1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Just two more days until the twenty twenty five NFL 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Draft kicks off, and Green Bay is ready. We are 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: live high above lambeau Field talking all the latest reports, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: rumors and rumblings. But also we'll talk about cam Ward 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: with the hey guy who knows him really well. Miami 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: coach Mario Christobal joins the show to tell us what 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: makes the presumptive number one overall pick special and why 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: another QB in this draft is a total stud. Steelers 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: still waiting for their quarterback answer. They don't have an 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: answer from Aaron Rodgers as they make plans for the 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: number twenty one overall pick. Hear what Mike Tomlins said 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: today about Rogers and the possibility of Shador Sanders donning 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: black and yellow. It's almost here. Welcome inside with the 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: insiders alongside Mike Garafalo in New Jersey, Judy Batista in 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: New York. That's Ian Rappaport. I'm Tom Pillicero here high 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: above lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: The sun was shining today. 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: Ian beautiful day out here with very conly hope. It's 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: still a little on the chili side, but we're inside 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: with the insiders. Will be outside. Starting on Thursday, Let's 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: start out with the big news of the day from Ian, 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: at least according to him. No, the Titans are not 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: going to trade out of the number one overall draft pick. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: They are going to stand pat and the belief, as 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: it has been for weeks in league circles, is that 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Miami quarterback cam Ward is going to be that selection. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: Here's what GM Mike Borganzi had to say today about 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: what exactly happens at number one. 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: We've come to a consensus the entire organization is to 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: stay at that pick, and I guess you'll find out 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: Thursday night who we pick. 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: Did you have a lot of offers or a lot 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: of interests from other teams? 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: There was? 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: There was interest. 36 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: I thought that was, you know, doing a due diligence 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: and going through the process to listen to those offers, 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: and they were I don't want to go into Pacific. 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: So what the offer was what the teams were, but 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: they were offers. 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Ian, this is not the draft class of a year 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: ago for the quarterback position, when six players went in 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: the top twelve. There is one guy, though, in talking 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: to coaching and scouts around league, who profiles like a starter. 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: It seems pretty obvious. The Titans came to the conclusion 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: they simply couldn't afford to pass them up. 48 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. 49 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans did, in fact have options teams like 50 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: the Giants, who no doubt have been in contact with 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans for the last several weeks, nor Land Saints, 52 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 5: another team many thought potentially could end up moving up 53 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: to one. In the end, the Tennessee Titans, with new 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 5: general manager and Mike Burgonzi and several new staff members, 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 5: took a little extra time to make sure they were 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 5: all in the same page. 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: At all the homework they possibly could. 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: They worked out the quarterbacks, they visited him hosted with them, 59 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: came to the conclusion that so many around the league 60 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: have that cam Ward is the consensus top quarterback. The 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 5: belief is that he is a franchise guy. Obviously he 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: hasn't played it down yet. 63 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: We will see. 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 5: But if you're the Tennessee Titans and the option is 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: just take the franchise quarterback, do you so badly need. 66 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: It is an obvious one. It is a simple one. 67 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: It is a very very important one. And now that 68 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: decision has been made by the Titan. 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: It's really the number one quarterback in this draft. Then 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: you draw a line. So the real drama that's going 71 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: to play out on Thursday night is who is QB 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: two in this draft. We've obviously talked a ton about 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders from Colorado for a variety of different reasons. 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: One of the best players in the country in terms 75 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: of the production, the awards over the past couple of years, 76 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: the second team All American. He has taken several visits, 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: including one to the Pittsburgh Steelers, whose brass spoke today 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Judy about what potentially might playout for them at QB. 79 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike Tomlin had some very kind words about Shador Sanders. 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 6: He talked about as competitive nature and his toughness is 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 6: in tangibles, you know. Mike Tomlin said, obviously he's known 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 6: Dion Sanders for years, but he'd never met Shador Sanders 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: before they met only recently. He said they didn't really 84 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 6: talk about Dion at that meeting, they were just talking 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 6: about ball. Now to the matter of the Pittsburgh Steelers, 86 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin said that Aaron Rodgers indecision on whether he 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 6: will join the Pittsburgh Steelers will not affect the Steelers 88 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 6: draft strategy. But then when Mike Tomlin was asked, well, 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 6: what you acquire during the draft, could that affect your 90 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 6: pursuit of Aaron Rodgers, he said, well, oftentimes what you 91 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: get in the draft, what talent you acquire in the draft, 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 6: affects the talent acquisition phase after the draft. So that's 93 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 6: certainly left the door open to the possibility that if 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 6: they get a quarterback in this draft, perhaps they cool 95 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 6: on Aaron Rodgers. Omar Khan, the general manager, repeated something 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 6: he had said before, which is they will take four 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 6: quarterbacks to Latrobe for training camp this summer. They've got 98 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 6: two on the roster. Now where they get the other 99 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 6: two remains to be seen. Omar Khan also made the 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 6: point that it is much more likely that they move 101 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 6: back in the draft then move up in the draft. 102 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: That sort of quells the question that came out after 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers didn't give an answer last week to the 104 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 6: pittsbe Brooke Steelers about would they then be more aggressive 105 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 6: in pursuit of a quarterback. The answer seems to be no. 106 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 6: They are either going to stick at twenty one or 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 6: potentially move back. 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: One other quarterback option for these Steelers is Kirk Cousins, 109 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: but for now he remains a member of the Atlanta Falcons. 