1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. For me, I'm a man, 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, I 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: want to be happy. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Ato steak? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Is that woo woom? And them and tie? All right? 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Week zero, officially in the book's favorites were two and 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: five against the spread, the big dogs eating in Week zero? Sir, 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: I watched Week zero on and off. I was away 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: for the Notre Dame game because I am insistent on 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: enjoying the last few drops of summer. I was just 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: eating pizza. It's no big deal. But I watched the entirety. 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: When I got back, I watched USC San Jose State 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: and I skimmed. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: No. 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: I watched a good chunk of Vandy Hawaii, which is 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: actually like kind of a crazy, wild, fun game. 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm good. I'm excited to talk about Week zero. 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: It was it provided us content tie, which is the 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: first time it's happened in quite some time. 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Indeed, look, the first quarters of these games to me 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: felt like they flew by. We've got new clock rules now, right, 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: clock doesn't stop as frequently, and as a result, I'm 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: watching these games, and I'm watching my bets that I'm 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: sort of like in a cold sweat because it feels 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: like the game is moving way quicker than I am 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: accustomed to. And in the case of the USC San 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: Jose State game, maybe it was sort of the undoing 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: for my jeweled Parley. I still love the name of 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: that bet. It didn't hit because USC did not cover 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: eight and half in that first quarter. But what do 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: you want to start here with week zero? We have 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot to discuss, more than, as you said, we 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: might otherwise have. 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose let's start with USC, just because it's 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: a natural transition. And I guess that's the danger in 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: wagering in quarter totals or half totals, is that maybe 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: the coin flip means a whole lot more to everybody 40 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: if you're betting like a first first quarter under a 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: first quarter total or something like that because of the 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: speed of the clock. So, USC San Jose State the 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: Spartans of San Jose in the Coliseum is the first 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: game as a reigning Heisman winner for Caleb Williams, and 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: we have high. 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Expectations for USC. 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: Uh. 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if this game was as close as 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: the final score indicates, which was what I what fifty 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: six twenty eight was the final twenty eight? 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Is the thirty point close to Yeah, we were pretty close. 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: We were both in like the fifty five to twenty 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: type range. What were your takeaways other than the speed 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: of the especially the first quarter clock when you watched 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: USC San Jose State. 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: What the big talking point is the headline of the 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: La Times, the column that Bill plashki USC wins opener, 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: but Lincoln Riley must fix the damn defense. That was 59 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: I think the broader takeaway, and we could talk about 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: that in a little bit. But the offense. Look, the offense. 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: We can't start a USC discussion without talking about the offense. 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Caleb william four touchdown passes looked fantastic. I'm a little 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: worried that he was a little too happy with the 64 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: happy feet. He did a lot of that, and he 65 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: did a lot he can get away with. Yeah, yeah, 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And I just felt like he was pushing the limits 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: there with San Jose State. And I don't know if 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: it was an offensive line thing or what it was, 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: but the happy feet, the happy feet were a little 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: too happy for my liking. But he was great. He 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: was Cale Williams, he was the reigning Heisman champion. Zachariah Branch, 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the top wide receiver in the twenty twenty three class, 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: hit a really nice catch and run for his first 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: touchdown midway through the third quarter, and then returned to 75 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: kickoff for another touchdown like five minutes later. As our 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: friend Spencer Hall pointed out on Twitter, he will probably 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: have a billion yards in this offense this season. There 78 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: is there is not much to worry about with the 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: USC offense. The question, and I guess the broader talking 80 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: point is the USC defense. San Jose State had three 81 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six yards of total offense. Everyone Bill 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Plashki right to point out that USC's defense needs to 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: be better. It is worth mentioning that one hundred and 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: fifty four of those yards came in garbage time in 85 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Right, So I don't want to jump 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: to the conclusion too soon that USC's defense is still 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: not fixed, that Alex Grinch may not be the answer 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator. I'm willing to pump the brakes a 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: little bit on that. But that being said, what I 90 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: saw in Week zero from USC needs to get better. 91 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: If they're going to play teams like Oregon, They're gonna 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: play teams like Utah. They're gonna play teams like Notre 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: Dame that won't suffice when we get Jumper into the season. 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: So they still do need to fix it. I agree 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: with the overall sentiment. I'm just not ready to push 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: the panic button quite yet. 97 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and at full health, Oregon and Utah's quarterbacks can 98 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: move as well, if not better than Chavon Cordero, who 99 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: has been around college football for a long time. And 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: you know, anytime you have an experienced, talented quarterback like 101 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Shavon Cordero, he is going to make plays. So at 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 2: the top, Caleb Williams is terrific. I'm I'm not worried 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: about his offensive line. And this falls into the broader 104 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: umbrella of yes, pay attention to a team's first game 105 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, but understand that it's 106 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: the first live action for everybody in their first game, 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: and so things can be corrected. Players can calm down, 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: players can go back and watch film of the live action, 109 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's why I didn't contain that, Like 110 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: third and seventeen run from Chavon Cordero that extended to 111 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: drive and killed Ty's parlayle. So yes, under that umbrella, 112 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: this applies to everybody in their first matchup, and so 113 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be overly critical of USC's defense today, 114 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: even though yes they did give up, especially some plays 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: downfield in the passing game. If you look at some 116 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: of the touchdowns and longer plays that San Jose State 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: was able to connect on, it wasn't four yards at 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: a time for the Spartans, So that, I guess is 119 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: somewhat of a concern that there were lanes, that there 120 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: were leaks, that there were guys beat on the outside, 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: that there were safeties who were late rotating. Look, the 122 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: headline to me with USC is Calebi is still awesome. 