shot for no reason. 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:32.880 No reasons. 1:24:33.760 --> 1:24:35.240 You're on drink chands. You got through you know what 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:39.840 I mean? Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock, I got my 1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:41.000 mind what I. 1:24:41.080 --> 1:24:43.240 Wanted to take a shot. But this day Chapelle, his 1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:46.720 day Sapel for me. Okay, I think it's Chris. 1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:48.640 It's Chris for me. 1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:54.000 I just I just I just saw Chappelle live. He 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:57.360 was torn with Killer Mike. Yeah, it's crazy and and 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:05.200 so he's still got they both Chris Chris is amazing, 1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:06.120 but like. 1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:07.960 Christians went through so much ship. 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:10.800 But the Chappelle Show. Also, when I think about the 1:25:10.880 --> 1:25:11.759 Chappelle Show. 1:25:11.560 --> 1:25:15.200 In that era, like that was the last time I 1:25:15.280 --> 1:25:19.720 think in TV really like a show that the next 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:21.680 day that we talked about it, whether you was in 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:23.640 the studio or whether you was in school, or. 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:25.840 Whether you was at work at the water pool. He 1:25:25.920 --> 1:25:27.479 waited for episode was a drop. 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:29.040 And then the next day it was like, Yo, you've 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:31.840 seen Dave Chappelle last night. Yo, you've seen the Prince Ship. Yo, 1:25:32.360 --> 1:25:35.360 I'm Rick James bitch Like, it's just so much ship 1:25:35.439 --> 1:25:37.640 with Day like like, I remember that. 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:40.000 But I gotta remember Chris Rock had a show on 1:25:40.160 --> 1:25:43.160 HBO too. I answered that, and that's kind of kind 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:44.920 of maybe what sparked today. 1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:49.800 Christ was more of a talk show. Yeah that's true, 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:51.720 that's true. I think that has kids, though this has 1:25:52.479 --> 1:25:56.160 wanders like, yeah, they just gets But really the ship 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:57.800 that set it off for for all of us. I 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.599 think at least our generation was a living color Wayne. 1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:04.560 But were saying, we trying to set with Dave, and 1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:09.280 I got a big Dave. Dave, Okay, you ain't missing 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:11.360 look like you go. 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:15.120 I like that. I like that. So they disagree. Should 1:26:15.120 --> 1:26:16.360 we take a shot because they disagree? 1:26:16.479 --> 1:26:19.920 I mean, yeah, they they big? 1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:22.240 Okay, death Row or t D. 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:26.479 Yeah, I'm TD, Top Dogs, my brother, I'm going t. 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:30.559 D to the Top Dog Entertainment. You remember that they 1:26:30.640 --> 1:26:32.160 used to start all their shows like that to the 1:26:32.240 --> 1:26:35.400 Top Dog and top do. I look like, I mean, 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:40.320 death Row is iconic. But man, I love living in 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:41.760 the moment. I love that we get to have t 1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:46.800 d right now. But can we can we forget or 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:49.880 with Dethro did. No, you can never forget the predecessor. 1:26:50.120 --> 1:26:53.160 You can never forget what Dethro did. But yeah, what man, 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:55.040 I think what t d E is doing right now 1:26:55.240 --> 1:26:56.360 is so special. 1:26:57.040 --> 1:27:01.080 And you know what's incredible about CD and if we 1:27:01.240 --> 1:27:05.360 keep it real, Kendrick is technically not on TV anymore. 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.960 He's still a CD fan, but he's not on CD R. 1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:10.840 Yeah yeah, yeah. When he did that mister Morale and 1:27:10.920 --> 1:27:12.920 the Big Step is was his last album on td 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:16.639 G n X is not technically a CDE album. When 1:27:16.800 --> 1:27:21.680 Kendrick had fulfilled his td E contract, the talk on 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:24.559 social media talking months hip hop fans was they were done, 1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:27.840 right if Kendrick is there is not there that they're done? 1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:29.640 What do you did with? 