110 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: Showed up for work today the voluntary off season program 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: kicking off, and Cousins, who was benched last season in 112 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: favor of rookie Michael Pennix Junior, was in the building. Mike, 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 1: what do we make of Cousins' presence at a time 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: that it certainly seems if he's made abundantly clear to 115 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the Falcons he wants to be elsewhere. 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 7: Let's go through the timeline first, because this is an 117 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 7: interesting standoff. I want to say between Kirk Couins and 118 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 7: the Falcons. It's not necessarily an ugly one, and there's 119 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 7: been good communication. But this started with Cousins getting benched 120 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 7: and the Falcons saying, well, no, we don't necessarily have 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 7: to cut him, we'll hold him into the off season. 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 7: They didn't cut him, they didn't trade him at that point. 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 7: Cousins made it clear during Super Bowl Week he's not happy. 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 7: The Falcons were like, we're content with him still being 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 7: our backup. Now we're at the point where I think 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 7: Cousins is kind of flipping. 127 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: It back on them, and it's kind of. 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Like, I'll do it. I'll stay here. I'll be your backup. 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 7: If you don't trade me during the draft and I 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 7: get into the off season programs, trust me, I'll stay 131 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 7: as your backup. Remember, he does have that no trade clause. 132 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 7: So I think this is what we're gonna watch as 133 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 7: we get into day two. We had said weeks ago, 134 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 7: months ago, really now to this point that Cousins would 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 7: not okay a trade until they got through the first 136 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 7: round of the draft with any team because he didn't 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 7: want what happened in Atlanta to happen to him once again. 138 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 7: So once we get into day two of the draft, 139 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 7: we'll see if something comes together with Cousins and the 140 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 7: Falcons and trading for him to another team. 141 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 8: If not, and this continues to go on, he may 142 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 8: wind up being. 143 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Their backup, and the Falcons will tell us we've been 144 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: telling you that all along. 145 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: We'll see Stay tuned. 146 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Dah Also showing up for work today brock Perdy, who 147 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: is in the midst of contract negotiations with the forty 148 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: nine ers on an extension that is expected once it's done, 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: to make you one of the higher paid quarterbacks in 150 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the NFL not showing up for work tight end George Kittle. 151 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Here's what GM John Lynch had to say on both players. 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: Rock is here in all the contract stuff that's still 153 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: on going. 154 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 9: Just that's Brock. You know, he's a pro, and he's 155 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 9: you know, he's gonna he's Brock's gotta He's a very 156 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 9: clear minded and I'm not going to let other people 157 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 9: influence so like what he should be doing. And it's 158 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 9: one thing everybody I think respects about Brock. It's done 159 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 9: a lot for this organization and and you know, we're 160 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 9: grateful for him and and uh, you know, looking forward 161 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 9: to having him as our quarterback. 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: For a long time. Things are headed into a good 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: direction with George. And do you expect him to be here. 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: For the eleven on eleven ot a portion of the office. 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 9: We'll see on that. You know, these things are voluntary 166 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 9: right now. But you know, again with that, we've had 167 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 9: good communication, good talks, and we'll see where that goes. 168 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in our Steve Whitz to the conversation. If if 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: you're a poker player, you might be wondering why John 170 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Lynch was really touching a lot of parts of his 171 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: face there while talking about George Seinfeld episode what don't 172 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: We make about exactly where things stand with the forty 173 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: nine or some. 174 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: Of their star players. 175 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: We'll start with the brock Party situation. Him showing up 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 5: today was a positive development for the forty nine is 177 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily mean that negotiations are close, doesn't mean 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: that a deal is imminent, but it does mean to 179 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: my understanding that at least the conversations are going well 180 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: enough that brock Purty felt compelled to show up. 181 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: And you're right, you mentioned it. 182 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: Coming into this thing, he's going to be one of 183 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: the higher paid quarterbacks, no doubt going to be a 184 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 5: fifty million dollar per year quarterback. It's just where does 185 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: he slide in in that fifty million dollars. There's a 186 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 5: big range between let's say fifty and Josh Allen and 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: Jordan Love and so many others who are at the 188 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: fifty five mark, let alone Dak Prescott, which is sixty. 189 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: But the fact that brock Purty can sort of avoid 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: the distraction of it show up, that is a very 191 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: good sign. The George Kittles situation is a little more 192 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 5: challenging to me, looking for third contract still one of 193 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: the best tight ends in the NFL. The fact that 194 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: Trey McBride just begin the highest paid tight end in 195 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: the NFL makes me wonder if George Kittle, and certainly 196 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 5: his play has warranted it. George Kittle wants to surpass 197 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: that and do the forty nine ers do that on 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: a third contract. They have had not a ton of 199 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: progress yet he is not there and definitely one of 200 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 5: the bigger questions. 201 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 10: For the forty nine Ers this offseason. 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 8: Steve Well, let's talk about the Domino effective, and they've 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 8: got to get party done before they kind of know 204 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 8: how to manage their cap space and their cash to 205 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 8: kind of get to George Kittle. But let's go back 206 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 8: to Rock Party. You remember, this part of OTA's is mainly 207 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 8: just conditioning and weightlifting. It'll be interesting if a deal 208 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 8: is not done by the time they get on the field, 209 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 8: this Rock Party still participate and risk potential injury before a. 210 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: Deal is done. 211 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 8: That's what we'll kind of know where things stand. But 212 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 8: clearly this is a positive sign after George Kittle. Right 213 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 8: now does not seem like things are really negative anyway, 214 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 8: Like the Niners aren't taking it for granted. But it's 215 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 8: like he's a veteran player. We'll get him in here. 216 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 8: We get him in here with the Niners. Need to 217 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 8: worry about is what they do Thursday through Saturday. 