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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Fire, Fayl. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight

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Speaker 2: Foyer for Wednesday, October twenty ninth. Then good news, folks.

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Speaker 2: Nobody had to stay up until two to three in

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Speaker 2: the morning on the East Coast to watch Game four

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Speaker 2: of the World Series. It's kind of a news or

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Speaker 2: everybody was excited. Otani was pitching and the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: kind of got the better of him and then open

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Speaker 2: Game five today tied at to a piece. Not much

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Speaker 2: takeaway from the World Series Game four. It's not like

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Speaker 2: Otani was bad. They the Blue Jays were just desperate

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Speaker 2: and they got hits and the Dodgers once again really

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Speaker 2: did not in the bullpen failed. But we move on

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Speaker 2: to Game five tonight, the final game at Dodger Stadium

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Speaker 2: for the season, the final game in the United States

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Speaker 2: for the two thy twenty five MLB season. The series

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Speaker 2: will shift to Toronto for Games six and seven. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe Games six and seven will be Friday and Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Halloween weekend. Unbelievable. Anyways, You've got a

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Speaker 2: great podcast today, great great guest, Tim Brando. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: guys know Tim Brando if you watch sports, college hoops,

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Speaker 2: college football, NFL. I don't know. Maybe he's called some NBA,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But Tim Brando on one of the

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Speaker 2: great announcers. He's just and he's an oracle when it

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Speaker 2: comes to LSU football, LSU basketball, and so LSU fired

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Speaker 2: their coach Brian Kelly and Rob g had the bright eyedea, hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: we haven't talked to Tim Brando this season. Boom, let's

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Speaker 2: get him. So really good stuff from Tim Brando. Interesting

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Speaker 2: on the LSU coaching search. We disagree a little bit

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Speaker 2: on some names, which is fine, you know, and we

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Speaker 2: He said somebody has a better resume. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you could guess who. But it is interesting. It's not

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Speaker 2: an SEC team. I'll just leave it at that. But

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Speaker 2: great stuff from Tim Brando. And obviously we will have

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Speaker 2: a podcast previewing the huge Thursday night football game Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson returns. Actually it's not that huge, and what else

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Speaker 2: will'll be Game five, so we'll have a little more baseball, obviously,

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Speaker 2: some more NBA and NFL. There wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 2: five and oh, Giannis had a really good game against

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Speaker 2: the Knicks. My sixers. I am claiming them they got

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Speaker 2: so tonight there's actually a really good slate. Lakers, Timberwolves,

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Speaker 2: MAVs are favored by six and a half over anyone,

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Speaker 2: to our guest college football an ountar, Timbrando.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Right has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think

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Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for.

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Speaker 3: Everything he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of

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Speaker 2: He knows everything there is to know about not only

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Speaker 4: Why is I like to say, sometimes been around so

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Speaker 2: You know, LSU as well as anybody, the decision to

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Speaker 2: First of all, were you surprised? And then b you know,

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Speaker 4: Surprised, No, no, not surprised, disturbed at the direction that

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Speaker 4: I think he'll survive it, but not without a heck

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Speaker 4: they're gonna vote the morals clause, they're gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things again, It's always

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Speaker 4: And ultimately LSU football is the most important thing in

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Speaker 4: Grambling when when LSU's playing, you're still rooting for LSU, okay,

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Speaker 4: it'll be a little tougher maybe, but they've got some personnel,

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Speaker 3: There's no question he had lost some of that.

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Speaker 3: It was a colossal mistake. And I do know Brian.

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Speaker 4: Privately, he probably won't tell Alabama that, but I think

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Speaker 4: Points to make about Penn State in the Big ten,

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Speaker 3: That's why Nick Saban took the job. When he left

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Speaker 4: He had done a study that you know, the first

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Speaker 3: Okay, more money, more.