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:32.040 Is just this seven million records? 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:35.320 He doesn't the whole different level is just. 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:37.080 This seven millions? I know? 1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:42.439 I called him yea, what is doing right now with 1:27:43.000 --> 1:27:44.880 is about to become killing? And then and then you 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:47.040 still got school Boy Q. I think Blue Lips was 1:27:47.080 --> 1:27:51.200 on on for sure favorite albums of twenty twenty four. 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:53.719 I think what abs sold is still doing is amazing. 1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:57.080 So they still they still could sell records and commercially 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:59.960 impact and still keep critical acclaim. 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:01.160 That's hard to do. 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:03.880 It's hard to satisfy the critics and affect the charte 1:28:03.920 --> 1:28:04.599 at the same time. 1:28:04.920 --> 1:28:07.320 I just think this moment we're living in with CD, 1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:07.880 we got to. 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:11.920 Appreciate because they counted Top Punch, shout the Moosa, They 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.760 counted them dudes out. When Ken Drake said he I'm 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:18.200 gonnna start PG lang and and looking them numbers on 1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:19.479 scassor Man, it's incredible, man. 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:25.240 And it feels like they fixed or they figured out 1:28:25.280 --> 1:28:27.600 all the wrongs that happened with death bro. 1:28:28.120 --> 1:28:30.479 Well that's what he did with saying like talked on 1:28:30.640 --> 1:28:35.080 with Q boy school with QT shots. 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:41.439 Ten years, took animals with him to get to to 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:43.040 get to Kendrick to. 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:45.880 Forget. 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.000 Yeah, but I'm just saying they went, I don't know, 1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:52.920 like that's me and me and having conversations. 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:54.040 But but also think. 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:55.880 About it, think about Jay Rock, right, and I was 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:57.320 at Double Excel at the time when. 1:28:57.160 --> 1:29:00.479 We put Jay Rock on the cover. Ken was at 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:05.160 that shoot. It was like, yeah, because Kendrick used to 1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:09.840 be Jay Rocks used to go on the ruin coming 1:29:09.960 --> 1:29:12.040 up right, and then Kendrick made it the next year. 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:13.400 Like they created such a system. 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:16.080 So really, when we think about it, like Jay Rock 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:18.679 is really the what they call him the first dog 1:29:18.760 --> 1:29:21.680 out TD. So so Jay it was supposed to be 1:29:21.800 --> 1:29:24.040 Jay Rock in the beginning, but it ain't work out 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:26.000 in the way that they Again. 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:26.559 They knew to the game. 1:29:26.600 --> 1:29:29.000 They probably had to take their lumps a little bit. 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:32.600 That's when they figured out how to win to be 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:35.479 the president TD. Like I mean, I don't I don't know, 1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:38.000 I don't even cam Yeah, but I don't even know 1:29:38.040 --> 1:29:39.320 if Jay Rock wants. 1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:44.920 Vice president. But the beautiful part is so Kendrick is 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:48.120 the one that takes off right and and Jay Rock. 1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:51.000 Jay Rock is more underground, right, doesn't have the commercial 1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:54.920 success that that that that Kendrick got. But Jay Rock 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:58.120 still is a Grammy winning artist. Jay Rock won a Grammy, 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:01.040 so they were a would have build that ship up. 1:30:01.080 --> 1:30:04.240 And we live in the world with Jay Rock, who 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:07.160 didn't change who he was anybody. 