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that like bad snap 124 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: situation where he was able to recover the fumble and 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: still bomb it down the field for forty five or whatever. 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: I don't know how you can plant your back foot 127 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: and it's want to make that throw. I'm thinking, how 128 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: is he going to have enough juice on that ball 129 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: to get it down? He did it anyway, It's amazing. 130 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: The actual novel thing from this game to me is 131 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: what you pointed out, and what Spencer pointed out is 132 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: that Zachariah Branch has a ceiling of being him, right, 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: has a ceiling of being d' Anthony Thomas, who is 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: nearly a Trojan Percy Harvin Taevon Austin, Right, that type 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: of like, oh, he's jogging and everybody else is sprinting. 136 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem fair for everybody else. Boy, it sure 137 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: must be fun to root for a guy wearing your 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: color uniform who can do that. That's him right in 139 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: the punt return game and the kickoff return game, in 140 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: the receiving game, right, you just dump the ball off 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: to Zachariah Branch and he goes for a twenty five 142 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 2: easy yard touchdown. That's special. That's different USC fan, and 143 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: you cannot be excited enough right about the future and 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: potential of Zacharieber. 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: I watched the highlights here, makeet me Reggie Bush. 146 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, he had that play where he sort of 147 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: ran down the sideline. I don't know if it was 148 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: on the kickoff return. I think it was where he 149 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, went to the sideline and then just sort 150 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: of paused and cut across and remained untouched. And I 151 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: don't know if it was the same side where Reggie 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Bush did that against Presno State. But now once you 153 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: see that in a player, you're like, well, you know 154 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: what his ceiling is, and that is absolute game wrecker. 155 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: His big concern will be, you know what happens if 156 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley leaves before the USC goes to the Big 157 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: ten to take like the Cowboys job or something. But 158 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: that's neither here nor there. Nice win for USC. Don't 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: give up third and seventeen scrambles and killed that killed 160 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: the Parlayley. Great, you got to get that corrected before 161 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: the big boys in the Pac twelve. So that was 162 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: that was the takeaway for me that USC is still 163 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: going to have similar issues. But I am still a 164 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: believer that USC, with with a combination of execution and coaching, 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: can ascend to okay on defense. 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: I really do. 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Just pause, 205 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: check it out, maybe consider supporting the show. 206 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: We're very appreciative, Tie Dan, Notre Dame Notre Dame. 207 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: I got maybe the most X rated text from you 208 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: as you were watching this game. Now, I wouldn't say 209 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: x rated. 210 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean there were no there were no pictures. You 211 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: make it sound really x rated. It was just it 212 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: was explicit. 213 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: It was that you were language you were feeling fan 214 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: arousal watching Notre Dame's offense. 215 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was forty three. Notre Dame. Notre 216 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Dame had center stage, which Notre Dame bloves. I mean, 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: that's Notre Dame very much. Notre Dame marching through the 218 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: streets of Dublin with the band. Of course, Notre Dame 219 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: had center stage in the college football world for a 220 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: couple hours before some of the other games kicked off. 221 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: There started at two thirty Eastern and they were in Dublin, Ireland, 222 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: a Viva Stadium, scoring off against Navy. They won forty 223 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: two to three. The big takeaway for me is Sam 224 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Hartman and Notre Dame may be a perfect match. And 225 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: it was very interesting to see Sam Hartman in an 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: offense that didn't solely rely on his arm, which I 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: think we've seen over the last couple of years. In 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: his time at Wake Forest, He's been very good. He 229 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: broke a ton of passing records, and there's a reason 230 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: he was the number one transfer quarterback of this transfer 231 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: portal cycle. Likewise, it was great to see this Notre 232 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Dame offense with an actual threat of a legitimate passing game. Right. 233 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: It was just so clear with the way that they 234 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: schemed this thing that they had a lot of faith 235 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: in him to run the offense. It was very clear 236 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: he was comfortable doing it. I made the comment to 237 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: you that he just felt very calm, He seemed calm 238 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: back there, and that also was new. If you've been 239 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: watching Notre Dame for a while, we've had frantic quarterbacks 240 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: for the last ten years, Guys who take the snap 241 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: and they're sort of running around, hanging on for dear life, 242 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: trying to find an open guy. In some cases, I 243 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: can't reach him because they don't have the arm strength. 244 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: In some cases it's a one man route. That was 245 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: not the case with Sam Hartman. He didn't break a sweat. 246 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: It's been a while, it's been an eternity, maybe forever. 