1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm Peanut Tilman and this is the special edition of 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: the NFL Player's Podcast, And today we are blessed to 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: have a really good friend of mine, Mr. RG three 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: or is it r G three or is it Robert Griffin? Well, 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: you know my full name. Most people don't know my 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: full name, and just call me. You call me, call 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: me Robert griff three stacks, peanuts, little little mentory when 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I was in seventh grade, whatever you wanna call So 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: it's funny. So I get I get notes from the producers, 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, I sent you some notes, blah blah blah. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: And I really didn't have to study him. I looked 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: over him, but I didn't have to study him, and 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: long behold when I walked through the door. A lot 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: of I don't think a lot of people know this, 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: but Robert and I we went to the same We 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: went to the same high school. We're from a small 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: country town, Texas. Both our parents from a military served 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: into military. And my roommate in college coached at his 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: junior high And I would go back when you were 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: seventh grade. I think I just finished my my rookie season, 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: and yeah, we were hooping at Covid Junior High, which 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: is the same junior high that I went to. So yeah, 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: we go back a long, long way, but I'll take 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: it back even further. I remember when I was in 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: high school. I think you were working on hurdles because 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: we were we were at the track. I was doing 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: something I might have been in high school working out 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: or something like that, and it was you and your 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: dad and it was a you track and you guys 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: were doing hurdles, working on some hurdles at the track. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: So we go way back. A lot of a lot 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: of um, A lot of people don't know that. So 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's good man. So what what you've been 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: up to lately. Well, at first I got to say, 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, I want everyone to know that we did 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: not go the same high school. I went to his 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: high school. Okay, he's the o G. And you know, 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I've always, as he praised on you because I really 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: do appreciate everything you did for me as a youngster 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: and it really helped shape my vision for what I 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do in the future. So when I was 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: in seventh grade balling with you, you know, he became 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: my favorite player. You know, he's one of the guys 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: that the reason I wore long hair. I know he 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: had dreads. I never got dreads, but I wanted long 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: hair because Charles p ut Tillman and him coming back 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: to spend time, you know, spend time with us as youngsters, 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: has really shaped my vision of how I go about 49 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: spending time and giving my time to the community because 50 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: it was big. We don't normally get that, you know, 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: in a small military town like Covers, Cold, Texas, we don't. 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: We don't get that very often. So I want to 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: say thank you so that everyone can hear that. That's 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: But as far as like what I've been up to, uh, 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, just having fun. You know, got up this 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: morning four am, gotta work out in. I don't know 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: if you're still doing those no, no, no, I I do. 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: I didn't do it today. I definitely I definitely get 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: my work out in. Yeah, I probably didn't. I figured 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: that you will be crowded here. Yeah, you know, a 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: lot a lot of exacts, a lot of you know, 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a guy. When I work out, I 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: don't want anybody in the gym, makes sense. I play 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: very explicit music like it's it's imperfectly. I'm not even 65 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm I'm an old school meathead. Uh. I 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: do cross fit. I own a cross fit gym. The 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: wife and I we gotta cross fit gym, the Tribal 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: Connection in Libertyville, just product placement. Yeah, but yeah, I'm 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: a I'm a I'm a gym rat man. I'm old school. 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: Are you running you do? Yeah? So I mean I'm 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, I was out, you know, I was out 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: of football last year and people ask me why, you know, 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: why haven't I like officially or come out and said 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm retired because you know, I'm doing the broadcasting with ESPN, 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: calling college games, doing NFL and college analysis. But uh, 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm thirty two. So I mean I did. 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Just you see Tom Brady. I don't have seven rings, 78 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: any rings, you know. I don't feel like I need 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: to retire at this point, just kind of still working out. 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Then in case I get that call, you know, like 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Eric at All got that call, So I would have 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: played safety. I would have played. I would have played. 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Rahem called me next time. I would have played safety 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: for you to go in the super Bowl. But I 85 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: would too. But now that I've been working out, kind 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: of you know, doing that thing and then that that 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: process that you know we go through as players in 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: anything that we do, has really helped me in this 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: next phase or whatever you want to call it, going 90 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: into TV broadcasting because it's all about hard work and dedication. 