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:09.439 At all is a Grammy Award win. 1:30:09.439 --> 1:30:11.559 Let me tell you something, he is top Dog. Top Dog. 1:30:11.640 --> 1:30:15.040 One thing I love about top Dog, he's the same guy. 1:30:15.479 --> 1:30:18.240 I don't know him like that personally, but I had. 1:30:18.520 --> 1:30:21.040 I started me and my one of my guys, one 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:24.639 of my boys, uh Jack from Cincinnati. We started a label, 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:29.400 all right, it's called uh BC. It's called Big Big Coin, 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:32.000 not Big the coin. So he had a few artists. 1:30:32.080 --> 1:30:35.280 This is active now, there's act active now. I gotta 1:30:35.280 --> 1:30:38.320 see what the change just to be in the sadude. 1:30:39.040 --> 1:30:41.240 But the point is we tried to just get in, 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:44.720 like not me. I'm helping my boys. I'm not on 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:46.760 the content. I'm not on the paperwork, none of that. 1:30:46.960 --> 1:30:51.879 I'm helping my boy, bro. And I'm going to everybody, everybody. 1:30:51.920 --> 1:30:52.840 I go to top Dog. 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:56.880 I don't know, Bro. The guy is such a. 1:30:56.880 --> 1:30:58.400 Great dude, never changed. 1:30:58.960 --> 1:31:01.400 He's so humble. Bro, bring him to La. 1:31:01.479 --> 1:31:02.160 I want to Bro. 1:31:02.520 --> 1:31:04.880 They flew out to La. They had to sit down. 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:07.200 He listened to every fucking song. 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:11.200 He fucks with the young boy and because he's like yo, 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:15.000 he's like a little Dirk situation going on. But the 1:31:15.080 --> 1:31:16.760 young boy just in and out of jail, just with 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:20.040 the bullshit, you know, all this bullshit. But he's like, 1:31:20.120 --> 1:31:21.599 you know, when he gets his ship straight top talk, 1:31:21.640 --> 1:31:24.920 he's like, yo, gee, he's we want to work. We 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:26.880 want to do this and we said that, and I 1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:28.960 told him, they don't need your money. They just need 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:32.160 your wheel. Your the wheel that's already in motion. That's 1:31:32.200 --> 1:31:34.519 all they need. They don't need your money. Just help them. 1:31:34.800 --> 1:31:35.680 They figured it out. 1:31:35.720 --> 1:31:37.360 They figured it out. That's what I that's what I 1:31:37.439 --> 1:31:39.800 respect them on top, like amazing dude. 1:31:40.040 --> 1:31:41.360 And they keep it very independent. 1:31:41.439 --> 1:31:44.800 Mind They've got exactly all the deals that they've gone through, 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:46.120 but they keep it very independent. 1:31:46.800 --> 1:31:49.599 I love he's out of all these CEOs, all these 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:52.200 guys that I know, like I deal with, this guy 1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:53.680 is unbelievable. 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:56.120 He's such like such a humble guy. And I never 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:56.800 seen this before. 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:04.880 We're gonna get through this real quick slow bust down 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:06.559 versus no bust down. 1:32:06.479 --> 1:32:07.040 No bust down. 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:10.040 It depends on the situation though, Okay, like what it 1:32:10.320 --> 1:32:12.160 depends if you, you know, if you just want to 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:13.080 funk around and. 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:16.200 How about you get the factory, Richard Milly bust down. 1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:20.200 I don't have a bust down watching you do? 1:32:20.320 --> 1:32:21.080 You have a bezzel on it. 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:25.080 It's a that's no way. 1:32:27.880 --> 1:32:32.840 A real covideo buzz down ship. But it's a buzz 1:32:32.880 --> 1:32:34.840 now it's supposed to know what do I mean My 1:32:34.880 --> 1:32:35.519 ship is factory. 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:35.960 I don't care. 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:39.599 Came with the diamonds on the bezel of course from 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:42.160 cher from us the factory. 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:44.680 Don't get no, no, no, no no no you you 1:32:44.840 --> 1:32:46.680 you must be misunderstanding, didn't we. 1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:52.519 Listen? We say that bust down is when your whole 1:32:52.600 --> 1:32:56.280 ship is not really not really. You got different language 1:32:56.320 --> 1:32:58.480 than us. As long as I be honest. 1:32:58.240 --> 1:32:59.800 With you, some sort of stones on it. 1:32:59.880 --> 1:33:02.479 You have diamonds on your bezel. That doesn't call it. 