247 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I've never seen it in my lifetime as a 248 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan. Do you know do you know what 249 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you sound like right now? 250 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't care what I sell. If I can jump 251 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: in right now, I don't care. You sound like somebody 252 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: who just met a second wife. We were like, I'm 253 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: with the quarterback now, who's doing things I never thought 254 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: i'd be involved with. 255 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: Listen, I was getting texts, I was getting stuff from 256 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: mom age commenting on the beauty of Sam Hartman's main 257 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: like Mufassa in college football form, he just got out 258 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: of a toxic relationship. That's Harris since Bob Diaco I 259 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think of going out and a 260 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: limb saying that this quarterback's blowing my mind. This is 261 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: all to say the same. Hartman looked very good. He 262 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: would be very very good as quarterback for Notre Dame. 263 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I get that it was just Navy, but I should 264 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: also mention that there was a whole lot of just 265 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: purpose out there with this offense. They didn't go out there, 266 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: they weren't confused. I felt like they knew exactly what 267 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: they wanted to do with it, which is why I 268 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: was so encouraged, even against an overmatched opponent, to go 269 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: out there, to feel like you have purpose, to seem 270 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: like you're all on the same page. That's a big deal, 271 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: especially with a new quarterback. A lot of inside zones, 272 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the duo runs Notre Dame has been 273 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: doing now for the last two seasons. Audrick Estimay an 274 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: absolute house as a running back. Notre Dame's very deep 275 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: at running back, which I like. We did get to 276 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: see some wide receivers. My guy Jaden Greathhouse, true freshman 277 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: out of Texas, had two touchdowns in his first game. 278 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: The offense was very very encouraging. The defense did an 279 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: awesome job. It took them like two drives to kind 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: of get Navy figured out, but after that they clamp 281 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: down in a really big way. So I am over 282 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the moon. I'm over. In a week where we talked 283 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: about very limited slight, I get it. But in a 284 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: week where we're talking about favorites being two and five 285 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: against the spread, Notre Dame absolutely blew the doors off Navy, 286 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: and I could not be any more excited about what's 287 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: to come. I'm are you protecting yourself at all? Protecting myself? 288 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, like you're just all in right, the fan arousal 289 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: like this is as I mentioned, like, but what I'm 290 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: saying is like maybe it might be really bad, and 291 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: so you have to put yourself out there, right, you 292 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: have to dance like nobody's watching. 293 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: This is the joy of college football. This is the 294 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: college football Because. 295 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: If Notre Dame is as excellent as you hope and 296 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: are envisioning them to be this year, Yeah, that's what 297 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: they should have done against a very bad. 298 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: That's it, right, isn't that that's what they should have 299 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: been zero? Isn't that the thing for all of these 300 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: top teams? Yes? This taking care of business is underrated. 301 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: Taking care of businesses underrated. The art of the blowout 302 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: me is very underrated. Like, just beat the crap out 303 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: of a team you're supposed to beat and move on 304 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: to the next week. They should do it again this week. 305 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: Were there any surprises to you as a Notre Dame 306 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: human that like, oh, I wasn't expecting this person to 307 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: step up, or oh, I wasn't expecting the defense to 308 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: be doing this kind of thing. I know it's Navy, 309 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: so you can't really appraise a defense in the way 310 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: that you can against more conventional offenses. But was there 311 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: anything that you're like, Oh, that's that's an interesting thing 312 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: that I could see being more interesting as the season 313 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: progresses for Notre Dame. 314 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there were there were a lot of 315 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: things that I think fall into that category. The one 316 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: thing that really jumped out to me after watching the 317 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: last couple of years of Notre Dame football not a 318 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: whole lot of tight end action in this game. Right. 319 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: They would throw it at receivers, which felt different. It 320 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: really felt different to throw it to a wide man 321 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: or a slotman and not have to zero in on 322 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: a guy like a Michael Maher. This was not a 323 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: game dictated by the tight end. This was a game 324 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: dictated first and foremost by Audric estimate I think, to 325 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: set the pace, and then secondly, in a very big 326 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: way by Sam Hartman, who only missed like four passes, 327 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: had four touchdowns. I mean, he was he was legit. 328 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: So it's just interesting to me, to me to see 329 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: some of these new receivers and see how they step up. 330 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Jaden great House I mentioned him at the top, but 331 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: guys like Dean Coles, even Chris Tyree who's now playing 332 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: in the SOD a little bit, to see how they 333 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: use him. It'd be very interesting. I don't want to 334 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: jone on too much about Notre Dame, but Notre Dame 335 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: looked really, really solid in week zero. 336 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and one hundred and twenty fifth Navy last year 337 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: in terms of passing explosive passes allowed, so their pass 338 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: defense had a lot to be desired. So, you know, 339 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: not grain of salt, but important context that Navy has 340 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: a ways to go in terms of defending the pass. 341 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: The other thing that stot to me out Notre Dame, 342 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: I'll move on, is I think it was a Jaden 343 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: great House touchdown catch. Sam Hartman threw it to a place. Yeah, 344 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: that he knew Jaden great House would be streaking up 345 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: the seam or the sideline. I forget exactly where on 346 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: the field it was. And that is the mark of 347 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: a fourteenth year quarterback. 348 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: And you know what, that's something our friend Pete Samson 349 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: from the Athletic has reported all throughout spring camp, all 350 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: throughout the build up to this season, anticipation that that's 351 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: a key difference between where Notre Dame has been at 352 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: quarterback and where they will be this year. With Hartman, 353 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: he just yea, he knows how to throw guys open 354 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and that makes receivers better. He missed a few, you know. 355 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean he had Tobias Merriweather open and he didn't 356 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: quite put it up juice on the ball in the 357 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. And that stuff will get 358 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: sorted out, I think in due course. But by and large, 359 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: knowing where people are in the field, that sense of 360 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: place has really been lacking from Notre Dame and it 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: was great to see it. So I'm excited. I can't 362 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: help it. 363 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: I can change your expectation for you know, Clemson us 364 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: see anything like that or look, because you kind of 365 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: went into the season expecting Sam Hartman to be a revelation. 