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: So working out this morning was as much for me 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: wanting to make make sure I'm ready to go physically 93 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: to play as it is just another part of the 94 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: process of continue to do what I'm used to doing, 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: which a lot of players, as you know, they struggle 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: once they have to transition to something else, even if 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: it is for a year or two and they come 98 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: back to play, they don't know really what to do 99 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: with themselves. So I try to keep that process the same, uh, 100 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: and just being a dad, you know, I'm a girl 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: dad three daughters six, moren two, Reese, Glory and gameya. 102 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: You know, trying to be a great the greatest husband 103 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: I can be every single day. Making my wife choose 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: me every day. That's that's the goal. Just choose me 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: every single day by whatever. That's So, how did you 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: get into the whole broadcast thing, like is it man? 107 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Did you seek it out or did they kind of 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: just come to you. I did not seek it out, 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and that's normally the things that that are best for you. 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: You know, we're both faith, faith based guys. So what 111 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: God has for he has for you. So I actually 112 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: met my broadcast agent, Mark Lepsalter about three years ago. 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: I wanted nothing to do with I wanted nothing to 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: do with TV. Uh, not just because I felt like 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna play for you know, extended period of time. 116 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to go in to TV. So 117 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: he hounded me, hounded me, hounded me for two straight years. 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: This past offseason. Uh, you know, my contract ends with 119 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Uh. And he says, I want you to 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: go take this. I want you to go take this audition. 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not taking audition. I don't want to 122 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: do it. He said, just go take the audition. Trust me, 123 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: it's for your best interests. Flew out to California, did 124 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: an audition with Fox Cold, did an audition calling game, 125 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: blew them away. They offered me a contract right on 126 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: the spot. Wasn't really prepared for that. ESPN found out 127 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: about it, brought me in front audition, called a game 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: for them. Uh, did some studio work. They both offered 129 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: me deals, and I held out for two months, trying 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: to just wait, because you know how it is if 131 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: you if you take another opportunity in league circles, they 132 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: can say, well, he's no longer a player, he's he's 133 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: one of those guys. And so I held out as 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,119 Speaker 1: long as I possibly could, and then in August kicked 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: off and the rest is history. Because it's it's just 136 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: been a great experience for me personally being at ESPN 137 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and and being on the other side. I've realized that 138 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to be the guys that we talked 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: about in the locker room, those talking heads that you're like, man, 140 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: this guy used to be a player. You don't have 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: to be that. You can you can just share what 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: your knowledge that you learned. For me twenty years of playing, 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: I just share that with the with the viewer, and 144 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: I try to explain everything in a way that my 145 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: wife would understand. And she understands football, understands football one 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: on one, but she don't understand football like we know football. 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: Most people don't. So when I do the talking and 148 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I do the analysis, I just try to explain it 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: in layman terms so that it's simple and easy to digest. 150 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: But that's been a lot of fun. Just don't just 151 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: don't do it like Tony Romo. Tony Romo, sometimes he'll 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: be like, it'll be an empty set, no back field, 153 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: it's just empty. Everyone's out, you know, lined up, and 154 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, all right, they're gonna either run it 155 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: or pass it on this play. He's like, Tony, shut up. 156 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: I got like a group chat and they'd be killing 157 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Tony Romo because he says stuff like that, and it's like, 158 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: come on, Tony, don't. I think I tweeted something one 159 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: time and I tweeted to the wrong Tony Romo, the 160 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: wrong account. I tweeted to the wrong guy, but he 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: I think it was. It was this year and one 162 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: of the playoff games, which bother. I gotta say this 163 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: was the best playoffs I think we've seen in I 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe in the history of the NFL. Every 165 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: single game was absolutely amazing. That Bill's Chief's game was 166 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: like the de facto Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, it's 167 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: like two we got, we got we gotta look at 168 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: this ship. We got two bowls. Unbelievable. It was dope. 169 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: It it was dope. It was dope. But he ended 170 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: up like they're gonna win the game if they don't 171 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: miss the field gold or I was like, damn it, Tony, 172 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: don't jinks don't man, But yeah, that's it's like all 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the stuff we talked about just as players, Um, you 174 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: don't want to jinks the kicker, So I don't ever 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: try to. I don't try to do that. I don't 176 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: ever if my you know, my my partner's gonna be like, 177 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: well he's he's been ninety nine out of ninety nine 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: on field goals inside of the thirty yard line. I'm 179 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: just like, can we please not do that? Uh, that way, 180 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: we don't jinks him. No one's coming to us and 181 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: getting out of getting mad at us for that. But 182 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: my wife did that. But with with Tony and just 183 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: any broadcaster in general, you just gotta trust your instincts. 