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:06.680 But I don't know. That's not because you called it. 1:33:06.760 --> 1:33:09.320 That always felt like if it was factory. That's just 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:13.439 that is not gonna listen, I have an a P. 1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:15.639 Bus down. 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:18.920 It's all the way, all the way. That is a 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:19.559 bust down. 1:33:19.760 --> 1:33:22.120 I would have told you if you just got it 1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:24.120 on the bezel, that is not considered. 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:25.960 I would have told you that a lot cheaper than 1:33:26.000 --> 1:33:26.439 when you pay. 1:33:26.520 --> 1:33:28.840 See he don't even But I'm not gonna lie to you. 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:31.599 I like going to the A P people. You feeling 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:35.240 like that, nigga? You know what I'm saying that with 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:35.640 a P. 1:33:35.840 --> 1:33:38.160 You don't know. It's cool me and you. That's why 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:41.720 you know I come to you like I'm you know 1:33:41.760 --> 1:33:43.439 what I'm saying, like, but you know, I got that 1:33:43.600 --> 1:33:45.520 relationship with a pad. 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:46.639 He sends me to watch. 1:33:46.640 --> 1:33:47.280 He sends me your game. 1:33:47.320 --> 1:33:48.640 What do you think about this game? 1:33:48.680 --> 1:33:48.720 It? 1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:51.720 Now, don't get it, don't do this. 1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:52.560 He tells me. 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:57.160 You still still never tell the deal of what you 1:33:57.200 --> 1:33:58.120 spend on your wrist watch. 1:33:59.280 --> 1:34:03.880 I don't know. I'm having fun in my world. My world. 1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:07.879 He's having direct from protect he has direct the direct 1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:10.519 from Richard No. 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:15.080 No, Floyd would say, okay, hard. 1:34:17.160 --> 1:34:23.360 Direct a p then had director said, now I got that. 1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:27.680 Cheron is the hardest one. 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:33.240 Yeah, nobody got that. Only other you know, all the 1:34:33.360 --> 1:34:37.160 other other person in the world who got that watching bird? 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:43.240 Who's sucker Brott? To keep me saying again. 1:34:46.160 --> 1:34:49.320 The medow motherfucker medaw mother. 1:34:51.240 --> 1:34:54.400 Let's puts down this next one. The source of double XL. 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:59.479 Yeah, that's definitely for you, double excel man. 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:01.720 First of all, I worked at double XEL. We grew 1:35:01.800 --> 1:35:04.360 up on the source, so it's still you know I 1:35:04.479 --> 1:35:07.880 used to do. I started working when I was freelancing. 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:11.519 Well, who'd you pick up DOUBLELF? Clearly I want to 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:15.360 drink but double I'm good. 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:19.960 Bring it up when when I was freelancing, when I 1:35:20.000 --> 1:35:21.960 started out as a journalists. I were freelance, so I 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:24.720 could write for every magazine with four double for Double 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:26.679 Xcel when I was just freelance. Once I got onto 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.360 Double Xcel, they'd be like, Yo, you work for us, 1:35:28.360 --> 1:35:30.680 so you got to be exclusive to us. But I 1:35:30.800 --> 1:35:35.599 used to freelance for Complex, Vibe, Source, Double Xcel, Don 1:35:35.680 --> 1:35:38.160 Diva shouting Tiffany shout of Kevin Shiles. 1:35:38.360 --> 1:35:44.080 Probably you probably did a writ upon me, absolutely, absolutely, right, absolutely, But. 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:48.479 I say all that to say is is after a while, 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:50.760 you know it's dope because you get your name, your 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:52.040 byline in the magazine. 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:54.240 So I'm starting to make a name for myself right. 1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:58.200 But in the Source and there's the Mezino where there's 1:35:58.240 --> 1:36:00.800 the tail end of the day Maze and Benzene. However 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:04.720 I'm writing, I'm writing up man, I'm stacking up bylines. 1:36:05.040 --> 1:36:08.880 And the check stopped coming from FROMXL know, from Source 1:36:09.200 --> 1:36:13.680 when the sauce yeah, so so so I'm still in 1:36:13.760 --> 1:36:15.559 the hole with the Source magazine. 1:36:15.560 --> 1:36:19.400 And then they sold it. Yeah, the sold me money. 