218 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: That's drafting well. 219 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 8: Because they've got several key players Trent Williams, George Kittle 220 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 8: and others who are in their thirties who they've got 221 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 8: to replace. They've already seen some talent let leave the 222 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 8: building this offseason. They've got to strike it rich in 223 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 8: the draft at certain key positions to replenish this roster 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 8: with some of the players we're talking about eventually kind 225 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 8: of mosy on to their next careers. 226 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Steve stick around a lot more from you. Throughout the 227 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: course of this show, brock Perty also showed up for 228 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: work with our guy Daniel Jeremiah. Take a sneak peek 229 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: at the latest episode in our new content series where 230 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Brock Party and Daniel Jeremiah break down the game film 231 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: and talk about this year's NFL draft prospects, all with 232 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: the help of Toyota. Be sure to check out going 233 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: Places presented by Toyota on DJ's social account at Move 234 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the Sticks. 235 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 11: Obviously, the expectations that he's had, you know, throughout his 236 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 11: college career and then taking Colorado to new heights like that. 237 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: You know that's not easy. 238 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 11: The knock is a little bit of the arm strength, 239 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 11: and then you know, holding the ball took a lot 240 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 11: of sacks with my experience of playing, like if I 241 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 11: can show my guys you know that I can get 242 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 11: hit and then keep going, that just shows a lot 243 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 11: about you know, your leadership and just being able to 244 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 11: learn to get the ball out, play within the timing 245 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 11: of the offense and concepts. So I think those are 246 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 11: things that he has and will continue to learn. 247 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: And development, no doubt. 248 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: Forty nine ers only number eleven overall. Pick the Cowboys 249 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: sitting right behind him at number twelve, What direction could 250 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: they go? Maybe adding another weapon for Dak Prescott. Nobody 251 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: better than our Jane Slater to break down things at 252 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: the Stars. She'll join us in just a little bit, 253 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: But first, cam Ward made his way from a mid 254 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: round pick to the presumptive number one overall selection through 255 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: one magical year at Miami. Mario Christobaul was there for 256 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: that progress, and he joins us next to tell us 257 00:11:51,640 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: what makes cam tick? That's ahead on the insiders. The 258 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Titans technically aren't supposed to reveal who they're drafted number one. 259 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: We're totally not supposed to reveal who they're drafted number one. 260 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: So just taking these mock drafts where across the board 261 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: everyone is projecting cam Woard to go number one overall 262 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans. For more on cam Word, let's 263 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: bring a guy who knows him very well, Mario Christobal, 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: head coach of Miami Football, with me Tom Pilaicero as 265 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: well as Ian Rappaport. Mario, just tell us about cam Ward. 266 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: What makes this dude so special? 267 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 12: Dam Ward one of one, tough, smart, instinctive, relentless. The 268 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 12: guy just wants to win. He wants to his teammates 269 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 12: do well. He's a program changer. I don't know where 270 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 12: to start and I don't know where to stop. But 271 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 12: he embodies everything you want and a team leader in 272 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 12: your quarterback. 273 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: You know, if you look back, I guess maybe a 274 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 5: year ago, right around this time, cam Ward was coming 275 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: out of Washington State. If he had declared for the draft, 276 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 5: probably would have been I would imagine some sort of 277 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 5: a mid round pick. What happened in the last year 278 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 5: to turn cam Ward from pretty good quarterback on maybe 279 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: a future in the NFL to the likely number one 280 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: overall selection. 281 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 12: Well, I think a lot of things wanting to play 282 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 12: number one is him, is God given ability, is upbringing, 283 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 12: his mentality. But you know, at Washington State we felt 284 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 12: that man he had all the tools, but he was 285 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 12: running for his life half the time, right and he 286 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 12: was always playing from behind. So all that improvisation, the scrambling, 287 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 12: the having to just make things happen all the time. 288 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 12: We want to place him around a really strong supporting cast, 289 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 12: starting with the offensive line. And here he had protection, 290 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 12: and he had some really good receivers, and he had 291 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 12: a system that a lot in the play fasts and 292 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 12: play free and no one sees the feel like he does. 293 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 12: I mean he sees it like you like these kids 294 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 12: the way they played John Madden football on TV, on 295 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 12: those play systems. He just has a knack for understanding coverages, 296 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 12: to get guys to lean one way or the other 297 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 12: and create space. With the way that he just approaches 298 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 12: the game with the use of his eyes is overall 299 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 12: knowledge of the game. He just he gets it. And 300 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 12: certainly putting all those things together led to a great season. 301 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: There have been a lot of comparisons to Patrick Mahomes 302 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams in terms of the play style and 303 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: changing our angles. I are another interesting one, which was 304 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: one coach said to me, there's almost a little bit 305 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: of Ben Roethlisberger in him in terms of what he 306 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: has guys bearing down on him in the pocket. It 307 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: seems like, even though he's a much smaller dude, he's 308 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: got this innate ability to shake people off and extend 309 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: plays that way. How does he play bigger than the 310 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: size that he is at times? 