184 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like he made his and he made 185 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: his name early on because he was predicting plays. But 186 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: now everyone pays attention to when he gets it wrong, 187 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: like you just did you said well, or always pointing 188 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: out the office is an empty set and this guy 189 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: is not a running quarterback or a dual threat quarterback. 190 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: And he says they're going to throw the ball. Okay, well, 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: we all understand that, but we try. You try to 192 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: avoid those pitfalls as a broadcaster, and I just want 193 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: people to have fun. Whatever school that they're representing, they're 194 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: rooting for, they want to hear stuff about that school, understood, right. 195 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: They don't want to always hear old stories about me 196 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: and Charles tell him and how you care to play 197 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: basketball with me when I was in the seventh grade. 198 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: They want to hear about their school. So I try 199 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: to make sure I focus in on that and pay 200 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: homage to the school, pay homage to the players, tell 201 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: their story the right way, because I think that's really 202 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: important to make sure that the player's story is told 203 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: the right way, that you don't attach negative things to 204 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: them that necessarily don't need to be there. Yeah, it's 205 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: I think you're doing a good job. You mentioned trying 206 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: to have fun and make it fun for the viewer. 207 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I think we got a different perspective of that. I 208 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: think it was it was a boxing fight. It was 209 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: a celebrity boxing match with I think Snoop commentated, but 210 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't remember it was. I don't remember who he was. 211 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: It was one of those I don't know and yeah, 212 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: he actually fought a real boxer. He did. He did 213 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: all right too. When Snoop was calling it was just 214 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: like I'm watching it with with the fellas at the CREB, 215 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and I think the response was so positive when he 216 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: called it, and the stuff that he was saying it 217 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: was hilarious, and I was like, Yo, this is imagine 218 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: if they called an NFL game like that, or a 219 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: basketball game or just just anything like it would it 220 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't make sports already fun looking wrong, but it would 221 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: just give it like a little a little twist. Um, 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: have you ever heard a football game in Spanish? I 223 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: have an NFL game by far the best. I wish 224 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: I understood Spanish. They're saying, but oh my god, come on, man, 225 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: turn it up, Turn it up, turn it up. When 226 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: I was in Carolina, coach very hispanic. Um. They called 227 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of games in Spanish and I don't know who. 228 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: I forget that the name of the broadcaster. I actually 229 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: listened to one of his. I listened to him. We 230 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: called a game against Tampa in we were at Tampa, 231 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: and I think Greg Olsen might have like caught the ball, 232 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: but it slipped off his hands and then ed Dixon 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: was just kind of like in the area running to 234 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: the ball and he caught it and then ran to 235 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: scored a touchdown and then the guy goes so so 236 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: as a jisols No, I was like, yeah, this is man. 237 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the helly just said, but it's 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: I want him to call all my games like the 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: energy that this man brought in in his room and 240 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: just to the fans of whoever was listening, Oh my god. 241 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of like in football, not American football, but football, 242 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: when they when you have the goals, I always just 243 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: think they would they be like because they don't have 244 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: very many in the game, right, so you know, it 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: could be one of nothing. So when they get that 246 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to really drive the point home, they do. But 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: even sometimes like an incompletion could be like the most 248 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: exciting and completion you've ever heard when you hear it 249 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: on the Spanish broadcast. But that type of excitement, like 250 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: you bring up Snoop Dogg Snoops an interesting you know 251 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: caveat because he has his own like area of like 252 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Snoop can do all of these things that are illegal 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: and no one cares. Okay, he makes it cool. It 254 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: makes it cool, so so Snoop calling that that that 255 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: boxing match wasn't was incredible. And sometimes with broadcasting college games, 256 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: NFL games, they want that buttoned up suit and tie, 