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:22.519 The saw sold me money. But so so I never 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:25.080 got it was after a certain point, like they stopped 1:36:25.080 --> 1:36:26.519 paying me and I was like, damn, I had to 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:29.120 stop writing for you. But you know, it's kind of 1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:30.920 that trade off because you're hungry to get your name 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:35.280 out there, so it's like same thing, like my man 1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:37.200 and then but it's like yo, then you know you 1:36:37.240 --> 1:36:38.200 don't pay the invoice. 1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:39.160 So so. 1:36:41.040 --> 1:36:41.439 I can't. 1:36:41.520 --> 1:36:41.880 I can't. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:43.360 I can't root for the sauce. I used to work 1:36:43.400 --> 1:36:45.600 for Double Xcel. I was part of the staff that 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:49.240 really made cover hot. Yeah, man, shout to Vanessa, shout 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:54.000 today Twine. So Double Xcel all day. Yeah, Mom Deeper, 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:54.360 m P. 1:36:57.439 --> 1:37:03.400 We just went, yeah, that's for y'all us, yeah, m P. Yeah, 1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:06.960 Mob Deep, I don't even think of recipes. 1:37:07.000 --> 1:37:08.320 Pro honestly, that's my brother. 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:14.200 I'm brooking for life. Man. But Mom, Mob Deep changed 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:16.040 the fund. 1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:15.960 That those. 1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:19.040 Sending that sending that. 1:37:19.120 --> 1:37:23.080 Bus with fucking big CD player with the little big phones. 1:37:23.600 --> 1:37:24.400 Yeah that was it for me. 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:26.799 That ship man everything to us when Mob Deep dropped, 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:32.960 you know what I'm saying. But infamous like yeah, yeah, actually. 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:35.560 Put my name in the song Prodigy really yeh. In 1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.560 his in his solo album it said Gabriel in the 1:37:37.600 --> 1:37:38.719 district get on my loop. 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:41.120 I was like, that's the. 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:45.320 The pe shout out to pay rest in peace, definitely 1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:46.360 q C. 1:37:46.840 --> 1:37:51.400 Or hold the hell hell g C m G. That's 1:37:51.439 --> 1:38:02.160 that's yo, gott my glasses. Oh man, that's a good question. Perfect, 1:38:03.000 --> 1:38:03.760 that's a good question. 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:10.960 C MG. Man, I just think what I mean. 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:13.560 I think what QC did was legendary with Migos and 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:18.080 YACHTI and what they're doing with Baby now with Grilla 1:38:18.200 --> 1:38:21.559 right now. But man, I just like man, I ain't 1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:24.760 here from money bag Yo in a minute, but man, 1:38:25.160 --> 1:38:28.080 Man I went to Memphis about two years ago from 1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:31.679 one of Yo Gotti's birthday bash is when Gorilla first pop, 1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:34.360 she first had F NF And just to see that 1:38:34.479 --> 1:38:36.840 ship in the ground floor, just see the roof. 1:38:36.760 --> 1:38:39.360 Come off that that ship. 1:38:41.320 --> 1:38:43.080 I think CMG is killing it right now. I think 1:38:43.120 --> 1:38:43.960 the Memphis sound. 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:46.880 I think Memphis is so important to hip hop and 1:38:47.000 --> 1:38:50.600 we don't give Memphis enough credit for the trends that 1:38:50.760 --> 1:38:57.040 Memphis is that. Yeah, I just I just want to 1:38:57.040 --> 1:38:59.400 give CMG the fly shot of yoga shot of QC too. 1:38:59.400 --> 1:39:01.280 Wherever I had to pick one, I'm picking CMG right now. 1:39:03.479 --> 1:39:04.360 Yeah, I can't see. 1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:07.240 I got I got I got I got I got 1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:16.080 me And that's work for game or Joe Budden, what 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:17.160 the fuck does this saying? 1:39:19.880 --> 1:39:22.400 I think Wallow is one of the most important voices 1:39:22.439 --> 1:39:25.040 that we have right now. I think, I think, I 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:29.400 think man and this is I've never met Wallow, like 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:30.200 I don't know him. 