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Speaker 4: And you know what Satan did was effectively prove to everyone,

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Speaker 4: But but I'm gonna tell you Jay Matt that Lane

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Speaker 4: He has owned up to his mistakes and and and

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Speaker 4: one that said, you know what, we're going to do this,

434
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Speaker 4: which took some houtzbuck given what his image was. All right,

435
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Speaker 4: and Keith Carter, a former basketball players. Now the ad

436
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Speaker 4: at ole Miss is he's got all the money, all

437
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Speaker 4: the backing that you could possibly imagine in the state

438
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Speaker 4: of Mississippi could have, and whatever they're gonna throw at

439
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Speaker 4: him financially at LSU, whatever Jimmy Sexton, his agent thinks

440
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 4: he's gonna get Fraim at Florida, ole Miss is gonna

441
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Speaker 4: be able to counter.

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Speaker 3: They will be able to come back and say thirteen

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Speaker 3: point five mili fifteen mil, Yeah, we got we got it.

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Speaker 4: And here's the difference, Jay mac. If you're at Florida,

445
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: they've already got statues of Spurrier Urban t Bow. If

446
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: you go to LSU, they got statues of Dietzel Saban.

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Speaker 2: You know. Uh.

448
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Speaker 3: And by the way, Oorseron's home blooded South Louisiana Cajun.

449
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Speaker 3: So you know, once the dust settles, I think I

450
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Speaker 3: think ed we'll probably get his too. Okay, So you're

451
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Speaker 3: you're in the.

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Speaker 4: Shadow still of those names that have brought championships, national championships,

453
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Speaker 4: and that ole Miss Johnny Vaught was that more than

454
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: a couple of generations ago. Okay, with with Archie Manning

455
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Speaker 4: playing waterback. I mean the City six three team, the

456
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 4: sixty nine team that played in the Sugar Bowl. They

457
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: didn't win an SEC championship that year, but they played

458
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Speaker 4: and won the Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Listen, this is all new to ole Miss.

460
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Speaker 4: He could be if he stayed, he could be the

461
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Speaker 4: guy that they're talking about fifty years from now, one

462
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Speaker 4: hundred years from now. He's the guy that could be

463
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Speaker 4: the Bear Bryant of ole Miss or the Nick saban

464
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Speaker 4: Or of Alabama.

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Speaker 3: He'll be compared to Spurrier when he gets to Florida.

466
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Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons why Florida thinks they've

467
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Speaker 4: gotten in on him, is because he has said publicly

468
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Speaker 4: how much he loved the way Spurrier needled the opposition

469
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Speaker 4: then through Salvos at other coaches, which he did, and

470
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Speaker 4: their personalities are similar.

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Speaker 3: But why be the next Spurrier when you can be

472
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Speaker 3: the one and only Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 4: And he is at ole Miss and forever will be

474
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Speaker 4: if he stays, so I don't think he's I don't

475
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Speaker 4: think he's going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: So Matt Campbell is the name who was hot a

481
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Speaker 2: few years ago, Iowa State coach. He's cooled down a bit.

482
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Speaker 2: Is he a sneaky name here to watch or is

483
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Speaker 2: this not really a regional fit because everybody's mentioned the

484
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Speaker 2: two lane guys somehow he's young, you know what, I

485
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Speaker 2: don't know. That's quite a leap to go to LSU

486
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Speaker 2: from where he's been. But I don't know. I think

487
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Speaker 2: Campbell might be a sleeper here to watch. No.

488
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Speaker 3: And the reason is he's a culture program builder.

489
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Speaker 4: He builds through a culture of three stars and guys

490
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Speaker 4: that are not highly recruited that he really makes into

491
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Speaker 4: better players.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, coach him a yeah, he coaches him up.

493
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Speaker 4: And a lot of guys from Iowa State that are

494
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Speaker 4: littered through the NFL now to have done what he's

495
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Speaker 4: done to win as many games as he has, and

496
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Speaker 4: he's still looking for a big twelve title. Lost the

497
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Speaker 4: championship game to Arizona State last year Cam s Kataboo.

498
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Speaker 4: But he yeah, he's not the guy because I think

499
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Speaker 4: the question would be, well, do we know that his

500
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Speaker 4: coaching would translate to these five stars coming out of

501
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Speaker 4: urban locations like New Orleans, And.

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Speaker 3: The answer to that may be maybe not. We don't know,

503
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: So we don't know.