257 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: very serious type of you know approach. And and you know, 258 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: I make sure when I go I dressed the part. 259 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: I make sure I looked the part all tidy and nice. 260 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: But I want to infuse a little bit of enthusiasm, 261 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of excitement into the broadcast. Not to 262 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: be a distraction, because you want the focus to be 263 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: on the game, but you want people to watch the 264 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: game and like you said, you're watching it with your boys, 265 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: and you feel like whoever's in the booth is sitting 266 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: right next to you. Yeah, that's what you want. And 267 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: that's that's what I That's where I try to attain 268 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: that what people feel like when they're watching the game, 269 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: and and and I'm calling it, I'm right there with 270 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: them the things they see, I'm seeing the same exact things. 271 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm bringing it to their attention. As opposed to going 272 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: into the game with an agenda I want to hit 273 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: this and this and this and this, and I don't 274 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: care what happens in the game. I'm gonna hit this, 275 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: and this and this. You don't approach it that way. 276 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: You go with the flow with the game. We had 277 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: a game with with Clemson and they have a running 278 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: back named Phil MafA. Me and Mark Jones, who is 279 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: my play guy been doing for a long time, we 280 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: talked and we said, you know, there's a good joke 281 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: that we can say if this guy makes it, really 282 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: great play. He makes a great play and I said, man, 283 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: that's a bad MafA. Right. People loved it. They start 284 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: going off making shirts about it, and people are afraid 285 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: or so ifep in the industry are afraid to do 286 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: those types of things because it's such a fine line 287 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: between what you can and can't say. But if you're 288 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: not willing to go up against that line, then people 289 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: don't really feel like you're real. You know, they don't 290 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: want to listen to someone who's going to be stale 291 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: when they're talking. You have to have your own approach, 292 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: and that's the way I try to approach it, just 293 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: to have fun with the viewer. But do you think 294 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: that people don't want to touch on certain things or 295 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: I shouldn't stay touch on certain things, but they don't 296 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: want to go there or make a mistake because it's 297 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: a canceled culture. And then I don't don't know what 298 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, do you know, I don't think it's 299 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if his cancel cultures a right? What 300 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: do you say it? It's just I'm with you though. 301 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: It's like you're one word from getting fired. Okay, you 302 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: say something the wrong way, one time, you're done. And 303 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: that's just the industry. So you have to be careful 304 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: to not cross that line, but also not be afraid 305 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: to take a chance and and making that and and 306 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: and using that line. What was taking a chance that 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: someone could be like, oh no, I don't like that, 308 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: but fortunately for me and my guy Mark Jones, it 309 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: was it was taken well. And when I said that, 310 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: he said, shut your mouth right, and that that's stuff 311 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: that we know, that type of culture that you bring 312 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: to the masses, and and it it just makes the 313 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: game more enjoyable. What's been one of the best games 314 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: You've called? Man like my John Madden obviously one of 315 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: the greatest to to do it. Um, I like Al 316 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Michael's Like, I think those are my two my two 317 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: favorite broadcasters, and I love I love I just love 318 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: how they how they call the game, like, what what 319 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: has been your John moment? Of of of game calling. 320 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've had a job John Madden moment, 321 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: but I would say, you know, when I first got 322 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: in the booth ten minutes before the game, they're telling 323 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: me what the illustrator is, which is what you see 324 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: people draw on the screen, on the screen with They're 325 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: telling me what the playback button is. Hey, if you 326 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: got a cough, push this button ten minutes later live TV. 327 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: So what did I lean on when I when I 328 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: first got in I leaned on Michaels. I leaned on 329 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: John Madden, but I played Madden, who didn't play Madden. 330 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: All those types of things that are that they're talking about. 331 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: I leaned on that to be like, Okay, how am 332 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I gonna express what I'm seeing concisely and digest and 333 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: make it digestible for the viewer. So I leaned on 334 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: those guys. So I don't think I've had that that 335 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: type of moment or would even compare myself. Uh, you 336 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: know to the late great John Madden, prayers up to 337 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: to him and his family. Um, but for me, it's 338 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: been it's more about moments. The best game that we 339 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: called throughout the year was probably n C State upsetting 340 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: Clemson when they were still ranked really really high. Um, 341 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, and he stay was at home and Riley 342 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: was a great, great game over time, Um, you know, 343 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: came down to the last play, last catch. But more 344 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: of the moments, like we had the Kenny Pickett fake 345 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: slide that was our game with with Mark Jones when 346 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: he was I mean, I know you were mad about 347 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: it and we and we can talk about it, but 348 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: that that was that was that was That was a moment. 