311 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 12: Well, he's a lot bigger than people think. I mean, 312 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 12: he's got some meat on his bones. Now, He's not 313 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 12: one of these little skinny mini guys, and he just 314 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 12: feels it. 315 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: He's got a sixth sense, he really does. 316 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 12: And look, our offensive lineman love him because he's going 317 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 12: to find a way if there is pressure, I get 318 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 12: away from it. And even though sometimes those plays might 319 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 12: last seven, eight, nine, ten seconds, he finds a way 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 12: to create some magic, you know, along the way. So 321 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 12: he is just he's very knowledgeable of protections and I 322 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 12: don't think he gets enough credit for that. He spends 323 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 12: an extraordinary amount of time with our offensive line coach 324 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 12: understanding the ins and outs of five six seven man 325 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 12: protection some of o are you know, sprint protection, move 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 12: the pocket stuff. And so when you do that, when 327 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 12: you know where the freeman's at and what you have 328 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 12: to do with the football and where your guys are 329 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 12: going to be, it leads to some unbelievable opportunities. 330 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: And I mean you see it all over the table. 331 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: You know, a long time ago, a couple jobs ago, 332 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 5: you recruited a receiver named Calvin Ridley to Alabama. Now, 333 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: if if this happens, if kim Ward does go number 334 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 5: one to the Titans, like we all think that's going 335 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 5: to be one of his top targets. 336 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: First of all, what. 337 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: Kind of pairing do you think that will be? And 338 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: then what situation in your mind does kim Ward walk 339 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: into in Tennessee. 340 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, Calvin Ridley was was the best skilled player I've 341 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 12: had a chance to recruit. It really was the most 342 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 12: explosive to the most dynamic artists working. First guy out 343 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 12: to the field, last guy out to leave. Man, you're 344 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 12: talking about this, maybe he's to think I should write 345 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 12: a couple of waivers and get them back to college 346 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 12: for a year and then pass them out of the NFL. 347 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 12: I mean that that combination right there is that's hard 348 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 12: to match, you know, And you know, Calvin's a guy 349 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 12: that I don't know what the miles per hour the 350 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 12: GPS have said, you know, at the NFL level, but 351 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 12: man and over at the University of Alabama, he was 352 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 12: the fast and most explosive guy. And Cam Cam the 353 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 12: way he creates stuff, the strength of his arm, his 354 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 12: arm angles. Like you mentioned, there are so many plays 355 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 12: where it should be a batter ball, it should be 356 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 12: just get rid of it, throw out of bounce where 357 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 12: he just he's deadly accurate, and he finds ways around 358 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 12: people and around people trying to match the hand he 359 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 12: gets it to him. 360 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: So those guys will be awesome together. 361 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: You had a quarterback at Oregon, of course, named Justin Herbert, 362 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: who's gone on play some really good football in the NFL. 363 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: You also had a backup quarterback at the same time 364 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: named Tyler Shuck, who eventually became your starter in twenty twenty. 365 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: He was still playing college football last fall. He's in 366 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: this draft. What do you remember about Tyler Shuck then, 367 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: and what if anything do you see for him as 368 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: far as his future in the NFL. 369 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: Tyler Shucks a total stud. 370 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 12: He led us to a conference championship during the COVID season, 371 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 12: and we alwaysknew he had a right future, you know, 372 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 12: and he moved on and went on and did great things. 373 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 12: And I think he's going to be an outstanding NFL quarterback. 374 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 12: Great human being, great leader, tough, physical, can run, accurate. 375 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 12: That guy's got all the things you also want in 376 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 12: a great quarterback. So you know, certainly wishing him the best. 377 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: Mario. Thanks a ton. No, it's a really busy week 378 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: for you. We'll see up here in Green Bay in 379 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: a couple of days. Make sure you bring a couple 380 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: of layers. It's a little chillier here than it is 381 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: down there at Coral Gablest. 382 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: No layers down here, buddy, but I'll bring a couple 383 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: up there. 384 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: You go, exsce all lot Coach, We appreciate Mario Christibal 385 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: coach cam Or the presumptive number one overall pick in 386 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: this year's NFL draft, But what other quarterbacks could be taken? 387 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: As this draft rolls on, we'll have our guys Baldy 388 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: and Steve Whites to break down Jalen Milroe and many 389 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: more next on The Insiders with the twenty twenty five 390 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Rapidly approaching NFL prospects all over the country 391 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: are gearing up for the moment of a lifetime for 392 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Oregon quarterback Dylan Gabriel and Missouri wide receiver Luther Burden. 393 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: The third the final stretch brings reflection, resolve, and the 394 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: weight of what comes next. Join these exciting prospects behind 395 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: the scenes as they put the finishing touches on their 396 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: NFL draft journeys in the latest episode of Destination Green Bay, 397 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: presented by Toyota. 398 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 10: Yeah, we're like four weeks away from the draft. I 399 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 10: don't think you hit me yet. You know, Dom about 400 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 10: to get draft He d the. 401 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 7: Twenty first pick in an NFL draft day. 402 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 13: We finished our last part of the pro day, the 403 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 13: last event in the pre draft process. 404 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: Dylln, what's up my brother? How you doing? 405 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 10: It feels great to be back in Miszoo. You know, 406 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 10: see my old teammates. 407 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 13: Kind of a lot to take in on that this 408 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 13: is your last time throwing truly in the in the 409 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 13: Ducks uniform. 410 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 4: This is where the standards are set. 411 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 10: This is where we find out your next path in 412 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 10: our life. 413 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 13: All that work that you put in for this dream 414 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 13: that you want to accomplish and man, this is it 415 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 13: Johnny's comes to. 416 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 10: In the end, new ones began. 417 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Hey, look at Bucky Brooks top five quarterbacks. He has 418 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: been consistent throughout the process, with Schor Sanders ranked at 419 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: the top, ahead of the presumptive number one overall pick, 420 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: cam Ward and the rest time now for as the 421 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: aces presented by Ace Hardware are aces. Tonight, Brian Baldinger 422 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and Steve Whitez joining us from Los Angeles. I'm to 423 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: pill sero here in Green Bay. I've got a new 424 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: article up, my annual breakdown of the quarterback class through 425 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: the eyes of coaches, scouts and front office members. They've 426 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: got cam Ward as the clear number one schadeur as 427 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: the two you guys were adding Shador's pro day, Baldy, 428 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: give me the eyeball test looking at him? What up close? 