366 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: So I think it's probably right. It's just different to 367 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, it's different to see it to feel 368 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: it the way that I did. I mean, it gave 369 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: me the vapors. Let's be honest, I. 370 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: Tell you something. 371 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of good quarterback play, I liked both aj Swan 372 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: and Branden Schager. 373 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to. Okay, so let's go to the Vandy game. 374 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: You mentioned that it was kind of fun. We had 375 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: a bit of a slow motion back door cover because 376 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: Vandy was up twenty one at the start of the 377 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. They allowed fourteen unanswered only to win by seven. 378 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: So a bit of a clunker in that sense, especially 379 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: if you had Vandy minus sixteen and a half like 380 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: some of us. By the way, I went oh for 381 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: four and all my tie verse the world picks again, 382 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: continuing the trend, the horrible trend from last season. But 383 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: we will get that straightened away in due time. This 384 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: game was delayed for an hour and forty minutes due 385 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: to lightning. Yeah, I think the big story for me 386 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: obviously Vandy Wan. This was a must win for Vandy. 387 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: I think we're both pretty keen on Vandy over three 388 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: and a half. Can't make that bet anymore. But this 389 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: is a must win for them in that sense, you 390 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: have them in a bowl game, so doubly a must win. 391 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: I know that was tough. It was a tough watch 392 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: for my bowel prediction. 393 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Continue. The big story for me, though, is how much 394 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: better Hawaii looked. Yes, they lost this game by fifty 395 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: three at home last season, and if you watch any 396 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: of the highlights, even if you just look damn box score, 397 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: it was apparent that Timmy Chang has done some work 398 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: with this team, and so they were not a disaster 399 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: like they were a year ago. This seemed like a 400 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: team that again I use that word again purpose. It 401 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: seemed as if they were much more together than they 402 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: were a year ago. And I think you're right to 403 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: point out the quarterback thing. They did look pretty good. 404 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: So, Okay, Brandon Schagar, it's not Schregar, it's Schregar looked strong. 405 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: I liked, Look, he's that old fashioned Hawaii gunslinger type quarterback. 406 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: Right. 407 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: I thought aj Swan looked strong. I think Vandy had 408 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: like one hundred yard kickoff return. So the Vandy offense 409 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: only scored twenty eight against this Hawaii team, which is 410 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: another feather in Hawaii's cap. If this game's played ten times, 411 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: I think they probably split it five out of five 412 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: out of our five and five just because of the 413 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 2: It was I think an end zone interception that Braden 414 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: Schager threw. So Hawaii was fighting. I think they outgained 415 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: Vandy by like one hundred yards. It was worrisome as 416 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: somebody who picked Vandy to make a bowl game. But 417 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: I'm sticking with it, Ty, I'm not abandoning the doors. 418 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: I also enjoyed the construction in one of the end zones. 419 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: Did you see some of the highlights They were showing 420 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: the temporary scoreboard floating in the breeze as it was 421 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: held up by a crane. Yes, does not seem safe. 422 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: I know our friend Roger Sherman is doing the Grand 423 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: road trip, this road road Roge, go and check him out. 424 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Ro O d g Er on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, send 425 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: him some love. He's going to be traveling the great 426 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: country watching all sorts of great college football. He was 427 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: tweeting and posting pictures of the active construction zone that 428 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: is the Vanderbilt Stadium right now by the way. 429 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: Dream situation to bring a three year old. If you're 430 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: going to bring a three year old to a football 431 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: game in Nashville, man, I suggest not traveling anywhere else 432 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: and just showing your toddler, your little kid, a bunch 433 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: of tractors while you watch football. Even if Fandy's getting 434 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: blown out. That's a nice little one too. 435 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 436 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't think I have any other takeaways other than 437 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: Fandy's defense probably has a ways to go. And I 438 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: think Hawaii is going to be extraordinarily fun this year 439 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 2: because they're just gonna wing it around. And Braden Schager, 440 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: I don't think he has a pop gun arm like 441 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: your Bryant monies. I'm ready for fun Hawaii football. 442 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: It's been a minute. It has been a minute. It 443 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: has been a minute. Gonna get to some other games. 444 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: If you've made it this far, hit subscribe or follow 445 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: on your podcasting app of choice, leave us a five 446 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: star rating or a review. Let us know in that 447 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: review if you want to what you thought of Week zero. 448 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing a live stream on Wednesday at 449 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: noon out on our YouTube channel, which you can watch 450 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: and follow along with. We're also going to be going 451 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: live on Saturday night at midnight after. 452 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: After thank you Dan Saturday Night Tide, Saturday night time Baby. 453 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: After most of the games, let's say most of the games, 454 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I think UCLA will still be in the process of 455 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming beating Coastal Carolina and there's an Oregon State 456 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: game late on Saturday night. We've got games on Sunday. 457 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: We've also got games on Monday. So I think normally 458 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: we'll be able to cover most of, if not all, 459 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: of the games in a given week. But it is 460 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: Week one. It's a little bit different. For good reason. Absolutely. 