349 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: That was great. We had a moment where Lawrence told 350 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: Philly for Florida State got tackled but didn't get tackled, 351 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: so it was like on the sideline and he and 352 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: he fell on top of the defender, bounced right back 353 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: up and ran for like a sixty seven yard touchdown. 354 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: It was It's the moments that like you get caught 355 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: up in those types of environments and you can feel 356 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: the crowd and the energy and it really fills you up. 357 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: But when you talk about that that Kenney Pickett fake slide, 358 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: you I never did he did? He did Kenny Kenny 359 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Pickett with the Oh my god, I thought it was jus. 360 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was genius. So in the moment, we 361 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: were just in awe. We enjoyed the moment with with 362 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: the crowd. That was Pitt fans, right because because I 363 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: think it was way for us and that was a 364 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: c C champion and they didn't like that. But it 365 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: was genius because he started to slide, saw the defender 366 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: ease up, which he's supposed to do, right, because you're 367 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: not supposed hitt the quarterback when he slided, and then 368 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: he continued to go. It wasn't against the rules. It 369 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, a lot of people came out and 370 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: said that it should be against the rules, and it's 371 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: a loophole. It's a little it should be against the rules. 372 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: But it was a loophole and he exploited it. Yeah, perfectly. 373 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: I applaud him for it. It It needed to happen for 374 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: them to change because the defenders in that situation, you're saying, 375 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do? If you're in that situation, 376 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: now that you've seen it, you probably just go hit him. 377 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna hit you every day 378 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: every time, and I'm an acting like I'm trying to 379 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: pee up, punching on up, punching your damn stomach every time. 380 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: But I did think that the outrage for the fake 381 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: slide kind of dulled just how impressive it was because 382 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: if you actually watch him go through that process, not 383 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: just the thinking part of it, because that's the next 384 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: level thinking, which is why I love him for the 385 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: for the NFL, for that next level thinking, not that 386 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna pull off fake slides, but just the way 387 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: he sees the game. But also the athleticism, because I 388 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: can tell you right now nine nine out of ten 389 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: fans that would try that would blow out both their knees. 390 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: I would say ten, it probably ten, probably ten out 391 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: of ten. But he didn't do it. He he was 392 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: able to pull it off and then show people like 393 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: like a little burst like Gney Pickett. He's not sneaky athletic. 394 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: I hate that word, by the way. He's not sneak athletic. 395 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: He's athletic. The kick can run, he can throw, you know, 396 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's an impressive prospect for these 397 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: teams that are looking for quarterbacks. But that that play 398 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: on its own will will live in infamy forever. So 399 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: you you had something similar like you would run to 400 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the sideline and then guys would slow up, and then 401 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: you would take another three fold steps and they'd be like, okay, 402 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: so now so so peanuts talking from experience because he 403 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: won't say it, so I'll said he picked me off 404 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL one time, but I got him back 405 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: in the later in that game, I threw a touchdown 406 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: on him, but he did pick me off, and in 407 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: that game that was my rookie year. I did do that. 408 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: And I did that a little bit in college, where 409 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: you kind of run towards the sideline, make it look 410 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: like you're gonna run out the bounds and give yourself 411 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: up and then you sneak into another two or three yards. Now, 412 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: I never ran out of bound, ran towards out of 413 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: bounds and then cut back across the field. But or 414 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: and you kind of would run out of bounds like 415 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of take a little slow step, get hit, get 416 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: the fifteen yard penalty. But they don't. They don't allow 417 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. The refs they've they've they've piped the game, 418 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: should I say, But trying to bend those rules and everything, 419 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: you gotta don't try to do that. But Kenny Pikett. 420 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't think he was trying to bend the rules. 421 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: I just think he I think it's happened in the moment. Yeah, 422 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: I think it. I think it. I think it happened 423 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: at the moment. Yeah, I just remember watching that game. Actually, 424 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I saw it live. I think I 425 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: woke up the next morning and I saw the outrage. 