504
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Speaker 4: They're gonna go with someone that they believe and this

505
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Speaker 4: is just my thought, They're going to go with someone

506
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Speaker 4: that they believe is a younger version of Saban, one

507
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Speaker 4: that can acclimate to the times where you have to

508
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Speaker 4: understand how to build through the portal and through recruiting,

509
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Speaker 4: keep your high school base solid because you want your

510
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Speaker 4: you want your roster to be about seventy percent high

511
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Speaker 4: school recruited, but that twenty five to thirty percent that's

512
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Speaker 4: out of the portal. You got to get the right ones.

513
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 4: You can't make mistakes on these guys and those people

514
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Speaker 4: skills that we're talking about. The guys that have those

515
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: that are currently coaching today are Dan Lanning, who's not available.

516
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Speaker 4: He's not leaving Oregon.

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Speaker 2: He's not leaving Oregon.

518
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Speaker 4: Right closest thing to Dan Lanning with a pulse that's

519
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: about his age is his former offensive coordinator now the

520
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Speaker 4: head coach at Arizona State, Kenny.

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Speaker 2: Dillingham, ohha, would leave well.

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Speaker 3: I think the potential of him leaving for an offer

523
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Speaker 3: quite like.

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Speaker 2: That because his quarterback is going to be going to

525
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Speaker 2: the pro. Let Me ask you Clark Lee at Vanderbilt

526
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Speaker 2: mm hmmm. I think he's more phenomenal jup. I think

527
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Speaker 2: he's going to Penn State, But I don't.

528
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Speaker 3: Know what he could he could.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that Penn State wants to go after

530
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Speaker 4: another Vanderbilt coach after where that would be a turrent

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Speaker 4: I think maybe for them. But but but Clark is

532
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Speaker 4: going to be a big name head coach at a

533
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Speaker 4: bigger school sometime soon.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that at all.

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Speaker 2: How About Jeff Brahm at at.

536
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Speaker 3: Louis another one.

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Speaker 4: That's another when you take a look at him without questioning,

538
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: Jeff's a big time offensive, mighty coach.

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Speaker 3: I do think offense is the direction LSU wants to

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Speaker 3: go in.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Dellighan being an offensive coordinator is another reason why

542
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Speaker 4: I like him potentially for the job at LSU. Bottom

543
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: line to all of this is the guy's got to

544
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Speaker 4: be He's got to be able to deal head on

545
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: individually with players and get the most out of them.

546
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Speaker 4: The players need to know that the guy loves them.

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Speaker 4: Everybody that plays at Arizona State loves Kenny Dillingham. I mean,

548
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: they absolutely love it now. I do think he dreamed

549
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Speaker 4: of turning Arizona State into what it was with Frank

550
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Speaker 4: Kush when he was growing up. He saw Snyder and

551
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Speaker 4: a few other guys have good teams. Arizona State's always

552
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Speaker 4: been screwed up with their administration. They didn't have the

553
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Speaker 4: right president, didn't have the right ad. I think Dillingham

554
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Speaker 4: has sort of galvanized all that, so it'll be hard

555
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Speaker 4: for LSU to get him really hard.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he'd take it, but he's the first.

557
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Speaker 3: He's the guy that I would make sure that I

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Speaker 3: had him for an interview. I would have him in

559
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Speaker 3: for an interview. I'd make him say no.

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Speaker 4: The other guy that you've probably forgotten about, also young,

561
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Speaker 4: not currently a head coach in college, Joe Brady Oh,

562
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Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator at Buffalo. Joe was the OC for

563
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Speaker 4: Burrow where they want it All in twenty nineteen, and

564
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Speaker 4: if you check Joe Burrow's numbers in the two years

565
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Speaker 4: preceding Brady becoming the head coach.

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Speaker 3: They weren't.