429 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: What did you see? Well, it's interesting. 430 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 14: Steve and myself were both there standing behind him for 431 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 14: the sixty throws. Tom and I was with cam Ward 432 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 14: the week before and there was a clear difference between 433 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 14: how cam Ward throws the football and Shador does. 434 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 4: The thing that I saw with Shador, though, was. 435 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 14: The deeper the ball went, the better the ball the 436 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 14: tighter the spiral, the more accurate to throw. I thought 437 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 14: the intermediate throwers got away from him. See little lows 438 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 14: got away from him, sailed. 439 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 4: On him a couple of times. 440 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 14: But the deeper the ball, And that's what I saw 441 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 14: exactly over the last two years at Colorado. 442 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: Tom was the deep ball. 443 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 14: Accuracy was something that was special about him and I thought, 444 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 14: separating him from every other quarterback back in his class. 445 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 4: But then you know when you spend time. 446 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 14: Talking to Pat Shermer, his offensive coordinator, and how simple 447 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 14: the offense had to be to actually exit the strength 448 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 14: of the offense, which was the four receivers including Travis 449 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 14: Henry and Shador. It's basically all they had. It was 450 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 14: a pure West Coast type offense where you got your 451 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 14: inside receivers or outside receivers. Let's get the ball out 452 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 14: of your hands quickly with all of the you know, 453 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 14: all of this, the quick screens and the shuffle passes 454 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 14: and things like that. But then when he had to 455 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 14: make a play like he did it this pro date, 456 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 14: he could get the ball down the field to a 457 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 14: star and ball. 458 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 8: Let's make it clear, they didn't simplify the offense because 459 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 8: of Shador. 460 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: He can handle the offense. 461 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 8: He's had four plus offensive coordinators that has adapted very well. 462 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 8: They did this because the guys, the rest of the 463 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 8: guys on the roster, you know, some of the things 464 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 8: in talking to Dion and other people at Colorado close 465 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 8: to Shador, you know, we talked about he's gonna go 466 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 8: to three of the Giants, whatever their whole focus is. 467 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 8: Put him in a situation where he can excel. Yes, 468 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 8: could that be the Saint to nine, could be the 469 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 8: Steelers are twenty one? Couldn't that be wherever they want 470 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 8: him in a healthy environment. And Tom that may go 471 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 8: to some of the things you've heard about him being 472 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 8: away from Deon Tanners for the first time. I don't 473 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 8: think that really factors into that thinking what the folks 474 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 8: closest should do, or I think they want him in 475 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 8: a situation where you've got a healthy offensive line, a 476 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 8: good coaching staff, and some stability in the buildings to 477 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: where he's not in a situation like Caleb Williams where 478 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 8: they're changing head coaches after the first year and things 479 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 8: like that. 480 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: I talked to one GM this week who said he 481 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: would guess based on his conversations doing the evaluation that 482 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: probably half the league has shud Or Sanders's QB two, 483 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: half as Jackson dart as QB two. There's certainly a 484 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: lot of that that I heard between coaches and scouts. 485 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: The other interesting name, Steve, that's really come up in 486 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: this process is Jalen Milroe. I had several coaches and 487 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: front office evaluators tell me this is the best running 488 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: quarterback they've ever scouted on tape. Now Lamar Jackson, not 489 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, Jalen Milroe, which is high pri And we 490 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: can break down the stats and all that, but it's 491 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: clear there's some skill set here. What have you heard 492 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: about the potential fits for Milrae. 493 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting time because. 494 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 8: Bald and I were just talking and kind of the 495 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 8: comp is Jalen Hurts in terms of the size, the 496 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 8: arm strength, and the running ability. Now he's faster than 497 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts, but he's strong. He's physically a strong player, 498 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 8: and the fact that he can make the throws that 499 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 8: he needs to make and he's not necessarily the on 500 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 8: schedule guy or things like that. Those inconsistencies are probably 501 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 8: why he doesn't make it into the first round. But 502 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 8: the overall talent the upside. That's what you keep hearing, upside, upside, upside. 503 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 8: We hear that about developmental quarterbacks, not about guys you 504 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 8: can go to a team and start right away, regardless 505 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 8: of their roster. 506 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 4: On the NFL level. 507 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: One thing, too, Baldy, I want to make abundantly clear 508 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 8: is we know he's been invited to Green Bay to 509 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 8: be with Tom Andy and those guys for the draft. 510 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 8: Right A lot of guys are often invited who are 511 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 8: not going to be in the green room on day one. 512 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 8: They could be there in the green room day two. 513 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 8: That could be the case for Jalen Milroe. We don't 514 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 8: know that right now, but that could be the case. 515 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 8: Just because he's been invited doesn't mean he's expected to 516 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 8: go in the first round. 517 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 14: Well, I mean, Jalen Hurts was the fifty third pick 518 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 14: in his draft, and I really applauded the Eagles for 519 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 14: taking them as a developmental quarterback like Jlen Milroe should 520 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 14: go as a developmental quarterback. And it was very quick 521 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 14: in Philadelphia that he was a threat to Carson Wentz 522 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 14: and eventually took over for Carson and then became the 523 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 14: Super Bowl MVP. But the Eagles were very patient with them. 524 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 14: They did change head coaches, but they never stopped building 525 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 14: around them. To your point, Steve, some of these quarterbacks, 526 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 14: if they can go to the right situation where you 527 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 14: could sit and become the scout team quarterback the first year, 528 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 14: where you could have an offseason and maybe two off seasons, 529 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 14: a preseason, and you could work on the fundamentals of 530 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 14: passing to improve your accuracy, whether it's your footwork, whether. 