426 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I saw excitement. But as a as a defensive player, 427 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm waiting for us, I'm just like, are 428 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: you serious? Like if I'm the coach and I'm not 429 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: mad at my players, I tell hey, if they're sliding, 430 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: go down, ease up. So I as a coach for 431 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the opposing team, yeah, it's frustrating. It's because the game 432 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: is you could have you could have won that game exactly, 433 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and the game has become so offense friendly. I'm sure 434 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: it's just been driving you crazy over the past couple 435 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: of years because every rule has been put in to 436 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: protect the offensive guys from getting hit across the middle. 437 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: There's the quarterbacks are making throws today that when I 438 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: came in the league in twelve, we wouldn't even think 439 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: about throwing. There's a competition committee room, right around the 440 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: corner that I really want to be a part of 441 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: because I think you should be. I'm looking in it 442 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: like I'm just I don't know. I get I get 443 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: so frustrated, and I'm on these group chats with a 444 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: lot of my friends, and so oh, here we go. 445 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: How is it that first intent of the fifty you 446 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: guys are going in right? How is it that you 447 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball? I'm curving a guy I passed in infurience. 448 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: It's dp I all day long, defensive passion and friends 449 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: all day long. How is it that you get and 450 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: then say you were going for for the gusto touchdown? 451 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: End zone passion affairs? Now it's first in goal at 452 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: the at the two. Like, okay, Now we'll flip it, 453 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: same exact play, except I'm gonna pick it and the 454 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: receiver hits me right, I'll just give him fifteen yards 455 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: fifteen yards back? How was that fair? I'll take another step, father, 456 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: How is it fair if I tell touch you after 457 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: five yards? Right? I just touch you after I touch 458 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: you six yards? I touch you five and a half yards, right, 459 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: you go run your little route. You dropped the ball. 460 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Good play, good play, not holding holding automatic first down? 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: Even though it's like third and seventy two, it's automatic 462 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: first down, Like, how is that that is? That is 463 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: not fair? It ain't right? All right, it's not it 464 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: ain't right. It's not he's having a moment. It's not 465 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: it's not fair. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's 466 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: not fair. But offenses, I'm gonna do one more for you. 467 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do one more for you. I'm a defensive player. 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: I cannot hit you in the face at all. I 469 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: can't come close to your face mask right, I can't 470 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: tackle you and hit you like that. You have the ball, 471 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: you can take all your frustration that your coach has 472 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: been hounding on you all week long, all the stuff 473 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: your wife been yelling at your kids. You're trying to 474 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: potty train them and they pumping and doing everything, and 475 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: people calling youth for tickets, and you're trying to like, 476 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm just and you can hit someone scores smack in 477 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: the face, stiff farm, stiff farm, Derrick Henry style. They 478 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: won't call it, they won't say nothing. How is that fair? 479 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: It's not. But it's like a microcosm of life. Life's 480 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: not fair. But offense, In my opinion, offense is a 481 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: lot harder to play and execute than defense. That that's 482 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: what I would say. So I think some of the 483 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: rules are geared towards uhle should be honest, some of 484 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: the rules are geared towards offense score points because you 485 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: know money, you know, offense, people brings them. People want 486 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: to see points on the board. But you're you're right, 487 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: some of those rules are they're not They don't go 488 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: both ways. But yeah, it life's not fair. I don't 489 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. The guys aren't gonna stop 490 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: steph arming. You know, for as many guys that get 491 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: hit for holding or you know, holding down the field 492 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: for past five yards, Uh, there's guys that aren't getting 493 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: called that almost you know, there's almost every single play 494 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: old line D line you'd call holding on the offensive line. Literally, 495 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: offensive blocking is holding. This is that That's all it is. 496 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: It's holding. They're not just playing Patti kick out there. 497 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: They're grabbing guys but shoulder pads and trying to move them. 498 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: So it literally is holding. But you do have a 499 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: point about that. But I wanted to, you know, bring 500 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: some attention to this this shirt that that I got 501 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: on right now, this is my Combine shirt ten years ago, 502 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: right under armor QB six got Griffin on the back. 503 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: My wife saw it in the closet, said, you know 504 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: you should wear this would be funny. I thought. I thought. 505 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: I thought she was right, it would be pretty funny. 506 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: So this morning I get up. I don't have my credential. 