461 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: San Diego State twenty Ohio thirteen. The big story in 462 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: this one was the brokening, as I called it. The 463 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: marketing went a little bit differently than expected because Curtis 464 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Rourke got knocked out of this one at the end 465 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: of the first quarter. It's clear that when he's in there, 466 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: he's got real NFL potential. I mean, the ball just 467 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: comes out of his hand effortlessly, and he's a big kid. 468 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: He definitely has the build. When he is running that offense, 469 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: it is clearly at a different level than it ended 470 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: up being here with CJ. Harris, the backup who came 471 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: in and went like eighteen of forty one or something, 472 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: of that nature three thousand three picks for him. Curtis 473 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: Rourke kind of got like, I don't know, bent in half. 474 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: It was a very very weird way that he took 475 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: a hit from a defender. He apparently wanted to go 476 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: back in the game. It seems like he's fine. They 477 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: were going to do some precautionary x rays. It sounds 478 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: like he was pissed at the coaching staff they wouldn't 479 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: put him back yet. Yeah. I saw that he is 480 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: recovering from an ACL injury. We talked about it in 481 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: the last episode. He came back very very quickly from 482 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: that injury. So they were not going to take any chances, 483 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: especially with a non conference game such as this, so 484 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: he got knocked out early. It was CJ. Harris the 485 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: rest of the way. I'm not crazy about San Diego 486 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: State's offense. They only scored twenty points, so perhaps that 487 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: further underscore is the point. The highlight of this one 488 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 1: for me really was I want to say. In the 489 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: first quarter, Jalen Maiden, being chased by defenders, tries to 490 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: roll a little bit to his left. He's a southpaw 491 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: and tries to throw it away, ends up throwing it 492 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: right in the face of a referee. He saw that. 493 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: Do you see that play? It's a bad day at 494 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: the office. Yep. But other than that, it was mostly 495 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: a defensive slug fest. Even still without Rourke, Ohio had 496 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: opportunities to come back and make this a game, but 497 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. 498 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I forget if I call it 499 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: a win, loss for a loss, win, Like it's better 500 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: to win than lose. This is San Diego State winning 501 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: a great clunker to open the season. Because if you 502 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: turn another team over three times and only give up 503 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: one yourself, and you're facing a backup quarterback who's not 504 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: terribly effective, and you hang on to win at home, 505 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: not ideal. Doesn't sort of portend great things for the Aztecs. 506 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: But again, it's their first game of the season. A 507 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: lot to correct. 508 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: We'll see Jacksonville State Welcome to FBS. Jacksonville State wins 509 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen over UTEP. UTEP actually outgained Jacksonville State 510 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: the game Cocks of Jacksonville State by about one hundred yards. 511 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: They had nine more minutes of possession, but they turned 512 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: it over three times. They were just three of twelve 513 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: on third downs and that'll get you, especially especially in 514 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: a close game. It's actually sort of similar to what 515 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: we saw happen in the UMass game. So U Mass 516 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: knocked off New Mexico State forty one to thirty. It 517 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: was a big game for Tyson Puma Chan remember him. 518 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I think it's what Clemson to Georgia 519 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Tech to U MASS. 520 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So a two time transfer. It's 521 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: another situation where we have one of these guys finally 522 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: getting the reins a starting quarterback. You look pretty good. 523 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: It's apparent they're going to let him run at UMSS. 524 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: U Mass is outgained by one hundred yards, but again 525 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: forced the three turnovers, and that is I think ultimately 526 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: what felled New Mexico State. The play of the day 527 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: in this one not the Jalen Maiden play from San 528 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Diego State, but this was the one where Diego Pavia, 529 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback for New Mexico State, evading a pass rush, 530 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: rolls a little bit to his right. He gets the 531 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: very vicious face mask that spins his helmet around one 532 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty degrees while the play is still live, 533 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: and so he is out there literally like a chicken 534 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: with his head cut off, sort of like doesn't know 535 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: what to do and had the wherewithal to just chuck 536 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: the ball beyond the end zone and was able to 537 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: get out of that play without getting drilled. But one 538 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: of those deals it actually it could have been very, 539 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: very scary because he just could not see as a 540 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: helmet spun around in his face. Big deal. When UMass 541 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: wins a football game. 542 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: They were I think the worst team in FBS football 543 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: last year to open the season up with a win. 544 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: And I always have a soft spot for U Mass 545 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: because I just remember as like a twelve year old 546 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: loving U Mass basket. Marcus Camby, what do you know 547 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: about Carmelo Travioso? That his name Treviso Edgar Padilla? Did 548 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: I just pull on Edgar Padilla? I? Yeah, so look 549 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: and it's Don Brown. He's been every he's been around forever. 550 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: We like that. 551 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: I'm happy to see a team that's been down for 552 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: so long open the season up in a positive way. 553 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: Our friends over at the Sickos Committee made a graphic 554 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: that they posted titled the U Mass Chowder Bowl. Okay, 555 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: and so they've got a bowl of chowder and then 556 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: in the bowl of chowder. They've got a new Mexico 557 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: state logo and they've got it tagged with does you 558 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: Mass have a Bowl game cooking this season? They've already 559 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: got one in the pot. If they're going to do 560 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: this thing every week where they're adding a logo, I 561 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: love this. I love this idea. I don't know how 562 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: many logos they're going to have a chance to add, 563 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: because U mass is over under is like three, but 564 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: I like the concept. Kudos to Sicos committee. 