567
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Speaker 4: They were pedestrian, right, Joe was not all of that

568
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: until he had Joe Brady, and that spread offense going

569
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Speaker 4: and wait.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, let me let me

571
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Speaker 2: ask Brady. I see he has like second or third

572
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: best odds, Tim, and you're onto something here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My question is, yes, we loved him at LSU. He's

575
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Speaker 2: done a good job with Josh Allen. I mean, anybody

576
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Speaker 2: can what happened with those two years in Carolina. It's

577
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: like kind of glossed over where he was the OC

578
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Speaker 2: under Matt Ruhle. Now you could argue, hey, it had

579
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Speaker 2: to do with COVID years and blah blah blah, but

580
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: all of that he did nothing. And I just wondered, Listen, hey, Tim,

581
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Speaker 2: you know you work with Joe Burrow and and and

582
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. You gotta be pretty pretty damn successful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but you probably know Brady. I don't

585
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Speaker 2: know him at all. Have yours spoken to that?

586
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: I have.

588
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: And I think he's he's smart and shrewd. He's he's

589
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Speaker 3: good with people. Uh.

590
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: You know, he also had with him an old hand

591
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: was up there with him helping him coordinate that offense

592
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: name Steve Ensminger, and Steve was the offensive coordinator prior

593
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: to Brady arriving. And then when Joe got there, he

594
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: was bringing the Saints offense in straight from Sean Payton.

595
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: That was the Saints offense with Breeze and all those guys,

596
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Speaker 4: and Joe brought it in and Ensminger worked along with him,

597
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: and the combination of.

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Speaker 3: The two were just fantastic.

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Speaker 4: And I think Steve, who's still got a voice now

600
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Speaker 4: you've retired, but I think he's got a voice that

601
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: would be heard by a lot of people, would be

602
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Speaker 4: championing the thought of maybe bringing Joe.

603
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Speaker 3: Brady in now.

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Speaker 4: Now the drawback with him might be timing because of

605
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: the NFL and the playoffs, right, Yeah.

606
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: And that's also a problem with Lane.

607
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Speaker 4: If they believe they can get Lane, fine, But if

608
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 4: you look at old Missus schedule, that win they got

609
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: over Oklahoma last week huge, I mean, they they they

610
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Speaker 4: they are going to be favored and every game they

611
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Speaker 4: got left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going on to the SEC schedule, They're going

613
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Speaker 3: to go to the playoffs. So you'd have to wait

614
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Speaker 3: for him.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know that they can be as patient

616
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Speaker 4: to wait for someone like Lane who they don't even

617
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Speaker 4: know would really want to take the job in the end.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So let me.

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Speaker 2: Ask we could wrap up to Tim. I know you

620
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Speaker 2: got a lot going on aside from LSU. Is anybody

621
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Speaker 2: beating Ohio State this year? And if so, give me

622
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: two or three teams you think that you've see that

623
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Speaker 2: you like that could hang with him, because right now,

624
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: according to a lot of the Vegas Power rankings, it's

625
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Speaker 2: Ohio State and everyone else. It's not even particularly close.

626
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well the head of the class of everyone else

627
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: in Indiana and Indiana is better. Really, yes, Indiana is better.

628
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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza is better. Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: He you know, you think about it.

630
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Speaker 4: Rourke was the player of the year in the Big

631
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: Ten last year, the kid that came over with him.

632
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Speaker 4: And this is one of the reasons why Kurt Signetti

633
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Speaker 4: was so successful. And by the way, his success is

634
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: another reason you're seeing these coaches being fired immediately in

635
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: season because suddenly all these that hood directors think, well, hell, Indiana,

636
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: did it just bring in Kurt Signetti? Well, what they

637
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: forget is that Kurt Signetti brought just about everybody from

638
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: that JMU team that won the FCS title the year before.

639
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

640
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: So when you got like seventy percent of your team

641
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Speaker 4: coming with you, which he did, that gave him the

642
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: foundation to go out into the portal and get really

643
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: good guys, and he did.

644
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: But now they're even better.

645
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Speaker 4: And as good as Rourke was at quarterback, he's not

646
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Speaker 4: even close to as good as Fernando Mendoza. And I

647
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: picked them to go into Oregon and win because Mendoza

648
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: was successful at Cal, playing in Oregon himself in the

649
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 4: Pac twelve before he transferred in let me tell you something,

650
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: Strat and those guys, the Indiana team is still because

651
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: of the way we don't cover college football properly nationally,

652
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: they are still largely anonymous players. And that's why Signetty's

653
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: so big of a personality that he sucks all the

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00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: the attention away.