507 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: All right, he's peanut tellingan right, he doesn't need a credential. 508 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: But I don't have my credential. So I'm walking in 509 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: the convention center. They spot me. They They're like, hey, 510 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing over here? It's like, I'm trying 511 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: to get to breakfast. I need to get over uh 512 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: to the to the Crown Plaza. I don't know hop 513 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: in you know, how's your experience been? So now in 514 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: my head, I'm understanding that they think I'm a player. 515 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: They think I'm an actual Combine invitee, and I have 516 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: no credential, and they're driving me through the entire convention center, 517 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: past every single, every single credential checkpoint to get to 518 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: the breakfast. So I get over to the breakfast, they 519 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: walk me through everything. They say, hey, where's your credential? 520 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: That I said, Oh man, I left it in the room. 521 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: I don't even have a good dential, guys, I I 522 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: didn't even I'm here to mentor the quarterbacks for on 523 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: field today, just trying to give back, uh to the 524 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: guys that are going to take over the league. But 525 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a credential. So you know, I'm whying 526 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: it's in my rooms, Like okay, okay, you gotta make 527 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: sure you bring it with you everywhere you go. Then 528 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: the guy who's escorted me proceeds to tell me that 529 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: a guy tried to sneak in to the Combine yesterday, 530 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, shows up, says, hey, I'm here to perform 531 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: blah blah. He's like, yeah, but we got him. And 532 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at him like he one. He 533 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: has no idea. He has no clue that I already. 534 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: He has no clue that I am actually not an 535 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: actual invite to the Combine this year, has no clue 536 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: who who I am in general. And I get over 537 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: the breakfast. I'm hanging out. I'm Cavon Thibodeau sitting right 538 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: next to me with eating breakfast. I'm chopping it up 539 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: with the guys. You know, We're talking about plays and 540 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: all the sort of stuff. And then I come back 541 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: and all the NFL execs and everybody, they're like, do 542 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: we need to interview this guy? You know, he looks good, 543 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: and it's when he's walking around I'm like, I'm I'm 544 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: just taking the compliments and like, man, that four am 545 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: work out, it really paid off. But as they got 546 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: closer to him, they're like, it's Robert Griffin the third 547 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: Hey man, good to see you, blah blah blah blah 548 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: blah blah. But I just thought it was hilarious that, 549 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't plan on sneaking into the combine 550 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: the day, but I probably could have kind of want 551 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: to hit the bench press, maybe throwing a couple of 552 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: passes and have been pretty fun. Of the story is 553 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: just act like you know what you're doing, just what 554 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: you're doing, and so I I think I threw out 555 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: the first pitton. I was in Carolina at one of 556 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: the Farm Minor League Triple A teams and I was 557 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: told to go, like, I'll go to his back door 558 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: and someone will, all right meet you there. I hit 559 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: the little door, hit the doorbell, the door opens, I 560 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: go in. There's no one there. So I'm like, where 561 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: the hell am I supposed to go. So I go 562 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: through another door. I'm in the kitchen. So I was like, 563 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna just act like I know 564 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, so I see if anyone notices people 565 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: are cooking, they got their chefs outfit, and I'm just walking. 566 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea where I'm going. I walked through 567 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: another door, boom, I'm in the stadium, and I was like, 568 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I just I just snug into this the stadium, and 569 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: they have no idea. I have no idea where I'm going. 570 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: So then I just I just acted like I knew 571 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: what I was doing. No ticket, no nothing, just just 572 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: walked in the place. So you know, if you ever 573 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: want to sneak into the combine or you want to 574 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: sneak into you know, the chef's area, just act like 575 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing and where similar attire where. 576 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: So I got the QB six on, so instantly they 577 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: all thought, he's here with Kenny Pickett and Malique Willis. 578 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I am, but I'm not competing today. That would be interesting, 579 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, like Dion when he when he kind of 580 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: what was his name, when he when he wore the 581 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: afro and ran at the Combine. Oh yeah, yeah, Leon Sandcastle. 582 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: That's a dope name. That's a dope name. I don't 583 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: have a dope name like that. What would they call me? 584 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, R two D two getting ready to run 585 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: the forties something like that. I've gotten that a couple 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: of times. A couple I recently went and got a 587 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: I had, like I still wear my bears like old sweats. Right, 588 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: let's go get some food. It's snowing out. Whatever I got, 589 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, Jodion were not masks, and I'm waiting at 590 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: the bar for them to bring out my foot and 591 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I see this, you know, they're whispering and you see 592 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: the heads turned. I'm like, they are the thing. I'm 593 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: peanut to him or they think I'm a player. So 594 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: then the lady was like, so, you're gonna get us 595 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: some interceptions this season, and I was like yeah, I'm yeah, 596 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm forty one. She made me feel so good, like 597 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: I look like I still play. I was like, hell, yeah, yeah, 598 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get some interceptions, some punches to some tackles. 