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:34.960 We have zero relationship. I like what Wallow is doing 1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:38.560 man Like, like when when you see these clips of 1:39:38.960 --> 1:39:43.680 Wallow talking to like like little Dirt for for for real, like, 1:39:44.040 --> 1:39:49.160 it's different Dunk Doug is one. It's different when when 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:50.120 I say it or when. 1:39:50.000 --> 1:39:52.599 We say it like in media, because he got twenty 1:39:52.680 --> 1:39:54.719 years behind the him right, yeah, he got. 1:39:54.920 --> 1:39:57.519 Like I'm from I'm from Flatbis Brooklyn, like don't like 1:39:57.800 --> 1:40:00.880 for real, but I ain't partake in those activities in 1:40:00.880 --> 1:40:02.920 the same way. So when the medium when we kind 1:40:02.960 --> 1:40:05.439 of say, it's still like I can relate, but I 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:08.759 can't relate full lead to what you're going through. Willow 1:40:08.880 --> 1:40:12.439 is playing his experiences in this and like, yo, I've 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:16.559 been through. I've absolutely been there, and I don't want 1:40:16.600 --> 1:40:18.800 to see you go there. I think Wallow's voice is 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:21.320 so one pointant I got to pick millions. 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:28.240 Wallow this morning. That's crazy. I don't know. 1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:31.720 I haven't did anything with him, but he's very inspiring. Ye, 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:34.280 he's very very inspiring because you've been through all that 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:34.960 crazy ship. 1:40:35.960 --> 1:40:37.880 And then I like, I like Gilly the same way 1:40:37.920 --> 1:40:41.800 because you need somebody to play off. Not the same 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:44.439 as million dollars worth the game, but but drink Champs 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:48.400 isna orient efent, like like you need that balance. So 1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:54.639 then Wallow kind of gives us like Gilly keeps in insane. Yeah, 1:40:55.000 --> 1:40:57.920 and Gilly still it's not like Gilly is steering nobody's 1:40:57.960 --> 1:40:58.400 wrong way. 1:40:58.439 --> 1:41:00.559 But but it's that perfect balance. Man a shotow Man 1:41:02.560 --> 1:41:04.360 Breakfast club or he Brow in the morning. 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:07.679 Oh he broke. 1:41:08.640 --> 1:41:12.120 He's taking a shot. Now he's not taking a shot. 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:13.679 He's gonna answer. I wanted. 1:41:13.920 --> 1:41:16.160 I want to take a shi he was shot just 1:41:16.160 --> 1:41:16.760 because I was. 1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:17.479 I was Breakfast. 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:19.560 I was Brow in the morning too. Okay, I was 1:41:19.600 --> 1:41:24.040 on Brow in the morning too. I speak to Charlemagne 1:41:24.080 --> 1:41:27.160 every day. Charlamagne is one of my best friends. Yeah, 1:41:27.200 --> 1:41:28.479 me and Charlamage speak every day. 1:41:28.560 --> 1:41:28.720 Man. 1:41:31.080 --> 1:41:32.840 But I grew up in New York City. Hot ninety 1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:35.519 seven was the first hip hop station that we ever had. 1:41:35.760 --> 1:41:37.960 Let's take, Let's just take. 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:42.880 We're taking a shot, little little This ship ain't had 1:41:42.920 --> 1:41:44.720 ship in it this way. 1:41:45.880 --> 1:41:47.960 But to be clear, you were picking breakfast Club. No, 1:41:48.080 --> 1:41:51.600 I'm picking. I'm he didn't pick. I'm not like you. 1:41:52.800 --> 1:41:55.360 I want to see like yo, I think Charlemagne and 1:41:55.720 --> 1:41:56.759 where he's going. 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.400 Mental health talk in the Yeah, like I think the 1:42:01.520 --> 1:42:04.200 growth of Charlamage. If you really think about what Charlomagne 1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:05.400 came from when he. 1:42:05.439 --> 1:42:09.800 Went through Underwindy Williams, like like he got busted, remember right, Yeah, 1:42:10.000 --> 1:42:12.519 when he out of Philly, he got fired, he got 1:42:12.560 --> 1:42:15.400 black ball. Like what he's built is amazing. 1:42:16.880 --> 1:42:19.960 And it's fucked up because like, Charlamage is one of 1:42:20.000 --> 1:42:22.280 my best friends for real, Me and e Bro are 1:42:22.360 --> 1:42:22.960 super cool. 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:25.720 I funk with them both. I know they don't fuck 1:42:25.760 --> 1:42:27.360 with each other, but I respect them both. So I 1:42:27.439 --> 1:42:28.280 had to say the shot. 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:31.519 Neutrals those two. 1:42:31.800 --> 1:42:36.439 But they're both important voice but they're both important still. 1:42:36.760 --> 1:42:38.880 But but I truly believe that man and I see 1:42:38.880 --> 1:42:41.680 where they disagree and whatever. 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:44.599 Where do they disagree one? I just think it's rival 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:46.479 stations too. I think it's being across the street from 1:42:46.520 --> 1:42:48.760 each other like it's hip hop. 1:42:49.200 --> 1:42:52.720 It's because I think the greater audience doesn't understand where 1:42:52.800 --> 1:42:53.719 where there's a revelry. 