531 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 4: It's your release. 532 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 14: Because the god given ability to run right through Ellishu's 533 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 14: defense or George's defense, those sec defenses where he ran 534 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 14: for thirty two touchdowns last two years. If it was 535 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 14: flag football top they weren't written the flag off. 536 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: Jaylen Milroe in some of those games. 537 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 8: And Tom real quick, I want to say, what's interesting 538 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 8: about this Milroe conversation Now, Once we've heard people say, well, 539 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 8: maybe he's got to play wide receiver or a different position, 540 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 8: the thinking that has come now to the coaching and 541 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 8: evaluation to the NFL about the dual threat and the 542 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 8: mobile quarterback is so different than just five years ago. 543 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 8: It's really pleasant to hear that. So I'm like Jalen 544 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 8: Milroe has created all this buzz because of his dual 545 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 8: threat ability. 546 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 14: Real quick, Seve, just because the NFL can only take 547 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 14: what the college game is giving you, and they're giving 548 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 14: you Jalen Milroe, So figure out a way to implement them, 549 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 14: coach them up, build around them. 550 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: That running abillity and also the arm strength. Has learned 551 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: to put some touch on it at times. From the 552 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: coaches I've talked to, it's a lot of fastballs, but 553 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: you can't teach that skill set, which is why if 554 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I had to guess, I'd say Jalen Milroe comes off 555 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: the board a little bit sooner than everybody's expecting. Steve 556 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: and Baldi, thank you very much much. As always, so 557 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: much more to come here. Just two days out from 558 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. When could quinn Sewn Judkins hear his 559 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: name called? He will tell Mike and Judy when Quinjehn 560 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: joins the show next. It's the insiders. 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 7: All lot of that for quin Sewn Jackins and Travion Henderson. 562 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 7: As you look at Bucky Brooks's top five running back prospects, 563 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 7: yeah there is some talent there in the top five, 564 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 7: and some various running styles and some various ways of producing, 565 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 7: but a lot of ways of producing we're gonna bring 566 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 7: in one of those. 567 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: Two buck guys. 568 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 7: Right now is Quinn John Judkins joining Judy Batista and 569 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 7: myself Mike garra Falo here on the Insiders. I'm gonna 570 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 7: get right into it because I'm just fascinated when we 571 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 7: have guys on. I love to talk to them about 572 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 7: what other people are writing with the scouts are writing up, 573 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 7: because if someone wrote up something about us, I'd want 574 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 7: to read it, like, hey, really good at interviewing sometimes 575 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 7: though has no idea what the hell he's talking about. 576 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 7: You get that with these scouting reports based on what 577 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 7: you guys do. This is Daniel Jeremiah saying he runs 578 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 7: over to the ground and hunts the unblocked defender with 579 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 7: a thirst for violence. Seeing a lot of that in 580 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 7: the scouting reports, you'd like to get that contact. 581 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: Where does that thirst for violence come from? 582 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 4: Quinnchjow. I think it's necessarily just a thirst for it. 583 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 15: I think it's just one of those things that I have, 584 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 15: is my ability something that I can do as a player, 585 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 15: My versatility to be able to be elusive, have that 586 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 15: patience and vision and also be able to stiff onm 587 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 15: and you know you use those things when needed, but 588 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 15: just being an all around players who've always. 589 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 6: Been Take us a little bit behind the scenes. What 590 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 6: this process has been like for you. What kind of 591 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 6: feedback have you been getting from teams? What have they 592 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 6: been telling you about what they expect from you when 593 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 6: you get to the league. 594 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: I think a lot of team will visits. 595 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 15: They know what type of player I am, the impact 596 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 15: that I've had in the CEC and also transferring to 597 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 15: the Big Ten and also have success there too. But 598 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 15: you know, having really sat back and really just you know, 599 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 15: looked and talk with teams about, you know, what type 600 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 15: of things I could do. Obviously just coming in and 601 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 15: being an impact player, but aside from that, just taking 602 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 15: it all in and just going on different business again 603 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 15: to see different organizations and you know, seeing their culture 604 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 15: there and just enjoying the experience. 605 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 7: Look, the running back is back, right, and say Kwon 606 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 7: Barkley helped that this past year with what he was 607 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 7: able to do to lift the Eagles to a Super Bowl. 608 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 7: You look at this class, you look at those five names, 609 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 7: including your teammate Treveon Henderson. What is this running back 610 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 7: class saying right now about. 611 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: What you guys can do? 612 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 7: What you can do in particular to help a team 613 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 7: win in the modern NFL. 614 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a lot of teams are starting to 615 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: realize that. 616 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 15: You know, running back is a very pitiful, pivotal position 617 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 15: for your team to have success, and you need a 618 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 15: run game to be able to get the ball to 619 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 15: the receivers, and that is very important in today's game. 620 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 4: I think teams are starting to realize that. 621 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 15: And it's a lot of great backs in his draft class, 622 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 15: and I think, you know, coming up, there'll be a 623 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 15: lot of guys on the board. 624 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 6: What has it been like going through this process with 625 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 6: a teammate at the same position, sort of ranked, you know, 626 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 6: right around the same area. Have you guys been comparing 627 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 6: notes when you talk to teams? 628 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: What's it been like? 629 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 7: Oh? 630 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 15: No, just really a support of each other, talking, you know, 631 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 15: every few days, making sure he's good, he's making sure 632 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 15: I'm good, and he just talking about each other experience 633 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 15: when we go to these different places. And I think 634 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 15: it's the same thing since we've played always one and 635 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 15: what's best for each other, having that friendly competition that 636 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 15: we've always had, but like I said, just truly having 637 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 15: that true competitiveness, but at the same time, being there 638 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 15: to support each other. 