565 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: The number one thirty one sp plus team from last season, 566 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 2: the worst offense in America this year in terms of 567 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: points per drive, but yeah, they were okay on defense, 568 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: only one hundredth in points per drive last year. So 569 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: get that chowder going. You like chowder, ty, I enjoy chowder? 570 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Sure, why not? Why not get it going in the 571 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: crock pot. We'll see. Yeah, final game here to discuss, 572 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: unless you've got any burning utep or Jacksonville. No, no, no, no. 573 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: We got Louisianattack FIU. Yeah. FI was up seventeen three 574 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the second quarter and they choked 575 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: it away. That's because Dan Guess is back hammering Hank Bach. 576 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: My guess who's Bach, Hank Bachmeyer, you had that bulldog 577 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: in him, leading the comeback thirty three of forty four 578 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty three yards, passing a long touchdown 579 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: to Smoke Harris, who might have the best name in 580 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: college football this year. Yeah, Smoke Harris had eleven receptions 581 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty five yards. Might be a 582 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: little early for doodle words here, but twenty two to 583 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: seventeen is your final as louisianattack comes from behind when 584 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: it nearly at the gun to get on the board. 585 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Avenge the loss from a year ago when FIU won 586 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: bit of a shootout. Mm hmm. 587 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: No, great win to start the season for Louisiana Tacks. 588 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Sonny Comby Hank Bachmeyer, brother of Bear, Lion, Tiger, Orca 589 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: Kangaroo whatever his brother's names are. Kangaroo Bachmeyer. Are you 590 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: not familiar with his work? 591 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 592 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: Really nice solid win, comeback win. What's wrong? What's wrong? 593 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: Ty? 594 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: What did I say that? So weird? Half the Animal Kingdom? Yeah? 595 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, fi did a really nice job pushing around Louisiana 596 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: Tack They ran all over them, but it's you know, 597 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: you couldn't move. 598 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: The ball at all through the air. 599 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't like some comically low number for Grayson James, 600 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: the FIU quarterback. 601 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not here to pick on anybody. It was a 602 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: down day with four yards passing here, five completions. Four 603 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: yards passing. That is an average zero point eight yards 604 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: per completion. 605 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough way to win a game. So yeah, 606 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Good for Louisiana Tech. Wins are better 607 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: than losses. 608 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: When's are better and losses. That does it. Four week 609 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: zero again only seven games of note, some of these 610 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: teams will be in action again this week and we'll 611 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: get to that on the week one preview again. Going out, 612 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: it's YouTube dot com the at symbol Solid Verbal. That's 613 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: where you can find the YouTube channel. We will be 614 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: going live with our picks every Wednesday at noon Eastern. 615 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: Eleven Central ten Mountain nine Pacific six for our good 616 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: friends on the islands in Hawaii. Yeah, that's right, and 617 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: then go forward if you're in Europe Rasia. I don't 618 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: have the math to do that at the same time, 619 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: but yes, twelve Eastern, our picks, our weekly picks show 620 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: live YouTube dot com, slash at Solid Verbal, subscribe, hit 621 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: the bell. 622 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: And then and then of course, Saturday Night, as we 623 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: said at the top, will be doing the recap. Okay, 624 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 625 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: I won't to play the whole don't over save that, 626 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: ye save, I understand. Saturday Night Tie. 627 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you follow along on social media will be 628 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: posting all of those links out there as well, whether 629 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: you're on Twitter or x. We did do a little 630 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: bit of zeeding this Saturday. I did. Yeah, you weren't around, 631 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: you were doing the Pizzafest thing, but in public you 632 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: were zeting. I was zeting. Yeah, okay. To close out 633 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: this episode, I did want to give a shout out 634 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: to the Verballer community. Yes again, verballers dot com is 635 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: where you can go and check that out. I didn't 636 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: mention the great community that we have and how we're 637 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: going to be doing watch alongs and things of that 638 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: ilk this coming season. Sally, our good friend out on Discord, 639 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: has this odd habit of putting together a composite poll 640 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: every year. What I've got in front of me is 641 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: the composite Top thirty basically took all of the polls 642 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: from everyone over at the I don't know, the athletic 643 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: to athlon to CBS AP Top twenty five you name it. 644 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Here's what we got. I want you to tell me 645 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: as I read through this top twenty five very quickly. Okay, 646 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: who's too hi? 647 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: Harpick, We'll go through a top ten, top twelve, top fifteen, 648 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: whatever you want, ty. 649 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Here's one through ten, all right, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, 650 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: Penn State at five, LSU at six, Tennessee at seven, 651 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Clemson at eight, Texas at nine, USC at ten. Okay, 652 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: who's too high? Who's too low? 653 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: I'd move USC maybe up a little bit. I'd certainly 654 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: move USC ahead of Texas and Tennessee in this moment, 655 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't you. 656 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: I think Tennessee at seven's a little high. 657 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: I think Tennessee at seven's a little bit high. I 658 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: don't again, I said that Penn State would likely be 659 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: my team that has never made the playoff, that I 660 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: like them to make the playoff if everybody kind of 661 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: hits approximately their expected ceiling. Penn State is a very 662 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: good team or a very good option for me to 663 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: be that first time playoff team. So I don't hate 664 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: them that high. But it does, you know, and you 665 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: see it, You're like, oh wow, that's that hits a 666 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: little different for me. Five for Penn State, they could 667 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: get to a top five caliber team, It's very possive, 668 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,479 Speaker 2: but I would be inclined to put them below LSU. 669 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: I'd be inclined to put them below Texas. I'd be 670 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: inclined to