1:42:53.760 --> 1:42:55.240 I think it's just being from New York, Like New 1:42:55.280 --> 1:42:58.360 York had hot ninety seven was number one for so long. Yeah, 1:42:58.360 --> 1:42:59.960 and then and then here because I want to say, 1:43:01.240 --> 1:43:02.760 you know, even as you jumping a back, it was 1:43:02.760 --> 1:43:06.120 like they was going in. Yeah, they just as competitive, man. 1:43:06.200 --> 1:43:09.040 But and then I also think lines across I think 1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:11.479 personal things was said, like in the spirit of composition, 1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:14.360 certain things was said that maybe they can't forgive or 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:17.960 maybe they'll never be cool, but I appreciate them both, man. 1:43:18.080 --> 1:43:23.439 So, uh, loyalty or respect, it's kind of a perfect 1:43:23.479 --> 1:43:24.160 segue into that. 1:43:24.479 --> 1:43:26.840 Yeah, loyalty or respect, both of y'all. 1:43:26.920 --> 1:43:30.639 Yeah, I'd rather have loyalty because if you have loyalty, 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:35.360 then you respect is obviously there in some sort of aspect, 1:43:35.439 --> 1:43:40.920 but loyalty will definitely go further their respect because anybody 1:43:41.000 --> 1:43:41.960 can respect anybody. 1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:45.000 You can respect money, you can respect religion, you. 1:43:45.040 --> 1:43:48.960 Can respect whatever. But your loyalty lies with something, has 1:43:49.040 --> 1:43:52.080 to lie with something. My loyalty lies with what I 1:43:52.200 --> 1:43:54.760 believe in and what I'm doing, and you believe in 1:43:54.840 --> 1:43:58.120 what you're doing. And that's I believe loyalty is one 1:43:58.240 --> 1:44:00.519 thousand the way it is. 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:08.519 Lais because I respect is great. But I also I 1:44:08.640 --> 1:44:12.120 know how to handle disrespect. We can meet disrespectful if 1:44:12.120 --> 1:44:14.800 you want to be disrespectful. We got disrespect. But but 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:18.679 but loyalty is something special. Definitely, I'm gonna take a shot. 1:44:19.479 --> 1:44:20.160 I just want both. 1:44:20.439 --> 1:44:24.240 Yeah, I love the best man if I always say 1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:28.880 both have the option, right, yeah, I feel like yeah, 1:44:28.960 --> 1:44:30.960 So what it is is. 1:44:31.080 --> 1:44:32.599 Uh, take a super I'm gonna do too. 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:36.400 Nor. I gotta go, you go, yeah, just go. We 1:44:36.400 --> 1:44:39.679 should take you shouldn't take a shot. He took two shots. 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:40.200 We're gonna take. 1:44:40.200 --> 1:44:43.240 You gotta watch special man. 1:44:43.640 --> 1:44:45.880 I believe how many he is? 1:44:45.960 --> 1:44:46.760 This too much? 1:44:47.560 --> 1:44:48.800 I got seventy million? 1:44:49.200 --> 1:44:51.559 You need to pause that, bron. 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:56.360 Wat I think I think anything over forty two milimeters? 1:44:56.479 --> 1:44:57.880 We okay, that's all right, all right? 1:45:03.160 --> 1:45:03.960 I forgot. 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:06.639 Was it? But my ship? 1:45:06.800 --> 1:45:10.320 Is we losing right now? Like the culture is losing? 1:45:11.760 --> 1:45:14.840 What do you mean the coach is losing because the 1:45:14.960 --> 1:45:19.120 coach has been and listen, listen. The Internet has given 1:45:19.200 --> 1:45:23.040 us a lot. Going digital has given Internet culture has given. 1:45:22.920 --> 1:45:24.479 Us a lot. Is giving us a new way to hustle, 1:45:24.479 --> 1:45:26.320 a new way to make money. You make them the 1:45:26.360 --> 1:45:29.360 motor culture that is its own culture. 1:45:29.479 --> 1:45:32.320 Is different from hip hop culture. So there's a lot 1:45:32.400 --> 1:45:35.240 of fans out here. Again, like you might be a 1:45:35.360 --> 1:45:38.200 Drake fan, but if Drake didn't exist, what you fuck 1:45:38.240 --> 1:45:40.720 with hip hop? Which you fucked with this culture? This 1:45:40.840 --> 1:45:43.480 ship is not based off of who tops the billboards. 1:45:43.760 --> 1:45:46.479 That shit is nice. We celebrated because we love to 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:50.280 see each other win. But who's at the top of 1:45:50.320 --> 1:45:54.120 the billboards consistently don't fucking like it does a matter 1:45:54.160 --> 1:45:54.599 for hip hop. 1:45:55.400 --> 1:45:58.000 It don't dictate to us who the best. It don't 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:00.720 dictate to whatever you move. You did tate how this 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:03.439 fucking charts move. You know what I'm saying, because look, 1:46:03.720 --> 1:46:05.599 and if I'm being real, I'm from an era where 1:46:05.840 --> 1:46:06.559 because if you want. 1:46:06.479 --> 1:46:10.960 To talk about charts, mc Hamm had it all and 1:46:11.080 --> 1:46:14.479 we didn't hammer dirty dirty when he was hot, Himmer 1:46:14.560 --> 1:46:17.240 took bullets. Everything that rappers are getting now that they 1:46:17.280 --> 1:46:20.439 get prosphagan him and had a fucking Super Bowl commercial 1:46:20.800 --> 1:46:23.360 that that hip hop clown him for him had all 1:46:23.400 --> 1:46:25.559 the success that hip hop clowned them for. We need 1:46:25.600 --> 1:46:27.720 to actually appreciate MC him more because all the ship 1:46:27.800 --> 1:46:30.400 rappers aspire to right now is the ship happened with 1:46:30.520 --> 1:46:31.320 going back then. 1:46:31.720 --> 1:46:34.559 I'll do you another one. Another example of how fucked 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:36.920 up this culture is MF. 1:46:37.040 --> 1:46:37.320 Doone. 