639 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 7: You know, you get to the NFL and it's like 640 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 7: a lot of guys have, you know, the home run 641 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 7: ability and the ability to get those hidden yards and 642 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 7: do all these things. But I know these NFL coaches 643 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: and it's all about pass protection. Can he pass protect 644 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 7: too because we need him to do that, and can 645 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 7: he take care of the football. And I saw this 646 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: the other day. You fumbled just one time, one time 647 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 7: over your last five hundred touches. I don't know if 648 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 7: it's like a no hitter where I'm not supposed to 649 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: bring it up to the picture, but I want to 650 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: give you the chance to talk about why you're so 651 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 7: good with ball security, man. 652 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: Ball security, ob security. 653 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 15: You know, I feel like it's always one of the 654 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 15: most best things you can do at my position is 655 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 15: protect the ball and done a pretty good job at it. 656 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 15: Never never been an issue for me, and just really 657 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 15: going out there and executing this one of those things 658 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 15: that I look forward to and you know, going to 659 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 15: play football again. 660 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 4: Trust me. 661 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 7: Thirty two head coaches and offensive coordinators just now were like, yes, 662 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 7: that's exactly what we're talking about. So there's a great 663 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 7: answer there. Quinn shot Tell us, by the way, give 664 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 7: us another answer. Tell us what you're doing today with 665 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 7: Old Swice, Old Spice, Swagger, deodorant and body wash. 666 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: Yes, so I've partnered with Old Spice. 667 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 15: They always keep me fresh to this draft process with 668 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 15: their Old Spice products. I love their deodor and also 669 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 15: their body wash, and they keep me, you know, at 670 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 15: my best, so I really appreciate them. 671 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: There it is. 672 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 7: He plays clean on the field, he stays clean off 673 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 7: the field. Quinn Sehn Judkins joining us here on the Insiders. 674 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 7: Wishing you all the best, and I can't wait to 675 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 7: see what this rookie running back class, including yourself, can do. 676 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 7: Good luck, bow, Thank you all right, Quinn John Judkins. 677 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 7: Could he be a cowboy? Could he be getting a 678 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 7: call from Jerry Jones? 679 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: Just like that? 680 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: We think one running back eventually will early in this 681 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 7: draft and they'll be happy about it. 682 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: We're talking cowboys. We're talking draft. 683 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: We're talking cowboys. 684 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking cowboys here on the Insiders. 685 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Neck all right. 686 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 6: The Dallas Cowboys have the number twelve pick. You can 687 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 6: see what the mat drafts. Ooh, lots of Matthew Gold 688 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 6: in there. Three out of the four to o Mari 689 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: and Hampton also gets a mention it is time for 690 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 6: count on it presented by Toro. We can always count 691 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 6: on our Jane Slater and Brian Baldinger to bring us 692 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 6: the goods on the Dallas Cowboys. Jane, you were out 693 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 6: at the start today they did their pre draft press conference. 694 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 6: They actually said they don't have their board entirely set yet. 695 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: What'd you glean? 696 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 6: Where do you think they're going with number twelve? 697 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: I think what that says is what I did pick 698 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: up on was this was a very collaborative process between 699 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: the Cowboys and this new coaching staff with Brian Schottenheimer. 700 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, over the year's Judy, Brian Schottenheimer has 701 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: sat in those rooms and I think he appreciates the 702 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: value of everyone's input. And you know, look, Jerry recognizes 703 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: they did not get where they wanted to go last year, 704 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: but he does say that they are really good at 705 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: this draft thing. And if you look at all of 706 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowls and some of the individual accolades of 707 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: some of the guys they've drafted in recent years, it 708 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: would suggest that they would now they haven't always had 709 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: on all of them. I mean, names like Tristan Hill 710 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: have come up, Taco, Charlton, go down the list. But 711 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: when we look at pick twelve, I'm not entirely convinced 712 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: that they're going to stay there at pick twelve. I mean, 713 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: Jerry talked today about working on some potentially substantive trades. 714 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: In other words, they talked about the need to pick 715 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: up the phone. They're not calling, They're waiting for people 716 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: to call them, So I see that being a possibility. 717 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: I also threw out three names on Twitter, and Cowboys 718 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: are big bad. 719 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: But Judy, let. 720 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: Me preface this by saying, these are just three names 721 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: I've been told to keep an eye on. I am 722 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: not telling you that they are picking these guys at twelve. 723 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: But Walter Nolan defensive tackle, James Pearce, he's an edge. 724 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: Matthew Golden at wide receiver. Cowboy fans would love it 725 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: if they went and got Matthew Golden with his speed 726 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: to compliment Ceedee Lamb. We've got Texas sou on the 727 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 3: roster if that happens. But if he's not there, I 728 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: get this, since the Cowboys are comfortable trading down, and 729 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: I've been told repeatedly leaning up to this draft that 730 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys are really hyper focused on building up those trenches. Now, 731 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: I know that they've been able to address some of 732 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: this in the free agent market this offseason, both on 733 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: the offensive line and the defensive line, so it gives 734 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: them a little flexibility. But I will say in years past, 735 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: I've had a pretty clear vision of where they're going 736 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: with their pick. I haven't really had too many names 737 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: that have been drilled in whispered. I'm just I'm getting 738 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: the sense that they are sort of waiting to see 739 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: how this board plays out. But they do have their 740 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: eye on a couple of guys, and as in years past, 741 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: they think they've got about fifteen to eighteen guys with 742 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: first round grades. 