put them below Clemson, certainly below USC At 671 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: this point, I think Penn State will be very, very good. 672 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: But was such a big unknown at quarterback, right, And 673 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: I'm in on true Allard, don't get me wrong, but 674 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: we got to see something out there. Maybe after week 675 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: one I'll feel differently. Okay, if they go out there 676 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: and destroy West Virginia, if he throws for two hundred 677 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: and eighty yards, it doesn't community bonehead mistakes, maybe I'll 678 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: feel differently. But to start five is really high. That's 679 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: really high, man. 680 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: It's striking that three of or excuse me, four of 681 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: the top five in this poll, and in a lot 682 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: of poles and combinations thereof have new quarterbacks, right Georgia, 683 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Alabama, Penn State, And so while it kind 684 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: of makes sense to look at the top that, it 685 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: feels like there's also potential for a lot of volatility 686 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: Moven new quarterback play. And then of course Tennessee new quarterback, 687 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: Clemson new full time starting quarterback, and then of course 688 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: Texas as a returner, and USC certainly has a returner. 689 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: And you get outside of the top ten tie like, 690 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: I think i'd have Florida State in the top ten 691 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: and they're outside there. 692 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: That well, that was gonna be my next question. So 693 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: as we go outside the top ten, we've got Utah 694 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: at eleven, Florida State at twelve, Oregon Notre Dame in 695 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Washington to round out the top fifteen. Of those teams, 696 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: I think we agree that Florida State's probably a top 697 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: ten team. Yeah, they feel too low. Are there any 698 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: others in that grouping that you'd be inclined to put 699 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: in your top ten? 700 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, other than Florida State, I dip Utah down. I'm 701 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: high on Oregon at the moment. And then I read 702 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: a new piece. I think it was Brian Hamilton at 703 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: The Athletic wrote a feature about bo Nix and he 704 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: just seems like he's twenty eight, And you're like even 705 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: higher on Oregon than I was before. But offense is 706 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 2: not going to be the issue for the Ducks. But 707 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: I'd have them maybe a little bit higher at thirteen. 708 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 2: I think probably in like the nine or ten area 709 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: right now. I'd have Washington a little bit higher in 710 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: the twelve or thirteen area, and yeah, I dip Texas 711 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: and i'd dip Utah, maybe dip Tennessee, though I am 712 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 2: pretty high on Tennessee just because I think the Joe 713 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: Milton in that system is sort of a match made 714 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: in heaven. And I anticipate hopefully the back end of 715 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: that defense being a little bit more consistent now that 716 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: there should be healthier this season. But that's sort of 717 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: wait and see for me at the moment. But with 718 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: how they started out last year, I think you give 719 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: them at least a chunky benefit of the doubt as 720 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: being top ten, top twelve. 721 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: What we saw from Notre Dame was better than the 722 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: fourteenth best team in the country. What we saw from 723 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: maybe again I realized was Navy. But the way that 724 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: they played in that game, the way that the defense played, especially, 725 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: that was better than top fourteen. They should be. They 726 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: should be top ten with that type of performance. 727 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but do you see any of these teams ahead 728 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: of Notre Dame this Oregon, Florida State, Utah, USC Texas, Clemson, Tennessee, LSU, 729 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: Penn State, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia. Do you see 730 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: any of them not doing that against Navy? Like, do 731 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: you look at any of those teams and saying, I 732 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: don't know, they might have really struggled to get going 733 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 2: across the ocean at Oviva Stadium. That's the issue to me, Like, 734 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 2: that's fair. I think a lot of these teams I 735 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: don't have and I'm still riding high out. No, I 736 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: understand taking care of like Notre Dame did it right. 737 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: I'm using a hypothetical argument. So Notre Dame certainly has 738 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: the potential, especially if Navy's okay this year, that'll be 739 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: a nicer win than we know at the moment. But yeah, 740 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: I think what Notre Dame showed and with what Sam 741 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: Hartman has a track record of showing as a high 742 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: level college football quarterback, Yeah, Notre Dame absolutely has the 743 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 2: top ten ceiling. He could throw five picks against Clemson. 744 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: That's not beyond the realm of possibilities. What I like 745 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: about the offense is that they go and need him 746 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 2: to go out there and throw it that much. I 747 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: think they've got enough of complimentary ground game that this 748 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: will be very very balanced, but alas he's got that 749 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: in and we've seen it. Here are the remaining ten 750 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 2: teams in this composite poll, again put together out in 751 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: arverballers dot com community by Sally, who's very prominent on discord. 752 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: We appreciate is hard work. Here, TCU at sixteen, Kansas 753 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: State at seventeen, Old miss eighteen, Oklahoma way too low 754 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: at nineteen. I'd have him hire way too low at nineteen, 755 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: Oregon State at twenty. Then we close it out with Wisconsin, Iowa, 756 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: Texas A and M way too low at twenty three, 757 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: Mississippi State and Kentucky. Mississippi State and Kentucky the two 758 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: that jump out to me for being too low. Definitely 759 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma at nineteen. Oklahoma's going to be really good. I 760 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: get why they're nineteen. Oklahoma is going to be really 761 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: really good again this season. And I shouldn't say again 762 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: because I realized last season wasn't quite living up to expectations, 763 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: so don't hold me to that, but I think Oklahoma 764 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: will again be very much in the conversation deep into 765 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: this season. So they're way too low at nineteen, and 766 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: Texas Sayama twenty three is too low. It's too low. 767 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: They might not crack the top ten, but as top 768 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: fifteen team late in the season, provided Connor Wegman is 769 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: the guy, provided that they keep Jimbo away from the offense, 770 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: they should be higher than twenty three. 