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:42.400 How much we revere him now, not in life, but now. 1:46:42.520 --> 1:46:44.720 Based off from when he was alive and Big al 1:46:44.800 --> 1:46:47.040 the same shit like like I argue with people all time. 1:46:47.080 --> 1:46:49.200 I know people who Big l is, they favorite them. 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:50.800 See he's one of my favorite them sees. 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:54.599 But remember we from that era where I remember when 1:46:54.680 --> 1:46:56.600 Lifestyles of the Poor and Dangerous came out and I 1:46:56.720 --> 1:46:57.040 bought it. 1:46:58.120 --> 1:47:01.000 Motherfuckers. Wasn't fucking with Ellen to he died? No, No, 1:47:01.160 --> 1:47:04.800 I was like like for early early you for sure. MF. 1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:05.439 Dooing Man. 1:47:05.680 --> 1:47:07.479 One one of the greatest moments I had, Man, I 1:47:07.560 --> 1:47:09.559 was driving my son sixteen years old. I was driving 1:47:09.560 --> 1:47:11.840 and called my son. I said, man, just play whatever 1:47:11.920 --> 1:47:13.360 you want, like you know what I'm saying. So he's 1:47:13.400 --> 1:47:16.160 playing the Aufs. They said, Yo, Dad, you ever you 1:47:16.240 --> 1:47:19.280 ever heard of this rapper? And he started playing mad Villain. 1:47:19.360 --> 1:47:19.920 He stopped playing. 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:20.160 MF. 1:47:20.280 --> 1:47:20.439 Dooing. 1:47:20.840 --> 1:47:22.320 I ain't put him on into this ship. He just 1:47:22.400 --> 1:47:25.960 discovered the ship on his own, like rest in peace 1:47:25.960 --> 1:47:26.320 to MF. 1:47:26.400 --> 1:47:26.639 Doom. 1:47:27.080 --> 1:47:29.680 I was at New yorakan post Cafe. When he did 1:47:29.760 --> 1:47:31.680 his first show, he used to be zev love X 1:47:33.200 --> 1:47:34.599 and then he changed to MF Dooing. 1:47:34.640 --> 1:47:36.559 You're talking about him with the third Base recently before 1:47:36.640 --> 1:47:38.880 he had the metal mask. He did his first show 1:47:38.960 --> 1:47:42.160 at the New Yorekans Post Cafe. Shout out to Oz 1:47:42.280 --> 1:47:43.360 and Elie from Night Train. 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:48.320 They put that show on. He shout shout at my 1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:53.080 manc search. He had a stocking cap on. So so 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:55.160 my son is like fronting like he's trying to put 1:47:55.200 --> 1:47:58.080 me on the MF. Doom and I'm sitting here, I'm like, 1:47:58.120 --> 1:48:02.439 bro I was at his first fucking show. Yeah, hell yeah, 1:48:02.560 --> 1:48:04.080 but but but it was dope to me that my 1:48:04.160 --> 1:48:05.800 son could just discover it on its own. 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:07.840 So I mean, this hip hop shit, this sh is 1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:08.439 really colchre. 1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:10.679 This sh is away of life, like, this is really 1:48:11.240 --> 1:48:14.240 how we live, like like my kids could could attest 1:48:14.360 --> 1:48:17.439 man like I don't take It's not like mister Rogers. 1:48:17.439 --> 1:48:19.080 It's not like we come home and take our hip 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:21.320 hop off. A lot of motherfuckers that benefit from us, 1:48:21.600 --> 1:48:23.560 a lot of motherfuckers that profit off of us, A 1:48:23.600 --> 1:48:24.680 lot of motherfuckers. 1:48:24.280 --> 1:48:26.679 That have ownership in this ship from the labels or whatever. 1:48:27.000 --> 1:48:29.040 They go home and take their fucking hip hop off 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:31.400 like mister Rogers, right, they take the sims off, they 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:33.400 take whatever, because that's not really them. 1:48:35.320 --> 1:48:37.439 When we go home, we go it's how we are. 1:48:37.479 --> 1:48:38.400 It's twenty four seven. 1:48:38.479 --> 1:48:38.599 Man. 1:48:38.920 --> 1:48:41.880 I could FaceTime EFM at two o'clock in the morning 1:48:42.160 --> 1:48:44.040 and he's the same guy that he. 1:48:44.080 --> 1:48:46.080 Is, Like it ain't it ain't a home life and a. 1:48:46.080 --> 1:48:52.800 Hip hop answer, Yeah, I don't like FaceTime. 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:04.200 Drink Champs is a drink Champs LLC production hosts and 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:07.760 executive producers n O r E and dj e FN. 1:49:08.920 --> 1:49:10.000 Listen to Drink Champs on. 1:49:10.040 --> 1:49:15.000 Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 1:49:16.080 --> 1:49:18.519 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 1:49:18.600 --> 1:49:21.240 hosted by Yours truly, dj e FN and n O 1:49:21.439 --> 1:49:23.439 r E. 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