743 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 14: Jane, those names you threw out there are good players 744 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 14: and they would help this Cowboys team. But I want 745 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 14: to go back to something you said about Jerry maybe 746 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 14: in trade mode, because I'm an advocate of Jerry trading. 747 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: In this draft. 748 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 14: They've got ten picks, trading from twelve into the top five. 749 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 14: You can pick forty four, pick one point fifty nine. 750 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 14: You could get to the top five to get Ashton 751 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 14: genty Cee. Jane, the Cowboys are at their best when 752 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 14: they have a star running back going back to door 753 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 14: set in seventy seven, second pick in the draft. 754 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: What they do? 755 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 14: They won the Super Bowl that year. How about in 756 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 14: Emmin when they picked them in nineteen ninety two years 757 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 14: later they started a mini dynasty, winning three Super Bowls 758 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 14: in four years. Zeke in twenty sixteen came in led 759 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 14: the league in rushing, was a star right away. They 760 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 14: won thirteen games. They didn't finish it, but if they 761 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 14: were on top of the heap when they did it. 762 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 14: They need to start running back. They need a guy 763 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 14: that Dak can turn around and hand the ball off 764 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 14: to three hundred to three hundred and fifty times and 765 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 14: maybe magic can start to happen and maybe this franchise 766 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 14: can turn things around from the disappointing season that they 767 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 14: had a year ago. 768 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Baldy, I as someone who grew up here, 769 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: hear it from a lot of people. I mean that 770 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 3: running back my committee certainly didn't work. I was grabbed 771 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: at the East West game by Ashton Genty's people. Keep 772 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: in mind he grew up in the Lone Oak area. 773 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: It would be a hometown feel for him. He wants 774 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: to come to Dallas the old and I would love 775 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: to see it if they're doing a smoke screen here. 776 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,760 Speaker 3: I think the one knocks I've had on the Cowboys 777 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: is they've almost told you what they're going to do 778 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: before they do it, and that's taken away some of 779 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: their negotiating power. They're being really quiet, so maybe they 780 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: are throwing out some of these smoke screens, but I 781 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 3: would temper that by saying when I brought up the 782 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 3: idea of a running back with that first round pick, 783 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: also bringing up the success of Aekil Elliott, I had 784 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 3: one person telling me even if they'd gotten Henry last year, 785 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: they don't think he would have had the ear he 786 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 3: had behind that offensive line. In other words, they think 787 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: that they need to bolster that offensive line, and they 788 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: do feel like they've got some depth at the running 789 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: back position. So I'm with you, Ashton Genty, and they 790 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: love those Boise State players. I just don't know if 791 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: they're going to have the appetite to go all in 792 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: on that without feeling wholly comfortable about maybe that offensive 793 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: line just yet. 794 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 4: But we'll see. 795 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 6: I feel like we have been talking about the Dallas 796 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 6: Cowboys and running backs for two years now, so let's 797 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 6: see how it goes. We've only got another two days 798 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 6: until we get the answer. Jane and Baldy, thank you. 799 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 6: When we return, we're actually going to talk about a 800 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 6: former number one overall pick, Jamis Winston, Award winning Jamis Winston. 801 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: When we return, Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston getting it 802 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: in in the weight room. They're both members of the 803 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: New York Giants, along with their teammates, getting a jumpstart 804 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: on the voluntary off season program. This way, that's right. 805 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston has another new team, and I'm sure we'll 806 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: be hearing from him in one way or another. Probably 807 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: Tobily No, I have nothing here. 808 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 14: Have not her put the log up in the play 809 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 14: wire from O WA gonta. 810 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: Believe this is it for the win. 811 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 14: James coby Te pets Tillman fits. 812 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 4: What a throw by Jameis Winston. 813 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: The prog whin there's a white boy from Detroit. 814 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 10: That our rule, Mr n em and new He said, 815 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 10: you only get one side, do not miss a chance 816 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 10: to blow. 817 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 4: If the sky's the limit. 818 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 11: You can't say the sky's the limit when people have 819 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 11: been on the moon. 820 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: Ten years ago. This week, Jameis Winston was the number 821 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: one overall pick that pails. A comparison to this honor, 822 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 1: Fox Sports digital correspondent Jameis Winston has won the twenty 823 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty five Best Sports Individual Creator Webby Award for his 824 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: coverage of Super Bowl fifty nine. That is a w 825 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: judy that he definitely can eat. And all I keep 826 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: thinking every time that we see what Jamis is up 827 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: to is this is a very real situation where if 828 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: the Giants, let's say, draft a certain quarterback from Colorado, 829 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, could be the least interesting quarterback in that room. 830 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 6: Can we please get hard knocks back to the Giants. 831 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 6: I know John Maher would throw his body in front 832 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 6: of that, but that would be the greatest hard notch 833 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 6: just on the quarterback room. They don't even have to 834 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 6: do the rest of the team. 835 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 7: I just stream Jamis on draft night. Get his reaction. 836 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 7: Take a quarterback, don't take a quarterback? 837 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he. 838 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 7: Seems to be You gotta go somewhere, Ian, you have 839 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 7: somewhere to be. 840 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 4: Go ahead, You're up. 841 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: No, when you get an alert on your phone, you 842 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 5: got to check to make sure it's not breaking breaking news. 843 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 5: This time is just a random tweet. But it's fine. 844 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 5: Here's really what we need. I need jamis to be 845 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 5: on the sideline. We need to stream that. Get a 846 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 5: microphone him. Just that's the commentary we would watch. I 847 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 5: would watch that during a game. 848 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he'll show up right here in Green Bay. 849 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: The draft is two days away. Insiders back tomorrow. Josh 850 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: Jacobs will be on the show. Will see that