771 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Haggis are gonna HAGGI you know that. 772 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: I think that's just as long as as long as 773 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: Jimbo's there. I just kind of know what you're gonna get. 774 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 2: I know he was outside of the playoff, just a 775 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: hair outside of the playoff in twenty twenty, but I 776 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think enough has changed. So yeah, 777 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: I would move Oklahoma up, I would move TCU down. 778 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 2: I would move I think Oregon State's right right there. 779 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: I think Wisconsin I would have a little bit higher 780 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: in the mid teens at the moment with how high 781 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: I I think I am. Iowa is interesting. I don't 782 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: know what to think about Iowa, Mississippi State. I'd moved down, 783 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: Kentucky had moved up. And of the teams just outside UCLA, Kasana, 784 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: North Carolina, Texas Tech, Minnesota, I think of those five, 785 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: Texas Tech and UCLA are the ones that I could 786 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 2: see being top twenty. 787 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: Ish, I was gonna move Carolina up. I was gonna 788 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: North Carolina up. Yeah, I'm man. The closer we get 789 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: to Week one, and the more I've been digging on 790 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: North Carolina, I hate their defense. I know, I truly 791 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: hate their defense, but I really love Drake May, of course, 792 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,959 Speaker 1: and their offense will again be electric, and it will 793 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: be if you are a Carolina fan. One of those 794 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: frustrating seasons where Drake May is trying to overcompensate for 795 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: the defense. But no Phil Longo. He's at no Phil 796 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: long Go. But Drake May is just so damn good. Man. 797 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: I know he's so damn good, and I gotta believe 798 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: that they are good enough to be a top twenty 799 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: caliber team on offense alone. Man, you got Mac Brown 800 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: nibbling on your ear lobe. I don't know. I don't know. 801 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: Ty the Texas love anything remotely associated with Texas now 802 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: in North Carolina. 803 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in on UCLA and Texas Tech too. My 804 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: problem is I just about everybody. Yeah, So I don't 805 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: dislike those picks. I just think that Carolina here is 806 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: very quiet at twenty eight. Okay. Favored this week against 807 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina. South Carolina is not without its own issues, 808 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: but that neutral syche game I think will tell us 809 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: a lot about both these teams. I agree. 810 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: And so with that said, we have a Week one 811 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: preview coming Wednesday noon Eastern Time, live on YouTube. Of course, 812 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: it'll be on the podcast feed shortly thereafter. The games 813 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: in this three day weekend are pretty extensive, are they 814 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: not tied that we're going to be talking about? 815 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: They're pretty extensive. I've already started thinking up what name 816 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: I am going with for Week one, and I kind 817 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: of feel like, because we've had seven months to prepare 818 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: for the week ahead, that you and I should probably 819 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: circle the wagons beforehand and present the united front when 820 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: we start the podcast, when we start the stream on Wednesday, 821 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we should come to an agreement beforehand 822 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: about what we are naming the week and then go 823 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: from there. 824 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: I was thinking Super Saturday, because it should be super 825 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: Is that good? 826 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: No, it's not good. You gotta do you sound like 827 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: ESPN was Super Saturday. 828 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: I know we've got the premiere of Coach Prime Colorado 829 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: at TCU. We have not Jim Harbaugh on Peacock for 830 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 2: East Carolina Michigan Fresno State, Purdue, Ohio State, Indiana, Boise State, Washington. 831 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: That's saucy tie. I like that one. 832 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. West Virginia, Penn State. You think Penn State, 833 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 2: you think the world of Penn State. Of course, going 834 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: into this year and especially this game. You mentioned North Carolina, 835 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 2: South Carolina, Texas Tech, Wyoming. I don't know that could 836 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 2: have some secret sauce Oregon, Portland State, any thoughts, No, 837 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: not really. The only big one really to me, big, big, 838 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: big one is going to be LSU Florida State. Though 839 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: things do kick off kind of in spicy fashion Thursday 840 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: night with Utah, Nebraska, Minnesota. 841 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. It is going to be a load, 842 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: pretty excited, time loaded weekend of games. It spans five days, 843 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: starts Thursday night, runs all the way through Labor Day. Yes, 844 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: our plan again is the live stream on Wednesday to 845 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: get you prepped, the live stream on Saturday night to 846 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: get you caught up, and then again there will be 847 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: a public episode or part of a public episode that's 848 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: available on Monday to further catch you up, further give 849 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: you our thoughts on the weekend that was, and get 850 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: you primed and ready for week two at that point, 851 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: So make sure you are following along on YouTube, make 852 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: sure you're hitting follow or subscribe on the podcast as well, 853 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: follow along on social media, and if you really want 854 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: to be a verballer and help support what Dan and 855 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: I do, going out to verballers dot com for updated 856 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Patreon tiers. Be part of that community, get access to 857 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: the bonus perks. There will be a bonus episode on 858 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: Thursday as well that is not available on the public 859 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: fel that you can get access to if you join 860 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: at verbowlers dot com. So we are really like empty 861 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: in the clip here. Man, we're getting ready for the season. 862 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: My voice is just about healed up and I'm ready. 863 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm ready for you and I to do our thing. 864 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: Did you see Foxes doing a twenty four straight hour 865 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: preview of Colorado TCU? 866 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: Is that true? No? Not, I did see they were 867 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: promoting it though they're really Joel Lent, Joe Klat's gonna 868 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: wear a diaper on set and he's just gonna freak 869 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: out about Dion Sanders for twenty four straight hours. Oh man, 870 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 871 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: for my self, Tie Hilton Brand, thanks so much for 872 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: downloading for listening, for playing along at home. We'll see 873 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: y'all noon Eastern Time, Wednesday, Today Solid peace,