655
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Speaker 3: From the player.

656
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: The players are great, I mean great college players, and

657
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: he's going to have a number of guys in the NFL.

658
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 4: He's got some some NFL linebackers and NFL safeties that

659
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 4: would remind you of what Saban had and by the

660
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: way he coaches a lot like Saban. Now he's a

661
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: little more sharp tongued than Nick was in terms of

662
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: throwing out salthough you've got a little Spurrier and he

663
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: maybe a little Lane Kiffin.

664
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Speaker 3: Maybe a little Lane Kiffin too.

665
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: But but I think I've got I've got them ranked

666
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 4: the head of Ohio State because I think if you

667
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: look at what they've done, who they've beaten to this point,

668
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 4: They've played a tougher schedule, They've won the biggest road

669
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: game that you could possibly win at Eugene and did

670
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: so resoundingly. I mean that game wasn't even as close

671
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: as the score would indicate if you go back and

672
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 4: look at the tape. That's the thing that I would

673
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 4: pick to win at all. Right now over Ohio State

674
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: is Indiana.

675
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: Let me do the last one real quick, so as

676
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: a Jetsky will be drafting near the top. I don't see,

677
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: you know, Beck is kind of up and down. I'd

678
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: like Dante Moore. It doesn't sound like he's a lot

679
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: to come out. The guy I cat got my eye

680
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: on is Simpson at Alabama. Every time I watch him,

681
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: I love him. My question, though, Tim, is this guy

682
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: you know he sat around for like three or four years,

683
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: couldn't never beat out anybody. Now is he dominating as

684
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: a twenty three year old because he's older than everybody

685
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: and smarter? Or is he good because we all this

686
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: with Kenny Pickett at pitt stat forever plays forty touchdowns. Oh,

687
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: he's the first round pick and then he's not a

688
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: starter in the NFL.

689
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the problem. I think that that that they're

690
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: gonna have Alabama. I think's got at least one loss,

691
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: maybe two left in front of them. They have no

692
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 4: running game to go with him. He's carrying that team

693
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 4: right now, and he's carrying it by and large, and

694
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: not with his arm, but with his legs. He's become

695
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: really their leading rusher in most of their important games.

696
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: And that's not all by design.

697
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: Now.

698
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: He can run, Okay, he can run, but he's made

699
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: big play after big play whenever they've had to have it.

700
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 4: You know, for me, a guy like Dante Moore projects

701
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: as a better player. But I'm with you. I think

702
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: Dante's gonna hang. I think he knows he needs another year.

703
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: My partner, Devin Gardner, has been working with him since

704
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: he was coming out of adolescence into into high school

705
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 4: and we had yet, yeah, Elite elevens, all that stuff.

706
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: So I think I think he'll be very wise to

707
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: stay put for another year. But but right now, the

708
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: guy that you know, I think Fernando Mendoza is playing

709
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: at a higher level. He's playing at a higher level

710
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: than the Alabama quarterback in my view.

711
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: So it's it.

712
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's but he doesn't have the running statistics.

713
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: He he's not having to do as much as as

714
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 4: as Simpsons having to do it. If I look at

715
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: Alabama at this stage, it all depends on him if

716
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't make play after play after play when the

717
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: heat's on.

718
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, Alabama's got three losses already. They could have

719
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: easily lost to Missouri, could have easily lost to Vanderbilt again,

720
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: but managed to get those w's. But I think they're

721
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: susceptible in the rivalry game with Auburn.

722
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: Auburty's got a great roster now and they just got

723
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: off the schneine and finally won a game.

724
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: For you, his job on the line. He's desperate to

725
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: get as many wins as he can get.

726
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: Uh and and you know the schedule is is still

727
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: going to be difficult for Alabama to negotiate all the

728
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: way through. But well, before I let you go, okay,

729
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: I've got I've got a diamond in the rough on

730
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 4: the coaching at LSU.

731
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Speaker 3: I needed to throw that out, and that's Dan Mullen.

732
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: I think Dan Mullen.