599 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: I might even throw a touchdown. But you do you 600 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: do look like you still play, And tell me it 601 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: doesn't make you proud when you see a guy like 602 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey or these corners out there, Tyron Matthew, guys 603 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: constantly going in and punching the ball out because I mean, 604 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: you can't say you you invented that, because it's football 605 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: and it's probably happened in the past. But you're probably 606 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: one of the most recognizable guys when it comes to 607 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: the peanut punch. I think you're right. I don't think 608 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: I invented it. I think I invented it. I invented 609 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: a style of forcing fumbles, if that, If that makes sense, 610 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: I think I invented a style of forcing fumbles. And yeah, 611 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: I I take uh. I take pride when commentators broadcasters say, oh, 612 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Peanut Tomin is smiling somewhere. Uh. Greg 613 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Olsen has done me a really good service by showing 614 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: me love on Fox when he's on the broadcast, and 615 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: not just in them, but a lot of the other 616 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: broadcasters have have done it. Um. I think whatever you 617 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: do in life, whether it's broadcasting, a mentor playing. If 618 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm a cameraman, you want to leave your mark on 619 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is your craft is. I want to be 620 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: the best producer. I want to be the best sound engineer. 621 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I want to be the best cameraman. You know what, 622 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm the one who invented the tight shot on the football, 623 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: and then I bring it out. Why like some someone 624 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: started that first, Like whoever that guy is, he's known 625 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: for it. So when it's all set and done, my legacy, yeah, 626 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: it'll be known. You know, the peanut punch and everything 627 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: like that. And having kids being a dad, yeah, man, 628 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: I want them to to to like him. My dad 629 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: did this. Well, what can I leave my mark on 630 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: in life, whether it's school or you know, whatever job 631 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: they they do, Like, like, how can I help my profession? 632 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it's it's good. I'm I'm I'm glad 633 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: it was. It was fun. And then you know, for 634 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: a guy like myself who looked up to you when 635 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I was growing up and to see how your career went. 636 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: I know from myself, if I never play another down, 637 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a Hall of Famer. And 638 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: even if I played for ten more years, there's there's 639 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: a chance that I could never be a Hall of 640 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Famer or play at a Hall of Fame level. I 641 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: believe I could, but right now that's that's just not 642 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: what's in the cards for me, but I haven't watched 643 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: your career. I think you're a Hall of Famer because 644 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: of what you just said. You left your mark on 645 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: the game for me. Uh you know, Heisman Trophy winner, 646 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: that's college right, NFL Rookie of the Year, that's that 647 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: was just my my first year in the league. So 648 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: the mark that that I can claim is isn't as 649 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: great as the one that you can. And I know 650 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: you're not campaigning for for me to to to bring 651 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: you up on broadcasts, but when it comes to when 652 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: I see that, you're the first person I think about. Now, 653 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm biased because I went to your high school, so 654 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: you know I I see that more often and I 655 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: appreciate and I appreciate you at a level I don't 656 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: even think you quite understand. But that type of impact 657 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: is exactly what I'm trying to do in everything in life. 658 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to have that impact and leave my mark 659 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: on my children. I'm trying to have that impact and 660 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: leave my leave that mark on my wife. In the 661 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: broadcasting industry, right, the people that I meet, the relationships 662 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 1: that you build more times than not. As you know, 663 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: it's a cliche, but it's true. It's not what you know, 664 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: it's who you know and how people remember you. So um, 665 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to say thank you to 666 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: you for you know, inspiring me to to do that 667 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and be that kind of guy, be that type of 668 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: guy that's going to leave a positive mark on everyone 669 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: that he comes in contact with. And uh, yeah, man, 670 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: you're the greatest. I'm not the greatest, but he's the 671 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: greatest peanut puncher of all. Thanks for coming on the show. Man. Hey, 672 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm Peanuts Tuman. That's r G three and that is 673 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: the NFL Players Podcast. Thanks for joining us on the 674 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: NFL Players Podcast. 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