733
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So it's interesting. Somebody mentioned him for Penn State,

734
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: and I asked my buddy, who's in the search firm industry,

735
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: I won't say his name, what's your story with Mullen.

736
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: He's like, there's a lot of rumors and allegations as

737
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: to what was going on at Florida. I guess he

738
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: was bending the rules or he was doing some stuff there,

739
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: which is why they ran himut. Because they kind of

740
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: ran him out quickly, and he hasn't surfaced anywhere.

741
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: For such a good coach.

742
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: It is weird that it took him so long to

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: get a job anywhere.

744
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, well that's true.

745
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: But in this day and time, rule bending forget about encouraged. Yes,

746
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: rule bending is allowed and whatever you need to do, okay.

747
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: And the book on him at Florida was he wasn't

748
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: interested in recruiting. That bothered a lot of the you

749
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: know the Gator Nation. Well, you know the problem at

750
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: Florida right now, they haven't done very well in the portal.

751
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: You know, pony up, give him the players. I think

752
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 4: the pressure to recruit at Florida is not as great

753
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: as it would have been the first time around for

754
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: Dan Okay. But now if he would have come to LSU.

755
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 4: You know, he's an offensive mind. There's no denying that

756
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 4: he's a very good play caller. And if you're looking

757
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 4: for somebody that's got play calling acumen to the tune

758
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 4: of and maybe a little bit of a quarterback whisper.

759
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: You look back at how Dak.

760
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: Dak came from me from Harton, Louisiana, you know, just

761
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: about thirty minutes east of my home here at Chateau Brando.

762
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: He was an afterthought in recruiting, an afterthought. And you

763
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: look at what Dak was able to do, got in

764
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: Mississippi State the number one in the country, and that's

765
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: something that really resonates in the SEC. People have not

766
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: forgotten that Dan Mullen got Mississippi State to number one

767
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: in the country in Week nine of the college football

768
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: season when Dak was there.

769
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Speaker 3: Now, they didn't win the championship.

770
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: They didn't get in the playoff, but he got him

771
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: to number one, and that matters if you think about it. Now,

772
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: listen to me for a second. If Dan Maullin had

773
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 4: chosen to stay at Mississippi State and not go to Florida, Okay,

774
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: he would have won a ton of games at Mississippi State,

775
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: maybe not a championship, but at Mississippi State, the statue

776
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: would already be up.

777
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

778
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: And the money now at.

779
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: All of these schools, j MC, because in the SEC

780
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: every school is going to invest in their college football program.

781
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: In the Big Ten, they get the money, they get

782
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 4: a lot of television money from our employer and many others,

783
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: right and the bottom line is not all of them

784
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: invested back into football. You tell me how UCLA can

785
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 4: be this broken down financially?

786
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: How? Why? How could that possibly be? I mean, you

787
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: have to have an administration that cares.

788
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: And you know, if you're in a if you're in

789
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: a blue state like some of these schools are, you're

790
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: not getting as much revenue spent on your football program

791
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: in the portal era as you are in the Red states.

792
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: And so to bring politics and football back together, and

793
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: I thought i'd throw that out.

794
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: Look at that weaving it together? All right, what gave

795
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: you got this weekend?

796
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: Tim, I've got Speaking of Dion, what you know, Dion?

797
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: You could fry an egg on his head right now,

798
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean you could. He's hoping mad. He is so big.

799
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: Well, they're not good. I mean I think a lot

800
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: of people say, are you calling his game this weekend?

801
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got We've got Arizona and Colorado in prime time.

802
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: And if the series that the World Series is over,

803
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: it'll be on Fox. Right now, it's scheduled to be

804
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: on FS one.

805
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the World Series will be over for sure.

806
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah wow after what? Yeah, we we just won show?

807
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: Hey o Tani or Freddie Freeman longball away from being

808
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: on Fox instead.

809
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Of f S one pretty much? Yeah? Go doctors? All right?

810
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: The great Tim Brando. Catch him calling Colorado Arizona. Catch

811
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: him calling games all season. He's great. He's an oracle

812
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: of LSU and beyond. Thanks a lot to.

813
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jay Man. Good to be with you, pal,